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Speaker 1: Kenvill Casey Show'm Rob, that's Casey spending a lot of

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Speaker 1: our show today talk about Charlie Kirk. I was driving

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Speaker 2: And it's like one of those things where you look

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Speaker 1: I thought, you know, who knows what he meant to

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Speaker 1: It's like that can't even be true. This has to

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Speaker 2: Because I'm sitting.

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Speaker 1: Here and in my mind, I'm I'm like processing while

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Speaker 1: I'm seeing this, Why would somebody shoot this guy? He

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Speaker 2: At me on Facebook.

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Speaker 1: Again, it's a day that ends and why about what

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Speaker 1: I always say say the same thing.

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Speaker 2: Great, turn off.

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Speaker 3: The radio, stop consuming, put me on mute, and I

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Speaker 2: Well, we all know you won't do that.

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Speaker 1: And so like I'm thinking of this as I'm driving, Like,

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Speaker 1: why would somebody shoot a guy who doesn't have any

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Speaker 1: like the obviously never okay to shoot anyone, but the

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Speaker 2: With all the power.

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Speaker 1: This guy just merely existed, and in order to know

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I I received the news from Jim. He texted me,

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Speaker 2: Jim is your husband?

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Speaker 3: My husband, because normally I'm the one who knows what's

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Speaker 4: When you see that video being.

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Speaker 3: Played over and over and it's all over your feed

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Speaker 1: Well, you hit you hit on an interesting point, which

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Speaker 1: is like, think about previous high profile assassinations, right, the

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Speaker 4: There's one angle.

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Speaker 3: And with this assassination of Charlie Kirk, there were cell

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Speaker 1: I did think about that. That's so good that you

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Speaker 1: We lose track of or the public loses track of the.

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Speaker 2: And he was a father, he was a husband.

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Speaker 1: I guarantee if he asked him about it to list

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Speaker 2: But we have now escalated the.

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Speaker 3: There's been a lot of comparisons to Martin Luther King

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Speaker 3: That I was crying last night as many people were,

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Speaker 1: Don't you think part of that's though, because it hits

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Speaker 2: No, And I don't think you're doing that.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm saying that for people like us, this

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Speaker 2: And we talked about this the other day.

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Speaker 1: And I hope I live a very long, prosperous life

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Speaker 5: That it's an interesting question. Grew up in the subers

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Speaker 5: But I've visited my Fairshriff colleges over one hundred and

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Speaker 5: And yeah, I'm just a small part of it. It's

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Speaker 1: But I mean it's pretty cool to be you, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: You speak, and there's hundreds of thousands or thousands of

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Speaker 2: That's a pretty cool existence.

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Speaker 5: And you know, I remember the years where I remember

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Speaker 5: Yes, it's been a journey and I don't deserve it,

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Speaker 1: People are hearing your voice right now in WIBC is

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Speaker 5: So we talked a little bit about this with Mike.

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Speaker 5: kirks Show and to keep fighting everybody. Great radio station,

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk of Turning Point, USA, Thank you, my friend,

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Speaker 1: keep up the good work.

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Speaker 5: Thanks God blessed tuck to you soon.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's try to figure out where to cut that.

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Speaker 1: All right, So you guys had an excellent, excellent piece

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I've seen in the past the Ethics Commission can

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Speaker 2: Nika Kelly from the Indiana Capitol chronicles our guest.

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Speaker 3: At what point do you think the consumer will see

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Speaker 3: any adjustment if there isn't any, Well.

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Speaker 6: We're pretty far away. I think the final hearing is

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Speaker 6: November so and then they have to take a vote, So,

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Speaker 6: I mean we're a couple of months away, maybe next year.

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Speaker 1: Do you think this is because Braun has now said, well,

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Speaker 1: this is a priority for me. Never mind, he did

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Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff this session that will likely raise

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Speaker 1: utility rates. We said this is a priority for me.

