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Speaker 1: Wow, let the end of the year festivities commence. Dear Lord.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I've ever felt this way about

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Speaker 2: a year. Maybe it's because ending the year with a

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Speaker 2: cold is just like, Dear Lord, make it stop. There's

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Speaker 2: a part of me thrilled that twenty twenty five is

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Speaker 2: coming to an end.

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Speaker 3: Part of you, every part of me is thrilled that

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Speaker 2: Is that because Fingers Maloy Senior moved in and the

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Speaker 2: move of new houses and everything else.

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Speaker 3: No, it has been a very stressful year, but I'm

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Speaker 3: thrilled that Fingers Moy Senior has moved into right Casa

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Speaker 3: Dave thing wife.

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Speaker 1: You don't call kasade Fingers I do, now, that's what

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Speaker 1: I thought.

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Speaker 2: See drink smoke, come Tony Katz, and that right there

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Speaker 2: is America's favorite amateur drinker, Fingers Maloy. I just feel

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Speaker 2: like it has taken for forever to get here, and

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Speaker 2: I don't know, this last month seems to.

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Speaker 1: Have been just a problem, but maybe not for you.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's an hour wonderful and joyous Christmas and now

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Speaker 2: you're just gonna float yourself into the new year and

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Speaker 2: get things started fresh.

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Speaker 1: We are ending the year with.

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Speaker 2: The TAA exclusive from Espinoza. This is the Knuckle Sandwich

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Speaker 2: off menu. This only comes in one size and is

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Speaker 2: not available everywhere. This was a release for the Tobacconist

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Speaker 2: Association of America, So if your local cigar lounge is

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Speaker 2: part of the TAA, you can find this. Maybe you

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Speaker 2: can find it online search for it. The knuckle Sandwich

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Speaker 2: has been hugely popular. It's been a great success. It's

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Speaker 2: done incredible work for Espinoza, who does some lovely cigars

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Speaker 2: on his own. This comes in one vitola. This is

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Speaker 2: a six by fifty four, which means it's six inches long.

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Speaker 2: Tea always makes fingers when my laugh. And the ring

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Speaker 2: gage is a fifty four the diameter of the cigar

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Speaker 2: or how thick it is around tea again with the laughter.

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Speaker 1: So this is a Pennsylvania Broadleaf, which I do really like.

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Speaker 2: Nicaraguan in the binder and the filler, and I will

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Speaker 2: tell you I know that this box press is going

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Speaker 2: to be a full body cigar. How do I know

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Speaker 2: this because it's Espinoza and the vast majority of where

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Speaker 2: they play is in these to me, very bold flavors,

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Speaker 2: a little bit of the unique flavors that they get

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Speaker 2: to the other knuckle sandwiches. You know, there's a series

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Speaker 2: on the Chefs Edition, et cetera. I think you play

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Speaker 2: in that medium medium full this right now, with the

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Speaker 2: darkness of this, the richest of this, and what I

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Speaker 2: know about it, this is.

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Speaker 1: Going to be a full body smoke. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And the hand feel right off the bat with that

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Speaker 3: box press, between that and the nice little bit of

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Speaker 3: half to it is a home run in my mind.

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Speaker 3: You're just you're just you're just cutting the cap off.

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Speaker 2: Now, yeah, just right now, right now as we speak. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to start without everybody. You know, they

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Speaker 2: waited for me. I wait for that.

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Speaker 1: Oh you didn't wait, No, of course.

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Speaker 3: Well, someone has to describe some of the flavor notes

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Speaker 3: that you're getting from the cigar.

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Speaker 2: What are the flavor notes you're getting from the cigar?

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Speaker 2: Fingers started to early Maloyd.

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Speaker 3: Uh, it's earthy and then maybe a little a little

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Speaker 3: bit of chocolate, not a whole heck of a lot,

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Speaker 3: but a hint of it there. I'm not really getting

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Speaker 3: any pepper or spice at this point, but I lit mine,

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Speaker 3: Uh four minutes before Tony's lighting. Is you had a cold. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I still do. And then a week later I had

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Speaker 1: Are you in the trail end a tailing end, finishing

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Speaker 1: end of this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, A little bit of sinus uh inflammation going on

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Speaker 3: and a lot of chest congestion, but it's still there.

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Speaker 1: It's one of those.

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Speaker 3: It really does stink to have a cold because it

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Speaker 3: for a lot of people, including myself, it feels like

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Speaker 3: a last a month long.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And I had a I had a business meeting two

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Speaker 2: of one of our favorite cigar lounges here in Indianapolis,

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Speaker 2: Blend Bar Cigar. And I had a cigar and I picked,

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Speaker 2: I said, what is the boldest, richest cigar? So I

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Speaker 2: can actually taste it because I still had the nose cold.

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Speaker 2: When you have it in the nose, I mean, and

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Speaker 2: I don't suggest smoking when you have a cold at all.

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Speaker 2: You could still find some things that you can actually

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Speaker 2: so throws the breathing off. You're just so unhappy. Don't

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Speaker 2: do it, really and truly, don't do it and don't

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Speaker 2: rush it. Fingers is doing it because A eat, drink,

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Speaker 2: for punishment. But don't the nose. Sometimes you can get

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Speaker 2: away with it, right. You could still find flavors. The

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Speaker 1: It's a breathing.

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Speaker 3: I completely disagree with you. Really, yes, I will say this.

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Speaker 3: Don't go into your humidor and get one of your

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Speaker 3: favorite cigars that you spend a lot of money on.

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Speaker 3: God no, But if you feel like you need something

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Speaker 3: to help you relax to unwind, find yourself the daily

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Speaker 3: smoke that maybe you look and you saw in the

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Speaker 3: human door. Oh oh the rappers cracked. Go ahead and

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Speaker 3: like that one and sit back and try to unwind

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Speaker 3: and relax. As long as you know the chest congestion

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Speaker 3: is not too bad to where you'll start coughing up

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now, you are not wrong about this.

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Speaker 2: The off menu from a knuckle sandwich Espinoza. This is

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Speaker 2: freaking hefty. You earthy?

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Speaker 1: Was you know? Earthy is one of those things that

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Speaker 1: drives some people up a wall.

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Speaker 2: It's like how some people react to the word moist

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Speaker 2: like earthy just sends them Oh sorry, what fingers?

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Speaker 1: Wow?

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Speaker 3: The everyone in on you know, listening to the radio

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Speaker 3: the word moist.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not one of those people.

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Speaker 2: This earthy is is is one of those things that

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Speaker 1: And do you mean dirt? Do you mean smelly? Do

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Speaker 1: you mean like grassish? What? There?

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Speaker 2: Dirt is a great great way to get into this,

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Speaker 2: but not manure, right, manure is what we call the

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Speaker 2: And it's not that it it only sounds off putting.

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Speaker 1: It really isn't. Holy cow.

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Speaker 2: Earth is an excellent way to get into the first

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Speaker 3: Yeah to me, And this is where my cold maybe

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Speaker 3: playing tricks on my palette. It's it's dirt mixed with

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Speaker 3: almost like a like wet leaves. Does that make sense?

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Speaker 2: It if wet leaves were in the fireplace, we're we're

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Speaker 2: we're in the bonfire. Yeah, that as a flavor that's

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Speaker 2: where you are, and honestly super cool. Very rarely can

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Speaker 2: smokey right now that I would attribute to certain bourbons. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I am, as a matter of course, not the biggest

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Speaker 2: fan of the knuckle sandwich. I understand that how it exploded.

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Speaker 2: I understand its success, and I'm thrilled for Estmonosa, for

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Speaker 2: Eric and the entire team over there, and for guy

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Speaker 2: who we've interviewed him before. He was certainly nice enough

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Speaker 2: to us. He's been a good ambassador for cigars. I've

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Speaker 2: heard different things about him as a person, but people

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Speaker 2: have heard different things about me as a person. Who

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Speaker 2: am I to say? This is the first one where

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Speaker 2: I'm like, well, that's trying something.

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Speaker 1: This is way off.

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Speaker 2: The path from the regular knuckle sandwich or the chef's

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Speaker 2: dish and anything else. You can feel this in the throat.

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Speaker 2: This is everywhere, and I I mean we should repairing

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Speaker 2: it with a rye. We'll get into that. You compare

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Speaker 2: this with I'd like to see this with a Scotch

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Speaker 2: and see if it competes, see how that plays. It's

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Speaker 2: kind and nuts, but yes, bonfire and that that's a

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Speaker 2: really good description, man, Bravo on you.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's a good read. I've done this before, and

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Speaker 3: I'm pairing it right now with coffee, and I'm very

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Speaker 3: happy with that pairing.

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Speaker 1: Right Duncan taking care of you today. I didn't know

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Speaker 2: It's okay, it's okay. They might find coffee. Duncan does

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Speaker 2: find coffee. I approve they would be great sponsors of

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Speaker 2: Eat Drink Smoke.

