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Speaker 1: But the point is there. It was in all its splendor.

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Speaker 1: The Kirkland bottled in Bond Bourbon. It's eat, drink, smoke.

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Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz. That is America's favorite amateur drinker. Fingers molloy,

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Speaker 1: the Kirkland signature bottled in Bond Bourbon. Bottled in bond.

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Speaker 1: That means it can only be one thing. It comes

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Speaker 1: Anything over one hundred proof it gets applause. Bottled in bond,

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Speaker 1: There are rules to these things. You can find that

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Speaker 1: all the rules in our book Let's Go Bourbon, available

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Speaker 1: Also our barbecue book, Let's Go Barbecue, Let's Go BBQ Recipes,

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Speaker 1: Tips and Tails from the Pit, also available at Amazon

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Speaker 1: dot com. Uh, it comes in basically because it is

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Speaker 1: Costco a forty two liter jrug. It is the largest

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Speaker 1: Now you've heard about the Bourbon, and they do other ones.

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Speaker 3: It was a big old bottle of Kirkland Tennessee whiskey.

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Speaker 3: And I did jug music in the bob during this show.

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Speaker 3: But I wouldn't confuse this with Jack Daniels with that banana. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: This is a real issue. Everything goes in cycles, right

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Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz. That is America's favorite amateur drinker. Fingers molloy.

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Speaker 1: The story from the New York Post about how the

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Speaker 1: And if it is, it is, and trends do a change.

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Speaker 2: It's just that some of these people who made a

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Speaker 3: How do these distilleries try to tap into that market?

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Speaker 2: When? What can you possibly do? So the I mean

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Speaker 1: in fingers, molloy. We had banana, we had some oak,

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Speaker 1: He's going in ladies and gentlemen. He's doing the Kentucky chew.

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Speaker 2: That's a win. Holy cow.

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Speaker 1: First of all, there's some heat. There's some heat right

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Speaker 1: It gives a yellow So what he gets right there?

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Speaker 1: yellow every time. Oh that is that is much sweeter.

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Speaker 1: Yet there is oak happening about the banana in the finish,

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Speaker 3: That's stupid nice if you like a little bit of

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Speaker 1: There is a little bit of oak. That's that's happening.

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Speaker 3: Well, I wanted to make sure that I took great

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's interesting. What's interesting?

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Speaker 3: First of all for me, that sting is still there.

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Speaker 3: It really has a big way, but it took a

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Speaker 2: But maybe that's the no. I don't think you're wrong

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Speaker 1: Is it?

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Speaker 1: Your liquor cabinet? I've seen it in two prices. I'm

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Speaker 2: That's stupid. Yeah, that is stupid.

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Speaker 1: That is it's if it's there at your local costco.

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Speaker 1: You absolutely have a couple of bottles. You put them away.

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Speaker 1: When you have the party, you pull it out and

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Speaker 1: This is the bottle than bond, so one hundred proof. Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: Now we're smoking from our torol foente vian yeho.

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Speaker 2: So this is the shark. It's a Maduro wrapper.

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Speaker 1: The shark seventy seven USA, Connecticut, broadly prapper Dominican, and

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Speaker 1: eighths by US five and seven eighths by sixty four.

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Speaker 1: I believe you are correct, But the sixty four ring

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Speaker 2: I think that this cigar that that that chocolate sweetness.

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Speaker 1: beautifully with everything else. This cigar is twenty five bucks.

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Speaker 3: maybe it is a little too tight, and it opened

436
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Speaker 3: things up, and it is.

437
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Speaker 2: It's it's a very nice smoke.

438
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Speaker 3: And you know, twenty six dollars, that's when you start

439
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 3: doing some well, I start doing some real thinking at

440
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 3: twenty dollars. You know, you get twenty six, twenty eight thirty,

441
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Speaker 3: then you're doing some really really really deep thinking. In

442
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 3: my mind, U I would have one or two of

443
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Speaker 3: these in my humandor.

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Speaker 1: If you are the first person to email fingers fingers

445
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Speaker 1: at Eat Drink, Smokeshow dot com and use the phrase

446
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: fingers unpack already all you gotta do in the subject

447
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Speaker 1: line fingers unpack already. We will contact you. We will

448
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 1: get your address and I will mail you one of these. Wow,

449
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: I will, I bought the box.

