WEBVTT - Lanterns - “Lights Out” (S1, E5) 0:00:00.140 --> 0:00:02.640 The Frames Per Second Podcast. 0:00:07.820 --> 0:00:10.580 What's going on? It's your boy, Nick. I'm here with 0:00:11.060 --> 0:00:15.350 super producer, Jalen. How you doing, sir? I'm good, bro. 0:00:15.390 --> 0:00:15.530 You? 0:00:16.110 --> 0:00:17.090 I'm all right. I'm all right. 0:00:17.590 --> 0:00:19.989 I'm also here with I Am Spike Lu of the 0:00:20.130 --> 0:00:21.810 On Deck TV show and another week in the books. 0:00:21.829 --> 0:00:25.489 How you doing, man? What up, bro? And Kenneth B. Inge. 0:00:25.730 --> 0:00:27.360 How you doing, sir? Hola. 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:31.069 Good. And you're now tuning into the Frames for Second podcast. 0:00:31.230 --> 0:00:33.800 And in this episode, we are continuing on with our 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:38.779 weekly recaps of the hit HBO original series coming from 0:00:38.800 --> 0:00:43.690 the DC Universe titled Lanterns. With this recap being dedicated 0:00:43.700 --> 0:00:45.890 to episode five called Lights Out. 0:00:47.150 --> 0:00:50.720 We got three episodes left, I think. Am I right, Jay? 0:00:50.729 --> 0:00:54.900 Yeah. Yeah. Which is interesting because the way they ended this, 0:00:55.140 --> 0:00:56.020 we could walk away. 0:00:59.230 --> 0:01:00.590 Well, most of us. I don't know about how. 0:01:00.850 --> 0:01:04.010 But what were y'all overall thoughts on this episode? I'll 0:01:04.030 --> 0:01:05.149 start with you, Lou. 0:01:06.569 --> 0:01:07.490 Action packed, man. 0:01:07.610 --> 0:01:10.649 I feel like last week was maybe the worst episode 0:01:10.709 --> 0:01:11.800 and that wasn't bad either. 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:14.069 But this episode, it got right to it. 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:15.899 This felt like, you said, it felt like a season 0:01:15.940 --> 0:01:20.180 finale versus more so just a mid-season. But They did 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:22.620 pose more questions. I liked that they wrapped up some 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:26.100 of the storylines. Now I'm interested to see where they 0:01:26.140 --> 0:01:28.670 go with the whole Green Lantern thing. They did enough 0:01:28.700 --> 0:01:31.620 for me to get me engaged and interested in the story, 0:01:32.060 --> 0:01:34.790 not knowing any backstory or about Green Lantern. Now I'm 0:01:34.870 --> 0:01:37.530 interested in the story and the lore and the mythical 0:01:37.690 --> 0:01:39.610 shit of it that they get into for the rest 0:01:39.630 --> 0:01:40.150 of the season. 0:01:40.190 --> 0:01:45.590 So I'm here for it. What about you, Jay? 0:01:45.630 --> 0:01:48.820 Good episode, but What this episode told me is they 0:01:48.860 --> 0:01:50.940 must be got some fucking heat at the back end 0:01:50.980 --> 0:01:52.460 of this damn season, bro. 0:01:52.540 --> 0:01:53.280 It gotta be. 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:55.640 Because for you to drop this in the middle of 0:01:55.660 --> 0:02:01.410 the season, you got some shit coming. So yeah, Action 0:02:01.430 --> 0:02:05.490 Pack definitely was high octane as far as it kept moving. 0:02:07.410 --> 0:02:09.680 There was a couple of homies I wanted to talk 0:02:09.700 --> 0:02:12.340 to about some stuff that are more D.C. living, but 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:14.080 you know, niggas been watching football and shit. 0:02:14.660 --> 0:02:16.299 So, niggas ain't responding to me. 0:02:16.340 --> 0:02:18.460 You too, nigga. You niggas. 0:02:18.500 --> 0:02:21.800 Nigga, I watch the Saints and the Saints only. That's it, nigga. 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:22.799 It's football to me. 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:25.500 But Sunday Night Football was on and niggas was not 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:26.800 Cowboys and Giants. 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:28.