1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: So Joe Rogan is speaking out about Trump. 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I once say vocal supporter of Donald Trump, he's 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 2: now publicly being critical of him and his administration in 4 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 2: their handling of the Jeffrey Epstein case. Joe Rogan car 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 2: accused Donald Trump of gaslighting his own base. 6 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: Well, he is. I think that's a great way to 7 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: describe it. Because we just talked about the We have 8 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: the audio of Trump that we just played that's earlier 9 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: on in the show Kevin of him talking about Okay, 10 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: So there's two things that are in this audio that 11 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: I want people to listen to. One is he gives 12 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: a very specific amount of times that he claims Bill 13 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 1: Clinton went to went to Epstein Island. And two he 14 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: then what there's some very interesting terminology that he uses 15 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: on not going to the island. So let's take a listen. 16 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 3: I'm glad I did if you and other truth And 17 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 3: by the way, I never went to the island and 18 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 3: Bill Clinton went there supposedly twenty eight times. I never 19 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 3: went to the island. But Larry Summers, I hear went there. 20 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 3: He was the head of Harvard and many other people 21 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 3: that are very big people. Nobody ever talks about them. 22 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 3: I never had the privilege of going to his island, 23 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 3: and I did turn it down, but a lot of 24 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 3: people in Palm Beach were invited to his island. 25 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: Okay, so okay, this is up time. Okay, so come 26 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: several things here. And this is where people get mad. 27 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: It's the bull crap. Cut the bull crap. Okay, where 28 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: are you getting that Bill Clinton went twenty eight times? 29 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 2: Twenty eight times? Because a normal person would have just 30 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 2: said a couple dozen. 31 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: Right, or how do you know he went at all? 32 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: Are you just pulling it out of your ass? Okay, 33 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: let's start to get to the bottom of why Trump 34 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: is so mad about Epstein because Trump made a lot 35 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: of stuff, was just winging it right, and he was 36 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: saying anything to get elected. He's a politician. That's what 37 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: it's starting to look like now that that you were 38 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: willing to say whatever in order to get elected, and 39 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: now you're not following through on it. So where did 40 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: you get twenty eight times? According to who right? If 41 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: there is some evidence of that, if the government has 42 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 1: some evidence of that, then put that out. That's what 43 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: we want to see. 44 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 2: Well, and that's why Joe Rogan is saying that they're 45 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 2: gas lighting their base because they just claimed that there 46 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 2: was no client list to release. But now Bill Clinton 47 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 2: was there twenty eight times. 48 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: Let's go to the second part of this where he 49 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: says I didn't have the privilege of going to the island. 50 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: You know, you said, maybe he's being sarcastic. Well, then 51 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 1: you talk about not being able to read a room. 52 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: If you're being sarcastic or trying to poke any sort 53 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: of fun out of that, like that, what a horrible thing. 54 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: And if it's not, then what are you saying I 55 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 1: didn't have the privilege of going to that? It was 56 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: what a bizarre, totally inappropriate word to use. And then third, 57 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: did he not admit I was invited to go? 58 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: He did, but he said no. 59 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: Okay, so you work close enough to Epstein they get 60 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: at right, So now you can't say it's utterly ridiculous, Like, Casey, 61 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: were you ever invited to Epstein island? 62 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: No? Absolutely not. 63 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: I was not invited either. Why because we didn't know 64 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein, we'd have any relationship with it. If you're 65 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: close enough to get invited to some guy's private island, 66 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: that means you have some relationship with him. Again, I'm 67 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: not the person who thinks that Trump was doing anything 68 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: if ferries are untoward or these horrible, unspeakable things. But 69 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: when you will get caught with inconsistencies, we'll just call 70 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: them inconsistencies. Then people start going again sound familiar. When 71 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: you get caught in one inconsistency after another and you 72 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: can't tell a coherent story and you can't give a 73 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: straight story. 74 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 2: Live feeds a lie, and then people are. 75 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: Like, Okay, now we've caught you in multiple things that 76 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: don't add up. What else are you hiding? 77 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: So Rogan went on to say, this one's a line 78 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 2: in the sand. This is it. He said, Trump was 79 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: going to come in, drain the swamp, figure everything out, 80 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: and then they're trying to gaslight you on that. So 81 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 2: this is going to remain a focal point until it's 82 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 2: all out there, until everybody knows right what happened. 83 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: When you get caught with something that doesn't look good, 84 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: the best thing to do is just explain it and 85 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: be done with it. As a politician, I knew the guy. 86 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: I associated with the guy. I had multiple meetings with 87 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: the guy. He was a rich financier. I was in 88 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: the real estate industry. We talked about a couple deals. 