1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: It is not Rob Kendall, it is not Casey Daniels. 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: It is abdul jaquim shabaz. What the world has gone 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: on here? And my good friend mister Jerry. 4 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 2: Lopez too, by the way, Hey, good morning, have you Monday. 5 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: Happy Monday, my friend? Like, okay, I'm doing what's going on? 6 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 2: Oh? 7 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 3: Just filling in, that's all. Just today. 8 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: Got lots of other work to do, got lawyer work 9 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: to do, got legislative stuff to do. Got to finish 10 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: shoveling out my driveway. Actually I did not have to 11 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: shovel at all. You'd be very proud of me. 12 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, as a as a, as a Cuban, I hate 13 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 2: this time of year. Like I'm the you've seen in 14 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: Florida with like the iguanas are falling from trees, like 15 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 2: that is what I do in winter. I don't leave 16 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 2: the house. 17 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, when it's forty seven degrees in Miami, like, oh 18 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: my god, it's free. It's it's a planet Hall from 19 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: Star Wars Like, no, no, it's not. It's that's that's 20 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: called normal for Florida winter. 21 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 3: Uh no. 22 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Like I said, always good to be here, 23 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 1: Alex say, just filling in today, h while the folks 24 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: are out, Uh, they'll be back to the reckless schedule. 25 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: Lots of stuff to talk about on the program today. 26 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: And by the way, you can reach us via Twitter 27 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: att Y abdul and. 28 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 2: And I'm at INDI spanglish on on the Twitter slash x. 29 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 3: That's right, you had us banglish. 30 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: So I keep I keep trying to I keep trying 31 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: to remember who's all Twitter handles. 32 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 3: I have like eight million of them. 33 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: Because I have my regular Twitter accounts, I also have my 34 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: ghost Twitter accounts. I used to follow people that blocked 35 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: me because in my world, you always gotta know what 36 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: the heck is. 37 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 2: Are you admitting to having a burner account? 38 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 3: I have several burner accounts. 39 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: My burner accounts have burner accounts, and so that I 40 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: do not apologize for I. 41 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: Don't have any. I don't have any and my. 42 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 3: Friend but no. 43 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: It was funny because I obviously had the big snowstorm 44 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: in the last couple of weeks, and my wife, who's 45 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: a massage therapist, her job was closed for a couple 46 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,839 Speaker 1: of days, and the gym where she goes and works 47 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: out every day was also closed for a couple of days, 48 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: so she was really upset that, Okay, I can't believe 49 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: I won't be able to get my work out it Like, well, sweet, 50 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: actually I got an idea. 51 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 3: Here's a shovel. 52 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: No, it's like, what do you mean, Like, yeah, clear 53 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: the driveway and the sidewalk and the mailboxes, that we 54 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: get your cardio and get your work out in. Just 55 00:01:58,520 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: pace yourself. 56 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 3: Blah blah bla blah. And so she went out, she 57 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 3: cleared the driveway, and how's. 58 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: Your back feel from sleeping on the couch. 59 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: Actually, no, actually I grew up in Chicago, so I 60 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: will shovel snow. That is not a problem. I will 61 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: actually get out and do it. But while she was 62 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: upset that she didn't get her work out in because 63 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 1: she's been losing weight and looking really looking even better 64 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: than when I first met her, God blessed America. One 65 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: day he's gonna get her eyesight back and sober up. 66 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: Then I'm gonna be screwed and she's gonna leave me. 67 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: But no, in the in the process, she got her 68 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: work out in. She got her hard right up, gotta 69 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 1: got her muscles all exercise, and by the sweet sweety, 70 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: remember look with your knees, not your back. 71 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 2: There it is, and. 72 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: So we were fine, so yeah, but no, no, but 73 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: it's always going to be here, folks. Lots of stuff 74 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: to get to on the program today. Legislatured is halftime, 75 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: so we'll talk about that for a little bit as well. 76 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 3: Also say representive Ed. 77 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: Claire Uh, he's a Republican down in New Albany is 78 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: leaving the party to run for mayor of New Albany 79 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: as an independent, So we'll kind of talk about that 80 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: on the program today. Also, you also, Jerry, want to 81 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: talk about what did you have in mind on the 82 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: program today. 83 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: We obviously have the latest news out of Fishers, the 84 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 2: the you know that, the latest information on the missing 85 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 2: girl Hayley, So there's been an update on that as 86 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 2: of yesterday, there's been new Epstein release, so lots of 87 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: interest interesting coming out. Was Trump's name redacted or not? 88 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 2: There's there's a lot of theories going around. When they 89 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 2: first released his name showed up hundreds of times, and 90 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: within twenty minutes his name was scrubbed completely. So there's 91 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 2: the ice thing that I mean, there's walkouts going on. 92 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: I have a theory about the data dump on Friday, 93 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: and my theory is whenever you don't. There's a there's 94 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: this theory of the news business that when you got 95 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: news that you're not crazy about, you always release it on. 96 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 3: Friday at five o'clock. 