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:31.340 He's not talking. But, yeah, man. 0:02:31.380 --> 0:02:34.480 This is a great episode. It hasn't been a bad 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:37.880 episode yet, which I'm appreciative of. But, again, it gets 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:39.580 kind of nervous because it's like, y'all have given me 0:02:39.660 --> 0:02:42.180 heat all the way up here and this is top 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:43.280 tier action. 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:45.800 Y'all got to keep going now. 0:02:47.380 --> 0:02:49.239 I will agree with Jalen. When this episode was over, 0:02:49.260 --> 0:02:50.720 I was like, how the fuck they going to top this? 0:02:51.500 --> 0:02:54.260 That's literally what I said. I was like, okay, where 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:55.040 they going with this? 0:02:55.660 --> 0:03:03.000 I think, Spike, if you had to rank the episodes, 0:03:03.100 --> 0:03:06.510 since they're all good, the last one probably would have 0:03:06.530 --> 0:03:10.510 been last, which is not an indictment, which is not 0:03:10.630 --> 0:03:14.020 grading in terms of best to worst. on his own, 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:15.920 but it's just like in the rankings, it would just 0:03:15.960 --> 0:03:19.500 kind of be in the bottom of the order. So 0:03:19.540 --> 0:03:21.139 I think, you know, kind of looking at it that 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:25.510 way helps people frame it from a good to worse perspective. 0:03:25.530 --> 0:03:31.070 But I think, no, this was really, really good. Definitely 0:03:31.090 --> 0:03:33.710 a lot of action, which I appreciate it. And they've 0:03:33.870 --> 0:03:36.620 kind of been slowly building it up to here. I 0:03:36.660 --> 0:03:39.760 think just to kind of also talk about what you 0:03:39.780 --> 0:03:42.180 guys were mentioning, it has to be Sinestro. 0:03:43.180 --> 0:03:44.470 I think that's the only thing left. 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:47.220 And how they can do anything with it, what they're 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:49.680 going to do and how, I don't know. But that 0:03:49.900 --> 0:03:53.200 has to be the play that's left. Because I'm with 0:03:53.220 --> 0:03:54.700 you guys. I don't know where they can go or 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:55.520 what they can do from here. 0:03:55.540 --> 0:03:58.280 You can't fight the Guardians. I mean, you could, but 0:03:59.100 --> 0:03:59.960 you have to build it out. 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:05.120 Yeah, I actually, I don't know. I still like episode four. 0:04:05.180 --> 0:04:09.100 Maybe I watched this episode in pieces because I was 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:11.380 staying up late watching football. And I think I watched 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:13.550 like half of it. last night and I finished it 0:04:13.890 --> 0:04:18.750 just before we recorded. And it was, it's a really 0:04:18.790 --> 0:04:20.770 good episode. Again, I got to watch it again in 0:04:21.470 --> 0:04:24.359 life from start to end to kind of understand my 0:04:24.390 --> 0:04:25.210 true feelings on it. 0:04:25.260 --> 0:04:28.400 But I still really loved how episode four ended. 0:04:29.180 --> 0:04:32.080 Like this, this ended, like I said, in such a 0:04:32.140 --> 0:04:35.720 conclusion that I'm like, it does feel like we're about 0:04:35.740 --> 0:04:37.820 to start season two this Sunday. 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:38.440 You know what I'm saying? 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:42.140 Like, but I, I, I still hold. 0:04:42.020 --> 0:04:45.440 For in high regard because of the, the, the detective 0:04:45.500 --> 0:04:50.260 kind of analyst of like how, how found out that 0:04:50.339 --> 0:04:52.580 Zoe was the man Hunter through John and like, and 0:04:52.620 --> 0:04:53.660 how he reacted to it. 0:04:53.660 --> 0:04:55.700 Like, I still love how that ended. 