WEBVTT - The Long Walk 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:15.959 Welcome to another episode of the Fair Second Podcast. 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:17.200 My name is Mike. I'm your host for. 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:21.080 The evening, and today we are going to be reviewing 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:24.920 the movie The Long Walk. Uh to my left eye 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:28.960 of Ken, to Ken's left eye of Rod, to Rod's left, 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:32.039 we have a special guest, a b. Thank you for 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:34.640 coming through technically kind of in front of me. See 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:35.480 see what I'm talking about. 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:41.800 He's already and awesome, Dick. 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:44.440 I didn't say where he was from. I thought he 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:46.919 was going to do that, see how they do every time. 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:50.480 All I said was special guest Ab. It's AB's job 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:50.880 to say. 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:52.320 Where he's from. It sound like you're about to jump 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:53.440 the spipe. I wasn't. 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:55.640 I didn't even get to say nothing because Rod jumped in, 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:59.960 as always. 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:01.080 From the to be so glad to be here. 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:05.840 Thank you, thank you for being here, man, God damn. 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:09.920 And AB's left, I have Spike, Jesus Spike's left, I 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:13.560 have myself and uh, yeah, we're gonna talk about the 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:14.080 Long Walk. 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:18.160 Let's do a quick, quick, quick round the table. 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:23.519 I'm not starting with you, Spike, with you, Uh, give 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:25.760 me a high level what did you think about this movie? 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:30.200 Ken? I enjoyed the movie you know. Yeah, yeah, I 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:32.880 enjoyed the movie. Rod, what'd you think of this movie? Yeah? 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:34.800 I thought it was good. I thought it was good. 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:36.520 Ab what'd you think of this movie? 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:38.200 I liked to man one of those ones I thought 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:43.720 about since I watched it. 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:47.080 I say, contrary to probably belief, I text him as 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:48.320 soon as I got I was like, did you see 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:50.040 this ship? Because I gonna at first, I. 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:54.040 Was like that I like that because I was entertained 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:56.040 the whole time. It was good. But I did like it. 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:59.000 I liked it though good. I'm glad everybody liked it. 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:00.920 I loved it. I loved it. 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:02.960 It's definitely one of one of the best thing I've 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:05.280 seen this year. I have a great time with this movie. 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:08.079 I had no idea what was gonna be about. They 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:10.560 did the trailers perfectly, except they did show some people 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:14.959 dying what they shouldn't have done. But yeah, I thought 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:17.760 it was really, really, really fucking good. Probably one of 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:22.320 my It's easily top three Stephen King adaptations, easily. 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:25.720 But yeah, so it starts off, what. 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:27.359 Is it? 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:28.880 If it's moving? Can you tighten it? 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:29.000 So? 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:31.320 I don't know. I saw you adjusted it. I was 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:32.680 gonna tell you to adjust. 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:37.160 It telepit moved or if I just didn't closer to 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:37.600 your mouth. 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:43.680 But yeah, that's that should be good enough. And it's 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:46.000 going on an individual channel, so he'll be able. 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:51.920 To okay, crazy, all right. 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:56.160 So yeah, So the movie starts off with telling us 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:59.800 that Raymond Garrity has won the lottery, which gets some 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:02.840 to the Long Walk, which is scene as this kind 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:05.240 of a way of breaking out of poverty. As the 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:07.800 winner of the Long Walk gets hell of money and 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:11.400 a wish. So driving in the car, we hear the 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:15.400 radio saying that the war tore the nation apart. The 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:17.600 first question I had Spike, are you kind of sick 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:20.600 of these type of movies? Or was this automatically intriguing? 