450
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 2: I will mail you one of these.

451
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 1: Got these from Garvinos down in the village garden with

452
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Speaker 1: a G, G A R. Garvinos dot com. I'll, I'll

453
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Speaker 1: send you one. Fingers unpack already. You can't you just

454
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 1: I just received an email.

455
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Speaker 2: No, you can't be you.

456
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Speaker 1: No, you cannot be associated with Eat, Drink, Smoke or

457
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 1: it's affiliates.

458
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 2: I quit. Oh I want a cigar? You're smoking one?

459
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Speaker 1: Now?

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00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 2: Oh that's true? Good lord, Uh yeah, it's good. Happy

461
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 2: to send it to you.

462
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: You just fingers unpack already in the subject line fingers

463
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Speaker 1: at Eatdrink Smoke Show dot com, And I will send.

464
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 2: You a cigar.

465
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 3: And if I don't like the tone of your email,

466
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 3: maybe you'll accidentally, even though you're the first person, be

467
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Speaker 3: the second person.

468
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Speaker 2: Keep that. Keep that in mind. What do you what's

469
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 2: with the threats to eat, drink smoke nation. You know what,

470
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, you are salty. You said it, I

471
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 2: gave the warning. I just don't need anybody getting too lippy,

472
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Speaker 2: That's all. I think.

473
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 1: It's fascinating that we think a thirty dollars bottle of

474
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Speaker 1: bourbon is absolutely worth it for a full leader.

475
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 2: But we're okay with a twenty five dollars cigar Like

476
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 2: it's a weird, weird thing to do.

477
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Speaker 1: And how I'll speak for me, how I see value,

478
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 1: Like that's a mind scramble.

479
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 2: But I'll pay twenty dollars for this cigar all day long,

480
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 2: no question.

481
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 3: To think that they're almost the same price. It's just

482
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 3: simply amazing the idea that that. And again, I'm almost

483
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 3: positive we did Kirkland, Tennessee whiskey.

484
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Speaker 2: And it's been five and a half year. Wait, are

485
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 2: we on six years? Yeah?

486
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 3: Are we think we started the summer over three episodes?

487
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,479
Speaker 3: I think we started the summer of twenty nineteen?

488
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 2: Do we not? Just as a podcast?

489
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 3: And then we morphed into the nationally syndicated a joggernaut

490
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Speaker 3: that we are now.

491
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Speaker 2: All I'm saying is.

492
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Speaker 1: Is that there are things I've forgotten, and I think

493
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: we are at a place fingers where we can start

494
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 1: all over again.

495
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 2: Sure we can start. I work so hard at trying

496
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 2: to not repeat. I got a suggestion for next week, meatballs.

497
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 2: Yeah we did that this week.

498
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Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, our meatball recipe, my meatball recipe,

499
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,959
Speaker 1: the kosher meatball rescip is up.

500
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 2: It will be up.

501
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 1: You see it there at etrink smokeshow dot com. Maybe,

502
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: just maybe gen Z has hope. And I will say

503
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 1: I've said it before, maybe not on this show, but

504
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 1: I've said it on my shows other places.

505
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 2: I have faith in gen Z. I like what I

506
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 2: see from gen Z. Not everything is perfect, not every

507
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 2: group is perfect, Not everyone is perfect.

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00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: I've met people in gen X total morons, But gen

509
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: Z gives me faith far more than millennials ever did.

510
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 2: It's Eat Rink Smoke. I'm Tony Katz. That is fingers below.

511
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: I find it all at eatrinksmokeshow dot com and follow

512
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: us on the Twitter x at go Eat Drink Smoke,

513
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: follow us on Instagram, Eat Drink Smoke podcast and download

514
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: the podcast wherever it is.

515
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: You get your podcast on your favorite podcast platform. Make

516
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 2: that happen.

517
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Speaker 3: I want to at some point before the show is

518
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 3: over going on a little bit of a rant about

519
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 3: gen X. But let's stick with let's sick. I don't

520
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 3: think we should have to wait.

521
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 1: I think that everybody is now saying, ooh, ran time

522
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: with fingers Maloy, hot, diggity, hold on, I'll do it

523
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: your way.

