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Speaker 1: Exactly that right, So, yes, there are a ga billion

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Speaker 8: By the way, they ran two more high safeties than

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Speaker 8: And it's not like Pittsburgh's any slouch. Like you look

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Speaker 8: Were the Pacers the higher seat against New York last year?

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Speaker 1: still may be, in fact, the best team in all

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Speaker 1: of college football, and they find new ways to exert

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Speaker 1: their will. Don Fisher is the voice of the Indiana Hoosiers.

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Speaker 1: Joins us next. It is that, and it's you know,

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Speaker 1: it's funny. It's been a long time, if ever, really

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Speaker 1: where we have been able to say for Indiana University Athletics, like, man,

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Speaker 1: what a beautiful time of year because football and basketball

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Speaker 1: season both in swing. You know, usually it's thank goodness

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Speaker 1: the basketball season is here and we can hand it

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Speaker 1: off from football into basketball. But that obviously has changed

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Speaker 1: now under the Kurtz Signett era in Bloomington. And that's

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Speaker 1: not to say there have not been seasons and you know,

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Speaker 1: the Bill Mallory era of optimism, but nothing like this

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Speaker 1: with Indiana stay in the course and winning fifty five

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Speaker 1: to ten over Maryland on over the weekend. Still now unblemished.

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Speaker 1: They are nine to oh they've got a big one

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Speaker 1: at Penn State. And from the basketball side of things

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Speaker 1: that Darren Debries coaches show the debut of that, I

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Speaker 1: believe it's the debut of it tonight. It will air

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Speaker 1: after the Pacers game with Don Fisher, who joins us

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Speaker 1: now on the Java House Peel and poor guest line Don.

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Speaker 1: It is a pretty darn good time to be the

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Speaker 1: voice of the Hoosiers for both sports.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. There's no doubt about that. Football is

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Speaker 2: just spectacular and basketball is about to begin. And I

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Speaker 2: think who's your nation as a waiting to see what

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Speaker 2: Indiana is going to look like against the competition that

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Speaker 2: they're about to face in Alabama and m will be

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Speaker 2: the first attempt at winning a ballgame on Wednesday at home,

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Speaker 2: and then they go to Chicago. They'll play Marquette, a

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Speaker 2: very good basketball team out of Shaka Smart and they're

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Speaker 2: kind of retooling a little bit too, from three or

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Speaker 2: four guys that played their final games last year for Marquette.

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Speaker 2: But it's an interesting week to say the least, and

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Speaker 2: it's gotten it's going to be really busy here for

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Speaker 2: the month of November with both football and basketball going strong.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Don, let's begin with from the football all side

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Speaker 1: of things. And I wanted to touch on something a

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Speaker 1: little bit away from the actual game itself against Maryland

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Speaker 1: and then when we get ready to talk about Penn State.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I saw a clip from your Coaches

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Speaker 1: Show with Kurt Signetti from this past week in just

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Speaker 1: and I wanted you to kind of elaborate on this

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Speaker 1: for Indiana fans. You had asked Kurt Signetti about just

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Speaker 1: what it means to kind of be able to have

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Speaker 1: this program clicking on all cylinders the way it is

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Speaker 1: for the state and for the fans of Indiana and

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Speaker 1: for IU fans, and the pride that people have in it.

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Speaker 1: And it was interesting to me because Kurt Signetti not

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Speaker 1: being a guy obviously that is rooted in the area,

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Speaker 1: but man, the guy just seems to get it. And

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Speaker 1: I could tell when you asked the question his face

485
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Speaker 1: kind of lit up with this pride and excitement about

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Speaker 1: being able to represent the who's your fan base? Can

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Speaker 1: you elaborate just on his overall vibe with that and

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Speaker 1: the discussion you guys had, well, I think the.

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Speaker 2: Biggest thing for about Indiana football is this. And when

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Speaker 2: he got here, as you know, this program was going

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Speaker 2: nowhere at that point, and he had the light of

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Speaker 2: fire under the fan base because the fan base has

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Speaker 2: been used to losing all these years.

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Speaker 1: And I say that.

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Speaker 2: Because since nineteen ninety four, Indiana's had three winning seasons.

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Speaker 2: Prior to last year, and they were intermittent at best. Yeah,

497
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Speaker 2: they went to a couple of Bowl games with six

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Speaker 2: and six teams, that kind of thing, but nowhere near

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Speaker 2: the kind of success that Indiana is having now. And

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Speaker 2: he knew that this program needed a kick in the butt,

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Speaker 2: especially from a fan base perspective, and that's why he

502
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Speaker 2: was pretty outspoken and pretty rabadoish, if you know what

503
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Speaker 2: I'm saying in regard to the things he said last year.

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Speaker 2: He wanted people to understand, this is not the same

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Speaker 2: Indiana that you are used to seeing. And I think

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Speaker 2: the fan base, says, as electrified as they've become, didn't

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Speaker 2: recognize that right away, but they bought into it, you know,

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Speaker 2: maybe four games into the season last year, and from

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Speaker 2: that point forward, it's been basically sellouts for every ball

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Speaker 2: game and a fan base that has you know, obviously

511
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Speaker 2: engulfed themselves with the excitement of Indiana football. And I

512
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Speaker 2: think that that part of it for him is huge, because,

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Speaker 2: like I said, when he got here, there was no

514
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Speaker 2: interest in football, and obviously he put the kicked in

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Speaker 2: the pants on the very first thing he said to

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Speaker 2: a crowd at our Maryland basketball game that night, and

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Speaker 2: ever since then, Katie bar the door because Indiana football

518
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Speaker 2: has become something special now.

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Speaker 1: In the game on Saturday against Maryland, Don Fisher, the

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Speaker 1: voice of the Hoosiers, our guest Java House Peel and

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Speaker 1: poor guest line Elijah Suratt was injured early in that game.

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Speaker 1: We know it was a leg injury. Don, I have

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Speaker 1: not heard any more specific or anything beyond that. Is

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Speaker 1: there any information you can tell us about the injury

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Speaker 1: to their star receiver.

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Speaker 2: I do not know. I can't answer that question. I

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Speaker 2: didn't go to the presser today because I've got the

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Speaker 2: talk show tonight and I've got a whole bunch of

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Speaker 2: work to get done before Wednesday for our next basketball game,

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Speaker 2: plus a coaches show for football on Thursday, So I

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Speaker 2: didn't make the presser today. I don't know if he

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Speaker 2: said anything in that press conference in regard to Elijah's scenario,

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Speaker 2: I think they put took him out of the ballgame.

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Speaker 2: I think precautionary reasons, much like they did Aiden Fisher

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Speaker 2: last week, and then Aiden of course did not play

536
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Speaker 2: against Maryland. So again he was dressed, but never had

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Speaker 2: a helmet on that I can remember seeing. So I

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Speaker 2: think everything from this point is a cautionary type thing.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure that there's aside from Drew Evans, I

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Speaker 2: think he's going to be out for another week or two,

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Speaker 2: maybe even longer than that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Much like last year, he got hurt late in the

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Speaker 2: season if you remember, and he was unavailable for the

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Speaker 2: rest of the year. I don't know that that's the

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Speaker 2: case for with him this year, But it sounds like

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Speaker 2: it's more than a week to week thing, maybe two

548
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Speaker 2: or three weeks before we actually know what his status

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Speaker 2: is going to be. So injuries are starting to play

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Speaker 2: a factor with this football team. I don't think there's

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Speaker 2: much question about that. Elijah Surat is huge for this

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Speaker 2: football team, as you know, and he has had a tremendous,

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Speaker 2: tremendous year. I think he's in the neighborhood of forty

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Speaker 2: eight or something like that games now where he's had

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Speaker 2: a catch in ballgames through his career at James Madison

556
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Speaker 2: and of course here at Indiana. He's spectacular, but the

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Speaker 2: cover's not bear at the wide receiver position. Charlie Becker

558
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Speaker 2: came in last week. I thought he played very well

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Speaker 2: in the ballgame. He blocked really well, he made some

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Speaker 2: critical catches at different times. And of course they've got

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Speaker 2: Omar Cooper. They got a kid named Lebron Bond who's

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Speaker 2: a freshman that has looked very good, and fall practices

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Speaker 2: and spring practices as well.

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Speaker 9: So.

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Speaker 2: They can take their time with these guys as well.

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Speaker 2: I guess I'm telling you is that the legas Serrat

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Speaker 2: if he isn't phill goal coming up this week, he

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Speaker 2: will not play. I guarantee you that he will be

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Speaker 2: kept out of that lineup until he feels like he's

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent or is one hundred percent. So at

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Speaker 2: this juncture, injuries are starting to play a little bit

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Speaker 2: of a factor with this football team. It gives you

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Speaker 2: a little bit and maybe not quite the depth that

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Speaker 2: you had previously. But at this juncture, I think most

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Speaker 2: of these injuries are not season ending or anything like that.

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Speaker 2: So that's the good news.

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Speaker 1: The SLEWT thing of Eddie Garrison tells us that Sarat

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Speaker 1: has a hamstring injury, is listed as day to day

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Speaker 1: and is probable. Did you say Eddie for the Penn

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Speaker 1: State game.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Signetti said today Don that he is day to day.

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Speaker 8: Aiden Fishery's very optimistic. Then that was a direct quote

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Speaker 8: from Signetti about returning this week.

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Speaker 9: Don.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to go back to what you touched on

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Speaker 1: the fact that you know, Frenanda Mendoza still was able

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Speaker 1: to throw it around to eight different receivers I think

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Speaker 1: over the course of that game, and you know how

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Speaker 1: much of that is not just the depth at the

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Speaker 1: receiver position, but also the ability of the quarterback over

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Speaker 1: the course of the year to have vision, to go

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Speaker 1: through reads, to incorporate different guys. You know, a third

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Speaker 1: down catch by a guy in a twenty eight point

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Speaker 1: game might not seem like much until you need a

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Speaker 1: first down catch from that guy in a close game

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Speaker 1: in the third quarter when it really matters. And to me,

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Speaker 1: Mendoza's ability to get everybody involved over the course leading

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Speaker 1: up to this point is a big part of the

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Speaker 1: depth at the receiver position that we're seeing now. Would

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Speaker 1: you agree with that?

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Speaker 10: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. I mean that's a big part of any passing

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Speaker 2: game is the ability for the quarterback to make the

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Speaker 2: reads and make the right decisions as to who to

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Speaker 2: go to and then be accurate with his throws. And

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Speaker 2: I think Fernando's done a remarkably good job of that.

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Speaker 2: I think, you know, when I watched him in the spring,

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Speaker 2: I still thought he had some very happy feed out

609
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Speaker 2: there because of the lack of protection that he had

610
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Speaker 2: at California coming in forty seven sacks. I think he

611
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Speaker 2: suffered last year, but he has dramatically improved that area.

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Speaker 2: I don't see that happy feet stuff at all anymore.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that he can set his feet on

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Speaker 2: every throw, because obviously the other team has people rushing

615
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 2: you and things like that. That happens now and then.

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Speaker 2: But Indiana's done a great job of protecting him. I

617
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Speaker 2: think he's got full confidence right now and what he's

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Speaker 2: doing out there, and he sees the field really well.

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Speaker 2: Curtis Rourick I thought was the best I've ever seen

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Speaker 2: at Indiana and making the right decisions on throws and

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Speaker 2: those kinds of things consistently. He almost never made a

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Speaker 2: mistake last year. Fernando's made a few, but nothing near

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Speaker 2: what we've seen over the years in Indiana. We've had

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Speaker 2: really good quarterbacks a lot of the time, and that's

625
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Speaker 2: been probably the only spot where we had really good

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Speaker 2: people doing what they were supposed to be doing. But

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Speaker 2: the whole thing boils down to this right now, Well,

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Speaker 2: Fernando is playing extremely well. He is obviously one of

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Speaker 2: those guys that the NFL is looking at very strongly

630
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Speaker 2: and certainly a Heisman Trophy candidate at this point. So

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Speaker 2: the things that he's doing out there are the right things,

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what, don they have the same

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Speaker 1: at least seemingly, Indiana seems to have the same level

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Speaker 1: of depth in their running back room. I mean, it

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Speaker 1: seems like each time, as I'm listening to you and Buck,

637
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Speaker 1: like each time a different guys getting the ball. They're

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Speaker 1: getting big time runs. This offense to me, just appears

639
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Speaker 1: to be as dangerous as any obviously in college football.

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Speaker 1: But can you touch on or can you elaborate on

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Speaker 1: their ability to go two to three to four deep

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Speaker 1: and the running game and seemingly not drop off in production.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's pretty much a hallmark of what Kurt Signetti

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Speaker 2: has had in his career. At least at James Madison

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Speaker 2: and here at Indiana, or at least two or three

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Speaker 2: or maybe even four running backs they can count on

647
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Speaker 2: and they can go to any one of those guys

648
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Speaker 2: and the production doesn't seem to tail off. I mean,

649
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Speaker 2: Kobe Martin comes in in the ballgame on Saturday again

650
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Speaker 2: and runs rough shot. Every time he carried the football,

651
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Speaker 2: he was gaining big yards. He was terrific in that ballgame,

652
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 2: as was the other guys that played. And that includes

653
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Speaker 2: Solomon Van Horse who got a couple of good carries

654
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: in the ballgame as well. But Roman himby has been

655
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 2: terrific this year. Kaylon Black is the best I've ever

656
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 2: seen him. I've watched him last year. I thought he

657
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 2: did a nice job last year, but he wasn't a

658
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 2: superstar out there because they had Kaysan Lawton and of

659
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 2: course Justice Ellison were the key guys last season. But

660
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 2: kurtsey Netty likes to use at least two or three

661
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: backs in every ballgame if he can, and he's been

662
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 2: able to do that at Indiana since he's been here.

663
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, They've got great depth at the running back position.

664
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Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that. The Martin kid, I think

665
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 2: is going to be special at some point. He's a

666
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 2: red shirt freshman this year. When he played last year

667
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 2: in the four games he played in so that he

668
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 2: did deserve a red shirt, so he could get a

669
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,919
Speaker 2: red shirt for the rest of the season. But every

670
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 2: time he played, he produced. And he's doing exactly the

671
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 2: same thing this year and is in that mop up

672
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 2: role and it hasn't really mattered who the offensive linemen

673
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 2: have been out there in front of him. He's still

674
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: able to gain yards. So they've got a really good

675
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 2: bevy of running backs. That running back room is as

676
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Speaker 2: deep as any in the Big Ten, no question.

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Speaker 1: Don Fisher our guest voice of the Hoosiers in both

678
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: football and basketball. He's on the Java House peeling poor

679
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,760
Speaker 1: guest line. So in conclusion, Don, let's switch to basketball

680
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: real quick again. Darren Dereese coaches show tonight this radio

681
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: station right after the Pacers Bucks game, and Don, I'm

682
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: going to be Wednesday night, I'm coming down to the

683
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 1: game and let me explain. Doctor Eugene White was my

684
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: high school principal at North Central. He is the one that, oh,

685
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, a year and a half ago or

686
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: so reached out to me and said, hey, I want

687
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Speaker 1: to teach you how to go. So he's had the

688
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: painstaking duty of being not only an educator for me

689
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,720
Speaker 1: but also my golf coach. Okay, so when we're golfing,

690
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 1: what that means is because I'm terrible. So he's constantly

691
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: having to put his head on a swivel of not

692
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: knowing where the ball is going to go. He played

693
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Speaker 1: basketball at Alabama A and M. That's Indiana's foe on Wednesday,

694
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Speaker 1: so we're going down to the game together. I've got

695
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: a feeling this is going to be good practice for

696
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: him because this Indiana basketball offense. Also, you've got to

697
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: have your head on swivel because the ball moves around quickly.

698
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 2: Is that fair to say, Oh, it's fair to say.

699
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: There's a little question about that. This ball does not

700
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 2: stick very often. It is been quite evant in the

701
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 2: three games in Puerto Rico and the two exhibition ball

702
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 2: games we've seen here to get the season underway, and

703
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 2: of course it'll be officially underway on Wednesday. So no,

704
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 2: the ball doesn't stick and they move it extremely well.

705
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 2: These guys are unselfish. They love to take the three

706
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 2: point shot if they can get it in the early

707
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 2: part of the shot clock, and if they can't, then

708
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 2: they set it up in the half court. But they're

709
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 2: not afraid to shoot the three. And there's nobody on

710
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 2: this roster that they're afraid to have shoot the three.

711
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 2: Not that all of them are great three point shooters,

712
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Speaker 2: but you know what I'm saying is that they've got

713
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 2: more now than they've had maybe in total, over the

714
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 2: last four to eight years from a three point perspective.

715
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 2: So this team loves to shoot the basketball, and Darren

716
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 2: devrez loves him to loves them to shoot the basketball.

717
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 2: So they've got a combination there that works pretty well.

718
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 2: But the good news is they don't take a lot

719
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 2: of bad three point shots. There's a couple every now

720
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Speaker 2: and then. Lamar Wilkers was out there about thirty feet

721
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 2: a couple of times in that first exhibition game and

722
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,720
Speaker 2: let it fly, as was Tucker Devreese. But honest to goodness,

723
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 2: they usually when they do that, they usually get a

724
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 2: good shot off, and it's not like they're not hitting

725
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 2: most of them. So it's really fun to watch It's

726
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 2: a different kind of basketball than Indiana fans have been

727
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 2: used to over the last four to eight years, and

728
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 2: I think they're going to absolutely fall in love with

729
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 2: what Darren de Breese puts on the court.

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00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I've talked to Don a couple of different

731
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: you know, coaches or just people around college basketball that

732
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: have known Debrees or at least you know, competed against them,

733
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: that have said, you know, he is a very deliberate coach.

734
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: And by that, I mean they've got a ton of

735
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: respect for his approach and his ability to deliver to

736
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: his team what he once done and making sure that

737
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: they're tactical and that they are precise. So I think

738
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 1: people are going to enjoy it. It's going to be fun.

739
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: It's going to be intriguing to begin and that's why

740
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: Wednesday will be so much fun to listen to as well. Don.

741
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: By the way, they use some of your audio on

742
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 1: the television broadcast. You hear about that on Saturday. Yeah,

743
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: I guess they have this.

744
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 2: I guess CBS when they do a game, they have

745
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 2: the play of the game and they play the radio

746
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 2: broadcast of whoever they think had the best call or

747
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 2: whatever the case. May be, and I've had three opportunities,

748
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 2: I guess this year the CBS a bat regards, so

749
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,919
Speaker 2: it's it's been a but here's the thing, you find

750
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: have something to get excited about.

751
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:03,280
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

752
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 2: And without doubt that's a big part of it too.

