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Speaker 1: Grand Rising family, and thanks for starting your week with

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Speaker 1: us this first week of November. Later, author and Africana

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Speaker 1: history professor mainy yan penwill take over our classroom. Professor,

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Speaker 1: I'm pim. He's the scholar who identified that the Willie

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Speaker 1: Lynch letter was a fraud. This morning, he'll explain the

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Speaker 1: ongoing genocide in the Sedan. He'll learn how it started

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Speaker 1: or what's at stake in that fight. But to get

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Speaker 1: u started momentarily, Washington DC business man and humanitarian Sinclair

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Speaker 1: Skinner will join us. But let's get Kevin to open

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Speaker 1: up this classroom doors on this Monday morning, Grand Rising, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: Grand Rising, indeed coll Nelson Blue forty two. Hey Hei Man,

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Speaker 2: Monday Morning quarterbacking Man.

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Speaker 3: I know, I know, I don't proclaim.

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Speaker 2: To be as smart as the coach or as young

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Speaker 2: and as athletic as the quarterback. But when you're down

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Speaker 2: by thirty one points, man, just take a seed, calm.

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Speaker 3: Down, be ready for next week.

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Speaker 2: You see in my Monday Morning Quarterback armchair coaching opinion.

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Speaker 1: Well that's a good point though. Did the coach think

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Speaker 1: he could still win the game by keeping keeping Jadon

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Speaker 1: Daniels on the.

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Speaker 2: Field, Well, all I have is the Hollywood scripts. You know,

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Speaker 2: that whole any given Sunday idea ology, and that is

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Speaker 2: the According to the report on Commander's News, the coach,

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Speaker 2: Quinn said that he thought about taking him out, and

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Speaker 2: then after he got hurt, it was obvious he had

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Speaker 2: to take him out, and so it sounds like he

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Speaker 2: was accepting the responsibility. But in my Hollywood movie mindset,

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Speaker 2: the quarterback, young Jaden Daniels, who's been hurt all that

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Speaker 2: time and it's finally back at home and he knows

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Speaker 2: the city's depending on him. He's like, I know it's

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Speaker 2: all psychological, coach, but put me in for this last

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Speaker 2: play and it'll be all right. Next thing, you know,

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Speaker 2: he runs. Oh, because dan Quinn said the run wasn't

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Speaker 2: scheduled for that particular play, they allowed Jade and Daniels

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Speaker 2: some freedom past the first two plays. He can choose

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Speaker 2: what he wants to do, and in this case, he

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Speaker 2: decided to run for the hills and somebody twisted him around,

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Speaker 2: which then blew his elbow, leading us leaving us with

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Speaker 2: thirty eight to fourteen score right here in our.

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Speaker 4: Own final score. But here's the derill too.

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Speaker 1: He's dislocated his elbow, and I feel for thee because

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Speaker 1: he's been injured so many times. Only second year in

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Speaker 1: the league and he's being injured. I hope he doesn't

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Speaker 1: get that monicul that people think he's brittle. You know

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Speaker 1: that he gets injured too many times, so we're.

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Speaker 3: Not supposed to think that. We can't don't think.

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Speaker 1: Well, probably now because he's just said a short span

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Speaker 1: of time, how many games he's missed because of injuries,

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Speaker 1: Because he dislocated his elbow down painful, so he definitely

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Speaker 1: played next week for sure.

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Speaker 2: Next week or a couple of weeks. How long does

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 2: And you know, I think that maybe you know, some

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Speaker 2: they could have helped it before. It's hard to tell

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Speaker 2: with things like this, you know, life is so fragile.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, they'll find out today because he's going to

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Speaker 2: Man Saint Clair Skinner had some cool ideas that as

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Speaker 2: I was talking to him when we got the phone call.

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Speaker 3: So before we go to Saint Clair, though, the.

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Speaker 2: Idea that the Trump tariffs are going to the Supreme

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Speaker 3: So what do you think of that?

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Speaker 1: Well, people know that the Trump the Supreme Court is

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Speaker 1: So I think there were people around the world because

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Speaker 2: It says it's the biggest battle yent for the Donald

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Speaker 2: I just don't want to do anything, you know. So

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Speaker 2: I tell you, man, his terriffs will cause learning resources.

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Speaker 2: A Usler of toys made mostly overseas, and one of

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Speaker 2: It's a test of presidential power.

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Speaker 1: But you know, people are expecting the Supreme Court to

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Speaker 2: Well, as we move along, Trump spent ninety minutes on

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Speaker 2: won the case against CBS, or at least they settled

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Speaker 2: out of court saying that they edited Kamala Harris's interview.

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Speaker 2: And then he did the sixty minutes interview a year later,

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Speaker 2: And during the interview he kept saying, you can take

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Speaker 2: The guy would ask one question, how you're doing, and

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Speaker 2: the case, but they went ahead and settled out of court.

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Speaker 2: What do you think is it better to just settle

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because they have the corporate structure has some

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Speaker 4: He and in that vein too.

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Speaker 1: CBS has cut off a lot of people. We told

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Speaker 1: the line. And one in fact, Kevin, one of the

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Speaker 2: O'Donnell was asking some tough questions, according to CNN, and

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Speaker 2: that says that one of her questions were, are we

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Speaker 2: going to are we going to war against Venezuela? When

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Speaker 2: will you declare mission accomplished on the immigration issue? Or

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Speaker 2: American cities? And during a couple of key moments, o'donald

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Speaker 2: so you know, you might want to tune in only

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Speaker 2: I just kept going through channels and I would see

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Speaker 2: heard a couple of questions, but it was just kind

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Speaker 2: of surreal that he sued CBS and then he's on CBS.

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Speaker 1: I don't mean no harm. If you sue me, I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to invite you over for that was part

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Speaker 1: Just like they've got a new person running the news

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Speaker 1: getting rid of anybody who doesn't think like Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: So she's she's hoping to make OTA over the transmission

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Speaker 2: So finally, I just wanted to say Happy Black Solidarity Day.

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Speaker 2: And I was going to bring Saint Clair Skinner in

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Speaker 2: What is Black Solidarity Day and why do we observe

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Speaker 2: it today?

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Speaker 1: All right at twelve after top of a Black solid Day?

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Speaker 1: And thank you man. Two for reminding us of today's

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Speaker 1: Black Solidarity Days is observed on the Monday before Election Day,

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Speaker 1: every Election Day November. This was creative. I remember this

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Speaker 1: with Ambassador and professor doctor Carlis Russell is from Panama,

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Speaker 1: and they started back in nineteen sixty nine, where and

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Speaker 1: back back then we're on all kinds of pressure, but

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Speaker 1: Day is involves refraining from work in school and staying

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Speaker 1: So I remember when it started, and for years after

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Speaker 4: I mean we did.

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Speaker 1: It's the radio station back then, wib in New York

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Speaker 3: So that's where the freeze.

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Speaker 2: Back in the day when we used to say solid

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Speaker 1: Compatriots, you know, and you put your fist on your

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it man, solid or you slide five, you know,

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Speaker 2: don't give me some skin, my friend, you know that

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Speaker 2: Love Black People finally and Saint Clair's skinner.

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Speaker 3: Happy Black Solidarity Days.

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Speaker 6: Happy Black Solidarity Day, brothers, my comrades.

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Speaker 1: All right, Hey, simply I think we should adopt Black

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Speaker 1: Solidarity Day every day, not every day before elections.

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Speaker 6: Hey, every day, humble, let's live it.

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Speaker 3: That's right, added to corns and make it a bun

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Speaker 3: of gornza.

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Speaker 6: Yeah it is, well, every every day. We got y'all

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Speaker 6: on the air. It's we're being solid and solidarity. So

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Speaker 6: praise God for the Carl Nelson Show. You know that's

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Speaker 6: a reflection of the solidarity every day. So praise go

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Speaker 6: right over long.

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Speaker 2: Right before I turn you over to Carl Nelson, what

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Speaker 2: did you think of that game, the Commanders Game?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I you know, think as we was

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Speaker 6: to be on their best behavior because they want you

435
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Speaker 6: to come and buy their products. So I think there

436
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Speaker 6: is a context, much like we see in the United

437
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Speaker 6: States where you see someone, let's say El Salvador or Mexico.

438
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Speaker 6: If you go to Mexico, the interaction with Mexicans is

439
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Speaker 6: different than dealing with El Salvadorian or Mexicans in the

440
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Speaker 6: United States, and.

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Speaker 1: The treatment I'm twenty nine away from the top that

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Speaker 1: with Brother sinclis can just waking up. It's just back

443
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Speaker 1: from a trip to China. Sinkly does it matter?

444
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Speaker 6: Though?

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Speaker 1: When you go to these major cities, the big cities,

446
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Speaker 1: A lot different people come to New York and think

447
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Speaker 1: of New York is a reflection of the entire United States,

448
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Speaker 1: or Washington, DC, or any city. I think the entire

449
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Speaker 1: countries like that. And you can name London, Madrid, all

450
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Speaker 1: these major urban areas. It's different from the countryside. Did

451
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Speaker 1: you get that different feeling too, that in those major

452
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Speaker 1: cities that you visited while.

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Speaker 6: In China, Well, I'm saying my first time in China

454
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Speaker 6: was right after the Beijing Olympics, and I wouldn't say

455
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Speaker 6: that was two thouy and ten or eleven. So it's

456
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Speaker 6: been but now almost fifteen years and the amount of

457
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Speaker 6: growth has been bananas. But when I went before, we

458
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Speaker 6: were working on a project with cotton in Zimbabwe and

459
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Speaker 6: we were dealing with Chinese seed, so we were looking

460
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Speaker 6: at exporting cotton to China and they wanted to use

461
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Speaker 6: a particular type of cotton. So when I was there,

462
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Speaker 6: I was in the rural as well as like university

463
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 6: town where they were working on developing again these agricultural

464
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Speaker 6: these hyghbred seeds and whatnot, and the landscape was definitely

465
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Speaker 6: more Still now I was underdeveloped. It was nowhere near

466
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Speaker 6: the development like you see in the city now the interaction.

467
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Speaker 6: And I think this is one of the things that

468
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Speaker 6: people don't talk enough about. Africa is not a country

469
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 6: fair enough, but the continent of Africa is definitely cut

470
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Speaker 6: up or divided by Europeans, not by groups of ethnic

471
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Speaker 6: African people from different tribes, what have you. It was

472
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Speaker 6: literally purposely divided up. When you look at China, you

473
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Speaker 6: call it one country, but it's really a continent of

474
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Speaker 6: subcontinent like nda is in the sense that the people

475
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Speaker 6: who live near the Tibetan like you know, mountains, are

476
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Speaker 6: very different from the folks that are on the coasts

477
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Speaker 6: in Shanghai on the shore. These are very like and

478
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Speaker 6: the distance is huge. They eat different food, they have

479
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Speaker 6: different traditions, they have different dialects, Like there are local

480
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Speaker 6: dialects everywhere. So even though Mandarin is the main language

481
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Speaker 6: and in near Hong Kong is with Cantonese, but literally

482
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Speaker 6: with under so called Mandarin, there's dialects in different regions

483
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Speaker 6: and different provinces. And what you realize is if Africa

484
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Speaker 6: was treated as a country, it would probably be able

485
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Speaker 6: to benefit from the economies of scale because China is

486
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Speaker 6: one country. They have one road system, they have one

487
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 6: you know, teltop system, they have one water system, so

488
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Speaker 6: they're able to let ridge all those together. Well, when

489
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 6: you're fragmented into fifty four countries like that that were

490
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 6: built for just exploitation by outsiders like this, contentially, the

491
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 6: countries weren't even made to maximize local development. It was

492
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Speaker 6: literally there been. They were devised to maximize the extraction

493
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Speaker 6: and under development. So I look at China, even though

494
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Speaker 6: we call it a country, it's really when you get there.

495
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Speaker 6: You know, we try to sometimes used to say Chinese

496
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 6: look alike. Look people look the short ones, tall with

497
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 6: fat ones, dark ones, curly haired ones. It literally is

498
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Speaker 6: a spectrum of people, but yet they are collectively operating

499
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Speaker 6: under one team called China. If Africa we had a

500
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Speaker 6: context where these imaginary, fake, fictitious political boundaries were removed

501
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Speaker 6: and we were able to create railroad systems, roads systems,

502
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Speaker 6: tell those systems that literally benefited the inhabitants of Africa

503
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Speaker 6: and not the explorers or the extractors. I think you

504
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Speaker 6: would see a fast develop, a faster development. And if

505
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Speaker 6: you've got a small country like Mali trying to do something,

506
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 6: or small country like Zambia trying to do something, and

507
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 6: you got all these jurisdictions that aren't being coordinated or

508
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Speaker 6: collaborated with. So I think that was one of the

509
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Speaker 6: things I noticed, all.

510
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Speaker 1: Right, Hold that though right there, we got to get

511
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Speaker 1: caught up in the lates news traffic and where they're

512
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Speaker 1: not different stations. It's twenty four minutes away from the

513
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Speaker 1: top of our family just checking in. I guess there's

514
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Speaker 1: brother Sinclair s. Kinner just back from China. We're going

515
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Speaker 1: to talk about more about his trip. Now the Chinese

516
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Speaker 1: view us in their land and their thoughts too, What

517
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Speaker 1: are your thoughts? Reach out to us at eight hundred

518
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Speaker 1: four or five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll

519
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: take your phone calls after the news that's next. Wake

520
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: it up with us day after a couple of days

521
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: after now daylight savings time has ended. A seventeen minutes

522
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Speaker 1: away from the top of the oh, I guess it's

523
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Speaker 1: brother Saint Clair Skinner is just back from China. We're

524
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Speaker 1: going to talk to him about his trip and also

525
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Speaker 1: I look back black people campaign on this Black Solidarity Day.

526
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Speaker 1: Before we go back to an elements remind you. Coming

527
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Speaker 1: up late this morning, we're gonna speak with the author

528
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: and African history professor that we want meynw And Pim

529
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: from Contracosta College in San Francisco area. He's the one,

530
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: by the way, who figured out that the Willy Lynch

531
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: letter was a fraud. He'll be here, but we're going

532
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: to talk about what's going on in the Saddan and lately.

533
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: This week you're going to hear from chematologist Tony Browner

534
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: also holisticalistic leader healer. If you will Queen Afour will

535
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: join us and ceevil rights activist doctor Paul Smith will

536
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: also be here. So if you are in Baltimore, make

537
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: sure you keep you ready to locked in tight on

538
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Speaker 1: ten ten WLB or if you're in the DMV, we're

539
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Speaker 1: on fourteen fifteen WL. So brother Saint Clair, doing your trip? Now,

540
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: did they identify you as or did they treat you

541
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Speaker 1: differently from the Africans indigenous Africans in China?

542
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Speaker 6: You know, I think in the business sense, the difference

543
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Speaker 6: is this, US relations with China aren't as productive as

544
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Speaker 6: relationships with African businesses. So even contextually working with a

545
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Speaker 6: startup that is working in Zimbabwe, Zimbabwe, because of Lukabi,

546
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 6: a black person from there, the Chinese know there's a

547
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 6: strong chance that they have the final say so in

548
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 6: business as a black American is questionable. They're not sure

549
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Speaker 6: if a black American actually can pull off whatever deal

550
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Speaker 6: they say they can, even in South Africa because the

551
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 6: company we're invested in, even though the sisters Zimbabwe and

552
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 6: she's based in South Africa. Even South African business people,

553
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 6: most people globally know that the economy of South Africa

554
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 6: is still controlled by Europeans. So the same thing in

555
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Speaker 6: me in the Francophone countries, So there's a nuance again.

556
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 6: Of course, white supremact ideologies throughout all this is I'll

557
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 6: never say that that part is not existing. It's just

558
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 6: the way a manifest might be having a little nuance

559
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Speaker 6: to it based on what African country, what the relationship

560
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Speaker 6: that government has with the CCP, the Chinese Communist Party,

561
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Speaker 6: and I think some of those things are part of

562
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 6: it as a contact. So again, the Chinese know that

563
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 6: there's more opportunities in Africa than theirs in the United States,

564
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Speaker 6: So the way they would treat a brother from Kenya

565
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 6: could be very different than where they treat me as

566
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Speaker 6: relates to the potential opportunities more so than my American

567
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 6: dialect per se. But the thing that did and you know,

568
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Speaker 6: we're working on this with I Love Black people, is that,

569
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Speaker 6: you know, Pan Africanism is still such a big thing

570
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 6: for the African diaspora as opposed to African nationals on

571
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Speaker 6: the continent. So every time, you know, you know, the

572
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Speaker 6: head nod that we do with America or our fathers

573
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Speaker 6: and grandfathers did, we would not and see a brother

574
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Speaker 6: like I didn't see enough of that I'd had to

575
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,439
Speaker 6: stare them in their face and get them to say

576
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 6: hey when they were walking by, and these three brothers

577
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Speaker 6: from Nigeria, Kenya, different places. I made a point to

578
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Speaker 6: stop folks and make sure the black folks would acknowledge

579
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Speaker 6: each other. And then I ultimately would meet folks and

580
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Speaker 6: they could see I was from the States that might

581
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Speaker 6: be from an African country, but actually have family that

582
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Speaker 6: live in Maryland. I need to start asking people that

583
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Speaker 6: they listened to the Carl Nelson Show. That might be

584
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Speaker 6: my litmus test. So it literally was one of those

585
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Speaker 6: things where you even had our own people not connecting

586
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Speaker 6: in a foreign land as I would want or wish

587
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Speaker 6: it to be, or if it was an African American abroad,

588
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 6: how they typically there were only African Americans that had

589
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,720
Speaker 6: a problem with their acknowledge if they're there from military reasons.

590
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 6: They can sometimes be a little funny style because I'm

591
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,760
Speaker 6: always in like some pro black I love black people

592
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 6: gear and I kind of like that because it filters.

593
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Speaker 6: I don't need to be hanging out with a bunch

594
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Speaker 6: of CIA or State Department folks. I'd rather be around

595
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 6: people who see the energy that I'm putting out and

596
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 6: they vibe and we can vibe together on the common interest.

597
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Speaker 1: It's thirteen away from the top of the our family

598
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 1: just waking up. I guess the Sinclair Skinners just back

599
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Speaker 1: from China, Sinclear, did you get much questions about Donald Trump?

600
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Speaker 1: Had you know, I'm just trying to figure out now,

601
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Speaker 1: because I hear the people when they travel now, Americans

602
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: when they travel try to hide the fact that they're

603
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Speaker 1: Americans because they don't want to get the blowback from

604
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 1: the especially the country, especially in Europe that dislike Donald

605
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: Trump and may take it.

606
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Speaker 6: Out of I think that many and some of this

607
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Speaker 6: goes the culture. I think many, not many. I've only

608
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Speaker 6: been to a few, but I was in Japan in August,

609
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 6: so I would say in Japan and in China, there's

610
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Speaker 6: they wouldn't talk about that. To me, there's a certain

611
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 6: like cultural norms or what's appropriate and what's inappropriate that's

612
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 6: very different than the Eurocentric context. And so what could

613
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 6: be said in the European and out, you know, again,

614
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 6: like even we talk about African culture. You in business,

615
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 6: you don't just start off in business in the Western

616
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 6: so called norm you can just go right to it,

617
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 6: you know, and just start talking about Okay, let's get

618
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,439
Speaker 6: this meeting, and you start going. In many countries, said

619
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Speaker 6: many places in the world of the cultures, in Africa

620
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 6: as well as in Asia, there's still a ritual of niceties,

621
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Speaker 6: you know, almost like starting a meeting off with a prayer.

622
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Speaker 6: When we do our startup meetings, there's three or more

623
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Speaker 6: of us. We always say a prayer first, and there's

624
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 6: just some ritual that you you know, you go through

625
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 6: when you're talking business where there's almost like country, you know,

626
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 6: people first, how's your mama doing, how your people blah

627
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 6: blah blah blah blah, before you start talking about the

628
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 6: details in business. So there's a level of that where

629
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 6: it would be inappropriate to bring up politics contextually like that.

630
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Speaker 1: Good to hear that, Yeah, because I've read reports in Europe.

631
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Speaker 1: You know, even Americans are sitting down saying they're Canadians

632
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: because they went to blowback. Dislike for Donald Trump is

633
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: so strong in certain parts of Europe. White Americans at

634
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: least you say they're Canadians and out Americans flag they

635
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: call it a different name as a name for it.

636
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 6: Well, I tell you what I remember meeting Canadians would

637
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 6: use the us as their contexts, and I think less

638
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 6: than that. I mean, I just don't think we contextualize

639
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 6: enough of this white tribalism. No one's killed more Europeans

640
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 6: than Europeans, Like, let's just be clear that. So the

641
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 6: violence that their culture has had for literally since they've

642
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 6: been on the world stage is quite consistent. So I

643
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 6: think again, what we're seeing, even when we say stuff

644
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 6: like white supremacist ideology must be destroyed. I used to

645
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 6: think that there's somehow going to be black folks involved

646
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 6: in that destruction. But I know, and y'all covered it

647
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 6: when I went to the border of Ukraine and Poland

648
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Speaker 6: to help our is love black people students. It let

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Speaker 6: me be clear that white supremact ideology is going to

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Speaker 6: be killed by white supremacists. It's going to be killed

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Speaker 6: by Europeans. So it's not going to be us. What

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Speaker 6: I see with China, what I've seen with the things

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Speaker 6: on the ground in Africa. This system is going to end,

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Speaker 6: probably within the next five or ten years. Our responsibility,

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Speaker 6: I think, is to create a new system that's based

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Speaker 6: on justice and equality, that has more fairness in it,

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Speaker 6: that replaces the one we've experienced for the last five

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Speaker 6: or six hundred years. I think all piers come to

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Speaker 6: an end. I don't think that's a we. It's not

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Speaker 6: if it's when. And I just think the behavior that

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Speaker 6: you see of a Trump and people make it about Trump,

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Speaker 6: and I think it's fair. I think Trump is the

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Speaker 6: double all those things the y'all blow blah blah blah,

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Speaker 6: how you streat, but the United States consistently like Biden

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Speaker 6: was the one who was started the genocide in uh

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Speaker 6: Gaza and the genocides in Sudan, and Obama and Biden

667
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Speaker 6: were complicit in the genocide in the Congo, like we

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Speaker 6: can't like. I think it's fair enough to talk about

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Speaker 6: how outwardly Trump is Trump, but it's just a spectrum

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Speaker 6: of the same white supremacy. It might be a liberal

671
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Speaker 6: rights supremacy or a conservative right supremacy, but all of

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Speaker 6: of them are discounting our blackness and treating us one

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Speaker 6: way and putting the premium on rightness. So if they

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Speaker 6: smile at you or don't smile, if they like people

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Speaker 6: who have access or don't have access, they still have

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Speaker 6: a hierarchy where they see even immigrants, even if they're

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Speaker 6: doing immigrant rights, they're seeing immigrants of a pawn and

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Speaker 6: a tool to get control and power. It's not because

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Speaker 6: they see the immigrant as a human being and they

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Speaker 6: want to change the foreign policy so their countries aren't

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Speaker 6: being destroyed and then they have to flee. They literally

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Speaker 6: are leveraging cheap labor so that they can exploit it

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Speaker 6: and have h one visus for these tech startups. But

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Speaker 6: yet they act like they're there just to be helpful,

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Speaker 6: when the truth is it's just another form of exploitation.

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Speaker 6: And we act like those are two choices. They're not.

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Speaker 6: They're the same choice, and we need to say we're

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Speaker 6: not going to participate and we're going to go for

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Speaker 6: something else or build it, build something else. And mac

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Speaker 6: them X said that our people are thirsty, so they'll

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Speaker 6: drink out of ability glass. But we don't even have

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Speaker 6: to build a better glass. It's a clean glass and

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Speaker 6: the people will be attracted. So I just think right

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Speaker 6: now the world is in an reflection point. It's been

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Speaker 6: in one, but there's a new path. I welcome it.

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Speaker 6: I'm not there's no sadness, literally welcoming. And if you

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Speaker 6: go with our trip in China is let me know

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Speaker 6: that the world that we're talking about we're about to

699
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Speaker 6: move into doesn't have to have the presence of Europeans

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Speaker 6: at the leadership or critical because all the resources, all

701
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Speaker 6: the abilities that are needed can be found in really

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Speaker 6: the rest of the world. Europe doesn't make anything. Europe

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Speaker 6: has no resources. The talent pool there is based on

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Speaker 6: immigration and immigration. So in truth, it's going to These

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Speaker 6: are things that have a natural evolution or de evolution.

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Speaker 6: So you know, that's and I think we should be

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Speaker 6: excited because because the world our ancestors recently we're going

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Speaker 6: into was very traumatizing and very problematic. So again for us,

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Speaker 6: it's say that this thing is about the end. I

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Speaker 6: think this is my ancestors that are rejoicing about that,

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Speaker 6: and they want us to be prepared for the new

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Speaker 6: world that we're going to be instrumental in creating.

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Speaker 1: You know, six away from the top of that CLIs

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Speaker 1: you know, really Sinclair, what you're saying, I've heard many

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Speaker 1: people say that before. But the question is what do

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Speaker 1: we do during the interim, during this transition period? As

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Speaker 1: you mentioned all these dynastises, you know, whether it be

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Speaker 1: the Greek, the Roman, or even the British Empire, at

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Speaker 1: some point if they lost, they went down. You know,

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Speaker 1: that's the only way you could if you win, the

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Speaker 1: only objective there is to lose, you know, I guess

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Speaker 1: it's philosophy. If you reach the top, the is it

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Speaker 1: the only thing you could those go back down. And

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Speaker 1: I think this country that most people feel this, well,

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Speaker 1: many people feel this country has done that. So the

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Speaker 1: transition period, That's what I'm asking about, is what do

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Speaker 1: we do during this transition piece.

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Speaker 6: I would say, I would only say, and I'm not disagree,

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Speaker 6: I'm just going to maybe some context. You know, China

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Speaker 6: has been in the top civilization for like almost five

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Speaker 6: thousand years, and they'll say to it, and China has

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Speaker 6: a thing that I would, you know, say, is more

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Speaker 6: of an ethnocentrism. But they do believe they're the best

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Speaker 6: of the bests. They think they're the center of the world,

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Speaker 6: you know. That being said, they literally have seen the Romans,

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Speaker 6: They've seen the Egyptians, the Romans, the Greeks, the so

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Speaker 6: called standards, They've seen all these empires come and go.

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Speaker 6: And I just I think and this people would argue

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Speaker 6: this contextually, but China, even at some of this height

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Speaker 6: of his power, they actually seem to focus more inwardly,

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Speaker 6: they created walls to keep other people out, and they didn't.

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Speaker 6: Maybe one of their benefits that they didn't try to

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Speaker 6: create a global empire. So I think there might. Again,

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Speaker 6: this is the conversation we talk about with the I

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Speaker 6: brought up how communism was said to have fail when

746
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Speaker 6: the Berlin ball fell, But China's still here, so that's it.

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Speaker 6: And they had more if you think about the population,

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Speaker 6: why they had more Communists than the so reunioned it. So,

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Speaker 6: if anything, it might be a sign that European culture

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Speaker 6: has deep, deep rooted flaws that no matter what system

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Speaker 6: that they're practicing or or engage in, there's going to

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Speaker 6: be a short lifetime, a shelf life for it. But again,

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Speaker 6: the Chinese have consistently been Chinese people for five thousand

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Speaker 6: They have cultural continuity. They've been in Chinese for about

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Speaker 6: five thousand years, so I wouldn't bet against that. And

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Speaker 6: I think when we talk about what's next and how

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Speaker 6: do we prepare, I think, again, we all have talents

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Speaker 6: right now. And I say this in jest sometimes, but

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Speaker 6: as powerful as the Chinese are, I've never heard anyone

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Speaker 6: say they want to be Chinese. I think that means

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Speaker 6: that the Chinese can be Chinese, we could be African,

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Speaker 6: and other people can be who they are and all

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Speaker 6: be in a world where we're able to participate in.

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Speaker 4: And I think the lie right there cause that interesting.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 1: I want you to dig down in that when we

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Speaker 1: get back. But we got to check the traffic weather.

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Speaker 4: That's interesting.

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Speaker 1: Nobody wants to be Chinese even though people want to.

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Speaker 1: On top of what does what does that mean for

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Speaker 1: us as a society? Family, interesting conversation here with brother

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Speaker 1: Saint Clair Skinner. You could join the discussion as well.

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Speaker 1: Just reach out to us at eight hundred four or

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Speaker 1: five zero seventy eight seventy six one ticket phone calls.

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Speaker 1: After the trafficking weather that's next and Grand Rising family,

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Speaker 1: thanks for waking up with us on this Monday morning

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Speaker 1: and the first Monday in November. I guess this Brother

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Speaker 1: Sinclair Skinner is just back from a trip to China,

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Speaker 1: and Brother Sinclair, my question to you before we left

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Speaker 1: the trafficking weather update, I was up.

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Speaker 4: Did you see because I know in Japan you see a.

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Speaker 1: Lot of you will see some Japanese, especially young folks,

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Speaker 1: young Japanese trying to become more europeanized to change their eyes,

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Speaker 1: their hair even blond, and you know, or that some

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Speaker 1: of even got afros, you know in Japan.

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Speaker 4: Did you see that in China?

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Speaker 6: Now you know? Now you said it. So my wife

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Speaker 6: is in the she knows this anime stuff. I wasn't

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Speaker 6: hip to it.

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Speaker 8: Like, so there's a whole thing like uh, these uh

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Speaker 8: is based in Japan. They you know, the other other

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Speaker 8: Asian countries I guess are engaged, but they have like

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Speaker 8: these characters, and some of them have are straight European.

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Speaker 6: And they also have like I saw people with yellow

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Speaker 6: contact lenses. So yellow is not a contact lens of

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Speaker 6: any particular group. But in these animations that that I see,

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Speaker 6: this anime is a big deal. They have all kinds

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Speaker 6: of characters and that to me seem more Eurocentric uh

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Speaker 6: than they are even in some ways Asian. So I

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Speaker 6: did see some of that.

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Speaker 4: That's interesting.

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Speaker 1: Why supremaciay all around the world is that for many

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Speaker 1: tall states all around it just wasn't you know.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a global you know, it's a global phenomena.

