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Speaker 1: What a day already, what a day already. It is

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Speaker 1: literally today, on this hump day Wednesday, there are it

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Speaker 1: is literally a celebration. I know it's cloudy. It is

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Speaker 1: sun shining down on Indianapolis. Glorious, perfect, beautiful day, beautiful

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Speaker 1: day in Indianapolis, Indiana because of a number of reasons,

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Speaker 1: and I will begin with chronologically what happened. First, the

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Speaker 1: Pacers managed to find a way to deliver once again

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Speaker 1: as they need to do, and despite leading and looking

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Speaker 1: like they're going to win in the California Capital staying

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Speaker 1: in that right lane and letting teams pass on the left,

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Speaker 1: and now the Indiana Pacers have the worst record in

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Speaker 1: the NBA. As we are hoping, we say hallelujah for

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Speaker 1: that fourteen point two percent chance of landing the number

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Speaker 1: one overall pick. And yes, one through four, it doesn't

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Speaker 1: matter the numbers or the likelihood of staying in that

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Speaker 1: top four of the draft are the same. But nonetheless,

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Speaker 1: you want to make sure that you are as safe

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Speaker 1: as possible, and so therefore you have that and it's

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Speaker 1: like hallelujah.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: Then you move to the news that we now know

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Speaker 1: who Indiana is going to play in the Big Ten Tournament.

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Speaker 1: Big Ten Tournament last night getting started, Northwestern beating Penn State.

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Speaker 1: So that means now it will be Northwestern and Indiana

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Speaker 1: tonight at six point thirty on the Big Ten Network.

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Speaker 1: Bruce Weber going to join us two thirty. We will

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Speaker 1: talk a lot about the Big Ten Tournament and everything

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Speaker 1: taking place.

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Speaker 2: What's that? And you can listen to Don Fisher, Eric

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Speaker 2: Sewer and John herricon ninety three WABC starting at five thirty.

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Speaker 1: That's right, that game airing today, so you have that

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Speaker 1: as well. Of course, we can get into bam out

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Speaker 1: of Ayu and the fact that he hit five hundred

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Speaker 1: and seventy two free throws last night and is now

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Speaker 1: But I'm burying the lead. I'm burying the lead. I

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Speaker 1: said it yesterday at the end of the show. By

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Speaker 1: no means, in any way, shape or form, was it

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Speaker 1: going out on a limb. We knew this was inevitable.

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Speaker 1: But I came into today's show excited to talk about

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Speaker 1: those things I just mentioned, Excited to mention what in

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Speaker 1: the world happened in the World Basketball or the World

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Speaker 1: Baseball Classic.

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Speaker 2: Oh don't even can be started on that.

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Speaker 1: Jake excited to talk about the fact that Connor Daily

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Speaker 1: will be back in the Indianapolis five hundred mile race.

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Speaker 1: Do we have the Hallelujah sounder again for Connor Daily

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Speaker 1: Daily will be driving for Dryer and Ryan Bold racing

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Speaker 1: in this the twenty twenty six Indianapolis five hundred or

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Speaker 1: at least able to attempt to qualify to do so. Now,

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Speaker 1: with all of that said, came in today super stoked

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Speaker 1: because I knew when I walked in, and I was

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Speaker 1: reminded of it the second I walked in, I smelled

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Speaker 1: it because Eddie, if you could please, this is what

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Speaker 1: it sounded like when I saw that Chicago's Pizza was

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Speaker 1: bringing pizza in for us today. Absolutely, and it's already

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Speaker 1: gone by the way. I noticed Land and walked over

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Speaker 1: out how many friends we have here with Chicago's Pizza

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Speaker 1: out of their nineteen Indiana locations, and Ron and Nate

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Speaker 2: But let's in the querying company. Fintashy Football League. Were

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Speaker 2: they not? What's that winners of the Query Company? No,

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Speaker 2: they were the runner up. Remember they got beat Oh

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Speaker 2: that's right.

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Speaker 1: Okay, here's a big story of the day. The Colts

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Speaker 1: have signed Daniel Jones to a two year extension for

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Speaker 1: eighty eight million dollars upward of one hundred with incentives, bonuses,

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Speaker 1: the mix for the next two years, which means Eddie,

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Speaker 1: all of the speculation, all of the conjecture, all of

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Speaker 1: the guessing games, and all of the analysis when it

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Speaker 1: we say a resounding the story. Everything always falls into

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Speaker 1: place for Chris Ballard. It just does. It's It's like

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Speaker 1: at the eleventh hour. Who's going to be the Colts

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Speaker 1: second year out of Philip Rivers, and you delay it

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Speaker 1: and you delay, and then Vola Matt Ryan falls into

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones kind of falls into your lap. You've got

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Speaker 1: to make a coaching hire upon your first big announcement

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Speaker 1: you have completely swung and missed on this golden opportunity

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Speaker 1: for an offensive guru to come in and lead your

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Speaker 1: have been. And then he decides, at the last minute,

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Speaker 1: into your lap. It always seems to work itself out,

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Speaker 1: and in this situation, once again, the Colts were saved

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Speaker 1: though the Baltimore Ravens had a trade done to get

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Speaker 1: Max Crosby from the Raiders. The Baltimore Ravens were good

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Speaker 1: was going to be Max Crosby, who was coming off

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Speaker 1: that over Trey Hendrickson, who was also available in ending

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Speaker 1: If Max Crosby is going to Baltimore, then the Colts say,

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Speaker 1: and Trey Hendrickson, who's as good as anybody in Cincinnati,

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Speaker 2: And then it happened.

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Speaker 1: And what happened then was the Baltimore Ravens decided either

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Speaker 1: get Hendrickson for nothing other than a contract, Gosh, that's

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Speaker 1: a great point. So they bring in Max Crosby and

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Speaker 1: we had for Max Crosby after his physical we will

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Speaker 1: and they call Trey Hendrickson, and they say, what do

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Speaker 1: you think you want to dance? And so Hendrickson while

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Speaker 2: I'm speaking here figuratively.

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Speaker 1: He was so close to Indianapolis, he had passed eleven

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Speaker 1: So very shortly after we find out that Hendrickson's going

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Speaker 1: example of an aptitude from the Colts, and the Colts

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Speaker 1: always being reactive instead of proactive, before we can get

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Speaker 1: all of those things. They turn around and they announce

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Speaker 1: Number one, it is clear that the Colts were waiting

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Speaker 1: the transition tag. Before they gave a multi year agreement

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Speaker 1: to Alec Pierce. Clearly they had said to Alec Pierce,

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Speaker 1: a year, and then we'll start working on and massaging

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Speaker 1: shoes on of financial obligations here and there, Hendrickson gets

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Speaker 1: And he is a very good player. There's no doubt

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Speaker 1: he's an elite level pass rusher. And there's no doubt

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Speaker 1: that the Colts have not had a pass rush in

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Speaker 1: this town since Circle Center Mall was buzzing. But this

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Speaker 1: means two things. It means a that the Colts, in

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Speaker 1: my opinion, as soon as it came out the Baltimore Ravens,

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Speaker 1: have backed out of our trade agreement for Max Crosby.

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Speaker 1: We will have no for their comment at this time.

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Speaker 1: In quote from the Raiders. As soon as that happened

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Speaker 1: and Hendrickson then went to Baltimore, it meant that the

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Speaker 1: Colts number one were going to be saved from themselves

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Speaker 1: of giving big money ticket to a thirty one year

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Speaker 1: old because that money should be spent elsewhere. And more importantly,

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Speaker 1: and secondly, this means that Chris Ballard once again is

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Speaker 1: go back to the drawing board, and he's going to

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Speaker 1: have to learn how to get development from the continued

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Speaker 1: investing in pass rush. If they can't get it out

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Speaker 1: I do want to get to this even though, just

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Speaker 1: as a reprieve if you will, from this conversation. But Eddie,

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Speaker 2: Put it over like Jake, You're gonna get me going again.

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Speaker 1: who was always ready, Joel, let's get right into the

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Speaker 1: meat of the matter. By the way, speaking of the meat, Eddie,

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Speaker 1: you liked that meat Lovers Deep Dish pizza from Chicago's

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Speaker 1: Pizza they brought in right.

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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, you've have you enjoyed a few pieces one

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Speaker 2: so far?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: One?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, if you consider it's like saying, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've only had one state, it's called New England, right

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Speaker 1: But nonetheless, Joel joining us, Joe, let's get right to

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Speaker 1: the specifics, the details, give us the numbers on specifically

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Speaker 1: what we're looking at here for Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 5: Well, here's the thing we don't We don't know. The

446
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Speaker 5: thing everybody wants to know right now is the cap

447
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Speaker 5: hit and I don't know that until I see them.

448
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Speaker 5: I have not seen the full structure of the deal yet.

449
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Speaker 5: I've seen some reports about what the signing bonus could be.

450
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Speaker 5: But there's this thing, and this is this is where

451
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Speaker 5: we're going to get right into the deep stuff right away.

452
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Speaker 5: There's the thing you can use the contract called a

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Speaker 5: void year, which is essentially like it's a two year deal, right. Well,

454
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Speaker 5: if they put a third and a fourth year on

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Speaker 5: there that automatically void at the end of the deal,

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Speaker 5: then they can put a big signing bonus on it,

457
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Speaker 5: spread it out and that cap hit gets much smaller,

458
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Speaker 5: really really fast here in the first year to.

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Speaker 6: Allow them to do stuff.

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Speaker 5: And I think it's possible that that's what they've done

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Speaker 5: because that frees up cap space and also Honestly, if

462
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Speaker 5: it doesn't work out and all of that accelerates in

463
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Speaker 5: a future year, you're in a complete rebuild anyway, and

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Speaker 5: it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: You know, it gets very intricate, Joel, Right, Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: I'm curious of this. I know in the NBA world,

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Speaker 1: for example, you know, the Pacers have a front office member,

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Speaker 1: Ted Woo, who his I'm not gonna say his entire

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Speaker 1: I don't want to sell him short, but a large

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Speaker 1: part of his responsibility is understanding the nuances, the terminology,

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Speaker 1: the legality, the clauses of the salary cap and contracts

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Speaker 1: and maneuverability and et cetera. Do the Colts have someone,

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Speaker 1: you know, I know they have Dan Emerson who is

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Speaker 1: their legal counsel. But in terms of cap numerology, does

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Speaker 1: that fall on Chris Ballard to understand all of that

476
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Speaker 1: or does he simply go and then somebody else looks

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Speaker 1: over it and says, no, no, no, you can't do that.

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Speaker 5: That's Mike bloom Mike bloom Is it has been the

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Speaker 5: Colts cap guy for a very long time.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Cap Guy probably isn't his official title on the website,

482
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Speaker 5: but that's what he does. If he knows, and just

483
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Speaker 5: about every team has one of those. It doesn't often

484
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Speaker 5: come up here, or it hasn't in the last decade

485
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Speaker 5: where you have some of these things, but they have

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Speaker 5: used some stuff like the void years before.

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Speaker 2: I think Eric Fisher's.

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Speaker 5: Deal had a void year on it. I am well

489
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Speaker 5: versed in it because I used to cover the Saints,

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Speaker 5: who play just the most creative games with the salary

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Speaker 5: cap every year, and so I'm fairly well versed in

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Speaker 5: how you can stretch a cap hit out and make

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Speaker 5: it make a deal that essentially for the player is hey,

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Speaker 5: I'm still getting a lot of money, but on the

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Speaker 5: cap doesn't look that way.

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Speaker 7: I'm pretty well versed in that.

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Speaker 1: You think it's just coincidence that the guy's last name

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Speaker 1: is bloom and every spring is his time to shine?

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Speaker 2: Is that? I mean?

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Speaker 1: Honestly, like, if his name was Mike Hibernate, would he

501
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Speaker 1: have to be like somebody that's that that just releases

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Speaker 1: players in November?

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Speaker 7: I if it was if it was something like how

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Speaker 7: Mike count or something, No.

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Speaker 1: Way that that was that was way too dangerous to

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Speaker 1: a Walmart PA prank. No, let's Eddie, if you could, please,

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Speaker 1: can you mute the last thirty seconds of the conversation. Joel,

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Speaker 1: we thank you for joining us today. That very well,

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Speaker 1: that's that's Joel a Ericson. He used to work for

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Speaker 1: the Indie Star joining us the program? Any other? How

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Speaker 1: about how how about Mike numeral? Is that safe for

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Speaker 1: Mike numeral? Can we just go with at.

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Speaker 5: Mike Mike numbers? It's like the uh uh there was

514
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Speaker 5: a picture for the Twins whose name was Grant Balfour.

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Speaker 5: I thought that was that was a terrible name for

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Speaker 5: a picture.

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Speaker 2: You don't want how I guess right?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so uh anyway back to our mature conversation. Uh,

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Speaker 1: this leaves as we understand it, or we assume Joel,

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Speaker 1: this would leave then the Colts. What kind of room

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Speaker 1: in terms of others that can be brought in, not

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Speaker 1: counting draft people or maneuverability. Do they still have some

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Speaker 1: room or are they now pretty much? Are we where

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Speaker 1: we are now?

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Speaker 5: If if they if they structured this deal in a

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Speaker 5: way where the first year cap hit is is fairly low,

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Speaker 5: they should have room because, like they've they've already accounted

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Speaker 5: for We haven't seen the structure of Alec Pierce's deal yet.

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Speaker 5: Because they're they're not filing that with the league office

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Speaker 5: until today when the new league year starts, because that's

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Speaker 5: when the trades for Michael Pittman, Anxiety or Franklin can

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Speaker 5: be processed, which opens up I think twenty eight million

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Speaker 5: ish in cap space, so that they should have room

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Speaker 5: depending on how they've structured this deal. My assumption is

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Speaker 5: that they structured the deal in a way where they

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Speaker 5: have a chance to give themselves an opportunity to make

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Speaker 5: more signings.

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Speaker 1: Is it coincidence that the Daniel Jones signing came once

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Speaker 1: we knew Trey Hendrickson was off the board? Were they

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Speaker 1: waiting to see how they could massage both? Did the

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Speaker 1: lack of signing one facilitate the signing of Jones or

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Speaker 1: are they not related?

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Speaker 5: I don't think they're related. I think that they were

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Speaker 5: planning to have I think that they were hoping to

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Speaker 5: have Trey Hendrickson and Daniel Jones together, regardless.

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Speaker 7: Of what the timing was on that Ravens just kind.

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Speaker 5: Of came in and blew up things for the Colts

548
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 5: and for the Raiders and for really the entire NFL.

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Speaker 5: But that's my understanding is that they it wouldn't they

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Speaker 5: didn't need to have this done necessarily to sein Trey Hendrickson.

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Speaker 1: Okay, because I to me and you tell me if

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Speaker 1: I'm wrong. My understanding is Hendrickson that it was about

553
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Speaker 1: a three million dollar per difference. In other words, the

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Speaker 1: Ravens were willing to go to twenty eight. The Colts

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Speaker 1: wanted to go around twenty five. That's not to say

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Speaker 1: they wouldn't encounter it if they knew that they were

557
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Speaker 1: in competition. Maybe I don't know, but I want you

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Speaker 1: to tell me, Joel why I'm wrong.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: I believe that the Colts were saved from themselves here

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Speaker 1: because it is my belief that giving that kind of

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Speaker 1: money to a guy after the age of thirty is

563
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Speaker 1: not wise.

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Speaker 2: Your thoughts, well.

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Speaker 7: If that's that's the other thing, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: The first thing I.

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Speaker 5: Saw, or I thought when I saw the Hendrickson deal

568
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 5: was four years is a long time, even with some

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Speaker 5: of the I think it's sixty million and guarantees. So

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Speaker 5: if it's the two years up front, you.

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Speaker 6: Could get out of it.

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Speaker 5: After that, My first thought was it's a long time

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Speaker 5: to give a thirty one year old. So that's the

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Speaker 5: other pieces did the Colts offer four years or was

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Speaker 5: it you know, did they offer something closer to twenty

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Speaker 5: five over three with with you know, two of those

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00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 5: years guaranteed. They traditionally have have held to the shorter

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00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 5: deals for players who are older like that, And my

579
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Speaker 5: guess is that they, I mean, just based on history,

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Speaker 5: I don't know. Like, my guess is that that's what

581
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Speaker 5: you'd want to do. So I think that's the biggest

582
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Speaker 5: thing is if you're going to if you're going to

583
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Speaker 5: sign a player like that, like you might have to

584
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Speaker 5: pay the per year premium, but don't leave it where

585
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Speaker 5: you're stuck with stuff on the back end.

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Speaker 1: Do you believe that the Colts think Joel Joel Erickson's

587
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Speaker 1: my guest from the Danapoles starr. He's on the Joba

588
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: House Colbrew Coffee guest line. Are they starting to think

589
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Speaker 1: that Leatu Latu is not going to be the level

590
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Speaker 1: of player they anticipated him growing into.

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Speaker 5: They still say that they think he can develop into it,

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Speaker 5: but the fact that they're going for that they need

593
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 5: that they know they need air rushers acknowledges that he

594
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Speaker 5: hasn't gotten there yet. So it's kind of a roundabout

595
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 5: way of saying they're still hoping that he's going to

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Speaker 5: be that player.

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Speaker 2: But they know he's not.

598
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 7: They know he has not been.

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Speaker 2: That player yet. It would be hard to argue that

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Speaker 2: he has.

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Speaker 5: I know he had the eight and a half sacks

602
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Speaker 5: last year, but from from a standpoint of just being

603
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 5: a guy who wrecks a game, the elite guy who

604
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Speaker 5: an opposing team has to game plan for and can

605
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 5: you know, bring the rest of the defensive line up

606
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Speaker 5: with him, he just has not been that. And we

607
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Speaker 5: saw it put very starkly last year because the Forrest

608
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Speaker 5: Buckner got hurt. If the Forest Buckner doesn't get hurt,

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Speaker 5: I think it's harder to make that. I think there's

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Speaker 5: way to maybe muddy the waters on that. I think

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Speaker 5: it's pretty obvious that the guy that was creating stuff

612
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Speaker 5: for everybody else was Buckner and that Lotsuo isn't quite

613
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Speaker 5: able to do that at this point.

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Speaker 1: You know, if the guy, like, for example, if the

615
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Speaker 1: guy's a sack specialist and his name is or a

616
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Speaker 1: pass rush specialist and his name is Mike Sack, that's funny, right,

617
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Speaker 1: you know, we'd laugh about that if he had some

618
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Speaker 1: if he had some sort of testicular injury. You wouldn't

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Speaker 1: necessarily want to make fun of that last name. Kind

620
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Speaker 1: of like if you're talking about numerology, count is okay,

621
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Speaker 1: but if you factor in the first name, you've got

622
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Speaker 1: to have a little bit of hesitation in the way

623
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Speaker 1: that you're going about this, right, or.

624
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Speaker 7: You have to enunciate the oh.

625
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 6: I try to really get the.

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Speaker 1: You're very you're very adamant that you went about this

627
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: and a very the owl. No, No, I was, I

628
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: was on the owl on that right, the count. Right,

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Speaker 1: you're very adamant about this.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I I tried. I tried really hard to enunciate

631
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Speaker 7: the the oh.

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Speaker 1: Here Eddie's staring at the floor, Eddie, Eddie is staring

633
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 1: at the floor. He's just so you know, right, Yeah.

634
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's still upset about Team USA losing last night.

635
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, did you watch that, Joel? I did?

636
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:16,439
Speaker 7: I did.

637
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Speaker 1: I thought that the loss was one thing, the manager

638
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: not knowing that they haven't advanced as another.

639
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that I had.

640
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Speaker 5: I had just seen that this morning, and there's been

641
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 5: so much cult stuff I haven't gotten a chance to

642
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 5: dig into it to know, like did it change pitching decisions?

643
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 5: They kind of played their B lineups a little bit,

644
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 5: although and I you know, I don't know if that

645
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 5: would have altered things. But the other thing is just

646
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 5: like it's that Italy team. A lot of those some

647
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 5: of those guys on that Italy team that homeward last

648
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 5: night are names that maybe if you're a casual baseball

649
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 5: fan you don't know. But those guys are like big,

650
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 5: big time prospects who played in the majors last year

651
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 5: and are going to play in the majors again.

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Speaker 7: And so it's not like they played.

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Speaker 1: Isn't the sicily record right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's not.

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Speaker 7: They didn't.

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00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 5: They didn't go you know, Michael Lorenzen has been a

657
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 5: picture in the league for years. It's not like they

658
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 5: went four and two thirds scoreless against the year the

659
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 5: Czech Electrician, like Japan.

660
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 2: Did the Czech Electrician.

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00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, you didn't hear about this, Yeah, Victoria and Japan

662
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: is obviously elite.

663
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Speaker 2: I get it now.

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Speaker 1: Was that a game that Japan needed or did they

665
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Speaker 1: think they'd already advanced what would happened there?

666
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 6: They didn't.

667
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 5: They didn't need it, and they didn't play like Otaki

668
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 5: and a couple of the other guys.

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Speaker 1: But the same just out of curiosity, that was that picture?

670
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 2: Ejected? He wasn't? Was he? He was not? Okay?

671
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 1: I thought I read that the check bounced. Oh nice, nice,

672
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Speaker 1: Any anything you'd like to add to that?

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00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 4: Uh?

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00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 2: Does Nick Cross have a market?

675
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: Joel? Just out of curiosity, do you at least one

676
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 1: of the two of you? Do you ever actually thank

677
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: yourself that you have access to this sort of whimsical

678
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 1: performance each day?

679
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 2: I do?

680
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you?

681
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 6: See Eddie, this is on the kind of radio I prefer.

682
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, Zee, I'm glad there's one of us.

683
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, just say just so you know, Joel, Uh,

684
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: we might have a position opening here soon and you

685
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: might be in need of one, so this could work

686
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: out perfectly, right, This is this is like the Eddie's

687
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: Eddie's Trey Hendrickson and you're Daniel Jones. We'll just go

688
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: ahead and lob it over to you.

689
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 2: Right, I'm good?

690
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: Are we done here? What is the next position?

691
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 2: If you will?

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Speaker 1: In conclusion here for the Colts, the next thing that

693
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,479
Speaker 1: they really need to address, whether or not they're able

694
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: to do so in this off season, is what it.

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00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 2: Depends an end.

696
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 7: But they signed that.

697
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 5: You know that they've got Ardent Key as a free agent.

698
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 5: But he's he's really a rotational piece, and you need

699
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 5: a you need a another guy opposite to La too,

700
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 5: and the options are very very thin.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 6: It kind of looks to.

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00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 5: Me like it's basically Bradley Chubb who's about to get

704
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 5: released by the Miami Dolphins officially, I think in a

705
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 5: couple hours, or you trade for Jonathan Greenard from the

706
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 5: Minnesota Vikings. Those are the only two guys who really

707
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 5: moved the needle for me. But to me, like, that's

708
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 5: that's the spot you have to get pass rush and

709
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 5: that's that's really what's left now that Hendrickson's off the board.