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Speaker 1: Do you think with her saying, wow, you guys are

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Speaker 1: paying too much, this is some sort of opening salvo,

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Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, to these utility companies

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Speaker 1: Going okay, if you guys come for these rate increases

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Speaker 1: in the near future, not only are we going to

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Speaker 1: fight that, but now we're going to try to get

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Speaker 1: the rates lowered. Like I've just I've never I'm with you,

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Speaker 1: I've never seen this before.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Absolutely, I think they're trying to set a tone.

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Speaker 6: And you know, this was the first rate case up

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Speaker 6: and so this is the one you know that's currently

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Speaker 6: in the middle of the process and get the attention.

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Speaker 6: And so they definitely did that on purpose to, like

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Speaker 6: you said, a falvo or warning to other utilities who

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Speaker 6: might be coming forward a quest A.

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Speaker 1: Couple of minutes left here with Nicky Kelly from the

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Speaker 1: Capitol Chronicle. As we said, even though a lot of

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Speaker 1: national events going on, state business continued a lot of

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Speaker 1: important stuff in fact going on yesterday. The other big

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Speaker 1: one was that Republican senators met in a closed door

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Speaker 1: caucus about redistricting. I know you were on the story

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Speaker 1: as well as Whitney Downard. You guys tried to get

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Speaker 1: comment from these senators as that came out. They were

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Speaker 1: pretty close lipped on everything.

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Speaker 6: Yet no one was talking yesterday. I mean, they were

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Speaker 6: always very polite when they declined, but no one was talking.

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Speaker 6: They met for more than two hours, and I know,

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Speaker 6: going in, I had heard there were several center Republicans

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Speaker 6: who were going to oppose redistricting in that caucus, but

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Speaker 6: you know, they've definitely closed ranks in terms of what happened.

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Speaker 1: In that room, you know, and you tweeted this out,

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Speaker 1: saw it up with you. One of the things that

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Speaker 1: is so silly about all of this. And obviously we've

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Speaker 1: spent much of our day to day talking about the

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Speaker 1: tragic assassination of Charlie Kirk and it's horrible, but the

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Speaker 1: idea that a guy like Jim Lucas state representative, who

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Speaker 1: was adamantly against this then would just come out and go, well,

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Speaker 1: now I'm for it. I mean, it just shows to me, Nikki,

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Speaker 1: the whole silliestness and un seriousness of this that while

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Speaker 1: his assassination is horrible, you can't be crafting public policy

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Speaker 1: if you've already said, hey, this is bad for our state,

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Speaker 1: as Jim Lucas has repeatedly said, or bad for my constituents,

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Speaker 1: and then because some guy tragically dies, then you go, well,

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Speaker 1: I've changed my whole in my mind now. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it just seems like the whole thing is ridiculous to me.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was. It was an interesting tweet and that's

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Speaker 6: why I sent it out. Now. To be fair, Jim

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Speaker 6: Lucas was adamantly opposed in the beginning, and in fact

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Speaker 6: said why on a Charlie Kirk post who when Charlie

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Speaker 6: was pushing it. Then you know, after the White House

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Speaker 6: meeting he did come out and say, hey, look I

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Speaker 6: my mind is more open now. I'm you know, I

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Speaker 6: haven't made a decision, but I definitely learned some things.

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Speaker 6: And now, as of after the Charlie Kirk assassination, he

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Speaker 6: says he is all in got a redistrict and so

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Speaker 6: he seems to have completely done the one eighty at

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Speaker 6: this point.

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Speaker 3: I took that as an emotional response, Nikki, And do

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Speaker 3: you think is that a good place to start when

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Speaker 3: it comes to crafting policy or should we always remain

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Speaker 3: logical on things?