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Speaker 3: Well, I had Fingers coffee back at the house and

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Speaker 3: I left it on the counter. I thought it would

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Speaker 3: be a good idea just to leave it there. It's

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Speaker 3: a good place for it. Now, what is the cost

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Speaker 3: of the cigar? And is it in the humid are

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Speaker 1: In just a little bit. I'll say it again.

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Speaker 2: So, as we have often discussed here at Eat Drink Smoke,

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Speaker 2: we don't know whether there are more recalls happening, or

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Speaker 2: whether or not we know about more recalls because we're

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Speaker 2: paying attention to them. But this ice cream one, this

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Speaker 2: is new. It's Eat Drink Smoke. I'm Tony Katz. That

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Speaker 2: is America's favorite amateur drinker fingers maloy. This is from

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Speaker 2: Southern Living, where Fingersmoy gets all his recall news.

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Speaker 3: Well that and also I like to keep tabs on

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Speaker 3: what it's like to live in the South.

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Speaker 2: According to the US Food and Drug Administration denon denone

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Speaker 2: its quote so delicious dairy free salted caramel cluster non

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Speaker 3: What yeah, okay my kids? My kids eat the don

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Speaker 3: dairy ice cream, do they?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Because everybody either apparently under the age of twenty five,

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Speaker 1: We are so doomed. The recall was issued due to

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Speaker 1: a the potential presence of farm materials quote such as

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Speaker 1: small stones and other hard objects. Why why are you

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Speaker 1: giggling like like I've never seen you turn away from

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Speaker 3: What is what is so comedic? Small stones in your

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Speaker 3: ice cream?

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Speaker 1: I I don't even understand how it's possible.

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Speaker 3: You ever pan your ice cream before you eat it?

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Speaker 3: Does that ever happen?

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Speaker 2: I understand how machinery can get a metal fragment in

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Speaker 2: it's it's it seems odd, but you can kind of

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Speaker 2: understand it. How in the world do small stones end

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Speaker 2: up in the ice cream?

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Speaker 3: Apparently it's within cashew inclusions. What I'm only as in

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Speaker 3: the cashew nut.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and so when they get the cashews, because the

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Speaker 2: nut grows in the ground, there are small pebbles and

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Speaker 2: no one washed.

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Speaker 1: No one washed it. They may have just wiped it clean.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just making stuff up now.

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Speaker 3: That's what Southern Living is reporting that the small stones

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Speaker 3: and other hard objects apparently could have been incorporated in

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Speaker 1: Nothing is safe anymore, absolutely nothing, not even Jim Beam.

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Speaker 1: Oh oh, the gym Beam is there now.

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Speaker 2: Lexicon Herald leader with the reporting, and we've talked about this,

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Speaker 2: and Fingers was mentioning during the break.

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Speaker 1: I agree.

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Speaker 2: I think it's actually a shorter timeline. You're going to

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Speaker 2: it's Beam sentory. You're talking about massive dollars you're going

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Speaker 2: We saw massive increase in distilleries. And the problem is

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Speaker 2: But people are drinking less. Gen Z is drinking less.

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Speaker 2: You've got ozembic, You've got as you brought up gummies,

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Speaker 2: Beam is going to shut down production on January first

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Speaker 2: not the barrels will still be there. They're just not

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Speaker 2: where they are and then adjust. It makes sense, but

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Speaker 2: it does tell a story. The COVID stuff, the COVID

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Speaker 3: How does it happen so fast? You mentioned the COVID

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Speaker 1: It was eighteen on four here John Kennedy was still alive.

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Speaker 3: You were listening to old time radio and your thoughts

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Speaker 1: Something, something strong, a belt if you will.

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Speaker 3: Why don't I go to the liquor cabinet and get

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Speaker 1: It's amazing how quickly this is happening.

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Speaker 2: So let's go take a step back. The shift amongst

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Speaker 2: all of that which covered up what was happening. You

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Speaker 2: Now you add into this not only generational shifts, but

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Speaker 2: Not us, but they're losing weight. Uh and and uh,

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Speaker 3: I would love to talk to someone who is on

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Speaker 3: Is it that they drink less because it hits them harder,

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Speaker 3: They have less.

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Speaker 2: According to the to the sources, Uh, it's less of

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Speaker 1: It doesn't it doesn't sound right. I don't think I

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Speaker 3: I didn't know if it was like a negative body

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Speaker 2: They someone could have that. I just that's not what

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Speaker 2: I I've read and engaged. It's just that there's just

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Speaker 1: I think that's the story.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that it's a combination of just being

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Speaker 3: satisfied in general with little to know, whether it's food

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Speaker 3: together because of it. It's like you're just constantly you're

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's the By the way, we both

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Speaker 1: as a matter of it being an issue, it's an issue.

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Speaker 1: It is an absolute issue. You're you. You take a.

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Speaker 2: Look at what's going on with with Beam, and you

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Speaker 2: realize it's Beam. They're they're they're reading the market properly, right.

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Speaker 2: If there's somebody you're gonna follow, it's a company in

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Speaker 2: They've got barrels, and they can ramp up production anytime.

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Speaker 2: They choose smaller guys they can't.

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Speaker 1: That's what I was just about to say.

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Speaker 3: Maybe your local distillery that you are a fan of,

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Speaker 1: I just don't know it'll be enough.

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Speaker 2: In some ways, I really do think the damage has

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Speaker 1: We've got a lot to get to keep it here.

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Speaker 1: Eat I smoking it, just a garbourbon food. The extravaganza.

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Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz. That is Fingers.

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Speaker 2: you've got these two notes, this earthliness with bonfire kind

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Speaker 1: Very happy with this cigar.

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Speaker 2: and what you want to do is get out your

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Speaker 1: What did you drink today?

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Speaker 2: You know, we've got a little mild to weather this

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Speaker 2: And then you take the cigar. You write, you write

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Speaker 2: esoterical we said bonfire. I mean we have never said

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Speaker 1: But you write those things down. When you try this

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Speaker 2: You go back and compare your notes, and that's really

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Speaker 1: Uh did you try the dewey pot. It's it's a

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Speaker 2: Be it, but it is, it's it's it's a strong,

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Speaker 2: sure this is in my humid or. The question I'll

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Speaker 2: ask for you, Fingers malloy, Is it in your humid or?

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Speaker 2: For sixteen dollars a stick? Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, the whole re examining what we like

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Speaker 3: I'm very happy with it, and I could totally see

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Speaker 1: I will tell you that that. And don't get me confused.

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Speaker 2: There's compared to everything else I've done in the knuckle

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Speaker 2: the right word. Much easier, much easier. I never I

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Speaker 2: hump oompful little something. Oh this has got some freaking' oof.

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Speaker 2: This is some full bodied stuff right here. Very very

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Speaker 2: unique flavor for sure. But it's time Fingers Ratio Malon

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Speaker 2: for News of the week. Tony, Let's go to Texas.

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Speaker 1: I love.

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Speaker 2: We have to go to Memphis. We gotta go to

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Speaker 2: King Jerry Lawler Barbecue. We got somebody invite us to Texas.

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Speaker 2: We'll do a barbecue tour. We'll eat some water burger fingers,

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Speaker 1: What do you got from?

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Speaker 3: Well, I actually meant the story, but now that you

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Speaker 1: What is the story? Down? From deep in the heart

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Speaker 3: A temporary restraining order has been put against High Sense

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so okay. Paxson is also running for governor of Texas.

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Speaker 2: So there's a couple of things happening here. Not governor, sorry, Senate.

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Speaker 1: running for that Senate seat. Are you you suggesting that

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Speaker 1: this has everything to do with a political run and

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Speaker 1: not that a politician would be trying to protect Americans?

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Speaker 2: Mostly yes, But but the high sense is made by

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Speaker 2: the Chinese, the Communist Chinese Party and anything that we

440
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Speaker 2: are getting technologically. It doesn't matter where your politics are.

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Speaker 2: You have to accept the fact that China does not

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Speaker 2: play by any rules that we do. The Communist Chinese Party,

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Speaker 2: the CCP, the POLP Buro do not do this. Jijinping

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Speaker 2: the president, the dictator does not do this. And this

445
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Speaker 2: is the same reason that the United States, Canada, and

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Speaker 2: the UK have pushed aside Chinese companies like Huawei for

447
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Speaker 2: five G and those Internet protocols. Right, five G is

448
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Speaker 2: the Internet of things, and you can't trust the communist

449
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Speaker 2: Chinese to have control of these things. This is not absurd.

450
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Speaker 2: It's why you hear about land purchases in the United States.

451
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Speaker 2: Communist Chinese buying land in your military basis.

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Speaker 1: This is a serious issue.

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Speaker 2: It can't be allowed, which is a weird thing to

454
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Speaker 2: hear in the United States of America, but there's a

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Speaker 2: real national security issue. Know, the communist Chinese can't be

456
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Speaker 2: trusted because they've proven they can't be trusted. They've done

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Speaker 2: this and we would be fools if we didn't notice.