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00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 1: All right, Joe, we'll let you get back to work.

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00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: I realize it's a busy time. Appreciate you fit in

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00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 1: time for us here today.

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Speaker 7: You bet sounds a good guys.

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Speaker 1: Joel a Ericson joining us from the Indianapolis Star on

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Speaker 1: the Java House Colbrew Coffee guest line, Eddie, did you

716
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: just take a big sigh of relief?

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00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 2: Is that what you did? Now that we're we got

718
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 2: through that? Why are you clapping?

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Speaker 1: I'm not clapping, Actually, you're like golf clapping over there. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm like I'm I'm not clapping. I'm just moving my

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00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 1: hands like in a relaxed form.

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Speaker 2: That's a clapping.

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Speaker 1: No clapp exist? Yeah, well, I mean you're just like

724
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 1: tapping my hands together like that.

725
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 2: You're doing the motion of clapping, but there's no audio

726
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 2: coming from your hands. Correct. I'm I'm that's a golf clap. No,

727
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 2: I'm a d D twitching. How's that? Did you forget

728
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 2: to take your medicine today? Is that what it is?

729
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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: I listen, I have so many of them to take,

731
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: it's impossible for.

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Speaker 2: Me to forget. Oh really, yeah, I.

733
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Speaker 1: Got a whole I mean, this is how you know,

734
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 1: I just had this conversation with somebody the other day.

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Speaker 1: This is life what you have to look forward to, Eddie.

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Speaker 2: You know. I got the little box, right, the little

737
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Speaker 2: pill box.

738
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Speaker 1: I got the AM, I got the PM, I got

739
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: the travel and I got the car in case I

740
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: ever get stuck in a snowbank. I got more of

741
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: these pill boxes floating around than Aisle nine of CBS.

742
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 2: It's it's just the way it works, right.

743
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 1: What do we have lined up on the Big Show today, Eddie?

744
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: Can you run down for us the rest of the program?

745
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can if you want me to.

746
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:53,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be the reason for the request.

747
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 2: Okay, Christian, you asked me see a VCR will join

748
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 2: us at two o'clock. Bruce Webber, big ten Network analyst,

749
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 2: will join us between games in Chicago at two thirty.

750
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 2: And we've got tickets Galory to give away today.

751
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: We've got a four pack of tickets to the Indiana

752
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,760
Speaker 1: Sports Corp NCA fan Fest.

753
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 2: We've got Eric Clapton tickets, a pair of those to

754
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 2: give away, and a family four packup tickets for the

755
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 2: Fishers traight home opener on Saturday.

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00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: Okay, but we're gonna do this. On the other side,

757
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: I do want to know while we're still in the

758
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 1: window where people might be out and about their reaction

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00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: to this news of the Colts. Are you relieved that

760
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: this a lot? I do believe personally, I'll respectfully disagree

761
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: with Joel although he probably does know. But I think

762
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: the Jones thing, there's no coincidence. That was once Hendrickson

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00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: was off the board, then immediately they were able to

764
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: lock that in. Not because they needed the money for it,

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00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: but it just gave them better clarity of what they

766
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: had to deal with. But do you feel better as

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00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: a Colts fan when you take the plus of Jones

768
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 1: now with two years, but the minas of we know

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Speaker 1: definitively no Hendrickson, do you feel better as a Colts fan?

770
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: Do you feel the same as a Colts fan? Are

771
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: you discouraged as a Colts fan? Two three, nine, ten

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00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: seventy is the telephone number, and I want to do

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00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 1: a survey of exactly that with your calls next. Hey, Jake,

774
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: this on text. It's a swing en amiss for Ballard.

775
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: Pass Rush is our biggest issue and it never gets rectified.

776
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: That is absolutely his white whale. There's no doubt about that.

777
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: And I get the fact that it is difficult sometimes

778
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: to exactly determine what a player is going to be

779
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: at the pro level from the college level.

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00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 2: I get it.

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00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: But at the same time, they have had multiple attempts

782
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 1: to try to find I mean, maybe this is true everywhere.

783
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: We don't cover every franchise, so we don't look at

784
00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:01,280
Speaker 1: it as closely and as nuanced. But there are others.

785
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: You know, Cleveland, for example, Cleveland's been looking for and

786
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: searching for and trying to find their answer long term

787
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: at quarterback for seemingly thirty five years. Honestly, like if

788
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: you look at you know, you see those in the

789
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: Colts now are starting to get into this category. Maybe

790
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: the Jones situation takes care of that. We'll see. But

791
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: those famous Cleveland Jersey photos that you see of the

792
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: Tim Couch jersey that now has like nineteen Scotch tape

793
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:41,240
Speaker 1: names behind it, and they've been searching since Bernie Kosar basically,

794
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: and for the Colts, it feels like that's what it

795
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: is at pass Rush in the post matthis Freeny era,

796
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: it's just been one attempt after another after another after

797
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: another at guys, either through free agency or drafting them

798
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: that then, for what what of a reason just do

799
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 1: not pan out. So maybe Hendrickson would have been the answer.

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00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: I personally think at thirty one, for the money that

801
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 1: was going to be there, that they probably dodged one.

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00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 2: That's just me.

803
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 1: I'm probably in the minority there. Courtney joins us on

804
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: the program. Two three, nine, ten seventy is the telephone number? Hi, Courtney,

805
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: how are you?

806
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 2: Hey? Kevin? How you know? Now? Not Courtney? And no

807
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 2: hang on now hang on.

808
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: Well, and I appreciate you calling in, but we're going

809
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: to back it up, okay, and I'm going to give

810
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 1: you a second. Go here, you ready, Corney joins us

811
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: on the program, Courtney, how are you?

812
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,240
Speaker 2: How you doing it? The first?

813
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 1: There you go? All right, no problem, Courtney, I got it,

814
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: And listen, I got nothing in love for Kevin Bowen.

815
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: And there are worse things I can be called, so

816
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: that's cool, and I worked with them, so I turn.

817
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: I understand the confusion. So I'm simply poking fun at you.

818
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: I'm not actually calling you out, all right, So what

819
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 1: do you.

820
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 8: Think I got on the downside with it? That's too

821
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 8: much money or a dude that's that's injured, injury prone.

822
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 2: I don't I don't see.

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00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 8: I don't see. Yeah, he had good season whatnot. But

824
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,720
Speaker 8: once you stopped, once you stopped the run from Jonathan Taylor,

825
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 8: you gotta depend on him.

826
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 7: And sometimes you can't depend on him.

827
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 6: He turns over the ball too much.

828
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Speaker 8: And to me, I was gonna say, for route, I

829
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 8: don't know what's wrong with going with Riley Leonard or

830
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 8: just going if you really want to try to save money,

831
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 8: and I know people gonna disagree with it, go get

832
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 8: Kyler Murray.

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00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: Now, I listen, Courtney, I think Murray Murray's intriguing. I

834
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: was at an event last night and the guy asked

835
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 1: me about Kyler Murray. Right, and tell me if this

836
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: makes sense, Courtney. Now, how old a fella are you?

837
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Speaker 6: Courtney thirty three?

838
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: Did you play football?

839
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:52,919
Speaker 8: I played a little bit, but not much.

840
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean right, Kyler Murray to me, Courtney, and

841
00:45:58,520 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 1: tell me if this makes sense.

842
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. This is just my feel on it.

843
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 1: Okay, Murray to a great extent, Richardson, I think a

844
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,240
Speaker 1: challenge Josh Allen had Josh Allen be a good example

845
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: two Courty in this. I think guys that have a

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00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:21,720
Speaker 1: natural athleticism that allows them their feet and their maneuverability

847
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: allows them to escape plays before all fire starts, because

848
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: they have that elite slipperiness, right. And so as a

849
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: result of that, the nuances of looking over a defense,

850
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 1: learning it, figuring out how to immediately audible out of

851
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: a lineup, and things like that is not instinctive or

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00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: even learned by them because they never have to learn it, right,

853
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 1: because they never have to resort to that. And I

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00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: feel like Shane Steichen is a cerebral coach that wants

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00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 1: out of his quarterback a computer programmer as opposed to

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00:46:55,920 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: an athletically programmed guy, and so the nuances. He's never

857
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: had to sit there and go through that complete checkdown

858
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 1: all the way across the board from left to right

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00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 1: and back to left again. And I think Jones did

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00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,439
Speaker 1: that in camp better than did Richardson. And so that's

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Speaker 1: why Jones ended up getting the job. And I think

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00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: Murray is more in the Richardson or the Josh Allen

863
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: mold Of or Johnny Manziel is another good example. The

864
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: athleticism was so elite that they never had to necessarily

865
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: cerebrally process things in short amount of time. Does that

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00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: make sense?

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Speaker 8: But yeah, but Jones is kind of at lake to

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Speaker 8: he is.

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Speaker 1: He is, but I don't know that he's as reliant

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00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: on it, you know what I mean? He is. Jones

871
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: is kind of Courtney. Jones's kind of sneaky wheels, right,

872
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: I mean, you know what I mean.

873
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 8: Like he's really fast.

874
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: He is that, he is that, But I just I

875
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: appreciate the call Courtney. I think that Jones does have

876
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: that in him, but he's not as reliant on it.

877
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: It's not his first instinct to go to that that's

878
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: just kind of his it's more his survival instinct that

879
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 1: goes with that, and occasionally they incorporated in we'll fit

880
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: in Matthew, real quick, Matthew, what's.

881
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 6: Up hey, Jake?

882
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:13,399
Speaker 7: Not too much?

883
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: Are you just waking up today?

884
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 2: Matthew?

885
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, have you had a Java house yet today?

886
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 9: Well?

887
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 6: Not yet?

888
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 1: I thought that was okay, Well you need I know

889
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: that that's part of your wake up Routeine all right,

890
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: your thoughts. Daniel Jones like it, don't like it?

891
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 6: You know, I like it.

892
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 4: I'm pleasantly surprised the Colts were actually able to retain

893
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 4: both I.

894
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 7: Can't swear on the radio.

895
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 6: I know. I thought they were going.

896
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 7: To chuck it up.

897
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: Nice. I like to see. Here's the thing Joel A.

898
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: Erickson can learn from that, and the fact that the

899
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 1: conscientiousness right to make sure that you're tiptoeing around that.

900
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: Joe could have used that a little bit more. I agree.

901
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: I think there were a lot of people that it

902
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: seemed to fade a complee that they were going to

903
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 1: go oh for two. But that did not happen, and

904
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: that is the good with it. This is not just

905
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: the only big news of the day. There's also big

906
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 1: news in basketball. We'll get to that other side. Christian

907
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: RASMI sent an hour from now Bruce Weber from Chicago

908
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 1: in just over an.

909
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 2: Hour and a half.

910
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 1: You can, oftentimes in sport look at something that takes

911
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: place and based on it, either determine what is next

912
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: or determine how an event was influenced by something that

913
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: had already happened. And in the case of the Colts,

914
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,479
Speaker 1: I think it is very safe to say that we

915
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: were and our assumptions, our instinct, our intuition a little

916
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: bit redundant there. We're all correct in this regard. We

917
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: had a very distinct feeling that it was inevitable that

918
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: something was going to be done beyond just the transition

919
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: tag with Daniel Jones as soon as Alec Pierce signed,

920
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:10,760
Speaker 1: because not only did Alec Pierce, upon his agreement, state

921
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 1: that he was under the impression that Daniel Jones would

922
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 1: be locked in, but he had said at the end

923
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: of the season that Daniel Jones being locked in was

924
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: a critical piece in whether or not Alec Pierce wanted

925
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: to be here. And if you think about market value

926
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: for Alec Pierce, the Colts got Alec Pierce basically they

927
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily get a hometown discount. But for a guy

928
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: that could have entered into free agency and probably been

929
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: the prize possession of NFL free agency, maybe not named

930
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson, Alec Pierce got the Colts. They did not

931
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: get into a bidding war, and he could have created one.

932
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: But the second that he agreed to terms with the Colts,

933
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,479
Speaker 1: I think then we had our indication that that meant

934
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones it was inevitable that something was going to

935
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: get done. And we now know two year, eighty eight million,

936
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: and you know, we don't know the breakdown of the contract.

937
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: The next piece for the Colts would be and this

938
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: one seems like he could get big money elsewhere and

939
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens with Nick Cross. That's probably the

940
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: best player the Colts have that others could be in

941
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: the running for that. We have yet to see where

942
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: that shakes out. But that's where things stand. If you

943
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: are just joining us on the program today, Thank you, Eddie.

944
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones has signed a two year deal, so it

945
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: goes beyond just the one year transition tag. The other story,

946
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 1: of course, that we have been talking about is the

947
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 1: fact that Trey Hendrickson, the talented thirty one year old

948
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: edge rusher out of the Cincinnati Bengals who played for

949
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: lou and Arumo, was available and it looked like, in fact,

950
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 1: the Colts were willing to give twenty five million per

951
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 1: year to Trey Hendrickson, and he seemed very interested in

952
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: that offer. But the Baltimore Ravens nullified their trade for

953
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 1: Max Crosby of the Raiders by saying that he failed

954
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:39,439
Speaker 1: the physical and as a result of that, they then

955
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:45,280
Speaker 1: pivoted their attention to Hendrickson and gave him a twenty

956
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: eight million dollar per year offer, which seemingly priced the

957
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: Colts out of it, and he went to Baltimore and

958
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: very shortly thereafter the deal with Daniel Jones. Now, the

959
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: same thing that I said earlier came to my mind

960
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: when this all came about, and it was literally I

961
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: was walking in today. It started out today started out great. Anyway,

962
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 1: It's been a great day all the way around. Eddie

963
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: and I walked in today and Ron and Nate and

964
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: the great folks from Chicago's Pizza were right here with

965
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: fresh pizza for us. We made huge friends with the

966
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 1: sales department because they went up there as well, and Eddie,

967
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you those I'm not kidding you. Those

968
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: pizzas lasted as long on the free agent food market

969
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,760
Speaker 1: around here as like Lebron James did in the summer

970
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: of the Decision.

971
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 2: Right, you're telling me, I was in here prepping for

972
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 2: the show, getting everything ready for you, and uh, you

973
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 2: asked me if I wanted someone said, Ya'll get it

974
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 2: into many when I'm done. Carrie, the sales executive with

975
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 2: Chicago's asked me the same thing. I said, don't worry

976
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 2: about it, I'll get it. I go out there. There

977
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 2: were one There was one slice of pizza left on

978
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:03,720
Speaker 2: the deep dish for the meat and a one slice

979
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 2: of the traditional crust.

980
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: When it comes to the Chicago's pizza that land in

981
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: that works over at IBC, he was basically the Ravens.

982
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,439
Speaker 1: He swooped in at the last minute and stole away

983
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: the goods. Right, That's exactly what happened. But nonetheless fabulous

984
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: pizza from Chicago's today very much appreciated and always happy

985
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: to be partnered with Chicago's Pizza. But Chris Ballard on

986
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: a couple of occasions, you're a business sponsor with us.

987
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: Please reach out to Jay Query.

988
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 2: That's right.

989
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: We're happy to partner with any business that would like

990
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: to be part of this Dog and Pony show. Chris

991
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: Ballard on a couple of occasions now has been saved

992
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: from himself to an extent. The first example that comes

993
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: to mind for me is, and it's easy to forget this,

994
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: but the Josh McDaniels higher. While at the time I

995
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: understand and it wasn't a bad decision in the moment

996
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 1: to hire Josh McDaniels, is it McDaniels or McDaniel. I

997
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: always forget McDaniels. I went to school with Camra McDaniel,

998
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: and I always in who's just a great teammate.

999
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 2: And there's a Jake McDaniel that works in IBC in

1000
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:23,800
Speaker 2: the newsroom.

1001
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 1: Really yeah, Now that guy's a cool fella. Yeah, he

1002
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 1: went to you Indy, he was was he known as

1003
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: the cool guy around campus? I don't know he was

1004
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: after me because that's a that's a legacy you got

1005
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: to carry up to with that name. But anyway, Josh McDaniels,

1006
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 1: when when Ballard made that decision and then and where

1007
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: the Colts aired, whether it was Ballard or someone else

1008
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: is announcing that hire before they had a contract signed,

1009
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,240
Speaker 1: and then the egg on the face of Chris Ballard

1010
00:55:56,280 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 1: of having to stand up and basically say, we high

1011
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 1: to coach, we were bringing in a coach, and he

1012
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 1: at the last minute opted for elsewhere, and so they

1013
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,399
Speaker 1: had to then turn around and basically it fell into

1014
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 1: their lap. He got saved a little bit because Frank

1015
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 1: Reich fell into his lap and Jim Mersey had a

1016
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 1: relationship and they knew him and he'd been here before,

1017
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: and so you turn around and everybody's like, why did

1018
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 1: they just go with that to begin with? And so

1019
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:33,399
Speaker 1: it worked out in the end, it worked out, and

1020
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: at the quarterback position, Andrew Luck retires on him Kudos

1021
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: to Chris Ballad and the Colts for making the trade

1022
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: for Jacoby Brissett just before that, not knowing Andrew Luck

1023
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: was going to retire. But when it happened, you're like, man,

1024
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 1: thank goodness, they had traded for a guy that's at

1025
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: least been in the league and can carry the team

1026
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 1: for a year at the quarterback position. And then you

1027
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 1: go into it and you're wondering what's going to happen

1028
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: at the quarterback spot and then guess what they just

1029
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 1: it fell into their lap. It just worked itself out.

1030
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: It worked itself out. Where what a relief, We've got

1031
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: our guy. And so in that form they get you know,

1032
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, and then it happened again. You know, they

1033
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 1: went with Carson Wentz that obviously didn't work out. But

1034
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: then at the eleventh hour, Matt Ryan falls into their

1035
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: lap and he was a statue at that point. And

1036
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: finally they're forced to go into the draft and Anthony

1037
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: Richardson doesn't work out, and you're thinking, what in the

1038
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: world are they going to do? This guy's been hurt.

1039
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: Is he ever going to learn the position? Is he

1040
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 1: going to get it going? And just when you're about

1041
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: to throw in the towel on the Anthony Richardson experiment,

1042
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: guess what happens. But again, it works itself out. And

1043
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: when it works itself out, it works itself out in

1044
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: the form of they go out and they get Daniel Jones.

1045
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: And yet I do believe that when they signed Daniel

1046
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: Jones they knew that was going to be the guy

1047
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 1: and they were already done with Richardson. But Daniel Jones

1048
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 1: plays at a very high level and once again falls

1049
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: into their lap. That again, I believe has happened because

1050
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: of the fact that they were about to give twenty

1051
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: five mil to Trey Hendrickson per year, which I don't

1052
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: agree with. I know he's a wonderful player, but you

1053
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: know what, at some point, at some point, at some point,

1054
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: the Colts are going to be forced to have to

1055
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 1: build their own pass rush on their own. They've got

1056
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: to quit relying on other people's work and other people's seconds,

1057
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,439
Speaker 1: and they've got to go and do it on their own.

1058
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 1: And I know we can fold our arms and cross

1059
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: him and look at the camera with the like sinister

1060
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: laugh with the rosy cheeks while the team website is

1061
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: filming us on draft night and make fun of everybody

1062
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 1: because the best edge rusher in the draft just fell

1063
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: to our lap and we got the first defensive player

1064
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 1: in the draft, and they still went with the wrong one.

1065
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 1: But Leatu Latsu, for all of the talk that you

1066
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 1: told us about how this was the guy, and I

1067
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: bought in hook Liden Sinker.

1068
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 2: I did.

1069
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 1: I thought he was going to be an elite level

1070
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 1: player out of the womb, and he may still be.

1071
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 1: But if you are talking about and to the point

1072
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: of literally on the verge of signing an edge rusher

1073
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: that's thirty one years old for twenty five million per year.

1074
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 1: If you are on that verge, that means that the

1075
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: guy that you've got that is still at a rookie

1076
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: deal in Lyatu Latu, you either don't believe in or

1077
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 1: you think he needs big time help. And if you

1078
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 1: want your young players to deliver, if you want your

1079
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: young promises to be fulfilled, if you want your expectations

1080
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: and your laugh and your confidence on draft night to

1081
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: be proven correct, then at some point you got to

1082
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 1: force a guy to walk on his own and going

1083
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: out and getting a player who's played elsewhere, albeit for

1084
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:09,959
Speaker 1: your decordinator at a different stop. Is what that's doing

1085
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: is potentially I'm not saying definitively, but potentially limiting or

1086
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 1: handcuffing or stunting the growth of your own players. And

1087
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 1: at some point the culture going to have to put

1088
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: in the oven their own pass rush edge rush and

1089
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 1: eventually pull out some sort of a meal that we

1090
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 1: all can enjoy. Because it hasn't worked. They've tried a

1091
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 1: billion times. I'm sorry. Chris Ballard has areas where he's

1092
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 1: a good general manager, a good executive. I don't dispute

1093
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 1: that he knows more football and has forgotten more football

1094
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 1: than I'll ever know, sure, no question. But even I,

1095
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,439
Speaker 1: as a guy that analyzes ball scores for a living

1096
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 1: and makes bad analogies, even I can tell that the

1097
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 1: one area that it's his white whale that he has

1098
01:00:55,640 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 1: never ever been able to fulfill is selecting, analyzing, scouting

1099
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 1: and getting NFL out of the womb edge rush that

1100
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 1: develops within his own program, his own franchise and become players.

1101
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: And you've got to quit going out and just saving

1102
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 1: yourself by getting somebody else's work and plugging it in

1103
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 1: in short term basis, which is what they would have

1104
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 1: been doing with Henry, wonderful player. You'd be a fool

1105
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: to not say this guy would make a difference in

1106
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 1: your I get it, but for how long and at

1107
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 1: what cost? And at what price?

1108
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 2: Tag?

1109
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 1: I believe personally they dodged one here, not because he

1110
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 1: would not have been a good player, not because he

1111
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 1: would have been effective, but because of what he represents,

1112
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 1: which is a continued desperate plea to somebody else to

1113
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 1: throw you a dinghy instead of learning how to swim

1114
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 1: on your own. In that area, and that's what That's

1115
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 1: the one thing in this regard that I think actually

1116
01:01:56,800 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 1: oddly is like this triumph for the Colts. And then obviously,

1117
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 1: even though the money may not have been completely attached,

1118
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 1: it is my opinion that there's no coincidence that once

1119
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 1: you learned that the Hendricks thing was not going to happen,

1120
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 1: an hour later it's like, Okay, well, now we have

1121
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 1: a deal with Daniel Jones two year eighty eight up

1122
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: to one hundred, and that's where things stand.

1123
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 2: How many past rushers has Chris Paller drafted? Jake? Do

1124
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 2: you know the number?

1125
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 1: I'll go with, Boy, we were talking all rounds.

1126
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, most of these, all of them actually have been first, second,

1127
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 2: or third round picks. I'll say six. You are close.

