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Speaker 4: They will face the Atlanta Dreams. Sunday three o'clock. Game

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Speaker 1: saw from him. I thought he was really good in

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Speaker 1: week one, and I thought part of that was Shane Steichen.

433
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Speaker 1: So the other side of that is offensively still you

434
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Speaker 1: have to cater to what your offense can do or

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Speaker 1: what your quarterback can do, and we'll see whether or

436
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Speaker 1: not they're able to maintain that, so to speak. All right,

437
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Speaker 1: when we come back, it is as I'd mentioned, it

438
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Speaker 1: still feels weird to say it's a college game night,

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Speaker 1: but it is. And then the big one on Sunday

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Speaker 1: between the Colts and the Broncos. But what is it

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Speaker 1: about Denver that might present challenge for Indianapolis. We'll get

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Speaker 1: into that. We'll do it on the other side here

443
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Speaker 1: acquiring company. You're listening to it on a Friday edition

444
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Speaker 1: on the fan woes. So here's what we know in

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Speaker 1: terms of practice for today, Eddie Garrison, do you happen

446
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Speaker 1: to have pleased the breaking news sounder Shaverius Ward, Which

447
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Speaker 1: this was not a surprise at all because he's been

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Speaker 1: in the concussion protocol. He did not practice today, correct? Correct?

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Speaker 1: Now the other one, Eddie, that's a little bit of

450
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Speaker 1: a surprise. It pretty much means that he's not playing Sunday. Correct,

451
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Speaker 1: And this other one, was it limited or out for today,

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Speaker 1: So he.

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Speaker 4: Was limited on Wednesday, out yesterday, out again today. On

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Speaker 4: the sideline, we're talking about Leyatu Latu yep hamstring injury.

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Speaker 4: So he is out for today, right, and that would

456
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Speaker 4: assume one would assume that that may limit him coming

457
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Speaker 4: up on Sunday and of course trying to get to

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Speaker 4: bo Nicks the offense and the quarterback for the Denver Broncos. Now,

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Speaker 4: as for what Denver presents, I think defensively, you know,

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Speaker 4: we talked to Brandon about it yesterday, it's a defense

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Speaker 4: that that is kind of Denver's calling card. I do

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Speaker 4: think that offensively they have you know, could you say

463
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Speaker 4: the Bownick still to this point is a game manager.

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Speaker 4: You know, probably, I mean Courtland Sutton is there probably

465
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Speaker 4: their primary receiving threat. But defensively, I still think that.

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Speaker 4: And it's interesting because the Broncos for a long time

467
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Speaker 4: as a franchise, and especially with Sean Payton, you know,

468
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Speaker 4: you bring it in there because you are wanting eventually

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Speaker 4: to them for them to be a more potent offense.

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Speaker 4: But I think defensively what they bring to the table

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Speaker 4: is going to be the thing that the Colts have

472
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Speaker 4: to really worry about But the one thing that I

473
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Speaker 4: keep going back to is when you look through you

474
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Speaker 4: just don't know, Like in the NFL through one game,

475
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Speaker 4: you just don't know. And you know, I think the

476
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Speaker 4: Commanders are pretty good, but offensively did you watch that game.

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Speaker 1: Last night atdy oh painfully?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean they just there are games that you go

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Speaker 1: through where you're you're you're waiting for it to jumpstart,

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Speaker 1: and you're waiting and you're waiting and you're and it

482
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Speaker 1: just never got going right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's simply I think because for Washington's because with

484
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Speaker 4: how much time Terry mcclurein missed during camp and your

485
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Speaker 4: top receiver not being out there being on the field

486
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Speaker 4: and you know, working on stuff with Jayden Daniels. And

487
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Speaker 4: they mentioned it last night in the broadcast Jake, that

488
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Speaker 4: Jayden Daniels and Terry mcluin have had to spend extra

489
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Speaker 4: time after practice just to try to get back in

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Speaker 4: sync with one another. In right now, the offense for

491
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Speaker 4: them is not in sync and it's in large part

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Speaker 4: because of that, and maybe there's some uh, you know,

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Speaker 4: more film in terms of stuff that they want to

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Speaker 4: do offensively with Cliff Kingsbury that teams are catching on

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Speaker 4: to and taking away.

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Speaker 1: If you look at the Denver Broncos and defensively vance

497
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Speaker 1: Joseph their coordinator, h do you know what they like

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Speaker 1: to do more than any team in the league. Do

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Speaker 1: you know what his his statistical pattern would show you.

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Speaker 1: They love to dial up blitzer as I'd say, blitzing. Yeah,

501
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: they like getting We're gonna stack guys up front and

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Speaker 1: hear it come they are bringing the heat. Now, what's

503
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Speaker 1: interesting is what did the Colts just do offensively last

504
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Speaker 1: week against Miami on every possession scored correct? And what

505
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Speaker 1: did Miami consistently try to do. They tried to blitz.

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Speaker 1: They did try to blitz, yes, and Daniel Jones was

507
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Speaker 1: really good against that blitz. And so much of that

508
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Speaker 1: I know that that I I absolutely like beat this horse,

509
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Speaker 1: I realized. But so much of that is because of

510
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Speaker 1: their escape route, so to speak, the escape hatch of

511
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Speaker 1: getting to like Tyler Warren and Josh Downs. They didn't

512
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Speaker 1: overly involve in week one, but getting the base hits

513
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Speaker 1: instead of trying every time for the home run. You

514
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Speaker 1: have to get in rhythm. Said before, what basketball games

515
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Speaker 1: did you play in the driveway when you were a kid,

516
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Speaker 1: Eddie twenty one. Did you ever play a knockout? Did

517
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Speaker 1: you play Horse? Horse, around the World, pig, so any

518
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Speaker 1: of those games. If you're playing horse and your shot,

519
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: you just have a day where your SHOT's not going.

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00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: Eventually you kind of pack it up and you're like,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I've just got to get back to

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Speaker 1: the free throw line, and you hit a couple of

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Speaker 1: free throws. I remember my dad telling me when I

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Speaker 1: was a kid, the one thing when you're going against

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Speaker 1: the team that has a great shooter is do not

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Speaker 1: get them on the foul line. Because you get a

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Speaker 1: shooter on the foul line and they hit a couple

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Speaker 1: of free throws, and then all of a sudden they

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Speaker 1: feel their rhythm. And I know that Chris Ballard has

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Speaker 1: talked about making the layups. I get it, and I

531
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Speaker 1: know that you get tired of hearing making the layups.

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Speaker 1: But Tyler, Warren, Josh Downs, the short level or intermediate

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Speaker 1: level offensive plays become the layups. And what the Colts

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00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: and Chainstike and did really well for Daniel Jones was,

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Speaker 1: especially with Warren. Early, they got him to the free

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Speaker 1: throw line to let him get comfortable. And then once

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Speaker 1: you get to the free throw line, and once you

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Speaker 1: get comfortable, then that allows you to get a rhythm

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Speaker 1: and when you do have to dial up long, you

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Speaker 1: just you have a little bit better feel about you.

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Speaker 1: But when the blitzes are coming and you don't have

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Speaker 1: a lot of time to make a lot of changes

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Speaker 1: or you've got to get rid of the ball quickly.

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Speaker 1: And they did do a good job with that. Now,

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Speaker 1: the offensive line played really well. I think the most

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Speaker 1: underrated aspect for the coltson in Week one might have

547
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Speaker 1: been their offensive line. I mean it played. I thought

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Speaker 1: it played well, and Jones had time and could could

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Speaker 1: pick and choose, but he did a very good job

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Speaker 1: of finding where his safety net was. And if Denver

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Speaker 1: is going to bring that heat and they're going to

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Speaker 1: blitz all the time, then Daniel Jones is gonna have

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Speaker 1: to kind of keep it in that range. But you

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Speaker 1: feel good about it, don't you feel better right now?

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Speaker 1: And this is again I get it. I mean it's

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones as the quarterback of the Colts, and there's

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Speaker 1: really not a lot of reason for us or me.

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Speaker 1: I can't speak for Kevin, I can't speak for James,

559
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: I can't speak for Jeff I can't speak for John,

560
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Speaker 1: but for me, I still and I don't know how

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Speaker 1: long this window goes, probably one or two as long

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Speaker 1: as they're winning at least, I guess, you know, you

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Speaker 1: look at where they might have missed with Richardson. Eventually,

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Speaker 1: if Jones plays well and that continues and becomes a cycle,

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Speaker 1: then you just put that to bed because you're like, hey,

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Speaker 1: you know what, they might have missed on Richardson, but

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Speaker 1: they hit on Daniel Jones and so all's well, that

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00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: ends well. But since we're still wading through that a

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Speaker 1: little bit, then I think you still look into that.

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Speaker 1: But in the case of Richardson, I think they went

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Speaker 1: too much Adam Dunne home run ball and not just

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Speaker 1: kind of sticking with the basics because they just were

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Speaker 1: never able to get into that flow. Part of that's availability,

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Speaker 1: You know all of those things. But what's the points

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Speaker 1: spread in this game? Do we know Eddie Denver two

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Speaker 1: and a half? Denver's given two and a half, there

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Speaker 1: are two and a half point favorites. Is that a

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Speaker 1: disrespect That surprises me a little bit because the game

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Speaker 1: because I think of these two teams. Frankly, after Week one,

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Speaker 1: I think of Denver in Indianapolis, I think most people

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Speaker 1: would tell you that they think of the Colts and

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Speaker 1: the Broncos. And I know the Broncos had a better

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Speaker 1: year last year, but like you think of them as

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Speaker 1: two teams that are thought to be kind of in

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Speaker 1: that same area. So tie goes to the home team, right,

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Speaker 1: what three points spread? So basically they're saying, if this

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Speaker 1: were in Denver, it's a five and a half point game.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's right if it's in Denver, but like I

589
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Speaker 1: would say three either way. I think most people would

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Speaker 1: see this game as there are some offensive questions still

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Speaker 1: for Denver. There are some some offensive questions still for

592
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Speaker 1: Indians now. The Colts defensively without Liatu Latu, you know

593
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Speaker 1: you're and you have a healthy scratch on your defensive line.

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Speaker 1: That was a top three pick. I'm not sure yet.

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Speaker 4: Jacob there was a week last year when he had

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Speaker 4: a hip injury, didn't practice all week and then suit

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Speaker 4: it up on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean maybe he does go, and but

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Speaker 1: if he if he's even if he goes, if he's

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Speaker 1: physically limited, right, you have.

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Speaker 4: To remember JT Tuamolallow, who was just a second round

602
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Speaker 4: pick for the Colts. Healthy scratch was a healthy scratch me.

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Speaker 1: So you have a guy there, But but again, is

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Speaker 1: that asking a lot to just plug him in? I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I'm also intrigued by something else that's going

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Speaker 1: to happen tonight, and it doesn't evolve high school football,

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Speaker 1: although Kyle Nedripp does join us in forty five. I'll

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Speaker 1: let you know what that is and we'll discuss exactly

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Speaker 1: that and what to look for later. We'll do it next.

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Speaker 1: What say what I'm intrigued about. I'm intrigued about the

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Speaker 1: Indiana Indiana State game, partially because you know, just the

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Speaker 1: aspects of and J and V probably knows more about

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Speaker 1: Indiana State football than I would, because I would assume

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Speaker 1: that he's paid attention to their You know, they're two

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Speaker 1: and zero, right, and they've won both their games. You

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Speaker 1: know they beat Eastern what's happening?

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Speaker 4: I was about to say they beat a Division two school.

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Speaker 1: And when they beat Eastern Illinois, which is basically a

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Speaker 1: Division three school, right, I mean, isn't Eastern Illinois currently?

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Speaker 1: I could be wrong here. Didn't Eastern Illinois just go

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Speaker 1: through some stretch where they didn't win a game in

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Speaker 1: like two years. I could be totally wrong in that,

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Speaker 1: or am I thinking of Western Illinois? I might be

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Speaker 1: thinking of Western Eastern is where Western is the team

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Speaker 1: seventy seventy three last year. The Eastern is where obviously

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Speaker 1: Tony Romo went right and Jimmy Garoppolo also went to

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Speaker 1: Eastern Illinois, did he not?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: So Eastern maybe a decent program. But in Indiana State

630
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Speaker 1: beat them. But you know, the Sycamores come in at

631
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Speaker 1: two and oh, to your point, Eddie, week one, they

632
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Speaker 1: beat a team that they should beat. And I don't

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Speaker 1: buy into these things, but I always think it's an

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Speaker 1: interesting barometer. If you go on to like ESPN, it

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Speaker 1: has it. You know what it always says like percentage odds,

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Speaker 1: Like I guess fans vote on who's gonna win whatever

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Speaker 1: it has ninety nine percent that Indiana's gonna win. Yep.

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Speaker 1: Now has there ever been a game where it says

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Speaker 1: one hundred? I don't think so, is there? Like if

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00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: who would it take for it to be a one hundred?

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Speaker 1: I mean you can't, right.

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Speaker 4: I think there's always gonna be some statistical anoma anomaly

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Speaker 4: in there where it's gonna be like, you know, point

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Speaker 4: zero zero zero zero zero.

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Speaker 1: Is there a one right.

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Speaker 4: Percent chance you know that DePaulo defeats Alabama. And I

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Speaker 4: think this is what to me is interesting about this game.

648
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Speaker 4: And I don't mean to discredit Indiana State by speaking

649
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Speaker 4: the Indiana side of the narrative, but Indiana, when you

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Speaker 4: look at.

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Speaker 1: It, is expected to obviously have a big year. Now

652
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Speaker 1: are they a playoff bound team? I think their schedule

653
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: this year is a lot more arduous than it was

654
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Speaker 1: a year ago. And I think they have good players.

655
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: Certainly in the running game, they've been able to mix

656
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Speaker 1: it up where they've got three guys that all look

657
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: like they could be a primary back for them in

658
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 1: the passing game. You know, I think to this point,

659
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Speaker 1: especially in Game two, Mendoza kind of took the step.

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Speaker 1: You know, he talked about how he wanted to feel

661
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Speaker 1: more comfortable. He looked at in game two for certain

662
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Speaker 1: and Indiana has done and last year did a really

663
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Speaker 1: good job of getting a lead, building on the lead,

664
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Speaker 1: compounding the lead, and just putting games away. Are they're

665
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Speaker 1: up seven, Oh, they're up fourteen? Now, whoy they're up seventeen,

666
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: and just et cetera. And that you know, Kurt Signett's

667
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: blueprint there carries over. But for the Hoosiers this year,

668
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: if you look at their schedule, I think there is

669
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Speaker 1: a more pressing need for them not just to win

670
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 1: these three games, which they should win between Old Dominion,

671
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Speaker 1: Kinnesaw State, and Indiana State, but also to figure out

672
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Speaker 1: and work on their depth in the areas like these are.

673
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Speaker 1: And this is going to sound like a disrespect to

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Speaker 1: Indiana State, but these are three games that if you're

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Speaker 1: going to play three games that, for all intent and

676
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: purposes at the end of the year, are going to

677
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Speaker 1: do nothing in terms of your resume build. And yes,

678
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Speaker 1: we live in a world now I realize it's not

679
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Speaker 1: the BCS, it's not bowl games when there is a

680
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: college Football Playoff Selection Committee. It's like the NCAA tournament

681
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: and a much smaller scale. But you've got to start

682
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: looking at goodwin bad wins, test your schedule, et cetera.

683
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Speaker 1: And if Indiana is going to go into it under

684
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Speaker 1: the thing of we're gonna get we're gonna play games

685
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Speaker 1: that are gonna get us wins and go with three

686
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Speaker 1: between Old Dominion, Ennesaw State and Indiana State, presumably you're

687
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Speaker 1: going to go three and Oho then what you have

688
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: to do in those games is use those games to

689
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Speaker 1: solidify yourself, not in the area of the guys and

690
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: the players you know about, but figure out any question

691
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: marks you have about your team and your style and

692
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: work those kinks out before you get into because then

693
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Speaker 1: it gets real. You know, at Iowa, I don't know

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Speaker 1: that Iowa is. What do we say about Iowa? Kirk

695
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 1: Farren's teams are always a team that every three to

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Speaker 1: four years he gets a senior laden team that's a

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Speaker 1: ten win contender, and then you know they go seven

698
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: and four every other year. And this year, if I'm

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00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: not mistaken, they just lost to Iowa State. That was

700
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: a close game. Ioa State it's pretty good. So at

701
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: Iowa is a tricky game because it's on the road.

702
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: But you start out with Illinois at home that offensively

703
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: particularly looks really strong. Then at Iowa, and is that

704
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 1: a trap game? Because after Iowa you got to go

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Speaker 1: to Oregon and Oregon's probably goin to be undefeated and

706
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Speaker 1: a top four team at that time, and then you

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00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 1: get a little bit of a reprieve. I mean Michigan State, UCLA, Maryland.

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00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: You should win those three games, and at Penn State.

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Speaker 1: But I just think tonight. The problem with it, Eddie,

710
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Speaker 1: if this makes sense, is this feels to me like

711
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: a game tonight that you got a lot to gain. Well,

712
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: let me rephrase that. You know, if you win, what

713
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 1: do you gain? But you have a lot to lose

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00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:41,439
Speaker 1: if you don't play.

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Speaker 4: Well, forty six and a half is the spread, Jake?

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Speaker 1: What is it? Forty six and a half? Okay, be honest,

717
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: what forty six and a half? What are the odds?

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00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 1: Who would you take in that?

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Speaker 6: I don't.

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Speaker 1: I would take Indiana. You think Indiana? I mean that's

721
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Speaker 1: hard argue because here's why. Well, I didn't specify which one,

722
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Speaker 1: did I? Yes, I said I would take Indiana. Well,

723
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Speaker 1: one's Indiana, the other's Indiana State. Both Indiana understood. But

724
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Speaker 1: if you are on vacation and you attend Indiana State

725
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: and somebody says where do you go to school? And

726
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: you say Indiana? What school? You know what I mean? Yeah,

727
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: you know that's my point. But here's the thing. So

728
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Speaker 1: if you look at it and you say, okay, Kurt

729
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: Signetti's am though, this is why I would take Indiana

730
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Speaker 1: in that, because isn't Indiana's mo kind of once they

731
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Speaker 1: get a lead, they just keep going. I don't mean

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Speaker 1: that they run it up. I don't mean like in

733
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 1: a classless kind of way, but they just keep running

734
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Speaker 1: their same stuff. We're not you know what I mean.

735
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Speaker 1: And before you know it, you go from seven to fourteen,

736
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Speaker 1: and now you're up seventeen. You know, forty six and

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Speaker 1: a half.

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Speaker 4: I you total points fifty three and a half Indiana

739
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 4: State total points six and a half. Okay, basically betting

740
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 4: Indiana State to not score a touchdowns. Okay that that

741
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 4: seems unfair right either way if you take the spread

742
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 4: or if you take the overander Obviously I'm.

743
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:23,439
Speaker 1: Not some big gambler, but forty six and a half.

744
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: So so let me ask you this. Do you think

745
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: Indiana State.

746
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 4: Basically the book is telling you or asking, do you

747
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 4: think Indiana will win forty nine to nothing?

