1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: So an infamous private equity firm mayby a utility here 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 1: in Central Indiana, and our next guest says the city 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: needs to step in before that happens. It's Kennelly Casey Show. 4 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: I'm Rob Casey's here, joined in studio by our old 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: friend Jacob Stewart, columnist over at Indie Star. New column 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: out today, Indianapolis should buy AES Indiana before black Rock can. 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 2: Jacob Stewart joins us. Now, Jacob, Hello, thanks for having 8 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: me on. Okay, so explain to our audits. So AES 9 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: is a major utility. We hear complaints about them all 10 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 2: the time. 11 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: They serve basically our electric service to the people of Indianapolis, 12 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: Central Indiana. Right, correct, and explain who black Rock is 13 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: before we get into what you say are the pitfalls 14 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: of this. 15 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 3: So they are a multi national investment firm, one of 16 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 3: the largest asset managers in the world, and they are 17 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 3: a private equity firm. And so private equity, for those unfamiliar, 18 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 3: is a type of company that purchases businesses with the 19 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 3: intent of flipping them and selling them for profit. 20 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: Okay, So Blackrock made it on state radar not too 21 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: long ago, when what was it the in purse, right, 22 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: was it in perse right? The pension fund for the 23 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 1: States that you're out of here, Yeah, they. 24 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 3: Were banned because of their ESG investments, and that had 25 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 3: its root in a twenty twenty three law that banned 26 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 3: the pension fund from using asset managers that had those 27 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 3: ESG commitments. 28 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: All right, So now they are looking at buying AES 29 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,199 Speaker 1: And obviously this comes at a time where people are 30 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: very concerned and rightfully so, about skyrocketing utility rates. How 31 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: close is Blackrock to being an owner in AES? 32 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 3: So from my understanding, they've already made an offer on 33 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 3: AES Corp, which is the parent company of AES Indiana, 34 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 3: valued at around eighteen dollars a share, So it's a 35 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 3: multi multi billion dollar purchase and it's closing as this 36 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 3: is happening. Happening, so you know, they could back out, 37 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 3: something else could happen, but it seems pretty much guaranteed 38 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 3: that it's going to happen unless something changes until then. 39 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: And Blackrock is in the money making business, they're not 40 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: in the better life for you business. Right, So the 41 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: theory you have, and you go through this in this 42 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: column over at Indie start that just came out today. 43 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: Is somebody better do something fast or just steal a 44 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: phrase from the former president Joe Biden. If you think 45 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: utility rates are bad now get ready by yeah. 46 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,399 Speaker 3: No exactly. So we're already worrying about rising utility rates 47 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 3: because of data centers and other infrastructure issues. Indiana is 48 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 3: not producing enough energy as it is right now to 49 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 3: serve their existing customers. Any private equity firm that purchases 50 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 3: a utility will most likely be aiming on increasing the 51 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 3: infrastructure even more, doubling down on the trying to bring 52 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 3: data centers here at any cost as many as possible, 53 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 3: to turn a quick profit at the back at the 54 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 3: expense of local residents, and then eventually they'll sell it 55 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 3: for a profit. 56 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: Jacob Stewart, columnist an Indie Star, is our guest. New 57 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: column out today. Indianapolis should buy as Indiana before black 58 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: Rock can. 59 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, Jacob, how can Indianapolis buy aes so? 60 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 3: In nineteen eighty one, I believe it was shortly after 61 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 3: the state granted five or so utilities and monopoly over 62 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 3: wide swaths of the state. They gave Indianapolis specifically the 63 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 3: right to buy a utility, and that was used one 64 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 3: time before, as far as I'm aware, in two thousand 65 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,839 Speaker 3: and two, to purchase the Indianapolis Water Company for five 66 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 3: hundred and forty million, and that was eventually sold to 67 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 3: Citizens Energy. So it's it's state law. 68 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 5: You know. 69 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 3: Exactly how that. 70 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 4: Would look would be a. 71 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 2: Little bit questionable. 72 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 3: The city county council would just pass a bill or 73 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 3: a ordinate to give the mayor probably the authority to 74 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 3: work out the terms of the deal with AES and 75 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 3: then we would see what happens from there. I think 76 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 3: ultimately as it stands, it would be you know, whether 77 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 3: or not aescorp actually wants to sell, But the city 78 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 3: could take away their ban on using eminent domain to 79 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 3: take the property of utilities. That was also a nineteen 80 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 3: eighty eighty law they passed, So that would put them 81 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 3: on the same footing as they had when they purchased 82 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 3: the Indianapolis Water Company because they had a right to 83 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 3: first purchase. 84 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: Then okay, So a couple questions, the state passes this 85 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: law that basically forces Blackrock out of state investing or 86 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: state investments bring a part of state investing. Can't they 87 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: do something to say, eh, you guys aren't stepping in 88 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: or Why is the state, who clearly has a problem 89 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: with Blackrock, allowing something like this when they grant the 90 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: utility to be a monopoly. 91 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: Right, and this is by choice. 92 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 3: I've spoken to Citizens' Action Coalitions executive director Crone Olsen 93 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 3: over Twitter. 