1128
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 2: It's eight. He has drafted eight pass rushers and his tenure. Now,

1129
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 2: let's do you have to live in seven of them

1130
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 2: are in the first or second? Do you have the list?

1131
01:02:57,640 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 2: I do?

1132
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 1: Okay, Quitty pay is one, right? What would you grade

1133
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 1: Quidy Pay a C? I would even go as far

1134
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 1: as to say a d Okay Taekwon Lewis Taekwon Lewis, Yes,

1135
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 1: what would you grade him a? C probably Okay, who

1136
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 1: else we got?

1137
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 2: He got Terrell Basham. He was the first one that

1138
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 2: the Colt selected twenty seventeen round three.

1139
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 1: Eleven career sacks. That's a that's a D minus. Okay,

1140
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 1: that's a F all right D minus. Yeah, Komoko Terree

1141
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 1: twelve career sacks. He was drafted in the second round

1142
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen.

1143
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 2: That's a D. Okay. Ben Vannagu a second round pick,

1144
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 2: forty ninth overall, two and a half career sacks, that's a.

1145
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 1: That's an F okay, dioa dangbo. You let him walk

1146
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 1: in free agency. Now, hindsight's twenty twenty, but at the

1147
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 1: time you were like, hey, this.

1148
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 2: Guy can play insight. Are we going C plus?

1149
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 6: Sure?

1150
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 2: Okay, lat too, I would say the Jerry is still

1151
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:14,959
Speaker 2: out on the grade.

1152
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: We'll go with incorplete, We'll go with incomplete and JT too,

1153
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 1: we will allow incomplete or what are we giving that?

1154
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 2: Incomplete?

1155
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 1: Okay, so so far based on that based on the one, two, three, four, five,

1156
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 1: six that week in grade okay, six point seven divide A.

1157
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 1: But you're looking at a one point one, you're looking

1158
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 1: at a D average D average. You can't keep piecemealing it. Eventually,

1159
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 1: you've got to pull up your own bootstraps. Uh Pacers

1160
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 1: last night losers in Sacramento. That's their winners. Baby Pacers

1161
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 1: are winners because they Now, what are you checking your

1162
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 1: head for?

1163
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 2: That game was just so funny last night. They were

1164
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 2: up twenty in the third quarter.

1165
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 1: What lineup did they have in when they were up twenty?

1166
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 2: I can't they had the starters in there, which would

1167
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 2: have been Cam Jones. It was Shepherd starting last time.

1168
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 2: I can't remember Cam Jones, Aeron E Smith, Jay Huff,

1169
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 2: Obi Topping. I forget the fifth starter, you know the.

1170
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 1: At that point? Did they make up roster? Did they

1171
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 1: Jared Locker? Come on, Eddie, did they change did they

1172
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 1: change the in my apologies, I did not. I had

1173
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 1: an event last night and then I was doing something else.

1174
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 1: I did not see the game. Actually it's not available

1175
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 1: on my cable. Oddly now, all of a sudden, that's

1176
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 1: like a six week ago change. But Eddie, did they

1177
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 1: did they make the ross? Did they change the lneup

1178
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:52,959
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter when Sacramento came.

1179
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 2: Roaring back, Well, there was certainly a different five on

1180
01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 2: the floor during that key stretch in the game that

1181
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 2: five would be it was Cam Jones, Ben Shepherd, Kobe Brown.

1182
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 2: I can't remember if it was huff or Potter, and

1183
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 2: then Jalen Slawson maybe. Okay, Okay, no, it's Quentin Jackson.

1184
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 2: I like Quentin Jackson. Actually, but.

1185
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna again say, Okay, here's the lineup I just found.

1186
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 1: It is that new Dustin to Proact tweeted about it

1187
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 1: last night. Quentin Jackson, Taylor, Peter Jarris Walker, Taylor Brown,

1188
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 1: mikeah Prter, Mike Harter.

1189
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, so listen, I get it. I get it. Do

1190
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 2: you need to clear your throat there? You're choking on

1191
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:54,919
Speaker 2: some like, uh bacon bit from your Chicago's pizza. Sound

1192
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 2: like you had a little fun back there.

1193
01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 1: I just I was starting to think of choke and

1194
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 1: I was worried that the Pacers were going to choke

1195
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 1: away their opportunity at a top four pick. The I

1196
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 1: think people are still with it and on board because

1197
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 1: they know what's in play. Like I'll be at the

1198
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 1: game tomorrow. There are probably be eighteen thousand people there.

1199
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 1: It really is crazy, considering the fact that the losses

1200
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 1: just keep piling up. But it's because people know exactly

1201
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 1: what's going on, and yeah, there's an art in tanking

1202
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 1: a little bit. I think, by the way, Eddie, I

1203
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:33,919
Speaker 1: think there might be a naked guy well walking down.

1204
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 2: The street out there.

1205
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 1: I don't want to I'm not trying to, you know,

1206
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 1: create Eddie. Eddie has got enough out of the window, Eddie.

1207
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 1: Eddie has gone to the window and has disappeared. I

1208
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 1: now don't know where Eddie is, but I think just

1209
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 1: shirtless Jake, Okay, I want to make sure is it

1210
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 1: Are they flesh colored pants? Is that what going on there?

1211
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 1: I looked up, I looked over outside, and I thought

1212
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 1: for sure I saw it. Maybe I'm watching too much

1213
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 1: of that naked attraction.

1214
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 2: But I think on TV you can see i'd seen

1215
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 2: in his trousers.

1216
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 1: I've never seen Eddie get up faster than I did

1217
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 1: when I said there's a naked guy walking around outside, Eddie.

1218
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 1: Eddie got out of there like Ussein, bolt.

1219
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:23,799
Speaker 2: Out of the block.

1220
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 1: What what what was going on there? I was just like,

1221
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 1: no way, Yeah, Wow, that was that was something there.

1222
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 1: That was that was elite level movement right there. If

1223
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:38,599
Speaker 1: we can get Leatu Latu to move that quickly out,

1224
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 1: you know, if.

1225
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 2: Chris Ballard saw me, well that get off time, I'd

1226
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 2: be a third.

1227
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:45,520
Speaker 1: Round pick, buddy. Yeah, yeah, for sure. That was impressive.

1228
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 2: Uh.

1229
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 1: Either way, though, I think we know what's in play here.

1230
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 1: And for the Pacers now, they have the worst record

1231
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 1: in the NBA, and they sit again, whether they have

1232
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 1: the worst, second worst, third worst, or fourth worst record

1233
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 1: in the NBA, their odds are going to be the same,

1234
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 1: but it's at fifty two percent that they will have

1235
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 1: a pick in the top four. Otherwise it goes to

1236
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 1: the Clippers. And unless it's like tenth and that I'm

1237
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 1: telling you, I'm absolutely emphatically telling you that they are

1238
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 1: keenly aware of that, and the rest of the league

1239
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:28,599
Speaker 1: is keenly aware of that. The rest of the league

1240
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:31,639
Speaker 1: is aware of the fact that the Pacers may well

1241
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:39,839
Speaker 1: have flipped Benedict Mathern into an aj Debonsa and Zubot's combo.

1242
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 2: You know what, it's time for, Jake. We haven't done

1243
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 2: this in them about two weeks, Okay, in celebration of

1244
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 2: going from second worst to worst record, I think we

1245
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 2: need to go to Tankethon.

1246
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 1: Oh, that's that's an outstanding call here. We need to

1247
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 1: do a Tankethon updates. So we will do a Tankethon

1248
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 1: here for those that are unfamiliar. What we here is

1249
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 1: we do a spin through the virtual Tankathon machine to

1250
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 1: find out where exactly it is that the pacers would

1251
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 1: find themselves, where they would slot, what they would do?

1252
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:15,120
Speaker 1: Do you happen to have the sounder ready just in

1253
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 1: the event here of the picks?

1254
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 2: Here we go. I wouldn't propose this idea if I

1255
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 2: didn't have the sound of ready. Are we doing it

1256
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 2: on the first spin?

1257
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 1: Well, let's see how the first man turns out. Let

1258
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 1: me know when to hit it. With the fifth pick

1259
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 1: and the twenty twenty six NBA draft, this is rigged.

1260
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:46,440
Speaker 1: The Los Angeles Clippers.

1261
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 2: Rigged Keaton Wagler.

1262
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:50,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be who it is I'm assuming, right.

1263
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, or Keiston Flemings from Houston one of those guys.

1264
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 1: Select Kingston Flemings from the University of Houston Art.

1265
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 2: Should we do more cuff? Should we do best two

1266
01:10:58,920 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 2: out of three?

1267
01:10:59,479 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 6: Just to be so?

1268
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do that all right? So here goes the

1269
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 1: second With the fifth pick and the twenty twenty six

1270
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 1: NBA Draft, the Los Angeles Clippers still select what Kingston

1271
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:19,639
Speaker 1: Flemings from the University of Houston.

1272
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 2: Third time is the charm? Jay? Come on, let's run

1273
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 2: about all right. Here we go.

1274
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 1: With the fifth pick. Okay, I did you not? Okay,

1275
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 1: we gotta go one more time. Eventually we gotta get

1276
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 1: it to work here right on, Yeah, we see.

1277
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 2: If it's let me just see if that's if it's

1278
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:40,559
Speaker 2: a if it's oh wait a minute, hold on, let's

1279
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 2: see if it's a computer. Okay, I'll do my I

1280
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 2: gotta pull it up for me. Here we go. Okay,

1281
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 2: we'll sim lotterie with the fifth pick.

1282
01:11:57,520 --> 01:11:58,599
Speaker 1: This is not going well.

1283
01:11:58,680 --> 01:11:59,639
Speaker 2: Is there just something?

1284
01:11:59,760 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 5: Okay?

1285
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:03,720
Speaker 1: Hold on, since they've changed the draft lottery odds and Eddie, Eddie,

1286
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:05,800
Speaker 1: I need you and the people of Indianapolis. I need

1287
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 1: everybody right now. If you're driving, don't close your eyes,

1288
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 1: but simply a moment of silence, if you will.

1289
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:13,639
Speaker 2: I want you to repeat after me. Eddie. Okay, you ready?

1290
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:19,719
Speaker 1: Yes, I I insert your own name, insert your own name, no, no, no,

1291
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 1: use your name. Edward Garrison hereby hereby request request to

1292
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 1: the basketball gods, to the basketball gods, please let please

1293
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 1: let this turn this turn of the simulation of the

1294
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 1: simulation determined, determine where the Pacers, where the Pacers will select,

1295
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 1: will select, and disregard those previous nine times.

1296
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 2: And disregard to those previous nine times.

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Speaker 1: Okay, now that we've done that, and hopefully the audience

1298
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 1: did the same, here we go.

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01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 2: Well it didn't work for you, it worked for me.

1300
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 1: I hope that kid from Houston has property in Manhattan Beach.

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01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 1: I worked for me, Jake, I'm getting fifth every single

1302
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:10,639
Speaker 1: first pick series. Okay, boom, here we go, Eddie. With

1303
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:15,680
Speaker 1: the first pick and the twenty twenty six NBA Draft,

1304
01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 1: the Indiana Pacers select. Would you like to guess which player?

1305
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 1: They say it would be? AJ Devonsa AJ Debanza from

1306
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:25,600
Speaker 1: Brigham Young University.

1307
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:28,759
Speaker 2: How did he not win Big twelve Player of the Year.

1308
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 1: Because they were playing on that television screen and everybody's

1309
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:36,679
Speaker 1: eyes were bamboozled into not knowing. I mean, CoA Pete's

1310
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:39,719
Speaker 1: the best player in Arizona, not the Bradley kid. Anyway,

1311
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 1: what are we doing Big twelve? The I'm telling you

1312
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 1: if the Pacers it is my belief.

1313
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 2: And by the way, how was a first team of

1314
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:51,600
Speaker 2: a conference team got twelve guys on it? Can you

1315
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 2: answer that? For me because that's Big twelve. Because okay, the.

1316
01:13:57,120 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 1: Big ten's gonna have eighteen. Listen the Bonsa. If the

1317
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 1: Pacers have the first pick, it will be de Bonsa.

1318
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 1: Now that was that was some ridiculous, redundant Shenanigan of

1319
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 1: our NBA mock draft.

1320
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:15,599
Speaker 2: Well, last night you got to remember, Jake, the team

1321
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 2: that's had the worst record since the they've changed the

1322
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 2: lottery odds in the formats, never gotten it has never

1323
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:23,679
Speaker 2: gotten the first pick. Yeah, they always fell to five.

1324
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:28,599
Speaker 2: That was obviously all mock. But last night in Sport

1325
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 2: there was a mockery. We'll explain and Christian Rasmi sid

1326
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 2: in thirty.

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01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 1: We're still here ready, everything going okay? Yeah, I had

1328
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 1: had a nice on computer, have a meltdown. I had

1329
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,679
Speaker 1: a nice song queued up, Jake, and I was clicking

1330
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 1: back to get to the tab and instead of opening

1331
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 1: what song is it? Do you want me to do it?

1332
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 1: I can do it if you'd like, I can. I

1333
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 1: can hum a few bars. I don't know if you

1334
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 1: know this or not. I'm a very talented musician.

1335
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 2: Every rose has its thorn, you know.

1336
01:14:56,080 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 1: It starts out with he gives a sigh, woke up once.

1337
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:06,760
Speaker 1: I don't know the words, though, did the stealer the nine?

1338
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 1: See we bost like close together, something about like we're

1339
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 1: so cold inside? This is this is basically exactly how

1340
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 1: it would have sounded. Right, That's about what I sounded like,

1341
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:31,839
Speaker 1: isn't I think we need to send listeners Scott Jacob

1342
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 1: inside to uh the draft lottery.

1343
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 6: Of something I did in my woods not come out right?

1344
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 4: Do?

1345
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:45,680
Speaker 1: I tried not to hurt you, do I try?

1346
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:47,799
Speaker 2: But I guess that's why.

1347
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:51,520
Speaker 1: They say a every rose.

1348
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:51,920
Speaker 2: Has its though.

1349
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:55,719
Speaker 1: See that's right there. I gotta tell you something, Okay.

1350
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's over warm outside.

1351
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 2: I think it's cool and off it's starting to becoming

1352
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 2: a little dark out there.

1353
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 1: Well it is that, but nonetheless, somewhere on the northeast side,

1354
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 1: Shannon just melted, Okay, okay, what about okay? Ever since

1355
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:20,759
Speaker 1: ever since, ever since Eddie got out of the chair

1356
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 1: naked walking down the street. We're off the rails now, all.

1357
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:28,639
Speaker 2: Right, it's okay, right, all right, all right?

1358
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:30,839
Speaker 1: So what were you saying about tickets?

1359
01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:33,640
Speaker 2: I didn't say anything about tickets yet. I said that

1360
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:36,640
Speaker 2: listener Scott on the text line needs to be the

1361
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:40,600
Speaker 2: representative at the draft lottery because obviously Jake, one of

1362
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:43,760
Speaker 2: us can't do it. Because the failure that just was

1363
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:46,800
Speaker 2: trying to get the Pacers the top pick. Scott Texans said,

1364
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 2: I did ten simulations, got the top four pick five times.

1365
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 1: Really, yes, the Colts. By the way, before we get

1366
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 1: into what happened last night in the NBA, the Colts

1367
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 1: do have a new defensive end.

1368
01:16:58,600 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 2: Guess what.

1369
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:06,719
Speaker 1: Michael Clemens household name out of Texas A and M

1370
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 1: the one hundred and seventeenth pick in the fourth round

1371
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:15,559
Speaker 1: of twenty and twenty two most recently a New York Jet,

1372
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 1: joins the Colts on a two year contract. Just signed

1373
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:22,440
Speaker 1: seven and a half career sacks and two force fumbles

1374
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:27,439
Speaker 1: in the course of his career. Michael, by the way,

1375
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 1: began his college career at Cisco College. Are you familiar

1376
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 1: with Cisco College?

1377
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 2: I thought that was just a VPN application you put

1378
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 2: on desktops.

1379
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 1: He began at Cisco College. Do you want to get

1380
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 1: where would we guess Cisco College is. I'm gonna guess

1381
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 1: that's got it. I'm going to say it's in Abilene, Texas.

1382
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:49,360
Speaker 2: Where's kind of be in Texas for sure? Right?

1383
01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 1: I would think, yeah, he's a native of Texas and

1384
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 1: he ended up at ten. Oh, my goodness, you're right

1385
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 1: on the nose, total guests, I kid you not. That

1386
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:00,240
Speaker 1: has to be one of those things that some were

1387
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 1: in my life. I read about Cisco and it was

1388
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 1: in deep inside of my subconscious. It is in Abilene, Texas.

1389
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:09,719
Speaker 2: He fits right in with the track record of picks

1390
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:13,880
Speaker 2: by Chris Ballard Jake on the edge Rush category seven

1391
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:14,479
Speaker 2: and a half career.

1392
01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:16,599
Speaker 1: Sue, so I said, yeah, seven and a half.

1393
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 2: Baby.

1394
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:19,559
Speaker 1: Here are some of the notable people that have come

1395
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:22,640
Speaker 1: out of Cisco College. By the way, now I'm not

1396
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 1: saying that it's said that it's a bad thing, but

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01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,600
Speaker 1: he's not listed as one of the notable athletes to

1398
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 1: come out of Cisco College. They list Wayne on their website,

1399
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:37,839
Speaker 1: Wayne Coffee right, who percolated, John Davis, James Dixon, Bo Kelly,

1400
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:44,640
Speaker 1: Gary Morris, Randy Pippen, Matt Schaeffer, and Darryl Richardson.

1401
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 2: Do you look at his high school? Oh, that's a

1402
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:47,960
Speaker 2: that's an out.

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01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 1: If his high school doesn't list him as notable, he's

1404
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 1: the first one. He's the first one listed under notable alumni. Yeah,

1405
01:18:57,240 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 1: he is, and it's because it's alphabetizes. But yeah, how

1406
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 1: about that same high school as alex Orgy. Now that

1407
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 1: guy was fun the parties that guy threw there you go,

1408
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:14,400
Speaker 1: all right, last night, Bam out of Bayu with eighty three.

1409
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 1: Before we get into some of the absurdity of those numbers,

1410
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:30,640
Speaker 1: the one thing that jumped out at me, it's amazing

1411
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 1: to think that Bam out of by you do you

1412
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 1: happen to have the box score from last night? He

1413
01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 1: shot forty three free throws correct, Yeah, an NBA record,

1414
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 1: And late in the game they were up. I mean

1415
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 1: they scored one hundred and fifty points. They're playing Washington,

1416
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I know the Pacers had the worst record.

1417
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:51,639
Speaker 1: Washington's the worst franchise in the league at least as

1418
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:57,080
Speaker 1: of right now. Right, and yet with that, with all

1419
01:19:57,120 --> 01:20:01,680
Speaker 1: of that said, he shot forty three free throws. They

1420
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 1: had him late in the game, they were still they

1421
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 1: were like fouling people in order for him to get

1422
01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 1: the ball back to be able.

1423
01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 2: To shoot more.

1424
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 1: Right, he shot multiple threes. It is amazing to think

1425
01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 1: that if you take Bam out of Bayou, who's a

1426
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 1: top what player in the NBA?

1427
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 2: I mean he's a top I think top fifty easily.

1428
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 1: I mean he's a Team USA guy, right, Yes, he's

1429
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:25,880
Speaker 1: a top probably twenty five, right.

1430
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:27,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1431
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 1: And yet if you take that game he had last

1432
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 1: night and add to it his season average per game,

1433
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 1: he eclipses Wilt Chamberlain by one basket.

1434
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:45,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, averaging what eighteen point three points private last night

1435
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:47,960
Speaker 2: he averages I think nineteen game. Now it's up to twenty.

1436
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would hope right now, not that anybody cares,

1437
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 1: but I will tell you in my fantasy I'm in

1438
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:56,839
Speaker 1: the semi finals of my fantasy basketball league and I'm undefeated.

1439
01:20:56,920 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 2: Do you have Bam out of Bayou the guy I'm playing?

1440
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:00,879
Speaker 2: Does yay?

1441
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:02,360
Speaker 6: That hurt?

1442
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:03,599
Speaker 1: I'm in a bit of a hole here.

1443
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:05,760
Speaker 2: That hurt.

1444
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 1: We can get into the specifics of the absurdity of

1445
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 1: the number of free throws and the way that this

1446
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 1: was And I have no idea, Eddie, how or why

1447
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:21,720
Speaker 1: or where it came to be that this is the

1448
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 1: guy that that it was decided would be the one.

1449
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:29,639
Speaker 1: You know, hey, let's go out and get bam out

1450
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 1: of by you in eighty three point night. I mean,

1451
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 1: it felt orchestrated by his franchise to an extent, he.

1452
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:38,519
Speaker 2: Had right, yeah, forty three at halftime. He said with

1453
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:42,360
Speaker 2: Scott Van Pel last Night Jake that once he got

1454
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 2: to halftime, they started discussing, Hey, the record of Lebron

1455
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 2: was sixty one, and then he hit it at the

1456
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:51,599
Speaker 2: end of the third. They're like, well, I mean, I'm here,

1457
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm ever gonna have this chance again.

1458
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 2: I get that to an extent, So let's go for Kobe.

1459
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:06,040
Speaker 2: And here's the thing unpopular opinion here. The other day

1460
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:08,880
Speaker 2: on the expost Twitter, I asked people to share their

1461
01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:13,639
Speaker 2: most common unpopular opinion, or their most their strongest unpopular opinion,

1462
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:17,519
Speaker 2: or they're simply most unpopular opinion.

1463
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:26,959
Speaker 1: Mine one of them would be this. I understand the emotion,

1464
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 1: the sentimentality and all of that that goes with Kobe

1465
01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 1: Bryant's final game as an NBA player, But do you

1466
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:41,840
Speaker 1: happen to have what did Kobe have in his final game?

1467
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 1: Sixty And I know that because of everything that goes

1468
01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 1: into Kobe Bryant, that you have to be careful of

1469
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:50,479
Speaker 1: what you say about him, and he has a beloved figure.

1470
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 1: Now I do personally believe and I mean this respectfully,

1471
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:56,160
Speaker 1: because he's a great player.

1472
01:22:57,120 --> 01:22:58,639
Speaker 2: He had sixty in his final game.

1473
01:22:58,680 --> 01:22:59,679
Speaker 1: Do you have the box score?

1474
01:22:59,760 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 2: Yes?

1475
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 1: How many shots? Fifty fifty shots?

1476
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 2: Yes? Five? Zero? How many? What do he hit?

1477
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:10,719
Speaker 1: Twenty two shot forty four percent. He was twenty two

1478
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 1: of fifty from the floor, six of twenty one from downtown. Okay,

1479
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:23,960
Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant and I have been I understand that people

1480
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 1: are going to disagree with.

1481
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:27,120
Speaker 2: Me here twelve free throws attempted.

1482
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 1: I don't think there is And I still maintain this,

1483
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:35,519
Speaker 1: and I mean this respectfully because he was a great

1484
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:38,960
Speaker 1: player and a great competitor and had an unbelievable work ethic.

