WEBVTT - 7-22-26: More CMS News

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<v Speaker 1>Hi Oh, Let's go hi Oh, Let's go oh, Let's

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<v Speaker 2>One O seven point nine FM, Double BT. My name

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<v Speaker 2>is Brett Jensen, and you are listening to this Wednesday

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<v Speaker 2>night edition of Breaking with Brett Jensen. As always, we

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<v Speaker 2>are going to go up until seven o'clock tonight, seven

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<v Speaker 2>letters and breaking news in and around the Charlotte area,

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<v Speaker 2>and we've got a lot of different things we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get into tonight. Victoria Wallington put out a video and

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<v Speaker 2>so we're gonna break it break down her video about

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<v Speaker 2>the I seventy seven toilines. We're gonna break it, break

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<v Speaker 2>it down, but we're gonna start off tonight was CMS

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<v Speaker 2>and doctor Crystal Hill and the school board. Crystal Hill

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<v Speaker 2>is the superintendent for those of you who do not

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<v Speaker 2>know or those of you who do not live in

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<v Speaker 2>Mclimburg County.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's.

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<v Speaker 2>The school board met today around four o'clock in a

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<v Speaker 2>closed session. But I would probably be there right now

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<v Speaker 2>doing my show from the Government Center, waiting for them

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<v Speaker 2>to come out. But the closed session about Crystal Hill

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<v Speaker 2>was done virtually, So that's why your boy is sitting

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<v Speaker 2>in the studio right now. Otherwise I would be doing

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<v Speaker 2>this show live from the Government Center right now, waiting

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<v Speaker 2>on the school board to come out if let's say

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<v Speaker 2>they came out at five point thirty, and then trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get people to talk and maybe I could get

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<v Speaker 2>back to the studio in time. I don't, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it just depends because this Government Center is like eight

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<v Speaker 2>minutes from here. So but yes, that is that's what

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<v Speaker 2>I would have been doing. But here's the thing. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot going on, and like I was on with

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<v Speaker 2>Vince Cokeley this morning, and Vince Cokeley asked me what

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<v Speaker 2>I thought was gonna happen to Crystal Hill. And by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, you need to listen because I've got some

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<v Speaker 2>breaking news for you that you will not hear anywhere

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<v Speaker 2>else concerning CMS and how a major, major person in

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<v Speaker 2>the hierarchy of Crystal Hill has resigned. And from what

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<v Speaker 2>I've been told, does it have anything out there? Meaning

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<v Speaker 2>you're resigning without having something else set up?

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<v Speaker 3>So we'll get into that in a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, just for the record, found out about

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<v Speaker 2>this last week like around as a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 2>the day it happened. So anyways, we'll get into that momentarily.

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<v Speaker 2>So Vince Quackley asked me this morning on a show

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<v Speaker 2>at today M what I thought was going to happen

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<v Speaker 2>to Crystal Hill, and I said, without question, I am

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<v Speaker 2>ninety nine percent positive she has served her last days

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<v Speaker 2>as active superintendent with CMS. Granted, she's still getting paid

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<v Speaker 2>while on suspension, suspended with pay. That is the goal

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<v Speaker 2>of every human in America. Don't work, get full pay,

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<v Speaker 2>suspended with pay.

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<v Speaker 4>That is the goal of every American, not fired with

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<v Speaker 4>a severance, not vacation, suspended with pay. We should all

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<v Speaker 4>be so lucky getting a full paycheck without having to

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<v Speaker 4>do a damn thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyways, the fact that she was suspended with pay

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<v Speaker 2>and is currently suspended with pay, and by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>got a big fat pay raise retroactive while being suspended

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<v Speaker 2>with pain. But here's the thing, here's why Crystal Hill

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<v Speaker 2>I believe has served her last day as acting superintendent

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<v Speaker 2>because she is not acting superintendent.

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<v Speaker 3>That is Melissa Balkknight, one of her.

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<v Speaker 2>BFFs that I'm not even joking like I am being

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<v Speaker 2>dead serious. Came in from Gaston County, and I can

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<v Speaker 2>tell you a lot of people from Gaston County are going,

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<v Speaker 2>thank god she's not here anymore. She can go CMS

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<v Speaker 2>and ruined CMS. There are a lot of people that

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<v Speaker 2>I spoke to in Gaston County that we're happy Melissa

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<v Speaker 2>Bultmate came along with her BFF or as they call

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<v Speaker 2>it in the Central Office CMS, Central Office FOC.