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:22.200 It was automatically intriguing. 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:25.080 I actually wish I had gotten more, which this actually 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:27.280 made me want to read a book to understand more 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:29.160 about the world. I love world building, it's one of 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:31.640 my favorite things. I wish I had known the context 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:33.760 of what they were speaking of, but I realized they 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:35.080 ain't have enough time to talk about that. 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:37.919 Same with you, ab Yeah, for sure. It reminded me 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:39.320 a little bit of Civil War came out like a 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:42.839 year or two ago. Another post you know war that 0:04:42.960 --> 0:04:47.160 hasn't happened yet, and it fits the political climate of 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:49.880 of current so ironically, I know, it's super old the 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:52.200 book is, and it worked then. The fact that it still. 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:53.800 Works now it is kind of crazy. Fact there what 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:57.040 time period? It was hard. That was one thing I 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:58.440 was trying to like put piece together. 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:00.640 You couldn't tell the car, you couldn't, but they had 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:01.560 they had cameras. 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:02.800 It was. Yeah, it was weird. 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:08.520 Yeah, yeah, I didn't say damn yeh yeh I do. 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:11.840 I'm like, think back on I'm like them on the 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:15.039 Long Walk with my rations, get my rations. 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:22.560 We're y'all kind of sick of these post apocalyptic movies 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:23.280 that were, y all cool. 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:26.400 No, I'm good. I like them. They don't bother me. Yeah, 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:27.720 it was a different spin on it, you know what 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:28.080 I'm saying. 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:30.800 I thought it was very created, especially as like someone 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:33.039 who directs, like it's like, man, are they really gonna 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:35.200 stay here in this this world? 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:37.200 Like right here in this role? So yeah, I thought 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:38.719 it was very creatively done. 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:41.640 So yeah, all right, So we kind of meet our 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:46.240 group of characters. We meet Ray Garretty obviously, meet Pete mcgreeese, Stebbins, 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:51.279 Gary Barkovich, Hank Olsen, Curly. Then we meet the major 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:54.640 played by my motherfucking man Luke motherfucker Scot Walker, and 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:59.480 this bitch Mark Hamill. It's handing out tags. What'd you 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:01.880 think of the he's an rod that he gave for 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:02.640 the Long Walk? 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:06.440 What did he say? Hey, b what did you. 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:08.119 Think of the reasoning he gave for the Long Walk? 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:11.360 I thought it was reach, but I'm also trying to 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:15.320 put myself in this world, but without the details of 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:17.760 what all has happened. It was a little bit of 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:20.239 a reach trying to tell us that this will motivate 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:23.520 other people, and I'm kind of like, yeah, will it? 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:27.520 Like I'm not really seeing exactly how that works and 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:30.640 not having all the the details, you know, that that 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:31.360 kind of blew it. 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:33.960 But I let it. I let it live. But it 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:36.200 was a little bit of a reach though. Interesting Do 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:38.240 you remember this now? Rock? Yeah? So I don't, Yeah, 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:38.479 I don't. 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:42.320 I did wonder, Okay, like, yeah, how does this motive 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:43.560 like Motherfucker's dying? 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:45.479 Because in my mind, I'm like I saw a part 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:47.599 of the trailer. I'm like, don't Motherfucker's dying? And this 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:50.280 shit like that would have been another thing to inspire 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:53.960 if you just like, you know, oh oh I thought 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:55.320 you was. I thought you were saying something. 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:58.360 Yeah, it would be one thing to inspire if you 0:06:58.360 --> 0:06:59.760 you know, it's just like, oh, yeah, I'm tired. 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:02.159 Whatever I wanted I did, I did it good. I 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:02.719 just lost. 