89 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: I got to know the guy very casually, and you know, 90 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: that was the extent of our relationship. So, yeah, was 91 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: I friendly with him? Sure? Did I know the guy? Sure? 92 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 1: Did I associate with him on multiple occasions. Sure, did 93 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: anything to do anyth of this? No, of course not. 94 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: That's utterly ridiculous, that's how you would do it. But 95 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: instead Trump has made it worse, like like, oh, I 96 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: didn't know the guy to blah blah blah di this that. Well, 97 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: there's pictures of you guys, tog, there's multiple Hey, I 98 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: don't do drawings. Well, there's a bunch of drawings that 99 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: are currently for sale. I didn't really knew the guy. 100 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: What I got invited to is private island, like all 101 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: these things that'd match up. 102 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 2: Wait, he's embarrassed by he's embarrassed by his past that 103 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 2: he was even in business of any sort with this guy. 104 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 2: Elon Musk, you know, was really critical pointing out that 105 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 2: his name appeared in the documents related to Epstein, and 106 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 2: that's where they started to fall apart. But it's the 107 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 2: trickle of truth which makes it worse. It's just a 108 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 2: little bit here, a little bit there. You just drag 109 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: it out, just come clean, say, hey, this was our relationship, 110 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 2: this is when I met him, this is what we discussed. 111 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 2: I wasn't involved in any of that nefarious activity on 112 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 2: the island, but yes I did do this deal with him. 113 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: And don't forget the idea of human sex trafficking and 114 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: a Trump campaign and exposing it runs back. Not only 115 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: did this campaign, but if you remember twenty sixteen, the 116 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 1: pizza gate, and there's this which look whatever you want 117 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: to call it, there clearly are worldwide sex rings. There 118 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: clearly is sex trafficking. Is clearly a problem in this 119 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: country as those countries around the world. These things do exist. 120 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: Now to who's running what or whatever. But Trump didn't 121 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 1: shut any of that down. He allowed that to be 122 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: a thing that happened the first campaign that was out there. 123 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: So he doesn't get to act like after eight years 124 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: or whatever of campaigning in and on and around this, oh, 125 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: you people are ridiculous. You should let this go. No, 126 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: people are very concerned about human sex trafficking. They are 127 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: very concerned about the abuse of children. Again, it come 128 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: back to there are people who have made entire careers 129 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: like a Chris Hansen exposing this. There's entire networks of 130 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: streaming services dedicated to there are these people on the 131 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: internet who are the you know, the the amateur hunters 132 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: who do this, who catch these people. Clearly, there are 133 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: all sorts of people out there who are willing to 134 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: have sex with underage people, who are meeting what they 135 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: think are underage people. This is a very very serious issue. 136 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: The public is engaged in it, and for Trump to 137 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: act like, oh, you people are being ridiculous. Look at Obama. Yeah, 138 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: we should look at Obama. We totally should look at 139 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: Obama and Clinton and all the stuff that they pulled, 140 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: but we should also be looking at this. 141 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, because you have to consider with the New York 142 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 2: High society and if they were running around within the 143 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 2: same group. Even if Donald Trump's I never went to 144 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 2: the island, as you mentioned, these are networks and all 145 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 2: of that money is all. 146 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: Part of it. 147 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,559 Speaker 2: So no matter what deal they were doing, chances are 148 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: it's linked to it somehow. 149 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. So the best thing Trump could do is come 150 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: out to be completely honest with all the association he 151 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: had with Epstein, because again it's in Trump's mind and 152 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: I there are a lot of people who are good 153 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: at here's a great example, and he just recently passed away. 154 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: Later on in life, the wrestling community was very critical 155 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: of hul Cogan because he would tell a lot of 156 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: stories that were just blatant lies, right, And it almost 157 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: became a running joke. And there are people who had 158 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: done podcasts and stuff would expose these things, and it 159 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: became like these ridiculous just lies that hull Cogan would 160 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: tell about his career, and people were always joking. He said, 161 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: your real life is actually fascinating enough, you don't have 162 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: to lie about it. But one of the things that 163 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: I think happens with entertainers, with people who are beloved 164 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: by the world, they tell tall tales, right like. It's 165 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: sort of especially as a wrestler, right like, because the 166 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: whole thing is a work. You tell these tall tales, 167 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: and pre Internet or pre certainly social mediahere, everybody scrutinizes 168 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: everything you said. You just got away with it for 169 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 1: so long. You know, it's part of the charm. It's 170 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: Missus O'Leary's cow in the Chicago fire, and you know, 171 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: like all of these things, right, But then you never 172 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: are able to because she's been so long being able 173 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: to do this. Biden's a great example of this. He 174 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: told these lies for so many years, these ridiculous things 175 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: about Amtrak and how long he wrote the thing, and 176 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 1: nobody ever called him out, and so it just became 177 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: second nature. There used to be a character was that 178 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: Tim Wilson used to do at the famous comedian called 179 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: Uncle b S. And that was part of his comedy routine, 180 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: and he would tell these ridiculous stories about places he 181 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: was and things he encountered. And I think for a 182 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: guy like Trump, he just exaggerated for about so much 183 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: for so long that it sort of became part of 184 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: the act. But the problem is when you're saying We're 185 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: going to build a wall and make Mexico pay for it, 186 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: everybody knows Mexico's not paying for the wall, and Wall shouted. 187 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: It's part of the charm, and it's like hitting the 188 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: note on you know, when satisfaction starts at the Rolling 189 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: Stones concert, everybody knows what's coming next. The problem is 190 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: this ain't that this is really serious life for death 191 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: stuff and for you to be pulling the Trump routine 192 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: on it on I don't do drawings, Yes you do, dude, 193 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: They're all over the plane. 