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Speaker 1: Live from val Heartland and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. Although there are a.

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Speaker 2: Number of people who want to argue with me on

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Speaker 2: United States. We all saw and we all heard this

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Speaker 2: video from people like Senator Mark Kelly, Senator Lissi Slutkin

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Speaker 2: of Michigan, and a host of others.

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Speaker 1: Speak directly to members of the military.

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Speaker 3: And the intelligence community who take risks each day keep

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Speaker 1: We know you are under enormous stress and pressure right now.

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Speaker 2: Americans trust their military, with that trust as at risk.

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Speaker 1: This administration is pitting our uniform military and intelligence community

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Speaker 1: professionals against American citizens like us. You all swore an

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Speaker 2: Right now, the threats to our constitution aren't just coming

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Speaker 2: from a road from right here at home.

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Speaker 1: Our laws are clear. You can refuse illegal orders. You

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Speaker 2: How else could that possibly be seen other than the

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Speaker 2: Democrats there and the Democratic Party writ large saying that

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump is giving illegal orders and you should refuse them.

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with you.

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Speaker 2: Kurt Schlichter joins me right now, town Hall columnist. He

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Speaker 2: is the author of the Kelly Turnbull series of books

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Speaker 2: available at Amazon dot com, the latest Panama read coming

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five, and of course, a retired United

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Speaker 2: States Army a full colonel, and Kurt, I come to

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Speaker 2: you often on some of these military things, but usually

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Speaker 2: I have never bought into that argument. I don't need

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Speaker 2: to be aware to discuss abortion or anything else. How

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Speaker 2: else to take this as a usurpation of saying, hey,

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Speaker 4: You know, it's this in twose uh thing where they

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Speaker 3: Citing any actual illegal orders. You know, what they want

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Speaker 3: as an institution, which they have when President and plant

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Speaker 3: was turning into a social Peatrie dish of defeat and perversions. Thankfully,

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Speaker 3: to so we're not we're not encouraging not co violate law.

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Speaker 3: We just said, don't don't do illegal orders.

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Speaker 1: You know stop all right?

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Speaker 3: That that name work on the idiots who vote for Democrats,

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Speaker 3: But everybody else sees exactly what they're doing, which is

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Speaker 3: President Trump's policies. You got if you think there's an

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Speaker 3: illegal order named the Illegal Order. But I gotta tell you,

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Speaker 1: So let's break down a little bit of this first.

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Speaker 2: Let's get into those levels of specifics, and then let's

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Speaker 2: get into what the clear uh implication here is, Well,

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Speaker 1: Let's get to that part too.

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Speaker 2: This has been a unique question, Kurt, where you're also

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Speaker 3: How would that happen to the guy on the front lines. Well,

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Speaker 2: Well, let's now get into that vid too. Right here,

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Speaker 2: talking to Kurt Schlickter of town Hall dot com. His

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Speaker 2: Check out all the Kelly Turnbull books, all of Kurt's books,

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Speaker 2: clear and obvious from this video is to tie the

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Speaker 1: For Avala Hans.

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Speaker 3: She just does your thing and does her job for constituents.

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Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz today. I am very happy to

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Speaker 2: Governor Greg Gabbott in Texas designating both the Council and

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Speaker 2: a look at what's happening through their Medicaid Housing Stabilization

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Speaker 1: How it's been spending more and more money year after year.

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Speaker 2: In twenty twenty one it paid out twenty one million

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Speaker 2: And that's what I like about what it is that

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Speaker 2: the conversation has to happen yesterday. Find everything at Tony

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Speaker 2: Right, Kamala Harris is exactly why you should nominate a

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Speaker 1: Who drinks chardonnay? All day, right, just to that crowd. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Also, I hate my husband so incredibly much, Like it's

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Speaker 2: And if this is actually one of the arguments I

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Speaker 2: Don't send your kids to school where they are gonna

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Speaker 1: That is very, very, very true. Which is what happens

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Speaker 2: And I'm not discussing disagreements on policy. We might have

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Speaker 1: That's a hate. I have no way of connecting to.

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Speaker 2: absolutely there. I can't connect. I can't connect with those people.

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Speaker 2: I have no capacity to connect with those people. I

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Speaker 2: would love to be able to play a part in

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Speaker 2: their lives. I would love to be able to make

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Speaker 2: a difference in their lives. Now, maybe there's some hope

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Speaker 2: for the Democratic Party because here is Nazi tattoo on

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Speaker 2: the chess guy Graham Platner, a Democrat running for Senate

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Speaker 2: in Maine, saying men shouldn't.

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Speaker 1: Be in women's sports. Oh, no, eight, No, eight. He

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Speaker 1: is saying that men should be in women's sports. That's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a state question. It's a stat question.

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Speaker 6: But I'm running for federal offices.

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Speaker 3: But you don't have an opinion on whether what you

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Speaker 3: think with a transgender girl should play high school sports

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Speaker 3: or whether they should be banned.

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Speaker 1: I don't think.

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Speaker 6: I do not think they should be banned. Okay, I

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Speaker 6: think banning people from playing in sports in the gender

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Speaker 6: that they see themselves as and identify as doing that

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Speaker 6: in a wholesale way is going to be restricted of

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Speaker 6: people's race, and.