0:04:55.980 --> 0:04:57.940 And I don't think this episode really ended like that 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:01.360 for me with that kind of cliffhanger. Um, it just 0:05:01.380 --> 0:05:04.000 more ended on such of like, okay, we're moving on 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:05.760 to a whole new chapter that we better, that I 0:05:05.820 --> 0:05:09.539 hope is as good as this last chapter. Um, you think, 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:12.760 I guess I'm curious because we was in a group 0:05:13.339 --> 0:05:17.520 and then he commented on the Patreon post and they 0:05:17.540 --> 0:05:20.320 were asking where was Rod and Mike and Mike commented 0:05:20.339 --> 0:05:21.040 that it's just. 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:23.140 Boring to him. He ain't enjoying it. You think this 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:24.589 will be the episode that actually bring him in? 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:27.539 No, I think he needs to wait to the end 0:05:27.580 --> 0:05:31.289 of the season. Again, if you think it's boring right now, 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:33.670 this episode ain't going to move you. This episode is 0:05:33.690 --> 0:05:36.369 probably going to more so confuse you because I'm confused 0:05:36.390 --> 0:05:39.370 about a couple things that are pillars of this episode. 0:05:40.089 --> 0:05:42.990 Like The action is great. I'm not denying that. The 0:05:43.029 --> 0:05:43.789 action was really great. 0:05:43.850 --> 0:05:44.469 I loved it. 0:05:44.950 --> 0:05:47.800 There was some surprises in that, too. But it was also, like, 0:05:47.830 --> 0:05:49.779 the story of this episode was like. 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:51.580 Well, what the fuck? 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:53.240 Like, I was thinking, like. 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:56.200 And we'll get to it, but we start off this. 0:05:56.300 --> 0:05:58.080 Is this... Oh, go ahead. Is this in the same 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:01.860 world as Peacemaker? Yes. They do the different timeline shit, too. Okay, 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:03.200 got it. I mean, it's in a different. 0:06:03.540 --> 0:06:05.969 This is in 2016, so I don't know where Peacemaker 0:06:05.990 --> 0:06:06.370 was at in 2016. 0:06:06.370 --> 0:06:09.050 But it's the same timeline. It's the same universe and 0:06:09.110 --> 0:06:09.289 all that. 0:06:09.310 --> 0:06:09.490 Got it. 0:06:09.529 --> 0:06:13.130 Mm-hmm. Um, we start off this episode back, going to 0:06:13.150 --> 0:06:16.229 talk about timelines, back in 2007. And we get the 0:06:16.290 --> 0:06:19.030 origin story of Sheriff Kelly and how she became a 0:06:19.070 --> 0:06:23.169 resident of Rushville, Nebraska. Um, Ken, what did you think 0:06:23.190 --> 0:06:26.150 about how we started this episode with Kelly, who was 0:06:26.210 --> 0:06:26.690 on the run? 0:06:27.100 --> 0:06:28.360 Nah, nah, Nick. Nah, Nick. 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:31.400 No, we ain't gonna let Ken go. We gonna start 0:06:31.460 --> 0:06:33.560 off with us. Cause nigga, we was right as fuck. 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:36.159 We said something was up. We said last episode something 0:06:36.180 --> 0:06:37.279 was up with the fucking sheriff. 0:06:38.100 --> 0:06:38.420 Oh yeah. Yeah. 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:41.820 So I just want to take props for being like this. 