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Speaker 2: Grand Rising Family, and thanks for making us part of

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Speaker 2: your morning ritual again and Marry Christians for those of

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Speaker 2: you who celebrate Lady this morning, clinical psychologist doctor Jeromy

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Speaker 2: Fox will take over our classroom and doctor Fox is

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Speaker 2: the author of the best selling workbook Addicted to White

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Speaker 2: the Oppressed in League of the Oppressor, a shame based alliance.

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Speaker 2: But before we hear from doctor Fox, Paul Humphrey, the

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Speaker 2: co founder of the Friends of a Congo, update us

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Speaker 2: on the situation that Central African nation my mon teality.

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Speaker 2: Brother Obi will join us, but first let me can

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Speaker 2: see what's making news this morning. A state of emergency

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Speaker 2: has been issued in California following days of torrential rain.

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Speaker 2: Justice Department says it's added over more than a million

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Speaker 2: documents that potentially relates to Epstein and key. Senator Ran

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Speaker 2: Paul from Kentucky says the seizure of oil tankers in

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Speaker 2: the Caribbean is a prelude to war. That's what's making

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Speaker 2: news on this Christmas Day. Grand Rising, Brother Obi, welcome

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Speaker 2: back to the program.

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Speaker 3: And you and for Luke and I'll spend the last

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Speaker 3: half of that.

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Speaker 2: I was just dealing with our work grand rising.

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Speaker 3: Okay, does that work for you?

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Speaker 2: Yea, brother Obi? Can I hear me?

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Speaker 4: Just get my voice together?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Okay, good good morning? How are you?

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Speaker 2: That's this is the thank you brother Obi. I know

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Speaker 2: you have having this conversation, so I got a good

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Speaker 2: I think if you have you have a guest with

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have two distinct which guests with me. I

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Speaker 3: have the one of the finest voices in our community,

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Speaker 3: in this city and arguably in this country, who has

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Speaker 3: made background singing truly an art, our sister Felu k Beatty,

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Speaker 3: and I have one of the up and coming, most solid,

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Speaker 3: doctor Asa Winkler, who they've invited me to Baltimore for

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Speaker 3: an event this weekend and it's a children's Quanda celebration.

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Speaker 3: So we were going to break it down into two parts.

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Speaker 3: We were going to begin by talking about the program,

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Speaker 3: the institution that they represent, and then we'll get into

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Speaker 3: Venezuela on the second half. On the back side.

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Speaker 2: Let's go for it.

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Speaker 6: Okay, Okay, let's get started there, but I'll be.

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Speaker 3: Okay. So doctor, sister Feluk, because you talk about this

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Speaker 3: children's of this weekend, and then doctor sorry, you can

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Speaker 3: talk about your center and exactly what you're doing for

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Speaker 3: the people of Baltimore.

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Speaker 7: Certainly, first of all, mister Nelson, I want to thank

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Speaker 7: who celebrate this holiday at the holiday and those who don't.

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Speaker 2: Good day.

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Speaker 7: My name is Feluke Baby and I am a Right

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Speaker 7: of Passage initiate initiates at the Temple of New African

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Speaker 7: Thought now two. Temple of New African Thought is a

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Speaker 7: wonderful facility located in Baltimore, Maryland in the Hamilton area,

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Speaker 7: which provide many, many different things for.

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Speaker 8: Your for your care.

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Speaker 7: We we have all manner of literally cure toilet trees,

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Speaker 7: herbs and spices, and a wonderful, wonderful Jamaican cafe. The

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Speaker 7: as an African person born in America, to do more

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Speaker 2: Hold on for a second, right there, Sister Bertie, the

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Speaker 2: How long has it been going on? And we need

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Speaker 2: to find out what time it starts in the directions

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Speaker 7: Okay, well, I'm going to hit the tennis ball over

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Speaker 2: All right, doctor, can you tell us and give us

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Speaker 7: I'll go yeah, I'll go ahead and talk to the

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Speaker 7: doctor Saw. I'll go ahead and speak. I'm new in Baltimore.

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Speaker 7: And it started as a community that reached out to

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Speaker 7: historical black contributions. It's a bookstore, so anything written by

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Speaker 7: black people for black people is present there. We have

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Speaker 2: Let me jump in here. Maybe you can tell us

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Speaker 4: I think I'm passionate. Now if you can hear me, okay,

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Speaker 4: we can hear greetings? I sure, I mean well, I

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Speaker 4: didn't hear anything before now, but I'm saying greets. I

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Speaker 3: I couldn't hear anything before then.

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Speaker 2: All right, oh, Jash, So tell us how this all started.

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Speaker 4: That host of Grownald Center is an outgrowth of let's say,

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Speaker 4: I was born in the Africal Senate home. I always

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Speaker 4: A Stokely Carmichael, and so on and so forth, on

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Speaker 4: to do that, just to be prepared. So we open

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Speaker 4: and we really say we deal with the mind, the body,

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Speaker 8: So we do a lot.

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Speaker 4: And nonetheless, what we do we try to hit you

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Speaker 4: doctor Tristian Newton says, no word trying in an African language.

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Speaker 2: And so this weekend's events, what time are you here

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Speaker 4: So this weekend is going to be going down on

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Speaker 2: And I understand that you have. You have programs for

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Speaker 2: our young people too, Can you tell us about those programs?

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Speaker 7: Well there, well, yeah, I'll share with that. We really

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Speaker 7: not just which is important, so they're not just familiar

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Speaker 7: we have fashioned the program for this weekend Sunday at

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Speaker 7: how we have participated globally in Pan Africanism and what

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Speaker 2: And let me jump in here and ask you this.

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Speaker 7: We have found that children are like sponges and they're very,

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Speaker 7: So I would say as young as five years old,

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Speaker 2: That's all right there, We got to step aside for

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Speaker 9: Yea, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 10: Today, Now back to the Carl Nelson show.

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Speaker 2: Ye thank you for checking in with us, I mean

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Speaker 2: so doctor Winkler. So the folks that you're staring us,

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Speaker 4: So what's going to go down on Sunday. We're gonna

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Speaker 7: Also, we'd like to just encourage families to come out.

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Speaker 2: All right, twenty three minutes after the toime. They are family,

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Speaker 4: I think one of the things is sometimes there's buriers

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Speaker 4: And we are in a time where we need to

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Speaker 2: All right, twenty five after the top. Now, those who

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Speaker 4: Absolutely? And I say that as a as a psychotherapist,

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Speaker 2: It, all right, Family, At twenty six after the top,

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Speaker 7: Well, the statement that doctor Wrinkler made about UH practicing

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Speaker 5: Do you have to make it?

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Speaker 2: Do you have to make it sort of entertaining to

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Speaker 3: Can I can I speak to that? Brother Carl?

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Speaker 5: Sure?

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Speaker 3: Well, Brother Carl is always having us on. The reason

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Speaker 3: You know that the movement in Birmingham took off when

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Speaker 3: very day. If they don't know, they that means that

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Speaker 3: they were taught. They taught their parents, grandparents, uncles and aunts.

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Speaker 3: But if their family members were fortunate enough to be

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Speaker 3: exposed to what we taught, they are the chronicle the

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Speaker 3: age that they receive this information. And what they discover

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00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 3: is they're getting exposure. Not only they're getting exposure to

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Speaker 3: things that no one in their family as ever learned,

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Speaker 3: but those who were fortunate and blessed enough to learn it,

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00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 3: they got it in college age, they got it as

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Speaker 3: young adults, so they're getting it in kindergarten, they're getting

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Speaker 3: it in first grade, second grade, third grade, fourth grade,

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Speaker 3: fifth grade. So it shows an evolved commitment to scholarship.

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00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 3: Because we celebrate when our children learn advance mathematics. We

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00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 3: celebrate when our children learn advance physics, advance biology, advance chemistry.

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Speaker 3: Why can't they have advanced history. But if you make

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Speaker 3: it lucid, if you make it simplistic, and at the

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Speaker 3: end of the engagement you let the children, in their

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Speaker 3: own words, tell you what aspect of the engagement session

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Speaker 3: resonated with them the most. Then you have the raw

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Speaker 3: data right there at your disposal. They'll tell you what

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Speaker 3: resonated with them. So you don't have to guess, you

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Speaker 3: don't have to speculate.

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Speaker 2: I've family twenty eight away from the topic. I was

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Speaker 2: just waking up with us on this Thursday morning. I

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Speaker 2: guess a brother Obi's got two of these friends with him.

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Speaker 2: Dr Betty, doctor Winkler have an event in Baltimore. Brother

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00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 2: Obi works at our young people, so he actually knows

463
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Speaker 2: how to He knows how to what will resonate with

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00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: him as far as teaching and entertaining them as well.

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Speaker 2: That takes us a very skillful technique. But can you

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Speaker 2: share with how do you use to keep them focused

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Speaker 2: on the issue at the same time engaged as well?

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Speaker 3: Well? There are many different ways well, of course, so

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00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 3: we use poetry. So Doctor Sar and Mama Fluke, we

470
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Speaker 3: just had a tribute children's tribute to Kwame Terray at

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Speaker 3: Howard University in November. So you got a chance to

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Speaker 3: see children playing steel pan percussion, which is a stylistic

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00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 3: form of music the popularized in the Caribbean. So these

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Speaker 3: were teenagers doing this. And for people in this area,

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Speaker 3: you're familiar with Ferrafee and a Khan who was one

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Speaker 3: of the first institutional drumming on some that aggressively celebrates

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00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 3: and promotes the drumming and dancing style out of Guinea.

478
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Speaker 3: And if you know anything about the revolution in Guinea,

479
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Speaker 3: Acme Sequtua made the cultural expression one of the primary

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Speaker 3: essential aspects of their revolution. Guinea's the first nation to

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Speaker 3: turn tell the story of their people to the world

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00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 3: in the form of ballet, dancing and drumming and so

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Speaker 3: farafi Anda Khan teaches children that. So people got a

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Speaker 3: chance to see the children do that. Our children in

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Speaker 3: mass emphasis did some poetry in five languages that night,

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Speaker 3: Brother Carl and listeners. They did it in colonial English,

487
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Speaker 3: colonial Spanish, Swahili, Ebo, one of the main languages in Nigeria,

488
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Speaker 3: the nation with the largest population on the African continent

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Speaker 3: two hundred and thirty five million people at this particular point,

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Speaker 3: and we were joined with some children out of the

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Speaker 3: Eritrean community who did it into Turgunia, which is which

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Speaker 3: is their main national language. So we were able to

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Speaker 3: show people this first hand, so they got a chance

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Speaker 3: to see it. So we should we utilize language, we

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Speaker 3: utilize music, we utilize poetry. And the other aspect of

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Speaker 3: mass emphasis that we have is we have something called

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Speaker 3: the Mass Emphasis Positive Action and Creativity Youth Brigade, where

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Speaker 3: we identify the skills that the children have, that they

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Speaker 3: are developing, that they are harnessing, so that we reinforced

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Speaker 3: to them that those skills and talents belong to our people.

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Speaker 3: And as a matter of fact, of the next few

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Speaker 3: we are working right now with Casa did Kochuda. If

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Speaker 3: people don't know what that is, that is the artistic

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Speaker 3: branch of Cuba's children, and we are going to do

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Speaker 3: some portraits. We're focusing on brother Malcolm, We're focusing on

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Speaker 3: Patrice Lamumba, We're focusing on France Nan, We're focusing on

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Speaker 3: Medgar Evers and someone who history has been not as

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Speaker 3: embracing of the great Felix Moume, who was the leader

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Speaker 3: of the People's Union of Cameroon, who was poisoned by

510
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 3: the CIA in Geneva with Thallian and they would all

511
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Speaker 3: be one hundred years old this numerical year. So the

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Speaker 3: children of Cuba are going to draw images of them,

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Speaker 3: and our children in mass emphasis are going to draw

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Speaker 3: images of them. And this will be our third art

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Speaker 3: show in the last two years. Our first art show

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Speaker 3: we highlighted the Cuban doctors. Our second art show we

517
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Speaker 3: highlighted Asada Olubala Shakor and this time we're going to

518
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Speaker 3: highlight those giants who turned one hundred this year, also

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Speaker 3: using the calendar. The calendar is also a method. This

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00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 3: is why you have institutions like the Black Seeds Historical

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00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 3: and Educational Calendar who have used the calendar to educate

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Speaker 3: the whole community, starting with children. And this is why

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00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 3: Kwanza is important. Because maintaining Kwanza is important. It's our

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00:34:56,040 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 3: historical obligation. But expanding strategically, banned in tactically through projects,

525
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 3: campaigns and initiatives, that's an obligation not only of the

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Speaker 3: Kwansa network in this country. But they face the same

527
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 3: challenge everyone does. You go to the NAACP's National Convention,

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00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 3: it's mostly the civil rights organizations there. You go to

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Speaker 3: Savior's Day with the Nation of Islam, it's mostly Nation

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00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 3: of Islam members there. So every organization that we have,

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Speaker 3: every institutional framework that we have, are looking to expand

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Speaker 3: beyond their immediate circles. But they understand the immeasurable value

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Speaker 3: in maintaining their circle because it is from that circle

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Speaker 3: that become their most consistent laborers and servants.

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Speaker 6: All right, hold on to all that day.

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Speaker 2: Brother, We got to step aside and check the traffic

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00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 2: and weather in our different cities. Twenty two minutes away

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Speaker 2: from the Tampaf family. Just waking up. Brother Obi's got

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Speaker 2: a couple of his transrailers. They're having a big event

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Speaker 2: in Baltimore this weekend. Yeah, questions for them, reach out

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Speaker 2: to us at eight hundred four to five zero seventy

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Speaker 2: eight seventy six. We'll take you phone call after the news.

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Speaker 5: This next.

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Speaker 12: Fourteen fifty w o L.

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Speaker 1: Now back to the Carl Nelson Show.

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Speaker 2: Thursday morning. Our guest Brother Obi, and Brother Obi is

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Speaker 2: two of his friends. So they're having a big event

548
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 2: in Baltimore this weekend. Before we go back to them roll,

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Speaker 2: let me just remind you come up later this morning.

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Speaker 2: You're going to hear from doctor Jeromey Fox. He's a

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Speaker 2: clinical psychologist. His best selling workbook is Addicted to white

552
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 2: Field Pressed in league with the Oppressor of Shame based Alliance.

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Speaker 2: But before we hear from doctor Fox, Paul Pumphrey is

554
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Speaker 2: going to be here. Paul is the one of the

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Speaker 2: co founders the Friends of the Congos. Game's an update

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Speaker 2: in this situation in that Central African nation. And tomorrow's Friday,

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Speaker 2: and you invited to join us for our last the

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Speaker 2: open Fall on Friday program for twenty twenty five free. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's basically just a thing for yourself and

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Speaker 2: checking with us right here in Baltimore on ten ten

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Speaker 2: WLB and also on the DMB in the Washington Metropolitan

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Speaker 2: herea fourteen fifteen WL. All right, brother, Obi, you ready

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Speaker 2: to give us an update on what's going on in Venezuela.

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Speaker 3: Oh, of course, thank you for always giving us a

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Speaker 3: platform to do that through the vehicle that we created

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Speaker 3: on April thirtieth. For those of you who remember April thirtieth,

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Speaker 3: the main focus globally for African people were demonstrations all

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Speaker 3: over the world in defense of Burkina Fasso and the

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Speaker 3: Sahel regions. When you mentioned Brikina Fosso, do not forget

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Speaker 3: Mali and do not forget in the hier and the

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Speaker 3: reason that that is an important alliance to remember us

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Speaker 3: once again, these are young people showing that the importance

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Speaker 3: of recognizing history. Because in nineteen sixty one you had

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Speaker 3: to Ghana, Guinea Mahlly union between osaject for doctor Kwame

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Speaker 3: and Kromer and the Convention People's Party ACME Skuta and

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Speaker 3: the Democratic Party of Guinea and what Modievo Keita led

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Speaker 3: in Mali and the revolution in Mali, and they formed

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Speaker 3: a union and the objective eventually was to have one currency,

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Speaker 3: one political party, and one nation. And that was a

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Speaker 3: catalyst for the regional bodies that you see in Africa today.

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Speaker 3: Comesa Echos, static NAPAD, so on and so on and

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Speaker 3: so on. So while that was going on, we got

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Speaker 3: together with journalists in Africa, journalist in the Caribbean, journalist

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Speaker 3: in the United States, and we created a Pan African

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Speaker 3: media communicative vehicle. Carl the Shirley Graham divorce William Worthy

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Speaker 3: Collective and brother Carl, we thank you because you were

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Speaker 3: there at the creation of that and we said that

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Speaker 3: we would create the vehicle so that we would be

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Speaker 3: able to counter and go on the offensive dealing with

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Speaker 3: isolation because character assassination predate physical assassinations and invasions of

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Speaker 3: sovereign countries and sovereign nations, So we knew that Venezuela

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Speaker 3: would be on the attack very soon. The last Trump administration,

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Speaker 3: his Vice President Mike Pence went before the Organization of

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Speaker 3: American States and asked to have Venezuela removed from that

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Speaker 3: process to no avail. But this goes back to what

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Speaker 3: John F. Kennedy said after the Bay of Pigs invasion

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Speaker 3: failed in Cuba in nineteen sixty one. The said, Cuba

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Speaker 3: is not just a threat because of its revolutionary socialist direction,

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Speaker 3: but they inspire other nations to follow their example. So

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Speaker 3: you see how the United States deposed of Chile in

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Speaker 3: nineteen seventy three under the leadership of Salvador Allende is

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Speaker 3: deposed of his government. You see how ten years after that,

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Speaker 3: Maurice Bishop in the New Jewel movement, who organized the

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Speaker 3: most successful African revolution in the Caribbean since the Haitian

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Speaker 3: Revolution in eighteen oh four and the Cuban Revolution in

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Speaker 3: nineteen fifty nine. Was assassinated in Grenada. You see how

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00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 3: the CIA decided to use our community as a dumping

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Speaker 3: ground for crack cocaine just to overthrow the Sandinistas in Nicaragua,

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Speaker 3: the country in Central America at the time that had

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Speaker 3: the largest African population. So now Venezuela, who is pushing

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Speaker 3: this concept of the COOMBE International, saying that two hundred

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Speaker 3: million Africans in the Americas North America, South America, Central America,

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Speaker 3: Latin America, Caribbean must come together as African descendants. They

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Speaker 3: don't look at us as Black Americans, African Americans, Afro Caribbean,

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Speaker 3: Afro Latino, none of that. They're saying, we are African descendants.

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Speaker 3: And they are saying if we form an alliance of

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Speaker 3: a political nature, a social nature, a cultural nation, explore

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00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 3: economic activities, we will break the back of our former

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Speaker 3: colonizers and invaders. So defending Venezuela's territorial sovereignty is an

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Speaker 3: obligation of all Africans, especially those of you who say

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Speaker 3: you walk on the Pan African path. They are Spanish speaking,

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Speaker 3: and sometimes we have a tendency when we look at

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Speaker 3: African life in the Caribbean, we highlight the French speaking

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Speaker 3: Africans because of Haites, the Haitian Revolution and its significance.

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00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 3: Of course, the English speaking Africans of the Caribbean. We

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Speaker 3: have a tendency to dismiss Spanish speaking Africans in the

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Speaker 3: Caribbean as Latin American. So it's secondary to us. That

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Speaker 3: is a very big mistake and the price that Venezuela

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Speaker 3: has paid. So two weeks ago we had a press

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Speaker 3: conference with the highest ranking diplomat in Africa, his Excellency

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Speaker 3: Ambassador at Chucco Garcia. Hey Sue's Chucco Garcia, who was

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Speaker 3: Comandante Hugo Shapez, his advisor in African affairs and as

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Speaker 3: President Woduro's advisor in African affairs. And we had Favio

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Speaker 3: Marquez Silva, who was the former first Secretary of the

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Speaker 3: Venezuelan Embassy in Washington, but is the spokeswoman of Coombe International,

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Speaker 3: which is this umbrella of Africans all over the diaspora

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00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 3: who are coming together as one. So when you hear

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Speaker 3: people talking about going to the United Nations talking about

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00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 3: the people of African descent. Venezuela is the engine for

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Speaker 3: that activity. This is a socialist nation, This is an

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Speaker 3: African nation. One of the most celebrated cultural patterns they

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00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 3: have in Venezuela is they recognize themselves as Uruba, just

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Speaker 3: like the Santa Arias in Cuba. They promote the Euroba

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Speaker 3: lifestyle as well.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you for a second, Brother eleven, away

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Speaker 2: from the toral, because you know, folks are wondering why

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Speaker 2: would the Trump administration want to invade Venezuela, want to

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Speaker 2: take over Venezuela. Is some people fay because of the oil.

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Speaker 2: Trump is saints because they're exporting drugs to the United States.

650
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Speaker 2: Where's the truth in all this? Where does this lie?

651
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Speaker 2: Are they actually?

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Speaker 3: Last year if you remember last year, okay, if you

653
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Speaker 3: remember last year, brother Karl, you had us on and

654
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Speaker 3: we had the youngest person to be charged as a

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Speaker 3: kingpen in US history. Brother Anton White is co defending

656
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Speaker 3: Eric Hicks, and we organized an event last year around

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Speaker 3: African Liberation Day. We organized an event with antone Eric

658
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Speaker 3: Hits Freeway Rick Ross, the Nicaraguan ambassador to the United

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Speaker 3: States at the time. The sister Fravia, who's also the

660
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Speaker 3: second advisor to Venezuela's National Assembly, And we had Africans

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Speaker 3: out of Mexico, Africans out of Honduras, Africans out of Colombia,

662
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Speaker 3: and it's the first time we ever had an all

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Speaker 3: hemispheric African engagement dealing with drugs and gun violence. And

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Speaker 3: it is because Venezuela Tila has been committed to exposing

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Speaker 3: Plan Colombia, which is the US imperialism's commitment to weaponizing,

666
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Speaker 3: militarizing and using drugs as a weapon of genocide throughout

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Speaker 3: the Americas. Venezuela has been vehemently opposed to that effort.

668
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Speaker 3: Cuba has been vehemently opposed to that effort, Nicaragua has

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Speaker 3: been vehemently opposed to that effort. The United States is

670
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Speaker 3: the drug capital of the world. And for the record,

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Speaker 3: for those of you who deal with herbs and environmental issues,

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Speaker 3: anybody who knows about cocaine, you know what the original

673
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 3: intent of cocaine is. The coca plant is for senior

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Speaker 3: citizens to help them with their digestive system and their

675
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 3: nervous system and arthritis. And this is how they use

676
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 3: that plant. In Bolivia, Colombia and Peru. It is US

677
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 3: imperialism that goes and gets that plant and turns it

678
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Speaker 3: into a drug used for genocide and recreation. And once again,

679
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Speaker 3: how can the nation who used our community as a

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Speaker 3: dumping ground for crack cocaine, how can they be at

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Speaker 3: the forefront of the war on drugs. That's as ridiculous

682
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Speaker 3: as al Gore being the face of an environmental movement

683
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 3: when you know the US's commitment to an environment is

684
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Speaker 3: to rape and plunder the earth and exploit the people

685
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 3: on top of those places all over the earth. So

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Speaker 3: Venezuela has nothing to do with drugs, nothing to do

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Speaker 3: with guns. But they're at the forefront of exposing that

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00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 3: the United States is at the forefront of genocide in

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Speaker 3: those areas, respectively. And all we need is the violence

690
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Speaker 3: prevention groups in this country to come from behind those

691
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Speaker 3: mayor's offices all over the country, decide that they're going

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Speaker 3: to be historically eligible to be responsible as opposed to

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Speaker 3: being grant eligible, and fight this monster on that basis.

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Speaker 3: So Venezuela stood with us when we did that. They

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Speaker 3: stand with us today, and it is through working with

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Speaker 3: Africans all over this hemisphere that we're going to expose

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Speaker 3: that sixteen hundred Pennsylvania Avenue is the biggest threat to

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Speaker 3: drugs and guns all over this hemisphere. So when people

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Speaker 3: talk about defunding police, that cannot be done in separation

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Speaker 3: from dealing with de weaponizing the police, demilitarizing the police.

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Speaker 3: And I say that from Washington, DC, which is the

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Speaker 3: military capital of the world. If you live in DC,

703
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Speaker 3: you can see more police in twenty four hours than

704
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Speaker 3: the rest of the world sees in a lifetime. Dea

705
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Speaker 3: police atf police park police with unlimited jurisdiction, the regular police,

706
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Speaker 3: so the National Guard when they came and everybody was

707
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Speaker 3: losing their mind, our position was clear. Same pigs, different slot,

708
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Speaker 3: same pigs, different slot. You understand what I'm saying. So

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Speaker 3: this is something So when they accuse any nation anywhere else,

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Speaker 3: especially in proximity in terms of this hemisphere, of being

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Speaker 3: involved in drugs and guns, they would be their partners.

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Speaker 3: So they would never isolate their partners, They would never

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Speaker 3: attack their partners. They would only protect their partners. Because

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Speaker 3: if you know the history of the Americas, the most

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Speaker 3: treacherous dictators in the Americas have always enjoyed the protection

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Speaker 3: of the United States. Baby Doc and Papa Doc got

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Speaker 3: it in Haiti for sixty years, Samosa got it in

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Speaker 3: Nicaragua for seventy years. Batista got it in Cuba. The

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Speaker 3: Dominican yea brother Obi.

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Speaker 2: But let me here for a second and seven away

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Speaker 2: from the top, they are what impact would this have,

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Speaker 2: this blockade they have now on Finnishel, what impact would

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Speaker 2: this have on Cuba.

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Speaker 3: It's the same thing because they are choosing to follow

725
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Speaker 3: follow the revolutionary example of the Cuban people, our African

726
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 3: sisters and brothers. This is an African revolt, This is Africa.

727
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Speaker 3: Cuba was the host of the Peoples of African Descent

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Speaker 3: tenth Anniversary Summit last year. Venezuela has been at the forefront.

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Speaker 3: If you go back and look at the records, they've

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Speaker 3: been a couple of African South American summits where African

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Speaker 3: nations in South America in the Caribbean are sitting down

732
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Speaker 3: with Africa talking about trade at a more intense level

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Speaker 3: than ever before, talking about educational partnerships and collaboratives at

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Speaker 3: a higher level than ever before. One of the things

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Speaker 3: that was brought up in our second engagement where we

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Speaker 3: had one last week, Venezuela talks to the African woman.

