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Speaker 1: Old Forester Bourbon and Barbecue. Well, of course we left

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Speaker 1: the studio for that. We're not crazy people see Drink Smoke.

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Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz, and that right there is America's favorite

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Speaker 1: amateur drinker.

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Speaker 2: Fingers molloy. What are we sipping up?

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Speaker 3: We're sitting on the eighteen seventy one, eighteen ninety seven, we're.

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Speaker 1: Sipping on the eighteen ninety seven. That is not a

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Speaker 1: new member of Eat Drink Smoke. That's Madison Trackiser from

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Speaker 1: Old Forrester who met us out here Big Hoffin's Barbecue

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Speaker 1: in Westfield, Indiana.

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Speaker 2: We're having this big event. We got over one hundred

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Speaker 2: people in here making a lot of.

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Speaker 1: Noise, and we want to come out and try some

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Speaker 1: some brisket.

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Speaker 2: And we're we're halfway through.

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Speaker 4: This pan, and then we're gonna get another pan, and

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Speaker 4: then after that we're gonna have some more.

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Speaker 2: That's right. We eat our brisket by the pan and

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Speaker 2: Fingers molloy.

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Speaker 1: And Madison, we're talking Old Forrester as we're having the

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Speaker 1: eighteen ninety eight, eighteen ninety eight, why can't.

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Speaker 2: We get it away? But not this?

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Speaker 1: So we were talking about this, this Whiskey Rose series

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Speaker 1: but you know, I brought up earlier that Old Foresters

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Speaker 2: Be a name that everybody should know.

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Speaker 4: And because it's a name that everybody should know, I

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Speaker 4: think it's a name that some people push away from.

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Speaker 4: No no, no, that's not cool. No no no, that's not hey.

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Speaker 2: No no no, that's old school. We often talked about how certain.

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Speaker 1: Things need to be in the liquor cabinet, like old

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Speaker 1: Granddad won fourteen. It's a must in your liquor cabinet

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Speaker 1: for price, for the hit, for.

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Speaker 2: Everything else that's in there.

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Speaker 1: How do you describe Old Forester bourbons versus what's out

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Speaker 1: on the scene now?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, I think that this brand is just dipped in history.

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Speaker 5: I mean, we have a whole whiskey row series just

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Speaker 5: talking about the years in the history of Old Forester,

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Speaker 5: and it comes with a story itself.

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Speaker 6: So people love to hear it.

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Speaker 5: They love to sip on something that they know has

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Speaker 5: integrity and value and quality. And so I think that's

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Speaker 5: what separates UH the at least the Whiskey Roast series

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Speaker 5: apart from everything else.

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Speaker 6: And then we have our.

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Speaker 5: Core products as well, our eighty six proof, our hundred proof.

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Speaker 5: Our Rye is a new addition to the core, and

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Speaker 5: it is there are more so for you know, your

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Speaker 5: everyday cocktails, your old fashions. If you're making one at home,

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Speaker 5: you need eighty six proof. If you're not really feeling

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Speaker 5: to to like you didn't really have that bad of

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Speaker 5: a day, that's what you go for. But I think

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Speaker 5: that the Whiskey ROAs series specifically is what gives old

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Speaker 5: horseters such a push in the industry.

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Speaker 7: Let me ask you something about customers. You know bourbon

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Speaker 7: drinkers are very passionate. What is something that bourbon drinkers

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Speaker 7: obsess about that you think maybe is something that isn't

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Speaker 3: Oh man, you're gonna hate me for this. I think

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Speaker 3: it's high proof.

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Speaker 2: As if she knew who she was talking to.

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Speaker 6: I I understand the high proof thing.

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Speaker 2: But yes, I think there d put it out. You

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Speaker 2: know what, I'll just exactly.

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Speaker 5: I don't think that it's a I don't know personally,

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Speaker 5: I'm getting heartburn if I'm drinking something to you high proof.

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Speaker 6: An old forester gets up there.

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Speaker 5: You know, they have a barrel proof selection of a

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Speaker 5: personal selection within their barrel program. And I've seen barrels

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Speaker 5: that are up to one hundred and forty proof. It's

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Speaker 5: crazy and that's just not one hundred percent my jam.

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Speaker 5: But I know that that's a huge push in the

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Speaker 5: bourbon industry. But it's also it doesn't matter what I think,

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Speaker 5: it matter who's what you the person who's drinking the alcohol.

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Speaker 7: Things well as speaking as a guy that's six three three.