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:44.230 If you want to take props, you interrupted. Go ahead, 0:06:44.270 --> 0:06:47.190 answer the question. As soon as the shit opened and 0:06:47.830 --> 0:06:51.230 she sat down, I knew it was some shit. I 0:06:51.330 --> 0:06:52.750 knew she was in on that shit. 0:06:53.110 --> 0:06:53.850 Everything was going on. 0:06:54.110 --> 0:06:55.810 Because it felt like she was always in the right 0:06:55.850 --> 0:06:57.310 place at the right time. And they just let her 0:06:57.350 --> 0:06:59.900 get away with too much shit if she was supposed 0:06:59.920 --> 0:07:02.880 to be the opposition. So when they opened up with 0:07:02.940 --> 0:07:06.940 this scene, the first thing was I was right. but 0:07:06.980 --> 0:07:08.900 then like the cutting of the finger and all that 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:11.240 bruh it's like damn like I don't know I ain't 0:07:11.260 --> 0:07:13.960 gonna lie to you I would've just told them niggas 0:07:13.980 --> 0:07:17.120 to kill me I ain't got the heart I ain't 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:20.500 got the heart I wouldn't I wouldn't have done that 0:07:20.540 --> 0:07:23.260 Jay I would've cut off one of they fingers and 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:25.900 just matter of fact you could've yeah you could've cut 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:28.000 off the dead nigga well no he's black that's probably 0:07:28.050 --> 0:07:30.090 why he's black yeah yeah yeah and it was it 0:07:30.130 --> 0:07:31.530 was fucked up they took him out she took him 0:07:31.590 --> 0:07:33.510 out first which pissed me off. 0:07:34.770 --> 0:07:37.960 Yeah she didn't give him no choice But I. 0:07:37.940 --> 0:07:39.740 Guess because she heard the other nigga talking more, he 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:41.040 was like, oh, he must be in charge. 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:44.930 Ken, what were your thoughts on how this episode opened up? 0:07:47.260 --> 0:07:51.740 Well, what Jalen said was that when it happened, I 0:07:51.780 --> 0:07:58.720 was like, y'all's suspicions were correct about her and what 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:01.500 her role is in that. 0:08:01.420 --> 0:08:04.900 Town, her overall involvement. Cause she was from Gotham. 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:08.240 The funny thing is they threw that in there and 0:08:08.260 --> 0:08:11.320 we'd never really kind of questioned like what the hell 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:14.700 she was doing in Gotham of all places. Um, and 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:16.240 now to come to find out she was running with 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:19.870 some officers or something like that. And, um, and her 0:08:19.910 --> 0:08:24.790 dad was a snitch and she was trying to get away. So, uh, uh, yeah, 0:08:24.830 --> 0:08:27.010 I think it was just confirmation. Now we just got 0:08:27.030 --> 0:08:30.130 a confirmation for you guys. And then we got, uh, 0:08:31.870 --> 0:08:35.490 we saw her role in all of this. Because when 0:08:35.510 --> 0:08:38.630 she cut the finger off, I was like, I could 0:08:38.650 --> 0:08:41.590 have swore she had all five. And then I remember 0:08:41.630 --> 0:08:45.250 them saying that she heals everybody. And I was like, 0:08:45.270 --> 0:08:47.580 she's got to put her finger back unless she's got 0:08:47.860 --> 0:08:49.920 some fake shit running around that we don't know about. 0:08:50.700 --> 0:08:52.040 And that's what ended up happening. 0:08:52.420 --> 0:08:55.540 Well, the lore of Sheriff Kelly in the comics is 0:08:55.620 --> 0:09:02.090 that she is She's Batwoman in a universe. She ended 0:09:02.110 --> 0:09:06.929 up being connected to the Batman shit heavily. The people 0:09:07.050 --> 0:09:11.790 will actually in the comments, but she is somebody that 0:09:11.850 --> 0:09:16.960 we should... Yeah, she's connected to Batman somehow, someway, or 0:09:16.980 --> 0:09:20.660 at least Barbara Gordon, something like that. I don't give 0:09:20.700 --> 0:09:23.599 a fuck about it, but I do like how this 0:09:23.700 --> 0:09:29.270 episode started off because Lou, for me, This made me 0:09:29.290 --> 0:09:33.660 look at Zoe totally different after just this intro. 