1485
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 1: And there were a lot of things about Kobe Bryant

1486
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 1: from a basketball standpoint to admire. You know, we can

1487
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:50,880
Speaker 1: get into the Colorado stuff. Notwithstanding, I mean there were,

1488
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:53,280
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, those charges were dropped. So I

1489
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:55,759
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just talking about as a basketball player,

1490
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:56,920
Speaker 1: great player.

1491
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:00,200
Speaker 2: I personally believe.

1492
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 1: That the tragic nature and the timing in terms of

1493
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:12,080
Speaker 1: where he was in life of his passing has elevated

1494
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:16,400
Speaker 1: his legacy for people. I think undeniably he is a

1495
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 1: top seven to twelve player in NBA history. But people

1496
01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:23,040
Speaker 1: that like automatically now think of him as a top

1497
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 1: three or five, He's not. It's not a disrespect to him,

1498
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:29,880
Speaker 1: it's because there are there are great players, there are

1499
01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 1: a lot of them. But having said that, the people

1500
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:37,720
Speaker 1: that I've noticed with the Bam Autabayou performance last night

1501
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 1: that seem to have the most exception to it are

1502
01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 1: loyalist to Kobe Bryant, And yet none of them want

1503
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 1: to point out that he got because you want to

1504
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 1: tout that he got a sixty point game in his

1505
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:56,439
Speaker 1: final performance as an NBA player, but he shot fifty

1506
01:24:56,720 --> 01:25:02,040
Speaker 1: times and missed twenty eight of them. That was an

1507
01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 1: orchestrated sixty point night. So you can't sit there and

1508
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:09,559
Speaker 1: jump up and down and discredit Bam out of byou

1509
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:12,759
Speaker 1: while giving and touting credit for Kobe Bryant's final performance

1510
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 1: as an NBA player, because they.

1511
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 2: Were both bunk.

1512
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:19,720
Speaker 1: I mean, Bam gets credit for what he did in

1513
01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:21,640
Speaker 1: that first half, no doubt about it, and he's a

1514
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:25,720
Speaker 1: great player. But yes, that forty three. How in the world, Eddie,

1515
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 1: I didn't see the game per se, and I know

1516
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 1: you were working the pacer game. How does one get

1517
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:32,400
Speaker 1: forty three free throw a temps.

1518
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 2: I wish I could answer that question for you, Jake,

1519
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 2: I wish I could.

1520
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 1: He averages what seven free throws a game?

1521
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, somewhere around that.

1522
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:43,240
Speaker 1: Yes, he gets six times that amount in one game.

1523
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 6: Uh huh.

1524
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:52,160
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, uh huh. Let's be real. But

1525
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:55,320
Speaker 1: that was quite the buzz last night. It also shows

1526
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:59,439
Speaker 1: just how remarkable and there are a lot of things

1527
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 1: about that Wilt hundred point game that add.

1528
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:04,320
Speaker 2: To the legacy of it.

1529
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 1: For example, it was in Hershey, Pennsylvania, not in New York,

1530
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:13,320
Speaker 1: not in Philly, not in San Francisco. It was in Hershey, Pennsylvania,

1531
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:16,439
Speaker 1: and so therefore not as many people saw it. It's

1532
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:18,320
Speaker 1: you know, there's one hundred thousand people that claimed they

1533
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:21,800
Speaker 1: were there, et cetera. Did he really get one hundred?

1534
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:26,320
Speaker 1: I mean there are a lot that's a great conspiracy theory,

1535
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:29,000
Speaker 1: basketball fan talking point.

1536
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:32,840
Speaker 2: He took twenty nine free throws in the second half

1537
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:36,040
Speaker 2: you're talking about, bam. Yeah, yeah, that's what I mean,

1538
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:37,599
Speaker 2: sixteen in the fourth quarter.

1539
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 1: Were they fouling him? I mean intentionally without watching I

1540
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 1: have no idea, you know what's remarkable with that? And

1541
01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:51,120
Speaker 1: I think I'm fairly certain I'm correct in this.

1542
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:53,800
Speaker 2: He played all but the final one minute in eight se.

1543
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:55,719
Speaker 1: Well, that's the other thing that's absurd, right, I mean,

1544
01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:00,559
Speaker 1: I think I'm correct when I say this, speaking of

1545
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:06,599
Speaker 1: weird things like that. I'll have to look this up,

1546
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:10,639
Speaker 1: and we're going to test the memory of Jake Querry here.

1547
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:15,040
Speaker 1: But in the nineteen ninety two NCAA tournament, when Indiana

1548
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 1: went to the final four and they beat LSU in

1549
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:25,880
Speaker 1: that tournament, and when they beat LSU and Shaq Alan

1550
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:30,679
Speaker 1: Henderson kept hitting baseline jump shots. But Shaq had thirty

1551
01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 1: six in that game against Indiana, his last college game,

1552
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:41,000
Speaker 1: he had thirty six points. I'm fairly certain. I'm fairly

1553
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 1: certain on this, and I don't even know if that

1554
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:47,840
Speaker 1: box score exists online, but I'm fairly certain in that

1555
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:50,080
Speaker 1: game that Shaquille O'Neil was twelve for twelve from the

1556
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 1: free throw line. Indiana basically did hack a shack in

1557
01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 1: the second half just to keep it at Bay and

1558
01:27:56,960 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 1: Shaq it was twelve of twelve from the free throw lin.

1559
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:03,280
Speaker 1: I don't think I hallucinated that. I think that's true.

1560
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:05,840
Speaker 2: Jake. You know how our listeners are just like you,

1561
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:09,320
Speaker 2: clever witty. Oh of course educated. Thank you for saying

1562
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 2: that about me. I appreciate You're welcome. This is from

1563
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:14,559
Speaker 2: flashing yellow lights on Dan Jones row. This is what

1564
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:16,960
Speaker 2: this person want to be known by on the text line.

1565
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 2: Hopefully Clemens from Cisco College knows how to be slippery

1566
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:23,280
Speaker 2: like oil through blockers on his way to the QB

1567
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:29,639
Speaker 2: and not sticky like syrup. That's well played. Yeah, that's

1568
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 2: well played. That's I mean.

1569
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:35,600
Speaker 1: But clearly at this point he has not been very slippery, right.

1570
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:37,640
Speaker 1: I want to give away some tickets, Jake, Sure, what

1571
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 1: do we have?

1572
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 2: We've got Indiana Sports Corp NCA fan Fast four pack

1573
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:44,280
Speaker 2: of tickets to give away. This is for Friday the

1574
01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 2: April third through Monday, April six. It's got a sports

1575
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:53,760
Speaker 2: wonderland of interactive activities, especially special celebrity and athlete appearances,

1576
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 2: autograph signings are much more. And I think I just

1577
01:28:56,439 --> 01:29:01,679
Speaker 2: saw this announcement today Jake twin Win pilots, Zach Brownbran

1578
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:05,799
Speaker 2: and Meghan Maroney to rock the twenty twenty six music

1579
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 2: festival for the for March Madness.

1580
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:09,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot going on for that. It's gonna

1581
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:12,000
Speaker 1: be awesome. Yeah, tons of events, and there's a surprise

1582
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:14,680
Speaker 1: artist to be announced as well. So how are we

1583
01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:15,799
Speaker 1: giving away said tickets?

1584
01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:18,040
Speaker 2: I feel like the text line is an easy, easy

1585
01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:18,880
Speaker 2: way for us to do this.

1586
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:22,120
Speaker 1: JK two three, nine, ten, seventy is the text line?

1587
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:25,559
Speaker 1: What number, Texter, that's.

1588
01:29:25,479 --> 01:29:28,679
Speaker 2: A great question, that's a good one.

1589
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:31,639
Speaker 1: I don't know you didn't respond to that as quickly

1590
01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:34,040
Speaker 1: as you did the fact a naked guy was walking around.

1591
01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:35,639
Speaker 1: I know ten.

1592
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:38,280
Speaker 2: How's that? Ten? Okay, Texter?

1593
01:29:38,439 --> 01:29:40,759
Speaker 1: Number ten? You are on your way to the Indiana

1594
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 1: sports Core Final four FanFest. We come back. Speaking of

1595
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:49,280
Speaker 1: creative listeners, I got something last night on my text

1596
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:53,320
Speaker 1: from a listener that is the definition of all things awesome.

1597
01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:56,240
Speaker 2: But Eddie won't like part of it. I'll play it

1598
01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:56,800
Speaker 2: for you next.

1599
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:03,880
Speaker 1: Every once in a while, I will come across something

1600
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:10,680
Speaker 1: where I'm like, man, the you know, people really are amazing.

1601
01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:16,120
Speaker 1: People's creativity. One of the great things about social media.

1602
01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:18,240
Speaker 1: There are a lot of negatives about social media, a

1603
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:22,320
Speaker 1: lot of them more negatives than positives. But one of

1604
01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:27,559
Speaker 1: the really great things about social media is the fact

1605
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:31,040
Speaker 1: that it allows people. Sometimes you see stuff and you're

1606
01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:35,559
Speaker 1: just like man, the creativity that people have the wit

1607
01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:41,800
Speaker 1: that people have, you know, the for example, the other day,

1608
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:43,800
Speaker 1: and I hate to bring it into a negative in

1609
01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:46,600
Speaker 1: terms of the state of world affairs, but there was

1610
01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 1: a post on social media regarding the nation of Jordan

1611
01:30:51,960 --> 01:30:55,840
Speaker 1: and something they were doing involved with action, military action

1612
01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:58,599
Speaker 1: in the Middle East, and it said, you know, Jordan

1613
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:03,519
Speaker 1: has just struck down on seven missiles or whatever. And

1614
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:06,240
Speaker 1: someone quotes sweeted it and said Lebron has never done that.

1615
01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:11,120
Speaker 1: The creativity of people right in that regard. Maybe it's

1616
01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:13,880
Speaker 1: an off color humor because you're talking about a military action,

1617
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:17,640
Speaker 1: but it was funny, right. People are very creative, by

1618
01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:19,439
Speaker 1: the way I looked it up. Shaq was twelve for

1619
01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:22,000
Speaker 1: twelve from the free throw line and that game for

1620
01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:25,080
Speaker 1: Indiana with thirty six points. Amazing that he would go.

1621
01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:26,880
Speaker 1: I mean, that has to be the only game in

1622
01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:28,280
Speaker 1: the career of Shaquille O'Neil where.

1623
01:31:28,120 --> 01:31:30,720
Speaker 2: He hit twelve of twelve free throws.

1624
01:31:31,120 --> 01:31:33,960
Speaker 1: Henderson had nineteen, Cheney had thirty in that game for

1625
01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:39,080
Speaker 1: Indiana and they beat LSU. But last night, very late,

1626
01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:41,960
Speaker 1: I was asleep. I got up this morning and there's

1627
01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:43,840
Speaker 1: a listener of the show by the name of Matt

1628
01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:44,760
Speaker 1: really good dude.

1629
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:45,639
Speaker 2: I talked to him once.

1630
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:47,080
Speaker 6: On the phone.

1631
01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:50,800
Speaker 1: Matt now lives over on the East Side, and he

1632
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:55,280
Speaker 1: sent me last night with all of the times on

1633
01:31:55,320 --> 01:31:57,439
Speaker 1: this show that we have talked about. Let me ask

1634
01:31:57,479 --> 01:32:00,720
Speaker 1: you this, Eddie, of the themes, if you will, of

1635
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:04,559
Speaker 1: the interaction between the two of us, yeap, what are

1636
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:12,479
Speaker 1: the probably three movies that are most commonly referenced. Well,

1637
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:16,720
Speaker 1: number one would have to be Fast Times at Richmond High, okay, right,

1638
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:21,160
Speaker 1: and then the reference to how I haven't seen shaw

1639
01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:22,280
Speaker 1: Shank redemps direct.

1640
01:32:22,760 --> 01:32:24,000
Speaker 2: So with that.

1641
01:32:25,439 --> 01:32:30,360
Speaker 1: I got and I would honestly, I honestly wish that

1642
01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:33,880
Speaker 1: I had the time to play in its entirety. This

1643
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:41,200
Speaker 1: clip Matt sent me an incredibly creative I think it's

1644
01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:48,640
Speaker 1: about seven minutes long, and it's a narration with a

1645
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:53,559
Speaker 1: very loosely interpreted impersonation of the voice of Morgan Freeman,

1646
01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:58,360
Speaker 1: which is not an easy impersonation to do, but he

1647
01:32:58,479 --> 01:33:02,280
Speaker 1: speaks kind of in the same cadence as Morgan Freeman

1648
01:33:02,320 --> 01:33:07,439
Speaker 1: and read from Shawshank. But Matt sent me a brilliant

1649
01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:13,040
Speaker 1: take off of Shawshank Redemption. And since Eddie has not

1650
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:16,439
Speaker 1: seen the movie, I won't give away the all of

1651
01:33:16,479 --> 01:33:19,880
Speaker 1: the things he talks about in the movie, but it's

1652
01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:24,560
Speaker 1: about seven minutes, and it was a soliloquy that essentially

1653
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:30,200
Speaker 1: narrated his appreciation or his understanding of this radio show.

1654
01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:34,000
Speaker 1: And one of the things to me that I truly

1655
01:33:34,040 --> 01:33:39,160
Speaker 1: appreciated about it was, and I'm being honest when I

1656
01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:47,040
Speaker 1: say this, we come in each day and I you know,

1657
01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:50,080
Speaker 1: I basically and I know John is the same. You know,

1658
01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:52,280
Speaker 1: we have an idea of what we're going to talk about,

1659
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:58,920
Speaker 1: but the conversation that we have is for the most

1660
01:33:58,960 --> 01:34:02,960
Speaker 1: part of free flow ad lib. It's a three hour

1661
01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:08,160
Speaker 1: ad lib each day. And what I have always found

1662
01:34:08,200 --> 01:34:11,639
Speaker 1: interesting about this job and what I most appreciate about

1663
01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:13,720
Speaker 1: this job and the people that give us their time

1664
01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:17,240
Speaker 1: in listening to it, is that the things that people

1665
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:22,240
Speaker 1: most commonly remember, the things that people will reference to

1666
01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:27,120
Speaker 1: me out in the general public, very seldomly are things

1667
01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:30,000
Speaker 1: like Jake, I agreed with your take about the Colts

1668
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:32,800
Speaker 1: signing Daniel Jones to the two year deal on that

1669
01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:34,280
Speaker 1: Wednesday for eighty eight million.

1670
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:35,000
Speaker 2: Jake.

1671
01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:37,960
Speaker 1: I agreed with your take on the Colts and Trey

1672
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:41,760
Speaker 1: Hendrickson going to Baltimore and how that facilitated for things, Jake,

1673
01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:45,240
Speaker 1: I agreed with your take about the pacers trying to

1674
01:34:45,240 --> 01:34:47,080
Speaker 1: get a top four pick and De Bonsa would be

1675
01:34:47,080 --> 01:34:50,559
Speaker 1: their target. Very seldomly do people point those things out

1676
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:55,880
Speaker 1: and remember, but rather it's the auxiliary stuff. You know,

1677
01:34:56,600 --> 01:34:59,280
Speaker 1: Saint Elmo is known for its stake, but the thing

1678
01:34:59,280 --> 01:35:02,160
Speaker 1: that people remember after eating there is the shrimp cocktail.

1679
01:35:02,479 --> 01:35:04,519
Speaker 1: And it's the shrimp cocktail of things that we do

1680
01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:07,800
Speaker 1: on this show that I enjoy that people notice or

1681
01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:12,040
Speaker 1: remember and I don't because it's all ad lib. Ever

1682
01:35:12,160 --> 01:35:17,400
Speaker 1: really remember or make cognitive effort to recall some of

1683
01:35:17,439 --> 01:35:21,320
Speaker 1: those things, And it's amazing to me the things that

1684
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 1: stick with people. And this thing that Matt did, this

1685
01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:29,520
Speaker 1: seven minute take on what it is is a fictionalized

1686
01:35:29,560 --> 01:35:32,680
Speaker 1: recount of Shawshank redemption, but he does it and the

1687
01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:36,920
Speaker 1: voice of Andy as if Andy was still at Shawshank

1688
01:35:37,040 --> 01:35:40,840
Speaker 1: but was listening to our radio show every day, and

1689
01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:44,800
Speaker 1: his recollection or excuse me, read and Red's recollection of

1690
01:35:45,280 --> 01:35:48,679
Speaker 1: being in the prison with Andy and listening to Quarium Company,

1691
01:35:49,479 --> 01:35:52,040
Speaker 1: and it was brilliant. It was brilliant, and it made

1692
01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:55,240
Speaker 1: me feel good and I appreciated it, and I a

1693
01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:57,680
Speaker 1: lot of what he references that we've had fun with

1694
01:35:57,760 --> 01:36:00,519
Speaker 1: on this show, Eddie. I smiled because as I thought,

1695
01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:03,320
Speaker 1: I don't I've heard. I had forgotten about that, but

1696
01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:06,519
Speaker 1: that's something that jumped out now. I wanted to play

1697
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:09,680
Speaker 1: the end this clip for Eddie just to show what

1698
01:36:09,720 --> 01:36:12,960
Speaker 1: it is that most stuck. It won't make sense to you, Eddie,

1699
01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:15,799
Speaker 1: because what he references is a key part of the movie.

1700
01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:19,080
Speaker 1: But what he references and a key part of this show.

1701
01:36:19,280 --> 01:36:24,120
Speaker 3: I think you'll love PSS. I may be speaking QR here,

1702
01:36:24,680 --> 01:36:28,400
Speaker 3: but as far as the movie is concerned, you tell

1703
01:36:28,520 --> 01:36:32,799
Speaker 3: Eddie that he needs to get busy watching or get

1704
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:34,080
Speaker 3: busy never knowing.

1705
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:35,960
Speaker 6: Damn straight.

1706
01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:42,519
Speaker 1: The QR baby, the QR Eddie. It's the things that stick,

1707
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:47,639
Speaker 1: right sure. This weekend's IndyCar event is, of course, then

1708
01:36:47,960 --> 01:36:50,200
Speaker 1: the Java House Grand Prix of Arlington. It is a

1709
01:36:50,240 --> 01:36:53,360
Speaker 1: new event around the streets of Arlington, Texas that means

1710
01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:57,920
Speaker 1: basically around Jerry World and one of those that will

1711
01:36:57,960 --> 01:37:00,400
Speaker 1: be driving one of the cars for ECR, which is

1712
01:37:00,439 --> 01:37:03,599
Speaker 1: sponsored by Java House. It has Java House on the

1713
01:37:03,640 --> 01:37:05,439
Speaker 1: side of the car. I thought it only fitting that

1714
01:37:05,479 --> 01:37:08,400
Speaker 1: he would be on the Java House Colbrew Coffee guest

1715
01:37:08,439 --> 01:37:13,080
Speaker 1: line so Christian Rasmussen will join us other side. If

1716
01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:15,519
Speaker 1: you are just joining us on the program. Daniel Jones

1717
01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:19,759
Speaker 1: two year deal eighty eight million could be worth upwards

1718
01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:22,719
Speaker 1: of one hundred that coming out today about eleven o'clock

1719
01:37:22,760 --> 01:37:26,720
Speaker 1: this morning. Also Trey Hendrickson on his way to Baltimore,

1720
01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:31,080
Speaker 1: and it appears as though the Colts were heavy in

1721
01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:34,400
Speaker 1: that conversation, but Baltimore in the end offering about three

1722
01:37:34,439 --> 01:37:37,559
Speaker 1: million dollars per year more than did the Colts, and

1723
01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:41,280
Speaker 1: so as a result Hendrickson is now a Baltimore Raven

1724
01:37:41,320 --> 01:37:43,559
Speaker 1: Pacers on the short end last night to Sacramento that

1725
01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:46,280
Speaker 1: now on the worst record in the NBA and IndyCar

1726
01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:49,559
Speaker 1: This weekend will be at a new event. It is

1727
01:37:49,640 --> 01:37:53,080
Speaker 1: the Java House Grand Prix of Arlington. Arlington meaning the

1728
01:37:53,240 --> 01:37:57,240
Speaker 1: area the suburb of Dallas where you find their sports stadiums.

1729
01:37:57,640 --> 01:38:00,640
Speaker 1: That's where the street course will be and highlighting the

1730
01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:04,280
Speaker 1: car with splendor and as well Java House sponsorship on

1731
01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:07,360
Speaker 1: the site of for ECR. He is a guy that

1732
01:38:07,439 --> 01:38:10,959
Speaker 1: led sixty eight laps in Phoenix last weekend. Christian Rasmussen

1733
01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:14,920
Speaker 1: joining us on the Java House Colebrew Coffee guest line.

1734
01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:17,479
Speaker 1: Christian First off. When it comes to guest lines, of

1735
01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:20,559
Speaker 1: those radio interviews you do, there is none that is

1736
01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:22,679
Speaker 1: smoother than the Java House guest line.

1737
01:38:22,680 --> 01:38:24,840
Speaker 6: Correct, Isn't that right?

1738
01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:28,160
Speaker 1: I knew, I knew you'd agree with that. All right,

1739
01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:32,880
Speaker 1: let's get to this. You had and boy, you know,

1740
01:38:32,920 --> 01:38:35,040
Speaker 1: we've seen last year at the end of the year.

1741
01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:37,280
Speaker 1: I think your introduction for a lot of people was

1742
01:38:37,320 --> 01:38:41,160
Speaker 1: when you took on fresh tires in an oval win.

1743
01:38:41,280 --> 01:38:41,680
Speaker 2: Last year.

1744
01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:43,599
Speaker 1: I want to say it was Nashville where you just

1745
01:38:43,760 --> 01:38:45,800
Speaker 1: stormed through at the end of the race and it.

1746
01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:47,599
Speaker 6: Looked like Milwaukee.

1747
01:38:47,720 --> 01:38:50,160
Speaker 1: Sorry about that. Yeah, So it looked like it was

1748
01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:51,840
Speaker 1: going to be the same. In Phoenix you were leading

1749
01:38:51,880 --> 01:38:55,280
Speaker 1: sixty eight laps and then Will Power, who was a

1750
01:38:55,360 --> 01:38:58,400
Speaker 1: veteran in the series, you had an incident where you

1751
01:38:58,439 --> 01:39:00,439
Speaker 1: tangled with him, and afterwards you guys talk. Did it

1752
01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:03,200
Speaker 1: seemed like Power kind of owned up to that. Let's

1753
01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:07,000
Speaker 1: go back to that incident first. What was your recollection

1754
01:39:07,120 --> 01:39:10,519
Speaker 1: and just your emotion of seeing that race kind of

1755
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:11,639
Speaker 1: be taken away there?

1756
01:39:12,840 --> 01:39:13,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, we were.