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<v Speaker 3>Friends of Crystal.

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<v Speaker 2>FOC and then the NCAA and T mafia. Those are

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<v Speaker 2>the two terms. If you went to NCAT or you're

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<v Speaker 2>a FOC, you got a good chance of getting hired

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<v Speaker 2>and a good chance of making two hundred thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>a year. And by the way, we'll just create a

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<v Speaker 2>position for you and give you two hundred thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>a year. So anyways, here's why I believe she has

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<v Speaker 2>served her last day as acting superintendent. You have suspended

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<v Speaker 2>her with pay. That means, as a board, you believe

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<v Speaker 2>she has done something wrong. There is an investigation by

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<v Speaker 2>a law firm trying to figure out what has happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's what I've been told by my multiple sources, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think you guys know by now over these lasts

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<v Speaker 2>that started in September tenth, twenty eighteen, nearly eight years,

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<v Speaker 2>there is not a single soul in Mecclnberg County that

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<v Speaker 2>has more CMS sources than I do. There's a reason

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<v Speaker 2>why yours truly has broken the story of the last

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<v Speaker 2>three superintendent's getting fired. Even though the school board comes

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<v Speaker 2>and goes, everyone kept thinking it was all the people

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<v Speaker 2>on the school board telling me, see that's where you're wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>School board people come and go. It was never school

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<v Speaker 2>board people. Never was, never is schoolboard people you can

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<v Speaker 2>only count on for a certain amount of time before

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<v Speaker 2>they're gone.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to get people who are lifers.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyways, but with that being said, Christal Hill was

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<v Speaker 2>suspended with pay because the school believes that she has

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<v Speaker 2>done something wrong, whether it's the twenty something cars that

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<v Speaker 2>she's given out to all her focs and NCAA T

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<v Speaker 2>mafia again Friends of Crystal twenty two people making over

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred thousand dollars a year, while Wake County, a

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<v Speaker 2>bigger school system and by all accounts, a better school

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<v Speaker 2>system and a safer school system, only has three people

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<v Speaker 2>making over two hundred thousand dollars a year. So not

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<v Speaker 2>only are these people getting cars, they're all getting this

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<v Speaker 2>ridiculous amount of money, more money than they've ever made

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<v Speaker 2>in their entire lives, so that the retirement will be

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<v Speaker 2>padded and they can literally retire when they're fifty to

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<v Speaker 2>fifty five sixty and not have to worry about a thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So, now that the school board has suspended her with pay,

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<v Speaker 2>are you going to bring her back?

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<v Speaker 3>Of course not.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't because as a school board, especially Stephanie Snead

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<v Speaker 2>who buy most accounts, people believe that she has major,

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<v Speaker 2>much bigger political aspirations, whether it's mayor or to take

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<v Speaker 2>the place of Alma Adams. You've got major egg on

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<v Speaker 2>your face. And if you bring Crystal back, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what you've done. You've empowered her, You've emboldened her. Go

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<v Speaker 2>and see, told you, I haven't done anything wrong. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna keep doing what I'm doing, and you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, I might even double down on what I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like Oprah Winfrey.

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<v Speaker 2>You get a car, and you get a car, and

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<v Speaker 2>you get a car and you get a car. Right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So that's why she can't come back. You embolden her,

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<v Speaker 2>you empower her. And we're also by the way, she

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<v Speaker 2>has not been very effective.

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<v Speaker 3>How do we U say? How do you how can

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<v Speaker 3>you say that? Bright?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, she's had three different plans of organization in three

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<v Speaker 2>consecutive years. What quality leader has that? You know what,

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<v Speaker 2>here's my plan twelve months later. Man, this plan sucks.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's a new plan. Twelve months later. Man, this plan sucks.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's a new plan.

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<v Speaker 3>Three straight years.

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<v Speaker 2>She's done that completely change the structure and organization will

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<v Speaker 2>within the hierarchy of CMS. But you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this all goes back on the board. You get what

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<v Speaker 2>you pay for. You knew what you had in Ernest

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<v Speaker 2>Winston zero point zero experience state literally had you change

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<v Speaker 2>the rules in order it in for him to get

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<v Speaker 2>the job, literally change the rules, and you swore you'd

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<v Speaker 2>never make that mistake again, getting someone for the fourteenth

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<v Speaker 2>or seventeenth biggest district in the country with no experience.