94 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 2: He's spoken about it. 95 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 3: There was a recent merger between two utilities, and the 96 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 3: Indiana Utility Regulatory Commission essentially said we don't have any 97 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 3: approval jurisdiction over this. 98 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 2: So they had approval over everything, right. 99 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 3: You would think, but they're they're very limited apparently either 100 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 3: by their own willingness to do things or just state 101 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 3: their authority they're given by the state. 102 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 2: So they limited on everything, but raising the rights. Yeah, 103 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: very unlimited in that go ahead. 104 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 3: Sorry, So the state would have to pass the law 105 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 3: giving them approval jurisdiction over it. They probably have to 106 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,679 Speaker 3: specifically spell out no private equity cannot buy utilities, because 107 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 3: otherwise the iu RC probably would not do much about it. 108 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 4: No problem, Rob. You know how good the legislature is 109 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 4: about passive bills for the residents. 110 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 2: So this is. 111 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: Sort of like almost the way you're making a sound 112 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,799 Speaker 1: and you make a set of this column of FATA 113 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: compley that Blackrock is gonna own a big portion of AES. 114 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, more than likely. It would be a hard, 115 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 3: hard sell probably to get the Indiana General Assembly to 116 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 3: support a bill like that, especially given you know indie 117 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 3: stars reported previously about how much the energy lobbyists have 118 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,559 Speaker 3: you know, given to leadership in the General SEMM. 119 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: Do you buy this like braun is now Ebenezer Screwedge, 120 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: who has been visited by the ghosts of utility rate 121 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: hikes past, and now he's woke up Christmas morning shouting 122 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: I'll change, I'll change. I mean he just signed this 123 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: doctor Frankenstein SMR bill that's gonna raise everybody's rates over time. 124 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: Do you are you buying this? Oh, it's all no 125 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: rate hikes all the time now for me. 126 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 3: No, And it's really it's it's kind of out of 127 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 3: his control. Everything he's said to do it has done 128 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 3: quote unquote so far has been mostly symbolic. To actually 129 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 3: change this and change utility policy, it would have to 130 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 3: be through the general State, which is for years past 131 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 3: laws that benefit the utility monopolies at the expense of consumers. 132 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so holiday got big mad. 133 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: We think it was at us and that hearing the 134 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: other day, and it was not very nice. All right, 135 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: Jacob Stewart with us a couple of minutes left with him. 136 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: Call him over at the Indie Star. Now you can 137 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: read this indianoplistioned by as Indiana before black Rock can. 138 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: Now people will hear you say this, and they'll say, Okay, 139 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: you worked for the Republicans in the Senate. The Republicans 140 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: or Republican minded people are supposed to be no government 141 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: intervention at any time. Joe hog Set can't run a 142 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: lemonade stand to save his life. How does hog Set 143 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: and the Democrat controlled city County Council make this thing better? 144 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? 145 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 3: So there are already seventy two municipal electrical utilities in 146 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 3: the state. So it's not without. 147 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 2: Precedent electrical utilities. Yes, holy smike. 148 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 3: So there's seventy two of them already. Whatever happens with 149 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 3: this particular example, the city would not have to manage it. 150 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 3: The city would not even have to own it eventually 151 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 3: if they don't want to. Back when the city bought 152 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 3: the Indianapolis Water Company, they contracted out the management. That's 153 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 3: how it works a lot of the times when it 154 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 3: comes to like sewer utilities, and other types of utilities 155 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 3: in the natural monopolies the city doesn't have the expertise 156 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 3: to run, or they could just sell it to Citizens 157 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 3: Energy like they did the Indianapolis Water Company, and if 158 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 3: they were willing to purchase it, and that would be 159 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 3: much better than Black Rock or even a for profit 160 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 3: company because Citizens Energy is a public charitable trust, so 161 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 3: it's run like a nonprofit. You know, Josh Bain, who's 162 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 3: a Republican city county councilor he'd support it if the 163 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 3: end result was a cooperative management and that means the 164 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 3: utility customers would be the owners essentially. 165 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 4: And there's plenty of. 166 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 3: Examples of those two, like rural electric membership cooperatives. So 167 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 3: these things could be spelled out in whatever deal the 168 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 3: city council makes. 169 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 4: How would it be funded. 170 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 3: Through revenue bonds? That how a lot of the times, 171 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 3: like school improvements are Oh yes, I'm sure. 172 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: It's tax increases, revenue bonds or. 173 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 3: Tax increase, so they would be sold to locals and uh, 174 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 3: it would be separate from the general fund, It would 175 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 3: be separate from the one point seven billion dollar budget 176 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 3: Indianapolis past, and it would be paid for u presumably 177 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 3: hopefully out of the whatever revenue the local utility makes. 178 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 4: So, in other words, taxpayers would pay for it. 179 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 3: It's either that or they pay it in their next 180 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 3: electricity bill. 181 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 1: The column Indianapoles should my ees Indiana before black Rock 182 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: can Jacob Stewart, Indie Star, Thank you. 183 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 4: Thank you. You're listening to Kendall and Casey on ninety 184 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 4: three w ib Curb. 185 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 6: Or Rugby Ballen Doll Dogs. 186 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 4: Al. 187 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 2: I gotta put some pressure on you here. 188 00:09:58,520 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. 