753
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 2: And obviously the Hoosier Nations loving every second of this.

754
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 2: As we watch Indiana football, you know, head for the moon,

755
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 2: because that's exactly what they're doing with this program right now.

756
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: They were very complimentary of your call, and rightly so.

757
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: Don Fisher, the voice of the Hoosiers, appreciate it as

758
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: always down We'll see on Wednesday.

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00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 2: All right, thanks for having me, guys, appreciate it.

760
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Speaker 1: Don Fisher, the Voice of the Hoosiers. We come back,

761
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 1: I will read you. So there were some really good ones.

762
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 1: Some of the comments. Nine words are fewer on the

763
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Speaker 1: Colts through nine games, and Mike Chappell will join us

764
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 1: in twelve. You know, Eddie, Sometimes I have to chuckle

765
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: to myself because we put our headsets on when we

766
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: come back and it's just the two of us, and

767
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: then I think to myself, why am I wearing the headsets?

768
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Speaker 1: You're sitting right here you're right across from me.

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00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 8: Well, it makes sense for me to have my head

770
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Speaker 8: phones on to make sure that audio going out set, Yes,

771
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 8: to make sure, yeah, the headset for me to put

772
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 8: it on over here. Yeah, make sure you're going out

773
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 8: over the radio. You can't have dead air, you know.

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00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: Once again, yesterday, Shannon, I this has become like our

775
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: Sunday morning thing. We went to the Java House in Broaderpool. Yeah,

776
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:23,439
Speaker 1: and I mean I get it. It fascinates me though,

777
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: because it just was a world that wasn't really a

778
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: part of my world when I was twenty five. But

779
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 1: the number of like people in their twenties that are

780
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 1: sitting with one another and they have I noticed nobody

781
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: wears air pods anymore. Everybody has the big ear muff headsets.

782
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:43,760
Speaker 1: Is the headphones the headphones? Yeah, like headphones. Yeah yeah,

783
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 1: and so but every literally they everyone has a laptop. Yeah,

784
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:51,919
Speaker 1: I've got to be the only person on the planet.

785
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I have a laptop, but I my phone

786
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: works as a laptop. I just use that for the

787
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: vast majority of things, right, you.

788
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 8: Know, it just kind of depends on what you're doing. Jake,

789
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 8: are you working on you know work, You're working on,

790
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 8: you know, homework for school. You're a student working on creating.

791
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: Finish your teacher. When I went back to school to

792
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: finish my degree, I did have to use the laptop

793
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: a lot for that, for sure, but I use my

794
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 1: It is funny though. My phone is like a computer

795
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,439
Speaker 1: to me for the most part. All right, I asked

796
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: yesterday on my phone, by the way, in nine words

797
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: or fewer your thoughts on the twenty twenty five colts

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00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: through nine games.

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Speaker 8: I thought one of them was funny Jake, because they

800
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 8: were talking about how, hey, look, that's nine words and

801
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 8: it was ten.

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00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: Okay. This from Jim, are the Colts really legit? Upcoming

803
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: schedule will tell that is hard to argue that, right,

804
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: Bill from the Penthouse to the Outhouse. I like this

805
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: one from Michael. How about six words turnover, turnover, turnover, turnover, turnover, turnover, Yes,

806
00:42:53,680 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: lots of turnovers. Right? This from Matthew, you're allowing too

807
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: many words? Still elite now? Chris has a good one.

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00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: Chris Colby, he said, this is a nine word Hiku total apathy.

809
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: I haven't watched one minute. The NFL sucks. Well, Chris

810
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like he's totally in, but I like the

811
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: fact that he did it as a.

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00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 8: High see that that was one of them. That's ten.

813
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 8: That's ten.

814
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: Total apathy. That's two. I haven't watched one minute. That's

815
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: five seven. Oh, you're right, that's ten. Should have dropped

816
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: out the Come on, Chris, if you're gonna do a hiku,

817
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: follow directions Adam well Son of them. This is a

818
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 1: good one from Dave, my buddy that lives in British Columbia.

819
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: Chuck it in the trash on to next week, pleasant surprise.

820
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 1: Been a fun season.

821
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Speaker 8: Someone replied to your tweet and asked until Rock on Twitter.

822
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: I saw that this is great rock.

823
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 8: Turnovers doomed the Colts strong start, but seven to two

824
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 8: keeps them contenders.

825
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: Is that nine words by Rock? If that's impressive. I

826
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 1: did a really good one, a really good one that

827
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Speaker 1: came in and then Chapel's gonna join us here on

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Speaker 1: the other side. We'll read more of these later as well,

829
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: but this was a really good one, and Stephen Holder

830
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: kind of played off of this in his piece as well,

831
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: so I thought, Okay, maybe it wasn't as original as

832
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: I thought, but I still from Jay Matters pumpkins go

833
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: bad in November. That's a question. Are they the pumpkin?

834
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: Or was it a bump in the road. Was it

835
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: midnight for the Colts or is there still a fairy

836
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: tale to continue well after.

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Speaker 8: I hope they're not one of the leaves Jake when

838
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 8: it becomes fall, the.

839
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: Wet leaves right now? Ye know? Well? No, Actually, what

840
00:44:55,440 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: you gotta hope is that Atlanta or Kansas City, or

841
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: Houston or Jacksonville don't become a wet lead because they

842
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: are very slippery and can be toxic. Colts yesterday, are

843
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: they too legit to quit? They're gonna get a quick

844
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: chance of a turnaround here with the Atlanta Falcons coming

845
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: up in Germany. Uh, that means I think on Friday

846
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: nothing but German music? Right?

847
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 8: Is that the case?

848
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 1: Che gud and dog.

849
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 8: I think somebody from the Colts is joining us tomorrow

850
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 8: to explain everything that's going on and how this all

851
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 8: got you know, situated.

852
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: How much German do you know? None? I'm kind of

853
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,760
Speaker 1: like Vaal Kilmer in Top Secret. I know a little

854
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 1: German and he's over there. Little guy stands up in

855
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: waves in the restaurant, and so Terrek joke that only

856
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 1: a few will get. But if you did, you're laughing.

857
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna be in Germany the week after that, right,

858
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 1: But they're in Frankfurt, right, No, they're in Berlin. Berlin,

859
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 1: that's what Frankfort's where they played last time. That's right,

860
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: and I'll be in Munich. But the Colts and Falcons

861
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: now they're coming off of, obviously a game against Pittsburgh

862
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: that can go one of two ways in terms of

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00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: your perception of it. Joining us now on the Java

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Speaker 1: House Peel Andport guest line. He is with WXI in

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Speaker 1: Fox fifty nine and CBS four Mike Chapel. Chap I'll

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Speaker 1: begin with this yesterday in terms of just the overall

867
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Speaker 1: collapse of taking care of the football. Did you chalk

868
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Speaker 1: that up as sometimes the sky just falls in on

869
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: you or schematically? Did Pittsburgh do something to exploit an

870
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Speaker 1: area of the Colts offensive line that others? Did they

871
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: crack a code so to speak, that others can now

872
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Speaker 1: take advantage of?

873
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Speaker 11: Well, yeah, as long as you've got TJ. Watt and

874
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Speaker 11: Alex high Smith and Hayward in the middle, So it's personnel,

875
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 11: and there's no question that was the worst offensive line

876
00:46:54,440 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 11: performance of the year, probably by a good lot. Was

877
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Speaker 11: it four sacks and a deflection for an interception and

878
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Speaker 11: in the other interception might one of them might have

879
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Speaker 11: been pressure a pressure interception. If you can't protect the quarterback,

880
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Speaker 11: you have no chance.

881
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: That's all.

882
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 11: We always talk about the value of Bernard Reigman. I

883
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 11: realized he had a tough game and had some up

884
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Speaker 11: and downs this year. If you can't is it a

885
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Speaker 11: one off or is this a serious? Is this an issue? Well,

886
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 11: we'll know. We won't know until Atlanta and then the

887
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Speaker 11: second half of the season after the buy, So as

888
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 11: we sit here today, in my mind it was a

889
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Speaker 11: one off. Are you gonna put more weight on that

890
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 11: one game or the eight before that? I would put

891
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 11: more weight on the eight before that. I realized there

892
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 11: was some ify competition early, but at least they went

893
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Speaker 11: out and smoked the competition. So we won't know until

894
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Speaker 11: they bounce back or don't from this, and I kind

895
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Speaker 11: of think it was a wad off. I trust what

896
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Speaker 11: they've done because of the way they've done it, but

897
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Speaker 11: if you can't protect the quarterback that Daniel Jones had

898
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Speaker 11: to have f lifebacks to the Giants because he had

899
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 11: very little time and a lot of times in the

900
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 11: past he's gotten rid of the ball quicker. Maybe the

901
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 11: receivers weren't getting opened quite as quick as they needed to,

902
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 11: But we saw how any quarterback acts performs when their

903
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 11: protection is leaky. And beyond leaky, I mean Patrick Mahomes

904
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 11: has not played well when his line has failed him.

905
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 11: So it starts up front. Every time that they've won

906
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Speaker 11: this year and played well, well, you know the offensive

907
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 11: line did his offensive line did that. That's fine, and

908
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 11: then when it doesn't play well, this is what might happen.

909
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: Chap, did you think over the course of the game,

910
00:48:56,080 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: do we blame Shane Steichen for not getting Jonathan tay

911
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: other more involved or was that simply a coach that

912
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: looked at it and schematically knew that whatever they came

913
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 1: up with was not going to change the way the

914
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Speaker 1: line was getting manhandled.

915
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Speaker 11: Yeah, I thought he should have run more in the

916
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Speaker 11: first half, but that's not what they've done this year.

917
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 11: They've they've roughly thrown the ball sixty percent of the

918
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Speaker 11: time first half, set up the run with the pass

919
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 11: to old, throw the score, run to win. Well, you

920
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Speaker 11: got to you gotta score if you're gonna do that.

921
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Speaker 11: And then the game got away second half, so I didn't.

922
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Speaker 11: I didn't. You know, that didn't bother me too much.

923
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Speaker 11: I never liked for Tater to get fourteen carries. He

924
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Speaker 11: had twelve last week, which wasn't enough, even though they

925
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Speaker 11: blew the doors off the team. So it's easy to

926
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 11: look back and say they should have should have. I

927
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 11: thought they should have run the ball a little bit more. Uh,

928
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 11: but but that's not what they've done this year. That's

929
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Speaker 11: just not been. There been the way they've operated the offense.

930
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 11: And then when you try to throw and you're just

931
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Speaker 11: getting rushed or getting sacked and you're in a long

932
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 11: yardage and all that and and you know, again Ford

933
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Speaker 11: was it four turnovers in eight games and six is

934
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Speaker 11: six against the Steelers. That's just that's an aberration, I hope.

935
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Speaker 11: But yeah, whenever you lose, you should have did something else.

936
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Speaker 11: And one thing I didn't get too hung up on, well,

937
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Speaker 11: you know, they didn't quit. They were down. It was

938
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Speaker 11: a one possession lost. Did that feel like a one

939
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Speaker 11: possession loss?

940
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Speaker 1: That's the amazing thing. If you were an optimist, you know,

941
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: and I mean, chap, let's be real I mean, I'm

942
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Speaker 1: known as anything. You know, I walk out of the

943
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Speaker 1: house and it's just instant sunshine. Right. I'm not even

944
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,240
Speaker 1: allowed to go anywhere near the Arctic Circle just because

945
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Speaker 1: of you know, the they don't want me melting stuff.

946
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 1: But having said that, kidding aside, Yeah, the fact that

947
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: they to have six turnovers and be and lose by

948
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: seven points is pretty darn remark arkable all told. And

949
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: that has to give you some level of combination of wow,

950
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: they shot themselves in the foot and combination of well,

951
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: they must be pretty darn good.

952
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 11: Right, Yeah, if you want to take that, But if

953
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 11: you watch that game, you knew that it wasn't in

954
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 11: one position game. No, I get it, you know, so

955
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 11: so and again, any game where you have two on

956
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 11: side kicks, it's not a good game. And you know,

957
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 11: they had a successful fake punt. They were five or

958
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 11: five on fourth down, so you know they gave themselves

959
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 11: a chance. Yes, but if I'm not min sake, it

960
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 11: was twenty seven to seven going into the fourth quarter

961
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 11: or something thereabouts. And but yeah, at least say they

962
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 11: made a game of it. But they didn't make the

963
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 11: Steelers do anything on offense. You know what they have

964
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 11: two hundred and fifty yards whatever on offense. Didn't make

965
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 11: them do anything. And if you don't make them do anything,

966
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Speaker 11: all they're going to do you know, those dink and

967
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 11: dunks and underneath and you know, Jalen Jones comes back

968
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 11: and helps hold Matkift to two catches for whatever it was,

969
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 11: seven or eight yards. But you don't win. You can't

970
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 11: win with turnovers like that, and I think it's a

971
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 11: one off. I went and looked at since two thousand

972
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 11: teams that had six or more turnovers, they were five

973
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 11: ninety two and one. You know, so you don't win.

974
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 11: But again, I think the fact that they made a

975
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 11: respect will give you some I get optimism. I don't know,

976
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 11: but we won't know anything about this team until they

977
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 11: go to Berlin and hopefully take care of it. Of

978
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 11: an Atlanta team that you just can't figure out what

979
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 11: they're doing. So and then because then it's then you

980
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 11: go to the second half of the season, and I'm

981
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 11: telling you, if they find a way to beat Atlanta,

982
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 11: let's see a show a hands. You up to be

983
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 11: eight and two at the buye, you know, and there

984
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 11: are no hands in the air.

985
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 1: So the chapter is the Atlanta game. I mentioned this earlier,

986
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Speaker 1: Mike Chapel, our guest CBS four and WXIM Fox fifty nine.

987
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: He's on the Joba House peeling poor guest line the

988
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: Atlanta game now, and I get it. The NFL is

989
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: one week at a time, right, However, you know you

990
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: have the buy following that, and then you have Kansas City,

991
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 1: which looms I mean everybody, and players can tell you

992
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: they don't look at everybody's looking at that Kansas City name.

993
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 1: You know, so you don't what you don't want. What

994
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: you don't want is going in the by coming off

995
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: of two losses in a row. So does this in

996
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: any way almost kind of increase the magnitude of this

997
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: Atlanta game of making it must win is an extreme word,

998
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:55,399
Speaker 1: but real important to win, as opposed to, Hey, we've

999
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: done really good work and let's hope we get this

1000
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: one and go in and then that's it. You see

1001
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

1002
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's very easy to start seven and one and

1003
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 11: then let it get away from you. Good teams don't

1004
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 11: do that, you know, good teams, you know, as a

1005
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 11: couple of players, And it's funny how in the locker

1006
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 11: room players were saying, well, you know you learn from

1007
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,800
Speaker 11: this and learn from that. Well, okay, only, like Quentin said,

1008
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 11: only if you win, Only if you learn from it

1009
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 11: and come back and win. So yeah, I it must win. No,

1010
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 11: be a good idea to win, Yes, because again, can

1011
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 11: you come out of the buy and you're in Kansas City,

1012
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 11: then you've got Houston and Jacksonville, and you got Houston

1013
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 11: again and Jacksonville again in San Francisco. So you've got

1014
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 11: to get back to where you were playing because the

1015
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 11: way they were playing, they would need to play like

1016
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 11: that and most of the time to win a good

1017
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 11: portion in the second half of the season because the

1018
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:54,959
Speaker 11: schedule is tougher and Houston's defense will be the best

1019
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 11: safe seat. Kansas City. You just don't know, you know,

1020
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 11: everybody had them's a lot to all of a sudden

1021
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,439
Speaker 11: they got their act together and there the Super Bowl

1022
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,439
Speaker 11: favorites again of Mahomes is this, that and the other.

1023
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 11: And then they go and Buffalo beats them. But I

1024
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 11: realized the one name but they beat on pretty good.

1025
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 11: Mahomes wasn't himself. So it is week to week that

1026
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 11: That's why what's really important is he is not letting

1027
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 11: the Pittsburgh thing linger, get the offensive line face. You know,

1028
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 11: everybody had a bad game. Quentin kept getting pushed back

1029
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 11: in the in the backfield, Matt Gonzalez got beat a

1030
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 11: couple of times. Uh so how do you respond? And

1031
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 11: you just knew we we've we've we've known that people

1032
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:44,240
Speaker 11: were waiting to see the Daniel Jones of the Giants

1033
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 11: years reappear. There's no question about that, even after all

1034
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 11: he had done in eight games. Well then he had

1035
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 11: a giant slight game with the turnovers, five turnovers. He had,

1036
00:55:55,360 --> 00:56:00,760
Speaker 11: Holy smokes. So it's incoming upon him and the team

1037
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,280
Speaker 11: to put that behind him. And every team, every team

1038
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 11: has a has a clunker. They do. Carolina won at

1039
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 11: Green Bay yesterday. I mean, come on, so it was.

1040
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 1: A crazy day all around yesterday, right, I mean it

1041
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 1: would just I mean, that's what the NFL chap. That's

1042
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 1: what the NFL is designed for, right the In baseball,

1043
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: everybody loves spring training because hope spring's eternal and everybody's

1044
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 1: team has a shot, right And in the NFL, everybody's

1045
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 1: team has a shot every single week. I mean, that's

1046
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: why it is what it is.

1047
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 11: There's a there's a handful of teams that suck, but no,

1048
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 11: your points well taken. And we talked like last week,

1049
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,720
Speaker 11: of all the years where the Colts will be playing

1050
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 11: really well and all this this is a year that

1051
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 11: maybe something has happened because nobody's really stepping up. You know,

1052
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 11: Minnesota with their Ritchie quarterback goes into Detroit and wins.

1053
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 11: So the teams that you thought were going to be

1054
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 11: head and shoulders above. I still think Buffalo pretty good.

1055
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,959
Speaker 11: I still think Kansas City's pretty good. I've never really

1056
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 11: put the I always said to Colts like third behind

1057
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 11: those guys. This was before yesterday. But but you're in

1058
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 11: the mix, and you're still as bad as that day was.

1059
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 11: You still got the best record in the league. And

1060
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 11: if I look at it right, you've got the number

1061
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 11: one seed. Well that's fine at the midway point, but

1062
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 11: now you've got to, you know, gather yourself. Sticking's done

1063
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 11: a good job of keeping them pretty well grounded. Maybe

1064
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 11: maybe they needed and I this is a reach, maybe

1065
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 11: they needed to be knocked down a little bit just

1066
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 11: so they don't start believing that they were all of that,

1067
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 11: you know what I mean, They were just going to

1068
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 11: go out there and score thirty a game and finish

1069
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 11: fourteen to three and all that. So maybe this is

1070
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 11: something a reality checked that if you if you don't

1071
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 11: do what you're supposed to do, you know, protect their quarter.