1757
01:39:14,280 --> 01:39:16,800
Speaker 4: We obviously had a very good day going, you know,

1758
01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:19,879
Speaker 4: starting down all the way down from from th eighteen

1759
01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:23,599
Speaker 4: and and throughout the whole race is working our way

1760
01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:26,960
Speaker 4: through the front. You know, even even in that first,

1761
01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:30,799
Speaker 4: very first sent we were you know, we were already

1762
01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:34,800
Speaker 4: up and contending with within the top five and top

1763
01:39:34,840 --> 01:39:36,400
Speaker 4: three of the of the race.

1764
01:39:36,840 --> 01:39:38,519
Speaker 6: So yeah, we were having an awesome day.

1765
01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:43,360
Speaker 4: On that very last stop came out, I think in

1766
01:39:43,360 --> 01:39:47,400
Speaker 4: in fifth or fourth or fifth, made my way through,

1767
01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:52,400
Speaker 4: overtook Kirkwood an award, and then I found myself in

1768
01:39:52,479 --> 01:39:57,160
Speaker 4: second right behind Power started to kind of go to

1769
01:39:57,200 --> 01:40:01,120
Speaker 4: work on him, trying to to find a way around

1770
01:40:01,240 --> 01:40:05,280
Speaker 4: when I went to the high side and turned one

1771
01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:09,600
Speaker 4: and two, and I guess that's that's where.

1772
01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:11,959
Speaker 6: What Power also.

1773
01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:15,519
Speaker 4: Wanted to be so ended out me getting squeezed into

1774
01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:19,760
Speaker 4: the wall unfortunately and and picking up some damage on

1775
01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:24,120
Speaker 4: the car, which ultimately led that led to us us

1776
01:40:24,200 --> 01:40:26,559
Speaker 4: losing a ton of positions towards the end of the race.

1777
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:28,880
Speaker 1: What did Power say to you afterwards?

1778
01:40:30,360 --> 01:40:33,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, I walked up to him after and just you know,

1779
01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:36,000
Speaker 4: just to check in and see see what his view

1780
01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:40,320
Speaker 4: is on it or was on it. When when you

1781
01:40:40,320 --> 01:40:43,759
Speaker 4: have incident like that with other drivers in in IndyCar

1782
01:40:43,800 --> 01:40:48,080
Speaker 4: and a the other race series, it's very often that

1783
01:40:48,280 --> 01:40:53,280
Speaker 4: these two conflicting drivers. Ye I do. I but yeah,

1784
01:40:53,280 --> 01:40:55,120
Speaker 4: so I wanted to to to get his side of

1785
01:40:55,160 --> 01:40:57,320
Speaker 4: the story and and yeah, he owned up to it.

1786
01:40:58,040 --> 01:41:00,439
Speaker 4: He he told me that that he was in the

1787
01:41:00,439 --> 01:41:05,519
Speaker 4: wrong and yeah, you know, there's not there's not really

1788
01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:08,280
Speaker 4: much you can do about it, you know, on the on.

1789
01:41:08,200 --> 01:41:12,240
Speaker 6: The backside, it's uh, and then the day that's racing,

1790
01:41:12,280 --> 01:41:13,280
Speaker 6: that's what happens.

1791
01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:16,360
Speaker 4: I have I have massive respect for for Will. He's

1792
01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:19,960
Speaker 4: one of the fosses that the sports have has ever seen.

1793
01:41:21,720 --> 01:41:27,280
Speaker 4: So it was just an unfortunate situation. So hopefully we

1794
01:41:27,400 --> 01:41:31,440
Speaker 4: won't have that in the future. He hopefully he communicates

1795
01:41:31,960 --> 01:41:36,400
Speaker 4: better with his spatter the next time around, and uh,

1796
01:41:36,560 --> 01:41:37,759
Speaker 4: we won't have the same incident.

1797
01:41:38,040 --> 01:41:40,439
Speaker 1: For those that are unfamiliar. Christian Rasmus and by the way,

1798
01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:43,479
Speaker 1: is my guest on the Java House Colbrew Coffee guest line.

1799
01:41:43,880 --> 01:41:46,160
Speaker 1: And Christian. You came up through the ranks, you know,

1800
01:41:46,200 --> 01:41:50,040
Speaker 1: you're a native obviously of Copenhagen. Copenhagen, Denmark, came up

1801
01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:52,240
Speaker 1: through the ranks in the latter series you ran in

1802
01:41:52,280 --> 01:41:55,240
Speaker 1: the Jay Howard Driver Development Program. You've done a little

1803
01:41:55,240 --> 01:41:58,760
Speaker 1: of everything, but not necessarily at least from what I

1804
01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:03,040
Speaker 1: know in your earlier driving days, were you racing regularly

1805
01:42:03,160 --> 01:42:05,680
Speaker 1: on ovals. Now you tell me if that's incorrect. But

1806
01:42:05,800 --> 01:42:08,759
Speaker 1: the reason I bring it up is because you really

1807
01:42:08,800 --> 01:42:11,640
Speaker 1: have become a tenacious oval driver and it looks like

1808
01:42:11,680 --> 01:42:13,880
Speaker 1: you are comfortable on them. Obviously you mentioned getting the

1809
01:42:13,920 --> 01:42:18,440
Speaker 1: win in Milwaukee. What is it about ovals that seemingly

1810
01:42:18,640 --> 01:42:19,880
Speaker 1: fits your driving style?

1811
01:42:21,479 --> 01:42:25,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was introduced to ovals.

1812
01:42:25,040 --> 01:42:30,200
Speaker 4: Fairly early on, as I did all the junior categories

1813
01:42:30,200 --> 01:42:34,320
Speaker 4: here in the States, as you mentioned yourself. So it's

1814
01:42:34,680 --> 01:42:38,080
Speaker 4: definitely very heavy on the road and street course side

1815
01:42:38,520 --> 01:42:42,360
Speaker 4: early on in my career. But got introduced in I

1816
01:42:42,360 --> 01:42:45,080
Speaker 4: guess twenty nineteen would have been my first year of

1817
01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:48,840
Speaker 4: running ovals. That one race there, a couple of races

1818
01:42:48,920 --> 01:42:51,160
Speaker 4: the following year, and you know, just kind of build

1819
01:42:51,240 --> 01:42:54,200
Speaker 4: up to it and done more and more oval racing

1820
01:42:54,520 --> 01:42:58,080
Speaker 4: in over the years. Obviously in Indy Car that's probably

1821
01:42:58,080 --> 01:43:00,960
Speaker 4: the heaviest oval schedule that that I've.

1822
01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:01,439
Speaker 6: Been a part of.

1823
01:43:02,320 --> 01:43:05,880
Speaker 4: But yeah, it just, uh, you know, it just clicks

1824
01:43:05,880 --> 01:43:09,920
Speaker 4: with us. I think I feel I feel quite comfortable

1825
01:43:11,400 --> 01:43:15,320
Speaker 4: with with a car that's that's moving around, which I

1826
01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:19,840
Speaker 4: think results in some way into into speeds I think.

1827
01:43:20,120 --> 01:43:24,200
Speaker 6: We're willing to.

1828
01:43:23,120 --> 01:43:28,400
Speaker 4: To take some risks that some other drivers aren't willing

1829
01:43:28,439 --> 01:43:32,639
Speaker 4: to take, and and that just is very rewarded in

1830
01:43:32,640 --> 01:43:37,879
Speaker 4: in short leable racing, especially, So I think what what we.

1831
01:43:37,720 --> 01:43:43,080
Speaker 6: In particular have been doing very very well is traffic management.

1832
01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:47,160
Speaker 4: Because I don't think necessarily we've been the quickest car

1833
01:43:48,120 --> 01:43:52,840
Speaker 4: out there every weekend, but all the way that we

1834
01:43:52,960 --> 01:43:57,439
Speaker 4: manage traffic and get through lab traffic really seem to

1835
01:43:57,439 --> 01:43:58,400
Speaker 4: to make a difference.

1836
01:43:58,560 --> 01:44:01,360
Speaker 6: So yeah, I mean I love oval racing. I always

1837
01:44:01,400 --> 01:44:03,200
Speaker 6: have from the very beginning.

1838
01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:07,479
Speaker 4: So yeah, just looking forward to to the next one

1839
01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:09,759
Speaker 4: and and and putting this one behind us.

1840
01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:12,880
Speaker 1: Are you curious to see what the track layout is

1841
01:44:12,920 --> 01:44:15,200
Speaker 1: going to be here in the next event? Obviously the

1842
01:44:15,280 --> 01:44:18,360
Speaker 1: Java House Grand Prix of Arlington, but uh, you know whatever,

1843
01:44:18,400 --> 01:44:21,559
Speaker 1: it is a new street course race that utilizes the

1844
01:44:21,600 --> 01:44:24,680
Speaker 1: parking lot areas of a stadium. Are you curious to

1845
01:44:24,760 --> 01:44:26,960
Speaker 1: see what the track is going to be and how

1846
01:44:26,960 --> 01:44:28,519
Speaker 1: many how long does it take you to kind of

1847
01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:31,040
Speaker 1: acclimate and get used to the muscle memory of a course.

1848
01:44:32,320 --> 01:44:35,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a that's a good question. I was. I

1849
01:44:35,120 --> 01:44:39,560
Speaker 6: was fortunate to to go out there end of the

1850
01:44:39,720 --> 01:44:41,240
Speaker 6: last year, I believe it was.

1851
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:44,880
Speaker 4: And and see you know where the layout is going

1852
01:44:44,960 --> 01:44:47,080
Speaker 4: to be, and and see the area around the track

1853
01:44:47,120 --> 01:44:51,840
Speaker 4: where where everything is, and what a place to host

1854
01:44:52,400 --> 01:44:54,519
Speaker 4: a race, you know, right in between the Rangers and

1855
01:44:54,560 --> 01:44:59,000
Speaker 4: the Cowboys stadium. And yeah, I mean it looks like

1856
01:44:59,200 --> 01:45:05,800
Speaker 4: the I think the the layout of the check looks great,

1857
01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:09,000
Speaker 4: you know, I'm I think we're all very excited, especially

1858
01:45:09,120 --> 01:45:13,160
Speaker 4: Alix and I being part of ECR with with having

1859
01:45:13,240 --> 01:45:15,880
Speaker 4: Java house branding on the side of both our cars

1860
01:45:15,880 --> 01:45:20,599
Speaker 4: this weekend, so that's obviously is obviously a big weekend

1861
01:45:20,680 --> 01:45:25,120
Speaker 4: for us, a big weekend for the team, and one

1862
01:45:25,160 --> 01:45:30,679
Speaker 4: that we're all very excited about with how everything looks

1863
01:45:30,680 --> 01:45:31,120
Speaker 4: out there.

1864
01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:35,439
Speaker 1: You know, the Christian Rasmussen is my guest growing up

1865
01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:39,280
Speaker 1: in Denmark. I'm curious of this. Everybody around here, you know,

1866
01:45:39,439 --> 01:45:41,639
Speaker 1: their body like acclavates because we just had to change

1867
01:45:41,680 --> 01:45:44,919
Speaker 1: our clocks right for daylight savings. Now if I'm mistaken,

1868
01:45:44,960 --> 01:45:46,280
Speaker 1: you tell me if I'm wrong. But like when you

1869
01:45:46,280 --> 01:45:48,519
Speaker 1: were a kid growing up in Denmark, and I mean

1870
01:45:48,520 --> 01:45:51,200
Speaker 1: this is obviously the case still, but in June there

1871
01:45:51,240 --> 01:45:53,320
Speaker 1: the sun comes up at like three o'clock in the morning,

1872
01:45:53,360 --> 01:45:55,320
Speaker 1: and then gets dark at midnight something like that. Now

1873
01:45:55,320 --> 01:45:57,920
Speaker 1: that's I'm probably embarrassing a little bit, but is there

1874
01:45:58,000 --> 01:45:59,479
Speaker 1: some truth to that? Like is it do you get

1875
01:45:59,520 --> 01:46:01,639
Speaker 1: like the twenty hours of daylight there in Denmark?

1876
01:46:03,200 --> 01:46:07,840
Speaker 4: It's not quite that extreme, but yes, in the summertime

1877
01:46:07,960 --> 01:46:12,400
Speaker 4: there is definitely very long dase and it's slipped in

1878
01:46:12,439 --> 01:46:15,120
Speaker 4: the winter, right, Like I remember going to school when

1879
01:46:15,439 --> 01:46:19,280
Speaker 4: I was younger, waking up in the morning, sun would

1880
01:46:19,280 --> 01:46:21,719
Speaker 4: come up around nine and they would be down again

1881
01:46:21,800 --> 01:46:25,559
Speaker 4: around three. So definitely short days in the winter too.

1882
01:46:25,640 --> 01:46:28,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's no pointo man, I mean that is not good,

1883
01:46:28,520 --> 01:46:29,960
Speaker 1: Like I would have zero energy.

1884
01:46:30,960 --> 01:46:34,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, winter depression is definitely a thing.

1885
01:46:34,400 --> 01:46:36,320
Speaker 1: You need to send a bunch of Wrangler energy from

1886
01:46:36,400 --> 01:46:38,200
Speaker 1: Java House to the folks in Denmark in the winter

1887
01:46:38,280 --> 01:46:40,280
Speaker 1: time to carry them through along with the coffee. But

1888
01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:42,800
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask this before we let you go.

1889
01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:47,720
Speaker 1: I'm always fascinated of this question, Christian. You've obviously now

1890
01:46:47,760 --> 01:46:50,599
Speaker 1: been around the United States a lot because of the

1891
01:46:50,680 --> 01:46:54,680
Speaker 1: series and just being here now, and I know this

1892
01:46:54,760 --> 01:46:57,320
Speaker 1: sounds like a dumb question, but it fascinates me and

1893
01:46:57,320 --> 01:47:00,360
Speaker 1: I think people find it interesting. What area of the

1894
01:47:00,439 --> 01:47:04,160
Speaker 1: United States if any have you been to that most

1895
01:47:04,320 --> 01:47:09,040
Speaker 1: reminds you of home? And by that I mean the countryside,

1896
01:47:09,080 --> 01:47:11,880
Speaker 1: the topography, the way that the true you know, just

1897
01:47:11,920 --> 01:47:16,000
Speaker 1: the way everything looks. Denmark looks the most like what

1898
01:47:16,280 --> 01:47:18,360
Speaker 1: area of the United States.

1899
01:47:20,040 --> 01:47:21,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a great question.

1900
01:47:22,360 --> 01:47:26,600
Speaker 4: I don't think I've I've really been anywhere in the

1901
01:47:26,680 --> 01:47:29,439
Speaker 4: States that really reminds me.

1902
01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:34,880
Speaker 6: Of Denmark. Obviously, we have a lot of coastline. It's

1903
01:47:35,080 --> 01:47:35,759
Speaker 6: very coastal.

1904
01:47:36,240 --> 01:47:39,360
Speaker 4: No matter where you are in Denmark, you're a maximum

1905
01:47:39,439 --> 01:47:42,920
Speaker 4: of I think thirty or thirty five minute drive from

1906
01:47:42,960 --> 01:47:47,679
Speaker 4: the ocean, so it would be somewhere coastal.

1907
01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:51,000
Speaker 3: Man.

1908
01:47:51,080 --> 01:47:52,960
Speaker 6: That's hard for me to pick.

1909
01:47:52,800 --> 01:47:56,000
Speaker 4: Out, because I think in many ways they are very different.

1910
01:47:57,000 --> 01:48:00,880
Speaker 4: Architectures is different, Infrastructing sure is different.

1911
01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:04,240
Speaker 1: Is there a city anywhere that feels like I've always

1912
01:48:04,280 --> 01:48:06,720
Speaker 1: heard Copenhagen is super cool, man, I would love to

1913
01:48:06,760 --> 01:48:09,000
Speaker 1: go there. Is there a US city that feels like

1914
01:48:09,080 --> 01:48:10,360
Speaker 1: it in any way.

1915
01:48:12,160 --> 01:48:12,479
Speaker 6: For me?

1916
01:48:12,680 --> 01:48:12,760
Speaker 10: No?

1917
01:48:13,160 --> 01:48:17,599
Speaker 4: Not really, I think, you know, I think there's obviously

1918
01:48:17,680 --> 01:48:20,639
Speaker 4: unbiased being from there and all, but I always say

1919
01:48:20,680 --> 01:48:25,320
Speaker 4: that there's no place quiet, no place quite like Copenhagen

1920
01:48:25,439 --> 01:48:30,400
Speaker 4: in the summer. One of my favorite places to be and.

1921
01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:32,120
Speaker 6: Being home and all.

1922
01:48:33,479 --> 01:48:37,360
Speaker 4: But you know, Carmel, Indiana has become my new home

1923
01:48:37,760 --> 01:48:40,680
Speaker 4: and I love being here. Not that it reminds me

1924
01:48:40,800 --> 01:48:45,400
Speaker 4: very much of Copenhagen, but that has become home.

1925
01:48:45,680 --> 01:48:48,519
Speaker 1: And of course we do the best, but no much,

1926
01:48:48,680 --> 01:48:50,479
Speaker 1: no matter how much we try, Christian, we can't get

1927
01:48:50,479 --> 01:48:51,920
Speaker 1: the sun to come up here at four thirty in

1928
01:48:51,960 --> 01:48:53,599
Speaker 1: the morning in the summer and set at nine thirty

1929
01:48:53,600 --> 01:48:55,799
Speaker 1: at night. But it would be awesome if it could happen.

1930
01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:58,400
Speaker 1: But we'll see if the sun shines you on you

1931
01:48:58,439 --> 01:49:01,040
Speaker 1: in Arlington. Obviously it's to be a great event the

1932
01:49:01,160 --> 01:49:03,880
Speaker 1: Java House Grand Prix of Arlington taking place this weekend

1933
01:49:03,880 --> 01:49:06,760
Speaker 1: for IndyCar and certainly wish you the best, look forward

1934
01:49:06,800 --> 01:49:08,720
Speaker 1: to seeing you down there and watching your race, and

1935
01:49:09,320 --> 01:49:11,200
Speaker 1: wish you the best on a strong finish for the

1936
01:49:11,280 --> 01:49:12,439
Speaker 1: race coming up this weekend.

1937
01:49:13,479 --> 01:49:15,040
Speaker 6: Thank you very much, thanks for having.

1938
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Speaker 1: Me appreciate it. Christian Rasmussen joining us again Java House

1939
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Speaker 1: Colbrew Coffee guest line. And that's going to be anytime

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01:49:21,600 --> 01:49:24,240
Speaker 1: that we It always amazes me when we go to

1941
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Speaker 1: a new venue and I watch over a street course

1942
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Speaker 1: and you know, sometimes the drivers will use simulators to

1943
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Speaker 1: get an idea and a feel for the course itself.

1944
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Speaker 1: But then once you go out there and you go

1945
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Speaker 1: through a couple of practice sessions, it's new for everybody,

1946
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Speaker 1: so it'll be curious to see how everybody acclimates. I

1947
01:49:43,040 --> 01:49:45,439
Speaker 1: wanted to mention this as well now that it is

1948
01:49:45,960 --> 01:49:51,120
Speaker 1: he has posted about it. Last night, just as the

1949
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Speaker 1: Pacers game was set to get underway, I was scrolling

1950
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Speaker 1: through social media and I saw a post from the

1951
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Speaker 1: Pacers and that post from the Pacers featured Mark Boyle

1952
01:50:04,760 --> 01:50:10,639
Speaker 1: doing his pre game interview for television with Rick Carlisle.

1953
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Speaker 1: That is usually a role that of course is taken

1954
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Speaker 1: on by Jeremiah Johnson. You know, Jeremiah, friend of the show,

1955
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Speaker 1: and I've known Jeremiah a long time. Everybody in this

1956
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Speaker 1: market has known Jeremiah a long time. But that role

1957
01:50:25,320 --> 01:50:29,320
Speaker 1: is usually assumed by Jeremiah. And in this case, it

1958
01:50:29,400 --> 01:50:33,080
Speaker 1: was not because Jeremiah Johnson was not with the Pacers

1959
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Speaker 1: team last night. That is because Jeremiah, who grew up

1960
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Speaker 1: in Peru, Indiana, and of course a Ball State graduate

1961
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Speaker 1: and a proud not only Peru native, but you know,

1962
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Speaker 1: a member of the circus there, which is oh so important.

1963
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Speaker 1: But JJ lost his father and I can only imagine

1964
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Speaker 1: what it must have been, the emotion that he had

1965
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Speaker 1: to feel too, and the helplessness that it would feel

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Speaker 1: to be, you know, there away from home and losing

1967
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Speaker 1: your father.

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Speaker 2: And so.

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Speaker 1: He has now posted about the fact that what he

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Speaker 1: knew was this, and that is that within the last

1971
01:51:20,520 --> 01:51:23,960
Speaker 1: month or so, Jeremiah Johnson's father found out that he

1972
01:51:24,800 --> 01:51:28,960
Speaker 1: you know, was ill with cancer and that his body

1973
01:51:30,280 --> 01:51:33,680
Speaker 1: really you know, had stage four esophagal cancer that had

1974
01:51:33,720 --> 01:51:37,439
Speaker 1: spread into multiple areas of his body, and that the

1975
01:51:37,520 --> 01:51:41,160
Speaker 1: cancer was really beginning to physically consume him, even though

1976
01:51:41,160 --> 01:51:44,559
Speaker 1: his father was not outwardly showing that. And his father

1977
01:51:44,720 --> 01:51:47,960
Speaker 1: ultimately passed of I believe a heart attack from the

1978
01:51:48,000 --> 01:51:56,000
Speaker 1: complications thereof. But for Jeremiah to be away, to know

1979
01:51:56,200 --> 01:51:59,080
Speaker 1: probably that his father was just beginning what he thought

1980
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Speaker 1: was going in hoping is going to be a longer journey,

1981
01:52:01,920 --> 01:52:04,080
Speaker 1: and to be away from his family, away from his

1982
01:52:04,360 --> 01:52:07,559
Speaker 1: comfort zone for Jeremiah, and with the team doing what

1983
01:52:07,640 --> 01:52:10,960
Speaker 1: I know that Jeremiah loves to do, had to be.

