1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Lie from vall Hartbeyern and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today that. 3 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: I believe in maximum transparency. I think every single House 4 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 2: Republican will say the same thing. In fact, they've told 5 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 2: me that publicly and privately. They talk about this. We 6 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: want maximum transparency. We also understand the other part of 7 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 2: that duty is that we have to protect innocent victims. Okay, 8 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: we have to do both things at the same time. 9 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 2: What do we mean by that. Look involved in the 10 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: Epstein evil Okay, which is what it was. Let's call 11 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 2: it what it was. There are innocent victims of those 12 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: unspeakable sex crimes. 13 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: Okay. 14 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 2: Some of them were miners, some of them were not. 15 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 2: When the Epstein records are turned over to the public, 16 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,319 Speaker 2: which we must do as quickly as possible, we have 17 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 2: to also be very judicious and careful. 18 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: About protecting the innocent. 19 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 2: I think everybody in the country should understand the necessity 20 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 2: of that. It is the standard used to be a litigator. 21 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: It's the standard in the court of law and the courts. 22 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 2: It's the standard in law enforcement. Anyone who served in 23 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 2: law enforcement understands the necessity of that. It is the 24 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: standard with government agencies. We protect the innocence, so we 25 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: cannot be careless in an open release like that, you 26 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 2: have to be very careful. The President himself has said 27 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: that he wants maxim maximum transparency and all credible evidence 28 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: to be turned over to the American public so that 29 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 2: everyone can make their own decisions. We're owed that. 30 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: I agree with this, So get it done, Tony Katz, 31 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today, good to be with you. I know, 32 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: still an Epstein conversation, but it's interesting. You see the 33 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: release of the MLK files, He's two hundred and twenty 34 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: thousand files. He saw the work from the ODNI, the 35 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: Director of National Intelligence regarding what actually took place in Russia, Russia, Russia, 36 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: and how the Presidential Daily Brief was utilized as a 37 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: political tool by the intelligence community leadership Komy, Clapper, Brennan, Obama, 38 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: et cetera to lie about President Trump and a connection 39 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: to Russia, the whole RuSHA Russia Russia story. And you're like, 40 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: these two things coming out MLK and this from the 41 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: d n I, this must be cover for the Epstein stuff. 42 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: See how transparent we are? We see how which was 43 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: all about the transparency to DA the one thing I 44 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: will state as clear as day is that anybody who 45 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: thought that there was an actual rift in quote unquote 46 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: Magaville I referred to as Magaville but in Maga never 47 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: understood what was happening. And people who were screaming and yelling, 48 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, you only care about this stuff because 49 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 1: you want to create content. You're not loyal Donald Trump. 50 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: These people were dopey. They were playing the part of 51 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: Bill Crystal, thinking that they could decide for Trump supporters 52 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: with the American people what was important. They really believed 53 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: in their own power. Gross and they shouldn't be forgiven 54 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: for it as far as I'm concerned. But this was small. 55 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: Well stop in a greater scheme. We want the transparency, 56 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: we want to know what was going on. But the 57 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: idea that this ever was somehow a schism in MAGA 58 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: is always just super weird. It was a leftist talking point, 59 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 1: not reality. School choice is getting a big, big boost. 60 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: I've got that story coming up. Keep it here. This 61 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: is Tony Katz today, So I guess you could call 62 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: it a private school quandary. It's really really interesting, and 63 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: I know that right now the Wall Street Journal is 64 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: not on everybody's favorite list. I get that. And for 65 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: the record, for clarity, I discussed this on Newsmax yesterday. 66 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: The Wall Street Journal screwed up massively with this letter 67 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: they claim is from President Trump, then Citizen Trump to 68 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. There's just no way. No one believes it, 69 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 1: no one buys it. Everybody thinks it's gratuitous. Everybody but 70 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: he's like, this doesn't pass the smell test. Because it doesn't. 71 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: No one's allowed to see the letter. What was the 72 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal thinking? Tony Katz Tony Katz today, good 73 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: to be with You find everything at Tony kats dot com. 74 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: And now Trump is has said you're out of the 75 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 1: press pool. And now there's a lawsuit for ten billion 76 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: dollars against the Wall Street Journal and the owner of 77 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal, Rubert Murdoch, the owner of Fox. 78 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 1: So I've always viewed Trump's contention with Fox to be like, 79 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: you know, anything else, If I don't get the response 80 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: that I want, I consider it bad. 81 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 3: Right. 