194 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 2: It completely damages his credibility on other issues. Then and 195 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 2: after a while, when they start to tell these lies 196 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 2: and exaggerate for so long, they start to believe them 197 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: as well. It becomes part of who they are, and 198 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 2: they also start to believe their propaganda that's not true. 199 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: And again, like when some guy like hul Cogan is 200 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 1: lying about whether he was asked to be in Metallica 201 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: or whether he was asked to do the Mickey Rourke 202 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: character in The Wrestler, it's easily disproval stuff. You just 203 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: chuckle about it and go on. It's not life or death. 204 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: It's just some guy who's just full of it, right, 205 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: and we chuckle about it on podcasts and hear it 206 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: and go or merry Way. Trump is the president. He's 207 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: the president of the United States, the most powerful man 208 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: in the world, and we're dealing with something that is 209 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: very serious and affects many many people. And there are 210 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 1: kids out there actively being abused in human sex trafficking rings. 211 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: And he needs to cut the crap and he needs 212 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: to come clean and need to get to the bottom 213 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: of what what happened here. 214 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 2: You're listening to Kennel and Casey, it is ninety three 215 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 2: w IBC. 216 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: No. I was like, what are we doing. It's my 217 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: job to say we're doing okay. So we have a 218 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: resolution in this case. And by the way, it's Kenel 219 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: and Casey show and Rob Casey's here. Thank you for 220 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: joining us today. We have a resolution in the case 221 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: of the man who was charged with what's stalking Caitlyn 222 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: Clark Rank Clark. Yeah. 223 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 2: So, Michael Lewis is his name. He's from Texas. He 224 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 2: was sentenced to two and a half years in prison 225 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 2: after he pled guilty to threatening and harassing her. He 226 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 2: sent some explicit and violent messages to her via social 227 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 2: media for about a year, and he received the maximum 228 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: sentence for his felony charge. Two and a half years 229 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 2: doesn't seem like very long to me. 230 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and you know, obviously a variety of things 231 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: go into it. What there was a plea deal obviously, 232 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: so you get a reduced whatever. Now, some feeszing things 233 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: came out the Indie Star amongst others. Have you know, 234 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 1: big expose as on this if you want to read 235 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: all about it. One that was interesting was this guy 236 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: traveled from Dallas, the Dallas area to Indianapolis. He was 237 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis when the police encountered him. So very serious, right, 238 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not just some guy in his bedroom 239 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: doing something. He had traveled across the country. Now he 240 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: was at a hotel and he had sent these messages. 241 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: The police had an encounter with him. They actually went 242 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: to the hotel, had a conversation with him, did a 243 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: welfare check, and then he proceeded to keep sending. It's 244 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: like they, I guess, decided not to apprehend him or 245 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: detain him at that time, and then he kept going, right, Well. 246 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 2: They warned him and he did. He kept going. But 247 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 2: now he has a no contact order and he's got 248 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 2: to stay away from Gamebridge in all Indiana Fever events. 249 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 2: But he continued to send her messages via social media. 250 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 2: He said he got banned from Gamebridge, but maybe he'll 251 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 2: go to road games. Yikes, that's scary for her. 252 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 1: Well, the judge, I think, even alluded to this that 253 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: the guy has some mental health issues obviously. And I'm 254 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 1: trying to read the Star article and I thought I 255 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: thought there was something where the judge had said something 256 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: about him needing to get mental health you know, evaluation 257 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 1: or help or whatever. And I'll try to try to 258 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: find that I'm not seeing in the article. I'm looking 259 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: at it from you. But anyway, I mean, the guy has, 260 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: you know, some serious issues that are going to be 261 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: vetted out beyond just being incarcerated. It obviously takes him 262 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: off the street, which is good, but it does also 263 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: underscore right, like everybody thinks it's cool to be in 264 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: the public eye, thinks it's cool to be a public figure. 265 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: Wouldn't it be neat to have people recognize you when 266 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: you places, or people want your autograph or want your picture. 267 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: There's also a lot of people that are just completely 268 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: messed up in this world. 269 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 2: And want to do harm. 270 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, for someone like her, she's not 271 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: bringing the heat on anybody. She's just some person out 272 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: there playing basketball. And you feel really bad for her 273 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: because she's subjected to something like this when all she 274 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: wants to do is just entertain people and give people 275 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: a good time. 276 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think about this, like, you know, everybody always 277 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 2: comments on how popular and how skilled she is athletically 278 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 2: and how much money she has for all of the 279 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: brands that she's promoting. But at the same time, you 280 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 2: have to think this was a twenty two year old 281 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 2: woman in a strange town who just moved here, recent 282 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 2: college graduate, and you've got this guy sending her creepy messages, 283 00:14:54,920 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 2: who's in an imaginary relationship with her. It kind of 284 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 2: brings it back down to like, yeah, she's just a 285 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 2: young woman who's starting out in her career as well, Well. 286 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: Think about this, she's basically the same age as your daughter. 