1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: I don't know about UKC. I've I've about reached my 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: limit on the government whining about things. Really the local 3 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: government's whining about potential cuts to something. I just I've 4 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: reached the up for with which I cannot stand with 5 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 1: these people. So the Capitol, Indiana Capital Chronicle has this 6 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: article about a bunch of library people who are whining 7 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: about how they're going to make do with the quote 8 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 1: unquote cuts that are coming from this new property tax bill. 9 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: So let's just do a brief reset for everybody on 10 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: sort of how we got here and what's going on. 11 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: New people coming in all the time, all right, So, 12 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: from basically twenty twenty till present day, we have seen 13 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: an explosion in revenue going to local governments by local governments. 14 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: For most people with their property taxes, it makes up 15 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: the following things. Your school, your city or town, your township, 16 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: the county, the public library, and if you have a 17 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: fire territory. Those are the six things when you pay 18 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: property taxes. Now, many cities, like the fire department is 19 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: part of the city tax, but some fire churches. So 20 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: the five or six things you're going to pay for, 21 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: and from twenty twenty through present day, you've seen an 22 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 1: explosion of revenue to each of these government entities because 23 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: they all get a little portion of this pie because 24 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: of the assessment disaster, in which because the government shut down, 25 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: society then printed a bunch of money. People said, I've 26 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: got to have somewhere for this money to go, and 27 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: it's so cheap that I'll just put it into housing, 28 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: which skyrocketed the price of houses here in central Indiana. 29 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: And because taxation is done off of assess well, all 30 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,919 Speaker 1: the government entities got all this extra money. And instead 31 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,839 Speaker 1: of doing the right thing, or the decent thing of saying, hey, 32 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: you know what, we ought to anticipate this not lasting forever, 33 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: why don't we take a few of these shekels and 34 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: put it in a bank account somewhere and hope for 35 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: our citizens. This is the thing that makes me the 36 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: most angry. The government roots against the people. The government, 37 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: the all these local government entities root for you to 38 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: get screwed. They root for as much of your money 39 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: to be taken from you as humanly possible. Because if 40 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: they had any decency about themselves whatsoever, they would have said, hey, 41 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: we really hope this gets corrected pretty quick. Because people 42 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: seeing their property taxes triple. That's just not right. That 43 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: would be the decent thing to do if any of 44 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: these people had an ounce, an ounce of caring about 45 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: you whatsoever, and they would say, you know, we really 46 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: ought to put this money away. We got to store it. 47 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,119 Speaker 1: I mean, heaven forbid, you actually lower your tax trick 48 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: to offset some of these increases. But let's keep all 49 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: of this and then hope something good happens. Like you know, 50 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:06,119 Speaker 1: people get a property tax cut. No, they spent it. 51 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: It became their new baseline of spending. Was all this 52 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: new money that flooded in. There was no inticipation, whether 53 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: it's the schools or these towns or whatever, of hey, 54 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: this gravy train may not ask forever. And now they're 55 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: crying rivers over here. The libraries, which, by the way, 56 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: I think you could make a case in the modern era, 57 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: the best thing the public library does, with everything being online, 58 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: is provide internet access to low income people. It probably 59 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: would have been cheaper just to flood these people with 60 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: internet access. They continue to fund the public library system, 61 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: but that being what it is, now, even the library, 62 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: because they can't manage their money properly, they're crying about 63 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: you getting some money back. 64 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 2: Well, we heard it time and time again during their 65 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: property tax fight, was that if the government's not growing, 66 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: it's dying. 67 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, you have become a slow We talk about this 68 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: on Friday. 69 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 2: Right. 70 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,119 Speaker 1: You are but a slave to the government, and these 71 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: local governments only see you as some worker bee that 72 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: pays money to them. That's all you are. They don't 73 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: appreciate you, they don't care about you. They just see 74 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: you as someone who your job is to shut up 75 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: and pay more money. The library casey, yes, are we 76 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: going to run out of books? 77 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: The Johnson County Public Library director Lisa Lindner, she hosted 78 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 2: two public meetings and they were called Funding in the 79 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 2: Future of JCPL, and she was walking people through the 80 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 2: library discussing how it was funded and how SEA one 81 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 2: was going to affect the future. She said, with the 82 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: passage of SEA one, which was the property tax bill, 83 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 2: they're going to have to begin petitioning our county council 84 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 2: for lit funds in twenty twenty seven. 85 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: So here's why the library's got in trouble. I'm seeing 86 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: it happen. I don't know if they're in trouble, but 87 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: I've seen this happen in my own town. Again, so 88 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 1: much money flood it in, we got to do something 89 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: with it. They've done these massive expansion projects. There's an yeah, 90 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: your library. And by the way, it ain't just like hey, 91 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: let's create a way to put you know, one hundred 92 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: more books on the shelf. They're doing massive infrastructure expansions 93 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: in these public libraries, which again, sorry, dying industry. Most 94 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 1: people are getting stuff at home on the internet. And 95 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: if you work in a library that's in no I 96 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: have a I still have a library card. Okay. So 97 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to indict the people that work there 98 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: or say you're awful people. But that's a dying industry. 