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Speaker 1: And we have seen people like Susie Javoroski, the failed

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Speaker 6: The bullding was the seventy two counties of unwashed pisons

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Speaker 1: Look, this guy is not like an outlier in terms

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what's gonna happen here. All right.

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Speaker 1: So there's been a lot of talk about a new

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Speaker 4: He says, don't bring a casino to Indianapolis, And we'll

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Speaker 2: Coming up from ninety three WIBC. Well got and trying

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Speaker 1: Our next guest says, not so much. Kennel Casey, show

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 1: All right, So tell us a lot of people sit

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Speaker 7: Right, yeah, So we have a little over ten casinos

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Speaker 3: Uh there. Most of them are placed in kind of

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Speaker 7: Part of that's reflection of the fact that you know,

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Speaker 1: They didn't want anybody in a population that are having

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Speaker 7: And then and then the other factor too, is like

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Speaker 1: And there was one in the northern part of the

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Speaker 1: So what real quick, why do you think these casinos

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Speaker 7: I'm on one hundred percent sure that's part of it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I remember years ago when I was pondering

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Speaker 7: That's another factor too. There's one in Shelbyville one and

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Speaker 7: You know, if you live within ten miles of a casino,

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Speaker 1: Where do you Okay, wait with the Jacob Stewart for

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Speaker 4: Where do you.

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Speaker 1: Find data on that?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 1: Who does data on if you live with an X

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Speaker 3: Well, it's universe.

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Speaker 7: A lot of the information I got was from the

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Speaker 1: I took in class in the history of the Beatles

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Speaker 7: But it's like, there's this there's a lot of data

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Speaker 3: Uh No, it was it was a lab Oh you

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Speaker 1: Yes, what do you do?

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Speaker 1: And you know, so gambling's bad for your drinking's bad

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Speaker 3: Right in the way.

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Speaker 7: People actually study this is that they look at the

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Speaker 7: of accessibility. If you have like a tourist trap casino

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Speaker 7: poverty and then you're going to come around and use

439
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Speaker 7: that tax money for what to you know, give them

440
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Speaker 7: you know something else, Like it just doesn't make sense.

441
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Speaker 3: It's like, how to phrase it, it's basically, my.

442
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Speaker 1: Tax would be subsidizing the casino.

443
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Speaker 7: Then at this point, right exactly, it's yeah, it's it's

444
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Speaker 7: making the problem worse.

445
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Speaker 4: And Okay, so we've heard your theory on this. What

446
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,879
Speaker 4: about the decision makers. What are they thinking?

447
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Speaker 7: Yeah, so so far, the decision makers that I've talked to,

448
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Speaker 7: as far as local decision makers, are a lot more

449
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Speaker 7: supportive of the casino in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: You're talking like hog Set.

451
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Speaker 3: Yes.

452
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Speaker 7: So Senator Freeman has for a long time been supportive

453
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Speaker 7: of this casino. And I talked to him about this issue,

454
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Speaker 7: and he mentioned that he'd been working with some local

455
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Speaker 7: officials in the hawk Set administration about you know, where

456
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Speaker 7: could we potentially.

457
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Speaker 3: Locate a casino. Uh, they seem to be supportive, you know.

458
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Speaker 7: From what I've heard, and uh, you know, if you

459
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Speaker 7: look at some of the other locations that were mentioned

460
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Speaker 7: in this gambling study, Northeastern Indiana, which was actually the

461
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Speaker 7: top spot, the local official there, Senator Johnson, is not

462
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Speaker 7: currently supportive.

463
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Speaker 1: And they just voted one down up there, didn't.

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Speaker 3: They exactly exactly?

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Speaker 7: And a big part of that issue was So the

466
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Speaker 7: senator that's been pushing a lot of this has been

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Speaker 7: Senator z from Northeastern Indiana, who's now on.

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Speaker 1: The potentially on the IRC. He is he may be

469
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Speaker 1: out of it, he may no longer be a problems

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Speaker 1: than nine.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, so he's he wanted to relocate a struggling,

472
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Speaker 7: struggling casino to New Haven, even though it's outside of

473
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Speaker 7: his district. He told me he was doing it on

474
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Speaker 7: behalf of the mayor there because the local officials weren't supportive.

475
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Speaker 7: But that was like a huge, you know, a huge

476
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Speaker 7: issue when it came to people coming to the State

477
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Speaker 7: House to testify against it, because they seem just.