1984
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Speaker 1: It goes without saying, you know, incredibly emotional, difficult, challenging,

1985
01:52:17,960 --> 01:52:20,160
Speaker 1: probably helpless would be a good way of saying it

1986
01:52:20,200 --> 01:52:24,479
Speaker 1: as well. And I got to think it about the

1987
01:52:24,560 --> 01:52:27,600
Speaker 1: fact that you know, for Jeremiah, who we all know,

1988
01:52:28,600 --> 01:52:31,679
Speaker 1: I think it represents for all of us that that

1989
01:52:31,760 --> 01:52:34,800
Speaker 1: feeling of loss. But I can't imagine, of course, to

1990
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Speaker 1: the level that he was feeling it. What I know

1991
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Speaker 1: is this, and I think it's something that we all

1992
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Speaker 1: can aspire towards and find. Hopefully Jeremiah can find some

1993
01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:47,880
Speaker 1: comfort in this, as I told him. You know, I

1994
01:52:47,920 --> 01:52:52,479
Speaker 1: remember several years ago, Jeremiah was working in Terre Haute

1995
01:52:52,840 --> 01:52:55,720
Speaker 1: and he was covering sports for a television station in

1996
01:52:55,800 --> 01:53:00,080
Speaker 1: Terre Haute, and an opening was available at w u

1997
01:53:00,160 --> 01:53:04,120
Speaker 1: XI in Fox fifty nine, and JJ jumped on that

1998
01:53:04,160 --> 01:53:06,519
Speaker 1: opportunity and was hired and worked there for a number

1999
01:53:06,520 --> 01:53:09,200
Speaker 1: of years, did a great job, and then that obviously

2000
01:53:09,280 --> 01:53:11,160
Speaker 1: landed him in the role that he currently has for

2001
01:53:11,240 --> 01:53:14,920
Speaker 1: the Pacers. And I did not know his father. It's

2002
01:53:14,960 --> 01:53:17,559
Speaker 1: disingenuous to say that I know Jeremiah is super well,

2003
01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:19,840
Speaker 1: but I mean, obviously we've been friends or friendly for

2004
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Speaker 1: a very long time. Eddie, I know you know him

2005
01:53:21,600 --> 01:53:27,680
Speaker 1: well as well, probably better than I. But ultimately, what

2006
01:53:27,720 --> 01:53:31,839
Speaker 1: it comes down to, regardless of relationship. You know, everybody

2007
01:53:31,920 --> 01:53:35,840
Speaker 1: has different relationships with their parents. Eddie and I both

2008
01:53:35,920 --> 01:53:40,000
Speaker 1: are very fortunate to have very close and healthy relationships

2009
01:53:40,040 --> 01:53:43,479
Speaker 1: with our living parents. Not everybody has that on both

2010
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Speaker 1: sides of that, and I understand that. But no matter

2011
01:53:46,439 --> 01:53:50,080
Speaker 1: what element of relationship it is you have with someone,

2012
01:53:50,520 --> 01:53:55,000
Speaker 1: we're a coworker, a spouse, a partner, a friend, or

2013
01:53:55,040 --> 01:53:58,360
Speaker 1: a parent or a family member, you know the one

2014
01:53:58,439 --> 01:54:01,519
Speaker 1: thing that when they're no longer there, and all of

2015
01:54:01,560 --> 01:54:06,679
Speaker 1: the times that I'm sure you yearn to once again

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01:54:06,720 --> 01:54:08,599
Speaker 1: be able to call them for advice or talk to them,

2017
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Speaker 1: or share a joke with them, or a moment that

2018
01:54:10,240 --> 01:54:12,559
Speaker 1: made you laugh, or a moment in a movie that

2019
01:54:12,600 --> 01:54:16,200
Speaker 1: reminded you of them, I can't imagine the void that

2020
01:54:16,320 --> 01:54:21,760
Speaker 1: comes with that. And in those moments, it's always my

2021
01:54:21,880 --> 01:54:24,960
Speaker 1: hope that people can find some sort of a peace

2022
01:54:25,080 --> 01:54:29,519
Speaker 1: or a comfort and knowing that they carried the legacy

2023
01:54:29,880 --> 01:54:32,680
Speaker 1: of the relationship with that person by going about and

2024
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Speaker 1: executing in a way that did that person proud, and

2025
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Speaker 1: knowing Jeremiah Johnson and knowing his dedication as a father,

2026
01:54:42,320 --> 01:54:46,040
Speaker 1: as a husband and as a family man that at

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Speaker 1: the same time carries with them those same principles in

2028
01:54:48,560 --> 01:54:51,600
Speaker 1: the way that he executes his job and knowing his

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01:54:51,760 --> 01:54:56,120
Speaker 1: dad's passion, as Jeremiah shared, for his father's ability to

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Speaker 1: watch him on television follow him, that had to have

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01:54:59,640 --> 01:55:04,560
Speaker 1: been each and every day given his dad pride. And

2032
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Speaker 1: I have no doubt, while not knowing his father, that

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01:55:07,440 --> 01:55:11,480
Speaker 1: his father had to have had an undeniable pride in

2034
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Speaker 1: the accomplishments of Jeremiah. And I think for all of us,

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01:55:15,360 --> 01:55:19,960
Speaker 1: regardless of what relationship we're talking about, regardless of the circumstance,

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Speaker 1: it would be my hope for everyone that we can

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Speaker 1: continue to live in such a way that shares that

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Speaker 1: sort of a passion and a respect and understanding to

2039
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Speaker 1: those close to us, in exhibiting and living and carrying

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Speaker 1: out our lives in a way that those folks can

2041
01:55:36,600 --> 01:55:39,240
Speaker 1: see a pride in the instillment they left in us.

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01:55:39,960 --> 01:55:42,040
Speaker 1: And I think he did that, and I hope that

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01:55:42,120 --> 01:55:46,760
Speaker 1: Jeremiah can find a piece in knowing that his dad

2044
01:55:47,040 --> 01:55:50,720
Speaker 1: certainly had that smile by watching, as Jeremiah said he

2045
01:55:50,840 --> 01:55:55,600
Speaker 1: did each and every pregame and postgame for the Pacers.

2046
01:55:56,440 --> 01:56:01,440
Speaker 1: As for the result for the Pacers, it a complicated

2047
01:56:01,480 --> 01:56:05,440
Speaker 1: one in terms of not really knowing how to ingest

2048
01:56:05,480 --> 01:56:08,160
Speaker 1: it because Eddie. Odd as it may seem and sound,

2049
01:56:10,640 --> 01:56:13,120
Speaker 1: I hate saying this, but when I saw that they

2050
01:56:13,160 --> 01:56:14,760
Speaker 1: lost to the Kings, there was a part of me

2051
01:56:14,840 --> 01:56:19,960
Speaker 1: that was like, yes, and that sounds totally absurd. Yeah,

2052
01:56:20,200 --> 01:56:24,880
Speaker 1: and it sounds irresponsible to say that you would be

2053
01:56:25,160 --> 01:56:29,480
Speaker 1: happy that a team lost, But I know they didn't

2054
01:56:29,520 --> 01:56:33,560
Speaker 1: lose because they're the inferior opponent or inferior franchise or

2055
01:56:33,600 --> 01:56:37,560
Speaker 1: inferior team. And I'm not saying they tried to lose,

2056
01:56:38,520 --> 01:56:40,360
Speaker 1: but I don't know at this point that they're all

2057
01:56:40,400 --> 01:56:43,960
Speaker 1: in on trying to win. And they have utilized have

2058
01:56:44,080 --> 01:56:48,400
Speaker 1: the Pacers this year, this opportunity and this season to

2059
01:56:48,600 --> 01:56:55,400
Speaker 1: simply try to find ways to develop younger players, try different.

2060
01:56:56,000 --> 01:57:00,760
Speaker 1: This year is basically a free spin and so why

2061
01:57:00,800 --> 01:57:03,760
Speaker 1: not take advantage of that by seeing what it is

2062
01:57:03,800 --> 01:57:06,440
Speaker 1: do you have in other players, different combinations, who feeds

2063
01:57:06,480 --> 01:57:09,520
Speaker 1: off this player or that player and making the most

2064
01:57:09,600 --> 01:57:12,000
Speaker 1: out of it. And I think they've done that all

2065
01:57:12,080 --> 01:57:17,000
Speaker 1: while potentially landing themselves a top four pick. Yes, the

2066
01:57:17,080 --> 01:57:19,280
Speaker 1: ping pong balls will have something to say about that,

2067
01:57:19,640 --> 01:57:21,640
Speaker 1: and yes, you need a little luck to come your way,

2068
01:57:22,160 --> 01:57:24,720
Speaker 1: but this is a franchise when it comes to draft

2069
01:57:25,160 --> 01:57:27,200
Speaker 1: and the way that they slot in the draft and

2070
01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:31,760
Speaker 1: lottery that has never had luck and karma should come

2071
01:57:31,800 --> 01:57:36,360
Speaker 1: their way. They've earned it. They earned it in the

2072
01:57:36,400 --> 01:57:39,000
Speaker 1: frozen envelope, they earned it in the coin flip, they

2073
01:57:39,040 --> 01:57:42,200
Speaker 1: earned it in Tyrese Haliburton giving it his all and

2074
01:57:42,320 --> 01:57:45,200
Speaker 1: leaving it on the floor and delivering for that franchise

2075
01:57:45,600 --> 01:57:49,560
Speaker 1: within basically one in three quarters of a quarter away

2076
01:57:49,600 --> 01:57:55,000
Speaker 1: from an NBA title, and the basketball gods, I hope

2077
01:57:55,160 --> 01:58:00,440
Speaker 1: are listening and taking note and can deliver for Indiana

2078
01:58:00,480 --> 01:58:03,160
Speaker 1: and getting them that top four pick. But it is

2079
01:58:03,560 --> 01:58:05,800
Speaker 1: remarkable to think, and I like Ben Matherin. I like

2080
01:58:05,840 --> 01:58:08,600
Speaker 1: them a lot, and I had great hope for him

2081
01:58:08,600 --> 01:58:10,320
Speaker 1: when he was drafted, and I think for the most

2082
01:58:10,320 --> 01:58:13,440
Speaker 1: part he has been the kind and the style and

2083
01:58:13,480 --> 01:58:16,360
Speaker 1: the level of player that they hoped when they drafted him.

2084
01:58:17,320 --> 01:58:21,880
Speaker 1: Just his particular style isn't necessarily parallel with exactly what

2085
01:58:21,960 --> 01:58:24,560
Speaker 1: it was that Indiana has needed over the course of

2086
01:58:24,600 --> 01:58:28,040
Speaker 1: his career here. But to think that now his contribution

2087
01:58:28,200 --> 01:58:31,840
Speaker 1: may be with no ill will on either side, that

2088
01:58:31,920 --> 01:58:35,480
Speaker 1: Ben Matheren may be flipped into zobots and an elite

2089
01:58:35,560 --> 01:58:39,240
Speaker 1: level young wing. There has to be some luck that

2090
01:58:39,320 --> 01:58:42,160
Speaker 1: goes into play in that. But if that happens, and

2091
01:58:42,200 --> 01:58:46,880
Speaker 1: I'm knocking on wood, if that happens, that is a

2092
01:58:46,920 --> 01:58:48,919
Speaker 1: big time coup for the Pacers.

2093
01:58:49,240 --> 01:58:52,160
Speaker 2: It could be a huge win, right, huge huge even

2094
01:58:52,200 --> 01:58:55,640
Speaker 2: though they give up the unprotected first in twenty thirty one.

2095
01:58:55,680 --> 01:58:59,200
Speaker 2: But that's not what's at stake right now. What's stake

2096
01:58:59,280 --> 01:59:01,640
Speaker 2: it's at stake right now is the fact that they've

2097
01:59:01,640 --> 01:59:03,400
Speaker 2: got a team that feel like can win the Eastern

2098
01:59:03,400 --> 01:59:06,360
Speaker 2: Conference and get back to the NBA Finals with the

2099
01:59:06,400 --> 01:59:09,720
Speaker 2: addition of Zubonten. Putting them over the top would be

2100
01:59:09,720 --> 01:59:13,320
Speaker 2: getting an agent Debonsa in the draft. You know the.

2101
01:59:15,360 --> 01:59:16,960
Speaker 1: By the way, I've noticed she keeps staring out the

2102
01:59:16,960 --> 01:59:18,160
Speaker 1: window ever since you saw the.

2103
01:59:18,200 --> 01:59:20,280
Speaker 2: Naked guy just pouring rain.

2104
01:59:20,640 --> 01:59:23,440
Speaker 6: It is maybe that's why I think I was naked.

2105
01:59:23,320 --> 01:59:25,600
Speaker 2: Right in a shower. Yeah.

2106
01:59:26,000 --> 01:59:28,160
Speaker 1: I just went ahead and laddered up and was like, hey,

2107
01:59:28,200 --> 01:59:31,640
Speaker 1: let's go. If you're just joining us on the program.

2108
01:59:31,680 --> 01:59:33,640
Speaker 1: I looked out the window a second ago, about an

2109
01:59:33,640 --> 01:59:35,960
Speaker 1: hour ago, and I thought I saw a naked guy.

2110
01:59:36,280 --> 01:59:38,680
Speaker 1: And then my just inadvertently I said, I think there's

2111
01:59:38,720 --> 01:59:40,600
Speaker 1: a naked guy out there there. That was not by

2112
01:59:40,600 --> 01:59:43,760
Speaker 1: the way, I was mistaken, But Eddie sprang out of

2113
01:59:43,760 --> 01:59:48,560
Speaker 1: his seat and basically turned in like a Leland McElroy

2114
01:59:48,640 --> 01:59:50,640
Speaker 1: level forty to the window in order to see the

2115
01:59:50,720 --> 01:59:51,840
Speaker 1: potentially naked guy.

2116
01:59:52,040 --> 01:59:52,240
Speaker 2: Right.

2117
01:59:53,920 --> 01:59:56,600
Speaker 1: Bruce Weber is with the Big Ten network. Of course,

2118
01:59:56,600 --> 01:59:59,000
Speaker 1: Bruce Webber knows a little about coaching in the Big Ten,

2119
01:59:59,080 --> 02:00:01,120
Speaker 1: knows a little about in the Big Ten, knows a

2120
02:00:01,160 --> 02:00:04,280
Speaker 1: little about winning. In March, and the Big Ten Tournament

2121
02:00:04,400 --> 02:00:06,840
Speaker 1: is underway. We now know that it will be Indiana

2122
02:00:06,880 --> 02:00:10,280
Speaker 1: tonight taking on Northwestern, and then of course the winner

2123
02:00:10,320 --> 02:00:12,320
Speaker 1: of that game goes on tomorrow to face Perdue. But

2124
02:00:12,360 --> 02:00:14,720
Speaker 1: Bruce Weber joins us other side to help break it

2125
02:00:14,720 --> 02:00:18,440
Speaker 1: all down. Big ten Tournament underway still, and I will

2126
02:00:18,440 --> 02:00:23,160
Speaker 1: admit it's still surreal to me to think the number

2127
02:00:23,200 --> 02:00:26,680
Speaker 1: of teams in the Big Ten tournament. But what we

2128
02:00:26,800 --> 02:00:30,680
Speaker 1: know is that Northwestern has advanced. They will take on Indiana.

2129
02:00:31,360 --> 02:00:32,040
Speaker 1: What's that, Eddie?

2130
02:00:32,080 --> 02:00:32,360
Speaker 6: Okay?

2131
02:00:33,920 --> 02:00:36,360
Speaker 1: And joining us now, Eddie lets me know he is

2132
02:00:36,520 --> 02:00:38,760
Speaker 1: on and ready to go on the Joba House Colbrew

2133
02:00:38,760 --> 02:00:44,200
Speaker 1: Coffee guest line. Bruce Weber, the former Purdue Illinois several

2134
02:00:44,200 --> 02:00:47,560
Speaker 1: places coach joining US now working with the BTN and coach.

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Speaker 1: I gotta start with this. I'm watching the other night,

2136
02:00:49,680 --> 02:00:52,200
Speaker 1: and I apologize, I can't remember what game I'm watching,

2137
02:00:52,760 --> 02:00:54,160
Speaker 1: but as soon as it was over, they go to

2138
02:00:54,200 --> 02:00:56,800
Speaker 1: the studio and there there you are, analyzing the game

2139
02:00:56,840 --> 02:01:00,240
Speaker 1: as you do. And I immediately thought to myself, you know,

2140
02:01:00,280 --> 02:01:02,440
Speaker 1: I love Bruce Weber because this guy, seeming has never

2141
02:01:02,480 --> 02:01:03,200
Speaker 1: had a bad day.

2142
02:01:03,360 --> 02:01:05,000
Speaker 2: This guy's always in a good mood.

2143
02:01:05,080 --> 02:01:07,240
Speaker 1: I guess when you get to work around basketball and

2144
02:01:07,320 --> 02:01:09,520
Speaker 1: watch it and analyze it for a living, there's no

2145
02:01:09,600 --> 02:01:12,120
Speaker 1: reason to be in a bad mood. But you're always happy,

2146
02:01:12,200 --> 02:01:12,600
Speaker 1: aren't you.

2147
02:01:13,880 --> 02:01:16,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I enjoy life.

2148
02:01:16,040 --> 02:01:19,400
Speaker 9: I've been very, very fortunate, you know, to have the

2149
02:01:19,440 --> 02:01:21,600
Speaker 9: opportunities I have. I never you know, I had a

2150
02:01:21,680 --> 02:01:24,040
Speaker 9: dream of being a somewhere along the line of being

2151
02:01:24,080 --> 02:01:27,800
Speaker 9: a college coach, and I got that opportunity, and you

2152
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Speaker 9: just think of all the experience I've had and the

2153
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Speaker 9: people I've had been able to be around, and you know,

2154
02:01:33,640 --> 02:01:37,000
Speaker 9: from USA Basketball, to win a world you know, a

2155
02:01:37,040 --> 02:01:40,560
Speaker 9: World championship with that, to get to the final foards,

2156
02:01:41,160 --> 02:01:43,160
Speaker 9: you know, and then all the other you know, and

2157
02:01:43,200 --> 02:01:46,000
Speaker 9: then to be just the players we've associated with, and

2158
02:01:46,520 --> 02:01:48,880
Speaker 9: it's just a blast. And I, you know, to be

2159
02:01:48,920 --> 02:01:51,920
Speaker 9: at the United Center and watching these guys, you know,

2160
02:01:52,080 --> 02:01:54,160
Speaker 9: battle their butts off and the coaches go through what

2161
02:01:54,240 --> 02:01:57,840
Speaker 9: they want, you know, have to go through. It's just

2162
02:01:57,920 --> 02:02:00,600
Speaker 9: fun and I enjoy it and I try to bring

2163
02:02:00,800 --> 02:02:05,920
Speaker 9: some positivity to the studio and really promote the league.

2164
02:02:05,920 --> 02:02:07,600
Speaker 6: I love the league. I've been part of it for.

2165
02:02:07,640 --> 02:02:10,760
Speaker 9: Most of my life and grew up in Wisconsin watching

2166
02:02:11,120 --> 02:02:13,280
Speaker 9: you know, the Badgers win a long long time ago

2167
02:02:13,320 --> 02:02:17,640
Speaker 9: when they were not very good. And so it's just fun.

2168
02:02:18,400 --> 02:02:21,760
Speaker 1: Let's let's break down this tournament. And we talked to

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02:02:21,840 --> 02:02:24,800
Speaker 1: Dave Rebson about it yesterday. One of the things to

2170
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Speaker 1: me that is the most intriguing is, you know, we

2171
02:02:27,360 --> 02:02:29,880
Speaker 1: know that when you have the number of teams that

2172
02:02:29,960 --> 02:02:32,720
Speaker 1: are in this league, coach that obviously you're gonna have

2173
02:02:32,800 --> 02:02:35,760
Speaker 1: depth and you're gonna have versatility of style of play.

2174
02:02:36,400 --> 02:02:39,440
Speaker 1: But there are some really good teams. Purdue comes to

2175
02:02:39,520 --> 02:02:43,480
Speaker 1: mind that you know, obviously can flip a switch and

2176
02:02:43,520 --> 02:02:45,560
Speaker 1: win the whole thing for that matter, but yet they

2177
02:02:45,640 --> 02:02:48,160
Speaker 1: find themselves a seven seed, and then there are those

2178
02:02:48,280 --> 02:02:50,640
Speaker 1: above them that maybe we're a little bit of a surprise.

2179
02:02:51,040 --> 02:02:52,720
Speaker 2: So I'll throw it to you with this one.

2180
02:02:53,040 --> 02:02:56,360
Speaker 1: What team in this conference right now do you feel

2181
02:02:56,440 --> 02:03:00,920
Speaker 1: has most gotten everything out of themselves to be seated

2182
02:03:00,960 --> 02:03:03,640
Speaker 1: and slotted where they are within this conference tournament?

2183
02:03:04,680 --> 02:03:07,680
Speaker 9: I would say two teams, and I'm looking at the

2184
02:03:07,720 --> 02:03:10,680
Speaker 9: bracket right in front of me, and one would be Nebraska.

2185
02:03:11,600 --> 02:03:15,000
Speaker 9: You know that Fred has done an unbelievable job for

2186
02:03:15,200 --> 02:03:18,640
Speaker 9: what they have and and again they have good players.

2187
02:03:18,720 --> 02:03:21,360
Speaker 9: Don't get me wrong, you don't do what they've done

2188
02:03:21,520 --> 02:03:24,560
Speaker 9: if he didn't have good players. But they have maximized

2189
02:03:24,600 --> 02:03:28,640
Speaker 9: everything out of them. And then I still, you know,

2190
02:03:28,800 --> 02:03:32,000
Speaker 9: Michigan State Tomizzo has done a really.

2191
02:03:31,640 --> 02:03:33,160
Speaker 6: Really good job this year.

2192
02:03:34,480 --> 02:03:36,680
Speaker 9: You know, they were good last year, but then they

2193
02:03:36,760 --> 02:03:39,400
Speaker 9: lost a lot of nice pieces that those guys.

2194
02:03:39,160 --> 02:03:40,320
Speaker 6: Have continued to improve.

2195
02:03:40,400 --> 02:03:45,200
Speaker 9: Fears has made astronomical strides, and I think both those guys, Now,

2196
02:03:45,320 --> 02:03:49,680
Speaker 9: this is nothing against Michigan or Illinois. Dusty Maye deserved

2197
02:03:49,720 --> 02:03:51,760
Speaker 9: to be the coach of the Year along with Fred.

2198
02:03:51,880 --> 02:03:56,040
Speaker 9: I mean, you know, but Michigan has more talent. Illinois

2199
02:03:56,040 --> 02:03:59,640
Speaker 9: probably has more talent. And now there's and I've been

2200
02:03:59,680 --> 02:04:03,080
Speaker 9: through it, if there is something the coaching talent, and

2201
02:04:03,160 --> 02:04:04,880
Speaker 9: you know, a lot of times you don't get credit.

2202
02:04:04,960 --> 02:04:07,920
Speaker 9: I know when Matt Painter had Zach, everyone like didn't

2203
02:04:07,920 --> 02:04:09,560
Speaker 9: give Matt to credit that.

2204
02:04:09,560 --> 02:04:10,959
Speaker 6: He deserved because there.

2205
02:04:11,000 --> 02:04:14,960
Speaker 9: Is something to doing that, to having those good players

2206
02:04:14,960 --> 02:04:18,040
Speaker 9: getting a lot out of them. So all those guys

2207
02:04:18,040 --> 02:04:21,000
Speaker 9: have done a good job. But I like what Nebraska

2208
02:04:21,040 --> 02:04:22,240
Speaker 9: and Michigan State have done.

2209
02:04:22,720 --> 02:04:26,240
Speaker 1: What has changed for Purdue from last year to this

2210
02:04:26,920 --> 02:04:30,720
Speaker 1: that has seemingly caused a drop off in their perimeter defense?