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Speaker 6: But I think what's happening, and this is the part

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Speaker 6: of it that's probablymatic. Trump is actually showing the flaws

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Speaker 6: in some of this, like this actually hear about the

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Speaker 6: United States and then seeing Trump's behavior, I think he

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Speaker 6: does more to undermine white supremacy than anybody. Like it's

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Speaker 6: almost like what we've seen, you know, with the tragedies

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Speaker 6: that we've seen in the Middle East, that with so

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Speaker 6: much of that has done is put a spotlight on

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Speaker 6: Israel in a way that undermines what they initially wanted

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Speaker 6: to show. They wanted to show Israel is a victim

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Speaker 6: in Israel is being but what people have seen and

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Speaker 6: ken unsee is literally babies being killed. So it's one

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Speaker 6: of those things where I think Trump's behavior, Biden's behavior,

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Speaker 6: I think the end of empire. You see these, you know,

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Speaker 6: desperate actions that create some level of undermining the whole notion,

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Speaker 6: not the whole notion, but it does require them to

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Speaker 6: now put even more energy and advancing White's permise ideology

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Speaker 6: because the contradictions are so dissipate, layering. Like again, you

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Speaker 6: know Quarma Terreyus talk about the contradictions, but literally they're

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Speaker 6: so in your face that the United States is not

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Speaker 6: about human rights. They used to say that, they could

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Speaker 6: say it or would try.

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Speaker 9: To say it that they're here to help.

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Speaker 6: But USAID has been found to have been used to overthrow,

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Speaker 6: undermine destabilized countries, just like the CIA has. And now

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Speaker 6: you see what the weapons continue and the vetos that

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Speaker 6: you see in the United Nations. That again, or even

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Speaker 6: with this recent the Norway gave the Nobel Peace Prize

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Speaker 6: to the head opposition leader in Venezuela who's calling she's

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Speaker 6: calling for the violent overthrow of a government. Like these

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Speaker 6: contradictions are being you know, put in them place where

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Speaker 6: people can now openly see them. So even when we

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Speaker 6: say white supremacistilities, I think it's clear it does. But

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Speaker 6: I think more than any time globally, people are seeing

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Speaker 6: that these things are all I mean, are mostly live.

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Speaker 6: And again not just with Trump, Biden was part of that.

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Speaker 6: So when people or even Obama with the killing of

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Speaker 6: momark A Daffi, like, these are all things that really

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Speaker 6: point to this is a lie. And now that we

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Speaker 6: know the truth, what do we do? And so I

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Speaker 6: think that's even with the young people in China, they're

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Speaker 6: being raised in a China that's very powerful as opposed

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Speaker 6: to just one generation ago where they were in a country.

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Speaker 6: You know, we talked about the first World and third World.

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Speaker 6: A lot of people don't remember, and this is like

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Speaker 6: part of the non alliance movement stuff, that there was

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Speaker 6: a second world. The first world was so called Western nations.

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Speaker 6: Third world was so called underdeveloped. Of course, I think

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Speaker 6: there's only one world, of clear God made one world.

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Speaker 6: But the second.

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Speaker 5: World was really.

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Speaker 6: Those warsaw pack Eastern Europe, China and the communist countries

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Speaker 6: that were more developed a state operated but not as

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Speaker 6: developed as so called the West. China's well passed second World,

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Speaker 6: and they're head of the first World. So these young

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Speaker 6: people are really and then they no longer have that

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Speaker 6: one child policy. I saw little Chinese babies all over

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Speaker 6: the place. They was taking the babies everywhere, So I

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Speaker 6: think what we've seen. And when I was in Shanghai

864
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 6: back in the twenty ten, it got so bad with

865
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 6: the smog they had to shut down the highway for

866
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 6: several hours and the airport had because it was so

867
00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 6: much smog from all the industrialization. Well that was a phase.

868
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 6: I looked at it now they had air quality that

869
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 6: was amazing. So again I think the Chinese experience, what

870
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 6: they've been doing is again it evolves, and I think

871
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,439
Speaker 6: the same thing that we got to have. I don't

872
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 6: say have patience with ourselves, but I think we've done

873
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 6: some of the same things. I think we're we're definitely

874
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 6: because we're dealing with a lot of psychops and people

875
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 6: trying to use you know, propaganda to harm us. But

876
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 6: we as a people, what we've resisted and gone through

877
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 6: with white supremacy in the belly of the beast of

878
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 6: white supremacy has been nothing short of magnificent, amazing. That

879
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 6: doesn't mean it's not without failure. That's doesn't mean that

880
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 6: it's not without issues that we've got to overcome. But

881
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 6: what we did that's fundamentally is not die like this

882
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 6: white supremacist thing is killed whole people, you know, Native America,

883
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 6: so called average Like, what we fundamentally did is made

884
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 6: sure that they didn't take us off the map. And

885
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 6: they tried in so many ways, chemical warfare, biological, they've

886
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:15,439
Speaker 6: done everything to kill us, and we still here. There's

887
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 6: no fat man or fat lad you're gonna sing on

888
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 6: us ever. So I mean for us is now, Yes,

889
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 6: we've got things to work on, but I think it's

890
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 6: really contextually what we've been able to do in spite

891
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 6: of everything that's been done to try to destroy us

892
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 6: is pretty amazing. And the fact, again we talk about

893
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 6: Chinese cultural continuity, the fact that Africans in America, no

894
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 6: matter how you call yourself, we've consistently had a connection

895
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 6: to Africa in spite of everything they tried to tell

896
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 6: us about Africa being horrible, all the things that, you know,

897
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 6: they didn't come rescue us with a boat, Brothers and

898
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 6: sistem of the continent whatever they didn't do, and it

899
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 6: was Brothers since it's involved all that we've kept a

900
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 6: consistent connection. They couldn't destroy that they wanted to destroy.

901
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 6: You know, they called us the Nigro, taking away all

902
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 6: our cultural contexts. So the fact that they've done everything

903
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 6: to try to destroy us and we're still consistently resisting

904
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 6: with ebbs and flows with you know something we had

905
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 6: some good years and some years better, but they can't.

906
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 6: You know. I just got back from Tuskegee's homecoming, you know,

907
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 6: and Auburn University is right up the street from Tuskegee,

908
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 6: and they got state funding and they're super huge. And

909
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 6: then I just bought two houses in a place called Greenwood.

910
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 6: The first Greenwood was not in Tulsa. It was in Tuskegee.

911
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 6: And you know, you think about all the towns, the

912
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 6: black towns that were destroyed. Tuskegee from eighteen eighty one

913
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 6: has had the powerful experience of black leadership from Booker T. Washington.

914
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 6: Now that again, all these things that was done was

915
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 6: to erase places like Tuskegee. They failed. Do they erase

916
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 6: a lot of them?

917
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 10: Yes?

918
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 9: What is a lot?

919
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 6: One is too many for me. So my point is

920
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,720
Speaker 6: what we've been able to do in spite of the Chinese,

921
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 6: what they've been able to do with all the attacks

922
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 6: on their people with a box of rebellions and the opium,

923
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 6: where all those things were done to destroy them and

924
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 6: they still here. So we got to stop letting people,

925
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 6: I think, talk about our worst moments and then somehow

926
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 6: try to identify as based on that. I just say,

927
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 6: don't add nothing, but don't take nothing away. What we've

928
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 6: been able to do in the time period that we

929
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 6: were kidnapped, taking all these things done, the genocides done

930
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 6: here in so called North America, for us to still

931
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 6: be in our right mind talking about self determination, sovereignty

932
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 6: and loving and joy and the energy we have and

933
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 6: connection to God. It's supernatural. It's really amazing. And those

934
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 6: who are are so called enemies, they know, they know

935
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 6: who we are. They don't want to compete against us.

936
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 6: That's why they pull out all these tricks and all

937
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 6: these you know back like even with Trump talking about

938
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 6: the Venezuela is trying to overthrow, you know, after they

939
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 6: killed Hugo Chavez and now Duro. Literally the stopping the

940
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,879
Speaker 6: drugs is a real thing that if you hear him

941
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 6: say what he's saying, he's lying about what he's doing

942
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 6: to Venezuela. But I don't understand why we all want

943
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 6: to make sure that cocaine doesn't get to America. And

944
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 6: cocaine can't be grown in North America. It's impossible. It

945
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 6: needs a certain altitude and a certain tropical climate. So

946
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 6: if any Congressional Black Caucus member, any people like literally,

947
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 6: we all should be saying, how do we stop cocaine?

948
00:55:55,280 --> 00:56:00,040
Speaker 6: Because the people involved in the trafficking of cocaine you

949
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 6: have to have some level of complicity with the government

950
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 6: because the financial side, the stuff I learned from bitcoins,

951
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 6: you can't move that amount of money. I mean, the

952
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 6: US dob they don't trade cocaine and pay those right.

953
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 6: It's a USD which is controlled by the Federal Reserve,

954
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 6: so that you can't move that without some level of complicity.

955
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 6: So instead of him blowing up these little boats, you know,

956
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 6: without giving people the right to say they're not guilty,

957
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 6: or if you think about it, if he really thought

958
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 6: they had drugs, instead of blowing them up, you think

959
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 6: they would actually, you know, arrest those people and use

960
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,359
Speaker 6: the evidence as a way to verify that they did

961
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 6: have drugs. But they're just going around killing people like

962
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 6: this is all war crimes, This is all crimes against humanity.

963
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 6: But I'm just saying the issue of drugs is something

964
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 6: that we could as a you know, as a people,

965
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 6: get behind the fact that, yes, there's drugs being allowed

966
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 6: to come into the United States. Now they don't come

967
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 6: to Venezuela. They say much of it comes through the

968
00:56:55,960 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 6: Pacific side. But literally all those tankers, I mean those

969
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 6: ships that are having all those containers on them, there's

970
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 6: no way that you can have this amount of cocaine

971
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 6: coming in America without it being a part of some

972
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 6: large supply chain. It's not Julio and Ray Ray and

973
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 6: Jojo making this happen. This is all at a corporate level.

974
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 6: So again, I think when we talk about what China

975
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 6: is going through, what we've gone and going through, these

976
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:29,919
Speaker 6: are all journeys. The Chinese are still here and we're

977
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 6: still here, and we're not going anywhere, and we're not

978
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 6: going to sit stand.

979
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: Here because we're a special people. As doctor Anderson fourteen

980
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: right to the top day with Brother Sinclair Skinner just

981
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 1: back from China, we're talking about international offics. You know

982
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: what I've noticed, little brother Sinclair, for I take a

983
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: call fee. It seems so when it comes to international issues,

984
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: our people take a back seat, not just you know,

985
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: on the local level, but even at the national level

986
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 1: as well. You know, you guys can deal with health

987
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 1: and education or with homeless and all that other stuff,

988
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: but when it comes into national we don't get a

989
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: bite of the apple.

990
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 3: Have you noticed that?

991
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 6: Yeah? It's kind of amazing because we're literally a product

992
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 6: of bad US foreign policy, wicked form like us being

993
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 6: in so called America is a part of a literal

994
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 6: foreign policy. The Transatlantic slave trade is an actual foreign policy,

995
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 6: and the fact that we're not more engaged in foreign

996
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 6: policy is just really remarkable to me.

997
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: All Right, fifteen A half the top there. Let's take

998
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 1: a call for you come up on a breakfield. So

999
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: let's go to West Palm Beach and carls waiting for us.

1000
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 1: He's online to Grand Rise and call you on with

1001
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 1: brother Saint Clair Skinner.

1002
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,959
Speaker 10: Black Sylar Derey today and build the Skinner. I wanted

1003
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 10: to take and ask you to if you could utilize

1004
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 10: that thought process that you utilized earlier for Africa. As

1005
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 10: you related how they were all these different countries. All

1006
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 10: they needed to do was established some kind of railroad

1007
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 10: or something to themselves so that they can do some

1008
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 10: development amongst themselves. Immediately made me to think about the

1009
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 10: effort that doctor Claude Anderson was trying to provide for

1010
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 10: those of us who are in the United States when

1011
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 10: he was talking about drawing the railway through Alabama, Mississippi

1012
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 10: and and those other areas. And as he developed the railroad,

1013
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 10: you would be developing of the business district at each

1014
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 10: stop that they would make. Then, also, how he was

1015
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 10: talking about the fishery, and we know that we are

1016
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 10: the number one eat is a seafood apparently here in America.

1017
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 10: And you get brought about the whole host of thought

1018
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 10: processes that could possibly help those of us in America

1019
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 10: if we could see the need to join together because

1020
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 10: we're losing a lot of areas in the major metropolitan

1021
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 10: city and if now we could develop the new farmland

1022
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 10: or whatever it is that we need for ourselves. And

1023
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 10: like you said earlier, it is a time wherein that

1024
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 10: Trump is providing us with the spirit and possibly division

1025
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 10: where we could see it if we have somebody to

1026
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 10: exalt that. Because I thought it was wonderful the way

1027
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 10: that you designed that for Africa. But if you could

1028
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 10: take that same concept and utilize that for the various

1029
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 10: states that we have, and how you could pull us together?

1030
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 10: And what do you think about such an idea of

1031
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 10: that manga too?

1032
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: All right, hold the thing right there, Carl, brother Sinclaly,

1033
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 1: we got to step aside for a few moments. I'll

1034
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 1: let you respond to Carl's question on the other side. Family,

1035
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 1: you two can join this conversation. Like Carl in West

1036
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 1: Palm Beach, Florida. Reach out to us at eight hundred

1037
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 1: four or five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll

1038
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 1: take a phone calls next and Grand Rising family, thanks

1039
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 1: for starting your week with us. I guess it's Brother

1040
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 1: Sinclair Skinner and this is Black Solidarity Day. This is

1041
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 1: a day with no absence. So we all started from

1042
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: a play that you know, the African Americans would sit

1043
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 1: out and would not go to work, go to school

1044
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: on this day, and they always do it the day

1045
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 1: before election day in November. So this is Black Solidarity

1046
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 1: Day for those few who don't understand why. It's been

1047
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 1: celebrated and started in New York, and it was big

1048
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 1: in New York in the nineties, but now sort of

1049
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 1: fizzled out because the people who are pushing it left

1050
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: the stage, if you will. Twenty one minutes off the

1051
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 1: top of you before we left, we're speaking with Carl

1052
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 1: in West Palm Beach, Florida and Brother Sinking.

1053
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 4: Do you remember his question.

1054
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, he was talking about doing the connecting of our

1055
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 6: people here in North America like I was describing with

1056
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 6: the connection of Africans and African people on the continent.

1057
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 6: I will just say this, I think when people you

1058
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 6: know I'm a Pan Africanist, my contract is a little different.

1059
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 6: I think us organizing any and everywhere is important. So

1060
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 6: I think the part I disagree with is that we

1061
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 6: say organized here in a settler colony that was colonized

1062
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 6: by Europeans, even though there were African people here before

1063
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 6: they came. The construct that we're living in is an

1064
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 6: oppressive one, and I think that it has a short life.

1065
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 6: I don't think settler colonialism is something that's sustainable, and

1066
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 6: I think the demise of settler colonialism is inevitable. So

1067
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 6: I don't know if it's not if it's when that

1068
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 6: colonial enterprise fails. I don't want our people to be

1069
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 6: somehow feeling like we got to keep it standing instead

1070
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 6: of being willing to move into a new world where

1071
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 6: it's without the so called colonialism. So, like I said,

1072
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 6: I just was at Tuskey's homecoming and I bought some

1073
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 6: properties there, and you have students, ve students staying there.

1074
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 6: We're moving in some staffs from Tuskegon, and again we're

1075
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 6: trying to be affordable, something helpful, a way to give back.

1076
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Speaker 6: This is Alabama, Macon County. So I don't think I

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Speaker 6: agree with the brother that we can organize our people

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Speaker 6: in the South. But my disagreement would be I would

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01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 6: never limit I don't think God cursed us to have

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01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 6: to stay in North America. Let me say, like that.

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01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 6: I don't think God cursed us to have to be

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01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 6: in one place. I think you can live here a

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01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 6: part of the year, another place a part of the year.

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Speaker 6: I think we have to get outside of the colonial construct.

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01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 6: African people were the first to circumnavigate the world. We've

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01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 6: been all over. We just din't colonize people. So when

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01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 6: we get so tied to a land mass called North America,

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01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 6: in a country that's based on settled colonialism, I think

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01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 6: there might be some inherent flaws in our premise. But

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Speaker 6: I think the collective conversations about how do we organize,

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01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 6: I think shows that our resilience that no matter what

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01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 6: we go through as a people, we see ourselves as

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01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 6: a collective and are willing to fight for that self determination.

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01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 6: But I would think that again, as the brother mentioned,

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01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 6: we can do that collectiveness here in the United States,

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01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 6: we can advocate it for on the continent of Africa.

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Speaker 6: We can advocate that in the Caribbean. And we got

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01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 6: brothers and sisters who've experienced a hurricane. Now I'm not

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Speaker 6: from Jamaica, but that doesn't mean I know the boat.

1100
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 6: Would Jesse say the boat there was not a Jamaican boat.

1101
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 6: There was one boat that dropped some folks off in

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Speaker 6: Jamaica and then it came all the way up here.

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01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 6: We just won boat ride from being Haitian or Jamaican.

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Speaker 6: So I think contextually, I think our connection is more

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01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 6: fluid than the rigid. Saying that these states that we

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01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 6: didn't even create, that we're somehow bound to making County

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01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 6: Alabama with bookst Washington and founded Tuskegee will always be important,

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01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 6: I think an important part of our legacy as a people.

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01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 6: And I think connecting back elevating that because it's still

1110
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 6: about ninety nine nine percent a black town, that we

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01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 6: should elevate any organized group. And they just got a

1112
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 6: new mayor, Chris Lee, who just got elected last month.

1113
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 6: So I think spending time and energy in places where

1114
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 6: we have high populations with black folks, I think it

1115
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 6: will always be correct. But that's global. I don't think

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01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 6: it's just locally.

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Speaker 1: Twenty five on the top. I thank you, Carl, Thank

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01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 1: you Carl brother and Claire. Let's let's go about I

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01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 1: Love Black People campaign. Can you tell the little family

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Speaker 1: how you started it, why you started it?

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Speaker 6: Absolutely so. The work that we started in the tech

1122
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 6: space was connected to how do we allow our brothers

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01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 6: and sisters in Zimbabwe and the continent of Africa to

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01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 6: send money all over the world, and in that time period,

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01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 6: we were looking at bitcoin as a key part of

1126
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 6: doing that to replace the Western unions and the money

1127
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 6: grams that literally had a duopoly in exploiting our people.

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01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 6: In doing that, we realized it wasn't just just the

1129
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 6: issue sending money back and forth. We were working on

1130
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 6: some projects with ethanol in Zimbabwe and just couldn't move

1131
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 6: the money. But what we realized is just really a

1132
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 6: black tax on black people globally and not just in

1133
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 6: our transactions, in every aspect of our lives. And we

1134
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 6: saw the green Book model.

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01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 11: Where brothers and sisters were able to leverage something that

1136
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 11: wasn't created by the government, wasn't created by churches. It

1137
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 11: was actually created by independent business people who literally saw

1138
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 11: the importance not of circulating the dollar black dollar. It

1139
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 11: wasn't something as superficial as that. It was about making

1140
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 11: sure black lives were not being murdered and harassed and humiliated.

1141
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 11: So we saw that there was a bigger context that

1142
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 11: we could leverage technology to connect and create a global

1143
01:06:56,800 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 11: safety net. In the original Green Book focused on transportation,

1144
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 11: and places to stay and places to eat.

1145
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 6: We expanded that to include health care, legal finance, education slash, childcare,

1146
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 6: and beauty, and we said, look in these key areas

1147
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 6: of people activity, we want to make sure there are

1148
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 6: people do not have to be harmed by humiliating and

1149
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 6: that these are such important aspects of their lives. They

1150
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 6: need to be able to go about the world fearlessly.

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01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 6: As it relates to this, and when I think go

1152
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 6: about the world, I'm saying even where they lived. We

1153
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 6: saw during COVID that there were local healthcare providers that

1154
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 6: were mistreating black patients and black folks who needed help.

1155
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 6: And it doesn't matter if you're traveling. But we realized

1156
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 6: the original Green Book, even though it was focused on travel,

1157
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 6: travel is just one human vulnerability, meaning that when you're

1158
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 6: someplace and you don't know know anyone, you're vulnerable. You're

1159
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:10,919
Speaker 6: more vulnerable so that your decisions need to be as

1160
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 6: good as possible because you don't know anyone, and consequences

1161
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 6: if you do something can be more harmful. Well, we

1162
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 6: see vulnerabilities. If you're sick, you're vulnerable. If you make

1163
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 6: your wrong decision, it could be life threatening. Legal, if

1164
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 6: you have somehow the government or someone is trying to

1165
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:37,480
Speaker 6: arm you or take your rights away. That's your vulnerable.

1166
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:40,680
Speaker 6: You need to be able to make good decisions. So

1167
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 6: you need to have places and people who are going

1168
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 6: to respect you as a human being. So what we

1169
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 6: saw is that that global safety that has never been

1170
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 6: created and that lawless technology. They got technology to help

1171
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 6: dogs out, technology to help you with your weight. We

1172
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 6: need to leverage technology to help protect each other from

1173
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 6: the harms and humiliations of racism and afrophobia. And we

1174
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 6: call afrophobia the irrational fear or hatred of people perceived

1175
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 6: to be of African descent. And we say perceived to

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01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 6: be of African descent because the people who are harming

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01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 6: us don't ask you where you're from, you know, like

1178
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 6: they say when they pull you over. They're not asking

1179
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 6: all that are you Baptists or Muslim? Okay? So for

1180
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 6: us the issue is again and we say perceived also

1181
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 6: because some people don't call themselves African. I've been to

1182
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 6: Peru plenty of African people are black people, and literally

1183
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 6: they don't They've never been African, so they have no association.

1184
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 6: But you say black, they clear on what a black

1185
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 6: is so again, we're literally saying that we're going to

1186
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 6: pull together this over one point five billion people globally

1187
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 6: and create a safety net so that we don't have

1188
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 6: to again go through this harm and humiliation. And we

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01:09:57,040 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 6: do it by crowdsourcing. Now, when Victor Green started the

1190
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:03,640
Speaker 6: Green Book in nineteen thirties and then call it crowdsourcing,

1191
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:06,639
Speaker 6: but that's the word that we use now. And we're

1192
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 6: now at the point I think we got over thirty

1193
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:15,639
Speaker 6: some thousand recommendations and we have over like I think

1194
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 6: seventy thousand people who signed up. We're at the critical

1195
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:23,760
Speaker 6: point where we're going to launch the actual app officially

1196
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 6: at the end of this month. I think our date

1197
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 6: that we have right now is November twenty ninth, and

1198
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 6: we're going to launch it and you're going to see

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01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:35,720
Speaker 6: it being promoted in more places. But we're at the

1200
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 6: point where we want to make sure as many of

1201
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:41,680
Speaker 6: our brothers and sisters who are looking for ways that

1202
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 6: they can help build a safety net for our people,

1203
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:47,640
Speaker 6: no matter where they are in the world, that they

1204
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:50,560
Speaker 6: can leverage the I Love Black People and then go

1205
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:54,800
Speaker 6: to iOS, they can go on to Google Play. We're

1206
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 6: right now wrapping up what you call beta testing, So

1207
01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 6: when you downloaded, if you got any problems, we have

1208
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 6: a little question icon if you've got any issues that

1209
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 6: you see on the app. We want to have everything

1210
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 6: just right before we do this official launch, but we're

1211
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 6: getting very very close, and we know that with our community,

1212
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 6: we want to be when we launch it having as

1213
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:19,720
Speaker 6: much of it right because you know how we are.

1214
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:23,440
Speaker 6: We're more critical about our apps than we are about Facebook,

1215
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 6: and these other apps that aren't created by Pan Africanists

1216
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:30,559
Speaker 6: aren't meant to help us and they oftentimes shadow ban us.

1217
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 6: So with I Love Black People App, this is going

1218
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:35,719
Speaker 6: to be and it's free. We'll never charge black people

1219
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 6: to be safe from racism or aprophobia. So literally, the

1220
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 6: businesses that are on the app have to be recommended.

1221
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 6: You can't pay your way onto our app. You have

1222
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:50,599
Speaker 6: to be recommended. And again another thing that we're asking

1223
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 6: our folks who download our app go and validate the

1224
01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 6: places that have already been recommended. If you think those

1225
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 6: places are black friendly, to make sure that you were

1226
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 6: recommend them too, because when you go on our app,

1227
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 6: the businesses that have the most recommendations were being at

1228
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 6: the top in that area. And in order to kind

1229
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 6: of incentivize folks that you know, to stay on track

1230
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 6: is we have a point system. Every time you open

1231
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 6: the app, you get points every time you refer to somebody,

1232
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 6: because it's not just the safe places, it's us building

1233
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 6: a global network or relations of Pan African people all

1234
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:37,639
Speaker 6: over the world. So now we'll get to the point

1235
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 6: when you go to a particular city, it could be Compiling, Uganda,

1236
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 6: it could be copenhad Hay in Denmark, you'll be able

1237
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 6: to identify the I Love Black People there if you

1238
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 6: need some help. We did this very much like I said,

1239
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 6: when we were dealing with students with members of I

1240
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 6: Love Black People when the Ukraine War started and we

1241
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 6: were helping them transition from Ukraine to Poland to either

1242
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 6: Germany or back to their home country. When we have

1243
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 6: people who are not just black but people of common interest,

1244
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:12,560
Speaker 6: we can really do a lot. So it's one of

1245
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:15,559
Speaker 6: those things where we're at the critical point. We definitely

1246
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 6: need you to download the app, use it like you know,

1247
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 6: get get you know on board with how we are

1248
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 6: moving around. We have a Saturday meeting that we have

1249
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:34,840
Speaker 6: ten o'clock Eastern time every Saturday. Uh Doctor Tyrene Wright,

1250
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 6: who you've had on your show many times. She leads

1251
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:40,560
Speaker 6: a Pan African history class, and we have meetings with

1252
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 6: our members from all over the globe talking about key

1253
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 6: issues so that we make sure that our people are

1254
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:51,640
Speaker 6: up to date with what's happening and have basically an

1255
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 6: interaction beyond just the digital You know, of course everything

1256
01:13:56,000 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 6: that we're doing is an app centered approach, but this

1257
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 6: absent or approach is for real world experiences. So we

1258
01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:07,720
Speaker 6: want to make sure we're leveraging the digital world to

1259
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 6: improve our quality of their life in the real world.

1260
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 1: Right twenty six minutes away from the top of our family,

1261
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 1: just checking in. I guess it's Sinclair Skin that we're

1262
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 1: talking about his app I Love Black People. It's a

1263
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 1: campaign he started, he said, he started when he saw

1264
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 1: how African students were treated in Ukraine. And what it

1265
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 1: is if it identifies black friendly places or persons or

1266
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 1: or events that you can go to and you won't

1267
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:35,599
Speaker 1: you won't, you won't feel like you're getting shafted. It's

1268
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 1: pretty in the use of that term. These people are

1269
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 1: black friendly and not necessarily all black.

1270
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 6: Am I correcting saying that, Yeah, So this is the

1271
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 6: context we say, is Pan African friendly. So you could

1272
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 6: be let's say Denmark, Copenhagen, and there might not be

1273
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 6: a black doctor there, but it might be a Mongolian

1274
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 6: woman doctor that all the black folks in that area

1275
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 6: go to because she treats him with ility in respect.

1276
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:03,600
Speaker 6: Or you can be in Thailand and it might not

1277
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 6: be a black lawyer there, but you get into legal trouble,

1278
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:12,640
Speaker 6: but there's a lawyer from Malaysia that works in Bangkok

1279
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 6: and you get access to a good lawyer. So every

1280
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 6: place that you go may not have a black owned

1281
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 6: establishment that's helpful. So our thing is just like the

1282
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 6: original green Book. In the original Green Book, people mistake

1283
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 6: it for a black business directory. It wasn't. Throughout the

1284
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 6: course of the thirty some years that it was available,

1285
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 6: they had many non black businesses. Because again you're talking

1286
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 6: about the entire United States States doing you know, Jim

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Speaker 6: Crow us apartheid. So the issue was about are these

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Speaker 6: places going to harm us? And so often people talk

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Speaker 6: about the negative, who's not treating us right? It's a

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Speaker 6: fair conversation, but the Green Book was about those that

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Speaker 6: did treat us right. So it wasn't a place where.

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Speaker 1: You, yeah, we got to take the break. When we

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Speaker 1: come back, though, answer this question for me. How do

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Speaker 1: you vet the people that are placed in the I

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Speaker 1: Love Black People book or campaign. It's digital, so it's online,

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Speaker 1: So how do you vet them? Because you know it's

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Speaker 1: sad to say, we've got some people who don't like

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Speaker 1: to play by the rules and may decide to take

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Speaker 1: advantage of what's going on. And I'll let you answer

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Speaker 1: that question when we get back. As I mentioned, it's

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Speaker 1: twenty four minutes away from the top day our foundly

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Speaker 1: we got to check the latest and news, trafficking, weather

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Speaker 1: on different cities. If you want to join this conversation

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Speaker 1: with brother sint Claire Skinner, reach out to us at

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Speaker 1: eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six. I

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Speaker 1: want to take your phone calls next and Grand Rising family,

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Speaker 1: thank you for joining us this morning. Black Solidarity to

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Speaker 1: Day Black Solidarity Dales takes place in the monday before

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Speaker 1: general elections. It started back in nineteen sixty nine. This

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Speaker 1: is what we're observing today with our guest brother Sinclair Skinner,

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Speaker 1: before we go back to and no, let me just

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Speaker 1: remind you coming up later this morning, we're gonna speak

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Speaker 1: with the Professor Maynu and pin Professor Ampin. For those

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Speaker 1: who don't know as one who discover that the Willy

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01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 1: Lynch letter was a fraud. He's going to talk about

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Speaker 1: Trump threatning to send troops into Nigeria and what's going

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Speaker 1: on in the Sedan. And later this week you're gonna

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Speaker 1: hear from chematologist Tony Browner, Holistic, the healer, Queen a

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01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 1: Fool will be with us. Queen a Fool Well speaks

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Speaker 1: with us, and also civil rights activist that doctor Paul

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Speaker 1: Smith will be here. He marched with doctor King and

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Speaker 1: Andy Young. They all got to be here this week.

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Speaker 1: So if you're in Baltimore, keep your radio locked in

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01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 1: tight on ten ten WLB, or if you're in the DMV,

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Speaker 1: we're on fourteen fifty w L. All right, brother Saint Claire,

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Speaker 1: My question to you is, how'd you fit the people

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Speaker 1: that are involved in the I Love Black People campaign?

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01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 1: How do you check them out? Make sure that they're

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Speaker 1: not scammers.