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:35.559 I don't know if you share the same thoughts. 0:09:36.700 --> 0:09:38.880 If they had led with this and all the jokes 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:40.800 that we had about why was he attracted to her 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:42.840 and all these different things, I feel like they wouldn't 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:43.280 have been there. 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:46.040 I agree with you. And I thought the same thing. 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:49.030 I said, damn, they should have started with this as 0:09:49.070 --> 0:09:51.550 far as her having that type of attitude. And I 0:09:51.570 --> 0:09:54.550 know she couldn't be that upfront with him. as she 0:09:54.610 --> 0:09:57.069 was with her because, again, the back against the wall 0:09:57.090 --> 0:09:59.569 thing and the whole speech that she gave her, but 0:09:59.610 --> 0:10:02.079 the way that they presented the character in this scene, 0:10:03.500 --> 0:10:04.410 ultimately captivating. 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:06.860 It's like, Oh shit, who is this? She ain't been 0:10:06.900 --> 0:10:07.680 at the whole series. 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:15.920 For me, it's like, she's like, uh, she's a humanoid xenomorph. 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:20.319 Like she's a parasite. Like she, it made me look 0:10:20.340 --> 0:10:24.120 at her totally different because she was nefarious the whole time. 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:27.400 Like there's nothing like the, the whole time you thinking like, Oh, 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:30.260 maybe she's just like, you know how they always have those, uh, Jay, 0:10:30.460 --> 0:10:32.080 you know what I'm talking about? They always have those 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:34.380 aliens that are supposed to be the criminals, but they're 0:10:34.420 --> 0:10:37.160 actually the, the victims or like the people that are 0:10:37.210 --> 0:10:39.610 actually trying to, this motherfucker wasn't that good at all. 0:10:39.630 --> 0:10:43.449 She was literally what they said she was. She just 0:10:43.490 --> 0:10:44.610 was a sexy grandma. 0:10:44.790 --> 0:10:45.309 That's all. 0:10:45.330 --> 0:10:48.250 Like to me, Lou, it still don't make sense why 0:10:48.290 --> 0:10:52.270 he was like intoxicated by her because they keep saying 0:10:52.750 --> 0:10:54.570 oh she just has like man hunters they just do 0:10:54.590 --> 0:10:56.990 this thing where they end up just sleeping with you 0:10:57.010 --> 0:10:58.470 and then you just wrapped up in their shit i'm 0:10:58.510 --> 0:11:00.250 like well you got to be attracted to him first 0:11:00.309 --> 0:11:03.770 right i get ugly i get anton's reasoning because he 0:11:03.830 --> 0:11:08.750 ugly as hell but but but john is like you 0:11:08.770 --> 0:11:13.440 can have the baddest Never mind. They say we being 0:11:13.460 --> 0:11:17.220 disrespectful to the actor that's playing Zoe. 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:21.850 That's the baddest chick in Westfield. That ain't no issue. 0:11:22.230 --> 0:11:26.090 I'm just saying, Jay, I know the lore of Jon Stewart. 0:11:26.890 --> 0:11:29.490 Give me somebody in the lore of Jon Stewart. 0:11:29.510 --> 0:11:30.710 That's the baddest chick in the city. 0:11:32.130 --> 0:11:37.589 You believe that? Yeah, it's a population of a thousand. Yeah, 0:11:37.610 --> 0:11:38.770 she probably the baddest chick there. 0:11:39.309 --> 0:11:43.200 But I mean... If you could pick to be any. 0:11:45.660 --> 0:11:47.780 Come on, man. You could be... What's her name? 