1072
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the biggest cliche in sport. But you shouldn't

1073
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: be defined by a loss. You should be defined about

1074
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: how you react to it, right.

1075
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 11: Right, and how they're going to react. I don't know,

1076
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 11: we'll see.

1077
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 1: Did you happen to watch last night the game between

1078
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: Seattle and Washington? Did you see any of that?

1079
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1080
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 11: I saw most of it because I'm just a I

1081
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 11: have no life, but yes.

1082
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: Well can you agree? And actually I think you do

1083
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: have a life, And I'll tell you why, because here's

1084
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: why you watch a lot of that. Can you agree

1085
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 1: or can we all agree? Or you can be wrong

1086
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 1: that Seattle and the uniforms they wore last night are

1087
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 1: the greatest uniforms in the history of the NFL.

1088
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 11: Yeah, pretty cool, Pretty cool. And this is the same

1089
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 11: name that the Packers had those throwbacks. I just this,

1090
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 11: it's all marketing. I understand that, but some of these

1091
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 11: are just not very good.

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00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: I think. I think the important thing that the NFL

1093
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 1: forgets about Chap is that for the throwback uniforms, they

1094
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 1: need to be uniforms that are thrown back to an

1095
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: era that there's at least one person on the planet

1096
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: that remembers when they wore those. I know, you know

1097
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 1: what I mean. I like, here's nineteen twelve, you know

1098
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 1: yellow jacket, the Dayton yellow jackets. Yeah, okay, I mean,

1099
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 1: are there any season taking holders left over? You know

1100
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: what I mean?

1101
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 11: But that's what pro teams do, know all of them.

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00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 11: They have five or six, seven different uniforms. If you're

1103
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 11: baseball in the NBA, and and I understand that, but

1104
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 11: but then if you're a parent at home, when your

1105
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 11: kid loves your team, you're going to fork out money

1106
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 11: for five jerseys. I mean, you know that. That's I

1107
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 11: understand why they do it. But yeah, and whenever the

1108
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 11: Colts are their throwbacks, you're thinking I thought they were

1109
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 11: wearing throwbacks. And unless you see like the double horseshoe

1110
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 11: in the back of the helmet or extra stripes on

1111
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 11: the ard, I'll.

1112
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: Tell you the Colts throwback chap. Here's the Colts throwback

1113
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 1: that I don't know that I've seen them wear. Okay,

1114
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 1: but if every team in the NFL and this would

1115
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: be a fun exercise if every team in the NFL

1116
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 1: was forced to wear they're nineteen eighty four eighty five uniforms,

1117
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: which was the first year that the Colts in Indianapolis.

1118
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: The Colts throwbacks would be the gray pants with the

1119
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 1: horseshoe on the left hip and the number in the

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Speaker 1: middle of it, right, isn't that right?

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01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 11: Yeah?

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01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm never like and but if everybody was wearing

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01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 1: their nineteen eighty four uniforms that I think the winner

1124
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 1: still is Seattle, or maybe some would say Denver, right, Tinver?

1125
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 11: I love. San Diegos are cool. The powder with the

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01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 11: lightning bolt.

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01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but for sure, for sure those are good. But

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01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 1: that's more like seventies Chargers, right right?

1129
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 11: Did you like the mingles with the with the tiger stripes?

1130
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 11: They were like black, I kind of like that.

1131
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: That's pretty hard to argue that, Yeah, it's pretty hard.

1132
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,959
Speaker 11: You can argue this my pumpkin's helmet, but still black.

1133
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 11: Those black with the tiger stripes are really cool.

1134
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 1: Now, how about this Buffalo? Do you know why Buffalo?

1135
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 1: Do you remember when Buffalo had liked like dark red

1136
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 1: and blue helmets as opposed to the white helmets. Yes,

1137
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 1: do you know why they switched No true story. Joe Ferguson,

1138
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 1: their quarterback, was colorblind, and so it made it easier

1139
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 1: for him to differentiate offense to defense. And I can't

1140
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 1: remember if that was. I'm not colorblind, so I don't

1141
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 1: know how that was this would work. I don't know

1142
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 1: if that was when they went to the white helmets

1143
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: or they went to the dark colored helmets because it

1144
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 1: was easy for his eye to distinguish.

1145
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 11: I think Joe Ferguson played a year here.

1146
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 1: He did, didn't he did one? Yeah, at the end

1147
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 1: of his career, right, kind of like Mark Rippon.

1148
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 11: Right, this is where quarterbacks go to die.

1149
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 1: Well, it helps when you have a young prodigy that

1150
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 1: everybody's like, yeah, I'll hold the clipboard for Peyton Manning

1151
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 1: for a year. Right. Check trade deadline tomorrow. As a

1152
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 1: matter of fact, I believe what like twenty seven hours

1153
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 1: from now something like that. Do you anticipate do you

1154
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 1: think we're going to see Chris Ballard making a move?

1155
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 11: Yes? Yes, I just think because if we may have

1156
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 11: talked about this last week, where they are seven and two,

1157
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 11: everything in front of him, and they have deficiencies and

1158
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 11: they have the the wherewithal the resources to go and

1159
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 11: get somebody. I still think they need a corner. I'll

1160
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 11: tell you what's Cincinnati playing themselves out of it? Maybe

1161
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 11: maybe Trey Hendrickson's back on the market.

1162
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 9: Uh.

1163
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 11: Diana Russini of The Athletic mentioned that they still want

1164
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 11: like a first round draft pick. I just I don't

1165
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 11: know that Chris does that. I just don't because with Hendrickson,

1166
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 11: let's say say it's Hendrickson, You're getting a quality game

1167
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 11: who's missed last couple of games with a hip injury.

1168
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 11: He's thirty one, and if you trade for him, let's

1169
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 11: see you trade one for him. He's a p regent

1170
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 11: this year, so you've got to trade for him with

1171
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 11: the idea you're didn't give him edge rush money in

1172
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 11: a long term. So I don't know if that's going

1173
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 11: to happen. I think a corner. I think I think

1174
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 11: they have an interest in Cincinnati's at Cam Taylor Britt.

1175
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 11: I think they have an interest in him. Uh. And

1176
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 11: the Bengals interest in being sellers should be you know,

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01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 11: more so now that they've you know, squandered another big

1178
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 11: game with with a crappy defense and whatever whatever, teams

1179
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 11: are asking for it, and today, if it's a one,

1180
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 11: if it's a two, if it's three, I really think

1181
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 11: the price goes down as the deadline appears. Well, we

1182
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 11: can't get a one, and we really want to trade

1183
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 11: this guy. Where we take it two, where we take

1184
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 11: it three? So you know, I saw Jalen Phillips was

1185
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 11: traded today for a three.

1186
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 6: Uh.

1187
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 11: Some people think that's a bit high. But if you're

1188
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 11: gonna get if you're going to get a player, you've

1189
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 11: got to give up something. And you know, are you

1190
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 11: are you getting a young player that you might resign

1191
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 11: as part of your future?

1192
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 1: Is that?

1193
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 11: Is it a one? Not a one year but a

1194
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 11: half year rental? I think they make a move. I

1195
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 11: think it's a corner. Uh maybe hell shock us with

1196
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 11: a passwords. I thought the ass rush was decent yesterday.

1197
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 11: Uh luckily a lot too.

1198
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: I was going to say, lost in all of the

1199
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 1: the dramatics of the game itself, Chap, did we kind

1200
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 1: of sleep on the fact that maybe layout to lotso

1201
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 1: is starting to show a little form?

1202
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 11: Yeah, he's getting away from the almost sacks to sacks.

1203
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 1: What are you have two and a half correct?

1204
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 11: Yet he's got five so that may that made lesson

1205
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 11: their their desire to go out and pay a big

1206
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 11: compensation for a guy when the crying need for a

1207
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 11: corner is obvious. Again, I would all just take the

1208
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 11: pass rusher because they can put t TG what wreck

1209
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 11: a game, But your need right now is at corner.

1210
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 11: Just because of the personnel and the injuries. I think

1211
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 11: they make a move today. I don't know tomorrow. Yes,

1212
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 11: I just think they they need to they the situation

1213
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 11: is is too ripe not to have a move made.

1214
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 1: You know, Eddie. I don't know if you mentioned this

1215
01:04:58,440 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 1: or if you know this or not, but when when

1216
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 1: things are ripe, oftentimes what you need to do. Like

1217
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 1: if you're smelling a little ripe, somebody says to you,

1218
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 1: which they might Eddy from time time ripe.

1219
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:07,959
Speaker 2: You know what that means?

1220
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 1: Time to go? Z's fully clean, Eddie? Is what that means?

1221
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 8: Right?

1222
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 11: You? You always go down rabbit hole.

1223
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 1: The colts always need to clean things up, Chap. But

1224
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 1: you know that's that's what second said. They're clean things up.

1225
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 1: There you go, there you go, there you go, okay, Chaff. Lastly,

1226
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 1: from a health standpoint, I did not get a chance

1227
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 1: necessarily to look over it yet today. You know, obviously

1228
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 1: in the NFL, you know, coming out of the game,

1229
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 1: your your big goal is to make sure there were

1230
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 1: no sizeable you know, losses or injuries. It looked like

1231
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 1: they came out of it fairly unscathed, correct.

1232
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:48,440
Speaker 11: Yeah. Steven Hiller posted, you know during the game that

1233
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 11: Buckner went into a blue chant, but he returned of

1234
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 11: the game. Jalen Jones came out briefly went back in

1235
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 11: the game. He played a ton. He played like eighty

1236
01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 11: percent of the snaps after not playing for like seven games,

1237
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 11: which is a great sign. And again he really had

1238
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 11: a good hands and shutting down metcast. So I think

1239
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 11: they're in good shape. They're gonna they don't get Mooney

1240
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 11: Ward back until after the bye. Taekwon Lewis might come

1241
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 11: back for the Falcons, So they're really and they need

1242
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 11: to get Anthony goldback, which I don't know how far

1243
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 11: off he is. He was the puntmerturner and Josh Downs

1244
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 11: had had that bad muff that turned out to be

1245
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 11: nothing because the defense stepped up. But you can't be

1246
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 11: turning the ball over on special teams at all.

1247
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 8: Chap, is there another position that we're not talking about?

1248
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 8: That Chris Baller could be examining as a Hey, I'm

1249
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 8: gonna go out trade for somebody to bolster up this room,

1250
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 8: or I want some insurance out of a certain position,

1251
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 8: because to me, I think linebacker still stands out because

1252
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 8: we don't know Carls is coming back.

1253
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 11: I was just I'm I you can't bank on that.

1254
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 11: I was gonna say linebacker. Uh And again with the Bengals,

1255
01:06:57,880 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 11: we always you know, I always go back to where

1256
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 11: you're coordinator, Shrum and Cincinnati and they've got Logan Wilson,

1257
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 11: who's a quality, quality starter, has been benched in favor

1258
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 11: of a rookie, and I think he's been inactive the

1259
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 11: last game or two. Uh So that's that's a possibility.

1260
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 11: He's a little more costly as far as salary, but

1261
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 11: I would I wouldn't turn my back on a on

1262
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 11: a linebacker who can who can offer some cover skills.

1263
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 11: They've got tackle guys they need to cover linebacker that

1264
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 11: that's been missing all year.

1265
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 1: Chap, I'm gonna do a Twitter ex post survey here.

1266
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you give the first vote. Okay, inn

1267
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 1: fl's worst team New York Jets, Tennessee Titans, New Orleans

1268
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 1: Saints or other which in parentheses I put in Miami

1269
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 1: with a question mark. I go Tennessee. Okay, posting a right,

1270
01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see if I could vote? Can I do

1271
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 1: my own vote here? Eddie? Can you can you do

1272
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 1: a vote as Tennessee.

1273
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 8: Please from the Quarian company Twitter? Sure I can do that.

1274
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 1: Lock in chap as. Vote number one is Tennessee is

1275
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 1: the worst team. I think it might be the Jets,

1276
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 1: chap I haven't seen enough of New Orleans.

1277
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 11: I tell you. Another crappy team are the Giants. I

1278
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 11: mean they won three, but holy.

1279
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:22,720
Speaker 1: Moss Raiders are pretty bad too.

1280
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 11: Right, there's we were talking about. This is the year

1281
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 11: where there's some really good teams, no great teams, there's

1282
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:30,600
Speaker 11: some really bad teams.

1283
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 1: Giants are two and seven two and seven three Giants Okay.

1284
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 11: I was excited about Jackson Dart and we'll see. But

1285
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 11: how Brian dabels So has a job?

1286
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:41,599
Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 11: Do not know? Well.

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01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 1: Lastly, Atlanta, for example, going into this game in Germany

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01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 1: is three and five with after the exchange rate is

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Speaker 1: still three and five. But I feel like Atlanta is

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01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 1: actually and I know it sounds crazy because your record

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Speaker 1: is your record. I get it, but Atlanta seems to

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01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:02,639
Speaker 1: me a little more competent than that, Am I am

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01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 1: I giving them too much credit here.

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01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 11: No, look at their schedule though they've they've had some

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01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 11: big wins and some bad losses. There's no middle ground

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Speaker 11: with them. Yeah. So yeah, and they've got some great

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01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:19,599
Speaker 11: offensive channel with Robinson and Drake London and and Pitt's

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01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 11: and you know Pennis is that the problem is Pennis

1300
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 11: is like so up and down gives you great stuff.

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01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:29,679
Speaker 11: I did not great stuff. Uh, there's this is another

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01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 11: one of those that the Colts can't roll the ball

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01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 11: out there and win it. They're gonna have to play well.

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01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:36,680
Speaker 11: So h But but again, if you're if you're a

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01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 11: good team, these are the kind of teams that you beat.

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01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 11: But then I say that they should have You know

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01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 11: that that's Pittsburgh's the kind of team they should have beat.

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01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 11: But Atlanta's. Atlanta is just hard to prepare for because

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01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 11: you don't know which Falcon teams you're gonna get.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so we have one vote in for the And

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01:09:57,600 --> 01:09:59,759
Speaker 1: you said, again, you think it's Tennessee Chap.

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01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 11: Yeah, just because I saw him and they were really bad.

1313
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 11: So Miami too. They were really bad.

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01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Miami looks completely clueless, uh not unlike this show.

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01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 1: All right, cheap, I appreciate the time as always. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk to you next week. Good and talk, all right?

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Speaker 1: Be well, guys, All right, Mike Chapel joining us, Java House,

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01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 1: Peel and Port guest line. I know that word good

1319
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 1: and talk? Does that mean good day?

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01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 8: I thought? I thought so.

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01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:27,640
Speaker 1: I think it means good day, doesn't it. I'm just

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01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 1: gonna run around when I'm in Germany and say, guden

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01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 1: talk to everybody all the time, two o'clock in the morning,

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01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,599
Speaker 1: good and talk. Can you look up what that means?

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01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 1: Good day?

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01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 8: Is goudn't talk?

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01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 1: So basically, the Mark Boyle of whoever is the voice

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01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 1: of the Munich monarchs, says Gudin talg everywhere he goes, right, yeah,

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01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 1: fair enough, all right. When we come back, I will

1330
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:56,520
Speaker 1: read a couple more of our nine word headlines about yesterday,

1331
01:10:56,720 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 1: and also the good news is the really good news

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01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 1: about the Colts lost yesterday? Is it possibly is usurped

1333
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 1: from across the street. I'll explain next. Miles Turner at

1334
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 1: the field House tonight, Pacers bucks in A guy that

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01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 1: has boy there are few that you could see that

1336
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 1: has become a heel faster than Miles Turner, but you

1337
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 1: kind of need the car facts on that to look

1338
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:46,760
Speaker 1: a little bit further under the hood. Get into that

1339
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 1: in just a second. Back to yesterday. The nine words

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01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 1: to summarize how you feel about the Colts after nine games?

1341
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 1: This from Greg will the Colts win more than ten games?

1342
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 1: Question mark David? Great against bad teams, subpar against playoff teams.

1343
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 1: I didn't count to make sure these are all nine words.

1344
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 1: By the way, some of them feel like they might

1345
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 1: be a little bit over surprised with their record. Schedule

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01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 1: will determine character? Steve has a good one here and incomplete.

1347
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 1: They beat both good teams and bad lost to both two.

1348
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 1: Rob seven and two. Still feeling good? Super Bowl bound?

1349
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 1: Super Bowl bound baby. And then to your point from earlier,

1350
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 1: Eddie and this was fabulous from Chris Hey Groc, what

1351
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:48,639
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on the Indianapolis Colts after yesterday's loss?

1352
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:51,679
Speaker 1: Used nine words or less? Groc, which is the AI

1353
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:55,599
Speaker 1: generated of course response. Turnovers doomed the Colts strong start,

1354
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 1: but seven and two keeps them contenders. Don't you hate

1355
01:12:59,880 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 1: it when you're like you know, a I probably actually

1356
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 1: got it the best out of anybody, because it's coming

1357
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:08,680
Speaker 1: for all our jobs, coming for all our jobs. And

1358
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 1: the problem with the AI thing anymore. And this has

1359
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 1: happened so quickly, literally in the blink of an eye,

1360
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 1: we have turned into and morphed into this society where

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01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 1: when you hear comments from someone or see video of someone,

1362
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 1: the first thing you now have to do is go

1363
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:37,799
Speaker 1: back and go now, is this real or is this AI?

1364
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 1: And we could go into a whole different talk show

1365
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:47,160
Speaker 1: as to who developed and conditioned us for all of

1366
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 1: that and for what motivation do they have in terms

1367
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 1: of what they are forecasting and doing? Is this generated

1368
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 1: and set up so that we become so accustomed to

1369
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 1: and sent to believing that anything could be real, so

1370
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:07,520
Speaker 1: that then when things are real that are overtly offensive,

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01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 1: the person's protected by the excuse of well, that would

1372
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 1: just be AI generated. That's a whole different talk show

1373
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 1: for another time. But the reality is what we are

1374
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 1: seeing is you are oftentimes seeing or hearing something that

1375
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 1: you think, to yourself is completely out of character of someone,

1376
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 1: or it catches you off guard. And that's exactly what

1377
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 1: happened last week with the comments from Miles Turner. Miles

1378
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 1: Turner was asked on a podcast about Tyrese Haliburt and

1379
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 1: it went everywhere, including on this show. We talked about

1380
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 1: it everywhere where. He said, Haliburton was a guy that

1381
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 1: you know he could be and I'm paraphrasing, he could

1382
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 1: be kind of this tough guy because he knew that

1383
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:55,680
Speaker 1: we all were there, and he wasn't an in the

1384
01:14:55,720 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 1: street tough guy. And it's like, what in the world

1385
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 1: is going on here? Miles Turner, who was always a

1386
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 1: well liked guy in Indie. Now his play wasn't always

1387
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 1: well liked, but as a person, he was always a

1388
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:16,760
Speaker 1: well liked guy. And he signs with Milwaukee like right

1389
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:19,840
Speaker 1: out of the box, out of left field, apparently gave

1390
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 1: the Pacers no chance to respond to it. And now

1391
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 1: he's flapping his jaws and yapping all the time and

1392
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:30,680
Speaker 1: talking all this trash about Tyrese Halliburton, who is the

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01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 1: guy that got Miles Turner into the NBA Finals. And

1394
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 1: you could make the argument that Miles Turner was the

1395
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 1: biggest letdown and why they didn't win it. Right. I

1396
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 1: went back and looked at the totality of that podcast,

1397
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:50,680
Speaker 1: and when I looked at the totality of the podcast,

1398
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:59,759
Speaker 1: I was stunned. I was stunned because when I saw

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01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 1: what Miles Turner had to say about Tyres Halliburton, I thought, Okay,

1400
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 1: then I heard what even more he said and was

1401
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 1: stunned by it. I'll explain what I mean by that.