99 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: And what we do, because it's government that never has 100 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: to be accountable anything, well, just pump a bunch of 101 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: money into it because it flowed in because of the 102 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 1: assessment stuff. So now they're going to cry to you 103 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: and go, oh, we must get more revenue. Unlike every 104 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: other business in this world, who if there's less revenue 105 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: coming in, they've got to figure out how to make 106 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: it work. They got to figure out how to reinvent 107 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: the wheel. They got to figure out how to have 108 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: a new business model. Like I went for I took 109 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: the tyrant to the baby playground this weekend and I'm like, 110 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 1: I'm looking at, did you know we have two football 111 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 1: fields in Brownsburg now, yeah, and two like legitimate astro 112 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: turf bleachers you can go conduct any sort of event 113 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: you want to. And then I'm looking at they've like 114 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: draped the bleachers with this giant Brownsburg Bulldogs tarp type thing, 115 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: and it's bleach. It's not like you can see in. 116 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: It's like you see through. It's like somebody would stand 117 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: at the fence and try to see through these bleachers 118 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 1: to watch the game. There's no purposes. And then it 119 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: just looks cool because we made it look more like 120 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: a college football stadium. We made it. They did these 121 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: massive renovations to the press box again, and yet I 122 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: watched these meetings where the Brownsburg school system is crying 123 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: rivers over the fact that Senate Bill one might take 124 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: some money from them and you know what they're gonna do. 125 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: And they're the good guys in the equation right now, 126 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: because at least they're not referendum people. This is where 127 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: we're at. This is how bad it's gotten, Casey, that 128 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: the good people they're still screwing you. You're like, well, 129 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: it could be worse, when couldn't be our neighbors to 130 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: CONSI where they're talking about, well, we'll just get around 131 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: this by raising our tax right, they already know they're 132 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: going to get around it. Yeah, but this will never 133 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: stop because the governor's a coward. He wouldn't stand up 134 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: to the General Assembly. The General Assembly writes laws that 135 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: nobody can understand, and by the way, they do the 136 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: bare minimum. They do the bare minimum because they're actually 137 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: more afraid of the schools and the libraries than they 138 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: are you. But think about that. The library's mad you're 139 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: getting three hundred dollars back. This article is talking about 140 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: the public library. People are mad, sure, your property taxes 141 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: have tripled, which means conceivably, if your property taxes have tripled, 142 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: they've gotten triple the revenue from you. They weren't mad 143 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: about that. They didn't care about that. They don't care 144 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: about you being able to pay your bills or stay 145 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: in your home. They're mad you're getting three hundred bucks back, 146 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: and they're basically trying to make you think they're going 147 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: to shut the door. 148 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 3: So this is just an example. 149 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 2: But the Johnson County Library gets forty percent of its 150 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 2: operating budget from LIT money, and the director there said 151 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 2: by twenty twenty eight of the library districts could see 152 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 2: devastating outcomes if LIT funding is not approved, So give 153 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 2: us more money. Two questions for you, though, One did 154 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 2: we ever hear if the governor and the Lieutenant governor 155 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 2: said yes that they would go canvas houses for that 156 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 2: Avon referendum? 157 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: Okay, So first of all, I just want to clear 158 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: when you're saying LIT, that's local income tax, yes, which 159 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: under Senate Bill one, sure you're getting that little property 160 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: tax cut which will go away in about four years 161 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: because property taxes will keep going up so we'll be offset. 162 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: But now the local governments can raise your income tax. 163 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: And you're already hearing the sweet sorrows of the library 164 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: people practically begging now there to be income tax increases 165 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: to offset your property tax increase. So I wanted to 166 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: explain her by what they're advocating for their money, so 167 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: we know what they're talking about. Okay. No, those scumbags 168 00:08:55,640 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: down an Avon, the Avon school system, because they're there, 169 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: they were very upset that the new property text law. 170 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to go to even years where people 171 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: show up to vote. And these school systems depend on 172 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: people not knowing there's referendums going on. They depend on 173 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: people not knowing them happening when people don't normally vote, 174 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: because they'll get all their people there. They decided they 175 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: were gonna sprint to the finished line and do a 176 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: referendum in the fall this year and odd year because 177 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: that law now is in effect, and they passed their 178 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: referendum to go to referendum before the new law took effect, 179 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: which I told Thompson and I told Braun, and I 180 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: told all these people this is gonna happen. But neither 181 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 1: here nor there. Now. What Casey's asking is the Lieutenant governor, 182 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: I believe, told us this on our radio program that 183 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: he would go knock on doors for any referendum and 184 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: try to defeat any referendum. And the Governor told me 185 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: in our famous well our last encounter together. You know, 186 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: it was the final time the govern I ever appeared 187 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: in the same room together and spoke words and well, 188 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: I'm so glad. 189 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 3: I Mary patted you on the head and said they're there. 190 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 3: I told you will be fine. 191 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: I told Governor dementia patient that I said, these people 192 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: are going to be sprinting to the referendum turnstiles and 193 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: at one point he said, O, well I would, I 194 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 1: would knock. I said, are you going to go knock 195 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: on doors to help them? And he said, well yes, 196 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: And I said, I looked at everybody in the room 197 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: and said, y'all transcribing that that the governor said he 198 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: would go knock on doors. So the people in Avon 199 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: because they're being forced to fight a referendum, because just 200 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: like the library people, the Avon School System school board 201 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: administrators clearly don't give a damn about their taxpayers. They 202 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: they have reached out to the governor and Lieutenant Governor 203 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: in a feverish fashion to find out when they're going 204 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: to come knock on the doors. I said publicly, whatever 205 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: day they commit to, I will come with them, show 206 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: them how to do it, and we will all in 207 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 1: full force try to help the people of Avon. Rob Kendall, 208 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: the governor and the Lieutenant governor. And thus far crickets, 209 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: no return o elfono callo. 