524
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 2: It's time to rant. Yeah, was that it? Yes? And

525
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 2: who wrote that theme song that was written by the

526
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 2: late Burt background a nice Oh what you guys say,

527
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 2: Conan O'Brien, Philip Glass, dang it, dang it. So many options,

528
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 2: so many choices. Go ahead, what's your generation?

529
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 3: Here's the old gen X that it's really starting to

530
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,239
Speaker 3: get a little bit and buy me in a little bit,

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Speaker 3: I mean a lot cringe worthy.

532
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Speaker 2: And it's this.

533
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Speaker 3: It's social media posts about how and by the way,

534
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Speaker 3: I'm a gen xer.

535
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 2: Yes, so I'm speaking on Twitter exit fingers Maloy. That's right.

536
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 3: The patting themselves on the back about how we were

537
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 3: latch key kids and we got a very whatever attitude,

538
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 3: the padding you're yourself on the back over and over

539
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 3: again about how independent we were growing up and how

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00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 3: we've got this oh sitting back and always feeling like

541
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 3: we're slighted, and enough already, just enough, already, just stop talking,

542
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 3: Just be a good gen xer and take all of

543
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 3: that pent up anger that you have about being a

544
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 3: latch key kid and just cram it deep deep down

545
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 3: inside of you.

546
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 2: Enough with the social media posts. Already, thank you, I

547
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 2: find it. We are doing what we do. We do

548
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 2: this show.

549
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: You do, of course, a radio show in Michigan. I

550
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: do a morning show in Indianapolis. I have a nationally

551
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: syndicated radio show. I do some TV work, some other things.

552
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: And to complain about influencers and be disgusted by what

553
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: you see when we do this, I sometimes say to myself,

554
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: I am an outright hypocrite, aren't I?

555
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 2: Because here I am.

556
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Speaker 3: No.

557
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Speaker 2: No, it's different.

558
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Speaker 3: We talk about things that are being discussed in the

559
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Speaker 3: cigar lounge, and I can't tell you how many times

560
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 3: I've sat in the cigar lounge and people have gone

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Speaker 3: on rants about influencers.

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00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 2: And social media outrage and all that stuff. But we

563
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Speaker 2: all agree that the influencers are terrible. They're terrible, right,

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Speaker 2: a lot of them are.

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Speaker 3: But what bothers me the most the fact that they

566
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Speaker 3: call themselves influencers. Right, I mean you and I we do, eat, rink, smoke.

567
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Speaker 3: It's on nine thousands across the country, all over the country,

568
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 3: we are listened to. You look at our podcast numbers,

569
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Speaker 3: the amount of countries we are listening to around the globe.

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Speaker 3: It's staggering.

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Speaker 1: It is getting good. We thank you very much. By

572
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: the way, download the podcast, subscribe. We'd appreciate it, really

573
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Having said that, we've never called ourselves bourbon

574
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: influence cigar influencers. We try to entertain people.

575
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 2: We try to do.

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Speaker 1: You know, I question whether or not that model works.

577
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: Our entire process is predicated on.

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Speaker 2: The idea that we're not experts. We like this stuff.

579
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Speaker 1: But you look at people who call themselves experts, and

580
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: there are plenty of people who are doing stuff with

581
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: cigars that I like. And they're plenty of people I

582
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: don't even know doing stuff with cigars.

583
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 2: I like.

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Speaker 1: There are people doing stuff with food that is so good,

585
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: and I think we should start highlighting some of those people.

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00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: I think that's worth worth doing. But we never put

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Speaker 1: ourselves in that place.

588
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 2: We talk about.

589
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: Things, we don't talk about you. We are the destination.

590
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: We're the only people who can tell you what's right

591
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: and what's wrong? And is that it is that the

592
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: influencer wants to say, look at me, as opposed to

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Speaker 1: us when we're discussing look at the subject at hand.

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00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: It's hot chicks. So not in the food space. Food space,

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Speaker 1: there are some people doing the food influencer stuff. Hey

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00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: today we're in my my family's restaurant kitchen and we're

597
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: gonna make X. And she's wearing the crop top and

598
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: the belly button ring and that, like, no one's wearing

599
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: their hair like that.

600
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 2: Where's your hair net? What's happening here?

601
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 3: And they need the dough and I've never seen someone

602
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 3: need dough with their elbows pushed against their chest in waves?

603
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying? That's what that's going on.

