1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 1: Live from the Heart Band and the Crossroads of America. 2 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: It's Tony Cats today. So Trump cancels the meeting with China. 3 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: It's a big deal, kids, It's a big deal. Tony Kats, 4 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. Good to be with You find everything 5 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 1: at Tony Katz dot com. 6 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: You should that's what you should do. Go there immediately. 7 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 3: The live stream on YouTube is where you find it. 8 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 3: First things first, though, you have President Trump not getting 9 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 3: the Nobel Prize. Not getting the Nobel Prize means well, 10 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 3: somebody's to blame. Who would get the Nobel Prize if 11 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 3: not Trump? You got peace in the Middle East. First, 12 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 3: we all understand we don't have peace in the Middle East. 13 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 3: We have the opportunity for peace in the Middle East. 14 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 3: That's what we have. And I like the opportunity. Don't 15 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 3: get me wrong. I think it's fantastic. And when I 16 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 3: say opportunity, no, I don't actually believe there's an opportunity 17 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 3: to have peace with the mass I believe it is impossible. 18 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 3: But you can get the hostages back and dang it, 19 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 3: I'll take it. So will all rational people. They will 20 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 3: take it. Nobody else was getting this done. Nobody else, 21 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 3: even tried to get this done right. It's History of 22 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 3: the World Part one. Did you BS this week? 23 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 4: No? 24 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 2: Did you try to BS this week? Yes? 25 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 3: Trump's the guy trying. And I go back to his 26 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 3: speech at the United Nations, which this was a great line. 27 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 3: I'm doing this, I'm doing that. The issue in Africa here, 28 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 3: the issue over here, what I'm trying to do with 29 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,839 Speaker 3: Ukrain in Russia? What do you people do all day? 30 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 3: Not a one of you even called to say, hey, 31 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 3: you need any help. You don't care. None of you 32 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 3: are in the peace game. You're in the calling Israel 33 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 3: genocidal game. You're in the hating Western civilization game. 34 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 2: And take it our money. 35 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 3: If there was ever a moment in time to say 36 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 3: we don't need the United Nations right now, is indeed 37 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 3: one of those moments. Good gosh. The Nobel Prize, one 38 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 3: would have thought would go to Trump for the work. 39 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 2: It did not. It went to a woman in Venezuela. 40 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 3: Now be clear, there are people doing good things out 41 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 3: there who aren't named Donald Trump. 42 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 2: Maria Corina. It's Maria Carina. 43 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 3: Oh God, Makado m accha d O has been fighting 44 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 3: the Maduro regime, has been trying to create a valuable venezuela, 45 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 3: which is a very difficult thing to do when you've 46 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 3: got Nicholas Maduro breathing down your neck and. 47 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 2: Trying to rip you apart. She is the woman who 48 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: got the Nobel Peace Prize. Is she worthy? Is she 49 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 2: not worthy? I don't I don't know. It's the Nobel 50 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: Peace Prize. 51 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 3: They gave this thing to Yasir Arafat, Who the bloody 52 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 3: heck wants it? 53 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: Who possibly could want that? 54 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 3: Yochser Arafat is a Nobel Peace Prize winner, dear Lord, 55 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 3: But the awards do matter. 56 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 2: Remember they gave this award to Barack Obama in two 57 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 2: thousand and nine. He never did anything. 58 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 3: The world is not safer because Barack Obama sat in 59 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 3: the Oval Office for eight years. It is not safer. 60 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 3: You can't say the same thing about Donald Trump. Their 61 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 3: argument is, you know the announcement about Gaza and Israel 62 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 3: that came out on a Wednesday, and we made our 63 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 3: decision on Monday. 64 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 2: Just missed it. 65 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, fantastic, terrific. I don't know if this woman 66 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 3: is a good person or a bad person. If I 67 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 3: had read the information right, she was very appreciative of 68 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 3: President Trump and sharing this with him. 69 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 2: Because he's on the side of peace. You got a 70 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 2: whole bunch of people saying that. 71 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 3: She's a very very fine choice because pushing against Maduro 72 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 3: is a good thing to be doing. 