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:05.760 But nah, nigga niggas died like so, I don't know 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:09.640 if they was televising that or not, but it were Yeah, 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:11.000 so how does that inspire? 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:12.600 Like I don't understand, Like I don't want to do that, 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:14.320 but he said it was to keep going though, like 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:16.720 to inspire the nation to keep going through all the 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:19.400 hard times. I thought it made sense in the sense 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:22.920 of everybody was so broke and down tried and that 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:24.920 this is the only way that you can turn your 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:27.840 family around and you everybody had to sign up for, 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:29.840 which we found out later when he was like, it 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:30.880 wasn't really a choice. 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:33.320 The only thing I'll give it is is it reminded 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:35.760 me of like Hunger Games. That's exactly what I thought. 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:40.600 It's the same guy perfect, So yeah, look, it felt 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:42.760 like Hunger Games and people were dying fat they knew 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:44.360 what they were getting themselves into. They knew that it 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:46.680 was possible they were going to die or whatever, they 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:49.040 were doing it for the greater goods, So I guess 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:50.600 that's I guess. 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:54.640 That's talking about their motivation. But I'm talking about the 0:07:55.440 --> 0:08:00.960 explanation of why the major thinks the hunger that games, 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:05.080 why he thinks the long walk is beneficial for America. 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:08.800 And yeah, he's saying that the country is in a 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:11.640 financial struggle right now and this is supposed to inspire 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:15.440 people to value work ethic. Yeah, that makes sense to 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:18.680 me one hundred percent when you look at how Americans 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:21.320 are now or even back when we were younger them 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:23.920 fucking was it Sally Strugglers with the little African kids 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:27.920 that she'd be posting like Americans automatically go to, oh man, 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:29.600 my life is pretty good, because it's not. 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:32.400 That, you know what I mean? And that's what he 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:34.920 was saying Propagand yes, he says it's value. 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:37.600 It makes you value work ethic and it's basically pushing 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:40.640 me to stop being lazy. If these guys can march 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:45.160 three hundred miles with barely any food, then the least 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:46.680 you can do is get your ass up and go 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:47.920 to work for fucking sixty hours. 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:49.800 I get that point, But what about the killing part. 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:52.559 That's the part. I don't even think that that's all 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:53.240 far fetched. 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:56.120 I really don't, especially if we're looking at a post 0:08:56.120 --> 0:08:58.600 apocalyptic America, if we look at the way we view 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:03.360 death now, as we just discussed, I definitely don't think 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:07.079 that that's too far fetched that Americans would see, especially 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:08.960 poor people dying. 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:13.800 It's downtrodden people dying. Well, shit, at least that's not me. 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:16.640 So I can go to work and go to this 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:18.840 factory and work eighty hours because at least I don't 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:20.160 have to walk three hundred miles and die. 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:24.440 People seem desensitized to it too. They had kids watching it. Yeah, 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.560 so it seemed that makes when you put it like that, 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:29.280 that makes this it's like the running. 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:34.080 Man form of entertainment. It's eventually what you know. So, yeah, 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:38.160 all that makes sense what he was saying. You know too, Yeah, 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:41.440 put the microphone a little closer for you. 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:45.720 Yeah, So we then hear the rules of the game. 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:48.360 You walk to there's one person left. You can't walk 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:51.320 under three miles an hour. If you step off the pavement, 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:55.280 you get a ticket. Obviously the ticket means death. You 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:58.080 get a warning if you drop below three miles an hour, 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:02.280 three warnings means you die. So once they start walking, 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:05.600 did you think that that it was it for Barkovich 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:06.800 when he stopped to get a rock out of his 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:07.920 shoe and got all those warnings. 