97 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: Yep, because it'll take the news people forever to get 98 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: that all squared away and figured out. But I also 99 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: think it's interesting that the that the Epstein files dropped 100 00:03:55,640 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: the same day that Don Lemon was especially in died it. 101 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 3: Like, huh, that's kind of interesting. 102 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 2: I mean, that'll be a interesting conversation to get into, 103 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 2: right as a journalist, like where does he crossed the line? 104 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 2: So I mean, there's there's there's a lot of things, 105 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 2: and we have the right person here to ask all 106 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 2: these leading questions too. 107 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: And see, I don't think Don Lemon did anything wrong 108 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: from everything I've seen so far. He was there at 109 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: the church, you know, just doing what you do with 110 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: just record stuff doesn't necessarily mean you were a participant 111 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: in the activity. And I bring it up because I 112 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: had something similar happened to me. This was back in 113 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: oh gosh, I think like twenty eleven, is twenty twelve, 114 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: during the whole marijuana debate here and Indiana, at the 115 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,799 Speaker 1: First Church of Cannabis over near Keystone because they're actually 116 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: going to light up at the at the event to 117 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: and I'll explain to you. But my situation back then 118 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: was kind of like the situation that Don Lemon's in 119 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: right now, except it was a different except it wasn't 120 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: gonna be charged with anything. But it was an interesting 121 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: dichotomy sort of back back and forth on that because 122 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: I want to say Terry Curry, Yeah, Terry Curry was 123 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: Mary County prosecutor at the time Terry uh passed away 124 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: and now Ryan Muers is the Mary County prosecutor, which, 125 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: by the way, actually spoke to him a couple of 126 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: weeks ago. Uh that that interview is actually up on 127 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: Indie politics at Orgjectate. Here we talked about no crime, 128 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: the murder rates. People say Mirors is a bad prosecutor, Like, okay, 129 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: be that, say what you will, but you can't meet 130 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: somebody with nobody. 131 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 2: Well, I think that they put the Republicans have put 132 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: forth some good people, which just sucks to still feel 133 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 2: like the city doesn't give Republicans a chance. And maybe 134 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 2: and maybe the right has something to do with that. 135 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 2: Maybe we give up certain districts or we don't even 136 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 2: try because we just give it away. But I really 137 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 2: like Cidney Crossco. It's nice at here is still still involved. 138 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 2: But I think she should have beat Ryan Meuhers. I 139 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 2: think the city would have been doing a lot better. 140 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: But also I think too The thing to keep in 141 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: mind is with with with with with voting in the 142 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: Mary County Prosecutor's race. Obviously, see I think Republicans still 143 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 1: can win in Marion County. But you have to be 144 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 1: sort of the right kind of Republican, can't You can't 145 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: be the you know, the rural ish Republican, because that 146 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: doesn't fly here in the people care about roads to 147 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 1: t care about infrastruct about care about crime and good schools, 148 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: all the other socialcial stuff. People in the city don't 149 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: care about it. I got other stuff to think about 150 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 1: and or worry about here. 151 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 3: But I uh. 152 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: And Greg Baller when he was mayor, he wrote a 153 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: book called him Something, basically him something Urban Republican is 154 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: what it is, and was a guy to how Republicans 155 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: can actually win in big cities. You just got to 156 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: run on stuff that people care about, you know, forget 157 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: all the know the same sex transgender stuff. Just read 158 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: everybody equally and fair and just be done with it. 159 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: But I do think from a from an urban perspective, 160 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: you can win if you take care of things like potholes. 161 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, I lost two potholes two weeks ago on 162 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 2: this or I lost two tires on the same pothole 163 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 2: two weeks ago coming downtown. 164 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, in my old car, my old Nissan. I'm I 165 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: had the right to replace them with a Massa now. 166 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: But driving out leaving the subdivision hit a Nego Creek 167 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 1: drive hit a pothole. Next you know, my tire is 168 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: out and gone. But it didn't go but didn't go 169 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 1: out right away. It went out by the time I 170 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: got to University of Annapolis to go teach. Come on 171 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: the interstate, you knew a little thing with a tire 172 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: pressure like thirty three thirty two is what's supposed to be. 173 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 3: It was like twelve. Like that's not good at all. 174 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: But God bless the guys over a good year, literally 175 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: right next door to here for taking care of me. 176 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: It is what nine fourteen, nine fifteen here on WIBC radio. 