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean, obviously I don't think it's you know,

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Speaker 6: I don't know. I mean, that's up to him. It

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Speaker 6: probably is an emotional response, but you know, as long

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Speaker 6: as he can back it up with factual reasons, I

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Speaker 6: guess that's his prerogative. And we'll probably hear more in

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Speaker 6: the coming weeks. I know how the Republicans are causing

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Speaker 6: on Friday tomorrow about this issue again, and so hopefully

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Speaker 6: we'll get some movement forward instead of this sort of

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Speaker 6: wait and see approach we've been in for now more

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Speaker 6: than a month.

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Speaker 2: Nikki Kelly one of the best man.

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Speaker 1: They've got so much great stuff going on right now

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Speaker 1: at the Indiana Capitol Chronicle. Find him over at Indiana

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Speaker 1: Capitol Chronicle dot com. Great job on the Jennifer Ruth Greenpeace,

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Speaker 1: and great job on all this stuff you guys do.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, Thanks for that. Guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're listening to Kennel and Casey on ninety three WIBC.

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Speaker 7: Got sound.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I got to ask you a question. You have

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Speaker 2: no idea of what I'm about to ask you.

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Speaker 4: Now. I love it when you do this, you know that, right.

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Speaker 1: I feel we have to pivot very quickly because you

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Speaker 1: told me something during the break and I'm morphed into

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Speaker 1: a bad version of myself and I've got to pivot

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Speaker 1: back off this.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into it next hour.

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Speaker 1: I just need a minute to process it because I

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Speaker 1: was ready to do it now.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I just you just read to me the

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Speaker 2: most stupid.

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Speaker 1: Thing I've ever heard in my entire life, and I

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Speaker 1: cannot believe this person put this out out into the ether.

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Speaker 2: We will get into that.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna do it now, and then I thought,

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Speaker 1: there's no way I can do the segment without making

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Speaker 1: Kevin have a very nervous trigger finger on the dump button.

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Speaker 1: And I need a few minutes to collect my thoughts,

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Speaker 1: so I have to do something else.

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Speaker 4: I recommend well, like Casey's eyes. She was like, and

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Speaker 4: you were going to have that reaction to it.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's the problem.

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Speaker 4: I hapol have kept it from you had I known

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Speaker 4: we had.

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Speaker 2: This conversation earlier.

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Speaker 1: When you are the bearer of bad news to me, right,

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Speaker 1: you have the grave misfortune of being the bearer of

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Speaker 1: bad news because keV is doing things during the break.

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Speaker 1: He's not scouring the internet. You're always looking for things,

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Speaker 1: and so you read me the thing. But then I

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Speaker 1: always feel bad because and it's not any different than

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Speaker 1: I just have a little more colorful language sometimes, but

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Speaker 1: it's not any different than I am here. But I

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Speaker 1: feel bad because I'm not yelling at you.

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Speaker 3: You I didn't write it, no, and I you you

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Speaker 3: you were I was, I was I was just the messenger.

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Speaker 1: But then somebody's like, maybe it would be better if I

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Speaker 1: just looked at Kevin. But then that would be awkward

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Speaker 1: because I'm you're the one giving me the info. I'd

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Speaker 1: like keV might take it better than you do. Let's

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Speaker 1: try this. You say something to me and then I

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Speaker 1: will yell at Kevin in the manner at which uh,

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Speaker 1: just any just any any statement, and then we will

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Speaker 1: try this out on there and you tell me if

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Speaker 1: this works.

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Speaker 2: I just feel like this would be awkward.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I'll give you a statement, all right.

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Speaker 3: Ready, Indiana's nonprofit hospitals reported more than a billion dollars

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Speaker 3: in profits.

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Speaker 2: A billion dollars in profit. But there's supposed to be

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Speaker 2: a non profit. How they make a billion dollars?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's weird, seal weird, that is. Yeah, you got

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Speaker 4: to direct it to me.