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:50.860 She explained it, though. I think the explanation was good. 0:11:51.540 --> 0:11:54.280 You taking that explanation. My thing is only based off 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:56.860 of this. We got A-list actors. 0:11:58.340 --> 0:12:00.990 No, no. Okay. 0:12:01.020 --> 0:12:04.150 I'm seeing her explanation for being like that. She couldn't 0:12:04.170 --> 0:12:07.949 have been too pretty as an Indian woman in middle America. 0:12:07.970 --> 0:12:08.430 North Indiana. 0:12:10.490 --> 0:12:12.850 Because of how she explained why she took that disguise 0:12:12.910 --> 0:12:13.590 in the first place. 0:12:13.650 --> 0:12:15.370 Like she was trying to fit in. She just said 0:12:15.390 --> 0:12:17.709 that she just wanted to be a nigga. No, she 0:12:17.730 --> 0:12:19.570 said she wanted to be less privileged. 0:12:20.070 --> 0:12:23.350 And even in middle America, I would probably assume maybe 0:12:23.450 --> 0:12:25.970 Indians get treated just as bad as worse as blacks. 0:12:25.990 --> 0:12:26.850 But that ain't the point. 0:12:27.190 --> 0:12:28.950 The point is she couldn't have been too pretty because 0:12:28.970 --> 0:12:31.550 she wouldn't have got treated bad. 0:12:31.790 --> 0:12:33.900 And when you say Indian, you mean the Southeast Asian, right? 0:12:34.500 --> 0:12:34.679 Yeah. 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:38.199 You think they get worse than the biggest? 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:38.920 I did. 0:12:38.980 --> 0:12:42.020 I was midway through that when I said that, Jay. 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:44.640 Yeah, I'm about to say. I don't think that at all. 0:12:44.950 --> 0:12:47.270 Thank you for catching me. 0:12:47.670 --> 0:12:50.850 My only thing is that a white millionaire can have 0:12:51.070 --> 0:12:53.740 the baddest chick. in the city and the town, because 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:54.660 he's a white millionaire. 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:55.900 So I wouldn't, that's what I'm saying. 0:12:56.660 --> 0:12:58.460 Again, that's the last time I'm bringing this up, but 0:12:58.580 --> 0:13:02.439 it was still, it still didn't make sense plot-wise for why, like, 0:13:02.740 --> 0:13:05.600 does she give off pheromones? Is it like, you know 0:13:05.620 --> 0:13:07.400 what I'm saying? Like, when she has you locked in. 0:13:07.620 --> 0:13:07.940 Does she. 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:11.240 He ain't explain shit, bro. 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:12.400 We don't get to him. 0:13:12.950 --> 0:13:15.590 But I mean, to me, I would have more of 0:13:15.610 --> 0:13:17.570 a gripe that she wasn't a nigga, because she said 0:13:17.590 --> 0:13:18.729 she needed to be at the bottom. 0:13:19.429 --> 0:13:20.210 You know what I'm saying? 0:13:20.250 --> 0:13:23.550 Like, I would, I would think you would want to 0:13:23.610 --> 0:13:26.030 go there, but I guess you need some type of privilege. 0:13:26.370 --> 0:13:29.030 Well, I guess I understand. Like to me, Jay is like, 0:13:29.610 --> 0:13:30.650 she said. 0:13:32.250 --> 0:13:32.910 They're aliens. 0:13:32.929 --> 0:13:34.670 So they don't know the full, they don't care to 0:13:34.710 --> 0:13:37.189 go through the full history. You see how the guardian 0:13:37.210 --> 0:13:38.870 street niggas, like they were like, bro, we didn't even 0:13:38.890 --> 0:13:40.980 know y'all really work like that. Nor do we give 0:13:41.010 --> 0:13:43.260 a fuck with, with her. She, and then she comes 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:44.920 from the same area. It's just like, bro, I just look, 0:13:44.980 --> 0:13:46.660 I just know that I need to start at the bottom. 0:13:47.140 --> 0:13:48.700 Y'all don't care about minorities like that. So I'm just 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:52.350 going to pick one. Like she's, Again, she picked the 0:13:52.370 --> 0:13:54.590 brown skin. She was like, brown or black? She chose brown. 