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Speaker 4: If you will.

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Speaker 6: So the first thing we do is to be a member,

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Speaker 6: you have to fill out a registration, so we have

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Speaker 6: to verify that your phone number is real and that

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Speaker 6: is connected to you. And we also make sure that

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Speaker 6: the rest of your data is connected, and so we

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Speaker 6: definitely just don't let anybody on to make a recommendation.

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Speaker 6: So that's what we do to verify a person being

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Speaker 6: a member. Now, in addition to that, we use what

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Speaker 6: we always used, really what the Green Book used was

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Speaker 6: that black people have been giving each other recommendations all

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Speaker 6: PRAF So in many ways, you know, you don't have

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Speaker 6: to be a culinary artist to recommend a restaurant. And

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Speaker 6: so we allow our members to make the recommendations and

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Speaker 6: they are the ones who are saying this is my

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Speaker 6: opinion about the place. So our focus in our and

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Speaker 6: what we're doing is taking something that's already done informally,

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Speaker 6: something that already was done with the Green Book, and

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Speaker 6: just digitizing it.

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Speaker 1: Now, so how do we get a copy? Stingcliar fourteen

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Speaker 1: away from the top, he how do we get a copy?

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Speaker 1: Is it all digital? Is all online?

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Speaker 6: So we do have every year we come out with

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Speaker 6: a greenment. Every year for the last five years, we've

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Speaker 6: come out with an actual green book called the Global

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Speaker 6: Green Book that we come out with every year, and

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Speaker 6: that one won't be ready for the next coming year

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Speaker 6: until January. But that being said, so you can definitely

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Speaker 6: go online right now and look up Global Green Book

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Speaker 6: and get a hard copy. But the difference between that

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Speaker 6: and app is fluid is constantly updated. You know, we

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Speaker 6: just again had some of our team at Howard Homecoming,

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Speaker 6: Tuskegee University's homecoming Afro Tech, and we have people signing

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Speaker 6: up registering at all these places to help this crowdsource,

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Speaker 6: and that's the focus. Let me also say that out loud, like,

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Speaker 6: we definitely want people who use the application to find

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Speaker 6: places that are Black friendly or when we say Pan

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Speaker 6: African friendly. But where we really are focusing on the

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Speaker 6: first phase of the official launch are those who are

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Speaker 6: looking to share information. Let me say another way, there

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Speaker 6: are people who may not go out here and protests.

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Speaker 6: There's people who may not go out here in March,

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Speaker 6: but they still want to make a difference in the

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Speaker 6: lives of black people. You may not belong to any

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Speaker 6: formal organization or clubs or church or religious abilities, but

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Speaker 6: if you want to share the doctor that you know

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Speaker 6: that you use that has always treated you with dignity

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Speaker 6: and respect, or the restaurant that you've always gone through

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01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 6: and they treated you with dignity and respect, share that

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Speaker 6: information with us. These are the things, little things that

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Speaker 6: we can do that don't cost any money but definitely

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Speaker 6: shows a priceless concern for the welfare of others. So

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Speaker 6: for us, the big thing is folks who are willing

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Speaker 6: to share. I went to tusk Ev and I went

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Speaker 6: to Howard, so I'm already part of an informal network

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Speaker 6: of folks. I'm a member fraternity like these. It's not

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Speaker 6: just for folks who went to universities and AHBC used.

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Speaker 6: We want to make sure all are people, the one

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Speaker 6: point five billion people of African descent globally can live

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Speaker 6: a life spiritlessly of these horrible things that racism and afrophobia.

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Speaker 6: So again, our big focus is doing something that has

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Speaker 6: never been done before, is create this global safety net

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Speaker 6: that's huge but literally well you know we need it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let me join me here at ten away. I'm

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Speaker 1: from the top of the AI, Brother Sinclair, do you

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Speaker 1: also put if somebody had a negative experience, say at

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Speaker 1: a restaurant, for example, and writes it, did you accept

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Speaker 1: that or just don't put anything at all? If it's negative,

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Speaker 1: you leave it out.

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Speaker 6: No, if it's negative, we leave it out. Like one

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Speaker 6: of the things that happened early even and it's actually

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Speaker 6: happening with other applications. It's easier to say something negative,

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Speaker 6: so someone says, don't go here. I think that's fair,

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Speaker 6: you know, Like we saw with Serena Williams. She literally

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Speaker 6: was almost killed by her doctor. Like she's rich, she's famous,

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Speaker 6: so very healthy, and she's even married to a white man,

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Speaker 6: and she still almost was killed by trying to give

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Speaker 6: birth to our first baby. So we're clear that this

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Speaker 6: is something that's actually going on, and we need to

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01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 6: know where not to go, but we need to also

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Speaker 6: know where to go. So after someone tell you don't

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Speaker 6: do this, I'm still sick, where do I go? So

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Speaker 6: our focus is on the positive. I think there's plenty

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Speaker 6: of places that people have found to say bad things,

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Speaker 6: negative things. Our thing is organizing the people who have

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Speaker 6: some positive things, and how do we not only build

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Speaker 6: this global safety net, but ultimately build a global mutual

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Speaker 6: aid society where our people can leverage their knowledge and

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Speaker 6: understanding what's going on to actually help us build something

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Speaker 6: that we don't need outside support to help each other,

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Speaker 6: Like we're looking at Jamaica right now. One of the

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Speaker 6: things that we'll be able to do after our official launch,

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Speaker 6: if anytime there's like a prices, we will already have

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Speaker 6: identified Pan African friendly businesses on the ground. Food is

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Speaker 6: one of our eight categories. So right now we're people

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Speaker 6: talking about they're going to work with these NGOs and nonprofits,

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Speaker 6: and we know a lot of these red crosses all

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Speaker 6: that a lot of that money goes overhead to some

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01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:24,639
Speaker 6: folks that are not related to the issues at hand,

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Speaker 6: and they give a couple of pennies to the people

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Speaker 6: on the ground that actually doing the hard work. Well,

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01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:33,720
Speaker 6: if we can leverage our network and then identify our

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Speaker 6: members on the ground, identify the black friendly spaces on

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Speaker 6: the ground, we literally can create an opportunity where we

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Speaker 6: can connect the people on the ground to resources outside

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Speaker 6: and actually help without going through a third party. So

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Speaker 6: when we start organizing safe spaces and black people who

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Speaker 6: are interested in safe spaces that care about other black people,

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Speaker 6: we don't need, you know, these these NGOs and these

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Speaker 6: nonprofits that are out here. You know, and now again

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Speaker 6: I'm not not going nonprofit. I'm saying that we have

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Speaker 6: the technology now to connect each other and those who

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Speaker 6: have the expertise without going outside of a Pan African

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01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:23,480
Speaker 6: construct we literally, if we have transportation that's already identified,

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Speaker 6: and we've got food that's already identified, we got healthcare

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01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:30,400
Speaker 6: providers already identified, and our members on the ground, we

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Speaker 6: literally could collaborate and support those people who are already

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Speaker 6: providing food and help them provide it to those who

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Speaker 6: need to help, and leverage the transportation people to help

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Speaker 6: make sure it gets to where they need to go.

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Speaker 6: This is all using our brains, the Pan African unity

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01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 6: that we're talking about, through a digital platform like our app,

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01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:59,080
Speaker 6: in a way that almost becomes like an Uber or

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01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 6: Airbnb of safe blackness, so that no matter where we go,

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01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:07,639
Speaker 6: we can be fearless and we can leverage our energies,

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Speaker 6: our abilities in a very focused, coordinated way. We talk

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Speaker 6: about again ready talk about organized organized. We're leveraging tools,

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Speaker 6: modern tools. The tool they used in the Green Book

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Speaker 6: was a book that could be copyrighted and people printed. Well,

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01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:27,479
Speaker 6: we've now gone to the place where we not only

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01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:30,879
Speaker 6: have a place to store their information, but we actually

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Speaker 6: can coordinate the information. The original Green Book didn't allow that.

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Speaker 6: It's almost like a hard copy database. We now can

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Speaker 6: collaborate with those on our database and the people who

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01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 6: recommended these spaces to actually carry out activities. We could

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01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 6: literally create our own global school system leveraging the Black

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Speaker 6: friendly pet African friendly schools and educators. We could create

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Speaker 6: our own healthcare system by coordinating the recommended healthcare providers.

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Speaker 6: So there's things that we can do actively by leveraging

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Speaker 6: this network. And that's where I say, people you know,

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Speaker 6: are always talking about social media and Instagram and all

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Speaker 6: these things those and I'm not knocking TikTok, but singing

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Speaker 6: and dancing is not to me the social engagement we need.

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Speaker 6: We need this social engagement that can protect each other.

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Speaker 6: And what we're going to be launching in the end

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Speaker 6: of this month is just that, with your support, we'll

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Speaker 6: be able to have, for the first time in the

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Speaker 6: history of the planet, a little safety net to protect

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Speaker 6: black people from the harms and humiliations of racism and

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01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:48,439
Speaker 6: afrophobia by coordinating those who are already interested in making

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Speaker 6: sure our people are safe.

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Speaker 1: Way, brother Sinclair, how are we going to get this

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Speaker 1: message out though? Because what you're talking about we have

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01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:02,360
Speaker 1: it's a global It's global because it is on the internet,

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01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:05,639
Speaker 1: and black folks are every era across the world. As

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01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:08,320
Speaker 1: you know, they we love all of them to be

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Speaker 1: You have the app on their phones, But how we're

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Speaker 1: going to reach them to know that I love black people.

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Speaker 1: App is out there that it's beneficial to them.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think again, it's everyone may not be what

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01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:24,720
Speaker 6: we get. What we want to get are those who

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Speaker 6: are sincere and serious. We want to collaborate, coordinate, curate

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01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:35,679
Speaker 6: with those who are looking for ways to get more

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01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:39,200
Speaker 6: reach to do more good for the least amount of

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01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:42,240
Speaker 6: money without us having to go get grants and things.

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Speaker 6: And what we call it in the text space is

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01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:48,719
Speaker 6: zero marginal growth. You have a barbershop and an accounting firm,

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Speaker 6: You got to get more bookkeepers to get more business.

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01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 6: You got to get more barbershop shares. What's great about technology?

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01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 6: If ten people are using the app, or ten million

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01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:01,600
Speaker 6: are using the app, zero marginal call to accommodate the

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01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:04,760
Speaker 6: ten to name in the ten. So what we can

1502
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 6: do with this space is that we can actually do

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01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:10,600
Speaker 6: more good for less than we probably ever could do

1504
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 6: in the history of the world. So again, folks, those

1505
01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:16,800
Speaker 6: people who are the critical mass of people who are

1506
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:23,280
Speaker 6: sincere about helping total strangers that they've never met like

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01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:25,760
Speaker 6: that group of people is the special part not the

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01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:28,920
Speaker 6: ones who want to sing and dance or debate or

1509
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:31,960
Speaker 6: talk about how much history they know. We want to

1510
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:35,000
Speaker 6: coordinate with those who are willing to take action. And

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01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:36,840
Speaker 6: I don't think it takes everyone to do that. I

1512
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:40,280
Speaker 6: think there's not a movement that we are a revolution

1513
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:44,400
Speaker 6: that everybody participated in. We need the early adopters. We're

1514
01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:47,639
Speaker 6: not here for folks who you know, like we give

1515
01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:52,679
Speaker 6: away T shirts and wristbands. We're not here for those

1516
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 6: who are just trying to do it for fun. We're saying,

1517
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:59,479
Speaker 6: if we have a hardcore group of Pan Africanists that

1518
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 6: help us build this, all black people, non pen african Is, bourgeoisie, negroes,

1519
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:09,400
Speaker 6: everybody can benefit the's in no way with the help

1520
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 6: of a hardcore few, we can benefit the collective. So

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01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:17,280
Speaker 6: this is why we say it's not right now.

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01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 1: Hold up, all right there, we got to check I'm

1523
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 1: looking at the clock. Well, we got to check the

1524
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:22,720
Speaker 1: trafficking weather in our different cities. When we come back, though,

1525
01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:26,000
Speaker 1: tell us, if you see a rise in Pan Afghanism

1526
01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:28,240
Speaker 1: now because you travel the globe, if you see more

1527
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:31,160
Speaker 1: and more people identify as being Pan Africanist, family, you

1528
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:33,200
Speaker 1: two can get it on this conversation with brother Saint

1529
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:35,479
Speaker 1: Clair Skinner. Reach out to us at eight hundred four

1530
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:38,600
Speaker 1: five zero seventy eight seventy six ticket calls after the

1531
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:41,560
Speaker 1: trafficking weather. That's name and Grand Rising family. Thanks for

1532
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:43,639
Speaker 1: starting your week with us. It's starting month of November

1533
01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 1: with us too. After the top, they MoMA, tell who're

1534
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:47,840
Speaker 1: going to speak with Professor may New I pin He's

1535
01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:50,400
Speaker 1: on deck. But right now with brother Saint Clair Skinner.

1536
01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:53,799
Speaker 1: Brother Saint Clair's a businessman also a humanitarian, travels the globe.

1537
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:56,599
Speaker 1: He's got a program called I Love Black People. Where

1538
01:29:56,920 --> 01:30:00,360
Speaker 1: it's in the digital field. That's where it is. Find

1539
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:03,320
Speaker 1: a black company or a black service that you enjoyed

1540
01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:05,160
Speaker 1: and you think it would be beneficial to the rest

1541
01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:07,880
Speaker 1: of the family, or just contact brother Sinclear is going

1542
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:10,960
Speaker 1: to give us that contact information in a moment. But

1543
01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:13,360
Speaker 1: before we left, though, my question to you, Brother Sinclic,

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01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:16,800
Speaker 1: since you're a world traveler, are you seeing a rise

1545
01:30:17,160 --> 01:30:20,519
Speaker 1: or surgeon pan Africanism across the continent as well as

1546
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:21,679
Speaker 1: the other countries that you visit.

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01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:25,559
Speaker 6: You know, I think that the how region where they

1548
01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:32,400
Speaker 6: rejected the French and I think there's there's definitely places

1549
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:36,680
Speaker 6: that I definitely see a change of our collective understanding

1550
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:39,320
Speaker 6: that we're part of a family and that we're not

1551
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:42,599
Speaker 6: just some nationalistic group. I've seen that. But I also

1552
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:45,360
Speaker 6: seen on the other side, we're you know, more folks

1553
01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:47,720
Speaker 6: and saying, well, I'm not from Africa. So I think

1554
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:50,720
Speaker 6: I've seen, you know, I think we can see this.

1555
01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:55,479
Speaker 6: I remember folks talking about octrous and quadrones, and I mean,

1556
01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:59,519
Speaker 6: I think we go through different episodes or it's kind

1557
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:03,439
Speaker 6: of episode where he was rising and falling a different sentiment.

1558
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:06,360
Speaker 6: But again, I said, loads of we don't surrender. We're

1559
01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:08,720
Speaker 6: going to be better than okay, like they're not going

1560
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:11,800
Speaker 6: to stop us. I think there again, there's things that

1561
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:14,679
Speaker 6: might distract us, but we're not going to be stopped.

1562
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:19,160
Speaker 6: You know again, I just left Tuskegee homecoming. I remember

1563
01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 6: wearing the shikis and my frat brothers would say, why

1564
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:24,400
Speaker 6: are you always walking around in your pajamas? Well, I

1565
01:31:24,439 --> 01:31:26,639
Speaker 6: don't hear that much anymore. They know what a dashiki

1566
01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:31,200
Speaker 6: is now. So I think there's a you know, levels

1567
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:34,880
Speaker 6: to this that are different. And I think even generationally,

1568
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:37,280
Speaker 6: I'm fifty six, you know, a lot of the gen

1569
01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:41,640
Speaker 6: X you know, especially the super successful ones with great GPAs,

1570
01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:46,040
Speaker 6: they bought into a system that was again where it

1571
01:31:46,280 --> 01:31:49,320
Speaker 6: was controlled by white supim's ideology. They wouldn't get their

1572
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:53,480
Speaker 6: degrees in engineering, they got their master's degree in business administration.

1573
01:31:54,240 --> 01:31:58,080
Speaker 6: And they all hit these ceilings and realize a lot

1574
01:31:58,120 --> 01:32:00,360
Speaker 6: of the things that we were told if we stayed

1575
01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:04,680
Speaker 6: in school didn't actually they weren't true. That literally, the

1576
01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:07,519
Speaker 6: most powerful thing that we were able to gain from

1577
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:12,160
Speaker 6: going to HPCU was each other, was our relationships. It

1578
01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:14,760
Speaker 6: wasn't the GPA, it wasn't a book, it wasn't even

1579
01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:19,360
Speaker 6: the class. It was each other and our experiences. So

1580
01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:21,760
Speaker 6: again I think, you know, if they don't call it

1581
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:26,280
Speaker 6: pen Africanism, they definitely use Pan Europeanism against us. They

1582
01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:30,519
Speaker 6: definitely Europeans do collectively come together to harm us. But

1583
01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:34,000
Speaker 6: even if you don't call it Pan Afghanism, I think

1584
01:32:34,040 --> 01:32:38,000
Speaker 6: there's a spirit that we have, an affinity that we

1585
01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:42,080
Speaker 6: have for each other that's supernatural. And again that sounds spooky,

1586
01:32:42,160 --> 01:32:45,000
Speaker 6: but I think again, when black folks see other black

1587
01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:48,120
Speaker 6: folks on TV doing something crazy, even if we don't

1588
01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:50,479
Speaker 6: even know them, black people, we feel a certain way.

1589
01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:53,680
Speaker 6: I've been with other cultures where they're indifferent if they

1590
01:32:53,680 --> 01:32:55,479
Speaker 6: don't know the person, why would I feel any kind

1591
01:32:55,479 --> 01:32:58,160
Speaker 6: of way. So I think no matter where I've been,

1592
01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:01,800
Speaker 6: there's been that supernatural connection to each other that we have,

1593
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:05,240
Speaker 6: and I think that has not been destroyed. And I

1594
01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:09,040
Speaker 6: think God has been very good to make us in

1595
01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:12,200
Speaker 6: that in that way, to be that strong and that

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01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:16,840
Speaker 6: spiritual in our connection that is again is impossible to

1597
01:33:16,880 --> 01:33:20,360
Speaker 6: stop us. Only people can stop us, is us. So

1598
01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:24,160
Speaker 6: again we call ourselves Pan Africanists, and we identify as

1599
01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:28,479
Speaker 6: Pan Africanists. I think there's definitely ups and downs in that,

1600
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:31,960
Speaker 6: but that energy that connects us and binds us, I

1601
01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:34,720
Speaker 6: think it's as powerful as it's ever been, and it's

1602
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:37,240
Speaker 6: beautiful and it feels so good to experience it.

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01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:42,599
Speaker 1: To that brother so brother Saint Clare. Folks who want

1604
01:33:42,640 --> 01:33:44,320
Speaker 1: to get involved, want to be part of it. I

1605
01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:46,760
Speaker 1: Love Black People campaign. How do they reach out? Is

1606
01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:48,240
Speaker 1: there a website? Email address?

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01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:51,519
Speaker 6: Yeah? Please? I Love Black People dot com. They can

1608
01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:55,840
Speaker 6: get on I Love Black People with iOS the Apple Store,

1609
01:33:55,960 --> 01:33:58,080
Speaker 6: or they can get us with the Google play Store.

1610
01:33:58,640 --> 01:34:01,720
Speaker 6: I Love Black People like They can contact us on

1611
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:05,160
Speaker 6: the phone two O two five five eight five to

1612
01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:09,200
Speaker 6: one four three two O two five five eight five

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01:34:09,240 --> 01:34:10,200
Speaker 6: to one four three.

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01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:11,120
Speaker 5: Uh.

1615
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:15,880
Speaker 6: We're based in Washington, DC as well as Hurraris, Zimbabwe,

1616
01:34:16,880 --> 01:34:19,559
Speaker 6: and we'd like they can get us on an email

1617
01:34:19,720 --> 01:34:23,640
Speaker 6: info at I Love Black People dot com info at

1618
01:34:23,680 --> 01:34:27,520
Speaker 6: I Love Blackpeople dot com. We have a presence on Instagram,

1619
01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:31,600
Speaker 6: but again Instagram is controlled by Mark Zuckerberg, who's not

1620
01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:35,080
Speaker 6: a Pan Africanist. We rather you engage us on our app.

1621
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:38,320
Speaker 6: We have a chat feature. It's very much like WhatsApp

1622
01:34:38,680 --> 01:34:41,840
Speaker 6: and Instagram. You can share and post and everything in

1623
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:44,320
Speaker 6: that way where we literally we don't want to have

1624
01:34:44,479 --> 01:34:47,639
Speaker 6: to depend on anyone else for us to be able

1625
01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:52,000
Speaker 6: to be connected. So leveraging and using our application, you

1626
01:34:52,160 --> 01:34:54,760
Speaker 6: literally don't have to worry about being shadow band or

1627
01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:57,880
Speaker 6: somebody trying to use this thing to try to harm us.

1628
01:34:58,280 --> 01:35:02,040
Speaker 6: So in a real way, we're really are building a

1629
01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:07,439
Speaker 6: virtual society based on the premise of protecting black people

1630
01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:11,360
Speaker 6: from racism and afrophobia. We're not just coming together to

1631
01:35:11,479 --> 01:35:14,040
Speaker 6: come together. We're not coming together to sing and dance.

1632
01:35:14,280 --> 01:35:16,320
Speaker 6: We're coming to create for the first time in the

1633
01:35:16,400 --> 01:35:20,760
Speaker 6: history of the planet of global safety. Now full stop, all.

1634
01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:23,080
Speaker 1: Right, thank you, brother Sinclair, thank you for the work

1635
01:35:23,080 --> 01:35:25,040
Speaker 1: that you do, always looking out for us, and you know,

1636
01:35:25,160 --> 01:35:27,080
Speaker 1: thank you for sharing with your travels. Let you just

1637
01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:30,120
Speaker 1: back from China. We travel with you vicariously so we

1638
01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:32,200
Speaker 1: understand what's going on and how they treat the brothers

1639
01:35:32,240 --> 01:35:34,960
Speaker 1: and sisters overseas. Thank you for sharing your thoughts with

1640
01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:35,599
Speaker 1: us this morning.

1641
01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:38,760
Speaker 6: Nanna, Thank you big brother Carl. Really, we love you,

1642
01:35:38,920 --> 01:35:40,800
Speaker 6: love you, love you, love your work, and we gotta

1643
01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:43,479
Speaker 6: we got to get more people in them archives. Man,

1644
01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:46,320
Speaker 6: you got a universe. We got to call you. Look,

1645
01:35:46,439 --> 01:35:49,880
Speaker 6: Carl Nelson University right here. We just need to get

1646
01:35:49,960 --> 01:35:52,679
Speaker 6: this thing out to all the people because they deserve

1647
01:35:52,720 --> 01:35:53,400
Speaker 6: it and they need it.

1648
01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:57,040
Speaker 1: All right, thank you for those kind words, sin Claire,

1649
01:35:57,400 --> 01:35:57,960
Speaker 1: thank you again.

1650
01:35:58,040 --> 01:36:01,080
Speaker 4: I'm ya, thanks you all right, Family eight af.

1651
01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:03,639
Speaker 1: The topic I was bringing that, Professor Main new Impim Professor.

1652
01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:06,559
Speaker 1: I'm penm grand Rising, Happy Black Soliday to day, welcome

1653
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:07,160
Speaker 1: to the program.

1654
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:10,200
Speaker 9: Well, good morning, brother Karl, I'm glad to be back.

1655
01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:12,479
Speaker 4: Yes, help us out here.

1656
01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:15,760
Speaker 1: You know, Donald Trump is threatening to send troops not

1657
01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:19,920
Speaker 1: only to Venezuela but also to Nigeria. Now he's upset

1658
01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:22,439
Speaker 1: what was going on in Nigeria. Help us out there

1659
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:25,520
Speaker 1: is there an ongoing conflict in Nigeria.

1660
01:36:26,479 --> 01:36:30,920
Speaker 9: Well, you know, well not not in the way that

1661
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:35,519
Speaker 9: it's being presented. I mean, there's instability in Nigeria, but

1662
01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:37,800
Speaker 9: that's been the case for a while. I mean many

1663
01:36:37,800 --> 01:36:42,120
Speaker 9: of the listeners may know back in twenty fourteen, Voko Haram,

1664
01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:49,400
Speaker 9: the Islamic extremists in the Northeast region of Nigeria, they

1665
01:36:50,520 --> 01:36:57,000
Speaker 9: kidnapped those girls back in twenty and fourteen, and they

1666
01:36:57,040 --> 01:37:00,200
Speaker 9: were at a Christian school and so the world has

1667
01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:04,040
Speaker 9: been aware of that that that these girls were were

1668
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:10,719
Speaker 9: actually kidnapped and by Boco Aram and and in fact,

1669
01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:14,200
Speaker 9: from that kidnapping, many are still are still missing. There

1670
01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:16,920
Speaker 9: was two hundred and seventy six girls between the ages

1671
01:37:16,960 --> 01:37:21,040
Speaker 9: of sixteen and eighteen that were kidnapped, and so bocal

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01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:25,560
Speaker 9: Waram these these are jihadis. They want to create this

1673
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:30,599
Speaker 9: Islamic state and take over the government. And so whether

1674
01:37:30,680 --> 01:37:36,000
Speaker 9: it's Christians or anybody in the country are under threat.

1675
01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:39,599
Speaker 9: But the Trump administration has made it as if they're

1676
01:37:39,880 --> 01:37:43,559
Speaker 9: just Christians that are being killed and this is really

1677
01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:46,080
Speaker 9: not what the international.

1678
01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:47,880
Speaker 6: The groups that.

1679
01:37:50,439 --> 01:37:54,639
Speaker 9: That monitor these issues are saying. It all so Trump

1680
01:37:54,680 --> 01:38:00,679
Speaker 9: said that Christianity is facing that extensive or extent threat

1681
01:38:00,840 --> 01:38:04,360
Speaker 9: in Nigeria. He said that thousands of Christians are being

1682
01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:09,240
Speaker 9: killed by radical Islamists and that Nigeria is now under

1683
01:38:09,320 --> 01:38:14,080
Speaker 9: the Country of Particular Concern. So this is an orchestrated

1684
01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:20,400
Speaker 9: campaign to destabilize Nigeria. It's not that there are not

1685
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:23,600
Speaker 9: some Christian deaths. There are that. It's not that some

1686
01:38:24,360 --> 01:38:27,360
Speaker 9: Christian churches are being burned. They are, but there's not

1687
01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:31,439
Speaker 9: a specific attack on Christians. In fact, there's been more

1688
01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:35,559
Speaker 9: Muslims that have died in Nigeria in the last couple

1689
01:38:35,600 --> 01:38:38,080
Speaker 9: of years than there has been Christians. So yes, there's

1690
01:38:38,120 --> 01:38:42,840
Speaker 9: definitely problems, there's conflict, and there's issues that people are

1691
01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:47,559
Speaker 9: concerned about. But the Trump administration is taking these Christian

1692
01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:51,640
Speaker 9: deaths out of context, and the media and some people in.

1693
01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:54,200
Speaker 3: But that are in.

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01:38:54,280 --> 01:38:57,639
Speaker 9: Congress are also participating in this ability or this effort

1695
01:38:57,760 --> 01:39:01,280
Speaker 9: to destabilize Nigeria. So this is what we should be

1696
01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:04,639
Speaker 9: concerned about. So Trump is going to continue to tweet

1697
01:39:04,760 --> 01:39:08,559
Speaker 9: out this propaganda as he's done now over the weekend,

1698
01:39:09,200 --> 01:39:13,200
Speaker 9: and so people, yes, there's concern, but this is not new.

1699
01:39:13,280 --> 01:39:18,320
Speaker 9: In fact, the deaths have actually decreased since twenty twenty three,

1700
01:39:18,560 --> 01:39:22,439
Speaker 9: So why are they now rapping up the propaganda because

1701
01:39:22,560 --> 01:39:24,840
Speaker 9: there's an agenda, So people should be aware of this.

1702
01:39:25,160 --> 01:39:30,679
Speaker 9: And I'm not minimizing deaths, but there's no singular target

1703
01:39:30,840 --> 01:39:33,559
Speaker 9: on Christians at all. But there's Christians in this country

1704
01:39:33,640 --> 01:39:37,080
Speaker 9: that get overlooked. In fact, if the focus is really

1705
01:39:37,520 --> 01:39:40,519
Speaker 9: on protecting Christians around the world, as Trump is saying,

1706
01:39:41,080 --> 01:39:45,200
Speaker 9: to protect, as he said, the great Christian population around

1707
01:39:45,240 --> 01:39:48,880
Speaker 9: the world, why don't he go to Asia. I mean,

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Speaker 9: he certainly can go to some of the Asian countries

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Speaker 9: and wage war if that is really the concern as

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01:39:55,280 --> 01:39:58,080
Speaker 9: opposed to Nigeria only. So this is what we really

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01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:01,240
Speaker 9: should have. Some question it was about, is why is

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Speaker 9: he focusing on that one country when, uh, there are

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01:40:06,200 --> 01:40:09,080
Speaker 9: Christians that are persecuted in North Korea And I didn't

1714
01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:12,719
Speaker 9: see any tweaked from Trump about going into North Korea

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01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:14,320
Speaker 9: to protect Christians.

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Speaker 1: Twelve after Top Family, just checking in, I guess is

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Speaker 1: Professor aman new and Pyment teachers a contracst the college

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01:40:21,080 --> 01:40:24,639
Speaker 1: out in Northern California Professor M. Pym So this message

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01:40:24,840 --> 01:40:30,320
Speaker 1: were threatening to invade Nigeria. Is this for domestic folks

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01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:33,920
Speaker 1: that the Christian Nationalists who follow part of the MAGA

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01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:36,599
Speaker 1: group or is it really something that do you think

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01:40:36,720 --> 01:40:38,719
Speaker 1: is really concerned about what's going on in Nigeria.

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01:40:39,960 --> 01:40:44,960
Speaker 9: I think it's part of the the MAGA group. And

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01:40:45,160 --> 01:40:48,680
Speaker 9: some of the politicians who he said he wants to

1725
01:40:48,920 --> 01:40:54,479
Speaker 9: he wants them, uh, he wants them Ricky to he

1726
01:40:54,600 --> 01:40:59,639
Speaker 9: wants imaged Tom Cole and Raley Moore to go into

1727
01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:03,960
Speaker 9: go in and investigate what's happening and report back to

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01:41:04,120 --> 01:41:07,720
Speaker 9: him and the and that the United States Court, to

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01:41:07,760 --> 01:41:11,559
Speaker 9: Trump cannot stand by such atrocities that are happening in Nigeria.

