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Speaker 2: Oh we are action bringing us back here on this

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Speaker 2: Tuesday morning live from Westfield. That is the Fan Morning

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Speaker 2: Show report day for Colts Training Camp, and the Colts

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Speaker 2: will dominate the conversation really for the rest of the

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Speaker 2: week here on the show. But I thought we needed

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Speaker 2: to sneak in some Pacers combo before we kind of

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Speaker 2: shift gears. I thought out Sandy an interview with Chad

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Speaker 2: Buchanan the Setting the Pace Squad. Alex Golden, you hear

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Speaker 2: him on our airwaves a good amounts and FACI did

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Speaker 2: a wonderful job with the Pacers GM over the weekend.

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Speaker 2: You can find that out on the Setting the Pace podcast.

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Speaker 2: And to talk about that, Alex joins us right now,

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Speaker 2: mister Golden. Great work on that. Good morning to you, sir.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Thanks guys. You always appreciate Chand's availability to come

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Speaker 1: on the podcast, and I felt like this was probably

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Speaker 1: one of his most transparent conversations we've had with them

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Speaker 1: since joining the show throughout the throughout the season, so

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Speaker 1: it's it's definitely I'm very grateful that he was able

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Speaker 1: to give us some insight on some things.

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Speaker 2: The answer that stood out to you the most was what.

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Speaker 3: Good question?

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Speaker 1: I would say the one that probably stood out to

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Speaker 1: me the most was just how open they're going to

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Speaker 1: be for the competition at the shooting guard spot and

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Speaker 1: the center position. It was, we're not committing to anything

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Speaker 1: and everything else is kind of up for grabs. So

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Speaker 1: I think that'll be very interesting to see what happens

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Speaker 1: at training camp. You can probably pinpoint who you think

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Speaker 1: the favorite are to get it, but it seems like

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Speaker 1: they want to look at everything before they just commit

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Speaker 2: How stunned would you be if Benedict Matheren was not

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Speaker 2: a starter?

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Speaker 3: I would be pretty scis I mean, that answer stood

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Speaker 3: out to me too, man. He said that.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, wait, I mean, yeah, I just I don't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, And that's that's the thing, because I

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Speaker 1: thought when Rick said it, maybe he was just not

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Speaker 3: So I was like, maybe maybe he was just talking.

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Speaker 1: Didn't think too much about it. But when Chad kind

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Speaker 1: contract year, I think that plays a factor into it.

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Speaker 1: Not wanting to you know, maybe maybe give him something

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Speaker 1: little bit more of a chip on his shoulder that

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Speaker 1: if he doesn't start, I will be flabbergasted by who

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Speaker 1: they're going to put in there, because I just don't

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Speaker 4: Well, we got a flabbergasted at seven thirty six in

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Speaker 4: the morning. That is quite the word that Alex goes in.

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Speaker 4: I do want to get one more in on Benedict matherin.

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Speaker 4: Why do you think there is perhaps the hesitation to

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Speaker 4: to see from him as he goes into another season

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Speaker 4: where obviously would be pivotal for him and the team

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Speaker 4: to see if he's a dude and can be a

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I think part of it too is, like

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Speaker 1: the great opportunity for him to prove his words, and

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Speaker 1: I don't think they want to do that specifically. I

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Speaker 4: They put them at the kids table, so when you

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Speaker 2: He's been to the kids table a lot. I think

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Speaker 2: it a career setting the paces the podcast. Alex Olden

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Speaker 2: does in a wonderful job with that. Chad Buchanan was

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Speaker 2: medical exemption if I'm if I have the phrasing right

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Speaker 2: for Tyrese Halliburton, that news item Chad shared with you.

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Speaker 2: The Pacers applied for that and got it. Could you

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Speaker 2: explain to our audience, I guess how that works, and

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Speaker 2: if you think the Pacers will then.

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Speaker 1: Use that, Yeah, so they applied for a disabled player exception,

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Speaker 1: which means that Tyrese won't be able to play all

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Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting he mentioned how much he

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Speaker 2: thinks Pascal Siakam could and will be affected by the

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Speaker 2: You know how much he kind of pointed that out.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know, I guess age and kind of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it did to me a little bit too. But

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Speaker 1: I also think, like tyreech just he does so much

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Speaker 1: But just playing a difference because I think that's what

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Speaker 3: It's not a gap year for.

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Speaker 1: of that's going to be put on pascal shoulders is

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Speaker 4: One of the things that set out to me from

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Speaker 4: people we've talked to this summer about Isaiah Jackson. They're

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Speaker 4: you know, your thoughts on Chad's you know, assessment of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they feel.

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Speaker 1: Obviously a little bit different than Miles because he's not

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Speaker 1: looking like he's put on twenty.

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Speaker 3: Thirty's that's so different. He looks like a superhero now, geez, And.

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Speaker 1: They said that's kind of been the goal the whole

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Speaker 1: time is to get him to keep adding weight. But

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Speaker 1: during this he wasn't able to do much with his

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Speaker 3: I thought it was great work, man.

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Speaker 4: Lebron jameson Pacers, he heard it here first from Alex Golden.

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Speaker 3: They can trade all their picks, right, Alex?

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Speaker 1: Enjoy the enjoy the training camp.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. Yes, we are indeed live here at Westfield.

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Speaker 2: It is a gorgeous start to this Tuesday morning report

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Speaker 3: What do you want to know?

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Speaker 4: Where's Anthony in his progress? What do you expect to

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Speaker 4: I also want to know about linebacker do you think about,

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Speaker 2: Really a I thought it was an interesting question. Larry

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Speaker 4: If Ar is balling, though, I think it's hard to

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Speaker 4: I don't think you would be safe if if Anthony

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Speaker 3: He still has time to prove it. She's not wrong.

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Speaker 2: that Carl Orce Gordon shared and we will hit on

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Speaker 2: that here coming up in the eight o'clock hour Ryan

441
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Speaker 2: and the YouTube chat. Any connection to the Kevin Pritchard

442
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Speaker 2: trade talk on the non commitment to Benedict Matheren.

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Speaker 3: At the two oh so, do you.

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Speaker 2: Put either of those two things, I guess together. Of

445
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Speaker 2: all right, the starting two guard is up in the

446
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Speaker 2: air and we're open to trades, or do you look

447
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Speaker 2: at it and say, uh, they're just saying that to

448
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Speaker 2: try and continue to light a fire under Benedict Matherin.

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Speaker 4: I think it's twofold because you don't necessarily dismiss players,

450
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Speaker 4: and now that they've dismissed him, but you don't dismiss

451
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Speaker 4: the notion of him starting right away.

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Speaker 3: If you know he's going to start if you know,

453
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Speaker 3: he's a guy like a.

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Speaker 4: Benedict matherin it came out and you know, was really

455
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Speaker 4: and I think he's still a very good player in

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Speaker 4: his draft class. But he had proven he was a

457
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Speaker 4: star by now, we wouldn't even be talking like this

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Speaker 4: about who's starting and is he going to get paid?

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Speaker 4: This will be a formality, the extension will probably be already

460
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Speaker 4: be done by now. But since it hasn't been done,

461
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Speaker 4: I think that's always a possibility. And to trade Kevin

462
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Speaker 4: you gotta have something that people want. I think that

463
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Speaker 4: he's still a wanted player outside of Indiana is just

464
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Speaker 4: you know, can you figure out one how to keep mirror?

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Speaker 4: You never want your draft picks to leave, but it

466
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Speaker 4: is a possibility, I would think.