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Speaker 3: We're having another one in a couple of weeks. Venezuela

738
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Speaker 3: talks to unions, and the highest ranking union person in

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Speaker 3: Venezuela in terms of organizing the laborers is their ambassador

740
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Speaker 3: to Belgium, Marcos. Ambassador Marcos Garcia, who looks just like you,

741
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Speaker 3: brother Carl. You guys could be trends. He's straight up Africans,

742
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Speaker 3: Spanish speaking African though, so he's the to talk to

743
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Speaker 3: people who've been organizing in the US around quote unquote

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Speaker 3: workers issues. And remember, in this country, according to the

745
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Speaker 3: Hatch Act, it is considered an active treason for government

746
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Speaker 3: workers to strike talking about democracy, speaking of democracy. Before

747
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Speaker 3: President Maduro became the president of Venezuela, brother Carl, do

748
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Speaker 3: you know what he was, No what we was a

749
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Speaker 3: bus driver. He was a bus driver. So you gonna

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Speaker 3: tell someone that drives the Metro in DC, the Martyr

751
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Speaker 3: in Atlanta, the nypl one in New York City, the

752
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 3: buses in Baltimore. You tell them that they can be

753
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Speaker 3: president of the United States one day and see what

754
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Speaker 3: they tell you. So, this man is being vilified by

755
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Speaker 3: the Trump administration, who was vilified by the Biden administration,

756
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Speaker 3: who was vilified by the Obama administration. All every the

757
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Speaker 3: Democrats and Republicans want the Venezuelan government overthrow, even though

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Speaker 3: they have been entities within the Democratic Party who have

759
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 3: called for a more lenient approach to this issue. But

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Speaker 3: we're not fooled by that. This is the equivalent of

761
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Speaker 3: when Patrice Lamomba's life was in danger. John F. Kennedy said,

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Speaker 3: don't assassinate him, you'll make them a martyr, but don't

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Speaker 3: ever let him return to power. But Dwight Osenhoward just

764
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 3: wanted his blood like the vampire that he was. But

765
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 3: they both came to the same conclusion. Lamoomba must be

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Speaker 3: removed from power. So we're very clear when the Democrats

767
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Speaker 3: and Republicans play ping pong on what is called foreign policy,

768
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 3: they both want regime change, but they take a different

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Speaker 3: approach to it. Bernie Sanders was just as committed to

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Speaker 3: overthrowing the government of Zimbabwe as George W. Bush was.

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Speaker 3: So we have to be very clear when it comes

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Speaker 3: to that, because they have They were put him on

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Speaker 3: the floor for a couple of minutes old. Right, then

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Speaker 3: we've got to check the trafficking, and our station's got

775
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Speaker 3: to identify themselves down the line pre to the sec

776
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Speaker 3: three minutes away from the top of the family. You

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Speaker 3: listen to brother Obie brothers go till his friends are.

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Speaker 3: They are in a big event in Baltimore this weekend

779
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 3: Sunday actually, and if you like to speak to him

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Speaker 3: right now, give us an updow on what's going on

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Speaker 3: in Venezuela. Reach out to us at eight hundred four

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Speaker 3: five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take your

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Speaker 3: phone calls next YEA.

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Speaker 13: Eighty one looks pretty good right now between Winchester Martinsburg

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Speaker 13: to Hager's Town seventy no delays between Hager'stown Frederick and

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Speaker 13: even beyond that southbound two seventy good out of Frederick

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Speaker 13: toward the lane Vite three forty no delays between Frederick

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Speaker 13: Harper's Ferry to Charlestown and Root nine busy through Charlestown.

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Speaker 13: But otherwise you're good getting into Hillsboro and on your

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Speaker 13: way toward the Berlin Turnpike and Roots seven. I don't

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Speaker 13: see any accidents fifteen across point of rocks Luck it's

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Speaker 13: to Leesburg. I'm Ali Oakley, and that's a look at

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Speaker 13: your traffic. Eighty one looks pretty good right now between

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Speaker 13: Winchester Martinsburg to Hagar'stown. Seventy no delays between Hagerstown Frederick

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Speaker 13: and even beyond that southbound two seventy good out of

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Speaker 13: Frederick toward the lane Vite three forty no delays between

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Speaker 13: Frederick Harper's Ferry to Charlestown and Route nine busy through Charlestown.

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Speaker 13: But otherwise you're good getting into Hillsboro and on your

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Speaker 13: way toward the Berlin Turnpike and Roots seven. I don't

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Speaker 13: see any accidents. Fifteen across point of rocks luck At

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Speaker 13: to Leesburg. I'm Ali Oakley, and that's a look at

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Speaker 13: your traffic.

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Speaker 10: Fourteen fifty w o L fifteen w o L Washington

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Speaker 14: of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect

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Speaker 14: the views of Urban One Incorporated, Radio one or any

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Speaker 14: of its subsidiary companies.

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Speaker 1: You're fucking with the most submission the Carl Nelson Show.

812
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,760
Speaker 1: You're fucking with the most submissive.

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Speaker 2: Grand Rising family. Thanks for starting your Thursday with us again.

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Speaker 2: We have our guest. We have Brother Obie's bought along

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Speaker 2: with the two of his fellow guess as well Sister Seleake.

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Speaker 2: He's with us. I hope I'm pronounce your name correctly,

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00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 2: Sister Betty, and also doctor Asked Winkler's with us and uh,

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Speaker 2: Brother Obi. Sandra's calling from Baltimore has a question for

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Speaker 2: you guys and Grand Rising Sondra.

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Speaker 15: I mean some calling from Washington and Brother ob I

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Speaker 15: can't believe I'm still on the radio since the Cappie

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Speaker 15: Hughes days, but I called because I have uh supported

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Speaker 15: Roots Charter School. I am a personal friend to doctor

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Speaker 15: Bernita Thompson and also uh doctor a comes on her

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Speaker 15: daughter and all so out well, I can't pronounce afteric

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Speaker 15: name the way it shouldn't pronounce tho. I'm going to

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Speaker 15: say out of Fleming, and I'm talking about the calendars.

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Speaker 15: I just want everybody to know that the calendars are

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Speaker 15: beautiful and the information is so informative about us, and

830
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 15: there is always an insert in the calendars that talks

831
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Speaker 15: about our people, so I wanted to express myself about

832
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 15: also about the children. They are so blessed and intelligent

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Speaker 15: and oh but you have been working with the kids

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Speaker 15: for years. So I had to come on to express myself.

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Speaker 15: I don't want to get into the political part of

836
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Speaker 15: your conversation, but I had to come on about our kids.

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Speaker 15: And I just I just the kids call are so intelligent,

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00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 15: and they speak different languages and and I'm telling you

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Speaker 15: it's my spirit. Is just I want to express about

840
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Speaker 15: the kids and the calendars. So thank you so much

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Speaker 15: for listening to me, because the calendars are so important.

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00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 15: And Call, I can't believe you have a twin out here.

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00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 15: So the brother the Obie was said about a brother

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Speaker 15: that you all look so much alike that I'm gonna

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Speaker 15: tell you call. I hope I'll be able to call

846
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Speaker 15: tomorrow because I wanted to, you know, speak my mind

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Speaker 15: about a few things, because, like I said, I go

848
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Speaker 15: way back on radio with Katy Hughes. So I just

849
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Speaker 15: want everybody to have a blessed day, be set and

850
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Speaker 15: just thank God for every day that he gives us.

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Speaker 15: Cheap love alive three sixty five.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Obi, Hi, thank you, thank you su Sanza

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Speaker 2: brother Obi you want to respond or anything? She said, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I'm a product of the traders of doctor Benita Thompson

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Speaker 3: and the late Kamal Robinson, who was the first person

856
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Speaker 3: who went to Cool the same high school I did

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00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 3: ten years before and got me into teaching. And I've

858
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Speaker 3: been teaching African history to children now for thirty five years.

859
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 3: So what we've done in different institutions all over the

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Speaker 3: country throughout the world, it all started at Roots. And

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Speaker 3: since we're focusing on Kwanza. A few years ago, we

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Speaker 3: wrote a play in keith Swahili called the Key Swahili Explosion,

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Speaker 3: making the correlation between fourteen million homeless children in East

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Speaker 3: Africa and the fact that we're forty three percent of

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Speaker 3: the homeless within the borders of the United States of

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Speaker 3: America and the children of Roots. We did that with

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Speaker 3: the children of Roots through a Kiswahili class we had

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Speaker 3: and the children did that play after being prepared in

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Speaker 3: only forty five days. So we were able to do

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Speaker 3: that play with them, and so I'm eternally grateful for

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Speaker 3: having open doors their Roots. I have an unofficial residency there.

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Speaker 3: I can walk off the streets anytime and just go

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Speaker 3: in there and start teaching. So whatever children have received

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Speaker 3: from me at Muhammad University of Islam, at Sankopa Homeschool,

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Speaker 3: Community Aya Educational Institute, Kamali Academy, the Thomas and Car Center,

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Speaker 3: and Brakina Faso, the African United Diaspora in Calgary, Alberta, Canada,

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Speaker 3: lac called Manita and Cuba Casa de Cultura in Cuba.

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Speaker 4: It all all.

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Speaker 3: Started at roots, So Sister and She's for that Reme.

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Speaker 2: But Brother Obie, we got Paul Pumprey on deck of

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Speaker 2: trying to get to industry, so.

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Speaker 8: I'm to do that though.

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Speaker 2: Before we do that, though, can you tell us again

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Speaker 2: the events taking place in Baltimore on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: What I can do is I can't come after a

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Speaker 3: Sister Feluke and Brother Assar, but I'll just give you

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Speaker 3: the address, and the address is fifty five twenty five

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Speaker 3: Hartford Road, Baltimore, Maryland, two one two one four. The

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Speaker 3: event starts to from three to six and we'll be

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Speaker 3: doing our children's class with the children of Baltimore in

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Speaker 3: conjunction with the brother Bomani Amar who uses his performance

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Speaker 3: name as the Watermelon Man, whose children are toured oh

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Speaker 3: lowin Deyla, who are now college students now. So thank you,

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Speaker 3: brother Carl, and I'm always a pleasure and we'll see

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Speaker 3: you next time. And as the Honorable Marcus Messiah Garvey said,

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Speaker 3: look for us in the wind.

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Speaker 2: We thank you, thank you, and thank you, thank your

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Speaker 2: sister Shilka Batty, doctor S. R. Winkler, thank you with

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Speaker 2: will and thank you guys for putting this on for

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Speaker 2: our children.

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Speaker 5: Family.

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Speaker 2: It's eight after the top of the hour. It's a

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Speaker 2: Thursday morning, and thank you for joining us on this

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Speaker 2: Thursday morning. If you're out in La, it's raining up there,

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Speaker 2: be careful out there. As a state of emergency as

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Speaker 2: we used to see it never range in southern California.

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Speaker 2: That's the that's gone by the wayside. Uh, let's bring

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Speaker 2: it on. Next guest though, Paul Pumphrey Grand Writing, Paul,

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Speaker 2: welcome back to the program. Morning, Good morning, my good brother.

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Speaker 8: How are you doing.

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Speaker 2: I'm still learning, brother Paul, is the co friend of

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Speaker 2: the friends of the Congo. People just used to call

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Speaker 2: it Zahir or congo kinshashe you know the people just

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Speaker 2: room now just referred to it as the Congo. So Paul,

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Speaker 2: what is what's the lady's going on with with our

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Speaker 2: brothers and sisters in the Congo.

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Speaker 8: Well, some of the people have may have seen on

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Speaker 8: TV recently that there was the president of the Congo,

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Speaker 8: the President of Rwanda, and the President of the United

920
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Speaker 8: States who were signing a document calling it a peace agreement.

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Speaker 8: But the reality was that it was a document that

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Speaker 8: gave the United States businesses versus dibbies to the mineral

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Speaker 8: resources in the eastern part of the Congo. And the

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Speaker 8: whole reason why there is a war in that reason

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Speaker 8: in the first place, is that the United States has always,

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Speaker 8: since the late abies early nineties, have always decided to

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Speaker 8: have excess to the minerals located in the eastern part

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Speaker 8: of the Congo. We have minimums such as Kotan, which

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Speaker 8: has tanger like in it, which is in every piece

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Speaker 8: of sophisticated electronics in the world, and in that region

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Speaker 8: of the Congo you roughly have about seventy two percent

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Speaker 8: of all the colt in the world. And the United States,

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Speaker 8: of course, you know, this country's industries runs off of

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Speaker 8: electronics and they want to have access to it without

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Speaker 8: having to really paid for it. And what happened was

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Speaker 8: when they realized that that region of the Congo had

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Speaker 8: those minerals, two things happened. One, the dictator that they

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Speaker 8: had put in power back in the sixties, Mabutu, would

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Speaker 8: be too greedy for them to get the middals at

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Speaker 8: the price they wanted. So the US actually sent a

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Speaker 8: delegation from the State Department to the Congo to tell

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Speaker 8: Mabutu the League the country, and of course Mabutu got

943
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Speaker 8: insulted and said, this is my country. You can't tell

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Speaker 8: me to leave my country. So then they decide what

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Speaker 8: they would have to do is force them out of

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Speaker 8: the country. And then doing that, the United States had

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Speaker 8: the long history of working behind third parties, so they

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Speaker 8: began to look at the countries that were right next

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Speaker 8: to that region of the Congo. And I must say,

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Speaker 8: the Congo is the second largest country in Africa, and

951
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Speaker 8: so you have nine different countries that touches the border

952
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Speaker 8: of the Congo, but the country of Uganda, Rwanda and

953
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Speaker 8: Burundi touching the borders right next to the eastern part

954
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Speaker 8: of the Congo where these metals are located. And so

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Speaker 8: they went to Busabini in Uganda and Musabini said yes,

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Speaker 8: and boss and may after, oh, you helped me become

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Speaker 8: president through a cool Dayton. And then they went to

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Speaker 8: the government of Rwanda and Burundi and they said, we're

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Speaker 8: not interested. Well, they knew that no one would believe

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Speaker 8: a country as of Uganda, which was only one twenty

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Speaker 8: fifty size of the Congo, would be able to actually

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Speaker 8: overthrow the Congo. So they came up with a plan,

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Speaker 8: and the plan was to overthrow the governments in the

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Speaker 8: Rwanda and overthrow the government in Burundi. Now, back in

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Speaker 8: the fifties, when after the Belgian had given quote unquote

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Speaker 8: independence to Wanda, they chose a minority population of Treases

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Speaker 8: to be the ones to run the government of the Wandas,

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Speaker 8: leaving the majority of the people in Rwanda being controlled

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Speaker 8: by the Tusis. Now why was this. The reason was

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Speaker 8: obviously they still wanted to exploit the country, and to

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Speaker 8: exploit the country, they needed a government that would allow

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Speaker 8: them to do so. And evening that the tuts were

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Speaker 8: the minority, it was no way they could continue to

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Speaker 8: control the country unless they had the military support of

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Speaker 8: their former colonial power, and that was the government of Belgium. Well,

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Speaker 8: what happened then was that there became a fight between

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Speaker 8: the majority of the population in Rwanda and the tuchs

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Speaker 8: and the Tusi's laws. So a number of the families

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Speaker 8: from the Tusis left the country and moved into Uganda.

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Speaker 8: And Paul Gelgani's family was one of those families that

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Speaker 8: moved into Uganda. And so you had this large population

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Speaker 8: of Tusis now living in Uganda, and they when the

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Speaker 8: West decided to overthrow the government of Rwanda, they used

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Speaker 8: that population to work with them to help Musabni overthrow

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Speaker 8: the government inside of Rwanda. And un let's make it

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Speaker 8: very clear. Too often we're told the United States miniques

987
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Speaker 8: and democracy. Well, for those living in the United States,

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Speaker 8: I haven't figured that out yet. It doesn't really believe

989
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 8: in in democracy. What they believe in is the ability

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Speaker 8: to explore. And so they.

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Speaker 2: Were Paul Thor right there. It's fourteen minutes after the

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Speaker 2: top of our family just joining us. I guess it's

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Speaker 2: Paul Pumphrey, Paulish the co found of the Friends of

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Speaker 2: the Congo, the Central African nation that is rich in

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Speaker 2: minerals like cobalt, copper, gold, diamonds. It's just one of

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Speaker 2: the wealthiest for minerals. It's probably the wealthiest nation there

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Speaker 2: for just raw minerals. And let me ask you this question, though, Paul,

998
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Speaker 2: all those minerals that they have, why haven't they feared

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Speaker 2: out a way to like this Hell Nations, to use

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Speaker 2: their use those resources to build a country, to build

1001
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 2: it better, a betterMy Why do they still have to

1002
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 2: rely on French and Europeans to deliver it, To come

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Speaker 2: in there and mine the gold and the cobalt and

1004
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 2: the copper and all of that stuff and then turn

1005
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 2: around and make manufacture items and then resell them back

1006
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 2: to them at exorbitant prices. This is what the Sale

1007
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:23,639
Speaker 2: Nations have done, hasn't Why hasn't the Congo figured that out?

1008
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 2: And do you think they'll ever join up with us

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Speaker 2: the Hell Nations?

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Speaker 8: That'sn't that's the question you asked. The answer to that

1011
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:36,919
Speaker 8: question is says the US government participated with the government

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01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:42,639
Speaker 8: from Belgium to overthrow the first elected head of state

1013
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:47,680
Speaker 8: who was elected Prime Minister of Patricia Lamumberg, simply because

1014
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 8: they overthrew him because he said he wanted to use

1015
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 8: the resources of the Congo to benefit the people of

1016
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Speaker 8: the Congo first. And they actually not only overthrew him,

1017
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 8: but killed him. And after killing him, they put his

1018
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 8: body into asset so that nobody in the country would

1019
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 8: be able to eaven and celebrate his life, because they

1020
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 8: just showed every aspect of his body except for one

1021
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 8: two in which they took back to Belgians. Ever since

1022
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Speaker 8: that time, when there's been an election inside of the Congo,

1023
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 8: there has been heavy influence of those same countries overseeing

1024
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:37,760
Speaker 8: the election to make sure that those elections do not

1025
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Speaker 8: allow the people of the Congo to choose their head

1026
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 8: of state. Let me give you an example back in

1027
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Speaker 8: nineteen ninety five.

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Speaker 2: I know that example, right, Paul. We gotta take a

1029
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:49,679
Speaker 2: short break and we come back. I'll let you finish

1030
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 2: your saying. It's just waiting up. I guess this pull comfort.

1031
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,719
Speaker 2: Paul is the co founder, one of the co founders

1032
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 2: of the Friends of the Congo. Discussion what's going on

1033
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 2: in that central after nation. I mentioned this really really

1034
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 2: rich in minerals like cold bought copper, gold, diamonds, got

1035
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 2: all of that stuff right there in the ground, and

1036
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,839
Speaker 2: yet still they can't figure a way how to recycle

1037
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 2: that and make it use for their for their fellow countrymen.

1038
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 2: That's what we're talking about there. How can we do

1039
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 2: it in Pauliles every time they tried the Europeans and

1040
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 2: somehow figured out to take out the person who's leading

1041
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 2: the change. What are your thoughts? You two can join

1042
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 2: our conversation. Reach out to us at eight hundred four

1043
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 2: five zero seventy eight seventy six. I let me take

1044
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:28,560
Speaker 2: a phone calls.

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Speaker 9: Next yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know.

1046
01:10:51,760 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 10: Yeah, fourteen fifty wol Now back to the Karl Nelson Show.

1047
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Speaker 2: Thank Grand Rising family, Thanks for waking up with us

1048
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:03,720
Speaker 2: on this Thursday morning, twenty one minutes after the top

1049
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 2: of the Married Christmas. For those of you who are celebrating,

1050
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:08,680
Speaker 2: and now I guess it's Paul Pumphrey. Paul is the

1051
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 2: co founder of the Friends of the Congo. It's the

1052
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 2: Middle Rich African nations in Central Africa, and the question

1053
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 2: he said, my Christian tim was about the chances of

1054
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 2: them joined us the hell Nations and fighting for their independence.

1055
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Speaker 2: They're the largest of the Francophone colonies in Africa or

1056
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 2: former colonies, if you will, so, Paul, I'm gonna let

1057
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 2: you finish telling us what's going and thank you for

1058
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 2: the history. By the way, So many folks don't know it.

1059
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 2: I'm sure many people don't know King Leopold what he did,

1060
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 2: the Belts and the rest of the Belgians did to

1061
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Speaker 2: our brothers and sisters in the Congo formerly known as Sahia.

1062
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 2: So go ahead and finish your story. Well that is

1063
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 2: put up the word King leopol Let me explain one

1064
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 2: thing about King Leopold. King Leopold was the king of

1065
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 2: Beltiam and back in eighteen eighty four eighteen eighty five

1066
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 2: at the Berlin Conference where they divided up to Africa

1067
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:04,639
Speaker 2: amongst the different European nations, Belgium was a very underdeveloped country.

1068
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 2: It really had no need for rubber. So the question

1069
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 2: has to be asked, why was it that Belgium was

1070
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:14,760
Speaker 2: pushing so hard to have the Congo. What was the

1071
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 2: motives behind King Leopold pushing for that? And the answer

1072
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 2: was simple. United States knew that Europe was not going

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Speaker 2: to allow the United States to tame any part of

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Speaker 2: the of Africa, and so the US needed a partner,

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01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 2: and so they partnered Appa King Liopold to.

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01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 8: Push for the Congo. Because the United States went in

1077
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 8: access to the rubber that was located in the eastern

1078
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:46,479
Speaker 8: part of the Congo. Now why Welford Motor Company was

1079
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 8: making cars and they needed rubber for the tires, and

1080
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 8: the US had the technology to develop the rubber plan

1081
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:01,600
Speaker 8: where the Belgium did not, and so they pushed for

1082
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:04,640
Speaker 8: the King of Belgium, not the government of Belgium, but

1083
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 8: the King of Belgium to request for the Congo region.

1084
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 8: At that time, they called it the Free Congo Regions.

1085
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 8: And at the same time United States at the conference

1086
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 8: lobbying with the other European nations to allow for the

1087
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 8: King of Belgium to have that part of Africa, and

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01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 8: they ended up agreeing to that. And that was the

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01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 8: reason why King Leopold, for example, used the method of

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01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 8: having his army actually threatened the Congolese who they had

1091
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 8: harvessing the rubbers that they must meet their quota, and

1092
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 8: that they didn't meet their quota, they would go to

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01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:54,759
Speaker 8: their home, find a member of their family and cut

1094
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 8: a limb off the member of the Poland so many

1095
01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:04,480
Speaker 8: people's family laws, hands, arms, and other limbs on their bodies,

1096
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 8: definitely because their family member working in the rubber plantation

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01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 8: could not meet the quota that King Liverpol had set

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01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:17,720
Speaker 8: for them. To reach for that day. They just think

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01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 8: about that. And the US is very interesting in the

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01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 8: point that they act like they had nothing to do

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01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 8: with why King Liverpol had the demand of hobbling so

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01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 8: much rubber. So the United States involvement in the Congo

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01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 8: goes way back to the eighteen hundreds, and we need

1104
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:41,600
Speaker 8: to be clear that the US has never stopped exploring

1105
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 8: and robbing the Congos. They have in other parts of

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01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 8: Africa as well. But I was before we went to

1107
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 8: the break, I was getting ready to explain that back

1108
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 8: in nineteen ninety five, I helped organize a delegation of

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01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 8: African Americans to go to Hayden and when we got

1110
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 8: there on the we had been invited by the National

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01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:07,640
Speaker 8: Peasant Movement of Haiti to come visit and see for ourselves.

1112
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 8: And as we were traveling around in Quarter Prince, what

1113
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:16,679
Speaker 8: ended up happening was that we had US troops, Prince troops,

1114
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 8: and Canadian troops all over Quart Prince and they kept

1115
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 8: stopping our vehicles, which angered members of our delegation. And

1116
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:27,720
Speaker 8: so their response to that was they wanted to meet

1117
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 8: with the US embassy. And I'm like, oh boy, So

1118
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 8: we set the meeting up and we went over to

1119
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 8: the US Embassy and when we got there, they put

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Speaker 8: us up in a conference room with a long table.

1121
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 8: The delicates set on both sides the long table. I

1122
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 8: said at the far end, and the ambassador came and

1123
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 8: he said at the near end. His name was William Swing,

1124
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:53,880
Speaker 8: like a swing on the tree. And I encouraged listeners

1125
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 8: to look him up William Swing and asked the delicates

1126
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 8: who were asking them questions. I'm looking at his facial expression.

1127
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 8: It became clear to me that this guy probably worked

1128
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 8: for the CIA. So I put my hand up to

1129
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 8: ask him a question. He called on me and I

1130
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:14,680
Speaker 8: asked him what was his sister in the State Department. Well,

1131
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 8: his answer is went on the way if people looked

1132
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:19,640
Speaker 8: up his name and there would to be people. What

1133
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 8: I'm getting ready to say, he was in Congo Bosaville,

1134
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 8: and why at the time he was in Congo Bosaville

1135
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:31,160
Speaker 8: there was a military coo de talk. He leaves Congo Bosaville,

1136
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:35,600
Speaker 8: he goes to Liberia, and while he was in Liberia

1137
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 8: there was in military coo. They talk. He leaves Liberia,

1138
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 8: he goes to South Alifiaca right before right after Nelson

1139
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:48,360
Speaker 8: Mandela won the election, but before he became president, and

1140
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 8: while he was in South Africa he hit the White

1141
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 8: regime spent other money in the national budget, so the

1142
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:56,640
Speaker 8: Mandela would not have the money to pay the military,

1143
01:17:56,680 --> 01:18:00,120
Speaker 8: which of course would have been a book baft. He

1144
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 8: leaves South Africa, he goes to Nigeria. When is in Nigeria,

1145
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 8: they'll say cool d'etar. And from Nigeria he goes to

1146
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:14,639
Speaker 8: Haiti when Arasi is being returned from a cool DeTar

1147
01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 8: in nineteen ninety four. Okay, So I come back from

1148
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 8: the Haiti in nineteen ninety eight and I asked one

1149
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 8: of my Haitian comrades, where's what does William swing up

1150
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 8: to nowadays? He goes, Oh, he's not here anymore. I said,

1151
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:34,799
Speaker 8: he isn't Where is he? Oh he's in the Congo

1152
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 8: and what is going on in the Congo at the

1153
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 8: time and attempted military coup. So we need to be

1154
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 8: clear and understanding that these cools don't just happen out

1155
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 8: of center.