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Speaker 2: So what do I know about high sense and actual spying.

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Speaker 2: I can't say that I do.

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Speaker 1: Let me fill you in.

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Speaker 3: Oh please, So Paxston is concerned, according to Fox seven Austin,

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Speaker 3: that they use automated content recognition technology. Basically, the television

463
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Speaker 3: can spy on what you are watching and the audio

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Speaker 3: from your television, what content you're consuming, and then this

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Speaker 3: restraining order prevents High Sense from collecting and using, selling

466
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Speaker 3: or sharing, disclosing or transferring any of that data to companies.

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Speaker 3: And so that's where this is coming from. So the

468
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Speaker 3: television is basically using technology to accumulate data based on

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Speaker 3: what you're watching and listening to you.

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Speaker 2: Now, lots of people would say, what's the difference between

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Speaker 2: them and Amazon? What's the difference between them and Apple?

472
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Speaker 2: You're talking about something. The next thing you know, you

473
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Speaker 2: go to Facebook and all of a sudden there's an

474
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Speaker 2: ad for it, and you're like, what's happening here? And

475
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Speaker 2: any company that wants to say, no, your phone is

476
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Speaker 2: not listening to your phone, it's not spying on you.

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Speaker 1: Of course it is.

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Speaker 2: Everybody believes this, and anybody who thinks otherwise from these

479
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Speaker 2: companies is crazy. If these companies think that we don't

480
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Speaker 2: know this, they're full of crap.

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Speaker 1: Whether it's Google, whether it's Facebook, any of them, they're

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Speaker 1: out of their minds fingers.

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Speaker 2: So really one could argue, what's the difference, Well, the

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Speaker 2: communist Chinese are fundamentally different.

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Speaker 3: But I would really be interested in finding out. High

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Speaker 3: Sense can't be the only television company doing this correct.

487
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Speaker 3: There has to be others involved.

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Speaker 1: As well.

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Speaker 3: They're doing the similar data collection and selling that data

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Speaker 3: to other companies. So yeah, that's the question why high Sense,

491
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Speaker 3: and I think you've already kind of answered it, but yeah,

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Speaker 3: how is it different than other companies. I've mentioned this before.

493
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Speaker 3: I was out in my backyard cleaning out a window

494
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Speaker 3: well and my father said, you should. They should get

495
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Speaker 3: a cover that's completely plastic, that covers it. There's no grats.

496
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Speaker 3: My phone was in my pocket, never searched for anything

497
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Speaker 3: like that. I open up Instagram and there are these

498
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Speaker 3: covers that are for sale for window wells.

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Speaker 1: Crazy.

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Speaker 3: I never searched for that ever on my phone. Everybody's

501
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Speaker 3: listening all the time.

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Speaker 1: All the time, everywhere. It is super creepy. And yes,

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Speaker 1: I we You know.

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Speaker 2: You're the guy who is always like I don't like

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Speaker 2: saying there ought to be a law, right, You've said

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Speaker 2: it a million times and a bunch of things from that.

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Speaker 1: This stuff has to has to stop. Stuff absolutely has

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Speaker 1: to come to an end. So am I bothered by

509
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Speaker 1: this idea? If indeed they're doing this not allowing it,

510
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Speaker 1: I'm fine personally, finely. I sometimes don't know how.

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Speaker 2: We don't do better with the travel podcast because we're

512
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 2: talking about like airlines and airports all the time. Come well,

513
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 2: usually we're just complaining about TSA, but we're talking about

514
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Speaker 2: it all the time. It's eat ternk smoke. I'm Tony Katz.

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Speaker 2: That's fingers below. I find everything we do at EA

516
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Speaker 2: rink smoke show dot com. What about Spirit Airlines now?

517
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Speaker 1: Can we real quick? I have a Spirit story? You do?

518
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Speaker 2: They got one hundred million dollars as a lifeline, so

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Speaker 2: I don't know. All I saw was like like the

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Speaker 2: breaking news thing. I'm like, that's impossible. Spirit Airlines basically said,

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Speaker 2: we're done here, thank you very much. You're gonna have

522
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 2: to have a fight on somebody else's airline now. And

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Speaker 2: they sold two of their gates at Chicago was at

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Speaker 2: O'Hare to United or to American to American Airlines, and

525
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Speaker 2: all right, they're.

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Speaker 1: Getting ready to get out of business.

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Speaker 2: They couldn't guarantee that they were gonna be able to

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Speaker 2: fly any day.

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Speaker 1: Some give them a hundred million dollars what, I don't

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Speaker 1: even know how that works.

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Speaker 3: That's a wise investment I have, by the way, for

532
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Speaker 3: that investor out there, I've got a dial up internet

533
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 3: company that you should invest in.

534
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Speaker 1: I like it.

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Speaker 2: I like it a lot. Dial up as a future.

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Speaker 2: But now you have this story airports. This is the

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Speaker 2: New York Post reporting airports allow non traveling public past

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Speaker 2: security entrances for the first time in decades. So this

539
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Speaker 2: is starting in Oakland. They announced it'll be introducing guest

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Speaker 2: passes for non passengers. Now, if anybody remembers correctly, you

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Speaker 2: could go to the gate and wait for your family

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Speaker 2: to get off the gate, or you or you or

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Speaker 2: your visitor or whatever. I'd be like, get off the

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Speaker 2: plane at the gate and be like, hey, good to

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Speaker 2: say Tommy.

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Speaker 3: Or say goodbye, and watch the plane actually take off.

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Speaker 2: Right now, non passengers can apply online for security clearance

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Speaker 2: up to seven days in advance of the day they

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Speaker 2: want to visit the airport. You fill out the forum,

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Speaker 2: the TSA will approve it the visit by sending the

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Speaker 2: non passengers a guest pass. This is right now taking

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00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 2: place at Oakland, San Francisco Bay Airport, and then you

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Speaker 2: have to present the pass along with the TSA approved photo.

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Speaker 1: That's that's a step in the right direction, right. I'm

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Speaker 1: surprised after all these years, it's it's taken this long

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Speaker 1: for this to happen. Well, so I can answer this, Okay,

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Speaker 1: It's not that it's taken so long for this to happen.

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Speaker 2: It's that a government that wants power and control will

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Speaker 2: do the things that give it power and control the

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Speaker 2: guys of safety and security. Now again, I'm not trying

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Speaker 2: to be political, and I think that people a republican

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Speaker 2: and democratic, conservative and liberal, however you might describe yourself

563
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Speaker 2: anything between our libertarian friends and all that would agree

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Speaker 2: that if you claim we have to keep these things safe,

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Speaker 2: it is amazing what people will do under the guise

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Speaker 2: of safety, which is always the fundamental problem.

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Speaker 1: The thing we really talk about with travels the TSA.

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Speaker 1: The TSA is not our best conversation and our best

569
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Speaker 1: foot forward in the idea of safety, because we're not

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Speaker 1: dealing with threats. We're dealing with abusing the American traveler.

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Speaker 1: Take off your shoes.

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Speaker 2: One person engages a shoe bomb, and for over a

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Speaker 2: decade we have to take off our shoes.

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Speaker 1: That isn't the way that should be handled. The idea of.

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Speaker 2: The radicalness in the way that TSA treats the American traveler.

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Speaker 2: We've discussed this in depth. Part of the reason you

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Speaker 2: see such anxiety at airports. Never mind an anxiety ridden society.

578
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 2: Never mind how airlines are treating the passengers, how TSA

579
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 2: treats the passengers as if somehow they're the problem, that

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00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 2: they are suspects one at all, as opposed to American

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Speaker 2: citizens engaging in flight. That's why the degradation of air

582
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 2: travel is so striking and so awful when it used

583
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 2: to be this thing of luxury and prestige. It's why

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Speaker 2: I appreciate the Secretary of Transportation Sean Duffy quoting me

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Speaker 2: by saying, put on a suit when you fly. Show

586
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 2: some damn respect for yourself, show some respect for fellow passengers.

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00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 2: It's about an attitude. But if you don't recognize that

588
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 2: the TSA is engaged in such a responsibility for failing

589
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Speaker 2: in that, I don't know what you're doing now, I

590
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 2: notice fingers, you're looking directly into the camera. If you

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Speaker 2: haven't caught the video there at YouTube dot com, slash

592
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Speaker 2: eatering smoke, what's your problem?

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Speaker 3: You had me until the whole part of the rant

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Speaker 3: where it came to wearing a suit. I'm a plane.

595
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 3: I'm sorry when plane. When airline companies turned air travel

596
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 3: into going to Walmart. That's when the whole I'm gonna

597
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 3: wear a suit thing stops for me. I don't wear

598
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Speaker 3: a suit in Walmart. I'm not gonna wear a suit

599
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 3: on a discount airline, on a plane where an airline

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Speaker 3: will say to me before I get on the plane,

601
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Speaker 3: use the bathroom before you get on that plane, because

602
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 3: only one lavatory is working. Oh and by the way,

603
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 3: if you want a snack, you should get it now

604
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Speaker 3: because we only have one beverage cart on the plane.