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Speaker 2: I think we have such insane expectations for top ten

468
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Speaker 2: draft picks. Like I know you weren't meeting this, but

469
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Speaker 2: you asked. You said, he hasn't proven that he's a

470
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Speaker 2: star right now or something along those lines.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you look.

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Speaker 2: At the number six draft picks, I know, the last deck,

473
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Speaker 2: I know you can pick the case Bendick mather might

474
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Speaker 2: be one of the best already. I know, like like

475
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Speaker 2: top ten draft I mean, even the six overall pick.

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Speaker 3: It's just not a giving.

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Speaker 4: It is crazy the amount we did this years ago,

478
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Speaker 4: Indy Star Kevin. Once you get outside of the top five,

479
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Speaker 4: your ability to find like a star, as I mentioned,

480
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Speaker 4: drops significantly signific from five to six thousand. But I

481
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Speaker 4: say that because when they're going over money and pay

482
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Speaker 4: and all the things, they're gonna think about how you

483
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Speaker 4: might not be in that upper echelon. And really, my

484
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Speaker 4: biggest thing is not that I don't think Mathern is

485
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Speaker 4: a good player. My biggest thing is that if you

486
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Speaker 4: want to get back to title contention and you want

487
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Speaker 4: to get back to you know that as quickly as

488
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Speaker 4: possible with the healthy Halliburton. Again, as I've said for

489
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Speaker 4: a couple of weeks now, it's got to be Walker

490
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Speaker 4: or Matherin becoming a star, and neither to this point,

491
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Speaker 4: I'm not saying that their bus, but to this point

492
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Speaker 4: they haven't proven it there at that level.

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Speaker 2: Could you imagine one month ago tonight, the Pacers are

494
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Speaker 2: in Game seven the NBA Finals and let's just play

495
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Speaker 2: out of mather and trade hypothetical and one month later,

496
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Speaker 2: no Haliburton for this coming. So Lord Turner's gone and

497
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Speaker 2: Mathern's gone.

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Speaker 4: When you put it like that, it does I really,

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Speaker 4: I mean I can because two of the three things

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Speaker 4: have already happened.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know it is wild. That's wild.

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Speaker 2: People started trickling the great Casey Valier from Cults Radio

503
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Speaker 2: in the house. Colts Training Camp is starting to get

504
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Speaker 2: underway again. Report day from Grand Park. We are live

505
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Speaker 2: here and we are scheduled that Kenny Moore the second

506
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Speaker 2: join us a little bit later in the show. Practice

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Speaker 2: times will commence ten am Tomorrow, Thursday and Friday Saturday

508
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Speaker 2: afternoon as well. We got all your coverage on the

509
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Speaker 2: other side. What was that carly erse Gordon answer. I

510
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Speaker 2: think Colts fans will like to hear. We'll share that

511
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Speaker 2: coming up next. Kenny Moore the second year nine.

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Speaker 3: Kenny, why have that right? Where are we? Where's the

513
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Speaker 3: time going? We might have to dump that one. Mark.

514
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Speaker 3: How's the body? The body's great? Body's great.

515
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Speaker 2: How much is training different for you? Like June July

516
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Speaker 2: when you hit summer vacation. What did it look like

517
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Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, What does it look like

518
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Speaker 2: now twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 7: I think just as a young player in early you

520
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 7: were just trying to figure out what is that in

521
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Speaker 7: my body, the need where do I want to go

522
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Speaker 7: as far as you know, how does my body feel?

523
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Speaker 7: I think I was feeling worse during that time with

524
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Speaker 7: twenty seventeen. I mean it sounds crazy, but you know

525
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Speaker 7: you're going from straight from college to the draft to

526
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Speaker 7: you know, obviously the compound and everything straight to OTAs

527
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Speaker 7: you know, mini camps and all that stuff. So didn't

528
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Speaker 7: really get much of a break. But obviously year nine,

529
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Speaker 7: I've got some breaks after the season, spring training, and

530
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Speaker 7: then you get another break after that. So over the

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Speaker 7: years I begin to learn what exactly I need from

532
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Speaker 7: from my body to be ready for day one and

533
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Speaker 7: training camp.

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Speaker 4: Kenny, what's the biggest difference or growth you've kind of

535
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Speaker 4: seen to yourself from you know, being undrafted till year

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Speaker 4: nine and you know, earning a couple of contracts, Like,

537
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Speaker 4: what's been the biggest overall lesson that you've kind of

538
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Speaker 4: taken away from.

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Speaker 3: This game so far? Ooh, that's a great question.

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Speaker 7: I think the first thing that popped in my head

541
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Speaker 7: was management and managing my my mental, my physical, and

542
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Speaker 7: my emotional and y you know, every year you playing

543
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Speaker 7: in the league or every year that kind of goes

544
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Speaker 7: by you. Somehow, you beginning to know more people, you

545
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Speaker 7: begin to do more stuf of. If you you gain

546
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Speaker 7: more interest, you find out what I like and dislike.

547
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Speaker 7: So I think managing all those things to make sure

548
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Speaker 7: you can go back out and perform at a high level,

549
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Speaker 7: and make sure you can go out and and delegate

550
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Speaker 7: all this time to other people with the family, yourself,

551
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Speaker 7: the balance the management of all of those things is

552
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Speaker 7: is very important. So I think for me personally, uh,

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Speaker 7: the management space of my life has been.

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Speaker 4: Definitely most important along those lines of having like other responsibilities.

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Speaker 4: I know you're you know, involved with the NFLPA as

556
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Speaker 4: far as the cults and things like that. How much

557
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Speaker 4: do you pay attention to what happened this offseason as

558
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Speaker 4: far as you know the reports that hey, they were

559
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Speaker 4: colluding to not give you all guaranteed contracts and things

560
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Speaker 4: of that nature.

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Speaker 7: Well, those are those are things that I'm still learning about.

562
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Speaker 7: I think those are just ongoing things. Like every week

563
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Speaker 7: it's kind of something new coming out, so we'll get

564
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Speaker 7: to the bottom of it with time. But uh, yeah,

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Speaker 7: I'm just not learning about those things. In the last

566
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Speaker 7: couple of weeks or so. It's not nothing that I

567
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Speaker 7: was already aware of in years prior to this one.

568
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Speaker 7: So I think it's news to everybody. I think it's

569
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Speaker 7: business is crazy obviously, and there's a lot of money

570
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Speaker 7: that goes into a lot of things around here.

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Speaker 3: And so yeah, that's all I have to say about

572
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Speaker 3: it self. The story.

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Speaker 2: I'm drafted free agent Kenny Moore than second. It's had

574
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Speaker 2: a great NFL career and it's year nine upcoming here

575
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Speaker 2: for the Colt.

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Speaker 3: He joins us here live at Grand Park.

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Speaker 2: Kenny, what's left on the individual I don't know if

578
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Speaker 2: you're a big goal guy, but on the individual list

579
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Speaker 2: for you to achieve in your NFL career.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, I keep kissing.

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Speaker 7: I think that I mean left to achieve. I mean, look,

582
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Speaker 7: the game doesn't owe me anything. It doesn't owe me anything.

583
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Speaker 7: I just keep working hard.

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Speaker 6: That's it.

585
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Speaker 3: That's what I older myself as.

586
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Speaker 7: Hard work and I gotta be That's that's all I'm

587
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Speaker 7: responsible of. That's all I can control is is how

588
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Speaker 7: I approach the game. I truly believe if you love

589
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 7: a game, it'll love you back. And you know I

590
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Speaker 7: don't I don't want to write myself short or just

591
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Speaker 7: say I've already done what I was supposed to do.

592
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Speaker 7: But look, I'm nine years in. I feel great, my

593
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 7: family is happy, and I just feel like I'm winning.

