1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:01,480 Speaker 1: Hello, all my friends. 2 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 2: This is Brett Michaels and you're listening to my friends 3 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 2: right here, Hammer and Nigel, and they're about to rock 4 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 2: your world? 5 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:15,239 Speaker 3: Are you argu argu this? 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 4: Are you that? 7 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 5: A special Thanksgiving edition of Arguments? 8 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 3: Do it? 9 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 5: Joining us as always radio legend the man behind the 10 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 5: phrase bargaments, Dan base Levy, what's up, my friend. 11 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 2: Gentlemen, I am thankful for you guys. That's sweet. 12 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, now I feel really weird. 13 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 3: Based does radio in Chicago. How's it going up there? 14 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 3: My friend? 15 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 2: It's a little chilly up here. What's going is going lovely? 16 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 3: Okay? 17 00:00:55,280 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 5: So this is our final Arguments until Thanksgiving. Oh, let's 18 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 5: do a special Thanksgiving theme here, Dan, you brought a 19 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 5: topic to the table, Go ahead and tell us what 20 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 5: it is. 21 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 2: First and foremost. I do a thing called barguments where 22 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 2: we argue a lot of things like this, and I 23 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: have a podcast and I get even watch it on YouTube. 24 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: It's called Barguments on Facebook groups pretty active as well. 25 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: And for this week, because we're going into one of 26 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 2: my favorite holidays, the best holiday of Thanksgiving. The question 27 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 2: and the bargament that's giving lobbed up to you guys, 28 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 2: what is the most overrated dish on Thanksgiving? 29 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 5: Most overrated dish on the Thanksgiving table? Now, Dan, maybe 30 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 5: I'm looking too much into this, Like I'm treating this 31 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 5: like the SATs. For something to be overrated, it has 32 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 5: to be rated in the first place, right, So it's 33 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 5: got to be something that a lot of people probably 34 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 5: get into but you personally have a problem with. 35 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 2: Well. To be honest, this is definitely the things that 36 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: you would see on everythingsgiving table. So not like you 37 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: don't bomb's special stuffings, sausage or whatever, but what everybody 38 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 2: would know to be on a Thanksgiving table. And the 39 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: one that I would say is overrated. I try it 40 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 2: every year hoping it'll be a little bit better, and 41 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: it just isn't. Is the green bean casserole. 42 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 5: Oh oh wow, not a casserole guy, are you No? 43 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 2: I like casse roles, but it's mostly can ingredients. The 44 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 2: texture is mushed, it's bland. Nobody ever really eats it, and. 45 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 3: It's just base. Do you have like I like green 46 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 3: bean casserole? My wife makes it with the crispy fried onions. 47 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 2: That are My wife doesn't too. I help her make 48 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 2: it every year. The double batch for a family. Yeah, 49 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 2: if you want to try it, I go absolutely not. 50 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 3: Wow, my wife's just made it the other day. Krispy 51 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 3: Fried onions are what I think. That's the That's like 52 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 3: the cherry on the on the cake, so to speak, 53 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 3: on top of the ice cream. Is the crispy right 54 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 3: onions for me? But I guess it's lost for you. 55 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter for you. 56 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 2: All the ingredients on their own. I love those little 57 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 2: Crispy ideas. Just I get stack on those things out 58 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 2: of thought. I do enjoy greeny. It's just you mush 59 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: it all together and it looks like something that they 60 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 2: serve in prison. 61 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 5: Dan, This quick impromptu Hammer and Nigel record song is 62 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 5: for you, Kurt. Get ready to drop that beat when 63 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 5: I tell you, Turkey. 64 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: Gravy beans and roll, let me see the castle roll. 65 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: Come on, turn it out, Turkey gravy beans and roll. 66 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 3: Let me see the castle roll. 67 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 5: So Dan, Dan is out on the green bean castle roll. 68 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 5: All right. Allison is out today. She's celebrating her birthday. 69 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 5: She's a little hungover, I believe from last night. So 70 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 5: Kurt is filling in. Kurt, jump in the mix. 71 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 3: Here. 72 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 5: We got bargainments going on. Overrated Thanksgiving item. 73 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 6: Okay, this is my second time doing this with Dan, 74 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 6: and I lost a lot of respect with that green 75 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 6: bean castrole comment. I'm just gonna be honest. 76 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 2: Stick around, I can't have it and left. 77 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 6: So I'm going with rolls. You're telling me, yes, you 78 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 6: show up to Thanksgiving and the first thing you're thinking like, 79 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 6: I can't wait to put a roll on my plate. 80 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 3: No, yeah, you're not slather that sucker with butter. 81 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 5: You don't fill up on bread when there's turkey and 82 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 5: pie and mashed potatoes and mac and cheese and deviled 83 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 5: eggs and all that stuff out. 84 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 6: There right right exactly. Unless're talking about King's Hawaiian roll. 85 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 6: But that's not I'm talking about those rolls that you 86 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 6: bake and they get hard. What's the point of rolls? 87 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 6: You get all these other delect. 88 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 2: You have little little delicious sliders of all the things 89 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 2: great that's. 90 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 6: Being cast roll on it? 91 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 2: All right? 92 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 3: So that's I mean, rolls is a staple. 