177 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: I got to remember which radio station I want, so 178 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: I also do this, and I do WVO went out 179 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: of Chicago, so I gotta remember which okay, which dude, idiot, 180 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: pay attention, wake up, snap, pay attention. And by the way, 181 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: Kevin is here too. By the way, so Kevin keeping 182 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: the keeping the ship said under control. So Kevin, I'm 183 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: gonna eat you to take out of the clock and 184 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: let me know when we got to break him. 185 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 3: When we don't break, I'll be hon it right cool? 186 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, so we uh Well, the AJC walk out 187 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: at Claire also U marijuana at the Indiana General Assembly. 188 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 3: That is back on. 189 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 2: Hey, I can't wait to get into that one once again. 190 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 2: The right person. We are surrounded by we are surrounded 191 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 2: by it. We're surrounded by it, and now we're seeing 192 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 2: the results of the money coming by. And let's be honest. 193 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 2: I mean, we're all adults at this point. You got 194 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 2: to handle the same way you handle alcohol. Alcohol does 195 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 2: just as many bad things to people and the families, 196 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 2: into society or whatever. 197 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: I mean. 198 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 2: You got to regulate it. Or people are driving to 199 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 2: Michigan and coming back with felonies. Well that's crazy. 200 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: Well my thing is this incentive Indiana Today, no one 201 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: is more than an hour and a half drive away 202 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: from legal pot, right, whether it's Illinois, Ohio, Michigan and 203 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: to a lesser degree, Kentucky. No one is more than 204 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: an hour and a half's drive away from legal marijuana 205 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: where it's Danville, Illinois, or right across the border in Ohio, Michigan, Louisville. 206 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 3: It's all right there. 207 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: So just legalize it, tax and keep all the rules 208 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 1: and regulations in place, treated just like the way you 209 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: do alcohol. 210 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 3: And that's always a multitude. 211 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 2: So that's back on, though, yeah it. 212 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: Is back on, but it's back on, but it's on 213 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: almost almost kind of backwards. Sure in a way is 214 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: where the rest of country's kind of moving forward and 215 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: doing things. Indiana sort of restricting trying to restrict advertising 216 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: where it can be sold, and also going after the CBD 217 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 1: stores all that I did see that now, if you 218 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: want to regulate CBD content, that to me makes sense 219 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: because in place like Illinois and Michigan, there's only so 220 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: much you can have in your in your edibles or 221 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: whatever it is you buy. But CBD it's knocked yourself out. 222 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: It's like whoa, whoa, whoa whoa time out here. So 223 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: lots of to get to on the program today, it 224 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: is Abdulla and Jerry Lopez and for Kindl and Casey. 225 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 3: Here on ninety three WIBC. 226 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: Thank you, Kevin. By the way, this is our upper 227 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: music today. It's all nineties modern rock alternative. 228 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, trying to keep it somatic with your show. 229 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 3: Thank you. 230 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Google Dolls, Nirvana, Jars of Clay. I'm 231 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: a total complete nineties modern rock alternative dork and I 232 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: do not apologize for it. 233 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 4: Those are Those are the classics. 234 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: My Spotify playlists. It's rather interesting. It's a lot of 235 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: you'll precid this year. It's a lot of nineties modern 236 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: rock alternative and a lot of Broadway Show two. 237 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know what makes you think I would 238 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 2: appreciate it, no clue. 239 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm back in my old days. Say 240 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: when you said my iPod, I'd said if somebody stole it, 241 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: they'd immediately put it back. Like this person's crazy. I'm 242 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: gonna go put this back in the car. 243 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 2: Delete your playlist created a new one. 244 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Good morning, folks. 245 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: It is Abdul Jerry Lopez in for Kendall and Casey 246 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: this morning here on ninety three wobously. Lots of stuff 247 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: we're going to get to on the program today when 248 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: start with Hailey Busby story in the Napolis Star. Fisher's 249 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: Mayor Scott Fatness and the police chief they just had 250 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: a news conference. We'll have that for you some of 251 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: that audio for you a little bit later this morning. 252 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: But according to the Napolis Star, Fisher's police have confirmed 253 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: that missing seven year old Hailey Busby is dead. Tyler Thomas, 254 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: aged thirty nine, is in custody in Ohio in connection 255 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: with Buzby's disappearance. Police believe that Thomas picked up Busby 256 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: after they met through online gaming. Thomas faces charges of 257 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: pandering sexually oriented material involved in a minor and tampering 258 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: with evidence. 259 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 3: So just a quick recap. Buzzby's parents last saw. 260 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: Their daughter, a seventeen year old, at Hamilton Southeastern High School, 261 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: at ten o'clock on January fifth, so that's been almost 262 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: a month since Haley has disappeared. On February one, please 263 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: say that Busby had allegedly been picked up by Tyler Thomas, 264 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: the Ohio man she met through online gaming. Thomas, thirty nine, 265 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: of the Victorian Village neighborhood in Columbus, Ohio, is being 266 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: held in the Franklin County jail and the schedule for 267 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: a hearing on months is scheduled for a hearing today 268 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: and a Franklin County court for pandering sexually oriented material 269 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: involving a minor and tampering with evidence in connected with 270 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,559 Speaker 1: Busby's disappearance. Police spoke to Thomas in a few days 271 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: of buzzby disappearance when he claimed to have dropped Busby 272 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: off on the side of the road in western Ohio. 273 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: Please determine that saintment was untrue according to police reports, 274 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: and worked with law enforcement and partners in Ohio Sir 275 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: Thomas's home and vehicle on investigators found that Busby has found. 