594
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Speaker 7: I wasn't supposed to be here, you're nine. I was

595
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Speaker 7: going into two weeks at New England and I thought

596
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Speaker 7: I was gonna be erased. I thought I was gonna

597
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Speaker 7: be back in Valdosta. I was two weeks as a colt,

598
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Speaker 7: and I thought I was gonna be back in Valdosta

599
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Speaker 7: from special teams, penalties and all that bs. So I'm

600
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Speaker 7: here now and I feel like, I don't know, I

601
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Speaker 7: kind of own. I kind of own everything that has

602
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Speaker 7: happened in my career. It's been a great movie so far.

603
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Speaker 7: So looking forward to channeling everything that I have in

604
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Speaker 7: me to have a great ninth year in the league.

605
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Speaker 7: It's kind of crazy to keep saying that, but I'm

606
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Speaker 7: having a lot of fun. I just really want to win.

607
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Speaker 2: You just use the word proactive to describe how you

608
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Speaker 2: think this defense will be.

609
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Speaker 3: Can you expand on that.

610
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Speaker 7: Preparation knowing who you're going against, having a plan and

611
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Speaker 7: easily adaptable, And.

612
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Speaker 4: Then Kenny to kind of piggyback of what you were

613
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Speaker 4: saying over here on the other side of the tent

614
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Speaker 4: when it comes to trying to become a top five defense,

615
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Speaker 4: you know, with the pieces that you all have, the

616
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 4: talent you all have on this roster. Lou Anarromo coming in,

617
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Speaker 4: you talked about winning, you know, off the field, and

618
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Speaker 4: having so much that as individually in your career. But

619
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Speaker 4: as you go into your nine and kind of knowing, Okay,

620
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Speaker 4: I don't know if I'll play another nine after this,

621
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Speaker 4: what's the desire level to just you know, again, like

622
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Speaker 4: you said, not be a race and have something that

623
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Speaker 4: you can look back on and be like, Okay, well

624
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Speaker 4: this was.

625
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Speaker 3: This year or two years or whatever.

626
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Speaker 4: How many years we really had something special and we

627
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 4: went and did something special.

628
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Speaker 7: I don't know. I just feel like my approach to

629
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 7: the game is always different. A lot of people waited

630
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 7: their careers off of wins and losses, you know, if

631
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 7: I had a ring or not. But I've always approached

632
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 7: the game, you know, since my senior year of high

633
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 7: school was I played this game to have fun. My

634
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 7: high school is really good. I saw them winning a lot,

635
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 7: even though we got beat first round of the playoffs.

636
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Speaker 7: We had a lot of fun that season, and that

637
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 7: kind of transitioned into playing Division two football. I went

638
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Speaker 7: to a really good program who had just won a

639
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 7: national title, and I met a lot of great people,

640
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 7: a lot of great teammates over there in Valdosta State,

641
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 7: had a lot of great coaches every single year, had

642
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 7: a new defensive system every single year. But somehow we

643
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 7: were able to you know, have some fun and that

644
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 7: just kept me in it. Man, That's that just kept

645
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 7: me in it. If it was too much, you know, raw, raw,

646
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 7: and like, we gotta do this, Like then I would

647
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Speaker 7: I would have fell out of love with football a

648
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 7: long time ago. And then over here in Indianapolis, like,

649
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Speaker 7: of course, we definitely want to win. We definitely have

650
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 7: a lot too old to the city of Indianapolis, and

651
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 7: we want to get that accomplished.

652
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Speaker 3: But I've had a lot of.

653
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Speaker 7: Fun here at Indy and honestly, we we got to

654
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 7: figure out how to have even more fun this year.

655
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 7: We gotta have fun from the jump and me individually,

656
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 7: that's how I stay in it. You know, That's why

657
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 7: you know the dances come out, you know, all the

658
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 7: hand shades and stuff, Cause that's that's a little boy and.

659
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 3: Me that that.

660
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 7: That's what I always loved about ball, was the dancing,

661
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 7: the camaraderie, the park again on the plane that those

662
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 7: are the things that I like to talk about. I

663
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 7: don't talk about, oh third down, Like at the end

664
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 7: of this game, I did this like that, like that's

665
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 7: cool out of appearance or something like that. But like

666
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 7: if I'm in the backyard with the guys, I'm I'm

667
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 7: talking about jumping up with DeForest, you know, after his sack.

668
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 7: Like those are cool moments for me because that's that's

669
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 7: that's that's the little boy. That's that's what I always

670
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 7: saw the game of football ass and so like like

671
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 7: the way they talked about mister Ersay and how he

672
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 7: was the owner and and he he led the the

673
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 7: organization as his little boy self, like he putting them

674
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 7: pads on, taking pictures with the guys, Like that meant

675
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 7: a lot to me, to me because that's the same

676
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 7: vision that I have for football.

677
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 3: That's that's what I see.

678
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 7: And I don't want to ramble on, but that's that's

679
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 7: just my approach. That's why I play the game in

680
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 7: staff fun.

681
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 2: Kid's game, right, Kenny, More than second with us here

682
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 2: a couple more minutes. We appreciate your time on this

683
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 2: report day. With heard some of the members of the

684
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 2: coaching staff single out rookie Justin Wally in the spring.

685
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 2: Your early impressions of the third round corner A out

686
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 2: of Minnesota.

687
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,719
Speaker 7: My early impressions, I mean, I think he has everything.

688
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 7: He has, what he has, what it takes to play

689
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 7: in his game alone time. He he loves football. I

690
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 7: can I can see that he knows how to play

691
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 7: football and he has the instincts and awareness to be

692
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 7: a great player. His ceiling is really high. If I

693
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 7: was to pitch two guys that I'm really high on,

694
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 7: let's say three that I'm really high on. A is

695
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 7: a Adam not Mitchell Wally And I really do like Peers. Yeah,

696
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 7: not just because I go against him.

697
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 3: But it was too offensive and one that's fair, that's fair.

698
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 4: And I guess to that point, what stands out to

699
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 4: you about Ady Mitchell? And and we get it like last

700
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 4: year and he's admitted like, hey, I had to learn

701
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 4: how to be a pro. But yeah, when you line

702
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 4: up against this guy in prost.

703
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 7: I'm saying like potential and tool wise, like he has

704
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 7: the tools like I'm Exciteday, I'm excited for him.

705
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 6: What we have.

706
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 2: Josh Downs joined us here, and I think when we

707
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 2: talk good on good out here, there might not be

708
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 2: a better matchup than when you two go against each

709
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 2: other one on ones.

710
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 3: If we go best out of seven, yeah, I mean yeah,

711
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 3: that's opinion. It would you agree that or no? If

712
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 3: it's the best matchup, I'm not sure.

713
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 2: Best out of seven? You Josh Downs one on one?

714
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 3: Were we going to find out here in training? You think

715
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 3: Josh will answer it? I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Well,

716
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 3: end of this.

717
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 2: You look like a very busy man this offseason, and

718
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 2: feel free to fill in any gaps. You're over in

719
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 2: Germany for the draft. Did you do a little Brewers

720
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 2: spring training?

721
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 3: Did I see that I did?

722
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 6: Yeah?

723
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 3: I got a buddy that I grew up with. He's

724
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 3: a he's a picture for them. What was the best

725
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 3: thing you did his name dial Hall this offseason? Because

726
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 3: the best thing I did this off season or with

727
00:31:59,040 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 3: the Brewers spring training?

728
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 2: I mean to feel free to share about the first

729
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 2: spring training experience.