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Speaker 1: Those last two things actually happened to us sun Flights.

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Speaker 1: That does it.

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Speaker 3: But having said that, you know, I agree with you

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Speaker 3: for the most part about TSA. Some people call much

609
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Speaker 3: of what TSA does security theater. But I have to

610
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Speaker 3: tell you when I was flying out of Florida one

611
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Speaker 3: time and I was right behind a nine year old

612
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 3: as a TSA agent was frantic searching that nine year

613
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 3: old's SpongeBob square pants backpack and looking for something, I

614
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 3: felt safer afterward.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I like about that, The believability

616
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Speaker 4: that you felt safe for it is it's TSA theater,

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Speaker 4: of course, it is.

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Speaker 2: We're We're we want eighty year old women to stand

619
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Speaker 2: up out of their wheelchairs so they can be physically frisked.

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Speaker 1: What do we were? It's pretend it's garbage.

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Speaker 3: You don't know what was going through Ethel's mind as

622
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Speaker 3: she's going through security.

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Speaker 1: Eth was the name of my grandmother? Really? Yeah, it was.

624
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Speaker 3: Let's let's be honest here, Ethyl, Litle, Bertha, Mabel. Those

625
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 3: are the three grammar names. Everybody knows it.

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Speaker 1: The only thing Ethel was a danger to was the kitchen.

627
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Speaker 1: That's it.

628
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Speaker 2: Because she was gonna whip that mother into shape and

629
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Speaker 2: make incredible things right. That kitchen was going to work

630
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 2: hard when Ethel was in there.

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Speaker 1: That's it. That's it. Ethel was it.

632
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Speaker 3: Why now when it comes to this, when it when

633
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Speaker 3: it comes to the idea that you can be a

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Speaker 3: a non traveler and actually go through a TSA security So.

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Speaker 1: A little bit of this has been happening. Cleveland has

636
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Speaker 1: one of these kinds of passes. San Antonio has one

637
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: of these kinds of Passnesota's Kansas City, Philadelphia, Detroit. I'm happy.

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00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:27,479
Speaker 1: I'm happy to see it. Uh, and I don't.

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Speaker 2: I think maybe the why now is that we've come

640
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 2: to a realization that we are all kidding ourselves we're

641
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 2: fooling ourselves and it's well, it's dumb. It's a dumb

642
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 2: thing to do. We should stop that. Who is the threat,

643
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 2: what are the threats? How does one combat the threat?

644
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Speaker 2: And does the American citizen have to somehow be subjugated

645
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Speaker 2: to an unelected bureaucracy that is I think not well

646
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Speaker 2: trained and it seems to be very much in the

647
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 2: belief that the American flyer is the enemy.

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Speaker 3: Well, my if this is a trial program and they're

649
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 3: going to eventually roll this out nationwide, I'm thrilled. My

650
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 3: only problem with all of this is, Okay, we federalized

651
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:24,479
Speaker 3: airport security, and yet airport security is different at every

652
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Speaker 3: airport right and that, to me is something that needs

653
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Speaker 3: to be addressed. We can go to one airport and

654
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 3: they don't want you to take your computer out. In fact,

655
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 3: they actually get angry with you if you take your

656
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 3: computer out. But then you're at another airport that you're

657
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 3: flying back to the first airport that didn't want you

658
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 3: to take the computer out, and they're mad at you

659
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 3: for not taking your computer out. If you're going to

660
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 3: federalize all this stuff, there needs to be uniform security

661
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 3: procedures at every airport.

662
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 2: And they don't have uniform technology at every airport, so

663
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 2: they do have a uniform procedure at every airport. And

664
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 2: then they get angry at us and it's barking orders

665
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 2: as opposed to a politeness. And then these signs that

666
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 2: say if you are verbally aggressive with TSA.

667
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: You could be fined. And you this and you that. No,

668
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,439
Speaker 1: Sean Duffy, I know you. I know you. You watch

669
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Speaker 1: and you listen to the show, and I appreciate it.

670
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: Sean Transportation Secretary. Fix this. By the way, you're right

671
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: about the suits. I thank you for taking my advice.

672
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Speaker 1: Fix this. I'm totally right about the suits. Fingers zubaz pants.

673
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Speaker 1: You are you are? You are terrible. You're the reason

674
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: that everything is here.

675
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,600
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676
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Speaker 3: the airport wearing a tank top and short shorts, and

677
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 3: that's not what I do.

678
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679
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682
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683
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684
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687
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691
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Speaker 1: It is Christmas week. I hope everybody had a fantastic,

706
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: glorious happy Christmas.

707
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,479
Speaker 2: And we, you know, coming off the cold and everything else,

708
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 2: we said, well, go heavy on the cigar. But when

709
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 2: it comes to a bourbon again, gone back to the well.

710
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 2: It's eat, drink smoke. Come Tony Katz. That right there

711
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 2: is America's favorite amateur drinker, Fingers from White Fingers. I

712
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 2: was going through the eat, drink, smoke liquor cabinet here,

713
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 2: which is massive, and I realized that we redid the

714
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 2: Jefferson's Ocean the age at see Rye in earlier this year,

715
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 2: like in January of twenty twenty five, And somehow I

716
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 2: didn't realize that we had opened a bottle, even though

717
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 2: we already had a bottle. So I have two open

718
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 2: bottles of Jefferson's Ocean Aged at Sea Voyage number twenty six,

719
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 2: double barrel dry. We should do something about that. That's

720
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 2: what we're drinking right now. Okay, So we're ending the

721
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 2: year the way we started the year. At ninety six

722
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 2: proof no applause from fingers willow. I so close yet

723
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 2: so far the double barrel rye from Jefferson's Ocean. So

724
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: the concept here at the Age at Sea of the

725
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,760
Speaker 2: Age and c Is that the barrels are put on boats,

726
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 2: They're put out on the water, and the rocking of

727
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 2: the water moves the juice around in the barrel.

728
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: So you get a different flavor from it. Do I

729
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: believe it? I'm not one hundred percent sure. Here's what

730
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 1: I know. It's a very very nice presentation.

731
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 2: It's a beautiful color in there, with a bit of

732
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 2: orange and a bit of richness going on. And even

733
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 2: as I call it the tail end of this cold,

734
00:39:55,000 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 2: how lovely, how nice, how flavorful.

735
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a bit of rye spice as a nice

736
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 3: bit of sweetness that I can't quite put my finger on.

737
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 3: Not a whole heck of a lot of oak. But man,

738
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 3: if I were the type that would go to a

739
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 3: candle shop and say, ShopKeep right, I would like a

740
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 3: candle and they would say, well, what do you want

741
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 3: it to smell like? I would give them a glass

742
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 3: of this right here.

743
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: It's really really a nice presentation on the nose, and

744
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:37,720
Speaker 1: there is a little bit of caramel.

745
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 2: It comes across as a little bit fruit for me

746
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 2: right there on the nose. I don't know if that's

747
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 2: totally accurate, but it is delicious, Yeah, just delicious. But

748
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 2: enough enough. We have done this many times. This is

749
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 2: actually the third time we have done this. We did

750
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 2: this in twenty twenty two, did the beginning of twenty

751
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 2: twenty five, and just decided, let's.

752
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 3: The end of the year with something just we know

753
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 3: is perfect. Yeah, because both of us are sick. You're

754
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 3: you're I'm a little bit further along than you are

755
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 3: with the cold. But to be fair, you know, some

756
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 3: people ask us, why do we revisit stuff. We've done

757
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 3: the show now for twenty one years.

758
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 2: Right, it's been a long it's been a long it's

759
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 2: been six years. It's been six years, and so some

760
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 2: things are going to repeat themselves. In some things we

761
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 2: want to repeat themselves.

762
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: Don't worry.

763
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 2: We start off in twenty twenty six. We've got a

764
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 2: huge you hold on fingers. Fingers has tried to take

765
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 2: a sip twice. We have got so many new things

766
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 2: to bring you fantastic and yes, more tequilas and more RUMs,

767
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 2: and I only mentioned the rum because starting next week

768
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 2: we give you our top three bourbons and our top

769
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 2: three cigars of the year, and you might see a

770
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 2: rum on my list. Really, I'm just leaving that as

771
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 2: a possible tease right now.

772
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 1: You know you could further the teas by saying yo

773
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: hoo ho in a barrel of rum. Yeah, I try.

774
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: Fingers are ready for this. I've been ready for this

775
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: all year.

776
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 2: Fingers will always going to do what is called the

777
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 2: Kentucky chew, taking the juice, moving it around the palette,

778
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 2: really getting a feel for those flavors.

779
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: I believe in the two steps methodology.