276 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: Busby had been at Thomas's home in Columbus and a 277 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: short term rental in Haky, Ohio, and evidence collected in 278 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: addition to statements by Thomas let investigators to the conclusion 279 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: that Busby was dead. Court records stated that Thomas picked 280 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: a Busby in the early morning of January sixth, and 281 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: the child sexual abuse material containing funto images and the 282 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: video of the missing juvenile girl were found on digital 283 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: devices belonged to Thomas due to war in search of 284 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: his home on Hunter Avenue on January twenty First, a 285 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: video of the missing juvenile was also located in to 286 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 1: file that Thomas leaded at. 287 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 3: Court record state. 288 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: Okay, number things, everyone, Number one, this is totally wrong, 289 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: totally unsceptable. And and yes, mister Thomas is entitled to 290 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: do to due process. And I'm a firm believer that 291 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: even the worst offenders aren't tired to do process. But 292 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: once they've had the due process, then we throw the 293 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: book at him. But Jerry, I'm amazed at how people 294 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: think that deleting something from your telephone will make it 295 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: go away. 296 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 2: Right, there's always a trail. But I but this takes 297 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 2: me back. So I have four girls, and I think 298 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 2: we focus on them when things like this happen, but 299 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 2: it happens to boys as well. But I think this 300 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 2: is a very good example of as a parent, and 301 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 2: I have kids of all ages, so twenty three all 302 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 2: the way down to seven. Who cares about your privacy? 303 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 2: My job is to keep you safe. So whether you're 304 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 2: a seventeen year old girl or a fourteen year old boy, 305 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 2: I need to know what your online activity is and 306 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 2: how many times have you heard the name roadblocks? When 307 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 2: it comes to situations like this where people are meeting people. 308 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 2: You need to be aware for your kids to get 309 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 2: and my kids play roadblocks and there's a chance we 310 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 2: haven't heard anything, but they did say online gaming, and 311 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 2: she wouldn't be the first seventeen year old to be 312 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 2: on roadblocks. 313 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. 314 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: And the other thing too, is are remind people because 315 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: my parents had the exact same rule, which is right, 316 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: you close your bedroom door like this might bedroom like, no, 317 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: it's not. 318 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 3: This is our house. 319 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: You're just basically living here red free and in the 320 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: process you have absolutely no privacy whatsoever, your Fourth Amendment rights, 321 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: your sixth Minen rights, the whole Bill of rights saying 322 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: forget that you have no free speech in this house period. 323 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 3: And I think, like I said, and. 324 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: Not to detigrate the parents because this is a loss, 325 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: but it's just a reminder, ladies and gentlemen. In my opinion, 326 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: it is a reminder that in the twenty first century, 327 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: in the digital error where basically anything in everybody's information 328 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: is now publishable and it's easy to locate people these days, 329 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: you just got to step up and know maybe now's 330 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,239 Speaker 1: the time to have the conversation, you know, with your teenagers, 331 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: like hey, look, we're not trying to pry. We give 332 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: you a little bit of privacy, but we wanted to 333 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: make sure that you're okay. 334 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 2: Who cares if I'm trying to pry. I don't even 335 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 2: care if you get privacy, because here's the reality. When 336 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 2: you're seventeen, when you turn twenty five, you realize, holy 337 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 2: my parents were right. 338 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 3: So I just got to get you there. 339 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 2: If I can get you old enough to where you 340 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 2: figure out I'm right, then I'm good. When I was 341 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 2: growing up, it was don't talk to the stranger in 342 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 2: the car, And now that stranger is in your pocket 343 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 2: whenever they want to be. 344 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: And the other thing too, is our remind people that 345 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: the whole concept of stranger danger is is misinterpreted because 346 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: it is not the stranger. Usually nine to ten times, 347 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: if kids are going to be attacked sexually, it's going 348 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: to be by somebody that they know, because you got 349 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: to build up that relationship, you know, with the person 350 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: in order to get that close and do those types 351 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: of things. That's why it's the line about grooming is 352 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: it never happens right away. You know that the child snatching, 353 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: Yes it does happen, but. 354 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 3: That is rarely. 