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01:41:12,120 --> 01:41:16,400
Speaker 9: So he's called on out particular politicians on the Appropriations

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01:41:16,439 --> 01:41:19,960
Speaker 9: Committee to look into this and to report back immediately.

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01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:22,760
Speaker 9: And people who are not looking at the background and

1733
01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:25,960
Speaker 9: the numbers, and what does Human Rights Watch has to say,

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01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:30,400
Speaker 9: what does Amnesty International have to say? And they clearly

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01:41:30,640 --> 01:41:33,960
Speaker 9: indicated and the Nigerian government is not hiding the fact

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01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:37,200
Speaker 9: that there's instability, but they also point out that there

1737
01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:41,240
Speaker 9: is more if you look at it from country to country,

1738
01:41:41,280 --> 01:41:44,679
Speaker 9: that there's more deaths and killings in the United States

1739
01:41:44,760 --> 01:41:48,680
Speaker 9: than there is in Nigeria. And they know that that

1740
01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:51,800
Speaker 9: instability is not really what they want in Nigeria. As

1741
01:41:51,880 --> 01:41:54,360
Speaker 9: matter of fact, the Nigerian government they say, hey, welcome

1742
01:41:54,920 --> 01:41:58,799
Speaker 9: to support of the Trump administration to assist, but assist

1743
01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:04,280
Speaker 9: only but to respect the Nigerian independence and their sovereignty.

1744
01:42:04,680 --> 01:42:09,280
Speaker 9: But there's no specific targeting of Christians that has increased

1745
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:13,760
Speaker 9: in any manner whatsoever. So it's important to really take

1746
01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:16,200
Speaker 9: a look at this. But you know, you know something,

1747
01:42:17,080 --> 01:42:17,519
Speaker 9: hopefully we.

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01:42:17,560 --> 01:42:20,599
Speaker 1: Need lose a Professor on Pim. Sounds like a line

1749
01:42:20,680 --> 01:42:24,759
Speaker 1: dropped there. Interesting conversation, family about what's going on in Nigeria.

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01:42:24,840 --> 01:42:26,479
Speaker 1: Those are you on the late train? Donald Trump is

1751
01:42:26,560 --> 01:42:28,720
Speaker 1: threatened to send troops in Niger's because he says the

1752
01:42:28,840 --> 01:42:33,479
Speaker 1: Christians are being slaughtered. But that might be the case,

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01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:36,360
Speaker 1: and Donald Trump's got says he's going to send given

1754
01:42:36,439 --> 01:42:40,040
Speaker 1: the Nigerian's government a chance to rectify that, or is

1755
01:42:40,080 --> 01:42:42,479
Speaker 1: he's going to send him troops? What are your thoughts, family,

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Speaker 1: eight hundred and four or five zero seventy eight to

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Speaker 1: seventy six. Let's take the break and see if we're

1758
01:42:46,800 --> 01:42:49,280
Speaker 1: gonna get back with Professor Meynu on Pim, because we

1759
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:51,080
Speaker 1: also want to talk about the Sadan. What's going on

1760
01:42:51,160 --> 01:42:53,280
Speaker 1: in the Saddan. There's a lot of people asking folks,

1761
01:42:53,320 --> 01:42:55,160
Speaker 1: what's going on in Sadan, and we have to keep it.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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01:42:55,560 --> 01:42:59,080
Speaker 1: It says it's genocide being taking place in the Saddam.

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01:42:59,120 --> 01:43:00,720
Speaker 1: We want to find out what that's all about. So

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01:43:00,760 --> 01:43:02,920
Speaker 1: if you got a question about the sit down of Nigeria,

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01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:04,600
Speaker 1: reach out to us at eight hundred and four or

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01:43:04,640 --> 01:43:07,760
Speaker 1: five zero seventy eight seventy six. All right, it's back,

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Speaker 1: all right, professor Champion. I'll let you finish your thought.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 9: Another thing to point out, and this is important, is

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01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:20,840
Speaker 9: that that back in September, just two months ago, Trump

1773
01:43:21,240 --> 01:43:23,800
Speaker 9: changed the name, even though this has to be done

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01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:27,760
Speaker 9: officially by an Act of Congress, but he changed the

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01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:31,000
Speaker 9: name from the Department of Defense back to the Department

1776
01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:33,800
Speaker 9: of War. It had always been called the Department of

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01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:37,479
Speaker 9: War since the government was founded and the first president

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01:43:37,600 --> 01:43:40,759
Speaker 9: was George Washington. I mean Washington was a president because

1779
01:43:41,320 --> 01:43:43,960
Speaker 9: he was a great general in the army against the British.

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01:43:44,040 --> 01:43:48,599
Speaker 9: So it had always been the Department of War back

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01:43:48,680 --> 01:43:52,720
Speaker 9: in the late seventeen hundreds. But after World War Two

1782
01:43:53,439 --> 01:43:55,760
Speaker 9: they changed it from the Department of War to the

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01:43:55,840 --> 01:44:01,519
Speaker 9: Department of Defense to change the perception humps. Now he's

1784
01:44:01,600 --> 01:44:04,320
Speaker 9: calling it the Department of War and there's a Secretary

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01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:08,680
Speaker 9: of War and so he seems to be working in

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01:44:08,800 --> 01:44:12,560
Speaker 9: that area to to instigate war even though he criticized

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01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:15,800
Speaker 9: the previous government for being warmongers, and they are, but

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01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:18,599
Speaker 9: so is he as well. So we should really look

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01:44:18,640 --> 01:44:22,080
Speaker 9: at this. He wants to have guns a blazing in

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Speaker 9: Nigeria and there's so what would be the part I

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01:44:25,360 --> 01:44:28,439
Speaker 9: noticed he didn't say that about any other country, uh

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01:44:28,680 --> 01:44:32,479
Speaker 9: in the region, So we should really be concerned about

1793
01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:36,920
Speaker 9: that because there's something afoot and for the media to

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01:44:37,320 --> 01:44:40,479
Speaker 9: just run with this then that that Nigeria is now

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01:44:40,600 --> 01:44:45,880
Speaker 9: a country of particular concerns. So what resources are they're

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01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:50,040
Speaker 9: looking to extract from the most populous country in all

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Speaker 9: of Africa, which is Nigeria.

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Speaker 1: So we step aside for a couple of minutes, and

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned what can they extract from Nigeria?

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01:44:57,880 --> 01:45:02,000
Speaker 1: Same things in Venezuela oil seventeen alfter the top that,

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01:45:02,000 --> 01:45:04,120
Speaker 1: as I mentioned, I guess if Professor Manu and pen

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01:45:04,200 --> 01:45:06,240
Speaker 1: you want to join our discussion, just reach out to

1803
01:45:06,320 --> 01:45:08,720
Speaker 1: us at eight hundred four or five zero, seventy eight,

1804
01:45:09,040 --> 01:45:12,040
Speaker 1: seventy six lar ticket phone calls. Next and Grand Rising

1805
01:45:12,120 --> 01:45:14,800
Speaker 1: Family Facts are starting a week with US twenty one

1806
01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:17,160
Speaker 1: minutes after the top there, I guess there's a professor

1807
01:45:17,240 --> 01:45:19,400
Speaker 1: Manhu and Pin from Contra Acrost, the college out in

1808
01:45:19,479 --> 01:45:21,800
Speaker 1: northern California. We're going to talk about the Sadan, but

1809
01:45:21,880 --> 01:45:24,880
Speaker 1: right now we're also talking about Nigeria, mostly many. If

1810
01:45:24,920 --> 01:45:26,560
Speaker 1: you may not know that Donald Trump is threatening to

1811
01:45:26,560 --> 01:45:30,280
Speaker 1: the same troops into Nigeria, the claiming that Christians are

1812
01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:34,400
Speaker 1: being slaughtered in Nigeria, and somebody tweeted it says, wonder

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01:45:34,400 --> 01:45:36,920
Speaker 1: if Trump knows that they're probably not white Christians. If

1814
01:45:36,960 --> 01:45:39,759
Speaker 1: anything attack on the Christians, they're probably black Christians. But anyway,

1815
01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:42,719
Speaker 1: that's besides the point. But they are being he's threatening

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01:45:42,760 --> 01:45:44,960
Speaker 1: to go in there and stay that often. The question

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01:45:45,080 --> 01:45:48,120
Speaker 1: before we left for Professor Mpen was that move done

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01:45:48,200 --> 01:45:51,840
Speaker 1: for the Christian base, part of his evangelical base here

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01:45:51,960 --> 01:45:55,080
Speaker 1: Stateside or was he really something that he's concerned about

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01:45:55,160 --> 01:45:56,919
Speaker 1: Christians all in Nigeria.

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01:46:01,960 --> 01:46:07,160
Speaker 9: Yes, the issue is pretty clear that this newfound concern

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01:46:07,360 --> 01:46:10,120
Speaker 9: is not born out of concern for the people of

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01:46:10,240 --> 01:46:15,800
Speaker 9: Nigeria at all. So there's stuffing foot that now his

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01:46:15,960 --> 01:46:22,799
Speaker 9: administration is targeting the country of Nigeria, and the Nigeria

1825
01:46:22,880 --> 01:46:27,000
Speaker 9: is really open to any assistance that respects its sovereignty

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01:46:27,240 --> 01:46:32,000
Speaker 9: and its borders. And so they've always had that position

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01:46:32,160 --> 01:46:34,879
Speaker 9: because these extremists are in the northeast of the country,

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01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:38,479
Speaker 9: have been active now for more than a decade and

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01:46:38,640 --> 01:46:44,120
Speaker 9: effective in causing chaos. But there's nothing particularly that has

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01:46:44,240 --> 01:46:47,519
Speaker 9: happened that would warrant this kind of response. As a

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01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:50,640
Speaker 9: matter of fact, Bocal km Haram, I mean, they're just

1832
01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:53,680
Speaker 9: as focused on the Shiite Muslims and to take them

1833
01:46:53,800 --> 01:46:56,439
Speaker 9: down as any Christians. So all of the people in

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01:46:56,560 --> 01:47:00,720
Speaker 9: Nigeria are concerned and our targets of both Kurama and

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01:47:00,840 --> 01:47:05,320
Speaker 9: they've never had any particular focus just on Christians as

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01:47:05,360 --> 01:47:08,720
Speaker 9: a matter of fact, they're more their whole movement is

1837
01:47:08,800 --> 01:47:13,360
Speaker 9: to condemn westernization in Western education. This is their main target,

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01:47:13,760 --> 01:47:15,479
Speaker 9: you know. But they are extremely It's one of the

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01:47:15,560 --> 01:47:18,680
Speaker 9: things that I've known or learned just spending time on

1840
01:47:18,800 --> 01:47:22,439
Speaker 9: the continent is that many of these Jihattists, these are

1841
01:47:22,479 --> 01:47:24,800
Speaker 9: not just mad men, but a lot of these these

1842
01:47:24,840 --> 01:47:28,960
Speaker 9: folks are ignorant. I mean, really they don't read. They'll

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01:47:29,040 --> 01:47:33,160
Speaker 9: listen to the Quran, they'll hear about the you know,

1844
01:47:33,280 --> 01:47:36,240
Speaker 9: the Qur'an, but they don't read. They're not really informed people.

1845
01:47:36,320 --> 01:47:39,920
Speaker 9: They're just mad men that go after any kind of

1846
01:47:39,960 --> 01:47:43,160
Speaker 9: command that there may be. So certainly that is part

1847
01:47:43,200 --> 01:47:48,320
Speaker 9: of the problem. But the Magabase under Trump, clearly they

1848
01:47:48,400 --> 01:47:51,960
Speaker 9: have some kind of selective agenda because there's there's different

1849
01:47:52,080 --> 01:47:56,439
Speaker 9: countries where there is conflict with Christians and Muslims. I

1850
01:47:56,560 --> 01:48:02,200
Speaker 9: was just in Ethiopia this summer. There's problems between Christians

1851
01:48:02,240 --> 01:48:05,160
Speaker 9: and Muslims there, as there has been for quite some time,

1852
01:48:05,680 --> 01:48:09,080
Speaker 9: and there's other countries. So, but they're targeting the country

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01:48:09,120 --> 01:48:12,280
Speaker 9: in Nigeria. People should know that this is just some

1854
01:48:12,479 --> 01:48:15,160
Speaker 9: mad man who's at the Department who what he's calling

1855
01:48:15,200 --> 01:48:18,400
Speaker 9: the Department of War that can just flex his muscles.

1856
01:48:18,479 --> 01:48:20,200
Speaker 9: But at seventy nine years old, I would like to

1857
01:48:20,280 --> 01:48:22,800
Speaker 9: see him go out and duke it out on the

1858
01:48:22,840 --> 01:48:25,479
Speaker 9: battlefield and see how well he would do. But the

1859
01:48:25,640 --> 01:48:29,960
Speaker 9: problem also is extended because you have uninformed people like

1860
01:48:30,080 --> 01:48:40,080
Speaker 9: nicking but Nicki from Minaj who also who sent out

1861
01:48:40,120 --> 01:48:44,439
Speaker 9: a tweet on x saying that she has a deep

1862
01:48:44,520 --> 01:48:49,240
Speaker 9: sense of gratitude when she learned about the Madman's his

1863
01:48:49,560 --> 01:48:53,160
Speaker 9: posts and that the thought we live in a country

1864
01:48:53,200 --> 01:48:59,559
Speaker 9: that freely worships God and she's completely uninformed, this silly entertainer.

1865
01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:05,000
Speaker 9: So this is certainly Widen Trump's call to look at

1866
01:49:05,720 --> 01:49:09,000
Speaker 9: the country of Nigeria and to go in with guns

1867
01:49:09,160 --> 01:49:12,200
Speaker 9: blazing if he gets back in a report that he

1868
01:49:12,400 --> 01:49:16,280
Speaker 9: thinks justifies the US going in. So we should be

1869
01:49:16,400 --> 01:49:19,360
Speaker 9: concerned about that. But this is US imperialism that has

1870
01:49:19,880 --> 01:49:23,719
Speaker 9: been operative at a very high level since the eighteen nineties.

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01:49:24,120 --> 01:49:27,280
Speaker 9: So this is really nothing new. And if there's any

1872
01:49:27,360 --> 01:49:31,720
Speaker 9: real concern, then we should be supporting any countries that

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01:49:31,800 --> 01:49:35,439
Speaker 9: are looking to rid any extremists, whether it's in Nigeria

1874
01:49:35,640 --> 01:49:37,240
Speaker 9: or here in America for that matter.

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01:49:38,400 --> 01:49:40,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right there twenty five Off the top of that,

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01:49:40,560 --> 01:49:42,479
Speaker 1: it's just a Kashiva is joined now. She usually lives

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01:49:42,520 --> 01:49:45,320
Speaker 1: in Silver Spring, Maryland, just near by house studios. Here,

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01:49:46,200 --> 01:49:49,840
Speaker 1: Sister Kashiba grand Rising, Happy Black Solidarity Day. You're only

1879
01:49:49,920 --> 01:49:53,160
Speaker 1: professor mpm oh she's gone. I can see her name

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01:49:53,240 --> 01:49:55,599
Speaker 1: on the screen eight hundred and four or five zero

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01:49:55,760 --> 01:49:57,720
Speaker 1: seventy eight seventy six. If you wanted to get in

1882
01:49:57,840 --> 01:50:01,479
Speaker 1: this conversation with Professor Mpinn Professor and PM, let's talk

1883
01:50:01,479 --> 01:50:03,680
Speaker 1: about the Sudan. What's going on in Sudan? Is it

1884
01:50:04,200 --> 01:50:06,080
Speaker 1: likewise what's going on in Nigeria.

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01:50:07,400 --> 01:50:10,760
Speaker 9: Well, you know, in Sudan it is the worst humanitarian

1886
01:50:10,840 --> 01:50:16,040
Speaker 9: crisis in the world. Back in December of twenty eighteen,

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01:50:16,240 --> 01:50:20,400
Speaker 9: the people rose up against Omar Bashir, the former dictator

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01:50:20,439 --> 01:50:24,040
Speaker 9: and president who was in office for thirty years. And

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01:50:24,840 --> 01:50:27,400
Speaker 9: it was a people's revolution. And I was actually there

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01:50:28,280 --> 01:50:33,360
Speaker 9: in December of eighteen and January of twenty nineteen in

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01:50:33,439 --> 01:50:35,840
Speaker 9: the middle of the people's revolution, and there were people

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01:50:35,880 --> 01:50:39,400
Speaker 9: from all stations in life that were rising up and

1893
01:50:40,200 --> 01:50:43,760
Speaker 9: to go after Bashir and to take him and his

1894
01:50:43,880 --> 01:50:47,000
Speaker 9: government down. I didn't think at the time being there

1895
01:50:47,240 --> 01:50:49,960
Speaker 9: that they were that organized enough to take down the

1896
01:50:50,040 --> 01:50:54,200
Speaker 9: thirty year dictator. But they were the people, not the military.

1897
01:50:54,240 --> 01:50:58,160
Speaker 9: But the people were very successful in April of twenty

1898
01:50:58,439 --> 01:51:01,879
Speaker 9: nineteen to overthrow the govern And this was a people's

1899
01:51:01,960 --> 01:51:05,519
Speaker 9: revolution from the grassroots. In fact, I even knew people

1900
01:51:05,600 --> 01:51:08,920
Speaker 9: because it was so widespread. It was not hard to

1901
01:51:09,000 --> 01:51:12,479
Speaker 9: know people in Khartoum, the capital city, who were part

1902
01:51:12,520 --> 01:51:16,640
Speaker 9: of their resistance to the old time dictator, and so

1903
01:51:16,760 --> 01:51:20,200
Speaker 9: when I left in twenty nineteen, I was very surprised

1904
01:51:20,240 --> 01:51:22,560
Speaker 9: to learn that they were successful by April of that

1905
01:51:22,680 --> 01:51:25,719
Speaker 9: same year. But this was supposed to be civilian rule.

1906
01:51:26,280 --> 01:51:31,000
Speaker 9: But then there was a transitional government that came into power,

1907
01:51:31,439 --> 01:51:34,479
Speaker 9: and the transitional government claimed that it was going to

1908
01:51:34,560 --> 01:51:38,040
Speaker 9: turn over power to the people in the process, but

1909
01:51:38,160 --> 01:51:43,080
Speaker 9: that never happened. The next thing we know, the transitional

1910
01:51:43,160 --> 01:51:47,360
Speaker 9: government leader was under house arrests and the military in

1911
01:51:47,439 --> 01:51:51,000
Speaker 9: twenty twenty one then took over and so that was

1912
01:51:51,080 --> 01:51:55,400
Speaker 9: a betrayal of the revolution in Soudan, and then by

1913
01:51:55,600 --> 01:51:59,599
Speaker 9: April fifteenth of twenty twenty three, a full out civil

1914
01:51:59,600 --> 01:52:04,320
Speaker 9: war b work out between the military and the Rapid

1915
01:52:04,439 --> 01:52:08,479
Speaker 9: Support Forces. The Rapid Support Forces were created by Bashir

1916
01:52:08,640 --> 01:52:11,759
Speaker 9: to help protect him. But these are not Rapid Support

1917
01:52:11,840 --> 01:52:17,160
Speaker 9: Forces or rs F, as people are always reporting on

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01:52:18,000 --> 01:52:24,600
Speaker 9: r SF. These are are are the mad men and

1919
01:52:24,760 --> 01:52:29,719
Speaker 9: genocidalists from the western part of Sudan, and the people

1920
01:52:30,080 --> 01:52:33,640
Speaker 9: in Sudan called them the Gingueat. They don't call them

1921
01:52:33,640 --> 01:52:37,680
Speaker 9: the rapid support forces. The Gingerweat is an Arabic term

1922
01:52:37,720 --> 01:52:42,960
Speaker 9: which means devils on horseback. Devils on horseback and these

1923
01:52:43,040 --> 01:52:48,400
Speaker 9: are killers. So they've been operating out of the eastern

1924
01:52:48,479 --> 01:52:51,920
Speaker 9: part of Chad on the border with Sudan to to

1925
01:52:52,400 --> 01:52:55,599
Speaker 9: launch attacks on the aft on the black African people

1926
01:52:55,800 --> 01:53:01,040
Speaker 9: in the western part of Sudan. But when they they

1927
01:53:01,560 --> 01:53:05,240
Speaker 9: went to war against the military and created this devastating

1928
01:53:05,320 --> 01:53:08,760
Speaker 9: civil war in April of twenty twenty three. Then now

1929
01:53:09,000 --> 01:53:13,840
Speaker 9: there's been millions of people displaced. And what they Ginguweat

1930
01:53:13,880 --> 01:53:17,040
Speaker 9: are attempting to do, and they consider themselves to be Arabs.

1931
01:53:17,439 --> 01:53:24,160
Speaker 9: These are Islamists. They promote Islam, they want jihad, they

1932
01:53:24,240 --> 01:53:28,400
Speaker 9: want Sharia or the imposition of strict Islamic law according

1933
01:53:28,439 --> 01:53:33,840
Speaker 9: to their interpretation and the Ginguweek they actually have as

1934
01:53:33,920 --> 01:53:39,280
Speaker 9: a stated goal in Sudan to kill off the black Africans,

1935
01:53:39,320 --> 01:53:45,519
Speaker 9: who they call Zurga in Arabic, it means blue. They're

1936
01:53:45,560 --> 01:53:50,439
Speaker 9: referring to the super black skinned Africans. So Zerga is

1937
01:53:50,640 --> 01:53:55,800
Speaker 9: like the just like calling somebody a dirty and then

1938
01:53:55,880 --> 01:53:59,920
Speaker 9: the inward. This is how they see them. So they

1939
01:54:00,200 --> 01:54:05,559
Speaker 9: the Gingerwheats, they consider themselves to be Arab, to be Arab. Now,

1940
01:54:05,600 --> 01:54:10,439
Speaker 9: if you look at some of them Musa bellaw uh uh.

1941
01:54:12,479 --> 01:54:16,800
Speaker 9: If you look at people like Musa allow, Yes, he

1942
01:54:16,920 --> 01:54:21,519
Speaker 9: looks just like you know, a light skinned Arab person.

1943
01:54:21,680 --> 01:54:24,560
Speaker 9: But then you have people among the Gingerweat.

1944
01:54:25,120 --> 01:54:26,320
Speaker 5: These are I mean in.

1945
01:54:26,439 --> 01:54:30,200
Speaker 9: Every physical aspect, these are Africoid people, but they identify

1946
01:54:30,479 --> 01:54:34,160
Speaker 9: as being Arab. Some are mixed, some are very light

1947
01:54:34,280 --> 01:54:37,400
Speaker 9: skinned Arabs, but they all consider themselves to be Arab,

1948
01:54:37,880 --> 01:54:43,280
Speaker 9: no matter how black and their skin color, no matter

1949
01:54:43,400 --> 01:54:47,480
Speaker 9: how they look as people with an African or black

1950
01:54:47,560 --> 01:54:52,800
Speaker 9: African physical appearance or their pheno type is Africoid, it

1951
01:54:52,840 --> 01:54:57,400
Speaker 9: doesn't matter. They identify as Gingerwee. And they have a

1952
01:54:57,480 --> 01:55:00,520
Speaker 9: lot of young, ignorant and very ignorant. They don't don't read.

1953
01:55:01,040 --> 01:55:03,800
Speaker 9: Their whole goal is to literally, as they stay, to

1954
01:55:03,920 --> 01:55:08,080
Speaker 9: wipe out and kill kill off the Zurga. And so

1955
01:55:08,360 --> 01:55:12,120
Speaker 9: these groups in the western part of Sudan are attacking

1956
01:55:12,240 --> 01:55:17,280
Speaker 9: the mass elite and other indigenous Black Africans to kill

1957
01:55:17,360 --> 01:55:20,560
Speaker 9: them off and take their land and then claim that

1958
01:55:20,760 --> 01:55:25,760
Speaker 9: they were the original inhabitants. So these are our ignorant

1959
01:55:26,200 --> 01:55:29,720
Speaker 9: folks that had had no land because the Arabs are

1960
01:55:30,160 --> 01:55:36,360
Speaker 9: people who are the nomadic in origin. So their whole

1961
01:55:36,400 --> 01:55:40,440
Speaker 9: goal is to literally kill off all the males and

1962
01:55:40,640 --> 01:55:44,080
Speaker 9: then to kill some women, but also rape a number

1963
01:55:44,120 --> 01:55:47,000
Speaker 9: of them so that the next generation, that the next

1964
01:55:47,040 --> 01:55:52,800
Speaker 9: generation are also the Gingerweat. And this is their stated goal.

1965
01:55:52,920 --> 01:55:54,600
Speaker 9: This is what they do. This is why there's no

1966
01:55:54,760 --> 01:55:58,160
Speaker 9: problem for the gingerwek to kill off as many people

1967
01:55:58,280 --> 01:56:02,120
Speaker 9: in a village that they can can that they can,

1968
01:56:02,280 --> 01:56:04,800
Speaker 9: because that's what their goal is. But they've gone in

1969
01:56:05,360 --> 01:56:09,640
Speaker 9: and just mastercre people in villages, in homes and hospitals.

1970
01:56:10,040 --> 01:56:12,560
Speaker 9: So and this is happening in the western part of

1971
01:56:12,640 --> 01:56:17,400
Speaker 9: the country. But the Gingerweak are killers. And when they

1972
01:56:17,480 --> 01:56:21,320
Speaker 9: get caught, when they're in Khartoon, the capital city, more

1973
01:56:21,600 --> 01:56:23,840
Speaker 9: in the central part of the country, the people don't

1974
01:56:23,880 --> 01:56:27,879
Speaker 9: even ask questions about the Gingerweat and hold them as prisoners.

1975
01:56:27,960 --> 01:56:32,080
Speaker 9: They killed them. They killed them, and you look at

1976
01:56:32,080 --> 01:56:33,960
Speaker 9: a lot of them. You can see a lot of

1977
01:56:34,080 --> 01:56:37,920
Speaker 9: video footage. A lot of them are very young. They

1978
01:56:38,000 --> 01:56:40,879
Speaker 9: look just as African as anybody else. But they're ignorant

1979
01:56:41,080 --> 01:56:44,720
Speaker 9: and they do not read They're very ignorant. They don't

1980
01:56:44,760 --> 01:56:47,640
Speaker 9: read Arabic or any they don't read the Koran. They're

1981
01:56:47,680 --> 01:56:50,680
Speaker 9: just told they So these people are given the smallest

1982
01:56:50,720 --> 01:56:54,960
Speaker 9: amount of money as mercenaries to go fight and many

1983
01:56:55,000 --> 01:56:57,240
Speaker 9: of them die and lose their life, but this is

1984
01:56:57,320 --> 01:57:00,839
Speaker 9: in the interests of taking land and from the Africans.

1985
01:57:00,880 --> 01:57:04,480
Speaker 9: As a matter of fact, this is a bigger issue

1986
01:57:04,520 --> 01:57:07,920
Speaker 9: even before the war, because there are people that identify

1987
01:57:08,360 --> 01:57:12,280
Speaker 9: as Arab that have lied and try to rewrite the

1988
01:57:12,520 --> 01:57:15,080
Speaker 9: history of the region and say that they were the

1989
01:57:15,200 --> 01:57:18,600
Speaker 9: original landowners and that the Nubians are the ones who

1990
01:57:18,640 --> 01:57:22,880
Speaker 9: are modern, who came late and who are on their land.

1991
01:57:23,160 --> 01:57:28,000
Speaker 9: So they actually are trying to rewrite the history of

1992
01:57:28,040 --> 01:57:30,280
Speaker 9: the region. So when we look at the great Nubian

1993
01:57:30,400 --> 01:57:34,160
Speaker 9: culture of ancient and modern times, these people say, no,

1994
01:57:34,320 --> 01:57:37,640
Speaker 9: that's not reality at all, and that we are the

1995
01:57:37,800 --> 01:57:40,920
Speaker 9: landowners and they are trying to take the land by

1996
01:57:41,200 --> 01:57:45,000
Speaker 9: killing off people in that I have more than one

1997
01:57:45,120 --> 01:57:48,440
Speaker 9: hundred and twenty people in my adopted family in Sudan

1998
01:57:48,560 --> 01:57:52,840
Speaker 9: who have been displaced. They're in Egypt, they're in Saudi

1999
01:57:52,880 --> 01:57:57,680
Speaker 9: Arabian now, they're in the UAE, they're in Germany, They're

2000
01:57:57,720 --> 01:58:00,400
Speaker 9: in different places because of the millions of people that

2001
01:58:00,520 --> 01:58:04,360
Speaker 9: have been displaced, and then so many other thousands that

2002
01:58:04,440 --> 01:58:08,120
Speaker 9: have been killed by the Gingerwee. They're so ignorant, they

2003
01:58:08,200 --> 01:58:11,400
Speaker 9: have no link to the distant past in Sudan. As

2004
01:58:11,440 --> 01:58:13,840
Speaker 9: a matter of fact, these are the people who are

2005
01:58:14,960 --> 01:58:20,840
Speaker 9: directly and deliberately destroying the ancient Cushite artifacts and ancient

2006
01:58:20,880 --> 01:58:25,600
Speaker 9: Nubian artifacts. They've ransacked the National Museum in Khartom, so

2007
01:58:25,760 --> 01:58:27,960
Speaker 9: we don't know what the extent of the damage is.

2008
01:58:28,040 --> 01:58:30,440
Speaker 9: You can see damage to the building and there's some

2009
01:58:30,600 --> 01:58:34,160
Speaker 9: videos here and there about what they've done inside. So

2010
01:58:34,240 --> 01:58:39,680
Speaker 9: when they were accused of destroying so called mummies, destroying

2011
01:58:39,720 --> 01:58:42,320
Speaker 9: African ancestors, they claim, oh no, it wasn't us, and

2012
01:58:42,360 --> 01:58:45,720
Speaker 9: they showed some short video that didn't show one thing

2013
01:58:45,960 --> 01:58:48,200
Speaker 9: or another to try to claim to know, we didn't

2014
01:58:48,240 --> 01:58:55,680
Speaker 9: destroy or damage any actual people who are in the

2015
01:58:55,840 --> 01:58:59,960
Speaker 9: museum as ancestors who have been mummified. But these people

2016
01:59:00,120 --> 01:59:03,040
Speaker 9: are very ignorant. They don't really relate to the distant past,

2017
01:59:03,320 --> 01:59:06,000
Speaker 9: but they do shoot off the rhetoric that they are

2018
01:59:07,240 --> 01:59:11,240
Speaker 9: somehow indigenous when they're not. Who's supporting the Gingerweek? The

2019
01:59:11,440 --> 01:59:15,040
Speaker 9: United Arab Emirates. Why are they supporting the Ginger Weeek

2020
01:59:15,080 --> 01:59:19,040
Speaker 9: with weapons with secret shipments being sent in these these

2021
01:59:19,120 --> 01:59:22,040
Speaker 9: shipments that are being flown in, these are not for

2022
01:59:23,200 --> 01:59:27,280
Speaker 9: the refugees. This is not for people who need medical supplies.