210 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 3: So that's not happening right now. 211 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: And Micah and Braun have such a strong, strong connection 212 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: to the truth case see, and there's no track record. 213 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: Where is Micah Well, I don't know. I have not 214 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: seen nor heard, nor has anybody on social media. There's 215 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 1: been no verifiable photo that I have seen of the 216 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: Lieutenant governor in the past what I believe six days. 217 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: So if somebody has seen or heard from him, that's 218 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: kind of weird, isn't it. 219 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 3: Yeah. 220 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 2: The other question that I have for you, yes, was 221 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 2: regarding property taxes. We were told that that would be 222 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 2: readdressed in the next session, that's right, which starts in January. 223 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: The Braun told me we're coming back for more. I 224 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: believe the direct quote was I'm coming back for more, 225 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: and I said, you are coming for nothing. 226 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 3: Okay, So have we heard the plan? 227 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: No? No, And which is we're in September. 228 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 2: I know that they're very focused on a special session, whether. 229 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 3: They will or won't have that. 230 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, no, No, I've not heard anything. Which I 231 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: mean or is November, So that's September October. They basically 232 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: got two and a half months. Yeah, because everything it's 233 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: sort of set by Org Day. 234 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 3: Maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised. 235 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: He's still conning, I mean meeting with those well, meeting 236 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: people at his governor's residence, is my understanding, So maybe 237 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: he'll tell them what the plan is. Hey, I had 238 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,719 Speaker 1: to buy a fridge over the weekend. Now I want 239 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: to hear about it. That was a whole hayard. 240 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 2: There's a lot of Labor Day sales applying some furniture sales. 241 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: Tail isn't what it used to be. 242 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 3: Case, okay, you're going to tell us all about it. 243 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 2: Coming up from ninety three WIBC. 244 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: Boy, case, you've never lived until you've bought a refrigerator. 245 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 3: Did you have a good time? I want to hear 246 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 3: all about it. 247 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 2: So Consumer Reports says that Labor Day discounts are among 248 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 2: some of the strongest of the year, even beating Memorial 249 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 2: Day and Fourth of July sales. 250 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: So okay, so you put it to the test. Well, 251 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: let's reset this for everybody, because it was not just 252 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: the purchasing of said refrigerator. It's you got to get 253 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: it delivered, and I'll get into that. And then I 254 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 1: had another issue that was probably the biggest issue of 255 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: them all I had to deal with. So this would 256 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: have been what Thursday night, the temperature on my freezer 257 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 1: and refrigerator started elevating like I went into the fridge 258 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 1: to get something and it was higher than it should 259 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: have been. And I told my wife, I said, I 260 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: think there's something wrong with the refrigerator in freezer and 261 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: already tried to reset it. I'd done all the things right. 262 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: Sometimes the tyrant will just leave the door open, she 263 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: gets in there and whatever, So sometimes that'll happen that 264 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: I thought, now, this seems like there's something because it 265 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: was the freezer and the fridge, and like, there's no 266 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 1: no way she's getting into both of those. That's not happening. 267 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: And my wife is always so helpful. She's like, well, 268 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: did you reset it right? 269 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 3: Jump? Plug it, plug it back in. 270 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: Yes, I did reset it, and then she goes, well, 271 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: let me look at it, and then comes back in 272 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: she goes, I reset it, great, Well I did that 273 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: an hour ago. 274 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 3: Thanks. 275 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: So then it proceeded to get well, it was. It 276 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: was climbing. It was climbing rapidly to the point where, okay, 277 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: now there's something seriously wrong here. 278 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 3: Right, and by the way, every time you open the 279 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 3: door to check. 280 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 2: Thank you. 281 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: So I had to get all the stuff out, had 282 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: to take it over to my neighbor's house, throw it 283 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: in his. 284 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 3: Your neighbor's house. 285 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: For available fridge and freezer. Threw about half the stuff 286 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: away because it was all expired. So I did that. 287 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 3: Time for a cleanup. 288 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: Then Friday had the there. It was horrible trying to 289 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: get somebody to come and look at the thing on Friday, 290 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: because of course it's a long week in a lot 291 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: of people are out, so it was hard even get somebody. Final. 292 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: They got somebody to come, they look at it, They're like. 293 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, this is broken. Yeah, they're like this, Uh, 294 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 4: that'll be two hundred dollars. The compressor has broke. Here's 295 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 4: your feet that. Here's what it cost. It was gonna 296 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 4: cost thirteen hundred dollars. 297 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: To fix it. Oh wow, because apparently the people who 298 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: in the house before us had a refrigerator made of gold. 299 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: I guess, I don't know. Matt Hiplin and I are boss. 300 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: We were talking about this and he said this is 301 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: the p he goes things used to last twenty five 302 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: thirty years. But they add all these gadgets and gizmos 303 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: and everything. 304 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 3: Else, and it's like, you're right over complicated. 305 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: I don't need a water dispenser, I don't need an 306 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: ice maker. 307 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 3: It's a USB port on your refrigerator. It's in the fridge. 308 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: Casey, it's cold anyway, what do I need ice for? 309 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: So so he's like, yeah, it'll cost thirteen hundred dollars fix. 310 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: I was like, no, it won't. So here's your money. 311 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: Have a good day to you, sir, And then went 312 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: on the hunt to find a fridge. Well found, got 313 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: several advice the tips from people. No one wanted to 314 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: give me a fridge, which was kind of he tried 315 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: shady of our audience, but to go to Costco. 316 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 2: So I went, I don't know, most people just don't 317 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 2: have an extra refrigerator in their pocket, like, oh, here's one. 318 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: People have extra things laying around. All we do for 319 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: the people, Casey, the one time we need them, where 320 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: they to be found? They're not. They're nowhere to be found. 321 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 3: You problem. 