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:11.880 Ken, Nah, not him, Not him. 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:15.920 He seemed like he was gonna be a key figure 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:18.760 for the movie. But I think they did Ariller really 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:20.720 well because it made it seem like he was actually 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:24.480 gonna get got you know. But but nah, I had 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:27.440 a feeling because he was actually part of that group 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:30.520 in the beginning when they were introducing all the kind 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:31.840 of like the characters. 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:34.240 So, but it would have been good to take him 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:35.680 out early because he was like, oh. 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:39.080 Shit, yeah, you agree that she would have been good 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:40.880 to take him out early, But he did. He was 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:45.360 a heavy contributor throughout the movie. I did enjoy his character. 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:48.560 I find it interesting how they were rooting for like 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:50.920 come on, come on, like get up. I found that 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:55.520 interesting because, like ros said, everybody gonna die, y'all. Ain't 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:57.439 like I'm not rooting for you to get up and 0:10:57.440 --> 0:10:59.360 start beg walking, like this is one last person I 0:10:59.360 --> 0:10:59.840 gotta beat. 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:03.600 So that was one rule that didn't click until. 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:05.600 After the movie was over, because I thought, and I'm 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:08.880 still not all the way sure. I thought it was 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:12.439 just a matter of if there's two of us and 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:15.320 one of us gets across the finish line before the 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:16.079 person behind me. 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:21.400 Then I went, but that doesn't mean line fish line exactly. 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:25.000 So I'm still and especially when Ray starts talking about 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:29.000 what his wishes or not Ray he starts talking about 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:31.559 what his wish is. We'll get to that later, but yeah, 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:34.560 I was. I was a bit confused about that too, 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:38.400 like why are you rooting because eventually everybody but you. 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:39.080 Have to die. 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:41.600 I think they were trying to show how good of 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:45.000 that they had, good character people walking for the most part. 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:45.320 Not everybody. 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:47.679 Some people were jerks, but they were trying. I think 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:49.480 they were trying to show that they had good character, 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:53.040 good hearts, and they hadn't succumbed to what the what 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:55.880 it seems like the country had succumbed to to kill 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:58.960 people in the street, senseless this senseless that, yeah, pursuit 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:02.200 of money that they still had, like a moral core. 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:05.800 That's fair. We we body, we haven't body any type thing. 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:08.440 Like everybody out here fighting, struggling, We out here together 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:09.480 you know, Okay, that makes sense. 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:11.560 Yeah, and they're they're young, you know, all of them 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:14.800 were supposed to be young, so they still they viewed 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:17.800 the world differently. They're not jaded, so they're kind of 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:21.240 rooting for one another. But Stephen King, I believe I 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:24.160 read that, you know, I think the book was seventy 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:27.600 nine something like that, but this was like around the 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:32.000 It was something about the Vietnam War. Yeah, so taking 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:35.839 that book and applying it what's happening here to that 0:12:35.920 --> 0:12:40.880 time period, you would kind of see how soldiers that 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:44.200 were drafted in a war would root for one another. 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:47.400 But eventually everybody's gonna die, but we're going to try 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:50.440 to hold onto each other, you know, until it's inevitable. 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:52.760 But at least with soldiers, the whole point is they 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:56.120 don't want their guys to die, whereas here it's like 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:57.600 I may not want you to die, but you still 0:12:57.640 --> 0:12:59.000 have to die in order for me to live. 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:00.440 Right, So yeah, it was it was. 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:03.560 It was a little teeny bit confusing, but it wasn't 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:05.560 confusing enough to hurt the story. 