189 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 2: Of course you're made a big mistake last week. So 190 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 2: you got a bet right for me? Oh no? 191 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: And now I mean now we got to ride the 192 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: lightning for the degenerates. Next door sports betting pod. 193 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 4: Can never walk away from a heater. 194 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 2: That's right. 195 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: So Casey said that the Notre Dame Fighting Irish would 196 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: beat Boise State by more than twenty and one half points. 197 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 2: They won by twenty one points. 198 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 4: Right there. 199 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: We were sweating that final Boise State drive, but we 200 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: did so now you're obligated to help me do it again. 201 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 7: Win. 202 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: Some more bets from the podcast will drop later today. 203 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: No pressure. I am in first place between Hammer, the 204 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: pros and myself on the college football side. 205 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 4: I get to share the profits. 206 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: Uh three, Okay, I will bet three dollars on this game. 207 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: If it hits, You're in for You're in for one. 208 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, here we go. Very good. That's a 209 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: third of the loot is going to go to you. Yeah, 210 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 2: all right, very good. Okay. 211 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 1: So, Casey, I gave you the option Thatre is playing 212 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: North Carolina State this weekend. The current line sees Notre 213 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 1: Dame twenty two and a half point favorite, and the 214 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 1: over under is set at sixty and a half points. 215 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: Now we ask you for this because you lived much 216 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: of your life in and around the greater South Bend area. 217 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 4: Twenty five years you were in radio. 218 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 2: In South Bend. 219 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: You I believe you're a season ticket holder at one 220 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: point for Notre Dame football. So I figured if anyone 221 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: would know Notre Dame footballo'd be you. You proved yourself 222 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: a worthy advisor last week. So now I'm giving it 223 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: to you. You can choose the over under or you 224 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: can choose the spread. Twenty two and a half is 225 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: the spread over under set at sixty and a half. 226 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 4: All right, So there's a lot of things that you 227 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 4: have to take into consideration when you're talking about Notre 228 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 4: Dame football, first and foremost the weather in South Bend. 229 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 4: That's right, and I have looked at that. It is 230 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 4: supposed to be sunny in seventy two, so it may 231 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 4: not be under a blue gray October Scott. Okay, maybe 232 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 4: under a blue skot. However, I think that's a pretty 233 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 4: heavy lift. Twenty two and a half point a lot 234 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 4: of points. Yeah, so I'm gonna go with the under. 235 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 2: You're gonna take the under? Yeah? 236 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: Now, well wait a second. Now, see this is why 237 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: we can't let women do anything. Because you had previously 238 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: told me you wanted to go with under sixty and 239 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: a half total points. Yeah, but you just said you're 240 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: going under twenty two and a half points. Sure, under 241 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: the six hundred sixty at a yeah, okay, so you're you 242 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,719 Speaker 1: want to throw the spread out and you're going with 243 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: the total points you think between the two teams, correct, 244 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: there will be less than sixty one points scored in 245 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: this game. 246 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 4: Correg I still think Notre Dame is gonna win. I 247 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 4: just don't believe it's going to be. Okay, sixty and 248 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 4: a half point scoring game. 249 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: Okay, good, So we will take under sixty one points 250 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 1: scored today on the degenerates next Door Sports Betting podcast. Also, 251 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: if you'd like to tell me out with this one, 252 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: because Hammer all of us have to pick one game 253 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: that's the same each each week. Oregon currently finds themselves 254 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: our game of the week, a seven and a half 255 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: point favorite at home against iu SO, two top ten teams. 256 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: The over under is fifty five and a half total points. 257 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: Oregon is a seven and a half point. However, that 258 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: line opened at ten and a half earlier this week, 259 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: it's now at seven and a half. 260 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 4: Okay, Oh boy, that's a tough one. 261 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 3: You know. 262 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 4: I hate saying this because I don't want to upset people, 263 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 4: but I'm going to take Oregon in this game. 264 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: So you think Oregon will win my eight or more 265 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 1: points racked, all right, I will make you the same deal. 266 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 4: So it's a long way to travel to go play 267 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 4: a game. I think the team might have a little 268 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 4: bit of a jet lag. Oregon's got the home field advantage, okay, 269 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 4: and Oregon's number two. 270 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 2: Okay. 271 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 4: I know Kurt says that he wins everywhere he goes, 272 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 4: but I feel like this may be the game that 273 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 4: they do not come out of. 274 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: All right, just to review, this is like the show 275 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: Regis What was the regius one final answer? 276 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, who is to be a millionaire? 277 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: You're going with Notre Dame North Carolina State under sixty 278 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: and a half total points correct, and you're saying Oregon 279 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: minus seven and a half versus IU. 280 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 2: Okay, very good. Those will be our picks. 281 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 4: What are you betting on that one? 282 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: I'll bet three dollars on both games, so I'm two dollars, 283 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 1: two dollars. You could win two whole dollars, So you'll 284 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: really be watching with great intensities. 