322 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: So I went to Costco. Found the fridge there that 323 00:15:58,760 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: I liked. 324 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 3: Nice and this. 325 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: Costco is an abon. They don't deliver to brownsburg. 326 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 3: What right, Well they said it's down the road. 327 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: Well they said it's not. It's not. This this specific 328 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: fridge is not deliverable, deliverable to Brownsbog. I asked that 329 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: I was like, does that make any sense to you? 330 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: He's like no, and then we just kind of stared 331 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: at each other. Was like, can you find out why? 332 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? 333 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: She's like, oh yeah, I'll get right on that. Like 334 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: I had to suggest, can you let me know why 335 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: they would not delivering delivering this fridge to Brownsburg. So 336 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: he disappears for like thirty minutes. Then I get the 337 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: joy of standing there with my wife for thirty minutes, 338 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: and she's just such a joy that she has to 339 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: be out here doing this, because she was like, you 340 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: should just go get the fridge. I said, I'm not 341 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: just buying something on my own. 342 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 2: You'll come back with some olive green refre You're gonna 343 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 2: be You're gonna own whatever we walk out of here with. 344 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: You're not gonna hate me for years as they got 345 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: the wrong fridge. 346 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 3: Because she could use that agains exactly. 347 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: So then finally he comes back. He's like, they don't 348 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: know why it can't be delivered. 349 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 2: No. 350 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: I was like, but they're the ones making the call. 351 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, they're going to look into it. 352 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 3: They think sort of insurance. I don't know. 353 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: He said it should be updated, give it a few hours. 354 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: Maybe the update. So we gave it like twelve hours 355 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: and there had been no there'd been no there was 356 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: no update. There was no update, so shocking. Then Sunday 357 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: I told my wife after church, I said, old man 358 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,479 Speaker 1: and I are leaving. We'll come back with the fridge 359 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: and you're just have to deal with I have the 360 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: marching instructions of no ice maker, no water line. 361 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 3: Strap that sucker down to the top of the car. 362 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: So we had to go. We went to another place 363 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: that advertises big sales, grand opening. 364 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, that sounds promising. 365 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: They don't have anything in stock. Oh, I found what 366 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 1: I liked again, went found the thing. 367 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 3: You couldn't get the floor model. 368 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: I said, when can this be delivered September sixteenth? 369 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 2: What? 370 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 1: No, you're a superstore, it's your grand opening. Yeah, we 371 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: don't have that one in stock. Then why is it 372 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 1: on the floor Wait? I waited like twenty minutes, going 373 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: all the questions with the guy, going through all the stuff. Okay, 374 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: very good. I would like to buy this thing September 375 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: the sixteen. So go to a third place. Finally they 376 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: have one. 377 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 3: Okay, and they have. 378 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: It in stock and they're going to deliver it on 379 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 1: a Wednesday. 380 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 3: Yes, great. 381 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: Then we get to the second part of the equation, 382 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: which is because this fridge had a water dispenser and 383 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: an ice maker on the door on the inside. On 384 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: the inside, there's a water line. Yeah, that runs to 385 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 1: the thing. Sure, right, So several of our keen no 386 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 1: doubt plumbing experienced listeners were like, you better make sure 387 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: that you got that thing capped because that that will 388 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: they will probably not do that on an install. And 389 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 1: I was like, well, I don't know anything about this. 390 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 3: They're the ones who are installing. They should know. 391 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: So old Man and I do a cursory glance of 392 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: the whole thing, and the water line is somehow running 393 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: into the floor. It's like, figure there would be a 394 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 1: spickett back there. You could turn it off, you know, 395 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: then you cap it all that stuff. No, of course not. 396 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: So now you get a figure out where that water 397 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 1: line runs too, which means you got to get under 398 00:18:59,920 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: the crawl space. So I opened the I've never opened 399 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: the crawl space since we've owned the house in there, 400 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: and I open it up and it's just cobwebs galore. 401 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: And so Dad's like, better go down there and look. 402 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: I better go down there and look, you're. 403 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 3: Like, Gabrielle, I got some for you. 404 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: So I take the broom and I hit the cobwebs 405 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 1: and just spiders just come crawling out everywhere. So I 406 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: get down there. I'm looking around. It's like, I don't 407 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: know anything about plumbing. It's like it's really dark. I'm 408 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: getting back out of here. 409 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 3: Got a flash. 410 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what to do. I'm gonna call 411 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: plumber or something. Well, my buddy Clay, who actually works 412 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: with Gabrielle. He is the world's greatest handyman. And I 413 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: call him and I'm like, Clay, you know, I'm totally incompetent. Hey, Clay, 414 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna like the breaking stuff. He's like, 415 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 1: all right, give me thirty minutes. I'll be there. Well, 416 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: that was nice. So he's mister fixed that. He's like 417 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: the real life al Borland from from Home Improvement. And 418 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: he shows up and he figures out where the water 419 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: line is running. It was under the sink in the 420 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: in the kitchen for some reason, which is very bizarre. 421 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 1: I figured to be to the bathroom which backs up 422 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: to the kitchen, but he figured out where it was. 423 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: We turned that off. He went to the store, got 424 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 1: some part. The best part was I had to go 425 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: bart in that event. I was like, well, gotta go 426 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 1: see you, so you're. 427 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 3: Like, have this wrapped up when I get back, it'd 428 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 3: be great. 429 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: And so he and my old man they figured it out, 430 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: did it. And now I've got our fridge coming and 431 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 1: everything's been capped. 432 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 3: Nice, so you're ready to go. You don't have the frige. 433 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure there'll be some problem. When they delivered 434 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: the fridge. 435 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 3: Did you measure Like, oh, yeah, the same it's been measured. 