73 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: This is something that should be happening. I know people 74 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 2: are going to be. 75 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 3: Upset about it. Thirty of my money was on Gretaitundberg. 76 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 3: Why would I have ever assumed, ever that the Nobel 77 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 3: Committee would do something like given award to Trump and 78 00:05:53,640 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 3: engage with him a level of legitimacy. I would never 79 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 3: have made that assumption, and I can't believe you would 80 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 3: have made that assumption either. But here we are no 81 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 3: no bell for Trump. Maybe next year we will see 82 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 3: what we will see. What we will see. It doesn't 83 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: mean that the woman who wont it is necessarily a 84 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 3: bad person. 85 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, we have got issues with China that is coming up. 86 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 2: Keep it here. I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz. Today. 87 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 2: Some very strange things are happening in China. 88 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,799 Speaker 3: Those the words of President Trump saying on True's social quote. 89 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 2: They are becoming very hostile. 90 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 3: And sending letters to countries throughout the world that they 91 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 3: want to impose export controls on each and every element 92 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 3: of production having to do with rare earths and virtually 93 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 3: anything else they can think of, even if it's not 94 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 3: manufactured in China. And with that, President Trump says, well, 95 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 3: we're supposed to meet in South Korea in two weeks. 96 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 2: But I don't think there's a he's going to do 97 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 2: so now. 98 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 3: And the market then dropped five hundred points and the 99 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 3: gold price shot up, because well, this is instability, but 100 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 3: there is a foreign policy conversation to be had in 101 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 3: this instability. Tony Kats, Tony Kats today, Good to be 102 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 3: with you. Chuck de Board joins me right now. He 103 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 3: is the Chief National Initiatives Officer at the Texas Public 104 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 3: Policy Foundation Texas policy dot Com. Served in the California 105 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 3: Assembly and served in the Reagan era Pentagon. People are 106 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 3: going to look at this as an economic conversation. I'm 107 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 3: telling you this is in no way simply an economics conversation. 108 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 3: This is all breaking today. You hear this information, Uh, Chuck, 109 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 3: what does it say to you? 110 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 5: Well, there's a couple of things going on. I mean, 111 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 5: first of all, it's very important to understand that the 112 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 5: People's Republic of China and the Chinese Communist Party is 113 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 5: pursuing a mercantilist, creditory capitalist model, so at the very 114 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 5: least from an economics standpoint, what China has methodically done 115 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 5: is it has seized certain key portions of the supply chain, 116 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 5: without which not only the United States but the entire 117 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 5: world can't operate. And the way it does that with 118 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 5: rare earth is to make sure that it controls all 119 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 5: of the rare earth refining. Rare earths aren't really as 120 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 5: rare as the name would imply. They're all over the place. 121 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 5: The challenge is it's difficult to dig them out of 122 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 5: the ground with economically viable concentrations and then refine it. 123 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 5: It's actually the refining, which is very dirty, energy intensive difficult. 124 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 5: We don't do much of that in America because China 125 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 5: has undercut our prices so that they can control the 126 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 5: entire supply chain. These things are important for magnets, they're 127 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 5: important for sensors used for high tech military defense articles. 128 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 5: You really can't have either a modern economy or a 129 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 5: modern military without rare earth, and China controls the rare earth. 130 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 3: The control aspect, though the adding the controls to that 131 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 3: is not specifically to an economic advantage. We have been 132 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 3: hearing that this is to a geopolitical advantage. Trying to 133 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 3: increase things now so when they do meet, Hey, we 134 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 3: can make a trade deal with this. China saying we 135 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 3: can make a trade deal with that, but maybe you 136 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 3: could do us a favor and stop paying attention to 137 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 3: Taiwan so much in their defense. Is a lot of 138 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 3: this maneuver to try, as the Wall Street Journal had 139 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 3: written the story, to get the United States to back 140 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 3: off defending Taiwan so China can have its reunification policy 141 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 3: without question. 