478
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Speaker 1: Hoping to catch everywhere. That's the most political thing ever.

479
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Speaker 1: The people aren't supportive of it, the politician aren't supportive

480
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Speaker 1: of it. But my buddy, the mayor's supportive of it,

481
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Speaker 1: so I'll take care of him.

482
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So, needless to say, people were not happy.

483
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Speaker 7: They showed up to the State House en mass, some

484
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Speaker 7: people I know, and they you know, they ended up

485
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Speaker 7: killing the bill, I think shortly after that testimony happened.

486
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Speaker 7: So that died, and then the bill got converted into

487
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Speaker 7: a casino study to decide where the best location for

488
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Speaker 7: a casino to be. And funny enough, first the number

489
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Speaker 7: one location was also in northeastern Indiana, also outside of

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Speaker 7: Senator's as district.

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Speaker 1: Hey it's Jacob Stewart's I guess from indies are a

492
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Speaker 1: columnist had any column up out about the harmful effects

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Speaker 1: of a downtown casino here in Indianapolis. Hey, before I

494
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Speaker 1: let you go redistricting right, Like, it's getting down to

495
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Speaker 1: the nitty gritty. People are coming out on both sides.

496
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Speaker 1: You've been pretty Adam that you thought it was going

497
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Speaker 1: to go through.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I'm a little bit more doubtful now,

499
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Speaker 7: you know, there are several no voices coming out.

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Speaker 3: I'm still I'm still slightly on the side of I.

501
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Speaker 7: Think it's going to end up happening, But you know,

502
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Speaker 7: I won't be surprised at this point if it doesn't get.

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Speaker 1: A reason you think that these people are starting to

504
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Speaker 1: come out with the nose. I mean, the nose has

505
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Speaker 1: been kind of quiet and nice. Bassler and Lysig and

506
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Speaker 1: those people. Any reason you think now they're getting a

507
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Speaker 1: little more mouthy than they've been before that.

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Speaker 7: I think they're just hopeful that leadership is against it

509
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Speaker 7: enough to where they'll be shielded for many consequences. And

510
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Speaker 7: I think that's a big part of it. You know,

511
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Speaker 7: there's also this factor of I think, especially among the base,

512
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Speaker 7: the grass fruits that have been pushing for redistricting, like

513
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Speaker 7: what's the point of you know, giving you know, the

514
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Speaker 7: Trump administration a nine oh map in Indiana if they're

515
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Speaker 7: going to you know, recently Trump said something about American

516
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Speaker 7: workers being unskilled, and I need a bunch of h one.

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Speaker 3: BV says, what's.

518
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Speaker 7: The point of, you know, giving a nine oh map

519
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Speaker 7: If we have the administration is just going to sell

520
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Speaker 7: us out.

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Speaker 1: They always come down to our side, Casey eventually. Sometimes

522
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Speaker 1: it takes you six months, but they always had the

523
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Speaker 1: Jacob Stewart find him at Indistar dot com. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: thank you.

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Speaker 4: It's Kennily Casey on ninety three WIBC.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So people are all upset about this thing with

527
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Speaker 1: Apple and your passport being able to be in your

528
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,719
Speaker 1: Apple wallet. Yes, and I don't understand why people are

529
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Speaker 1: so up in arms over this. No one's being forced

530
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 1: to do this, right, correct, It's not like you're being

531
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Speaker 1: held at gunpoint. You must upload your passport to your

532
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Speaker 1: Apple wallet. So you would do it if you chose

533
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Speaker 1: to do it of your own free will and volition,

534
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Speaker 1: because you think the ease of being able to have

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Speaker 1: it there is better than just having to take a

536
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Speaker 1: physical passport around with you, even though.

537
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Speaker 2: It doesn't replace the physical passport.

538
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Speaker 1: It's just like in addition to oh wait wait, so

539
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: you can't show that and you can't.

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00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 4: No, you can at two hundred and fifty different TSA checkpoints.

541
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 4: Not every state is allowing it Arizona, California, Colorado, Georgia, Hawaii, Iowa, Maryland, Montana,

542
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 4: New Mexico, Ohio, and Puerto Rico. We'll all accept the

543
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 4: Apple digital ID from your Apple wallet.

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Speaker 1: Okay, But what are people upset about? If you want

545
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Speaker 1: to do it, it's not ever than the TikTok thing. Right,

546
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 1: Like you and I've talked about this. I'm never gonna

547
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Speaker 1: be on the TikTok because I don't want to help China.