82 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,119 Speaker 1: That's that's who Trump is, and it's never once moved 83 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: me or or bothered me. It's what he puts out there. 84 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: What's super weird is that people don't think Trump could 85 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: take a hit. I've always believed this. I've seen this, 86 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: I've heard him talk about it. I would say the 87 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: same thing to him. He doesn't mind tough. He wants fair. 88 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 1: Tough would be about, hey, you put over this policy 89 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: and here's what we see as a result. We don't 90 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: think this is good. Why not try this? That'd be tough. 91 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: It's certainly not fair to say. Here's a letter that 92 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: he wrote twenty three years ago to Jeffrey Epstein and 93 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: he was doodling naked women on it, and it just 94 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: proves how chummy he was with that pedophile. That's insane. 95 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: That's not journalism. That is everything. But that is nonsense. 96 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: And I don't know what the Wall Street journal was thinking. 97 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: Why they were thinking it. This ten billion dollar defamation suit. 98 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: Oh well, you figure out what should the number be. 99 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: Why can't the number be ten billion. Some people are like, oh, 100 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: that's ridiculous at number so high. I think it should 101 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 1: have been forty two billion. I don't think Trump's saman 102 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: high enough. You gotta make the madness stop. There are 103 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: so many ways to discuss actual issues without inventing total insanity. 104 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: No one believed the letter you have to work for 105 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: MSNBC to think that they're there's some letter written by 106 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: Trump that's typed, a typed letter to Jeffrey Epstein. You're 107 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: out of your mind if you think this stuff is 108 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: legit or real. But I utilize the Wall Street Journal 109 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: here for a story that is worthy of attention about 110 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: federal tax credits and what Blue states are going to do. 111 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: So when you take a look at the One Big 112 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: Beautiful Bill, one of the things that's in the One 113 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: Big Beautiful Bill is a tremendous boost to school choice, 114 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:51,239 Speaker 1: the school choice opportunities that are grown from this where 115 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: you have basically a subsidizing, if you will, private school tuition. 116 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: And this comes from they've got a story going back 117 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: to June of twenty twenty five. This is what allow 118 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: them to direct tax dollars to private school scholarships instead 119 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: of the treasury. So this for school choice advocates has 120 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: been a joy. And if you're somebody who believes in 121 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: public schools over everything else in the indoctrination of children, 122 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: you're infuriated because this gives parents even more choice and 123 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: levels of more affordability. Right, these very very nice tax 124 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: credits for donations, But in order do you get access 125 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: to the program, a governor has to opt in, And 126 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: all of a sudden you say to yourself, well, why 127 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: wouldn't they opt in? Oh wait a minute, Yeah, if 128 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: you are a blue state governor, if you're a Tim 129 00:07:55,160 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: Walls in Minnesota, if you're a Luson and in New Mexico, 130 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: Michelle Lujan Grisham is the full name. If you're Newsome 131 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: in California, what's your what's your plan? If you're Heally 132 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: in Massachusetts, wes Moore in Maryland, what are you going 133 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: to do? How? And by the way, keep an eye 134 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: on what wes Moore in Maryland does, because that guy 135 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: is a presidential front runner for the Democrats. If the 136 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: Democrats have any brain left in their very vapid skulls, 137 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: it's wes Moore. And whoever has to run against wes 138 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: Moore is going to have a real fight on their hands. 139 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: Wes Moore is formidable and based on all accounts at 140 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 1: least as of right now, doesn't come across crazy, comes 141 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: across as a Democrat. And that is a problem. Keep 142 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: an eye out for it. What will these progressive governors do? 143 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: They are full believers only in public schooling they want 144 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: to do away with any levels of private schooling, they 145 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: want to do away with not having to fund any 146 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: level of religious schooling. They oppose school choice on every level, 147 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: when school choice is so good for poorer families, And 148 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: of course, school choice is not about the kid. It 149 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 1: has never been about the kid. School choice is about 150 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: the parent doing what is best for their kid. And 151 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: what school choice does to facto is it states that 152 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: the parent is in charge. The parent matters, not the school. 