436 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 2: Okay, because I can totally see that you go out 437 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 2: having not measured and they come to deliver it and 438 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 2: there's not enough room. 439 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 3: No, that's between the counter. 440 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 1: So why I brought my old man with me because 441 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: I know he, just like my wife, would be a 442 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: see I told you so person. So I had him 443 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: approved that the measurements were the measurements, and he took 444 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 1: the measurements. So that way, if it's. 445 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 3: Screwed up because you got to measure diagonal. 446 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: I understand casey. Hey, I've been consumed by this for 447 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 1: the past six days. Now, I'm so sick of it. 448 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: And at one point, like as I'm crawling under the 449 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: crawl space. My wife is sitting on the couch and 450 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: she goes, why do you look so upset? 451 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 3: Because I'm sick of all of this. What kind of 452 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 3: fridge did you get? 453 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 2: Like? 454 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 3: Is it just high level stainless steel? 455 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: I didn't want to get one, but my wife was like, 456 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: you must get a stainless and it matches the Yeah fine, yeah, 457 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: you know what? 458 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 3: Did you get a deal on it? 459 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 4: Yeah? 460 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: It was fine. Oh I mean the fact that you've 461 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: got to buy sale. Yeah, yeah, it was it was whatever. 462 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: I didn't care at that. Boy, it was like ten 463 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. I've done keeps just done going places. You know, 464 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 1: let's have a conversation about adulthood when we get back, sha. 465 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 3: We because that sounds like you experienced. 466 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: This is the thing, right. You know who knows a 467 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: lot about adulthood is John Herrick? 468 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 2: All right, he's up next with the news on ninety 469 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 2: three w IBC. 470 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: Now I've been had. You see I spent thirty seven 471 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: million on a trucking facility. 472 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 3: I did see that in Lebanon. 473 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: We'll get to that in a second, Okay, Because I 474 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: have many questions about this, about how this benefits me 475 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: as a tax payer. Okay, all right, but let's talk 476 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: about adulthood for a second, shall we. 477 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 3: I've done it for a few years. 478 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: Well, you have experienced. I mean, you've thoroughly raised a 479 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: child from start to finish. You've done the whole You've 480 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: done the whole thing, yep. I mean, I'm not trying 481 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: to paint you as like Casey's on the you know, 482 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: the last hole of the golf course or something in 483 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 1: life's journey. 484 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 3: But I'm saying I'm a little past the turn you've moved. 485 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you have you have done, You've done the adulting, yeah, 486 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 1: and have like one of the things that nobody prepares 487 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: you for with adulthood. If you missed last seconment, it's 488 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: talking about this just giant disaster monstrosity that's been trying 489 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 1: to replace my refrigerator and try to do it over 490 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 1: a holiday weekend. And like you're just when you're young, 491 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: and I remember people telling me this, but you can't 492 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 1: you can't fathom what the reality of it actually is. 493 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: And keV, you're getting into the window. I've told you 494 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: that the window, the best window to be a single 495 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: person is like twenty seven to thirty one. Because you're 496 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: still young enough to do whatever you want to do. 497 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: You have all sorts of disposable income. 498 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 3: And still take some risks and make mistakes. 499 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: And you know, like you're not your past the insanity 500 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 1: phase of your existence, Like you don't you don't have 501 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 1: to deal with stupidity because you have options, right. But 502 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: then Warren Zevon once did a song called life Will 503 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: Kill You and boy, after about age thirty one, the 504 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: reality of adulthood starts setting in. And then the more 505 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: the further down the path you get, the more choices 506 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 1: you make. You know, then, liar, liar. At one point, 507 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 1: Jim Carrey's asked to explain himself, and of course he 508 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 1: can't lie, and so he says, like, I'm getting what 509 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: is what I deserve. I'm reaping what I sew put 510 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 1: myself to blame. You think, you just keep adding to 511 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: your list of responsibilities, and then you realize at some 512 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: point your life just became one giant responsibility. 513 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 3: And it's getting more and more difficult. 514 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: It is. Yes, I went from no responsibility as a 515 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: forty year old man. I went in ten years from 516 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 1: literally no responsibility to nothing but responsibility. I somehow choiced 517 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 1: myself into a life of responsibility. Yes, well I was 518 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:33,239 Speaker 1: where keV was, thirty, single, not married, no children. You 519 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: out with me, You out till three, waking up at 520 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: nude eating Spaghettio's for breakfast. And now what do I do? 521 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: I'm crawling under crawl spaces. I'm spending hours trying to 522 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: find a refrigerator. I'm dealing with incompetent salespeople at the 523 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: various refrigerator stores like that. Dead is my life. Yeah, 524 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: it's nothing but a responsibility. I go places. I have 525 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 1: to figure out how am I going to keep the tire, 526 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: how well will the tyrant behave for how long? How 527 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: can I keep distracting her so she remains Well, it's 528 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: just just one thing after another. 529 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 3: Casey, and I think it's more complicated. 530 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: Now does it get better as well? 531 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 2: With you know, everything, all the technology that is there 532 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 2: to enhance our lives does make it a little bit 533 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 2: more complicated better, especially for older people. 534 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: You're deliberately not answering the question does it get any better? 535 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: When does it start getting better? 536 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 3: Yes, it will get better for you when when. 537 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: Like a year from now, Like. 538 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 2: I mean, I just I don't know about a year 539 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 2: from now, but at some point your daughter will be 540 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 2: able to make her own food. 541 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: No, no, no, but eat herself. But you can't just leave 542 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 1: them alone. You can't just say I'm out of here. 543 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 3: No, you do your job. At a certain point you 544 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 3: can and they'll be responsible. That's the key. 545 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 2: Make sure you do a good job when they're young 546 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 2: so that when they are older you can leave them 547 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 2: alone for a short amount of time. 548 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just uh. It used to be a renter too. 549 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: Renting was much easier because you would just say. 550 00:25:58,520 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you just call somebody else. 551 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: He just called for for the guy, go hey, for 552 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: the frigerator's not working. You need to go over and 553 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: fix this. 554 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 2: Uh huh quickly, and then that thirteen h rapid fix 555 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 2: because on their shoulders. 