730
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 7: But I mean, look, I just love sports like it's

731
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 7: just a little boy me and so uh, I went

732
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 7: out there and I tried to get some bad impact practicing,

733
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 7: you know, in the cages and stuff. And I was

734
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 7: already a little nervous because when you walk in there

735
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 7: and you're here, how fast you know those pictures are going,

736
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 7: You're just like, all right, it's got to be the

737
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 7: hardest thing in sports is hit for you for even.

738
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 3: Between us, and so uh.

739
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 7: We we put They got this machine called the Traject

740
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 7: And on the Trajet you can put up any picture

741
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 7: and you can put any pitch, any.

742
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 3: Speed, whatever you want.

743
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 7: So that on the traject it's just it's this entire

744
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 7: screen and it's digital. The picture actually shows up on

745
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 7: this thing, so you think you're in the park. And

746
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 7: so as soon as he's about to release the ball,

747
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 7: and the pitch just comes out of this machine and

748
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 7: we put up Paul schemes and shout out to Paul Skins.

749
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 3: I could not put a put a ball in play.

750
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 3: But what was a mild power.

751
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 7: I mean it was like eighty nine, mid nineties, all

752
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 7: types of pictures and and uh, I made contact, but

753
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 7: they were all foul balls. I got to try to say,

754
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 7: at least you made some contacts. That was our first time.

755
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 7: I'm usually better off the second time I do stuff.

756
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 3: But yeah, if you could be.

757
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 2: A pro athlete in any other sport, what would.

758
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 3: Be That's tough. That's tough. I really that's tough. I

759
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 3: don't know.

760
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 7: Formula one is pretty cool, but it's something about soccer

761
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 7: mm hm, English Premier League striker.

762
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 3: That's me.

763
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 6: Look at that.

764
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, see spoken like somebody else, naturally good at probably

765
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 4: every sport growing up.

766
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 2: I feel like one day I was walking back to

767
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 2: the media sent over here, and I look over and

768
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 2: you weren't you kicking with I think that a.

769
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 3: Couple of years. Yeah, yeah, what did I say about

770
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 3: Kenny Summer?

771
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 5: Really?

772
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 3: You want to see his social media post? I'm like,

773
00:33:58,680 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 3: he'd just be doing stuff.

774
00:33:59,600 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 6: I just do.

775
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I'm telling you. I'm watching the draft. Wait,

776
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 3: there's Kenny Moore.

777
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 7: I wasn't even supposed I didn't even think I was

778
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 7: gonna be doing that, to be honest, I just went

779
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 7: over there to do some American football football academies, that's all.

780
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 7: That's that's why I went over there, is to do

781
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 7: football clinics and to further their game in American football,

782
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 7: you know, as we're trying to, you know, make this

783
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 7: whole thing international stuff like that. Our market is Germany

784
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 7: and we just spended it. We just suspended our markets too,

785
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 7: to Switzerland and Austria. But uh yeah, I just wanted

786
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 7: to go over there to Germany and tap into the

787
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 7: market and have some fun doing football, and that opportunity

788
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 7: came up, so we did it all right.

789
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 2: Last last thing, I lied greatly appreciate your time driving

790
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 2: by lucasaoul Stadium.

791
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 3: What does that mean to see you on the side

792
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 3: of that building.

793
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 7: That'll never become normal to me. I'm a I'm a

794
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 7: graphics guy. I'm a I studied mass media and communication

795
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 7: arts in college. Whenever I was there, present and shout

796
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 7: out the VSU, so that whole area is like that.

797
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 7: That's just what I love. I love graphics.

798
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 3: I just love.

799
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 7: I don't know that's that's an achievements as it is,

800
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 7: you know, driving by that thing. I live downtown, so

801
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 7: my family always took a picture of that every time

802
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 7: they see it, and that'll never that'll never grow to me.

803
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 7: So I really appreciate the Colts doing that.

804
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:33,240
Speaker 6: Again.

805
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 2: It is a hell of a story and it's got

806
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 2: another couple chapters to write, and it Kenny more than

807
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 2: second head into year and nine.

808
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 3: Kenny, stay healthy man. We really appreciate the time that sir.

809
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 2: Thanks I We're back live here in Westfield. It is

810
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,919
Speaker 2: report day for Colts training. Can thank you to Kenny

811
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 2: Moore than second fun chat with certainly one of the

812
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 2: best stories on this Colts team headed into his ninth year,

813
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 2: and that'll be up on the podcast. Josh down scheduled

814
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 2: to do join us in a few I know James

815
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 2: Boyd wrapping up with Zia Franklin on the other side

816
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 2: of the tent here media session. It did sound like

817
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 2: Zay will not be ready for the start of training

818
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 2: camp tomorrow. That was one of the questions that I

819
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 2: had for Chris Ballard coming up later today. Again, there

820
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 2: was some thought even back in the spring that it

821
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 2: might take a few days. It's even more than a

822
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 2: week into camp for Zaya Franklin to be ready. He

823
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 2: had surgery on his ankle early May. James Boyd reed

824
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 2: joins us. Now sounds like Zayer will not be ready

825
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 2: for the first day of practice tomorrow.

826
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 4: Not be ready for the first day of practice and

827
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 4: possibly for the foreseeable future. He didn't put a timeline

828
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 4: on it, said he's still progressing. He said, he just

829
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 4: started running. He's feeling good as he's running. But obviously

830
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 4: it's a big difference between running and playing linebacker in

831
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,720
Speaker 4: the NFL. So I'm just curious to see, you know again,

832
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 4: what does that linebacker group core kind of look like.

833
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 4: You know, we'll get a update later today, probably from

834
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 4: Chris Ballard in regard to Jaylen Carlis, but will he

835
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 4: be available to start camp? So definitely the most newsworthy

836
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 4: item so far in the parting camp.

837
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 2: James we hinted at this a couple of times leading

838
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: into camp that news from Franklin is not the most shocking.

839
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 2: The Colts thought even back in the spring that he

840
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,479
Speaker 2: could miss a week or two into training camp. Now,

841
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,439
Speaker 2: just because it's shocking doesn't mean the news isn't good.

842
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 2: You're installing a new defense. You want the quarterback of

843
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 2: that unit out there. And you know, again, we did

844
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 2: the indispensable thing last week and I had him second

845
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 2: on the list because you're gonna be looking for your

846
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 2: program when you come out here to Grant Park tomorrow

847
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 2: for some of these linebacker numbers, because they are not

848
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 2: household names by any means. And you know, even Carlize James.

849
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 2: We haven't crowned him yet. You know how many games

850
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 2: it even played last year. It has a fifth round

851
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 2: rookie making a position switch as well, so that is

852
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 2: certainly a news item that we have here. So again,

853
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 2: louis an Rumo's early installation of a defense. We'll have

854
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 2: some linebackers that you're not used to seeing out there

855
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 2: with the starting lineup, and we'll see how early Zara

856
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: Franklin gets out there. And I assume, based off what

857
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 2: he said, he'll open the camp on pup. I assume

858
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 2: he'll be on the physically unable to perform lest as

859
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 2: we wait that a little bit later today.

860
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 4: What else out to me about what he was talking

861
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,439
Speaker 4: about was just his excitement for Lou and Remo's defense.