1156
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:53,679
Speaker 16: Are often these cools are happening in Africa because Europe

1157
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 16: or the United States are interested in robbing the country

1158
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 16: and for whatever reason, they feel that the.

1159
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:04,439
Speaker 8: Government in power is not allowing them to rob that

1160
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 8: country the way they want to rob it, and so

1161
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 8: they then overthrow that government, usually using the military of

1162
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 8: that government. Course off in the US and Europe trained

1163
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 8: the officers, the top officers of the military in which

1164
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:21,640
Speaker 8: they recruit them into their secret police or their CIA

1165
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 8: or whatever it may be. And so I'm thinking myself more,

1166
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:28,920
Speaker 8: the Congo must be in trouble if in fact this

1167
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 8: guy's over there. And sure enough there was Uganda Miwanda

1168
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:37,719
Speaker 8: who were found their troops were found in the central

1169
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:41,720
Speaker 8: part of the Congo in nineteen ninety eight and their

1170
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:45,120
Speaker 8: effort to overthrow. To hear the state of the Congo

1171
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:48,000
Speaker 8: that they have to push him Abutu out of power

1172
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 8: had put into power Long to Billum. Now, what is

1173
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 8: even more interesting was that the president long Cabilla of

1174
01:19:57,479 --> 01:20:01,520
Speaker 8: the Congo got in touch of robbing Darby and Zimbabwe

1175
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:04,679
Speaker 8: Sama Dromo. These are here the states of these countries,

1176
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 8: Sam Dedomo from Thembia and Santos out of Mangola. Zimbabwe

1177
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:14,599
Speaker 8: sent this air force, Namibia sent his troops and Gola

1178
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 8: sent their troops and they in a very short time

1179
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:22,519
Speaker 8: defeated the small armies of Yuganda Rwanda inside the central

1180
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 8: part of the Congo. Now back in the seventies, I

1181
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 8: was a co founder of an organization called the Anti

1182
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:33,880
Speaker 8: Apartment Movement USA, in which I worked very closely with

1183
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 8: the un representatives of the Liberation Movements out of Southern Africa,

1184
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 8: FRAPO from Mibia, A and CPSCUT of South Africa, as

1185
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 8: well as the Patriotic Front out of Zimbabwe and the

1186
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:54,599
Speaker 8: generman who was the Ewen representative of SWAPO, a brother

1187
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 8: by the name of Theo Benguerere. He in fact told

1188
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:05,480
Speaker 8: me when I visited them in Windhook, the capital of Namibia,

1189
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 8: that he had gone to the Congo with his troops

1190
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:16,240
Speaker 8: and after defeating Uganda Virwanda in the central part of Congo,

1191
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:20,800
Speaker 8: he and the Feign Medicine Zimbabwe were meetings or trying

1192
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 8: to figure out how to get those shoops back home

1193
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 8: because other international law, if you defeat foreign troops in

1194
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:31,120
Speaker 8: a foreign country, you must then be responsible to get

1195
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:35,800
Speaker 8: those troops back to their home and so they were

1196
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:37,840
Speaker 8: trying to figure out how to do this because there

1197
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:41,080
Speaker 8: were no roads from the eastern part of the Congo

1198
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:44,720
Speaker 8: to the central part of the Congo. And while they

1199
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:48,479
Speaker 8: were meeting, they get a phone call from a woman

1200
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:51,680
Speaker 8: by the name a man in Albright, who happened to

1201
01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:56,680
Speaker 8: be the Secretary of State of Bill Clinton. Now why

1202
01:21:56,720 --> 01:22:00,080
Speaker 8: would she be calling them. He was calling them to

1203
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:04,560
Speaker 8: offer air transportation for the truths of Uganda and Rwanda

1204
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:07,960
Speaker 8: to take them home. Well, how does he even know

1205
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:10,559
Speaker 8: where they were unless the United States wasn't there in

1206
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:15,800
Speaker 8: the first place. And so when people ask what role

1207
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 8: does the United States play in the war inside the Congo,

1208
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:23,719
Speaker 8: whether you and estimated from the year of nineteen ninety

1209
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 8: six to two thousand and six, six million Congolese women, children,

1210
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:33,880
Speaker 8: and men were killed just in that small region of

1211
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:36,480
Speaker 8: the eastern part of Congo where those medals were located.

1212
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 8: From that information, it became clear to me that the

1213
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 8: United States played a major role in it.

1214
01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:45,679
Speaker 5: Right.

1215
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:49,559
Speaker 2: And here we are, brother Paul, who thought post want

1216
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:51,519
Speaker 2: to talk to you twenty had away from the top

1217
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:54,120
Speaker 2: of our family. You two can get in on his conversation.

1218
01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:56,639
Speaker 2: I guess it's Paul Pumpfish. Paul as the co founder

1219
01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:58,160
Speaker 2: of the Friends of the Congo, and the Friends of

1220
01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:01,000
Speaker 2: Congo wanted to the richest men, old, racious countries on

1221
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:04,679
Speaker 2: the planet probably be reach. It's just got everything cobo, diamonds, gold,

1222
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 2: It's got everything right there and everything that the rest

1223
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:11,760
Speaker 2: of the people in the world need to use to manufacture.

1224
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 2: As I mentioned, it's twenty away from the top of

1225
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:16,280
Speaker 2: our Tweeter had a question for you, so please ask

1226
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:18,680
Speaker 2: your guest that this is about the UAE. What's the

1227
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:22,559
Speaker 2: UA doing in East Africa and the Sudan and information

1228
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 2: what the UAE is doing in East Africa and the Sudan.

1229
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:31,920
Speaker 8: Yes, most of the countries are, especially the old rich

1230
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:37,320
Speaker 8: countries in the Middle East, are countries that have very

1231
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:42,400
Speaker 8: close working relationships with the United States, and that in fact,

1232
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 8: Sudan has a lot of oil. United States do not

1233
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 8: want these countries to take the benefit of their oil

1234
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:56,479
Speaker 8: to use that oil to help develop their country. They

1235
01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:58,720
Speaker 8: want to keep them in a dependent state so that

1236
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:01,439
Speaker 8: they can keep buying the a at a very cheap break.

1237
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:04,600
Speaker 8: The other day, we must keep in mind, and that

1238
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 8: is this.

1239
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:12,160
Speaker 17: The United States economically became very powerful after nineteen seventy

1240
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 17: three when they cut a deal with Saudi Arabia where

1241
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:19,840
Speaker 17: Sadi Rabia basically said no one could buy oil from

1242
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:24,680
Speaker 17: Saudi Arabia off from the Middle East without using US dollars.

1243
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 8: That added the value of US dollars because everybody needed.

1244
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 18: Oil for their cars and their electric generation and based

1245
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:40,559
Speaker 18: on their sne and so that propped up the US

1246
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 18: dollar to make it very, very powerful because everybody had

1247
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 18: access to US dollars.

1248
01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:51,240
Speaker 8: And you found many nations buying US saving bonds from

1249
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:55,719
Speaker 8: the United States so that they would have money to

1250
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:59,759
Speaker 8: be able to do international trades and so international trade

1251
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:04,599
Speaker 8: the Swiss system. Man, no matter what country you were in,

1252
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:06,559
Speaker 8: if you were in Jamaica and you want to do

1253
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 8: business with Haiti, you have to buy it with the

1254
01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:14,559
Speaker 8: US dollars, not with the Jamaican dollar or the Haitian goods.

1255
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:17,680
Speaker 8: You had to buy it with the US dollars, and

1256
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:21,559
Speaker 8: so it increased the strength of the US dollars. This

1257
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 8: is one of the things that have allowed the United

1258
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:28,640
Speaker 8: States to be able to go into huge debt. I

1259
01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:32,000
Speaker 8: mean we're talking trillions and trillions and trillions of dollars

1260
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:38,360
Speaker 8: in debt and yet still be able to function because

1261
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:42,520
Speaker 8: people still have to buy the US dollars.

1262
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:45,160
Speaker 2: I shun't be here for a second here, Paul twenty

1263
01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 2: five away from the top of explain to us how

1264
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 2: this is being threatened by the you're talking about the

1265
01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:53,760
Speaker 2: petrore dollar. The United States was the reserve currency for

1266
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 2: the entire world. That the deal that you mentioned with

1267
01:25:56,920 --> 01:25:59,759
Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia, and that's why you see prices in our family.

1268
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:02,880
Speaker 2: Gas prices are down because the sauty is a pumping

1269
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:06,439
Speaker 2: out more oil. It's and what they did they restricted

1270
01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:08,600
Speaker 2: it during the Biden administration because they're friends with the

1271
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:11,400
Speaker 2: Trump administration. That's why he cast prices are lower. So

1272
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 2: let's get that straight up. It's not that the Biden

1273
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 2: did something wrong with the economy. And as Paul mentioned,

1274
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:21,920
Speaker 2: you need oil gas because the truck for the infrastructure

1275
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:25,439
Speaker 2: is built on that way to transport goods and services

1276
01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 2: all through the countries. That's why they need oil. But

1277
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:30,760
Speaker 2: the question is now bricks is coming along. And you

1278
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:33,000
Speaker 2: mentioned and I hope that people are paying attention what

1279
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:36,280
Speaker 2: you mentioned. United States dollars back isn't backed by anything.

1280
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:38,920
Speaker 2: It's got back by the good will of the American people.

1281
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:41,320
Speaker 2: That's you and I. You know, they think that the

1282
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:44,800
Speaker 2: American people has such a great armata and a great

1283
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:48,439
Speaker 2: military presence of there, and they flex and we see

1284
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:51,160
Speaker 2: what's going on now. US is flexing their muscles when

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Speaker 2: it comes to Venezuela and Venezuela's oil. But the question

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Speaker 2: I want for you, and we'll come up on a break,

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Speaker 2: I want you to get into this about the bricks

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Speaker 2: nations if you can tell the family of the bricks

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Speaker 2: Nation is and how the bricks nation that the formation

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Speaker 2: of the bricks nation is a threat to the petro

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Speaker 2: doll the reserve currency. And I'm glad that you mentioned

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Speaker 2: out that there was a deal cut with the Saudi's

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Speaker 2: and the connection with and connecting the dots for US

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Speaker 2: this morning. Famal you getting an education on foreign policy

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Speaker 2: this morning that you don't necessarily get anywhere else, even

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Speaker 2: on TV. The talking here is don't talk about this stuff.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, we got to take a quick breaks. So Paul,

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Speaker 2: when you come back, explain how the bricks nations threaten

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Speaker 2: the reserve dollar, the petro dollars they call it, because

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Speaker 2: now they're not buying, they're using their money, they're using

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Speaker 2: different kinds of fiat currency. And I glam you mentioned

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you mentioned that too about a dollar. All

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Speaker 2: they do is print more money. That's why we have

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Speaker 2: inflation because it's not backed by anything. We're off the

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Speaker 2: goal stand, and if you'll tell us who took us

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Speaker 2: off the goal standard, I appreciate it as well. Twenty

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Speaker 2: three minutes away from the top, the ot family got

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Speaker 2: to check the news and the weather in a different cities.

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Speaker 2: So you want to get in on this conversation with

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Speaker 2: Paul Pumphrey's friend of the Congo, reach out to us

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Speaker 2: at eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six

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Speaker 10: Now back to the Carl Nelson show.

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Speaker 2: Manlizing Sammy, thanks for rolling with us on this Thursday

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Speaker 2: morning at eighteen minutes away from the top of the eye.

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Speaker 2: Before we go back here, let me just remind you

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Speaker 2: and all the time means he's just a thing for yourself.

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Speaker 2: Eastern Time right here in Baltimore on ten ten WLB.

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Speaker 2: Also the thet DMB on fourteen fifteen WL. All Right, Paul,

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Speaker 2: I'll let you continue to answer those questions I post

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Speaker 2: you before we left the news update.

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Speaker 8: Okay, well again, when you look at what's been happening

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Speaker 8: with the oil situation, and she brought out the fact

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Speaker 8: that the agreement between Saudi Radier and the United States

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Speaker 8: back in nineteen seventy three was a fifth year agreement

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Speaker 8: and has come to the end, and the Saudi Arabia

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Speaker 8: said that they are not interested in continuing that agreement,

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Speaker 8: which means that people now can buy oil depending on

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Speaker 8: the seller and many other than that of the US dollars.

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Speaker 8: Then what does that mean? For example, Saudi Arabia sold

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Speaker 8: oil to China and bought things some China using their

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Speaker 8: money in the Chinese money, and so that after it

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Speaker 8: itself weakens the US dollar because now people say, what

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Speaker 8: sucks one of the mazing things I needed to buy

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Speaker 8: it on international market? What's oil? If I can buy

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Speaker 8: oil from Saudi Arabia without using US dollars, and I

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Speaker 8: can use my own currency because I have something in

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Speaker 8: Saudi Saudi Arabia wants, then we don't need to put

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Speaker 8: a lot of money inside the US dollar. That's one problem.

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Speaker 8: The second problem in the United States is now facing.

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Speaker 8: It's the fact that when the war started between Ukraine

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Speaker 8: and Russia, the United States and the Swiss system crows

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Speaker 8: took control over the three hundred billion dollars that Russia

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Speaker 8: had in the Swiss system and when and when they

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Speaker 8: had When they were doing that, that meant that other

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Speaker 8: countries were saying WHOA, if they can take over Russian's

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Speaker 8: money and a win because they decided to do it

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Speaker 8: without any international agreement, then what's stopping them from taking

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Speaker 8: over our money that we have right now in the

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Speaker 8: Swiss system. And then took complicated even more. Europe decided

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Speaker 8: that they wanted to take out of because all the

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Speaker 8: United statesate was freezed the money, so Russia couldn't use it.

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Speaker 8: For what you decided was that they were going to

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Speaker 8: take the money and you the money to give it

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Speaker 8: to Ukraine. Which then now they're talking about stealing the money,

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Speaker 8: not just raising it, but stealing it and giving it

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Speaker 8: over to Ukraine. And that even complicated the situation even

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Speaker 8: more because now people are saying, wait a minute, we

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Speaker 8: can't trust the Swiss system the coast out of whim.

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Speaker 8: You can have members of Europe or the United States

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Speaker 8: take our money and give it to somebody.

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Speaker 19: Else without any international judiciary body, the World Court or

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Speaker 19: any other judiciary body making that type of decision.

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Speaker 8: And so that again weakens the value of the US dollar.

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Speaker 8: And the other thing was that the United States put

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Speaker 8: an embankle on Russia in selling oil and they thought

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Speaker 8: that that would economically damage Russia. Well, what Russia said

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Speaker 8: to the world was, Okay, we got plenty of oil.

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Speaker 8: We're gonna sell our oil at a discount. So anybody

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Speaker 8: who wants to buy oil at a discount price is

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Speaker 8: way below with the Middle East is selling their oil

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Speaker 8: for we will sell you our oil, but there's a

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Speaker 8: caveat today. To buy our oil, you're gonna have to

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Speaker 8: buy it with our money. Now, how does a country

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Speaker 8: get Russian money to buy Russian oil? Very simple. You

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Speaker 8: bring your US dollars to Russia, you give them a

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Speaker 8: US dollars, they give you their money, okay, and then

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Speaker 8: you turn around and you give them back their money

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Speaker 8: and take their oil. Well that meant now that Russia

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Speaker 8: now is not losing its money and it's dating US

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Speaker 8: dollars as they sell their oil. And one of the

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Speaker 8: countries that did that a lot was India. India made

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Speaker 8: huge profits off of cheap Russian oil oil that they

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Speaker 8: brought down to India, refine the oil, and then sold

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Speaker 8: the oil to Europe at a much higher price. Even

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Speaker 8: Saudi Arabia brought oil using that method from Russia and

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Speaker 8: then refine the oil in Saudi Arabia and then sold

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Speaker 8: it to Europe. So all these different efforts that were

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Speaker 8: used supposedly, we can the economy of Russia actually ended

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Speaker 8: up strengthening the economy of Russia. And we can the

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Speaker 8: economy of the US dollar. And so we too often

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Speaker 8: we watch our news and we hear the news not

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Speaker 8: explain any of this type of information at all. And

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Speaker 8: that helps us to understand why the United States all

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Speaker 8: of a sudden now is going back after Venezuela. Now,

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Speaker 8: as a person who have had the opportunity to be

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Speaker 8: in Venezuela, I can tell you the government of Venezuela

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Speaker 8: is a popular governments. But what it's not popular in

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Speaker 8: Venezuela is the embargo that the United States has put

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Speaker 8: off Venezuela versus greatly crippled the economy of Venezuela. Now,

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Speaker 8: as I mentioned earlier, the US dollar has a lot

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Speaker 8: to do.

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Speaker 2: For a second, here a twelve away from the top

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Speaker 2: of airport, and that's one of the things they do.

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Speaker 2: They want to cripple the economy. So the folks who

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Speaker 2: have problems getting food, getting you know, electricity like was

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Speaker 2: handing in Cuba, and then they'll turn on their leader

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Speaker 2: and blame the leader for you know, that's how you

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Speaker 2: destabilize these countries. And then they move in and put

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Speaker 2: somebody in who will dance to their tube, but go

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Speaker 2: ahead and finish it.

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Speaker 8: Thought, okay, And so what is happening in Venezuela is

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Speaker 8: this whole effort of trying to create decision because people

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Speaker 8: are not able Venezuela's not able to use their oil

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Speaker 8: to buy the kind of things they need for the

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Speaker 8: people of their country. And in that economic crisis, whether

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Speaker 8: you see that in Haiti or whether you see that

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Speaker 8: in Venezuela, obviously people then leave the country looking for

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Speaker 8: a better way of supporting their family. I mean, we've

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Speaker 8: had that happen in Ol Salvador. Whether the United States

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Speaker 8: was greatly involved in a war in Alsavador for over

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Speaker 8: twenty some odd years. And while you have hants people,

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Speaker 8: do you think people from al Salvador came to the

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Speaker 8: United States because they wanted to deceive snow? No, they

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Speaker 8: came to United States because it may be almost impossible

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Speaker 8: for them to support their family inside of our salvadorf

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Speaker 8: you know. And so you find these ways of people

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Speaker 8: coming into the United States. You've got people coming in

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Speaker 8: from Nigeria, you got people coming in from several different

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Speaker 8: countries in Africa. Why because of the way that Europe

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Speaker 8: and the United States have exploited those countries and often

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Speaker 8: put in leadership in the governments of those countries that

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Speaker 8: had not served the best interest of the people of

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Speaker 8: those countries. And this is why, for example, there's so

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Speaker 8: much attention now throughout Africa paying attention to what's happened

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Speaker 8: to be bikini fossil, because bikini fossil is doing the

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Speaker 8: exact opposite. And as they're doing the opposite, they're showing

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Speaker 8: to other African people across the continent that their government

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Speaker 8: can't do a carry out the program that allows for

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Speaker 8: them to build three thousand and five thousand kilometers of

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Speaker 8: roads a day. And why is that important Because in

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Speaker 8: the countryside where people are growing their food, they grown

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Speaker 8: their food during the rainy season and then they try

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Speaker 8: to take the food to the market and it gets

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Speaker 8: stuck in the mud in their roads. And so having

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Speaker 8: good paved roads in the countryside is very important to

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Speaker 8: the economy of the people living in the country side,

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Speaker 8: because what good is it if the only place you

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Speaker 8: can sell your food is in the community to everybody

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Speaker 8: else is going the same type of food.

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Speaker 5: They need to be.

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Speaker 8: Able to drive that food from that countryside to the cities.

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Speaker 8: And in sixty years a country existed under French control,

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Speaker 8: they were not having roads built there for that to happen.

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Speaker 8: So these are the kind of examples that we need

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Speaker 8: to really better understand. And I'll tell you you will

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Speaker 8: not find this information by watching the different TV news

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Speaker 8: and you know the other type of newspapers and other

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Speaker 8: types of means, because their job is they're being paid

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Speaker 8: by the very companies that are benefiting from these type

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Speaker 8: of acts being done throughout Africa, the Caribbean, Central American,

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Speaker 8: South America. Right, I mentioned earlier about Hayes eight.

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Speaker 2: Minutes away from the top day, I got a tweet question.

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Speaker 2: The tweet that wanted to know since please ask your

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Speaker 2: guess is Ruby Will calling this shouts on Venezuela. Do

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Speaker 2: we know is that coming from the top of the

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Speaker 2: chain food chain and the administration is Rubio is The

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Speaker 2: question is no question.

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Speaker 8: There are two reasons why, okay. One is that Rubio,

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Speaker 8: who wants to overthrow the government of Cuba, definitely wants

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Speaker 8: to weekend Venezuela because they don't want Venezuela to be

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Speaker 8: able to supply oil to Cuba's to help Cuba keep

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Speaker 8: their economy moving forward. That's that's clearly that. But then

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Speaker 8: the second thing is is that the US dollar is

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Speaker 8: getting ready to take a major downfall. You know, it's

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Speaker 8: gonna collapse. And why is it going to clatch? Because one,

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Speaker 8: it's no longer being demanded amongst people to trade US

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Speaker 8: dollars on international trade, as I mentioned about the oil

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01:40:54,720 --> 01:41:00,639
Speaker 8: coming out of Russia, mentioned about to example for people

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Speaker 8: who are trading even with China that they're not China,

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01:41:05,880 --> 01:41:08,439
Speaker 8: the itself is not demanding right now a lot of

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Speaker 8: times that people do trade with US dollars with them,

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01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:19,040
Speaker 8: and so the huge value of the US dollar has

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01:41:19,080 --> 01:41:23,720
Speaker 8: greatly demandised and it's all a spoow downward. And we

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01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:27,679
Speaker 8: need to be very aware of this because we need

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01:41:27,720 --> 01:41:31,160
Speaker 8: to change the wrong doings that our governments and I'm

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01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:34,280
Speaker 8: telling you their wrong doings our government is doing. Is

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01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:37,479
Speaker 8: not just the number one political party, Both of the

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01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:41,479
Speaker 8: major political parties in this country right now are doing

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01:41:41,640 --> 01:41:44,240
Speaker 8: what they're being paid for. Now, when I say what

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01:41:44,320 --> 01:41:47,880
Speaker 8: they're being paid for, you can't run for office in

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01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:51,280
Speaker 8: the United States unless you can let people know who

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01:41:51,360 --> 01:41:53,880
Speaker 8: you are? How did they know who you are? Well,

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01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:57,320
Speaker 8: you gotta buy ads. You buy ads on TV and

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01:41:57,360 --> 01:42:02,720
Speaker 8: the newspapers and magazines, and that takes money. Then where

1514
01:42:02,760 --> 01:42:05,519
Speaker 8: you're gonna get the money from. You're gonna usually get

1515
01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:11,160
Speaker 8: the money from corporations who want you to write laws

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01:42:11,439 --> 01:42:15,439
Speaker 8: that will benefit them. And so we have a system

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01:42:15,560 --> 01:42:18,280
Speaker 8: here in this country by design.

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Speaker 2: That's a very quick question. Is we're racing the clock

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01:42:22,680 --> 01:42:24,519
Speaker 2: het sticks away from the top of that. We've got

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01:42:24,520 --> 01:42:26,120
Speaker 2: to break come up sooner. I got to ask you this,

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01:42:27,040 --> 01:42:29,559
Speaker 2: what can we do? You told all this the impending

1522
01:42:29,640 --> 01:42:33,120
Speaker 2: collapse of the dollar. This is on the horizon and

1523
01:42:33,160 --> 01:42:36,120
Speaker 2: they know that. And both as you mentioned to both parties,

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01:42:36,160 --> 01:42:39,000
Speaker 2: they know the game. What's going on. Malcolm Annaheim has

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01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:42,840
Speaker 2: tossed a lot about their soldier, doctor doctor Horn. Doctor

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01:42:42,920 --> 01:42:44,880
Speaker 2: Joel Horner talks about this quite a bit before. Are

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01:42:44,880 --> 01:42:47,080
Speaker 2: people who are listening right now? What sort of moves

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01:42:47,080 --> 01:42:47,960
Speaker 2: should we be making?

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01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:52,920
Speaker 8: The first thing we need to do is we need

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01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:56,960
Speaker 8: to inform ourselves. Well, you want to know about what's

1531
01:42:57,000 --> 01:42:59,799
Speaker 8: happening in the Congo, you can go on the internet,

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01:43:01,280 --> 01:43:04,200
Speaker 8: go to the website of Friends of the Congo. You

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01:43:04,200 --> 01:43:09,599
Speaker 8: can go to the website of Freecongo dot org. There

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01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:13,040
Speaker 8: are a number of pieces of information we can chare

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01:43:13,120 --> 01:43:16,439
Speaker 8: with you about that. The other thing I would say

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01:43:16,680 --> 01:43:21,759
Speaker 8: is that go to YouTube. As you mentioned bikini Fossil,

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01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:28,840
Speaker 8: type bikini Fossil and if people have problems in figure

1538
01:43:28,840 --> 01:43:32,160
Speaker 8: out how to spell that name, look at the map

1539
01:43:32,240 --> 01:43:37,080
Speaker 8: of Africa. The country directly north of Ghana is Bikini

1540
01:43:37,120 --> 01:43:42,960
Speaker 8: Fossil and type that name into YouTube. There are hundreds

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01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:46,320
Speaker 8: of videos that tells you what's going on inside of

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01:43:46,439 --> 01:43:50,479
Speaker 8: Bikini Fossil. And I will also mention the fact that

1543
01:43:50,600 --> 01:43:53,040
Speaker 8: if you pay attention to what is even going on

1544
01:43:53,120 --> 01:43:56,880
Speaker 8: in southern Africa, in the country of Thembia, in the

1545
01:43:56,920 --> 01:44:01,880
Speaker 8: country of Barswana. One of the first things that in fact,

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01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:06,320
Speaker 8: Namibia has a new woman president and she came into

1547
01:44:06,360 --> 01:44:09,120
Speaker 8: office like a fire out of a cannon.

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Speaker 19: One of the.

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Speaker 8: Things she said, it's clear is that she's no longer

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01:44:13,960 --> 01:44:18,679
Speaker 8: going to play the game wherein the United States dictate

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01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:21,760
Speaker 8: to them what to do. Whatever they mean by that. Well,

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01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:26,639
Speaker 8: the United States throughout Africa has told African people if

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01:44:26,640 --> 01:44:29,000
Speaker 8: they want a visa to come to the United States,

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01:44:29,280 --> 01:44:33,559
Speaker 8: they must pay a very large fee to apply for that.