748
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: Indiana State can get themselves, can they not? Even if

749
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Speaker 1: you're going with Fluke, a Fluke touchdown and a Fluke

750
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: field goal, right.

751
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 4: That first game of the year for Indiana, they give

752
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 4: up y, yes, seventy yard touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: So let's just say that Indiana State gets a in

754
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: Indiana State. I mean, look, I'm not trying to disrespect

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00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 1: them at all. If they get a touchdown, and then

756
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 1: later in the second half, they you know, Indiana fumbles

757
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: the ball on their own twenty and Indiana State gets it.

758
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: And let's say they lose two yards on every play,

759
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: and now they're facing a fourth and sixteen from whatever

760
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: it would be, the twenty eight yard line or whatever

761
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: it would be. Out my maths, I'm not gonna do

762
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: quick math. But either way, you kick a field goal,

763
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Speaker 1: then now you got ten points. So Indiana then needs

764
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: fifty seven points. Fifty seven, you gotta take Indiana State, right.

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00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 1: You don't seem convinced, Eddie.

766
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 4: Sorry, I just I think I'm just trying to make

767
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 4: sure this is right before I share it on the radio.

768
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Speaker 1: Hold on, are you doing math that always becomes dangerous

769
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Speaker 1: for all of us? No math is involved, this is

770
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: just simple research. Well, you have twenty one hours a

771
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: day for the simple research. Eddie is intently staring at

772
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Speaker 1: the screen. By the way, zach Ostram and Osterman going

773
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: to join us just about fifteen minutes from now, and

774
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: we'll break down whether or not Indiana can get to

775
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,280
Speaker 1: fifty seven. All right, what's your research?

776
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 3: Eduardo?

777
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,240
Speaker 4: Did Eric Dickerson have a sign named Eric Dickerson Jr.

778
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 4: I don't know the answer to that because I was

779
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,760
Speaker 4: just looking at the box scores of these two Indiana

780
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 4: State games. The first win against mckendrey. Eric Dickerson Junior

781
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Speaker 4: is on the box score for Indiana State.

782
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: That's why I was asking. So you're saying, wait a minute,

783
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: So you're saying, there is Indiana State has a player

784
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: named mckendrey. By the way, do you know what state

785
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: mckendrey is in. If it's in Texas, then you've got

786
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:45,760
Speaker 1: pretty good odds. No, Illinois, No? Are you sure? Yes?

787
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: Where's mckendrey. It's in Illinois.

788
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Speaker 7: Yeah.

789
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now what you do is you go to their

790
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: Did you go to their football website? I did? Did

791
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: you go to the roster? I did? Did you go

792
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: to the bios of I did? And for Eric Dickerson Junior,

793
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: does it say anything in the bio about his father

794
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: being a Hall of Famer who was one of like

795
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: four backs to run for two thousand yards and was

796
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: a sideline reporter for Monday Night Football.

797
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 4: Bio twenty twenty three played eleven games, twenty twenty four

798
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:16,479
Speaker 4: played eleven games.

799
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Speaker 1: That's it. Under personal You know what, it usually says,

800
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Speaker 1: like son of Don and Cindy Dickerson, because he's clearly

801
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: the son of Eric Dickerson if his name is Eric

802
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: Dickerson Junior. But one would assume that if his father

803
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: is that Eric Dickerson, like I would have it plastered

804
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: right on the front of my website, right, you know

805
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 1: what I mean?

806
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 4: This is Eric Dickerson Junior is from louisll, Kentucky, So

807
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 4: I don't think so.

808
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that rules that out right there, right, Zach Ostraman

809
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 1: going to join us about fifteen wo did you just

810
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: tell me Eddie that you're going to a concert at

811
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 1: some point? Yes?

812
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 4: Shockingly enough?

813
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 1: Why is that shocking? Are you not a concert guy?

814
00:44:58,480 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 2: Not?

815
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: Really? Why not? Although admittedly it's only been in the

816
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: last five or ten years where I've really started to

817
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: enjoy concerts. But for what reason are you not per

818
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: se a concert guy? Well?

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00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 4: Most of the l rtist I listen to no longer

820
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 4: go on tour, really, Yeah, like eighties and nineties classic Croc.

821
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 4: You don't see many of them on tour anymore. I

822
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 4: don't see bon Jovi on tour. How about Van Halen,

823
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 4: They don't go on to her anymore, and even if

824
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,760
Speaker 4: they did, it's not the same because rp Eddy.

825
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: It's kind point. I mean, how about David Lee Roth,

826
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 1: You're right, without Van I mean without Eddie Van Halen

827
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: is not saying, but David Lee Roth, you wouldn't want

828
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Speaker 1: to go see him. He's doing cruise tours. I believe, right, Sam, Hey, guy, Guy, Jake, Okay, okay,

829
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,720
Speaker 1: fair enough. I'd like to thank those who have texted

830
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: the show. By the way, gentlemen, enjoy your show. A

831
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: bit of a vocabulary nerd so random observation. Jake uses

832
00:45:54,600 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: the word prognostication but pronounces it prognostication prognostication three and

833
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: one a or two of each, which gives and can

834
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 1: we reinstate the third o PS really appreciated the drop

835
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: pick murphy Sticks dropkick Murphy's tickets that you comped me

836
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 1: all the best from Rich Rich. You're probably right. There

837
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: are a couple of words that I have always had

838
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 1: a weird pronunciation issue with. I don't know why, because

839
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: I'm I was an English major. What's that boise? No,

840
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 1: it's boise, that's a that's b o I s e

841
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: it's bois. You say boise? It's not. It's not a Z.

842
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: It's an S, right, boise state fair that that kind

843
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: of the way that the one s slides into the next.

844
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: Your mouth just kind of creates it that way. But

845
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: I do probably say that I think about it prognostication

846
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 1: and it's prognostication. That that's fair because it's a prognosis.

847
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: It's not a prognasis, right, you would say prognosis is this?

848
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: So that is this show? What's that?

849
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 4: This show is a prognasis?

850
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:57,439
Speaker 1: Fair?

851
00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 2: Uh?

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00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: When I was forever, I used to say naivete. Yeah,

853
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: and it's naivete, which is weird because isn't it spelled

854
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: just t y? But I always pronounce it naivety like Hilton,

855
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: and it's naivete.

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00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 3: Right.

857
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,439
Speaker 1: The other one, I'm trying to think, Oh, this one

858
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 1: has always befuddled me, befoodled. That would also be good

859
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: if I did that one wrong. Yeah, we've done this

860
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: one before. A swin is a brand of what bicycle

861
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: Harley Davidson is a brand of what motorcycle? So why

862
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: is it motorcycle but bicycle same suffix because there's a

863
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: motor on the motorcycle and there's no motor on a bicycle, no,

864
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: h okay, But a bicycle is simply implying that there

865
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:57,479
Speaker 1: are two of what two cycles? What's that? There would

866
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 1: be two tires? So by two? Yeah, what cycles? Okay?

867
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: So why is that not a bicycle? It's not I

868
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: you just said there's two cycles. By becomes the replacement

869
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,439
Speaker 1: for the word too, so it should be bicycles, right,

870
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: So why do we say bicycle but motorcycle? It's the

871
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 1: same suffix. The suffix is the exact same cycle. Is

872
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 1: still the word, Zach Ostman, go to join us a

873
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: couple of minutes from now. I also mentioned those and

874
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: you can always text the program at two three nine

875
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 1: ten seventy. That's three one seven two three nine one

876
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,760
Speaker 1: zero seven zero. I'd like to thank Gary because Gary

877
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 1: is a loyal listener and never lets me, never denies

878
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: the opportunity to let me know he's listening, usually to

879
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: disagree with me, but nonetheless Gary is listening, and I

880
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: do appreciate it, Gary, and we do our best. I

881
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 1: appreciate and oftentimes Gary's critiques are fair and valid, so

882
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: it is appreciated, and I appreciate the interaction. Edy you

883
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: had mentioned. The Fever will be playing on Sunday, and

884
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say befuddled again in an arrangement from a

885
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: scheduling standpoint that does in fact befuddle the pre and

886
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: post game host of the Indiana Fever broadcast to an extent.

887
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: Correct a little bit, just a little bit. Yeah. So

888
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: the Fever playing at three o'clock against the Atlanta Dream,

889
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: and that is a game that is going right up

890
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: against obviously the Colts and the Broncos eventually because that

891
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: is a you know, four o'clock hour kick for the

892
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: Colts and Broncos. And so the Fever that game, that

893
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: means what in terms of the radio broadcast.

894
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 4: All coverage for Colts will be right here on the

895
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 4: fan in ninety seven to one HANDKFM, starting at let's see,

896
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 4: it's not ten o'clock because it's not a one o'clock kick,

897
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 4: so what would that be five hours.

898
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: Before or three hours before kick?

899
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 4: So we're looking at one o'clock coverage on the fan

900
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 4: one thirty and then Matt Taylor and Crewe will take

901
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 4: over at one at a three thirty. Man, I cannot

902
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 4: talk today.

903
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 1: Okay, So but what we know about the Fever playoffs

904
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: Fever IVY at two forty five. The Fever will have

905
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 1: their home game in the playoffs in round number one.

906
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: This is a best of three with the Atlanta Dream,

907
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: who they over the course of the regular season played

908
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 1: four times they split, each team won twice. This layout,

909
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: then Eddie in terms of home and away matchups, lays

910
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: out how for the Fever in the postseason.

911
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 4: So obviously Sunday is in Georgia, Tuesday is in Indianapolis

912
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 4: at gamebridgefield House at seven thirty. Game three, if necessary,

913
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,280
Speaker 4: will be Thursday, time to be determined.

914
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: So there is one guaranteed home playoff game for the

915
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: Fever and then obviously if they win the series, they

916
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: would move on from there. That is correct. They changed this,

917
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: I believe partially from wasn't it a year ago when

918
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: the Fever got in had to play Connecticut and a

919
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: best of three and the first two were on the road,

920
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: and you're like, yeah, wait a minute, yeah, it just

921
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense, Like why would you play a best

922
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: of three and the first two games are on the

923
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: road and then if you're the underdog, you get the

924
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: critical game three at home. By the way, naivete is

925
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 1: spelled n ai ve ete, not with a y on

926
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: the end. Thank you Michael for pointing that out. And

927
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: again the interesting aspect of that when it comes to

928
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 1: the spelling aspect of it, there was a Naevita on

929
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 1: my behalf, but I said naivet forever, absolutely forever, Jake.

930
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: I just wanted to drop in and say hi. That

931
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: would be the always enthusiastic and the very best airport.

932
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 1: Jimmy as he was known on a former part of

933
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 1: this program, and I always called him Caffeinated Jimmy because Jimmy,

934
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: who lives in Florida, still listens to the show, and

935
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 1: that dude is a constant. You meet dudes like this

936
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: where you just meet people and you're like, you know what,

937
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: that guy's just with the program. I've always said two

938
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: kinds of people in this world, those with the program

939
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: and those that aren't. And if you're with the program,

940
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you meet people and you're

941
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: just like, hey, guys with the program or gal just

942
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,760
Speaker 1: certain people you're like, it is cool they're with the program.

943
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: And Jimmy's one of those guys. Like I met the

944
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: dude and five minutes later, I'm like, I felt like

945
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: I'd gone to high school with them, felt like I'd

946
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,240
Speaker 1: grown up with them, felt like I'd gone to concerts

947
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: with them, and he was just and he used to

948
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: call the radio show and was like always energetic, and

949
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, you are caffeinated Jimmy, and caffeinated Jimmy listening

950
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 1: to us, thank you for texting us. As they are

951
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: driving through the fabulous, fabulous in the state of Florida

952
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 1: and enjoying the sun down there. We were talking about

953
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 1: Indiana and Indiana State and the point spread of this

954
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 1: particular game. The Hoosiers a forty six and a half

955
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: point favorite, and I think still we have a good

956
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: idea about Indiana because of what they were a year

957
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: ago and because of Kurt Signetti. But at the same time,

958
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: you know, do we really know this year's installment. You've

959
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: got a lot of new faces, a lot of new positions.

960
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: I thought that in particular, as I talked about Mendoza

961
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 1: wanted to be more by his own words in rhythm

962
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,720
Speaker 1: in game two than in game one. And Indiana State

963
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: comes in having defeated I mentioned Eastern Illinois. I mean

964
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:14,879
Speaker 1: Sean Payton, who's going to be here on Sunday. Maybe

965
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:18,919
Speaker 1: he'll go to the game, right not to see Indiana State,

966
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: but to see the team that just beat his old team,

967
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 1: because he's an eastern Illinois guy. But joining us now

968
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: on the guest line, he is, of course with the

969
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:30,839
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Star. He is our friend, Zach. Thank you who

970
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 1: joins us?

971
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 3: Zach?

972
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: Are you on your way down to Bloomington or are

973
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 1: you already there?

974
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 2: I'm always here. I never leave.

975
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: You know what, I don't know why I was thinking

976
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 1: you lived on the south side of Indianapolis. I didn't

977
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:42,760
Speaker 1: realize that you live.

978
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 2: Side of Bloomington.

979
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 1: Okay, that's cool.

980
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 2: Do you think far south side?

981
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: Do you live on the lake by the way, that's

982
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: the way south side? Right?

983
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 3: No, I don't.

984
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 2: I don't go quite that far south. But we are

985
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 2: firmly in that direction.

986
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 1: All right, fair enough, let's begin with this this game.

987
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: And I know it sounds crazy because of the year

988
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: that Indiana had last year and the fact that they

989
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: seemingly still have their foot on the accelerator although key

990
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: faces in new key areas or new faces in key areas.

991
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: So let's begin with this. Do we know more about

992
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: Indiana or Indiana State in this game?

993
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that, at least for our purposes,

994
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 2: I think we probably know more about Indiana, but I

995
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 2: think we always recognize that. I mean, like I've been

996
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 2: calling this three game starts a preseason basically all year,

997
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 2: and that this was it was always going to feel

998
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 2: a little bit like that, where you felt like you

999
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 2: could maybe clean certain things, you wanted to see certain

1000
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 2: relationships forming. You wanted to know is the improvement here real?

1001
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 2: And they figure out the defensive line notation, what do

1002
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 2: they look like in the you know, the secondary has

1003
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 2: been remade, all this kind of stuff, But we all

1004
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 2: knew kind of like an NFL preseason, you're not going

1005
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 2: to come out of it just sort of being able

1006
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,320
Speaker 2: to say, my mind has been completely made up about

1007
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 2: what this team is and what it's capable of. That's

1008
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 2: only going to happen in the games that really matter.

1009
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,479
Speaker 2: I understand college is a little different. These games matter.

1010
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 2: If Indiana were to lose tonight, you know, that would

1011
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 2: have all kinds of ramifications over the Hoosiers, you know,

1012
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 2: playoff candidacy and whatever. It's It's not like losing an

1013
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 2: NFL preseason game in terms of being risk free, but

1014
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 2: I think it is in terms of just sort of

1015
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:25,280
Speaker 2: judging the wider trajectory of the season.

1016
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: Frankly, do you with Indiana Zach and I was talking

1017
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 1: about this earlier when you have these three games, and

1018
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 1: I mean, this is no disrespect to the opponents, but

1019
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti has been so outspoken about, you know, just

1020
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: the way that they have managed the scheduling. Is there

1021
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:51,760
Speaker 1: an extent to these games where it actually is about

1022
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: more your depth than it is rhythm of your starters

1023
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: and learning your depth and getting repetition of your depth

1024
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,919
Speaker 1: and making sure that you are kind of getting all

1025
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,399
Speaker 1: bases covered. Is there any aspect of that in these

1026
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: three games.

1027
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 2: I think it's personally split of both. I mean, Signetty

1028
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 2: said himself the reason that he left is starters in

1029
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 2: longer than probably we expected him to against Kennesoe State

1030
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:20,959
Speaker 2: was because he said, a lot of these guys haven't

1031
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 2: Maybe they've played a lot of football, but they haven't

1032
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 2: played a lot of football together. We need these snaps,

1033
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 2: we need this rhythm. On the other hand, I think

1034
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 2: a game like tonight, and I've written this this week,

1035
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 2: I think the flip side to that is this is

1036
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 2: your last meaningful chance, assuming you can get to it,

1037
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:37,800
Speaker 2: and you want to be respectful of Indiana State. But

1038
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 2: assuming Indiana can get to a place where it's comfortably

1039
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 2: ahead in this game by maybe mid third quarter, this

1040
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 2: is your last meaningful chance to get a lot of

1041
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 2: younger players who you might need down the line. Quality

1042
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 2: snaps in game. Okay, maybe maybe the scores decided, you know,

1043
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 2: maybe the games decided the scores lotside of whatever. But

1044
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 2: I mean, the example I use seemingly every year is

1045
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 2: whether it's because of end injury or coach's choice, Indiana

1046
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 2: hasn't started the same quarterback through all twelve games of

1047
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 2: a regular season since twenty eighteen. Even last season, I think,

1048
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 2: you know, fans kind of forget Curtis Rourke. He only

1049
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 2: missed the one game, but that was still a meaningful game.

1050
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 2: That was Washington, It was a conference game, Game day

1051
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 2: was in town. It was an important step. It wound up,

1052
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 2: frankly being one of Indiana's better wins all things being equal,

1053
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 2: last season. And if you don't get Alberta, then Doza

1054
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 2: maybe some meaningful snaps tonight. If you're able to, well,

1055
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 2: then he's going to come in all that much less

1056
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 2: experienced and less confident, if you know, having forbid at

1057
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 2: some point his brother gets injured, goes down, you need

1058
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 2: to call on Alberto. You also look sometimes at young players.

1059
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 2: You know, Elijah Hardy, who's just one of Indiana starting

1060
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 2: linebacker's a great example. He got He made a bunch

1061
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 2: of plays in what we would probably generously describe as

1062
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 2: the garbage time against Western Illinois last season, against Purdue

1063
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 2: last season, but those were things that he built on.

1064
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 2: You know, he was able to get out come out

1065
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 2: of the season and say, hey, maybe those games are

1066
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 2: long decided, but I still have to take six. I

1067
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 2: still had the strip sack. I still did this and

1068
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 2: this and this, and that gives me the confidence and

1069
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 2: the momentum to go into an offseason where I wind

1070
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 2: up coming out the other side with the starting jobs.

1071
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 2: That process for young players can start here to your

1072
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 2: point about just sort of seeing, like what does your

1073
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 2: depth look like? Sometimes guys won't really be able to

1074
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 2: show you until they get on the field for a

1075
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 2: drive or multiple drives or you know, twenty twenty five

1076
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 2: thirty snaps. I feel like maybe that balance shifts tennisas

1077
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 2: states the game where you're leaving starters in a little longer.

1078
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 2: You want them to have that rhythm. You want them

1079
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 2: to have that time on task. If Indiana can get

1080
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 2: to a place where this game is comfortably in hand,

1081
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 2: I think maybe that shifts a little bit for Kurt

1082
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 2: Signetti tonight.