862
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 4: He was even saying himself, although I haven't been out

863
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 4: there just yet in his defense, taking a bunch of

864
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 4: notes and being excited about how he'll be utilized in

865
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 4: Lou and Romo's defense, and then him and the Forest

866
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 4: Buckner or both talking about how Lou again, the overrocking

867
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 4: thing I'm kind of hearing from players is that he

868
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 4: doesn't care what your resume looks like there. And I

869
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 4: think there is a certain level of that that every

870
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 4: coach has to have. But when you're the new coach,

871
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 4: I mean, how much do they really care about what

872
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 4: you did last year? If I wasn't even here to

873
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 4: see you do it, you know, really pay attention to

874
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 4: you do it. I'm clue is probably watch a ton

875
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 4: of film on these guys. But I mean, you kind

876
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 4: of have to earn your respect again with the new coach,

877
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 4: and that excites zire Fro had secks to Forrest Buckner

878
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 4: and so we'll see where this defense can go, what

879
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 4: steps they can do to take a step forward. And honestly,

880
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 4: and ils looking at some of the statistics like points allowed, wise, they.

881
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 3: Can't get much worse.

882
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 4: I mean they've been at the bottom of the league

883
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 4: the last three years, at least three years under Gus Bradley,

884
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 4: they were in the mid twenties or you know, the

885
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 4: high twenties out of the you know, the thirty plus

886
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 4: teams in the league when it comes to defense and

887
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 4: defensive scoring and giving up points. And so if you're

888
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 4: I guess an optimist, you're thinking, you know, of course

889
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 4: they're going to get better because they have no really

890
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 4: no other option.

891
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:27,919
Speaker 3: But to get better.

892
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 2: We're expecting Josh downs at about ten minutes, James. I

893
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 2: thought something that Kenny said that kind of caught my

894
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 2: ear was when he was over there in the media

895
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 2: session he used the word proactive to describe the most

896
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 2: defense before he hopped on air. I kind of offered

897
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 2: my own interpretation of that. I said, Okay, I think

898
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 2: proactive means you're going to play more press man, You're

899
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 2: going to disguise a little bit more. You don't want

900
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 2: to react to what the offerers are doing again, you

901
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 2: want to be a little bit more.

902
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 3: Of let's try and dictate to the offense.

903
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 2: He's spun it in a different way with us. He

904
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 2: spun it in the preparation way. And as we're sitting

905
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 2: here right now, we're even with the end zone on

906
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 2: this north practice field and you can see the letters

907
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 2: right there in the end zone, and all four end

908
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 2: zones here at Grand Park have these core values that

909
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 2: Shane Steiken has for his football team, and one of

910
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 2: those four core values is preparation. And I know I

911
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 2: hit on this last week with you, but I think

912
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 2: when Kenny said that it's worth bringing up again. It

913
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 2: always surprised me that Shane was such a acceptor of

914
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 2: Gus Bradley's defense that lacked preparation from opposing offenses.

915
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 3: You know, you hear these opposing do.

916
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 4: You think get lacked preparation or was that just by

917
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 4: design to kind of give them the underneath?

918
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 3: I mean a lot of that, right, all.

919
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 2: Right, I guess let me reward that. It's not that

920
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 2: that didn't come out how I wanted it sound. Opposing

921
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 2: teams felt like they didn't have to spend a lot

922
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 2: of time preparing defense. Yes, that's what I'm meant here

923
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 2: with that, they didn't stress you mentally a lot, No Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,

924
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 2: like there wasn't a lot to get ready for. And

925
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 2: when I said proactive to Kenny and asked him to

926
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 2: expand on that, he said that from a preparation standpoint,

927
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 2: knowing who we are going against, he feels like that

928
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 2: will be a little bit more of something that frankly,

929
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 2: they just do. So I don't know, it's not what

930
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 2: I was expecting from them, but it makes sense once

931
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 2: you excite it.

932
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 3: No, one hundred percent.

933
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 4: I think a lot of it has to do with

934
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 4: the ability, especially in this league, and you hear players

935
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 4: talk about the time, especially with the quarterbacks and their

936
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 4: ability to do different things. A lot of the more

937
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 4: dual threat, you want to be able to throw different

938
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 4: things at them. And so when you give them the

939
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 4: same recipe, I mean, how many times can you cut

940
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 4: a team who watched the Colts last year and no

941
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 4: matter the opponent being like, Okay, this is what they're

942
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 4: gonna do, that's just not gonna be the case. Leu

943
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 4: and Orumo has never been his mo and that's what

944
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 4: they call him, lou Daney and the mad scientists, and

945
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 4: I get all the jokes, but one of his greatest

946
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 4: strengths as a defel of the coordinator, and one of

947
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 4: his biggest appeals too, I believe this coach's front office

948
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 4: and in this Colts coaching staff, was that the fact

949
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 4: that he's gonna challenge you and in turn, you know,

950
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 4: will that help you, you know, get some wins that

951
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 4: you're not supposed to or in turn create some more

952
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 4: turnovers and perhaps weren't gonna be there before in years past.

953
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 4: And so I think a lot of that has to

954
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 4: do with Leu and Arumo, the new defense, the chameleon

955
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 4: like approach, and also the talent level too. I mean,

956
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 4: we can't overlook the fact that, as much as I

957
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 4: do want to mention that Gus Bradley struggled and maybe

958
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 4: he wasn't the answer. He also didn't get the kind

959
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 4: of personnel that Leu and Roumo just got, you know,

960
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 4: with the upgrades to the secondary.

961
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 2: Sure that is without question. That's the voice of James Boyd.

962
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 2: I'm Kevin Bell and we are live here at Grand Park.

963
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 2: Let's take our final break of the show. On the

964
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 2: other side, Josh Downs, the third year wide out out

965
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 2: of North Carolina. He is scheduled to join us here

966
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:53,280
Speaker 2: report day from Grand Park. It is a beautiful Tuesday

967
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 2: morning here the rest of the week. Hopefully we'll cooperate weatherwise.

968
00:42:56,520 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 2: Josh Downs scheduled to join us coming up next Westfield

969
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 2: Home on this Tuesday morning. We will do that all

970
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 2: week long here on the Phantom Morning Show and Monday

971
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,240
Speaker 2: and Tuesday of next week. It is a picture perfect

972
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 2: Tuesday here report day for the colts and training camp.

973
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 2: Cannymore the second schedule to join myself, Kevin Bowen and

974
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,720
Speaker 2: James Boyd. Thank you to cam on site engineer Mark Dyton.

975
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 2: Back in studio. We're right next door to the Indy

976
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: eleven headquarters. So Mark, let's go ahead and give away

977
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 2: the pair of tickets that's this Saturday night against Tulsa.

978
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 3: Is that correct?

979
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 5: Yes, sir, the Jaegermeister cups. So pair tickets to Saturday

980
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 5: night at Carol Stadium. So three one, seven seventy we'll

981
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 5: have tickets all week long.

982
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 3: Boy, I could use a little shot at Jaeger.

983
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, do you only bust out the

984
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 4: crack of the beer at CARB Day?

985
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 3: Is that just a one time, one year thing?

986
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 2: Honestly I thought about busting out how the Pacers won

987
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:50,919
Speaker 2: it all on that Monday morning.

988
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 3: I think, oh, well that would have been.

989
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 6: Yeah.

990
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 2: I went to a couple liquor stores. I couldn't find

991
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 2: the Pacers beer. I'm like, so many people had already.

992
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, honestly, the demand was probably high,

993
00:43:59,320 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 4: my friends.

994
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 3: A man was very high.

995
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 2: So we'll give away a particket's fast fingers for that

996
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 2: Indy eleven and Tulsa coming up Saturday night three one seven, two,

997
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 2: three nine ten seventy again report day here. I did

998
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 2: think the Carl Ursa Gordon answer that fans will want

999
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 2: to hear. We'll share that in just a second. Couple

1000
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 2: of news items around the NFL, Trey Hendrickson not reporting

1001
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,919
Speaker 2: to Bengals training camp. Adam Schefter had that report here

1002
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 2: just a few minutes ago. James, this has been a

1003
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 2: very public back and forth, boy since Andy Bengals no

1004
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 2: shortage of entertainment here in their offseason.