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01:44:33,720 --> 01:44:36,519
Speaker 8: Visa and then it's left up to the United States

1556
01:44:36,520 --> 01:44:37,840
Speaker 8: whether or not they give it to them or not.

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01:44:37,960 --> 01:44:39,519
Speaker 8: And if they don't give it to them, the United

1558
01:44:39,560 --> 01:44:43,800
Speaker 8: States teach the money anyway. Well, she said, okay, for

1559
01:44:44,000 --> 01:44:46,519
Speaker 8: people from the United States to want to come to Namibia,

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01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:50,599
Speaker 8: we're going to touch the same amount of money. You're

1561
01:44:50,600 --> 01:44:52,160
Speaker 8: not going to be able to come to the Meibia

1562
01:44:52,200 --> 01:44:57,680
Speaker 8: for free, where people from the Membia can't apply to

1563
01:44:57,760 --> 01:44:59,800
Speaker 8: go there without having to pay you a large amount

1564
01:44:59,800 --> 01:45:00,280
Speaker 8: of mone on it.

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01:45:01,200 --> 01:45:01,360
Speaker 20: You know.

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01:45:01,680 --> 01:45:04,000
Speaker 8: She also recognized and there maybe has to be a

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01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:08,960
Speaker 8: country that has a nice sauce depositive oil. They have

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01:45:09,439 --> 01:45:12,960
Speaker 8: some of the largest diamond mines in the world, and

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01:45:13,000 --> 01:45:16,120
Speaker 8: so she says, well, our diamonds will not leave our

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01:45:16,160 --> 01:45:20,200
Speaker 8: country anymore before they are cut. We're not gonna sell

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01:45:20,280 --> 01:45:24,400
Speaker 8: you long diamonds at a very low price. But then

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01:45:24,479 --> 01:45:27,760
Speaker 8: someone to take the diamondsial place like India, have them

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01:45:27,800 --> 01:45:30,439
Speaker 8: cut very cheaply, and then sell them at a very

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01:45:30,479 --> 01:45:32,200
Speaker 8: high price somewhere else in the world.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what you have again, Paul. We gotta step

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01:45:36,040 --> 01:45:37,800
Speaker 2: aside and say, take a last look at the traffic

1577
01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:39,719
Speaker 2: and weather in a different cities. I'll let you finish

1578
01:45:39,800 --> 01:45:41,320
Speaker 2: up when you come back, and also we come back.

1579
01:45:41,360 --> 01:45:44,000
Speaker 2: We're gonna stand with doctor Jerald a Fox family. You

1580
01:45:44,080 --> 01:45:46,360
Speaker 2: two can get in our conversations this morning. Just reach

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01:45:46,400 --> 01:45:49,280
Speaker 2: out to us at eight hundred four five zero seventy

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01:45:49,320 --> 01:45:51,599
Speaker 2: eight seventy sixty. Well take a phone calls after traffic

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01:45:51,720 --> 01:45:52,519
Speaker 2: weather that's.

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Speaker 21: Next eighty one.

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Speaker 13: Looks good between Winchester, Martinsburg to Hagar'stown. I don't see

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01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:50,640
Speaker 13: any accidents. Both northbound and southbound seventy looks okay Hancock, Hagar'stown,

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01:46:50,720 --> 01:46:53,040
Speaker 13: South Mountain to ride to Frederick, lanes are open. Emerged

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01:46:53,040 --> 01:46:55,320
Speaker 13: onto southbound two seventy. It's really not all that bad.

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01:46:55,320 --> 01:46:57,120
Speaker 13: To the lane five fifteen across the point of rocks

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01:46:57,160 --> 01:46:59,800
Speaker 13: Lugg it's the Leesburg gets good and route nine out

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01:46:59,800 --> 01:47:02,960
Speaker 13: of more Inspurd to Charlestown. I don't see accidents. Traffic

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Speaker 13: slows Harper's Ferry Road a little bit, even through Hillsboro

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01:47:05,479 --> 01:47:08,240
Speaker 13: and the Berlin Turnpike. That these delays are so brief,

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Speaker 13: You're good. I'm Alie Oakley.

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Speaker 2: Rising Family. Thanks for starting your Thursday with us, and

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Speaker 2: if you're celebrating Merry Christmas to you on this twenty

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Speaker 2: fifth day of December. I guess is Paul Pumphreys. He's

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Speaker 2: a co friend of the Friends of the Congo and Momentarid.

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Speaker 2: We're going to speak with doctor Jeremy Fox, clinical psychologists

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Speaker 2: you know, and the best ways best selling workbook Addicted

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Speaker 2: shame based alliance. So Paul, I'll let you finish your

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Speaker 2: thoughts and then if you can tell folks how they

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01:48:26,680 --> 01:48:29,320
Speaker 2: can they want more information because you provide us with

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01:48:29,400 --> 01:48:32,400
Speaker 2: a lot of international information. There's a lot of information

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01:48:32,439 --> 01:48:37,040
Speaker 2: that we don't hear on regular radio, TV, even in

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01:48:37,160 --> 01:48:39,719
Speaker 2: the newspapers on on this side of the Atlantic Ocean,

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01:48:39,840 --> 01:48:41,639
Speaker 2: we don't get this kind of information that you shared

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01:48:41,680 --> 01:48:43,400
Speaker 2: with us this morning. So I'll at you finish your

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01:48:43,400 --> 01:48:45,240
Speaker 2: thought and tell us how folks can keep up with

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01:48:45,280 --> 01:48:47,679
Speaker 2: you to keep up what's going on around the world.

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Speaker 8: Yes, I well, people who want to again find out

1623
01:48:53,840 --> 01:48:58,200
Speaker 8: information about what's happening in the Congo, and the US

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01:48:58,320 --> 01:49:00,479
Speaker 8: has played a major role in that country three ever

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01:49:00,560 --> 01:49:05,879
Speaker 8: since even before it had become an independent country itself.

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01:49:05,920 --> 01:49:09,200
Speaker 8: As I mentioned about the issue of the rubb and

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01:49:09,680 --> 01:49:13,800
Speaker 8: especially also they been after the diamonds and the gold

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01:49:13,880 --> 01:49:18,160
Speaker 8: that the country has. During World War Two, the United

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01:49:18,160 --> 01:49:22,280
Speaker 8: States dropped two nuclear bombs in Japan, and the uranium

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01:49:22,360 --> 01:49:26,680
Speaker 8: for those nuclear bombs came from the Congo. So the

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01:49:26,800 --> 01:49:29,160
Speaker 8: United States has been tied to the Congo for a

1632
01:49:29,400 --> 01:49:33,400
Speaker 8: very long time. And yet most people in the United

1633
01:49:33,400 --> 01:49:37,200
Speaker 8: States know nothing about the relationship of the United States

1634
01:49:37,200 --> 01:49:39,880
Speaker 8: with the Congo. And so I'll encourage you to go

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01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:43,800
Speaker 8: to Friends of Congo dot org three Congo dot org.

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01:49:44,640 --> 01:49:49,800
Speaker 8: I also encourage you to even go to an organization

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01:49:50,000 --> 01:49:53,720
Speaker 8: called the Black Lives of Peach, which talks a lot

1638
01:49:53,760 --> 01:49:57,840
Speaker 8: about what's happening domestically as well as internationally in our

1639
01:49:57,880 --> 01:50:03,840
Speaker 8: communities across the world, especially throughout the diaspora, also saying

1640
01:50:03,960 --> 01:50:08,439
Speaker 8: that we need to really begin to start doing something

1641
01:50:08,520 --> 01:50:13,479
Speaker 8: without homework outside of the usual paid media that gives

1642
01:50:13,560 --> 01:50:17,560
Speaker 8: us information because we're not paying that media directly. Do

1643
01:50:17,640 --> 01:50:21,360
Speaker 8: you see the people who are making large money both

1644
01:50:21,400 --> 01:50:24,200
Speaker 8: domestically in this country and around the world are paying

1645
01:50:24,240 --> 01:50:27,400
Speaker 8: that media. So we did also need to maybe go

1646
01:50:27,520 --> 01:50:29,440
Speaker 8: to places like YouTube.

1647
01:50:29,439 --> 01:50:30,360
Speaker 11: And again.

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01:50:32,320 --> 01:50:35,679
Speaker 8: I'm not saying that all the information YouTube is good information,

1649
01:50:35,720 --> 01:50:39,439
Speaker 8: because it isn't. But we need to look at ways

1650
01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:45,080
Speaker 8: of getting our information beyond just the paid information that's

1651
01:50:45,080 --> 01:50:51,760
Speaker 8: given to us. I mean, if radio stations such as

1652
01:50:51,840 --> 01:50:55,240
Speaker 8: just here at wl that you're getting some of this

1653
01:50:55,360 --> 01:51:00,000
Speaker 8: good information from and so let us not limit ourselves

1654
01:51:00,080 --> 01:51:03,719
Speaker 8: so what is easy for us to receive because usually

1655
01:51:03,760 --> 01:51:06,200
Speaker 8: if that's the case, then we're getting what people are

1656
01:51:06,320 --> 01:51:11,719
Speaker 8: paying other people to give us information to serve their interests,

1657
01:51:11,840 --> 01:51:15,200
Speaker 8: not ours. And so those are the times things I

1658
01:51:15,240 --> 01:51:20,479
Speaker 8: would suggest there are different speakers that are speaking a

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01:51:20,520 --> 01:51:25,920
Speaker 8: different event around the different cities and towns. Again, I

1660
01:51:25,920 --> 01:51:29,200
Speaker 8: would encourage you to branch out a little bit. If

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01:51:29,280 --> 01:51:31,600
Speaker 8: someone's going to talk about the Congo, someone's going to

1662
01:51:31,680 --> 01:51:34,720
Speaker 8: talk about Africa, go listen to what they have to

1663
01:51:34,760 --> 01:51:38,120
Speaker 8: say where you can directly answer them questions and listen

1664
01:51:38,160 --> 01:51:41,000
Speaker 8: to their answers and see if their answers make any sense.

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01:51:41,040 --> 01:51:45,200
Speaker 8: To you or not. We'll have to venture out. We

1666
01:51:45,360 --> 01:51:48,639
Speaker 8: have to take the initiative to look for information on

1667
01:51:48,640 --> 01:51:51,840
Speaker 8: our own because if it's coming to us easily off,

1668
01:51:51,920 --> 01:51:55,360
Speaker 8: it means that's information that may not be very good.

1669
01:51:56,400 --> 01:51:59,800
Speaker 8: And so like this show here is early in the morning. Yeah,

1670
01:51:59,840 --> 01:52:01,320
Speaker 8: that means you may have to get out of beta

1671
01:52:01,320 --> 01:52:03,840
Speaker 8: early in the morning and get some good information. But

1672
01:52:03,920 --> 01:52:07,000
Speaker 8: that's what you need to do, because that's why you'll

1673
01:52:07,040 --> 01:52:10,800
Speaker 8: get that good information. You know. So I was dead?

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01:52:12,400 --> 01:52:13,479
Speaker 11: Yeah, go ahead, thank you, Paul.

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01:52:14,400 --> 01:52:16,840
Speaker 2: So how can folks reach you though, because we've got

1676
01:52:16,880 --> 01:52:19,080
Speaker 2: doctor Fox, I'm deck. How can folks reach you?

1677
01:52:19,200 --> 01:52:23,439
Speaker 8: Okay? If person want to directly meet me, meet me

1678
01:52:23,600 --> 01:52:29,720
Speaker 8: by email, go to Friends of My name is Paul

1679
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:33,439
Speaker 8: dot Pumphrey. Wait a minute, let me change that is

1680
01:52:33,479 --> 01:52:42,000
Speaker 8: Paul at friendsofthecongo dot org, Paul at friends whether they're

1681
01:52:42,360 --> 01:52:47,880
Speaker 8: in the friends of Thecongo dot o RG. You can

1682
01:52:47,920 --> 01:52:52,559
Speaker 8: reach me by email that way, and I even give

1683
01:52:52,600 --> 01:52:54,240
Speaker 8: you your number. If you want to go to watch

1684
01:52:54,240 --> 01:53:00,719
Speaker 8: Out three or one, two, five, seven, six one severnce,

1685
01:53:01,640 --> 01:53:03,479
Speaker 8: you can go to me by way of What's appened.

1686
01:53:03,520 --> 01:53:05,960
Speaker 8: If you have questions that you would like to meet

1687
01:53:05,960 --> 01:53:08,840
Speaker 8: the answer or if you were like for us Friends

1688
01:53:08,840 --> 01:53:12,240
Speaker 8: of the Congo to come speak at your school about

1689
01:53:12,240 --> 01:53:16,920
Speaker 8: what's going on in Africa. What's going on in the Congo. Again,

1690
01:53:17,760 --> 01:53:24,080
Speaker 8: the Congo has one really important resource, the Congolese River,

1691
01:53:24,360 --> 01:53:29,080
Speaker 8: which is the second largest river in the world. It's

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01:53:29,120 --> 01:53:31,920
Speaker 8: so powerful that if you put hydro electric dams on

1693
01:53:31,960 --> 01:53:35,880
Speaker 8: the Congolese River, you could produce enough electricity need to

1694
01:53:35,880 --> 01:53:38,559
Speaker 8: meet the electric needs of the continent of Africa for

1695
01:53:38,600 --> 01:53:43,200
Speaker 8: the next twenty five years. Think about that, and so

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01:53:43,760 --> 01:53:47,760
Speaker 8: Congo is key, it's ready in the center of Africa.

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01:53:47,840 --> 01:53:52,800
Speaker 8: And whether the equator runs straight through the Congo and the.

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01:53:52,840 --> 01:53:56,240
Speaker 2: Cores rainfall, Doctor Foxa. But we thank you for information

1699
01:53:56,280 --> 01:53:58,599
Speaker 2: you're sharing with us this morning. And if anything jumps

1700
01:53:58,640 --> 01:54:00,479
Speaker 2: off you, if you think we should need to know,

1701
01:54:00,600 --> 01:54:02,360
Speaker 2: just give us a call and we'll share it with

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01:54:02,400 --> 01:54:03,600
Speaker 2: the family. But thank you for you.

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01:54:03,960 --> 01:54:06,160
Speaker 8: I want to thank you for the opportunity to share

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01:54:06,200 --> 01:54:06,920
Speaker 8: this information.

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01:54:08,000 --> 01:54:10,599
Speaker 2: Alrighty family. As Paul pumpers his group, he's a co

1706
01:54:10,680 --> 01:54:13,120
Speaker 2: founder of the Friends of the Congo, who's connecting a lot

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01:54:13,120 --> 01:54:15,599
Speaker 2: of doctor us this morning. Eight after the top here,

1708
01:54:15,680 --> 01:54:17,559
Speaker 2: let's switch over and out to Philly. Let's go speak

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Speaker 2: to uh doctor doctor Fox, Doctor jerome E Fox, grand Rising,

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01:54:22,080 --> 01:54:30,960
Speaker 2: welcome back to the program, doctor Fox. There, yes, oh

1711
01:54:31,040 --> 01:54:31,400
Speaker 2: there you go.

1712
01:54:31,560 --> 01:54:32,520
Speaker 3: Can you see you there?

1713
01:54:32,520 --> 01:54:35,600
Speaker 2: Doctor Fox? Thank you and welcome back to the program. Yeah,

1714
01:54:35,680 --> 01:54:41,680
Speaker 2: thank you, doctor Fox. The folks who support this fellow

1715
01:54:41,760 --> 01:54:45,480
Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk is going around saying that he's there mountin

1716
01:54:45,560 --> 01:54:48,840
Speaker 2: Luther King. He's they're going to draw analogis to doctor King.

1717
01:54:48,920 --> 01:54:52,320
Speaker 2: Some people took really upset with that, to humbers of

1718
01:54:52,360 --> 01:54:56,160
Speaker 2: that describing the Charlie Clerk. And people are afraid to

1719
01:54:56,160 --> 01:54:59,760
Speaker 2: even mention his name, you know, because they don't want

1720
01:54:59,760 --> 01:55:02,240
Speaker 2: to get canceled. I want to get your thoughts on that.

1721
01:55:02,560 --> 01:55:06,760
Speaker 2: Is this how white folks saw the doctor King so

1722
01:55:06,840 --> 01:55:09,760
Speaker 2: that they could compare him with a person and I

1723
01:55:10,040 --> 01:55:13,240
Speaker 2: just call him interner stuff like Charlie Kirk.

1724
01:55:14,120 --> 01:55:17,320
Speaker 5: Well, I think if people are aware of I had

1725
01:55:17,320 --> 01:55:21,280
Speaker 5: a list, I don't have it right at hand of

1726
01:55:21,360 --> 01:55:25,320
Speaker 5: the thing. And he said he is a derogatory the

1727
01:55:25,400 --> 01:55:28,840
Speaker 5: derogatory things that he has said about black people and

1728
01:55:28,920 --> 01:55:32,800
Speaker 5: specific black people and his life. I mean, this man

1729
01:55:32,920 --> 01:55:34,920
Speaker 5: is not a Christian, as I said. I think the

1730
01:55:35,000 --> 01:55:41,040
Speaker 5: last time I was on the radio that these newscasters

1731
01:55:41,080 --> 01:55:45,760
Speaker 5: and everywhere, and he's just referring to these racist monsters

1732
01:55:46,480 --> 01:55:50,920
Speaker 5: as evangelicals, even though I was just reading in the

1733
01:55:50,960 --> 01:55:54,400
Speaker 5: Bible today as a matter of fact this morning in

1734
01:55:54,440 --> 01:55:59,800
Speaker 5: Matthew chapter seven, where he talks aboubout wolves and sheep,

1735
01:56:00,840 --> 01:56:04,440
Speaker 5: you know clothing. Uh, these are all wolves and cheap clothing,

1736
01:56:06,040 --> 01:56:12,280
Speaker 5: you know, wrapping themselves and religious talk in order to

1737
01:56:13,440 --> 01:56:18,240
Speaker 5: you know, justify what they're saying and add perhaps a

1738
01:56:18,360 --> 01:56:25,800
Speaker 5: sweeter sound uh to their you know, wickedness. So that's

1739
01:56:26,080 --> 01:56:31,680
Speaker 5: that's the background. These people really should not be attended

1740
01:56:31,720 --> 01:56:35,320
Speaker 5: to in any way. Uh. Scripture says that we are

1741
01:56:35,480 --> 01:56:38,920
Speaker 5: to really block that out to come out from among them.

1742
01:56:39,040 --> 01:56:42,400
Speaker 5: So a lot of arguing about someone who who really

1743
01:56:42,560 --> 01:56:47,480
Speaker 5: was just a complete hypocrite, it's not a useful Uh,

1744
01:56:49,280 --> 01:56:54,800
Speaker 5: it's not useful a useful use of our time. So

1745
01:56:54,880 --> 01:56:59,520
Speaker 5: that's first and foremost. So whatever else people, his acolytes,

1746
01:56:59,600 --> 01:57:05,080
Speaker 5: his race, his accolytes are claiming, is equally nonsensical and

1747
01:57:05,080 --> 01:57:08,920
Speaker 5: and a waste of our time in my view. You know,

1748
01:57:08,960 --> 01:57:11,600
Speaker 5: they say these things to keep their name out there

1749
01:57:12,120 --> 01:57:18,680
Speaker 5: and to keep their wicked their wickedness alive, And we

1750
01:57:19,360 --> 01:57:24,360
Speaker 5: help that process of keeping their wickedness alive by engaging

1751
01:57:24,800 --> 01:57:28,840
Speaker 5: in these foolish kinds of debates. Any anybody who knows

1752
01:57:28,920 --> 01:57:32,800
Speaker 5: what Charlie stood for and the things that he said

1753
01:57:34,320 --> 01:57:39,120
Speaker 5: compare to the things that came out of doctor King's mouth,

1754
01:57:39,480 --> 01:57:45,240
Speaker 5: There's no question, there's no comparison there. Uh. Devils want

1755
01:57:45,280 --> 01:57:52,200
Speaker 5: to worship devils. Uh, I want to admire their fellow demons,

1756
01:57:52,280 --> 01:57:56,720
Speaker 5: just as you know, decent people tend to admire other

1757
01:57:56,960 --> 01:58:01,760
Speaker 5: decent people. But there is no real comparison. And as

1758
01:58:01,840 --> 01:58:07,040
Speaker 5: I say, just to keep his nonsense and his racist

1759
01:58:07,120 --> 01:58:16,560
Speaker 5: statements alive, they you know, create these nonsensical debates. And

1760
01:58:16,960 --> 01:58:22,280
Speaker 5: to me, we are so eager to be among these

1761
01:58:22,360 --> 01:58:28,640
Speaker 5: monsters and respond to these monsters and copy these monsters.

1762
01:58:29,200 --> 01:58:32,840
Speaker 5: There should should be total silence on statements like that.

1763
01:58:32,920 --> 01:58:36,280
Speaker 5: We shouldn't even be listening to that nonsense. It has

1764
01:58:36,320 --> 01:58:40,800
Speaker 5: no use in our lives and our in our effort

1765
01:58:40,960 --> 01:58:45,840
Speaker 5: to advance, you know, in this society or where or

1766
01:58:46,000 --> 01:58:49,520
Speaker 5: we languish, so to speak. So that's all I have

1767
01:58:49,560 --> 01:58:51,600
Speaker 5: to say about that. It's complete nonsense and you should

1768
01:58:51,600 --> 01:58:54,040
Speaker 5: know it, and people should not be engaging it. And

1769
01:58:54,080 --> 01:58:56,839
Speaker 5: it is just keeping that nonsense alive.

1770
01:58:58,240 --> 01:59:00,680
Speaker 2: So so what do we say, doctor thachon thirteen half

1771
01:59:00,680 --> 01:59:03,040
Speaker 2: of child their founidly, we just had Nicki midaj just

1772
01:59:03,320 --> 01:59:06,120
Speaker 2: went over there and kissed the ring and joined them.

1773
01:59:06,160 --> 01:59:09,560
Speaker 2: We had uh snoop doggs snoop doggs quota saying that

1774
01:59:09,560 --> 01:59:12,680
Speaker 2: that Charlie Charlie Kirk was like a brother to me.

1775
01:59:12,920 --> 01:59:16,120
Speaker 2: We see he's blowing up now he's on NBC's got

1776
01:59:16,200 --> 01:59:18,840
Speaker 2: him as an ambassador in the Olympics, and we see

1777
01:59:18,880 --> 01:59:21,320
Speaker 2: him on TV and he I should get your thoughts.

1778
01:59:21,440 --> 01:59:24,120
Speaker 2: And then he's yeah, what's the other one's name? I

1779
01:59:24,120 --> 01:59:29,800
Speaker 2: can't think of the name right now? Uh uh what

1780
01:59:29,920 --> 01:59:32,640
Speaker 2: these black folks, what do they see that we don't see?

1781
01:59:33,120 --> 01:59:36,480
Speaker 5: Well, these are well, they don't see anything except dollar signs.

1782
01:59:37,520 --> 01:59:41,400
Speaker 5: These are These are people who have never been for

1783
01:59:41,520 --> 01:59:44,920
Speaker 5: the black community. If you look at their so called art,

1784
01:59:45,280 --> 01:59:52,520
Speaker 5: it was always just furthering stereotypes of black folks, encouraging

1785
01:59:52,600 --> 01:59:56,960
Speaker 5: people to call black women the B word, et cetera,

1786
01:59:57,000 --> 02:00:02,960
Speaker 5: et cetera, all sexual eye nonsense. I mentioned this in

1787
02:00:03,040 --> 02:00:10,280
Speaker 5: my book one of the thoughts for Today that I list.

1788
02:00:10,480 --> 02:00:12,200
Speaker 5: I'm trying to get to it right there and now,

1789
02:00:12,640 --> 02:00:16,360
Speaker 5: where I talk about the misogynist lyrics and at least,

1790
02:00:16,880 --> 02:00:21,000
Speaker 5: uh too many and some of you know, black rap

1791
02:00:21,120 --> 02:00:26,400
Speaker 5: music are just a catalysts for African self hatred. If

1792
02:00:26,440 --> 02:00:31,000
Speaker 5: the proper target for these ranting arrows were in view,

1793
02:00:31,440 --> 02:00:35,360
Speaker 5: which would be white oppressors, there would be no thought

1794
02:00:35,400 --> 02:00:39,520
Speaker 5: of calling Black women bitches or whoes or for sport

1795
02:00:39,800 --> 02:00:47,320
Speaker 5: or for business. They are just supporting, you know, white

1796
02:00:47,320 --> 02:00:54,920
Speaker 5: folks stereotype attempts to stereotype Black people, to insert in

1797
02:00:55,280 --> 02:01:04,080
Speaker 5: the black image all of the self rejection of themselves.

1798
02:01:04,160 --> 02:01:07,480
Speaker 5: Quite frankly, all these things that they accused black people

1799
02:01:07,520 --> 02:01:10,280
Speaker 5: of of doing or wanting to do, or I think

1800
02:01:10,800 --> 02:01:15,800
Speaker 5: are the things that white folk really engage in. And

1801
02:01:15,840 --> 02:01:20,400
Speaker 5: they insert their nonsense, project their nonsense onto black people.

1802
02:01:21,120 --> 02:01:25,480
Speaker 5: As I mentioned and another point in the book, projection

1803
02:01:26,240 --> 02:01:31,680
Speaker 5: is the primary uh defense mechanism that white folk use

1804
02:01:31,880 --> 02:01:35,720
Speaker 5: to I guess ignore their own wickedness. They projected on

1805
02:01:36,120 --> 02:01:41,280
Speaker 5: other people, and people like Snoop and the Nikki as

1806
02:01:41,280 --> 02:01:46,120
Speaker 5: she you know, runs behind I saw her on this

1807
02:01:46,400 --> 02:01:51,160
Speaker 5: stage with these white monsters and she's just you know,

1808
02:01:51,760 --> 02:01:55,040
Speaker 5: running behind this white woman, this blond haired white woman

1809
02:01:55,480 --> 02:01:59,560
Speaker 5: like a lap dog. Uh as her as her a

1810
02:01:59,600 --> 02:02:04,400
Speaker 5: star sort of dems Uh, she's looking for other avenues

1811
02:02:04,880 --> 02:02:08,120
Speaker 5: to make money. And all those people in the Republican

1812
02:02:08,240 --> 02:02:13,959
Speaker 5: Party are just about nothing about are about nothing except

1813
02:02:14,680 --> 02:02:18,040
Speaker 5: their own narcissism, as I mentioned in my book and greed.