2211
02:04:32,480 --> 02:04:35,480
Speaker 9: You know, I it's and I've talked with Matt about it,

2212
02:04:35,640 --> 02:04:38,640
Speaker 9: you know, off and on, and I know he's a

2213
02:04:38,680 --> 02:04:41,920
Speaker 9: little frustrated. You know, I don't know if it's just

2214
02:04:42,000 --> 02:04:45,680
Speaker 9: because they've gone with two bigs it's changed the dynamics

2215
02:04:45,720 --> 02:04:48,800
Speaker 9: of it. I don't, you know, I don't know, if

2216
02:04:48,880 --> 02:04:52,160
Speaker 9: you know, even last year, if you remember back, they

2217
02:04:52,280 --> 02:04:55,960
Speaker 9: got beat off the dribble and at times, and that

2218
02:04:56,200 --> 02:04:59,760
Speaker 9: was a problem they had, but they didn't have as

2219
02:04:59,840 --> 02:05:02,720
Speaker 9: much problem with this the ball screens like they did.

2220
02:05:03,160 --> 02:05:06,440
Speaker 9: You know, they have had this year. And you know,

2221
02:05:06,560 --> 02:05:10,800
Speaker 9: he's he's tried everything. I know that he's experimented with

2222
02:05:10,880 --> 02:05:14,160
Speaker 9: some stuff, and you know, defense is a lot of things.

2223
02:05:14,200 --> 02:05:16,560
Speaker 9: It's it's you know, first, it's pride. You got to

2224
02:05:16,600 --> 02:05:18,280
Speaker 9: you got to want to do it. It's got to

2225
02:05:18,320 --> 02:05:21,280
Speaker 9: be important to you. It's habits over the course of time.

2226
02:05:22,000 --> 02:05:25,000
Speaker 9: It's concepts that coaches, you know, put his schemes and

2227
02:05:25,080 --> 02:05:27,800
Speaker 9: things like that. So when you add them all together,

2228
02:05:28,840 --> 02:05:30,680
Speaker 9: you know, that's when you have teams that are really

2229
02:05:30,680 --> 02:05:34,760
Speaker 9: good defensively. And right now they just you know, it's

2230
02:05:34,800 --> 02:05:37,280
Speaker 9: it's pretty obvious they've they've struggled. You don't give up

2231
02:05:37,360 --> 02:05:40,040
Speaker 9: ninety something at home and in Wisconsin scores a lot

2232
02:05:40,080 --> 02:05:42,120
Speaker 9: of points on a lot of people. But you know,

2233
02:05:42,200 --> 02:05:45,600
Speaker 9: on Senior Day it's I'm sure they were very disappointed

2234
02:05:45,640 --> 02:05:48,160
Speaker 9: that they couldn't have done a better Jubba than that

2235
02:05:48,240 --> 02:05:49,000
Speaker 9: defensive end.

2236
02:05:49,960 --> 02:05:52,600
Speaker 1: Let me throw you, Bruce Weber's my guest from the

2237
02:05:52,600 --> 02:05:55,040
Speaker 1: Big Ten Network, coach. Let me throw you something that

2238
02:05:55,040 --> 02:05:58,000
Speaker 1: that I brought up yesterday. And you know more about

2239
02:05:58,040 --> 02:06:00,280
Speaker 1: this game obviously than I, So I want you to

2240
02:06:00,280 --> 02:06:02,560
Speaker 1: to feel free to tell me if this is absurd

2241
02:06:02,600 --> 02:06:05,720
Speaker 1: or if there's something to it. Okay, I always say

2242
02:06:05,840 --> 02:06:09,600
Speaker 1: that offensive line in the NFL, for example, that so

2243
02:06:09,840 --> 02:06:12,760
Speaker 1: much of that has to do with continuity of guys

2244
02:06:12,920 --> 02:06:15,800
Speaker 1: understanding the tendencies and the range of motion of their

2245
02:06:15,840 --> 02:06:17,880
Speaker 1: teammate next to them, and then it becomes almost a

2246
02:06:17,960 --> 02:06:20,920
Speaker 1: muscle memory of where gaps can be filled because you

2247
02:06:20,960 --> 02:06:22,440
Speaker 1: know that guy is or is not going to be

2248
02:06:22,480 --> 02:06:25,240
Speaker 1: in certain space. Purdue has a group of players that

2249
02:06:25,280 --> 02:06:27,880
Speaker 1: have played together for a long time. But when you

2250
02:06:27,920 --> 02:06:30,120
Speaker 1: add an Oscar Cluff, who's a very good player and

2251
02:06:30,160 --> 02:06:32,720
Speaker 1: filled a void for them, I get that, But he

2252
02:06:32,800 --> 02:06:35,839
Speaker 1: takes up such an operating area in terms of his space.

2253
02:06:36,520 --> 02:06:40,360
Speaker 1: Could that actually throw off the chemistry of guys understanding

2254
02:06:40,360 --> 02:06:43,120
Speaker 1: the tendencies of where everybody is on the floor and

2255
02:06:43,280 --> 02:06:47,040
Speaker 1: interrupt the flow of the continuity of a defense.

2256
02:06:47,720 --> 02:06:50,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, and again, I Oscar has done some really good

2257
02:06:50,480 --> 02:06:53,160
Speaker 9: things for them. I mean, you still think back what

2258
02:06:53,240 --> 02:06:55,839
Speaker 9: they did to Alabama, what they did the Texas Tech.

2259
02:06:56,040 --> 02:06:57,400
Speaker 6: Some of those early games.

2260
02:06:57,520 --> 02:07:00,240
Speaker 9: I mean, what they did to Wisconsin in January.

2261
02:07:00,280 --> 02:07:00,480
Speaker 2: You know.

2262
02:07:01,280 --> 02:07:03,880
Speaker 9: Uh, and he was part of that and he was rebounding,

2263
02:07:03,880 --> 02:07:07,760
Speaker 9: played his butt off. But there's no doubt it's changed

2264
02:07:07,760 --> 02:07:09,000
Speaker 9: the continuity of the team.

2265
02:07:09,040 --> 02:07:09,800
Speaker 6: There's you know, I.

2266
02:07:09,720 --> 02:07:13,000
Speaker 9: Think it's really changed for Trey coffin rent he doesn't

2267
02:07:13,040 --> 02:07:15,920
Speaker 9: have the space he has. It's easier to double team

2268
02:07:16,040 --> 02:07:18,800
Speaker 9: him because you've got two big now that you know

2269
02:07:18,920 --> 02:07:21,520
Speaker 9: usually go big on big on the trap. When they

2270
02:07:21,800 --> 02:07:25,240
Speaker 9: played a lot of small ball last year, you know,

2271
02:07:25,400 --> 02:07:29,200
Speaker 9: then you didn't have that opportunity. You had better spacing

2272
02:07:29,240 --> 02:07:31,800
Speaker 9: and you couldn't trap him. So and and then on

2273
02:07:31,880 --> 02:07:35,960
Speaker 9: the defensive end, you know, people exploit, uh, you know,

2274
02:07:36,040 --> 02:07:39,960
Speaker 9: their ball screens and get to get them spread out and.

2275
02:07:39,240 --> 02:07:40,800
Speaker 6: And and it's made it tough on him.

2276
02:07:40,880 --> 02:07:44,160
Speaker 9: And now again you look at Michigan, the best team

2277
02:07:45,360 --> 02:07:48,120
Speaker 9: and not only in the league but maybe in the country,

2278
02:07:48,560 --> 02:07:51,480
Speaker 9: and they play three bigs and and they're really good

2279
02:07:51,520 --> 02:07:51,840
Speaker 9: at it.

2280
02:07:52,000 --> 02:07:55,960
Speaker 6: So you know, I think it's you know, having another.

2281
02:07:55,600 --> 02:07:59,280
Speaker 9: Big like cluff Is is changed them. But you can't

2282
02:07:59,320 --> 02:08:02,840
Speaker 9: play with big. And I think Dustin May has shown.

2283
02:08:02,560 --> 02:08:05,800
Speaker 1: That when you look at Illinois, if you have a

2284
02:08:05,920 --> 02:08:09,760
Speaker 1: key player coach that late in the year that misses

2285
02:08:09,840 --> 02:08:11,920
Speaker 1: time and then comes back from injury and is an

2286
02:08:11,960 --> 02:08:14,080
Speaker 1: integral part of what you're doing, how long does it

2287
02:08:14,120 --> 02:08:18,000
Speaker 1: take to kind of regain, if you will, the cohesiveness

2288
02:08:18,200 --> 02:08:20,640
Speaker 1: when guys come back off injury or miss time.

2289
02:08:21,560 --> 02:08:23,240
Speaker 9: You know, it's kind of funny because I had them

2290
02:08:23,280 --> 02:08:25,440
Speaker 9: early in a couple of games and they were going

2291
02:08:25,480 --> 02:08:28,640
Speaker 9: through a lot of different things, injuries, bringing guys, and

2292
02:08:28,880 --> 02:08:31,480
Speaker 9: I even joked with coach Underwood, you've done a great

2293
02:08:31,600 --> 02:08:35,040
Speaker 9: job of you know, just like every game every day,

2294
02:08:35,080 --> 02:08:38,600
Speaker 9: if somebody knew they had illness, top Big Tommy was out,

2295
02:08:39,040 --> 02:08:41,960
Speaker 9: you know, then they so Acovich was out, they and

2296
02:08:42,320 --> 02:08:44,880
Speaker 9: they kept you know, it seemed like it ended up

2297
02:08:44,920 --> 02:08:48,080
Speaker 9: always being a positive and a part of that with Woggler,

2298
02:08:48,480 --> 02:08:50,440
Speaker 9: he got moved to the point guard, you know. But

2299
02:08:50,640 --> 02:08:54,400
Speaker 9: now they've lost a little bit of it since Boswell's

2300
02:08:54,400 --> 02:08:57,680
Speaker 9: got back, you know, and you know, I don't know

2301
02:08:57,760 --> 02:09:00,720
Speaker 9: if it's the spacing his him handle in the ball,

2302
02:09:00,800 --> 02:09:03,040
Speaker 9: I don't know if Wogler is you know, hit a

2303
02:09:03,160 --> 02:09:06,760
Speaker 9: little bit of a wall for as a freshman. You know,

2304
02:09:07,280 --> 02:09:09,640
Speaker 9: are just kind of a combination of all those and

2305
02:09:09,800 --> 02:09:13,160
Speaker 9: playing really good teachons to you know what they you know,

2306
02:09:13,360 --> 02:09:16,400
Speaker 9: they've had to play some pretty tough.

2307
02:09:16,160 --> 02:09:18,160
Speaker 6: Games and road games in this.

2308
02:09:18,120 --> 02:09:21,400
Speaker 9: Last thretch, so you know, you add them all together,

2309
02:09:21,520 --> 02:09:23,520
Speaker 9: they've they've hit a little bit of wall, but I

2310
02:09:23,560 --> 02:09:27,040
Speaker 9: think everyone's hit a wall in the league at some point.

2311
02:09:27,680 --> 02:09:29,720
Speaker 6: You go down the line, and even a.

2312
02:09:29,680 --> 02:09:31,880
Speaker 9: Michigan they only have one loss, but they've had some

2313
02:09:32,040 --> 02:09:36,880
Speaker 9: games where you know that they've they've not played quite

2314
02:09:37,000 --> 02:09:37,960
Speaker 9: up to where.

2315
02:09:37,720 --> 02:09:39,200
Speaker 6: They have at other times.

2316
02:09:39,280 --> 02:09:41,880
Speaker 9: So you know, that's just part of it. And it's

2317
02:09:41,920 --> 02:09:43,600
Speaker 9: a long season. It's a marathon.

2318
02:09:43,720 --> 02:09:45,680
Speaker 6: Now do you are you.

2319
02:09:45,640 --> 02:09:47,720
Speaker 9: Able to hit your stride at the right time and

2320
02:09:47,760 --> 02:09:50,240
Speaker 9: get the right matchups? And that's the key, not only

2321
02:09:50,280 --> 02:09:53,480
Speaker 9: this weekend but also next week as we go into

2322
02:09:53,520 --> 02:09:54,480
Speaker 9: the NCAA tournament.

2323
02:09:54,640 --> 02:09:57,720
Speaker 1: Okay, Indiana, they're in the tournament or they still have

2324
02:09:57,960 --> 02:09:58,560
Speaker 1: work to do.

2325
02:09:59,640 --> 02:10:02,000
Speaker 9: I think they still have work to do. But I'm

2326
02:10:02,000 --> 02:10:04,600
Speaker 9: a positive for Hoosier fans. You know, I just sit

2327
02:10:04,720 --> 02:10:07,000
Speaker 9: back and I don't study it like you know some

2328
02:10:07,080 --> 02:10:09,640
Speaker 9: of the Mike the Corsi and Sandy Katz and the

2329
02:10:09,680 --> 02:10:11,560
Speaker 9: guys that are in the you know that we're talking

2330
02:10:11,560 --> 02:10:14,240
Speaker 9: with in the green room. But a lot of people

2331
02:10:14,360 --> 02:10:18,280
Speaker 9: around here feel very good about their chances of getting in. Obviously,

2332
02:10:18,320 --> 02:10:23,080
Speaker 9: it would really help if they beat Northwestern today, and it's.

2333
02:10:22,920 --> 02:10:23,920
Speaker 6: Not going to be easy though.

2334
02:10:24,600 --> 02:10:26,520
Speaker 9: You know, it was just a couple of weeks ago

2335
02:10:27,080 --> 02:10:30,680
Speaker 9: that Northwestern beat them at their place. Northwestern is actually

2336
02:10:30,720 --> 02:10:34,760
Speaker 9: playing pretty good basketball down the stretch. They haven't won

2337
02:10:34,840 --> 02:10:37,840
Speaker 9: every game, but they've been in every game. They just

2338
02:10:38,000 --> 02:10:41,760
Speaker 9: they had they had a chance to beat Purdue. Recently

2339
02:10:41,840 --> 02:10:44,600
Speaker 9: they had Minnesota on the ropes and then they've won

2340
02:10:44,640 --> 02:10:47,920
Speaker 9: four of the other seven. So it is not going

2341
02:10:47,960 --> 02:10:49,120
Speaker 9: to be easy for the Hoosiers.

2342
02:10:49,160 --> 02:10:51,280
Speaker 1: Look, I think and I think the world of Chris

2343
02:10:51,320 --> 02:10:52,920
Speaker 1: Collins as a coach, though, you know what I mean,

2344
02:10:52,960 --> 02:10:54,640
Speaker 1: Like they may have down years, but I think they're

2345
02:10:54,640 --> 02:10:56,520
Speaker 1: always going to be at least well prepared because I

2346
02:10:56,560 --> 02:10:59,960
Speaker 1: think he can flat coach, lastly coach before they go.

2347
02:11:00,120 --> 02:11:02,920
Speaker 1: Bruce Webber my guest from the BTN, not Big ten,

2348
02:11:02,960 --> 02:11:06,360
Speaker 1: but I am curious your thoughts. Miami unbeaten in the

2349
02:11:06,400 --> 02:11:09,560
Speaker 1: regular season, should that alone merit them getting in?

2350
02:11:10,280 --> 02:11:11,800
Speaker 6: I you know, I.

2351
02:11:11,720 --> 02:11:14,360
Speaker 9: Think it helps them and it gets them over them.

2352
02:11:14,600 --> 02:11:17,880
Speaker 9: You know that Obviously I was a mid major guy,

2353
02:11:17,880 --> 02:11:20,400
Speaker 9: and I'm four mid majors. I was at Southern Illinois.

2354
02:11:20,400 --> 02:11:22,720
Speaker 9: We got at Large Bite. You can go back and look.

2355
02:11:22,760 --> 02:11:26,040
Speaker 9: I think it was between me, Matt Painter, and Chris Lowry.

2356
02:11:26,080 --> 02:11:27,560
Speaker 9: It was four out of five that we got at

2357
02:11:27,640 --> 02:11:30,360
Speaker 9: Large Village, which is not probably going to happen ever

2358
02:11:30,440 --> 02:11:36,200
Speaker 9: again for a conference that size, you know, but we

2359
02:11:36,440 --> 02:11:40,240
Speaker 9: when you say you couldn't get schedules, you know, get

2360
02:11:40,240 --> 02:11:42,920
Speaker 9: people to schedule. You you can go back and look

2361
02:11:42,920 --> 02:11:46,160
Speaker 9: at the year we went to the Sweet sixteen. We

2362
02:11:46,160 --> 02:11:49,120
Speaker 9: we had to go all over the country to get games.

2363
02:11:49,360 --> 02:11:51,760
Speaker 9: No one wanted to come to Carbondale, and you know,

2364
02:11:52,040 --> 02:11:52,880
Speaker 9: you can't get there.

2365
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Speaker 6: It's hard.

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Speaker 9: And but we played from California out over to the

2367
02:11:57,640 --> 02:12:00,480
Speaker 9: Virginia and a bunch of places in between. And I

2368
02:12:00,480 --> 02:12:03,200
Speaker 9: think we had two home games that year in non conference,

2369
02:12:03,320 --> 02:12:06,920
Speaker 9: so you know, and and what happened we got in

2370
02:12:07,120 --> 02:12:10,720
Speaker 9: and had large bid, So you know, again he's done

2371
02:12:10,720 --> 02:12:14,760
Speaker 9: an unlabled job. It's it's it's impressive to go undefeated.

2372
02:12:14,760 --> 02:12:18,040
Speaker 9: They've had to win some close games, but you know,

2373
02:12:18,120 --> 02:12:19,720
Speaker 9: I think they're going to get the nod to get in.

2374
02:12:19,920 --> 02:12:23,760
Speaker 9: But I still worry about the schedule being a difference maker.

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02:12:24,200 --> 02:12:26,960
Speaker 1: Coach. I appreciate the time as always. Man, it's always

2376
02:12:27,000 --> 02:12:29,520
Speaker 1: great stuff. And I know how much Dave enjoys working

2377
02:12:29,520 --> 02:12:31,280
Speaker 1: with you and you guys covering all of it, and

2378
02:12:31,320 --> 02:12:33,520
Speaker 1: we will enjoy watching all of it throughout this Big

2379
02:12:33,560 --> 02:12:34,120
Speaker 1: ten tournament.

2380
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Speaker 6: Much appreciated, Thank you, appreciate it.

2381
02:12:36,640 --> 02:12:38,720
Speaker 9: Good to talk to you. Hopefully we get to talk

2382
02:12:38,840 --> 02:12:41,400
Speaker 9: next week and the Hoosiers and the Boilers are in

2383
02:12:41,400 --> 02:12:41,920
Speaker 9: the tournament.

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02:12:41,960 --> 02:12:43,520
Speaker 1: That's right. We'd love to have you back on to

2385
02:12:44,320 --> 02:12:46,440
Speaker 1: nag it all out and figure it out. Coach appreciate it.

2386
02:12:47,120 --> 02:12:47,520
Speaker 6: Thank you.

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02:12:48,000 --> 02:12:50,360
Speaker 1: Chris Weber joining us on the Java House Cold Brew

2388
02:12:50,400 --> 02:12:53,640
Speaker 1: Coffee guest Line. I love talking to Coach Weber. Always

2389
02:12:53,680 --> 02:12:55,480
Speaker 1: in a good mood, right, It's almost as if it's

2390
02:12:55,560 --> 02:12:59,600
Speaker 1: like a breezy, sunny, beautiful day like it was last

2391
02:12:59,600 --> 02:13:01,600
Speaker 1: evening for that matter, and you're on the golf course

2392
02:13:01,640 --> 02:13:04,160
Speaker 1: when you hear Bruce Weber. Like April thirtieth, from ten

2393
02:13:04,280 --> 02:13:06,520
Speaker 1: thirty until five at the Legends Golf Club for the

2394
02:13:06,520 --> 02:13:09,720
Speaker 1: Fan Invitational Golf Outing. We will all be there helping

2395
02:13:09,800 --> 02:13:13,160
Speaker 1: out Franciscan Health and their foundation. They will have screenings

2396
02:13:13,240 --> 02:13:15,280
Speaker 1: set up, they'll be able to answer your questions for

2397
02:13:15,360 --> 02:13:18,200
Speaker 1: you and if you have anything that maybe you don't

2398
02:13:18,240 --> 02:13:20,080
Speaker 1: even want to ask your PCP about and you just

2399
02:13:20,080 --> 02:13:22,240
Speaker 1: want to get a quick thought or a comment from

2400
02:13:22,240 --> 02:13:24,400
Speaker 1: a health standpoint, Franciscan will be there for that, but

2401
02:13:24,840 --> 02:13:26,960
Speaker 1: also swinging the golf club around. We will all be

2402
02:13:27,000 --> 02:13:29,640
Speaker 1: there doing our shows and we had a great time

2403
02:13:29,680 --> 02:13:32,640
Speaker 1: doing this last year and look forward to having everybody

2404
02:13:32,680 --> 02:13:36,040
Speaker 1: out again this year. April thirtieth, for the golf outing.

2405
02:13:36,080 --> 02:13:37,960
Speaker 1: You can do it individually. You can bring a foursome

2406
02:13:38,000 --> 02:13:40,920
Speaker 1: as well. All of the information at one oh seven

2407
02:13:41,040 --> 02:13:44,880
Speaker 1: five thefan dot com. We come back. The big news

2408
02:13:44,920 --> 02:13:48,000
Speaker 1: other day involves the Colts and there is another in

2409
02:13:48,040 --> 02:13:51,080
Speaker 1: the mix beyond just Daniel Jones. We'll let you know

2410
02:13:51,080 --> 02:13:54,640
Speaker 1: about it next Now we know we knew that it

2411
02:13:54,680 --> 02:13:57,920
Speaker 1: was going to rain today, right, Yes, we didn't know

2412
02:13:57,960 --> 02:14:00,680
Speaker 1: this because it turned cat and dogs.

2413
02:14:01,000 --> 02:14:03,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.

2414
02:14:06,040 --> 02:14:08,320
Speaker 1: So what was your thought last night on BAM out

2415
02:14:08,320 --> 02:14:09,960
Speaker 1: of bio? I know that J and B was not

2416
02:14:10,000 --> 02:14:12,920
Speaker 1: a fan of the forty three free throws. Your thoughts

2417
02:14:12,920 --> 02:14:13,760
Speaker 1: on it, Eddie?

2418
02:14:14,960 --> 02:14:18,320
Speaker 2: I thought it was unethical in the way that he

2419
02:14:18,400 --> 02:14:21,879
Speaker 2: got there. In the aspect of Miami fouling to extend

2420
02:14:21,920 --> 02:14:26,200
Speaker 2: the game late just to give Bam as many possible

2421
02:14:26,280 --> 02:14:28,960
Speaker 2: chances to get to eighty three. I would have to

2422
02:14:28,960 --> 02:14:31,480
Speaker 2: go back and look, Jake, you would probably know this

2423
02:14:31,520 --> 02:14:33,640
Speaker 2: more or have a better recollection.