1005
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 3: I don't think a huge surprise on that.

1006
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 2: Didn't we see this from Zach Martin a couple of

1007
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 2: years ago, you know, handful of days missed and then

1008
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 2: ended up getting it all back with this contract. So

1009
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 2: I don't think it's the end of the world. It's

1010
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 2: July twenty second. But I would say this one has

1011
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 2: been again, much more publicly back and forth than like,

1012
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 2: for example, that Martin one was whatever that was a

1013
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 2: couple years ago.

1014
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Bengals have a few things on their hands

1015
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 4: between that and Shamar Stewart and the stadium talks. But

1016
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 4: if you're Lein Rouma, are you like looking at Chris

1017
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 4: Baller or are we gonna do something here? You know,

1018
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 4: I got his number, you know, I could call him

1019
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 4: and see, you know, how he's feeling. But I would

1020
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 4: at least, I mean, I think it's I've clearly a

1021
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 4: very long shot to ever happen, but I would I

1022
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 4: would definitely kick the tire as if I was Chris Baller.

1023
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 3: By the way, shout out to Bob Kravitz right here

1024
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 3: in front of us.

1025
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 2: Certainly you know the name full well, Bob, and outstanding

1026
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 2: golf outing yesterday over the Country Club of Indianapolis raised

1027
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 2: nearly one hundred thousand for als. Just outstanding, outstanding work

1028
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 2: by Bob and so many people involved. Obviously it's just

1029
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 2: a horrific, horrific disease. So great work from Bob Kravitz

1030
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:42,879
Speaker 2: yesterday and company over there at CCI. A beautiful golf course,

1031
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 2: I must say, and a lot raised for als. So

1032
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 2: thank you to Bob Kravitz for that again. Coming up,

1033
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 2: Kenny Moore the second, going to join us here in

1034
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 2: a little bit.

1035
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 6: James.

1036
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 2: We've had this discussion certainly in the Chris ballad era,

1037
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 2: and I think the discussion at times has shift to ownership.

1038
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 2: How much money should and will the Colts spend in

1039
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,240
Speaker 2: free agency? That has been obviously a big hot button topic.

1040
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 2: And this year we saw really a total one to eighty.

1041
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 2: We saw Chris Ballard acting in ways that we've never

1042
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 2: seen Chris Bollard act in regards to the money spent. Really,

1043
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 2: I would say specifically to Mooney Ward, travari'us Ward and

1044
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 2: Cam bind them. Daniel Jones contract certainly stands out number wise,

1045
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 2: but you know that's kind of the cost of, you know,

1046
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 2: getting a what somewhat competent quarterback. I mentioned earlier JJ's

1047
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 2: thinking It's did a great job and his Colts dot

1048
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 2: Com piece with Carlie ers Gordon, and in that piece

1049
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 2: she was asked specifically about or I should say, she

1050
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 2: brought up specifically the whole debate around free agency, and

1051
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 2: the piece reads is this. She did make it clear

1052
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 2: that the Colts won't have to choose between drafting slash

1053
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 2: developing and free agency. This is the direct quote here

1054
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 2: for Mercey Gordon. It's not an either or we have

1055
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 2: to do both. To me, James Boyd, I think when

1056
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 2: Colts fans see or hear that quote that I just shared,

1057
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 2: you've got the crowd standing. Ovation gift is that like

1058
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 2: the Oscars, they're all like standing. You know that gift

1059
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 2: that I'm talking.

1060
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 3: About, Yeah, I do.

1061
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 2: I might say it's about bleeping time, Welcome to twenty

1062
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 2: first century. You know, roster building, et cetera, et cetera.

1063
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 2: But I think fans would be in Unison in a

1064
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 2: green on that.

1065
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so too.

1066
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 4: Honestly, A lot of it, I think has to do

1067
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 4: with the fact that, you know, you're just sick of

1068
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,240
Speaker 4: feeling like you're behind the trends, or you're behind the moves,

1069
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 4: or you're always one move away, like, you know, how

1070
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,240
Speaker 4: do you marry? You know what, all of your decisions,

1071
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,919
Speaker 4: all of your opportunities to get better with with real

1072
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 4: tangible results, I mean, and that's what they've been chasing,

1073
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 4: is you know, you say you're going to do one thing,

1074
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 4: you say this is going to work. And every year

1075
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 4: we get to this point of the year and we're

1076
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 4: asking Chris Ballard about last season and why it didn't work,

1077
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 4: And so I can certainly, you know, empathize with that.

1078
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 2: Do you take that a step further and read that

1079
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 2: as a con on the carly erse Gordon evaluation sheet

1080
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 2: of Chris Bower.

1081
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 4: Or am I reading too much into that? I don't

1082
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 4: know if you're reading too much. I just don't know

1083
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 4: her well enough to know, you know what I mean?

1084
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 4: Like I would love to be able to tell you

1085
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 4: you always kind of because you give me us years ago. Yeah,

1086
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 4: it's like, okay, this is what it means when he

1087
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 4: says this. I'm just not so sure with her, But

1088
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 4: I do think that I guess I'll say this confidently,

1089
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 4: she is going to have meticulous notes on what you

1090
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 4: did and didn't do. And I don't doubt that for

1091
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,959
Speaker 4: a second from what I've heard internally and even hearing

1092
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 4: some of the players on the record saying, She's someone

1093
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 4: who's very, very detailed. So you have to think that

1094
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 4: your shortcomings, all of that is going to be on

1095
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 4: your resume, regardless of if it should be you know,

1096
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 4: at the top of the resume or whatever.

1097
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 3: It's gonna be on there regardless.

1098
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess training camp number forty one, Mike Chapel,

1099
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 2: you want to throw that headset on right there in

1100
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 2: front of you, Cam, Do we have Mike Chapel out

1101
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 2: and clear the Dean joins us here live at Grand Park?

1102
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:02,919
Speaker 3: Is that right, chap Is it forty one?

1103
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 6: Yeah? This is forty second year, but forty one with COVID,

1104
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 6: So that's either that's.

1105
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 3: Either camp starts or counts. I mean, we all were

1106
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 3: at the complex, you know, how Chap is he's got

1107
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 3: an ask and it's forty two.

1108
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 6: It's either a blessing or a curse. I don't know

1109
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 6: what it is. So you know I've been to more

1110
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 6: camps and jans than it is on the earth.

1111
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 3: This is true?

1112
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 6: Which which is?

1113
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 3: Chad? Say, I'm not that old?

1114
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 2: Come on now, I'll be thirty six in September, because

1115
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 2: I got it. Just because I got a hair transplant

1116
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 2: doesn't mean I'm I'm older than forty two.

1117
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 6: Here, That's one thing. As long as I've lived, I've

1118
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 6: never had a hair transplant. Well I've been. I've been

1119
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 6: blessed with some decent hair.

1120
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:44,399
Speaker 3: But you've got a.

1121
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:45,439
Speaker 6: Great hair there.

1122
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 3: We have some nice letters up there. I know some people.

1123
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 3: As it ever goes for your hair.

1124
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 2: There you go the great Mike Chapel Live hair at

1125
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,919
Speaker 2: Grand Park again. Colts players starting to trickle people.

1126
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 6: As you know. People should really appreciate this because this

1127
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 6: is not my time of day.

1128
00:49:59,440 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 3: No not.

1129
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 6: I had to set to learn for five point fifty

1130
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:03,439
Speaker 6: and that's I'm seen.

1131
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 3: So for you people, this is pretty funny, Chap.