285 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 4: And you know what, I'm kind of doing the betting 286 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 4: system with the organ I you game like you do. Yeah, 287 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 4: even if I lose the bet, I win as a Hoosier. 288 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you would get a close game if it's 289 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 2: less than a touchdown. Okay, very good. 290 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: Now, speaking of sports betting, Pew Research, which is a 291 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: well known polling entity. They do polling, politics, society, all 292 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: sorts of things, did a poll on how Americans are 293 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: viewing sports betting, and in July of twenty twenty two, 294 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: thirty four percent of Americans said that sports betting was 295 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: a bad thing, eight percent set a good thing, fifty 296 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: seven percent had no opinion is either good or bad. However, 297 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: just three years later, now forty three percent say sports 298 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: betting is a bad thing, so an increase of nine 299 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: years and now only seven percent say a good thing. 300 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: So the negative view of sports betting in America is increasing. 301 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. So is it because people feel like they're exploiting 302 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 4: gen z or they're ruining the game? These college students 303 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 4: sitting around watching the game sports betting on their phone 304 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 4: and betting away more than they're paying on tuition. 305 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: I think it's a couple things. I'll take a stab 306 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: at it, if that's all right. I think, first of all, 307 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: you are seeing some level, at least in the at 308 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: the pro while we've seen some college now as well 309 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: of what they used to call point shaving, in which people, 310 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: for various reasons were alleged to have been manipulating their performance. 311 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: And it is tracing back to sports wagering, which should 312 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: have been a well done moment when they legalized it 313 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: across or allowed states to legalize it across the country. 314 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: That's good going to happen. The other part of it, 315 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: I think it is is that well. I also think 316 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: people get worn out by stuff. It was new, it 317 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: was novel, You do it unless you're really into it. 318 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: Then the fun of it kind of wears off it. 319 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: So sort of like going to Vegas, right, Like it's 320 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: fun to do for a couple of days, and they're like, oh, 321 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: let'st have my money. 322 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 2: Okay, not so fun, so much fun. 323 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: And then I think the third part of it is 324 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: when you see these kids making this amount of money. 325 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: I'm talking college sports, I think that kind of turns 326 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: people off. I think they step away from the table, 327 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: no pun intended, and I think they don't I think 328 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: they start to see this more and more centering around 329 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: sports betting rather than sports itself. I think those three 330 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: things are major factors in why. I mean, that's a 331 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: fairly large increase. It's essentially by almost a third. The 332 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: negative view of sports betting has grown in this country. 333 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 4: And the surprising thing about this poll is that more 334 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 4: men are opposing legalized sports betting than women are. Yeah, 335 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 4: you think that the women would be, hey, that's our money, 336 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 4: stop gambling with our money, But it's the men. And 337 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 4: the other thing that I noticed it was college graduates 338 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 4: are more opposed to sports betting than non college graduates. 339 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 4: And when you break it up by political party, they're dead. 340 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 4: Even Republicans and Democrats both at forty three percent. Yay, 341 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 4: sports betting is bad. 342 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 1: But you touched on I think the most interesting point, 343 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: which is forty five percent of men now view sports 344 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: betting as a bad thing, compared to forty percent of 345 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 1: women that it was thirty five thirty three in July 346 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: of twenty two. This is what I always tell people 347 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: about sports betting is if you do it the right way, 348 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: you can make it fun. You can make it very 349 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 1: cheap entertainment. But you got to put a lot of 350 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 1: guardrails around yourself. And if you're a person with addictive personality, 351 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: I think it's easy to lose track of that. Like 352 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: that Notre Dame game. You knew midway through the fourth quarter, 353 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: Hey this game's OVA. Not Your Dame is gonna win. 354 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: Previous years, you're changing the channel. But now because we 355 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: had that little bet going on, we're gonna stick around 356 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: for You know, you could stay to literally the very 357 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: last minute of the game because you have something to 358 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: you know, keep your interest, keep if a rooting interest 359 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 1: in games you otherwise wouldn't. 360 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 2: You can have a lot of fun with. 361 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: Sports betting, but you've got to be very like I said, 362 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: we laugh, but it's literally true. Most times I bet 363 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: three to five dollars. If you lose it, you can't 364 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: be You should never bet more than you're mad to you. 365 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 2: No, absolutely not. 366 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: I it would never bet bet and I'm so cheap 367 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 1: that I would never bet any amount of money. But 368 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: some people really do struggle with that, and those people 369 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: probably should not be involved if you have an inability 370 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 1: to avoid betting more than eurok with losing. 371 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 4: Do you think that the men are more opposed to 372 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 4: the sports betting because they're more close to it, they're 373 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 4: directly affected by any negative results. 374 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 2: I'm not. 375 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: That really does interest me, because you would think logic 376 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 1: would tell you that we would be women. I can't 377 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: believe they're doing that sports betting again. I actually think 378 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: sports betting has made women more interested in sports because 379 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: it gives them. 380 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 4: A reason, something around, something to the. 381 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 2: And here's what I tell people. 