287 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 2: She is the same age as my daughter who has 288 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 2: just moved across the country starting her career. 289 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, you just touched on a great point, which is 290 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: we lose sight of this, not just with her, but 291 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: with these athletes collectively because we see them as super 292 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: like because of the attention that you get. You see 293 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: them because they're in an adult world and they're in 294 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: an industry which is consumed by adults, that you lose 295 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: sight of the fact that picture what you were like, right, 296 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: Like I think about all the like when I was 297 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: twenty three or twenty four years old. I started my 298 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: first business at twenty two, But in terms of so 299 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: I had a pretty good hand and then ended up 300 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: being a pretty successful business. And I bought a radio 301 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: station at twenty four, So I had a pretty good 302 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: understanding of the adult world. But don't even think about 303 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: like all the stupid stuff I did, like what I've 304 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: been able to handle the magnitude of it's one thing 305 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: known a couple businesses and buy some stuff and whatever, 306 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: but the magnitude at that age of being there. 307 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 2: How to navigate that. 308 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: Right, Like, you lose side of the fact that these 309 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: people they don't I mean, you get experience over time. 310 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: They don't just PLoP you down and then you have 311 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: to do this. Obviously she is as she elevated, but 312 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: all of these people, we lose sight of the fact 313 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: that they are basically just young kids. And think about 314 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: what you were doing at that age. 315 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 2: Right when I think about that, and when I was 316 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 2: twenty two, I mean I was living in an underground apartment. 317 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 2: We called it the subterranean chalet because it was the 318 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 2: kind that had just a little window that was ground level, 319 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 2: and you know, I had like a mattress on the 320 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 2: floor because I didn't have a bed frame. You know, 321 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 2: you're just starting out those sort of things and you're 322 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 2: trying to navigate. Oh my gosh, this is how I 323 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 2: learned to pay bills and just provide for yourself out 324 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 2: of your parents' house. Now obviously she's got a much 325 00:16:55,520 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 2: much larger, substantial paycheck in which to help her enable 326 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 2: that situation. But still just a young person and you've 327 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 2: got this guy who's being a total creeper. And it 328 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 2: also shows that, you know, just the online harassment, how 329 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 2: it can turn into the real world situation. 330 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you lose. Look, it's what you give up. 331 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: And it's like, don't cry for me, Argentina. These people 332 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: live charmed lives, but you give up. You don't realize 333 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: how much you need normalcy until you don't have it. 334 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: And these people give up, whether it's a Kaitlin Clark 335 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: or the Taylor Swifts or you know, any athlete right 336 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: of any sort of high profile give up. There really 337 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: sounds weird to say, but like they're right to normalcy. 338 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: Like that's the trade off. Is you get all this money, 339 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: you get this fame and get this adulation, get this stuff. 340 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 1: You get this lavish lifestyle, and you can turn it off. 341 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: Like when you're not in season, you can in the 342 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: off season go retreat to whatever compound you've got. 343 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 2: Right, But in season, you can't go into an RBS, right, 344 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 2: you can't. 345 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: You simply you give up the ability to do that. 346 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: And it's just something we lose sight of until something 347 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: like this hits and you realize there are nutbags out there, 348 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 1: there are crazy people. 349 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 2: Did you know that she was dealing with this? How 350 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 2: does it affect her gameplay and her environment around her 351 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 2: teammates because she's living in fear when she's unprotected. 352 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: True Drew asked on the YouTube, has anyone ever asked 353 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: me for my autograph at the night with WIBC? Yes. 354 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: I kind of think it, like, we get a lot 355 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: of pictures, people want to take pictures. I don't think 356 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: I'm famous enough that people would want my signature, Like 357 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: it's not going to appreciate in value, But we do 358 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: get a lot of people who want pictures or whatever. 359 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: People want to come up and talk, and I don't 360 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: pretend to anyway be close to anything to this, although 361 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: we do get a lot of people who hate us, 362 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: and we do get a lot of fun things in 363 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 1: the mail and things like that, but nothing. 364 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 2: I have had threats before. I don't think, Yeah, I've 365 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 2: been asked for my autograph before. More than anything, what 366 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 2: I noticed as people, what do you think of this? Oh? Yeah, yeah, 367 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 2: because they hear us talking about it every day and 368 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 2: then you know, like my neighbor is always asking me. 369 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: Okay. So James Briggs, a friend of the show, calumnist 370 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: The Indie Star, has a fabulous piece on what a 371 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: just a wretched rotten dude Diego Morales is and it's opinion. 372 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: So we'll read some of his opinions if we go back. 373 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 2: It's Kendall and Casey on ninety three wibc. 374 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:44,239 Speaker 1: Oh Rolling Stones, there job Kevin. Do you know Mick 375 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: Jagger's eighty two years old now I believe it. He 376 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: just had a birthday. 377 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 2: I think still runs around on stage too. 378 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: I was laughing with my dad because he was like, man, 379 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: when I was a little kid in nineteen sixty five, 380 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 1: I saw Mick Jagger on TV for the first It's like, 381 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 1: here we are fifty fifty years sixty years later. 382 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 2: He's still still doing the same thing, the same moves. Yeah, exactly. 