0:13:54.830 --> 0:13:59.170 Because don't nobody want to be black. You ain't got to. 0:14:00.030 --> 0:14:01.100 Even the Dale Garnett. 0:14:01.170 --> 0:14:05.040 Even if you was Dale Garnett, you see all these aliens. 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:08.860 All these aliens. I want to go almost, but not. 0:14:08.820 --> 0:14:12.280 All the way. I ain't going back. 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:15.600 You know how we play Madden franchise, and we got 0:14:15.620 --> 0:14:16.839 to create our own head coach. 0:14:17.300 --> 0:14:22.620 Everybody in there pick black. why why we picked the 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:24.860 black we got a choice. 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:28.220 We got a choice and we still going black oh 0:14:28.380 --> 0:14:31.710 boy um but yeah I thought that was I just 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:34.070 I just found that really interesting that Zoe was a 0:14:34.150 --> 0:14:37.650 snake from jump and it removed all my care and 0:14:37.690 --> 0:14:41.550 empathy for that motherfucker like completely out of the show 0:14:42.790 --> 0:14:44.670 um and after that we head back to 2016 we 0:14:45.170 --> 0:14:47.890 jump forward where we pick up from the last episode 0:14:47.950 --> 0:14:51.040 and see how truly not give a fuck about John 0:14:51.100 --> 0:14:55.150 anymore based on the situation he left him in. Lou, 0:14:55.490 --> 0:14:57.430 what did you think about how this scene played out 0:14:57.470 --> 0:15:01.670 with how both Hal and Zoe left John hanging like 0:15:01.710 --> 0:15:02.690 an unnoticed booger? 0:15:06.900 --> 0:15:09.180 This is when they were in the diner and everything. 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:12.100 No, this is when he was in the car. Nigga, 0:15:12.140 --> 0:15:13.640 just like from the last episode. 0:15:13.900 --> 0:15:14.680 Oh, okay. 0:15:14.700 --> 0:15:16.869 Yeah, Hal got out and she let him fry in 0:15:16.890 --> 0:15:19.960 there so he would need her for help. Yeah, I mean, 0:15:20.100 --> 0:15:22.980 I felt like neither one of them really fucked with him. 0:15:23.020 --> 0:15:25.420 Both of them was really stringing him along. Hal even 0:15:25.460 --> 0:15:28.700 was so on the back end after he figured out 0:15:28.740 --> 0:15:31.540 he was going to do what he wanted as far 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:35.340 as replacing him. But, yeah, I feel like he got 0:15:35.380 --> 0:15:37.380 what he deserved in the sense of how the characters 0:15:37.420 --> 0:15:38.980 looked at him. Not how I look at him as 0:15:39.020 --> 0:15:40.480 a viewer, but how they was looking at him. Yeah, 0:15:40.500 --> 0:15:41.600 they're going to leave you right there to the right 0:15:41.620 --> 0:15:44.570 because you a threat to both of them. 0:15:44.590 --> 0:15:51.210 Hey, I was, again, sorry about this. salty about this. 0:15:52.510 --> 0:15:54.210 You could be salty but i mean he deserved it 0:15:54.230 --> 0:15:56.910 you know what you get you know what you get 0:15:56.990 --> 0:16:01.120 like i mean you've been messing with her with your 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:07.640 nose wide open my nigga like you know better you 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:10.790 know better so you shouldn't feel no way that she 0:16:10.830 --> 0:16:12.070 did this to you bro. 0:16:11.830 --> 0:16:16.220 Like I mean, you get it. I got it. I mean, 0:16:16.260 --> 0:16:17.120 that's how I feel. 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:19.760 I get why you salty because she should have been 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:22.230 like more empathetic to my boy. But at the same time, 0:16:22.250 --> 0:16:24.290 it's like you've had your nose wide open. You find 0:16:24.330 --> 0:16:27.630 out she was a man hunter. You knew all these things, 0:16:28.250 --> 0:16:30.930 but you still moving around like everything good. 0:16:30.950 --> 0:16:32.810 Like she's supposed to help you. Nah, bro. 