153 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: The kid doesn't make the call, The parent makes the call. 154 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: And when the parent makes the call, we are saying 155 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: clearly that the parent is in charge. And what have 156 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: the schools been doing The public school's been doing and 157 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: working on so desperately to ensure the parent has no say, 158 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: and when the parent tries to have a say, they 159 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: get labeled domestic terror rists. So school choice is a 160 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: way of reminding people, including the parent, that they make 161 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: the call, that they are the final authority. It's one 162 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: of the reasons that I so favor school choice is 163 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: that it matters. It's just with that statement, school choice 164 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: sets the groundwork for who is in charge and who matters, 165 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: and that matters incredibly. So now you take a look 166 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: and what these bluestate governors are going to do here 167 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: is this opportunity that goes completely against their ideology. But 168 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: it's funny, funny thing about ideology. Oh, they'll say whatever 169 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: they'll say, but they'll do whatever they do. You mean, 170 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: I can give the money here, I can get a 171 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: tax benefit for it, and my kid gets a better 172 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: education that's more aligned with my thoughts, wants and desires. Yes. Please, 173 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: It goes with that question, right, yes, please, immediate. Now, 174 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: some governor who's also getting donations from that person is 175 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: going to stand in the way. But you take a 176 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: look at the unions, whether it's the American Federation of 177 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: Teachers or the NEA or a host of others, and 178 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: they're all going to be putting pressure on blue states 179 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: not to opt in. 180 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 3: Right. 181 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:29,599 Speaker 1: Someone made the argument that this is like Medicaid expansion 182 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: under Obamacare, and a bunch of red states rejected that, 183 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: and that this is going to be the blue state equivalent. 184 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: I would only argue that while that's a not the 185 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: worst analogous relationship I've ever seen, it's not exact because 186 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:53,719 Speaker 1: Medicare Medicaid is kind of hard to pin down in 187 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: all the things that provides or doesn't provide, who gets what, plans, 188 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: et cetera. Education is educator, and it is much more base. 189 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: Education is much more touchstone. Everybody knows what they mean. 190 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: My kid's good at math, I want them going to 191 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 1: a school that's going to help them excel at math. 192 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: My kid is good at dancing. I want them to 193 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: go to a school that helps them excel at dancing. Well, 194 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: you might not agree with what the parent is doing 195 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 1: regarding what the kid excels in, but recognize that they 196 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 1: are schools for the arts and schools for the sciences, 197 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: and schools for this, and schools for that, And you 198 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: want your kid to be in a place where they 199 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: can excel it with this thing they have a proclivity 200 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: for and help them build that and grow that and 201 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: get their education in that regard. That's I mean, that 202 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: doesn't matter who you are, doesn't matter your socioeconomic status 203 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:47,839 Speaker 1: of that one like you get that as a fundamental 204 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: I explained it in less than thirty seconds with I 205 00:12:52,440 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: think three sentences. Three sentences, that's all it took. So 206 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: that's why I look at this and say that, Well, 207 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 1: while it's close, no, no, no, education is much easier to understand. 208 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: Robert Enlow joins me right now. He's the president and 209 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: CEO of ed Choice EdChoice dot org, which is all 210 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 1: about a school choice and I shared with you this 211 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: story out of the Wall Street Journal and and how 212 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: these governors are going to play this with the one 213 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: big beautiful bill and the tax incentives that now exist 214 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: in giving these donations and going down this private school road. 215 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: You are, of course immersed in this world. What are 216 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: your thoughts on this legislation? 