1402
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 1: And did you say we're going to Milwaukee coming up

1403
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 1: in the two o'clock hour, Eddie is correct? Okay, we

1404
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 1: will go to who are we talking to in Milwaukee?

1405
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:25,760
Speaker 8: Justin Garcia. He's on the Bucks radio networking and host

1406
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:26,679
Speaker 8: Lockton Bucks.

1407
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 1: He was a part of this show, of course during

1408
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,200
Speaker 1: the playoffs last year. We'll talk to him coming up

1409
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 1: to fifteen ish, is that right? Two thirty two thirty,

1410
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 1: so just under an hour from now we come back.

1411
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 1: I'll let you know what Turner said that made me

1412
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 1: go to quote See and See Music Factory. Paul Harvey

1413
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 1: made a living in radio by telling you. Now you

1414
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 1: know the rest of the story. And I think tonight's

1415
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 1: going to be awesome at the field House. Miles Turner

1416
01:16:56,600 --> 01:17:01,720
Speaker 1: back with the Milwaukee Bucks, And yes, I understand, and

1417
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 1: I you know, I'll be there jeering him on. I

1418
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 1: like Miles Turner as a guy. I do, And I

1419
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 1: think Miles Turner from the time that he was here

1420
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:15,640
Speaker 1: and drafted, was in some difficult circumstances, not always his

1421
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:22,120
Speaker 1: to his choice. He was drafted into a place that initially,

1422
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:24,719
Speaker 1: you know, you got Paul George there, and then Paul

1423
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 1: George after the softball game leaves and everybody's like, well, not,

1424
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 1: it's Miles Turner's team. He's the guy. He's the guy.

1425
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, people realize, well, he's still

1426
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 1: got some growth and developed to do. You know, he

1427
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 1: was very young when he arrived here. And the one

1428
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 1: consistent thing about Miles Turners Miles Turner's career in Indianapolis

1429
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 1: is the fact that he was the constant subject of

1430
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:54,559
Speaker 1: trade discussion, not necessarily by the PACER's front office, not

1431
01:17:54,600 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 1: necessarily by his teammates, but certainly just in general with

1432
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 1: the fan base and the media and everything. He was

1433
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 1: and he was constantly linked and it would be very

1434
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 1: easy for the Pacers to have said to Myles Turner, look,

1435
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:13,760
Speaker 1: don't believe and listen to any of that stuff. It's

1436
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 1: just that these people have no idea what they're talking about.

1437
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 1: But when they went and offered the offer sheet to

1438
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 1: DeAndre Ayton regardless of how serious the Pacers were about

1439
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 1: signing that to Ayton, because I truly believe I have

1440
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 1: like three sports conspiracies in my life that I will

1441
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:33,839
Speaker 1: stand by forever, and one of them is I truly

1442
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:39,719
Speaker 1: believe that the Pacers offered DeAndre Ayton an offer sheet

1443
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 1: because they one hundred percent knew that Phoenix was going

1444
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:45,760
Speaker 1: to match it, and there was some other vision down

1445
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:48,760
Speaker 1: the road that the Pacers felt like Phoenix was going

1446
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:52,640
Speaker 1: to be a contender for with for a player, so

1447
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:56,680
Speaker 1: they upped the ante so that Phoenix would overpay for

1448
01:18:56,720 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 1: DeAndre Ayton, knowing that that would take them over the

1449
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 1: ability to get other players moving forward. And I think

1450
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 1: the Pacers would have been okay with it if Phoenix

1451
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 1: would have said no, and the penalty was you would

1452
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:13,840
Speaker 1: have had to sign Dean ra Eighton. But either way,

1453
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:18,720
Speaker 1: Miles Turner knew that that was out there, and so

1454
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:21,679
Speaker 1: I don't blame him when Milwaukee comes and says, here's

1455
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:23,280
Speaker 1: an offer and you got to sign this now, and

1456
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:25,240
Speaker 1: there's no counter to it, and you can see what

1457
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 1: Indiana offers, but you cannot use this as a counter offer.

1458
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 1: Whatever you have a deadline on when you sign this.

1459
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:31,719
Speaker 1: It's in the back of his mind that whole time.

1460
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 1: But then seemingly, Miles Turner continues to say dumb stuff,

1461
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 1: and especially when you hear the first part of this podcast,

1462
01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:42,960
Speaker 1: which I know a lot was made of last week,

1463
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 1: but I want to play it again. This is Miles

1464
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 1: Turner talking about Tyrese Halliburton, the Wisconsin native, the Milwaukee antagonist.

1465
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:56,639
Speaker 1: Miles Turner talking about Tyre's Halliburton last week.

1466
01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 4: Tyre's also he knows he's protected too, so he can

1467
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 4: go out there talking, think whatever the hell he wants

1468
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:02,519
Speaker 4: to do, and then you know, he knows he has

1469
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:04,840
Speaker 4: back up at the end of the day. Now he's

1470
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 4: not gonna be talking the same if you're in the

1471
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 4: middle of the street, Okay, as a teammate, bro.

1472
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:13,160
Speaker 1: Like now, that was Miles Turner talking about how and

1473
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:15,920
Speaker 1: everybody goes, holy cow, Halliburton got him to the finals

1474
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:20,160
Speaker 1: and Miles Turner disappeared in the finals. And when you

1475
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 1: hear that, you think to yourself, why in the world

1476
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:25,400
Speaker 1: is he throwing Tyres Halliburton under the bus? What is

1477
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 1: this Miles Turner? Like, where did this? You know? Goofison

1478
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 1: Gallant from Highlights Magazine, Like I've always known of Gallant,

1479
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 1: Like where did Goofis come from? This is a guy

1480
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 1: in Miles Turner that was a solid citizen in Indianapolis,

1481
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:42,480
Speaker 1: that had the fan base up in the rafters that

1482
01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 1: that you know, provided tickets for them, that did the

1483
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:50,200
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving dinner? Like where is this all coming from? And

1484
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:54,599
Speaker 1: then I go and I hear the rest of the story,

1485
01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:59,639
Speaker 1: and I listened to the rest of the audio, and

1486
01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 1: that's that's when I realized something that aligns with what

1487
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 1: we talked about earlier with yesterday's Colts game as it

1488
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:10,680
Speaker 1: comes to Miles Turner. This is Miles Turner and the

1489
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 1: totality of that interview and podcast talking about Tyrese Halibert.

1490
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 4: First and foremost, Bro, Like, you got to respect the

1491
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 4: way he you know, he's handled himself in his career,

1492
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like coming from Sacramento and

1493
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 4: coming from that situation, it's a heartbreaking thing. You know,

1494
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:25,760
Speaker 4: he think he'd be about to be the face of

1495
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 4: the franchise. Then you come to Indiana and damn near

1496
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 4: reinvent yourself. Bro through everything. So one, you can't like

1497
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 4: his professionalism, the way he carries himself. You can't really

1498
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:36,280
Speaker 4: just like you know, on that because you know he's

1499
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 4: that's just what he's you know, made himself to be

1500
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 4: two as a teammate, bro, Like he's a hell of

1501
01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 4: a teammate. Bro, he's you know what we talk about,

1502
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 4: how you're supposed to as a as a team come

1503
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:45,480
Speaker 4: together at camaraderie.

1504
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:45,680
Speaker 2: Bro.

1505
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:47,760
Speaker 4: He's setting up all the team dinner, he said, all

1506
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:49,720
Speaker 4: the team parties, Like he wants people like to keep it,

1507
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:53,600
Speaker 4: like to be together, Like he definitely like embodies that

1508
01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:55,640
Speaker 4: if you will. And then third, when it comes to

1509
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 4: the family, Bro, I mean he's you know, he's very

1510
01:21:57,320 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 4: close to his you know what I'm saying, Like you've

1511
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:01,759
Speaker 4: seen how it whennot you think he's about his family

1512
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:05,439
Speaker 4: and what not. And man, it's hard. He makes it

1513
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:07,040
Speaker 4: hard on himself to root for him just because of

1514
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:09,800
Speaker 4: the way this does at times. But as a competitor, Bro,

1515
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:11,480
Speaker 4: you got to respect the way he rocks.

1516
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 1: Okay, that is the podcast of Giannis's brother that as

1517
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 1: this unto Takoumpo, And when you listen to that in totality,

1518
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:23,320
Speaker 1: then he goes on to say, hey, he also knows

1519
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 1: with all of those things as a great teammate and

1520
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 1: all of those other things. He knows that he can

1521
01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:31,360
Speaker 1: be the antagonist in games because we will have his back.

1522
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:33,719
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that that's who he is outside the court.

1523
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:36,559
Speaker 1: When you listen to it into totality, then you go,

1524
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 1: wait a minute, it's not near at Like when I

1525
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 1: first heard just the snippet, I thought, like, what in

1526
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 1: the world you know? Shame on Miles Turner. Then when

1527
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:53,000
Speaker 1: I listened to the full thing, I thought, well, actually,

1528
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 1: shame on me because I didn't take the time to

1529
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:57,840
Speaker 1: listen to the totality of what was being said. I'm

1530
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:00,479
Speaker 1: not here to exonerate Myles Turner and I'm not here

1531
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:04,080
Speaker 1: to take away the fuel of what the crowd tonight

1532
01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:06,360
Speaker 1: will be in a whipped up frenzy about Miles Turner,

1533
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:07,800
Speaker 1: which will be fun and I'll love it, and I'm

1534
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:09,720
Speaker 1: here for it. He's on the other team now, I

1535
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 1: get it. But at the same time, I think you

1536
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 1: have to look at it in the totality and the

1537
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 1: understanding of what all was there. And the same is

1538
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:22,599
Speaker 1: true as I mentioned for the Colts. When you look

1539
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:24,280
Speaker 1: at that Colts game yesterday and you look at the

1540
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:26,720
Speaker 1: six turnovers and you look at everything that went into it.

1541
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:31,840
Speaker 1: Maybe that was the anomaly game. Maybe that was the

1542
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 1: hiccup game. And if in fact, you look at it

1543
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 1: at the end of the year and in the totality

1544
01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:41,680
Speaker 1: of the season for the Colts, you look at the

1545
01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 1: game against Pittsburgh at Pittsburgh and you go, hey, shame

1546
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 1: on you. You didn't protect your quarterback, you turn the ball over,

1547
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 1: you were careless, Shame on you. But if they turn

1548
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 1: around and the same thing happens, and let's say two

1549
01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:58,760
Speaker 1: of the next three or one of the next two,

1550
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:02,120
Speaker 1: I should say, Atlanta and Kansas City after the bye,

1551
01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 1: and you say, now you've got after this great start

1552
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:06,639
Speaker 1: where we were building them up, and they've lost two

1553
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 1: of three and everything that we talked about that made

1554
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:12,720
Speaker 1: them unique, taking care of the football, making the right decisions,

1555
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 1: trusting in Daniel Jones, running the football with Jhonathan Taylor.

1556
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:18,280
Speaker 1: If they got away from all of those things, then

1557
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:21,160
Speaker 1: maybe perhaps it's shame on me because I didn't look

1558
01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 1: at things in totality. But we have yet to determine

1559
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:33,000
Speaker 1: whether or not yesterday's game was representative of the if

1560
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 1: you will exception or the rule. And we don't know

1561
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:39,840
Speaker 1: yet whether or not we have the full story to

1562
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:45,840
Speaker 1: analyze and assess, but I've got an idea and we'll

1563
01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 1: get into that next and we'll talk in Milwaukee as

1564
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:51,760
Speaker 1: we talked about with the Bucks in town tonight with

1565
01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 1: the Pacers. That conversation thirty five minutes. A couple of

1566
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 1: interesting things said yesterday by Shane Steichen and Daniel Jones

1567
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 1: after the Colts game. Get to that in just a minute.

1568
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 1: On this Monday, how are you? My name is Jake Query.

1569
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:08,719
Speaker 1: Eddie Garrison. The other voice you hear on this program

1570
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:10,840
Speaker 1: at is Querying Company here on ninety three five and

1571
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 1: one oh seven five the fan couple of house keeping

1572
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 1: notes Number one, My mom would like for me to

1573
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 1: again remind everybody, and several people have sent me photos

1574
01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 1: today of the beautiful leaves that are falling, but they

1575
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:31,639
Speaker 1: can be very slippery when driving, so please be careful

1576
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:35,799
Speaker 1: that note number one. Number two want to let everybody

1577
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 1: know of a couple of events coming up on the calendar.

1578
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:42,160
Speaker 1: For example, Franciscan Health. This is November, which means November

1579
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:46,600
Speaker 1: right and November means men's health awareness. Our friends at

1580
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 1: Franciscan Health will again be teaming up with us at

1581
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 1: Googan House Brewing for what's going to be an awesome

1582
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:57,880
Speaker 1: day at the end of all of the November Health month,

1583
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:01,400
Speaker 1: we're going to again do our readings and other such

1584
01:26:01,479 --> 01:26:05,640
Speaker 1: things at Goodman House Brewing, which is over near Speedway.

1585
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:09,160
Speaker 1: This is going to be I'm looking right here and

1586
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 1: I'm looking for the date on this eddie? Do you

1587
01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:14,519
Speaker 1: know the date on this? By chance? I think it's

1588
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:18,760
Speaker 1: in December? Is it not? In terms of hour what's

1589
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:22,559
Speaker 1: at I'll find out. But of course it's more than

1590
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:24,519
Speaker 1: just a month. You know, you know about November Health

1591
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:26,360
Speaker 1: when it comes to growing out the mustache, A lot

1592
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:29,559
Speaker 1: of men do that for men's health awareness. But we're

1593
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:31,639
Speaker 1: going to be talking about men's health throughout the course

1594
01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:33,559
Speaker 1: of the month, and then it is at the end

1595
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:36,720
Speaker 1: of the month when we will have basically a celebration

1596
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 1: of that men's health with screenings from Franciscan Health including

1597
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 1: blood pressure, glucose, cholesterol, pelvic health, rehabilitation, basically all of

1598
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:49,880
Speaker 1: the things as a guy that you would like to

1599
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:54,200
Speaker 1: or think about in terms of your health. We will

1600
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 1: all get together in I believe it's December at Gudman

1601
01:26:57,520 --> 01:27:00,280
Speaker 1: House Brewing, will get you these December, specifically Somber the

1602
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 1: seventh for Gougmann House Brewing, and you will hear us

1603
01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 1: talking plenty about that Thursday night a fundraising event for

1604
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:09,600
Speaker 1: and I look forward to doing this for Live Like

1605
01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:15,760
Speaker 1: Lou to fight ALS. It is coming up on this Thursday,

1606
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:18,240
Speaker 1: a night of trivia, and I have done a round

1607
01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 1: of trivia questions based around Indianapolis, both from sports and

1608
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 1: civic standpoint, and those questions will be among those asked

1609
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:32,080
Speaker 1: for our evening that's taking place this Thursday. Look forward

1610
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:34,360
Speaker 1: to telling you about that and the fundraising efforts that

1611
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 1: are done to work against ALS, which to Live Like

1612
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 1: Lou Foundation of course Lou gareg lou Gereg's disease and ALS,

1613
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:43,880
Speaker 1: which is a terrible, terrible illness. You'll hear about that

1614
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 1: over the course of this week. Miles Turner is back.

1615
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:49,639
Speaker 1: He is at Gambridge Field House. We were just talking

1616
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:52,200
Speaker 1: about that, and he also just got done wrapping up

1617
01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 1: a media session with the media talking about and getting

1618
01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:59,360
Speaker 1: ready for tonight's game and his return to the Pacers

1619
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:02,800
Speaker 1: after what was a disappointing end to the season in

1620
01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:07,599
Speaker 1: his time in Indy, not just in not playing well

1621
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:11,439
Speaker 1: in the finals. But then it goes without saying his

1622
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 1: departure and his signing with Milwaukee and with Turner back

1623
01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 1: one of the things he just talked about. And this

1624
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:22,040
Speaker 1: is literally within like the last thirty minutes or so,

1625
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:24,880
Speaker 1: and Edie's been putting it together. In terms of the

1626
01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:28,479
Speaker 1: reception from you fans at Gambridge field House tonight, there

1627
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:31,800
Speaker 1: are two versions, I guess you would say. One would

1628
01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:36,439
Speaker 1: be what Miles Turner anticipates to hearing from the crowd,

1629
01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 1: but the other would be what he wants to hear

1630
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:42,600
Speaker 1: from the crowd. Let's begin with that. Turner was obviously

1631
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:45,280
Speaker 1: a popular player here. He was a great member of

1632
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:48,760
Speaker 1: the community, and yes it did not end well in

1633
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:52,959
Speaker 1: terms of his surprising departure, But what sort of reception

1634
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:56,720
Speaker 1: would he want to hear from Gambridge field House? Oh?

1635
01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:59,080
Speaker 4: Man, Like I said, I think that I've given myself

1636
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:02,920
Speaker 4: a win lous drawl. You know, whether I was up,

1637
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:04,160
Speaker 4: whether it was down, I was out here. You know,

1638
01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:06,559
Speaker 4: five for the city, five for the team, and you know,

1639
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:08,479
Speaker 4: I hope those feelings are you over sip Kate tonight.

1640
01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 4: You know, I'm expecting the best, but you know, you

1641
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:11,240
Speaker 4: never know.

1642
01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 1: Now, that's what he would like question is, though, Miles,

1643
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:19,600
Speaker 1: what is it actually in terms of the reception that

1644
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:20,680
Speaker 1: you anticipate.