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<v Speaker 3>Crystal Hill had zero point zero experience and was like.

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<v Speaker 2>Not exactly in charge of a lot of things at

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<v Speaker 2>Cobert's County Schools. From everything I was told that when

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<v Speaker 2>they made her like assistant superintendent or whatever it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was basically just to get her out of the way,

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<v Speaker 2>sort of like the vice president.

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<v Speaker 3>Just get out of the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Just stand to the side, stay out of the way,

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<v Speaker 2>go to the ribbon cuttings, go and like shake hands

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<v Speaker 2>at schools, shake the hands, kiss the babies.

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<v Speaker 3>So zero experience. So what she do. She brought in.

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<v Speaker 2>All her BFFs, the FOC friends of Crystal and ncat

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<v Speaker 2>went to NC andt here's a check, here's a check

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<v Speaker 2>Kelly Klutz, like her name was mud in Cabars County

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<v Speaker 2>and in charge of finances and now she's in charge

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<v Speaker 2>of finances here. And as I reported, that was a

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<v Speaker 2>disaster from the beginning. And I asked Crystal Hill about it,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's like, well, that's not accurate. And guess what,

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<v Speaker 2>it was one hundred percent accurate everything that reported about

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<v Speaker 2>all the people being fired or quitting just in that

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<v Speaker 2>finance department. I think at one point, I know it

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<v Speaker 2>was fourteen and I think it got up to eighteen.

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<v Speaker 2>So do I think Crystal Hill's coming back. No, But they,

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<v Speaker 2>from what I understand, they were just getting an update

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<v Speaker 2>on everything. But I will tell you this from all

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<v Speaker 2>my sources, that I have spoken to, and now I much

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<v Speaker 2>to say this earlier when I was talking about sources

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<v Speaker 2>that have a crued from all my sources, and there

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<v Speaker 2>are multiple, many more than anyone else in this city has.

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<v Speaker 2>They were doing the investigations, this law firm, investigating and

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<v Speaker 2>interviewing people, and it would be like me interviewing Lonnie

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<v Speaker 2>and then all of a sudden, Lonnie dropping something about

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<v Speaker 2>Travers and Bernie. Well, now I got to interview Travers

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<v Speaker 2>and Bernie and guess what. They start talking about Keith

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<v Speaker 2>Young and they start talking about Mark Garrison, and then

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<v Speaker 2>they start talking about Jim z Oki and things that

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<v Speaker 2>were going.

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<v Speaker 3>On crazy with that, and I so now I got.

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<v Speaker 2>To interview these three people, and they kept having to

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<v Speaker 2>go down this rabbit hole because it kept getting deeper

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<v Speaker 2>and deeper and deeper, and the more they investigated and

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<v Speaker 2>spoke to people.

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<v Speaker 3>The wider it got, the more people.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's what I've been told from day one that

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<v Speaker 2>has been going on that caught a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>off guard.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of people apparently.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a lot of things to say, especially people that

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<v Speaker 2>no longer work at seam as people that were either

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<v Speaker 2>fired or said I am.

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<v Speaker 3>Out so that's what I've been told. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>What the end result is or if and when a

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<v Speaker 2>decision will be made, no idea about that as I

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<v Speaker 2>talk to you right now, but I do have some

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<v Speaker 2>breaking news when we come back.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back to Breaking with Brod Johnson. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>how I follow that and keep it straight face, but

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<v Speaker 3>we'll try, Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>So.

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<v Speaker 2>Angela would Angela Wood is the chief Human Resource officer

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<v Speaker 2>for CMS. Multiple people last week told me that she

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<v Speaker 2>had resigned. Chief Human Resource Officer had resigned. She hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>been there that long, so you need to know that

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<v Speaker 2>she's only been there since December twenty twenty five. Prior

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<v Speaker 2>to that, she was the assistant I mean associates super

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<v Speaker 2>wide in her job since December twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to make sure I got that clear.