382 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: If I bet five dollars on a game, I'm not 383 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: betting because I need to gamble. I'm buying cheap entertainment. 384 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: Where else for five dollars can you get three hours 385 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: of entertainment? A football game is three hours? Where else 386 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 1: can you get five for five dollars even if you 387 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: lose it, or the entertainment for three hours right, pretty 388 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: much nowhere, especially in the winter on a Tuesday. 389 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 4: Right. Another interesting note from this Pew research about sports betting, 390 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 4: people with an upper income are disliking it more. 391 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 2: Because they're losing it, because. 392 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 4: Maybe it is because they're making a higher bet. 393 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: I will leave people with this and Hammer I'm sure 394 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: we'll back me up when he comes in later. There 395 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 1: is a reason the casinos are as big as they are, 396 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: and there's a reason. 397 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 2: You live where you live. 398 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: The house always will and the end almost always comes 399 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: out of head. So I always remember that, please with 400 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 1: every wager you ever make. 401 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 4: You're listening to Kennel and Casey. It's ninety three WYBC. 402 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 7: Dirty d Yay go Oh, Dirty dyay go, dirty y 403 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 7: go Oh, dirty d yay go. 404 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 4: Oh. He has the theme song. 405 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure he's very aware. 406 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 1: Just a reminder, Casey that according to documents, you can 407 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: make a song about what a dirty rotten individual, a 408 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: little parody song, and what a dirty rotten individual a 409 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: statewide Republican officeholder is and you're still a Republican good 410 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: standing if you hear the song and say, you know what, 411 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: that person's right, we should probably support someone else. 412 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 2: You're out. 413 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 1: Oh okay, it's reminder that's the rules right as laid 414 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: out to us in the Republican Party by laws. That 415 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: the theme song of one dirty Diego Morales, the dirty, rotten, corrupt, 416 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: unethical Indiana Secretary of State. And boy, he's big mad 417 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 1: case because he's got a little little legit competition this 418 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 1: time around. 419 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 4: So Bo Bye, the son of former Indiana governor and 420 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 4: US Senator Evan By, officially announced that he was running 421 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 4: for Indiana Secretary of State, and Diego Morales, the current 422 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 4: Secretary of State, put out a message about it. He 423 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 4: had something to say about that. 424 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 2: And what did he say? Case? He said, I paid 425 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 2: for India. I paid for India. 426 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: No, he's right, and put that in all caps at 427 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: the top of the press release. 428 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 4: He said, Indiana doesn't need another East Coast liberal. Oh, well, By, 429 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 4: I was back in Indiana. I know it's a long 430 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 4: way from the East Coast for him. I'm willing to 431 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 4: help him navigate all ninety two counties he may need it. 432 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 2: Well. A couple things on that. 433 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 1: One, the East coast of the United States, where Bobi 434 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 1: did serve in the US military, so sorry for partying 435 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: on that. I'd love to compare Diego's military record in 436 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: bo Bye's and I bet we'll get a chance to 437 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: do that as this campaign gets closer, because there's a 438 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: lot of questions about Diego's military record, and I'm sure 439 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: bo Bai would love to have that conversation. I will 440 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: say this, the East coast of the US for military 441 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: service definitely closer than India. So if we want to 442 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: have a conversation about who went where and who's spent 443 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: what time in the United States and out, I'm sure 444 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 1: Bobi happy to have that conversation too. 445 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 2: Also, if Diego wants to have. 446 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 1: A conversation about how much he spent of taxpayer money 447 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 1: quote unquote touring all ninety two counties and his ninety 448 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: thousand dollars automobile that he did that in, I'm sure 449 00:22:55,840 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 1: bo Bi also happy to have that conversation. What's fascinating 450 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: to me, Casey about this is look all the stuff 451 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: about bo by residency, voting history, where he's lived. All 452 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: fair game, you know me, politics, blood sport. You're going 453 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 1: to run for public office. You're going to run for 454 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: one of the highest offices in your state. All fair game. 455 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: There ain't no crime in baseball, and there ain't no 456 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 1: crime in politics. 457 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 2: But what I have. 458 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: Found fascinating is people who have for three years overlooked 459 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: in brazen, blatant at best, highly unethical behavior at worst, 460 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: completely corrupt, repeated behavior from the Indiana Secretary of State 461 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: and haven't said a word. Now they're up in arms 462 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: over whether when bo Bay moved furniture into his house, 463 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: the hiring of the brother in law, the no bid 464 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: contracts to mega donors to his campaign, the disappearance to 465 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: a foreign country, the refusal to say who. 466 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 2: Pay for it? Oh, and Diego getting lippy about anybody's vote. 467 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 4: Hey, he's the guy who voted in a different county 468 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 4: than his homestead. Yeah, exemption, Yeah. 469 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 1: All of these things, no bother to these very bold, 470 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 1: brave keyboard warriors on social media over the years, the 471 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: years of behavior from Diego Morales, not a word. But 472 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: when Bobi gets furniture moved into his house, Well that's 473 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: what they're up in arms about. 