548
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 1: But if you want to be on the TikTok, I'm

549
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: gonna laugh at you and go the he that's funny.

550
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 1: You're giving all your stuff to China, and I'm gonna

551
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: go about my merry way. But people are like up

552
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: in arms over Apple people uploading their passport to their

553
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: Apple wallet. Why.

554
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Speaker 4: Well, I think it's because an indication of what's to come.

555
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 4: What are the future implications of having a digital ID.

556
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Speaker 2: We've talked this in the past.

557
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Speaker 1: But the government isn't making you do it. Not These

558
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: people just come off as people who want to find

559
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 1: something to be angry about rather than like, if someone

560
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,479
Speaker 1: chooses to do it, you can go I don't think

561
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: that's very wise and then go, well, it's not me,

562
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: so I don't really care. But there are people who

563
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Speaker 1: are just a litt bit about this.

564
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

565
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 4: So Apple says that all the passport data will be

566
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Speaker 4: encrypted on the device. It's protected by your face ID

567
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 4: or your touch ID, and what you have to do

568
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 4: is you have to upload your photo of from your

569
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 4: physical passport and then on the back of your passport

570
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 4: there's this little embedded chip and you have to scan

571
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 4: that with your phone and then it will go into

572
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Speaker 4: your Apple wallet. And Apple says they do have future

573
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Speaker 4: plans for expansion with this, with business use and also

574
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Speaker 4: online age verification. So I think the concern that people

575
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Speaker 4: have not only privacy concerns around Apple tracking ID usage,

576
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Speaker 4: but future implications of what the digital ID could become.

577
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 1: But that's with government oversight right right, making you do it? Yeah,

578
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: like I don't. I mean, first of all, the best

579
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Speaker 1: you know how, the best way to not upload your

580
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Speaker 1: passport to the.

581
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Speaker 2: Apple wallet, don't just don't do it.

582
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Speaker 1: Just don't have a passport. Oh, I just don't have option.

583
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 1: I mean, why would you want to leave the country

584
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: anyway with all the stuff going on around the world.

585
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: I don't understand that at all. But everyone these people

586
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: wants to go. You can still take your little flip book, right,

587
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: you can still with your photo on it, and then

588
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 1: you just show it and you go about your merry way,

589
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: right yeah. Correct.

590
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 4: And they're saying that it's supposed to save time going

591
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 4: through TSA. How that's the part I don't understand.

592
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't get that either.

593
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: Because they still got to look at it review.

594
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 4: It still got to be scammed, right checks. It's not

595
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 4: like you just flash it and you're on your way

596
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 4: now when you.

597
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: Leave the country, because you've left the country before, right

598
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: when you go to another country, you get off the airplane,

599
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: and then you've got.

600
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Speaker 2: To show yeah, and you go through customs.

601
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Speaker 1: And look at it, and they make sure what you're

602
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: a legitimate person.

603
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 4: Correct, and that you actually match the person that's on

604
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Speaker 4: the passport.

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00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: Right, And do they ask you questions? Have you been

606
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: grilled before?

607
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 3: No?

608
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: Not really really no, I mean you look, you look.

609
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 3: I don't love.

610
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 2: Suss, so I get through pretty easily.

611
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So I just I didn't understand what

612
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: was going on with this because I, like, i'd seen

613
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Speaker 1: people on the internet, and then I started reading a

614
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: little bit about it, and I was like, like, nobody's

615
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: being forced to do this. You're you're choosing to do this,

616
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: correct and if you want to.

617
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 2: But will we be forced to do it in the sure?

618
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a different conversation. I have enough things to

619
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: bitch about now that I'm being forced to do, and

620
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: I'm time to focus on.

621
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Speaker 4: What happens if you, like lose your phone or your

622
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 4: battery dies and you don't have the physical copy with you.

623
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Speaker 1: Well, I've always thought this about the tickets, right, because

624
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: they're all the whole thing with the tickets now where

625
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Speaker 1: they're not you know, I don't understand any.

626
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 4: Of that works.

627
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 2: But I put the ticket in my wallet.

628
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: Okay, But my point is what if you get there

629
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Speaker 1: and it's not working for some reason, you don't get

630
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: to dinner? Game? I guess, And why did we get Look,

631
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Speaker 1: there was something magical about the ticket, the idea of

632
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Speaker 1: I have the ticket, you have the golden I have

633
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: the thing that I can keep that. Then I remember,

634
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: how am I supposed to have like a physical memento

635
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: of something on a phone.