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<v Speaker 2>She was in her job as Chief Human Resource Officer

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<v Speaker 2>at CMS since December twenty twenty five. Prior to that,

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<v Speaker 2>she was the Associate Superintendent of human Resources at CMS

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<v Speaker 2>from starting in July twenty twenty three. Prior to that,

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<v Speaker 2>she was the assistant superintendent of human Resources at Stanley

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<v Speaker 2>County Schools It's ALBUMARO then. Prior to that human resources

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<v Speaker 2>director at Union County Schools. She was only there, not

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<v Speaker 2>even a year. She was only at She was only

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<v Speaker 2>at Stanley County Schools for exactly one year, human resource

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<v Speaker 2>director at Cabert's County Schools for a few months, just

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<v Speaker 2>a few months from April to October, and then human

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<v Speaker 2>resource coordinator at Cambart's County school is part of that

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<v Speaker 2>for six years from twenty fifteen to twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 2>And prior to that, she was an assistant principal in

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<v Speaker 2>Cabert's County Schools for twelve or for two years.

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<v Speaker 3>From twenty thirteen to twenty fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>So she was a friend of Crystal's FOC. That's literally

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<v Speaker 2>what they call them in Central Office at the CMS headquarters.

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<v Speaker 2>They say, oh, that's at FOC, friends of Crystal. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>that's part of the NCAA and T mafia. That's not

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<v Speaker 2>my words. These are words coming from people from within

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<v Speaker 2>the main office at CMS, the headquarters. These are my words.

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<v Speaker 2>These are the people who work there. This is what

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<v Speaker 2>they're saying. So usually when you leave at that position,

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<v Speaker 2>you say, like if I resigned tomorrow, said hey, I've

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<v Speaker 2>accepted a job with like I went I decided to

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<v Speaker 2>go back to Fox Sports dot Com and you turn

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<v Speaker 2>in your resignation.

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<v Speaker 3>I am accepting.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm turning in my resignation because I've accepted a job wherever.

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<v Speaker 2>Right from my understanding, Angela Wood did not do that.

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<v Speaker 2>She just said, see, you wouldn't want to be and

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<v Speaker 2>then she gave six weeks notice. But again an foc

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<v Speaker 2>Now there's a lot of speculation as to why she's leaving.

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<v Speaker 2>Is are you leaving quitting as opposed to being fired?

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<v Speaker 2>Because you know, let's be honest, I have no idea,

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<v Speaker 2>but we know how this works in the world of business.

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<v Speaker 3>Lonnie. Would you rather be fired or would you rather quit?

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<v Speaker 2>And there's especially at that level when you're making over

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred thousand dollars a year.

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<v Speaker 3>Would you rather be fired or would you rather quit? Quit? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely? You know why because you don't want on

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<v Speaker 2>your resume that you are fired. Because when they call

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<v Speaker 2>human resources, they can say, oh, she was fired.

0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:35.320
<v Speaker 3>I think they can say that. I know there's some

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<v Speaker 3>kind of things of what you can and can't say

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<v Speaker 3>with human resources.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, some people say, oh, no, you're going to have

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<v Speaker 2>to fire me, because if you get fired, then you

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<v Speaker 2>get to collect unemployment. But at that level, unemployment's are

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<v Speaker 2>relevant when you're making two twenty five a year. If

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<v Speaker 2>you haven't saved up and you're making two twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>a year, If you're making twenty thousand dollars a year

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<v Speaker 2>or a month and you can't survive, you got a problem,

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<v Speaker 2>at least in short term, you got a problem. So

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<v Speaker 2>Angela would chief human resources officer from everything that I

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<v Speaker 2>was told, turned it in her resignation last week and

0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:20.440
<v Speaker 2>it was this gave a six week notice. That's that's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty telling. Is it purely coincidental? While all this stuff

0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:27.320
<v Speaker 2>was going on with Crystal and you talk about all

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<v Speaker 2>these cars and all these contracts and everything else.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>And someone like Kelly Klutz is she is she gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have to resign for the second time in her tenure

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<v Speaker 2>being the chief financial officer of the school district.

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<v Speaker 3>She had to in compariss is she gonna have to

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<v Speaker 3>do it here? I don't know. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>How many of those people are still driving the cars

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<v Speaker 2>that they were given. There's a minimum twenty one or

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty one, but I was told was more or not.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyways, you're not gonna hear that info anywhere else

0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:11.639
<v Speaker 2>in this city. Again, these are all coming from people

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<v Speaker 2>very familiar with the situation that told me all this

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<v Speaker 2>last week and then again today. So I just wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to pass that along for you. When I find out

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<v Speaker 2>you find out, welcome back to breaking with Brad.