142 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, they I think China sees an opening right now, 143 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 5: and they see an opening for a number of reasons. 144 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 5: First of all, they have engaged in an unprecedented military 145 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 5: build up, unprecedented in modern history, mostly because if hither 146 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 5: had a bigger economy under Germany, perhaps They're build up 147 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 5: up in the nineteen thirties would be the largest. But 148 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 5: because China's economy is so giant, their military build up 149 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 5: has actually eclipsed what Hitler was able to do in 150 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 5: the late nineteen thirties. It is truly unprecedented, and what's 151 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 5: important for America, a huge amount of that buildup has 152 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 5: been with the Navy, not army or air force strength, 153 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 5: but the Navy. And that's a direct threat to US 154 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 5: interests in the Indo Pacific and really globally. So that's 155 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 5: number one they have this huge build up. Number two 156 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 5: is that America because of the weakness under both Obama 157 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 5: and Biden and the fact that it takes a while 158 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 5: to turn this defense ship around or the Department of 159 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 5: Wars it's now properly been renamed. There is some people 160 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 5: around Trump who think that we don't have enough military 161 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 5: force to be able to defend Taiwan. And on top 162 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 5: of that, the Taiwanese themselves have been pretty lackadaisical about 163 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 5: their They don't really put a lot of their GDP 164 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 5: into defense, and some of it is because they're only 165 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 5: ninety miles away from China at the narrowest park point 166 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 5: and have a divided government. The Gomendang, the old Nationalist Party, 167 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 5: controls the legislature in Taiwan, and they are very reluctant 168 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 5: right now to increase defense spending because the Gomundang is 169 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 5: corrupt and they look to Beijing to cut deals with 170 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 5: and to try to get rich off of. And so 171 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 5: Taiwan itself is divided, and so you have this feeling 172 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 5: that perhaps America's commitment to Taiwan is not as strong 173 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 5: as it could be. So you have a growing, strengthening 174 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 5: China and supposedly at least perceptionalize a weakening commitment to Taiwan. 175 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 5: So Shishinping thinks, well, you know, maybe maybe I can 176 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 5: pry Trump away from any commitment to Taiwan and we 177 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 5: can perhaps in air quotes, peacefully reunify with Taiwan because 178 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 5: America won't do anything about it. 179 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 3: Talking to Chuck to Vore of the Texas Public Policy Foundation, 180 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 3: find his work at Texas Policy dot com, I do 181 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 3: look at the geopolitical here, and I do think that 182 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 3: it that it matters this, this canceling of this, this 183 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 3: trip with China. Is it possible that, you know, with Trump, 184 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 3: he looks at everything as hey, if it's not going 185 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 3: to be on my terms, if it's not going to 186 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 3: be to to my bettering condition, I'm not interested in it. 187 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 3: How does China respond to this type of cancelation. 188 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 5: Well, certainly they're going to see if they can engage 189 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 5: in some sort of negotiation, right, They're going to you know, 190 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 5: certainly the drop in the stock market today is going 191 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 5: to get Trump's attention, is going to get the attention 192 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 5: of people around Trump who are in the business community. 