355 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: It is rarely the case, if you want to find 356 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: the sex offender, look in your family photo album, because unfortunately, 357 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: that's where the sex offender is probably going to be. 358 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: And even in the case of Tyler Thomas and Hailey Buzby, 359 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: he built up a relationship through online gaming, plain and simple, 360 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: and that's why you got it. 361 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 3: You got to monitor what your kids are doing. 362 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: Now with my own SOB when he was a teenager, like, look, 363 00:15:58,120 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: I will give you as much privacy as I think 364 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: you've earned, plain and simple, but anything you do that's 365 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: going to impact our household, no privacy whatso whatsoever. 366 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's just me thinking out. 367 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 2: Loud, and I think that's fair, and I think it's sad. Right, 368 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 2: this is a seventeen year old girl who's lost her 369 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 2: life from some sicko, weirdo grown man thirty nine years old, 370 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 2: came from Ohio. By all accounts, we don't know anything 371 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 2: about the family, but I'm gonna assume they're a great 372 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 2: family and their daughter got caught up in something unfortunate. 373 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 2: But now multiple people's lives have been changed because you know, 374 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 2: somebody was nefarious online gaming. 375 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, And the thing about too is the fact that 376 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: this guy is Franklin County, Ohio, which is Columbus. They 377 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: have a couple of nieces who lived there because they 378 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: go to Ohio State University. One's working on a PhD. 379 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: The other one's working on a master's degree. So it's like, Okay, 380 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: you just got to call him to hate everything. Okay, 381 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: everything good. Just check it just to make sure that 382 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: you're all good here now. Grant you guys are pretty 383 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: pretty street smart. I respect that, but even sometimes the 384 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: best of us could get taken in. But luckily my 385 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: nieces are big online gamers anyway, So it is what 386 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 1: time is it nine nine here on ninety three WBC. 387 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: It is Abdul and Jerry Lopez in the Spanglish on 388 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: Twitter for him, att Y on Twitter for me. We're 389 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 1: filling in for Kendall and Casey today when we come back. 390 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 1: Lots of other stuff to chat about. And also I 391 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: want to say about ten o'clock, that's when it's go 392 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 1: abu to be a walkout at Hamilton Southeastern University, so 393 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: we kind of keep an eye on that as well. Oh, 394 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: by the way, Jared, I think I found ou where 395 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: I want to take my wife for vacation next year. 396 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 2: Okay't wait to hear about it. Antarctica all right, lots 397 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 2: of snoice level there. 398 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: Lots of penguins too. You're listening to ninety three WIBC. 399 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 3: Little Smash You Pumpkins. 400 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 1: By the way, a little bit later this morning, Kevin, 401 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: we have to play Butterfly Wings. Despite all my rage, 402 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: I'm still just to rat in a cage. 403 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 4: Oh, I would play that whole album music. 404 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: By the way, You know what that a song actually means, 405 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: don't you when say, despite all your rage, you're still 406 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: just to rat in the cage. 407 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 4: No, I actually haven't looked into the background of it. 408 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: As angry and as upsets people can get, it doesn't 409 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: really matter. 410 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 3: They're still just to rat in the cage. 411 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 2: It was. 412 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 3: It was a thing for the nineteen nineties, so God 413 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 3: bless him, Erica. 414 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: The funny thing is, though, Jerry, and by the way, 415 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: it's a duel Jerry Lopez in for Kendlyn Casey on 416 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 1: the program today. Always good to be here. The interesting 417 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 1: about about the nineteen nineties were we gen x. We're 418 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 1: all these angst written blah blah blah. We just don't care. 419 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: It's called not my problem. I don't give a rat 420 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: spear in. Actually I had another four letter word i'd use, 421 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: but we're on the FCC. We can say it for 422 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: the podcast, but I say for this radio show today. 423 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 2: There it is. Sometimes I have to explain to my 424 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 2: kids that my parents still loved me even though they 425 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 2: didn't know where I was. 426 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 3: I found just put in a tracker, just being up 427 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 3: before the lights come on. 428 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: Well, the street lights come on, that's it, which in 429 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 1: the summertime was great because the summertime later you say 430 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: up to like nine o'clock at night, But in the 431 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: winter time you're in at. 432 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 2: Four scatter like roaches. Those lights come on the whole 433 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 2: street empties. 434 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: And when I lived in Germany from eighty six to 435 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: ninety so, my dad was in the military and I 436 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: went to college here for a few years. When I 437 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: was home in the summertime, my dad would like tell 438 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: my little brothers, say, you guys can stay out till 439 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 1: the street lights come on. But the streetlights has come 440 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: on to like nine thirty ten o'clock at night because 441 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: you're so far north, like being in Seattle, Ormain. But 442 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: in the winter time it got darker, like three o'clock 443 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: in the afternoon. It's like sorry, boys, get your butts 444 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: in the house. Just just throwing in there. You're listening 445 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: to Kendle and Casey here on ninety three WIBC. 446 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 3: It is Abdul. We're going to have some. 447 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: Audio for you from Fisher's Mayor Scott Fatness in a 448 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: little bit as Kevin pulled some of that audio up together. Also, though, 449 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: the walkout that was scheduled for today at Hamilton Southeastern, 450 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: Jerry told me during the breakley was canceled. 