217 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 3: Well, you know, I said publicly that Congress took a 218 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 3: mighty swing at school choice and hit a single. So 219 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 3: it is a start. There's a lot of good things 220 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 3: about this bill, and there's a lot of things that 221 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 3: I think could be improved. The House version that originally 222 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 3: was introduced with significantly better than the end result. Here's 223 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 3: what we know. It is a permanent dollar for dollar 224 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 3: credit of seventeen hundred dollars for individuals who contribute to 225 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 3: scholarship granting organizations that are approved of by the IRS 226 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 3: and on a list put together by governors. That's a 227 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 3: good thing. It's a dollar for dollars seventeen hundred credit. 228 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 3: It's a permanent credit, and that people who can get 229 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 3: the scholarships. Very income level generous. So I mean it 230 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 3: is three hundred percent of the median income of your county, 231 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 3: which is great. I mean in Indiana that's around about 232 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 3: two hundred thousand dollars for every county in the state. 233 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 3: So it's a generous income level for people who can 234 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 3: receive the scholarships. So that's a good start, right. It's 235 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 3: a seventeen hundred dollars credit. It's a permanent credit with 236 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 3: no sunset, and the income level for the recipients is 237 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 3: fairly generous. Here's the challenging part. It's an opt in program, 238 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 3: which means that governors and states have to opt into 239 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 3: the program. That means that it's going to be a 240 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 3: challenge in blue state. Part of the BILS pitch for 241 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 3: the federal tax credit program with it'll be a national 242 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 3: program that's well a national effort and tax credit. It 243 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 3: will allow all states, particularly blue states, to participate. Now 244 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 3: that's going to be signify harder. You know what, what 245 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 3: is the incentive for blue states to participate? I think 246 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 3: there are some, but I think it's going to be harder. 247 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 3: Why would why would Gavin Newsom give into school choice 248 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 3: when he has to sort of play kate the unions. 249 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 3: Why would why would Governor hole Call in New York 250 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 3: do the same. 251 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: But isn't that making the argument, sir to interrupt talking 252 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: to Robert Enlow of Choice dot Org, that these governors 253 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: and that ideology is an impediment to better education. So 254 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: isn't this uh in a way outing that as as 255 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: an issue or are you saying I'd rather it was 256 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: just blanket so I didn't have to play the game 257 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: and parents could just have better options. 258 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, look, we would rather be to every single state. 259 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 3: It's going to put some pressure on these governors, There's 260 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 3: no doubt about it, right, and we hope it will. 261 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,239 Speaker 3: But here's also another reality of this bill. It's seventeen 262 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 3: hundred dollars. I've done the math for every million dollars, 263 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 3: it's going to require and eighty two donors to get 264 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 3: to a million dollars on contributions. For every ten million dollars, 265 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 3: that's fifty eight thousand, right for every you know, key, 266 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 3: just adding up the number of tax payers it's going 267 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 3: to take to get to a scholarship for a kid. 268 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 3: It's going to take a lot, a lot of effort, 269 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 3: particularly in states across the country because it's a it 270 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 3: is a fundraising task. Now, look, I think where the 271 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 3: benefits are for these Blue states is children and public 272 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 3: schools can receive these sounds for tutoring, for transportation. You know, 273 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 3: not every single public school district in the state of 274 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 3: the end complains about issues like transportation. They could try 275 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 3: to get money from donors to help ease that transportation 276 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 3: issue and for kids in public school So that's great. 277 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 3: There's a lot of opportunities I do. So there's going 278 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 3: to be a lot of challenges. You know. One of 279 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 3: the other things that is a challenge with this is 280 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 3: the eligible expenses are based on the Coverdale K twelve 281 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 3: Education Savings Account and that requiresians participants to be an 282 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,479 Speaker 3: eligible school as defined by the state. So that's great. 