1132
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 4: The other day on our YouTube chat, we had if

1133
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 4: somebody who was asking like man Chap only goes on

1134
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 4: like the noon shows or with JMV. And you know,

1135
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 4: why does he come on with you guys? You know,

1136
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 4: he's always on with Jake and JMV. And I was like,

1137
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 4: Chap is not up this early? And You're like, are

1138
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 4: you sure? Even at nine o'clock? I was like, Chap

1139
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 4: is not up this early?

1140
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 3: Like how many are respecting his wishes? A trust me,

1141
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 3: you know.

1142
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 4: And and for those listening now wondering why he's on here,

1143
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 4: it's because the players are talking here in a few.

1144
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 3: Minutes, and so you show up for us. He showed

1145
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 3: up for Kenny Moore and others.

1146
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 2: I think this is someone's asked me the other day,

1147
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 2: you know, how many years have you been hosting the

1148
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 2: Morning Shot? I think it's my fourth year, Like I

1149
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 2: started right now, like just before training camp, and I

1150
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 2: have probably asked Chap to come on, I'd say probably

1151
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 2: two or three times. And it's for very specific reasons why,

1152
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 2: And I always preface by I want to be very

1153
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 2: respectful of your beauty.

1154
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 3: League, but we could really use you like a ninety.

1155
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 6: Five so nine o'clock hour, which I can do eight

1156
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,760
Speaker 6: thirty ish, So you know, that's it. But no, I'm

1157
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 6: a guy that stays up till twelve thirty one o'clock

1158
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 6: because because I know there'll be a time when I'll

1159
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 6: have plenty of time to sleep.

1160
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 7: But no, I.

1161
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 6: Was listening to you guys in the way in, and

1162
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 6: I wish there was I was up more often to

1163
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 6: listening to you guys. But this is who I am.

1164
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 2: Well, we appreciate the kind of words. We appreciate you.

1165
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 2: You joined us again. We're live here in Westfield. Players

1166
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,919
Speaker 2: should start me in the media here shortly we let

1167
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 2: off the show, Chap, and you would be the perfect

1168
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 2: person to ask with just this general thought of as

1169
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 2: we say here right now, the futures of the pillars

1170
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 2: of the franchise are very much in question. When is

1171
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 2: the last time you've walked into a season where you

1172
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 2: have legitimate questions about will the ghim.

1173
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 3: Be here next year? Will the quarterback be here next year?

1174
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 3: Will the head coach be here next year?

1175
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 2: Because I said to James in the Grigson Pagano era,

1176
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 2: you never doubted Andrew luck. Of course he's still going

1177
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 2: to be the quarterback. It's just do you need to

1178
00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 2: go find a new head coach or a new GM

1179
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 2: for him obviously. You know in the late Caldwell Pollyon,

1180
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 2: you know, Peyton's neck really contributed rights.

1181
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 6: Way you're talking to ninety seven, I mean, think about that.

1182
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 2: Oh, I know it's twenty five, right and we sit

1183
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 2: here right now, and I think it's just I bring

1184
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 2: that up to say, it's such an odd time for

1185
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 2: the fan base, right, they have not you know, some

1186
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 2: NFL franchises they feel this, not annually, but you know

1187
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:23,240
Speaker 2: more frequently.

1188
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,919
Speaker 3: Mark bears it has been like that for a little while.

1189
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 3: That is true.

1190
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 4: But yes, you would say, as someone who went through

1191
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 4: all the dark days with your brother, I'm just saying so.

1192
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 8: You would say ninety seven the last time, Well, you know,

1193
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 8: in twenty eleven we knew there was going to be

1194
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 8: a change because of Peyton's situation where they they they

1195
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,280
Speaker 8: went from you know, they just clean house.

1196
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 6: But no, you're That's the one thing this team has

1197
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 6: been lessed with is continuity, which or say Jim or

1198
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 6: say that's what he wanted, and for the most part

1199
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 6: they've had that. You know, the twenty twenty two was

1200
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 6: a aberration and a circus and all that stuff. But no,

1201
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 6: this is a I keep trying to figure out what's

1202
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 6: the best description of this season and you know consequence,

1203
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 6: we don't know. Someone asked me when the Daughters took over, well,

1204
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 6: whether there be any seismic changes. Well, no, not in May.

1205
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 6: I mean, but this season is going to depend will

1206
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 6: dictate what happens. Will they come here in January and say,

1207
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 6: you know we're in there, We're in a good place,

1208
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 6: We're heading the right direction. Or will they say we

1209
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 6: got to blow this up? And maybe you agree, but

1210
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 6: I don't see them tweaking things at the end of

1211
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 6: the season. It'll be if they're gonna change it. There

1212
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 6: will be changes, whether you know GM head coach and players.

1213
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 6: They've got one and a half a dozen eight players,

1214
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 6: significant players on contract years. I guess depends on who

1215
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 6: what you've got with your franchise at the top, on

1216
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 6: who you resign. I really signed Bernard Ryman regardless because

1217
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 6: you need a left tackle. It after that, I don't know,

1218
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 6: you're gonna wait. I think you're gonna kind of wait

1219
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 6: to see Alec Peers and the Cross. So if they

1220
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 6: have success, and I don't know how you wanted to

1221
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 6: find success, Playoffs ten and seven almost make it, maybe

1222
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 6: you run everybody back because you believe you're in a

1223
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 6: good place. But that depends on the quarterback.

1224
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 4: So I'll throw you the question that Kevin through me.

1225
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 4: If Anthony Richardson is I believe this actually came from

1226
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 4: one of our listeners. If Anthony Richardson has a great

1227
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,879
Speaker 4: season and he shows you he's a guy, but they

1228
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,879
Speaker 4: don't make the playoffs, is everybody back?

1229
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 6: It would? I would need to see what else would

1230
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 6: happen that for what you said, for them not to

1231
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 6: make the playoffs, that's fair.

1232
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,399
Speaker 3: You know, if your first year defensive coordinator has growing pains.

1233
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:56,240
Speaker 6: Right, well, okay or or Jonathan Taylor, heaven forbid gets hurt.

1234
00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 6: But if they are, it starts fifteen games. That's a

1235
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 6: good thing, right, Yeah it is, and that maybe would

1236
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,320
Speaker 6: show you that you're headed in the right direction and

1237
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 6: then you're buying into another year. So but I hope

1238
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 6: that happens. I'm not confident that happens. All we've got

1239
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 6: is two years of a bio to go on, and

1240
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 6: it's not it's not two good years. He's what he

1241
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 6: started fifteen games, seventeen misses by starting the two bingings. Yeah,

1242
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 6: so I you know, and then you got Damiel Jons.

1243
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 6: We're gonna be talking quarterbacks. You guys are, oh year,

1244
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 6: absolutely when he names the starter for now and then

1245
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 6: the opener, and then as soon as that starter struggles,

1246
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 6: how quick you're going to go to the next guy.

1247
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 6: And it's not good. You know, the two areas you

1248
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 6: don't want to have. In my mind open competition in

1249
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 6: camp is quarterback and kicker. And they've got competition at

1250
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 6: bout spots and I think that's not healthy for your team.

1251
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 6: But the quarterback this is where they are because of

1252
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 6: have Richardson's played and I played.

1253
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 2: Training camp number forty two for that man, that would

1254
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,879
Speaker 2: be Mike Chap of the Dean. Here is up at

1255
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 2: an ungodly hour for him on this Tuesday morning.

1256
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 6: One thing, if you get early enough, you miss a

1257
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 6: lot of the traffic.

1258
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all telling him here.

1259
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 6: So so there is there is a plus side, although

1260
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 6: I just I couldn't. I don't know how you guys

1261
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 6: do this every day. I can. I'm too old for this.