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Speaker 2: Pounds, you look great.

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Speaker 7: Sometimes the lower new hoodie, the lower proof bourbon can

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Speaker 7: hit me like bourbon flavored chnops.

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Speaker 6: Okay, So yeah, absolutely I like.

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Speaker 7: To sometimes delve into the higher proof.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, I don't think I I I do agree that

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Speaker 5: I think that some maybe eighty proof bourbon can come

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Speaker 5: through in my cocktail for sure. I don't want it

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Speaker 5: everything else. But I think like when you get up

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Speaker 7: What's the most surprising place you've seen Old Forester?

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Speaker 3: I would be surprised if I didn't see Old Forester anywhere.

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Speaker 2: Good.

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Speaker 7: Wow, What can I do to put you in this

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Speaker 2: How you get the job?

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Speaker 1: Talking about Aison Jackson of old forester. I'm saying you're

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great line.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 4: I think it was interesting that my question didn't get answered,

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Speaker 4: but rabit got dismissed.

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Speaker 2: You think I'm wrong in.

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Speaker 1: The approach when i'm I think that people view the brand.

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Speaker 2: I think it's true spo and they view the brand

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Speaker 2: and they say.

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Speaker 1: That was then, or it's something that isn't marketed slick,

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Speaker 1: or is it talked about by name the site or

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Speaker 4: Therefore it kind of gets moved down. So how do

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Speaker 4: you with a brand that has a history and heritage?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you compete against a world of Instagram marketing?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I think it's all about the quality honestly. I mean,

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Speaker 5: you taste the juice and his quality juice.

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Speaker 6: And I'm not gonna.

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Speaker 3: Ask you to rank your favorite bourbons and bourbons here

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Speaker 3: in front of me.

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Speaker 2: But we just did that. Oh okay, just did that.

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Speaker 1: Our top three bourbons, our top three cigars. You can

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Speaker 1: find those at ecrigsmokeshow dot com wherever it is you

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Speaker 1: get the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you should.

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Speaker 1: Uh and uh my top bourbon was a rum his

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Speaker 5: All right, I think, But going back to your question,

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Speaker 5: I do think it is about a lot of quality,

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Speaker 5: They don't want to taste something like oh God, I'm

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Speaker 3: I don't have to buy this bottle.

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Speaker 5: I think Old Forester really corners the market in the

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Speaker 6: It's not a high rye, but having that.

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Speaker 5: Higher rye in the Mashville giving it that spice, that

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Speaker 5: signature spice that it's got. I don't get a ton

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Speaker 5: I'm not one of those. But there's there's just so

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Speaker 5: many history and story things that I think really pushes

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Speaker 5: at some point, like this brand has been around for

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Speaker 5: a long time, so like pushing it into the market

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Speaker 5: a challenge, but I think if we can show that

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Speaker 7: What's the difference in how bourbon drinkers talk online versus

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Speaker 6: That's a good I don't really know. I don't listen

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Speaker 5: I have to as a true gen z, I uh

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Speaker 5: So I don't get sucked into it because I've got

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Speaker 5: lot of bourbon content online, So I don't know that

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Speaker 5: are picking out notes that maybe somebody else suggested. The

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Speaker 5: power of suggestion is huge with the product.

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Speaker 6: With with.

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Speaker 2: All the time.

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Speaker 7: As far as you know, we respect everybody out there

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Speaker 7: doing bourbon reviews. But sometimes we'll see reviews and we'll

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Speaker 7: be like, oh, come on, yeah, you really pick that out?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do you notice that as well? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: A little bit.

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Speaker 5: You put one word out there and then it's just

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Speaker 6: So I can see that.

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Speaker 4: So you agree that most people are full of craft

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, the bush masin.

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Speaker 1: Traviser Old Forrester, Uh. You can find it at your

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Speaker 1: favorite liquor store. We're doing the eighteen ninety seven right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, it's good to only.

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Speaker 2: Took five tries right there. We're gonna keep drinking.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna keep eating brisket here Big Hofa's Barbecue in Westfield, Indiana.

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Speaker 1: We talk often about the business and how tough things

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Speaker 1: have been where this economy is at, and how people

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Speaker 1: have changed their powder. That's very real. When we talk

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Speaker 1: we talk about food, it's eat, drink smoke. I'm Tony

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Speaker 1: katz Well fingers Maloy is grabbing some food right now,

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Speaker 1: because we are a Big Hopas Barbecue in Indianapolis, Indiana,

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Speaker 2: Big Hop himself.