193 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 5: People are going to say, gee, you know, this is 194 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 5: we don't refine these rare earths yet to pre Can 195 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 5: you make a deal? Can some sort of an arrangement 196 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 5: be had. The other thing, of course, is that Trump 197 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 5: has been trying to crack down on the Russian ghost 198 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 5: fleet and has been enacting secondary sanctions on people who 199 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 5: have been illegally buying Russian energy, mostly of course India, 200 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 5: and then you know, another target being China, because those 201 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 5: are the two countries that are buying the most Russian oil. 202 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 5: And so this is a way of fighting back. This 203 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 5: is a way of China fighting fire with fire and 204 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 5: showing Trump that America isn't the only country that holds 205 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 5: significant economic cards. And so they're trying to increase pain 206 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 5: to get what they want. And I think what they 207 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 5: want isn't merely you know, maybe it is simply more 208 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 5: favorable economic terms. But there's something about this round that 209 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 5: makes me think that this may be, as you speculate 210 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:57,599 Speaker 5: more about Taiwan than merely trying to even the the 211 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 5: you know, to shift the the terrain more in China's 212 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 5: favor on trade terms. So look, you know, the fact 213 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 5: of the matter is that October is one of the 214 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 5: best two months for invading time. 215 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 4: One. 216 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 5: It's that in April the weather in the Taiwan Straight 217 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 5: is usually pretty bad. Uh. And so October is a 218 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 5: is a good or better month than normal for military 219 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 5: operations in the Strait. And so you've got another couple 220 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 5: two or three weeks before that window starts to close. 221 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 3: Talking to Chuck to Vore the Texas Public Policy Foundation 222 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 3: before I let you go really quickly here. 223 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 2: I never got your thoughts on Pete hag Set, the 224 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 2: Secretary of War, and. 225 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 3: That conversation he had with the assembled generals and admirals 226 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 3: regarding standards of fitness. H he has removed another member 227 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 3: of the Navy's leadership because of a guy coming in 228 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 3: name of Hung kaw Oh, who ran for Senate in Virginia. 229 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 3: But on these moves and really on the idea of 230 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 3: these standards, did you think that the Secretary was on 231 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 3: point or. 232 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 2: Did you think that this meeting was much ado about nothing. 233 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 5: I think it was completely on point. Look, you know, 234 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 5: the enforcement of standards happens at the top and the 235 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 5: erosion of standards can happen very gradually over time. I 236 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 5: was a company commander back you know, in the early 237 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 5: nineteen nineties for three years, and back then, if you 238 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 5: didn't meet the heightened weight standards, you couldn't get promoted, 239 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 5: you couldn't go to any sort of special schools. Your 240 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 5: career was basically put on hold until you took care 241 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 5: of that heightened weight standard and you can pass the 242 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 5: physical training test. And you know, we've been seeing these photographs, 243 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 5: for example, a senior naval enlisted personnel who are oldbeeste 244 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 5: is they're getting promoted. And I look at that and 245 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 5: it's like, excuse me, really, we come to this point 246 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 5: where it looks like you can't even touch your toe 247 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 5: and you're getting promoted. That's unacceptable. And so how did 248 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 5: that happen? Right, Well, it happened under the watch of 249 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 5: the general officers, the admirals and the generals that were 250 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 5: assembled in that big room to listen to the Secretary 251 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 5: of War talk to them about standards. And so that's 252 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 5: exactly what's needed. You bring everyone together and you say, look, 253 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 5: we are serious about this, and if you don't want 254 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 5: to do this, you know, there's the door. You can 255 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 5: always resign your commission. Don't let the door hit you 256 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 5: on the ass on the way out. 257 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 6: But for those who. 258 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 5: Who want to join me in restoring the lethality of 259 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 5: our US military, then let's do it together as a team. 260 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 5: So I was inspired by it though. It was a 261 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 5: great talk, and you know, as a retired lieutenant colonel, 262 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 5: I was one hundred percent for it. 263 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 3: Seems that there are a lot of people who are 264 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 3: freaked out by the idea that our military should be 265 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 3: about lethality. That seems to it that seems to shock 266 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 3: some very very softer people's. 267 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 2: Senses that this is the this is its purpose. 268 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 3: The military has a purpose more than looking not so 269 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 3: good in a uniform. 