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<v Speaker 3>Jensipers to go up until seven o'clock and then TJ

0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:30.520
<v Speaker 3>and the Bear Richie will take you from seven to nine.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>So, Charlotte City Council Member Victoria Wallington put out a

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<v Speaker 2>video on Facebook where she discusses the ice seventy seven tolanes.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, I will tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>She is highly educated, exceptionally educated. That doesn't mean that

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<v Speaker 2>she's right on things. That doesn't mean that she's woke

0:18:57.920 --> 0:19:05.120
<v Speaker 2>or conservative or whatever. But it just means that she's educated.

0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:07.480
<v Speaker 2>But again, it doesn't mean that she's right. Just means

0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:16.480
<v Speaker 2>that she's educated. And she's got her doctorate degree. And

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<v Speaker 2>the thing is is that you know, she went University

0:19:23.720 --> 0:19:30.480
<v Speaker 2>of Florida, got a mechanical engineering degree, got a Master's

0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:35.159
<v Speaker 2>of Science from UNC Charlotte and Engineering, and she also

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<v Speaker 2>got a infrastructure or doctorate in infrastructure and environmental systems,

0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:45.240
<v Speaker 2>economic mobility and stuff like that and a graduate certificate

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<v Speaker 2>in public policy research and analysis.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, so then now you know her background.

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<v Speaker 2>She put out this video about the I seventy seven

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<v Speaker 2>tollis so what we're going to do is we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to analyze this video or audio video.

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<v Speaker 3>But I just took the audio of the video.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, again, we're still talking about seventy seven. Sadly, yes, me,

0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:10.440
<v Speaker 5>I'm an engineer, a policy researcher, and an elected official.

0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:12.720
<v Speaker 5>My child's not to have all the answers, but it

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<v Speaker 5>is to ask the right question. I help lead the

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<v Speaker 5>vote to recind seventy seven South. Not because I'm against

0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:22.719
<v Speaker 5>mobility investment. I'm not, but because as an engineer, I

0:20:22.760 --> 0:20:24.800
<v Speaker 5>just couldn't get a straight answer on what problem we

0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:25.760
<v Speaker 5>were actually solving.

0:20:27.440 --> 0:20:31.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay, what problem we're actually solving. They have done all

0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:35.960
<v Speaker 2>these studies, and unless I have my information wrong, I

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<v Speaker 2>believe it's nine of the top ten most congested areas

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<v Speaker 2>in the state of North Carolina, or on I seventy

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<v Speaker 2>seven between Carolin's Boulevard and Uptown.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's right. And if it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>That it's damn close to nine out of the top

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<v Speaker 2>ten in the entire state.

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<v Speaker 3>Of North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's one thing widening the lanes. Because let me

0:20:58.080 --> 0:20:59.840
<v Speaker 2>tell you something. Every day that I come here to

0:20:59.840 --> 0:21:04.400
<v Speaker 2>the station across I'm on Wilkinson Boulevard to seventy seven

0:21:04.440 --> 0:21:07.399
<v Speaker 2>going into Wilkinson, I cross over ICE seventy seven, and

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<v Speaker 2>I looked to my left on I seventy seven where

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<v Speaker 2>Woodlawn goes into the exit ramp goes into seventy seven South.

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<v Speaker 3>It stopped at a dead stop.

0:21:17.520 --> 0:21:22.040
<v Speaker 2>Every single day, every single day, it's dead stopped like

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<v Speaker 2>nothing but bright red lights.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to solve is expanding it and giving more

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<v Speaker 2>writers more options.

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<v Speaker 3>As opposed to.

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<v Speaker 2>Being dead stuck in traffic and taken an hour to

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<v Speaker 2>get home if you live in South Charlotte.

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<v Speaker 5>And now here we go again, same project, same corridor,

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<v Speaker 5>same conversation. So my question isn't widen or don't widen?

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<v Speaker 5>My question is simply, what changed If I seventy seven

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<v Speaker 5>South failed the test before, what new analysis makes it pass?

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<v Speaker 3>Now? Okay, here's the new analysis.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason it failed before wasn't because they thought expanding

0:22:05.920 --> 0:22:09.080
<v Speaker 2>I seventy seven was a bad idea, engineering wise or

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<v Speaker 2>infrastructure wise.

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<v Speaker 3>Because it passed. It passed from the forget go, don't

0:22:15.520 --> 0:22:16.520
<v Speaker 3>forget this thing.