556 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: Well, I mean you pay for it in terms of the rent, 557 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: but you know anyway, Uh okay, So we spent thirty 558 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: seven million dollars on a trucking on a trucking facility, 559 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: is that right? 560 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a long Interstate sixty five near mile marker 561 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 2: one forty eight and one hundred and fifty semi truck 562 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 2: parking spaces. 563 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: What does that do for me? Because aren't most. 564 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 3: Of the restroom access. 565 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: Again, what does that do for thirty seven million sounds 566 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 1: like a lot for a trucking facility, doesn't it? 567 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 3: It does. 568 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 2: But you know, we are in the crossroads of America, 569 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 2: right Those truckers have to stop somewhere. 570 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 3: They need someplace to rest and go. 571 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 2: Doesn't that keep the road safer for you if they 572 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 2: have a place to pull off? 573 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, but thirty seven million sounds like a lot of 574 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: dollars for not having any money to help me with 575 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: the gas tax. 576 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 3: For some pay the gas tax. I mean, really, what 577 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 3: are we talking about. 578 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 2: We're talking about some asphalt and building with some toilets 579 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 2: in any of our truckers. 580 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: Let us know, Rob at WIBC dot com is the 581 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: why is the trucking facility so expensive? What's going on 582 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: there that's costing so much? And how does this actually 583 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 1: because I don't know a lot of people leaving the state. 584 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: Are they just driving through the state? Are we essentially 585 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: subsidizing they're driving of through the state? And I get 586 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: that every state has the rest stops, and I'm okay 587 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: with that, but I keep coming back to the price 588 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 1: tag of thirty seven mil. 589 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 590 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 2: Right, So it's part of a ten year strategic investment. 591 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 2: They call it the end Out actually plans to invest 592 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 2: over six hundred million dollars into twenty one rest areas, 593 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 2: welcome centers, and truck parking locations across the state over 594 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 2: the next ten years. 595 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I just i'd a million a years. 596 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: You see why people would be infuriated by that, don't you? 597 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: You see why people would say, well, wait a second. Okay, 598 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: everybody wants our truckers to be safe. Everybody wants you know, 599 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: you know, a decent place for them to go. But 600 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: it's a little hard when one truck stop takes up 601 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: thirty seven million and then you come to me with 602 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: your handout and go pay up. Gas tax went up 603 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: again this year. 604 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 2: Well that's the price to pay to get those goods 605 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 2: to consumers across the country. 606 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: Right, But is it my responsibility to get something to Pennsylvania? 607 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,719 Speaker 1: Is it? Well, sixty five wouldn't go to Pensylvania. 608 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 3: Is it my response to get something to Chicago? 609 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: To get something to Chicago or Wisconsin or whatever? Right? 610 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: Is that? 611 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 3: Well they made it your responsibility, didn't they. 612 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: Okay, Colin says they're severe parking shortages in America. 613 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what. 614 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,959 Speaker 2: I've heard for these for these long haul truckers, and 615 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 2: I've seen it many times where they're not even in 616 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 2: parking spots. They're on the ramp into the rest area 617 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 2: and the exit ramp. 618 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 3: They're parked there rather than in spots. 619 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well, look, I'm glad the trucker's got 620 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: something nice. As usual, I had to pay for it, 621 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: So you're welcome. 622 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 2: Indt's planning on adding twelve hundred new parking spaces across Indiana, oh, 623 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 2: over the next great several years. 624 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: Absolutely wonderful. 625 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 3: You're going to double their compedity, No doubt. 626 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: They will take every every uh measure possible to make 627 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: it as inexpensive as part. 628 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 2: I mean, the roads are going to suck as they 629 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 2: drive across the stat it's the thing. But at least 630 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 2: they'll have a nice place to rest. That'd be the 631 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 2: fresh faced and ready to go. 632 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: If the roads stink for the truckers to drive on, 633 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't it be more important to make the roads better 634 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: for the people to drive on? 635 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,479 Speaker 3: Possibly? I mean they do need a place to stop. 636 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and again, nobody has problems stopping. I just don't 637 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: cost thirty seven million. 638 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 3: Makes it safer for everybody else on the road. Yeah, 639 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 3: but I feel like that's that's successive. 640 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: Well, I feel like they're holding that overhead, like, don't 641 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: you want it's always the you hate kids, right, you 642 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: hate the truckers. Don't you want someone? Yes, of course 643 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: I want that. I think I could have done it 644 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: for cheaper than thirty seven million. 645 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 2: Probably Hammer is going to join us next. It's ninety three. 646 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 2: Wybc's last book was. 647 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: Hate You went out. I went to Jason Hammer's Here 648 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: Kennelly Casey show, I'm Robins Casey. You pointed out, we 649 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: have not mentioned this guy in a long time. A 650 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: blast from the past is still apparently sitting in the 651 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: Marion County jail. 652 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 5: Right, So Gabe Whitley, honest, Gabe, the man behind the 653 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 5: very full staffed who's your inquirer? Which, ironically has it 654 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 5: really been posting a lot since he went to federal prison? 655 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: Oddly silent was weird. I was told they had a 656 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: big staff. 657 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 5: But yeah, he got out of federal prison but then 658 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 5: refused to do something. 659 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: And now he's in Marion County lock up. 660 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 3: Okay, she's to do something. 