451 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just got an update said no walkout at 452 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 2: HSSE today. And for those of you that don't know, 453 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 2: we got a quick update national school walkouts. This is 454 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 2: all local. This is February first through February sixth. I'm 455 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 2: just gonna tell you some main names here at Fishers, 456 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 2: you had Fisher's High School, HSSE, Mount Vernon, Greenfield Central, 457 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 2: you had North Central Park two toor Franklin Central for 458 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 2: buff Jesuit Ball State University, New pal Noblesville, Zionsville High School, 459 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 2: Perdue University, and Westfield High School. So I mean that's 460 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 2: three of the four big cities at Hamlin and County 461 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 2: are planning walkouts. Carmel had a walk out last week, 462 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 2: but HSSE just canceled theirs. They're going to reschedule because 463 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 2: of the information about Hayley's death. She was one of 464 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 2: their students. The principal, superintendent, and the board president have 465 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 2: all issued statements, but there is another statement that's been 466 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 2: issued and it's pretty heinous. This has been posted by 467 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 2: full Heart for HSSE Schools. Looked it up online. It's controlled, 468 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 2: it says here by Michelle Fulhart, former member of hsc's 469 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 2: school board twenty fifteen to twenty twenty three. So this 470 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 2: is a long time. This is what she posted. I 471 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 2: want to hear your response to this. She said, I'm 472 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 2: devastated by the news from Fisher's Police Department that they 473 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 2: believe Haley's decease and ask that you hold her family 474 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 2: and the HSSE community in prayers. Please sign this Pacific 475 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 2: petition to bring about a pink alert system for cases 476 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 2: like Haley and mandatory predator awareness education to children so 477 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 2: that they learn the dangers of online in real life groomers. 478 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 2: Pretty good stuff, pretty standard. Now, this is where she 479 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 2: goes off the rails, even though we've been told time 480 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 2: and time again by elected officials and others in Indiana 481 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 2: that it's immigrants drag queens, transgender folks, and even the 482 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 2: books in the public library that are grooming our children 483 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 2: and perpetuate evil on our society. The suspect as a 484 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 2: white male, as are all the men associated with Jeffrey 485 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 2: Epstein and his sex trafficking ring. You could have just 486 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 2: left the whole last pair of graph out. 487 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: Yes, there's a line. You don't sell past the clothes, 488 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: and that's what you don't do. Now, please note this person, 489 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 1: what was your name again? 490 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 2: Is it says it's ran by Michelle Fullhart. This is 491 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 2: full Heart for HS Schools. 492 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 1: Now. 493 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 3: She was a former school board member. 494 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 2: From twenty fifteen to twenty twenty three. 495 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: So she's not on the current school board for right now, 496 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 1: not speaking for the current school board. So let's just 497 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 1: make that perfectly clear before. 498 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 2: Former member for a former school board member. 499 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: Just so people don't start yelling and screaming, clogging the 500 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: line you're trying to induct it like no, no, no, no, 501 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: former school board member to speaking her capacity as a 502 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: private as a private citizen, I would say, there's a 503 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: time and place for politics. This is not the time 504 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: nor the place. You can say whatever you want about 505 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: the Epstein files and blah blah blah blah and all 506 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: the other stuff, which is fine, however, not right now. 507 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 1: Just give it, give it twenty four hours and change 508 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 1: before you start going down that before you start going 509 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: down going down that road. Now, on the flip side 510 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: of that, though, God no, you and I were kind 511 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: of talked online over the weekend. 512 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 3: The protests didn't bother me. 513 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 2: I want to get into this because you know what, 514 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 2: as a as a first generation American whose family is 515 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 2: from Cuba, the protest bothered the heck out of me. 516 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 2: As a It seems very misinformed, and I respect your 517 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 2: right to protest. 518 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, as a Now, whether people are in formal 519 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: or misinformed, that's totally on on them, because when you 520 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: exercise your first man right, so you don't have a 521 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: right to be you don't necessarily have to be right, 522 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: but just can't defame people, as some people are finding 523 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 1: out the hard way. And in my own personal universe, 524 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 1: you can say whatever you want, say Abdul's and ask 525 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: blah blah, but you can't call me a child bleuster. 