2023
01:59:27,320 --> 01:59:31,680
Speaker 9: These are weapons being shipped in. Why because the United

2024
01:59:31,760 --> 01:59:38,160
Speaker 9: Arab Emirates, the UAE, they are extracting oil and gold,

2025
01:59:39,160 --> 01:59:42,280
Speaker 9: so that that's so that's the trade off. We want

2026
01:59:42,360 --> 01:59:46,080
Speaker 9: your resources. The Russians were part of this, extracting gold,

2027
01:59:46,480 --> 01:59:50,600
Speaker 9: the UAE extracting gold, extracting oil in areas that the

2028
01:59:50,720 --> 01:59:54,919
Speaker 9: gingerweak control. So why is it the worst humanitarian crisis?

2029
01:59:55,080 --> 01:59:58,640
Speaker 9: Because it's not just taking the land. It is to

2030
01:59:58,880 --> 02:00:01,200
Speaker 9: wipe out all all of the people in the area

2031
02:00:01,320 --> 02:00:04,960
Speaker 9: and replace them with a new genetic stock. This is

2032
02:00:05,080 --> 02:00:08,360
Speaker 9: not secret. They state this goal and this is why

2033
02:00:08,400 --> 02:00:11,640
Speaker 9: the people call the call them Gingerwee. And they are

2034
02:00:11,720 --> 02:00:15,120
Speaker 9: truly devils on horseback, and they're not the rapid.

2035
02:00:14,880 --> 02:00:15,520
Speaker 6: Support for us.

2036
02:00:15,560 --> 02:00:18,080
Speaker 9: And by the way, the people don't really support the

2037
02:00:18,120 --> 02:00:21,080
Speaker 9: suiting these military. They don't support either group, but they

2038
02:00:21,200 --> 02:00:24,480
Speaker 9: hate they literally hate the Gingerwee. Now they want the

2039
02:00:24,560 --> 02:00:30,080
Speaker 9: military to defeat the Ginguwee. But as I mentioned earlier,

2040
02:00:30,080 --> 02:00:35,760
Speaker 9: the military took over the People's revolution in twenty nineteen.

2041
02:00:35,840 --> 02:00:39,200
Speaker 9: That culminated in the twenty eighteen with Sorry twenty nineteen

2042
02:00:39,240 --> 02:00:41,200
Speaker 9: with the overthrow of the government. So that's what we're

2043
02:00:41,240 --> 02:00:43,440
Speaker 9: dealing with today, is to take it in the land

2044
02:00:43,480 --> 02:00:45,960
Speaker 9: and kill it the people and to try to genetically

2045
02:00:46,080 --> 02:00:51,360
Speaker 9: replace the people that they derogatorily called the Zerga who

2046
02:00:51,440 --> 02:00:52,840
Speaker 9: are nothing with black Africans.

2047
02:00:53,800 --> 02:00:55,320
Speaker 1: Hold that thought right there. We got to step aside

2048
02:00:55,320 --> 02:00:56,600
Speaker 1: a fee and so we come back. It's just the

2049
02:00:56,680 --> 02:00:59,520
Speaker 1: Kashiba's backs and asked a question for you, but explain,

2050
02:00:59,680 --> 02:01:02,560
Speaker 1: is it Arabs against Africans? Because that's what I'm trying

2051
02:01:02,600 --> 02:01:05,240
Speaker 1: to figure out, cipher what's going on with these different groups.

2052
02:01:05,240 --> 02:01:07,240
Speaker 1: I'll let you explain that when we get back. Family,

2053
02:01:07,320 --> 02:01:10,280
Speaker 1: you two can join our conversation with Professor may new Mpin.

2054
02:01:10,560 --> 02:01:12,480
Speaker 1: Reach out to us at eight hundred four or five

2055
02:01:12,600 --> 02:01:15,640
Speaker 1: zero seventy eight seventy sixty. We'll taket phone calls next

2056
02:01:16,080 --> 02:01:18,920
Speaker 1: and Grand Rising family, thanks us starting your week with us.

2057
02:01:19,000 --> 02:01:20,760
Speaker 1: Eighteen minutes away from the top of the hot with

2058
02:01:20,840 --> 02:01:23,200
Speaker 1: our guest, the Professing May new Mpin. As I mentioned,

2059
02:01:23,240 --> 02:01:26,400
Speaker 1: he teaches a contracrost the college in Northern California. Discussion

2060
02:01:26,400 --> 02:01:28,160
Speaker 1: what's going on in Nigeria and also what's going on

2061
02:01:28,280 --> 02:01:28,839
Speaker 1: in the Sedan.

2062
02:01:29,160 --> 02:01:29,800
Speaker 4: What are your thoughts?

2063
02:01:29,800 --> 02:01:31,360
Speaker 1: You can hit us up at eight hundred four or

2064
02:01:31,400 --> 02:01:34,360
Speaker 1: five zero seventy eight seventy six before we go back

2065
02:01:34,360 --> 02:01:36,320
Speaker 1: to Professor m. Pima, and'll just remind you. Coming up

2066
02:01:36,400 --> 02:01:39,200
Speaker 1: later this week you hear from chemautologist Tony Browner, also

2067
02:01:39,320 --> 02:01:42,280
Speaker 1: holistic healer Queen A. Foog is going to be with us,

2068
02:01:42,320 --> 02:01:44,440
Speaker 1: and also civil Rights act Recht doctor Paul Smith, he

2069
02:01:44,520 --> 02:01:48,880
Speaker 1: Maunch along with Andy Young and Martin Luther King as well.

2070
02:01:48,880 --> 02:01:50,560
Speaker 1: So he's going to give us his thoughts about what's

2071
02:01:50,600 --> 02:01:54,120
Speaker 1: going on this election week. Anyway, family, keep a note

2072
02:01:54,160 --> 02:01:56,520
Speaker 1: of that and keep your radar tuned to ten ten

2073
02:01:56,720 --> 02:01:58,880
Speaker 1: WLB if you are in Baltimore, if you're in the DMV.

2074
02:01:58,960 --> 02:02:02,320
Speaker 1: Though around fourteen fifty l Professor mp as I mentioned

2075
02:02:02,360 --> 02:02:05,560
Speaker 1: sister Kashiba had a questions. She's calling from Silver Springs.

2076
02:02:05,560 --> 02:02:09,160
Speaker 1: She's online two grant rising, Sister Kashiba, you only, Professor MPa.

2077
02:02:10,520 --> 02:02:15,760
Speaker 12: Thank you, Carl, excellent show as usual. There are a

2078
02:02:15,800 --> 02:02:17,760
Speaker 12: couple of points I want to mention here. I'm sorry

2079
02:02:18,240 --> 02:02:20,760
Speaker 12: my phone dropped, so I have to circle back a

2080
02:02:20,800 --> 02:02:27,919
Speaker 12: little bit. Regarding Nigeria. That president is a CIA asset.

2081
02:02:28,480 --> 02:02:32,440
Speaker 12: I want you, you and your audience to study his background.

2082
02:02:33,000 --> 02:02:35,440
Speaker 12: He has spent time in the US. Yes, he is

2083
02:02:35,520 --> 02:02:40,440
Speaker 12: a CIA asset. Now, the US wants to control Nigeria,

2084
02:02:41,520 --> 02:02:48,120
Speaker 12: especially since it borders on Oli, it borders on Burkina,

2085
02:02:48,200 --> 02:02:54,320
Speaker 12: Fosso and nazir H. Those are our revolutionary brothers who

2086
02:02:54,400 --> 02:02:59,600
Speaker 12: are trying to bring their country up. Now, it's the

2087
02:03:00,240 --> 02:03:04,200
Speaker 12: way if they if they can occupy the northern part

2088
02:03:04,280 --> 02:03:07,520
Speaker 12: of Nigeria, they can get right into the hill. So

2089
02:03:07,680 --> 02:03:11,040
Speaker 12: one has to be very careful. And thanks again man

2090
02:03:11,200 --> 02:03:14,880
Speaker 12: U and Pim for bringing this to light. All your

2091
02:03:15,000 --> 02:03:20,720
Speaker 12: information is so important because the US does not cover

2092
02:03:21,200 --> 02:03:26,480
Speaker 12: these points, especially the situation into Sudan. And I'm I'm

2093
02:03:26,720 --> 02:03:32,160
Speaker 12: so unhappy about our black commentators, those who have websites

2094
02:03:32,360 --> 02:03:36,680
Speaker 12: who hardly ever mentioned the Sudan. There's one person I

2095
02:03:36,760 --> 02:03:39,720
Speaker 12: want to mention who's I think secretly hiding here in

2096
02:03:39,800 --> 02:03:45,520
Speaker 12: the United States. His name is David Handilan. He's on

2097
02:03:45,800 --> 02:03:49,240
Speaker 12: Trio black dot com. He was on he was interviewed

2098
02:03:49,360 --> 02:03:53,600
Speaker 12: last week on Trio g R I L L B

2099
02:03:54,040 --> 02:04:00,600
Speaker 12: L A c K dot com. He's a Nigerian. He

2100
02:04:00,760 --> 02:04:06,120
Speaker 12: has a lot of information about the Nigerian country itself

2101
02:04:06,680 --> 02:04:12,800
Speaker 12: and certainly the presidency. But thank you so much for

2102
02:04:12,960 --> 02:04:18,520
Speaker 12: all the information that you're providing today. Nigeria, yes, is

2103
02:04:18,640 --> 02:04:25,680
Speaker 12: in the bullseye and that president is very suspicious. Thank

2104
02:04:25,760 --> 02:04:26,400
Speaker 12: you very much.

2105
02:04:27,840 --> 02:04:29,919
Speaker 4: All right, thank you, professor.

2106
02:04:32,440 --> 02:04:36,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, I appreciate the comments for sure. Yeah, we definitely

2107
02:04:36,880 --> 02:04:41,000
Speaker 9: have to look at it in the regions. And because

2108
02:04:41,080 --> 02:04:43,600
Speaker 9: the borders, as I'm permitting of the listeners know, the

2109
02:04:43,680 --> 02:04:46,120
Speaker 9: borders or modern borders that are being created at the

2110
02:04:46,160 --> 02:04:49,480
Speaker 9: Berlin Conference of eighteen eighty four eighteen eighty five, so

2111
02:04:49,640 --> 02:04:52,800
Speaker 9: that it's an artificial map of the African country in

2112
02:04:52,880 --> 02:04:57,600
Speaker 9: the African political states, and so one country is not

2113
02:04:57,760 --> 02:05:00,800
Speaker 9: outulated by it. Tough, we have to look at at

2114
02:05:01,200 --> 02:05:05,360
Speaker 9: not the borders in particular countries, but regions. This is

2115
02:05:05,440 --> 02:05:08,720
Speaker 9: what Soci's completely right about how the US would like

2116
02:05:08,800 --> 02:05:10,760
Speaker 9: to go after Betina far Soul, but it's not so

2117
02:05:11,000 --> 02:05:14,400
Speaker 9: easy to do that. So the destabilize the country is

2118
02:05:14,760 --> 02:05:18,520
Speaker 9: certainly a part of the agenda. In fact, and tifting

2119
02:05:18,640 --> 02:05:21,560
Speaker 9: to the eastern part of the country. Sudan is in

2120
02:05:21,680 --> 02:05:25,480
Speaker 9: the crisis, that is, that is in and it wouldn't

2121
02:05:25,520 --> 02:05:29,960
Speaker 9: be as easy for the Islamists to try to take

2122
02:05:30,040 --> 02:05:33,959
Speaker 9: over the land if it wasn't for them using Eastern

2123
02:05:34,440 --> 02:05:39,000
Speaker 9: Chad as a launching pad and also it's important to

2124
02:05:39,160 --> 02:05:44,200
Speaker 9: know that the newest country in the world is South Sudan,

2125
02:05:44,400 --> 02:05:47,120
Speaker 9: not Sudan, but South tou Dan. Through in twenty eleven,

2126
02:05:47,560 --> 02:05:51,360
Speaker 9: the South Sudanese voted for independence and they broke off

2127
02:05:51,400 --> 02:05:56,480
Speaker 9: from Sudan because Bashia wanted to impose Syria or Islamic law,

2128
02:05:57,000 --> 02:05:59,240
Speaker 9: and the African said, no, that's not going to happen

2129
02:05:59,440 --> 02:06:02,200
Speaker 9: at all. So I spend time on a lot of

2130
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Speaker 9: time in South Sudan and it's amazing to meet a

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Speaker 9: lot of the great people in the country. And the

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Speaker 9: large percentages of the folks are military or former military,

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Speaker 9: and so as a country, they have the great respect

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Speaker 9: for those that have fought for and maintain their independence.

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Speaker 9: This is important to know because again at the center of.

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Speaker 6: This you have.

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Speaker 9: Islamic chaos in the north. In fact, that people of Sudan,

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Speaker 9: who even the people that I trust and know very well,

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Speaker 9: they told me that not to go to South Sudan

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Speaker 9: because if I went to South Sutan, if I went

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Speaker 9: to the capital of Juba, that they would kill me.

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Speaker 9: They killed me for what what did I do? They

2143
02:06:44,760 --> 02:06:47,800
Speaker 9: don't like us, they will kill us. So that they

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Speaker 9: said that it's impossible for main new incomes to go

2145
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Speaker 9: to South Sudan or they will kill me. I said,

2146
02:06:53,640 --> 02:06:56,440
Speaker 9: this doesn't make sense whether they killed someone just visiting

2147
02:06:56,520 --> 02:06:58,760
Speaker 9: the country, but this is the kind of propaganda. And

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Speaker 9: by the way, the people in South so then they

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02:07:01,200 --> 02:07:05,280
Speaker 9: they practice traditional African culture and and and uh and

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02:07:05,600 --> 02:07:10,120
Speaker 9: and their religion is traditional. Many are Christians, but it's

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Speaker 9: not just Christians. For them is to maintain their independence.

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Speaker 9: This is why they support my the research so so

2153
02:07:18,080 --> 02:07:21,960
Speaker 9: much because they know that I'm independently researching about the

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02:07:22,600 --> 02:07:25,760
Speaker 9: ancient history of Kush and the modern groups that still

2155
02:07:26,040 --> 02:07:29,920
Speaker 9: practice the old cultural rituals from course and speak a

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02:07:30,000 --> 02:07:33,400
Speaker 9: Christritic language. So we do have to look at multiple

2157
02:07:33,440 --> 02:07:36,720
Speaker 9: countries in the same region to understand what the agenda

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02:07:36,960 --> 02:07:39,560
Speaker 9: is of the US and what the agenda is of

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02:07:39,720 --> 02:07:43,280
Speaker 9: some of the groups that have a a political agenda

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02:07:43,680 --> 02:07:47,240
Speaker 9: that may have some religious propagandam mixed in it. But

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Speaker 9: it's not just religion and it never will just be that,

2162
02:07:50,000 --> 02:07:53,760
Speaker 9: but it's economic. It's also political as well, So having

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Speaker 9: a regional view is very important and thrill bract for

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02:07:58,720 --> 02:08:01,520
Speaker 9: thorough Black brother out of the UK. I've been a

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Speaker 9: guest on this program. He focuses a lot on African

2166
02:08:05,640 --> 02:08:08,400
Speaker 9: civilizations as well, so people can look at his YouTube

2167
02:08:08,480 --> 02:08:11,200
Speaker 9: channel and see the work that he's doing. So I

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Speaker 9: have no doubt. I didn't see the interview that the

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02:08:13,640 --> 02:08:15,520
Speaker 9: sisters referring to, but I have no doubt that the

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Speaker 9: brother is with us for us, and so if he

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Speaker 9: has guests on, I'm sure he has vetted them to

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Speaker 9: make sure that he's providing the best information to the community.

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Speaker 1: All right, ten away from the top, and my question

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Speaker 1: is he just basically you go Are you still there?

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Speaker 12: I'm sorry, go ahead, yeah, could I just want to

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02:08:33,680 --> 02:08:38,400
Speaker 12: say one thing. The Arab and the Europeans have done

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Speaker 12: the most damage to the African continent and we need

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02:08:42,120 --> 02:08:44,800
Speaker 12: to be aware of that. Crying over all these Arabs

2179
02:08:45,320 --> 02:08:49,080
Speaker 12: and their problems is not what we should be doing.

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02:08:49,360 --> 02:08:54,920
Speaker 12: We need to be focusing on Africa, our motherland Palestine. Yes,

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Speaker 12: I'm sorry that things are happening over there, but the

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Speaker 12: Arab and the European have ought so much horror to

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Speaker 12: our motherland.

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Speaker 9: Thank you, all right, and that's the question.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned that. This is a question I

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02:09:08,960 --> 02:09:10,360
Speaker 1: was going to ask a professor on PIMP. Is it

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02:09:10,480 --> 02:09:13,640
Speaker 1: just basically Arabs versus Africans in that region and also

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Speaker 1: in northern Nigeria.

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Speaker 9: Okay, you know this is a great question. And when

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02:09:20,000 --> 02:09:23,000
Speaker 9: I first visited to Dan in two thousand and seven,

2191
02:09:23,800 --> 02:09:27,880
Speaker 9: I was there because I heard about the Marrowway Dam,

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02:09:28,320 --> 02:09:32,360
Speaker 9: this big damn project that was near completion, and I

2193
02:09:32,480 --> 02:09:35,000
Speaker 9: went in two thousand and seven so I can record

2194
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Speaker 9: and document what I could in the Marrolway damn area,

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02:09:38,680 --> 02:09:41,520
Speaker 9: this is in the northern part of Sudan near the

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Speaker 9: Fourth Cataract, because I understood it was one of the

2197
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Speaker 9: greatest archaeological regions in the world. And the dam actually

2198
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Speaker 9: displaced fifty to seventy thousand people and flooded and destroyed

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Speaker 9: twenty five hundred previously unknown ancient Kushite archaeological sites. And

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Speaker 9: so but when I when I first went, I had

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Speaker 9: been hearing about an Arab African conflict, and I was

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Speaker 9: puzzled because I spent a lot of time in the country,

2203
02:10:15,120 --> 02:10:18,560
Speaker 9: and I continued to go back with my colleague and

2204
02:10:18,920 --> 02:10:21,680
Speaker 9: his family's adopted me and I've adopted his family. But

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02:10:22,360 --> 02:10:24,960
Speaker 9: he kept talking about the Arabs, and as we traveled

2206
02:10:25,160 --> 02:10:28,440
Speaker 9: around to these various locations, I couldn't find the Arabs.

2207
02:10:28,480 --> 02:10:31,160
Speaker 9: I was looking for an Arab that looks like Omar Shariff,

2208
02:10:31,760 --> 02:10:36,280
Speaker 9: the famous actor, or Zahi ha was the Indiana Jones,

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Speaker 9: the type guy, you know, the light skinned Arab that

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Speaker 9: we see a lot of the listeners have gone to

2211
02:10:44,080 --> 02:10:46,240
Speaker 9: kim It. That's what I was looking for, and I

2212
02:10:46,280 --> 02:10:50,080
Speaker 9: didn't see him. So then I finally recognized that when

2213
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Speaker 9: my colleague and others were talking about Arab they didn't

2214
02:10:53,960 --> 02:10:58,200
Speaker 9: mean the physical appearance of Arabs. They meant and I

2215
02:10:58,320 --> 02:11:01,360
Speaker 9: finally figured this out. They meant Arab in the same

2216
02:11:01,480 --> 02:11:04,360
Speaker 9: way that many people in the culture community will say

2217
02:11:05,040 --> 02:11:08,600
Speaker 9: that somebody's a Negro. So when they say somebody is

2218
02:11:08,640 --> 02:11:12,040
Speaker 9: a Negro, they mean his mentality. They mean her mentality

2219
02:11:12,120 --> 02:11:15,000
Speaker 9: the way they think. They're not talking about their ethnicity,

2220
02:11:15,120 --> 02:11:18,320
Speaker 9: their race. They're talking about how they think and see things.

2221
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Speaker 9: So when people are saying Arab, this is what they mean.

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02:11:22,640 --> 02:11:25,840
Speaker 9: They mean that this person has a mentality of an Arab.

2223
02:11:25,880 --> 02:11:28,600
Speaker 9: And some of these people in Sudan, they will make

2224
02:11:28,720 --> 02:11:31,440
Speaker 9: up a fake background, a fake family history, of fake

2225
02:11:31,520 --> 02:11:35,000
Speaker 9: pedigree in order to get Brownie point that they are

2226
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Speaker 9: an Arab. Yes we know that you speak Arabic, Yes

2227
02:11:38,480 --> 02:11:41,320
Speaker 9: we know that you practice Islam, but you're a damn lie.

2228
02:11:41,640 --> 02:11:46,040
Speaker 9: You're a damn lie. Your family is not Arabic by bloodline,

2229
02:11:46,120 --> 02:11:49,320
Speaker 9: but it's not Arab by blood line. But some of

2230
02:11:49,400 --> 02:11:53,280
Speaker 9: them make this up, including Omar Bahshir, the former president

2231
02:11:53,360 --> 02:11:57,080
Speaker 9: and dictators. His mother is from Dongola. They're in Sudan,

2232
02:11:57,520 --> 02:12:02,000
Speaker 9: clearly black African, but he's claiming Arab descent for because

2233
02:12:02,040 --> 02:12:04,080
Speaker 9: the British set this up. The British are the ones

2234
02:12:04,120 --> 02:12:06,640
Speaker 9: when they colonized the area in Egypt and then they

2235
02:12:06,720 --> 02:12:11,120
Speaker 9: were looking to control Sudan. They made Cartoon the capital,

2236
02:12:11,280 --> 02:12:15,839
Speaker 9: and then they elevated anybody through governance and high status

2237
02:12:16,000 --> 02:12:19,760
Speaker 9: if they took on the Arab identity. Just like people

2238
02:12:19,840 --> 02:12:22,240
Speaker 9: here could relate to anybody that was light skin and

2239
02:12:22,280 --> 02:12:25,760
Speaker 9: white skin enough in this country that were passing so

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Speaker 9: that they could be a part of white society. Well

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Speaker 9: in Sudan, for someone to be of prominence, they thought

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02:12:32,680 --> 02:12:35,720
Speaker 9: that they had to identify as Arab. So that's what

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02:12:35,920 --> 02:12:38,920
Speaker 9: people typically mean. But then it wasn't until later I

2244
02:12:39,040 --> 02:12:43,160
Speaker 9: started to look more deeply into this Arab thing, and

2245
02:12:43,920 --> 02:12:47,440
Speaker 9: some like most of allow and others, these are Arab types,

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02:12:47,640 --> 02:12:52,000
Speaker 9: no question whatsoever. And what Bashir was doing was giving

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02:12:52,080 --> 02:12:57,280
Speaker 9: away land after displacing people because of dams and the

2248
02:12:57,400 --> 02:13:01,440
Speaker 9: war against them, and displacing people through replaced them literally

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02:13:02,120 --> 02:13:05,160
Speaker 9: with Arabs who had never been there before. They have

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Speaker 9: no lineage, no connection to the country, but then coming

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Speaker 9: in taking land so that they can become farmers and

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Speaker 9: then pretend like they had been the indigenous people all along.

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Speaker 9: This is why the most the Nubian brothers and sisters,

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02:13:20,640 --> 02:13:23,000
Speaker 9: they don't trust them. They know what's happening and they

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Speaker 9: know what's going on, and this is why they protected

2256
02:13:26,080 --> 02:13:30,120
Speaker 9: defend their history inheritance, not only against the likes of

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Speaker 9: Omar Baishir who would build dams, lying saying that this

2258
02:13:34,400 --> 02:13:37,040
Speaker 9: was to create hydro electricity to help the local people.

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Speaker 9: Not at all. The dams hydro electric dams like the

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Speaker 9: Merriway Dam and others, were to generate energy for the

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02:13:44,560 --> 02:13:48,920
Speaker 9: purpose of generating money to export the energy, because the

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02:13:49,000 --> 02:13:51,480
Speaker 9: local people were never part of of any of these

2263
02:13:51,560 --> 02:13:55,880
Speaker 9: projects in terms of conceiving them, agreeing to them, working

2264
02:13:56,000 --> 02:13:59,480
Speaker 9: on them, or even benefiting from them, for example the monaster.

2265
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Speaker 9: These are indigenous Africans there in Sudan. They were protesting

2266
02:14:06,160 --> 02:14:09,200
Speaker 9: because when the Merraway Dam displaced them, and I was

2267
02:14:09,240 --> 02:14:12,160
Speaker 9: among the monaster I know exactly what happened with them.

2268
02:14:12,240 --> 02:14:16,440
Speaker 9: But they were protesting because they never received any compensation,

2269
02:14:16,960 --> 02:14:22,560
Speaker 9: never received any money, no Suitingese pounds, nothing for being

2270
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Speaker 9: displaced from the land. So this was all a lie

2271
02:14:25,720 --> 02:14:29,360
Speaker 9: for Basher and its cronies to simply make money. And besides,

2272
02:14:29,800 --> 02:14:37,000
Speaker 9: the area is in a desert. You can create energy

2273
02:14:37,120 --> 02:14:41,280
Speaker 9: from solar or wind, turbine or what's even very common

2274
02:14:41,320 --> 02:14:44,640
Speaker 9: in the world of generating energy is micro hydro. How

2275
02:14:44,680 --> 02:14:47,919
Speaker 9: Come these methods of generating energy are not used because

2276
02:14:48,160 --> 02:14:52,240
Speaker 9: they're not as lucrative as the hydro electric dams. Regardless

2277
02:14:52,240 --> 02:14:55,120
Speaker 9: of hownting people are displaced. That was their method. So

2278
02:14:56,520 --> 02:15:00,680
Speaker 9: the Arab, the so called Arab people, should un they're

2279
02:15:00,760 --> 02:15:04,480
Speaker 9: not Arab, most of them, many of them, in fact,

2280
02:15:04,560 --> 02:15:07,280
Speaker 9: most of them are not most for sure. They're not

2281
02:15:07,640 --> 02:15:12,920
Speaker 9: Arab by phenotype or physical appearance. They're Arab by mentality.

2282
02:15:13,800 --> 02:15:20,000
Speaker 9: And this is why it's it's confused a lot of times. Yes,

2283
02:15:20,080 --> 02:15:22,600
Speaker 9: you do have now Arabs that have been brought in

2284
02:15:22,840 --> 02:15:26,280
Speaker 9: to steal the land, but this is not the largest

2285
02:15:26,400 --> 02:15:30,880
Speaker 9: number of them. These are black folks who are ignorant,

2286
02:15:31,400 --> 02:15:34,280
Speaker 9: they're dumb, they don't read well. Professor many knew.

2287
02:15:34,320 --> 02:15:34,720
Speaker 5: How do you know?

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02:15:35,000 --> 02:15:39,600
Speaker 9: You could see all of them Gingerweat who are captured

2289
02:15:39,680 --> 02:15:42,680
Speaker 9: and killed. These are Take a look at them. Any

2290
02:15:42,800 --> 02:15:45,840
Speaker 9: reasonable person can see that these are black folks who

2291
02:15:45,880 --> 02:15:49,560
Speaker 9: are ignorant, who are dumb, who are poor, who identify

2292
02:15:49,720 --> 02:15:52,920
Speaker 9: with these killers such as the Gingerweat, to kill off

2293
02:15:53,320 --> 02:15:56,280
Speaker 9: the Africans that they want to steal the land from

2294
02:15:56,520 --> 02:16:00,480
Speaker 9: and impose Islam. It's not going to happen. People are

2295
02:16:00,560 --> 02:16:03,960
Speaker 9: all Africans have demonstrated one thing. They're not going to

2296
02:16:04,040 --> 02:16:08,560
Speaker 9: allow anyone to impose their religious dogma on them. And

2297
02:16:08,640 --> 02:16:10,440
Speaker 9: one of the things that we can say is a

2298
02:16:10,560 --> 02:16:15,760
Speaker 9: great contribution by Africans is that indigenous Africans, original Africans,

2299
02:16:15,840 --> 02:16:19,600
Speaker 9: the small stature of Africans, who are the Imbhuti, the Ephe,

2300
02:16:20,040 --> 02:16:23,200
Speaker 9: the son, the Aka, the Baca, those that are four

2301
02:16:23,280 --> 02:16:25,560
Speaker 9: foot eight, four foot ten. We don't want to call

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02:16:25,600 --> 02:16:30,080
Speaker 9: them pigmies, because that's the European derogatory description, but they've

2303
02:16:30,200 --> 02:16:34,920
Speaker 9: never fought any wars period, and Africans don't fight wars.

2304
02:16:35,200 --> 02:16:39,920
Speaker 9: Indigenous Africans with indigenous values, indigenous practices don't fight wars

2305
02:16:40,360 --> 02:16:44,960
Speaker 9: over ideology and religion. Nope, that's the Christians, the Muslims

2306
02:16:45,160 --> 02:16:48,000
Speaker 9: and Jews they are those are the ones that fight

2307
02:16:48,160 --> 02:16:51,720
Speaker 9: over dogma and religious doctrine. That's not a part of

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02:16:51,840 --> 02:16:52,200
Speaker 9: the show.

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Speaker 1: The Professor we that step aside for a few moments.

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02:16:54,959 --> 02:16:56,720
Speaker 1: When come back, I'll let you finish you thought in

2311
02:16:56,800 --> 02:16:59,280
Speaker 1: April and Baltimore. Once you join the discussion family, you

2312
02:16:59,360 --> 02:17:01,480
Speaker 1: two can get in on this conversation. Reach out to

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02:17:01,600 --> 02:17:04,920
Speaker 1: us at eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six.