1645
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:23,040
Speaker 4: I think it's obviously going to be a mix mixed views,

1646
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 4: mixed feelings, mixed emotions. But for me, it's always gonna

1647
01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:25,519
Speaker 4: be love.

1648
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:25,680
Speaker 9: Man.

1649
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:27,519
Speaker 4: As like I said, I spend so much time just

1650
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:29,280
Speaker 4: in this environment, and it's one of the best sports

1651
01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:31,880
Speaker 4: environment you know, to complaining in my opinion, and you

1652
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:33,760
Speaker 4: know they tell true to that. So yeah, man, you know,

1653
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:35,439
Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to seeing on fans that I've known

1654
01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:37,400
Speaker 4: for the past ten years. You know, a lot of

1655
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:39,240
Speaker 4: guys in course out that I've known, you know, even

1656
01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:40,479
Speaker 4: just on the bench and whatnot.

1657
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:43,320
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be fun. He's got to know and

1658
01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 1: he's got to anticipate that they are going to be

1659
01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:49,760
Speaker 1: not only booze probably and maybe some of those would

1660
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:56,280
Speaker 1: be like lighthearted or conflicted booze. But if he doesn't

1661
01:29:56,280 --> 01:30:00,800
Speaker 1: play well, there's absolutely going to be jeering each time

1662
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:03,799
Speaker 1: that Turner misses a shot, If he commits a foul

1663
01:30:04,760 --> 01:30:06,360
Speaker 1: that he is going to hear it from the crowd

1664
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:09,840
Speaker 1: a lot. He may get booed every time he touches

1665
01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:13,920
Speaker 1: the ball. Truth be told, not just because of the

1666
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:18,919
Speaker 1: departure more on that in a second, but also because

1667
01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:21,479
Speaker 1: of some of the things that he has said on

1668
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 1: his way out, the things as I played about the

1669
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:27,600
Speaker 1: Tyres Haliburton clip that then when you listen to it

1670
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:31,519
Speaker 1: in totality, you go, Okay, I get it now. But

1671
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:35,160
Speaker 1: he has thrown words out there that have been like Plato,

1672
01:30:36,280 --> 01:30:38,200
Speaker 1: you can kind of twist him and mold him however

1673
01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:40,760
Speaker 1: you'd like to fit whatever narrative you'd like. And maybe

1674
01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:43,880
Speaker 1: that's on him for being vague in some of his

1675
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:49,759
Speaker 1: explanation Miles turner On in fact, those words becoming artwork,

1676
01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:50,400
Speaker 1: so to speak.

1677
01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:52,280
Speaker 4: It's just the media space, man. I feel like no

1678
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:53,800
Speaker 4: matter what I say, you can kind of flip it

1679
01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:55,880
Speaker 4: to fit your own narrative. In a sense. You know,

1680
01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:57,559
Speaker 4: I feel like I've been nothing of a complimentary you

1681
01:30:57,560 --> 01:31:00,040
Speaker 4: know of this fan base, you know of my former teammates,

1682
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:02,360
Speaker 4: and just you know my time here. You know what

1683
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:03,960
Speaker 4: I mean obviously, you know, being with a new team,

1684
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:05,360
Speaker 4: you know, moving forward, that's where I have to put

1685
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:07,479
Speaker 4: my attention and that's where you know it was intended

1686
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:09,400
Speaker 4: to be. So I think a lot of words and

1687
01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:10,680
Speaker 4: lines would have gone misconstrued just.

1688
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:17,000
Speaker 1: Thruwning off from things I said. The reality is that

1689
01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:22,800
Speaker 1: basketball and professional sports are a business and it is

1690
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:29,639
Speaker 1: hard for fans, for media, For myself, anybody, change can

1691
01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:33,920
Speaker 1: be hard. And I don't mean that to over dramatize

1692
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:37,439
Speaker 1: it or to you know, get to to like oversap it.

1693
01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:41,719
Speaker 1: But last year during the finals, and that was such

1694
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:47,439
Speaker 1: an incredible run, really was. It was an incredible run

1695
01:31:48,479 --> 01:31:52,160
Speaker 1: and it captivated the city and it was everything about

1696
01:31:52,160 --> 01:31:57,519
Speaker 1: it was magical. And when Tyrese Tyliburton was laying on

1697
01:31:57,560 --> 01:32:01,920
Speaker 1: the floor pounding the hardwood in Oklahoma City and the

1698
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:07,400
Speaker 1: reality that just like that it was over. It was

1699
01:32:07,439 --> 01:32:13,000
Speaker 1: the It was the pace, the turn of the emotion

1700
01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:17,639
Speaker 1: that was so hard. Maybe a bad comparison, but look

1701
01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:22,599
Speaker 1: at to start the weekend Game six of the World Series,

1702
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:26,240
Speaker 1: the Toronto Blue Jays are down. I think it was

1703
01:32:26,280 --> 01:32:30,000
Speaker 1: down one or two runs. They had runners on second

1704
01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:34,519
Speaker 1: and third with nobody out, and you're thinking they are

1705
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:37,519
Speaker 1: going and all those people inside the Rogers Center are

1706
01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:39,840
Speaker 1: thinking we are about to see the Blue Jays win

1707
01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:43,840
Speaker 1: the World Series. That they have two guys on it's

1708
01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:46,640
Speaker 1: at the very least I can't remember if if it

1709
01:32:46,640 --> 01:32:50,200
Speaker 1: would have forced extra innings or won the game. But

1710
01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:54,599
Speaker 1: the first pitch once Glass Now came in, first pitch,

1711
01:32:54,640 --> 01:32:57,639
Speaker 1: pop up, boom, won away, literally like two pitches later,

1712
01:32:57,760 --> 01:33:01,400
Speaker 1: the double play that ends it. It was the level

1713
01:33:01,479 --> 01:33:04,240
Speaker 1: in which that band aid was ripped off, and for

1714
01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:07,680
Speaker 1: Pacer fans, even though the Pacers were still leading at

1715
01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:12,160
Speaker 1: the half, it was the finality by which and the

1716
01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:14,679
Speaker 1: timing in which the band aid was ripped off from

1717
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:18,280
Speaker 1: title contention to wondering what could have been and where

1718
01:33:18,280 --> 01:33:22,640
Speaker 1: we go from here, And for so many people it

1719
01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:28,880
Speaker 1: was okay, Halliburton, when he comes back, if the whole

1720
01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:31,559
Speaker 1: corps is there, then let's run it back again and

1721
01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:34,479
Speaker 1: see what happens. And the only curve ball to that

1722
01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:39,120
Speaker 1: possibility is Miles Turner returning as a Pacer and being

1723
01:33:39,160 --> 01:33:41,800
Speaker 1: there for the twenty six to twenty seven season. But

1724
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:45,040
Speaker 1: Haliburton will give him a year to get healthy, gives

1725
01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:49,000
Speaker 1: more year for Ben Shephard and Jeris Walker to evolve,

1726
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:52,880
Speaker 1: maybe Ben Mathern to figure out where he slots in,

1727
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:55,760
Speaker 1: and then but a boom, there we go. Let's go

1728
01:33:56,640 --> 01:34:01,680
Speaker 1: title contention again, and what no one truly thought was

1729
01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:04,759
Speaker 1: going to happen. It seemed a FATA complete that Miles

1730
01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:10,679
Speaker 1: Turner was in fact going to return because Miles Turner

1731
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:13,920
Speaker 1: as a player, you can say that Miles Turner was

1732
01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:16,760
Speaker 1: just a good not great player, and there's probably a

1733
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:20,360
Speaker 1: lot of truth to that, but what Miles Turner did

1734
01:34:21,320 --> 01:34:26,519
Speaker 1: for this particular team was a great role because his

1735
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:30,320
Speaker 1: skill set is such that facilitates so much of the

1736
01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:34,120
Speaker 1: way Indiana played and the way they wanted to play.

1737
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:38,040
Speaker 1: And yeah, the Pacers had an unbelievable win Saturday night,

1738
01:34:38,280 --> 01:34:42,160
Speaker 1: right Aaron nee Smith goes off. Quentin Jackson we haven't

1739
01:34:42,160 --> 01:34:45,320
Speaker 1: even mentioned him, had an unbelievable game in Siakam as well,

1740
01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:48,760
Speaker 1: and Siakam is logging a lot of miles right now.

1741
01:34:49,680 --> 01:34:52,759
Speaker 1: And Turner was such an important thought to be peace

1742
01:34:53,200 --> 01:34:56,360
Speaker 1: to continuing to facilitate the way they play offensively and

1743
01:34:56,479 --> 01:34:59,479
Speaker 1: also to lighten the load a little bit in terms

1744
01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:06,679
Speaker 1: of those other But I think Kevin Pritchard was stunned.

1745
01:35:07,240 --> 01:35:10,599
Speaker 1: I think Rick Carlisle was stunned. I think Chad Buchanan

1746
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:13,240
Speaker 1: was stunned. I think Ted Wu was stunned. I think

1747
01:35:13,280 --> 01:35:16,080
Speaker 1: Herb Simon was stunned. When the news came out that

1748
01:35:16,120 --> 01:35:19,439
Speaker 1: Turner was going to sign with Milwaukee, not because they

1749
01:35:19,479 --> 01:35:23,719
Speaker 1: are naive to the business, because I don't think anybody

1750
01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:28,439
Speaker 1: anticipated that Milwaukee was going to pay top dollar for

1751
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:31,040
Speaker 1: a guy that isn't necessarily in terms of his style

1752
01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:36,439
Speaker 1: air dropping in to the top level of importance within

1753
01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:41,880
Speaker 1: a team like he was in Indiana. And so everyone,

1754
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:46,280
Speaker 1: including the media the fans here were hurt, not because

1755
01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:49,519
Speaker 1: necessarily they took it as a slight from Miles Turner,

1756
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:53,640
Speaker 1: as much as a denial of what was anticipated to be,

1757
01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:56,799
Speaker 1: which was the chance to run it all back. Because

1758
01:35:57,160 --> 01:35:59,719
Speaker 1: the finality and the way it came and that band

1759
01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:02,160
Speaker 1: aid be ripped off was so fast we had not

1760
01:36:02,439 --> 01:36:06,439
Speaker 1: yet recuperated from that sting. We may never But Miles

1761
01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:09,960
Speaker 1: Turner on why in fact now a Milwaukee Buck and

1762
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:11,200
Speaker 1: not an Indiana Pacer.

1763
01:36:11,479 --> 01:36:15,439
Speaker 4: I feel like we'll talk about value Flower, your value

1764
01:36:15,479 --> 01:36:17,000
Speaker 4: in a sense, and I feel like the front office

1765
01:36:17,240 --> 01:36:19,680
Speaker 4: and you know, the ownership value me Milwaukee more than

1766
01:36:19,720 --> 01:36:21,519
Speaker 4: the front office and the ownership may value me here

1767
01:36:21,520 --> 01:36:24,000
Speaker 4: in Indiana. So again, I wasn't a shot at the fans.

1768
01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:26,280
Speaker 4: I see how fans would have took that personally, you know,

1769
01:36:26,360 --> 01:36:27,880
Speaker 4: just just how fresh you were off of you know,

1770
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:30,280
Speaker 4: such a great run and whatnot. But again I'm gonna

1771
01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:32,360
Speaker 4: seek the running the camera by no means anything I

1772
01:36:32,439 --> 01:36:34,960
Speaker 4: said I ain't doing with the fans or the city man.

1773
01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:37,640
Speaker 4: You know, I said, there's strictly a business of just

1774
01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:39,519
Speaker 4: you know, a business decision for me personally.

1775
01:36:41,360 --> 01:36:47,479
Speaker 1: I go back to I truly believe this. I truly

1776
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:51,919
Speaker 1: believe this. I think it all changed when the Pacers

1777
01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:55,920
Speaker 1: made that offer sheet to DeAndre Eid. I think it

1778
01:36:56,000 --> 01:37:00,639
Speaker 1: all changed then. And you can be in relationship with people,

1779
01:37:02,360 --> 01:37:08,559
Speaker 1: whether it be a spouse, a significant other, a best friend,

1780
01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:13,160
Speaker 1: a coach, you can be your boss. You can be

1781
01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:15,840
Speaker 1: in relationships with people and in the heat of the

1782
01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:20,160
Speaker 1: moment they say something to you that then they have

1783
01:37:20,400 --> 01:37:23,400
Speaker 1: every regret in the world, and they tearfully apologize, and

1784
01:37:23,439 --> 01:37:25,280
Speaker 1: they send you flowers and they send you a card

1785
01:37:25,320 --> 01:37:28,200
Speaker 1: and they're like, look, I did not mean what I said.

1786
01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:31,360
Speaker 1: There was a heat of the moment. It was unfair.

1787
01:37:31,439 --> 01:37:33,800
Speaker 1: I said something because I was trying to strike a nerve.

1788
01:37:34,360 --> 01:37:36,880
Speaker 1: And I now that I have a chance to step

1789
01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:40,160
Speaker 1: back and look at it, I have terrible regret over

1790
01:37:40,200 --> 01:37:44,080
Speaker 1: what I said to you. And you can accept their

1791
01:37:44,120 --> 01:37:48,360
Speaker 1: apology and you can believe that and three hundred and

1792
01:37:48,400 --> 01:37:51,400
Speaker 1: sixty three days a year. You can say, I believe them,

1793
01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:53,840
Speaker 1: they didn't mean that. The words came out, but they

1794
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:58,000
Speaker 1: didn't mean it. But then every once in a while,

1795
01:37:58,080 --> 01:37:59,640
Speaker 1: when you start to get into a little bit of

1796
01:37:59,640 --> 01:38:04,800
Speaker 1: a disc agreement with him, that wound sparks back up

1797
01:38:06,040 --> 01:38:08,240
Speaker 1: and those words come back out, and you're like, did

1798
01:38:08,240 --> 01:38:12,519
Speaker 1: they really mean it? And you can't fully release that.

1799
01:38:12,800 --> 01:38:18,479
Speaker 1: Now you can say, as you're listening to me, say that, well, Jake,

1800
01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:22,720
Speaker 1: you might feel that way, but I'm more mature than that.

1801
01:38:22,960 --> 01:38:25,439
Speaker 1: I get it. But I think all of us have

1802
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:28,599
Speaker 1: had some point in their life where that has come up.

1803
01:38:29,240 --> 01:38:32,080
Speaker 1: And in the case of Myles Turner, I really believe

1804
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:38,680
Speaker 1: the discussion of trades not always precipitated or facilitated by

1805
01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:44,800
Speaker 1: the PACER's front office, and maybe the lack of the

1806
01:38:44,840 --> 01:38:47,639
Speaker 1: shutdown of discussion of trades. When it came to Myles Turner,

1807
01:38:48,360 --> 01:38:50,200
Speaker 1: that was always there, and he did a good job

1808
01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:52,839
Speaker 1: of playing through that, and the pacers, to their credit,

1809
01:38:53,800 --> 01:38:56,439
Speaker 1: gave him and structured his payment in such a way

1810
01:38:56,640 --> 01:38:59,679
Speaker 1: that he made really good money. Here, let's not pretend

1811
01:38:59,680 --> 01:39:03,240
Speaker 1: that the like just totally took advantage of and took

1812
01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:06,680
Speaker 1: for granted, Miles Turner not the case. Miles Turner made

1813
01:39:06,680 --> 01:39:10,280
Speaker 1: really good money here and was paid a substantial basically

1814
01:39:10,320 --> 01:39:15,240
Speaker 1: bonus in his penultimate year here, made really good money.

1815
01:39:16,240 --> 01:39:18,439
Speaker 1: But I really think when it came down to it,

1816
01:39:19,040 --> 01:39:24,800
Speaker 1: that he played through the whole Diandrey Aighton saga, and

1817
01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:27,599
Speaker 1: that was like a six hour saga. But he played

1818
01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:32,720
Speaker 1: through it, moved on from it, forgot about it, just

1819
01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:35,639
Speaker 1: like you did when whoever it was that said something

1820
01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:38,520
Speaker 1: that hurt your feelings hurt your feelings and then apologized

1821
01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:41,519
Speaker 1: to you and you kissed and made up until there

1822
01:39:41,560 --> 01:39:44,160
Speaker 1: was another time where you guys got into a disagreement

1823
01:39:44,240 --> 01:39:47,479
Speaker 1: or a discussion or an argument, and that wound, that

1824
01:39:47,640 --> 01:39:50,839
Speaker 1: emotion that you thought was completely out of your body,

1825
01:39:51,439 --> 01:39:53,760
Speaker 1: showed that it was like that chicken pox virus and

1826
01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:57,479
Speaker 1: it came back. And I think that's exactly what happened.

1827
01:39:57,520 --> 01:39:59,320
Speaker 1: I think when it came down to it, and he

1828
01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:04,080
Speaker 1: went into free agency discussions with the Pacers, he anticipated

1829
01:40:04,280 --> 01:40:06,599
Speaker 1: that Indiana was going to come in and make him

1830
01:40:06,600 --> 01:40:11,600
Speaker 1: an offer that was a lifetime Achievement award, and the Pacers,

1831
01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:14,840
Speaker 1: in their defense and understandably so had to play it

1832
01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:18,360
Speaker 1: closer to the vest, because they also were thinking about, Okay,

1833
01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:20,479
Speaker 1: what are we going to do if we want to

1834
01:40:20,720 --> 01:40:23,200
Speaker 1: extend Aaron Nee Smith, What are we going to do

1835
01:40:23,280 --> 01:40:27,600
Speaker 1: if we want to extend eventually Benedict Mathern, whether that

1836
01:40:27,640 --> 01:40:30,719
Speaker 1: happens or not, or Ben Sheppard or Jaris Walker, whoever

1837
01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:34,479
Speaker 1: it may be. They had to consider the shell game

1838
01:40:34,600 --> 01:40:37,360
Speaker 1: of it all, and it was in the Pacers' best

1839
01:40:37,400 --> 01:40:41,880
Speaker 1: interest to throw a lower number, knowing that that was

1840
01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:44,240
Speaker 1: a number below what they were going to end up

1841
01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:47,320
Speaker 1: eventually signing with, but throw a low number to see

1842
01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:50,080
Speaker 1: how low they could start it, and then meet halfway

1843
01:40:50,080 --> 01:40:52,960
Speaker 1: in between. And what Indiana did not know is that

1844
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:57,200
Speaker 1: Milwaukee had already come and said, look, here is your offer.