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:07.240 Agree, I think it made the story better. 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:11.200 Actually, The that weird dynamic of man he cares so 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:13.480 much about this person, but eventually one of them is 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:14.199 going to die. 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:15.720 Yes, yeah, yeah. 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:19.000 So when Pete and Ray are talking about the Long Walk, 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:23.160 what did you think about Ray's idea about the volunteering 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:28.000 In quotes Rod about you know, his his idea of 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:30.000 is this actually voluntary? 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:32.199 Who's who's Who's that? 0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:36.000 Pete and Ray were discussing that, and Ray gave the 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:38.719 idea about, you know, is this actually voluntary? 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:39.880 Yeah. 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:42.440 I was trying to figure out that part out too, 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:46.120 because I thought, like they this is I thought this 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:48.320 wasn't the first time they had actually done it. This 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:50.120 is like the second time they had done they had 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:53.440 been doing it, Yeah, I thought, but I had thought 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:55.320 it was it was they hadn't done it in a 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:57.200 while or something like that, like, which is why he 0:13:57.280 --> 0:13:58.040 was saying, well. 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:01.640 Again, I think. 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:03.800 That it was he was kind of like on some 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:06.760 conspiracy theory type, right, But I thought what he said 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:10.760 was pointed though, where it's you you have a choice 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:13.760 quote unquote, but the situation is so dire. 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:16.600 Everybody's so broke, everybody's so fucked up. 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:19.680 That you have if you want trying to make anything 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:21.520 out of life, you need to do the Long Walk. 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:24.520 And that's where most people were, So you think you 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:27.200 have a choice when really it's. 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:29.200 The only option. 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:31.360 It's the only option that And I thought that was 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:34.920 pointed because you could point to impoverished neighborhoods and who's 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:37.160 in charge of making that look the way it looks, 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:39.480 and yeah, it's a whole rabbit hole you can go 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:41.040 down with that, And I think that's what he was 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:41.480 trying to say. 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:43.440 I thought, I thought there was a great monologue in 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:45.920 and it was a great starting point to that build 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:48.000 up with his dad because when he said it and 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:49.440 that he was like he was telling. 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:49.600 The other guy. 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:52.440 He was like, where'd you get the idea of nobody 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:55.520 actually signs up? I mean nobody actually volunteers, because everybody 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:56.760 signs up. And he asked me, he was like, how 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:58.880 many people you know didn't sign up? Everybody did it? 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:01.160 And then it hit the black who told you that? 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:02.880 And then I think it was great building towards this 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:04.120 relationship with his dad. 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:05.560 But I thought that was great. 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:09.680 Yeah, yeah, I agree the point that he's pushing through 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:14.520 where everybody is desperate, yep, so's they view it as 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:17.320 there's no way out of this desperation other than the 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:19.760 long walk and he makes this point that was so good. 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:23.480 He's like, look, if the entire system says there's one 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:27.800 escape patch to get away from this, everybody is gonna 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:31.600 go to the escape patch. And you know, like Abe 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:34.600 was said, we look at all of the things that 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:39.040 we are involved in as voluntary and then there's some 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:39.960 of us nerves that are. 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:43.040 Like, oh, capitalism sucks, but we're still a part of it. 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:44.360 There's no other option. 