1083
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: Speaking of balance, Zach, and maybe the time is now

1084
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 1: for Indiana, and maybe Kurt Signetti was the perfect guy

1085
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 1: at the perfect time. And let me explain what I'm

1086
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 1: talking about. And maybe this is getting too into the weeds,

1087
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 1: too far in a conversation for another time, but I

1088
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: have kind of on the periphery monitored this and I

1089
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: want you to tell me how even accurate it is

1090
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 1: college football now now that we have nil and everything else.

1091
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 1: I mean, this is essentially a semi pro league and

1092
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: it really is up to schools and you know a

1093
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: lot of different aspects as to how much they want

1094
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: to spend, how much they want to buy a roster,

1095
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 1: et cetera. You have revenue sharing within the Big Ten,

1096
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: which was the forefront leader because they came up with

1097
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: their own television network. It catapulted it into the elite league.

1098
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: It allowed it to get the coastal teams in Washington

1099
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 1: and Oregon and USC and UCLA. And now you have

1100
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 1: Ohio State, who is the empire of the Big Ten

1101
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 1: coming out and saying this is all well and good,

1102
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: but if we are going to rake in all this

1103
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 1: money with television deals, then we need to make sure

1104
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 1: that those that are bringing in the most money are

1105
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 1: or that are you know, are also the ones that

1106
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: are getting the biggest slice of the pie. And that

1107
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: is going to change and shift the way that the

1108
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: Big Ten is balanced, because if you now all of

1109
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 1: a sudden, have to pay Ohio State based on performance

1110
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 1: more than you're paying Northwestern, et cetera, that expedites the

1111
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 1: necessity to get into the upper echelon of the Big Ten,

1112
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 1: and Indiana needs to make sure they're at the front

1113
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 1: of that table. Is that like a way over nuanced

1114
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 1: way of looking at it.

1115
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,439
Speaker 2: No, I don't think it is. And listen, I mean

1116
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 2: I wrote something about this today. I think everyone's written

1117
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 2: something about I think I've written a culturer about it.

1118
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 2: In the end, what Ted Carter said to my colleague

1119
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 2: Steve Burke with sever he goes a today this week.

1120
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 2: On the one hand, I think it should kind of

1121
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 2: be copyat it by saying, you know, he.

1122
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,439
Speaker 1: And by the way, Ted Carter, the president of Ohio State.

1123
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 1: For those that don't.

1124
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, he said, we are a member of the

1125
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,479
Speaker 2: Big Ten and that's where we plan to stay. He said,

1126
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter what I think he said. You know

1127
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 2: he was he was clearly kind of tepid in all this.

1128
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I would say even somewhat reluctant. The quote

1129
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 2: that I think got seized on was one and I

1130
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 2: don't have the story right in front of me where

1131
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 2: he essentially said, that's a conversation that will probably be

1132
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 2: ongoing around the next media rights steal, which will be

1133
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 2: renegotiated ahead of twenty thirty to current media rights steal

1134
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 2: expired at the end of the twenty nine to thirty

1135
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 2: academic year. I thought the most interesting thing he said

1136
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 2: in the other direction, because if you want to counter

1137
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 2: all of that sort of outside defensive Ted Carter, he

1138
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 2: was the president of Nebraska for four years. He's been

1139
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 2: the president of Ohio State for a year and a half.

1140
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,919
Speaker 2: He's not a novice to this. He knows what it's

1141
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 2: going to say to people when he says what he does.

1142
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 2: And I thought the bit that was most interesting was

1143
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 2: when he talked very pointedly about Ohio State's television performance

1144
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 2: and Ohio States brand and that you know, the schools

1145
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 2: that bring in that kind of TV audience should be

1146
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 2: rewarded for it in some way, because that is essentially

1147
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 2: what comprises the bulk of the AC. The revenue sharing

1148
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 2: model the AEC went to to keep Clemson and Florida

1149
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 2: State suite when they were exploring trying to get out

1150
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 2: of the conference. The a SEC. I think it's sixty

1151
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 2: percent of your revenue. Your revenue share annually is determined

1152
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 2: on a five year rolling average of basic essentially your

1153
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 2: television performance, how many people are watching the games you're

1154
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:33,959
Speaker 2: playing on TV, and so the more you're on TV,

1155
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 2: the more popular you are, the more money you're getting.

1156
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 2: And I think we can all understand why the ACC

1157
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 2: did that. It could not afford to lose those schools.

1158
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 2: It had to give them financial incentive. For so long,

1159
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 2: the Big Ten has not had to do that. If anything,

1160
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 2: the Big Ten's parody has has sort of underscored this

1161
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 2: sense of harmony that was seen as one of the

1162
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 2: Big Tens superpowers that you know, Big ten schools always

1163
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 2: moved in lockstep because there was a financial parody that Okay,

1164
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 2: Ohio State's going to make more on a football game

1165
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 2: day than Northwestern, but the conference in terms of what

1166
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 2: money is earned by a collective effort, the conference is

1167
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 2: going to treat everyone equally. And right now, the only

1168
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 2: schools that aren't on equal shares or organ in Washington

1169
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 2: because they're still being phased in the idea that that

1170
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 2: could be re explored is I mean it is. It

1171
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 2: is meaningful for a couple of reasons, and I don't

1172
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 2: want to get to macro. One is the obvious, which

1173
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 2: is your point if we do get to twenty thirty

1174
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 2: and the next TV deal winds up paying schools more

1175
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 2: money if they're on TV more often, if their games

1176
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 2: are being watched more often than Yes, you need to

1177
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 2: be You need to be better at football that you know,

1178
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 2: It's just the plain and simple truth of it. You

1179
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 2: need to have a number next year with you know,

1180
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 2: people say polls don't matter, but we all know if

1181
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 2: you've got a number it next to your name, you're

1182
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 2: a lot more likely to grab you know, the casual

1183
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 2: viewer on a Saturday afternoon for an hour. There's also

1184
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 2: kind of a macro piece of this, and you know,

1185
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 2: this is where really do get into a philosophical discussion

1186
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 2: that I think is dangerously sort of bottomless at the

1187
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 2: moment because there is no sort of there's no theoretical

1188
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 2: bottom to it is the questions over a super leak.

1189
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 2: And because when you have Clemson in Florida State, they

1190
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 2: can look at the.

1191
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 1: A Zach, Yeah, you know, my apology. I didn't mean

1192
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 1: to cut you off there, Zach Ostrman our guest. From there,

1193
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 1: you have a star. I have always felt and I've

1194
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 1: been saying it for ten years, and you probably heard

1195
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 1: me say it, you know, with you on the radio,

1196
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 1: Like I call it the Hat World League. And the

1197
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 1: reason I say that, you go into a hat World

1198
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:43,479
Speaker 1: or Lids or whatever the name of the hat store

1199
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 1: of your choice is in a in Butte, Montana, and

1200
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 1: you go in there. And whether you're in Butte, Montana, Jonesboro, Arkansas,

1201
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 1: or Portland, Maine, you go into a hat store like that.

1202
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 1: And from a college standpoint, they're selling Notre Dame, Ohio State, Clemson,

1203
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 1: Florida State, North Carolina, Texas, UCLA. You know, there's the

1204
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 1: same twenty schools that are just big time brands. And

1205
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 1: I am convinced that eventually we're going to get to

1206
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 1: the point where those twenty brands are going to come

1207
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 1: together and say, what are we doing here? Do we

1208
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 1: really want to be like bankrolling Northwestern and wake Forest,

1209
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 1: just do our own deal and sig it on it now.

1210
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 1: I thought that ten years ago. I don't know that

1211
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 1: I go there now, just because the money is being

1212
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 1: so distributed throughout because of nil and boosters and everything else.

1213
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 2: I've talked to it. So there's I talked to some

1214
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 2: people that are smarter than me in the TV space,

1215
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 2: and for years they've all kind of been super League.

1216
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 2: The future is super League? What does that look like?

1217
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 2: Is at twenty teams? Is the twenty four? Is thirty two?

1218
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 2: Is at forty? Is it just a big thing in

1219
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 2: the SEC league? And everybody to, you know, to pick

1220
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 2: the bones off off what's left? But they've all said

1221
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 2: super League. I will say that one or two that

1222
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:58,919
Speaker 2: I've talked to more recently have started to question whether

1223
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 2: the money will be there, whether there is because ultimately,

1224
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 2: for ten or fifteen years, cable TV was an ever

1225
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 2: expanding revenue stream that is beginning to contract. And instead

1226
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 2: of making pie like if we're going to torture this metaphor,

1227
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 2: instead of being able to make the pie larger and larger,

1228
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 2: every time a conference came back to a newest media

1229
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 2: rite steal, the pie is not getting bigger. Now. The

1230
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 2: question is basically, how can we carve off larger pieces

1231
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 2: for the brands that matter the most, the big game

1232
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 2: in the SEC, at the expense of the brands that

1233
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 2: matter a little bit less, and then the ACC will

1234
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 2: get more than the MAC, and the Big twelve will

1235
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 2: get more than the Sunbelt and so forth. This is

1236
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a deep over simplification, but there

1237
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 2: is a larger sense to which this is what killed

1238
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 2: in Fact twelve. There is I think a growing curiosity

1239
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 2: over whether there's actually enough money out there to convince

1240
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 2: Ohio State and Michigan to say, you know what, we

1241
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 2: have a lot more in common with Alabama and I

1242
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 2: don't know USC than we do with Northwestern and IU

1243
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 2: and Illinois. So we're just gonna go play football with them. Now,

1244
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 2: I think what maybe the Super League idea is starting

1245
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 2: to transform into is something much more big ken SEC

1246
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 2: plus possibly Notre Dame. But again, this is all very

1247
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 2: sort of theoretical, and what makes Ted Carter's comments this

1248
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 2: week I think particularly relevant is Clinton and Florida State

1249
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 2: have a lever they can pull. That might kill the ACC,

1250
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 2: but it doesn't kill college sports. If Clinton and FSU

1251
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 2: say hey, we're out, well they'll just go to the SEC,

1252
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 2: or they'll go to the Big Ten, or they'll get

1253
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 2: a sweetheart deal from the Big twelve because the Big

1254
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 2: twelve is desperate to have a couple of big time

1255
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 2: football brands. Whatever. Ohio State doesn't have a leader to pull,

1256
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 2: Ohio State doesn't have another league to go to, it's

1257
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 2: not going to go in depend that. The only red

1258
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 2: line Ohio State has to cross is to say, if

1259
01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 2: we don't get what we want, we are going to

1260
01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 2: spearhead the formation of a super league. Now you know,

1261
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 2: I am a fan of a longtime fan of European soccer.

1262
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 2: European soccer powers have been threatening a super league for

1263
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 2: thirty years, and they've come closet a couple of times,

1264
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:16,640
Speaker 2: the closest they ever came. The backlash to the announcement

1265
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 2: was so swift and universal and forceful that the super

1266
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:25,599
Speaker 2: league didn't last seventy two hours before almost everyone back down.

1267
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean that they'll never try it again. I'm

1268
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 2: just saying, if there are and again, this is a

1269
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:34,600
Speaker 2: conversation we don't have to get into today because it

1270
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 2: would be an hour's long deal. There are so many

1271
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 2: more parallels between European football. It's structure, it's culture, it's history,

1272
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:46,719
Speaker 2: it's dynamics and American college football than any other American sport.

1273
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 2: And that's why I do point to this whole like, hey,

1274
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 2: we all fear a super league. We've been feared a

1275
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 2: super league for thirty years in European football, and it

1276
01:08:55,920 --> 01:09:00,560
Speaker 2: still hasn't happened. Now it has been you stick to

1277
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 2: walk into negotiations with when we want to expand certain

1278
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:07,960
Speaker 2: things or change revenue distributions. And that's I think probably

1279
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 2: more of what Ted Carter was sort of floating a

1280
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 2: you know, a little bit of a trial balloon for

1281
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 2: this week, is like, hey, what what happens if at

1282
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 2: very least I say this just to make sure that

1283
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:21,679
Speaker 2: when we all go back to the table in twenty thirty,

1284
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 2: Ohio State gets one of the flushiest seats. I think

1285
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Speaker 2: that's may even more kind of what we're talking about.

1286
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 2: But listen to your point, if we do go to

1287
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:37,680
Speaker 2: that place, what is almost certainly going to determine the

1288
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 2: bulk of a school's annual media rights revenues. The bulk

1289
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:44,479
Speaker 2: of the school's annual cut from the television deal is

1290
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 2: going to be how often they're on TV and how

1291
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 2: well they perform when they're on TV. And that means

1292
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 2: being better. Mean it's being better at basketball too. We

1293
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 2: shouldn't forget that that's still a billion dollar business, but

1294
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:57,759
Speaker 2: it means first and foremost, being consistently better.

1295
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 1: At Listen, the Big you know, Ucla coming in was

1296
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 1: entirely because the Big Ten won in USC for football

1297
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 1: and UCLA USC wanted basically a travel partner, for lack

1298
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:12,480
Speaker 1: of a better phraser, a regional partner in USC piggybacked

1299
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 1: their way in the fact that UCLA is or excuse me,

1300
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:18,760
Speaker 1: UCLA piggyback their way in off of USC. The fact

1301
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:21,759
Speaker 1: that UCLA is a rich basketball program was a benefit,

1302
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 1: but I don't think was a driving force in UCLA

1303
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:27,720
Speaker 1: getting into the Big Ten. This is all all of

1304
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 1: this power stuff is based upon football and football revenue,

1305
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:35,599
Speaker 1: but conversation probably more expansively for another time. Tonight it

1306
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:38,680
Speaker 1: is Indiana, Indiana State. Zach Ostromer will have all of

1307
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 1: your coverage with the Indianapolis Star and joining us on

1308
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:44,599
Speaker 1: very short notice today is appreciated. Zach enjoy it man.

1309
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 2: Absolutely thanks for having me as.

1310
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 1: Always from the Indianapolis Star. Our buddy, Zach joining us

1311
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 1: on the show. All right, speaking of that publication, by

1312
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 1: the way, it is time to take a look at

1313
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 1: the action that is taking place tonight on grid irons

1314
01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 1: around the state that does not involve college So Kyle

1315
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:05,679
Speaker 1: Neddenrip joins us next. You know, when you think about

1316
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 1: that conversation of college football and superpowers and power conferences

1317
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 1: and all that in Ohio State, you know, every league,

1318
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:19,640
Speaker 1: every conference has their blue blood programs, and then everyone

1319
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 1: has the program that is just like a no name

1320
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 1: brand that seems lost and clueless. And it's like, I

1321
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 1: can understand why the Ohio States would say, we're not

1322
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 1: going to give that kind of money to the lost

1323
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 1: and clueless club within our particular league if we're the

1324
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 1: ones that are bringing it all in. But we shift

1325
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 1: from talking college football now to the high school standpoint.

1326
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:45,599
Speaker 8: Speaking of lost and clueless, we bring on Kyle Edrip

1327
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 8: from the.

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01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:49,599
Speaker 1: That's right, Kyle Needrip joining us now on the always

1329
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 1: busy and very active on this Friday guest line. Kyle,

1330
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 1: there are some big ones tonight, Man how are you.

1331
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:56,759
Speaker 6: You do on purpose?

1332
01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 3: Huh?

1333
01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 8: There, you know.

1334
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 1: We have that we have that bad. Hey listen, you

1335
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 1: said it not me, right.

1336
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 3: That's right.

1337
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:07,639
Speaker 8: It's my voice, so I'm gonna blame that's right.

1338
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 6: Uh Yeah, big games, it's.

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01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 8: A it's a really kind of a rivalry week so

1340
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 8: to speak. With the Mudsock game tonight.

1341
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 1: And uh by the way, right, uh.

1342
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:23,599
Speaker 8: Brownsburg and Avon and the uh Tenners County game shoots

1343
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 8: Harden Cathedral. Uh, you know, you kind of go down

1344
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 8: the list, there's quite a few of those type of

1345
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 8: games tonight, you know. So it'll be it'll be fun night,

1346
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 8: a lot of good a lot of good games, a

1347
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 8: little bit hotter than it's been the first few weeks,

1348
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 8: so kind of a throwback to uh to August it

1349
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 8: feels like tonight, So it'll be it'll be fun.

1350
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:43,639
Speaker 1: You know, there are always in college football, there's always

1351
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:46,799
Speaker 1: a weekend that they call separation Saturday, right where it's

1352
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 1: you know that you really find out who's for real

1353
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 1: and who's not. In high school football, are there any

1354
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 1: games tonight that you look at Kyle and you say,

1355
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 1: and there's one that I have in mind, but I'm

1356
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 1: not going to lead the witness us here a game

1357
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 1: that you look at it and say, these are two

1358
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:07,640
Speaker 1: teams or programs that we always assume are good, but

1359
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 1: perhaps tonight is where we really find out the separation

1360
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 1: between the two. Any games jump out.

1361
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 8: One I'm curious about is Carmel and Louisville Trinity because

1362
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 8: Carmel has been so good these first few weeks, and

1363
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 8: then you know, we always know Louisville Trinity's, you know,

1364
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 8: one of the best teams in the Midwest, and their

1365
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 8: rank number one in six in Kentucky. So going on

1366
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 8: the road to play that game, I think will give

1367
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:32,639
Speaker 8: us an even better you know, even though they're out

1368
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 8: of state. Normally I go the opposite way. I think

1369
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 8: that out of state games are sort of like, you know,

1370
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 8: we don't know who these teams are, but so it's

1371
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:40,640
Speaker 8: hard to have a measuring stick. Louisville Trinity is sort

1372
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:42,640
Speaker 8: of the opposite. We pretty much know every year and

1373
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:44,680
Speaker 8: they play a lot of in state teams anyway, So

1374
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:47,640
Speaker 8: I think that'll be a great test, especially to go

1375
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 8: away and try to win that game. And I noticed

1376
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 8: all the Kentucky people were picking Trinity and there in

1377
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 8: their predictions, so you know, it would be maybe a

1378
01:13:57,120 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 8: slight upset if Carmela could do it, but other great

1379
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:02,639
Speaker 8: test for them. I think that'll be, you know, one

1380
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 8: of the more interesting games. You know, there's probably some

1381
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 8: others or maybe another one you're thinking of as well,

1382
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 8: but I think there's there's a few that way, but

1383
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 8: that's probably the one I was. You know, Yeah, there's

1384
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 8: there's a lot.

1385
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 3: I HC.

1386
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 8: Fishers will tell us a lot too, but but that

1387
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 8: one kind of stuck out to me a little bit, like, Oh,

1388
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:19,679
Speaker 8: how good is Carmell. I think we'll we'll find out tonight.

1389
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 3: Okay.

1390
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:23,800
Speaker 1: Then the one that to me I'm curious about because

1391
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:26,640
Speaker 1: there are two programs that historically you always think are

1392
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 1: great programs. And you could look at the record of

1393
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 1: Ben Davis and say it's a down year for Ben Davis,

1394
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 1: but then you look at who they played, and for me,

1395
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 1: it's like, I still want to see one more test

1396
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 1: and they're going to get it tonight with center Grove. Now,

1397
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:40,839
Speaker 1: is there a clear disparity between these two teams.