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Speaker 1: See, we tried that and it just didn't work. Hey,

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Speaker 1: real quick, I do have a just a very quick question,

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Speaker 1: and then we'll get the hammer. The Associated Press, and

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Speaker 1: at what point are we no longer paying tribute to

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Speaker 1: an artist. We're just exploiting them. Okay, so here here

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Speaker 1: is my question. The Associated Press had an article about

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Speaker 1: some guy. I have no idea this guy is. But

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Speaker 1: you got you and Kever up on the pop culture

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Speaker 1: Callum Scott.

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Speaker 2: Do you know who that is?

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Speaker 1: He's an English singer of some sort, English artist from

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Speaker 1: one direction. I don't know, Kevin. I just said he's

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Speaker 1: an English singer. Is how he's listed in the Associated press.

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Speaker 1: Seems like he's a known quantity of some sort. He's

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Speaker 1: doing a duet with Whitney Houston. Oh that's interesting because

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Speaker 1: she's been dead for thirteen.

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Speaker 3: Years, right, So this is through the magic of AI

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Speaker 3: or leftover tracks. He's just going to add his vocals

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Speaker 3: on top of something that's already been produced with her

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Speaker 3: on it.

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Speaker 1: They describe it as a balladic balladiic reinterpretation. Boy, you

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Speaker 1: know it's a scam right there. When you see the

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Speaker 1: phrase balladiic reinterpretation. That's interesting of the timeless. I want

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Speaker 1: to dance with somebody.

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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, we use.

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Speaker 2: It Houston's original vocal stems stems.

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Speaker 5: This is.

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Speaker 1: Stems are the individual music elements, when combined.

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Speaker 2: Make up a song. So aren't we just exploiting at

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Speaker 2: this point?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean it's one thing like, Hey, Jimmy Hendrix had

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Speaker 1: this album and the Cooker.

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Speaker 4: When he had an untimely got on the lost tapes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so we put it out, you know, a

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Speaker 2: year or two after his death. Right, clearly we were

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Speaker 2: still trying to make money. But there's some you know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the Beatles did that with John Lennon.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, we're right, but but not Well, let's face

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Speaker 1: it that what was that real love?

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Speaker 2: And what was free as a bird? That was a

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Speaker 2: scamsky too.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm saying this person had something into works

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Speaker 1: they were recording, because they did that with the Lenin

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Speaker 1: stuff where they just they dubbed it all together and

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Speaker 1: it was twenty five years after fifteen years after he

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Speaker 1: died or whatever. Correct, that was a scamsky to make money.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying with Hendrix. Didn't they do this with Hendrix

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Speaker 1: Kevin where there was some there was some album that

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Speaker 1: got released after his death. He was in the in

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Speaker 1: the early seventies that he had supposedly been working on.

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Speaker 1: I'm okay with that, But this is this guy had

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Speaker 1: nothing to do with her. No, he wasn't some that

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Speaker 1: I'm aware of.

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Speaker 4: Why is he using her voice at all? Well, why

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Speaker 4: does he just release a new version of it or

641
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Speaker 4: the remake.

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Speaker 2: Because he can't he can't say.

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Speaker 1: I mean he was going to sell more with Callum

644
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Speaker 1: Scott or Callum Scott featuring Whitney Houston. Yeah, are you

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Speaker 1: looking up when I that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was trying to find I've never heard of that. Yes,

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Speaker 2: there was something. I'll look it up during the break

648
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Speaker 2: that either. Yes, I got it.

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Speaker 4: I'm not doubting you.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I'm I got a plus plus in

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Speaker 1: my history of Jimmy Hendrick's class in college. Right, Yeah,

652
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Speaker 1: you did take a class one hundred and four percent.

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Speaker 1: Now this was seventeen eighteen years ago or whatever. But

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Speaker 1: I'm almost certain that there was some compilation that came

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Speaker 1: out after Hendricks passed away.

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Speaker 2: And I'm gonna look it.