780
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 2: The first zip to set the taste buds right, get

781
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 2: over that initial a chak er sting, whatever it may be.

782
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 2: The second sip to really get an idea, the feel

783
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 2: the flavors of this. The Jefferson's Ocean. This is the

784
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 2: agency double barrel rye whiskey coming in at ninety six.

785
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 2: Proof is what's going on here? Voyage twenty six In

786
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 2: case you're keeping an eye at home, what say you?

787
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,439
Speaker 3: For those of you that don't know the Voyage twenty six,

788
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,439
Speaker 3: it's a little bit better than the Voyage twenty five,

789
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 3: but not as good.

790
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: As the Voyage twenty seven. Every time, every time, what

791
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 1: say you fingers?

792
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 3: That oak is there, There is a little bit of caramel,

793
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 3: that rye spice is there, and there's another sweetness. It's

794
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 3: almost like a like a bready sweetness that's there that

795
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 3: I think that's what it is. It's it's I'm having

796
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 3: a hard time. I'm having a hard time putting my

797
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 3: finger on it. But listen, it's it's lovely. And I mean,

798
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 3: you saw how much of our little poor here that

799
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 3: I took.

800
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,720
Speaker 1: I took a nice switch take a grown man sip.

801
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 3: Yeah I did, and it it doesn't play like it's

802
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 3: almost a hundred proof to me anyway. But again, I'm

803
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 3: sick and this is medicinal, So go ahead give us

804
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 3: your impression, Tony.

805
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:32,240
Speaker 1: This is Voyage twenty six, the Jefferson's Ocean Age. A't see.

806
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 2: It's Christmas week and you had a fantastic Christmas and

807
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 2: at least we hope. And then you got your feet

808
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 2: up and the family is left and the kids are

809
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 2: playing with their toys while they're still interested in the toys,

810
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 2: and you have a chance to have a.

811
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: Drink, and you went with a classic. You went with

812
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: something great. That's why we chose it.

813
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 3: Here you go, he's going in ladies and gentlemen, and

814
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 3: he's doing what we like to call here at eatring smoke,

815
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 3: the saganaw swish, the Memphis munch, Chattanooga chomp man.

816
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: It's so oh he's.

817
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,720
Speaker 3: Going back and oh, you know what, and and again

818
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 3: it's medicinal.

819
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 1: It is you almost busted at ahamad ahamadahamad Ha.

820
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 2: It's so good. It is so so good. It's such

821
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 2: a wonderful presentation. It does have that that real sweetness

822
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 2: going on, at least that's what I'm getting. The rise

823
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 2: spice is there as you get into the to the

824
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 2: finish and you.

825
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: Get a little bit, you get a little bit of

826
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 1: the spice I think in in in the finish, But

827
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: that that palette is luscious and warm and has got

828
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: a kind of holiday sweet.

829
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 2: I guess you could call it. The bready sweet that

830
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 2: you're talking about. I think is really there, but it's

831
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 2: it's met with a little bit of like creaminess. The

832
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 2: guys over breaking Bourbon dot Com referred to it as

833
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 2: a toasted marshmallow, which I think is a nice way

834
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,240
Speaker 2: to put it. I don't think I get that esoteric

835
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 2: in my in my commentaries, everything about it is just

836
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 2: so enjoyable, relaxed. And while there I don't have a

837
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 2: mash bell on this, I have no mash belt on

838
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 2: the on the Jefferson's Jefferson's Ocean Agency, Rye. The spice

839
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 2: is not in intensity, the the the sweet and the

840
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 2: and the fullness is more on display. Absolutely adore it,

841
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 2: so absolutely adore it.

842
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 3: This is my question to you, because I have much

843
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 3: more of a sweet tooth than you do, and you

844
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 3: are the rye guy on the show. This doesn't have

845
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 3: the rye spice that you would normally be looking for

846
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 3: and ry wouldn't you want a little bit more of

847
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 3: a rye punch if I, if we're talking about like

848
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 3: like ways, I normally enjoy a rye, yes like a

849
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 3: little more of a rye hit. I for example, when

850
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 3: it comes to Rise Pikesville, to me, is has has

851
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 3: it remains after all these years the standard When when

852
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:10,280
Speaker 3: I think about a rye, this plays much much, much differently.

853
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 3: So even though it is sweeter and has a little

854
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 3: bit less of that that rice spice that you're looking for,

855
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 3: it's it's still something that you enjoy.

856
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 2: But is it in your liquor cabinet, fingers awoy for

857
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 2: somewhere in today's prices between eighty and one hundred dollars.

858
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: That's tricky. Yeah, not for me. Yeah, it's in the

859
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 1: liquor cabinet.

860
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 2: Oh, it's one of those that isn't my everyday rye.

861
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 2: It just presents so beautiful, so beautifully that there is

862
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 2: a bottle in the liquor cabinet of the Jefferson's Ocean

863
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 2: Agency rot There were two.

864
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, well now there's soon to just be one. Very

865
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: good news for fingers of a loy. The I R

866
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: S is confirmed that the Jackport jack pot reporting threshold

867
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: will increase the two thousand dollars. It's about damn time

868
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: see drink smoke. I'm Tony Katz. That is American's favorite

869
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: amateur drinker.

870
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 2: Fingers But boy, but you when when it says jackpot,

871
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 2: does it mean like like a like a slot machine

872
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 2: or does.

873
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 1: It mean any winning? Well, it normally affects uh slot players. Listen.

874
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 3: I'm not a high roller where I can spend two

875
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 3: thousand dollars a hand on blackjack? Right, but if you were,

876
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 3: would you that would be the game to play or uh,

877
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 3: why it's blackjack?

878
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: The best odds? Yeah, that of craps backrack? Do you

879
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 1: even know how to play background now? Any either one?

880
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: But perhaps I can't figure out.

881
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 2: I get to the table and some people help me,

882
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 2: and I'm like, all right, so roll So you want

883
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 2: me to roll this?

884
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 1: So you want me to play it? Here? A fine?

885
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 2: And I get and then I it's so long in

886
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 2: between when I play, I don't recall.

887
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 3: My problem with it is the table is surrounded with people,

888
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 3: and everybody's huddled around the craps table, and I just

889
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 3: want to be left alone, you know, buy a machine

890
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,760
Speaker 3: in the corner with my cigar where I'm not bothering anyone.

891
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: Is that why you video poker?

892
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 3: Yes, that's the only reason why video poker, because you

893
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 3: hooker has the best odds of any machine in a casino.

894
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 3: But as far as if you're actually going to gamble

895
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 3: to try to win something, it's it's not machines but.

896
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: You when you play video poker. Because I have sat

897
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 1: with you many times playing video poker now, and I

898
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: have seen you win, and I've seen you lose. You

899
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: have seen me win, you have seen me lose. Did

900
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 1: I or did I not get a royal flesh and

901
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,240
Speaker 1: jump off the chair, Ladies and gentlemen.

902
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 3: We were at a casino in Las Vegas, Haras in

903
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 3: their little cigar area, which is awesome. Yes, I hope

904
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 3: it's still there, and Tony sat down. Within a half

905
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 3: hour he has played next to if we were going

906
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 3: to compare how many hands of video poker I've played

907
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 3: versus how many hands of video poker you've played.

908
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 2: Right fingers Withoy has played ninety two million hands of

909
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 2: video poker, and I have said the term video poker

910
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 2: fourteen times.

911
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: I believe that that's the spread between us.

912
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 3: We were in Vegas for an hour and he sat

913
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 3: down and he got a royal flush and if correct

914
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 3: me if I'm wrong, but didn't you draw Your initial

915
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 3: draw was four cards to a royal And yeah, that

916
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 3: happens all the time, and you're like, watch this, and

917
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 3: then you hit the fifth card for the royal. He

918
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 3: sprung up out of his chair ran a lap around

919
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 3: the park.

920
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 1: First of all, I didn't run. I did walk with

921
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: my hands in my air. In the air, I said,

922
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: I didn't done. I did the thing. The idea that

923
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: you remember, see, this is how I know. So this

924
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 1: is your life. You remember what it was? I had?

925
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was either three or four cards to the

926
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 3: royal And you're like what ah, and I'm like yeah, yeah, yeah,

927
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 3: it happens all the time. And then he got the

928
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 3: he got the royal. And you know, I'm not one

929
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 3: of these people like some are that are upset when

930
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 3: they see someone next to them when a royal, when

931
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 3: it's a friend, especially when it's a it's like, Okay,

932
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 3: good for you, congrats did the whole lap or I

933
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:27,760
Speaker 3: couldn't help but chuckle.

934
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 1: It was funny.

935
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 3: It was like, my god, he's been here for a

936
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 3: half hour. He gets the biggest hand on a video

937
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 3: poker machine that you can possibly get. You won seven

938
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 3: what was it, one point two million dollars?

939
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 2: I believe I won two hundred dollars. I have no

940
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:41,919
Speaker 2: idea even how much it us.