283 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 3: Governors will have an ability to create a list of 284 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 3: the scholarship granting organization, so I'll have some power over that, 285 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 3: and then the states will also have the power to 286 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 3: identify what is and is not a school. So there's 287 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 3: some potential here for some regulatory creep which we always 288 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 3: worry about as well. But key point here it is 289 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 3: going to put pressure on Democrat governors and blue states 290 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 3: to deny families more choices when they when it's obvious 291 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 3: that they can give it to them. 292 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: Talking to Robert Enlow, President and CEO of Edschoyce dot org, 293 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: we have heard a bunch from this year from Randy 294 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: Weingart and the American Federation of Teachers. We've heard from 295 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 1: Rebecca Pringle from the neat a lot of screaming, a 296 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:07,959 Speaker 1: lot of pushing for ideological things and not necessarily education things. 297 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: Where do you think the state of education is now 298 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: in regards to parents and eyes on the prize? 299 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 3: You know, here's the pauses that you know, I look 300 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 3: at things both ways. Poses. We have more choices than 301 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 3: ever before in America because of our work at EDD Choice. 302 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 3: There are now almost half of all American children can 303 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 3: receive a scholarship to go to private schools in this kindry. 304 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 3: That's almost half of every school, so that's a lot. 305 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 3: We've also seen about one point three million children currently 306 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 3: using these programs across the country and that number is skyrocketing. 307 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 3: We're also seeing it's universal choice and the money is 308 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 3: going to the family, So we're seeing a lot of positives, 309 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 3: more choices, more opportunities now that hasn't yet translated into 310 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 3: the kind of robust results that we'd like to see 311 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 3: in terms of public schools yet. But we're beginning to 312 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 3: see that because we know that in these small, tiny 313 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 3: programs where school choice exists, public schools get better, and 314 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 3: they get better faster. I can't wait to see what 315 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 3: happens when universal choice causes public schools to have to 316 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 3: get better even faster. We don't have enough good education 317 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 3: right now. You know, you and I both know that 318 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 3: forty percent of kids, and I think in fourth grade 319 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 3: can read on grade level, and only eighteen percent of 320 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 3: African American boys can read on great books. That's unacceptable 321 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 3: in America, and we've got to be something about it. Still, 322 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 3: but choice is definitely not getting in the way of that. 323 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 3: Stucchal going to helping you. 324 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: Robert Enlow, ed choice dot org, President, CEO of ed 325 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: choice dot org. Check it out for yourself, Robert, always 326 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: a pleasure. More coming up. I'm Tony Katz. This is 327 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. I mean, those two things cannot be 328 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: true at the same time. 329 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 4: Well, you ununderstand christinom is giving a pathway for the 330 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 4: legals to become citizens or saying here's one thousand dollars, 331 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 4: deport yourself, come back in the right way. But my 332 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 4: husband had to do it. My husband had to We 333 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 4: waited nine years for his green cards and he just 334 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 4: got naturalized last November. 335 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: Right, So why we have. 336 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 4: To wait in line? Why do these guys just bull 337 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 4: rush in and get all our benefits. 338 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: And take far our blue cities. 339 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 4: My big problem with Los Angeles is that you have 340 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 4: local mayors there giving the heads up to the community saying, hey, 341 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 4: there's an Ice Raad coming, you better leave and let's 342 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 4: get the writers and album. What an elected official she 343 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 4: do in not detaining or do abiding by the detail. 344 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: I don't know who Angie Wong is. All I know 345 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: is I want to be your friend, because that's the argument. 346 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: And here at CNN, well not me, I'm not at 347 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 1: CNN on the show with her On CNN, You've got 348 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: these white guys just lining up to be able to 349 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: tell her why she is wrong and why they understand 350 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: better what it is immigrants need. And then somebody whose 351 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: husband had to wait nine years to be a citizen. 352 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:01,719 Speaker 1: Remember the white liberal person and is the worst person. 353 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 1: Usually it's white liberal women, but white liberals are the worst. 354 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: These are the people most desperate to destroy Western civilization 355 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: and hate the country. They hate it, they hate it. 356 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: And here's somebody who is an immigrant. Here's somebody talking 357 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: about their husband who waited nine years to become a citizen. 358 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: She's also a Republican Executive committeeoman in Miami Dade County. 