1398
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, although center Grove is battling some injuries situated, they

1399
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:49,600
Speaker 8: lost to Drake mccluy, who deserved their standout receiver, I know,

1400
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 8: you know, running back. They've got an injury as well,

1401
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 8: so there's a little bit of you know, I do

1402
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 8: think Center Grove is the better, more experienced team this year,

1403
01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 8: and their their record so far and what they've done

1404
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:02,640
Speaker 8: so far kind of bears that out. Ben Davis is

1405
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 8: a little bit. They're definitely young. I mean they're starting

1406
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:07,519
Speaker 8: at freshman quarterback at six A, which is which is

1407
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 8: hard to do. Uh So I yeah, I And also

1408
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 8: the you know, sort of the the news this week

1409
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 8: with the mick uh bringing back Center Grove and Carmels

1410
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 8: sort of the even though this doesn't count as a

1411
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:21,599
Speaker 8: conference game, it's it's a reminder that these teams will

1412
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 8: be conference teams again. Center Grove and Ben Davis and

1413
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:28,480
Speaker 8: obviously two of the two of the premier football programs traditionally,

1414
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:30,800
Speaker 8: uh in the state. They've played some. I've covered a

1415
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 8: lot of the games between these teams in the in

1416
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:35,400
Speaker 8: the past that they have been very memorable. Uh So

1417
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 8: cool that they're back in the same conference again. But

1418
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 8: I think Center Grove's probably the the you know right now,

1419
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 8: is the better team. But yeah, Ben Davis will uh

1420
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:47,720
Speaker 8: They're not going to go anywhere you know, and I

1421
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 8: guarantee by the end of the season, they're going to

1422
01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 8: be a team don't want to don't want to play.

1423
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 4: Was that a Metropolitan interstill Lastic Conference decision or was

1424
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 4: that a Carmel and Center Grove decision to go back?

1425
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 8: I mean it was mutual. I mean, everybody has to

1426
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 8: agree on that, and you know, I think between you know, gosh,

1427
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 8: I had a lot of conversations with people, you know,

1428
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 8: even off the on end, off the record, I guess

1429
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:14,479
Speaker 8: about you know, kind of three and a half years ago,

1430
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 8: what has happened in the time since then. And you know,

1431
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:20,640
Speaker 8: I think it's for the betterment of both Carmel A

1432
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 8: and Center group. In the Mick, you know, when you

1433
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 8: only have six teams, you know, just you you you

1434
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:26,799
Speaker 8: down a cup. You know, you want to have a conference.

1435
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 8: You want to have probably eight teams is ideal, and

1436
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 8: you got two teams sitting out there as independents that

1437
01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 8: are having a hard time scheduling. And G've been down

1438
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 8: to the middle school. You know, having just to travel

1439
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:40,720
Speaker 8: and do those things in middle school is not ideal. So,

1440
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 8: you know, I think it was mutual, you know, and

1441
01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 8: the Mick wouldn't have voted in that in favor of

1442
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 8: it if they didn't want to have those schools back.

1443
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 8: So I think it's for everybody's benefit. And you know

1444
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:55,519
Speaker 8: it definitely had been hearing some things, uh, throughout the

1445
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 8: summer that probably led to led you to think this

1446
01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 8: could happen eventually. And I'm you know, I think for

1447
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:03,840
Speaker 8: the betterment of everybody. I think it's going to be good,

1448
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 8: you know, to have them back in the mix. So

1449
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 8: but yeah, I think it's I think it's both.

1450
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 1: One of the games. You know, I mentioned each week,

1451
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 1: Crystal House is the team that I'm going to spotlight

1452
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:17,799
Speaker 1: each and every week because it's you know, a smaller

1453
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 1: group of kids that are working hard. They've got Christmas addicts. Tonight,

1454
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 1: that's a seven o'clock kick. I wanted to ask this, Kyle,

1455
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:28,799
Speaker 1: because I think it's you know, I've always enjoyed these schools,

1456
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 1: and that is among the IPS schools, the one that

1457
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 1: so far through you know, the first I guess, gosh,

1458
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 1: hard to believe already quarter of the season, but the

1459
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 1: team that jumps out at you where you say, you

1460
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:42,559
Speaker 1: know what from an IPS school, that that might be

1461
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 1: the best one so far this year.

1462
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think Addicts is probably that team, and they're

1463
01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 8: you know, kind of some you know, they're going to

1464
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 8: have a new stadium. They're going to be playing in

1465
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:54,559
Speaker 8: pretty soon. Our refurbished stadium. That looks pretty cool that

1466
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:57,719
Speaker 8: you know that it's a long time coming for sure.

1467
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, they had a lot of problems with the literally

1468
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:04,599
Speaker 1: the foundation of the stands, right, weren't they having like yeah,

1469
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 1: I mean it needed In other words, this wasn't like

1470
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 1: just some cosmetic less I mean, this was a necessary

1471
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 1: upgrade for them.

1472
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 8: You literally couldn't watch games there anymore, you know, you couldn't,

1473
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 8: you know, it was that bad. I went over I

1474
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 8: did a story on one of their uh, one of

1475
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 8: their girl shot putters discus throwers. He's one of the

1476
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 8: best in the state. And you know, I was just

1477
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 8: over there, you know, kind of looking around at it,

1478
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 8: and it was just, you know, so much needed to

1479
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 8: be done. I'm glad, you know, they it's finally happening,

1480
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 8: and it's going to be a good Uh it's gonna

1481
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 8: look great, you know when it's all completed. But yeah,

1482
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 8: I was looking at their schedule. You know, they lost

1483
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 8: to Luther in Week one, a very competitive game that

1484
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 8: that Lutheran ended up pulling away and winning. But you know,

1485
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 8: then they beat Tech and Tinley the last two weeks

1486
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 8: and then going down. I was looking next week, you know,

1487
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 8: Predue Poly, Uh, they both could be undefeated next week

1488
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:53,679
Speaker 8: playing each other. That that'd be two fourign OH teams.

1489
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 8: And then you look at the rest of the schedule

1490
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 8: and I'm not sure there's another game. You know, I

1491
01:18:57,240 --> 01:19:00,439
Speaker 8: think they could maybe nowt and be you know, potentially

1492
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:03,960
Speaker 8: eight and one going into the sectional, which is you know,

1493
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 8: they're in four A, which is tough. You know, you're

1494
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:08,760
Speaker 8: the ACCT schools. They don't have the overall numbers of

1495
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 8: players a lot of these four A teams do usually,

1496
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:14,760
Speaker 8: but so you're battling an upfield battle against schools like

1497
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:17,599
Speaker 8: Ron Collie and Shatard in that same sectional. But if

1498
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 8: you can go eight and one, you know, that kind

1499
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:19,719
Speaker 8: of shows.

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01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 1: You know.

1501
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:22,799
Speaker 8: Addicts has definitely get their program going in the right direction.

1502
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:27,800
Speaker 8: They've been very competitive these last probably three or four years,

1503
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:30,640
Speaker 8: you know, so it's it's been a it's been a

1504
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 8: program on the upswing. But yeah, you're looking at what

1505
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 8: they've done so far, I think they're probably the team

1506
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 8: that stands out the most.

1507
01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 1: So tonight, Kyle will be at the Mudsot game, that

1508
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 1: is the Hamilton County rivalry game between Hamilton Southeastern and Fishers.

1509
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 1: And if I'm not mistaken, Kyle, even when in years

1510
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 1: that there has been like maybe you know, seemingly on

1511
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 1: paper a disparity between these two teams, this game almost

1512
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:55,559
Speaker 1: always comes down to a crazy finish, doesn't it.

1513
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:59,040
Speaker 8: Oh Man, so many times. It's just every almost every

1514
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 8: time I've covered it, it's been like an overtime or

1515
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:04,839
Speaker 8: a play at the goal line or you know, something

1516
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 8: wild that that you know happened. I can't imagine it

1517
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 8: won't be that late tonight.

1518
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 3: It's one of the unique games just you know, you

1519
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 3: don't have.

1520
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:15,599
Speaker 8: A lot of district you know, especially at this size

1521
01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:18,599
Speaker 8: of school. You know, teams kids that went to school together.

1522
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 8: You know, it's basically like brothers playing against each other

1523
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 8: in a lot of ways. So yeah, it's gonna you know,

1524
01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 8: it's almost always comes down to the wire. The crowds

1525
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 8: are enormous every year, and I think it used to

1526
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 8: be weak two and they pushed it back a couple

1527
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 8: of weeks, but it's it's, uh, yeah, it's always one

1528
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 8: of the best games on the schedule. The Red versus

1529
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 8: the Blue, and the colors of the stadium is really

1530
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:42,560
Speaker 8: neat too. So yeah, it'll be a great game. I

1531
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 8: can't imagine it won't be a field goal cut type

1532
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:48,680
Speaker 8: game either way, or touchdown game either way. Uh, you

1533
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 8: know they're they're both competitive this year anyway. But but

1534
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 8: it's just the nature, you know, like you said, the

1535
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 8: nature of this series, it just it's almost always a

1536
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:57,000
Speaker 8: crazy close game.

1537
01:20:57,040 --> 01:20:59,599
Speaker 1: High school football in Indiana. I'm telling you it's it's

1538
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:04,320
Speaker 1: pretty awesome. And between the kids, the local communities, the support,

1539
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:06,719
Speaker 1: the lights, I love all of it. And Kyle Needden

1540
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 1: RiPP will have all of it covered. Kyle appreciate the

1541
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:10,719
Speaker 1: time as always. All right, enjoy the games tonight.

1542
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 8: All right, guys, Thanks Jake.

1543
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:15,040
Speaker 1: Kyle A joining us from the Indianapol Star. We come

1544
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:18,879
Speaker 1: back kind of a rehash of a story in relation

1545
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 1: to Indianapolis that suddenly and quietly went on kind of

1546
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 1: the back burner all of you know. Literally, it was

1547
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:31,320
Speaker 1: in the forefront and then seemingly as quickly as it

1548
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 1: was a conversation, it's kind of faded away. But is

1549
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:38,679
Speaker 1: it about to come back at least on this show.

1550
01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:42,759
Speaker 1: It's about to I'll explain next. Yes, by the way,

1551
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 1: no Jalen Jones, we know that going to be out

1552
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:50,640
Speaker 1: a while for the Colts. No Ward Jinks, owe me

1553
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 1: a coke. And Leatu Latu did not practice today with

1554
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 1: a hamstring injury. We will see about his availability as

1555
01:21:57,080 --> 01:22:00,280
Speaker 1: the Colts and Broncos get set for their matchup Lucas

1556
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 1: Oil Stadium coming up on Sunday.

1557
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 4: Chang Siche did say about Latsu that there's a chance

1558
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 4: that he'll be on a pitch count.

1559
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 1: Well, it's like they're playing baseball. I know, right, there

1560
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:18,840
Speaker 1: was a lot of discussion. I just mentioned Lucas Oil

1561
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 1: Stadium and the fact that the Colts and Broncos are

1562
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 1: playing there on Sunday, and I don't necessarily need to

1563
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:33,000
Speaker 1: get into my typical rant about a multipurpose stadium and

1564
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:37,479
Speaker 1: the financial dollars that went into it. I just saw

1565
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 1: recently an article about the amount of money that has

1566
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 1: been spent now in US cities publicly subsidizing new stadiums,

1567
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 1: and there's now kind of this this wave of people

1568
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 1: coming to their senses about that. Truthfully, in this building,

1569
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like I take a survey. But

1570
01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:03,600
Speaker 1: Rob Kendall, I know, has talked a lot about this.

1571
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 1: He and I have talked a lot about it, just

1572
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 1: about public tax dollars and the necessity or lack thereof

1573
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:11,640
Speaker 1: for sports venues. And it's hard because I work on

1574
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:15,599
Speaker 1: a sports station and so I certainly understand what sports

1575
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 1: mean to this town. I think I've been, you know,

1576
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:22,719
Speaker 1: worn that on my sleeve pretty heavily. But the talk

1577
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 1: about an MLS team now apparently because someone texted in

1578
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:27,720
Speaker 1: and asked if we were part of this. Eddie and

1579
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:29,880
Speaker 1: I have heard of this. There was like a focus

1580
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 1: group or a survey that took place recently again in

1581
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 1: Indianapolis about the viability of an MLS team in Indianapolis.

1582
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 1: And I think this is interesting because this was a

1583
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 1: ubiquitous storyline I don't know, like maybe last spring, and

1584
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:58,880
Speaker 1: in a short version of it. You have in this town,

1585
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 1: the India eleven. They are owned by a business owner

1586
01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:07,719
Speaker 1: that is predominantly in the large construction building business. They

1587
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:14,720
Speaker 1: began building their own complex and retail and business and

1588
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:19,200
Speaker 1: stadium park just to the west of downtown and the

1589
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 1: old Diamond Chain facility. The problem is not only did

1590
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 1: you have some environmental question marks because of the diamond

1591
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 1: chain and some of the stuff that was left behind

1592
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 1: of residue there with that, but also that is the

1593
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:41,680
Speaker 1: grounds of the one of the original largest cemeteries in

1594
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:43,599
Speaker 1: central Indiana, the Green Lawn. I believe it was known

1595
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 1: as cemetery from like one hundred years ago, and by

1596
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 1: state law, when you begin building something, if you find

1597
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:51,800
Speaker 1: any remnant of human remains, you have to stop everything.

1598
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 1: I mean understandably so, and I think they kept that

1599
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 1: happened on more than one occasion and made the exec

1600
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:05,639
Speaker 1: and then building of that park a challenge. In addition

1601
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 1: to that, during that process, the news came out that

1602
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:13,240
Speaker 1: the Mayor's office of Indianapolis had had meetings with the

1603
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 1: MLS Major League Soccer, and that the MLS had said,

1604
01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 1: we would have interest in Indianapolis, but we would prefer

1605
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 1: with a different ownership group than that of the India eleven.

1606
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that factually, but that's been reported. It

1607
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 1: then appears as though the mayor's office began kind of

1608
01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:39,880
Speaker 1: a survey amongst people in town and had conversations with

1609
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 1: the ownership group of the Pacers and Herb Simon of

1610
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 1: the possibility of building a soccer stadium just to the

1611
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:51,959
Speaker 1: east of Gamebridge Fieldhouse, in an area that the Simons

1612
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:56,720
Speaker 1: would not have ownership in, but they facilitated a conversation

1613
01:25:56,800 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 1: between the City of Indianapolis and a potential invest I

1614
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 1: believe an English professor investor, excuse me, that would be

1615
01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:07,639
Speaker 1: able to give money and buy into an ownership group

1616
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:10,960
Speaker 1: for an MLS team in Indianapolis. Now, what I think

1617
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:13,280
Speaker 1: people are a little bit naive to is the amount

1618
01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:16,120
Speaker 1: that it would cost just to pay the entry fee.

1619
01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:20,919
Speaker 1: You're talking upward of probably five hundred million or closer

1620
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 1: to even into the billion dollar range, just for the

1621
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:28,920
Speaker 1: expansion fee to get in to the MLS, and then

1622
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 1: on top of that whatever it would cost for a

1623
01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 1: stadium and to bring it full circle back. I would

1624
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:38,040
Speaker 1: be all for a soccer team in Indianapolis. I would

1625
01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 1: be all for even more sports venues in Indianapolis. But

1626
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:44,960
Speaker 1: it is my belief that the days of any of

1627
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:46,920
Speaker 1: that coming at the cost of a dollar out of

1628
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:50,080
Speaker 1: my pocket are done. Because we spent seven hundred and

1629
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 1: twenty million dollars on a stadium that we were told

1630
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:55,880
Speaker 1: was the one size fits all, end all be all.

1631
01:26:56,040 --> 01:27:02,320
Speaker 1: Never asked for my dollars again, point being, I think

1632
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:06,439
Speaker 1: it's interesting that this conversation of Indianapolis and professional soccer

1633
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:11,000
Speaker 1: was ubiquitous six months ago, and I'm saying it right now.

1634
01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:13,559
Speaker 1: Most people are probably saying to themselves, you know what,

1635
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:15,720
Speaker 1: that's right. I haven't heard about that in forever, like

1636
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:19,559
Speaker 1: what happened, And I don't know where things have stalled,

1637
01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:22,799
Speaker 1: but it's almost like that conversation just kind of vanished.

1638
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 1: I think it'd be awesome. I think it'd be cool,

1639
01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:28,400
Speaker 1: and I know that there are you know, soccer is

1640
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:31,400
Speaker 1: a sport that I put it on. I'm not an

1641
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:33,720
Speaker 1: avid fan, but I mean, you know how long a

1642
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 1: game is going to be. When you go into it.

1643
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 1: There's NonStop action. You know it's going to be two hours.

1644
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 1: And I know young people like it and it's there's

1645
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:43,400
Speaker 1: no doubt it has increased in popularity versus twenty or

1646
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 1: thirty years ago. It's been the sport of the future

1647
01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 1: since nineteen seventy eight. But it does seem that now

1648
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:50,519
Speaker 1: it is more in the American culture than it was, say,

1649
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 1: ten or fifteen years ago. But where it stands with Indianapolis,

1650
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:58,320
Speaker 1: I simply find it interesting that it's gone from vocal

1651
01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:02,680
Speaker 1: conversation to now kind of whisper Saturday that meeting tomorrow.

1652
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:04,960
Speaker 1: It is Purdue in usc and they're gonna honor the

1653
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 1: Rose Bowl team from two thousand. One of the guys

1654
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:09,759
Speaker 1: that not only was a great player on that team,

1655
01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:13,439
Speaker 1: not only was nationally recognized, he was the first to

1656
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:16,360
Speaker 1: win an award that might actually give a little bit

1657
01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 1: of glimpse into what is a key offensively for the Colts.

1658
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 1: On Sunday, Tim Stratton joins us next what I get

1659
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:26,680
Speaker 1: the impression. I have no idea. I've never met this

1660
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 1: next individual. I watched him play a lot of football,

1661
01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 1: and that was a team in an era that I

1662
01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:38,080
Speaker 1: was covering Perdue and Tim Stratton was a fabulous player

1663
01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:41,160
Speaker 1: for the Boilermakers. A three time first team All Bigton performer.

1664
01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:44,840
Speaker 1: He was the inaugural John Mackie Award winner for the

1665
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:47,400
Speaker 1: best tight end in college football. He caught passes not

1666
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:50,760
Speaker 1: only from Drew Brees but Kyle Orton. He climbed a

1667
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:54,759
Speaker 1: goalpost once. I have no idea, but I'm gonna guess

1668
01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 1: Tim Stratton probably is a Green Day fan. I don't

1669
01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:00,559
Speaker 1: know why I think that. I just think that Tim

1670
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:02,839
Speaker 1: Stratton joining us on the program. He will be honored

1671
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:06,360
Speaker 1: along with his Rose Bowl teammates tomorrow at Raws Aid

1672
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:09,679
Speaker 1: for Purdue and USC Fact or fiction, Tim Stratton, Tim

1673
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:10,519
Speaker 1: likes Green Day.

1674
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 3: Tim used to like Green Day until they got political.

1675
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:15,839
Speaker 3: Then I stopped.

1676
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 1: Yes, So college Tim Stratton liked Green Day.

1677
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:24,360
Speaker 3: Correct, correct, that is correct. I was a fan.

1678
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:27,000
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, now if it makes you feel any better.