941
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 1: I know how much.

942
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 3: If you want me to say, good, one thousand dollars

943
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 3: is that what I want? So what I went home with, Well, no,

944
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,879
Speaker 3: you were in Vegas. Huh, she'd have done this wrong.

945
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: Uh.

946
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:56,720
Speaker 2: But by the way, Uh, the Haras has this really

947
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 2: strange like when you walk through the hair through, right,

948
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 2: you've got casino on each side and it comes to

949
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 2: like a main hallway, and so these two areas converge

950
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 2: like fallopian tubes.

951
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: That's exactly how they it is.

952
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 2: It is, it's all sexual, and there's a there's this

953
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 2: this bar in the middle, and it's it's it's a

954
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 2: round bar, and they allow cigars smoking. Not every casine

955
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 2: allows cigars smoking, and very often his fingers nose, they

956
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 2: don't allow cigars at the bar.

957
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 1: It's weird to have a small sign. We talked about

958
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: this before.

959
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 2: It's it's basically the size of a postage stamp that

960
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:37,399
Speaker 2: says no cigar smoking. And yeah, yeah, cigarettes are fine.

961
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 2: I don't know what they have against cigars, but the

962
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 2: Haras just to name a place they allow this and

963
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 2: it is fantastic that you could sit and be and do.

964
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: And the weirdest part is that bar is never the

965
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: most crowded bar.

966
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 3: No, it's crazy, maybe because it's filled with cigar smoke.

967
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 2: So good such a good bartenders are great and everyone's

968
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 2: terrific there and loved it. But the threshold, what does

969
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 2: this mean to you that the threshold which was twelve

970
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:08,240
Speaker 2: hundred is now two.

971
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,879
Speaker 3: Thousand, So if you know, it doesn't really come into

972
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 3: play with what we were playing, because you bet a

973
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 3: dollar twenty five playing quarter poker, at the biggest hand

974
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 3: you can get is a royal flush, which would pay

975
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 3: you one thousand dollars. At that point, the machine just

976
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 3: gives you one thousand dollars if you cash out. But

977
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 3: for other games, if you're playing other you know, a

978
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 3: denomination fifty cent a hand, then your royal flush would

979
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 3: be two thousand dollars. So if you got a royal

980
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 3: flush playing fifty cent poker at a max bet, it

981
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 3: would be two thousand dollars. At that point, your machine

982
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 3: freezes up starts playing music for everyone around you to

983
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 3: know that you just hit a jackpot. Then casino personnel

984
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,919
Speaker 3: have to come out, give you a form to fill

985
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 3: out tax form. You got to present your ID, and

986
00:52:54,600 --> 00:53:00,320
Speaker 3: then that jackpot is recorded and reported to the IRSU

987
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 3: because it was, you know, two thousand dollars at the time,

988
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 3: higher than twelve hundred dollars. Well now, and I believe

989
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 3: that I don't have the information in front of me,

990
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 3: but I believe that twelve hundred dollars threshold was set

991
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 3: in the eighties. So I don't know if you know

992
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 3: this or not. But twelve hundred dollars in the nineteen

993
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:20,720
Speaker 3: eighties compared to twelve hundred dollars today, there's a big gap.

994
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 2: Right, So it's two thousand, it should have gone to

995
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 2: eighty two million, Yes, exactly.

996
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 3: So gamblers and especially Vegas casinos have been screaming for

997
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 3: years that this needs to be adjusted because it also

998
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 3: you don't have to have casino employees coming out as

999
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 3: much because you know, a two thousand dollars jackpot versus

1000
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 3: twelve hundred dollars, that's a big gap, and you won't

1001
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 3: have casino personnel having to come out as much to

1002
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 3: do all this paperwork. So this is a welcome change

1003
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 3: in the gaming industry as well as for people that

1004
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 3: go and gamble.

1005
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 2: I I look at but it hasn't changed the amount

1006
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 2: of people going to vague. Like when I go to Vegas,

1007
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 2: I'm going for food, I'm going for other things, right,

1008
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,399
Speaker 2: not not the gambling. The Vegas problem is still as

1009
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 2: you follow this stuff, the Vegas problem is still real, right.

1010
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Vegas problem is still real, and it's not

1011
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 3: due to this regulation.

1012
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 1: You know.

1013
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 3: It has everything to do with how Vegas casinos are

1014
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 3: now nickeling and diming the the middle class gambler and

1015
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 3: traveler to Vegas out between high resort fees, charging people

1016
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 3: for parking, wanting you get a cup of coffee and

1017
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 3: it's eleven dollars that kind of stuff, or at least

1018
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 3: before there felt like there was value in a Vegas

1019
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 3: vacation because maybe you would have a limited budget gambling.

1020
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 1: But if you, you know.

1021
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,240
Speaker 3: Use a player's club card at the end of your trip,

1022
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 3: you may find that you're not paying for your room.

1023
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 3: They've you know, given you several dinners and now it's

1024
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 3: to the point where a lot of that is gone.

1025
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're getting less, you're paying more, you're getting

1026
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: holy screwed, and you're angry about it. Yeah.

1027
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 3: And so people have said, forget it, I'm not cutting

1028
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 3: I'll just go to my local casino. Why should I

1029
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 3: travel here to be treated this way?

1030
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 2: The argument has been whether or not Vegas has really responded.

1031
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 2: Do you feel that they have not in a substantial

1032
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 2: way now, so they've got a long way to go

1033
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:26,439
Speaker 2: before the crowd's come back. Absolutely find everything we do

1034
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 2: wherever it is you find our podcast.

1035
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: Just look for the podcast Eat Drink, Smoke and subscribe

1036
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: Eat drink, smoke. It is your cigar and bourbon foody extravaganza.

1037
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz. That's Fingers, my boy. You wanna get

1038
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 2: the podcast. Wherever it is you get your podcasts, just

1039
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 2: look for eat, drink, smoke.

1040
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: What's the matter? I don't have water, you don't have

1041
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:51,280
Speaker 1: an ice cube.

1042
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 2: Honestly, we are just so lucky that we are so

1043
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 2: far over this cold.

1044
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: We're here.

1045
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 2: It's been brutal and from everything I'm hearing like flu

1046
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:06,240
Speaker 2: is going around left and right. People are in serious

1047
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 2: like it's the worst flu ever. It's always somehow the

1048
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 2: worst flu ever. But Fingers had a cold and yours

1049
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 2: has been like really chested and really congestion. I got

1050
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 2: a cold last week. I'm on really on the tail

1051
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 2: end mostly. I feel fine now. Last week we recorded,

1052
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 2: I was a mess, still not perfect. So we took

1053
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:28,240
Speaker 2: it very very easy with the Jefferson Notion Agency double

1054
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 2: Barrel Rye and we did this back in January. So

1055
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 2: we're ending the year the way we started the year,

1056
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 2: just something we knew would be just an absolute absolute pleasure.

1057
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 2: Turn eighty and one hundred dollars a bottle. Really, depending

1058
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 2: on where you're shopping and not really the high rye

1059
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 2: spice that you would expect from a rye. But there's

1060
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 2: a lot of lusciousness here. It is such excuse me,

1061
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 2: I'm going back in.

1062
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 3: Oh, look at you without a cube, but he's still

1063
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 3: because he's muscling through. He decided just to go for

1064
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 3: it and you're happy.

1065
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: And for the record, we're not changing the show. We're

1066
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 1: huge believers. And you try it with a cube, you

1067
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: try it with water, you try it neat, you find

1068
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: what works for you, because some bourbons it might not

1069
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: work for you neat, but it's great on a cube,

1070
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 1: it's great.

1071
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 2: A little bit of water. No, you don't want to

1072
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 2: do those things. You got to try it in all

1073
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:18,919
Speaker 2: the ways in order to find out what's the best

1074
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 2: expression of what it is the distiller created. We admit

1075
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 2: it's Christmas week and we hope everybody had a fantastic

1076
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 2: Christmas because of just how the year ended, which I

1077
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 2: would admit to you fingers. We've been doing the show

1078
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 2: for six years. I have never had a more busy, tumultuous,

1079
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 2: weird ending to a year. And I said this earlier.

1080
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: I don't usually end years like well, I'm glad that's over,

1081
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: because it's not. You know, tomorrow will come.

1082
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 2: Tomorrow is another day, and the new year is gonna come,

1083
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 2: and there's gonna be other.

1084
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: Things that go on. So I never usually think that way.

1085
00:57:55,320 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: It has just been a lot all at one. It's

1086
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: almost overwhelming in a way.

1087
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 2: And I don't, I admit to you, I'm not a

1088
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 2: guy who feels that way really at all. But I'm

1089
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,439
Speaker 2: I just like the last couple of weeks of kind

1090
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 2: of taking it a little bit easy.

1091
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm very very good with that.