383 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 2: The guy definitely has a passion for what he does. 384 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 2: I mean that is, when'd you get sick of sick 385 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 2: in the same songs? 386 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: Well that long? Look okay, look like there's a The 387 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 1: Rolling Stones don't tour anymore in the sense of it's 388 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 1: not one night we're in Phoenix and then the next 389 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: night we're in Dallas, Texas. I think they do what 390 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: like probably ten to twenty very large venued international shows 391 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: every year. A handful those might be in the United States. 392 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: It's not the way it used to be. So I 393 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 1: think at this point it's sort of like we jet in, 394 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: we do the Delio right, and I slide around the 395 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: stage for an hour and thirty minutes. I have a 396 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: plane waiting. I'm right back where I started from before 397 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 1: the sun sets. Yeah, you know type of thing. So 398 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: I think at this point they've kind of got it. 399 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 1: They kind of got it narrowed down, you. 400 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 2: Know, works for him. 401 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: But anyway, all that said, a good choice by just 402 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,719 Speaker 1: eighty two years old, and still I don't buy have 403 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 1: that energy. Well, I mean, it is amazing to thank him. 404 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: And what I was when my dad and were talking 405 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: to this, I was laughing because the Rolling Stones, and 406 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: this must have been like two thousand and two, had 407 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: a big comeback. They had not toured for quite a 408 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: while and they had a big comeback and HBO had 409 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 1: a big special and Ron Wood who is the bass 410 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: the is he the bass players out right or the 411 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: one the guitar player anyway, he's the third. It's Mick Jagger, 412 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: Ron Wood and and Keith Richards are the three remaining. 413 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: Charlie Watts was still there at the time, but they 414 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: had ron Wood is a couple years younger than the 415 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: rest of them. He was in the Small Faces with 416 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 1: Rod Stewart. They came up together, So I think ron 417 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: Wood is like four or five years younger, which would 418 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: make him in late seventies now. But at the time, 419 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: the Rolling Stones were sixty, like they were sixty years 420 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 1: old or something like that. And as I was just 421 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 1: graduated high school and it was like, these guys are 422 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: so old and they're going back on tour, and they 423 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: asked ron Wood because he was in his mid to 424 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: late fifties, like so you're kind of the baby of 425 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: the group, right, Like what's that like? And it's like, 426 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: these guys are still out there doing this, that's unbelievable. 427 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 2: When they were younger, they used to alternate when the 428 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 2: Beatles and the Rolling Stones would release the song Oh yeah, 429 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 2: because they never wanted to do it on the same week. Yeah, 430 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 2: they knew they'd be competing for the top spot. 431 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: There is a theory, and it's true. My very very 432 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 1: good friend of Mentor. Jay Baker told me this years ago, 433 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: and when you think about it like it blows you 434 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: away when you actually it is accurate. From nineteen sixty 435 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: nine to nineteen seventy four is the greatest five year 436 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: window in the history of the world when it comes 437 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: to music, because you basically had every great rock star 438 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: or band. Now we're all of them at the pinnacle, No, 439 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: of course not, but you basically had them all active, 440 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 1: mainstream and accessible at one time. And I'm talking everything 441 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: from Elvis to the Beatles, to the Rolling Stones, to 442 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: Frank Sinatra, to the early the very young Bruce Springstad, mean, 443 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 1: all of that Led Zeppelin, all of that Rod Stewart, all. 444 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 2: These guys happening at the same time in a five 445 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 2: year window. 446 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: We're all active and mainstream and together. And that is unbelievable. 447 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you've got them all switching who they 448 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 2: want to play with, like you know, Eric Clapton coming 449 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 2: in saying, I like what you do, Let's do this. 450 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, unbelievable anyway, Okay, So we talked about this a 451 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: little bit earlier in the program Indie Star is on 452 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: Fire Today, which again, like I said this before, and 453 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 1: I'll say it again. I'll keep saying it. Diego Morales 454 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: is a genuinely stupid individual. Like there are some of 455 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: these politicians who I look at and go, that guy 456 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: is really bright, and that sucks because he's pretty maniacal, 457 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 1: but he's really good at what he does. Diego Morales, 458 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: if you have a conversation the Indiana Secretary of State, 459 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 1: he is a genuinely stupid individual. 460 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 2: Well, I think he thinks he's smarter, does what he is. 461 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: But if U is the problem. And so as a 462 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: result of this, you know your limitations exactly. And as 463 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: a result of this, it really helps us in the 464 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: media because he keeps putting himself, he keeps running his mouth, 465 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: he keeps putting himself in position doing things that draw 466 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: attention to who he is and what a just a 467 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: rotten person he is, and how he is in twenty 468 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 1: four to seven campaign mode and is willing to use 469 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: whatever resource available to him to remain in twenty four 470 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 1: to seven campaign mode. 471 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 2: Okay, use whatever resources available to him, and the resource 472 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 2: last week was the Motor Vehicle Advisory Board meeting where. 