604
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 3: And for those of you watching us right now on YouTube,

605
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 3: you can see me demonstrating it. And by the way,

606
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 3: find eating smoke over a YouTube and rumble, uh they

607
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 3: did they do that whole pushing thing.

608
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Speaker 1: I feel uncomfortable right now. I think I need an

609
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: adult you do. Tony notes are up here. I don't

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Speaker 1: even want to see those. But it's it's like that stuff.

611
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: It's like, can you can you stop? This is ridiculous.

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00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 3: Okay, now now, now, now I feel like we are

613
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Speaker 3: coming uh the gen xer slash old man screaming at

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Speaker 3: Cloud about these young influence persons.

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00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 2: But it's like there's there's a there's a difference, I think.

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Speaker 1: But but your conversation was the people who want to

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Speaker 1: pat themselves on the back, And our argument is the

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Speaker 1: people who are out there claiming level of expertise.

619
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Speaker 2: What what what is expertise? Like?

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Speaker 1: What proves that if you're the master distiller at name

621
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: the distillery? Okay, there's an expertise. There are people in

622
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: the world of cigars who are really, really, really talented

623
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: people with incredible palettes.

624
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 2: They can do this stuff.

625
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 3: I think a lot of it boils down to authenticity.

626
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 3: And I truly believe when it comes to what we

627
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Speaker 3: do here at the show. And I think you really

628
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 3: set the stage early when you said, listen, when we're

629
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 3: going to do this show. You said you never want

630
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 3: to come across as saying that you are an expert.

631
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 3: You smoke a ton of cigars, you have a passion

632
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 3: for cigars. I like cigars. It's your one of your passions. Sure,

633
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,919
Speaker 3: and uh, you know we talk about these things, whether

634
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 3: it's it's cigars or bourbon or whatever coming from a

635
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 3: fan perspective. And I to me, not only do I

636
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 3: feel good about that, I don't like to claim to

637
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 3: be something that i'm I'm not an expert on cigars.

638
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 2: I'm not an expert on bourbon. I really like both.

639
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: Uh.

640
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 3: It's our way of exposing the things that we like

641
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 3: to an audience and hopefully in a way that's entertaining.

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00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: And it's what brings people back to what I was

644
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 3: referring to area the global audience that we.

645
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: Have, is that the difference we're interested in the product

646
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,280
Speaker 1: and the influencer is interested in themselves.

647
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 2: Yes, I think there's some of that.

648
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: That's so all right, So as a matter of definition,

649
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: that's the that's the fundamental difference. I My point is

650
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: being interested in yourself. For a bunch of these people's

651
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: making them some money. And I don't know how much,

652
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 1: but there's money being made. People do click on the stuff. Yeah,

653
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: So is our approach wrong because.

654
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I'm gonna change it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not going elbows in. I'm not I'm

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Speaker 1: not squeezing anything. I think it's basically what I what

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Speaker 1: I've come to is that nothing will be squos. What

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Speaker 1: that's oh well, also we know how to use the

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Speaker 1: word squos. That might be a difference.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: And it's only what's really going to be interesting is

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Speaker 3: the influence of AI on all of this. Well, you know,

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Speaker 3: go back to the you know, the the kind of

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Speaker 3: off hand remark I made about hot chicks, right, you know,

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Speaker 3: the hot chick influencers. You're not gonna know if it's

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Speaker 3: even a real person anymore, or if it's AI, and

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Speaker 3: how that's going to have an impact on influencers and

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Speaker 3: content creators.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be really something to watch. We are

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Speaker 2: smoking from our turo day the Shark.

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Speaker 1: This is the Onyehos seventy seven moduro uh five and

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Speaker 1: seven eighths buy sixty four twenty.

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Speaker 2: Five dollars a stick all day, all day with this cigar.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: Fingers unpack already, Uh send that email if you oh,

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Speaker 1: if you miss that, you might need to get the podcast.

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Speaker 1: Let's see if you have a chance to get a

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Speaker 1: free cigar and from Kirkland Signature. They're bottled in bond

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Speaker 1: a bourbon coming in it. I think thirty dollars a bottle.

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Speaker 1: I've seen someplace of twenty five, some place thirty five,

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Speaker 1: so let's call it thirty dollars a bottle.

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Speaker 2: Man, it's a one liter bottle, one hundred proof. That's terrific.

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