1845
01:40:57,600 --> 01:40:59,200
Speaker 1: We're going to blow them out of the water with

1846
01:40:59,240 --> 01:41:04,200
Speaker 1: this offer, and but you have to take this within

1847
01:41:04,320 --> 01:41:07,280
Speaker 1: this timeframe and you cannot use it as a measuring

1848
01:41:07,280 --> 01:41:13,400
Speaker 1: stick for Indiana. And so that discussion and hearing another

1849
01:41:13,479 --> 01:41:16,040
Speaker 1: team involved and offer sheets and all of those things,

1850
01:41:16,120 --> 01:41:18,559
Speaker 1: the DeAndre Eaton thing came back and he just said,

1851
01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:21,760
Speaker 1: you know what, enough enough, they had their chance. Enough.

1852
01:41:23,320 --> 01:41:25,920
Speaker 1: Not saying it makes him right, not saying it exonerates him,

1853
01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:28,080
Speaker 1: not saying it makes the Pacers wrong. I think the

1854
01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:29,840
Speaker 1: Pacers were on the right and the whole thing. The

1855
01:41:29,880 --> 01:41:32,799
Speaker 1: Pacers offered Miles Turner market value for what Miles Turner

1856
01:41:32,880 --> 01:41:37,400
Speaker 1: was going to be to them in twenty six market value,

1857
01:41:37,720 --> 01:41:39,679
Speaker 1: the starting point of market value. I think they knew

1858
01:41:39,680 --> 01:41:41,360
Speaker 1: it was probably a low offer, but they were not

1859
01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:45,559
Speaker 1: anticipating that there was a counter already out there. So

1860
01:41:46,120 --> 01:41:51,599
Speaker 1: here it is now, and that's where things stand, right

1861
01:41:51,680 --> 01:41:55,040
Speaker 1: that that is where things stand. And if you look

1862
01:41:55,120 --> 01:41:57,360
Speaker 1: at Miles Turner the last year that he was here,

1863
01:41:58,080 --> 01:42:03,200
Speaker 1: you know, he made twenty five million, twenty five million.

1864
01:42:04,080 --> 01:42:06,880
Speaker 1: He made twenty one million in twenty three, and he

1865
01:42:06,960 --> 01:42:10,640
Speaker 1: made thirty five million in twenty two, so he had

1866
01:42:10,680 --> 01:42:13,920
Speaker 1: bonus money in there, and all told he had made

1867
01:42:13,960 --> 01:42:16,800
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty million from Indiana. But it's going

1868
01:42:16,840 --> 01:42:19,760
Speaker 1: to be fun tonight, no question about it. It was

1869
01:42:19,800 --> 01:42:23,800
Speaker 1: not fun for the Colts yesterday Shane Steichen and Pittsburgh

1870
01:42:23,880 --> 01:42:27,120
Speaker 1: again being a terror house for the Colts have not

1871
01:42:27,160 --> 01:42:33,040
Speaker 1: won there since two thousand and eight, and yesterday Daniel

1872
01:42:33,120 --> 01:42:37,960
Speaker 1: Jones reverted back to the Daniel Jones of old, and

1873
01:42:38,240 --> 01:42:43,960
Speaker 1: we talk about things awakening, things all of a sudden

1874
01:42:44,320 --> 01:42:46,639
Speaker 1: that you had forgotten about and worked through and played through,

1875
01:42:46,680 --> 01:42:50,519
Speaker 1: and then something happens and it reawakens in you. And

1876
01:42:50,560 --> 01:42:53,200
Speaker 1: for Daniel Jones, did that come to mind? Did that

1877
01:42:53,680 --> 01:42:58,519
Speaker 1: thought process enter his head when he sees TJ. Watt

1878
01:42:58,520 --> 01:43:02,080
Speaker 1: coming around the end and getting around Braden Smith, When

1879
01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:05,640
Speaker 1: he sees that offensive line struggling, and not only is

1880
01:43:05,640 --> 01:43:08,200
Speaker 1: he throwing interceptions and not getting quickly, not getting through

1881
01:43:08,240 --> 01:43:10,040
Speaker 1: his reads because he doesn't have time to do so,

1882
01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:13,639
Speaker 1: but he's fumbling the football. And yet the Colts lost

1883
01:43:13,680 --> 01:43:16,680
Speaker 1: a game where they had six turnovers. And yeah, I

1884
01:43:16,720 --> 01:43:18,439
Speaker 1: mean it was more than a seven point game, but

1885
01:43:18,479 --> 01:43:20,519
Speaker 1: in the end, it was a seven point game. There

1886
01:43:20,520 --> 01:43:24,920
Speaker 1: were errors all over the place. Literally the Colts in

1887
01:43:24,960 --> 01:43:29,280
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh yesterday, both offensively on their line and defensively for

1888
01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:33,080
Speaker 1: that matter, but notably special teams and offense. They looked

1889
01:43:33,120 --> 01:43:36,800
Speaker 1: like I did at freshman algebra, blown assignments all over

1890
01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:42,200
Speaker 1: the place. But Daniel Jones, you have to then look

1891
01:43:42,200 --> 01:43:44,559
Speaker 1: at it and say, does he revert back now from

1892
01:43:44,600 --> 01:43:48,639
Speaker 1: this or is he a pros pro that is able

1893
01:43:48,680 --> 01:43:54,160
Speaker 1: to in fact leave it and move on. For Shane Steiken,

1894
01:43:54,280 --> 01:43:58,960
Speaker 1: the question becomes, if you have a quarterback that is struggling.

1895
01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:01,639
Speaker 1: If you have a quarterback that they are not able

1896
01:44:01,680 --> 01:44:07,880
Speaker 1: to protect, then why were you not doing more to

1897
01:44:08,000 --> 01:44:11,280
Speaker 1: take pressure off of him, like, for example, giving the

1898
01:44:11,280 --> 01:44:16,759
Speaker 1: football to Jonathan Taylor. Shane Stiken, who has been brilliant

1899
01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:18,840
Speaker 1: for the Colts this year, who has worked perfectly with

1900
01:44:18,960 --> 01:44:22,800
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones side by side, symbiotically calling every single thing

1901
01:44:22,840 --> 01:44:26,240
Speaker 1: perfectly all year long. Yesterday, to a great extent, Shane

1902
01:44:26,240 --> 01:44:29,960
Speaker 1: Styken failed Daniel Jones because Daniel Jones was struggling. Daniel

1903
01:44:30,040 --> 01:44:33,120
Speaker 1: Jones had no time And yeah, you could certainly make

1904
01:44:33,160 --> 01:44:36,519
Speaker 1: the case, Jake, you're a moron. If they're sacking Daniel

1905
01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:39,280
Speaker 1: Jones and they're rushing him that much, what in the

1906
01:44:39,320 --> 01:44:41,080
Speaker 1: world makes you think that they would be able to

1907
01:44:41,680 --> 01:44:45,160
Speaker 1: uncork Jonathan Taylor. Well, because Jonathan Taylor has the vision

1908
01:44:45,240 --> 01:44:48,479
Speaker 1: and the step to occasionally get himself free. We know this, right,

1909
01:44:48,720 --> 01:44:51,639
Speaker 1: It's not like Jonathan Taylor has played behind the eighty

1910
01:44:51,640 --> 01:44:54,800
Speaker 1: three redskin Hogs his entire career. The line this year

1911
01:44:54,840 --> 01:44:59,439
Speaker 1: has been brilliant, brilliant until yesterday. But you could have

1912
01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:02,519
Speaker 1: opened things up and soften things out for Daniel Jones

1913
01:45:02,720 --> 01:45:05,680
Speaker 1: by running the football Shane stich In yesterday on the

1914
01:45:05,760 --> 01:45:07,320
Speaker 1: lack of carries of Jonathan Taylor.

1915
01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:08,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, could I have got some more carries in there

1916
01:45:08,920 --> 01:45:09,160
Speaker 6: for him?

1917
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

1918
01:45:09,439 --> 01:45:09,839
Speaker 2: Probably.

1919
01:45:10,479 --> 01:45:11,680
Speaker 1: They did some good things, you.

1920
01:45:11,680 --> 01:45:13,519
Speaker 6: Know, stopping the run earlier, Agett some you know, two

1921
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:16,680
Speaker 6: three yard carries and whatnot, and then we've got to

1922
01:45:16,720 --> 01:45:18,439
Speaker 6: go in there a little bit. And then obviously he

1923
01:45:18,520 --> 01:45:21,080
Speaker 6: had the turnovers that stops some drives. But yeah, we'll

1924
01:45:21,080 --> 01:45:23,000
Speaker 6: always look at those things and go from there.

1925
01:45:24,439 --> 01:45:29,519
Speaker 1: So Jones himself, you know, the interceptions are one thing,

1926
01:45:31,360 --> 01:45:34,639
Speaker 1: and then the fumbles in terms of just the TJ

1927
01:45:34,760 --> 01:45:37,080
Speaker 1: watt on one of them just made unbelievable play. I mean,

1928
01:45:37,080 --> 01:45:41,479
Speaker 1: you have to say that, right, But Daniel Jones did

1929
01:45:41,560 --> 01:45:46,360
Speaker 1: discuss afterwards just the fumbles and the lack of protection

1930
01:45:46,439 --> 01:45:47,040
Speaker 1: of the football.

1931
01:45:47,160 --> 01:45:50,879
Speaker 7: Fundamentally, it's always about keeping the ball tight and securing

1932
01:45:50,920 --> 01:45:53,519
Speaker 7: it something that we work and I just got to

1933
01:45:53,520 --> 01:45:55,360
Speaker 7: make sure I do a better job with that and

1934
01:45:55,400 --> 01:45:57,760
Speaker 7: then getting the ball out on time when I can.

1935
01:45:57,840 --> 01:45:58,960
Speaker 2: So I think that's it's.

1936
01:45:58,800 --> 01:46:00,479
Speaker 7: Always my job credit to And they have a good

1937
01:46:00,520 --> 01:46:03,439
Speaker 7: pass rush and guys who can who can who can

1938
01:46:03,439 --> 01:46:05,320
Speaker 7: really rush, so you know, knowing that I gotta I

1939
01:46:05,320 --> 01:46:06,120
Speaker 7: gotta get the ball out.

1940
01:46:06,640 --> 01:46:13,120
Speaker 1: Now. What you have to hope is that that did

1941
01:46:13,160 --> 01:46:16,920
Speaker 1: not reawaken Daniel Jones was a guy that had had

1942
01:46:17,080 --> 01:46:19,920
Speaker 1: a good start in New York and got himself a

1943
01:46:19,920 --> 01:46:22,320
Speaker 1: big contract. But he had that good start and he

1944
01:46:22,360 --> 01:46:25,800
Speaker 1: got that big contract when Sakuon Barkley was or how

1945
01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:30,120
Speaker 1: do you say his name, shy Sean Barkley, shay Sean Bockley,

1946
01:46:30,760 --> 01:46:33,439
Speaker 1: Eddie Garrison wakes up when I when I mentioned it

1947
01:46:33,479 --> 01:46:36,719
Speaker 1: that way, Sakuon Barkley was a big part of getting

1948
01:46:36,760 --> 01:46:41,240
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones comfortable and and in rhythm as an NFL player.

1949
01:46:42,600 --> 01:46:48,040
Speaker 1: And once Barkley was gone, Jones really regressed and Taylor,

1950
01:46:48,080 --> 01:46:50,600
Speaker 1: by no stretch of the imagination was taken away. You know,

1951
01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:55,439
Speaker 1: it's not like he's gone. But by not facilitating Taylor,

1952
01:46:55,800 --> 01:47:00,240
Speaker 1: by not getting him going again theme for the day,

1953
01:47:00,479 --> 01:47:04,639
Speaker 1: I think it reverted back to like the old scab

1954
01:47:04,680 --> 01:47:07,880
Speaker 1: wounds were opened up for Daniel Jones, where then he

1955
01:47:08,040 --> 01:47:12,360
Speaker 1: was suddenly a New York Giant quarterback that was getting

1956
01:47:12,439 --> 01:47:16,559
Speaker 1: rushed and starting to make poor decisions for a guy

1957
01:47:16,600 --> 01:47:21,360
Speaker 1: who so far this year has been brilliant, and that

1958
01:47:21,560 --> 01:47:28,240
Speaker 1: is part of why. And the other thing today that's

1959
01:47:28,280 --> 01:47:32,720
Speaker 1: the theme. Fool me once and shame on you, but

1960
01:47:32,760 --> 01:47:35,960
Speaker 1: fool me twice in shame on me. And what Chris

1961
01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:42,320
Speaker 1: Ballard needs to figure out with Daniel Jones is is

1962
01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:44,479
Speaker 1: this the game where it was, Hey, you know what, like,

1963
01:47:47,439 --> 01:47:51,080
Speaker 1: fool me once? Okay, sure, shame on you. You made mistakes.

1964
01:47:51,080 --> 01:47:54,400
Speaker 1: You had a bad day the Colts in general, not

1965
01:47:54,439 --> 01:47:56,759
Speaker 1: just on Daniel Jones. It's mostly on the protection. Actually

1966
01:47:56,880 --> 01:47:59,080
Speaker 1: that offensive line that has been so brilliant, so good.

1967
01:47:59,120 --> 01:48:03,760
Speaker 1: We talked about it last but is this was yesterday

1968
01:48:03,800 --> 01:48:10,280
Speaker 1: the anomaly? Was yesterday the exception to the rule of

1969
01:48:10,320 --> 01:48:15,840
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five Colts, or was yesterday the rule?

1970
01:48:16,439 --> 01:48:20,040
Speaker 1: And there was a danger in living by the exception,

1971
01:48:20,360 --> 01:48:23,679
Speaker 1: which had been the way they'd played until yesterday, because

1972
01:48:23,680 --> 01:48:27,760
Speaker 1: if you look at the schedule, and I think personally,

1973
01:48:27,880 --> 01:48:32,439
Speaker 1: yesterday was the exception because the Rams are darn good

1974
01:48:32,720 --> 01:48:36,840
Speaker 1: and they were right there not protecting the football story

1975
01:48:36,840 --> 01:48:39,960
Speaker 1: in that game. The Broncos are darn good, and yes

1976
01:48:40,040 --> 01:48:43,000
Speaker 1: they should have lost to Denver, but they win that game.

1977
01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:48,080
Speaker 1: The Chargers are darn good and they controlled that game.

1978
01:48:48,439 --> 01:48:50,800
Speaker 1: But more importantly, what good teams do is when they're

1979
01:48:50,840 --> 01:48:55,120
Speaker 1: playing bad teams, they seize control and never let go

1980
01:48:55,160 --> 01:48:59,160
Speaker 1: of it. Miami controlled the whole game, Tennessee controlled the

1981
01:48:59,200 --> 01:49:03,799
Speaker 1: whole game, Aids controlled the whole game. But if, in fact,

1982
01:49:03,960 --> 01:49:07,439
Speaker 1: yesterday was the exception to the rule, then we're going

1983
01:49:07,479 --> 01:49:09,920
Speaker 1: to find out, because now it gets real. Atlanta's got

1984
01:49:09,960 --> 01:49:11,439
Speaker 1: a good defense. Not a very good team, but they

1985
01:49:11,479 --> 01:49:16,120
Speaker 1: got a good defense. Kansas City obviously a challenge there,

1986
01:49:17,040 --> 01:49:21,360
Speaker 1: back to back tricky divisional games, and then Seattle San

1987
01:49:21,360 --> 01:49:25,639
Speaker 1: Francisco a couple of tough teams. So Chris Ballard's gonna

1988
01:49:25,680 --> 01:49:28,680
Speaker 1: have decision and analysis to make on Daniel Jones to

1989
01:49:28,840 --> 01:49:34,040
Speaker 1: make sure that yesterday was the exception. I think it was,

1990
01:49:34,160 --> 01:49:41,920
Speaker 1: and I hope it was. Miles Turner's back Milwaukee at

1991
01:49:41,920 --> 01:49:44,320
Speaker 1: the field House tonight taking on the Pacers, and we're

1992
01:49:44,320 --> 01:49:51,280
Speaker 1: going to go to Milwaukee and discuss exactly that next track. Dude,

1993
01:49:51,280 --> 01:49:55,320
Speaker 1: Michael Young was pretty excited over the fact that apparently

1994
01:49:55,360 --> 01:49:59,559
Speaker 1: next year for the IndyCar event, it's the same weekend

1995
01:49:59,680 --> 01:50:03,280
Speaker 1: that Rush will be performing in Toronto, and he's like,

1996
01:50:03,320 --> 01:50:07,200
Speaker 1: we gotta go, we gotta go, and I Dave First

1997
01:50:07,360 --> 01:50:12,920
Speaker 1: is equally on this bandwagon. I am not ashamed to admit,

1998
01:50:13,240 --> 01:50:16,800
Speaker 1: I totally understand why people like him, and I don't

1999
01:50:16,880 --> 01:50:18,840
Speaker 1: dislike Rush per se, but I've just kind of never

2000
01:50:18,840 --> 01:50:22,400
Speaker 1: gotten it. I don't know. There's something about the band

2001
01:50:22,439 --> 01:50:26,040
Speaker 1: Rush that people people literally will throw it down a

2002
01:50:26,040 --> 01:50:28,400
Speaker 1: flight of stairs about Rush, and I'm like, yeah, okay,

2003
01:50:29,560 --> 01:50:31,679
Speaker 1: kind of never gotten it, right, Eddie, you like Rush,

2004
01:50:31,720 --> 01:50:32,559
Speaker 1: don't like Rush?

2005
01:50:32,840 --> 01:50:35,479
Speaker 8: Oh okay. I like a couple of their songs, that one.

2006
01:50:35,560 --> 01:50:38,479
Speaker 8: Tom Sawyer, Yeah.

2007
01:50:37,680 --> 01:50:41,600
Speaker 1: Very unique voice in sound joining us now in the

2008
01:50:41,640 --> 01:50:43,400
Speaker 1: job of house peel and poor guest line. He is,

2009
01:50:43,640 --> 01:50:46,479
Speaker 1: of course a return guest to the program, going back

2010
01:50:46,479 --> 01:50:49,880
Speaker 1: to the playoffs from last year, talking about with Bucks

2011
01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:53,800
Speaker 1: Radio Network and Locked on Bucks, Justin Garcia joining us

2012
01:50:53,880 --> 01:50:57,719
Speaker 1: and Justin whoever would have guessed back when we were

2013
01:50:58,800 --> 01:51:02,280
Speaker 1: talking about the the budding rivalry between the Pacers and

2014
01:51:02,360 --> 01:51:05,960
Speaker 1: the Bucks that the day would come when we would

2015
01:51:05,960 --> 01:51:09,000
Speaker 1: be discussing Miles Turner suiting up on the other side

2016
01:51:09,000 --> 01:51:12,960
Speaker 1: of things for Milwaukee and it's going to be a

2017
01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:15,040
Speaker 1: fun one tonight at the field House. As a result

2018
01:51:15,120 --> 01:51:18,679
Speaker 1: of that. From the Indiana standpoint, it's a major talking

2019
01:51:18,800 --> 01:51:21,519
Speaker 1: point about Miles Turner, what about on the Milwaukee side

2020
01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:23,839
Speaker 1: and their fan base yeah.