474 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 4: Do you think that was a weird place to have 475 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 4: an interview. We're talking about the interview that bo Bi 476 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 4: did with James Briggs from Indie Star, where they were 477 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 4: in a condo in Indianapolis that was unfurnished. Bo commented 478 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 4: that he was waiting for the furniture to arrive and 479 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 4: it would be put together soon. 480 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: Well, look, talk about this. This election is going to 481 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: be fascinating for me, I'm sure for many people. One 482 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: because they've already started to Rob and Bo by our 483 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: friends and Rob's going to support Bo bye and it's 484 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: already started, right because that's how Republicans operate. Oh, I 485 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: can't say that that's how Republicans operate. We call it 486 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: their bull crap. When you look at somebody, will they 487 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: ban you from their events and then they start in 488 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: on well Rob and Bo Bayer buddies. You watch Rob's 489 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: gonna be Look. I would be for an aged potato 490 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: skin over Diego Morales. I hope David Shelton grows a 491 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: pair and is capable of defeating Diego Morales at the 492 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: Republican convention because Diego is a dirty, rotten scumbag of 493 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: an individual, and I want him nowhere near any office, 494 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: much less one is important. As the Indiana Secretary of State, 495 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: I will take just about anybody as long as they 496 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: don't have a photo up in the post office over 497 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:40,719 Speaker 1: Diego Morales, So I hope it's David Shelton. But in 498 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: lieu of that not happening, I will take anybody who 499 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: will open up. 500 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 2: The vault and will get up a bird. 501 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: The public will get a bird's eye view of just 502 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 1: how corrupt Diego and his administration and the Republican Party 503 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 1: as a whole has been over the last several years, 504 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: and putting someone of another party in there probably would 505 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 1: be the best opportunity to talk. 506 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 4: All Right, we'll get to Dave Shelton in just a second. 507 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 4: More from Diego Morales, Secretary of State. He said, this 508 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 4: won't be the first time the Democrats and their allies 509 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 4: in the media will spend millions to beat me. They 510 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 4: did it in twenty two and it wasn't close. The 511 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 4: only difference this time is he will be handed his 512 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 4: money on a silver platter. Okay, So this is Diego 513 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 4: Morales saying that it's a dynasty with the Buys and 514 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 4: that bo Bai has the silver spoon. 515 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: So Diego who has looked office for sale is such 516 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: a strong set of words to use, So we won't 517 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: use that. But Diego, who has given out no big 518 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 1: contracts of our money, of taxpayer money. Who has friends 519 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: Raju who have mysterious eighty thousand dollars contracts with his 520 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: office and we don't really know what they do. 521 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 2: We do know that he went to India with Diego and. 522 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: Was bragging about selling VS Access while he was in 523 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: India with Diego. All of that's fine, That behavior is okay. 524 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 1: But Bobi who would use not public money to run 525 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: his campaign? Where that money came from? That's the big 526 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: deal that Everyondy should be paying attention to. Not the 527 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: no big contracts, the campaign donations the show up in 528 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: his account, not his friend who has this mysterious eighty 529 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: thousand dollars contract and you don't know what he does. 530 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: All of that is fine to the Republicans. But because 531 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: some kid got money that was in his potentially got 532 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: money that was in his dad's campaign account, well that's 533 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: what the people need to be paying attention to. 534 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 4: Diego Morales went on. He said, Indiana Republicans need to 535 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 4: unite to ensure Democrats do not get a foothold in Indiana. 536 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 4: I have over a million cash on hand where to 537 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 4: come from Diego, but it will take more, please consider 538 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 4: donating to the corporal who. 539 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 2: Gave Diego that money. Who are those people? 540 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: Look at who they are and look at the contrast 541 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 1: or business that many of them have with the state 542 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: of Indiana. See, this is what the Republicans do, and 543 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: Diego is the tip of the spear. What they do 544 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: is say, don't pay attention to what I've done. Don't 545 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 1: pay attention to the crap I've pulled. Look at the 546 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: stuff over here that doesn't affect you at all. And 547 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: we'll make that person out to be the victim or 548 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: the villain. We'll make them out to be the bad guy. 549 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 1: Don't look at what I've done. They're the bad guy 550 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 1: because of their name. 551 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 4: Okay, so we'll get to Dave Shelton's comment in just 552 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 4: a minute. But here is Bobai. He talked with Ben 553 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 4: Verbannik front of the show from WHI Bobai said his 554 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 4: top priority is to keep election safe. He also ripped 555 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 4: on Diego and wants to do an audit of the 556 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 4: Secretary of State's office. 557 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 5: My top priority if I'm successful in running for this office, 558 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 5: to keep our elections secure. No illegal votes, period. But 559 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 5: at the same time, I am deeply concerned that our 560 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 5: state ranks fiftieth at the bottom of the United States 561 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 5: in voter participation. The person currently in charge of that 562 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 5: office has spent ninety thousand dollars of taxpayer money on 563 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 5: a luxury suv so we can drive around our state 564 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 5: and act like a king. He has hired his brother 565 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 5: in law and pays him a six figure salary. He's 566 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 5: taken trips all over the world. Still doesn't tell us 567 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 5: who's paying for them. First day in office, Let's do 568 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 5: an audit of the Secretary of State's office. I welcome 569 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 5: input from the governor, from the attorney general. Let's open 570 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 5: the books on this thing. 