1814
02:02:19,360 --> 02:02:23,960
Speaker 5: So she's looking for another avenue to, you know, just

1815
02:02:24,120 --> 02:02:30,120
Speaker 5: make make more money, saying with Snoop Dogg has never

1816
02:02:30,200 --> 02:02:34,400
Speaker 5: been an asset to the Black community. And we again

1817
02:02:34,720 --> 02:02:40,640
Speaker 5: allow our enemy to tell us who we should follow

1818
02:02:40,720 --> 02:02:44,440
Speaker 5: behind and who we should respect, and we accept that

1819
02:02:44,520 --> 02:02:49,840
Speaker 5: these people have never been respectable members of our community.

1820
02:02:49,920 --> 02:02:55,000
Speaker 5: And they've all always been about exploiting Black people and

1821
02:02:55,040 --> 02:02:59,960
Speaker 5: our circumstances to make money for themselves. And that's exact

1822
02:03:00,000 --> 02:03:03,440
Speaker 5: exactly what they're doing now. It's nothing new about that,

1823
02:03:04,680 --> 02:03:08,120
Speaker 5: but we've been conditioned to respect them because they have money.

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02:03:08,120 --> 02:03:10,000
Speaker 2: You got to take a short break, So just stay

1825
02:03:10,040 --> 02:03:12,000
Speaker 2: with us a minute. Seventeen half the top their family.

1826
02:03:12,000 --> 02:03:14,240
Speaker 2: And the book he is referring to is called the

1827
02:03:14,320 --> 02:03:16,760
Speaker 2: book is it's a best and it's a workbook. It's

1828
02:03:16,840 --> 02:03:21,000
Speaker 2: called uh the Oppressed in legal the Oppressor, and it

1829
02:03:21,080 --> 02:03:24,120
Speaker 2: gives you, it gives you, gives you five steps to

1830
02:03:24,280 --> 02:03:27,520
Speaker 2: break that oppression. He says, it's a shame based alliance.

1831
02:03:28,560 --> 02:03:30,960
Speaker 2: Addicted to White. Just remember that first part of it,

1832
02:03:31,000 --> 02:03:33,440
Speaker 2: Addicted to White, the oppressed in legal the oppressure, shame

1833
02:03:33,480 --> 02:03:36,240
Speaker 2: based alliance. You got a question for doctor Fox. Reach

1834
02:03:36,280 --> 02:03:37,800
Speaker 2: out to us at eight hundred and four or five

1835
02:03:37,880 --> 02:03:41,120
Speaker 2: zero seventy eight seventy six, and Doctor Fox, when you

1836
02:03:41,160 --> 02:03:43,400
Speaker 2: come back, tell us how the white folks feel about

1837
02:03:43,440 --> 02:03:47,200
Speaker 2: a snoop feel, how they feel about Nicki Minaj, how

1838
02:03:47,200 --> 02:03:49,839
Speaker 2: to feel about Amber Rose and all these other sellouts.

1839
02:03:50,360 --> 02:03:52,880
Speaker 2: They're really embracing about their life and that, you know,

1840
02:03:52,880 --> 02:03:54,960
Speaker 2: I just want to get the say psychology behind all

1841
02:03:54,960 --> 02:03:57,480
Speaker 2: of that. We know why they do where our people do,

1842
02:03:57,560 --> 02:04:00,280
Speaker 2: but how do those their handlers feel about them? Form

1843
02:04:00,360 --> 02:04:02,520
Speaker 2: you want to join this conversation, as I said, reach

1844
02:04:02,560 --> 02:04:05,280
Speaker 2: out to us at eight hundred fully five zero seventy

1845
02:04:05,320 --> 02:04:07,280
Speaker 2: eight seventy six and we'll take your phone calls.

1846
02:04:07,200 --> 02:05:00,640
Speaker 12: Next fourteen fifty wol.

1847
02:05:06,640 --> 02:05:08,959
Speaker 1: Now back to the Carl Nelson Show.

1848
02:05:30,640 --> 02:05:32,680
Speaker 2: And Grand Rizing Family. It's not just staying with us

1849
02:05:32,720 --> 02:05:35,320
Speaker 2: on this Thursday morning, Christmas Day for some folks. Twenty

1850
02:05:35,320 --> 02:05:37,160
Speaker 2: one minutes after the top of there with our guest,

1851
02:05:37,520 --> 02:05:39,720
Speaker 2: Doctor Jeremy Fox is the author of the best selling

1852
02:05:39,720 --> 02:05:41,680
Speaker 2: workbook I Think You to White the oppressed in legal

1853
02:05:41,760 --> 02:05:44,240
Speaker 2: they oppress our shame based alliance. Before we left for

1854
02:05:44,280 --> 02:05:46,240
Speaker 2: the break, doctor Fox, how mde you finish your thoughts then?

1855
02:05:47,000 --> 02:05:49,560
Speaker 2: From us on the other side, we're seeing these sellers

1856
02:05:49,560 --> 02:05:51,240
Speaker 2: that we have in our community. I just want to

1857
02:05:51,280 --> 02:05:53,680
Speaker 2: know what white folks think about that, what they handle

1858
02:05:53,760 --> 02:05:56,960
Speaker 2: us think about them. Do they respect them or do

1859
02:05:57,000 --> 02:05:59,720
Speaker 2: they think they're better than us because they see what

1860
02:06:00,080 --> 02:06:02,800
Speaker 2: they see and they appreciate what they're doing is in

1861
02:06:03,200 --> 02:06:07,440
Speaker 2: the white community, and we're dumb we don't see what

1862
02:06:07,480 --> 02:06:10,320
Speaker 2: they're doing is good for us. I'm sort of confused

1863
02:06:10,320 --> 02:06:12,360
Speaker 2: to have how white folks see these sell us.

1864
02:06:12,720 --> 02:06:17,760
Speaker 5: Well, it's it's very simple. As I said always, I

1865
02:06:17,840 --> 02:06:24,760
Speaker 5: encourage the audience to refer to that very simple printenciple.

1866
02:06:24,880 --> 02:06:29,480
Speaker 5: All that I write in my book, I think it's

1867
02:06:29,520 --> 02:06:33,760
Speaker 5: around page nine or eleven when I explained the pillars

1868
02:06:34,280 --> 02:06:41,720
Speaker 5: of this society and certainly the pillars of their white

1869
02:06:42,040 --> 02:06:48,600
Speaker 5: value system, which are their three pillars narcissism, greed, and violence,

1870
02:06:48,920 --> 02:06:53,800
Speaker 5: and pretty much will explain their their behavior every time.

1871
02:06:55,160 --> 02:07:00,480
Speaker 5: These are people who are greedy and self centered, and

1872
02:07:00,520 --> 02:07:05,280
Speaker 5: a part of narcissism or subcategory of narcissism is racism.

1873
02:07:05,840 --> 02:07:10,040
Speaker 5: It's not only I'm better than everybody else, but you know,

1874
02:07:10,480 --> 02:07:15,800
Speaker 5: so are my people, so to speak. So it's narcissism, greed,

1875
02:07:16,120 --> 02:07:21,040
Speaker 5: and violence. So beginning with greed. Uh, these people will

1876
02:07:21,080 --> 02:07:27,240
Speaker 5: do any anything to make a bup because in truth,

1877
02:07:28,440 --> 02:07:33,600
Speaker 5: this society is God is money despite all you know,

1878
02:07:33,760 --> 02:07:38,200
Speaker 5: just you know, getting brushing aside all of the other

1879
02:07:38,400 --> 02:07:44,680
Speaker 5: claims and nonsense, uh, to clear the feel this society's

1880
02:07:45,320 --> 02:07:52,840
Speaker 5: God is money, and people come here focused on money.

1881
02:07:52,880 --> 02:07:56,160
Speaker 5: We do have an immigration problem, but it's not quite

1882
02:07:56,560 --> 02:08:00,560
Speaker 5: what people claim it is. It's the fact that people

1883
02:08:00,640 --> 02:08:06,680
Speaker 5: come here, uh, viewing America as a piggy bank. They're

1884
02:08:06,760 --> 02:08:11,880
Speaker 5: not here. Many are not really fleeing persecution. They're here

1885
02:08:11,880 --> 02:08:15,440
Speaker 5: at the so called called I have a better life.

1886
02:08:15,640 --> 02:08:19,520
Speaker 5: That's almost become euphemistic. If it was ever true, it

1887
02:08:19,600 --> 02:08:23,480
Speaker 5: certainly is not so much today. They're here to make money.

1888
02:08:23,480 --> 02:08:27,080
Speaker 5: They know nothing about how democracy works. Uh. You know,

1889
02:08:27,240 --> 02:08:32,280
Speaker 5: it's easy for evil politicians like Republicans to grab them

1890
02:08:32,720 --> 02:08:38,240
Speaker 5: and convince them that if they, you know, vote for them, uh,

1891
02:08:38,280 --> 02:08:42,400
Speaker 5: they'll they'll be in a better position to make money.

1892
02:08:42,720 --> 02:08:47,440
Speaker 5: And we see how they portrayed that or betrayed them,

1893
02:08:48,120 --> 02:08:52,960
Speaker 5: particularly these so called Hispanics. So the whole thing is

1894
02:08:53,080 --> 02:09:00,200
Speaker 5: about money, and the white folk will do anything, will

1895
02:09:00,960 --> 02:09:09,560
Speaker 5: basically uh join forces with anybody they believe will help

1896
02:09:09,680 --> 02:09:16,560
Speaker 5: them maintain their money and their position of privilege. So yes,

1897
02:09:16,920 --> 02:09:19,520
Speaker 5: I say later on the book, they'll take a few

1898
02:09:20,200 --> 02:09:26,080
Speaker 5: hardcore white addicts among us black folk and uh, you know,

1899
02:09:26,120 --> 02:09:29,360
Speaker 5: make them rich or whatever, and try to range them

1900
02:09:29,360 --> 02:09:32,840
Speaker 5: in front of us, uh to say, see if if

1901
02:09:32,880 --> 02:09:37,880
Speaker 5: you don't challenge us white folk, Uh, maybe you become

1902
02:09:38,120 --> 02:09:41,800
Speaker 5: like an opera or you know, a snoop or whatever. Uh,

1903
02:09:41,840 --> 02:09:45,440
Speaker 5: And we fall for that exchange. It's what I call

1904
02:09:45,480 --> 02:09:48,919
Speaker 5: a Faustian exchange. And sell me your soul and I'll

1905
02:09:48,960 --> 02:09:52,280
Speaker 5: give you. I'll throw you a few you know, materialistic

1906
02:09:52,360 --> 02:09:56,080
Speaker 5: crumbs your way. And it only works for a few people.

1907
02:09:56,560 --> 02:10:01,240
Speaker 5: But so you don't they don't really have any respect

1908
02:10:01,800 --> 02:10:06,440
Speaker 5: for these sellouts, for our sellouts, but they're willing to

1909
02:10:06,600 --> 02:10:14,120
Speaker 5: use them in order to play to secure their their privilege. Yeah,

1910
02:10:14,120 --> 02:10:18,720
Speaker 5: they're willing to give throw a few crumbs or a

1911
02:10:19,200 --> 02:10:23,200
Speaker 5: few crumbs from their table all to the floors so

1912
02:10:23,280 --> 02:10:27,080
Speaker 5: that folk like you know, the Minoges and this the

1913
02:10:27,360 --> 02:10:31,720
Speaker 5: snoop dogs. Ever, can you know scramble and fight over

1914
02:10:31,840 --> 02:10:35,600
Speaker 5: those crumbs. Uh, and the rest of us who will

1915
02:10:35,640 --> 02:10:43,000
Speaker 5: never have uh what they have given them, uh believe

1916
02:10:43,160 --> 02:10:49,680
Speaker 5: they fall into believing that if we do as they do, uh,

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Speaker 5: someday perhaps will be rich like them, which of course

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Speaker 5: is not ever going to be true by the way

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Speaker 5: white folk fall for the same skin. And if they

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Speaker 5: admire people like that, that that thief in chief in

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Speaker 5: the White House, that may be one day they'll be

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Speaker 5: rich like them. And that keeps us all in line.

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Speaker 11: Uh.

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Speaker 5: So we don't break up a system that has such

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Speaker 5: a disparities in wealth. Uh Uh, We don't ever want

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Speaker 5: to really challenge that because we hope one day will

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Speaker 5: be among the top dogs, so to speak, in this society.

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Speaker 5: But they don't have any respect for these cellouts, but

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Speaker 5: they're willing to use them in order to maintain their

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Speaker 5: system of privilege and wealth.

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Speaker 2: And doctor foxers, with that being said, you're saying that

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Speaker 2: if the impact is minimal on us as the people,

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Speaker 2: most of us don't fall for that, or do some

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Speaker 2: people who want to, And just to explain the support

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Speaker 2: some of the black community boats.

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, too many of us do you fall for that?

1937
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Speaker 5: And that's's why they keep them, you know, keep them

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Speaker 5: in there in their sort of uh, keep them on

1939
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Speaker 5: their team, because they do serve a very important function

1940
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Speaker 5: for this white supremacist U. Um you know a scheme, Uh,

1941
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Speaker 5: they don't. They want to keep the masses quiet so

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Speaker 5: that we don't rise up and overturn their system. And

1943
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Speaker 5: part of keeping the masses quiet is dangling a few

1944
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Speaker 5: crumbs in front of all of us, saying that if

1945
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Speaker 5: you just stay in line, maybe one day you'll have

1946
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Speaker 5: what we have. See what we've given to a few

1947
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Speaker 5: of you, like the snoops and whatever. So if you

1948
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Speaker 5: follow their need and lick our behinds and don't cause

1949
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Speaker 5: any trouble black folk. And that's not what they're thinking,

1950
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Speaker 5: and they're thinking the inward, maybe one day will select

1951
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Speaker 5: you uh to be uh, to have all these riches

1952
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Speaker 5: and and and creature companies. And because our mind is

1953
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Speaker 5: focused on the material and not the spiritual, we're really

1954
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Speaker 5: uh to go along with that trick, not knowing that

1955
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Speaker 5: the system is rigged, so to speak, so that only

1956
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Speaker 5: a few will uh. Well, well we'll have the opportunity

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Speaker 5: to luxuriate in all that materialism. Uh, But but we

1958
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Speaker 5: keep hope alive we keep it in the wrong hope alive,

1959
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Speaker 5: but we keep hope alive that will one day we'll

1960
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Speaker 5: be like them, and that they really should not even

1961
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Speaker 5: be our focus at all. We shouldn't be about having

1962
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Speaker 5: all of our people have a decent education, in a

1963
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Speaker 5: decent place to live, a livable salary, not the excesses

1964
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Speaker 5: that we see among them. They're all about excess and

1965
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Speaker 5: really monopoly controlling all the resources. We should be more

1966
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Speaker 5: about sharing and caring than monopolizing, but we fall into

1967
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Speaker 5: their monopolistic view of the world, and you know we're not.

1968
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Speaker 5: And as a result, we're not trying to overturn their sister.

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's all they care about.

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Speaker 2: Well, and that's it's twenty nine minutes away from tab

1971
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Speaker 2: of our family, and I guess it's Doctor Jeremy Fox

1972
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Speaker 2: has written a book. It's a best selling workbook. It's

1973
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Speaker 2: called Addicted to White You Oppressed and Legal to Pressure.

1974
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Speaker 2: Going to talk about the book later on, but doctor

1975
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Speaker 2: Fox is their biggest concern is that black people will

1976
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Speaker 2: somehow one day unify, not just here Stateside, but globally.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I could say yes to that, Yes, yes they are.

1978
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Speaker 5: When you're wrong. You know this from your own personal experience.

1979
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Speaker 5: Good because we've all been wrong at some point, particularly

1980
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Speaker 5: as children, and our basic fear is that, you know,

1981
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Speaker 5: maybe our parents might find that out and will be punished.

1982
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Speaker 5: So but that extends into our adult life as well.

1983
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Speaker 5: And I mentioned this in my book and when I

1984
02:15:38,120 --> 02:15:42,440
Speaker 5: talk about guilt, Guilt by its very na nature, it

1985
02:15:42,480 --> 02:15:47,600
Speaker 5: makes you fearful of future punishment so in order to

1986
02:15:48,320 --> 02:15:51,040
Speaker 5: you know, and you'll do anything to try to avoid

1987
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Speaker 5: that punishment, particularly if you're engaging in something that you

1988
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Speaker 5: want to continue to engage and even though you know

1989
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Speaker 5: it's wrong. So, yes, they are perpetually they don't realize

1990
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Speaker 5: by oppressing people, they a sentence themselves to a life

1991
02:16:12,640 --> 02:16:18,960
Speaker 5: of fear, the fear of retribution, and rather than the

1992
02:16:19,040 --> 02:16:23,240
Speaker 5: only way out of that is reparations, to stop doing,

1993
02:16:23,920 --> 02:16:28,840
Speaker 5: to stop your oppression of other people, uh, and restore

1994
02:16:29,640 --> 02:16:34,080
Speaker 5: what you have stolen. That's really the only way out

1995
02:16:34,200 --> 02:16:39,720
Speaker 5: of that fear, that that guilt ridden fear. But they

1996
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Speaker 5: choose to keep on oppressing, and they don't realize that

1997
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Speaker 5: they have sentenced themselves to a life time of of

1998
02:16:49,240 --> 02:16:54,080
Speaker 5: of of fear. So their perpetual fear is that one

1999
02:16:54,320 --> 02:17:00,280
Speaker 5: day the oppressed, unify, rise up and overthrow them. So yeah,

2000
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Speaker 5: so everything is designed. As I mentioned later on, you

2001
02:17:03,560 --> 02:17:06,600
Speaker 5: know how a fear works in the book, the whole

2002
02:17:06,760 --> 02:17:12,760
Speaker 5: societies are built are structured, shured around fear, and this

2003
02:17:12,840 --> 02:17:17,720
Speaker 5: particular society is and cultures even within that society are

2004
02:17:17,760 --> 02:17:22,520
Speaker 5: built then structured around fear. So this entire society is

2005
02:17:22,600 --> 02:17:28,240
Speaker 5: structured around fear. The fear that that that the people

2006
02:17:28,280 --> 02:17:32,640
Speaker 5: who control this society, the fear there that they have

2007
02:17:33,320 --> 02:17:36,880
Speaker 5: that one day the people that they are oppressing in

2008
02:17:37,000 --> 02:17:41,520
Speaker 5: order to maintain their position of privilege, who all rises

2009
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Speaker 5: up and overturn their system. So yes, uhuh. Tell a

2010
02:17:48,720 --> 02:17:53,959
Speaker 5: quick little story. When I was an undergraduate school, my

2011
02:17:54,160 --> 02:17:57,879
Speaker 5: physician at the time, I was in teens. Uh well,

2012
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Speaker 5: he used my position from any years, even during my teens,

2013
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Speaker 5: and I happened to go to a college that his

2014
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Speaker 5: daughter also attended. So I had an appointment on one

2015
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Speaker 5: of my semester breaks and he said, you know, I

2016
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Speaker 5: want to ask you something. He was white, of course, Uh,

2017
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Speaker 5: why do all the black students like sit together? And

2018
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Speaker 5: I said, well, because I can't ask you the same thing,

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Speaker 5: And why do all the white students there sit together? Now?

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Speaker 5: I went to Cornell, which had a very small at

2021
02:18:34,000 --> 02:18:38,879
Speaker 5: that time population of student population of black people. So

2022
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Speaker 5: of course we're going on together. We come from the

2023
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Speaker 5: same culture, and it's just natural for people who have

2024
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Speaker 5: something in common to affiliate with each other. And I said,

2025
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Speaker 5: it's no different than white folk affiliating with other white

2026
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Speaker 5: folk folk who come from the same type of culture.

2027
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Speaker 5: But I thought, so, I know why you people are

2028
02:19:07,680 --> 02:19:14,680
Speaker 5: so anxious, get so anxious when you see the black

2029
02:19:14,720 --> 02:19:22,640
Speaker 5: people together, because just instinctively, whether they're actually happening the

2030
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Speaker 5: conscious thought or not, but certainly instinctively they have in

2031
02:19:28,640 --> 02:19:33,440
Speaker 5: their mind black people together and you're seeing them physically

2032
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Speaker 5: together is a threat to us white folks. So it's

2033
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Speaker 5: very endemic to this culture.

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Speaker 2: To the Fox, what was more intriguing for them is

2035
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Speaker 2: that some brothers and sisters from Africa sat with us

2036
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Speaker 2: as well, so.

2037
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Speaker 5: Even a greater threat international unity exactly.

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Speaker 2: And they were like, why folks.

2039
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Speaker 5: Are always sitting together? But why the heck are you

2040
02:20:01,520 --> 02:20:06,279
Speaker 5: always sitting together white folk for the same reason.

2041
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Speaker 8: I remember he called that.

2042
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but listen, we ought to step aside for a films.

2043
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Speaker 2: You got to break the cut up. I got a

2044
02:20:11,040 --> 02:20:13,560
Speaker 2: tweet question from New Orleans for it from Louisiana. It's

2045
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Speaker 2: not in New Orleans, but he's from Louisiana. He says,

2046
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Speaker 2: good morning, a great show with doctor Fox. We'd like

2047
02:20:18,000 --> 02:20:20,920
Speaker 2: to ask doctor Fox, how does he analyze the speech

2048
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Speaker 2: by Vice President jd Vance concerning what he said about

2049
02:20:24,120 --> 02:20:27,960
Speaker 2: white folks don't have to apologize for being white? How

2050
02:20:28,000 --> 02:20:29,760
Speaker 2: would that be? How would you analyze that? And I

2051
02:20:29,879 --> 02:20:31,680
Speaker 2: let you do that when we get back. Family YouTube

2052
02:20:31,720 --> 02:20:34,240
Speaker 2: can join us on this conversation with doctor Jeromy Fox.

2053
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Speaker 2: All you have to do is just reach out to

2054
02:20:35,840 --> 02:20:38,879
Speaker 2: us eight hundred number, that's eight hundred four or five

2055
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Speaker 2: zero seventy eight seventy six. I'll take your phone calls.

2056
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Speaker 12: Next fourteen fifty wol.

2057
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Speaker 1: Now back to the Karl Nelson Show.

2058
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Speaker 2: It's nineteen minutes away from the top. There, I guess

2059
02:22:14,280 --> 02:22:17,640
Speaker 2: is a doctor Fox, Doctor Jeremy Fox, and is the

2060
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Speaker 2: author of the best selling work book Addicted to White,

2061
02:22:19,800 --> 02:22:22,160
Speaker 2: The Oppressed in League with the Oppressor. He's going to

2062
02:22:22,200 --> 02:22:25,199
Speaker 2: break down the five core white vantages. He says, many

2063
02:22:25,200 --> 02:22:27,600
Speaker 2: blacks are addicted to at some point, or all of

2064
02:22:27,680 --> 02:22:29,840
Speaker 2: us have been addicted to. But before we left the

2065
02:22:29,840 --> 02:22:32,120
Speaker 2: break I got a three questions here from Louisiana. My

2066
02:22:32,240 --> 02:22:36,240
Speaker 2: brother Leroy says, ask doctor Fox, how does he analyze

2067
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Speaker 2: the speech by Vice President JD. Vance concerning what he

2068
02:22:41,240 --> 02:22:44,600
Speaker 2: said an event white folks don't have to apologize for

2069
02:22:44,720 --> 02:22:46,600
Speaker 2: being white? How would he analyze that?

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Speaker 5: Okay, and before I respond to that, let me just

2071
02:22:50,560 --> 02:22:56,760
Speaker 5: make one last point about what I said just a

2072
02:22:56,800 --> 02:23:00,680
Speaker 5: minute ago on page seven of my work book, I

2073
02:23:00,800 --> 02:23:05,760
Speaker 5: mentioned the fact that we are all subject to the

2074
02:23:05,879 --> 02:23:16,199
Speaker 5: natural universal laws like pressure and the resistance that pressure creates,

2075
02:23:16,760 --> 02:23:20,880
Speaker 5: rise and fall together, and that you reap what you sew.

2076
02:23:21,240 --> 02:23:25,480
Speaker 5: So in part those universal laws, in part at least

2077
02:23:25,560 --> 02:23:29,760
Speaker 5: explain why I the you know, white folk are so

2078
02:23:30,120 --> 02:23:36,199
Speaker 5: anxious about black folks perhaps one day coming together and unifying.

2079
02:23:37,080 --> 02:23:42,320
Speaker 5: They've been applying pressure, and that pressure just automatically, whether

2080
02:23:42,520 --> 02:23:47,119
Speaker 5: you or I are they like it or not, automatically

2081
02:23:48,600 --> 02:23:56,600
Speaker 5: creates resistance. Okay, Now back to that idiot clown U JD.