1679
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:30,479
Speaker 1: And you and I have never met, but college Jake

1680
01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:33,760
Speaker 1: had an internship in New York City and met this

1681
01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:36,000
Speaker 1: chick and like thought, everything was going great. And then

1682
01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:39,400
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety four and she told me that her

1683
01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:41,880
Speaker 1: boyfriend's band was coming for the weekend so she couldn't

1684
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:43,800
Speaker 1: get together. And it turns out her boyfriend's band was

1685
01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:45,840
Speaker 1: in Green Day. So Jake also used to like Green

1686
01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 1: Day and no longer does.

1687
01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:50,120
Speaker 3: That's awesome, that's awesome.

1688
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:54,760
Speaker 1: That's fair. Right, Hey, let's get to this, and that

1689
01:29:55,040 --> 01:29:59,120
Speaker 1: is you know, there's when I think back to this

1690
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:01,320
Speaker 1: team that's going to be honored tomorrow and that Rose

1691
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:03,839
Speaker 1: Bowl team. You know, we talked to Seth Morales yesterday

1692
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:07,320
Speaker 1: and the Holy Toledo play against Ohio State and it

1693
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 1: just was such a fun group to watch play and

1694
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 1: now you get a chance to go back and be

1695
01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:15,400
Speaker 1: honored for the twenty fifth anniversary. First off, does it

1696
01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:16,880
Speaker 1: feel like twenty five years ago?

1697
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:21,360
Speaker 3: There's there's times where it does and times where it does,

1698
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:23,439
Speaker 3: and I guess it depends on how my backfields when

1699
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:25,960
Speaker 3: I get up in the morning. But you know, it's

1700
01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:27,960
Speaker 3: it's going to be great to a lot of the

1701
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:31,519
Speaker 3: guys that are that are coming back in. I now

1702
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:34,960
Speaker 3: have you know my daughters that are been active in sports.

1703
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:38,640
Speaker 3: I'm a collegiate volleyball player now. So I told the

1704
01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:40,760
Speaker 3: guys that when I was coming in, I go, you know,

1705
01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:42,479
Speaker 3: I'll be watching the game on the field, but I

1706
01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:44,600
Speaker 3: will also probably be watching my daughter's game on my

1707
01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:47,160
Speaker 3: phone at the same time. So you know, it's just

1708
01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:50,040
Speaker 3: a different synmic now for for a lot of us.

1709
01:30:50,120 --> 01:30:51,919
Speaker 1: Okay, your daughter's a volleyball player.

1710
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:54,320
Speaker 3: Where Youngstown State University.

1711
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:57,280
Speaker 1: Oh that's cool, speaking of which Horizon League, by the way,

1712
01:30:57,320 --> 01:31:00,519
Speaker 1: based right here in Indy. And you know the I'll

1713
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:05,080
Speaker 1: tell you tim, volleyball is amazing because first off, you know,

1714
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:07,920
Speaker 1: they've got a professional team now here in Indy. That

1715
01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:10,439
Speaker 1: is a sport that you want to talk about like

1716
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:13,160
Speaker 1: momentum I would imagine you, and you tell me if

1717
01:31:13,160 --> 01:31:16,360
Speaker 1: I'm wrong here, I would imagine Tim Stratton gets more

1718
01:31:16,479 --> 01:31:19,760
Speaker 1: on edge and nervous watching volleyball than he ever did

1719
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:21,240
Speaker 1: lining up as a football player.

1720
01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:26,920
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I actually was a volleyball player in Illinois

1721
01:31:28,120 --> 01:31:30,519
Speaker 3: coming out of high school's recruited to play football and

1722
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:33,280
Speaker 3: basketball and volleyball in college. And I ended up choosing

1723
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:37,120
Speaker 3: football because you know, it just happened. But I love

1724
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:39,240
Speaker 3: the sport. I love the fact my daughters were in it.

1725
01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:43,479
Speaker 3: My middle one is the one that's completely focused on

1726
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:45,160
Speaker 3: it and really worked her bought off to gets to

1727
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:48,680
Speaker 3: a scholarship for college. And I'm just really proud of her.

1728
01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:51,240
Speaker 1: So let's talk about what it was if you had

1729
01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:53,400
Speaker 1: those options, you know, and you were part of Joe

1730
01:31:53,439 --> 01:31:56,519
Speaker 1: Tiller's first recruiting class at Purdue. If I'm not mistaken,

1731
01:31:56,560 --> 01:31:59,880
Speaker 1: What was it about Purdue initially and Joe Tiller that

1732
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:03,800
Speaker 1: drew Tim Stratton out of Oakbrook, Illinois to West Lafayette.

1733
01:32:05,320 --> 01:32:08,280
Speaker 3: The fact that coach brought eight of his coaches to

1734
01:32:08,439 --> 01:32:11,639
Speaker 3: my house. When we sat around my parents' dining room

1735
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:15,320
Speaker 3: table and Coach was he asked me what I wanted

1736
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:16,840
Speaker 3: to do or you know what I wanted to major,

1737
01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:19,000
Speaker 3: and I said history. He goes, all right, one was

1738
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:22,160
Speaker 3: Purdue founded? And I had no clue when Purdue was

1739
01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:24,439
Speaker 3: founded it because the only thing I knew about Purdue

1740
01:32:24,479 --> 01:32:27,800
Speaker 3: was Mike Golstatt and you know, maybe the astronast. That

1741
01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:31,479
Speaker 3: was about the only thing I knew back then. Obviously

1742
01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:34,519
Speaker 3: no social media, and the games were ever on TV.

1743
01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:36,719
Speaker 3: It was always the Minnesota game that was like fifty

1744
01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:38,800
Speaker 3: eight to forty eight or you know, they were always

1745
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:41,519
Speaker 3: high scoring games. So but you know the fact that

1746
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:45,840
Speaker 3: they showed up Coach Corporates, the old quarterbacks coach that

1747
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:48,240
Speaker 3: was supposed to come with he passed away that summer

1748
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:51,840
Speaker 3: before we got there, so eight of the nine assistants

1749
01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:54,040
Speaker 3: were there. And it really made a huge impact on

1750
01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:57,240
Speaker 3: me and my family and just really fell them love

1751
01:32:57,280 --> 01:33:01,320
Speaker 3: with the offense and the potential. I was obviously one

1752
01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:03,479
Speaker 3: hundred and ninety five pound wide receiver in high school.

1753
01:33:03,479 --> 01:33:06,120
Speaker 3: But they said, listen our tight end at Wyoming last

1754
01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:07,880
Speaker 3: year on eighty balls, do you want to be like

1755
01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:09,280
Speaker 3: that or do you want to be a slow receiver

1756
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:12,400
Speaker 3: somewhere else? I'm like, that's a good point. So it

1757
01:33:12,520 --> 01:33:15,479
Speaker 3: was a good selling point. It was also the fact

1758
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:17,760
Speaker 3: that in the Big Ten at that time, there were

1759
01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:22,080
Speaker 3: a bunch of coaches coming in and Tiller's staff was

1760
01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:23,920
Speaker 3: the only coach. Tiller was the only one that brought

1761
01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:26,080
Speaker 3: his entire staff with him. Everyone else was putting the

1762
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:28,200
Speaker 3: other of their staffs, you know, Cam Cameron at IU,

1763
01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:32,720
Speaker 3: Turner Illinois, Nason of Minnesota. So they're they're the continuity

1764
01:33:33,080 --> 01:33:35,320
Speaker 3: for them coming in, I thought would be a huge

1765
01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:37,679
Speaker 3: benefit for myself and for the team.

1766
01:33:38,160 --> 01:33:40,720
Speaker 1: You know, my recollection of this, tim and this may

1767
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:43,320
Speaker 1: be way off, and you know, and I want to

1768
01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:45,360
Speaker 1: get to you know, some of your your great games

1769
01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:48,120
Speaker 1: you had and you know obviously catching balls from Drew

1770
01:33:48,160 --> 01:33:50,439
Speaker 1: Brees and Kyle Orton, I mean, both great quarterbacks. You know,

1771
01:33:50,479 --> 01:33:52,960
Speaker 1: there's a lot to get to there, but my recollection,

1772
01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:55,519
Speaker 1: and you tell me if I'm wrong. I remember later

1773
01:33:55,640 --> 01:33:58,760
Speaker 1: in your career that you were kind of a guy

1774
01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:02,360
Speaker 1: that Joe Tiller All always was kind of poking is

1775
01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:07,080
Speaker 1: the wrong word, but using as an example of areas

1776
01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:10,360
Speaker 1: that he wanted leadership and maturity out of, and that

1777
01:34:10,439 --> 01:34:14,040
Speaker 1: he pushed you harder than maybe other guys. But that's

1778
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:18,880
Speaker 1: a from outside perspective. Was there any accuracy to my

1779
01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:19,719
Speaker 1: assumption there.

1780
01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:24,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was some to it. I also was unfortunately

1781
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:27,599
Speaker 3: immature and childish and kind of a creature of the moment,

1782
01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:31,320
Speaker 3: and so you know, not necessarily looking at long term,

1783
01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:34,520
Speaker 3: but more the short term and you know, instant gratification

1784
01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:36,960
Speaker 3: kind of. I guess now this younger generation, I guess

1785
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:40,800
Speaker 3: I'm in the wrong generation. But yeah, I just I

1786
01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:43,160
Speaker 3: wanted to have fun. And you know, we always had

1787
01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:45,519
Speaker 3: Drew to tell media that what the school wanted them

1788
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:47,439
Speaker 3: to hear, and then you had me that told the truth.

1789
01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:52,160
Speaker 3: So it was many many tongue lashings from not only

1790
01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:54,439
Speaker 3: Coach but all my parents and you know Timmy, which

1791
01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:57,719
Speaker 3: just shut up, like just stop stop saying what you're saying.

1792
01:34:57,720 --> 01:35:00,519
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, I'm not lying, you know. So it's

1793
01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:04,519
Speaker 3: uh uh, you know, having a little bit of kuds

1794
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:06,320
Speaker 3: was not something I had back then.

1795
01:35:06,479 --> 01:35:08,679
Speaker 1: So what was your relationship with Joe Tiller?

1796
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:13,240
Speaker 3: Coach and I got along great. We I know, publicly

1797
01:35:13,320 --> 01:35:15,400
Speaker 3: it didn't look like we did, but we actually got

1798
01:35:15,439 --> 01:35:18,040
Speaker 3: along great. I mean I considered him and Jim Cheney

1799
01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:20,400
Speaker 3: is kind of like my other two dads, and Coach

1800
01:35:20,439 --> 01:35:23,080
Speaker 3: hope to be honest with you, So the uh. But

1801
01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:27,800
Speaker 3: we got along great. You know, we did have our

1802
01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:31,120
Speaker 3: moments where, you know, publicly when I lost my helmet

1803
01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:33,960
Speaker 3: or you know, all that jazz is the Michigan game.

1804
01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:38,680
Speaker 3: You know, we had a few little run ins, I

1805
01:35:38,720 --> 01:35:40,960
Speaker 3: would say, but all in all, we got along great.

1806
01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:44,120
Speaker 1: And by the way, because I do have to ask

1807
01:35:44,120 --> 01:35:47,320
Speaker 1: about it. So you guys beat Michigan, you climb up

1808
01:35:47,320 --> 01:35:50,080
Speaker 1: the goalposts and then somebody swipes your helmet. Right now, now,

1809
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:51,680
Speaker 1: how all did this go down? For those that are

1810
01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:54,400
Speaker 1: unfamiliar with the story, enlighten us with the detail.

1811
01:35:55,680 --> 01:35:58,679
Speaker 3: All right, So Travis makes the game winning field goal,

1812
01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:02,280
Speaker 3: we win the game. Myself and Brandon Goran, who's a

1813
01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:05,320
Speaker 3: monthly native, we were gonna we tried to go across

1814
01:36:05,320 --> 01:36:08,720
Speaker 3: the field to say hi, to hide a buddy from

1815
01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:10,920
Speaker 3: Chicago that was on Michigan. So I tried to, you know,

1816
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:13,880
Speaker 3: go talking after the game, but Brandon wanted to go

1817
01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:16,240
Speaker 3: talk to one of his buddies, but the crowd rushed

1818
01:36:16,320 --> 01:36:19,120
Speaker 3: the field. By the time I had lost track of Gorn,

1819
01:36:19,160 --> 01:36:21,240
Speaker 3: I didn't know where he went. So by the time

1820
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:23,560
Speaker 3: I got to the north end zone goal, like you know,

1821
01:36:23,680 --> 01:36:25,719
Speaker 3: end zone, just sing the fight song with the band.

1822
01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:27,880
Speaker 3: The team was already gone, like they were rushed off

1823
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:30,240
Speaker 3: the field, and so I was like, you know what,

1824
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:32,240
Speaker 3: I thought all these kids were around me, and I'm like,

1825
01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:33,800
Speaker 3: you know what, screw it, Let's go to the goal post.

1826
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:37,240
Speaker 3: And I handed my helmet to a kid in one

1827
01:36:37,240 --> 01:36:39,439
Speaker 3: of my classes because I recognized them in the class.

1828
01:36:40,200 --> 01:36:42,400
Speaker 3: And apparently so the kids were trying to lift me up,

1829
01:36:42,560 --> 01:36:46,320
Speaker 3: you know, my full uniform, and he put the helmet

1830
01:36:46,360 --> 01:36:49,360
Speaker 3: down to help lift me up. And that's when another

1831
01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:53,600
Speaker 3: student swiped the helmet. And so after I got you know,

1832
01:36:53,640 --> 01:36:55,120
Speaker 3: hanging off the goal posts, I was hanging on the

1833
01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:57,160
Speaker 3: goal post. Then I got crowd served about the fifty

1834
01:36:57,240 --> 01:37:02,160
Speaker 3: yard line, and when I got down from you know that,

1835
01:37:02,720 --> 01:37:06,280
Speaker 3: I realized them I got to crap my helmets gun

1836
01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:09,560
Speaker 3: get you overwhell. So I tried to usher you know,

1837
01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:11,400
Speaker 3: her quiet down the kids that are around me and

1838
01:37:11,479 --> 01:37:13,839
Speaker 3: just a fifty bucks in the case of here whoever

1839
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:15,559
Speaker 3: can find my helmet, and I sort of got you

1840
01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:20,040
Speaker 3: saw every kid like looking all over pretty pommable. And

1841
01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:22,280
Speaker 3: then by the time I got to the locker room,

1842
01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:24,880
Speaker 3: the team had already like coach already spoke the team

1843
01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:26,800
Speaker 3: like most of the guys were showered already out of

1844
01:37:26,800 --> 01:37:30,600
Speaker 3: the locker room. So I'm like, all right, well, I

1845
01:37:30,720 --> 01:37:36,160
Speaker 3: guess I don't have my helmet. And so Sunday's practice

1846
01:37:36,520 --> 01:37:38,760
Speaker 3: we would practice on Sundays and off on Mondays. I

1847
01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:41,960
Speaker 3: had a backup helmet that was you know, given to me,

1848
01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:46,880
Speaker 3: and Sunday night I would write a diary for ABC

1849
01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:50,960
Speaker 3: sports dot Com that year that season, and so I

1850
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:55,200
Speaker 3: wrote in the diary or in the in my uh yeah,

1851
01:37:55,200 --> 01:37:57,760
Speaker 3: in the diary, I submitted it to our sid who

1852
01:37:57,760 --> 01:38:00,519
Speaker 3: then submits to SI you know, to publish it. And

1853
01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:03,040
Speaker 3: so I wrote in there, if anyone has any whereabouts

1854
01:38:03,560 --> 01:38:06,760
Speaker 3: my helmet, I will give you the game ball from

1855
01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:10,320
Speaker 3: the Michigan game. And so we got all these calls

1856
01:38:10,360 --> 01:38:12,040
Speaker 3: we got, I mean, back then we only had call

1857
01:38:12,080 --> 01:38:13,720
Speaker 3: our idea. That was like the new thing back then,

1858
01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:16,799
Speaker 3: and so we got all these random bults from numbers

1859
01:38:16,840 --> 01:38:18,479
Speaker 3: that you know, we'd get in the car and drive

1860
01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:20,400
Speaker 3: over to you know, someone would say at this house

1861
01:38:20,439 --> 01:38:22,840
Speaker 3: and at that house, and like idiots, we just drove

1862
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:25,960
Speaker 3: all over looking for it. And because Taylor had threatened

1863
01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:28,719
Speaker 3: to suspend me the following week against North Cluster, which

1864
01:38:28,720 --> 01:38:30,519
Speaker 3: for me was like a home game, you know, back

1865
01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:36,719
Speaker 3: up here in Chicago. So Sunday practice, have the backup Monday,

1866
01:38:36,720 --> 01:38:39,360
Speaker 3: we're off Tuesday. I wear that up helmet Wednesday, backup

1867
01:38:39,400 --> 01:38:43,439
Speaker 3: helmet Thursday's practice. I get to the locker room and

1868
01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:46,599
Speaker 3: the backup helmet's gone, and I'm like, gosh, you know, crap.

1869
01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:49,040
Speaker 3: I looked at Metrion, I looked at Vinnie. I looked

1870
01:38:49,040 --> 01:38:51,120
Speaker 3: at the usual suspects right that light. I looked at

1871
01:38:51,160 --> 01:38:53,320
Speaker 3: the guys i'd know would mess with me. I'm like,

1872
01:38:53,360 --> 01:38:55,439
Speaker 3: who took it? And all of them were like, we

1873
01:38:55,479 --> 01:38:56,960
Speaker 3: didn't do it, we didn't take it. So I went

1874
01:38:57,000 --> 01:39:00,040
Speaker 3: to the manager, the our equipment manager, Mike Shandrick, and

1875
01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:02,679
Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, Mikey, where's my where's my other helmet.

1876
01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:04,960
Speaker 3: He's like, coach told us to take it away. I'm

1877
01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:07,720
Speaker 3: like all right. So Thursday's practice he was like a

1878
01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:11,200
Speaker 3: shelf practice where it's shoulder pad onlmets and dieboards. So

1879
01:39:11,479 --> 01:39:13,640
Speaker 3: I went out there and just my shoulder pads and

1880
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:16,840
Speaker 3: my you know shorts and tiewards with no helmet, you know,

1881
01:39:17,240 --> 01:39:20,000
Speaker 3: start getting in the stretch lines and Feller comes walking

1882
01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:22,800
Speaker 3: up to me. He's like, hey, where's your where's your helmet?

1883
01:39:22,960 --> 01:39:25,000
Speaker 3: I said, coach, you know, damn where? Well where my

1884
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:27,280
Speaker 3: helmet is? You had it taken away. He's like, I

1885
01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:29,360
Speaker 3: told you you don't get your hemet back. You're playing.

1886
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:34,400
Speaker 3: And I said, coach, that's bs. I said, Thunderboy, which

1887
01:39:34,439 --> 01:39:36,160
Speaker 3: is my nickname for Drew. I said, wonder Boy. I

1888
01:39:36,200 --> 01:39:38,559
Speaker 3: had his helmet take it two years ago after a

1889
01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:41,200
Speaker 3: bowl practice. No one said a word. But I'm the

1890
01:39:41,320 --> 01:39:43,519
Speaker 3: jerk tickets, you know, his helmet taking, and I'm you know,

1891
01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:45,840
Speaker 3: now I'm the one being suspended. I go, that's not fair.