661 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: Okay, so most people remember, but Gabe Whitley is the 662 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: guy who got dead last. He ran for congress in 663 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: Marion County. He got dead last in the primary, lost 664 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: to a dead person. Lost to a dead person. I mean, 665 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: she smoked him. And in the process it was revealed 666 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: that he had created all these fake donors. I mean, 667 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,719 Speaker 1: this is this is the dumbest thing a person has 668 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: ever gone to prison for ever, And he created all 669 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: these fake donors. 670 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 5: Which became a campaign finance fraud thing, right, and then 671 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 5: he was ultimately he pled guilty. 672 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: He was sitting to stay I think three months in 673 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: federal prison and Thompson, Illinois. He got out what a 674 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: week or two ago, and then allegedly was like, I guess, 675 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: refusing to wear his ankle monitor because he has state 676 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: charges related to threatening Abdul on the internet, which he 677 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: now has to go. Now he's out a federal prison 678 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: face these charges. And in the meantime, in the means, 679 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: so he got at federal prison, had to come back report, 680 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,479 Speaker 1: wouldn't report, or wouldn't wear the ankle monitor or something. 681 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 5: And then wasn't that a problem previous, Like, wasn't he 682 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 5: trying to get the ankle monitor off? 683 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: He cut it off on his trip to allegedly he 684 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: cut it off on his trip to Illinoy to HELLINOI 685 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: and I think there was a warrant out for him, 686 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: but then he showed up at the federal pen and 687 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: they were like, you know, take it off or whatever. 688 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: And so then they went and got him. And now 689 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: they put him in the Marion County prison and then 690 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: he had some sort of hearing last week and I 691 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: guess they denied his ability to get out. So because 692 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: this dumbass didn't want to wear an ankle monitor, he's 693 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: going to spend it, I don't know, look foreseeable future 694 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: county jail. Yeah, so the question I have is can 695 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: we go visit him? That's a great question. 696 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 5: If he's just here in the Marion County lockup. Now 697 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 5: he would have to approve the visitor, right, like you 698 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 5: can't just show up, and then they would say, oh, sure. 699 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: You get to see him. Regardless, he has to approve it. 700 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 5: But if we said we're here from the Indie Star 701 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 5: and we want to do a story on how evil 702 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 5: Rob Kendall and Jason Hammram been making fun of you, 703 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 5: he'll accept it. And then imagine the smile on that 704 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 5: fat bastard's face when we walk into the Marion County 705 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 5: Lockup for a little visit with honest Gabe. 706 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you get like, I don't care what 707 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: your opinion is on some sort of monitoring device. If 708 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: indeed that's true, that's why he didn't report, wouldn't report 709 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: or whatever. But like, I can't imagine a worse place 710 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: to spend one hour of your life, much less a 711 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,959 Speaker 1: month or more however long it's going to be than 712 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: the Marion County jail. 713 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 5: This isn't club fed anymore, right, because some people could 714 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 5: say there's a difference in federal prisons. There's oh my god, 715 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 5: you better watch yourself federal prison, and then there's club fed. 716 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 5: Marion County Lockup has got some nasty dudes. 717 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: In it, Yeah, people who have killed people. 718 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 5: So honest, Gabe, man, you better keep that multiple necks 719 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 5: on a swivel because there are some bad ombres in 720 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 5: that joint. 721 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: And all of this, he got nothing out of it. 722 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: Usually with the crime, there's something you get out of it. 723 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: Like some the people were fake. The donors never existed, 724 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: so we got nothing out of that. 725 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 5: You made the Hoosier Inquirer, which it would always just 726 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 5: break my heart when I'd see people that would share 727 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 5: something from the Who's Your Inquirer and think that it's 728 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 5: a real publication. 729 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: It's like, man, come on, yeah, so obviously Ei there's 730 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,439 Speaker 1: a special prosecutor now. I believe Delaware County is where 731 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: the prosecutor's out of that they've brought in. He's a 732 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,280 Speaker 1: pretty no nonsense guy. You can tell the judge can't 733 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 1: stand the dude because he got a different judge because 734 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: he was just pestering the previous judge, and so I 735 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: think in a weird way, he may go down harder 736 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: on this online threat stuff. There's a chance than the 737 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: campaign finance. I think we need to make a video 738 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 1: where we go visit gay. Yeah, well, can you find 739 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 1: out what the rules are today? Can you call her 740 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 1: and find out, like, if I want to visit someone, 741 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: what the rules are to actually go visit right? 742 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 5: Or you know, maybe if he doesn't want to do 743 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 5: a face to face could we do something on the phone. 744 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 1: We can say we're with the Hoo's your Inquirer and 745 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: we're very concerned that our boss. 746 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 5: Hasn't returned any messages because we definitely exist. 747 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: You want a piece of crab? Yeah, speaking of pieces 748 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: of speaking of pieces of crab boy, Arch Manning. He 749 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:14,720 Speaker 1: wasn't very good, was he? Wow? 750 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 5: No, here's where I'm at with Arch Manning, right, And 751 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 5: that was a bad performance. He was inaccurate a lot. 752 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 5: But at the same time, man Ohio State's really good. 753 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 5: They're the defending national champions. I know they sent a 754 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 5: bunch of people to the NFL, but places like that 755 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 5: they just reload and Peyton. People forget about this. When 756 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 5: Peyton was in college, he could never beat Florida. He 757 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 5: was zero for four against the Florida Gators and looked 758 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 5: at crap against them all the time. Peyton turned out 759 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,879 Speaker 5: all right, Now, I'm no head coach here. I don't, 760 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 5: you know, advise at the Manning Passing Academy. But a 761 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 5: lot of folks are saying there's a little bit of 762 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 5: a hitch in Arch's delivery. 763 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: Uncle Rico, Like it's a little Uncle Rico right from 764 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 1: Napoleon type. 765 00:35:58,480 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 3: You know. 766 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes is like the only one that can ever 767 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 5: do that and get away with it. Right now, Arch 768 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 5: Manning ain't no Patrick Mahomes and he had a bad game. 769 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 1: Now. I think on our Degenerates next Door sports betting podcast, 770 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 1: somebody raised their hand and was like, what if he's 771 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: not very good. 772 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 3: That what if he's not worth the seven million? 