2082
02:23:56,760 --> 02:24:00,760
Speaker 5: Vance of the phony here again. And we need to

2083
02:24:00,800 --> 02:24:05,160
Speaker 5: be a how can I say, protective of our time

2084
02:24:06,080 --> 02:24:11,440
Speaker 5: and our energy, including our mental energy. These people will

2085
02:24:11,480 --> 02:24:15,400
Speaker 5: throw a lot of nonsense in our face that we

2086
02:24:15,560 --> 02:24:18,920
Speaker 5: can just brush aside. We can decide to just brush

2087
02:24:18,920 --> 02:24:25,920
Speaker 5: aside or to confront, and too often they're throwing garbage

2088
02:24:26,240 --> 02:24:30,440
Speaker 5: that we should should should be just brushing aside. And

2089
02:24:30,520 --> 02:24:33,560
Speaker 5: here's a clear example. I did not hear that speech,

2090
02:24:33,600 --> 02:24:36,360
Speaker 5: but I'm not surprised that he said something like that,

2091
02:24:36,560 --> 02:24:44,200
Speaker 5: because of evil white folk are constantly saying basically the

2092
02:24:44,280 --> 02:24:47,680
Speaker 5: same thing. It's a trick. It's what you call a

2093
02:24:47,800 --> 02:24:53,600
Speaker 5: red herring or a distraction from what we ought to

2094
02:24:53,640 --> 02:25:00,520
Speaker 5: be saying and thinking about. Nobody ever said that white

2095
02:25:00,680 --> 02:25:04,600
Speaker 5: for need to apologize for being white. That doesn't even

2096
02:25:04,680 --> 02:25:07,840
Speaker 5: sound right that I mean, if you stop and think

2097
02:25:07,840 --> 02:25:12,920
Speaker 5: about it. Uh, you're apologizing for the lack of big

2098
02:25:12,959 --> 02:25:16,840
Speaker 5: meditation in your skin, in which you had nothing to

2099
02:25:16,879 --> 02:25:24,080
Speaker 5: do with. Uh. It's it's it just doesn't even register

2100
02:25:25,520 --> 02:25:31,119
Speaker 5: on the you know, on the rational scale. So why

2101
02:25:31,160 --> 02:25:34,320
Speaker 5: would it would a person who does have somewhat of

2102
02:25:34,360 --> 02:25:39,800
Speaker 5: a brain, He is not a total imbecile. Uh, why

2103
02:25:40,000 --> 02:25:44,760
Speaker 5: would he say something like that to distract you? Once again,

2104
02:25:45,000 --> 02:25:50,280
Speaker 5: it's a red hurry. It's not about apologizing for being white.

2105
02:25:51,040 --> 02:25:55,879
Speaker 5: It's correcting, apologizing and correct acting for what you have

2106
02:25:56,160 --> 02:26:02,080
Speaker 5: done around the world. Uh, for how how you've raped

2107
02:26:02,120 --> 02:26:08,360
Speaker 5: the resources of mother Africa for century and treated it's

2108
02:26:08,440 --> 02:26:12,800
Speaker 5: fruit that that's you and me like guard of it's

2109
02:26:12,800 --> 02:26:17,240
Speaker 5: like your h for for nothing but your uh uh

2110
02:26:17,480 --> 02:26:23,760
Speaker 5: support for your system of inequality and and and and greed.

2111
02:26:24,440 --> 02:26:28,959
Speaker 5: You know, it's you need to apologize white folk and

2112
02:26:28,959 --> 02:26:34,959
Speaker 5: and and and seek forgiveness and correct for what you

2113
02:26:35,080 --> 02:26:40,280
Speaker 5: have done, not for the color of your skin. I mean,

2114
02:26:40,320 --> 02:26:42,600
Speaker 5: it just doesn't even make sense. But they get to

2115
02:26:42,720 --> 02:26:49,680
Speaker 5: get us, you know, arguing on their terms. Uh, and

2116
02:26:49,680 --> 02:26:52,120
Speaker 5: and we fall forward every time. I think. I remember

2117
02:26:52,160 --> 02:26:57,520
Speaker 5: when I was treating some uh patients in in prison

2118
02:27:00,080 --> 02:27:02,640
Speaker 5: who are in concerration that I worked in the Federal

2119
02:27:02,640 --> 02:27:08,520
Speaker 5: prisonses and for a while, uh, somebody made some com

2120
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Speaker 5: after I believe Woods, that clown Tiger Woods, uh first

2121
02:27:16,720 --> 02:27:21,280
Speaker 5: Master's championship, I think, and uh the people in that

2122
02:27:21,400 --> 02:27:24,280
Speaker 5: club says something like, oh, well, I guess we have

2123
02:27:24,400 --> 02:27:32,160
Speaker 5: to start serving uh chiplin's or greens or something now,

2124
02:27:32,760 --> 02:27:38,439
Speaker 5: you know, now now that the black person has won, uh,

2125
02:27:38,520 --> 02:27:43,640
Speaker 5: you know, the championship. And so the uh our folks

2126
02:27:43,640 --> 02:27:50,560
Speaker 5: were and then later when the official was questioned about

2127
02:27:50,680 --> 02:27:53,840
Speaker 5: that comment, he said, oh, it was just a joke,

2128
02:27:54,720 --> 02:27:57,840
Speaker 5: and so then all the conversation in the black community,

2129
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Speaker 5: and I guess and in the society at large, was okay?

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Speaker 5: Was he joking or not? Was he joking? I said,

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Speaker 5: that's a red herring. They are structuring your your your conversation,

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Speaker 5: and they have captured your attention and are pointing appointing

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Speaker 5: your attention to something that really is nonsensical. It doesn't

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Speaker 5: matter whether it was a joke or not. This dispute

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Speaker 5: about being a joke is a red herring. The comment

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Speaker 5: with whether it was a joke or not was ethan racist,

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Speaker 5: period then and full stop. In a very similar way,

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Speaker 5: they take our attention and point it to something very

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Speaker 5: nonsensical or like, you know, a white folks don't have

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Speaker 5: to apologize for being white. That's never that has never

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Speaker 5: been the issue. The issue is that you need to

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Speaker 5: correct what you have done. Not uh. The focus is

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Speaker 5: not our complaint is not on your skin color, so

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Speaker 5: on what you have done?

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Speaker 3: Got it?

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Speaker 2: Eight hundred and four or five zero seventy eight seventy

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Speaker 2: six twelve minutes away from the top, le Levi's joined

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Speaker 2: us from Maryland's Online three Grand Rising, Levi your question

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Speaker 2: for doctor Fox now here in Levi Levi there Online

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Speaker 2: three okay, there you go tell them up. Jonny's ay.

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Speaker 6: Hell Levi, Hello, yes, you're on the s. Yeah question

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Speaker 6: for doctor Fox. Yeah yeah, doctor Fox. This is LEVI

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Speaker 6: have a question.

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Speaker 11: We hadn't well in our in our DNA in LG.

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Speaker 2: Have we lost him again? His line may have dropped

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Speaker 2: ten minutes away from the top there, LEVI called doctor Fox.

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Speaker 11: Doctor Fox, can you hear me?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? I can hear you now.

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Speaker 11: Oh good, you can hear him now? Yeah yeah, doctor Fox. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 11: I'm calling about Yeah, I did my homework about we

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Speaker 11: had a great Yeah, we have a zen and that.

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Speaker 2: H We're gonna have to drop Levi because you have

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Speaker 2: you have problem with his phone line and to keep

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Speaker 2: saying it kidding had a good life. Ten away from

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Speaker 2: the top there, LEVI call us back when you get

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Speaker 2: it together. Eight hundred and four five zero seventy eight

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Speaker 2: seventy six, Doctor Fox. So you mentioned in your book

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Speaker 2: you said there are five core white values. Before we

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Speaker 2: get it, you break down the five core white values

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Speaker 2: that many of us addicted to. Is it is it

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Speaker 2: true to say that not your these white cor values,

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Speaker 2: not just black people, but Hispanic Asians were all addicted

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Speaker 2: to these white Corvats.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right. Uh, the the white the white supremacist theology,

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Speaker 5: but certainly ideology, if not theology, has spread throughout the world.

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Speaker 5: And I constantly say this, not lonely was the Tarzan

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Speaker 5: movies conditioning our minds here in the United Snakes of America.

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Speaker 5: But those same movies and and the perspective on African

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Speaker 5: people that that they tried to portray was shown in

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Speaker 5: Africa itself. So our brothers and sisters across the world

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Speaker 5: or being exposed to that, that same derigatory perspective about

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Speaker 5: Africa all over the world. So they have exported their

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Speaker 5: evil once again universally quite frankly. So yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: And my question was this done deliberately or was this

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Speaker 2: sort of organic? When we use the Tarzan movie, for example,

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Speaker 2: did they know that we'll use this white guy in

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Speaker 2: a jungle and all the Africans are scared, or even

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Speaker 2: all the animals are scared and he's the king of

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Speaker 2: the jungle and all that nonsense when they created this movie.

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Speaker 2: My question is, doctor Fox, did they know the intentions

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Speaker 2: are it to sort of subjugate us as the people

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Speaker 2: and seeing that white folks are superior?

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Speaker 5: Was that part of it or well, I'm I'm sure

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Speaker 5: that starting out here here again, uh, the white oppressor

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Speaker 5: had been willing to use who's any tool that he

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Speaker 5: can and he and she in uh to maintain their

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Speaker 5: their position and in in in the world. So you know,

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Speaker 5: if if if you know, enslaving people will help them

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Speaker 5: maintain their economic uh position in the world, They're willing

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Speaker 5: to do that. And if if it is to justifyify

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Speaker 5: their abuse of a fellow human being, uh, if they

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Speaker 5: need to create myths about these people that that they

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Speaker 5: have and forced into labor, if they need to create

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Speaker 5: a myth about these people, they're willing to do that too,

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Speaker 5: in order to justify their evil and to placate anybody

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Speaker 5: who might protest against them. So uh, certainly, from the

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Speaker 5: very beginning, it was very intentional to promote and distribute

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Speaker 5: lies about the African people and and and our nature

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Speaker 5: and culture. Uh. But after a while, those kinds of

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Speaker 5: myths and lies gain a life of themselves, and every

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Speaker 5: and everybody and everything seems to fall in line. Particularly

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Speaker 5: if you have the authority over instruments, we should maybe

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Speaker 5: can call them instruments that promulgate your your your myths

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Speaker 5: like schools, movies, any instrument, instrument that is designed to

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Speaker 5: teach people, like movies, like schools, that that you have

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Speaker 5: control over, you're going to use in order to because

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Speaker 5: they call it propaganda, You're going to use to further

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Speaker 5: shore up your system of injustice. And certainly, as I

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Speaker 5: say in my books, we're in the very beginning that

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Speaker 5: movies have been uh for a while the new colonialists.

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Speaker 5: We think, like, you know, people being colonialists. And certainly

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Speaker 5: the Western nations have colonized uh black people, but in

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Speaker 5: truth so has their products, their uh creative products like

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Speaker 5: movies and and books, and and and other things. They

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Speaker 5: are like the the instruments of colonization. And everybody his

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Speaker 5: so called Hispanics, any anybody, all non whites, let's put

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Speaker 5: it that way, All non whites have been subjected to

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Speaker 5: their techniques to keep white folk in in business, so

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Speaker 5: to speak, in the business of white supremacy, oppression. All

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Speaker 5: these instruments have been used to maintain in their position.

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Speaker 5: And we've all been Any people of color, any non

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Speaker 5: white people, have been subjected to it.

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Speaker 2: All eight four or five zero seventy eight seventy six

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Speaker 2: Poules checking in from the UK's in London Town's online

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Speaker 2: one Grand Rising Paulie with doctor Fox.

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Speaker 22: Grund Rising Buba Quasi Grid rising to do to fault.

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Speaker 22: Thank you for keeping up the UH and for us

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Speaker 22: standing on guard and keeping this thing real on such

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Speaker 22: a day.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 22: I want to make a comment and hopefully I can

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Speaker 22: generate a question. Obviously based in England, born in England,

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Speaker 22: born in London, up in England, London. As I got older,

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Speaker 22: I'm able to you know, research and my overstanding of

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Speaker 22: what's going on in life. Now I've come to the

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Speaker 22: conclusion I don't know way you talk about it's a

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Speaker 22: reference to white supremacy. I think white supremacy is religion,

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Speaker 22: the Christian religion, and it emanates from the Bible. Majority

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Speaker 22: of it comes.

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Speaker 3: From the Bible.

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Speaker 22: This see you're calling white supremacy. Even the Quran, it's

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Speaker 22: all based on what you're calling white supremacy.

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Speaker 8: But for the sake of this argument, I'm going to call.

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Speaker 22: It white extremism because I think these people are extreme everything.

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Speaker 22: You're speaking English, but yet you're in America. To me,

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Speaker 22: that's extreme. I mean you're actually normally the fact that

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Speaker 22: you speak English, but yet you are in America.

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Speaker 8: I think that's.

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Speaker 23: Extreme, so ox you.

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Speaker 22: It's them of what extremism on the planet because it's everywhere?

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Speaker 22: Do we are we able to overcome it?

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Speaker 3: And what do we need to do?

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Speaker 22: Annihilated off the planet?

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Speaker 2: All right, I'll tell you what, Thanks Paul. We got

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Speaker 2: to take a short break here so our stations can

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Speaker 2: identify themselves down and we get back. I'll have Doctors

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Speaker 2: Parks respond to your question. Family, you two can join

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Speaker 2: our conversation with Doctor Fox is Thursday morning. Reach out

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Speaker 2: to us at eight hundred four five zero seventy eight

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Speaker 2: seventy six, and we'll take the court.

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Speaker 1: with the most submit.

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Speaker 2: Yourself Okay, grand Rising family, thanks for rolling with us

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Speaker 2: on this Thursday morning. You sunder twenty fifth those are

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Speaker 2: you celebrating Christmas? Merry Christmas to you. Our guess is

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Speaker 2: doctor Jeromi Fox. Many of you know him for his

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Speaker 2: best selling workbook Addicted to the Whites to be Oppressed

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Speaker 2: in Legal Depression. Part of the title I Love the

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Speaker 2: Most a sham based alliance And if you haven't got

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Speaker 2: that book, pick it up. It change They'll change your mind,

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Speaker 2: doctor Box. I hope you recall paul Is callings from

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Speaker 2: the UK from London is question.

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Speaker 5: Yes, there are two things I want to addresss that

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Speaker 5: he mentioned he was coming in and out, but I

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Speaker 5: think I heard most of what he had to say.

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Speaker 5: Let me just address this whole issue of religion religions

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Speaker 5: as I encourage in my book, for us to in

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Speaker 5: our meeting is to clear our heads of this white

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Speaker 5: value system. To avoid discussions of religion because they are

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Speaker 5: just fraud with you know, the angers, and that will

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Speaker 5: eventually divide us as a people. I encourage people a scripture.

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Speaker 5: Most scriptures have their origin and the ancient writings of

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Speaker 5: our people in Africa, particularly the committed early cultures. But

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Speaker 5: no matter and since the beginning of time, scriptures have

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Speaker 5: been and the religions organized around them have been misused

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Speaker 5: by people, and we need not be uh uh deceived

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Speaker 5: by that. I encourage people, no matter what religishion you

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Speaker 5: are part of, to seek out and try to extract

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Speaker 5: those principles uh that will lead us to liberation. There

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Speaker 5: are many scriptures that clearly uh instruct us how to

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Speaker 5: get out under this mess that we're in, and that

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Speaker 5: also addresses the second part of the other from London.

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Speaker 5: These scriptures can be used to and as we find

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Speaker 5: our way out of uh, you know, out of this oppression,

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Speaker 5: and scriptures can be quite useful in that regard, and

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Speaker 5: I mentioned some of them in my book at the

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Speaker 5: beginning of each chapter. These are scripturess that typical. They

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Speaker 5: are not emphasized by you know, ministers or ebons or whatever.

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Speaker 5: So therefore you cannot rely on the teachers your religion

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Speaker 5: and so to speak, or the teachers of the scriptures.

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Speaker 5: You have to search for yourself and discover these uh

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Speaker 5: gems of instruction for how to come out out from

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Speaker 5: under oppression. Now, dealing with the other part of the

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Speaker 5: brother's comment, we've all heard of the old saying how

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Speaker 5: do you or or riddle, I guess, how do you

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Speaker 5: eat an elephant? And the answer is one bite at

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Speaker 5: a time. Unfortunately, given the the long period of time

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Speaker 5: that we've been under the influence of these monsters, UH,

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Speaker 5: it's going to be a a a slog almost in

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Speaker 5: our attempt to uh uh you know, detoxify uh from

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Speaker 5: their nonsense, from their poisons.

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Speaker 11: UH.

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Speaker 5: So one by that time we begin with this is

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Speaker 5: the whole whole purpose of my book. We be again

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Speaker 5: and with detoxicifying our brains from their value system. That

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Speaker 5: is the essential first that we will never be able

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Speaker 5: to experience any kind of real massive uh um uh liberation,

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Speaker 5: material liberation, uh until we have a first deal with

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Speaker 5: this invisible element, which is our addiction to a value

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Speaker 5: system that only involves us in our own oppression. So

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Speaker 5: that's the first step, and that's the thing that I

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Speaker 5: have concentrated on any and writing this uh work book.

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02:46:10,080 --> 02:46:14,280
Speaker 5: We have seen time and time again and our our

2343
02:46:14,600 --> 02:46:23,400
Speaker 5: efforts to battle our enemies UH somehow flounder. Even and

2344
02:46:23,440 --> 02:46:30,080
Speaker 5: even after we've had minimum minimal success and one you know,

2345
02:46:30,480 --> 02:46:35,800
Speaker 5: battle after another, we wed because it's these people are

2346
02:46:35,879 --> 02:46:40,800
Speaker 5: still in control. Uh. We tend to fall back. So

2347
02:46:41,200 --> 02:46:45,039
Speaker 5: there's really only one way I believe is that we

2348
02:46:45,280 --> 02:46:53,120
Speaker 5: will be uh led to really see more clearly what

2349
02:46:53,160 --> 02:46:56,920
Speaker 5: we could do and in order to almost to overcome

2350
02:46:57,080 --> 02:47:04,440
Speaker 5: our circumstances almost instantly. But it's almost as scales have

2351
02:47:04,520 --> 02:47:08,480
Speaker 5: been put over our eyes, and those scales are our

2352
02:47:08,600 --> 02:47:15,679
Speaker 5: willingness and our support of a white world view predicated

2353
02:47:16,000 --> 02:47:21,320
Speaker 5: on values that do nothing but impificate us in our

2354
02:47:21,360 --> 02:47:27,400
Speaker 5: own oppression. So our first step is to detoxify from

2355
02:47:27,440 --> 02:47:32,600
Speaker 5: this white value system. Otherwise we will ever see what

2356
02:47:32,680 --> 02:47:37,160
Speaker 5: we could see, and we will never come together. And

2357
02:47:37,240 --> 02:47:41,480
Speaker 5: the way that that we we must come together if

2358
02:47:42,600 --> 02:47:48,560
Speaker 5: we are ever to overcome our present circumstances, it begins

2359
02:47:48,600 --> 02:47:51,960
Speaker 5: with the mind, not any kind of project, not in

2360
02:47:52,040 --> 02:47:56,800
Speaker 5: any kind of march or whatever. I'm not saying. I'm

2361
02:47:56,840 --> 02:48:00,680
Speaker 5: saying that those things have to cease. But our emphasis

2362
02:48:01,240 --> 02:48:06,160
Speaker 5: has to be on getting our head in the right space.

2363
02:48:07,400 --> 02:48:11,280
Speaker 5: And I guarantee you if we do that first, we

2364
02:48:12,280 --> 02:48:18,720
Speaker 5: will be a non stop no one will be able

2365
02:48:18,800 --> 02:48:27,560
Speaker 5: to step up our movement toward complete on total liberation.

2366
02:48:28,680 --> 02:48:31,280
Speaker 5: But once again, it begins with our mind.

2367
02:48:32,200 --> 02:48:33,800
Speaker 2: A bunch of folks want to talk to you, doctor,

2368
02:48:33,840 --> 02:48:35,840
Speaker 2: Fox ten after the top of our family. You can

2369
02:48:35,879 --> 02:48:39,000
Speaker 2: reach us at eight hundred four five zero seventy eight

2370
02:48:39,200 --> 02:48:42,119
Speaker 2: seventy six. Levi's online three. Let's try them again. Calling

2371
02:48:42,160 --> 02:48:50,240
Speaker 2: from Maryland. Levi your question for doctor Fox. Levi, you

2372
02:48:50,240 --> 02:48:52,160
Speaker 2: can't listen to the radar because around the time to

2373
02:48:52,280 --> 02:48:53,800
Speaker 2: delay here, so I want to put you on holds

2374
02:48:53,800 --> 02:48:56,240
Speaker 2: and come to you. Just listen on the telephone. Let's

2375
02:48:56,240 --> 02:49:00,000
Speaker 2: go to line four. Tyrone's also in Maryland, Grand Rising, Tyrone,

2376
02:49:00,320 --> 02:49:01,920
Speaker 2: your question for doctor Fox.

2377
02:49:03,440 --> 02:49:09,680
Speaker 24: Grand Rising, Brother Quacy, and Brother Fox. I can't say, Murray,

2378
02:49:10,760 --> 02:49:14,759
Speaker 24: happy corns of Christmas because you can't serve two masters.

2379
02:49:15,720 --> 02:49:17,720
Speaker 24: What I want to say, Brother, I want to ask

2380
02:49:17,760 --> 02:49:22,080
Speaker 24: this question, and it's been the question has been asked

2381
02:49:22,800 --> 02:49:25,359
Speaker 24: over and over again, so we got to be consistent

2382
02:49:25,920 --> 02:49:32,879
Speaker 24: with the tensions rising in Venzeuela. Should black people join

2383
02:49:33,160 --> 02:49:34,599
Speaker 24: the US military?

2384
02:49:35,000 --> 02:49:36,039
Speaker 25: That's the first question.

2385
02:49:37,080 --> 02:49:40,119
Speaker 24: My second question is what do you think is going

2386
02:49:40,200 --> 02:49:44,800
Speaker 24: to happen this time around with the government shut down?

2387
02:49:45,360 --> 02:49:48,160
Speaker 24: I misquoted before and said it was going to be

2388
02:49:48,160 --> 02:49:51,600
Speaker 24: on the thirtieth of January, and no one correct me.

2389
02:49:51,959 --> 02:49:55,120
Speaker 24: But I found out it is the fifteenth of January

2390
02:49:55,200 --> 02:49:58,760
Speaker 24: even closer. What do you think is going to happen

2391
02:49:59,200 --> 02:50:01,480
Speaker 24: when we've been try again, it's been all of our

2392
02:50:01,520 --> 02:50:05,320
Speaker 24: money for this holiday, and now the government will be

2393
02:50:05,360 --> 02:50:10,240
Speaker 24: going into lockdown, shutdown mode on the fifteenth. The military

2394
02:50:10,320 --> 02:50:12,800
Speaker 24: question first, and the other one second.

2395
02:50:13,120 --> 02:50:13,760
Speaker 25: Thank you sir.

2396
02:50:14,440 --> 02:50:22,240
Speaker 5: Yes, well here again. And we're in in any in

2397
02:50:22,320 --> 02:50:29,680
Speaker 5: many ways where we experience a conundrum. Uh, you're kind

2398
02:50:29,720 --> 02:50:32,920
Speaker 5: of like, you know, damn dish you do and damn

2399
02:50:33,000 --> 02:50:39,640
Speaker 5: this you don't. But even even in those having to

2400
02:50:39,720 --> 02:50:45,080
Speaker 5: make tough decisions, if our minds were in the proper place,

2401
02:50:45,600 --> 02:50:52,279
Speaker 5: we would be able to come up with the best solution. Clearly,

2402
02:50:53,080 --> 02:50:59,640
Speaker 5: we don't want to be involve and supporting and our

2403
02:51:00,160 --> 02:51:08,040
Speaker 5: means effort to spread more oppression, to gain more resourcess

2404
02:51:08,080 --> 02:51:11,840
Speaker 5: in their greed, because this so Venezuelan thing is about

2405
02:51:12,400 --> 02:51:16,680
Speaker 5: their oil reserves. So we don't want to be in

2406
02:51:16,720 --> 02:51:23,920
Speaker 5: a position to theoretically to support anything that our presses

2407
02:51:24,000 --> 02:51:29,600
Speaker 5: are doing to continue their oppression of people. Yet, on

2408
02:51:29,640 --> 02:51:32,640
Speaker 5: the other hand, and here's the conundrum, and I mentioned

2409
02:51:32,640 --> 02:51:35,720
Speaker 5: this I think the last time I was on the air.

2410
02:51:36,040 --> 02:51:40,240
Speaker 5: I've been a strong advocate for most of my adult

2411
02:51:40,320 --> 02:51:46,720
Speaker 5: life against you know, black people being involved with the

2412
02:51:46,800 --> 02:51:52,039
Speaker 5: military uh uh, fighting for a system that doesn't even

2413
02:51:52,120 --> 02:51:56,960
Speaker 5: respect us. However, I've had to see the value, the

2414
02:51:57,760 --> 02:52:02,800
Speaker 5: potential value, it may not actually be there yet, but

2415
02:52:02,959 --> 02:52:10,760
Speaker 5: the potential value of us in infiltrating our enemy, our

2416
02:52:11,040 --> 02:52:14,600
Speaker 5: enemies camp, so to speak. So this government is is

2417
02:52:15,280 --> 02:52:20,280
Speaker 5: an enemy camp. It has been so uh since it

2418
02:52:20,480 --> 02:52:26,160
Speaker 5: dragged us from our mother continent over here. But if

2419
02:52:26,200 --> 02:52:29,760
Speaker 5: you're going to fight a war of war effectively, you

2420
02:52:29,879 --> 02:52:33,680
Speaker 5: need spies in the enemy camp, or certainly you can

2421
02:52:33,879 --> 02:52:38,320
Speaker 5: use benefits from having spies in the enemy camp. And

2422
02:52:38,360 --> 02:52:50,240
Speaker 5: as I thought about this president uh uh president, how

2423
02:52:50,320 --> 02:52:58,600
Speaker 5: he might be willing to uh send military forces in

2424
02:52:58,640 --> 02:53:03,480
Speaker 5: our communities and our miss to take over our communities,

2425
02:53:03,760 --> 02:53:09,240
Speaker 5: I thought, wouldn't it be wise to have sort of

2426
02:53:09,320 --> 02:53:15,360
Speaker 5: spies in the enemy camp in the military to prevent

2427
02:53:15,600 --> 02:53:22,600
Speaker 5: them from doing whatever they you know they they plan

2428
02:53:23,000 --> 02:53:28,039
Speaker 5: to do to black people. We need some people to

2429
02:53:28,040 --> 02:53:34,080
Speaker 5: be right there to stop that from happening. So but

2430
02:53:34,200 --> 02:53:39,440
Speaker 5: here again, we would be in a better position two

2431
02:53:41,000 --> 02:53:46,600
Speaker 5: send people that we know have the right mindset into

2432
02:53:46,680 --> 02:53:47,560
Speaker 5: the enemy camp.

2433
02:53:49,480 --> 02:53:49,640
Speaker 11: Uh.