0:22:16.440 --> 0:22:21.200
<v Speaker 2>Passed, and that's why the NCDOT spent more than sixty

0:22:21.240 --> 0:22:26.320
<v Speaker 2>three million dollars. What changed, here's exactly what changed. They

0:22:26.400 --> 0:22:30.400
<v Speaker 2>turned it into a race issue. That's exactly what they did.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty nine houses. That's the number of houses impacted by this. Now,

0:22:36.320 --> 0:22:39.560
<v Speaker 2>some can say an entire neighborhood, and there's been history, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I get it. But I got news for you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not the only neighborhood that's ever been impacted by

0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:49.040
<v Speaker 2>a road being expanded in the city of Charlotte. How

0:22:49.040 --> 0:22:52.679
<v Speaker 2>about I seventy seven toll lanes from uptown all the

0:22:52.680 --> 0:22:55.080
<v Speaker 2>way to Davidson. So you tell me there were no

0:22:55.119 --> 0:23:02.560
<v Speaker 2>neighborhoods impacted all the way to Davidson. Okay, So here's

0:23:02.560 --> 0:23:06.119
<v Speaker 2>another thing. So they turned it into a race issue.

0:23:06.359 --> 0:23:10.399
<v Speaker 2>Even though your city council voted for this and everyone else,

0:23:11.560 --> 0:23:15.920
<v Speaker 2>they turned it into a race issue. And because there's

0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:22.399
<v Speaker 2>what one white person on city council, I think. I

0:23:22.400 --> 0:23:27.440
<v Speaker 2>think there's one white person at Driggs. I think everyone else,

0:23:27.480 --> 0:23:33.280
<v Speaker 2>whether it's Asian, Hispanic, or black, I think that makes

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<v Speaker 2>up the rest of the city.

0:23:35.280 --> 0:23:37.040
<v Speaker 3>Council.

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<v Speaker 2>So with that being said, it was turned into a

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<v Speaker 2>race issue, not a people issue. Oh and you know

0:23:45.119 --> 0:23:48.840
<v Speaker 2>why they're also now revisiting this because the state just

0:23:48.880 --> 0:23:52.240
<v Speaker 2>passed a law on the budget that said, yeah, Charlotte,

0:23:52.440 --> 0:23:54.400
<v Speaker 2>you have to write back and check for sixty three

0:23:54.440 --> 0:23:56.840
<v Speaker 2>million dollars. And Cornelis is like, well, we can't afford that,

0:23:57.119 --> 0:23:59.600
<v Speaker 2>and Minhill's like we can't afford that, and Monroe's like

0:23:59.640 --> 0:24:02.439
<v Speaker 2>we can afford that. So all these small towns are like,

0:24:02.640 --> 0:24:05.480
<v Speaker 2>we can't afford that. We can't just struct a check.

0:24:06.640 --> 0:24:08.520
<v Speaker 2>So guess what, we're gonna vote for it, and we're

0:24:08.520 --> 0:24:12.719
<v Speaker 2>gonna put all the money on Matthews and Muckleburg County

0:24:13.359 --> 0:24:15.720
<v Speaker 2>and the city is Charlotte. You three are not going

0:24:15.760 --> 0:24:20.160
<v Speaker 2>to be responsible for having to pay this back. That's

0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:25.120
<v Speaker 2>what's changed. You voted for it. You turned it into

0:24:25.119 --> 0:24:29.479
<v Speaker 2>a race issue, NCDOT, and the state legislature said you

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<v Speaker 2>now have to pay back the sixty three million dollars

0:24:31.480 --> 0:24:32.840
<v Speaker 2>because you had initially voted for it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what's changed. Don't act like you don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>Because if the answer is, well, nothing changed, but the

0:24:39.400 --> 0:24:43.640
<v Speaker 5>pressure did. That's not a transportation decision that's a political one.

0:24:43.680 --> 0:24:45.080
<v Speaker 5>Wearing an engineering.

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<v Speaker 2>Costume political decision. No, No, turning it into a race issue.

0:24:50.960 --> 0:24:53.960
<v Speaker 2>You made it a political situation by turning it into

0:24:54.040 --> 0:24:56.439
<v Speaker 2>a race issue. And the city is Charlotte changing their

0:24:56.520 --> 0:25:00.600
<v Speaker 2>vote only because of race. That's why. That's how it

0:25:00.640 --> 0:25:02.920
<v Speaker 2>became political. You made it political.