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Speaker 1: There it is. I can't help that guy, and I

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Speaker 1: can't help anybody who would possibly vote for him.

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Speaker 2: Boys should play in girls sports, men should play in

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Speaker 2: women's sports. I can't do anything for that guy. I

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Speaker 2: can't also stop him from sounding like the jolly green giant.

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Speaker 2: He's just got that low, deep baratone. So it's sometimes

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Speaker 2: hard to hear on radio, Jasmine Crockett makes the audio dump.

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Speaker 2: I know no Jasmine Crockett masterpiece theater today, just some

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Speaker 2: standard good old everybody I don't like is a racist talk?

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Speaker 1: Don do they not even go?

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Speaker 7: Honestly, they are about to outlaw the idea of white

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Speaker 7: supremacy and white hate. Like they are about to be like, oh,

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Speaker 7: that's not a thing. Forget the fact that you're talking

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Speaker 7: about getting rid of like the classification for nooses in

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Speaker 7: a time in which we have seen these random black

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Speaker 7: bodies be strung up down South, also seemingly at a

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Speaker 7: time in which you're back in office. Because what you

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Speaker 7: do is you embolden the hate. You embolden everybody to

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Speaker 7: take off their hoods. That is what he has done.

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Speaker 7: He is the one that is producing this violence.

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Speaker 2: Listen, what random black bodies are being strung up down South?

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Speaker 1: Don't ask? Don't ask?

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Speaker 2: Do you understand the Jasmin Crockett isn't bright and she's

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Speaker 2: flat out line because she wants to jet up rachel hate.

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Speaker 2: That's the way she gets votes. But what is she

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Speaker 2: talking about. She's talking about the story from the Washington Post.

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Speaker 2: And the Washington Post story was the US Coast Guard

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Speaker 2: will no longer classify the swastika, NEWSS and the Confederate

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Speaker 2: flag as hates him. The military service drafted a new

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Speaker 2: policy that classifies them as potentially divisive, to which people

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Speaker 2: in de Penaon are like, what the hell is wrong

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Speaker 2: with you? That leads to a statement from the Coast Guard.

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Speaker 2: The claims that the US Coast Guard will no longer

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Speaker 2: classify Swastika's NEWSS or other extremist imagery as prohibited symbols

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Speaker 2: are categorically false. These symbols have been and remain prohibited

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Speaker 2: in the Coast Guard per policy. Any display used for

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Speaker 2: promotion of such symbols, as always, will be thoroughly investigated

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Speaker 2: and severely punished. The Coast Guard remains unwavering in its

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Speaker 2: commitment to fostering a safe, respectful, and professional workplace. Symbols

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Speaker 2: such as swastikas NEWSS and other extremists or racist imagery

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Speaker 2: violate our core values and are treated with the seriousness

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Speaker 2: they warrant under current policy. That's from Admiral Kevin Lunday,

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Speaker 2: He's the acting Commandant to the.

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Speaker 1: US Coast Guard. What are you people talking about? What

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Speaker 1: exactly is wrong with you?

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Speaker 2: And the answers, well, everything, But for Jasmine Crockett, this

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Speaker 2: is the standard run of the mill. I'm black, and

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Speaker 2: therefore I get to say anything I want and call

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Speaker 2: everybody I don't like a racist and there's nothing you

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Speaker 2: can do about it, because if you say something about it,

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Speaker 2: well then I get to call you a racist for

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Speaker 2: noticing what I'm saying. Because I'm a black woman. You're

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Speaker 2: not allowed to say that. Of course I can. You're

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Speaker 2: a bigot, Jasmine Crockett, this is ridiculous nonsense.

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Speaker 1: What black bodies are you? What a thing to say?

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Speaker 2: Just so you make sure you heard that random black

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Speaker 2: bodies be strung up down south?

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Speaker 1: I think it's the exact quote that I have here.

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Speaker 1: What kind of thing is this? What kind of madness

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Speaker 1: is this? Also? Where is this happening? So we can

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Speaker 1: find who is doing this and throw them in jail

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Speaker 1: or worse.

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Speaker 2: You would think this would make the front pages of

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Speaker 2: CNN somehow, this would pr on MSNBC, maybe instead of

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Speaker 2: the Emstein Files. We'll be talking about this as well,

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Speaker 2: maybe a little bit, maybe something.

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Speaker 1: But this isn't happening. She just made it up.

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Speaker 2: And of course when she makes her videos, she goes

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Speaker 2: into that what they call code switching and the affectations.

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Speaker 1: You go back to her life prior Congress, and she.

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Speaker 2: Spoke one way and now she speaks another way, and

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Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, we get it. You're trying to prove

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Speaker 2: yourself somehow and in some way it's just it's just

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Speaker 2: flat out horrifying. And then of course, well it's California,

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Speaker 2: so anybody can run for governor.

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Speaker 8: Been in these fights as a city council member up

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Speaker 8: in Dublin, my hometown, as a prosecutor in Oakland, and

535
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Speaker 8: taking on the most corrupt president ever in the US Congress.