2021
01:51:23,880 --> 01:51:25,960
Speaker 9: Well, I mean, first of all, I'm indifferent on Rush

2022
01:51:26,080 --> 01:51:29,880
Speaker 9: as well, so I'm with you guys. It's certainly big

2023
01:51:30,120 --> 01:51:34,160
Speaker 9: out here. I mean, I think the rivalry was probably

2024
01:51:34,400 --> 01:51:37,200
Speaker 9: bigger for the Bucks than the Pacers the last couple

2025
01:51:37,240 --> 01:51:38,880
Speaker 9: of years. Is that fair to say, because you guys

2026
01:51:38,920 --> 01:51:42,800
Speaker 9: won all the matchups and the Bucks didn't. But it

2027
01:51:42,960 --> 01:51:45,479
Speaker 9: certainly kicked up the level of intrigue. I mean, I

2028
01:51:45,520 --> 01:51:49,720
Speaker 9: remember the day that the news broke, we all assumed

2029
01:51:49,880 --> 01:51:52,479
Speaker 9: this was some type of Simon trade that the Bucks

2030
01:51:52,479 --> 01:51:55,439
Speaker 9: had managed to pull off with the Pacers, and then

2031
01:51:55,520 --> 01:51:57,880
Speaker 9: learning that Damian Lillard that's waved and stretched and this

2032
01:51:57,920 --> 01:52:01,479
Speaker 9: team is going in a totally different direction. And I

2033
01:52:01,520 --> 01:52:04,280
Speaker 9: think both fan bases probably did an immediate one to

2034
01:52:04,280 --> 01:52:07,799
Speaker 9: eighty on Miles Turner that he was not quite Tyree

2035
01:52:07,800 --> 01:52:10,360
Speaker 9: Celibert levels, but he was a big one in the

2036
01:52:10,360 --> 01:52:13,439
Speaker 9: Bucks side, especially when you compared him to Lopez, and

2037
01:52:13,560 --> 01:52:16,800
Speaker 9: he instantly became one of the two or three most

2038
01:52:16,880 --> 01:52:20,000
Speaker 9: popular players on this team. So I know there's a

2039
01:52:20,040 --> 01:52:22,320
Speaker 9: lot of intrigue on the Indie side, but I think

2040
01:52:22,320 --> 01:52:25,280
Speaker 9: for Bucks fans too, they just want to go to

2041
01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:27,720
Speaker 9: Indiana and finally beat the Pacers.

2042
01:52:28,200 --> 01:52:29,760
Speaker 1: How has he played so far.

2043
01:52:30,720 --> 01:52:31,679
Speaker 2: I think he's been okay.

2044
01:52:31,920 --> 01:52:34,080
Speaker 9: You know, I think if you look at the numbers,

2045
01:52:34,120 --> 01:52:36,880
Speaker 9: it certainly doesn't jump off the page. I think there's

2046
01:52:36,920 --> 01:52:40,360
Speaker 9: still a lot of trying to figure out how he

2047
01:52:40,439 --> 01:52:43,960
Speaker 9: fits in alongside Yiannis. I think, honestly, the only real

2048
01:52:44,040 --> 01:52:46,360
Speaker 9: complaints that you would have is you'd like him to

2049
01:52:46,400 --> 01:52:49,960
Speaker 9: be a little more aggressive so far, but there's a

2050
01:52:49,960 --> 01:52:52,559
Speaker 9: lot of little things that he's brought. His defense, as

2051
01:52:52,600 --> 01:52:56,360
Speaker 9: we expected, has been terrific, and he's able to replicate

2052
01:52:56,400 --> 01:52:58,439
Speaker 9: a lot of what Brook Lopez did, but obviously give

2053
01:52:58,479 --> 01:53:01,960
Speaker 9: you more with some more of his verse fatility. But

2054
01:53:02,160 --> 01:53:04,439
Speaker 9: he's brought in and he talked about this at media

2055
01:53:04,479 --> 01:53:07,200
Speaker 9: day too, wanting to be an agent of change.

2056
01:53:07,240 --> 01:53:09,000
Speaker 8: I think is that he turned it.

2057
01:53:09,640 --> 01:53:11,920
Speaker 9: He's brought in a lot of that with this group

2058
01:53:12,040 --> 01:53:14,360
Speaker 9: that I know a lot of the players had talked

2059
01:53:14,360 --> 01:53:16,920
Speaker 9: to Miles two and kind of started to pick his

2060
01:53:16,960 --> 01:53:20,080
Speaker 9: brain of how did you guys have so many comebacks

2061
01:53:20,240 --> 01:53:22,160
Speaker 9: last year? Like what did you do? And the way

2062
01:53:22,200 --> 01:53:25,040
Speaker 9: they moved without the ball and their offensive movement. Overall,

2063
01:53:25,479 --> 01:53:27,599
Speaker 9: he's been the guy that's kind of steered a lot

2064
01:53:27,640 --> 01:53:31,040
Speaker 9: of that where if you watch the Bucks offensively this season,

2065
01:53:31,160 --> 01:53:33,720
Speaker 9: it's I mean, obviously there's no dame, but just the

2066
01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:37,040
Speaker 9: way they're playing, it's night and day from how things

2067
01:53:37,080 --> 01:53:38,960
Speaker 9: were the last two or three years.

2068
01:53:39,640 --> 01:53:42,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. The the thing about Miles Turner when he was here,

2069
01:53:43,200 --> 01:53:48,960
Speaker 1: you know, obviously Justin is the I always thought that

2070
01:53:49,040 --> 01:53:56,160
Speaker 1: Turner was a piece for Indiana that facilitated and contributed

2071
01:53:56,200 --> 01:53:59,120
Speaker 1: in ways that weren't necessarily statistical, because he was just

2072
01:53:59,160 --> 01:54:01,599
Speaker 1: a conduit to the way that the Pacers wanted to play.

2073
01:54:01,640 --> 01:54:04,080
Speaker 1: By having that I mean you know that, I mean,

2074
01:54:04,120 --> 01:54:05,800
Speaker 1: you know, his ability to pass out of the high

2075
01:54:05,840 --> 01:54:09,320
Speaker 1: post and then his rim protection and his ability to

2076
01:54:09,360 --> 01:54:13,000
Speaker 1: shoot from the outside. And I guess Lopez would have

2077
01:54:13,080 --> 01:54:16,040
Speaker 1: been a similar type player for Milwaukee. And maybe that's

2078
01:54:16,080 --> 01:54:18,680
Speaker 1: the role that he is looking to fill in, or

2079
01:54:18,720 --> 01:54:22,000
Speaker 1: they're looking for him to fill in. But the one

2080
01:54:22,080 --> 01:54:24,800
Speaker 1: thing that I guess I would be curious of, and

2081
01:54:24,800 --> 01:54:30,640
Speaker 1: that is what how critical a role is he expected

2082
01:54:30,680 --> 01:54:33,120
Speaker 1: to be once it all comes together in Milwaukee? Is

2083
01:54:33,160 --> 01:54:36,000
Speaker 1: he thought to be Are they looking at it saying

2084
01:54:36,000 --> 01:54:40,280
Speaker 1: Miles Turner is going to be the robin to the

2085
01:54:40,280 --> 01:54:41,240
Speaker 1: batman of Giannis.

2086
01:54:43,400 --> 01:54:45,960
Speaker 2: I don't think it's that level. And I think that's

2087
01:54:46,000 --> 01:54:48,560
Speaker 2: where a lot of the number one.

2088
01:54:48,600 --> 01:54:50,920
Speaker 9: If you're carry him close to twenty five million dollars

2089
01:54:50,920 --> 01:54:53,160
Speaker 9: in dead cap space, that's going to bring some skepticism

2090
01:54:53,200 --> 01:54:55,160
Speaker 9: with the waveing and stretching of being But I think

2091
01:54:55,200 --> 01:54:57,960
Speaker 9: the other part that some people would push back on

2092
01:54:58,280 --> 01:55:00,000
Speaker 9: was do you expect this guy to be your second

2093
01:55:00,040 --> 01:55:03,960
Speaker 9: best player? I think if you factor in both ends

2094
01:55:04,000 --> 01:55:06,760
Speaker 9: of the floor, it's a discussion. Offensively, I don't think

2095
01:55:06,760 --> 01:55:09,720
Speaker 9: that was ever the intention for this group. That they

2096
01:55:09,840 --> 01:55:12,720
Speaker 9: just wanted some more versatility in that spot. They wanted

2097
01:55:12,760 --> 01:55:15,960
Speaker 9: him to be a defender that allows you to play

2098
01:55:16,000 --> 01:55:18,320
Speaker 9: the same way with two bigs that are seven footers

2099
01:55:18,360 --> 01:55:20,960
Speaker 9: that can protect the m but get away from just

2100
01:55:21,040 --> 01:55:23,960
Speaker 9: the traditional drop defense and have Miles play out on

2101
01:55:23,960 --> 01:55:26,120
Speaker 9: the perimeter a little bit more and free up the

2102
01:55:26,200 --> 01:55:28,920
Speaker 9: honest even more so. But I think the bigger thing,

2103
01:55:29,000 --> 01:55:32,640
Speaker 9: too is the Bucks have really pushed and we heard this.

2104
01:55:32,720 --> 01:55:34,960
Speaker 9: I mean every team has said two things through the

2105
01:55:35,000 --> 01:55:37,560
Speaker 9: offseason and training camp of we want to play faster

2106
01:55:37,640 --> 01:55:40,160
Speaker 9: and we want to take more threes. The Bucks especially

2107
01:55:40,200 --> 01:55:42,840
Speaker 9: said that going back to the summer league that they

2108
01:55:42,880 --> 01:55:45,160
Speaker 9: were the most efficient three point shooting team in the league.

2109
01:55:45,200 --> 01:55:47,240
Speaker 9: But I think they were eighteenth in the temps per game,

2110
01:55:47,760 --> 01:55:51,080
Speaker 9: So they were fine if the efficiency numbers dipped a

2111
01:55:51,120 --> 01:55:54,040
Speaker 9: little bit as long as they're taking more shots. And

2112
01:55:54,080 --> 01:55:55,960
Speaker 9: that's the other thing that Miles is going to help

2113
01:55:56,040 --> 01:55:59,000
Speaker 9: them with is right now he's averaging about the same

2114
01:55:59,000 --> 01:56:01,360
Speaker 9: as he did in turn with attempts a year ago.

2115
01:56:02,160 --> 01:56:04,560
Speaker 9: But they believe Miles Turner can get up more three

2116
01:56:04,600 --> 01:56:07,160
Speaker 9: point attempts than brook Lopez, and he can certainly get

2117
01:56:07,200 --> 01:56:09,760
Speaker 9: off the shot, as you guys saw much quicker than

2118
01:56:09,800 --> 01:56:12,800
Speaker 9: brook Lopez did, which just creates those secondary actions for

2119
01:56:12,920 --> 01:56:15,760
Speaker 9: this group that you have to react quicker. So if

2120
01:56:15,800 --> 01:56:20,480
Speaker 9: you asked me to say, where would you anticipate Miles

2121
01:56:20,520 --> 01:56:22,560
Speaker 9: in kind of the pecking order if you ranked the

2122
01:56:22,600 --> 01:56:28,160
Speaker 9: most important Bucks players, I think it's probably three on

2123
01:56:28,200 --> 01:56:31,360
Speaker 9: that list. Like coming into the season, we all believed,

2124
01:56:32,520 --> 01:56:35,080
Speaker 9: probably Kevin Porter Junior. I think where we were write

2125
01:56:35,240 --> 01:56:37,520
Speaker 9: was we thought the starting point guard would be the

2126
01:56:37,560 --> 01:56:40,120
Speaker 9: second most important player for this Bucks team, that Miles

2127
01:56:40,200 --> 01:56:42,720
Speaker 9: was not a role player, but a guy that just

2128
01:56:42,760 --> 01:56:44,480
Speaker 9: did a lot of good things for you, but not

2129
01:56:44,560 --> 01:56:46,200
Speaker 9: necessarily your second best player.

2130
01:56:46,760 --> 01:56:48,360
Speaker 2: And that's become Ryan Wallins.

2131
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Speaker 9: So I think that's also helped Miles too, that this

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01:56:51,680 --> 01:56:54,600
Speaker 9: is more a team brand of basketball, and you're not

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01:56:54,720 --> 01:56:58,280
Speaker 9: telling Miles Turner, hey, go be our second best player

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01:56:58,280 --> 01:56:59,560
Speaker 9: and score twenty points a night.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Rollins has played really well, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: and this was a little bit of and you tell

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01:57:05,560 --> 01:57:08,760
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong here Justin. Justin Garcia is our

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01:57:08,880 --> 01:57:11,760
Speaker 1: guest talking about the Milwaukee Bucks. It seems like Rollins

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01:57:11,800 --> 01:57:13,600
Speaker 1: to me is like that Found twenty when you're doing

2140
01:57:13,640 --> 01:57:14,280
Speaker 1: your launch.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Right, They didn't expect us at all, Am I wrong?

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Speaker 11: No?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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01:57:17,640 --> 01:57:19,840
Speaker 9: I mean I think they feel like Aj Green is

2146
01:57:19,840 --> 01:57:22,040
Speaker 9: like a found ten dollars bill in the laundry with

2147
01:57:22,120 --> 01:57:24,520
Speaker 9: what he developed in terms of his shooting, and he's

2148
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Speaker 9: flying defensively with Ryan you saw flashes of it last year.

2149
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Speaker 9: I think his growth was really stunted early in the

2150
01:57:32,600 --> 01:57:35,520
Speaker 9: season when he suffered a shoulder injury and his option

2151
01:57:35,640 --> 01:57:38,360
Speaker 9: with either you can have surgery and it'll basically knock

2152
01:57:38,400 --> 01:57:41,000
Speaker 9: you out for the year, or you can rest and

2153
01:57:41,080 --> 01:57:43,200
Speaker 9: rehab and play through it. He opted to do that,

2154
01:57:43,600 --> 01:57:45,640
Speaker 9: and he kind of stalled a little bit until leaning

2155
01:57:45,680 --> 01:57:48,000
Speaker 9: into the playoffs. But then, as you know, you guys

2156
01:57:48,000 --> 01:57:51,640
Speaker 9: saw firsthand, it became very evident. The Bucks had maybe

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01:57:52,040 --> 01:57:55,200
Speaker 9: five and a half guys they could really play in

2158
01:57:55,240 --> 01:57:58,240
Speaker 9: that series against the Pacers, and Ryan was one of them.

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Speaker 9: So they remained high on him all through last season.

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Speaker 9: In the summer as well. Having said that, I don't

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01:58:05,200 --> 01:58:09,680
Speaker 9: think anybody envisioned unless it's people in the organization. I

2162
01:58:09,680 --> 01:58:12,839
Speaker 9: don't know that there's many that envisioned Ryan Rollins posting

2163
01:58:12,840 --> 01:58:16,480
Speaker 9: twenty five points and then two nights later out dueling

2164
01:58:16,520 --> 01:58:19,520
Speaker 9: Steph Curry and having thirty two points in terrific defensively.

2165
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Speaker 9: So yeah, he's been that found twenty or even more

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Speaker 9: in your laundry.

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01:58:24,480 --> 01:58:29,600
Speaker 1: Justin do you believe that Miles Turner that Milwaukee would

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01:58:29,640 --> 01:58:34,480
Speaker 1: have as would have gone after Miles Turner as aggressively

2169
01:58:34,960 --> 01:58:40,360
Speaker 1: and as emphatically, you know, hey, here's the offer. And

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Speaker 1: we don't know this was what was said, but I mean,

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01:58:42,800 --> 01:58:45,160
Speaker 1: by all account, it seems as though it was along

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01:58:45,160 --> 01:58:48,640
Speaker 1: the lines of, here is our offer. You cannot use

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01:58:48,680 --> 01:58:51,640
Speaker 1: this to try to counter offer somebody else's deal because

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01:58:51,640 --> 01:58:53,800
Speaker 1: you have until X amount to sign it or it

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01:58:53,840 --> 01:58:56,280
Speaker 1: goes off the table, and that's that. Would they have

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01:58:56,320 --> 01:58:58,880
Speaker 1: had the same approach and would they have had the

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01:58:58,960 --> 01:59:02,280
Speaker 1: same level of interest in Miles Turner if he had

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01:59:02,280 --> 01:59:04,720
Speaker 1: the exact same production, was the exact same player, but

2179
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Speaker 1: was coming from the Portland Trailblazers, Orlando Magic, or New

2180
01:59:09,120 --> 01:59:13,040
Speaker 1: Orleans Pelicans. How much of the motivation to acquire him

2181
01:59:13,520 --> 01:59:16,800
Speaker 1: was not only the win of getting Miles Turner, but

2182
01:59:17,040 --> 01:59:20,480
Speaker 1: the additional bonus of dissolving Indiana.

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01:59:21,280 --> 01:59:24,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean maybe I'm a naive. I don't really

2184
01:59:24,400 --> 01:59:26,920
Speaker 9: think that was a huge factor for the team. I mean,

2185
01:59:28,280 --> 01:59:30,560
Speaker 9: I'm sure it makes for a great story and you

2186
01:59:30,640 --> 01:59:32,480
Speaker 9: certainly don't mind of oh, this is really going to

2187
01:59:32,520 --> 01:59:35,400
Speaker 9: set Indiana back with you know, obviously Tyry's Helibert now.

2188
01:59:35,880 --> 01:59:39,080
Speaker 9: But the important part in you know, We've talked about

2189
01:59:39,120 --> 01:59:41,920
Speaker 9: it on shows that I've done in elsewhere. For the

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01:59:41,960 --> 01:59:45,080
Speaker 9: last like two years, it feels like is I think

2191
01:59:45,120 --> 01:59:48,440
Speaker 9: Brook Lopez was still a valuable piece, but you just

2192
01:59:48,480 --> 01:59:50,840
Speaker 9: started to see more and more. I mean, Father Time

2193
01:59:50,960 --> 01:59:51,480
Speaker 9: is unbeaten.

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01:59:51,680 --> 01:59:53,800
Speaker 1: Certainly, no question up with you that.