2314
02:17:04,959 --> 02:17:06,600
Speaker 1: I mus you're gonna step aside so our stations can

2315
02:17:06,680 --> 02:17:08,920
Speaker 1: identify themselves down the line. We're back with their phone

2316
02:17:08,959 --> 02:17:12,760
Speaker 1: calls and Professor ampin next and Grand Rising family, thanks

2317
02:17:12,800 --> 02:17:14,680
Speaker 1: for starting your week with us, and I guess Professor

2318
02:17:14,760 --> 02:17:16,880
Speaker 1: many New and Pinn from Contra Costa College out in

2319
02:17:16,920 --> 02:17:19,600
Speaker 1: northern California giving us an update or some background on

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02:17:19,680 --> 02:17:23,160
Speaker 1: what's going on in northern Nigeria. Also, the Sudan, I

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02:17:23,240 --> 02:17:25,440
Speaker 1: think it's just called Sudan right now. They used to

2322
02:17:25,760 --> 02:17:28,959
Speaker 1: like the Sedan like the Bronx. It's just just Sudan

2323
02:17:29,080 --> 02:17:29,320
Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 4: I think they change that.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, what are your thoughts eight hundred four or

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Speaker 1: five zero seventy eight seventy six. I mentioned before we

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02:17:35,879 --> 02:17:38,280
Speaker 1: left in April's waiting for us in Baltimore Online three

2328
02:17:38,600 --> 02:17:40,840
Speaker 1: wants to join the discussion Grand Rising in April on

2329
02:17:40,959 --> 02:17:41,879
Speaker 1: with Professor MPa.

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Speaker 13: Then how are you today? Just wanted to return to

2331
02:17:49,640 --> 02:17:52,320
Speaker 13: a part of the discussion around Nigeria and Sudan and

2332
02:17:52,400 --> 02:17:55,720
Speaker 13: call Sudan. I think one of the things that people

2333
02:17:55,800 --> 02:17:59,119
Speaker 13: need to think about is the oil and the fact

2334
02:17:59,160 --> 02:18:01,400
Speaker 13: that oil might be factor in all of the saber

2335
02:18:01,480 --> 02:18:05,240
Speaker 13: rat wing associated with the United States. Nigeria is one

2336
02:18:05,400 --> 02:18:09,440
Speaker 13: of the top produces in the world of oil, and

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02:18:10,080 --> 02:18:13,520
Speaker 13: Dan and South Sudan are both part of a new

2338
02:18:13,560 --> 02:18:18,200
Speaker 13: alliance called Apex Plus. It was developed to rival Opex

2339
02:18:19,720 --> 02:18:23,360
Speaker 13: also in oil production. And I think this is something

2340
02:18:23,400 --> 02:18:27,200
Speaker 13: that we have to consider that when our president is

2341
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Speaker 13: making pre textual threats against Venezuela, Canada, China, Nigeria, Brazil,

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Speaker 13: other countries in the global South, that there is a

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Speaker 13: usual monetary purpose behind them, and I would miss this

2344
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Speaker 13: to it.

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Speaker 6: Will all right?

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Speaker 4: Thank you, April, Professor MPIM you want to respond to anything.

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Speaker 9: She said, Yeah, Well, she's right. In Sudan, however, it's

2348
02:18:54,920 --> 02:19:02,040
Speaker 9: important to know that before uh the most recent conflict,

2349
02:19:02,640 --> 02:19:07,560
Speaker 9: there was literally a gold rush. So when we were

2350
02:19:07,680 --> 02:19:12,720
Speaker 9: traveling my colleagues and I'm into remote areas in Sudan

2351
02:19:12,920 --> 02:19:18,280
Speaker 9: going to remote archaeological sites, we would be driving in

2352
02:19:18,400 --> 02:19:21,080
Speaker 9: the desert. There's no asphalt, no road. I mean, it's

2353
02:19:21,160 --> 02:19:26,520
Speaker 9: just desert or just untold number of kilometers or miles,

2354
02:19:27,080 --> 02:19:29,760
Speaker 9: and then all of a sudden you see some lights

2355
02:19:30,080 --> 02:19:34,000
Speaker 9: or and it always looks like a village or town,

2356
02:19:34,120 --> 02:19:36,840
Speaker 9: but when you get close, this is a mining operation.

2357
02:19:37,680 --> 02:19:41,080
Speaker 9: So the area is known for gold. So like even

2358
02:19:41,360 --> 02:19:45,359
Speaker 9: the root word or the etymology of the word Nubia,

2359
02:19:45,600 --> 02:19:49,440
Speaker 9: history of the word Nubia, nub or nob means gold.

2360
02:19:49,920 --> 02:19:53,400
Speaker 9: So it's always considered the land of gold. And there

2361
02:19:53,520 --> 02:19:55,840
Speaker 9: was a gold rush. In fact, on one of my colleagues,

2362
02:19:56,480 --> 02:19:58,280
Speaker 9: he was trying to convince me to go in on

2363
02:19:58,440 --> 02:20:02,520
Speaker 9: some equipment to help mine for gold because rumors were

2364
02:20:02,560 --> 02:20:04,400
Speaker 9: out that there was a gold rush and people were

2365
02:20:04,400 --> 02:20:06,480
Speaker 9: striking it rich. And I told them, I said, look,

2366
02:20:06,480 --> 02:20:09,959
Speaker 9: I'm in California and there was a major gold rush

2367
02:20:10,040 --> 02:20:13,640
Speaker 9: here in gold was discovered in eighteen forty eight, but

2368
02:20:13,720 --> 02:20:15,880
Speaker 9: the rush started in eighteen forty nine, and it was

2369
02:20:16,000 --> 02:20:21,200
Speaker 9: more stories of people striking it rich than reality. So

2370
02:20:21,200 --> 02:20:23,280
Speaker 9: a lot of the people that migrated to California to

2371
02:20:23,360 --> 02:20:26,600
Speaker 9: strike it rich ended up remaining here because they never

2372
02:20:26,720 --> 02:20:30,040
Speaker 9: found any gold and had to end up staying. But nevertheless,

2373
02:20:30,440 --> 02:20:33,760
Speaker 9: it's been a gold production and gold distribution reasion for

2374
02:20:33,879 --> 02:20:37,199
Speaker 9: a while and that is the main thing. Yes, there's oil,

2375
02:20:37,760 --> 02:20:41,120
Speaker 9: but the main thing that the non Arab Emirates and

2376
02:20:41,400 --> 02:20:46,640
Speaker 9: Russia have been concerned about is extracting and stealing the gold,

2377
02:20:47,440 --> 02:20:50,120
Speaker 9: and that has been the number one commodity, and of

2378
02:20:50,280 --> 02:20:53,039
Speaker 9: course oil was there, but the bottom line is natural

2379
02:20:53,160 --> 02:20:56,960
Speaker 9: resources that they're after and doesn't mind. It doesn't matter

2380
02:20:57,080 --> 02:21:01,640
Speaker 9: to these criminals that villagers and people are being slaughtered.

2381
02:21:01,840 --> 02:21:04,240
Speaker 9: That's not their issue. Their issue is to continue to

2382
02:21:04,280 --> 02:21:08,200
Speaker 9: bring in tons of money. And Sudan is one of

2383
02:21:08,280 --> 02:21:13,280
Speaker 9: those regions where gold in antiquity and gold today, it's

2384
02:21:13,320 --> 02:21:16,680
Speaker 9: still been something that's attracted people to the area. And

2385
02:21:16,720 --> 02:21:19,640
Speaker 9: when you look at the ancient art, what were people trading.

2386
02:21:19,640 --> 02:21:23,120
Speaker 9: They're trading in gold, and a lot of times I'll

2387
02:21:23,160 --> 02:21:25,160
Speaker 9: point out to folks, so you take a look at

2388
02:21:25,200 --> 02:21:27,560
Speaker 9: some of those beautiful images. Not only are the images

2389
02:21:27,600 --> 02:21:29,959
Speaker 9: of these Africans beautiful, but look at what they're trading.

2390
02:21:30,400 --> 02:21:32,400
Speaker 9: And one of the things is that you'll see rings

2391
02:21:32,560 --> 02:21:36,200
Speaker 9: of gold, and anytime you see three, it's plural. So

2392
02:21:36,520 --> 02:21:38,240
Speaker 9: a lot of times with the ancient art going back

2393
02:21:38,280 --> 02:21:41,400
Speaker 9: thousands of Yere's, you'll see not only three rings of gold,

2394
02:21:41,480 --> 02:21:44,760
Speaker 9: but three and another three to indicate literally tons of

2395
02:21:44,879 --> 02:21:47,960
Speaker 9: gold being traded in the area. And this is what

2396
02:21:48,080 --> 02:21:51,880
Speaker 9: attracts these criminals who are investing in the war in

2397
02:21:52,080 --> 02:21:53,080
Speaker 9: places like Sudan.

2398
02:21:54,480 --> 02:21:56,960
Speaker 1: Gotcha six after the top of our brother and Cosey's

2399
02:21:57,040 --> 02:22:04,560
Speaker 1: checking in from Chicago. He's online too, Grant Brothers, Grand Rising.

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02:22:04,320 --> 02:22:08,880
Speaker 5: And Jumbo my brothers. Professor m. Pim, you're one of

2401
02:22:08,959 --> 02:22:12,920
Speaker 5: my favorite people on this line. I took the heart

2402
02:22:12,959 --> 02:22:16,600
Speaker 5: what you said about etymology. I was big on it already,

2403
02:22:16,840 --> 02:22:22,200
Speaker 5: but I explored new depths with your encouragement. From what

2404
02:22:22,400 --> 02:22:28,080
Speaker 5: you just said about the ginger viv or ginger vites

2405
02:22:28,160 --> 02:22:31,800
Speaker 5: or whatever they are, I derived that this is a

2406
02:22:32,040 --> 02:22:37,879
Speaker 5: continuation of the invasion by the Hiksos described by Doctor

2407
02:22:37,959 --> 02:22:44,519
Speaker 5: Chancellor Williams in the Destruction of our Civilization that invaded

2408
02:22:44,680 --> 02:22:47,160
Speaker 5: the north part of Africa and took it over. That's

2409
02:22:47,200 --> 02:22:52,280
Speaker 5: why we have places like Egypt now and the Gingervites

2410
02:22:52,920 --> 02:22:56,120
Speaker 5: and United Arab Emirates and Cut are all parts of

2411
02:22:56,240 --> 02:22:59,040
Speaker 5: the same movement extended into the future.

2412
02:23:00,120 --> 02:23:00,240
Speaker 3: Uh.

2413
02:23:01,000 --> 02:23:05,039
Speaker 5: I agree with the sister about the oil. UH. China

2414
02:23:05,320 --> 02:23:09,880
Speaker 5: has recently had restrictions and probably still are continueing them

2415
02:23:10,600 --> 02:23:15,760
Speaker 5: on rare earth minerals UH being exported to the United States,

2416
02:23:15,840 --> 02:23:22,240
Speaker 5: which I used for military reasons. H Apple hand bombs.

2417
02:23:23,160 --> 02:23:28,640
Speaker 5: UH everything down to a telephone. And I think I

2418
02:23:28,840 --> 02:23:32,000
Speaker 5: remember reading about a lot of rare earth minerals being

2419
02:23:32,200 --> 02:23:36,000
Speaker 5: untapped around the areas of Nigeria and Sudan. If this

2420
02:23:36,240 --> 02:23:41,160
Speaker 5: is true, with would this be another reason why uh?

2421
02:23:41,440 --> 02:23:47,200
Speaker 5: The Arab United Arab Emirated and Cut and all of them,

2422
02:23:47,600 --> 02:23:52,080
Speaker 5: UH and everybody else is trying to take over their land.

2423
02:23:59,640 --> 02:24:03,280
Speaker 9: But they brother and cosey. Yeah, taking over land is

2424
02:24:03,360 --> 02:24:11,720
Speaker 9: definitely a fundamental goal because by origin, Arab means desert dweller,

2425
02:24:12,400 --> 02:24:15,480
Speaker 9: literally desert dweller. So these are lot of people of

2426
02:24:15,720 --> 02:24:19,280
Speaker 9: settled areas if you go back far enough, and so

2427
02:24:20,040 --> 02:24:26,680
Speaker 9: coming in to take over viable land for farming and production.

2428
02:24:26,920 --> 02:24:30,120
Speaker 9: This has been something that's been happening for quite some time.

2429
02:24:30,760 --> 02:24:33,440
Speaker 9: So yes, a lot of the folks or groups in

2430
02:24:33,520 --> 02:24:37,120
Speaker 9: that region have been a part of that. So the

2431
02:24:37,200 --> 02:24:41,160
Speaker 9: Hickshos are really a not so well known group. But

2432
02:24:41,280 --> 02:24:45,600
Speaker 9: we certainly know about the Assyrians. The Assyrians from current

2433
02:24:45,680 --> 02:24:48,440
Speaker 9: day Iraq. They were one of the invading groups that

2434
02:24:48,600 --> 02:24:52,600
Speaker 9: came in and very brutal, very brutal culture where you

2435
02:24:52,720 --> 02:24:57,160
Speaker 9: see them for sport just killing lions. You can see

2436
02:24:57,200 --> 02:24:59,400
Speaker 9: this very clearly in their own art. I mean, who

2437
02:24:59,480 --> 02:25:03,200
Speaker 9: does that just to kill off lions? And for it

2438
02:25:03,320 --> 02:25:06,520
Speaker 9: is a blood sport, a spectator sport, a blood sport.

2439
02:25:06,600 --> 02:25:09,720
Speaker 9: And after killing the lions through torture similar to bull fighting,

2440
02:25:10,080 --> 02:25:13,800
Speaker 9: then they would dedicate the killed and tortured lion to

2441
02:25:13,959 --> 02:25:17,560
Speaker 9: their deities. But these are the people that Africans had

2442
02:25:17,600 --> 02:25:20,520
Speaker 9: to fight off in the northeast African region, the Assyrians,

2443
02:25:20,560 --> 02:25:23,040
Speaker 9: and then the Persians, the Greeks, the Romans, and now

2444
02:25:23,120 --> 02:25:25,720
Speaker 9: you have the modern invaders. That the Arabs are not

2445
02:25:25,840 --> 02:25:29,879
Speaker 9: bringing Islam into the seventh century of the Common Era,

2446
02:25:30,080 --> 02:25:33,560
Speaker 9: so this was thousands, you know, over a thousand years later,

2447
02:25:33,959 --> 02:25:36,480
Speaker 9: but they certainly have brought a lot of havoc. And

2448
02:25:37,040 --> 02:25:39,960
Speaker 9: now let's also say this, and you mentioned a great doctor,

2449
02:25:40,080 --> 02:25:43,880
Speaker 9: Chancell Williams, who did research in twenty six countries and

2450
02:25:43,959 --> 02:25:47,680
Speaker 9: among one hundred and five different African language groups in

2451
02:25:47,760 --> 02:25:50,040
Speaker 9: the nineteen fifties. One of the things that chance To

2452
02:25:50,040 --> 02:25:54,160
Speaker 9: Williams points out is that there is too much division

2453
02:25:54,280 --> 02:25:58,320
Speaker 9: and tribalism among Africans internally. It has nothing to do

2454
02:25:58,400 --> 02:26:01,240
Speaker 9: with anybody else, and so this is also part of

2455
02:26:01,320 --> 02:26:03,640
Speaker 9: the issue. So one of the things that keeps the

2456
02:26:03,760 --> 02:26:09,119
Speaker 9: group uniting internally among themselves and keeps their culture stable

2457
02:26:09,680 --> 02:26:14,119
Speaker 9: over generations and century and millennias, over thousands of years

2458
02:26:14,680 --> 02:26:18,000
Speaker 9: is their internal unity. But they're so fixated on their

2459
02:26:18,120 --> 02:26:22,480
Speaker 9: own groups that that brings them sometimes in conflict with

2460
02:26:22,560 --> 02:26:25,200
Speaker 9: other groups. I see it all the time when I travel.

2461
02:26:25,280 --> 02:26:27,320
Speaker 9: I see it when I travel in South Sudan. There's

2462
02:26:27,360 --> 02:26:29,440
Speaker 9: nothing to do with outsiders. I see it when I

2463
02:26:29,560 --> 02:26:32,320
Speaker 9: travel in Ethiopia, has nothing to do with outsiders. So

2464
02:26:32,440 --> 02:26:35,360
Speaker 9: on the one hand, the internal unity is great. It

2465
02:26:35,440 --> 02:26:40,720
Speaker 9: allows for the culture to continue over long periods of time.

2466
02:26:40,800 --> 02:26:45,360
Speaker 9: African stability is a result of that. But then it

2467
02:26:45,480 --> 02:26:48,480
Speaker 9: also brings them in conflict with other groups. And then

2468
02:26:48,520 --> 02:26:50,960
Speaker 9: if you add the outsiders who have an agenda to

2469
02:26:51,160 --> 02:26:55,440
Speaker 9: extract and steel resources, then it complicates the situation. Where

2470
02:26:55,760 --> 02:26:58,240
Speaker 9: what we now see today you have the kind of

2471
02:26:58,320 --> 02:27:01,520
Speaker 9: conflict that continues because you have the outside groups coming

2472
02:27:01,600 --> 02:27:04,160
Speaker 9: to take land and then you have the international criminals

2473
02:27:04,520 --> 02:27:07,760
Speaker 9: that are helping to aid and fund this. So so

2474
02:27:08,040 --> 02:27:11,160
Speaker 9: thank you for that point, my brother. But certainly we

2475
02:27:11,280 --> 02:27:14,640
Speaker 9: have to be aware of the historical background. Is also

2476
02:27:15,000 --> 02:27:21,560
Speaker 9: the contemporary issues because Africa has some hotspots that don't

2477
02:27:21,600 --> 02:27:23,480
Speaker 9: get covered in the regular media.

2478
02:27:25,280 --> 02:27:25,440
Speaker 3: Too.

2479
02:27:25,560 --> 02:27:30,039
Speaker 4: John Natter, thank you and Cozy twelve af the Top.

2480
02:27:30,120 --> 02:27:32,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, with our guests Professor Manu and Pen discussion what's

2481
02:27:32,720 --> 02:27:35,600
Speaker 1: going on in Nigeria, Northern Nigeria and so Dan you

2482
02:27:35,680 --> 02:27:37,400
Speaker 1: can reach us an eight hundred and four or five

2483
02:27:37,520 --> 02:27:40,640
Speaker 1: zero seventy eight seventy six. Reggis in Maryland. He wants

2484
02:27:40,640 --> 02:27:43,720
Speaker 1: to get join the discussion. He's online three Grand Rising, Reggie,

2485
02:27:43,760 --> 02:27:45,359
Speaker 1: you're on my professor Impen.

2486
02:27:47,080 --> 02:27:51,680
Speaker 14: Grand Rising, brother Quasi and to the guests, uh and

2487
02:27:53,400 --> 02:27:59,560
Speaker 14: happy birthday to Colin Kaepernick today, Sir, I'm still doing

2488
02:27:59,600 --> 02:28:02,400
Speaker 14: a lot of research on this, trying to follow behind

2489
02:28:02,440 --> 02:28:06,600
Speaker 14: these criminals. So I want to make a comment and

2490
02:28:07,080 --> 02:28:10,680
Speaker 14: can you fill in the blanks. There was two CI

2491
02:28:10,920 --> 02:28:20,240
Speaker 14: agents caught in Trinidad trying to sink American ship that

2492
02:28:20,360 --> 02:28:24,120
Speaker 14: they had close there to be able to strike Venezuela

2493
02:28:24,240 --> 02:28:28,200
Speaker 14: to steal an oil. That's what it's about. And those

2494
02:28:28,280 --> 02:28:33,880
Speaker 14: two CI agents were caught in by the authorities and

2495
02:28:33,959 --> 02:28:37,240
Speaker 14: they admitted to sinking the ship and they were going

2496
02:28:37,320 --> 02:28:40,320
Speaker 14: to blame it on America. They were going to blame

2497
02:28:40,400 --> 02:28:44,840
Speaker 14: it on the Venezuela's as a reason to go in.

2498
02:28:45,240 --> 02:28:51,880
Speaker 14: That's number one. The CIA puppet leader of Nigeria that

2499
02:28:52,080 --> 02:28:55,200
Speaker 14: was put in place by America. He's not willing to

2500
02:28:55,280 --> 02:28:59,680
Speaker 14: go along and saying it's a lie that Christians are

2501
02:28:59,720 --> 02:29:02,520
Speaker 14: being killed in Nigerias so they can go in and

2502
02:29:02,600 --> 02:29:07,080
Speaker 14: take the oil there. So between those two what I

2503
02:29:07,240 --> 02:29:10,280
Speaker 14: just talked about, could you fill in the blanks of

2504
02:29:10,440 --> 02:29:11,360
Speaker 14: what just happened.

2505
02:29:14,600 --> 02:29:21,320
Speaker 9: Okay, Yeah, So with Venezuela, Hugo Chavez was somebody that

2506
02:29:21,520 --> 02:29:28,240
Speaker 9: was elected by the people and the the indigenous people

2507
02:29:28,280 --> 02:29:32,200
Speaker 9: in every independent organization in the world said there were

2508
02:29:32,360 --> 02:29:37,040
Speaker 9: free and fair elections. But Hugo Chavez was on the

2509
02:29:37,200 --> 02:29:40,240
Speaker 9: US enemy list because of the fact that he was

2510
02:29:40,320 --> 02:29:42,040
Speaker 9: not going to give up the oil and let the

2511
02:29:43,680 --> 02:29:48,080
Speaker 9: government exploit the oil. So the the United States government

2512
02:29:48,760 --> 02:29:53,920
Speaker 9: literally because when after he took power at the end

2513
02:29:54,000 --> 02:29:57,800
Speaker 9: of last century. About two decades ago, they started calling

2514
02:29:57,840 --> 02:30:01,000
Speaker 9: him a dictator and called for him. It's not just Oulster,

2515
02:30:01,160 --> 02:30:04,280
Speaker 9: but for his assassination publicly. The issue is that, well,

2516
02:30:04,360 --> 02:30:06,720
Speaker 9: these are free and fair elections. Doesn't matter what someone

2517
02:30:06,800 --> 02:30:09,760
Speaker 9: else thinks about it. These were open elections and he

2518
02:30:09,879 --> 02:30:12,440
Speaker 9: got more of the popular voting than any US president

2519
02:30:12,600 --> 02:30:17,680
Speaker 9: has in decades and decades. So it was to villainize

2520
02:30:18,360 --> 02:30:20,440
Speaker 9: Chavez and his government in the fact that he was

2521
02:30:20,520 --> 02:30:23,119
Speaker 9: using the resources to help the people, and that's been

2522
02:30:23,160 --> 02:30:26,240
Speaker 9: pretty well documented. The man was elected not once but

2523
02:30:26,360 --> 02:30:30,120
Speaker 9: even twice. But you know, the issue is there's no

2524
02:30:30,959 --> 02:30:34,560
Speaker 9: evidence that there's any particular targeting of any one group

2525
02:30:34,680 --> 02:30:39,240
Speaker 9: in Nigeria. So that country has certainly had problems as

2526
02:30:39,280 --> 02:30:43,920
Speaker 9: other countries have, and so why are they now trying

2527
02:30:44,000 --> 02:30:48,320
Speaker 9: to pinpoint a specific group is not accurate. There are

2528
02:30:48,400 --> 02:30:53,400
Speaker 9: people who are of different Muslim divisions that are also

2529
02:30:53,480 --> 02:30:56,960
Speaker 9: the target of vocal haram and insurgency groups. You always

2530
02:30:57,000 --> 02:31:02,160
Speaker 9: have insurgency groups when there is instability or perceive instability

2531
02:31:02,680 --> 02:31:06,560
Speaker 9: in any government. So we have, you know, these destabilization

2532
02:31:06,680 --> 02:31:10,920
Speaker 9: of leadership in these different countries, whether it's Venezuela or

2533
02:31:11,160 --> 02:31:14,360
Speaker 9: Nigeria or other countries that we should be aware of.

2534
02:31:14,600 --> 02:31:19,360
Speaker 9: And what I do I read alternative media. It's very important.

2535
02:31:19,600 --> 02:31:23,640
Speaker 9: I mean, what does the international media say. Matter of fact,

2536
02:31:23,720 --> 02:31:27,160
Speaker 9: even as Bias says the BBC, the British Broadcasting Corporation

2537
02:31:27,400 --> 02:31:30,160
Speaker 9: is in its light years ahead of seeing IT and

2538
02:31:30,800 --> 02:31:35,120
Speaker 9: other legacy networks. But these legacy networks has lost a

2539
02:31:35,280 --> 02:31:37,960
Speaker 9: large percentage of its viewership because people know that they're

2540
02:31:37,959 --> 02:31:40,640
Speaker 9: full of it and they recognize it was full of

2541
02:31:40,760 --> 02:31:44,120
Speaker 9: it with the last election because they knew that there

2542
02:31:44,240 --> 02:31:48,199
Speaker 9: was no way that Kamalin Harris had any real chance

2543
02:31:48,320 --> 02:31:51,080
Speaker 9: to win. But they continue to milk the donors and

2544
02:31:51,280 --> 02:31:54,240
Speaker 9: lie so that they can give all of those millions,

2545
02:31:54,320 --> 02:31:56,840
Speaker 9: thinking that their money would make a difference and it didn't.

2546
02:31:57,160 --> 02:32:00,840
Speaker 9: So anyway, you know, looking at international those sources is

2547
02:32:01,560 --> 02:32:03,680
Speaker 9: really important. That's what I do on a regular basis

2548
02:32:03,760 --> 02:32:07,360
Speaker 9: if I'm not traveling directly to those countries. But if

2549
02:32:07,360 --> 02:32:10,640
Speaker 9: we look specifically at Africa, you know, it's really important

2550
02:32:10,720 --> 02:32:14,680
Speaker 9: that we look at As we said earlier, regional issues

2551
02:32:15,120 --> 02:32:17,680
Speaker 9: in Nigeria is just one of those places that concerns

2552
02:32:17,720 --> 02:32:22,400
Speaker 9: the US. But what about the Alliance of Saihel states,

2553
02:32:22,480 --> 02:32:25,160
Speaker 9: This is what they're mainly concerned about. But they can't

2554
02:32:25,240 --> 02:32:27,360
Speaker 9: get at for Kena Farsoul because they know that there

2555
02:32:27,360 --> 02:32:30,600
Speaker 9: would be massive resistance. In fact, the Alliance of Saihels

2556
02:32:30,600 --> 02:32:35,959
Speaker 9: States Mali for Kina Farsaul Niger, they have a mutual

2557
02:32:36,879 --> 02:32:39,800
Speaker 9: defense pack, so it's not so easy for the US

2558
02:32:39,959 --> 02:32:41,920
Speaker 9: just to go in there directly. So they're looking at

2559
02:32:42,160 --> 02:32:45,080
Speaker 9: regional instability, and even if they have puppets, it's still

2560
02:32:45,200 --> 02:32:47,320
Speaker 9: not going to be that easy. It will never be

2561
02:32:47,440 --> 02:32:49,920
Speaker 9: that easy to just go in and take what they

2562
02:32:50,000 --> 02:32:54,280
Speaker 9: want because you know, unless they have to go in

2563
02:32:54,400 --> 02:32:56,800
Speaker 9: with boots on the ground. So let's see what happens.

2564
02:32:56,879 --> 02:33:00,400
Speaker 9: But I do know that this recent series of tweets

2565
02:33:00,480 --> 02:33:05,240
Speaker 9: by this guy in dc UH and being supported by

2566
02:33:05,360 --> 02:33:08,480
Speaker 9: media sources or something that we definitely we definitely should

2567
02:33:08,480 --> 02:33:10,920
Speaker 9: look at. But clearly West Africa is ready and this

2568
02:33:11,000 --> 02:33:13,720
Speaker 9: is why they formed a new alliance because ECHOAS and

2569
02:33:13,800 --> 02:33:16,920
Speaker 9: some of the other bodies, even the African Union, they

2570
02:33:16,920 --> 02:33:19,199
Speaker 9: don't do any back from the African Union having taken

2571
02:33:19,240 --> 02:33:21,240
Speaker 9: a position. A lot of things that are happening because

2572
02:33:21,240 --> 02:33:25,440
Speaker 9: there's a weak and ineffective you know right there, we got.

2573
02:33:25,400 --> 02:33:27,200
Speaker 1: To take a short break here eighteen minutes. At the

2574
02:33:27,280 --> 02:33:29,760
Speaker 1: top of that, thank you for your call, Reggie eight

2575
02:33:29,879 --> 02:33:32,280
Speaker 1: hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy sixth are

2576
02:33:32,320 --> 02:33:34,600
Speaker 1: discussing what's going on in NIGERA, what's going on in Sudan?

2577
02:33:34,720 --> 02:33:36,440
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? Reach out to us and we

2578
02:33:36,560 --> 02:33:38,360
Speaker 1: take your phone calls. Next for for the seven main

2579
02:33:38,440 --> 02:33:41,360
Speaker 1: new MPM and Grand Rising family, thanks to staying with

2580
02:33:41,520 --> 02:33:44,279
Speaker 1: us on this Monday morning here the first Monday in November.

2581
02:33:44,520 --> 02:33:47,120
Speaker 1: I guess it's a professor main New mpment teachers a

2582
02:33:47,160 --> 02:33:49,840
Speaker 1: contract cost the college in Northern California discussing what's going

2583
02:33:49,879 --> 02:33:52,600
Speaker 1: on in Nigeria Northern night yea to be exact, and

2584
02:33:52,720 --> 02:33:54,880
Speaker 1: also what's going on in Sudan? What are your thoughts?

2585
02:33:54,920 --> 02:33:59,240
Speaker 1: Eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy six? First,

2586
02:33:59,520 --> 02:34:01,240
Speaker 1: I MT you fel should thought that where tweet? I

2587
02:34:01,280 --> 02:34:02,720
Speaker 1: wanted to know if you could give us a brief

2588
02:34:02,840 --> 02:34:06,560
Speaker 1: history of what is an Arab? Where did they come from?

2589
02:34:08,360 --> 02:34:08,640
Speaker 5: Okay?

2590
02:34:09,040 --> 02:34:12,760
Speaker 9: So just the last thought with the with the brother's

2591
02:34:12,840 --> 02:34:15,560
Speaker 9: question is that we have to look at several factors

2592
02:34:15,680 --> 02:34:18,040
Speaker 9: with a lot of the interests that the US have

2593
02:34:18,760 --> 02:34:22,800
Speaker 9: as they're promoting UH destabilizing different areas in different countries,

2594
02:34:23,040 --> 02:34:28,039
Speaker 9: that there's there's there's economic issues, there's ideological issues and interests,

2595
02:34:28,040 --> 02:34:31,520
Speaker 9: and there's also foreign interest and there's not just one thing.