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Speaker 1: That is Adam Hoffman right there, Big Hopas Barbecue. I

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Speaker 1: actually have a platter right here of one of their

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Speaker 1: best sellers which is called the Hoffinator.

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Speaker 2: Really quick, what is the Hoppinator.

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Speaker 9: It's a loaded fries top with bake beans, bac and cheese,

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Speaker 9: pull pork, barbecue sauce, ranch dressing, and house may seasonings.

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Speaker 4: So before anything, while I eat this, your it's it's

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Speaker 4: all barbecue.

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Speaker 2: You do it all here.

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Speaker 4: The brisket is spectacular, but it's a Your menu items

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Speaker 4: aren't typical because in my world this is basically a

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Speaker 4: Southwest routine at some stage of the game. And you're

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Speaker 4: a California guy. How does does this get on the menu?

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Speaker 9: We took a bold move by creating these menu items

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Speaker 9: a long time ago. We still have the traditional barbecue,

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Speaker 9: the ribs, the brisket, the pork, the chicken, but we

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Speaker 8: And this started twenty three years ago.

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Speaker 9: We started creating these crazy menu items and people over

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Speaker 9: each one of them turned out wonderful, So people love them.

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Speaker 2: Crazy menu items coming from a place?

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Speaker 8: Here and just wanted to do something different.

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Speaker 4: Barbecue, and you know, we wrote the book Let's Go

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Speaker 9: Yes, everything, all of it, everything, all of it. They

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Speaker 2: Your brisket.

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Speaker 8: And then this is seasoning. You create your own blend.

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Speaker 8: Oh that doesn't work, Oh this doesn't work, or this

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Speaker 9: And after thirty years of doing it, we've we've gotten

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Speaker 9: Too much fat, it's not being able to smoke, cannot penetrate,

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Speaker 9: You've got that crust and it's taking so long for

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Speaker 8: So you're trimming it correctly.

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Speaker 9: You just want a small little layer of that of

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Speaker 8: That's another reason why.

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Speaker 8: Want it to cook evenly.

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Speaker 9: You want you know, there's obviously bigger parts of the brisket,

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Speaker 8: And there's other tricks that you've you know, you lose

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Speaker 9: It's some people spray with vinegar and rub it with mustard.

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Speaker 8: Everybody has their way of doing it.

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Speaker 9: I mean, we we've done it before, but we use

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Speaker 8: And there's a lot of things that go into it.

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Speaker 9: Everybody that's tried to brisket at home, they know how

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Speaker 2: How many seats are you.

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Speaker 9: Total in the whole restaurant with outdoor seating, Almost.

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Speaker 9: A day, About fifty to sixty briskets a day.

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Speaker 9: That's the hard part, right with any restaurant's consistency. You

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Speaker 9: is uniform right. We take this brisket off, we feel it,

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Speaker 9: The hard part is keeping it consistent. It's making all

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Speaker 9: make a great brisket. Anybody can make a brisket better

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Speaker 9: than me one brisket, but can you do four hundred

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Speaker 4: That's the hard part, not asking about your business, but

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Speaker 2: How is business?

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's brisket is not a cheap thing to sell,

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Speaker 2: How is it? What is going on out there?

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Speaker 8: Bit briskets.

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Speaker 9: It's definitely a higher price right now than any time

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Speaker 8: Brisket sales are good. Work sales are good.

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Speaker 9: For January, we've been really busy and we're having great

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Speaker 4: That's Adam Hoffman right there from Big Hopa's Barbecue.

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Speaker 2: Good Man, good people.

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Speaker 1: There are things that I don't understand in this world,

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Speaker 2: Fingers Maloy.

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Speaker 1: You can imagine how weird the thing will be if

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Speaker 2: From Fingers Maloy. That's hurtful. It's he drink smoke.

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Speaker 2: We are live on the.