1092
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,479
Speaker 3: I can't wait for twenty twenty six. I'm just hoping

1093
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 3: midway through twenty twenty six. I'm not going to miss

1094
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five. Ah, everything has to get better, right

1095
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 3: what one would assume?

1096
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 1: You know what?

1097
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 3: That's what keeps bringing people back to eat Drink smoke

1098
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 3: and being a part of Eat, Drink Smoke Nation. It's

1099
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 3: because we're always glasses half full kind of guys.

1100
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 1: But we are. Oh are you wait? I am?

1101
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 3: I was waiting for you to realize what you were saying. Yeah,

1102
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 3: I realize the mistake quickly. I'm a rather optimistic cat.

1103
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 2: I'm very much a believer that it's all going to

1104
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 2: be like things can be good and and just you

1105
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 2: can work through it and and don't get caught up

1106
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 2: in the madness same disease. Oh, it's funny because it's

1107
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 2: not true. So no, we didn't do the cube this week.

1108
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 2: But I can't recommend it enough. It really is an

1109
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 2: absolutely wonderful presentation. Now, if you're somebody who wants the

1110
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 2: high Rise spice, I could get that this.

1111
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 1: Is not yours.

1112
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 2: That's that's absolutely true, But as something that's in the

1113
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 2: liquor cabinet, I'm a yes. I think it's just a

1114
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 2: terrific presentation. And we're smoking from Espinoza Cigars. They're not

1115
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 2: gonna sandwich off menu. What are you gonna say?

1116
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 1: Fingers for me?

1117
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 3: This is a nice holiday rye because of the sweetness.

1118
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 3: If you want a little bit of rye spice but

1119
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 3: you're not fully let's say you're rye curious, this is nice.

1120
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 3: And while I said earlier eighty to one hundred dollars

1121
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 3: is really steep for me, I highly recommend if you

1122
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 3: see this at your favorite lounge, kit yourself poor.

1123
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think it should be in your liquor cabinet.

1124
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 2: The cigar is from Espinos it's a knuckle sandwich off menu.

1125
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 2: It's what they make for the THAA to Tobacconist Association

1126
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 2: of America.

1127
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 1: So if you can find it, you grab it.

1128
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 2: Thirteen dollars and fifty cents a stick, six by a

1129
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 2: fifty four box, press your right fingers. The flavor has

1130
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 2: not changed throughout this cigar. I think maybe there's a

1131
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 2: little bit build up of spices. I'm in the final

1132
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 2: third of the stick, so it's smoking a little faster

1133
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 2: than I thought it would. It is smoky, which is

1134
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 2: really interesting for a cigar. It's got you know you

1135
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 2: we had talked about bonfire, You talked about wet leaves

1136
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 2: and things like that, and you're like, wait, wait, that

1137
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense. Smoke it. Compared to all the

1138
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 2: other knuckle sandwiches, this is a far more to me

1139
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 2: flavorful stick. This is absolutely a full bodied stick. And

1140
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 2: at the first it was really hit me for a loop.

1141
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 2: I'm better now, I'm fine. Now it's reverse for me.

1142
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 2: I would have argued at the beginning, this is I

1143
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 2: bet this is. This is feeling like.

1144
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 3: More medium and boy, now that I'm getting into the

1145
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 3: final third, it is starting to hit me.

1146
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 2: That Pennsylvania broadleaf, Nicaragua and the binder and filler. I

1147
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 2: like Pennsylvania Broadleaf. It's big, but it is, it's smoky,

1148
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 2: it's it's very unique in that regard of all the

1149
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 2: knuckle sandwiches which are Espinoza with Guy Fierti, this to

1150
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 2: me is the most flavorful one.

1151
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 1: This is a lot of cool happening here.

1152
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 2: There would be a couple in the humidor because every

1153
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 2: now and are gonna be like, let me go back

1154
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 2: to that as a matter of where my natural flavor

1155
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 2: profile is. No, as a matter of unique, yes, like

1156
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 2: trying this, Like okay, they really did get something here

1157
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 2: that isn't of the every day And I go back

1158
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 2: to that smoky, almost ashy make you think of Scott

1159
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 2: in that regard interesting interesting smoke. At thirteen dollars and

1160
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 2: fifty cents a stake, I think it so sixteen dollars

1161
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 2: a stick?

1162
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 1: Am I getting it wrong? Was it sixteen?

1163
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 3: I'll double check myself because it was for me in

1164
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 3: my humid door. It's sixteen dollars.

1165
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 1: Six I don't know why I said thirteen fifty.

1166
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 3: I apologize. It's sixteen dollars a stick. Yeah, it's still

1167
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 3: in my humid door. I have enjoyed it it. We

1168
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 3: haven't had too much of a problem with the maintaining it.

1169
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 3: It's well constructed, and yeah, it is a full bodied cigar.

1170
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 3: I wouldn't make this an everyday smoke for me. I

1171
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 3: couldn't do this every now, but yeah, I would have

1172
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 3: one or two of these in my humid door.

1173
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 1: Fingers will. It's time for news of the week.

1174
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 3: So it was just announced a week ago that Danny's

1175
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 3: has decided they're going to shut down one hundred and

1176
01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 3: fifty locations by years and they apparently have just gone

1177
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 3: private or they're going to go private. A couple of

1178
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 3: private equity groups have have purchased it and part of

1179
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 3: this restructuring reorganization of Denny's, one hundred and fifty stores

1180
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 3: are going by the wayside. Now wow, you know, to me,

1181
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 3: I went to a Denny's about a month ago with

1182
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 3: my father. It was the first time he had been

1183
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 3: in Denny's and ever uh, and it struck me because

1184
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 3: I thought to myself, well, first of all, you know,

1185
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 3: you still get the a nice variety of breakfast foods

1186
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 3: at Denny's. I did kind of feel like I paid

1187
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 3: a lot more than I was used to paying out

1188
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 3: of Denny's. And of course everything has gone up. It

1189
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 3: makes me wonder if maybe, and this is just anecdotal,

1190
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 3: Denny's lost its way a little bit where you thought

1191
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 3: you thought.

1192
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 2: Denny I think as a brand, it's just it's it's

1193
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 2: not exciting, it's not interesting, it's not where people think of.

1194
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 1: It's just but it was budget. It's old.

1195
01:03:57,880 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 3: Well it could be that too, it's dated. But you

1196
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 3: always thought Denny's was like a place for a budget breakfast.

1197
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 3: And if they've kind of gone away from that a

1198
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 3: little bit, maybe people.

1199
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 2: Say everybody's gone away from that. Sure, I mean, what's

1200
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 2: budget now? What when egg prices were up? Everything went

1201
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,479
Speaker 2: up and prices have not come down.

1202
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 3: So it's been a while since I've been to an

1203
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 3: ie Hop, but I kind of felt like I Hop

1204
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 3: and Denny's were kind of that, you know, chain, budget,

1205
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 3: sit down restaurant that you can go to. And things

1206
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 3: have changed, and you know some of these places of struggle,

1207
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 3: and clearly Denny's as now they've gone private and now

1208
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 3: they're continuing to scale back and shut down locations.

1209
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 2: So the question before them is is there a way

1210
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 2: to rethink this or rebuild this, or is it brand

1211
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 2: or is it consumer preference. I'm not gonna go out

1212
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 2: to the place where I now also have to leave

1213
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 2: the tip to get a subpar service in a subpar breakfast.

1214
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Denny's is subpar.

1215
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 2: I'm saying that compared to other places and other dollars

1216
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 2: is not how people view it.

1217
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 1: You tell me you were there about Joe. Was it solid?

1218
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 3: It was solid? I was just spent more than I

1219
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 3: thought I was going to. But where does that not happen?

1220
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 1: That what it is, which is exactly the point. There

1221
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 1: are two stories to end this year that are just

1222
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 1: the most perfect stories to end the year.

1223
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 2: One involves Costco and one involves your cat.

1224
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 1: Wait, my cat? Your cat, it's dead. That's what makes

1225
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 1: the story so weird.

1226
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 2: See Drink Smell coum, Tony Kats You joked about a

1227
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 2: dead cat. That right there is America's favorite amateur drinker,

1228
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 2: Fingers molloy.

1229
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 1: It doesn't mind.

1230
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 2: We do seem to cover a fair amount of Costco stories,

1231
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 2: mostly because Fingers maloy is still pining for the return

1232
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 2: of the onion gun.

1233
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 1: Bring it back. What do you win for it's twenty

1234
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 1: twenty six. We can put a man on the moon.

1235
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 1: Allegedly we can. That made me feel good. Oh holy,

1236
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 1: I had kept a straight face. We deserve our onion

1237
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 1: gun back. Uh some Uh. It's very possible that Costco

1238
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 1: is going to get a new look.

1239
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 2: You're going to see possibly redesigns of stores pre scan technology.

1240
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 3: That needs to happen. Really, Oh my goodness. Did you

1241
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 3: go to Bjy's warehouse? No, No, we had a we

1242
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 3: had a falling out again. Well what am I supposed

1243
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 3: to do?