1892
01:39:46,200 --> 01:39:48,360
Speaker 3: I use some other words. But we're on public radios,

1893
01:39:48,439 --> 01:39:53,360
Speaker 3: so yes. And so he's like, I didn't know about that.

1894
01:39:53,479 --> 01:39:56,200
Speaker 3: I'm like, coach, everyone, I just knew about it. You know,

1895
01:39:56,400 --> 01:39:59,240
Speaker 3: it is what it is, so lo and behold my backup.

1896
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:01,360
Speaker 3: Helmet comes back, you know, comes down to the field.

1897
01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:03,760
Speaker 3: I put it out of practice. And then that night

1898
01:40:04,200 --> 01:40:07,040
Speaker 3: one of our roommates answered the phone at like in

1899
01:40:07,040 --> 01:40:12,160
Speaker 3: the morning and Alex tone from Layne and he some

1900
01:40:12,320 --> 01:40:15,360
Speaker 3: kid called from a computer lab, a compute for Neue

1901
01:40:15,439 --> 01:40:17,400
Speaker 3: University Computer Labs. That's how it popped up on the

1902
01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:20,040
Speaker 3: caller ID, which is smart on that kid's part. So

1903
01:40:20,160 --> 01:40:22,120
Speaker 3: you know, we were trying to track down whoever took it,

1904
01:40:22,680 --> 01:40:26,080
Speaker 3: and he just said, listen, can you please give Tim

1905
01:40:26,120 --> 01:40:28,880
Speaker 3: Stratton a you know, a message, let him know his

1906
01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:30,960
Speaker 3: helmet is where he left it, underneath the north end

1907
01:40:31,040 --> 01:40:34,080
Speaker 3: zone gold posset. So Alex said, sure, hung up. The

1908
01:40:34,160 --> 01:40:37,240
Speaker 3: kid called back fifteen minutes later, say please, can you

1909
01:40:37,520 --> 01:40:39,400
Speaker 3: just repeat what I had the message I need to

1910
01:40:39,400 --> 01:40:43,000
Speaker 3: give to Tim? And Alex like, sure, under the gold polls. Great,

1911
01:40:43,160 --> 01:40:46,160
Speaker 3: hung up. Well, apparently the kid broke into the stadium

1912
01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:49,240
Speaker 3: put the helmet underneath the north end zone goal posts

1913
01:40:49,240 --> 01:40:51,559
Speaker 3: where he found it, and it had a letter in

1914
01:40:51,640 --> 01:40:54,639
Speaker 3: it which stated, hear, mister Stratton, I hope this helmet

1915
01:40:54,640 --> 01:40:56,720
Speaker 3: brings you as much pleasure and has brought me these

1916
01:40:56,800 --> 01:41:01,040
Speaker 3: past few days and something else. But my sick mind

1917
01:41:01,160 --> 01:41:02,599
Speaker 3: was just thinking, look what did you do with it?

1918
01:41:03,080 --> 01:41:07,400
Speaker 3: And right, you know, like you know, being an eighteen,

1919
01:41:07,439 --> 01:41:10,719
Speaker 3: nineteen twenty year old kid, that's immediately what I thought. Uh.

1920
01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:12,880
Speaker 3: And it turns out that he had called also called

1921
01:41:12,880 --> 01:41:15,200
Speaker 3: the coach Killer's office and left the message with Carlita

1922
01:41:15,320 --> 01:41:18,479
Speaker 3: or our secretary, and so the managers went in that

1923
01:41:18,479 --> 01:41:21,360
Speaker 3: that morning, you know, took the helmet, apark just efected it,

1924
01:41:21,400 --> 01:41:23,240
Speaker 3: put it back together, and I was able to play

1925
01:41:23,640 --> 01:41:25,080
Speaker 3: the rest of the season with it. And now that

1926
01:41:25,120 --> 01:41:26,519
Speaker 3: helmet doesn't doesn't leave me.

1927
01:41:26,760 --> 01:41:28,320
Speaker 1: So where did you know that? Did you ever find

1928
01:41:28,320 --> 01:41:29,680
Speaker 1: out who the kid was? Did you give them a

1929
01:41:29,720 --> 01:41:30,200
Speaker 1: keay sa beer?

1930
01:41:31,360 --> 01:41:33,439
Speaker 3: You know what I did? Not what I did? He

1931
01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:37,080
Speaker 3: sent like a couple of buddies, or at least they

1932
01:41:37,080 --> 01:41:39,400
Speaker 3: claimed to be his friends. They wanted the game ball

1933
01:41:39,439 --> 01:41:41,719
Speaker 3: from the Michigan game, because that's what that was my reward,

1934
01:41:42,479 --> 01:41:45,760
Speaker 3: And uh so I ended up taking a practice ball

1935
01:41:46,280 --> 01:41:48,439
Speaker 3: and had a couple of the walk on you know,

1936
01:41:48,520 --> 01:41:50,160
Speaker 3: sign it and give it to the kid, and didn't like,

1937
01:41:50,160 --> 01:41:51,559
Speaker 3: screw you, you know what I mean, like if you're

1938
01:41:53,560 --> 01:41:54,760
Speaker 3: all right, if you're not, if you're not going to

1939
01:41:54,840 --> 01:41:57,120
Speaker 3: be a man enough to like come and at least say, hey,

1940
01:41:57,120 --> 01:42:00,479
Speaker 3: it's my fault. I'm sorry. But it turns out I

1941
01:42:00,479 --> 01:42:02,800
Speaker 3: found out from his friend that the kid when he

1942
01:42:02,800 --> 01:42:05,200
Speaker 3: took the helmet, he went home, it was tall breakd

1943
01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:07,760
Speaker 3: and he's lived a couple hours away, so he gave

1944
01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:10,400
Speaker 3: the helmet to his little brother, and so it took

1945
01:42:10,479 --> 01:42:12,439
Speaker 3: him a couple of days to get back to you know,

1946
01:42:12,479 --> 01:42:14,320
Speaker 3: grab it and bring it back to school, So that

1947
01:42:14,320 --> 01:42:18,439
Speaker 3: that was the delay, but nonetheless it was me being stupid.

1948
01:42:18,479 --> 01:42:22,280
Speaker 1: So here's that thing though. Look, and I get the

1949
01:42:22,280 --> 01:42:24,800
Speaker 1: fact that like from a now that we are adults, right,

1950
01:42:24,800 --> 01:42:26,080
Speaker 1: you got to look back and say, you know, that

1951
01:42:26,200 --> 01:42:28,240
Speaker 1: was immature and whatever else. But but let's be real

1952
01:42:28,280 --> 01:42:30,839
Speaker 1: here in the moment, the crowdsurfing had to be pretty awesome.

1953
01:42:31,840 --> 01:42:33,519
Speaker 3: Oh it was great. I mean when I met with

1954
01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:37,240
Speaker 3: Chiller on Sunday, he uh, he called me into his

1955
01:42:37,280 --> 01:42:39,519
Speaker 3: off and he's like, hey, how did a hundred guys

1956
01:42:39,520 --> 01:42:41,920
Speaker 3: get off the field with their helmet and you're the

1957
01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:44,880
Speaker 3: only idiot that that didn't? I go, Coach, I got

1958
01:42:44,920 --> 01:42:47,320
Speaker 3: you know, it was mobbed. You know, the kids were

1959
01:42:47,360 --> 01:42:49,720
Speaker 3: all over And he pulls up a picture of one

1960
01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:52,800
Speaker 3: of the newspapers and it shows me crowdsurfing holding to

1961
01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:56,320
Speaker 3: his new flags like in my hands, and he's like, really,

1962
01:42:57,080 --> 01:42:58,920
Speaker 3: I go, all right, you got me? Like, you know,

1963
01:42:59,280 --> 01:43:02,280
Speaker 3: my bad. So I couldn't lie my way out of

1964
01:43:02,320 --> 01:43:03,840
Speaker 3: that one, but I definitely tried.

1965
01:43:04,200 --> 01:43:07,040
Speaker 1: Hey, what's your relationship now with you know, just your

1966
01:43:07,040 --> 01:43:09,160
Speaker 1: teammates in general, And you know, I think you were

1967
01:43:09,360 --> 01:43:12,439
Speaker 1: you're obviously kind of a fun, loving teammate. But you

1968
01:43:12,439 --> 01:43:14,800
Speaker 1: know Drew Brees, for example, who you caught a lot

1969
01:43:14,840 --> 01:43:17,080
Speaker 1: of balls from. And you guys had a great on

1970
01:43:17,200 --> 01:43:20,680
Speaker 1: field relationship. What's the relationship now? And who are you

1971
01:43:20,680 --> 01:43:22,080
Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing this weekend?

1972
01:43:23,280 --> 01:43:24,840
Speaker 3: You know, I'm looking forward to seeing all the guys.

1973
01:43:25,200 --> 01:43:28,080
Speaker 3: You know, I still talk with. You know that recruiting class,

1974
01:43:28,120 --> 01:43:31,799
Speaker 3: we were Tiller's first class, myself, true, Ben Smith, Jason

1975
01:43:32,479 --> 01:43:36,160
Speaker 3: or Zelle Vinny Matriown. You know, we had a real

1976
01:43:36,520 --> 01:43:40,320
Speaker 3: good group of guys. And I think what really like

1977
01:43:40,640 --> 01:43:43,160
Speaker 3: Gelda with us was the fact that we were ranked

1978
01:43:43,200 --> 01:43:45,880
Speaker 3: the tenth out of the eleven Big Ten recruiting classes.

1979
01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:49,000
Speaker 3: And I think that helped. That motivated us to say,

1980
01:43:49,040 --> 01:43:51,240
Speaker 3: you know what, Tom Letting, you don't know anything. You know,

1981
01:43:51,360 --> 01:43:53,439
Speaker 3: all these other people I don't even know back then

1982
01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:56,000
Speaker 3: move they were. But we're going to prove you wrong.

1983
01:43:56,200 --> 01:43:58,920
Speaker 3: We're going to come in and play this basketball and

1984
01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:02,639
Speaker 3: grass and it is. It was a fun group. We're

1985
01:44:02,640 --> 01:44:04,760
Speaker 3: all still really tight, which is good. I mean, you know,

1986
01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:06,559
Speaker 3: we're all busy now with our own kids and work

1987
01:44:06,600 --> 01:44:09,880
Speaker 3: and everything else, but when we have an opportunity to

1988
01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:12,320
Speaker 3: get together, it's sure is nice to see everyone.

1989
01:44:12,560 --> 01:44:15,240
Speaker 1: Tim Stratton, our guest, the tight end who was the

1990
01:44:15,280 --> 01:44:18,880
Speaker 1: inaugural winner of the John mckew Award, given out to

1991
01:44:18,920 --> 01:44:22,320
Speaker 1: college football's best tight end. The reigning owner of that

1992
01:44:22,360 --> 01:44:25,000
Speaker 1: title is Tyler Warren, who is with the Colts and

1993
01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:27,439
Speaker 1: will be with them Sunday against the Broncos at Lucas

1994
01:44:27,439 --> 01:44:30,439
Speaker 1: Oil Stadium. He won the award last year at Penn State.

1995
01:44:31,479 --> 01:44:34,639
Speaker 1: How much Tim, do you follow still like college football

1996
01:44:34,760 --> 01:44:37,360
Speaker 1: and for that matter, of the NFL today, and if so,

1997
01:44:37,960 --> 01:44:39,439
Speaker 1: your impressions of Tyler Warren.

1998
01:44:40,920 --> 01:44:43,320
Speaker 3: I think he's a hell of the player. I actually

1999
01:44:43,360 --> 01:44:46,360
Speaker 3: am on the voting committee for the mckew Award, so

2000
01:44:47,720 --> 01:44:50,000
Speaker 3: he was definitely my top tack. Kim and Colston Love

2001
01:44:50,120 --> 01:44:54,080
Speaker 3: and Loveland the Bears at tight end, but I really

2002
01:44:54,160 --> 01:44:59,400
Speaker 3: enjoyed watching Tyler play. Ironically, my fifth year at Purdue,

2003
01:44:59,439 --> 01:45:02,360
Speaker 3: when I stayed point year, I was the third street quarterback,

2004
01:45:02,479 --> 01:45:05,400
Speaker 3: So if the two freshmen went down, Brandon Hanson Kyle Orton,

2005
01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:08,680
Speaker 3: I was the emergency quarterback. So it was because I

2006
01:45:08,720 --> 01:45:10,400
Speaker 3: knew the offense and I could throw the wall. So

2007
01:45:10,640 --> 01:45:14,880
Speaker 3: it was kind of a irony that you know, our

2008
01:45:14,960 --> 01:45:17,600
Speaker 3: latest winner could play quarterback running back. I mean, he

2009
01:45:17,600 --> 01:45:19,080
Speaker 3: could do it all. He's just a hell of an

2010
01:45:19,120 --> 01:45:22,439
Speaker 3: athlete and I'm happy the Colts took him and he's

2011
01:45:22,600 --> 01:45:24,920
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna have a great at all career.

2012
01:45:25,160 --> 01:45:26,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a heck of a player. And you're right,

2013
01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:29,320
Speaker 1: you can kind of you love any guy. I mean

2014
01:45:29,800 --> 01:45:31,800
Speaker 1: Tim Stratton. He is an old school dude. I mean

2015
01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:35,439
Speaker 1: Shane Steichen said, just an old school baller. And you

2016
01:45:35,560 --> 01:45:37,720
Speaker 1: got to kind of see a little of yourself in that,

2017
01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:40,320
Speaker 1: like you just talked about, right, just the ability to

2018
01:45:40,360 --> 01:45:45,200
Speaker 1: be versatile like that. It really does feel throwback, doesn't it.

2019
01:45:45,200 --> 01:45:48,640
Speaker 3: It does, it does, and it's it's great, It's it

2020
01:45:48,760 --> 01:45:51,639
Speaker 3: was really fun to watch him play. He was definitely

2021
01:45:51,640 --> 01:45:54,000
Speaker 3: a different difference maker for Penn State and I think

2022
01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:56,200
Speaker 3: he's going to do wonderful things for the Colts.

2023
01:45:56,400 --> 01:46:00,240
Speaker 1: Okay, lastly, for this game Purdue and USC, do you

2024
01:46:00,320 --> 01:46:02,200
Speaker 1: often watch I know you said, you know you've got

2025
01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:04,240
Speaker 1: your daughter playing at Youngsound State. You got kids, and

2026
01:46:04,240 --> 01:46:06,719
Speaker 1: you got a lot going on. But for Purdue football,

2027
01:46:06,800 --> 01:46:08,960
Speaker 1: just your overall impressions or what you would like to

2028
01:46:09,000 --> 01:46:11,439
Speaker 1: see other than the obvious, which is a win against

2029
01:46:11,720 --> 01:46:16,479
Speaker 1: USC and what is now a new era for Perdue football.

2030
01:46:16,520 --> 01:46:18,760
Speaker 3: It's crazy to me that it is considered a Big

2031
01:46:18,800 --> 01:46:22,280
Speaker 3: ten game, to be honest, I know, because we played

2032
01:46:22,280 --> 01:46:24,599
Speaker 3: them in ninety eight and the kickoff Classic out at

2033
01:46:24,640 --> 01:46:28,360
Speaker 3: the Coliseum and so it it's just so weird for it.

2034
01:46:28,479 --> 01:46:31,920
Speaker 3: But nonetheless, I think it's going to be I hope

2035
01:46:31,960 --> 01:46:33,640
Speaker 3: it's going to be a great game. I'm hoping our

2036
01:46:33,960 --> 01:46:36,200
Speaker 3: I know, offensively, their first two games, I think they're

2037
01:46:36,240 --> 01:46:38,680
Speaker 3: one of the highest averaging offenses in the country right now,

2038
01:46:38,760 --> 01:46:42,679
Speaker 3: scoring wise, I'm really hoping to get the Due defense

2039
01:46:43,320 --> 01:46:46,479
Speaker 3: consightful their offense, and I'd like to see Ryan Brown

2040
01:46:46,560 --> 01:46:47,960
Speaker 3: throw the ball more. I'd like to see the tight

2041
01:46:48,040 --> 01:46:51,479
Speaker 3: ends be more involved in the offense. And then Devin

2042
01:46:51,520 --> 01:46:54,479
Speaker 3: Moxraby I think is you know, he could be a

2043
01:46:54,479 --> 01:46:59,120
Speaker 3: difference maker tomorrow depending on how our offensive line performs.

2044
01:46:59,479 --> 01:47:02,320
Speaker 1: By the way, since you guys played in the Rose Bowl,

2045
01:47:02,360 --> 01:47:04,320
Speaker 1: I mean you mentioned playing at USC then obviously you

2046
01:47:04,320 --> 01:47:06,439
Speaker 1: play Washington in the Rose Bowl. That's what you guys

2047
01:47:06,439 --> 01:47:09,439
Speaker 1: are going to be honored for coming up tomorrow. I

2048
01:47:09,560 --> 01:47:11,559
Speaker 1: just went to the Rose Bowl, not for a football game.

2049
01:47:11,600 --> 01:47:14,160
Speaker 1: I went to a concert there last weekend and I

2050
01:47:14,200 --> 01:47:16,280
Speaker 1: had never been in the Rose Bowl. I mean, obviously,

2051
01:47:16,280 --> 01:47:18,800
Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl is so iconic, and I mentioned this

2052
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:21,439
Speaker 1: and I want you, Tim Stratton to basically to have

2053
01:47:21,560 --> 01:47:27,880
Speaker 1: my back here. Fabulous venue, historic, beautiful setting, beautiful sunset,

2054
01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:31,200
Speaker 1: beautiful mountains in the background. Terrible And I know you

2055
01:47:31,240 --> 01:47:32,760
Speaker 1: were on the field and you were not up in

2056
01:47:32,800 --> 01:47:34,840
Speaker 1: the stands, but maybe like friends or family told you this.

2057
01:47:35,760 --> 01:47:39,120
Speaker 1: Presumably everybody when that stadium was built was five foot

2058
01:47:39,160 --> 01:47:41,479
Speaker 1: six and one hundred and ten pounds. That is the

2059
01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:43,200
Speaker 1: most cramped dump ever.

2060
01:47:44,560 --> 01:47:47,680
Speaker 3: I believe it. Yeah, my family did say that. I mean,

2061
01:47:47,840 --> 01:47:51,120
Speaker 3: I'm the biggest in my family, but my brothers that

2062
01:47:51,160 --> 01:47:53,360
Speaker 3: were there, my sister, my uncles, you know, they're all

2063
01:47:53,400 --> 01:47:56,599
Speaker 3: about six feet tall. So but they did say that.