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:47.000 We have to we have to be a part of 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:50.320 this system because this is the only option for most 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:54.720 of us, especially if you're already desperate and downtrodden. Like 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:57.200 the worst thing on earth probably to be right now 0:15:57.320 --> 0:15:59.680 is a poor person that hates capitalism because you have 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:04.120 no fucking option at all to do something other than 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:07.000 because it takes money to break away from these systems. 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:09.800 So, man, just in this part alone, I was like, 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:10.280 oh this. 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:11.720 Movie is Yeah, that was a bar sh. 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:13.400 Yeah. 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:16.960 Capitalism was definitely a lens that I looked at it through, 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:19.720 and it was just like the things that they were saying, 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:22.640 the things that was happening, the major and the things 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:26.240 that he was saying to just encourage them to move forward, 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:28.760 like you can make it, you can break freeze. 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:31.120 That sounds like your boss at the John. 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:33.200 The American Dream, you know, and all the other stuff. 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:35.960 You just got to work hard enough. Yeah, like yeah, yeah, 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:36.920 it was yeah. 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:42.480 It it really made the language in here different without 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:46.200 being on the nose. Ye yeah, because you knew you like, 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:47.720 in the beginning, they kind of set it up. 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:50.840 They told you, like pretty much laid out what is 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:54.600 really kind of about, you know, and then from there, 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:57.560 like you said, they kind of was very nuanced with 0:16:57.600 --> 0:16:59.480 some of the things that were happening because it was 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:03.040 awesome about these characters and a human story as well. 0:17:03.200 --> 0:17:05.600 So what do you think about Curly getting God? Curly 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:06.320 was the young kid? 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:12.240 That hilarious because Curly was trying his damness? Did you 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:19.040 see his face? Bike? 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:26.320 But it was smart to start with the youngest one, 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:29.199 sixteen year old kids. And again, the other thing I 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:31.840 was thinking about is of course war as well, because 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:33.080 he was a kid that's trapped in. 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:35.840 The war and he's he don't want to go to war. 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:40.480 He goes maybe after bravery, maybe for his family, maybe 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:43.359 to make a living, and he goes to his place 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:45.760 and then he realized, like you said, it's by what 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:46.960 the fuck did I sign? 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:49.760 Up for and he gets God, but man he. 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:52.120 Had he's trying to call the c y'all didn't get 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:56.040 the y'all didn't get the conspiracy. There he was, he was, 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:58.720 his name was Curly, he was young. And how did 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:00.960 he died against bike? What did he get in his Charlie? 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:02.080 Charlie horse? 0:18:02.480 --> 0:18:05.360 And then he died from what gun violence? 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:08.960 Stay woke. That's the hell of a turning point. 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:11.880 That's take a shot. 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:21.440 I don't even get it once. 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:31.120 I don't know what you're talking about. Damn red fish 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:39.040 Blue like one too right in the hat. At least 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:42.520 Ill explained they can't get mad at him. They can't, right. 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:46.160 I think I do think that that was the first 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:48.360 indication because as you think about this movie and going 0:18:48.400 --> 0:18:50.240 into it, how simple it is, just like, I mean, 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:52.639 they just gotta walk. But then they showed the small 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:54.600 things that can happen that could suck up your whole 0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:57.560 We got a rocking issue. Oh we got a Charlie 0:18:57.560 --> 0:19:01.040 who it wouldn't normally matter, but you gotta keep walking, bro, 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:02.879 Like what you're gonna do that? 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:04.200 Yeah? 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:07.679 And that made it that much better. As the movie went, 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:12.320 I was like, oh, ship, Charlie got stretched that out 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:14.760 like it's nothing you could do and you died because 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:15.600 you had a charge horse. 