473 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: He launches into So what happened was we did a 474 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: big thing about his campaign finance report and all the 475 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: red flags that were in that. The Indie Star did 476 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: a big expos and all the red flags in his 477 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: campaign finance report. And because there are a lot of 478 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: red flags that he didn't want to answer, he just 479 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: launches into, unprompted at the Motor Vehicle Advisory Board, where 480 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: it's like, we're just making sure the motor vehicle people 481 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: are obeying the laws and you know, acting in an 482 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: upright and reputable fashion. A fifteen minute tirade centering around 483 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: the fake news and who's he named? We know that's 484 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: what set him off because he named us and the Star. Well, 485 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 1: many other people have covered the Diego Morales shenanigans over 486 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: the years, the Capitol Chronicle, the TV stations, the Indian 487 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: reporter guy, but he went after us in The Star 488 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: because that made him mad because people are like, yeah, 489 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: this seems kind of sketchy some of the stuff going 490 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: on here. We'd like to know more about it. And 491 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: who knows who barked at him as a result of that, right. 492 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 2: Absolutely, well, he insisted that he didn't care about the critics. 493 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 2: Really going on and on about it for fifteen minutes 494 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 2: shows that you do care. 495 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, And let's review what Diego Morales is. He's a 496 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: twenty four to seven campaigner who is using your money 497 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: to do it. When he talks about, oh I go 498 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: to this county and I go to that county. You're 499 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: not using your own car, your own gas. What the 500 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 1: hell else do you have to do? All day? You 501 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: go places with taxpayer resources on tap, taxpayer time, getting 502 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: paid by taxpayers. That's what you do, dude, right, No, 503 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 1: you going to a county fair. You don't get a 504 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,479 Speaker 1: pat on the bag for that. You going to some 505 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 1: county and presenting a check of taxpayer money that you 506 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: put your own name on, by the way, which is 507 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: totally gross. You don't get a benefit for that, And 508 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: he wants you to mistake that for being some above 509 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: and beyond thing. We have the same thing with Micah, 510 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 1: and Mike's like, well I need this car because I 511 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: got all these counties. Don't have to go to all 512 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,239 Speaker 1: these counties. You going to the candy store, Micah? Are 513 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: you going to the music store and doing a drum solo? 514 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: Are you going to the pizza king? Does nothing for 515 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: the taxpayers. You could meet with all these people on 516 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 1: zoom you get zero zero credit Diego, Micah, any of 517 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: you for going places for photo ops on my dime. 518 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 2: So Briggs says that Morales's work ethic isn't the problem. 519 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 2: It's his corruption. It's that Morale is criss crossing Indiana's 520 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 2: ninety two counties, as he put it in a taxpayer 521 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 2: funded ninety thousand dollars Yukon Tonali. But Briggs goes on 522 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 2: to say, while we're on this point, why is Morales 523 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 2: driving two thousand miles per month anyway? 524 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: Exactly? 525 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 2: Is that an efficient use of time for the Secretary 526 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 2: of Stace. 527 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 1: So let's say the quiet part out loud. He is 528 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: gaming the system for his reelection by using your money, 529 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: you being the people hearing us right now, taxpayer money 530 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: to campaign twenty four hours a day, seven days a 531 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,719 Speaker 1: week in a luxurious automobile. 532 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 2: It's like Frank Mail, only the mobile version. 533 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: Oh, perfect, casey, that's exactly what it is. That's exactly 534 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: what he's doing. And he wants you to pat him 535 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 1: on the back. He wants you to tell him what 536 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: a great job he's doing. So what's interesting about this 537 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: Briggs article is Briggs goes back years to the unethical 538 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: ced red flag behavior from Diego all the way back 539 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: to what I believe was one of the biggest things, 540 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 1: which is that when he was running for Congress in 541 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen his past voting record somehow voted in a 542 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: county different from where he was taking a homestead credit, 543 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: which you totally cannot do, and for some reason, because 544 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: the Democrats are totally an f nobody challenged him on it, 545 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: nobody filed a complaint about it, nobody forced law enforcement 546 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: to look into it. You cannot vote wherever your homestead 547 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: credit is is where you live. Wherever you take your 548 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 1: homestare credit, because you're getting a financial benefit out of it, 549 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: that's where you live. And yet Diego lived in a 550 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: county different from where the congressional district he was running 551 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: for was, and he knew that would look bad, so 552 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: he somehow magically voted in Plainfield. Well, living in Plainfield, well, 553 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: you can't do that. Nobody held him account. But Briggs 554 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: goes back into this in this article, which is good, and. 555 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 2: He also points out the no bid contracts worth millions 556 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 2: of dollars, the employment of his brother in law with 557 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 2: the generous bonuses, the international travel with unclear funding, and 558 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 2: also all the taxpayer money on promotional swag that has 559 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 2: his name on it. We talked about the maps yesterday. 560 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: Okay, So here's a line from the piece that it's 561 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: a long piece and he does a good job of 562 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: going back through all the bull crap with Diego. But 563 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: I think is one of the great lines of the piece. 564 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: He's sharp, he's detail oriented, he puts an effort, but 565 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: he applies those presumptive virtues toward deceiving others and serving 566 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: his own interests. One of the hardest parts of writing 567 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: about Morales is deciding which scandals to reference, because the 568 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: list is tediously long for reader and writer alike. That 569 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: is perfect. That is the perfect summation of Diego Morales. 