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Speaker 1: Up during the break, okay, because you know how this

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Speaker 1: file cabinet, I know, pull that fill hammer to be

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Speaker 1: here too.

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Speaker 4: The first raise of the New Rising Sun.

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Speaker 2: I knew it.

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Speaker 4: Nineteen ninety seven.

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Speaker 8: No no, no, no no no no no no no no

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Speaker 8: no no no like this this was this came out

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Speaker 8: after his like in the aftermatha I'll look it up

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Speaker 8: during the break, okay, And I'm gonna spike the football

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Speaker 8: when we come back plus Amoral be here.

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Speaker 4: It's Kennilly Casey on ninety three WIBC.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so Kevi and I were both right. It's one

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Speaker 2: of the few times that could possibly happen.

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Speaker 1: Last segment we were I said, there is some there

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Speaker 1: was some unreleased Jimmy Hendrick's work of stuff he had

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Speaker 1: done that came out shortly after his death.

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Speaker 2: We were both right.

675
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: It is that first Raise of the New Rising Sun

676
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Speaker 1: was not released till the nineties. But it is stuff

677
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: that he was working on when he died, and then

678
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: they cleaned it up and put it together.

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Speaker 9: So there wasn't the crap that he didn't want released

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Speaker 9: while he was alone.

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Speaker 2: No, it was like working on it. Oh, and he died.

682
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Speaker 9: Because by the way, I'm Jason Hammer, that's Nige and

683
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Speaker 9: I have talked about this quite a bit. What happens

684
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Speaker 9: with a lot of these artists. You saw it with

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Speaker 9: Michael Jackson and Prince And here's what we found in

686
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Speaker 9: the vault. We're going to release this now. Like they

687
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 9: had a post death TUPAC album, this was what was

688
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Speaker 9: in the vault. What's in the vault is all the

689
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Speaker 9: crap they didn't like and didn't release.

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Speaker 4: When they were alive, didn't make it to the album.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Bruce just did this with these seven or

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00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: eight albums that I you know, that I never put out, and.

693
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Speaker 2: Then you listen to them and go, that's why you

694
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 2: never put them out. They stink.

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Speaker 9: The new Mumbling Gibberish album by Bruce Springsteen, unreleased, found.

696
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Speaker 4: In the vaults.

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Speaker 2: But people buy this stuff, Yeah they do.

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Speaker 9: Some people have like a collection, right, Like if you

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Speaker 9: have all of the Springsteen albums or all of the

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Speaker 9: Prince albums, you want to fill out the list, I guess.

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Speaker 9: But it's all the crap they didn't want released when

702
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Speaker 9: they were alive, and some of it's.

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Speaker 1: Got awful, but it's not just bad, Like it's inaudible

704
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: whaling at some points. And I'm like, what record company

705
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: would have ever put this out? No matter even if

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Speaker 1: it was Taylor Swift, they would.

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Speaker 4: Remained in the vault.

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Speaker 9: But then You've got to remember there was a record

709
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Speaker 9: company that had Garth Brooks talked them into him being

710
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 9: Chris Gaines and doing a pop album, which is the

711
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 9: dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life.

712
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Speaker 1: What was not dumb was your coverage yesterday of the

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk assassination. I said this on air with you

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Speaker 1: guys yesterday. I listened throughout much of the day and

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Speaker 1: I thought you guys did a phenomenal job handling that.

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Speaker 1: And you know, for people driving down the road, they

717
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: don't realize how difficult that is to handle. Not just

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Speaker 1: breaking news, but tragic breaking news. And it literally happened

719
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Speaker 1: right before you guys went on the air.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: So we get here about ten thirty in the morning,

722
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 9: and you know, we put the show together. We try

723
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 9: to make it as fun as we can. We want energy,

724
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 9: we want bits, a lot of production, wacky songs. That's

725
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 9: kind of what we do. So that's how we spend

726
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 9: most of our day. We give you the news of

727
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 9: the day and then we try to mix in some

728
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 9: fun too. That's the Hammer and Nigel recipe. Everything we

729
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 9: did till about two forty went out the window yesterday. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: that's what we found out. News started to leak rather

731
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Speaker 9: and it was just fly by the seat of the

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Speaker 9: pants yesterday and everybody here was so awesome. The right Rob,

733
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Speaker 9: you took time out of playing with your daughter outside.