526 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: You can't do that as someone's finding out the hard way. However, 527 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: though I think the protests would have actually been a 528 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: teachable moment. And here's why I say this, it would 529 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: have been a teachable moment. I love to get your 530 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 1: thoughts on this. It's like, Okay, you guys want to protest, 531 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: what's going on? Fine, Now here's the quest uestion, what 532 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: do you do after the protests? What do you what 533 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: do you do afterwards? Anybody can hold a march to 534 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: a rally, you know that's that's fine. But the question 535 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: is what do you do after that march, after that 536 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: protest rally is over? What what changes do you decide 537 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: to make? How many guys are going to be eighteen 538 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: years old this year? Are you ready sar to vote? 539 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: Do you find do you have a candid that you like? 540 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: Let's say Republican, Democrat, communist, anarchists, don't don't care. You've 541 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: got you got to write your political opinion as long 542 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: as you don't take stuff from other people U with 543 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: the use of force. But for me, the issue is 544 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: what do you What are you guys going to do 545 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: after the protest is over? 546 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 3: What are what are sort of your next your next steps. 547 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: It reminds me of It reminds me of Bonty Python 548 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: and the life of Brian the g GA people's front 549 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 1: when they're like, you know, when they're sitting around the 550 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 1: table half of the meeting, like okay, so what are 551 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: you guys going to do? 552 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 3: Now you have the meeting? 553 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: You called everything to order, Okay, now what now? 554 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 2: What I mean my point of view, I understand the 555 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 2: legality that you want to argue, and I'm I don't 556 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 2: do that for a living right. So I will give 557 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 2: you that. But what I do is is try to 558 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 2: open up people's eyes to how fortunate we are to 559 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 2: live in this country. And while you have a right 560 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 2: to protest, I don't think during school time is the 561 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 2: appropriate time to do that. Unless you're gonna tell me 562 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 2: our kids are reading at such a great level and 563 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 2: their math skills are so off the chart that we 564 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 2: can take time out of class to go out here 565 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 2: and talk about social issues, then i'll give you that. 566 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 2: But I don't think that's the case. I think a 567 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 2: lot of our kids are struggling and we're falling behind. 568 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 2: That's why we're bringing in all these outside workers to 569 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 2: replace the American workforce. Our children have been dumbed down, 570 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 2: and we are responsible for that. 571 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: You see, I don't think children are dumb down I 572 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: think children learn differently. For example, take hundred years ago 573 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: and some change. When my grandfather worked in a factory, 574 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: I did it was a strong back and a good 575 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: work ethic to lift the box and character to the 576 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 1: end of loading dot. Then twenty years later somebody built 577 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,239 Speaker 1: somebody built a fork left sure, and then twenty five 578 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: years later somebody built a crane. And then twenty five 579 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: years later somebody can now control a crane room and 580 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,239 Speaker 1: press a bunch of buttons and move boxes all all 581 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: over the place. So what I would argue, my friend, 582 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: is that the nature of work has been changed, just 583 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: like just like now the new AI is a big 584 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: is a big issue. Is a big is a big 585 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: deal because now I can have AI put together a 586 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: legal brief and it SHARE's me the trouble higher a 587 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: law clerk. So I don't think necessarily is. 588 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 2: That dumbing down or is that loss of skill due 589 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 2: to technology. 590 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: I don't think it's dumbing down. I think it's I 591 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: think it's it's a better way. It's it's it improves 592 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: your skill set, it's it's a different type of skill set. 593 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 2: Have you ever given somebody change after they've already put 594 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 2: it in at the gas station, like nah, and they 595 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 2: gave you like if you get three cents and you're like, oh, 596 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 2: here's two more opinions, and they stand there and just 597 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 2: look at you, super confused, instead of just giving you 598 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 2: the nickel. That's what I mean by like the dumbing down. Right. 599 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 2: So I think these kids, I think their hearts are 600 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 2: in the right place. I think they that they do 601 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 2: want to see change in this country. I think, and 602 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 2: maybe we'll get to speak to somebody later. I know 603 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 2: we were trying to work on somebody. But her email 604 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 2: is literally like abolish Ice. And it's like, that's a 605 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 2: fair interesting take to have. If you want to say 606 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 2: that we need to be more stringent and they need 607 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,719 Speaker 2: to not cover their faces, and we need to have 608 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 2: more warrants and even though these people are leegal, they 609 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 2: have a right to do process. Okay, those are conversations. 610 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 2: But to say abolish ICE, that's super aggress that's super aggressive. 611 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: To be abologized is like to fund the police. Okay, 612 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: let's let's be for. 613 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 2: Real here, Let's have an honest conversation. 