359 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: She's telling this story, and they're gonna tell her, well, 360 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: you don't understand, because liberals they always think they understand. 361 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: My god, why won't she just let these white liberals 362 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: save her? There's a first of all, Tony Katz, Tony 363 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: Katz today, good to be with you. There is a 364 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: comic in Los Angeles. I don't think she does stand 365 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: up anymore. Her name is Sonya Schmidt. And we did 366 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: tea party work back in the day, and a bunch 367 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: of other work statuesque black woman. And she used to 368 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: do a line where she would be talking about how 369 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: she would be at these parties and she would admit 370 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: that she was a conservative, and they would look at 371 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: her with the stand and go, hmm, after all we've 372 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: done for you, it's so great. I never got to 373 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: ask her, I should I gotta find her. Oh, it's 374 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: been a long time. Whether that happened in real life, 375 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: whether or not that actually happened or whether she just 376 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: came up with the line. I'm willing to believe that 377 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: it happened because look at how often it does. But 378 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: why do we have to wait in line while others 379 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: bum rush in? That's the whole argument. That's the immigration story. 380 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: It is fantastic to hear her say it. Now we 381 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: are seeing that Immigrations and Customs Enforcement is going to 382 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: be flooding New York with agents. Of course, after you 383 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: had a border patrol agent shot who did nothing, didn't 384 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: was off duty and got robbed, got robbed and was 385 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: shot in the face. And the army and was carrying 386 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: their firearm so they were able to shoot back. But 387 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: ice agents are coming. Trump administration vowing to flood New 388 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: York City with Immigrations and Customers and Enforcement agents to 389 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: round up illegal immigrant criminals. After this off duty officer 390 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: was shot in the face. This was a botch robbery attempt, 391 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 1: the reporting from the Washington Times. So two people were 392 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: indeed arrested. Christy Nome, Homeland Security Secretary, saying one of them, Nunyez, 393 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: shouldn't have been in the country in the first place. 394 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: He had a huge criminal record. But of course when 395 00:23:55,840 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: you're dealing with the Biden administration, they'll allow absolutely anything, 396 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: absolutely anything. As Tom Homan explained. 397 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, both of them, the shooter into the accomplish I 398 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 5: was driving Bulpett. They both entered during the bidendministration. They're 399 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 5: both were released. I'm the only recognizant. Wasn't eve a 400 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 5: momb place on, wasn't the tension. They released them right away. 401 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 5: And as you said, in the last four years, sean unvetted, 402 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 5: unvetted people released illegal amage released in the country, weren't 403 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 5: held more than a day. 404 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 3: And you know, and they've. 405 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 5: Both been involved with criminal activity in Massachusetts and New 406 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 5: York or rested in New York three times, and not 407 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 5: one time did NYPD reach out to isiser respond to 408 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 5: our detainer. Just reached back. 409 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: Industry. Don't tell me there's no difference between the two 410 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: political parties. Because one party believes in getting rid of 411 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: illegal immigrants and another party believes in giving more of 412 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 1: your dollars to a legal immigrants. There there's a difference. 413 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 1: There's a very very large difference in the parties. So 414 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 1: this of the zone, as Tom Homan refers to it, 415 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 1: the only thing I don't know is whether or not 416 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: they mean we're going to add another fifty agents or 417 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 1: we're going to add another five thousand agents and we're 418 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: going to go through this like where Circe Lanister lay 419 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 1: in wildfire on the place. I don't have that answer. 420 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: I want that answer, and I want to hear that 421 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 1: it's the latter. The guy who with the robbery attempt 422 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: was just sitting there, well, it was he out on 423 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 1: a date. I'm not even quite sure what was going on, 424 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 1: but as illegal immigrant with there's a legal immigrant friend 425 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 1: who was on a moped. They just rolled up were like, okay, 426 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: let's rob these people. And again I will remind you 427 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: that the people who make the claim, you know, immigrants 428 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: commit crimes at lower rates than citizens. Three things here. First, 429 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: we're talking about illegal immigrants, not legal immigrants. We're always 430 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: talking about illegal immigrants, but the Left lies about the subject, 431 