571 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: No argument on any and that's what they're afraid of. 572 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: That's what the Republicans are worried about, is that if 573 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: Bobi gets in there, he will. 574 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 2: Have access to all that information. 575 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: And he will be able to show you the public 576 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: not just how corrupt Diego Morales and his administration have been, 577 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: how unethical Diego Morales and his administration have been. He'll 578 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: be able to show you not only all of that, 579 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: but who knows who's connected into what. That's what they're 580 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: really worried about. That's why these Republicans are coming out 581 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: in support of Diego because they know if that office 582 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: gets its doors opened up, it's bad news for all 583 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: of them. It'd be great news for us. The office 584 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: itself doesn't matter. It's an administrative position. For all these 585 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: people who are oh bo by this or the Democrats 586 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: that there's nothing any of these administrative offices, whether it's 587 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: the state treasurer, the Secretary of State, the comptroller, any 588 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,719 Speaker 1: of them, there's nothing they can do without the express 589 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: written consent of the Indiana General Assembly, with the signature 590 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: from the governor. Now, Diego doesn't treat it like an 591 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: administrative position, and because of all the money that touches him, 592 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: that touches so many other Republicans, they let him get 593 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: away with it. But wouldn't it be fun to see 594 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: the Republicans act. Let's just say bo Baye with some 595 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: radical left extremists. He's not, but let's say he was. 596 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: Wouldn't it be fun for once to actually see the 597 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: Republicans have somebody to fight with, have somebody to go 598 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: toe to toe with, have to behave like Republicans for once. 599 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 2: That's like a worst case scenario. What would be the 600 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 2: harm in that? 601 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: What do you think Bobi can't do anything without the 602 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: General Assembly? There is no downfall other than a downfall 603 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: to the Republicans, which is getting exposed. 604 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 4: Well, many people consider the secretary of State's office a 605 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 4: stepping stone to either Attorney General or governor. I think 606 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 4: it would be fascinating to look at historicals to see 607 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 4: how much was spent on past elections for secretary of 608 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 4: State's office, because I believe this one may be one 609 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 4: of the most expensive ever. 610 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: And remember we did the math yesterday. One hundred and 611 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: twenty five thousand votes changed, that's all, that's all that 612 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: has to happen for in this case, Bobi to defeat 613 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: Diego Morrales. And I think you're also going to see 614 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,239 Speaker 1: a lot of people who voted for the Libertarian as 615 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: the protest vote against Diego in twenty twenty two, who 616 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: will probably vote for Bobai in protests. So you're probably 617 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: looking realistically about one hundred thousand votes that have to 618 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: be switched, which in a state of seven million people 619 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: is very small. And I'm here for all of this 620 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: casey and I can't wait. 621 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 4: So Dave Shelton responded, he is also running for Secretary 622 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 4: of state he is a Republican, He said it shouldn't 623 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 4: be a surprise. Bo filed a new Indiana voter registration 624 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 4: after being moved to inactive twice, once in twenty nineteen 625 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 4: and again in twenty one, with multiple postcards to his 626 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 4: Marion and Monroe County addresses returned as undeliverable. He went 627 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 4: on to say Indiana deserves a Secretary of State who 628 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 4: actually lives here, runs elections hands on, and solves problems. 629 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 4: And that is one thing that Dave Shelton should hang 630 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 4: his hat on, because he has run elections hands on. 631 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, the problem with Shelton is he won't do any 632 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: of this to Diego. He's not going to get through 633 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: the convention to have an election against bow By because 634 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: he's had a year to almost a year to pull 635 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: this tough guy routine that he just pulled with Bobai 636 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: on Diego and he won't do it. He's clearly petrified 637 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: of Diego. And so David, you're not getting through convention 638 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: to have an election against bo By, because that's how 639 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: you should be treating Diego. He's the guy in charge, 640 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: He's the guy currently screwing up. He's the guy currently 641 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: making the choices and he won't do it because he's afraid. 642 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: And because he's afraid, he's not going to win at convention. 643 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: So get ready for bo Bi and Diego Morales and 644 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: I'm here for all of it. 645 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 4: Casey Hammer's going to join us next. It's ninety three WIBC. 646 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: Okay, before we get to the sports betting thing, Jason 647 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: Hammer and the Hammer of Nigel Show is here. We 648 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: had Ryan Headrick on earlier in the show today talking 649 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: about the sort of the play by play that he 650 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: has been able to put together in person interviews, man 651 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: on the street stuff. With this Mark Sanchez thing, this 652 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: is fascinating to me about how this all could have unfolded. 653 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 8: Right, And that's what was frustrating about that press conference 654 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 8: they did yesterday. Now they did not take a lot 655 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 8: of questions, but they allowed a couple of people to 656 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 8: shout out a few questions before the thing wrapped up. 657 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 8: And I think the most intriguing question, at least in 658 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 8: my opinion, is why was Mark Sanchez in the allete? 