270 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 5: Well absolutely, And you know, this again is something that's 271 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 5: been creeping into the military for decades. I remember in 272 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 5: the nineties when Bill Clinton was president and some of 273 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 5: the mandatory training that was beginning to creep into our 274 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 5: training calendar. They had nothing to do with lethality. I 275 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 5: had to do with things like, you know, sexual harassment 276 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 5: or you know, proper proper treatment. And it's like, excuse me, 277 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 5: this is like leadership one oh one. If you don't 278 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 5: treat your soldiers. Well, you're a bad leader, right, you 279 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 5: don't need these mandatory training sessions. And then Tony a 280 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 5: few years later, when I was due to be promoted 281 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 5: to major and I made the major's promotion board, my 282 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 5: promotion was then postponed by year. Why did that happen, Well, 283 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 5: it happened because some white male members of the Judge 284 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 5: Advocates were not promoted and they found out that the 285 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 5: under Clinton, that they had allowed gender and race to 286 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 5: creep into the selection process rather than merit, and they 287 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 5: sued and they won the lawsuit. And so what the military, 288 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 5: what the Army had to do was cancel the entire 289 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 5: promotion class to major for judge, affecate generals for military intelligence, 290 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 5: which is what my branch was, and for docs for doctors. 291 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 5: And they waited till the next year, where that they 292 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 5: could then include the officers who were of lower merit 293 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 5: that happened to be of the right sex and the 294 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 5: right race. Right, they included those people who were of 295 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 5: lower merit along with the people who would have been 296 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 5: promoted and combine them into one big promotion class the 297 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 5: next year. So it delayed my promotion to major by year. 298 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 5: This policy that focused on our immutable characteristics, how we 299 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 5: were born, right, what race or sex we were born into, 300 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 5: rather than our merit, which is all lethality cares about, 301 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 5: is merit. And so that was back around nineteen ninety 302 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 5: eight that it happened under Clinton. Right, So this has 303 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 5: been happening for a long time. And so the officers 304 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 5: that exsas that Secretary of War was addressing were precisely 305 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 5: those officers under whom this regime was enacted over the 306 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 5: last few decades. 307 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 3: Chuck DeVore, Texas Public Policy Foundation. I appreciate taking the 308 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 3: time to be with us. More is coming up. I'm 309 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 3: Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today. It's shut down 310 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 3: day ninety bajillion, and still. 311 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 2: No one cares, no one, no one, no one, Tony Katz, 312 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 2: Tony Katz today, Good to be with you. And I 313 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 2: read no Rothman. 314 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 3: Filling in for Jim Garrity over there a National Review. 315 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 3: Republicans are getting wobbly on the shutdown. The GOP is 316 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 3: letting Democrats win the shutdown. I don't quite understand where 317 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 3: this argument possibly exists. From John Thune, Senate Majority Leader, 318 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 3: Mike Johnson, Speaker of the House with a bit of 319 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 3: a presser today, unless, of course, it wants to have 320 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 3: no works an audience. 321 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 4: Shame all the Democrats for doing that. It is to 322 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 4: the American people. I mean, look at that. Really, every 323 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 4: day gets better for us. Every day gets better for us. 324 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 4: That's their thought about what this shutdown means. So shame 325 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 4: on the Democrats for what they're doing to the American people. 326 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 4: Republicans want our troops to get paid. We want our 327 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 4: traffic controllers to get paid, we want our TSA agents 328 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 4: to get paid. We want our border control agents to 329 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 4: get paid. And we have voted that way now in 330 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 4: the United States Senate seven times. 331 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 3: It was Chuck Schumer who said every day gets better 332 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 3: for us. And one of the things that we discussed 333 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 3: yesterday was it seems very clear that what Democrats are doing. 334 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 2: Is hoping. 