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: that always tries to conflate the two because they don't 432 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: want to have an honest conversation. They are frauds from 433 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 1: the word go. Secondly, of course American citizens would in 434 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: a percentage commit more crime they're more American citizens then 435 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: there would be illegal immigrants. This would only make sense 436 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: on the map, and we're talking about overall crime figures 437 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 1: as opposed to statistics of within the group itself. And 438 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: then number three, if no illegal immigrants were allowed in 439 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: the United States or were in the United States, the 440 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 1: total number of crimes committed by the illegal immigrant would 441 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: be zero. So what are we actually discussing. What we're 442 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: discussing is progressive pablem, and we don't have time for 443 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: progressive pablem. We do have time to ensure that the 444 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: city are cities, any city, your city, our country, your 445 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: state is safe and secure to the best of our ability. 446 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: This is actually the argument that I think needs to 447 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: go forward at every kitchen table, at every family reunion, 448 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 1: at every conversation on every barstool. I accept because I 449 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:28,719 Speaker 1: am alive that I cannot make things be perfect. It 450 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 1: can't be done in cities around the country and around 451 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: the globe. They engage an idea something called vision zero. 452 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of vision zero? Well, hold on 453 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: to your hats. It's pretty in citious stuff. Yesee, I 454 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: think this was the Swedes that came up with this nonsense. 455 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 1: The Kami Swedes, right, they're comedies everywhere. So these are 456 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: the Commy Swedes and the theory. The philosophy behind vision 457 00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 1: zero is to reduce car accidents to zero, meaning car 458 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: problems or car accidents involving pedestrians, bicyclists, etc. Bring those 459 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 1: down to zero. Now I ask you, how does that happen? 460 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: How do you bring the accident down to zero? Human 461 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: nature is a thing, and sometimes bad things happen. So 462 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: I ask again, how do you bring it down to zero? 463 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: You bring it down to zero by not having cars 464 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: on the road. Isn't this what we have seen from 465 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 1: the environmentalist? What do you think road diets are? Have 466 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: you ever heard the term road diet. Well they bring 467 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: it down from two lanes to one lane. Well, they 468 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: put speed bumps in. Well they take away this opportunity. 469 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: Well they move you over here. Well they're going to 470 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: change traffic flows over there. All meant to make you 471 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: stop driving, which is of course their goal when it 472 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: comes to you having mobility, they are willing to move 473 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: heaven and earth to ensure that you don't. There was 474 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: never a moment that the environmentalist was more overjoyed than 475 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: during COVID, and you saw no people. For example, in 476 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: Los Angeles on the four h five and they said, 477 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: this is amazing, this is fantastic. Look, no one's on 478 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: the roads. Maybe we can do this once a month 479 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: and really save the environment. Nobody was better off with 480 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: a lack of mobility, Yet they are in favor of it. 481 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: Every single place you twist and you turn. They are 482 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: in favor of centralized planning for mobility that eliminates the 483 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: automobile and your ability to have actual freedom. You can 484 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: only go from their government designated point A to their 485 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: government designated point B. That is an obscene way to live. 486 00:29:55,600 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: And nobody, and I mean nobody, wants the bus. The 487 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: bus is a twentieth century solution to a twenty first 488 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: century problem. They want a car, or they want uber 489 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: this is what they want. Nobody wants the freaking bus. 490 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: They don't care because their ideology says to them, we 491 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: need to end cars being on the road. And what 492 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: will make the claim of is we can make the 493 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: death rates or the injury rate zero vision zero from 494 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: a legal activity. Driving is a legal activity. Being able 495 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: to move about the country of which you are a 496 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: citizen is a legal activity, and that's what they want 497 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: to make illegal by claiming that it is immoral. And 498 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: then of course, we're just saving lives. We're doing this 499 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: for your safety, for your protection. While on that last line, 500 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: I would like to see the Trump administration pick up 501 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: that line. We are getting rid of a legal immigrants 502 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: for your safety, for your protection. We are here to 503 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: protect you. It's like when I'll talk about this the 504 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: other day, when the cop puts you in cuffs. You 505 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: know for your safety. It's not for my safety. Stop 506 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: being silly. When you have to provide twenty seven pieces 507 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: of information to buy pseudo fed you know, for your safety, 508 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: for your safety in ours, provide an ID and blood 509 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: work and urine sample. It's not for my safety. We 510 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: all know this. But removing illegal immigrants is for your safety. 