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:36.260 I'm salty because of how stupid he was. 0:16:37.260 --> 0:16:38.720 Okay. 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:42.240 I was salty because it was like, Again, it didn't 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:46.600 explain why he was so infatuated with her. If he 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:48.860 knew she was capable of this, and I guess we're 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:53.380 supposed to assume that to a certain degree. Like you mentioned, again, 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:55.350 I'm only going off of the character they've shown. John 0:16:55.390 --> 0:16:58.110 is a calculated person, as he not can. He's very smart. 0:16:58.510 --> 0:17:00.070 He doesn't get attached to nothing. And it's just like, 0:17:00.550 --> 0:17:04.170 how did this thing corrupt you this way? 0:17:04.510 --> 0:17:07.520 What? Why don't you take dude's explanation for her? 0:17:07.580 --> 0:17:11.600 Because, Louis, you listen to everything the white man tell you. 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:13.000 Is that what you want me to say? 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:19.210 But you're saying she didn't release pheromones. I thought that 0:17:19.250 --> 0:17:20.730 sounded like that's what she was doing. 0:17:20.790 --> 0:17:21.570 He didn't say shit. 0:17:21.590 --> 0:17:23.050 He just said, we just fucking. 0:17:23.910 --> 0:17:26.010 Nah, it sounded like she got a special talent. 0:17:26.050 --> 0:17:27.490 It's between the legs. 0:17:27.510 --> 0:17:30.410 Nah, it did sound like it was a talent. Like 0:17:30.450 --> 0:17:32.280 she got the pheromone. There's a pheromone on the track. 0:17:32.300 --> 0:17:33.580 She knows how to get the person. 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:34.010 All right, bro. 0:17:40.590 --> 0:17:43.320 Almost like a hypnotized or something. That's how I took it. 0:17:43.369 --> 0:17:50.520 There's a song called Hypnotized by Akon. And honestly, if 0:17:50.540 --> 0:17:52.900 we're really keeping it a book, that would make even 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:56.930 more sense on why I'm not trying to be like you, 0:17:57.090 --> 0:17:58.530 but why she is not like. 0:17:58.430 --> 0:18:03.730 The Holly Berry looking. You know what I'm saying? Because 0:18:04.330 --> 0:18:05.909 any nigga is going to be attracted to Holly Berry. 0:18:06.950 --> 0:18:09.430 As compared to if it makes it more believable, like, oh, 0:18:09.490 --> 0:18:11.550 this is why he's trying, because she has the ability 0:18:11.850 --> 0:18:14.880 to admit something that makes this nigga fall, like, just 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:16.919 get weak to her. So that makes a little bit 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:19.780 more sense than actually just having some fine-ass woman come 0:18:19.820 --> 0:18:21.219 up to you, because what niggas say, you know, to 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:22.440 some fine-ass woman. 0:18:22.480 --> 0:18:24.100 And you just sit at the bar, and she basically say, 0:18:24.140 --> 0:18:25.040 I want to fuck in my truck. 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:26.179 All right. 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:28.060 Like, every nigga's going to say yeah to that. 0:18:28.260 --> 0:18:28.960 That truck right there. 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:34.990 Yeah, I agree with that shit. 0:18:36.010 --> 0:18:40.260 John... This was messed up from both. I think he 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:41.800 was definitely betrayed by both. 0:18:42.140 --> 0:18:46.840 I was really surprised that Hal went as far as 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:49.600 he did. When he said, I got to take you 0:18:49.740 --> 0:18:52.580 off the game board, I thought he was just like, 0:18:52.619 --> 0:18:54.200