335 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 3: That they can stretch this out to October fifteenth, so 336 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 3: a payday has not met, so they can say, look 337 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 3: at what these Republicans are doing. 338 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 2: And that's when the press. 339 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 3: Is going to jump on this and say, my gosh, 340 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 3: these Republicans. 341 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 2: Look what they're doing. Right. 342 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 3: The Democrats, their position is that the continuing resolution is 343 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 3: dirty partisan politics. 344 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 6: We have seen retire heracle movement from Republicans. When actions 345 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 6: speak louder than words, sort of. In mid to late September, 346 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 6: what we heard from Republicans was that they passed the 347 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 6: clean Continuing Resolution. 348 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 2: Of course they didn't. 349 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 6: It was a dirty partisan bill that continues to gut 350 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 6: the healthcare of the American people. Then they tried to 351 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 6: lie about the nature of the fight and pretend as 352 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 6: if Democrats were fighting for anyone other than everyday Americans, 353 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 6: working class Americans, and middle class Americans. But the country 354 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:42,239 Speaker 6: didn't buy it. Marjorie Taylor Green herself doesn't buy it. 355 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 6: She knows this fight is about hard working American taxpayers. 356 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 2: So then they moved off of that. 357 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 6: Lie, and earlier this week Republican leadership said we are 358 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 6: the party of health care, and all along we intended 359 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 6: to address the affordable text credits in October. Well, we're 360 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 6: in October. Democrats are here. We're ready, willing and able 361 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 6: to sit down with our Republican colleagues. 362 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 3: That's not what you mean. Ready to sit down is 363 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 3: a really dopey line. Your argument is do what we 364 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 3: want or we'll keep it shut down. And the answer 365 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 3: is okay, shut it down, go right ahead. But the 366 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 3: idea that somehow Republicans are losing this argument the subsidies 367 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 3: Sunset at the end of twenty twenty five has agreed 368 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 3: to buy the Democratic Party. They're the ones who voted 369 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 3: for it in the Inflation Reduction Act. Yet they go 370 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 3: out there and continue the same. Hey, let's not turn 371 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 3: down the temperature rhetoric. 372 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 6: Unfortunately, what we're dealing with right now in the United 373 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 6: States Congress is a group of people who we sometimes 374 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 6: say they go to church and they pray on Sunday, 375 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 6: but then they come to Washington, d C. And they 376 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 6: pray pt r e y on the American people for 377 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 6: the rest of the week. Pray on the poor, Pray 378 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 6: on the sick, Pray on the afflicted. 379 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 3: But I would give anything to see a Republican member 380 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 3: knows to know say who the hell do you think 381 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 3: you're talking to? 382 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 2: This is what is required. 383 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 3: The obscenity of that line, the grossness of this presentation. 384 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 3: It's the same thing we saw with him and Representative 385 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 3: Mike Lawler yesterday. The grossness, the tough guy bull nonsense 386 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 3: of it all. 387 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 2: This is nothing more than the. 388 00:24:54,800 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 3: Rebirth, the resurrection of the throwing Grandma off the cliff line. 389 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 3: Pray on Sunday, then pray on the American people. So 390 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 3: they're violent, they're vicious, and they don't believe in God. 391 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 3: You're attacking them as people and as Christians, because it's 392 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 3: a full on attack on Christianity. 393 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 2: And that requires a nose to knows. Just who the 394 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 2: hell do you think you're talking to? 395 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 3: No, no, no, you shut your mouth, Achem, you don't 396 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 3: talk to me like that. 397 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 2: You don't speak about people like that. And if this 398 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 2: has to get rough and tumble, acheme, so be it. 399 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 2: That's what he was doing yesterday with a finger pointing. 400 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 3: That's what a member has to do, right there, No 401 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 3: back down, screw him. Don't you understand that Americans look 402 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 3: at all y'all and say, what is wrong with you? 403 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 3: Could you imagine if this is how we handle disputes 404 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 3: with our neighbors, with our coworkers. 