614 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: Let's have an honest conversation. I'm not a big fan 615 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: of ICE. What ICE is doing right now? But I 616 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: don't think I should be abolished performed. Yes, abolished. No, 617 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: it is nine five here on ninety three w IBC. 618 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: It is Abdul is Jerry Spegel and for Kendil and Casey, 619 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Good morning. It's Abdul. It's Jerry 620 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: Lopez here on ninety three WIBC and for Kendall and Casey. Today. 621 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: By way, mister spanglish, not everybody is happy to have 622 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:55,479 Speaker 1: us here today. 623 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 2: It definitely seems to me like you got some haters, Abduel. Yes, 624 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 2: all I say is, hey, I'm in today. This random lead. 625 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 2: I don't get to come on very often. When I do. Listen, 626 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 2: here's the fact a little inside baseball. Your boy doesn't 627 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 2: even have a badge to get into the new building. Okay, 628 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 2: so when I pulled up, that's I'm kind of like 629 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 2: the FNNG right, the new guy. So I'm outside. I 630 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 2: think I texted you. I called Kevin. I'm like, hey, 631 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 2: can somebody let me in? So whenever I get to 632 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 2: come in here, it's a treat. And I put on Facebook. 633 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 2: Hey man, I'm in the building, and people are not 634 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 2: happy to see your name on there. 635 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 1: Apparently, Susan Baker Brandon is not apparently, because here's what 636 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: you're run on is Facebook page Surprise Surprise, Join me 637 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: now at ninety three point one WBCFM as Abdul, Kim 638 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: Shabaz and I host the Kendall and Casey Show this 639 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: morning from nine to twelve, and so you get the 640 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: usual comments. But Susan Baker Brandon basically says, I would 641 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: but your host and she has the emoji with the 642 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 1: green vomit throwing out of his mouth, and so you 643 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: know me, I can't let anything, just sit by and 644 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: just let it go, even though I'm working to fix that. 645 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: Susan Baker Brandon, I said, don't hate to Why would 646 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: you not want to listen to ideas or opinions that 647 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: disagree with yours? Because that's how we become better people. 648 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 2: We don't do that anymore, Abdul. 649 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: We have a debate, we have a discussion. We don't 650 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: make it personal. We put things in the crucipul of ideas, 651 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: and then eventually we try to reach some sort of 652 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: conclusion or we disagree to disagree. 653 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 3: It's that simple. 654 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: But God forbid, we should have an intelligent discussion on Facebook. 655 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 2: Well, I think I've never seen anybody on Facebook like, man, 656 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 2: you changed my mind just now. Not once have I seen. 657 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 2: Like there's a lot of good things, but most people 658 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 2: are dug in. They don't want to hear the other 659 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,239 Speaker 2: side of the coin. Regardless, I am talking so that 660 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 2: you hear me. I am. I'm not in this conversation 661 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 2: to learn anything or to debate ideas. I want to 662 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 2: change your mind. And I think that if we all 663 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 2: talk like as Americans, I mean, the options and elections 664 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 2: are so polarized, right, I always say, when it was 665 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 2: Trump versus Hillary, really that was Trump versus Bernie. Bernie 666 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 2: got screwed at convention, so at that point you have 667 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 2: the monopoly man and so right. And I think that 668 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 2: if we all just talked, we're more just left or 669 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 2: right of the center. We may disagree on a couple 670 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 2: three four fundamental things, but we're not as a part 671 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 2: as we think we are. 672 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: No, no, we're not. And the thing is most normal 673 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: people aren't. But most normal people don't get all the attention. 674 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: It's a yelling shot into screaming. It's like, okay, and understand, 675 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: we're in the entertainment business. And I get all that, 676 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: which I totally understand and grant, yes, I have a case. 677 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: You written some things on Facebook on social media just 678 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: started to start start started start. 679 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 3: An elevated discussion, let's put it that way. 680 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: But this whole thing right like a right war in 681 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: piece and a manifesto like the unibomber and all caps. 682 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: It's like, no, save it for somebody who actually cares. 683 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: Just call me crazy. It is nine fifty four here 684 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: on ninety three doub BIBC. When we come back, we've 685 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: got a couple of things we're going to be chatting about, 686 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: particularly marijuana at the state House not being used at 687 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: the state House, even though we've seen some of the bills. 688 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: Those guys that put out you think somebody was on 689 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: something a lot stronger than marijuana, believe you me. But 690 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: as most of the country is moving forward with marijuana, 691 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: either legalization or decriminalization, and you have seems to be 692 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: rolling the clock back, which I don't understand, particularly how 693 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,959 Speaker 1: Indiana's in a nutshell. Basically, what no one is more 694 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: than an hour and a half drive away from legal 695 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: pot in this state, whether you're talking about Illinois, Ohio, Michigan, 696 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: or Kentucky. So we'll have that conversation. When we come back, 697 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: it is Abdul, it is Jerry Lopez. We are in 698 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: for Kendln Casey here on ninety three w IBC