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Speaker 1: Scene, actually coming to you from Big Hoffa's Barbecue in Westfield, Indiana,

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Speaker 1: Big Old Forester Night and they're put it together with

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we could show up for that. And that's where

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Speaker 4: So the NFL season ended, the playoffs began, and the

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Speaker 7: Well, we can start with Pittsburgh because that's the freshest

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Speaker 7: Because there's a ridiculous amount of openings and the NFL

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Speaker 7: I know, personally, if I were going to start an

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Speaker 4: I should be the first pick as head coach. I

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Speaker 7: a little bit of failure along the way, lets you

444
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Speaker 7: try to work through it to see if things will

445
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,440
Speaker 7: work out. And they, you know, go really deep into

446
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Speaker 7: the interview process to make sure they find the right

447
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 7: person because they're not one of these franchises that will

448
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Speaker 7: hire a guy and then fire him one year or

449
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Speaker 7: two years later. So it's gonna be interesting to see

450
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Speaker 7: how this unfolds. Because many people have said well, he's

451
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,640
Speaker 7: aiming for another gig. Well, he apparently told the Rooney's

452
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Speaker 7: he's not interested in another gig. And even if he is,

453
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Speaker 7: he's under contract with the Steelers. So the Steelers would

454
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Speaker 7: most likely require some sort of compensation from another team

455
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Speaker 7: if he were to go to another team, because you know,

456
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Speaker 7: they work out some sort of draft capital or something

457
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:48,560
Speaker 7: like that in a trade. But listen, I and this

458
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Speaker 7: is a little bit with a Harbaugh two. It's a

459
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Speaker 7: what have you done for me lately?

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Speaker 4: League?

461
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Speaker 7: And it's not just the regular season is a success?

462
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Speaker 2: Is great?

463
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Speaker 7: Anymore? People want playoff wins, they want Super Bowl titles. Yeah,

464
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Speaker 7: and it's been a while for both coaches. You know,

465
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Speaker 7: Mike Tomlin has had a ridiculously regular season successful season

466
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Speaker 7: or six I think he has one season that was

467
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Speaker 7: a losing record. No zero seasons of a losing record. Yeah,

468
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Speaker 7: he rallied this year because it was kind of if

469
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Speaker 7: he at first and he was you know, he had

470
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Speaker 7: a winning season this year. Nineteen years never having a

471
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Speaker 7: losing record. I don't think you'll never see that again

472
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Speaker 7: in the NFL. It'll be lucky if you ever see

473
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Speaker 7: a coach stick around that long. So I it's it's

474
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Speaker 7: gonna be really tough, I think, And I can see

475
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Speaker 7: where Tomlin wouldn't come back unless those those competitive juices.

476
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Speaker 2: Just overtake him.

477
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Speaker 7: He's like, I gotta come back because you're never gonna

478
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Speaker 7: find another franchise as patient as the as the Pittsburgh Steelers.

479
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Speaker 4: So now we're here live at Big Hoffa's barbecue and

480
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 4: they're about to start talking about more old. You can

481
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 4: actually hear Madison talking about the All Farstar and lighting

482
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 4: the whole crowd know what's up. But this brings us

483
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Speaker 4: to the Jim Harbaugh conversation John Harbaugh, John Harper, John Harbaugh.

484
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 4: Jim Harbaugh played for the Colts and now coaches the Chargers.

485
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Speaker 4: That's correct, And they're already getting rid of people and

486
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Speaker 4: shedding people because of that tobacco, and they and the

487
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Speaker 4: end of the season and then playoffs, the Ravens say goodbye.

488
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Speaker 4: You're right. There are a tremendous number of head coach

489
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Speaker 4: openings this year. It's through the roof, but.

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Speaker 2: There isn't a tremendous number of head coaches.

491
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Speaker 4: So you have to make the analysis that you're gonna

492
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Speaker 4: be able to create a.

493
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Speaker 2: Better culture, a better world.

494
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Speaker 4: A better future without a guy who is a proven winner.

495
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Speaker 2: Walk me through it. You follow this league, you know

496
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Speaker 2: these people.

497
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Speaker 7: It's gonna be interesting to see how this whole thing

498
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Speaker 7: plays out, because right now John Harbaugh is kind of

499
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Speaker 7: sitting in the catbird seat. It feels like once that

500
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Speaker 7: domino falls, then the other this will start to be

501
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 7: filled and a lot of it will maybe retreads from

502
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Speaker 7: other organizations coaches that just got fired, like Sefanski out

503
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Speaker 7: of Cleveland, McDaniel out of Miami, which I hope for

504
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 7: my Detroit Lions isn't the case because they interviewed him

505
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 7: recently to be the offensive coordinator in Detroit. But there's

506
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 7: a ridiculous amount of openings and you know, you're seeing

507
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Speaker 7: even first year coordinators getting interviews for head coaching jobs,

508
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Speaker 7: which is something you never saw in the pastor if

509
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 7: you did, it was it's really uncommon. But with all

510
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Speaker 7: these openings, that's that's happening right now.