0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:17.760 That was real good. He was. 0:19:19.119 --> 0:19:23.560 He was bugging y'all laughing at that ship. I was like, yo, 0:19:23.680 --> 0:19:28.480 in the movie. He was the first one us. I 0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:31.560 believe I laughed in the movie. People just looking at me. 0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:34.440 They should have been looked at you like you were crazy. 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:40.320 Yeah, don't hurt as much as a bullet Jesus and 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:41.320 was crazy. 0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:44.960 They made sure have showed the cry. I was like, oh, wow, 0:19:45.000 --> 0:19:45.560 for the kid. 0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:50.960 Three miles per hour, isn't like that's a pretty pretty. 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:54.000 Good paste, bro. I hainte that fast thought? 0:19:56.160 --> 0:19:58.960 No, no, no, so that's a brisk walk. Yeah. 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:04.040 Now what I'm saying, look back to that. 0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:09.600 Realist you're watching the Actually, if you exercise, I have 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:10.360 the treadmill. 0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:15.440 I know the speed three hours is pretty decent. You 0:20:15.520 --> 0:20:17.600 walk the screening. 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:19.639 They did a screen in the l A where it 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:23.240 was on treadmills instead of seats. You had to walk 0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:25.200 the three miles per hour the whole time and if 0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:27.080 you if you stopped or took a break, then you 0:20:27.080 --> 0:20:27.800 you had to get kicked out. 0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:28.520 I might try to. 0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:34.639 That's good marketing, is really marketing you're gonna kick me 0:20:34.680 --> 0:20:35.280 out this movie. 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:36.160 I have to pay pro. 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:41.960 A special screen. Maybe it was. I don't know, because 0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:44.879 I know intrigued because it puts you in the movie. 0:20:45.080 --> 0:20:48.760 No, it's not watch them walking, but you're doing it. 0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:51.160 The same and now movie and now you're thinking like. 0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:56.080 You it's not as as somebody I think to two 0:20:56.119 --> 0:21:00.280 point two point seven is probably yeah, I think that 0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:02.160 could be done three hours. 0:21:02.720 --> 0:21:04.480 Now the movie was two hours or four minutes? 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:05.160 What really? 0:21:05.240 --> 0:21:09.160 Yes? Yes, no it was. It was. It was an hour. 0:21:10.200 --> 0:21:13.399 Another thing about I don't bro it was an hour 0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:15.200 forty ends. I remember sitting down, like I watched the 0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:17.480 movie that long. I watched it twice. I went to 0:21:17.680 --> 0:21:21.120 AMC is six thirty. I got it. That doesn't mean 0:21:21.160 --> 0:21:22.760 the movie was that lost by. 0:21:22.760 --> 0:21:31.880 The Coca Cola commercial and popcorn unless I go the movie. 0:21:32.520 --> 0:21:35.240 But I like how they're getting created with the promos though, 0:21:35.440 --> 0:21:37.639 and they didn't that with weapons like the times that 0:21:37.720 --> 0:21:39.000 started too whatever the. 0:21:39.000 --> 0:21:41.520 Kid yeah fourteen Yeah, I thought that was cool too. 0:21:42.080 --> 0:21:44.159 But real quick while we talking about the speed in 0:21:44.240 --> 0:21:46.560 the book, because he didn't have and I just I 0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:49.719 saw ama that Stephen King did on it. That's how 0:21:49.760 --> 0:21:53.080 I know this, but but he said in the book 0:21:53.160 --> 0:21:56.960 is four miles fou But he didn't know though that 0:21:56.960 --> 0:21:59.560 that's unreasonable, so he changed it. 0:21:59.680 --> 0:22:02.960 He said, he glad that they're changing the three four is. 0:22:07.560 --> 0:22:09.280 You're probably right, but I thought it was more than that. 0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:15.720 But at any rate, Olympic. 0:22:24.920 --> 0:22:26.000 Everybody walking like that. 0:22:26.800 --> 0:22:29.960 So Pete has this idea of not thinking about making 0:22:30.000 --> 0:22:32.199 it to the end, just making it to the next moment. 0:22:32.720 --> 0:22:35.840 But shortly after that, one of the other kids, Ewing, 0:22:36.560 --> 0:22:40.359 has a seizure and dies. But then shortly after that, 0:22:40.560 --> 0:22:42.640 Ray asked Pete about the scar on his face. 0:22:42.720 --> 0:22:43.280 Rod, were you. 0:22:43.240 --> 0:22:46.520 Intrigued by the fact that Pete, who seems so happy 0:22:46.560 --> 0:22:49.520 and open and honest about everything immediately doesn't want to 0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:50.120 talk about the scar. 0:22:50.320 --> 0:22:52.840 No, yeah, I knew that probably was a soft spot 0:22:52.880 --> 0:22:54.840 for him. Whatever the scar was, it made it. It 0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:57.800 was too prominent, right, I mean, like, I knew they 0:22:57.800 --> 0:22:59.480 were going to bring it up at some point, you 0:22:59.520 --> 0:23:01.959 know what I'm saying. And so yeah, I wasn't. I 0:23:02.000 --> 0:23:05.800 wasn't surprised that he wasn't ready to talk about that. So, yeah, 0:23:05.880 --> 0:23:07.600 what about you again? Oh I wanted to know what 0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:10.840 it was. I would have asked met man, what happened? 