570 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: Everything he does is for himself. Everything he does is 571 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: to benefit him. And what he does because he's a 572 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: fraud and a liar, is he looks at you and 573 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: wants you to pat him on the back for it. 574 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: Everything he does is for himself, and he wants you, 575 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: while using your money and resources to pull it off. 576 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: He wants you to say thanks for doing that. 577 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, just look at all of the international travel, 578 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 2: the trip to Hungary? 579 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: Was that for you? 580 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 2: Did that help. 581 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 4: Poosier's oh all right, Well, look, we're gonna stay on 582 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 4: this because every time we try to get out of it, 583 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 4: Diego brings it back up again, and the re and 584 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 4: heat when you keep responding like this. 585 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: There's a reason for that. It's the old saying is 586 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: you're over the target. And the case of Briggs and 587 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: the other piece in the Indie Star today about Raju, 588 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: they're over the target. This guy is a walking, talking 589 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: red flag. And the reason we stay on it is 590 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: because he's in a position where he has access to 591 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: millions of people's personal information. He is the Secretary of 592 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: State who controls businesses and he controls elections, which means 593 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: he has data personally and professionally on millions of people. So, yeah, 594 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: you didmn bet when you go to a foreign country 595 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: and you won't tell people who paid for it or 596 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,239 Speaker 1: what you did there, we're going to talk about it. 597 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 2: He can't even control his own answers, right, So how's 598 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 2: he gonna be in charge of that? The last line, 599 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 2: one of the last lines of this article, he's going 600 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 2: to have to convince Republican delegates that he isn't insulting 601 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 2: their intelligence. 602 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good piece by Briggs. 603 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 2: You're listening to Kendally Casey. It is ninety three WIBC. 604 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: Hey, Well then we go okay, So there's interesting opinion 605 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: piece in the Hill Hollow by Doug Shown. Doug shown people. 606 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: You would recognize him if you saw him on He's 607 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: been on television for years. He's a long time Democrat strategist. 608 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: He was an advisor to Bill Clinton. They bring him 609 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: out on all the cable networks now. He's a pretty 610 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: mainstream moderate Democrats, sort of in the mold of a 611 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: president Bill Clinton. He'll speak highly of he gives honest 612 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,040 Speaker 1: assessments of Democrats, he will speak highly of republic and 613 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: it's just kind of a respected guy. And he has 614 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: this new piece about the idea of AOC running for 615 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: even winning the presidency, and he says that the title 616 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: is president Okazio Cortes isn't as far of a reach 617 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: as it once was, and he goes into starts out 618 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: with her voting record on Israel. Yeah, and how she 619 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: voted for the Iron Dome after obviously she's made many 620 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: statements critical of Israel. Whether they're anti Semitic or not, 621 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: I'll leave that up to other people. But clearly she's 622 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: in the far left and her actual worldview, but he 623 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: noted how not only did she vote to fund the 624 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: Iron Dome, which all the rest of the squads voting 625 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: voted against it, she also previously got real lippy about 626 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: Israel and the Iron Dome. 627 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 2: In twenty twenty one, she voted present right and on 628 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 2: continued funding. 629 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: Then the piece goes into sort of where she's positioned, 630 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: how much money she's been able to raise, And what's 631 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: in interesting to me is how much guys like this 632 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: dude running for mayor of New York or this lunatic 633 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: in Minnesota, how if they win. These mayor's races may 634 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: screw it up for her because she is far left, 635 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: but she's power hungry enough that she's willing to put 636 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: her ideology aside if it means her own personal benefit. 637 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: And so like a lot of people think she may 638 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: challenge Schumer, she's gonna run for the presidency, what she 639 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: gonna do. She's casting these votes because politically they will 640 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: endear her to fundraisers at all, who be like, yeah, 641 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: she's left, but you know she'll listen when the money's 642 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: laid down, she'll listen. But these, these true believers, for 643 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,959 Speaker 1: lack of a better term, like the guy in New 644 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: York or the Minneapolis dude. They could screw it all 645 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: up for her because they get a lot of attention, 646 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: they get the spotlight. They are the socialists, and if 647 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: they become the face of the left, it's going to 648 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: make a lefty like her less likely to succeed nashally, 649 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: because people are like noop, no, thank you. 650 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,399 Speaker 2: Well in regards to the guy who's running for mayor 651 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 2: in New York, Mom, Donnie, a lot of people are 652 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,720 Speaker 2: very nervous, especially after what happened with that active shooter 653 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 2: situation in New York yesterday, because this is a guy 654 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 2: who's out there saying, defund the police. What are you 655 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 2: going to do in a situation like that if you've 656 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 2: defunded the police. But AOC has fundraising power. She raised 657 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 2: fifteen point four million dollars this past year, double that 658 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:33,760 Speaker 2: of Mike Johnson, the House speaker. 659 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, here's the problem with someone like her, though, It's 660 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: like it's like Kevin, appreciate this. It's like finally getting 661 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 1: to go out with the girl you always wanted to 662 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: go out with, and the idea of it is almost 663 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: always better than the thing of it itself, right, Like 664 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: it's like the dog that catches the car, What do 665 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: you do with it now? And in the sense of her, yes, 666 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 1: in the abstract, the idea of her or the fire 667 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: if you're I'm saying, if you're a lefty person, the fire, 668 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 1: the fighter. They the cable TV version of her. Sure, 669 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: that's awesome, she's an activist dream. The problem is, and 670 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:26,399 Speaker 1: you're seeing this with these votes, she ain't really all 671 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: that true of a believer, because we know she hates Israel. 