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Speaker 2: To join us.

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Speaker 9: I knew you had spoken with Charlie Kirk, and you

736
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 9: gave a great perspective.

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Speaker 1: I just left her on the playground so I'll be

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Speaker 1: back in ten minutes work and she was still there

739
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Speaker 1: when I came back.

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Speaker 2: She was running with scissors.

741
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Speaker 4: She didn't have any clothes on, no problem.

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Speaker 9: Guy Ralpherd gave a great perspective on the security aspect

743
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Speaker 9: because in addition to being a firearms instructor, Guy has

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00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 9: worked with people on setting up security for these types

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00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 9: of events back to back days. Lieutenant Governor of my

746
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,959
Speaker 9: could beck with was kind enough to come on. He's

747
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Speaker 9: somebody that went on the road to Purdue, I believe,

748
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Speaker 9: with Charlie Kirk and some other places. So folks came

749
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Speaker 9: on last minute, shared their perspectives. We opened up the

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Speaker 9: phones a little bit.

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00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 2: Last night.

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Speaker 9: Felt like it was kind of therapeutic. It was a

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Speaker 9: different Hammer and Nigel show. If yesterday was the first

754
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Speaker 9: time you've ever heard what we do in the afternoon,

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00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 9: It's not normally like that, but when we have to be, that's.

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Speaker 2: What we do.

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Speaker 4: I'm curious where did you get confirmation of the news.

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00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 9: We saw it first on Donald Trump's Truth Social I

759
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 9: wanted to have a good source with it because people

760
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 9: were sending me messages.

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Speaker 2: Charlie's passed away.

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Speaker 9: Charlie's passed away. I had seen that for about twenty minutes.

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Speaker 9: But the sources I didn't necessarily feel confident about because

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Speaker 9: one thing we talked about yesterday and this is still

765
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 9: very true. Whenever there's a major breaking news story, you know,

766
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 9: go back to nine to eleven, or the Charlie Kirk

767
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 9: shooting yesterday, whatever it is, even you know, Challenger exploding

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00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 9: January sixth, whatever the major news story is, there's so

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Speaker 9: much bull crap that gets put out in the news

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Speaker 9: cycle right away because everybody wants to be first, and

771
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 9: nobody cares if they're right, So we have to be right.

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Speaker 9: But once I saw the old man Trump put that

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Speaker 9: out on truth Social, It's like, all right, that's a

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00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 9: pretty good source.

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Speaker 2: We're going to run with that. Yeah, what are you

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Speaker 2: doing this afternoon?

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Speaker 9: So we had prepared like a nine to eleven type

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Speaker 9: show in advance. We have the governor coming on to

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Speaker 9: talk about Indiana in nine to eleven, and you know,

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00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 9: we've got other questions for Governor Brown as well, but

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00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,720
Speaker 9: that's what we had booked him for. Senator Banks talking

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00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 9: about nine to eleven as well, but we'll also get

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Speaker 9: into the Charlie Kirk stuff.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of local stuff happening, and I'm.

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Speaker 9: Glad you guys brought that up earlier in your show.

786
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 9: It's kind of flying under the radar due to this

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Speaker 9: news cycle, but we'll try to get into that, and

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Speaker 9: you know what, we're gonna try to have fun today too.

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Speaker 9: I know it's not a fun day on the American calendar,

790
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 9: but if you don't do what you do, man, the

791
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 9: bad guys win.

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Speaker 2: So let's get after it.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Hammer. It is Kendallen Casey on ninety three WIBC