636
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Speaker 4: Well, I'm sorry, you can't scrap book it with it?

637
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Speaker 1: Then, well that's what I'm saying, Like, you can't go

638
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: back and look at that anymore, because there's something magical

639
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: about Like when I went to see the Rolling Stones

640
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Speaker 1: at the track in twenty fifteen. I still have that ticket.

641
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: And the ticket is so cool because it's like the

642
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: Rolling Stones logo. He's behind the white and black checkered flag.

643
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Speaker 1: It's obviously specifically made for an event at the Indianapolis

644
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: Motor Speedway. It's all the memories of being there, like

645
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: it all floods back seeing that ticket.

646
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that doesn't exist here.

647
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 4: That's great if you're having some amazing destiny, some vacation.

648
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 4: But for the business traveler, do you think they're keeping

649
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 4: their ticket from you know, Indianapolis to Dubuke.

650
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: Well no, but but we're talking. But we've already moved

651
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: past that casey, we've already moved. We're onto the ticket,

652
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: the ticket, the virtual ticket. I've decided now this is

653
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: where I'm going to make my stand is the virtual ticket.

654
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: K I think this is the most stupid thing ever

655
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Speaker 1: that I don't get a physical ticket because for a

656
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: while they let you print out a piece of paper.

657
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: Maybe they still do. It's been a long time since

658
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Speaker 1: I've been to anything that required a ticket. Do they

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Speaker 1: still let you proNT out a physical piece of paper?

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Speaker 1: Cab you go to stuff all the time? You do

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Speaker 1: they still let you hand you know, it used to

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Speaker 1: be you can put this in your phone, or you

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Speaker 1: can print this thing out. I would print it out.

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Speaker 1: Do they still let you do that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: That's usually the first thing I do and I go

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Speaker 7: to the airport, is I just go to those kiosks

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Speaker 7: and you print put in your info and you can

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Speaker 7: print it.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about tickets to stuff, Kevin. I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: like I go to the Pacers game.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, generally speak anyan. I'm sure you could.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you can still do that, But then you just

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Speaker 1: have a piece of paper. Who wants to scrap book that?

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Speaker 1: Look I printed this out on at the heavy card

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Speaker 1: stock the ticket. Yeah, it's got like the I don't

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Speaker 1: know anyway.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, you know at the airport though, since I did

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Speaker 4: just recently fly.

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Speaker 1: Kevin sitting over here, like this guy's such a miserable person.

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Speaker 1: I've had to work with him for five years.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: Oh poor Kevin. It's Friday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm hanging in there.

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Speaker 2: I asked him how he was, and he said, looking

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Speaker 2: forward to the weekend.

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Speaker 1: In fairness. In fairness, though, I've told Kevin for years

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Speaker 1: he needs to get the hell away from me and

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Speaker 1: that would be the best career move for him, and

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Speaker 1: he hasn't done it.

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Speaker 2: He's not listening.

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Speaker 4: But when I see people with the ticket at the

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Speaker 4: airport now, Rob, I think that they're not digitally literate.

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Speaker 2: That's what I think when I see it, like, they're

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Speaker 2: not They're not into twenty twenty five yet.

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Speaker 1: Who cares.

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Speaker 4: There's an easier way now, But easier for you right

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Speaker 4: there on your phone.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's not for them because what if, like you said,

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Speaker 1: what if that one time your phone dives or.

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Speaker 2: That's why you got a ABC. There'll always be charging.

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Speaker 1: Apple, But what about an apple? Is there? It could be

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Speaker 1: an outage? Could there be something where it's down?

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Speaker 2: These are the questions, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, when it's not down, when you have that little

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Speaker 1: piece of paper, have the icycle take I understand it's

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Speaker 1: like people with the grocery store that pay for the

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Speaker 1: people to shop for them. You know, you know when

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Speaker 1: your order doesn't.

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Speaker 2: Get screwed up when you do it yourself, you do

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Speaker 2: it yourself.

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Speaker 1: Well, they don't have the thing I want, I just

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Speaker 1: go about the next thing. No replacement. No, that wasn't

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Speaker 1: what I wanted, not the wrong size. You just go

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Speaker 1: to the next thing.

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Speaker 4: So we had a Republican state senator announcing that he

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Speaker 4: is opposed to redrawing Indiana's congressional districts. The redistricting talk

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Speaker 4: that's been going on since the summer continues next on

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Speaker 4: ninety three WIBC