405 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 2: We couldn't get away with this. 406 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 3: We couldn't act like Hakeem Jeffries and get away with this. 407 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 2: Not for a. 408 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 3: Second you think you could do what he did to 409 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 3: Representative Lolad the Austraa. You think he could have that 410 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 3: conversation in the real world. He gets knocked out but 411 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 3: plenty of people just turn the other cheek. And more 412 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 3: than that, the vast majority of people would say, well, 413 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna get into a violent altercation with the dude. 414 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 3: I'm just not going to act like that to begin with. 415 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 3: I'm not going to present like that to begin with. 416 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 3: I wouldn't treat somebody like that to begin with. That's 417 00:26:53,080 --> 00:27:00,479 Speaker 3: the story. You don't treat people like that, do it. 418 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 3: Speaker Mike Johnson. 419 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 7: Chuck Schumer is hurting real Americans for his own political survival. 420 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 7: I'm gonna say that again, Chuck Schumer is hurting real 421 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 7: Americans for his own political survival. If you're a service 422 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 7: member who's not getting a paycheck, is because Chuck Schumer 423 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 7: has to appease the Marxist cutting. Simple, this, plain and simple. 424 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 7: Shame on you, Chuck. Every Senate Democrat who's going along 425 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 7: with this, you lack the moral fortitude to do the 426 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 7: right thing. This is the first time in history, the 427 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 7: first time in the history of the United States Congress, 428 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 7: that a party has shut down the government over a 429 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 7: clean cr We frankly didn't expect this. We sent over 430 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 7: a no Frill's twenty four page document to keep the 431 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 7: lights on, keep Congress working, keep the paychecks flowing, and 432 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 7: they stopped it because they're afraid of the far left. 433 00:27:52,320 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 2: And that's true, that is true. This is a fear play. 434 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 3: What I am noticing is what you're noticing. It's getting personal. 435 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 2: Now. 436 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 3: I'm telling you right now that a Keem Jeffries commentary 437 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 3: is disgusting. And I'm telling you right now Chuck Schumer 438 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 3: is going to appease the Marxists is a very very 439 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 3: from this speaker appointed line. 440 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,360 Speaker 2: The Speaker also said something else, I'm not. 441 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 3: Bringing the House back into the sentence of votes on 442 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 3: the clean cr. 443 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,959 Speaker 2: I'm not doing it until you guys open it back up. 444 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 3: I'm not bringing back the house. Don't ask nothing else 445 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 3: is going on, not happening. This is a politically good 446 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 3: idea in that I don't think you want everybody there 447 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 3: where they have to answer all these press questions. Make 448 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 3: it a little more difficult on them, and you also 449 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 3: don't get lulled into a false sense of security that way. 450 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 3: It also shows that hey, this is on you. Everything 451 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 3: gets back to work once. 452 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 2: You do your job. But it is clear that what. 453 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 3: Democrats are doing is waiting until the paychecks don't come 454 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 3: out and feeling they could put pressure. Then so they're 455 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 3: doing That's what they're doing. So this argument that Chuck 456 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 3: Schumer is playing with the lives of Americans to benefit 457 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 3: himself and to appease the Marxists who are all within 458 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 3: his party, I can prove that argument. I think the 459 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 3: Speaker has proven that argument as well. But Hakim Jeffries, 460 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 3: you pray on Sunday and you pray on the American people. 461 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 3: I think it is up to a member of Congress 462 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 3: to ask him who the hell he thinks he is. 463 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 3: I do now maybe the right answers. 464 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 2: You just ignore it. 465 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 3: They're losing, they're desperate, ugly, and they're showing it, and 466 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 3: you don't engage the confrontation because you don't want to 467 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 3: lose that level of control. Republicans getting wobbly. I don't 468 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 3: know about that. I don't know about that. And this 469 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 3: shouldn't get us into a conversation with Marjorie Taylor Green, 470 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,719 Speaker 3: which I will sum up quickly. If you find yourself 471 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 3: at all times agreeing with Marjorie Taylor Green, chances. 