1262
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 3: Well, we greatly appreciate your time here. Again. Kenny Moore

1263
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 3: was the second going to join us here and.

1264
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 2: A little bit it is report day at Grand Park

1265
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 2: chap The greatest strength on this roster.

1266
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 6: Is where ooh uh, defensive receiver. I like. I like

1267
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 6: the receiver group, boy, And when's the last time you

1268
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 6: said that? I know, and I still and I'm sure

1269
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 6: they get tired here. I still wish they had the

1270
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 6: guy Jamar Chase. There's only six or seven of those

1271
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 6: guys Nico Collins. But I like the group. I do

1272
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 6: like the group. If ad Mitchell can do something better

1273
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 6: this year, it'll be a lot better defensive line. Again,

1274
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 6: I'm not buying in on the offensive line yet. I

1275
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 6: You're just you're replacing Will Price and Ryan Kelly, and

1276
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:21,919
Speaker 6: that's that's huge. And you and you're relying on Gonzalvez

1277
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 6: and either Bordolini or or ball State's owned Danny Pinter.

1278
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,439
Speaker 6: And I just think that's that that you're asking a lot,

1279
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 6: and the offensive line needs to play well. Those two

1280
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 6: areas jump or those jump out running backs to strength

1281
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 6: because of because of Jonathan Taylor, but he's going to

1282
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 6: miss a couple of games because running backs do. I

1283
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 6: like this roster. I think it's it's gets got deficiencies.

1284
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 6: I mean, the linebacker beyond the sire of Franklin, who

1285
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 6: Jalen Carlis. Yes. But beyond that, I mean, and you've

1286
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 6: got to play linebackers. So I like the roster. I

1287
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 6: think it's a it's a playoff level roster if the

1288
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 6: quarterback just plays good, not great, but good. And and

1289
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 6: I'm skeptical.

1290
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 4: The player who was most poised for a breakout season

1291
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 4: or needs to have a breakout season, good.

1292
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 6: Question a lot two year two, he needs to step up.

1293
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 6: I was with you on that. I was gonna say

1294
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,439
Speaker 6: Quitty Pay, but I think we've seen who Quitty Pay

1295
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 6: is and that's not and that's not a knock. I've

1296
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 6: always compared to him to Jabal share it and it's

1297
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 6: the ball was pretty good.

1298
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 4: He's just not that, which is not what you want

1299
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 4: from a first round right defensive end.

1300
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 6: And what it's going to take to resign him next year,

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Speaker 6: which probably won't happen. So, but they need one of

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Speaker 6: the past rushers to step up. Other than that, I

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00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 6: mean a receiver again, Mitchell, his his rookie season was

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00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 6: just not good. And you go back and look at

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00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 6: a lot of early draft pick rookie seasons weren't that great.

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00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 6: Reggie Wayne didn't really emerged until year three in part

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Speaker 6: because of Marvin Harrison and Peyton had a love affair

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Speaker 6: with Marvin Harrison where that's who he threw to.

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Speaker 3: But not a bad person to love in that assets.

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Speaker 6: No question. But I'm sure there were times Reggie felt

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Speaker 6: like he was a third wheel and he was. Uh

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Speaker 6: but but two or three players and I posted I

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Speaker 6: think you did something, Simmerar. I posted my most indispensable players,

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Speaker 6: and it's Bernard Ryman and Jonathan Taylor. And I'm trying

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Speaker 6: to think of the other guys I had.

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Speaker 3: I had Sire Franklin High. I know it might be

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Speaker 3: the minority of that.

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Speaker 6: He was my next group.

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Speaker 3: Look at the depth of that and that and that's.

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Speaker 6: Why, and that's also nearly making it was Braden Smith. Uh,

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Speaker 6: you know divorced Buck drag is a guy they have

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Speaker 6: a trouble playing without. Yeah, but uh again, I like

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00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 6: the roster. But we're going to get so tired of

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00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 6: talking about the quarterback play. But that's this again. This

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00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 6: is where everything's fall back to that. But they've got

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Speaker 6: some good areas and they got some good players. Michael

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Speaker 6: Pittman's going to be poised for a big season after

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Speaker 6: enduring his back issues last year, so very interesting season upcoming.

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Speaker 6: I hope that the quarterback thing is allowed to unfold

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Speaker 6: without any hitches. We don't even know right now. I

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Speaker 6: don't think whether ar is going to be fully ready

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Speaker 6: to go tomorrow. So you know he's been throwing, but

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Speaker 6: what's that mean? Right?

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Speaker 2: When is the fifty to fifty split rights my question?

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Speaker 6: Right? And until it does well, you know, Jones gets

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Speaker 6: a chance to continue to inch forward, so it'll be interesting.

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Speaker 6: And again this is this is preseason is short, thirteen

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Speaker 6: practices up here, the three games. I would hope think

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Speaker 6: that shame Stickin will know his starter after two preseason

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Speaker 6: games and then they can let Riley Leonard and Jason

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Speaker 6: Bean playing that third preseason the start is playing again,

1342
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Speaker 6: got you, but you got to know who it is.

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Speaker 6: These are two bad I understand consistent quarterbacks. They need

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Speaker 6: real game reps. I understand that.

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Speaker 3: If you got a new center too, I understand that.

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Speaker 6: But if you know who your guy is, if you know, it's.

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Speaker 2: Play him a half true to like a dress rehearsal.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I'll go, I'll go with that. But but then

1349
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 6: he goes out there and he gets hurt. And I'm

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Speaker 6: one of those I hate see a guy get dinged up.

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Speaker 6: But your point's very valid.

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Speaker 4: That's when you come back to Kevinis. I've done this

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Speaker 4: for forty plus years talking about.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I need a bow out of the go.

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01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 6: But again, no, your point's very valid, and you shouldn't

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01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 6: be in this position. You should know what you have

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Speaker 6: with Anthony Richardson. You don't. The highs are incredibly high.

1358
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Speaker 6: In the lows, you know, forty seven point seven percent completions,

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Speaker 6: that's that's totally unacceptable. Yeah, so, and we'll see Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 6: I'm curious when he had a good team around him

1361
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 6: in twenty twenty one. Was it they make they make

1362
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Speaker 6: the wild card and they won a wild card game

1363
01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 6: at Minnesota. I think it was so uh so, But

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Speaker 6: again he was dumbled for a reason, and uh that's

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Speaker 6: gonna be the overwriting storyline throughout camp and into the season.

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Speaker 6: But I hope we get a chance to write about

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Speaker 6: the rookies. Tyler Warren. I'm looking forward. We saw what

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Speaker 6: we did in the off season work and got he

1369
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 6: caught everything A three months ball all the time, and

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Speaker 6: he caught all the time. So really curious where they

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Speaker 6: finally got a tight end who can be productive. I

1372
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Speaker 6: mean not since Jack Doyleer they had a guy like that,

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Speaker 6: so very instant training camp.

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Speaker 2: You know that voice that is the legend the Beach

1375
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 2: Grove Hornets. He is Mike Chappel and he is live

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01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 2: with us here report day for Colts training Camp. Not

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01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 2: only Kenny the More, Kenny Moore the Second going to

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01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 2: join us.

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01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 6: Kenny Hey the.

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01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 3: More Jo needs a training camp.

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01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 2: Kenny Moore the Second will join us, and so will

1382
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 2: Josh Downs a little bit later in the show. So

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01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 2: check both of those out live with us here in

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01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 2: Westfield chap Thank.

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01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 3: You and Mark Dyketon. Let's go ahead and hit the morning.

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Speaker 6: Thanks guys,