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Speaker 8: But I'm ready to bring this fight home. So I

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Speaker 8: came here to night, Jimmy to tell you in your

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Speaker 8: audience that I'm running to be the next governor of California.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to do it.

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Speaker 2: You don't standing ovation from the Jimmy Kimmel crowd for

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Speaker 2: the guy who never had sex with a Chinese spy

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Speaker 2: named Fang Fang.

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Speaker 1: Oh that is that's my take. If you didn't know that,

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Speaker 1: you know the show.

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Speaker 2: The story is there was this Chinese spy, her name

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Speaker 2: is Fang Fang, and the you know what kind of

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Speaker 2: pillow talk and what was happening with him and the

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Speaker 2: spy and the connections and everything else. I argue, there's

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Speaker 2: no way he had sex with the Chinese spy. There's

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Speaker 2: no way he was able to get that done. No, no, no,

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Speaker 2: he just wasn't up for it. Oh, I said it.

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Speaker 2: I meant it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not apologizing for anything. Not man enough, no way, nohow,

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Speaker 1: never ever, ever happened.

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Speaker 2: He's running for governor of California. Man, you would think

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Speaker 2: for a moment that people would.

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Speaker 1: Listen to him and say, what is.

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Speaker 2: He actually accomplished other than the Trump hate? And the

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Speaker 2: answer is, what else do you actually need?

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Speaker 1: Tony? Trump hate is enough? Trump hate is everything.

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Speaker 2: Trump hate wins the day time and time and time

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Speaker 2: and time again. You don't need anything else. You don't

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Speaker 2: need to actually have a record. You don't need to

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Speaker 2: have legislation that you can point to. Well, I was

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Speaker 2: in favor of Trump's impeachment. WELLM sauld let's vote for him.

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Speaker 1: I have never been more happy, more.

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Speaker 2: Thrilled, more overjoyed that I moved out of California, that

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Speaker 2: I left.

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Speaker 1: Uh, it was absolutely the right. Mean, no, don't get

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Speaker 1: me wrong. It's because I got the job.

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Speaker 2: People move for jobs all the time. I got the

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Speaker 2: job here in Indianapolis. I took the job here in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 2: I moved my family to Indianapolis sight unseen, not leting

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Speaker 2: people know that I moved up my family. They had

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Speaker 2: never been here before. And I was like, hey, missus Kats,

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Speaker 2: see this house you live here, now, have a nice day,

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Speaker 2: And she of course swooned, because that's how I tell

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Speaker 2: the story. But more importantly, it's worked out very, very

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Speaker 2: well for me, and being out of California has worked

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Speaker 2: out great for me. I loved my time in California.

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Speaker 2: I love mountains more than oxygen. I adored my time.

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Speaker 2: I had friends in California and one of my dearest

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Speaker 2: friends in the world business partners still to this day,

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Speaker 2: and love the place. But I've never been more happy

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Speaker 2: that I'm gone, and I ain't going back, and I

586
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Speaker 2: wouldn't dream of going back. In Eric Swallwell's California, good gosh,

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Speaker 2: keep it here. This is Tony Kats today. I really

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Speaker 2: don't know how this Ukraine deal is gonna fly. I'm

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Speaker 2: staring at it, I'm looking at what's been leaked here.

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Speaker 1: And I just.

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Speaker 2: Don't know how anybody's gonna go for this, Tony Katz,

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz today. Zelenski's argument is this plan forces Ukraine

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Speaker 2: to choose between dignity and the United States. The plan

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Speaker 2: says that Ukraine gives up the Dunbass completely, and that's

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Speaker 2: an issue now.

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Speaker 1: I will tell you that.

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Speaker 2: His plan, the Trump Plan, says you get NATO style

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Speaker 2: security guarantees. A twenty eight point plan that was presented

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Speaker 2: to Vladimir Zelenski. They give up the Dunbask, they give

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Speaker 2: up the Donetsk and Lahansk, and they give up parts

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Speaker 2: of of Portia. Russia will get more land than they

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Speaker 2: currently occupy right now. So this is a huge, huge

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Speaker 2: change from where they were. This started with you know,

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Speaker 2: Ukraine's gonna give up land, and then it went too well.

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Speaker 1: If if Russia isn't gonna play ball, you know what,

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Speaker 1: maybe Ukraine will get on the land back. And now

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Speaker 1: Ukraine's gonna give up land.

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Speaker 2: It's Steve Whitkoff who has taken the lead here and

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Speaker 2: you and what Zelenski.

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Speaker 1: Is saying is this is insane.

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Speaker 2: How in the world do we do this? How possibly

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Speaker 2: can we be a part of this? The pressure in

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Speaker 2: Ukraine is now among the heaviest. Ukraine may now face

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Speaker 2: a very difficult choice, the loss of dignity or the

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Speaker 2: risk of losing a key partner. Zelensky warning that Ukraine

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Speaker 2: face is an extremely harsh winter if he doesn't go

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Speaker 2: with Trump's offer.

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Speaker 1: You want to talk about not having the cards, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious to see how NATO responds. Find everything at

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Speaker 2: Tony kats dot com. Monday one takeout