2064
01:47:57,120 --> 01:48:01,680
Speaker 3: I thought the stadium was cool. Obviously the field perspective,

2065
01:48:02,040 --> 01:48:03,800
Speaker 3: I wish our outcome could have been a lot different

2066
01:48:03,800 --> 01:48:05,320
Speaker 3: than we would have thrown the ball a hell of

2067
01:48:05,360 --> 01:48:08,200
Speaker 3: a lot more than we did. But it was really

2068
01:48:08,400 --> 01:48:10,880
Speaker 3: And our Purdue fans traveled so well. I mean they

2069
01:48:11,280 --> 01:48:13,920
Speaker 3: are I mean I still get people that I run

2070
01:48:13,920 --> 01:48:15,720
Speaker 3: into from work that are like we were at the

2071
01:48:15,800 --> 01:48:18,320
Speaker 3: Rose Bowl. I mean, it was there was huge rallies there,

2072
01:48:18,400 --> 01:48:21,080
Speaker 3: there were so many fans out there. And what's funny

2073
01:48:21,080 --> 01:48:23,320
Speaker 3: is a lot of people in like the LA area

2074
01:48:23,560 --> 01:48:27,960
Speaker 3: where Pasadena area thought Purdue was a an Ivy League school.

2075
01:48:28,479 --> 01:48:30,200
Speaker 3: They literally we'd go the guys would go out and

2076
01:48:30,200 --> 01:48:31,759
Speaker 3: you know, we have a drink or something, and the

2077
01:48:31,760 --> 01:48:33,880
Speaker 3: bartenders would be like, are you an Ivy League school?

2078
01:48:33,880 --> 01:48:35,600
Speaker 3: Like what are you doing out here? We're like, no,

2079
01:48:35,640 --> 01:48:38,720
Speaker 3: we're big ten. But obviously nobody from Purdue has been

2080
01:48:38,720 --> 01:48:41,479
Speaker 3: out here since nineteen sixty seven. So but it was

2081
01:48:42,080 --> 01:48:45,560
Speaker 3: a great experience. I really enjoyed it. I wish I

2082
01:48:45,600 --> 01:48:47,679
Speaker 3: wouldn't snapped the ball over the punter's head the one time,

2083
01:48:47,760 --> 01:48:49,599
Speaker 3: but you know it was fun.

2084
01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:56,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, fair enough, Tim Stratton, listen, soak it all in.

2085
01:48:56,400 --> 01:48:58,679
Speaker 1: Have fun this weekend. You know, if they beat USC,

2086
01:48:58,800 --> 01:49:01,040
Speaker 1: feel free to climb the goalpost, CrowdSurf, do whatever you

2087
01:49:01,080 --> 01:49:01,439
Speaker 1: want to do.

2088
01:49:01,520 --> 01:49:04,800
Speaker 3: Right Yeah, this time, though, I might get arrested, So

2089
01:49:04,840 --> 01:49:06,720
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's I don't know if that's

2090
01:49:06,720 --> 01:49:09,920
Speaker 3: worth it, but you know, maybe maybe produe Caps will

2091
01:49:09,960 --> 01:49:10,479
Speaker 3: be nice.

2092
01:49:10,680 --> 01:49:12,439
Speaker 1: By the way, do you know what your Purdue was founded?

2093
01:49:15,439 --> 01:49:16,559
Speaker 3: Was it eighteen sixty eight?

2094
01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:20,920
Speaker 1: I think I'm looking this up. I'm looking this up ooh.

2095
01:49:20,880 --> 01:49:22,599
Speaker 3: Well, eighteen eighty nine.

2096
01:49:22,640 --> 01:49:26,200
Speaker 1: I can't remember eighteen sixty nine. Basically, I'm given to

2097
01:49:26,240 --> 01:49:28,760
Speaker 1: you that's good May sixth to eighteen sixty nine, right,

2098
01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:30,640
Speaker 1: And I'm sure you probably looked that up after. Of

2099
01:49:30,640 --> 01:49:32,439
Speaker 1: course you couldn't google it when Joe Tiller came in.

2100
01:49:32,479 --> 01:49:33,720
Speaker 1: But nonetheless, you know what I mean.

2101
01:49:34,439 --> 01:49:37,719
Speaker 3: Oh, no, gosh, no, you know that's but coach loved

2102
01:49:37,720 --> 01:49:40,360
Speaker 3: to like I said, if if you said you wanted

2103
01:49:40,400 --> 01:49:41,720
Speaker 3: to do something or you were going to do something,

2104
01:49:41,720 --> 01:49:45,200
Speaker 3: you'd call you out on it. So which I appreciated

2105
01:49:45,320 --> 01:49:47,559
Speaker 3: everything he said, even though at the time I didn't

2106
01:49:48,120 --> 01:49:49,960
Speaker 3: as an adult and as a parent, as a coach,

2107
01:49:50,200 --> 01:49:53,719
Speaker 3: I appreciate everything that all the coaches you know, taught us,

2108
01:49:53,800 --> 01:49:57,519
Speaker 3: and so I try to use that when you know,

2109
01:49:57,640 --> 01:50:00,400
Speaker 3: with parenting, with coaching, with you know, every day life.

2110
01:50:00,439 --> 01:50:02,799
Speaker 1: What do you do now? By the way, you mentioned coaching,

2111
01:50:02,800 --> 01:50:04,360
Speaker 1: what is life like for Tim Stratton?

2112
01:50:04,400 --> 01:50:07,439
Speaker 3: Now you know, I used to coach high school football.

2113
01:50:07,439 --> 01:50:09,479
Speaker 3: I coached Division III football for a couple of years,

2114
01:50:09,479 --> 01:50:11,519
Speaker 3: then I coached high school. Then I went to grade

2115
01:50:11,560 --> 01:50:14,479
Speaker 3: school when my nephews were playing. Then I went back

2116
01:50:14,479 --> 01:50:17,120
Speaker 3: to high school, and then now I've stopped because my

2117
01:50:17,200 --> 01:50:19,280
Speaker 3: kids got busy, so you know, I'd like to actually

2118
01:50:19,320 --> 01:50:23,519
Speaker 3: go watch my own kids. And then I've also I'm

2119
01:50:23,560 --> 01:50:26,640
Speaker 3: a director of business development for an electrical contracting firm

2120
01:50:27,360 --> 01:50:30,880
Speaker 3: up here in Chicago, and so I mean I used

2121
01:50:30,880 --> 01:50:33,200
Speaker 3: to have a little more freedom with coaching. But now

2122
01:50:33,240 --> 01:50:36,400
Speaker 3: that I decided to step away and actually watch my

2123
01:50:36,439 --> 01:50:39,479
Speaker 3: own kids, I miss it. But I don't miss it

2124
01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:41,880
Speaker 3: because I think the generations are a little different now,

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01:50:42,640 --> 01:50:46,000
Speaker 3: meaning my my personality and coaching personality is more like

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01:50:46,120 --> 01:50:48,439
Speaker 3: how I was coached, right, how these.

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01:50:48,280 --> 01:50:51,519
Speaker 1: Kids are now totally different era. Yes, that is correct.

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01:50:51,680 --> 01:50:53,880
Speaker 3: Oh my god. You know I'm not afraid to call

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01:50:53,920 --> 01:50:56,800
Speaker 3: a kid out in front of people, and a lot

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01:50:56,800 --> 01:50:59,559
Speaker 3: of these kids, you know, they can't take that anymore.

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01:51:00,120 --> 01:51:01,559
Speaker 3: You know, the kids that want to do well and

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01:51:01,600 --> 01:51:03,519
Speaker 3: want to excel, they accept it and know it not

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01:51:03,720 --> 01:51:06,519
Speaker 3: meant from any other purpose of you know, trying to

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01:51:06,600 --> 01:51:09,400
Speaker 3: hurt them. It's trying to help them improve. But you know,

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01:51:09,479 --> 01:51:10,880
Speaker 3: you got a lot of these parents that are living

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01:51:10,920 --> 01:51:13,479
Speaker 3: vicariously through their kids, so you know they want to

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01:51:13,479 --> 01:51:14,320
Speaker 3: be involved in everything.

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01:51:14,400 --> 01:51:17,680
Speaker 1: So I trust me, I totally get it. Totally get it.

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01:51:18,400 --> 01:51:18,599
Speaker 3: Tim.

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01:51:18,640 --> 01:51:21,040
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Man, boiler up and enjoy it this weekend.

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01:51:21,080 --> 01:51:24,040
Speaker 3: All right, thanks so much. I really appreciate you having

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01:51:24,080 --> 01:51:24,559
Speaker 3: me on all.

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01:51:24,479 --> 01:51:26,759
Speaker 1: Right, Tim Stratt and joining us on the program. Awesome.

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01:51:26,800 --> 01:51:29,400
Speaker 1: Speaking of Perdue, by the way, it is a Franciscan health,

2145
01:51:29,400 --> 01:51:32,320
Speaker 1: feel good, good for the heart Friday, and something that

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01:51:32,400 --> 01:51:35,920
Speaker 1: relates to your Indianapolis Colts, something that relates to something

2147
01:51:35,920 --> 01:51:38,479
Speaker 1: you're going to see all season long, something that relates

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01:51:38,520 --> 01:51:41,800
Speaker 1: to paying tribute to the owner of the Colts and

2149
01:51:41,920 --> 01:51:46,240
Speaker 1: Jim or say and something he was passionate about. And

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01:51:46,280 --> 01:51:48,840
Speaker 1: it involves Purdue as well. We'll do all of it next.

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01:51:49,160 --> 01:51:53,240
Speaker 1: What it is, of course a Friday bottom of the

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01:51:53,240 --> 01:51:55,599
Speaker 1: two o'clock hour. That means it is a Franciscan Health,

2153
01:51:55,640 --> 01:51:59,040
Speaker 1: feel good, good for the heart Friday. Reminder that I

2154
01:51:59,120 --> 01:52:02,360
Speaker 1: will get to about the importance of a forty nine

2155
01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:06,080
Speaker 1: dollars non invasive heart scan. I mentioned yesterday I had

2156
01:52:06,080 --> 01:52:10,640
Speaker 1: a cardiac stress test, so heart health very important to me.

2157
01:52:11,000 --> 01:52:16,400
Speaker 1: And along with getting everybody that information and talking about

2158
01:52:16,400 --> 01:52:19,920
Speaker 1: the importance and the appreciation for Franciscan in partnering with

2159
01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:23,360
Speaker 1: that message, we also find stories that simply make you

2160
01:52:23,400 --> 01:52:27,559
Speaker 1: feel good. And this one is one that obviously has

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01:52:27,600 --> 01:52:30,560
Speaker 1: a difficult beginning to the story in the loss of

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01:52:30,640 --> 01:52:35,640
Speaker 1: jim Irsay. And Jim Irsay, we know philanthropically what he

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01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:38,040
Speaker 1: meant to the city of Indianapolis, what he meant to

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01:52:38,080 --> 01:52:42,000
Speaker 1: the football community, and in addition to that, you know,

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01:52:42,040 --> 01:52:45,600
Speaker 1: he was a guy that I think was kind of

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01:52:45,640 --> 01:52:48,000
Speaker 1: a stranger to no one, not because he was famous,

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01:52:48,000 --> 01:52:50,560
Speaker 1: but because I think that even though as a billionaire

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01:52:50,720 --> 01:52:54,680
Speaker 1: NFL owner, he put himself out there in areas that

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01:52:54,720 --> 01:52:58,840
Speaker 1: were relatable to the casual fan, the diehard fan, or

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01:52:58,880 --> 01:53:02,640
Speaker 1: even the non football fan because of his interests outside

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01:53:03,240 --> 01:53:06,400
Speaker 1: of football, and one of those interests, of course, was

2172
01:53:06,479 --> 01:53:09,839
Speaker 1: music and his vast guitar collection. He also has drums

2173
01:53:09,840 --> 01:53:13,519
Speaker 1: that belong to the Beatles. But there was an effort

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01:53:13,520 --> 01:53:16,799
Speaker 1: that was put into place in terms of this season

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01:53:16,880 --> 01:53:20,800
Speaker 1: being dedicated to Jim Irsay in the win for Jim

2176
01:53:20,960 --> 01:53:25,160
Speaker 1: if you will. Over the course of the season, messaging

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01:53:25,240 --> 01:53:27,439
Speaker 1: taking place for the Colts, and Shane Steichen had an

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01:53:27,479 --> 01:53:32,679
Speaker 1: idea about how to not only pay tribute to jim Irsay,

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01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:36,280
Speaker 1: but also to allow his team to have something to

2180
01:53:36,360 --> 01:53:42,240
Speaker 1: aspire for towards in that delivery of message and joining

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01:53:42,240 --> 01:53:44,040
Speaker 1: me now on the program, a couple of guys that

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01:53:44,120 --> 01:53:47,040
Speaker 1: were a part of that. And it is odd to

2183
01:53:47,160 --> 01:53:50,840
Speaker 1: think that the Indianapolis Colts and Shane Steichen, a guy

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01:53:50,880 --> 01:53:54,240
Speaker 1: who had been a quarterback at UNLV, would have something

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01:53:54,280 --> 01:53:55,960
Speaker 1: that they would do each and every week to pay

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01:53:56,040 --> 01:53:58,439
Speaker 1: tribute to their owner, and they would do so by

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01:53:58,479 --> 01:54:00,679
Speaker 1: way of the work of a couple of guys at

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Speaker 1: Purdue University. But joining me now in the program, one

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01:54:03,920 --> 01:54:07,160
Speaker 1: of them is a professor at Purdue. Mark French joins me,

2190
01:54:07,320 --> 01:54:10,240
Speaker 1: and he is joined by an alum in Noah Scott,

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01:54:10,720 --> 01:54:15,160
Speaker 1: and I will bring first Mark into the program. Mark,

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01:54:15,200 --> 01:54:17,280
Speaker 1: you're a guy, if I'm not mistaken, that basically just

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01:54:17,320 --> 01:54:20,240
Speaker 1: sits around and puts together wooden strings and makes guitars,

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01:54:20,320 --> 01:54:21,200
Speaker 1: right Is it.

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01:54:21,160 --> 01:54:24,080
Speaker 7: That say I do some other stuff too? But yeah,

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01:54:24,080 --> 01:54:25,080
Speaker 7: that's what happened this case.

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01:54:25,160 --> 01:54:28,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So let's begin with this Mark. You are

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01:54:28,439 --> 01:54:32,560
Speaker 1: up at Purdue, and essentially it is the guitar Lab

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01:54:32,600 --> 01:54:37,160
Speaker 1: at Purdue. And I'm sure that the simplicity of music

2200
01:54:37,200 --> 01:54:40,800
Speaker 1: that comes from a guitar probably does have there's a

2201
01:54:40,840 --> 01:54:43,520
Speaker 1: lot more to it than that. There's an engineering aspect

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01:54:43,680 --> 01:54:46,120
Speaker 1: of it. But take me through first off, just the

2203
01:54:46,160 --> 01:54:48,560
Speaker 1: Guitar Lab, and then how it came to be that

2204
01:54:48,600 --> 01:54:51,080
Speaker 1: you would be connected with the Indianapolis Colts.

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01:54:51,680 --> 01:54:54,000
Speaker 7: Well, the Star Lab has been around for gosh almost

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01:54:54,040 --> 01:54:57,200
Speaker 7: twenty years now, and it's a place where we teach

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01:54:57,480 --> 01:55:02,120
Speaker 7: students product design and manufacturing using guitars. And it's had

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01:55:02,160 --> 01:55:04,080
Speaker 7: a couple of different homes. Right now it's in a

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01:55:04,120 --> 01:55:07,120
Speaker 7: brand new building and it looks great. It's a really nice,

2210
01:55:07,240 --> 01:55:11,080
Speaker 7: nice place. The way I came to be involved in

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01:55:11,120 --> 01:55:14,560
Speaker 7: this project is that Noah had some contacts with the

2212
01:55:14,640 --> 01:55:17,560
Speaker 7: Colts and we've actually gone down to see the Airstay

2213
01:55:17,600 --> 01:55:20,600
Speaker 7: collects and my students and I courtesy of Noah. That

2214
01:55:20,760 --> 01:55:24,000
Speaker 7: was last year, and so when the Colts decided they

2215
01:55:24,000 --> 01:55:27,520
Speaker 7: wanted this guitar, they contacted Noah and then Noah talked

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01:55:27,600 --> 01:55:28,120
Speaker 7: me into it.

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01:55:28,160 --> 01:55:32,960
Speaker 1: Basically, Okay, so Noah, let's let's grab Noah here on

2218
01:55:33,000 --> 01:55:35,760
Speaker 1: the line. Noah Scott is an alum at Purdue University.

2219
01:55:35,840 --> 01:55:40,200
Speaker 1: Mark just mentioned Noah your connection to the Colts and

2220
01:55:41,120 --> 01:55:44,280
Speaker 1: where this came about. That Basically, what we have is

2221
01:55:44,280 --> 01:55:46,640
Speaker 1: that each and every game, at the end of the game,

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01:55:47,320 --> 01:55:51,440
Speaker 1: Shane Stiken will present the win for Jim Guitar to

2223
01:55:51,720 --> 01:55:54,600
Speaker 1: a player of the game, who will then present that

2224
01:55:54,720 --> 01:55:57,760
Speaker 1: guitar for fans to see, like at the next home game,

2225
01:55:57,800 --> 01:56:00,960
Speaker 1: and place it where it needs to be. And each

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01:56:01,080 --> 01:56:06,480
Speaker 1: player can, of course aspire to being awarded this symbol,

2227
01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:09,160
Speaker 1: if you will. For Jim Mersay, how Noah Scott, for

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01:56:09,280 --> 01:56:12,800
Speaker 1: you did this come about from the very who was

2229
01:56:12,840 --> 01:56:15,400
Speaker 1: the first person to come up with this idea? And

2230
01:56:15,440 --> 01:56:17,440
Speaker 1: then how did you say? Let me get ahold of

2231
01:56:17,480 --> 01:56:18,400
Speaker 1: Mark and let's get going.

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01:56:19,720 --> 01:56:20,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:56:20,160 --> 01:56:24,240
Speaker 9: So this was a rainy day in Raleigh, North Carolina,

2234
01:56:24,320 --> 01:56:27,200
Speaker 9: at the Raleigh Durham Airport. My flight just got canceled

2235
01:56:27,240 --> 01:56:29,040
Speaker 9: and I see a call come in from a gentleman

2236
01:56:29,120 --> 01:56:31,840
Speaker 9: named Larry Hall, who the head of the Jim Mersey

2237
01:56:31,840 --> 01:56:37,440
Speaker 9: collection up until just this summer and back when myself

2238
01:56:37,480 --> 01:56:39,920
Speaker 9: and Mark and the students and the lab first visited.

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01:56:40,360 --> 01:56:43,360
Speaker 9: That all came about because I called Larry at the

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Speaker 9: colts and he said, Hey, why don't you go ahead

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01:56:45,600 --> 01:56:47,000
Speaker 9: and bring the students down. I'll give you guys a

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01:56:47,040 --> 01:56:50,080
Speaker 9: background tour. And that was such a great experience, and

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01:56:50,440 --> 01:56:52,120
Speaker 9: he was so jazzed about the lab that when he

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01:56:52,160 --> 01:56:54,560
Speaker 9: gave me a call at the airport, he said, Noah,

2245
01:56:55,160 --> 01:56:57,760
Speaker 9: this idea came up. We thought, you guys, first of mind,

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01:56:58,680 --> 01:57:01,919
Speaker 9: what do you think, said Larry, my flight just got canceled.