511
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Speaker 4: The you know, we often talk with the lack of

512
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Speaker 4: quarterbacks and being Indianapolis are we watched the Colts just

513
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 4: simply fall apart. You had to go back to Philip Rivers,

514
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 4: the guy at forty four years old. Now I don't

515
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 4: think he did poorly, but he certainly didn't do great.

516
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 4: And Riley Leonard in that last game did better than

517
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Speaker 4: I think anybody expected. So you might have interesting quarterback

518
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 4: situation going phone in next year with Daniel Jones and

519
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 4: Riley Leonard.

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Speaker 2: I think Anthony Richon's gonna get traded. I don't think

521
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 2: he'll actually be here. I don't know what you're gonna

522
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 2: get for him, but I don't know a sandwich. And

523
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Speaker 2: I'm not mad at the dude. It just didn't work.

524
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 2: The quarterbacks are hard to find, the coaches are hard

525
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Speaker 2: to find.

526
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Speaker 4: Your argument about or your point about the Steelers is

527
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Speaker 4: really interesting that you have to be willing to let

528
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Speaker 4: the coach build and grow and let these things come together.

529
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Speaker 4: Are you saying that.

530
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Speaker 2: Nobody's willing to do that anymore? Not anymore.

531
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Speaker 7: There's too much pressure from the outside, whether it's social

532
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 7: media pressure, media pressure in general, or the fact that

533
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 7: your season ticket holders are spending a ridiculous amount of

534
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 7: money for season tickets and they expect results quickly.

535
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Speaker 2: Results is one thing. Reality is another.

536
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 4: Reality is it takes time put systems into place where

537
00:25:55,920 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 4: not everybody's Kurt Signetti, By the way, the Iuosers, the

538
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 4: Miami Hurricanes National Championship.

539
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 2: We placed in our bets right now.

540
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Speaker 7: I will say this, Kurt Signetti, Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh kid, just

541
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Speaker 7: throwing that out there.

542
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Speaker 2: I think he's a little old. You are gonna get

543
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 2: people a heart attack. He's a little old.

544
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Speaker 7: I think that the Steelers are going to hire someone

545
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Speaker 7: to be able to hang on to for twenty years.

546
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Speaker 2: But uh oh, now he was gonna win, and but yeah,

547
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Speaker 2: I think I was gonna win as well. I certainly

548
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 2: hope they do. But I don't think SIG's even interested

549
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 2: in the pros.

550
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 4: And IU is paying him a boatload of cash, the

551
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 4: third highest paid coach in the in the college right now.

552
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 2: That's true, and I don't expect him to move.

553
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 7: But if you're a Pittsburgh kid and you grew up

554
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Speaker 7: a Pittsburgh Steeler fan.

555
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Speaker 4: Just just saying that is some gross roomor mongering that

556
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Speaker 4: Figers will awa assume that is some gross, mean, nasty stuff.

557
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Speaker 7: Probably fingers, but would never happen. Winky winky.

558
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 2: When he says winky winky, you know it might, it's not.

559
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Speaker 2: It's not happening. Fingers. Bulloy hit it big. Yeah, Well,

560
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: the man went to a casino and it all came

561
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 2: up aces with a kicker. Is that what they say? Yes?

562
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 2: Now I know see drink smoke. I'm Tony Katz.

563
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Speaker 1: That is fingers Bulloy find everything at EA Drinks Smoke

564
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Speaker 1: Show dot com. Alive here at Big Hopa's Barbecue, Westfield, Indiana,

565
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Speaker 1: where we've been enjoying the old forest or bourbon and

566
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: trying the barbecue and having all the talks. But you

567
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Speaker 1: you were recently and you've got this up at your site.

568
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 1: You recently hit the casino and and and on it.

569
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 1: Big Yes, but you you were gonna say, there's a

570
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: story and I haven't heard it yet.

571
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 2: Do you want to hear the whole thing?

572
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 7: Ah, listen, it's I only want to hear this quite

573
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 7: a tale. So, yeah, you said, I have it.

574
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 2: On my site. And I don't know if we've mentioned

575
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 2: these things.

576
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 7: Yeah, a fingersmoy dot COM's where you can see everything

577
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 7: that I write.

578
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 2: I've got Tony kats dot com. Okay, but the things

579
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 2: we do.

580
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: Here are non political, and that's eat drink smokeshow dot com.

581
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 2: Well, this is definitely not political.