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01:59:54,120 --> 01:59:57,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, you can still you know, defend the rim, but

2196
01:59:57,680 --> 02:00:00,960
Speaker 9: as again you guys saw, you can put him in

2197
02:00:01,000 --> 02:00:03,160
Speaker 9: actions where you can really take advantage of that. And

2198
02:00:03,200 --> 02:00:06,879
Speaker 9: the other thing with Brooke is he needs that solid

2199
02:00:06,920 --> 02:00:10,280
Speaker 9: perimeter defense around him where you funnel things to him

2200
02:00:10,680 --> 02:00:12,840
Speaker 9: and then he doesn't look quite as exposed, and that

2201
02:00:13,000 --> 02:00:15,160
Speaker 9: just got shipped away a year after year for the

2202
02:00:15,160 --> 02:00:17,760
Speaker 9: Bucks for the last couple of years. So having said

2203
02:00:17,800 --> 02:00:21,600
Speaker 9: all that, you also have Gianni's who is growing sense

2204
02:00:21,640 --> 02:00:24,360
Speaker 9: and purpose as a center. But I mean, I know

2205
02:00:24,400 --> 02:00:26,400
Speaker 9: it's a very low volume of sense. He's been better

2206
02:00:26,400 --> 02:00:28,520
Speaker 9: at shooting the three this year, but you need to

2207
02:00:28,600 --> 02:00:32,200
Speaker 9: surround him with shooters and especially big so Bucks brought

2208
02:00:32,240 --> 02:00:35,520
Speaker 9: in Jericho Sims last year, kind of similar to Ryan Rollins,

2209
02:00:35,640 --> 02:00:37,920
Speaker 9: not anywhere near those levels. He showed you a lot

2210
02:00:37,920 --> 02:00:39,680
Speaker 9: of signs that you liked, and I think he was

2211
02:00:39,720 --> 02:00:42,360
Speaker 9: a piece that Bucks' fans thought, here's a young Bige

2212
02:00:42,360 --> 02:00:44,680
Speaker 9: you can move around. The problem is he can't shoot,

2213
02:00:44,800 --> 02:00:47,360
Speaker 9: so you can't really play he and Giannis together. And

2214
02:00:47,400 --> 02:00:49,800
Speaker 9: it just comes back to you need another center that

2215
02:00:49,840 --> 02:00:53,120
Speaker 9: can protect the rim and can also shoot threes. And

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02:00:53,440 --> 02:00:55,560
Speaker 9: I mean, I know it's becoming more and more common,

2217
02:00:56,000 --> 02:00:58,080
Speaker 9: but when you look at the most effective guys that

2218
02:00:58,120 --> 02:01:00,680
Speaker 9: have done that, it's really been Brook Lopez Turner for

2219
02:01:00,720 --> 02:01:03,640
Speaker 9: the last handful of years. So Miles Turner's name would

2220
02:01:03,640 --> 02:01:06,280
Speaker 9: come up a lot with Bucks fans of it's time

2221
02:01:06,320 --> 02:01:08,200
Speaker 9: to move on from Brookes to go get Miles Turner,

2222
02:01:08,200 --> 02:01:10,520
Speaker 9: and I think we all agreed that. Then you'd say, okay, great,

2223
02:01:10,560 --> 02:01:13,120
Speaker 9: but there's no real means for the Bucks to do

2224
02:01:13,160 --> 02:01:16,080
Speaker 9: that with their cap situation. We didn't anticipate them just

2225
02:01:16,080 --> 02:01:17,480
Speaker 9: saying okay, we're moving on from Dame.

2226
02:01:18,280 --> 02:01:20,160
Speaker 1: I mean, they had to get creative with it, right

2227
02:01:20,240 --> 02:01:23,080
Speaker 1: in terms of the money, and one would assume that financially,

2228
02:01:23,120 --> 02:01:25,440
Speaker 1: it kind of puts a limit on them moving forward.

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Speaker 9: Correct in theory yet and where it gets interesting though,

2230
02:01:29,520 --> 02:01:32,360
Speaker 9: is if it's so, I mean, it could go one

2231
02:01:32,400 --> 02:01:34,839
Speaker 9: of two ways for the Bucks here. If this works

2232
02:01:35,800 --> 02:01:38,200
Speaker 9: all of a sudden, they have a lot more available

2233
02:01:38,240 --> 02:01:40,000
Speaker 9: throughout the course of the year, Like you get through

2234
02:01:40,000 --> 02:01:43,080
Speaker 9: the season they got three first round picks, but they

2235
02:01:43,080 --> 02:01:46,400
Speaker 9: can suddenly put in a package. They would have a

2236
02:01:46,920 --> 02:01:50,480
Speaker 9: you know, a Isle Kuzma expiring contract and other contracts

2237
02:01:50,800 --> 02:01:53,000
Speaker 9: that they could piece together, which for the longest time

2238
02:01:53,440 --> 02:01:56,160
Speaker 9: their salaries were just super maaxes and then a lot

2239
02:01:56,160 --> 02:01:59,280
Speaker 9: of minimum contracts. But then they also have again like

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Speaker 9: you got Ryan Rollins making four million dollars a year

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02:02:02,520 --> 02:02:04,680
Speaker 9: for the next two seasons. You just locked up aj

2242
02:02:04,840 --> 02:02:08,480
Speaker 9: Green for ten million dollars a year. Jerry Trans Junior

2243
02:02:08,520 --> 02:02:11,280
Speaker 9: and Kevin Porter Junior both came back for basically the

2244
02:02:11,360 --> 02:02:14,200
Speaker 9: league minimum their free agents next year. But if this works,

2245
02:02:14,240 --> 02:02:16,960
Speaker 9: it's easy to coach those guys into sticking around and

2246
02:02:17,040 --> 02:02:19,120
Speaker 9: taking a little less. So you do have that hanging

2247
02:02:19,200 --> 02:02:22,560
Speaker 9: over you with that twenty million dollar game stretch figure,

2248
02:02:23,320 --> 02:02:25,640
Speaker 9: but you're in a much better spot suddenly.

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Speaker 1: Capwise, Justin's going to be a lot of fun tonight

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Speaker 1: at the Fieldhouse. We will see. I'm anticipating that Miles

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02:02:32,560 --> 02:02:36,880
Speaker 1: Turner gets even though I think fans deep down as

2252
02:02:36,920 --> 02:02:38,880
Speaker 1: a dude, they still like the guy. But he's gonna

2253
02:02:38,880 --> 02:02:43,600
Speaker 1: get booed, probably regularly, and I would imagine might be

2254
02:02:43,600 --> 02:02:45,440
Speaker 1: every time he touches the ball. But we shall see.

2255
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Speaker 1: But that is what makes sports go round. It's been

2256
02:02:48,120 --> 02:02:50,280
Speaker 1: a fun rivalry for certain I think it was surprising

2257
02:02:50,320 --> 02:02:52,640
Speaker 1: by a lot of people. But over the course of

2258
02:02:52,640 --> 02:02:54,120
Speaker 1: the year, look forward to having you back on if

2259
02:02:54,120 --> 02:02:57,600
Speaker 1: we could. Justin Justin Garcia from the Bucks Radio Network

2260
02:02:57,600 --> 02:03:00,560
Speaker 1: and Locked on Bucks appreciate it, man, Yeah, no problem,

2261
02:03:01,920 --> 02:03:05,120
Speaker 1: Justin Garcia on the program We come back. It is

2262
02:03:05,960 --> 02:03:09,560
Speaker 1: the crossover. As JMB joins the program. He is down

2263
02:03:09,720 --> 02:03:11,920
Speaker 1: on the south side, Is that right, Eddie today? That

2264
02:03:12,040 --> 02:03:13,000
Speaker 1: is correct? Southside?

2265
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Speaker 8: Yes, twin Peaks Greenwood off A thirty one.

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Speaker 1: Nice. All right, we'll hand it off to John. We'll

2267
02:03:17,720 --> 02:03:19,280
Speaker 1: find out what he's got cooking, and we'll do it

2268
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Speaker 1: all on the other side. Monday edition here quiring company

2269
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Speaker 1: on the Fan. I mentioned earlier that I am looking

2270
02:03:27,200 --> 02:03:30,680
Speaker 1: forward to this week on Thursday evening at the Rich

2271
02:03:30,760 --> 02:03:37,240
Speaker 1: Charles N. Carmel, the ALS Research fundraiser to Live Like

2272
02:03:37,360 --> 02:03:39,920
Speaker 1: Lou talking about a trivia fundraiser, I came up with

2273
02:03:39,960 --> 02:03:43,280
Speaker 1: eight trivia questions as they relate to Indianapolis, and I

2274
02:03:43,320 --> 02:03:47,080
Speaker 1: think we'll be helping out in seeing the event and

2275
02:03:47,160 --> 02:03:49,600
Speaker 1: certainly look forward to that. And I want to reach

2276
02:03:49,640 --> 02:03:53,920
Speaker 1: out to Darrel among others that had called in that

2277
02:03:54,040 --> 02:03:56,320
Speaker 1: have those family members or loved ones that have been

2278
02:03:56,360 --> 02:04:00,760
Speaker 1: touched by ALS, And certainly I understand you know, ALS

2279
02:04:00,960 --> 02:04:04,680
Speaker 1: is a terrible disease, and I know that those that

2280
02:04:04,720 --> 02:04:06,680
Speaker 1: have been touched by it, myself included. I mean I

2281
02:04:06,720 --> 02:04:10,360
Speaker 1: have when I was in college was very involved in

2282
02:04:10,400 --> 02:04:16,839
Speaker 1: fundraisers for the events like this and like Lou Garrigg's legacy,

2283
02:04:17,840 --> 02:04:22,120
Speaker 1: and then also had a high school I would say acquaintance.

2284
02:04:22,160 --> 02:04:24,320
Speaker 1: It would be disingenuous to say really good friend, but

2285
02:04:24,480 --> 02:04:28,280
Speaker 1: a very good friend of mine's husband who was stricken

2286
02:04:28,320 --> 02:04:31,800
Speaker 1: by ALS. And so certainly I know of the challenges

2287
02:04:31,840 --> 02:04:35,200
Speaker 1: of the disease and the terrible nature of it. But

2288
02:04:35,360 --> 02:04:38,440
Speaker 1: this is an event to celebrate the research that is

2289
02:04:38,520 --> 02:04:44,120
Speaker 1: going into making sure that ALS, the fight continues against it,

2290
02:04:44,200 --> 02:04:48,280
Speaker 1: and trying to find a cure for ALS, and celebrating

2291
02:04:48,320 --> 02:04:51,200
Speaker 1: those that are working for that, working towards that, and

2292
02:04:51,320 --> 02:04:53,680
Speaker 1: those that show the strength with it. So again, this

2293
02:04:53,800 --> 02:04:55,520
Speaker 1: is going to be at the Rich Charles coming up

2294
02:04:55,880 --> 02:04:59,000
Speaker 1: on Thursday evening and looking forward to doing exactly that

2295
02:04:59,120 --> 02:05:02,560
Speaker 1: and raising as much money as possible for the ALS

2296
02:05:02,680 --> 02:05:07,520
Speaker 1: Trivia night. Excuse me, jamb Is down on the South side,

2297
02:05:07,600 --> 02:05:10,960
Speaker 1: John yesterday. That was not the kind of effort that

2298
02:05:11,080 --> 02:05:13,400
Speaker 1: I think anybody wanted to see in Pittsburgh. But for

2299
02:05:13,440 --> 02:05:16,880
Speaker 1: whatever reason, man, when it comes to Steele City, it

2300
02:05:16,880 --> 02:05:19,800
Speaker 1: doesn't matter how bad the Steelers defense is. For some reason,

2301
02:05:19,800 --> 02:05:22,040
Speaker 1: when they see the Colts, they become the steel Curtain.

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Speaker 10: Hey, I put them in the retirement home last week

2303
02:05:24,760 --> 02:05:27,280
Speaker 10: like five days. I mean all those guys, I said, yeah,

2304
02:05:27,280 --> 02:05:29,400
Speaker 10: they looked old and decrepit against.

2305
02:05:29,040 --> 02:05:32,360
Speaker 1: Green Bay and they were enthusiastic.

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02:05:33,080 --> 02:05:34,960
Speaker 10: I mean it looked like there was I didn't know

2307
02:05:35,000 --> 02:05:37,440
Speaker 10: what was happening there coming off the edge. I mean,

2308
02:05:37,480 --> 02:05:40,080
Speaker 10: the offensive line of the Colts, it was bad. And

2309
02:05:40,320 --> 02:05:42,480
Speaker 10: I think jac it's all about the operation, isn't it.

2310
02:05:42,800 --> 02:05:45,640
Speaker 10: When the operation doesn't go when it starts with Daniel Jones.

2311
02:05:45,680 --> 02:05:48,200
Speaker 10: And then Daniel Jones was affected by the lack of

2312
02:05:48,200 --> 02:05:51,560
Speaker 10: a running game, maybe affected by the play calling early.

2313
02:05:51,720 --> 02:05:53,560
Speaker 10: Maybe if you could got a run game going, it

2314
02:05:53,560 --> 02:05:57,160
Speaker 10: could have been different. And the offensive line struggled in

2315
02:05:57,360 --> 02:06:01,320
Speaker 10: pass protection whatsoever, and especially Jake they got in his

2316
02:06:01,480 --> 02:06:05,840
Speaker 10: face so many different times and that just gets to you.

2317
02:06:05,880 --> 02:06:08,920
Speaker 10: And he's not built to go fifty plus through the air. Well,

2318
02:06:09,240 --> 02:06:10,680
Speaker 10: you have to have everything working for you.

2319
02:06:12,240 --> 02:06:14,960
Speaker 1: It's been a long time and that's really the first time, John,

2320
02:06:15,000 --> 02:06:16,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you could say the Rams game,

2321
02:06:16,760 --> 02:06:19,160
Speaker 1: but you know, we have not seen a lot of

2322
02:06:19,200 --> 02:06:22,160
Speaker 1: games where the Colts are playing. You know, Daniel Jones

2323
02:06:22,200 --> 02:06:26,120
Speaker 1: this year going into that game, basically three quarters of

2324
02:06:26,160 --> 02:06:28,160
Speaker 1: the snaps that he has taken it's been with the lead.

2325
02:06:28,280 --> 02:06:30,720
Speaker 1: So to see him have to play from behind, then

2326
02:06:30,760 --> 02:06:34,200
Speaker 1: it's teof city, right if you can't protect and yesterday

2327
02:06:34,280 --> 02:06:39,920
Speaker 1: they could not protect Man. We talked a lot, understandably

2328
02:06:40,040 --> 02:06:42,680
Speaker 1: rightly so, about how good that offensive line has been

2329
02:06:42,800 --> 02:06:44,800
Speaker 1: so far this year, John, and that was a complete

2330
02:06:44,800 --> 02:06:50,840
Speaker 1: meltdown yesterday. Question becomes was that the exception or were

2331
02:06:50,920 --> 02:06:55,600
Speaker 1: we did we fall victim to thinking that the good

2332
02:06:55,640 --> 02:06:58,160
Speaker 1: play was the norm and in fact that was the exception.

2333
02:06:58,440 --> 02:06:59,640
Speaker 1: I'm curious to see where they go.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, you look at it this way though. People

2335
02:07:03,480 --> 02:07:06,840
Speaker 10: kind of minimize their wins. But I felt, I don't

2336
02:07:06,880 --> 02:07:10,080
Speaker 10: know about you. I mean Denver, even though they got lucky.

2337
02:07:10,720 --> 02:07:16,040
Speaker 10: I thought the Chargers, they have good wins, not everything

2338
02:07:16,120 --> 02:07:22,520
Speaker 10: is awful. You had a desperate Pittsburgh team and honestly, offensively,

2339
02:07:22,600 --> 02:07:24,640
Speaker 10: they could have got Aaron Rodgers off his mark a

2340
02:07:24,680 --> 02:07:26,520
Speaker 10: little bit more. But you know, the thing of it

2341
02:07:26,560 --> 02:07:29,320
Speaker 10: is they kept turning the football over and giving the

2342
02:07:29,360 --> 02:07:32,680
Speaker 10: Steelers short fields to deal with, so you know, you

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Speaker 10: end up having to pay the price in the end.

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Speaker 10: And it was unfortunate because you felt that was as

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Speaker 10: good a time as any for them to win in Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 10: and Pittsburgh knocked him around.

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Speaker 1: But even with that, it was a one score game.

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Speaker 10: I don't know if that dictates the terms on how

2349
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Speaker 10: the game went overall, but man, you wish they could

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Speaker 10: have played better and simply put game in.

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Speaker 1: They did not, Jake, it was not good. What's on

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Speaker 1: the big show for you tonight? John, Yeah, we are.

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Speaker 10: Oh'd you guys talk about number three coming back in town?

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Speaker 1: Former thirty three? Number three? Have you brought that up?

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Speaker 1: That is correct, Miles Turner back to the field House tonight.

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Speaker 10: Yes, yeah, so yeah, he got his words wrong where

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02:08:12,720 --> 02:08:16,320
Speaker 10: everybody misunderstood we understood these words. I mean he he

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02:08:16,800 --> 02:08:19,520
Speaker 10: kind of flexed a little bit and got over his

2359
02:08:19,720 --> 02:08:22,800
Speaker 10: so cold skis and you know, now he's, you know,

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Speaker 10: making sure that the fans around here know he wasn't

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Speaker 10: talking about them. We nar the entire time he was

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Speaker 10: pissed with Prichard and pissed with Buchannon and everybody.

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Speaker 1: So that's the way that it goes.

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Speaker 10: We'll see the reaction later off tonight Twin Peaks in Greenwood,

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Speaker 10: Joe Lo Jake, we've got ice cold beer already rocking,

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Speaker 10: And what a gorgeous November day. This is completely opposite

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Speaker 10: of what I recognize November to be.

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Speaker 1: Right here, Gary keep forgetting it's November, which is weird

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Speaker 1: in its own right right, but it is gorgeous, no question.

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Speaker 1: And so you know what they say, great scenery as

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Speaker 1: well at Twin Peaks that includes Johns indeed out there today.

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Speaker 1: How that sounds all right? John will throw it out

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Speaker 1: to you just a little bit, all right, got pal

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Speaker 1: be gonna be taking things over here in about five minutes.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back with you tomorrow. I look forward to

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Speaker 1: it tonight at Gambridge Fieldhouse. I'll be down there along

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Speaker 1: with Ron from Chicago's Pizza. As a matter of fact,

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Speaker 1: family meal deal. If you're gonna watch the game, think

2379
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Speaker 1: about it tonight. Two medium pizzas, one topping, twenty five

2380
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Speaker 1: bucks with breadsticks. Can't beat it. We'll be back with

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Speaker 1: you at noon tomorrow. And I thank you for listening

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Speaker 1: to Querying Company.