773 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 1: Well that was my point, is like everybody just anointed 774 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 1: this guy because his last name was Manning the air 775 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 1: to the greatest player ever, and it's like whatever his 776 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,399 Speaker 1: name were, Smith, here's my thing. 777 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 5: And again, there's never been a Manning that has been 778 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 5: bad at college football. That's true from the old man. 779 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 5: Even Cooper. Cooper was really good before his injury at 780 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 5: All Miss as a receiver. That's true, of course, Eli 781 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 5: and Peyton. Peyton could never win the big one at Tennessee. 782 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 5: I probably watched more of those games than anybody here 783 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,360 Speaker 5: in Indiana. Like, now everybody's a Peyton expert in Indiana. 784 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 5: Sure some of us are Tennessee. Of all people, Peyton 785 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 5: could never beat the Florida Gators. Steve Spurrier had his 786 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,359 Speaker 5: number and they were really good. 787 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 1: So maybe this is. 788 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 5: A one game setback for arch I don't know. I 789 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,359 Speaker 5: feel like he's going to get better. I don't think 790 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 5: he can get much worse. But that Ohio State team 791 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 5: was really good. 792 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 2: Man Hey, speaking of Ohio State, any thoughts on Ryan 793 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 2: Day and his new accessories? 794 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 5: So is that for real, did he have a Governor 795 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 5: Cuomo style nipple ring on? Because there are pictures going 796 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,359 Speaker 5: around the internet to show him wearing a very tight 797 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:26,439 Speaker 5: drop kendall Esques medium shirt and little tech shirt. Right, 798 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 5: and then remember when Governor Cuomo, the Love Gov was 799 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 5: in New York. 800 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,439 Speaker 1: You could see through his shirt and he had the ring. 801 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 1: Ryan Days got one too. 802 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 3: He had a good time during the offseason. 803 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 5: Like, is that total midlife crisis because you know he bleaches, 804 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 5: you know he dies that beard. 805 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 1: There's no way it's that jet bland right. Yeah, it's 806 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: like Saddam Hussein with the boot black on the mustache. Yeah. 807 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 1: You ever you ever have an engagement with somebody who 808 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: had a nipple ring? 809 00:37:54,400 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 5: H No, I've had engagement with tongue, but not on 810 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 5: the can. 811 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 1: Okay does that make sense? 812 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:04,439 Speaker 3: Yeah? 813 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: No, it's fine. I got you. Okay, it's a little intimidating. 814 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 3: Well, it's not. 815 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 1: Not if you know what you're doing. I mean I 816 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: know what I'm doing. I think I've known more about 817 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: what I'm doing than you ever have. Cagy used to 818 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: come in my studio to learn how to know what 819 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:20,399 Speaker 1: to do. 820 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 3: I brought up the topic and I want to tiptoe 821 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 3: right out of it. 822 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 1: Did you ever have one pierced? 823 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 3: No? No, nothing out It seems like it would hurt 824 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 3: a lot. 825 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 1: That would before your time. I think that was more 826 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 1: of your time thing where that started becoming up. 827 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, my time were the piercings in the tramp stamps 828 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 5: and all that kind of stuff. 829 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 1: You know, gen xers. Do you ever see the barbed 830 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 1: wire tattoo anymore? Either? That's really something that went away. 831 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 4: Remember everybody had the barbed wire tattoo, especially around the bike. 832 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 5: I think the Rock had one. Goldberg had one in wrestling. 833 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,399 Speaker 1: See skinny the Rock is now? Is that real? He's 834 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 1: got some movie where he's had to lose a bunch 835 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: of whoa, So he's not ill. So these photos have 836 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 1: surface of the Rock and he looks like remember when 837 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:05,720 Speaker 1: Matthew McConaughey played the guy Dallas Buyers Klaus Buyers Club. Yeah, 838 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,240 Speaker 1: like this is the Rock version of the Dallas Buyers 839 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 1: Club or let's face it. I don't think it's a 840 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 1: stretch to think the Rock might have been getting some 841 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 1: aid with his size, especially at near fifty years. 842 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:18,919 Speaker 3: Old, a little more than a GLP one. 843 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: I mean, he looks fine. Now if you didn't know 844 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:21,959 Speaker 1: what he looked like before. 845 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 5: Right before, there may or may not have been some 846 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 5: supplements that have been pumped into the ruck. 847 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: They call it the gas, don't they. That's what they 848 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 1: the juice, the gas. 849 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 2: What possibly is healthier now that he's lost some weight, 850 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 2: but you're so used to seeing him bigger that he 851 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 2: almost looks sick. 852 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I mean, he looks like 853 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: a very healthy normal like he's still pretty jacked up dude, right, 854 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: you see that dude walking on the beach like man, 855 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 1: that dude's cut. Yeah, but when you know what he 856 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: was just I mean what WrestleMania was or the wrestling 857 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 1: The last time he was on was a few months ago, 858 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 1: and he seemed much more sizable. 859 00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,439 Speaker 5: They're trainers in Hollywood that specialize on that stuff, though. 860 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 5: Who's the guy that was a batman? Christian Bale? He 861 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 5: lost a ton of weight. 862 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 1: And then he had to gain a ton of weight 863 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 1: like for the w movie, he had to gain a 864 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 1: ton of weight. Who's the guy? Thank you? Yes, you 865 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 1: knew who I was gonna say, the whale guy. Yeah, 866 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,399 Speaker 1: by the way, great underrated Brendan Fraser movie. Blasts from 867 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:22,840 Speaker 1: the past. 868 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 5: Oh, Christopher Walken, that's right. Is the old man Brendan 869 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 5: Fraser born in Indianapolis. 870 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: That's right. Very he was here very briefly. Yes, yes, Hey, 871 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,839 Speaker 1: what what's gonna be up this efternoon? What are we doing? Oh, 872 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 1: it's a make good day. So we were off yesterday. 873 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,280 Speaker 5: So it's gonna be Tuesday Gun Day with Guy Ralpher Today, 874 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 5: Tuesday Gun Day, we'll do some caller roulette and Trump's 875 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 5: got some big announcement at two o'clock. 876 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:45,479 Speaker 1: We'll keep an eye on it, all right. 877 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 2: Thanks Sammer. It is Kendilly Casey on ninety three WYBC.