582
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 7: So I decided on a weekday, random Wednesday, that I

583
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 7: was going to not go to my day gig, but

584
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 7: wake up.

585
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 2: I love it like I was going to my day gig.

586
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 7: And I, as you know, Tony, I get up at

587
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 7: two thirty in the morning, God bless you. Four thirty

588
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 7: in the morning, I said, Okay, you know what. You

589
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 7: know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go to the

590
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:42,239
Speaker 7: casino on a random Wednesday morning. So I decided to

591
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 7: take the drive to the local casino here, and I'm

592
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 7: fighting rush hour traffic to get there.

593
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 4: Tony, you don't go to work now, You're like, I've

594
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 4: seen enough of that place exactly.

595
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 2: You go to a casino, yes, And I'm so I'm there.

596
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 4: I am.

597
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 7: I'm getting ready to walk in before sunrise.

598
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 2: And this isn't one of those cool I was.

599
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 7: Up all night and Vegas said, and I'm the sun's

600
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 7: about the rise and I'm at the casino.

601
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 2: Stories.

602
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 7: This is a I fought rush hour traffic to drive

603
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 7: to my local casino.

604
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 2: It's at seven am. Stories keep going. So I walk

605
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 2: in and there there are five people in the joint. Five.

606
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 2: I'm surprised there were five.

607
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 7: I I'd never seen this before, and I'm not sure

608
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 7: if you can actually do this because I know so

609
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 7: little about craps.

610
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 2: There was one guy playing craps.

611
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 7: At a crabs table all by himself, and I'd never

612
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 7: said because if you go to a casino, as you know, Tony,

613
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 7: craps is like the most social of all the table games.

614
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 7: I mean there's thirty people, you know, huddled around the table,

615
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 7: and people are yelling and screaming and cheering, and.

616
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 2: People are buying precious metals.

617
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 7: Yes, and there there was just one guy at this

618
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,959
Speaker 7: craps table. There's actually some tumbleweed going across the table

619
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Speaker 7: as he was playing.

620
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: That's but you're not playing crap. No, you're not playing

621
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Speaker 1: black jack. I'm heading, you're not playing baccarat.

622
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,719
Speaker 7: I'm headed straight for video poker, right, I'll do it

623
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 7: along with four other people. Before I though, I go

624
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 7: to the self served beverage place looking for some of

625
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 7: Columbia's finest.

626
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 2: But then I you mean coffee, yes? But then I

627
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 2: hit that you mean coffee yes?

628
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 7: But then I hit the creamer button and powder came

629
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 7: shooting out, white powder, which, oh, so it was Columbia.

630
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 7: It looked like something from Columbia. It wasn't its finest.

631
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 7: So I take my coffee cup. Have my coffee over

632
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 7: to the video poker machine, right with a cigar. Ah,

633
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 7: it's so wonderful when the casino's empty because I try

634
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 7: to be courteous when it comes to cigar smoking at

635
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 7: a casino. Really, I try to find a machine not

636
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 7: anywhere near someone. You, on the other hand, you blow

637
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 7: smoke right in people's face.

638
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 2: I smoke in a nursery. Do what I want. You're

639
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 2: nothing bosso make Yeah.

640
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 7: So I'm sitting there and I'm enjoying my my my

641
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 7: cup of Joe that tastes like wax powder and shame.

642
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 7: And I have my cigar and I start gambling. And

643
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 7: I didn't realize just how much of an angry loaner

644
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 7: you could feel like at a casino when you're losing

645
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 7: money and the place is empty.

646
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 2: You didn't realize this, No, it was shocking to me.

647
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 2: I'm going to say it again with a point. You

648
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 2: didn't realize this because.

649
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Speaker 7: I've never been in a local casino at seven am.

650
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 7: But so I start gambling.

651
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 4: You've been at a local casino at seven am. You

652
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 4: just never drove there at seven am. Fair enough, But

653
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 4: what was amazing was the vibe. Even though I started losing.

654
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 4: It was wonderful. It was cleaner, the music was better.

655
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 4: There were no people. There was no one behind me saying,

656
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 4: oh that's a shot a fireball.

657
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't have that new sino smell.

658
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 7: Absolutely did Were you there?

659
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 2: Were you playing craps? I wasn't invited.

660
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 4: I wasn't invited.

661
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 7: Well, you were responsible, and you're you're doing your day

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Speaker 7: So I'm winning and I'm feeling good. The vibe is

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