2434
02:53:49,680 --> 02:53:53,080
Speaker 5: They may have to do some things while while our

2435
02:53:53,200 --> 02:53:57,400
Speaker 5: being there that we may not like, or they may

2436
02:53:57,440 --> 02:54:01,280
Speaker 5: not like but we need to have some kind of

2437
02:54:01,879 --> 02:54:07,160
Speaker 5: in an organized way, uh, people in every corner of

2438
02:54:07,320 --> 02:54:16,840
Speaker 5: this wicked society to potentially protect us, uh, you know,

2439
02:54:17,000 --> 02:54:20,320
Speaker 5: when needed. Uh So it's a difficult kind of thing

2440
02:54:21,440 --> 02:54:28,000
Speaker 5: to navigate. But would it would be easier if we

2441
02:54:28,000 --> 02:54:31,760
Speaker 5: were doing this in a collective way, in a very thoughtful,

2442
02:54:32,240 --> 02:54:37,600
Speaker 5: organized collective way, which we're not doing unfortunately. Uh So

2443
02:54:37,760 --> 02:54:40,640
Speaker 5: many of the people that that black food, that are

2444
02:54:40,840 --> 02:54:45,920
Speaker 5: in the army, we can can Can we really trust

2445
02:54:46,040 --> 02:54:51,320
Speaker 5: them to protect us if the army should come against

2446
02:54:51,360 --> 02:54:56,400
Speaker 5: black communities? I don't know, but if we had put

2447
02:54:56,440 --> 02:55:02,160
Speaker 5: them there with uh, with that mission in mind, we

2448
02:55:02,160 --> 02:55:05,920
Speaker 5: could feel more secure about that. But it's a difficult

2449
02:55:05,959 --> 02:55:08,320
Speaker 5: question in my view.

2450
02:55:09,280 --> 02:55:10,680
Speaker 11: Yeah, it was the second part.

2451
02:55:10,760 --> 02:55:12,640
Speaker 5: Was there a second part to that? I'm forgetting.

2452
02:55:14,200 --> 02:55:18,959
Speaker 2: I'm forgetting. I think you addressed the second part first. Okay,

2453
02:55:19,400 --> 02:55:22,840
Speaker 2: if we didn't, you know, just call us back and

2454
02:55:23,600 --> 02:55:25,800
Speaker 2: Tyrowe in Maryland. But here we'll come up on a break,

2455
02:55:26,120 --> 02:55:28,960
Speaker 2: doctor Fox. And I think if you're addressing that eight

2456
02:55:29,080 --> 02:55:31,720
Speaker 2: hundred four or five zero seventy eight seven sixth got

2457
02:55:31,720 --> 02:55:33,240
Speaker 2: a bunch of folks still want to talk to you.

2458
02:55:33,640 --> 02:55:33,760
Speaker 17: Uh.

2459
02:55:34,400 --> 02:55:37,200
Speaker 2: Well, let's take a break, Jenny said, say the break

2460
02:55:37,360 --> 02:55:39,520
Speaker 2: and we come back. We'll speak with LEVI. Get you ready,

2461
02:55:39,879 --> 02:55:42,880
Speaker 2: radio ready, because there's a delacious and you can't listen

2462
02:55:42,879 --> 02:55:44,680
Speaker 2: to the radio. I listened through the telephone. That's for

2463
02:55:44,720 --> 02:55:47,800
Speaker 2: everybody else too. In radio. There's a delacious and so

2464
02:55:48,040 --> 02:55:49,520
Speaker 2: just in case one of you guys say is something

2465
02:55:49,560 --> 02:55:52,560
Speaker 2: that's inappropriate, we could catch it before it goes on here.

2466
02:55:52,600 --> 02:55:55,320
Speaker 2: And that's all that's for. Eight hundred four five zero

2467
02:55:55,480 --> 02:55:57,880
Speaker 2: seventy eight seventy six. We take a short day. We'll

2468
02:55:57,920 --> 02:56:00,039
Speaker 2: come back with MORTI phone calls to doctor Fox.

2469
02:56:50,040 --> 02:56:52,200
Speaker 12: Fourteen fifty w o L.

2470
02:56:58,920 --> 02:57:41,480
Speaker 10: Now back to the car Rarl Nelson Show.

2471
02:57:23,200 --> 02:57:25,680
Speaker 2: Rising family, Thanks for sticking with us on this twenty

2472
02:57:25,680 --> 02:57:28,480
Speaker 2: fifth day of December twenty twenty five, Christmas Day for some,

2473
02:57:29,120 --> 02:57:31,280
Speaker 2: and as we move on to the end of the year.

2474
02:57:31,320 --> 02:57:33,640
Speaker 2: Tomorrow actually is going to be the last Friday in

2475
02:57:33,720 --> 02:57:35,440
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five and give you a chance to join

2476
02:57:35,520 --> 02:57:37,760
Speaker 2: us or our open phone Friday program. I guess this

2477
02:57:37,920 --> 02:57:40,840
Speaker 2: doctor Jeromi Fox. He's a clinical psychologists written a best

2478
02:57:40,840 --> 02:57:44,160
Speaker 2: selling workbook Addicted to White The Oppressed in League with

2479
02:57:44,240 --> 02:57:47,080
Speaker 2: the Oppressor, a shame based alliance. Let's try Levi in

2480
02:57:47,160 --> 02:57:50,680
Speaker 2: line three again, I think Levi's in Baltimore, Maryland, Grand

2481
02:57:50,760 --> 02:57:52,959
Speaker 2: Rise in Levin with doctor Foxy.

2482
02:57:53,800 --> 02:57:57,720
Speaker 11: Yeah, doctor fox Levi from Baltimore. I did my research

2483
02:57:57,800 --> 02:58:00,800
Speaker 11: and I found out that Africans we have a gene

2484
02:58:00,840 --> 02:58:05,280
Speaker 11: in our body that can make Albano's Albano's. If we

2485
02:58:05,440 --> 02:58:09,840
Speaker 11: had one old all over the world and made these albinos,

2486
02:58:09,879 --> 02:58:12,040
Speaker 11: we wouldn't have the problems that we were having. So

2487
02:58:12,080 --> 02:58:14,039
Speaker 11: I'm hoping that we can put the genie back in

2488
02:58:14,040 --> 02:58:16,240
Speaker 11: the box, because I know we come out and live

2489
02:58:16,280 --> 02:58:19,240
Speaker 11: in color, but I think that's where we having problems

2490
02:58:19,280 --> 02:58:25,240
Speaker 11: with these Albanos in Europeans because they was made from

2491
02:58:25,240 --> 02:58:27,600
Speaker 11: al gene. I can't think of the name of the gene,

2492
02:58:27,680 --> 02:58:31,000
Speaker 11: but there's a gene in our bodies that would met

2493
02:58:31,560 --> 02:58:35,600
Speaker 11: these Europeans and that's how they acting the way they are.

2494
02:58:36,400 --> 02:58:38,320
Speaker 11: But again, if we can put the genie back in

2495
02:58:38,320 --> 02:58:40,360
Speaker 11: the box, I think we'll see a big difference.

2496
02:58:42,040 --> 02:58:46,280
Speaker 2: There's give much chance for Thanks Levi about the Fox, well.

2497
02:58:46,280 --> 02:58:49,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know exactly where he's going with at

2498
02:58:49,200 --> 02:58:55,240
Speaker 5: but certainly the theory, well the fact number one and

2499
02:58:55,320 --> 02:59:00,280
Speaker 5: that you know we had seen albino people and are

2500
02:59:00,480 --> 02:59:06,879
Speaker 5: a miss produced by black parents. It's it's controversy over this,

2501
02:59:07,120 --> 02:59:11,040
Speaker 5: but at least at one point in time, is considered

2502
02:59:11,160 --> 02:59:17,240
Speaker 5: a recessive gene that we and the theory has been

2503
02:59:17,640 --> 02:59:23,760
Speaker 5: that we obviously all people come from Africa. The origin

2504
02:59:24,040 --> 02:59:28,640
Speaker 5: of the human race is based in in in Africa,

2505
02:59:28,760 --> 02:59:34,080
Speaker 5: and that because we have the capacity to to produce

2506
02:59:34,879 --> 02:59:45,040
Speaker 5: uh people with uh little melanin in their skin, that

2507
02:59:45,959 --> 02:59:49,560
Speaker 5: obviously we were the fathers are so called white people

2508
02:59:52,879 --> 02:59:56,440
Speaker 5: that you know, it was pretty much known. I'm not

2509
02:59:56,480 --> 03:00:00,280
Speaker 5: sure where he's going with the idea of put the

2510
03:00:00,400 --> 03:00:05,000
Speaker 5: genie back in the bottle. I don't quite understand that, but.

2511
03:00:08,000 --> 03:00:09,800
Speaker 2: I don't get it either. But we're gonna move on,

2512
03:00:09,879 --> 03:00:11,880
Speaker 2: Doctor Fosher. Let the Norst folks want to talk to you.

2513
03:00:12,080 --> 03:00:14,680
Speaker 2: Twenty three after the top the are Eric's joining us

2514
03:00:14,680 --> 03:00:17,640
Speaker 2: from Forestville and Maryland. He's online. One grand rising Eric,

2515
03:00:17,720 --> 03:00:21,080
Speaker 2: a question for doctor Fox Gland rising to.

2516
03:00:21,120 --> 03:00:23,120
Speaker 26: You, mister Nelson, thank you for taking my call, and

2517
03:00:23,200 --> 03:00:27,760
Speaker 26: grand rising to doctor Fox. Uh, doctor Fox. You know

2518
03:00:27,879 --> 03:00:30,520
Speaker 26: back in sixty seven, sixty eight, there was a corner

2519
03:00:30,840 --> 03:00:33,920
Speaker 26: all the corner report there was one black and one

2520
03:00:34,000 --> 03:00:38,440
Speaker 26: white America. We fast forward fifty some years later. And

2521
03:00:39,120 --> 03:00:43,520
Speaker 26: my question is I think that we got two Black

2522
03:00:43,560 --> 03:00:47,960
Speaker 26: Americas within one the way things are going. Uh, we

2523
03:00:48,080 --> 03:00:53,240
Speaker 26: got individuals that I connike it, the Nodge and the

2524
03:00:53,360 --> 03:00:57,640
Speaker 26: snoop dogs and the ones the other ones have continued

2525
03:00:57,680 --> 03:01:00,480
Speaker 26: to sell us out for a future choice coin. My

2526
03:01:00,600 --> 03:01:04,560
Speaker 26: question to you, do you think that this new new

2527
03:01:04,680 --> 03:01:07,760
Speaker 26: I mean a second Black America has a has a

2528
03:01:07,840 --> 03:01:11,400
Speaker 26: road those that stand by and watch, uh these things

2529
03:01:11,400 --> 03:01:14,840
Speaker 26: happen and act like it doesn't happen, and and so forth,

2530
03:01:14,879 --> 03:01:18,440
Speaker 26: and then the guest speakers that mister Nelson continues to

2531
03:01:18,480 --> 03:01:20,680
Speaker 26: put on his show to make us wake up and

2532
03:01:20,720 --> 03:01:23,680
Speaker 26: say it there's something wrong in Black America.

2533
03:01:23,760 --> 03:01:24,600
Speaker 11: So that's my question.

2534
03:01:24,680 --> 03:01:26,680
Speaker 27: Do you think it's two Black America in one?

2535
03:01:27,879 --> 03:01:30,600
Speaker 5: Well, I don't know if I would put it quite

2536
03:01:30,640 --> 03:01:35,000
Speaker 5: that way, but I would say that we've always had

2537
03:01:35,760 --> 03:01:44,320
Speaker 5: traders among us. That's why the insurrections by you know,

2538
03:01:44,480 --> 03:01:52,040
Speaker 5: Nat Turned Denmark vs. Gabriel Prosser and others were not successful.

2539
03:01:52,600 --> 03:01:58,560
Speaker 5: They were all betrayed by someone in their myths. So

2540
03:01:58,959 --> 03:02:03,560
Speaker 5: I mean that's always been the case. Human nature is

2541
03:02:03,640 --> 03:02:10,600
Speaker 5: such that people will find it difficult to sacrifice for

2542
03:02:10,760 --> 03:02:15,840
Speaker 5: other people. Most people look at so called number one

2543
03:02:16,000 --> 03:02:21,400
Speaker 5: that being themselves, and not enough of people are are

2544
03:02:21,440 --> 03:02:27,560
Speaker 5: able to put that aside and think more highly of

2545
03:02:28,280 --> 03:02:32,840
Speaker 5: the of the group than of themselves. So that's been

2546
03:02:33,400 --> 03:02:40,119
Speaker 5: in the perennial struggle or among any people, and certainly

2547
03:02:40,280 --> 03:02:47,359
Speaker 5: in the Black people have had uh our issues with that,

2548
03:02:47,520 --> 03:02:52,440
Speaker 5: with that very same struggle people among us who think

2549
03:02:52,760 --> 03:02:58,320
Speaker 5: more of themselves than the group and are willing to

2550
03:02:58,440 --> 03:03:03,880
Speaker 5: portray the group and in order to they think u

2551
03:03:04,040 --> 03:03:09,920
Speaker 5: uh benefit themselves. In fact, one of the white values

2552
03:03:10,360 --> 03:03:17,960
Speaker 5: value number four uh addresses that problem that we've always had.

2553
03:03:18,000 --> 03:03:25,000
Speaker 5: There's nothing new. You know, individualism is better than collectivism.

2554
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Speaker 5: So we have to convince our people fortunately to come

2555
03:03:29,760 --> 03:03:34,360
Speaker 5: together and to stick together through thick and thin in

2556
03:03:34,480 --> 03:03:39,640
Speaker 5: order to accumplish anything. And as I said, I mean

2557
03:03:39,680 --> 03:03:44,240
Speaker 5: that's always been an issue. You can divide any group

2558
03:03:44,320 --> 03:03:49,600
Speaker 5: in terms of those who are willing to sacrifice for

2559
03:03:49,720 --> 03:03:54,080
Speaker 5: others and those who are not willing to do so

2560
03:03:54,440 --> 03:04:01,840
Speaker 5: and just just go all aggressively for or out aggressively

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03:04:01,920 --> 03:04:08,560
Speaker 5: for themselves. That's not a new issue. And then let

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03:04:08,600 --> 03:04:13,879
Speaker 5: me just add this that uh, we're we're we're trying

2563
03:04:13,879 --> 03:04:18,320
Speaker 5: to gather a critical mass. Uh we don't need every

2564
03:04:18,520 --> 03:04:22,640
Speaker 5: black person and to be on our side. We just

2565
03:04:22,760 --> 03:04:27,360
Speaker 5: need a critical mass and apparently we haven't gathered that

2566
03:04:27,480 --> 03:04:30,800
Speaker 5: critical mass yet in order to move forward.

2567
03:04:31,840 --> 03:04:33,200
Speaker 2: But that's all working on it.

2568
03:04:33,480 --> 03:04:34,800
Speaker 11: Yeah, we're working on it.

2569
03:04:34,959 --> 03:04:36,440
Speaker 5: That's right. That's right.

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Speaker 2: Brother Gregor's chicking in Doctor Fox's online five. He's calling

2571
03:04:39,760 --> 03:04:42,840
Speaker 2: from North Carolina. Grand Rising Brother Gregory. Your question for

2572
03:04:42,920 --> 03:04:43,600
Speaker 2: Doctor Fox.

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03:04:44,720 --> 03:04:47,840
Speaker 27: Yes, Grand Rising Brother called grind Rising Doctor Fox and

2574
03:04:47,879 --> 03:04:48,680
Speaker 27: Happy Kwanza.

2575
03:04:49,520 --> 03:04:49,800
Speaker 22: Uh.

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03:04:49,879 --> 03:04:50,080
Speaker 3: Yes.

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03:04:50,120 --> 03:04:52,920
Speaker 27: Earlier this year, had a chance to talk with some

2578
03:04:53,000 --> 03:04:56,520
Speaker 27: of the other guest professors, doctor Horn, doctor wind Bush,

2579
03:04:57,120 --> 03:05:00,520
Speaker 27: doctor Abdullah. They kind of focus on politics in law,

2580
03:05:01,160 --> 03:05:04,320
Speaker 27: but I thought would be sort of important to talk

2581
03:05:04,360 --> 03:05:08,040
Speaker 27: to a psychologist such as yourself and get a psychological

2582
03:05:08,280 --> 03:05:12,800
Speaker 27: viewpoint from you, Doctor Fox about this issue, the US

2583
03:05:12,879 --> 03:05:17,480
Speaker 27: Supreme Court review of birthright citizenship and what's going to

2584
03:05:17,480 --> 03:05:22,760
Speaker 27: be happening in twenty twenty six, Doctor Fox. Is in April,

2585
03:05:23,080 --> 03:05:25,800
Speaker 27: the Supreme Court is going to hear the arguments regarding

2586
03:05:25,879 --> 03:05:29,760
Speaker 27: birthright citizenship and then in July of twenty twenty six,

2587
03:05:30,320 --> 03:05:33,560
Speaker 27: they're going to make a final decision and could possibly

2588
03:05:33,600 --> 03:05:38,240
Speaker 27: redefine birthright citizenship in the United States. And my main

2589
03:05:38,280 --> 03:05:44,200
Speaker 27: point doctor Fox, is this over thirty million people black

2590
03:05:44,280 --> 03:05:49,960
Speaker 27: people have birthright citizenship and this decision could affect all

2591
03:05:50,040 --> 03:05:53,760
Speaker 27: of us in July twenty twenty six. So what do

2592
03:05:53,879 --> 03:05:58,480
Speaker 27: you see as a psychologist who wrote the book Adiga

2593
03:05:58,640 --> 03:06:03,720
Speaker 27: to White a true motivation for white society and the

2594
03:06:03,760 --> 03:06:09,440
Speaker 27: Supreme Court to review and possibly redefine who is a

2595
03:06:09,560 --> 03:06:13,040
Speaker 27: citizen of the United States in July twenty twenty six,

2596
03:06:13,480 --> 03:06:16,360
Speaker 27: And what is a solution for black people if they

2597
03:06:16,400 --> 03:06:19,880
Speaker 27: do so.

2598
03:06:18,680 --> 03:06:21,480
Speaker 5: Well, it's the same thing over and over and over again.

2599
03:06:21,560 --> 03:06:24,480
Speaker 5: And as I just say, they are willing to do

2600
03:06:24,879 --> 03:06:35,560
Speaker 5: anything to shape shift associated with this one for a

2601
03:06:35,600 --> 03:06:38,720
Speaker 5: certain amount of time and then the other one for

2602
03:06:38,840 --> 03:06:43,360
Speaker 5: another amount of time in order to maintain their system

2603
03:06:44,040 --> 03:06:52,480
Speaker 5: of unfair privilege and domination and monopoly of the resources

2604
03:06:52,520 --> 03:06:59,560
Speaker 5: of this world. So whatever they do can be analyzed

2605
03:06:59,600 --> 03:07:04,760
Speaker 5: in those terms narcissism, greed, and violence. They're willing to

2606
03:07:04,800 --> 03:07:11,680
Speaker 5: commit violence, both social and military violence, in order to

2607
03:07:12,000 --> 03:07:20,080
Speaker 5: maintain their greed, uh maintain themselves and their greed and privilege.

2608
03:07:20,480 --> 03:07:27,160
Speaker 5: So it really always basically boils down to that and

2609
03:07:27,280 --> 03:07:32,160
Speaker 5: leaving us with the question of how far are we willing?

2610
03:07:33,320 --> 03:07:37,920
Speaker 5: How long are we willing to cooperate with that nonsense. Uh.

2611
03:07:37,959 --> 03:07:43,400
Speaker 5: This birthright, at least it starts out meaning that any.

2612
03:07:44,680 --> 03:07:44,840
Speaker 3: Uh.

2613
03:07:45,040 --> 03:07:49,760
Speaker 5: The law currently states that if you were born here,

2614
03:07:49,959 --> 03:07:53,879
Speaker 5: even though your parents perhaps were not born here, uh,

2615
03:07:54,600 --> 03:08:00,360
Speaker 5: you have the full right of citizenship. And what is

2616
03:08:00,560 --> 03:08:04,080
Speaker 5: trying to establish now is that, well, maybe those people

2617
03:08:04,400 --> 03:08:08,760
Speaker 5: whose parents were not born here and only came here

2618
03:08:08,879 --> 03:08:13,720
Speaker 5: to drop a baby in order to make that maybe

2619
03:08:13,840 --> 03:08:20,000
Speaker 5: a citizen and hopefully benefit from whatever they think this

2620
03:08:20,120 --> 03:08:25,800
Speaker 5: society has to offer. That he's trying to stop that initially,

2621
03:08:25,840 --> 03:08:30,320
Speaker 5: but you're right, it could extend to really any anybody,

2622
03:08:31,000 --> 03:08:38,720
Speaker 5: uh eventually. But you know, we can't. Uh. We can

2623
03:08:38,800 --> 03:08:43,840
Speaker 5: only do the things that are within our power to do.

2624
03:08:44,520 --> 03:08:48,640
Speaker 5: And and I'm and I always fall back to that,

2625
03:08:48,840 --> 03:08:54,320
Speaker 5: this same issue that until we get our minds out

2626
03:08:54,480 --> 03:09:00,840
Speaker 5: of this system, until we be tooxified from their worldview

2627
03:09:01,560 --> 03:09:06,440
Speaker 5: and their value system, we will will never first see

2628
03:09:06,800 --> 03:09:11,520
Speaker 5: what we can do the power that is invested in

2629
03:09:11,640 --> 03:09:15,760
Speaker 5: each one of us in order to protect ourselves and

2630
03:09:16,520 --> 03:09:21,240
Speaker 5: thrive in this world. No matter really what they do,

2631
03:09:21,959 --> 03:09:26,879
Speaker 5: our past remains the same to separate our minds, if

2632
03:09:26,920 --> 03:09:30,959
Speaker 5: not our bodies, but certainly our minds from their wicked

2633
03:09:32,640 --> 03:09:38,440
Speaker 5: value system that does nothing but implicate us in our

2634
03:09:38,440 --> 03:09:39,160
Speaker 5: own oppression.

2635
03:09:41,800 --> 03:09:44,600
Speaker 2: All right, thank you to brother Gregory from North Carolina.

2636
03:09:44,760 --> 03:09:47,000
Speaker 2: Got a tweet question for you twenty seven minutes away

2637
03:09:47,000 --> 03:09:50,119
Speaker 2: from the top there, Doctor Fox tweet U says, grand

2638
03:09:50,200 --> 03:09:53,400
Speaker 2: Rising always a pleasure. When Doctor Fox comes on, ask

2639
03:09:53,480 --> 03:09:56,840
Speaker 2: him about addressing Diddy Combs in his book on page

2640
03:09:56,879 --> 03:09:59,360
Speaker 2: sixty and connecting the dots of what is going on

2641
03:09:59,480 --> 03:10:02,640
Speaker 2: with him being in prison today? Did he see the

2642
03:10:02,640 --> 03:10:05,680
Speaker 2: documentary of P did he produced by fifty cents? Another

2643
03:10:05,720 --> 03:10:08,640
Speaker 2: person he spoke of? What is his thoughts?

2644
03:10:10,440 --> 03:10:10,520
Speaker 26: Uh?

2645
03:10:10,680 --> 03:10:14,240
Speaker 5: No, I did not see that document. When I hear

2646
03:10:14,400 --> 03:10:20,360
Speaker 5: those names, I kind of turn off. I figure at

2647
03:10:20,400 --> 03:10:24,520
Speaker 5: this point, I sort of have their number, so to speak,

2648
03:10:24,680 --> 03:10:30,600
Speaker 5: and that's all I need at this point. You know,

2649
03:10:30,760 --> 03:10:33,720
Speaker 5: I'm too focused on trying to get our people to

2650
03:10:33,920 --> 03:10:40,920
Speaker 5: once again DETOXI from this sting uh value system that

2651
03:10:41,520 --> 03:10:47,760
Speaker 5: captured them. Unfortunately, there are uh you know, we're in

2652
03:10:47,800 --> 03:10:50,640
Speaker 5: the war. We're in the psychological war? Are And I

2653
03:10:50,720 --> 03:10:54,760
Speaker 5: often ask the question, and what war? Or has there

2654
03:10:55,000 --> 03:11:00,080
Speaker 5: been no casualties? Uh, there's always a casualty. So in

2655
03:11:00,080 --> 03:11:03,760
Speaker 5: this psychological war, people like P Diddy and the others

2656
03:11:04,080 --> 03:11:09,800
Speaker 5: and fifty cent are are are all casualties? Uh this

2657
03:11:09,959 --> 03:11:14,640
Speaker 5: psychological war or that we we've been uh uh you

2658
03:11:14,680 --> 03:11:21,520
Speaker 5: know in even though we haven't been willing to fight back. Uh,

2659
03:11:21,800 --> 03:11:26,840
Speaker 5: that our adversary have been waging war on our minds

2660
03:11:28,040 --> 03:11:33,520
Speaker 5: since the moment we step foot on these shores. And

2661
03:11:33,560 --> 03:11:37,840
Speaker 5: as I said, unfortunately we haven't been willing to fight

2662
03:11:37,959 --> 03:11:39,440
Speaker 5: back to protect our minds.

2663
03:11:39,920 --> 03:11:40,200
Speaker 3: Uh.

2664
03:11:40,320 --> 03:11:44,240
Speaker 5: But hopefully, you know, we'll get there. And that's the

2665
03:11:44,280 --> 03:11:49,360
Speaker 5: reason why I wrote this whole book. Uh. But no,

2666
03:11:49,480 --> 03:11:53,920
Speaker 5: I didn't see uh you know, his documentary. When I

2667
03:11:53,959 --> 03:11:58,320
Speaker 5: hear that, A. I'm not even inter arrested in following

2668
03:11:58,640 --> 03:12:03,480
Speaker 5: anything that they have to say because I know that

2669
03:12:03,520 --> 03:12:06,879
Speaker 5: they're too far gone and anything that comes out of

2670
03:12:06,920 --> 03:12:14,160
Speaker 5: their mouth uh just further their addiction and our addiction

2671
03:12:14,879 --> 03:12:19,080
Speaker 5: as well, because that's really all they have to offer,

2672
03:12:19,360 --> 03:12:23,959
Speaker 5: or they're put in front of us because they have money,

2673
03:12:24,600 --> 03:12:30,960
Speaker 5: and we have allowed ourselves to adopt our enemies definition

2674
03:12:31,360 --> 03:12:36,080
Speaker 5: of success, and our enemies definition of success is having

2675
03:12:36,200 --> 03:12:41,280
Speaker 5: money doing whatever. As as sent would say, what is

2676
03:12:41,320 --> 03:12:46,280
Speaker 5: it die trying, get rich or die trying? That's pure nonsense,

2677
03:12:47,640 --> 03:12:52,560
Speaker 5: But we've allowed ourselves to fall for that and any

2678
03:12:52,760 --> 03:12:56,640
Speaker 5: thing that comes out of their mouths is along that line,

2679
03:12:58,320 --> 03:13:03,840
Speaker 5: which ultimately does not profit us as a mass of people.