2596
02:34:31,720 --> 02:34:35,080
Speaker 9: And we have to look at at these UH at

2597
02:34:35,160 --> 02:34:38,600
Speaker 9: these different sources and really be as diverse as possible

2598
02:34:38,600 --> 02:34:40,920
Speaker 9: when looking at where do we get our information UH

2599
02:34:41,080 --> 02:34:43,400
Speaker 9: from Thudan for example, A lot of the information from

2600
02:34:43,560 --> 02:34:46,760
Speaker 9: my own personal experience. But one of the CNN journalists

2601
02:34:47,200 --> 02:34:51,800
Speaker 9: who was from Sudan, Niba Elberger, they did a secret

2602
02:34:51,840 --> 02:34:56,040
Speaker 9: investigation with hidden cameras and and over a year or

2603
02:34:56,080 --> 02:34:59,360
Speaker 9: so ago to go into the network of what was

2604
02:34:59,400 --> 02:35:02,000
Speaker 9: happening with the gingerweat and the lies that were being

2605
02:35:02,080 --> 02:35:04,720
Speaker 9: told by the UAE. So this is our we're able

2606
02:35:04,760 --> 02:35:07,040
Speaker 9: to see exactly what their goal is, even though they've

2607
02:35:07,120 --> 02:35:10,680
Speaker 9: stated the goal to kill off Africans, but exactly how

2608
02:35:10,720 --> 02:35:15,160
Speaker 9: they're going about getting in the weapons. So the Arabs,

2609
02:35:15,959 --> 02:35:19,359
Speaker 9: they are promoting Islam, and there's nothing wrong with Islam.

2610
02:35:20,560 --> 02:35:22,840
Speaker 9: I know people who are Muslims that you wouldn't even

2611
02:35:22,959 --> 02:35:26,400
Speaker 9: know they're Muslims unless you saw the way they pray

2612
02:35:26,720 --> 02:35:29,959
Speaker 9: or something like that. But they are as balanced as

2613
02:35:30,000 --> 02:35:32,879
Speaker 9: anybody but then you have a lot of people who

2614
02:35:32,959 --> 02:35:39,160
Speaker 9: are extremists. There's Christian extremists, Jewish extremists, but these Islamic extremists,

2615
02:35:39,720 --> 02:35:44,320
Speaker 9: a lot of them. These are just die hard, just

2616
02:35:46,320 --> 02:35:49,680
Speaker 9: propagandists who are not going to think for themselves. They

2617
02:35:49,720 --> 02:35:52,720
Speaker 9: are afraid to even question anything in the Quran. That

2618
02:35:52,800 --> 02:35:55,840
Speaker 9: they're not to question it because then they might start doubting.

2619
02:35:56,280 --> 02:36:02,920
Speaker 9: So they're taught to conform a conform in totality. So

2620
02:36:03,160 --> 02:36:07,560
Speaker 9: when the Arabs in the seventh century of the Common Era,

2621
02:36:07,720 --> 02:36:11,200
Speaker 9: around six forty or so of the Common Era, so

2622
02:36:11,280 --> 02:36:13,840
Speaker 9: called AD, we don't use AD anymore because that means

2623
02:36:13,920 --> 02:36:17,080
Speaker 9: Anti Domini in the year of our Lord. And for

2624
02:36:17,160 --> 02:36:21,119
Speaker 9: the last couple of decades, historians don't use any things

2625
02:36:21,320 --> 02:36:24,360
Speaker 9: like that that would refer to a particular religion because

2626
02:36:24,440 --> 02:36:27,160
Speaker 9: most people in the world are not Christians, so we

2627
02:36:27,320 --> 02:36:29,400
Speaker 9: tell the history of the world in a more neutral way.

2628
02:36:29,520 --> 02:36:32,760
Speaker 9: So instead of Anti Domini or AD, we use Common

2629
02:36:32,840 --> 02:36:36,480
Speaker 9: Era because there's different calendars by different groups around the world,

2630
02:36:36,520 --> 02:36:39,920
Speaker 9: and they don't subscribe to the Christian calendar. But anyway,

2631
02:36:40,760 --> 02:36:42,840
Speaker 9: the Arabs come in in six' forty or The Common,

2632
02:36:42,879 --> 02:36:46,480
Speaker 9: era they come in To, kimmic and not Just, kimmic

2633
02:36:46,560 --> 02:36:50,360
Speaker 9: but they spread throughout The North african. Area and they're

2634
02:36:50,440 --> 02:36:53,520
Speaker 9: not just coming, in they're coming in as. Invaders they're

2635
02:36:53,560 --> 02:36:58,000
Speaker 9: coming in spreading their, culture their, language and definitely their.

2636
02:36:58,080 --> 02:37:02,600
Speaker 9: Religion and so this was not people coming in under

2637
02:37:03,360 --> 02:37:07,640
Speaker 9: kind and friendly, terms but under terms of aggression and

2638
02:37:07,840 --> 02:37:12,240
Speaker 9: warfare and imposition of their cultural. Ideas and this is

2639
02:37:12,320 --> 02:37:14,920
Speaker 9: what we found now is that with that, happening now

2640
02:37:15,000 --> 02:37:18,720
Speaker 9: you have conflict over ideas and. Religion this has never

2641
02:37:18,840 --> 02:37:22,000
Speaker 9: been the case in Traditional africa at. All if there was,

2642
02:37:22,160 --> 02:37:25,880
Speaker 9: conflict it's over border, disputes you, know because people have

2643
02:37:26,040 --> 02:37:28,600
Speaker 9: cattle In East, africa for, example and the cattle needs

2644
02:37:28,600 --> 02:37:31,800
Speaker 9: a lot of land to. Graze but they don't fight over.

2645
02:37:31,920 --> 02:37:35,280
Speaker 9: Ideas but now with the imposition Of, islam this is

2646
02:37:35,360 --> 02:37:40,520
Speaker 9: certainly the. Case so The, arabs they are by deaf by,

2647
02:37:40,680 --> 02:37:43,920
Speaker 9: origin they are desert dwellers that come from the. East

2648
02:37:44,440 --> 02:37:48,959
Speaker 9: they don't have settled agricultural, lands so these are desert.

2649
02:37:49,040 --> 02:37:53,000
Speaker 9: Dwellers that's what An arab's origin. Is and these desert

2650
02:37:53,080 --> 02:37:57,000
Speaker 9: dwellers start to move in from The east and to

2651
02:37:57,360 --> 02:38:02,240
Speaker 9: confiscate a takeover land and great conflict because Obviously africans

2652
02:38:02,280 --> 02:38:03,960
Speaker 9: and no one else is just going to give up

2653
02:38:03,959 --> 02:38:08,160
Speaker 9: their land to some foreign. Group so in that, area,

2654
02:38:08,280 --> 02:38:12,600
Speaker 9: now whether it's In egypt Or, sudan you know they're

2655
02:38:12,800 --> 02:38:17,039
Speaker 9: mainly most of the There's christians In, egypt but more

2656
02:38:17,160 --> 02:38:21,760
Speaker 9: of them are Are muslim people In sudan most Of.

2657
02:38:21,920 --> 02:38:25,640
Speaker 9: Muslim and you look across From Algeria, morocco these are

2658
02:38:25,720 --> 02:38:29,280
Speaker 9: people that have lineage to Those arab groups that come

2659
02:38:29,360 --> 02:38:32,040
Speaker 9: in at the in the seventh century of The Common,

2660
02:38:32,120 --> 02:38:34,879
Speaker 9: era and they also went Into West africa as well

2661
02:38:35,440 --> 02:38:39,800
Speaker 9: and started to convert the. Leadership so The Great kingdoms Of, Ghana, Mali,

2662
02:38:39,920 --> 02:38:46,000
Speaker 9: song the early early civilization Of, ghana these were leaders

2663
02:38:46,040 --> 02:38:49,560
Speaker 9: that were still connected through their traditional. Culture In mali

2664
02:38:50,000 --> 02:38:52,800
Speaker 9: people were the leaders were converting To, islam even though

2665
02:38:52,879 --> 02:38:56,840
Speaker 9: they were still connected to Traditional african spiritual. Systems but

2666
02:38:56,920 --> 02:38:58,960
Speaker 9: the leadership was. Changing and then by the time Of

2667
02:38:59,080 --> 02:39:05,480
Speaker 9: songhai in the fourteen hundreds and fifteen, hundreds they more

2668
02:39:05,480 --> 02:39:08,400
Speaker 9: and more had converted To. Islam but it's not Just

2669
02:39:08,959 --> 02:39:12,480
Speaker 9: islam causing. Problems the same thing With. Christianity many people

2670
02:39:12,520 --> 02:39:17,600
Speaker 9: are familiar with Genoah chebe and his Book Themes Fall

2671
02:39:17,680 --> 02:39:20,920
Speaker 9: apart all of us said in the historically black. COLLEGES

2672
02:39:20,959 --> 02:39:22,920
Speaker 9: i was At Morgan State. University we all had to

2673
02:39:23,000 --> 02:39:25,560
Speaker 9: read things fall apart and at least one of Our english,

2674
02:39:25,600 --> 02:39:30,520
Speaker 9: classes and he perfectly lays out how the foreigners they

2675
02:39:30,640 --> 02:39:34,760
Speaker 9: bring In christianity and eventually convert the entire. Society but

2676
02:39:34,879 --> 02:39:38,000
Speaker 9: that was not without. Conflict so we have these groups

2677
02:39:38,080 --> 02:39:42,080
Speaker 9: coming in to convert and change and destroy if people don't.

2678
02:39:42,120 --> 02:39:46,640
Speaker 9: Agree and by the, way this still continues today because

2679
02:39:46,680 --> 02:39:49,480
Speaker 9: When i'm in remote, AREAS i mean very remote areas

2680
02:39:49,560 --> 02:39:53,120
Speaker 9: Of ethiopia AS i do my field research in the,

2681
02:39:53,240 --> 02:39:56,480
Speaker 9: region like in The Omo valley and the southern part Of,

2682
02:39:56,520 --> 02:40:00,440
Speaker 9: ethiopia there are group and also the northern part Of

2683
02:40:00,640 --> 02:40:04,760
Speaker 9: kenya there are also these groups like The Joshua project

2684
02:40:04,840 --> 02:40:07,440
Speaker 9: and other outrageous. Groups they're going in some of the

2685
02:40:07,560 --> 02:40:11,920
Speaker 9: same communities not to help preserve the cultural traditions and

2686
02:40:12,000 --> 02:40:15,160
Speaker 9: support the. People know The Joshua project is in there

2687
02:40:15,240 --> 02:40:18,000
Speaker 9: to convert them and make Them, christians and that is

2688
02:40:18,080 --> 02:40:23,120
Speaker 9: their stated. Goal so outsiders are bringing in religion that

2689
02:40:23,320 --> 02:40:27,120
Speaker 9: is simply extreme ideology that does not help the. People

2690
02:40:27,440 --> 02:40:30,320
Speaker 9: it rids them of their cultural tradition and they are

2691
02:40:30,400 --> 02:40:34,400
Speaker 9: no better off than after these groups come, In so

2692
02:40:34,480 --> 02:40:36,360
Speaker 9: they're not helping them in any kind of, way but

2693
02:40:36,440 --> 02:40:39,920
Speaker 9: they certainly are spreading their propaganda and anybody that resists

2694
02:40:40,520 --> 02:40:44,200
Speaker 9: that imposition against their traditional, culture then this creates the.

2695
02:40:44,360 --> 02:40:46,920
Speaker 9: Conflict and of course you have a lot of resources

2696
02:40:46,959 --> 02:40:49,960
Speaker 9: in those. Regions so this is when outside foreign interests

2697
02:40:50,560 --> 02:40:52,760
Speaker 9: come into, play when they can see how to exploit

2698
02:40:53,360 --> 02:40:58,720
Speaker 9: the region for the resources and if that requires continuing,

2699
02:40:58,920 --> 02:41:02,160
Speaker 9: conflict groups are, divided and that's exactly what they will.

2700
02:41:02,240 --> 02:41:04,520
Speaker 9: Do and that's what we see in the areas that

2701
02:41:04,560 --> 02:41:07,440
Speaker 9: we're talking about, today whether It's nigeria on the west

2702
02:41:07,560 --> 02:41:10,680
Speaker 9: coast Or sudan in the eastern. Area so this is

2703
02:41:11,320 --> 02:41:13,040
Speaker 9: part of what we have to look at in our

2704
02:41:13,080 --> 02:41:14,280
Speaker 9: analysis of current Day.

2705
02:41:14,280 --> 02:41:17,600
Speaker 1: Africa, Gotcha i've got a bunch of folks want to

2706
02:41:17,600 --> 02:41:19,760
Speaker 1: talk to, You PROFESSOR mpm at thirty minutes after the

2707
02:41:19,840 --> 02:41:21,760
Speaker 1: top of our, family we're discussing what's going on In

2708
02:41:22,200 --> 02:41:24,360
Speaker 1: nigeria And northern Night era' to be, exact and also

2709
02:41:24,440 --> 02:41:27,959
Speaker 1: The sudan eight four five zero seventy eight seventy Six

2710
02:41:28,040 --> 02:41:31,600
Speaker 1: allen's callings From San diego's online Four Grand. Rising, Allen

2711
02:41:31,680 --> 02:41:33,279
Speaker 1: you're on with PROFESSOR Mpm.

2712
02:41:34,200 --> 02:41:34,720
Speaker 9: Hi how you?

2713
02:41:34,879 --> 02:41:35,400
Speaker 3: Doing how you?

2714
02:41:35,480 --> 02:41:39,520
Speaker 15: Doing a professor and Mister, nelson, LISTEN i have a

2715
02:41:39,640 --> 02:41:43,720
Speaker 15: comment AND i have a. QUESTION i remember about twenty

2716
02:41:43,800 --> 02:41:47,920
Speaker 15: five years, AGO i heard that around The sudan area

2717
02:41:48,040 --> 02:41:53,480
Speaker 15: they had like an issue with, slavery, okay UNTIL i

2718
02:41:53,640 --> 02:41:57,760
Speaker 15: was watching the show that was ON cnbc with this

2719
02:41:58,000 --> 02:42:03,520
Speaker 15: Is phil Down hill And Volam posner pointing out that

2720
02:42:03,920 --> 02:42:07,600
Speaker 15: the issue wasn't, slavery but it was oil because he,

2721
02:42:07,640 --> 02:42:11,920
Speaker 15: said look at those to Dan is To Saudi. Arabia he,

2722
02:42:12,000 --> 02:42:13,760
Speaker 15: said they're trying to get that. Oil that's what they

2723
02:42:13,920 --> 02:42:16,640
Speaker 15: started trying to. Do and they were so right about.

2724
02:42:16,720 --> 02:42:19,440
Speaker 15: That and another thing, too is that that damn that you.

2725
02:42:19,640 --> 02:42:24,240
Speaker 15: MENTIONED i saw that video about the dam that they,

2726
02:42:24,440 --> 02:42:29,040
Speaker 15: made and that dam is submerging a lot of history

2727
02:42:29,280 --> 02:42:32,840
Speaker 15: of The nubians and now it's hard to get to

2728
02:42:33,000 --> 02:42:37,440
Speaker 15: those those ancient ruins now because of the water that's down.

2729
02:42:37,480 --> 02:42:42,400
Speaker 15: There but also, too and this is the, QUESTION i

2730
02:42:42,520 --> 02:42:46,880
Speaker 15: know this, man he's From West, Africa West african, country

2731
02:42:47,360 --> 02:42:52,560
Speaker 15: and he was showing me a video of them decapitating

2732
02:42:54,040 --> 02:42:58,080
Speaker 15: people From, cameroon and this is about ten twelve years,

2733
02:42:58,080 --> 02:43:02,480
Speaker 15: ago and he was saying that they have. Killed these

2734
02:43:02,520 --> 02:43:05,520
Speaker 15: are other black. People now they were. Killing they killed

2735
02:43:05,520 --> 02:43:10,960
Speaker 15: about about six hundred Thousands Cameroonians uh down there AND

2736
02:43:11,400 --> 02:43:13,120
Speaker 15: uh AND i was, ASKING i, said, well how come

2737
02:43:13,160 --> 02:43:15,920
Speaker 15: you don't show, This, uh there's this video and he

2738
02:43:15,959 --> 02:43:18,600
Speaker 15: said that he will get in, trouble you. Know SO

2739
02:43:19,240 --> 02:43:21,400
Speaker 15: i just want to know if you heard anything about,

2740
02:43:21,480 --> 02:43:24,800
Speaker 15: that and also to that that what you but also

2741
02:43:24,879 --> 02:43:27,200
Speaker 15: to agree with about what's going on In. Sadan But,

2742
02:43:27,480 --> 02:43:30,160
Speaker 15: uh and that come to In. Sadan you have north

2743
02:43:30,400 --> 02:43:34,280
Speaker 15: North North sudan in Southern sadan because The Northern sadan

2744
02:43:34,440 --> 02:43:37,880
Speaker 15: IS uh is taking her that they took over by

2745
02:43:38,000 --> 02:43:41,800
Speaker 15: this Racist arab guy From Saudi. Arabia SO i said

2746
02:43:41,879 --> 02:43:43,879
Speaker 15: back and, listen all.

2747
02:43:43,800 --> 02:43:50,240
Speaker 9: Right Thanks, allen, Professor, okay, YEAH i appreciate uh the.

2748
02:43:50,440 --> 02:43:55,400
Speaker 9: Comments and well In, sudan if we look at if

2749
02:43:55,440 --> 02:44:00,280
Speaker 9: you look At, sudan then, yeah there's definitely all going

2750
02:44:00,320 --> 02:44:03,640
Speaker 9: conflict Between sudan and the newest country that broke, away

2751
02:44:03,760 --> 02:44:06,800
Speaker 9: which Is South. Sudan they broke away and formed their

2752
02:44:06,879 --> 02:44:11,320
Speaker 9: own country in twenty. Eleven there was definitely. Slavery there

2753
02:44:11,400 --> 02:44:14,160
Speaker 9: was definitely slavery that was being denied by some of The.

2754
02:44:14,640 --> 02:44:18,840
Speaker 9: Muslims in our own. Community they were denying the obvious.

2755
02:44:19,000 --> 02:44:22,440
Speaker 9: Reality they were even denying that dams are being. Built

2756
02:44:23,560 --> 02:44:26,320
Speaker 9: AND i have photos and videos WHEN i was, there

2757
02:44:26,440 --> 02:44:29,119
Speaker 9: the document that of course dams are being built and people.

2758
02:44:29,240 --> 02:44:32,440
Speaker 9: Displaced but people were openly lying about that and openly

2759
02:44:32,520 --> 02:44:36,039
Speaker 9: lying about that there was no. Slavery but they were

2760
02:44:37,120 --> 02:44:41,000
Speaker 9: these folks in the Current sudan and they were, enslaving

2761
02:44:41,840 --> 02:44:45,840
Speaker 9: literally Enslaving, africans Killing africans in the four area in the,

2762
02:44:45,920 --> 02:44:50,680
Speaker 9: west and Also africans to the. South about two years,

2763
02:44:50,720 --> 02:44:54,400
Speaker 9: ago for, EXAMPLE i was In South, sudan and because

2764
02:44:54,440 --> 02:44:58,040
Speaker 9: of my field work on ancient kush and the modern

2765
02:44:58,200 --> 02:45:02,560
Speaker 9: groups that still practiced the Ancient cushitic rituals and ceremonies

2766
02:45:02,920 --> 02:45:08,880
Speaker 9: and cultural, LIFEWAYS i met with eleven, chiefs Eleven dinka.

2767
02:45:09,000 --> 02:45:14,480
Speaker 9: Chiefs and WHEN i met with these chiefs In, jubi

2768
02:45:14,560 --> 02:45:17,280
Speaker 9: the capitalist was. Historic no one had ever gathered together

2769
02:45:17,360 --> 02:45:22,360
Speaker 9: that many legitimate, chiefs and so we. Met and one

2770
02:45:22,400 --> 02:45:27,480
Speaker 9: of the things that these chiefs, said which WERE i

2771
02:45:27,600 --> 02:45:29,480
Speaker 9: was trying to feel why were they saying, This but

2772
02:45:29,720 --> 02:45:32,520
Speaker 9: one of the things that they emphasized is that we're

2773
02:45:32,600 --> 02:45:36,160
Speaker 9: not just. Slaves and a couple of the chiefs had mentioned,

2774
02:45:36,200 --> 02:45:40,120
Speaker 9: this and THEN i. Recognized THEN i, remember, okay, well

2775
02:45:40,480 --> 02:45:43,120
Speaker 9: they're talking about the old, days and people still see The,

2776
02:45:43,200 --> 02:45:45,520
Speaker 9: dinka who as a group are the tallest people in the,

2777
02:45:45,600 --> 02:45:48,360
Speaker 9: world they still see them as nothing but slaves or

2778
02:45:48,400 --> 02:45:52,720
Speaker 9: descendants of. Slaves because slavery was as a big issue

2779
02:45:53,080 --> 02:45:57,160
Speaker 9: in student up until around two thousand and. FIVE i

2780
02:45:57,280 --> 02:46:00,160
Speaker 9: told the transporter would tell the chiefs THAT i hear.

2781
02:46:00,240 --> 02:46:02,880
Speaker 9: Them in, fact we black folks in THE us are

2782
02:46:02,959 --> 02:46:06,040
Speaker 9: not simply descendants of. SLAVES i respect the, ancestors but

2783
02:46:06,480 --> 02:46:09,520
Speaker 9: you can't start your history in slavery because as the

2784
02:46:09,600 --> 02:46:12,240
Speaker 9: Great kwameteruria would always tell, us if you start your

2785
02:46:12,360 --> 02:46:14,240
Speaker 9: history as, slavery the best you can be is a good.

2786
02:46:14,320 --> 02:46:17,119
Speaker 9: Slave SO i told the trance to tell the chiefs

2787
02:46:17,160 --> 02:46:19,440
Speaker 9: that we're not just slaves in THE us. Either so

2788
02:46:19,600 --> 02:46:22,320
Speaker 9: we have that in, common that our history or, culture

2789
02:46:22,920 --> 02:46:24,440
Speaker 9: our value is much larger than.

2790
02:46:24,480 --> 02:46:25,400
Speaker 3: That so we have that in.

2791
02:46:25,520 --> 02:46:29,960
Speaker 9: Common but some groups were certainly denying slavery In sudan

2792
02:46:30,120 --> 02:46:32,440
Speaker 9: because of the fact that they were the ones who

2793
02:46:32,480 --> 02:46:35,960
Speaker 9: were either Protecting, islam which is, absurd or the. Beneficiaries

2794
02:46:35,959 --> 02:46:39,160
Speaker 9: and there's many, videos there's many, people many groups that

2795
02:46:39,240 --> 02:46:43,240
Speaker 9: actually went in To sudan to quote unquote buy and

2796
02:46:43,440 --> 02:46:47,680
Speaker 9: Enslaved africans in order to document exactly how they're treated

2797
02:46:47,760 --> 02:46:50,800
Speaker 9: and how they are in fact in slave victims to.

2798
02:46:50,920 --> 02:46:54,440
Speaker 9: Show so this was pretty well. Documented but, anyway but

2799
02:46:54,520 --> 02:46:56,600
Speaker 9: that's How africans looked at, it and they still looked

2800
02:46:56,600 --> 02:47:01,240
Speaker 9: at like that today By eric foreigners who were really

2801
02:47:01,440 --> 02:47:06,240
Speaker 9: called them blue black or. Zurga it's totally, disrespectful but

2802
02:47:06,440 --> 02:47:09,720
Speaker 9: this is how they present. Them And i'm SAY i

2803
02:47:09,800 --> 02:47:12,119
Speaker 9: lost another part of your. Point but the bottom line

2804
02:47:12,200 --> 02:47:15,400
Speaker 9: is that we should look into this and certainly in

2805
02:47:15,520 --> 02:47:18,840
Speaker 9: different parts of the. Continent you can find problems In

2806
02:47:19,000 --> 02:47:22,040
Speaker 9: cameroons in other. Areas, Yes i'm not surprised because in

2807
02:47:22,120 --> 02:47:26,360
Speaker 9: The French west Area West africa, area a lot of

2808
02:47:26,400 --> 02:47:29,760
Speaker 9: brutality took. Place The french were brutal when they Created

2809
02:47:29,800 --> 02:47:34,800
Speaker 9: French West africa after this Infamous berlin conference in eighteen

2810
02:47:34,840 --> 02:47:36,640
Speaker 9: eighty four eighteen eighty. Five so a lot of The

2811
02:47:36,720 --> 02:47:41,760
Speaker 9: french areas you see atrocities That french helped. Create and

2812
02:47:41,879 --> 02:47:44,200
Speaker 9: this is why you Have Berquino faso in other Countries

2813
02:47:44,360 --> 02:47:47,680
Speaker 9: Beijir mali that are rising up in that same region

2814
02:47:47,800 --> 02:47:51,039
Speaker 9: to kick out The french foreigners And french, Troup french

2815
02:47:51,160 --> 02:47:55,080
Speaker 9: interests in order to get back to a stable environment

2816
02:47:55,160 --> 02:47:58,320
Speaker 9: and get back To africa of the past when we

2817
02:47:58,400 --> 02:48:01,280
Speaker 9: were at the apex of. Humanity SO i would never

2818
02:48:01,360 --> 02:48:03,880
Speaker 9: be surprised at any of these kind of atrocities with

2819
02:48:04,640 --> 02:48:09,760
Speaker 9: the different factors that we've been discussing outside economic, influence religious,

2820
02:48:09,800 --> 02:48:13,920
Speaker 9: influence and foreign interests coming in causing outrageous. Chaos and

2821
02:48:14,000 --> 02:48:17,160
Speaker 9: you Got africans that have lost their their, mind as

2822
02:48:17,280 --> 02:48:20,280
Speaker 9: they are no different than any other slaughterers or. Killers

2823
02:48:20,879 --> 02:48:24,200
Speaker 9: they just happened, to you, know to have black skin and,

2824
02:48:24,280 --> 02:48:28,199
Speaker 9: africanheritance but the mentality is not any. DIFFERENT i would

2825
02:48:28,280 --> 02:48:33,280
Speaker 9: say THIS i have heard in the remote areas In

2826
02:48:33,360 --> 02:48:35,600
Speaker 9: ethiopia WHEN i go to these areas like among The,

2827
02:48:35,720 --> 02:48:39,160
Speaker 9: console for, example in The Oma valley, region one of

2828
02:48:39,240 --> 02:48:41,640
Speaker 9: the guys was telling me when he was really, young Brother.

2829
02:48:42,040 --> 02:48:44,760
Speaker 9: Danote he's passed, now but Brother danote a few years

2830
02:48:44,800 --> 02:48:47,160
Speaker 9: ago was telling me that he was young he had

2831
02:48:47,320 --> 02:48:49,320
Speaker 9: Heard oh, no, sorry he didn't.

2832
02:48:49,320 --> 02:48:49,520
Speaker 6: Hear he.

2833
02:48:49,640 --> 02:48:51,000
Speaker 9: Saw he actually saw.

2834
02:48:51,520 --> 02:48:53,120
Speaker 3: That it was.

2835
02:48:53,280 --> 02:48:56,560
Speaker 9: Said there was no. Court it was said that some

2836
02:48:57,440 --> 02:49:01,560
Speaker 9: one of the guys in The console village had assaulted

2837
02:49:01,600 --> 02:49:06,160
Speaker 9: a woman and he was buried, alive so so you

2838
02:49:06,320 --> 02:49:08,480
Speaker 9: do have justice in that. Way in, fact The dinker

2839
02:49:08,560 --> 02:49:12,120
Speaker 9: chiefs told me very directly in various situations that they

2840
02:49:12,120 --> 02:49:15,120
Speaker 9: don't play that if someone wants to violate their traditional,

2841
02:49:15,200 --> 02:49:18,640
Speaker 9: ways then they will be. Killed and that's the bottom.

2842
02:49:18,720 --> 02:49:22,080
Speaker 9: Line so you, know what was the context of this

2843
02:49:22,280 --> 02:49:24,120
Speaker 9: is WHAT i would be. Asking but it's not the

2844
02:49:24,240 --> 02:49:27,000
Speaker 9: doubt that it didn't. Happen but, sometimes you, know you

2845
02:49:27,080 --> 02:49:29,160
Speaker 9: have to protect your. Community and The dinker, said you

2846
02:49:29,200 --> 02:49:33,480
Speaker 9: know what if some young man comes in and violates

2847
02:49:33,600 --> 02:49:36,200
Speaker 9: the ethics and morality and values and want to have

2848
02:49:36,720 --> 02:49:39,600
Speaker 9: secret relations with secret relations with the young girl by

2849
02:49:39,600 --> 02:49:42,760
Speaker 9: sneaking into the village and sneaking into the, compound If

2850
02:49:42,840 --> 02:49:46,200
Speaker 9: cokey will be. Killed. Period that's. It that's the end

2851
02:49:46,280 --> 02:49:46,480
Speaker 9: of it.

2852
02:49:48,080 --> 02:49:48,200
Speaker 3: Right.

2853
02:49:48,240 --> 02:49:50,199
Speaker 1: There professor got to step aside for a few moments

2854
02:49:50,800 --> 02:49:52,320
Speaker 1: to finish your. Thought when you come, back still got

2855
02:49:52,320 --> 02:49:54,000
Speaker 1: a bunch of folks got questions for, you so you

2856
02:49:54,040 --> 02:49:55,880
Speaker 1: can shut up on the answers THAT i appreciate. It,

2857
02:49:56,240 --> 02:49:58,240
Speaker 1: family you two can get in on this discussion With

2858
02:49:58,280 --> 02:50:00,560
Speaker 1: professor Man In pim discussed and what's going on In

2859
02:50:00,680 --> 02:50:04,000
Speaker 1: sudan and Also, niger what are your thoughts eight hundred

2860
02:50:04,040 --> 02:50:06,720
Speaker 1: four or five zero seventy eight seventy. Six we'll get

2861
02:50:06,760 --> 02:50:09,960
Speaker 1: you in and we'll take your calls next And Grand rising,

2862
02:50:10,040 --> 02:50:12,080
Speaker 1: family thanks for staying with us all morning long here

2863
02:50:12,160 --> 02:50:15,760
Speaker 1: or the first, morning First monday morning Of. NOVEMBER i

2864
02:50:15,840 --> 02:50:18,680
Speaker 1: guess It's professor May new mpin the teachers At, contracost

2865
02:50:18,720 --> 02:50:21,680
Speaker 1: the college out In. California Professor mpinn was a scholar

2866
02:50:21,760 --> 02:50:24,000
Speaker 1: who decoded The willi lynch let and found out that

2867
02:50:24,040 --> 02:50:25,840
Speaker 1: he was a. Fraud before we go back to, now

2868
02:50:25,920 --> 02:50:27,560
Speaker 1: let me just remind. You coming up later this week

2869
02:50:27,560 --> 02:50:30,040
Speaker 1: you go and to hear from Chematologist Tony. Browner also

2870
02:50:30,160 --> 02:50:33,760
Speaker 1: holistic Healer Queen aful will be here and civil rights

2871
02:50:33,840 --> 02:50:35,840
Speaker 1: activist Doctor Paul smith and join us as. Well so

2872
02:50:35,920 --> 02:50:38,000
Speaker 1: if you are In, baltimore keep you radio locked in

2873
02:50:38,080 --> 02:50:41,400
Speaker 1: tight on ten TEN. Wlb if you're in THE dmv

2874
02:50:41,560 --> 02:50:44,320
Speaker 1: run fourteen FIFTY. Wl all, right, Professor we've got some

2875
02:50:44,560 --> 02:50:46,200
Speaker 1: more folks want to talk to. You let's go to line.