511 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: So say it. We're removing illegal immigrants for your safety. 512 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: Steal their line. But if they believe that, if you 513 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: got cars off the road, because they believe it, and 514 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: you would bring accidents down to zero, isn't the same 515 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: thing true about illegal immigrants. Well, there's no such thing 516 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: as an illegal immigrant. No person is illegal. We have 517 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: a legal ect activity, and you're telling me I can't 518 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: do it anymore. You want me not to be able 519 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: to do it anymore. You are willing to put an 520 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: absolute clamp on the concept of mobility, unless, of course, 521 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: that mobility means entering the country illegally, to which you 522 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: are fine. First things first, there's a great reason why 523 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: these people are not allowed to win another election. You 524 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: cannot let these people win elections. These people are nuts. 525 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: But secondly, we should be engaged in vision zero of 526 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: illegal immigration. Can you get there? No, you can't get 527 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: to zero. And by the way, these people who want 528 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: the lack of cars, the only way they get there 529 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: through the barrel of a gun. Through true authoritarianism. We 530 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: get to the best we can through the utilization of legislation, 531 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: of the recognition that we are a country. We do 532 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: have borders. Borders should be protected and borders should be respected, 533 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: and we should be listening to people like this woman 534 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: from Miami. We should be listening to people like her, 535 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: and we should be saying out loud, very clearly that 536 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: we want people coming into the country the right way, 537 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: like Angie Wong's husband, and we should be applauding that 538 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: and supporting that. Is saying that is the standard, and 539 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: no deviation of the standard will do it. Is this 540 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: everyone is like Angie Wong's husband, or it is nothing, 541 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: thank you, because that's how we get as close as 542 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: possible to having no illegal immigrants engaging in any harm 543 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: against any citizen who has worked hard to be here 544 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: or was lucky enough to be born here and knows it. 545 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz. Today. We have 546 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: been discussing the situation of the Drews dru Z in Syria. 547 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 1: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today and the engagement from the 548 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: Israelis to stop the onslaught against the Drews by the 549 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:28,240 Speaker 1: Bedouins and being helped out by parts of the Syrian military. 550 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: And Syria has been under this new leadership which I 551 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: have certainly on paper little faith in, but they've been 552 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: supportive of the United States. They cleared airspace for the 553 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: Israelis to be able to go after the Iranians. Sanctions 554 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: have been lessened against Syria because there's this great opportunity 555 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: that seems to take place now after but charl Lesad 556 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: has been moved out. And then you see this if 557 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: you haven't seen the video of these men, these Drews 558 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: men being marched quite literally to the execution and you 559 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 1: see them shot and killed by these Islamists screaming Alu akbar. 560 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: It's in a world of totally desensitizing video. It's it's brutal, 561 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: it's brutal. And yes, indeed, the Trump administration is going 562 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: to have to make moves here because you would want 563 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 1: things to be better in Syria. If this is what's happening, 564 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: this is not better. And I don't know if they will, 565 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. What I do know is that anywhere 566 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: Islamists are allowed to be in control, everybody else will 567 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 1: be destroyed. Not only incompatible is the Islamist with Western civilization. 568 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:52,800 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the Islamist but incompatible in non Western civilizations. 569 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: It's horrifying stuff. And more needs to be discussed about 570 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: the Druids and the plight of Christians as well in 571 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: any of these nations. Find everything at Tony kats dot com. Tomorrow, 572 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: everyone take care of it.