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<v Speaker 5>Here's the thing that most people don't realize. This project

0:25:06.440 --> 0:25:13.000
<v Speaker 5>isn't one decision, it's two. First, is the widening itself justified? Second,

0:25:13.480 --> 0:25:15.359
<v Speaker 5>if it is, how do we make sure that the

0:25:15.359 --> 0:25:18.240
<v Speaker 5>neighborhoods along that corridor actually sharing that benefit?

0:25:19.480 --> 0:25:24.680
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's justified. Simple, it's purely justified. It's twenty nine

0:25:24.680 --> 0:25:26.919
<v Speaker 2>homes that owe. Those twenty nine homes, many are not

0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:29.600
<v Speaker 2>owned by the people that live there. They just rent,

0:25:29.680 --> 0:25:33.719
<v Speaker 2>They don't even own the homes. Number two, the fact

0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:35.919
<v Speaker 2>that people are now going to be able to get

0:25:35.960 --> 0:25:40.359
<v Speaker 2>around and go from point A to point B without

0:25:40.359 --> 0:25:41.800
<v Speaker 2>having to deal with it. And how are the neighborhood that's

0:25:41.800 --> 0:25:44.080
<v Speaker 2>going to benefit. Oh, I think it's like seventy five

0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:47.080
<v Speaker 2>million dollars. The state is committed to invest in those neighborhoods,

0:25:47.200 --> 0:25:49.160
<v Speaker 2>seventy five million dollars that you will now not get

0:25:49.200 --> 0:25:50.159
<v Speaker 2>a single penny.

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<v Speaker 5>Of those are two separate questions with separate answers, and

0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:56.240
<v Speaker 5>right now we're being asked to say yes to both

0:25:56.240 --> 0:25:58.920
<v Speaker 5>at once without proof of either. A family making fifty

0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:01.760
<v Speaker 5>thousand dollars a year doesn't care about interchange design. They

0:26:01.800 --> 0:26:04.119
<v Speaker 5>care about whether they can actually afford the toll lane

0:26:04.240 --> 0:26:05.879
<v Speaker 5>and whether they're the bus that actually gets them to

0:26:05.920 --> 0:26:08.800
<v Speaker 5>work on time. If we can't answer that, we haven't

0:26:08.840 --> 0:26:09.800
<v Speaker 5>done the analysis.

0:26:10.720 --> 0:26:11.920
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So.

0:26:13.560 --> 0:26:16.280
<v Speaker 2>If you're taking a bus to work, you're not worrying

0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:20.880
<v Speaker 2>about the toll lanes. That doesn't make sense. If you're

0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:23.399
<v Speaker 2>taking the bus to work, you don't care about the

0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:27.280
<v Speaker 2>toll lanes. And by the way, that we do have

0:26:27.359 --> 0:26:29.280
<v Speaker 2>these things called bus express lanes, don't we.

0:26:30.920 --> 0:26:35.600
<v Speaker 3>Right then we got those? Okay, just asking asking for

0:26:35.640 --> 0:26:38.680
<v Speaker 3>a friend. We've done the announcement. So here's what I'm

0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:39.120
<v Speaker 3>asking for.

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<v Speaker 5>Plainly, show the marginal benefit of every mile, Show the

0:26:43.880 --> 0:26:46.919
<v Speaker 5>alternatives that will compare. Show me that the community get

0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:49.439
<v Speaker 5>something because the project earned it, not something to get

0:26:49.520 --> 0:26:50.359
<v Speaker 5>us to stop asking.

0:26:51.160 --> 0:26:53.600
<v Speaker 3>Okay, show you the benefits. I don't know.

0:26:53.680 --> 0:26:57.560
<v Speaker 2>Again, almost all of the top ten most congested areas

0:26:57.600 --> 0:26:59.040
<v Speaker 2>in the state of North Carolina are right there on

0:26:59.080 --> 0:27:04.320
<v Speaker 2>I seventy seven, between Caron's Boulevard and uptown. That's the

0:27:04.320 --> 0:27:08.600
<v Speaker 2>benefits expanding it and loosing it up. That's the benefits

0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:12.440
<v Speaker 2>this community getting seventy five million dollars invested into the community.

0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:13.680
<v Speaker 3>That's the benefits.

0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:16.879
<v Speaker 2>One hundred and sixty two thousand cars a day go

0:27:17.200 --> 0:27:21.280
<v Speaker 2>in between that area Carolyn's Boulevard and uptown, So you're

0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:24.800
<v Speaker 2>sacrificing one hundred and sixty two thousand people of cars.