672 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 1: But yet when it came time to push your shove, 673 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,479 Speaker 1: when it came to push your shove, and she saw 674 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: the money or the potential wrong term risk, she chose 675 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: to quietly go where the donors were gonna be. And 676 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,879 Speaker 1: when you put her on a national stage, she's gonna 677 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,760 Speaker 1: have to pick a lane. It's why the celebrities almost 678 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: never run. It's why man, I think they have to 679 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,320 Speaker 1: give their opinion. Why does the Rock or the Oprah 680 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: never actually run for president? Because hey, mister Rock, now 681 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: you've got to take a You got to take a 682 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: position on should little kids be able to chop off 683 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: their peedie cut? Well, right, you're right on that. But 684 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 1: the biggest part is it's easy to smile and go. 685 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: Isn't the rock magnanimous? Isn't the rock just the greatest, 686 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: nicest guy. Doprah gives everyone a car. Isn't she wonderful? Hey, Oprah, 687 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: what's your view on letting fifteen million people illegally into 688 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: the country. Well, as soon as you have a view 689 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 1: on that, you start pissing people off. It's why Matthew 690 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,919 Speaker 1: McConaughey didn't run for governor of Texas because all right, 691 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 1: all right, all right, that's not a policy position with 692 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,240 Speaker 1: this woman, AOC. Once she gets on a national stage, 693 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: you can raise all the money in the world. Now 694 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 1: you got to pick a lane. And on a national stage, 695 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 1: when she gets pressed on voting for the Iron Dome, well, 696 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: now you're going to piss off a whole bunch of 697 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 1: people who don't follow it. 698 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 2: All that, right, she's going to alienate her progressive. 699 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 1: Base, right, and she don't want any part of that. 700 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 3: She likes. 701 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: Does this sound familiar? She wants to be a celebrity. 702 00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 2: She likes campaigning, she's not actually governing, not act. 703 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: Does this ring a bell? Someone who just wants to 704 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 1: be on television, who talks a great game. Who actually 705 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: isn't interested in governing? Who when the when the when 706 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 1: the push comes to shove actually cowers and does what 707 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,320 Speaker 1: the bosses tell them because they like the luxury or 708 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 1: the comfort of the position over actually standing up for 709 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 1: the things they claim to stand up for. Yeah, I 710 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: just think she's she will get exposed, and I actually 711 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 1: think she will run for Senate because it's easier, yep, 712 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 1: to continue to do the things she desires, which is 713 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 1: this be the celebrity politician and elevate and she can 714 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,359 Speaker 1: beat Chuck Schumer in a blue state, and she can 715 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,800 Speaker 1: move to the left and she and it's easier, it 716 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,800 Speaker 1: would be easier. I think she's far more likely to 717 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 1: run for Senate than the presidency. 718 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 2: I agree with you. I think that she's got the 719 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 2: youth and the energy, and she does have the name recognition, 720 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 2: whereas Chuck Schumer has been dying on the vine and 721 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:57,359 Speaker 2: in a weird way. 722 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: And I always say this about like here in Indianapolis, 723 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: the guy I respect the most is Jesse Brown, the socialist. 724 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: And Jesse and I wouldn't. We're not friends, but we 725 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: have a cordial relationship because we are the bizarro version 726 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 1: of each other. I am to the right what he 727 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 1: is to the left. But we know where each other is, 728 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 1: and we are respectful to each other, and we have 729 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 1: fun with each other, and we know that each other 730 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 1: thinks the other one is crazy, but we're honest. And 731 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 1: the dude in New York or the dude in Minneapolis, 732 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 1: I got way more respect for them than I do 733 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: someone like AOC because she's a fraudster. She'll do whatever's 734 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 1: best for her. Those guys are true believers. 735 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 2: Man, Well you've heard the stories. You know she's just 736 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 2: a bartender from the Bronx. And I think it was 737 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 2: Benny Johnson. He did a big expose on her that 738 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 2: she's not from the Bronx. She may have lived there 739 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 2: after college, but she grew up in an affluent neighborhood. 740 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 2: So the I grew up poor Woe is Me story 741 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 2: is complete fraud. Now she's also they're saying that she 742 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 2: violated the house gift rule. Yeah, or are not paying 743 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 2: for services and items that she received to go to 744 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 2: the met? 745 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 1: How much was that dress? Was like thirty k? 746 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 2: That she won forty thousand dollars. 747 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 1: It's a tax the rich on it. She goes this 748 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 1: big fancy ball and she's wearing a thirty thousand dollars 749 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,439 Speaker 1: dress that says tax the rich. And yeah, now they've 750 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,319 Speaker 1: said she still owes money back as a part of that, 751 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,800 Speaker 1: or right, I mean she's yeah, because she didn't claim 752 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 1: it properly or whatever. The point is though, she's a 753 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 1: fraudster like the rest of them, and I will always 754 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: have way more respect for the true believer. You can 755 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: be completely nuts if you're a true believer and you 756 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 1: walk the walk and talk to talk. We can go 757 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 1: back and forth all day. People like her, she'll get exposed. 758 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 2: Thank you, Rob, Thank you Kevin, thank you for listening today. 759 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 2: It's being Kendall and Casey on ninety three wibc DA. 760 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 2: Just like that,