472 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 2: Are you doing it wrong. 473 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 3: And if you want to know why I'm not a populist, 474 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 3: you can start with Marjorie Taylor Green and you can 475 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 3: end with Josh Hawley that in conservatism. 476 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 2: Kids, I'll die on that hill. Keep it here. 477 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 3: I'm Tony Katz, and this is Tony Katz today. So 478 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 3: Barack Obama, you've seen pictures. He was President of the 479 00:30:54,880 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 3: United States, and he has thoughts. 480 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 2: About the deal. He has thoughts about peace. 481 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 3: That's what That's what Barack Obama has, Tony Katz, Tony 482 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 3: Kats today. 483 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 2: Good to be with you. 484 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 3: Writing after two years of unimaginable loss had suffered for 485 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 3: Israeli families and the people of Gaza. 486 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 2: We should all be encouraged and relieved that at an 487 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 2: end to the conflict is within. 488 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 3: Sight, that those hostages are still being held will be 489 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 3: reunited with their families, and that vital aid can start 490 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 3: reaching those inside Gaza whose lives have been shattered. More 491 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 3: than that, though, it now falls on Israelis and Palestinians, 492 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 3: with the support of the United States and the entire 493 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 3: world's community, to begin the hard task of rebuilding Gaza 494 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 3: and to commit to a process that, by recognizing the 495 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 3: common humanity and basic rights of both peoples, can achieve 496 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 3: a lasting peace. 497 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 2: No mention of Donald Trump. 498 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 3: Just Steve Woodcough, Jared Kushner, None, no, well done, No addaboy? 499 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 2: Now what did this just happen? Magically? This is? This 500 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 2: is Barack Obama. 501 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 3: Could not even say well done, could not say we 502 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 3: disagree on a great number of things, but well done, 503 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 3: mister President. Couldn't bring himself to do it, could not 504 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 3: say the words this is who these people are. Every 505 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:53,719 Speaker 3: day they show you, every day they put forth to 506 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 3: you the kind of people they are. You have thousands 507 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 3: of people marching towards northern gazas the ceasefire has a 508 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 3: taken effect. And while all of this is happening, you've 509 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 3: got the First Lady of the United States. 510 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 8: Good morning. A child's soul knows no borders, no flex 511 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 8: We must foster a future for our children which is 512 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 8: rich with potential security and complete with free will. Our 513 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 8: world where dreams will be realized rather than faded by war. 514 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 3: That's Melania Trump following up on her letter to Zelenski 515 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 3: and to Putin about the war in Ukraine and discussing 516 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 3: how she is continuing to try and reach President Putin 517 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 3: to reunite children. 518 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 2: Displaced by the war. 519 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 3: You can find Takim Jeffrey is as I do, reprehensible 520 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 3: and loathsome. You can find Chuck Schumer to be the 521 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 3: opportunist that he has always been. You can find the 522 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 3: Nobel Committee wrong for their decision on the Nobel Prize. 523 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 3: And I haven't heard anybody say that the woman who 524 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 3: won it, the Nobel Peace Prize, isn't actually worthy of it. 525 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,879 Speaker 3: You can be angered by these things and disappointed by 526 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 3: these things. You can allow these things to absolutely corrupt 527 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 3: you and let you seethe and the only thing you 528 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 3: focus on, or. 529 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 2: You could focus on the good work that needs to 530 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 2: be done. 531 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 3: Really interesting, the Democrats should say Barack Obama because many 532 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 3: Democrats CNN's and MSNBC's and others, have given Trump as 533 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,280 Speaker 3: due for making this happen, which if it just returns 534 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 3: the hostages Diana, it's enough. But there's Melania Trump not 535 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 3: saying why didn't you give my husband a Nobel Prize, saying, Hey, 536 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 3: these kids out there, I'm still thinking about them, and 537 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 3: I'm still pushing for this. Who wins the uplifting message 538 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 3: of the day, Barack Obama or Millennia Trump? 539 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought so. It's Tony Kats Today,