0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:27.680
<v Speaker 2>More than that people wise, one hundred and sixty two

0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:31.840
<v Speaker 2>thousand cars a day for twenty nine houses, many of

0:27:31.880 --> 0:27:34.040
<v Speaker 2>which are not even owned by the people that live there.

0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:36.320
<v Speaker 5>Not a payoff to certain leaders to get them to

0:27:36.400 --> 0:27:39.440
<v Speaker 5>change a position. I'm not a posed to investment. I'm

0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:42.160
<v Speaker 5>opposed to skipping the homework. And here's what nobody else

0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:42.920
<v Speaker 5>has put on the table.

0:27:43.119 --> 0:27:44.200
<v Speaker 3>It's seven months of this fight.

0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:47.720
<v Speaker 5>Nobody has proposed an actual path pasting, just pressure, just

0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:50.240
<v Speaker 5>the deadline, just reverse your voter pay us that well,

0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:53.160
<v Speaker 5>the same legislation creating that threat also creates the off ramp.

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<v Speaker 5>NCDOT can determine that our decision was a legitimate act

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<v Speaker 5>by a duly constituted board not unilateral, and if they

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<v Speaker 5>make that finding that arbitrary ninety day deadline, it disappears

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<v Speaker 5>and we get to do exactly what everyone claims they want,

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<v Speaker 5>the real network analysis on its own timeline, not a

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<v Speaker 5>manufactured want, and this isn't theoretical. We've already funded UNC

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<v Speaker 5>Charlotte to help design the updated regional model that makes

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<v Speaker 5>that analysis possible. The groundwork is already in motion, but

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<v Speaker 5>we need ncdot's partnership to upgrade our transportation and planning

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<v Speaker 5>tools so we can stop having these conversations and.

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<v Speaker 3>Start seeing better outcomes.

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<v Speaker 5>Nobody demanding we reverse course has offered that sequence, but

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<v Speaker 5>I am because it's the only version of this that

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<v Speaker 5>isn't just round two of the same sight.

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<v Speaker 3>So, mister governor, are you with us?

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, I can go ahead and tell you from sources

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<v Speaker 2>close to the situation, No, he's not the governor. What's

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<v Speaker 2>I seventy seven tollin's expanded, So my sources are telling me,

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<v Speaker 2>and again, you're sacrificing one hundred and sixty two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>cars a day for twenty nine homes, many of which

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<v Speaker 2>are not owned by the people that live there. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's not the same thing and by the way, this

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<v Speaker 2>was a state law that was put.

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<v Speaker 3>Into the budget.

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<v Speaker 2>NCUDT ncdut no, no, no, no, you have to pay

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<v Speaker 2>it back period as you should.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back to breaking with Fred Jefson. I've got a

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<v Speaker 3>vowel totally ninety seconds or so, so real quick.

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<v Speaker 2>The House not long ago up in DC passed a

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<v Speaker 2>law that basically said no more insider trading. Even some

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats got on board, which now means Nancy Pelosi's gravy

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<v Speaker 2>train has immediately stopped. Doesn't matter because she's been doing

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<v Speaker 2>it for thirty forty years and she's damn near a billionaire.

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<v Speaker 2>When you outperform by like tenfold the top investment firms

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<v Speaker 2>in the entire country, you think that's by coincidence and

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<v Speaker 2>pure luck and just the fact that she's a genius.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. I don't think so so anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>but the House did pass that earlier today, so again, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's that's good. I know a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>in the House were I have been using that for

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<v Speaker 2>a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>It's expensive to live in DC A little ex day,

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<v Speaker 3>come don't r. So hopefully I'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Be able to speak to a couple of congressmen later

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<v Speaker 2>this week, tomorrow or Friday about that very vote, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know the situation going on and around. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>everyone that's gonna do it for us tonight. I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>little upset Lonnie's not playing TJ and the Bear music,

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<v Speaker 2>my theme music every day. I told you, well, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to do this every day leading into TJ.

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<v Speaker 3>TJ Ritchie.

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<v Speaker 2>So but anyways, so TJ, you got a reprieve for today,

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<v Speaker 2>My man, you gotta reprieve.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll start back up tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, everyone, my name is Brett Jensen, and you've

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<v Speaker 2>been listening to Breaking with Brett Jensen.

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<v Speaker 4>TJ.

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<v Speaker 3>Richie's coming up next