2424
02:14:33,720 --> 02:14:36,720
Speaker 1: I should say, was it like that when Kobe went

2425
02:14:36,760 --> 02:14:40,560
Speaker 1: for eighty one? Were they fouling late to extend the

2426
02:14:40,560 --> 02:14:42,760
Speaker 1: game so Kobe can stat pad him?

2427
02:14:42,920 --> 02:14:44,160
Speaker 2: You know, I don't recall that.

2428
02:14:44,200 --> 02:14:45,880
Speaker 1: What I do know is that in the game where

2429
02:14:45,920 --> 02:14:48,960
Speaker 1: he had sixty in his farewell he took fifty shots.

2430
02:14:49,360 --> 02:14:51,600
Speaker 1: I do feel like, yes, in the eighty one point game,

2431
02:14:52,040 --> 02:14:53,480
Speaker 1: he was also trying to get to the line.

2432
02:14:53,520 --> 02:14:56,640
Speaker 2: But like at the same time, it feels like almost

2433
02:14:56,640 --> 02:14:58,520
Speaker 2: any game when you look at it over sixty when

2434
02:14:58,560 --> 02:15:01,280
Speaker 2: you go back to Booker at the TD Guarden or

2435
02:15:02,080 --> 02:15:03,840
Speaker 2: Luca when he did it a couple of years ago.

2436
02:15:03,920 --> 02:15:06,360
Speaker 1: Didn't Booker have sixty two here? I don't think he

2437
02:15:06,400 --> 02:15:10,240
Speaker 1: had sixty two. I could be wrong, but I don't

2438
02:15:10,240 --> 02:15:11,520
Speaker 1: think he had sixty two. But I know he had

2439
02:15:11,560 --> 02:15:15,360
Speaker 1: seventy at Boston. Anytime you start to get over sixty points,

2440
02:15:15,400 --> 02:15:19,000
Speaker 1: I feel like you stat pad along well. And look

2441
02:15:19,040 --> 02:15:22,400
Speaker 1: when you start out with thirty one in the first quarter.

2442
02:15:22,520 --> 02:15:25,200
Speaker 1: I mean it was obvious that you do have nights

2443
02:15:25,240 --> 02:15:28,200
Speaker 1: where a guy is just totally in a zone, right,

2444
02:15:28,880 --> 02:15:33,080
Speaker 1: and clearly he was last night, so or you know,

2445
02:15:33,120 --> 02:15:36,960
Speaker 1: he organically had a double nickel for sure. Right after that,

2446
02:15:37,080 --> 02:15:41,880
Speaker 1: it gets it got to be a little much. But

2447
02:15:42,040 --> 02:15:45,880
Speaker 1: you know, last night I looked at the box score.

2448
02:15:47,600 --> 02:15:49,360
Speaker 1: I just happened to pull up the scores in the

2449
02:15:49,480 --> 02:15:55,879
Speaker 1: NBA and I pulled up the box score, and literally

2450
02:15:56,320 --> 02:15:59,600
Speaker 1: I thought it was a misprint. I'm like, at that point,

2451
02:15:59,600 --> 02:16:02,600
Speaker 1: he had seventy four and I'm like, this can't be right.

2452
02:16:02,640 --> 02:16:06,280
Speaker 1: There's no way he has seventy four points. And then

2453
02:16:06,320 --> 02:16:09,960
Speaker 1: of course, you know, I'm like, holy cow, and it

2454
02:16:10,120 --> 02:16:13,840
Speaker 1: just I think the thing that is the most you know,

2455
02:16:14,400 --> 02:16:16,560
Speaker 1: unique about it is he's about the last guy you

2456
02:16:16,600 --> 02:16:18,960
Speaker 1: would have expected it from, right. I mean, he's a

2457
02:16:19,120 --> 02:16:22,200
Speaker 1: very very good player, but yes, you would expect an

2458
02:16:22,200 --> 02:16:25,520
Speaker 1: eighty three point night from a perimeter player. And again,

2459
02:16:25,600 --> 02:16:29,280
Speaker 1: the thing that jumped out at me is the fact

2460
02:16:29,480 --> 02:16:33,040
Speaker 1: that he if he averages eighty three a game, I mean,

2461
02:16:33,080 --> 02:16:36,440
Speaker 1: excuse me, if he averages nineteen a game, he was

2462
02:16:36,560 --> 02:16:41,840
Speaker 1: still his scoring average away. He needed another average night

2463
02:16:42,160 --> 02:16:46,440
Speaker 1: of four quarter basketball on his average to match Wilt Chamberlain.

2464
02:16:46,879 --> 02:16:50,200
Speaker 1: I mean, that's mind blowing, right if you look at

2465
02:16:50,200 --> 02:16:54,119
Speaker 1: it in those in that sense, it's pretty remarkable.

2466
02:16:54,160 --> 02:16:57,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing. Like Miami Heat fans and people

2467
02:16:57,240 --> 02:16:59,760
Speaker 2: that cover the NBA have been wanting this kind of

2468
02:17:00,360 --> 02:17:04,880
Speaker 2: you know, aggressiveness and assertiveness from Bam offensively because he's

2469
02:17:04,920 --> 02:17:07,160
Speaker 2: got all the skills to be a guy that can

2470
02:17:07,200 --> 02:17:11,039
Speaker 2: score low twenties, mid twenties a game. But for whatever

2471
02:17:11,080 --> 02:17:12,880
Speaker 2: the reason, it just doesn't really work out.

2472
02:17:12,959 --> 02:17:13,039
Speaker 4: Now.

2473
02:17:13,080 --> 02:17:14,600
Speaker 2: A large part of that probably has to do with

2474
02:17:14,640 --> 02:17:16,680
Speaker 2: the fact that it is a lot harder for him

2475
02:17:16,680 --> 02:17:19,680
Speaker 2: to get in possession in the basketball. But they made

2476
02:17:19,720 --> 02:17:21,840
Speaker 2: it work last night for him to get up to

2477
02:17:21,879 --> 02:17:22,400
Speaker 2: eighty three.

2478
02:17:23,680 --> 02:17:24,440
Speaker 1: Last season.

2479
02:17:24,879 --> 02:17:25,039
Speaker 2: No.

2480
02:17:25,120 --> 02:17:27,800
Speaker 1: Two seasons ago January of twenty four, Devin Booker had

2481
02:17:27,800 --> 02:17:30,959
Speaker 1: a sixty two point game at Gamebridge, and that was

2482
02:17:31,000 --> 02:17:32,760
Speaker 1: one that was pretty organic. I mean, it was just

2483
02:17:32,800 --> 02:17:34,600
Speaker 1: it was kind of quiet. Hate to say quiet, it's

2484
02:17:34,640 --> 02:17:36,800
Speaker 1: weird to say it that way, but all of a sudden,

2485
02:17:36,800 --> 02:17:38,000
Speaker 1: you know, you look up and you're like, man, how

2486
02:17:38,000 --> 02:17:38,480
Speaker 1: many does he have?

2487
02:17:38,640 --> 02:17:38,760
Speaker 4: Now?

2488
02:17:38,840 --> 02:17:41,000
Speaker 1: Holy cow, man, he's got, you know, fifty five, fifty

2489
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Speaker 1: six And then for you know, at sixty two, JMV

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Speaker 1: you heard. The edge rush woes are now a thing

2497
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Speaker 1: of the past.

2498
02:18:05,000 --> 02:18:05,400
Speaker 2: For the Colts.

2499
02:18:05,520 --> 02:18:07,360
Speaker 10: Yeah, they got it. They got a big time producer

2500
02:18:07,440 --> 02:18:10,080
Speaker 10: right from the Jets. What do you have one last.

2501
02:18:09,879 --> 02:18:11,640
Speaker 1: Year seven and a half in his career.

2502
02:18:11,720 --> 02:18:15,920
Speaker 10: I will say this shout out for the chaos and

2503
02:18:16,160 --> 02:18:19,720
Speaker 10: all that entailed Max Crossby, because that saved the Colts

2504
02:18:20,000 --> 02:18:23,520
Speaker 10: from making mistake and bringing Trey Hendrick and Rowdim down.

2505
02:18:23,360 --> 02:18:23,920
Speaker 1: Ass in here.

2506
02:18:23,920 --> 02:18:25,200
Speaker 2: That's exactly what I said.

2507
02:18:25,560 --> 02:18:28,000
Speaker 1: That part's good. Ballard got saved from himself. He got

2508
02:18:28,040 --> 02:18:29,000
Speaker 1: saved from himself.

2509
02:18:29,000 --> 02:18:31,360
Speaker 10: You don't want to bring that broken down guy that's

2510
02:18:31,400 --> 02:18:33,560
Speaker 10: thirty two years of agent here for that amount of

2511
02:18:33,600 --> 02:18:36,320
Speaker 10: money and have him hanging around.

2512
02:18:36,320 --> 02:18:38,480
Speaker 1: If this season. The onely good thing about Jones is

2513
02:18:38,720 --> 02:18:39,160
Speaker 1: it can.

2514
02:18:39,040 --> 02:18:42,520
Speaker 10: Be one and done and you're going to sidestep a

2515
02:18:42,560 --> 02:18:45,720
Speaker 10: lot of that cash and be able to finally realize

2516
02:18:45,760 --> 02:18:48,680
Speaker 10: what you should have years ago, and that is it's

2517
02:18:48,720 --> 02:18:51,720
Speaker 10: time to start over if you don't have the results.

2518
02:18:51,720 --> 02:18:55,760
Speaker 10: So it also saves Jake the Colts from themselves.

2519
02:18:55,840 --> 02:18:57,279
Speaker 1: I think this two year deal.

2520
02:18:57,480 --> 02:18:58,680
Speaker 2: Am I am I a big believer?

2521
02:18:58,840 --> 02:18:59,879
Speaker 1: No, I'm not a big believer.

2522
02:19:00,120 --> 02:19:03,120
Speaker 10: However, at least if you're going to try to what

2523
02:19:03,240 --> 02:19:05,480
Speaker 10: is that kind of you? If you're going to be

2524
02:19:05,520 --> 02:19:08,280
Speaker 10: halfway pregnant in this case as they are. You kind

2525
02:19:08,280 --> 02:19:10,640
Speaker 10: of got one leg in and one leg out right here,

2526
02:19:10,760 --> 02:19:14,840
Speaker 10: and you're still leaving yourself the possibilities, unlike you did

2527
02:19:14,879 --> 02:19:17,480
Speaker 10: back of the NFL trade deadline with Sauce Gardner up

2528
02:19:17,520 --> 02:19:19,720
Speaker 10: pulling the plug on this thing, as you should have.

2529
02:19:19,840 --> 02:19:22,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I could not agree more in the fact

2530
02:19:22,720 --> 02:19:28,560
Speaker 1: that Ballard John at times gets saved from himself. I

2531
02:19:28,560 --> 02:19:30,800
Speaker 1: thought he got saved from himself with the McDaniels thing,

2532
02:19:30,879 --> 02:19:33,760
Speaker 1: for example. And now here's another one where because I

2533
02:19:33,760 --> 02:19:36,440
Speaker 1: think if they were going to give Hendrickson twenty five

2534
02:19:36,480 --> 02:19:39,520
Speaker 1: million year and Baltimore outbids them to give him twenty eight,

2535
02:19:39,520 --> 02:19:40,840
Speaker 1: if they were gonna give him twenty five a year,

2536
02:19:40,840 --> 02:19:43,040
Speaker 1: that would have been a mistake, big, big mistake.

2537
02:19:43,120 --> 02:19:45,760
Speaker 10: So yeah, shout out to Max Crosby and the Raiders

2538
02:19:45,800 --> 02:19:48,640
Speaker 10: and the UH and and the red ass what's his

2539
02:19:48,760 --> 02:19:51,160
Speaker 10: nuts from the uh what's his name?

2540
02:19:51,400 --> 02:19:52,119
Speaker 1: Helped me out here?

2541
02:19:52,120 --> 02:19:54,119
Speaker 10: Ready, the guy's name that yelled at me that time

2542
02:19:54,160 --> 02:19:57,600
Speaker 10: of the press box, Maga, Eric, what's his name? Who's

2543
02:19:57,640 --> 02:20:02,520
Speaker 10: the general man? DaCosta? Eric DaCosta? Huh yeah, yeah, he

2544
02:20:02,600 --> 02:20:03,520
Speaker 10: yelded Hagen and I.

2545
02:20:03,680 --> 02:20:05,800
Speaker 1: He yelded me. I was witnessed to all that it

2546
02:20:05,879 --> 02:20:06,280
Speaker 1: was the best.

2547
02:20:06,320 --> 02:20:08,640
Speaker 10: He's a red ass. Anything for him to go down

2548
02:20:08,680 --> 02:20:09,520
Speaker 10: the tubes, I'm all for.

2549
02:20:10,080 --> 02:20:10,840
Speaker 2: And I can't.

2550
02:20:10,680 --> 02:20:13,400
Speaker 1: Recall you were the instigator, and so they yelled at

2551
02:20:13,440 --> 02:20:14,640
Speaker 1: Yeahagan or Hagen was the ine.

2552
02:20:14,879 --> 02:20:16,280
Speaker 10: That's one of the big reasons why I went with

2553
02:20:16,320 --> 02:20:18,560
Speaker 10: we row HEREINDI dot com. Because he said, no, it

2554
02:20:18,600 --> 02:20:20,240
Speaker 10: was the bald guy sent down there, and I thought

2555
02:20:20,280 --> 02:20:23,119
Speaker 10: he was talking about Conrad Brunner, who is the bald.

2556
02:20:22,879 --> 02:20:24,920
Speaker 1: Guy down there. So for those who those at the

2557
02:20:24,920 --> 02:20:29,680
Speaker 1: bald guys, was the balding box. Years ago, the Ravens

2558
02:20:29,720 --> 02:20:32,039
Speaker 1: were playing and in the Colts press box we sit

2559
02:20:32,480 --> 02:20:35,480
Speaker 1: one rowe below where the executives of the opposing team sits.

2560
02:20:36,080 --> 02:20:38,879
Speaker 1: And you made a disparaging comment about the Ravens.

2561
02:20:39,000 --> 02:20:39,480
Speaker 2: I did not.

2562
02:20:39,760 --> 02:20:43,320
Speaker 10: Conrad Brunner made a disparage of comment about the lack

2563
02:20:43,400 --> 02:20:46,640
Speaker 10: of protection James Hurst, a Plainfield was providing on the

2564
02:20:46,720 --> 02:20:50,000
Speaker 10: Ravens offensive line, and Ozzie Newsom got mad and then

2565
02:20:50,040 --> 02:20:52,920
Speaker 10: passed it along to Da Costa and he got Hagen

2566
02:20:53,040 --> 02:20:55,800
Speaker 10: cornered in the hot dog line when they were eating lunch,

2567
02:20:55,879 --> 02:20:58,800
Speaker 10: thinking I was Hagen and he said, no, you said,

2568
02:20:58,840 --> 02:21:00,680
Speaker 10: and Hagen said it wasn't me, and he said, no,

2569
02:21:00,840 --> 02:21:01,720
Speaker 10: you're the bald.

2570
02:21:01,440 --> 02:21:03,879
Speaker 1: Guy that said it. And then evidently I was the

2571
02:21:03,920 --> 02:21:06,600
Speaker 1: bald guy. If I'm not mistaken, Hey, balding guy, Hagen

2572
02:21:06,640 --> 02:21:08,720
Speaker 1: said to Ozzie knew some man, I have your frame

2573
02:21:08,800 --> 02:21:09,760
Speaker 1: sports illustrated.

2574
02:21:09,840 --> 02:21:13,560
Speaker 10: Well, Ozzie Knewsom sent him an autograph picture was as

2575
02:21:13,600 --> 02:21:17,440
Speaker 10: an apology, which is just hilarious autograph picture.

2576
02:21:17,440 --> 02:21:19,320
Speaker 1: And then Eric DaCosta just.

2577
02:21:19,240 --> 02:21:21,840
Speaker 10: Went on being an autograph picture from Yeah, I got

2578
02:21:21,840 --> 02:21:24,560
Speaker 10: an autograph picture from him. I got an autograph picture

2579
02:21:24,800 --> 02:21:27,600
Speaker 10: of the X ray of Max Crosby from Eric DaCosta.

2580
02:21:27,760 --> 02:21:28,680
Speaker 1: That is what I'm getting.

2581
02:21:28,800 --> 02:21:31,360
Speaker 10: Hey, By the way, forty three field Nobody in this

2582
02:21:31,440 --> 02:21:36,039
Speaker 10: world ever, ever should be allowed or nobody should want

2583
02:21:36,080 --> 02:21:40,080
Speaker 10: to see one human being shoot forty three free throws

2584
02:21:40,120 --> 02:21:40,760
Speaker 10: in one game.

2585
02:21:41,680 --> 02:21:44,000
Speaker 1: The elks, I told you, who's been chopped about it?

2586
02:21:44,080 --> 02:21:44,240
Speaker 2: Right?

2587
02:21:44,280 --> 02:21:48,039
Speaker 10: Good got a mighty forty three times. That's a joke.

2588
02:21:48,400 --> 02:21:50,200
Speaker 1: By the way, do you remember when Shack went twelve

2589
02:21:50,200 --> 02:21:52,480
Speaker 1: for twelve from the free throw line against AU isn't

2590
02:21:52,480 --> 02:21:53,439
Speaker 1: that the weirdest?

2591
02:21:53,800 --> 02:21:54,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2592
02:21:54,160 --> 02:21:55,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was well, that was like the thirty six

2593
02:21:55,959 --> 02:21:58,480
Speaker 1: point effort. He yeah, twelve from the free flour line.

2594
02:21:58,480 --> 02:22:01,400
Speaker 1: He didn't hit twelve free throws for a season after that.

2595
02:22:02,120 --> 02:22:04,640
Speaker 10: They had some good dudes on that team. Was Don Redden?

2596
02:22:04,879 --> 02:22:06,760
Speaker 10: That wasn't the Don Reddin team? Don Redden was the

2597
02:22:06,760 --> 02:22:07,440
Speaker 10: eighty six team?

2598
02:22:07,480 --> 02:22:08,000
Speaker 2: I think, all right?

2599
02:22:08,040 --> 02:22:10,520
Speaker 1: No, But they had the kid who was the point

2600
02:22:10,520 --> 02:22:11,640
Speaker 1: guard that Jamie Brandon.

2601
02:22:11,720 --> 02:22:16,160
Speaker 2: Was that his name? I just no, that was?

2602
02:22:16,280 --> 02:22:18,440
Speaker 10: That was ninety two, so that I'm always thinking of

2603
02:22:18,480 --> 02:22:21,600
Speaker 10: the eighty What the eighty seven LSU team with Nikita

2604
02:22:21,640 --> 02:22:27,840
Speaker 10: Wilson and Steve Woods jas he's a badass and then everybody.

2605
02:22:27,520 --> 02:22:28,920
Speaker 1: Thought he was into voodoo?

2606
02:22:29,280 --> 02:22:29,640
Speaker 2: Who was.

2607
02:22:31,240 --> 02:22:32,800
Speaker 1: Who was the kid that missed the free throw? He

2608
02:22:32,840 --> 02:22:35,400
Speaker 1: was a freshman missed the free throw? That would have

2609
02:22:35,480 --> 02:22:36,199
Speaker 1: in eighty seven?

2610
02:22:36,280 --> 02:22:38,560
Speaker 10: But the late Ricky Blanton? Which team was he on?

2611
02:22:39,200 --> 02:22:40,160
Speaker 10: What's the LSU team?

2612
02:22:40,240 --> 02:22:42,240
Speaker 1: He would have been like ninety right? Or is he

2613
02:22:42,320 --> 02:22:43,440
Speaker 1: the late Don Redden?

2614
02:22:43,480 --> 02:22:45,600
Speaker 10: The late one of the two would be no longer

2615
02:22:45,600 --> 02:22:48,160
Speaker 10: with us of significance of an LSU team.

2616
02:22:48,200 --> 02:22:49,720
Speaker 1: It was gonna drive me crazy. The name of the

2617
02:22:49,720 --> 02:22:53,959
Speaker 1: freshman that missed the free throw? And and was it Hilly?

2618
02:22:54,520 --> 02:22:57,640
Speaker 1: Was it something Darryl Joe or something like that, Daryl Jerald,

2619
02:22:57,720 --> 02:23:01,199
Speaker 1: Joe would yes, that might be right. Yeah, the ninety

2620
02:23:01,240 --> 02:23:04,440
Speaker 1: two team, by the way, I know Eddie's going to

2621
02:23:04,480 --> 02:23:05,879
Speaker 1: be telling me here in a second that we got

2622
02:23:05,879 --> 02:23:06,480
Speaker 1: to wrap it up.

2623
02:23:06,520 --> 02:23:07,520
Speaker 2: But too bad, Eddie.

2624
02:23:07,520 --> 02:23:09,720
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's Jamie Brandon that was from Chicago

2625
02:23:09,760 --> 02:23:12,160
Speaker 1: that was the point guard on that team in ninety two.

2626
02:23:13,760 --> 02:23:16,280
Speaker 1: It is amazing some of the teams that Dale Brown

2627
02:23:16,360 --> 02:23:20,680
Speaker 1: had shack Jamie Brandon yep. And then oh, Gert Hammock.

2628
02:23:21,120 --> 02:23:22,039
Speaker 2: Gert Hammock.

2629
02:23:22,080 --> 02:23:25,800
Speaker 1: How can we forget Gert Hammock. I remember it was

2630
02:23:25,879 --> 02:23:27,960
Speaker 1: Jose or no, was Nikita Wilson is the one that

2631
02:23:28,000 --> 02:23:28,760
Speaker 1: missed the turnaround?

2632
02:23:28,760 --> 02:23:30,679
Speaker 2: Oberdean Garrett was.

2633
02:23:30,959 --> 02:23:34,680
Speaker 10: And Cincinnati right there. Forty three free throws in one

2634
02:23:34,800 --> 02:23:37,560
Speaker 10: games a joke. The NBA should be embarrassed by that.

2635
02:23:38,240 --> 02:23:41,440
Speaker 10: I mean, you're talking about finding teams for tanking and such.

2636
02:23:41,440 --> 02:23:44,720
Speaker 10: You should be embarrassed by that. Forty three free throws

2637
02:23:44,720 --> 02:23:45,200
Speaker 10: in one game.

2638
02:23:45,240 --> 02:23:46,760
Speaker 2: Ricky Blanton was on the eighty seventeen.

2639
02:23:46,920 --> 02:23:49,400
Speaker 1: Ricky Blanton All right, John's up next. We will be

2640
02:23:49,440 --> 02:23:51,480
Speaker 1: back with you at noon tomorrow, and I thank you

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02:23:51,520 --> 02:23:52,600
Speaker 1: for listening to Quey Company.