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01:57:02,640 --> 01:57:05,000
Speaker 9: Let me give Mark call and we'll try to balance

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01:57:05,000 --> 01:57:07,400
Speaker 9: this all together. And gave Mark a call, and in

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01:57:07,480 --> 01:57:10,960
Speaker 9: between rescheduling my flight, Mark said, that's great. I don't

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01:57:10,960 --> 01:57:12,960
Speaker 9: know who Peyton Manning is, but we'll do it.

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01:57:13,440 --> 01:57:14,520
Speaker 6: So that's cool to be.

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01:57:15,560 --> 01:57:18,960
Speaker 1: Okay. Well, so here's the thing. You know, guitars, that's

2253
01:57:18,960 --> 01:57:22,720
Speaker 1: the important thing right now. So the question is this, Noah,

2254
01:57:22,800 --> 01:57:25,960
Speaker 1: in terms of the specifications of this guitar the win

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01:57:26,120 --> 01:57:29,560
Speaker 1: for Jim guitar. Did the Colts give you carte blanche

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01:57:29,640 --> 01:57:33,280
Speaker 1: of Hey, you've seen the ersa guitar collection, you just

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01:57:33,360 --> 01:57:36,480
Speaker 1: come up with what you think he would like? Or

2258
01:57:36,600 --> 01:57:39,160
Speaker 1: did they did they say we wanted to look exactly

2259
01:57:39,240 --> 01:57:43,600
Speaker 1: like this, et cetera. What goes into the creativity, if

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01:57:43,640 --> 01:57:45,680
Speaker 1: you will, and then the finished product.

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01:57:46,720 --> 01:57:51,080
Speaker 9: Sure, so Coach Steichen had kind of a good idea

2262
01:57:51,120 --> 01:57:53,440
Speaker 9: of what he would like the guitar to be sent

2263
01:57:53,560 --> 01:57:56,880
Speaker 9: that over, and as with a lot of things in life,

2264
01:57:56,880 --> 01:57:59,320
Speaker 9: there had to be some changes and modifications made to

2265
01:57:59,320 --> 01:58:01,600
Speaker 9: make sure that it would kind of get to the

2266
01:58:01,600 --> 01:58:04,120
Speaker 9: spirit of what he was looking for and so we

2267
01:58:04,200 --> 01:58:07,280
Speaker 9: worked back and forth with him, and the guitar design

2268
01:58:07,320 --> 01:58:09,520
Speaker 9: at the end of the day was a combination of

2269
01:58:09,960 --> 01:58:12,680
Speaker 9: his idea and Mark and I ability to make it

2270
01:58:12,720 --> 01:58:13,520
Speaker 9: happen in real life.

2271
01:58:13,640 --> 01:58:15,720
Speaker 1: Okay, let me talk to Mark real quick, Mark French

2272
01:58:15,720 --> 01:58:18,280
Speaker 1: again with Purdue University as well in the Guitar Lab,

2273
01:58:18,440 --> 01:58:20,320
Speaker 1: and then we'll get back to Noah. But Mark, I

2274
01:58:20,320 --> 01:58:23,400
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you this when and it is a

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01:58:23,520 --> 01:58:26,400
Speaker 1: very cool guitar. It is a blue guitar. It is

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01:58:26,560 --> 01:58:29,360
Speaker 1: essentially like an electric guitar with the blue horse shoe

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01:58:29,360 --> 01:58:31,280
Speaker 1: down on the bottom left. It says win for Jim

2278
01:58:31,440 --> 01:58:35,800
Speaker 1: on it. When you had seen Mark the Jimmersay guitar

2279
01:58:35,960 --> 01:58:40,960
Speaker 1: collection from first off, just from the standpoint of world

2280
01:58:41,000 --> 01:58:44,920
Speaker 1: collections of music, I would assume that that is one

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01:58:45,000 --> 01:58:48,040
Speaker 1: that is as high on the list as any in

2282
01:58:48,120 --> 01:58:51,680
Speaker 1: terms of the unique individual collection. But also was there

2283
01:58:51,800 --> 01:58:54,840
Speaker 1: inspiration perhaps from some of the guitars you had seen

2284
01:58:54,880 --> 01:58:58,080
Speaker 1: that Jimmersay owned in kind of the vision as well

2285
01:58:58,120 --> 01:58:59,240
Speaker 1: of what you wanted this one to be.

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01:59:00,600 --> 01:59:04,480
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, the guitars we saw, it's not a there

2287
01:59:04,520 --> 01:59:06,400
Speaker 7: There aren't a whole lot of guitars in the collection,

2288
01:59:06,480 --> 01:59:09,240
Speaker 7: but they are very unique. They're they're important instruments, and

2289
01:59:09,280 --> 01:59:12,680
Speaker 7: that's that's what makes the collection so valuable and so unique.

2290
01:59:13,800 --> 01:59:17,560
Speaker 7: The the guitar they wanted was actually a fairly basic design.

2291
01:59:17,640 --> 01:59:21,120
Speaker 7: It would be similar to the kinds of of guitars

2292
01:59:21,160 --> 01:59:24,120
Speaker 7: that were there in the early days of rock and roll.

2293
01:59:24,640 --> 01:59:28,760
Speaker 7: So the the the older instruments in his collection would

2294
01:59:28,800 --> 01:59:31,360
Speaker 7: be the ones we were kind of drawing on. That

2295
01:59:31,400 --> 01:59:31,920
Speaker 7: makes sense.

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01:59:32,000 --> 01:59:35,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Now the question then, Mark hold On. Did he

2297
01:59:36,000 --> 01:59:37,720
Speaker 1: say Mark that you didn't know who Peyton Manning was?

2298
01:59:37,760 --> 01:59:40,080
Speaker 1: That then that that's that's he's riven you there, right?

2299
01:59:41,480 --> 01:59:44,240
Speaker 7: No, No, I'm afraid he's not. I really didn't know

2300
01:59:44,240 --> 01:59:46,040
Speaker 7: who Peyton Manning was. I'm sorry.

2301
01:59:46,680 --> 01:59:50,800
Speaker 1: I love let me tell you something, Mark, that's a

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01:59:50,800 --> 01:59:53,520
Speaker 1: guy dedicated to his craft. That means that you literally

2303
01:59:53,640 --> 01:59:55,680
Speaker 1: are stuck in the lab. I love it, right, I

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01:59:55,760 --> 01:59:59,080
Speaker 1: mean that that's that is That's what I take from that. Noah,

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01:59:59,080 --> 02:00:00,760
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you in other thing about this.

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02:00:00,920 --> 02:00:03,480
Speaker 1: Noah Scott, who is a Purdue alum and was part

2307
02:00:03,480 --> 02:00:05,720
Speaker 1: of this project, the win for Jim Guitar that was

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02:00:05,720 --> 02:00:10,040
Speaker 1: put together at the Purdue University Guitar Lab. Noah, when

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02:00:10,080 --> 02:00:14,080
Speaker 1: you go into the building of a guitar and the

2310
02:00:14,120 --> 02:00:16,880
Speaker 1: creation and the engineering of a guitar and all of

2311
02:00:16,880 --> 02:00:20,640
Speaker 1: that that goes into it. I would imagine that you know,

2312
02:00:20,680 --> 02:00:23,320
Speaker 1: you're an artist, and you're an artist that's putting together

2313
02:00:23,400 --> 02:00:25,920
Speaker 1: a piece of art, and art is to be displayed

2314
02:00:25,920 --> 02:00:29,720
Speaker 1: by more than just the artists themselves. But what amount

2315
02:00:29,760 --> 02:00:32,240
Speaker 1: of pride is there, not just for Purdue, but for

2316
02:00:32,320 --> 02:00:35,680
Speaker 1: you guys in general, to be able to see that

2317
02:00:35,800 --> 02:00:38,760
Speaker 1: you were able to contribute to somebody that was able

2318
02:00:38,800 --> 02:00:42,920
Speaker 1: to bring together the symbolism of the passion as well

2319
02:00:42,920 --> 02:00:43,560
Speaker 1: as their sport.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean candidly, it means the world because to

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02:00:49,920 --> 02:00:53,160
Speaker 9: a certain extent, you know, a lot of people will

2322
02:00:53,160 --> 02:00:56,040
Speaker 9: see this guitar, hear the name of the Perdue Guitar Lab,

2323
02:00:56,560 --> 02:00:58,520
Speaker 9: and it was on Marke and ized shoulders. To make

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02:00:58,560 --> 02:01:02,680
Speaker 9: sure that that impression not only honor Jim Mersay, but

2325
02:01:02,760 --> 02:01:05,040
Speaker 9: honored the work of the students here at Perdue and

2326
02:01:05,240 --> 02:01:08,760
Speaker 9: Purdue a large because it carries the pretty name and

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02:01:08,800 --> 02:01:11,840
Speaker 9: the labs name. And so you kind of walk the

2328
02:01:11,880 --> 02:01:16,520
Speaker 9: balance of making sure that you fulfill anything and everything

2329
02:01:16,640 --> 02:01:21,640
Speaker 9: that could possibly be done to bring his memory to

2330
02:01:21,720 --> 02:01:26,480
Speaker 9: life in this special way and also represent the history

2331
02:01:26,680 --> 02:01:28,520
Speaker 9: and passion of the students here at Perdue.

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Speaker 1: Noah, what does the long term vision for the guitar?

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02:01:33,200 --> 02:01:35,320
Speaker 1: What is I mean? Obviously for this year and maybe

2334
02:01:35,360 --> 02:01:37,960
Speaker 1: it's beyond this year, but Shane Steiken will present it.

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Speaker 1: DeForest Buckner was the first recipient by the way of

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Speaker 1: the honorary Jim Mersey guitar. After this season with the

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Speaker 1: win for Jim season, then the guitar will ultimately be displayed.

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Speaker 1: Where or is this something now that has no end

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Speaker 1: date in terms of its role.

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Speaker 9: That's a great question I would assume for Coach Stike

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02:01:59,280 --> 02:02:03,000
Speaker 9: and and whatnot. Our task ended the day we handed

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Speaker 9: off the guitar, and it's taken on a life of

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Speaker 9: its own. So just as you all will, we look

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Speaker 9: forward to seeing where it goes from here.

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Speaker 1: Guys, we appreciate it. Mark French and Noah Scott from

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Speaker 1: Purdue University and the Guitar Lab putting together the Shane

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Speaker 1: Steichen and of course Carli Urse Gordon, the daughters and

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Speaker 1: as well Pete Ward was a big part of it

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Speaker 1: as well, the Indiapolis Colts and Larry Hall. The win

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Speaker 1: for Jim guitar. Guys appreciate it very much and we

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Speaker 1: shall see who it is this weekend that is the

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Speaker 1: one that gets that award from Shane Steichen And it

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Speaker 1: will pull on the heart strings, I can promise you

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Speaker 1: of the team and the daughters, especially when they are

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Speaker 1: in the locker room after the game and Purdue giving

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Speaker 1: their contribution to it. Speaking of hearts and heart strings,

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Speaker 1: just a reminder again, folks, the number one heart program

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Speaker 1: in Indiana for cardiology by health grades, number one in

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Speaker 1: Indiana for interventional crodinary care and major cardiac surgery by

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Speaker 1: care checks is Franciscan Health and it is so important

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Speaker 1: the ability to get that forty nine dollars heart screen

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Speaker 1: you can pay out of pocket. It is a way

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Speaker 1: to get just an idea with your heart. You get

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Speaker 1: a heart health risk assessment with it. And I was

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Speaker 1: forty eight years old when I had a heart attack,

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Speaker 1: and so you think to yourself, well, that's that's old

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Speaker 1: guys stuff. I mean, forty eight is old, granted, but

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Speaker 1: you get what I'm saying there. You can never be

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Speaker 1: too early and being aware of your heart health, especially

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Speaker 1: if you have a history within your family of heart

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Speaker 1: health or cardiovascular disease. If you were a former or

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Speaker 1: current smoker. If you've had battles with obesity or diabetes,

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Speaker 1: those are risk elements as well, but it is oh

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Speaker 1: so important to make sure that you're on top of it.

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Speaker 1: You can always find out more at franciscanhealth dot org

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Speaker 1: slash screening bundles. That's franciscanhealth dot org slash slash screening bundles,

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Speaker 1: or you can call eight three three two three eight

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Speaker 1: zero six eight eight. That's eight three three two three

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Speaker 1: eight zero six eight eight. As always, you can text

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Speaker 1: me anytime twenty four to seven to ask me the

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Speaker 1: questions about heart health and I will happily get back

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Speaker 1: to you and make sure that we can get you

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Speaker 1: in touch with Franciscan. All right, coltson Broncos coming up Sunday,

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Speaker 1: we'll hand it off to John as part of our

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Speaker 1: crossover with Love Heating and Air. He is at Coaches

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Speaker 1: downtown and we will get you our predictions and prognostication.

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Speaker 1: See I said it right that time for the game

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Speaker 1: as well.

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Speaker 6: Next what.

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Speaker 1: Coltson Broncos coming up Sunday? Lucas Oil Stadium talked about

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Speaker 1: it earlier. I think when you look at Denver defensively,

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Speaker 1: they like the Blitz and the Colts actually fared well

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Speaker 1: against the Blitz with Miami, but different looks perhaps, and

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Speaker 1: I think Tyler Warren again becomes important to establish early

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Speaker 1: and get things going. But we will get our predictions

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Speaker 1: coming up. Just minute. Do we have John by the way,

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Speaker 1: Eddie the crossover of course, as we get set to

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Speaker 1: hand it off to JMV who will be with you

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Speaker 1: coming up at three o'clock brought to you by the

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Speaker 1: good guys at Love Heating and Air Love Dash HVAC

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Speaker 1: dot com three one seven three five three twenty one

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Speaker 1: forty one and John, you are at one of our

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02:04:58,960 --> 02:05:03,040
Speaker 1: favorite places down town at Coaches. You get everybody set

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Speaker 1: for what's going to be a big showdown coming up

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Speaker 1: on Sunday.

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Speaker 6: Jake, it is me and Tommy.

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Speaker 10: Yes, I think Chris Hagen is going to be here,

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02:05:11,120 --> 02:05:14,000
Speaker 10: so that should be exciting and one hell of a day.

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02:05:14,000 --> 02:05:16,000
Speaker 10: And you got to remind everybody too, we have Broncos

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Speaker 10: Colts tickets to give away with zinc and our friends

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Speaker 10: at bud Light, and we want you here to win those.

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Speaker 10: But also remember that we're going to start up Colts

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Speaker 10: Happy Hour with me and then get into the AU

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Speaker 10: Football pre game with Don because Indiana State and IU

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Speaker 10: and Bloomington on a Friday night on the fan later

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Speaker 10: on tonight.

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Speaker 6: So we've got a lot to get to.

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Speaker 10: As Jerry Reed famously said, we've got a lot to

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Speaker 10: do in a short time to do it.

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Speaker 6: That's kind of what he said, right, and he's mounted

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Speaker 6: down right.

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Speaker 10: I got a lot a lot of blank to do

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Speaker 10: and not a lot of time to do it. So

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Speaker 10: let's do it right here at coach is Tafforn.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I want to ask you this, John, Indiana State

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Speaker 1: in Indiana tonight at Memorial Stadium, an odd Friday, not odd,

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Speaker 1: but you know this couple of times they've done this

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Speaker 1: now on a Friday night. But it's a forty forty

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Speaker 1: six and a half point spread. I think Indiana State

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Speaker 1: covers your thoughts.

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Speaker 10: I would say, I would hope they would cover. I

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Speaker 10: think that this is like tuned up for you know,

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Speaker 10: a fifty two nothing. If they score, they cover, right, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean that's what I tell you. They absolutely cover.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they might.

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Speaker 1: Need ten, they might need ten, but yes, I think

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Speaker 1: they cover.

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Speaker 6: Then let me tell you what they have covered.

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Speaker 10: However, the spread of finances with five hundred and fifty

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Speaker 10: thousand dollars for a trek down forty six and back

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Speaker 10: for the Sycamore program. That just can't live on my

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Speaker 10: seventy five cents a month that I give them n

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Speaker 10: Tara HOAt, So you've got to do more. Five point

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Speaker 10: fifty K. Five fifty k is a nice round number.

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Speaker 10: Listen in a shout out to Kurt Mallory. But we

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Speaker 10: both like the Mallory family. Jake a great deal. Kurt

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Speaker 10: is really good people, a really good coach, and that

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Speaker 10: is this is not breaking news. Here an absolutely impossible

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Speaker 10: job to try to navigate, and he has done it

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Speaker 10: to the absolute best of his ability.

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Speaker 6: It is impossible to do. It is tough, it really is.

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Speaker 1: John will be with you coming up, yes Indiana Indiana

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02:07:11,600 --> 02:07:13,800
Speaker 1: State talk, but a lot of colts Broncos talk as well.

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02:07:13,840 --> 02:07:16,120
Speaker 1: Hagen will be there and a chance to win tickets

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02:07:16,160 --> 02:07:18,200
Speaker 1: with Zinc and bud Light if you are there and

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02:07:18,320 --> 02:07:21,560
Speaker 1: coaches to see John between now and You'll be there

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02:07:21,600 --> 02:07:24,000
Speaker 1: high late today. John, we'll be here.

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Speaker 10: I'll be here until probably around seven now as the

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02:07:27,120 --> 02:07:29,600
Speaker 10: well we're going to be on because yesterday took us down.

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Speaker 10: I think I don't think there was any uh, triple

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Speaker 10: a membership lounge or any chat room going on?

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Speaker 6: Is it back today? Do we know Jake? And is

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Speaker 6: it back for you?

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Speaker 1: Eddie gives a very cooy thumbs up, so you're good

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02:07:41,200 --> 02:07:41,440
Speaker 1: to go.

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Speaker 10: I people really like watching me drink. I've learned this,

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02:07:45,000 --> 02:07:46,720
Speaker 10: so that's cool, all right.

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Speaker 1: I believe me and believe me rare opportunity to do so.

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Speaker 1: All right, Yes on Sunday, Right, you got it? Brother

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Speaker 1: j and V is up next. We'll be back with

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Speaker 1: you at noon on Monday recapping Colts and Broncos. But Eddie,

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Speaker 1: your score prediction is. I think I went Colts twenty three,

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Speaker 1: Broncos twenty. Oh man, that's pretty tough to twenty four

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Speaker 1: to sixteen Colts win. I don't know the Broncos will

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02:08:14,560 --> 02:08:17,960
Speaker 1: get more points in that right, twenty four to twenty one.

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02:08:18,520 --> 02:08:20,440
Speaker 1: You try to come up with unusual numbers. But I

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02:08:20,440 --> 02:08:22,760
Speaker 1: do think the Colts will win. On Sunday, Big Key

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02:08:22,840 --> 02:08:24,840
Speaker 1: is going to be watching that blitz and being ready

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02:08:24,880 --> 02:08:26,960
Speaker 1: for it. But we will discuss it either way. I

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Speaker 1: will do so at noon on Monday. I thank you

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Speaker 1: for listening to Quarum Company.