93 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 2: This argument's got a shadow of something a little higher 94 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 2: like cave. 95 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 5: For today's I'm gonna jump in the mix here most 96 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 5: overrated item, I'm gonna give you a musical clue. Okay, Kirk. 97 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 5: The cranberries, that's right, damn right. Cranberry sauce, cranberry juice. 98 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 5: The whole thing stinks. It all stinks, especially when it 99 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 5: comes out of that can and it just looks like 100 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 5: a big PLoP up, it just comes out. 101 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 2: I'm with you, okay, So so that kind of texture 102 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 2: doesn't do it for you. But the greenby Castle. 103 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 5: At least the beans are healthy. Dan, it's a vegetable. 104 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 5: I'm getting something to offset the deviled eggs that I've 105 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 5: been putting in my belly for three hours. Cranberry I 106 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 5: don't even know what it is. It's like some sort 107 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 5: of weird jello hybrid and it just pops out and 108 00:05:58,200 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 5: it stands up on its own. 109 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: Uh not for me though, I mean you're eating all 110 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 2: that you know, savory, that's salty, that turkey and all 111 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 2: that stuff. The kraberry just give it like that. It's 112 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 2: like a palate cleanser, like something pal. 113 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 3: What are you doing like a flight of whiskey tastings. 114 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 3: You need a palate cleanser for every different. 115 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 5: After the gravy and pumpkin pie, I really need a 116 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 5: palate cleanser. This is where the cranberries come in all, 117 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 5: All right. 118 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 3: I got one for you here. I have never in 119 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 3: my life liked stuffing. 120 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 5: Oh, come on, it's so gross. It's a National stuffing 121 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 5: Day today. 122 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 3: It looks like Bourgers. It's a bowl full of Bourgers, soggy, 123 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 3: mushy texture. It looks like it like squishy bread has 124 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 3: been left out in the rain. 125 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 5: You're in Akita, that's what you are. 126 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 4: You're in al Kaita like and you know, I like 127 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 4: like I've tried to eat it before, and my gag 128 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 4: reflex is like, you know, my gag reflex hammer you know, 129 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 4: I'm I'm a puker on this show many times. 130 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 3: And and for the for God's sake, stuffing is so 131 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 3: dry and bland that you have to add seasoned salt 132 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 3: and thick gravy on it. No, you don't have to. 133 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 5: You get to. 134 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 4: Counterpoint take Oh yeah. 135 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 2: The white Castle stuffing will change that. It is not 136 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 2: dry at all. They are amazing. Now. 137 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 5: I'm a traditional stuffing guy. I don't like the oyster stuffing. 138 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 5: Some people put the oyster in the stuff and I'm 139 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 5: not with that. I'm not an oyster guy. But I 140 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 5: can get down with some some stove top or even 141 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 5: some homemade stuffing. 142 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 3: I'm in I'll just replace it with mashed potatoes or 143 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 3: green bean cast role that I don't need. I don't 144 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 3: need stuffing. I don't need stuffing. 145 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 5: And by the way, I'm looking at the YouTube chat here, Dan, 146 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 5: back me up. There's a special place in Guantanamo for 147 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 5: the people that say the turkey is overrated. I'm sorry, 148 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 5: but it's Thanksgiving. 149 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 2: Thanksgiving. 150 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 5: You you have turkey on Thanksgiving. When my kids were little, 151 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 5: my youngest one year asked for pizza on Thanksgiving, and 152 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 5: then my oldest, who I think was like nine at 153 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 5: the time, just teed off on him. No, you eat 154 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 5: turkey on Thanksgiving. We're not having your radical dude food, Jacob. 155 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 5: You eat turkey, and you shut the hell up. 156 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: These are also the same people that want, like, what 157 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 2: do you want for lunch? All the turkey sandwich like 158 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 2: they want to process that they all have the actual turkey. 159 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 3: Final question, though, what about ham ham on Thanksgiving? 160 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 5: No? 161 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 3: No, oh, I just heard I think Dan said. 162 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: He loved it. In addition to okay, yeah. 163 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 5: Right, there's got to be a turkey out there too. 164 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 5: If you want to have I don't care if you 165 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 5: want to have chicken, wings out there, a bucket of 166 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 5: the kernel, that's fine, but there better be a turkey 167 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 5: somewhere on Thanksgiving. I remember when Tony Katz tried to 168 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 5: win us over on some egg plant palm crap on Thanksgiving? 169 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 2: Remember that held giblets better be on that table. 170 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, that was his hot take. Egg Plant parm is 171 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 5: so much better than turkey. Why don't you go sit 172 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 5: at the kids table, Tony, go spin around with fingers malloy, 173 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 5: and leave Thanksgiving to the rest of us. All right, Uh, 174 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 5: where can we find more bargaments? My friend? 175 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 2: Like this, which I gotta tell you I did not 176 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 2: I did not expect it to be this explosive. On 177 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 2: anywhere you download your podcast is on YouTube if you 178 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 2: want to watch it, and on Facebook you have a 179 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 2: bargaments page that is just constantly serving up arguments like 180 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 2: this that you can get on anytime you want to 181 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 2: the day. It's a great time. I appreciate you guys 182 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 2: having me on have Avery Thanksgiving. All the great began 183 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 2: cats are all sending your way. 184 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, buddy, we appreciate it. 185 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 5: It's the Hammer and Nigel Show.