2876
02:50:46,240 --> 02:50:49,280
Speaker 1: Too Kevin bob's waiting for, us calling From Buffalo. Bobby

2877
02:50:49,440 --> 02:50:51,400
Speaker 1: question or your comment From professor Am Pint.

2878
02:50:52,080 --> 02:50:55,160
Speaker 10: Yes, sir blessed love. FAMILY i love the theme of

2879
02:50:55,280 --> 02:50:58,440
Speaker 10: this station where information is, power AND i love the

2880
02:50:58,600 --> 02:51:01,640
Speaker 10: doctor who shares information with this UH i like.

2881
02:51:01,680 --> 02:51:02,440
Speaker 3: It AXT a couple of.

2882
02:51:02,480 --> 02:51:05,480
Speaker 10: Things, one how you talk about Regional how is the

2883
02:51:06,720 --> 02:51:10,160
Speaker 10: battle difficulty In sudan Affecting South?

2884
02:51:10,240 --> 02:51:11,320
Speaker 3: Sudan and in.

2885
02:51:11,440 --> 02:51:15,440
Speaker 10: Terms of information is the term that we use quite

2886
02:51:15,520 --> 02:51:19,560
Speaker 10: often Anti? Semitic can you talk about? Who what Anti semitic?

2887
02:51:19,720 --> 02:51:22,760
Speaker 10: Is who are The semitic? People and the last one

2888
02:51:23,160 --> 02:51:26,760
Speaker 10: is we talk About Pan africanism and most people think

2889
02:51:26,800 --> 02:51:29,800
Speaker 10: of that as the continent Of. Africa should we think

2890
02:51:29,840 --> 02:51:33,840
Speaker 10: of ourselves more as a Global african people who are.

2891
02:51:33,840 --> 02:51:34,440
Speaker 3: All over this?

2892
02:51:34,600 --> 02:51:40,120
Speaker 9: World, okay thank you, BROTHER i appreciate it. Well the

2893
02:51:40,440 --> 02:51:44,320
Speaker 9: first is that the conflict In sudan is not really

2894
02:51:44,600 --> 02:51:48,720
Speaker 9: Affecting South. Sudan South sudan has his own problems With

2895
02:51:48,800 --> 02:51:52,320
Speaker 9: dinka and. Thewar the two largest group In South groups

2896
02:51:52,360 --> 02:51:57,440
Speaker 9: And South. Sudan you, know they're they're distant, cousins but

2897
02:51:57,640 --> 02:52:01,680
Speaker 9: they've had ongoing different is in conflict even though they're.

2898
02:52:01,760 --> 02:52:05,000
Speaker 9: Related but what's happening In South sudani is really not

2899
02:52:05,120 --> 02:52:09,160
Speaker 9: affected by what's happening In. Sudan keep in mind And

2900
02:52:09,200 --> 02:52:13,000
Speaker 9: South sudan broke away From sudan and and those relations

2901
02:52:14,720 --> 02:52:17,600
Speaker 9: haven't really. JAILED i mean there's been overthrowed The sudanese

2902
02:52:17,680 --> 02:52:21,720
Speaker 9: government and and so, anyway but it doesn't directly affect

2903
02:52:21,760 --> 02:52:26,280
Speaker 9: it at. All this term Anti semitic is. PROPAGANDA i,

2904
02:52:26,360 --> 02:52:28,920
Speaker 9: mean The arabs Are, semitics so how can they be

2905
02:52:29,160 --> 02:52:33,520
Speaker 9: how can they be Anti? Semitic you, know The semites

2906
02:52:33,520 --> 02:52:35,959
Speaker 9: are supposed to be a group that's kind of. Mixed,

2907
02:52:36,360 --> 02:52:39,600
Speaker 9: really it means a mixed group mixed mainly Between african And.

2908
02:52:39,720 --> 02:52:42,680
Speaker 9: European they're in What Sei Kanta diaz would call a

2909
02:52:42,840 --> 02:52:47,320
Speaker 9: zone of, confluence where there's a mixture of culture and.

2910
02:52:47,560 --> 02:52:50,840
Speaker 9: People but this Anti, semitic as you probably, know is

2911
02:52:50,959 --> 02:52:54,440
Speaker 9: just raised all the time so that nobody can criticize

2912
02:52:54,480 --> 02:52:57,840
Speaker 9: The zionists In israel come in to kill people and

2913
02:52:57,920 --> 02:53:00,960
Speaker 9: take their. Land plus they're not the ancient people there.

2914
02:53:01,000 --> 02:53:04,920
Speaker 9: Anyway these people have come in long after the culture

2915
02:53:04,959 --> 02:53:08,120
Speaker 9: and the region has been. Established so it's just propaganda

2916
02:53:08,160 --> 02:53:10,959
Speaker 9: to say at, least, yes of, course we're global. People

2917
02:53:11,879 --> 02:53:15,760
Speaker 9: it's difficult on The african continent because you have groups

2918
02:53:15,800 --> 02:53:18,400
Speaker 9: that are link to their own group and they don't

2919
02:53:18,520 --> 02:53:21,200
Speaker 9: see regional unity too. Often so when we look at

2920
02:53:21,240 --> 02:53:24,640
Speaker 9: the alliance Of Sihl states With mali this year And Bekinna,

2921
02:53:24,720 --> 02:53:29,840
Speaker 9: farsoul this was a great. Model but generally in these

2922
02:53:29,959 --> 02:53:33,600
Speaker 9: different countries there are, differences and these differences keeps groups.

2923
02:53:34,040 --> 02:53:36,760
Speaker 9: DIVIDED i see it all the. Time In. Ethiopia there's

2924
02:53:36,879 --> 02:53:39,520
Speaker 9: conflict that you may not even know. About but When

2925
02:53:39,520 --> 02:53:43,680
Speaker 9: i'm traveling in certain areas THAT i can't go, to

2926
02:53:44,480 --> 02:53:46,240
Speaker 9: OR i certainly can't take the group even IF i,

2927
02:53:46,360 --> 02:53:49,080
Speaker 9: went because these are conflict, areas AND i know some

2928
02:53:49,200 --> 02:53:52,240
Speaker 9: of the people involved in these. Areas and this is

2929
02:53:52,360 --> 02:53:57,240
Speaker 9: not just, religious it's ethnic differences In ethiopia and in

2930
02:53:57,360 --> 02:53:59,640
Speaker 9: other places THAT i Mentioned South, sudance these are things

2931
02:53:59,680 --> 02:54:00,840
Speaker 9: that we should be aware.

2932
02:54:00,640 --> 02:54:00,720
Speaker 5: Of.

2933
02:54:02,560 --> 02:54:02,680
Speaker 6: All.

2934
02:54:02,800 --> 02:54:06,200
Speaker 4: Right and they talked About Pan. Africanism did you cover, That,

2935
02:54:07,040 --> 02:54:07,920
Speaker 4: oh you.

2936
02:54:07,920 --> 02:54:12,199
Speaker 9: Know certainly that that should be that should be no. Negotiable,

2937
02:54:12,520 --> 02:54:16,360
Speaker 9: yeah that should be non negotiable Pan africanism, worldwide for.

2938
02:54:16,480 --> 02:54:20,600
Speaker 9: Sure we always talk About garvey And. Garbyism we look

2939
02:54:20,680 --> 02:54:24,560
Speaker 9: at the growth Of Pan, africanism whether it's the voice

2940
02:54:24,720 --> 02:54:28,440
Speaker 9: or the re emergence Of Pan africanism in the sixties and.

2941
02:54:28,640 --> 02:54:31,160
Speaker 9: Seventies so we have to keep that in the forefront as,

2942
02:54:31,200 --> 02:54:34,840
Speaker 9: well to say the, least because what affects one of

2943
02:54:34,959 --> 02:54:38,680
Speaker 9: us affects all of. Us So Pan africanism should be

2944
02:54:39,480 --> 02:54:41,720
Speaker 9: the main focus of any of us who are concerned

2945
02:54:41,760 --> 02:54:44,879
Speaker 9: about our, welfare whether it's here in THE, us The african,

2946
02:54:44,959 --> 02:54:48,920
Speaker 9: continent or anywhere. Else so this is a fundamental ideological

2947
02:54:48,959 --> 02:54:51,880
Speaker 9: position that people should take if they want to Bring

2948
02:54:52,000 --> 02:54:55,160
Speaker 9: africa And african people together back together and help us

2949
02:54:55,280 --> 02:54:58,120
Speaker 9: rise up to the apex position that we were in

2950
02:54:58,920 --> 02:55:02,160
Speaker 9: in the past when we were making a major impact

2951
02:55:02,640 --> 02:55:04,720
Speaker 9: to bring the world to a whole other level of.

2952
02:55:04,840 --> 02:55:07,160
Speaker 9: Development ah say.

2953
02:55:07,160 --> 02:55:09,280
Speaker 1: That thirteen away from the top, Day let's go To

2954
02:55:09,320 --> 02:55:12,480
Speaker 1: baltimore at les on line. Three Grant, Rising, lee you're

2955
02:55:12,520 --> 02:55:13,680
Speaker 1: on with professor am.

2956
02:55:13,560 --> 02:55:17,840
Speaker 16: Pim grand rising to both of, you and thank you so,

2957
02:55:18,000 --> 02:55:21,960
Speaker 16: much professor for all that you have been saying in

2958
02:55:22,120 --> 02:55:27,080
Speaker 16: reference to The. JUAJUIN i know you shared earlier your

2959
02:55:27,200 --> 02:55:30,880
Speaker 16: thoughts that the, weapons the high tech weapons that The

2960
02:55:31,040 --> 02:55:36,040
Speaker 16: arabs are supplying The juajuins are coming Through, china even

2961
02:55:36,120 --> 02:55:40,280
Speaker 16: Though china is there in all different areas as, humanitarians

2962
02:55:40,520 --> 02:55:44,160
Speaker 16: they have ulterior motive because they want. Resources and then

2963
02:55:44,280 --> 02:55:47,039
Speaker 16: my thought, too is all of this is coming into play.

2964
02:55:47,120 --> 02:55:50,160
Speaker 16: Now it might sound fast, etched but do you think

2965
02:55:50,240 --> 02:55:53,200
Speaker 16: this is setting up so that people that are watching

2966
02:55:53,280 --> 02:55:57,280
Speaker 16: ON tv seeing blacks against blacks killing each, other so

2967
02:55:57,440 --> 02:56:01,320
Speaker 16: that now we can have justification the administration here in

2968
02:56:01,320 --> 02:56:04,320
Speaker 16: The United states to make sure we put down any

2969
02:56:04,480 --> 02:56:07,960
Speaker 16: unrest that black people might try to, do because look

2970
02:56:08,120 --> 02:56:10,320
Speaker 16: what they did In, Africa we're not gonna have it.

2971
02:56:10,400 --> 02:56:12,920
Speaker 16: Here so now they can control us as a people

2972
02:56:13,200 --> 02:56:16,640
Speaker 16: because it has been stated that the administration wants to

2973
02:56:16,680 --> 02:56:19,680
Speaker 16: put at least five hundred troops in each state to

2974
02:56:19,800 --> 02:56:23,840
Speaker 16: put down any. Unrest AND i just the last thought

2975
02:56:24,120 --> 02:56:27,800
Speaker 16: IS i wish we as a people have leveraged like

2976
02:56:29,680 --> 02:56:36,160
Speaker 16: what is It Vanguard, State Street, Rocks, blackstone that we

2977
02:56:36,280 --> 02:56:38,920
Speaker 16: could come in to help our brothers and sisters In,

2978
02:56:39,000 --> 02:56:42,760
Speaker 16: africa because, yes knowledge is, powerful but now how can

2979
02:56:42,840 --> 02:56:46,360
Speaker 16: we apply the knowledge to help our brothers and sister

2980
02:56:46,600 --> 02:56:50,680
Speaker 16: Like Abraham tarre is doing In it became no. Fossil

2981
02:56:51,080 --> 02:56:53,360
Speaker 16: BUT i just want to thank you and your thoughts

2982
02:56:53,480 --> 02:56:55,520
Speaker 16: please That i'm SORRY i rambled all over the.

2983
02:56:55,600 --> 02:57:02,000
Speaker 9: PLACE i appreciate the. Comments, well you, know In, sudan

2984
02:57:03,000 --> 02:57:05,680
Speaker 9: The chinese are, there there's no question The chinese are.

2985
02:57:05,720 --> 02:57:08,440
Speaker 9: There it's not all, bad it's, good but it's certainly

2986
02:57:08,520 --> 02:57:10,840
Speaker 9: some bad as. Well the problem with The chinese did

2987
02:57:10,879 --> 02:57:18,359
Speaker 9: they come in with help with projects of, development whether it's, roads, bridges.

2988
02:57:18,760 --> 02:57:21,360
Speaker 9: Dams the problem is that they don't have any moral.

2989
02:57:21,560 --> 02:57:25,520
Speaker 9: Compass they will invest in any project regardless of the

2990
02:57:25,640 --> 02:57:28,720
Speaker 9: damage they may call to the local. People for, example In,

2991
02:57:28,920 --> 02:57:33,080
Speaker 9: sudan in The Third cataract area in the northern part Of,

2992
02:57:33,160 --> 02:57:37,720
Speaker 9: sudan near the Cash bar area WHERE i spent, time

2993
02:57:38,480 --> 02:57:42,959
Speaker 9: The chinese were working with The sudanese, government and when

2994
02:57:43,040 --> 02:57:45,480
Speaker 9: they were working with The sudanese, government the goal was

2995
02:57:45,600 --> 02:57:49,080
Speaker 9: to clear out the area to make to build the

2996
02:57:49,480 --> 02:57:53,600
Speaker 9: Cash bar. Dam AND i just AND i learned being

2997
02:57:53,760 --> 02:57:57,240
Speaker 9: there that The chinese working with The sudanese government had

2998
02:57:57,320 --> 02:58:02,199
Speaker 9: dug up one hundred and sixty one One nubian, ancestors

2999
02:58:02,400 --> 02:58:05,960
Speaker 9: just dug them, up desecrated a burial area so that

3000
02:58:06,080 --> 02:58:10,040
Speaker 9: they could make room to build the. Dam so that's the,

3001
02:58:10,160 --> 02:58:13,320
Speaker 9: problem is that they're in there for a construction project

3002
02:58:13,360 --> 02:58:17,480
Speaker 9: with no moral. Compass The, chinese, however on the other,

3003
02:58:17,600 --> 02:58:21,600
Speaker 9: hand there's some things that they've done that are APPLAUDIBLE

3004
02:58:22,120 --> 02:58:25,120
Speaker 9: i mean to build a road that links towns or,

3005
02:58:25,200 --> 02:58:28,640
Speaker 9: cities or rather than a five hour, journey it's only

3006
02:58:28,720 --> 02:58:31,080
Speaker 9: an hour and a. Half that makes a. Difference The

3007
02:58:31,200 --> 02:58:34,800
Speaker 9: chinese are not trying to Tell african governments how they

3008
02:58:34,840 --> 02:58:38,240
Speaker 9: should organize their, government how they should organize their. Economy

3009
02:58:38,280 --> 02:58:41,120
Speaker 9: they're not doing, that but they are benefiting in terms

3010
02:58:41,160 --> 02:58:45,279
Speaker 9: of giving the loans and bringing construction companies and workers.

3011
02:58:45,360 --> 02:58:50,440
Speaker 9: In The chinese correctly point out that The, west that

3012
02:58:50,560 --> 02:58:54,360
Speaker 9: THE us government has some nerve to Criticize china when

3013
02:58:54,360 --> 02:58:57,880
Speaker 9: THE us goes in under The International Monetary fund or THE.

3014
02:58:58,040 --> 02:59:01,160
Speaker 9: Imf and by the, way the boys on the corner

3015
02:59:01,200 --> 02:59:05,200
Speaker 9: would have a different name for WHAT mf. Means but

3016
02:59:05,280 --> 02:59:07,920
Speaker 9: THE imf and The World bank come, in they won't

3017
02:59:07,959 --> 02:59:11,400
Speaker 9: give alan until they read direct reorganize the, economy and

3018
02:59:11,560 --> 02:59:14,120
Speaker 9: dictate what happens in the. Country The chinese are not doing.

3019
02:59:14,240 --> 02:59:16,320
Speaker 9: That so it was actually he was good and bad,

3020
02:59:16,360 --> 02:59:19,680
Speaker 9: There but AND i see what The chinese are, doing

3021
02:59:20,160 --> 02:59:22,040
Speaker 9: and a lot of bad, things but some things that

3022
02:59:22,160 --> 02:59:24,160
Speaker 9: are good because The africans need their, help and a

3023
02:59:24,200 --> 02:59:26,600
Speaker 9: lot of The african foreign ministers and leaders are not all.

3024
02:59:26,680 --> 02:59:31,439
Speaker 9: Puppets these are very sharp, individuals and they are agents

3025
02:59:31,680 --> 02:59:33,920
Speaker 9: of the kind of outside help they need as long

3026
02:59:33,920 --> 02:59:37,320
Speaker 9: as they're in. Control but in terms Of, sudan The

3027
02:59:37,440 --> 02:59:43,040
Speaker 9: United arab immigrants are shipping weapons of destruction directly to

3028
02:59:43,680 --> 02:59:46,400
Speaker 9: the western part Of. Sudan so it's not going Through

3029
02:59:46,640 --> 02:59:50,120
Speaker 9: china or any other. Place it's direct shipments of killing

3030
02:59:50,200 --> 02:59:53,280
Speaker 9: and murder because they know they can extract the. Gold

3031
02:59:53,840 --> 02:59:57,600
Speaker 9: so that's what's that's what's happening. There and so, anyway

3032
02:59:57,760 --> 02:59:59,480
Speaker 9: so thank you for your. COMMENTS i just wanted to

3033
02:59:59,520 --> 03:00:01,200
Speaker 9: mention though those important items as.

3034
03:00:01,240 --> 03:00:03,880
Speaker 1: Well all, right d away from the top of Our

3035
03:00:03,920 --> 03:00:06,440
Speaker 1: Brother colus is. Next he's calling From. Waldorf he's. Online

3036
03:00:06,520 --> 03:00:11,320
Speaker 1: five grand Rising Brother, Colus PROFESSOR mpm Rising.

3037
03:00:12,080 --> 03:00:15,640
Speaker 17: Colin and and my dear, Professor i'll make this real.

3038
03:00:15,800 --> 03:00:20,080
Speaker 17: Quick uh. Uh the religion has been used as they

3039
03:00:20,200 --> 03:00:26,440
Speaker 17: two by four against us throughout the, centuries Uh John

3040
03:00:26,520 --> 03:00:31,280
Speaker 17: Henry clark and. Uh but the other, professor one of

3041
03:00:31,320 --> 03:00:34,240
Speaker 17: the other, professors says that it has been used as

3042
03:00:34,280 --> 03:00:36,960
Speaker 17: a as a. Glorification religion has been used as a

3043
03:00:37,040 --> 03:00:44,119
Speaker 17: glorification or deification for people's cultural values and uh their political.

3044
03:00:44,240 --> 03:00:48,120
Speaker 17: Intent and SO i want one of you to expound on.

3045
03:00:48,200 --> 03:00:51,040
Speaker 17: That and also the second part real quickly would be

3046
03:00:52,040 --> 03:00:56,560
Speaker 17: this so called lost tribes Of. Israel Uh i've read

3047
03:00:56,640 --> 03:01:00,320
Speaker 17: books that they are in fact In africa as, such

3048
03:01:01,640 --> 03:01:04,120
Speaker 17: deep In. Africa so could you expound on, that And

3049
03:01:04,480 --> 03:01:06,560
Speaker 17: i'll take Myself, aaron thank you very.

3050
03:01:06,680 --> 03:01:11,800
Speaker 9: Much we thank, you Brother, carls appreciate it. Well really, briefly,

3051
03:01:11,879 --> 03:01:15,360
Speaker 9: Yes so religion has been used as a two by

3052
03:01:15,440 --> 03:01:18,560
Speaker 9: four Against. Africas there's no question whatsoever this continues to

3053
03:01:18,640 --> 03:01:22,280
Speaker 9: be an. Issue doctor the, great great Doctor John Henry

3054
03:01:22,360 --> 03:01:25,160
Speaker 9: cark is totally correct that religion is the deification of a.

3055
03:01:25,240 --> 03:01:28,880
Speaker 9: Culture this is why In islam a lot of The

3056
03:01:28,959 --> 03:01:31,880
Speaker 9: africans are against their own cultural traditions because this is

3057
03:01:31,920 --> 03:01:35,480
Speaker 9: what they're, taught that anything that is Pre muhammad is

3058
03:01:35,640 --> 03:01:40,640
Speaker 9: not only, insignificant but this it should be. Dismissed so

3059
03:01:40,760 --> 03:01:43,640
Speaker 9: people dismiss their own history and. Heritage and we've had

3060
03:01:43,720 --> 03:01:46,920
Speaker 9: places like In mali with The Great Timbuck two. Manuscripts

3061
03:01:47,160 --> 03:01:49,320
Speaker 9: you have these mad men going in to destroy and

3062
03:01:49,520 --> 03:01:52,360
Speaker 9: burn anything that they don't. Understand most of them are,

3063
03:01:52,400 --> 03:01:56,040
Speaker 9: illiterate they don't, read and so they're using their religious

3064
03:01:56,040 --> 03:01:59,480
Speaker 9: ideology to destroy their own cultural. Traditions so we found

3065
03:02:00,080 --> 03:02:05,320
Speaker 9: that that is, uh that's a regular ongoing issue because

3066
03:02:05,360 --> 03:02:08,560
Speaker 9: it's you, know it is about the dentification of a particular.

3067
03:02:08,600 --> 03:02:11,680
Speaker 9: Culture so people can Speak arabic Practice islam and they

3068
03:02:11,680 --> 03:02:13,879
Speaker 9: didn't have to and didn't go To mecca every. Year

3069
03:02:13,920 --> 03:02:16,360
Speaker 9: what about the holy sites in their own? Land so

3070
03:02:16,480 --> 03:02:19,040
Speaker 9: we should look at this and it's It's christians doing

3071
03:02:19,080 --> 03:02:21,200
Speaker 9: the same thing As muslims doing. That that's why they

3072
03:02:21,320 --> 03:02:24,240
Speaker 9: fight everywhere in the. World and this is not a

3073
03:02:24,320 --> 03:02:26,800
Speaker 9: part Of african traditional. Culture but this is what we're

3074
03:02:27,240 --> 03:02:29,200
Speaker 9: stuck with. Today so we do have to look at

3075
03:02:29,240 --> 03:02:34,120
Speaker 9: these political and economic and religious dynamics because they certainly

3076
03:02:34,200 --> 03:02:37,840
Speaker 9: Have africa And african people. Divided so but thank you

3077
03:02:37,920 --> 03:02:39,680
Speaker 9: for those. Comments brother All.

3078
03:02:39,640 --> 03:02:42,160
Speaker 1: Right sticks away from The top tweeted into the. STUDIO

3079
03:02:42,200 --> 03:02:44,160
Speaker 1: i want to, know Is africa the reason Why trump

3080
03:02:44,240 --> 03:02:47,360
Speaker 1: is removing the top black, brass the top military man

3081
03:02:47,440 --> 03:02:49,160
Speaker 1: from or is it something?

3082
03:02:49,200 --> 03:02:53,920
Speaker 9: Else i'm not, sure but BUT i know this is.

3083
03:02:54,000 --> 03:02:59,000
Speaker 9: That WHAT i would add to the analysis Is trump

3084
03:02:59,360 --> 03:03:03,360
Speaker 9: is no different than Genocide Joe. Biden there's never a

3085
03:03:03,520 --> 03:03:06,720
Speaker 9: war That biden and The democrats don't like or. Love

3086
03:03:07,000 --> 03:03:12,040
Speaker 9: they'll kill civilians in a minute if they can help will.

3087
03:03:12,240 --> 03:03:15,560
Speaker 9: Power So i'm not familiar with all of what this

3088
03:03:16,240 --> 03:03:19,400
Speaker 9: mad man is doing, today but certainly he's not isolated at.

3089
03:03:19,400 --> 03:03:23,480
Speaker 9: All america Deserves trump and so he's not an aberration

3090
03:03:23,600 --> 03:03:26,960
Speaker 9: in any. Way you look at Genocide joe and his

3091
03:03:27,200 --> 03:03:32,240
Speaker 9: career of warmongering and killing innocent victims around the. World

3092
03:03:32,480 --> 03:03:34,440
Speaker 9: but this is. Tradition as a matter of. Fact let's

3093
03:03:34,440 --> 03:03:39,560
Speaker 9: take a look at The congo and you look and

3094
03:03:39,680 --> 03:03:43,080
Speaker 9: see how THE us has destabilized The, congo which is

3095
03:03:43,120 --> 03:03:47,000
Speaker 9: another area in conflict now as. Well patrice La, mumba

3096
03:03:47,440 --> 03:03:50,560
Speaker 9: why was he assassinated in nineteen sixty. One, oh he

3097
03:03:50,680 --> 03:03:55,880
Speaker 9: was assassinated just Before kennedy took. Office THE us gave

3098
03:03:56,040 --> 03:03:58,560
Speaker 9: the hit that, look we don't want this conflict In

3099
03:03:58,680 --> 03:04:04,400
Speaker 9: sudan to spill over to The kennedy. Administration so he's, assassinated,

3100
03:04:04,760 --> 03:04:11,200
Speaker 9: uh the great Leader lumumba just, before just weeks Before

3101
03:04:11,560 --> 03:04:14,800
Speaker 9: kennedy took. Office and so THE us has always been

3102
03:04:14,879 --> 03:04:20,360
Speaker 9: involved regardless of the. Administration Democrat, republican doesn't make any.

3103
03:04:20,400 --> 03:04:23,920
Speaker 9: Difference it's the same agenda to wield influence in the

3104
03:04:24,000 --> 03:04:27,240
Speaker 9: world and steal resources and kill off whoever doesn't.

3105
03:04:27,040 --> 03:04:30,520
Speaker 1: Like it all, right they stay on code Quickly, Nick

3106
03:04:30,640 --> 03:04:34,840
Speaker 1: nick And minaja Praising trump for going into going into

3107
03:04:34,920 --> 03:04:37,720
Speaker 1: the that and then going Into. Nigeria she confused the

3108
03:04:37,720 --> 03:04:38,360
Speaker 1: your thoughts real.

3109
03:04:38,440 --> 03:04:42,560
Speaker 9: Quick she's, confused she said she. Was she said that

3110
03:04:42,879 --> 03:04:46,600
Speaker 9: she received a deep sense of gratitude when she read

3111
03:04:46,640 --> 03:04:50,920
Speaker 9: About trump's threat to go Into. Nigeria so she's. CONFUSED i,

3112
03:04:51,000 --> 03:04:53,840
Speaker 9: mean look at her, attire look at the woman's. Career,

3113
03:04:54,360 --> 03:04:58,119
Speaker 9: uh she certainly nobody to uh to listen to seriously

3114
03:04:58,320 --> 03:05:01,240
Speaker 9: or even look at seriously as a. Woman where's the dignity?

3115
03:05:01,280 --> 03:05:05,000
Speaker 9: There so this is just somebody responding to AN x

3116
03:05:05,200 --> 03:05:09,720
Speaker 9: or a tweet that's absolutely. Silly with, that we got to.

3117
03:05:09,680 --> 03:05:12,400
Speaker 1: Step aside and close the classroom before we, go professor.

3118
03:05:12,440 --> 03:05:14,200
Speaker 1: Humping how can folks keep up with?

3119
03:05:14,280 --> 03:05:17,760
Speaker 9: You, yes Brother carr. Appreciated So I'm professor May NEW,

3120
03:05:17,879 --> 03:05:21,959
Speaker 9: mpm and you can reach me at my email ADDRESS

3121
03:05:22,120 --> 03:05:25,760
Speaker 9: MAYU mpm at gmail and THAT'S M a N u

3122
03:05:26,520 --> 03:05:29,640
Speaker 9: and THEN MPM A M P I. M also go

3123
03:05:29,760 --> 03:05:34,480
Speaker 9: to my website at vanting theresearch dot org to see

3124
03:05:34,560 --> 03:05:37,520
Speaker 9: my ongoing. Work and please folks reach. Out you can

3125
03:05:37,560 --> 03:05:41,640
Speaker 9: help us with our documentary on. Cush So i'm working

3126
03:05:41,720 --> 03:05:45,760
Speaker 9: on a documentary on ancient and modern cush and so

3127
03:05:45,920 --> 03:05:48,920
Speaker 9: we need as much support as. Possible also find me

3128
03:05:49,040 --> 03:05:52,200
Speaker 9: on social media go to my YouTube Channel professor Main NEW,

3129
03:05:52,320 --> 03:05:55,160
Speaker 9: mpm and also On. Facebook so thank you very. MUCH

3130
03:05:55,200 --> 03:05:55,680
Speaker 9: i appreciate.

3131
03:05:55,720 --> 03:05:56,880
Speaker 4: It all, right thank, You.

3132
03:05:56,920 --> 03:06:00,560
Speaker 1: Professor that's. Said family classes. Dismissed stay, strong stay. Positt

3133
03:06:00,560 --> 03:06:01,240
Speaker 1: we'll see you tomorrow.

3134
03:06:01,280 --> 03:06:01,560
Speaker 4: Morning