1244
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 1: You know?

1245
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 2: I believe if I want to try and clothes, so

1246
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 2: I should be able to try in my undergarments right

1247
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 2: there in the.

1248
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 1: Aisle, but not in the deli section. Well that's where

1249
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 1: the meat is.

1250
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:57,440
Speaker 3: But you go to BJ's And what I like about

1251
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 3: BJS is you can scan the eye items as you shop,

1252
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 3: pay for everything on your phone, and just walk out.

1253
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 1: You don't have to deal with cashiers your hatred of

1254
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 1: human interaction, not just that, it's not just that, Okay, no.

1255
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 3: It's you don't have to wait in line, just walk out.

1256
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 3: It's wonderful. And you know, for for those of you

1257
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 3: that don't mind having your credit card information on your phone.

1258
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 3: You can you can pay for it on your phone

1259
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 3: and leap by the way. My uh, well, I don't

1260
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 3: want to get into it. Oh someone got a hold

1261
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 3: of my my debit card and charge one thousand dollars

1262
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 3: at Home Depot in New York.

1263
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 1: And when I find you, I'm not going to find you. Really,

1264
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 1: someone got a hold from the dark web? Did that? Yes?

1265
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 1: They did?

1266
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 3: How did your bank handle it? They notified me. I

1267
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 3: hadn't even noticed it by this and it never made

1268
01:07:55,840 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 3: it to where I track all of my trans actions,

1269
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 3: never even made it to the app. They me, and

1270
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 3: they went to Home Depot and Taco Bell. Oh yeah,

1271
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 3: apparently the bank stopped them both, although somebody may have

1272
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 3: gotten away with a crunchy rap supreme.

1273
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 1: Oh so so. So the question is were they able

1274
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 1: to get the goods so Home Depot is out of

1275
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 1: the goods or were they not able to did it

1276
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 1: not go through it?

1277
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 3: I don't know if you don't get it was almost

1278
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 3: a thousand dollars transaction and apparently it got flagged. So

1279
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 3: either they got the stuff and ran out the door

1280
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 3: and Home Depots out of thousand dollars worth of merchandise,

1281
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 3: or it got flagged right away and the transaction didn't

1282
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 3: go through.

1283
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 1: My take at least, I hope for their sake. I

1284
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 1: don't know about the crunchy. It always thinks when that happens.

1285
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 1: I've had it happen. It's just it's just a gigantic pain. Uh.

1286
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 2: Costco is going to build out their digital strategy, strategy

1287
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 2: they want, I guess they want this more online thing

1288
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 2: happening UH as well.

1289
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 1: And employees are gonna get a raise. Well, that's good.

1290
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 2: The lowest paid clerk across US Costco stores will soon

1291
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 2: make twenty one dollars an hour and the highest paid

1292
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 2: we'll get thirty two an hour. Did you know when

1293
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 2: they work weekends they get time and a half.

1294
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:20,639
Speaker 1: That's great.

1295
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Speaker 3: But I can't help but notice that there's a possibility

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Speaker 3: that you're going to be able to scan your own

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Speaker 3: items and not have to deal with the cash here.

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Speaker 1: So you mean they're gonna have less employees? Is that

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Speaker 1: what's happening? Eh? Eh? Just doing the math? Is that

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01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 1: how you just played a KOI right there. I'm just

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Speaker 1: saying it's.

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Speaker 3: Just an odd thing that they are going to give

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01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 3: a nice raise to cashiers but also let customers possibly

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01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 3: scan their own items and not deal with the cash here.

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Speaker 1: The other one is that the food court where you

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01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 1: get the dollar fifty hot dog and it used to

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Speaker 1: be a Pepsi.

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Speaker 2: Did they switched to coke? They go back to coke

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Speaker 2: according to this story. I think we discussed this. I'm

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01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 2: forgetting right now.

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Speaker 1: They moved back to Coca Cola from the Pepsi.

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Speaker 2: You will now have to scan your membership card in

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Speaker 2: order to get the hot dog. No, just sneaking in

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01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 2: you non cost Co net members and getting a buck

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Speaker 2: fifty weenie.

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Speaker 1: And I say, finally, right right. I don't like people,

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Speaker 1: you know, like crossing into cost co illegally and trying

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01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 1: to take advantage of all our benefits. What wow? No,

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Speaker 1: but serious?

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01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 3: Why should the Costco food court be busier filled with

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01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:44,679
Speaker 3: people that didn't pay for the membership to begin right?

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Speaker 1: And all those people who paid for the membership they

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01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 1: have to wait online. They might even get their hot dog,

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01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 1: and they'll be like, they'll be out of hot dog.

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Speaker 1: They won't They paid for the for the for the opportunity.

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Speaker 2: They won't even get the chance because somebody else snuck

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01:10:57,200 --> 01:10:59,479
Speaker 2: in and took their opportunities from them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and what was their solution to this problem banning

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01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:04,679
Speaker 3: the onion gun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you see that they didn't fix the problem. They

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01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 2: didn't fix the problem. They're not protecting their border.

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Speaker 1: Wow, look at look at it right now. Half each

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01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 1: shrink smoked nation is like I see what you did there,

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01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:24,600
Speaker 1: and the other half is like, yeah, I want my

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01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:26,599
Speaker 1: buck fifty hot dog. I don't want people in the way,

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01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 1: like like it'll come slower slower to them. I have

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01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 1: to say something.

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Speaker 3: You couldn't have stopped me earlier. No, no, no, I

1339
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:43,640
Speaker 3: was enjoying the whole thing. But I must say the

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Speaker 3: image in this piece, which is not at all different

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Speaker 3: from images at every Costco of the food court where

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01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 3: they have the menu and the dollar fifty hot dog. Yes,

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01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 3: it's loaded with onion gun onions. It is, and it's

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01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 3: next to a Coca Cola, which is interesting. So they

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01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 3: were able to update the beverage to Coca Cola, but

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01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 3: yet did not update the fact that that hot dog

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01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 3: is loaded with onion onions.

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Speaker 2: But you can get the onions. They'll just give you

1349
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 2: a little cup of onions. But you know what, why

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01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 2: are you eating buck fifty hot dogs? I mean, don't

1351
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Speaker 2: get me wrong when you could be eating the finest

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Speaker 2: Steak, the strip steaks, the brisket, all there, individually frozen,

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Speaker 2: cut to your specifications and ready for you from the

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Speaker 2: get one hundred and fifty dollars off your order immediately

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Speaker 2: you pick quartercow, half cow, full cow. They'll then call

1361
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Speaker 2: you after its age for twenty one days and say, okay,

1362
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Speaker 2: how are we cutting this for you? You tell them

1363
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Speaker 2: go back everything and shipped right to you. I should say,

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Speaker 2: Now fingers the other story about your cat. There's a

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Speaker 2: story out of Michigan. Of course, at a Michigan. What's up,

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01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:24,839
Speaker 2: Superstation Detroit?

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Speaker 1: How you doing?

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01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:30,680
Speaker 2: Woman says Amazon driver stole her cat while delivering packages.

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01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, now the story's out a Michigan, but this

1374
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 2: really happens in Los Angeles. She shared footage from a

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01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 2: ring camera showing the driver walking up, dropping off a package,

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01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:48,680
Speaker 2: petting her cat, then shows the driver carrying the cat away.

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Speaker 1: Amazon has not commented on the matter.

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01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:58,639
Speaker 3: Why would anyone in this day and age think that

1379
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 3: there isn't a camera on the front porch watching everything

1380
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 3: you do? Why would anybody want a cat? Well, cats

1381
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 3: are expensive. It's not like you can get them for free, Tony.

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01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 1: It turns out you can. Turns out they're just walking around.

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01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 1: You just put a collar on one called Fluffy. But

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Speaker 1: I just don't know why you would want one. I

1385
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:20,599
Speaker 1: don't know, but I do know this.

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01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:25,679
Speaker 3: Apparently you can get a cable Ace Award certificate on eBay.

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01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:27,800
Speaker 1: For those of you who are listening earlier to the show,

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Speaker 1: Oh you get one. You make that happen?

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01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:33,880
Speaker 2: Guys, We hope you had a magnificent, enjoyous at Christmas.

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01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 2: We decided to pull out a classic Jefferson's ocean, the

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Speaker 2: Double Bower Rye aged at ce Voyage twenty six.

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01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 1: Just spectacular. Eighty to one hundred dollars a bottle and the.

1393
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 2: Cigar, the off menu from Knuckle, Sandwich from Espinoza sixteen

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Speaker 2: dollars a stick.

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01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 1: It's worth a try, it is. This is a nicely

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01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 1: done piece.

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01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 2: Just not sure about the every day hope you had

1398
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:55,680
Speaker 2: to Merry Christmas. We'll talk more.

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Speaker 1: Keep it here. It's eat, rink, smoke,