2680
03:13:04,120 --> 03:13:08,160
Speaker 5: It may profit then them as they you know, sell

2681
03:13:08,280 --> 03:13:11,200
Speaker 5: poison to the our fellow brothers and sisters in the

2682
03:13:11,200 --> 03:13:15,800
Speaker 5: hood and to get money, to get you know, money

2683
03:13:15,840 --> 03:13:22,320
Speaker 5: and position for themselves, but it doesn't serve us as

2684
03:13:22,360 --> 03:13:25,080
Speaker 5: a mass of people. So I don't pay attention to

2685
03:13:25,160 --> 03:13:27,400
Speaker 5: anything they have to say.

2686
03:13:28,320 --> 03:13:30,720
Speaker 2: I'm with you on that daughter Fox, same thing here,

2687
03:13:30,760 --> 03:13:33,560
Speaker 2: and it's just actually the same thing. But we have

2688
03:13:34,000 --> 03:13:36,320
Speaker 2: a bunch of our folks who like this kind of stuff.

2689
03:13:36,320 --> 03:13:38,879
Speaker 2: There's a proprivity of folks who like the Real House

2690
03:13:38,959 --> 03:13:41,440
Speaker 2: Livestyle as the reality programs.

2691
03:13:41,240 --> 03:13:47,279
Speaker 5: They just because they're addicted to white there because.

2692
03:13:47,560 --> 03:13:49,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, can you drill down on that. When we get

2693
03:13:49,320 --> 03:13:51,680
Speaker 2: back from this break, family, you two can join us.

2694
03:13:51,800 --> 03:13:55,120
Speaker 2: Our guess is doctor Jeromy Fox is books or work

2695
03:13:55,120 --> 03:13:57,920
Speaker 2: book is best selling work progression. I just call addicted

2696
03:13:57,959 --> 03:14:00,600
Speaker 2: to White the oppressed and legal de oppressure. She based

2697
03:14:00,600 --> 03:14:03,119
Speaker 2: their lives. Give those folks are addicted to why a white?

2698
03:14:03,360 --> 03:14:05,560
Speaker 2: Give him a copy for Kwansa. Do you want to

2699
03:14:05,600 --> 03:14:08,160
Speaker 2: speak to doctor Fox right now? They'll reach out to

2700
03:14:08,240 --> 03:14:10,920
Speaker 2: us at eight hundred and four five zero seventy eight,

2701
03:14:11,040 --> 03:14:12,840
Speaker 2: seventy six, and we'll take a phone calls.

2702
03:14:12,760 --> 03:14:36,200
Speaker 20: Next IM.

2703
03:15:02,879 --> 03:15:14,320
Speaker 10: Fourteen fifty WOL Now back to the Carl Nelson Show.

2704
03:15:36,000 --> 03:15:38,160
Speaker 2: And Grand Rising Family. Thanks to staying with us on

2705
03:15:38,240 --> 03:15:41,199
Speaker 2: this December twenty fifth Christmas Day, the summer you're celebrating.

2706
03:15:41,200 --> 03:15:43,760
Speaker 2: Marry Christmas to you. It's eighteen minutes away from the

2707
03:15:43,800 --> 03:15:46,320
Speaker 2: top of the air though. We're live with doctor Jeromy Fox.

2708
03:15:46,640 --> 03:15:49,480
Speaker 2: He's a clinical psychologist and his book is the best

2709
03:15:49,480 --> 03:15:52,160
Speaker 2: selling workbook Addicted to White, the Oppressed in League with

2710
03:15:52,240 --> 03:15:54,320
Speaker 2: the Oppressor. Before we go back to doctor Fosh, I'll

2711
03:15:54,360 --> 03:15:56,400
Speaker 2: just remind you Tomorrow's Friday. We're going to give you

2712
03:15:56,440 --> 03:15:58,680
Speaker 2: another chance to free your mind. All that means is

2713
03:15:58,720 --> 03:16:01,199
Speaker 2: a thing for yourself on us for our last open

2714
03:16:01,240 --> 03:16:03,720
Speaker 2: phone Friday program of twenty twenty five. You can start

2715
03:16:03,800 --> 03:16:06,520
Speaker 2: checking in at six am Eastern Time right here in

2716
03:16:06,560 --> 03:16:09,200
Speaker 2: Baltimore on ten ten w LB, or if you're in

2717
03:16:09,200 --> 03:16:11,800
Speaker 2: the DMV area, we're on fourteen fifty w o L.

2718
03:16:12,200 --> 03:16:15,440
Speaker 2: Doctor Fox. The proclivity some of our people have to

2719
03:16:15,480 --> 03:16:19,039
Speaker 2: watch these, the real house rights shows and uh the

2720
03:16:19,120 --> 03:16:22,160
Speaker 2: ditty program that you mentioned fifty cent. All these these

2721
03:16:22,160 --> 03:16:25,200
Speaker 2: are all these these these programs and so many of

2722
03:16:25,200 --> 03:16:28,160
Speaker 2: our people watching them. That's why there's there's a proliferation

2723
03:16:28,240 --> 03:16:31,760
Speaker 2: of them across the airways, right, people will watching What

2724
03:16:32,080 --> 03:16:34,680
Speaker 2: is it? What's the issue with that, doctor Fox?

2725
03:16:35,240 --> 03:16:47,720
Speaker 5: Well, we're not doing the work require two battle effectively.

2726
03:16:48,600 --> 03:16:58,480
Speaker 5: Again in this cycle logical warfare that are immediate are

2727
03:16:58,520 --> 03:17:02,800
Speaker 5: are you know, in gauging and you have to be

2728
03:17:02,840 --> 03:17:07,640
Speaker 5: willing to fight back in order to not succumb. All

2729
03:17:07,720 --> 03:17:13,840
Speaker 5: the things that you just mentioned are uh, represent our

2730
03:17:15,800 --> 03:17:23,199
Speaker 5: succumbing to the war or that's being waged against our minds.

2731
03:17:24,120 --> 03:17:28,080
Speaker 5: We have to be willing to do the work. That's

2732
03:17:28,120 --> 03:17:32,640
Speaker 5: the whole purpose of my work book is to get

2733
03:17:32,720 --> 03:17:39,080
Speaker 5: us started on doing the work. That's we're required to

2734
03:17:39,120 --> 03:17:43,080
Speaker 5: protect our minds? What else valuable weapon?

2735
03:17:43,800 --> 03:17:43,920
Speaker 16: Uh?

2736
03:17:44,400 --> 03:17:51,720
Speaker 5: In this whole effort to be free permanently, we just

2737
03:17:51,760 --> 03:17:56,000
Speaker 5: don't seem to be willing to do that kind of work,

2738
03:17:56,440 --> 03:18:00,480
Speaker 5: and it's costing us. We don't have a thought. I

2739
03:18:00,480 --> 03:18:04,080
Speaker 5: have said this before in your program. We barely have

2740
03:18:04,520 --> 03:18:10,360
Speaker 5: a single thought of our own, of our own.

2741
03:18:11,040 --> 03:18:11,360
Speaker 11: Uh.

2742
03:18:11,560 --> 03:18:17,600
Speaker 5: We would rely on our enemies for everything, including our

2743
03:18:17,760 --> 03:18:24,600
Speaker 5: perspective on life, including every important idea about life. We

2744
03:18:25,000 --> 03:18:29,280
Speaker 5: allow them to for instancetance, to define the so called

2745
03:18:29,360 --> 03:18:35,440
Speaker 5: good life in terms of a selfish pursuit of of

2746
03:18:35,440 --> 03:18:44,880
Speaker 5: of really uh of of greed and and excess, rather

2747
03:18:44,959 --> 03:18:52,680
Speaker 5: than the good life being participating in helping everyone have

2748
03:18:52,920 --> 03:18:54,519
Speaker 5: a decent life.

2749
03:18:54,720 --> 03:18:55,000
Speaker 11: Uh.

2750
03:18:55,000 --> 03:18:58,720
Speaker 5: We could define it that way, but we don't. We

2751
03:18:58,840 --> 03:19:02,400
Speaker 5: have accepted their definition of the so called good life.

2752
03:19:02,800 --> 03:19:07,600
Speaker 5: We've accepted that their definition of success, which I just

2753
03:19:08,160 --> 03:19:16,080
Speaker 5: mentioned being nothing more and accumulation more greed, accumulation of

2754
03:19:16,160 --> 03:19:21,199
Speaker 5: things and and and money and the things that money buys.

2755
03:19:22,240 --> 03:19:27,440
Speaker 5: We barely have our own thought uh, indicating that we're

2756
03:19:27,480 --> 03:19:33,520
Speaker 5: not engaging, uh doing the work in order to be free,

2757
03:19:33,560 --> 03:19:36,160
Speaker 5: in order to free our minds first, as the saying

2758
03:19:36,320 --> 03:19:39,800
Speaker 5: that goes free your mind and the rest will follow.

2759
03:19:40,320 --> 03:19:44,320
Speaker 5: And we have simply refused to do that. That's why

2760
03:19:44,360 --> 03:19:48,240
Speaker 5: I wrote this book to encourage us to get about

2761
03:19:48,640 --> 03:19:53,280
Speaker 5: the work of separating our minds from this evil and

2762
03:19:53,360 --> 03:19:58,640
Speaker 5: wicked system that we live under. And you know, I'll

2763
03:19:58,720 --> 03:20:01,480
Speaker 5: keep trying to encourage the I'm sure you will do

2764
03:20:01,959 --> 03:20:06,960
Speaker 5: the same in this coming year. And hopefully the seeds

2765
03:20:07,000 --> 03:20:12,800
Speaker 5: are falling on fertile ground and these some people are

2766
03:20:12,879 --> 03:20:19,039
Speaker 5: coming out of their addiction to white But we'll we'll

2767
03:20:19,400 --> 03:20:26,320
Speaker 5: keep doing until we can gather that critical mass of people,

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Speaker 5: uh that we need in order to really move forward

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03:20:31,800 --> 03:20:35,880
Speaker 5: an our attempt to thrive in this will not just survive,

2770
03:20:36,920 --> 03:20:38,920
Speaker 5: but we've got to do this mental work.

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03:20:39,000 --> 03:20:42,160
Speaker 2: First thought, you away from the top of Doctor Fox.

2772
03:20:42,200 --> 03:20:43,680
Speaker 2: You've got a bunch of folks want to talk to you.

2773
03:20:43,879 --> 03:20:46,600
Speaker 2: Let's go to line one robbers cars from Kansas City,

2774
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Speaker 2: Grandarizing Roberts your question for Doctor Fox.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, just a thought, Doctor Fox. Uh, you know, Doctor Fox.

2776
03:20:54,240 --> 03:20:56,560
Speaker 25: Every morning I look at these squirrels that live in

2777
03:20:56,560 --> 03:20:59,080
Speaker 25: my backyard, and the thing that I noticed about them

2778
03:20:59,200 --> 03:21:03,480
Speaker 25: is that even though all they have is nuts to

2779
03:21:03,560 --> 03:21:06,400
Speaker 25: eat for food and nourishment and trees living for shelter,

2780
03:21:07,360 --> 03:21:10,840
Speaker 25: their families are completely intact the way the creator intended

2781
03:21:10,840 --> 03:21:14,080
Speaker 25: them for Pavilion. There's no crime going on in the

2782
03:21:14,120 --> 03:21:17,080
Speaker 25: squirrel community. You don't see the squirrel police setting up

2783
03:21:17,120 --> 03:21:20,920
Speaker 25: yellow tape because some squirrel has been killed another squirrel.

2784
03:21:20,920 --> 03:21:22,520
Speaker 25: And so I asked a friend of mine, I said, well,

2785
03:21:22,520 --> 03:21:25,320
Speaker 25: why don't we have I said, most of us, as

2786
03:21:25,360 --> 03:21:27,640
Speaker 25: black people, we have food, you know, in some type

2787
03:21:27,640 --> 03:21:29,480
Speaker 25: of shelter. Even if you're living in a homeless shelter.

2788
03:21:29,920 --> 03:21:32,520
Speaker 25: I said, so, why is it that we have an

2789
03:21:32,520 --> 03:21:35,240
Speaker 25: epidemic of crime in one parent homes and they don't.

2790
03:21:35,640 --> 03:21:38,840
Speaker 25: It's because they know how to. They're thinking has not

2791
03:21:38,920 --> 03:21:42,080
Speaker 25: been hijacked. Your thoughts about that.

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03:21:42,800 --> 03:21:47,840
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, you're just kind of repeating just what

2793
03:21:48,240 --> 03:21:51,959
Speaker 5: I just said that it all begins with our mind.

2794
03:21:52,800 --> 03:21:56,760
Speaker 5: We would be able to just sign a whole lot

2795
03:21:55,760 --> 03:22:00,120
Speaker 5: of stuff to put it to protect our community of

2796
03:22:00,160 --> 03:22:04,480
Speaker 5: these if we had our minds in the right place.

2797
03:22:04,520 --> 03:22:09,240
Speaker 5: I give just one example in the book when I

2798
03:22:09,320 --> 03:22:18,800
Speaker 5: say that's our collegiate and professional athletes had their heads

2799
03:22:18,840 --> 03:22:25,360
Speaker 5: together and unified and just stopped playing it were a

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03:22:25,520 --> 03:22:33,560
Speaker 5: cripple number one the ESPN industry immediately and just stop

2801
03:22:33,920 --> 03:22:40,360
Speaker 5: playing until every police person, for instance, was brought to

2802
03:22:40,680 --> 03:22:45,480
Speaker 5: justice in this court system who killed an unarmed black person.

2803
03:22:46,600 --> 03:22:51,480
Speaker 5: But our minds are not set to do that. Collectively

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03:22:51,680 --> 03:22:55,720
Speaker 5: as as a group, so many things that so many

2805
03:22:55,760 --> 03:23:02,280
Speaker 5: problems that would disappear if we were more unionified in

2806
03:23:02,320 --> 03:23:09,320
Speaker 5: our effort to attack those problems. We're just randomly thoughtlessly

2807
03:23:09,959 --> 03:23:15,160
Speaker 5: bringing children, black babies into this world that we know

2808
03:23:15,800 --> 03:23:21,560
Speaker 5: we cannot support properly. If we had our minds together,

2809
03:23:22,200 --> 03:23:28,880
Speaker 5: we would be a more thoughtful in family planning. It's

2810
03:23:28,920 --> 03:23:34,280
Speaker 5: just we would be schooling our children better. At one

2811
03:23:34,560 --> 03:23:41,080
Speaker 5: point in the sixties, we were establishing African independent schools

2812
03:23:41,160 --> 03:23:44,800
Speaker 5: in our community that went by the wayside because our

2813
03:23:44,840 --> 03:23:47,440
Speaker 5: minds were really never in the right place.

2814
03:23:48,360 --> 03:23:49,000
Speaker 10: But we.

2815
03:23:50,600 --> 03:23:55,480
Speaker 5: Could do a series of things that would protect ourselves, elves,

2816
03:23:55,560 --> 03:24:00,040
Speaker 5: and further our communities if our minds were in the

2817
03:24:00,160 --> 03:24:06,640
Speaker 5: right place. UH. Helping us to unify UH our efforts

2818
03:24:06,720 --> 03:24:09,760
Speaker 5: because a lot of these things cannot be fought into

2819
03:24:10,480 --> 03:24:15,640
Speaker 5: UH individually, cannot be tackled individually. We have to tackle

2820
03:24:15,720 --> 03:24:18,320
Speaker 5: them as a unit. And I mentioned that in the

2821
03:24:18,360 --> 03:24:26,400
Speaker 5: book as well. But unifying us is a mammoth task

2822
03:24:26,520 --> 03:24:30,160
Speaker 5: at this point because our minds are not in the

2823
03:24:30,240 --> 03:24:34,959
Speaker 5: right place. Our heads are in the behindnds of white folks,

2824
03:24:35,520 --> 03:24:38,960
Speaker 5: and at this point it would almost take the jaws

2825
03:24:39,040 --> 03:24:42,879
Speaker 5: of like to pry us out of their behinds. But

2826
03:24:45,040 --> 03:24:47,840
Speaker 5: this is this is, this is what the my book

2827
03:24:48,240 --> 03:24:54,640
Speaker 5: is trying to do. Is it's take us out of

2828
03:24:54,680 --> 03:25:00,080
Speaker 5: this devotion that we have to white people and and

2829
03:25:00,160 --> 03:25:05,039
Speaker 5: even more importantly, their worldview. Because even those of us

2830
03:25:05,040 --> 03:25:09,920
Speaker 5: who claim not to be not to like our enemies.

2831
03:25:10,760 --> 03:25:15,080
Speaker 5: We still serve their value system, all.

2832
03:25:15,080 --> 03:25:18,080
Speaker 2: Right at eight and four five zero seventy eight seventy

2833
03:25:18,080 --> 03:25:20,360
Speaker 2: sixth rations across the cliff. Can you make your cuestion

2834
03:25:20,600 --> 03:25:22,960
Speaker 2: real short for us and Cliff online four. By the way,

2835
03:25:23,080 --> 03:25:30,280
Speaker 2: it's calling from Connecticut, Cliff Cliff Online for.

2836
03:25:31,640 --> 03:25:32,760
Speaker 27: My question, doctor Fox.

2837
03:25:32,800 --> 03:25:33,280
Speaker 23: Can you hear me?

2838
03:25:34,120 --> 03:25:35,560
Speaker 5: Yes Fox, Yeah.

2839
03:25:35,320 --> 03:25:36,400
Speaker 3: Okay, great, thank you.

2840
03:25:36,520 --> 03:25:36,959
Speaker 27: Listen mine.

2841
03:25:37,000 --> 03:25:39,800
Speaker 23: I'll get right to the point in your opinion, right,

2842
03:25:40,160 --> 03:25:44,640
Speaker 23: Why hasn't the government claim telling the American people that

2843
03:25:44,720 --> 03:25:49,640
Speaker 23: there are UFOs or APUs existing. You're congressional carrings, you

2844
03:25:49,760 --> 03:25:54,080
Speaker 23: have law enforcement, you have government officials, the military that

2845
03:25:54,160 --> 03:25:57,879
Speaker 23: have now testified that they've seen. Also the unable minister,

2846
03:25:57,879 --> 03:26:00,560
Speaker 23: the little saphar Kin speaks about the will in the

2847
03:26:00,600 --> 03:26:03,600
Speaker 23: middle of a will that he has an army that

2848
03:26:03,680 --> 03:26:06,400
Speaker 23: you see and that you don't see. In your opinion,

2849
03:26:06,640 --> 03:26:08,920
Speaker 23: why doesn't the government come clean to the American people?

2850
03:26:10,640 --> 03:26:16,440
Speaker 5: The government coming clean about anything, quite frankly, is not

2851
03:26:16,560 --> 03:26:21,120
Speaker 5: going to happen because the government is not clean and

2852
03:26:21,120 --> 03:26:26,840
Speaker 5: its purposes or in its vision. So we we can't

2853
03:26:27,160 --> 03:26:34,120
Speaker 5: be relying on the government to do anything that would

2854
03:26:34,160 --> 03:26:38,039
Speaker 5: profit us as a people. We have to force the

2855
03:26:38,040 --> 03:26:45,039
Speaker 5: government through infiltration, et cetera, and the other means to

2856
03:26:45,160 --> 03:26:51,039
Speaker 5: do right by us. But just you know, relying sitting

2857
03:26:51,120 --> 03:26:56,560
Speaker 5: back and thinking that the government will help us out

2858
03:26:56,600 --> 03:27:00,760
Speaker 5: of our difficulties, that's not going to happen. We enough

2859
03:27:00,840 --> 03:27:03,920
Speaker 5: to get in there and take control of the government.

2860
03:27:03,959 --> 03:27:06,800
Speaker 5: I mean to make it our government, or at least

2861
03:27:06,800 --> 03:27:10,280
Speaker 5: the government I mean that serves us. But in order

2862
03:27:10,360 --> 03:27:14,520
Speaker 5: to do that, we have to have a strategy. And

2863
03:27:15,440 --> 03:27:18,440
Speaker 5: in order to have a strategy, we have to have

2864
03:27:18,600 --> 03:27:22,160
Speaker 5: of our minds in the right place. So there again,

2865
03:27:22,560 --> 03:27:26,039
Speaker 5: were right back where I started. Get our heads in

2866
03:27:26,080 --> 03:27:30,600
Speaker 5: the right place, and none of this stuff will be

2867
03:27:31,040 --> 03:27:35,680
Speaker 5: any kind of obstacle to our freedom, our permanent liberation.

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03:27:37,160 --> 03:27:41,000
Speaker 2: Not the fox before we go, kire us. The short

2869
03:27:41,120 --> 03:27:43,720
Speaker 2: version of the five white core values that many of

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03:27:43,800 --> 03:27:45,800
Speaker 2: us are addicted to, some much still, that we all

2871
03:27:45,879 --> 03:27:47,400
Speaker 2: were addicted to at some point.

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03:27:48,000 --> 03:27:53,720
Speaker 5: Right The first white value, you is, everything in black

2873
03:27:54,040 --> 03:27:57,840
Speaker 5: is bad and everything white is good. And we see

2874
03:27:57,879 --> 03:28:02,800
Speaker 5: that in our addition to toward hair texture as well

2875
03:28:02,680 --> 03:28:09,560
Speaker 5: as other things. The white value number two, uh, basically

2876
03:28:10,200 --> 03:28:15,359
Speaker 5: money and the things that money buys are more important

2877
03:28:15,800 --> 03:28:20,560
Speaker 5: than relationships. That's why are these traders that we spoke of.

2878
03:28:20,720 --> 03:28:25,560
Speaker 5: These snoop dogs and the others are willing to violate

2879
03:28:26,240 --> 03:28:30,400
Speaker 5: their relationship to the black community in order to proceed

2880
03:28:31,200 --> 03:28:40,039
Speaker 5: and individually things for themselves, things above relationships. White value

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03:28:40,080 --> 03:28:45,039
Speaker 5: number three. The white oppressors are trustworthy recorders and interpreters

2882
03:28:45,080 --> 03:28:50,920
Speaker 5: of history and reality. That's why we don't question their

2883
03:28:50,959 --> 03:28:57,720
Speaker 5: history books or their newscasts. Value number four. Individualism is

2884
03:28:57,760 --> 03:29:02,720
Speaker 5: better than collectivism. Book of doubt about that before. That's

2885
03:29:03,120 --> 03:29:08,400
Speaker 5: why we don't or can't unify, because we're too busy

2886
03:29:08,879 --> 03:29:14,200
Speaker 5: gathering goodies from their table, crimps from their table for

2887
03:29:14,320 --> 03:29:18,400
Speaker 5: ourselves and with no thought of our people.

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03:29:20,120 --> 03:29:20,400
Speaker 11: Uh.

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03:29:20,440 --> 03:29:23,840
Speaker 5: And then white value and number five. The best way

2890
03:29:23,879 --> 03:29:27,080
Speaker 5: to feel good about your your of is bias of

2891
03:29:27,160 --> 03:29:32,920
Speaker 5: passing out, doing, or defeating someone else in an activity, achievement,

2892
03:29:33,160 --> 03:29:38,800
Speaker 5: or personal characteristic. In other words, constant competition as opposed

2893
03:29:38,879 --> 03:29:41,400
Speaker 5: to cooperation among our people.

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03:29:43,200 --> 03:29:45,640
Speaker 2: And that goes trying to add black another black person.

2895
03:29:45,760 --> 03:29:50,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it includes even the so called you know,

2896
03:29:50,720 --> 03:29:59,959
Speaker 5: black advocates who are still engaged in the competition, uh

2897
03:30:00,040 --> 03:30:06,520
Speaker 5: of who's blacker the blacker than thou competition. That's why

2898
03:30:06,520 --> 03:30:11,880
Speaker 5: I say even people who claim to be the advocates

2899
03:30:11,879 --> 03:30:16,280
Speaker 5: for the black people are still afflicted with this same

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03:30:16,360 --> 03:30:20,480
Speaker 5: white value system.

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03:30:21,720 --> 03:30:22,200
Speaker 2: How can we have.

2902
03:30:23,920 --> 03:30:27,520
Speaker 5: You can get the book on Amazon, and you can

2903
03:30:27,600 --> 03:30:32,160
Speaker 5: certainly get the book in Baltimore or at the African

2904
03:30:32,160 --> 03:30:42,480
Speaker 5: World Book bookstore on twenty two seventeen, Pennsylvania Avenue. Thank

2905
03:30:42,520 --> 03:30:44,400
Speaker 5: you for going to any bookstore and ask for it

2906
03:30:44,480 --> 03:30:46,120
Speaker 5: and they'll order it for you.

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03:30:46,560 --> 03:30:49,440
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, thank you, doctor Fox. Thank you for

2908
03:30:49,480 --> 03:30:51,000
Speaker 2: Shaniel Fos for us this morning.

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Speaker 5: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 2: All right, thank you. I know, take care. I know

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Speaker 2: many you're gonna be watching football today, the Cowboys and

2912
03:30:59,360 --> 03:31:02,119
Speaker 2: the Commanders games at one o'clock, the Lions and the Vikings.

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Speaker 2: That's the four point thirty both of those games by

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03:31:03,959 --> 03:31:07,680
Speaker 2: the way around Netflix. And also tonight the Broncos and

2915
03:31:07,720 --> 03:31:10,400
Speaker 2: the Chiefs at eight fifteen. That's on Prime TV. So

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03:31:10,400 --> 03:31:12,280
Speaker 2: so you're gonna change for this holiday, and you know,

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03:31:12,600 --> 03:31:14,800
Speaker 2: no regular TV you gotta have. They're all going to

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Speaker 2: be streamed anyway. Family, have a great day, a great holiday.

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Speaker 2: If that's if you're you're indulging in that. Stay strong,

2920
03:31:20,959 --> 03:31:24,080
Speaker 2: stay positive, please stay healthy. We'll see you tomorrow morning,

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