659 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 8: Was he going back to his hotel? Was he going 660 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 8: back there to look for a hooker to get drugs? 661 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 8: Was he just stumbling around because he was incoherent? Why 662 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 8: was he in the alley? 663 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 4: He lost? 664 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 8: And instead of yelling that question out, you've got Russ 665 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 8: McQuaid a Fox fifty nine and wanted to make it 666 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 8: about constitutional carry in a situation where nobody was shot. 667 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, And how did he get to that state to 668 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 1: where he felt he had to engage in a conflict 669 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: with this guy? I mean, is he just going on 670 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: the road every week getting blitzed out of his mind? 671 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 1: I mean is that a regular occurrence? Like was there 672 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:34,399 Speaker 1: something said to him? 673 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 4: You know? 674 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 2: Like there's so many unanswered questions still, and I think. 675 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,240 Speaker 8: We're going to start getting more and more as stuff 676 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 8: starts to leak out, because there are people that know 677 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 8: that work inside, whether it's IMPD or the prosecutor's office. 678 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 8: The more this story plays out, the days go by, 679 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 8: somebody's going to start leaking that out or the video 680 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 8: is going to become available. I know Ryan's working on 681 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:56,399 Speaker 8: trying to get some. 682 00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: Video and depending on whose side it's sympathetic to, the 683 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: defence hasn't said anything yet. There's been no, know, nothing 684 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: offered from them. That's usually not great for you, but 685 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: you haven't heard anything from them at all. 686 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 8: And you know who's receiving some shrapnel from this is 687 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 8: Mark Sanchez's wife. 688 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 2: She just launched a new series. 689 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 8: She's in that Chad Power series that's on HULLAH. Yeah, 690 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 8: and the Glenn Powell thing where they basically took that 691 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 8: bit Eli Manning did and made a series out of it. 692 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 2: She is like, got a major roll in that. So 693 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 2: here she is all right, got a streaming shoe. 694 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 8: It's got a major Hollywood star in it, it's backed 695 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 8: by the Manning brothers. 696 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 2: We're going to get so much publicity. 697 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 8: And she was in the spotlight and maybe for twenty 698 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 8: four hours before her idiot husband ruined it for. 699 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you see that video of him walking with 700 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: that wound on his chest. It's a bad look. Hey, 701 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: you are the sports betting guy. You heard Casey. I 702 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,280 Speaker 1: let Casey do the picks for me this week. 703 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 2: She's rolling, Yeah, you can't walk away. 704 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 4: Don't walk away from me here. 705 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: So Casey decided notre dame under what sixty and a 706 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,320 Speaker 1: half and Oregon laying the seven and a half against IU, 707 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: and it spun it that. We spun that into this 708 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: new poll out by Pew Research about how people are 709 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:12,959 Speaker 1: turning on sports betting and. 710 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 8: What was interesting is that it was predominantly men that 711 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 8: we're doing it. 712 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,240 Speaker 2: And let me tell you this is why. Because men 713 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 2: are losing. 714 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 8: They think I played high school ball, I played in college. 715 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 2: I know ball, I watched it all the time. But 716 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 2: you might not know gambling. Right. 717 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 8: So let's say you picked Oregon to win and cover 718 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 8: this weekend. What if Oregon only wins by six? Yeah, yeah, 719 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 8: you picked the winner, right, But that's not how you 720 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 8: win the bet. They would have had to have won 721 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 8: by seven, eight or more. 722 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: And look at the end of that pro game, the 723 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: NFL game last night, falls down gets back. 724 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 2: I warned your husband not to get in on that 725 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 2: with us. I hate all these lines. 726 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:52,359 Speaker 4: Late night games though. 727 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 2: Well, but I mean it was he more entertaining that 728 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 2: what the Cubs were giving me. But that's the point. 729 00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 2: It's like, what if that play goes differently? 730 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 1: Do you know any more or less about sports based 731 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 1: on you know, one got a crazy play? 732 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 8: Well, in our group text we have with Nige. Look 733 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 8: at the Colts same game parlay We did so last 734 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 8: couple of weeks. Just ask Colts fans we do a 735 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 8: same Gamer I'm not a parlay guy, but just to 736 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 8: be a fan and have fun watching your team. We'd 737 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 8: won the previous two weeks. I put together same gamer 738 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 8: Bata Boom. We were playing with house money. We should 739 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 8: have won again this weekend, but the Colts kicker gets injured, 740 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 8: so they have to go for two. 741 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 2: They don't get it. 742 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,760 Speaker 8: A bunch of times we missed a total by one point. 743 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 2: What are we doing this afternoon? What's going on? 744 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 8: We're gonna drop that new Degenerates next door podcast, No Presher, Casey, my. 745 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 4: Pics are in. 746 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 8: We've got Notre Dame picks, we got Indiana picks, per 747 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 8: Due pick. 748 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 2: We're gonna run the table playing football, and. 749 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 8: Then the Hammer and Nigel show back at it with 750 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 8: some caller roulette this afternoon. 751 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 4: Thank you Hammer. You're listening to KENTL and Casey on 752 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 4: ninety three WIBC.