0:23:14.480 --> 0:23:16.919 That's what you would do that. 0:23:19.320 --> 0:23:21.600 You don't know me like that? But uh, but no, 0:23:21.720 --> 0:23:23.560 I think they did it well. I think they did 0:23:23.600 --> 0:23:26.119 it well to set it up for what was to 0:23:26.119 --> 0:23:29.080 come later because yea, his monologue was great. I want 0:23:29.119 --> 0:23:30.320 to speak to his performance too. 0:23:30.320 --> 0:23:32.760 He did a fantastic so I think he stole the show, 0:23:33.119 --> 0:23:34.520 to be honest with you. But yeah, I thought he 0:23:34.520 --> 0:23:38.719 would respond like that. That monologue was called I've been 0:23:38.840 --> 0:23:41.439 I've been walking my whole life. But even before that, 0:23:41.480 --> 0:23:43.480 when he talked about the moments, I looked at you. 0:23:43.720 --> 0:23:46.720 Like allegorithm like life like people are so focused on 0:23:47.200 --> 0:23:50.199 the end when really it's about the things that happened 0:23:50.280 --> 0:23:52.320 in between. And they even said that toward the end, 0:23:52.400 --> 0:23:54.760 about the you can know somebody for three hours, three years, 0:23:54.800 --> 0:23:57.159 or three decades. You can if you connect, then you 0:23:57.200 --> 0:23:59.440 connected all the connection all that was hard. 0:24:00.480 --> 0:24:02.600 That's actually a really good point about the long walk, 0:24:02.640 --> 0:24:04.560 which is life, and you're just trying to get to 0:24:04.600 --> 0:24:07.160 the next moment in life and enjoyed the join these 0:24:07.200 --> 0:24:08.800 moments to get to the next moment. 0:24:08.880 --> 0:24:11.200 Yeah, you looked at as adults you ever see kids 0:24:11.200 --> 0:24:15.040 are fascinated by like the Yeah, well we have kind 0:24:15.040 --> 0:24:17.480 of took it from granted, it's always that. I thought, 0:24:17.480 --> 0:24:18.240 that's what he kind of made. 0:24:18.280 --> 0:24:25.480 How the birds fly right, gotta be working ten minutes 0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:28.960 just asked me that, like why can't we fly? 0:24:29.200 --> 0:24:38.520 Like look, God and niggas that way to be quiet? 0:24:39.680 --> 0:24:41.119 So I like you like how he's been on the 0:24:41.119 --> 0:24:44.320 come up though, that guy he's I don't know if you. 0:24:44.359 --> 0:24:48.640 Remember, but rolaying. Yep, he's on roylaye. And then that's 0:24:48.640 --> 0:24:50.440 the movie I have brought to. Yeah, that's what I 0:24:50.840 --> 0:24:53.240 watched it. You did? You did? You did? I don't 0:24:53.240 --> 0:24:54.960 know if you like it. I don't think you and I. 0:24:55.160 --> 0:24:57.399 It was him and a girl and it was like 0:24:57.440 --> 0:24:59.200 a romantic comedy. Oh that was him. 0:24:59.840 --> 0:25:02.600 I from Alien and right and he was Alien. That's 0:25:02.680 --> 0:25:04.760 when were you watch Industry here in that too. I 0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:05.439 haven't seen that yet. 0:25:05.480 --> 0:25:09.640 I know ye though, yeah, man, he's he's and getting better. 0:25:09.800 --> 0:25:13.320 Until this, I didn't care about him. I thought he 0:25:13.400 --> 0:25:15.800 was fine in Alien. I thought it was fine. 0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:19.760 And this, yeah, nah, he did his thing. He killed it. 0:25:19.800 --> 0:25:21.320 I don't know what accent he was doing. 0:25:22.080 --> 0:25:25.560 It was fine. I had it, bruh. That's why I 0:25:25.600 --> 0:25:26.400 watched it. Twice. 0:25:26.560 --> 0:25:28.080 There was another reason because there was a bunch of 0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:31.399 girls kids in there talking, so they run the whole experience. 0:25:31.440 --> 0:25:33.439 That's why when I test y'all some kid, it. 0:25:33.480 --> 0:25:36.000 Was like about thirty forty minutes left in the movies, like, 0:25:36.359 --> 0:25:40.880 shut the fuck up, bro, it got whitet. They didn't 0:25:40.880 --> 0:25:43.199 say ship the rest of the movie real quick. And 0:25:43.240 --> 0:25:45.080 then when I was so, I stayed behind. I was like, 0:25:45.080 --> 0:25:46.439 I want to see who was talking. So I was 0:25:46.440 --> 0:25:52.320 out through my phone awaiting kids. So the guy came out. 0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:54.560 I was like, man, I ain't know it was kids. Man, 0:25:54.640 --> 0:25:56.640 I feel bad, man, you know I could. He said, 0:25:56.680 --> 0:25:59.560 my customers the funk out and I said, I said, no, 0:25:59.640 --> 0:26:01.840 you should feel bad. They shouldn't have been talking. And 0:26:01.840 --> 0:26:04.000 then they came out. They were like, man, you know 0:26:04.040 --> 0:26:05.679 he didn't have to tell him shut the funk up. 0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:11.240 We were talking. That's kind They weren't just strang. I 0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:11.679 moved there. 0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:14.280 It was packed like it wasn't an empty seat left 0:26:14.720 --> 0:26:16.640 where I was in and almost sat on this side. 0:26:16.680 --> 0:26:20.959 So so them and the accents. Because I can't understand 0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:24.359 the Asian, I couldn't understand that the black guy, I 0:26:24.440 --> 0:26:27.440 can't understand the other black guy. I can understand the 0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:30.840 white guy. I can't understand that. I can stand. 0:26:32.359 --> 0:26:35.960 Going. I thought that was just Bro was killing me 0:26:36.480 --> 0:26:38.119 everybody else. Isn't he from England? 0:26:38.280 --> 0:26:41.720 He's the black guys always. I think I think he 0:26:41.840 --> 0:26:43.480 was England trying to do a Southern accent. 0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:45.960 Yeah, it was like, what is yeah? 0:26:46.280 --> 0:26:53.879 You talking about six that's a Baker Art Baker. I 0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:58.959 can understand him in points. But African, dude, Yeah, God, Bro, 0:26:59.480 --> 0:27:02.040 Africa to do it. African trying to do that Mississippi 0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:05.600 trying to do a Southern ship. Jesus Christ gonna get 0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:08.399 just dunk be jumping all over you. 0:27:08.560 --> 0:27:09.480 I'm glad they gave. 0:27:09.400 --> 0:27:11.280 Him the acting opportunity, but I was like, they playing 0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:13.720 with us. Man, we know this dude not from the Mississippi. 0:27:15.720 --> 0:27:18.800 Come on wrong. 0:27:22.800 --> 0:27:25.440 We can Maryland sometimes understand African, and here you go 0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:30.359 trying to do a son. You know, people struggling with people. 0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:33.920 I'm just saying, like some folks do struggle with Southern 0:27:34.000 --> 0:27:36.200 that sense and the African Southern. 0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:38.000 That's ship. That's insane. 0:27:38.480 --> 0:27:40.800 They never been double. That's a crazy it's never been. 0:27:41.400 --> 0:27:45.200 That's a crazy combination. That's like getting catch up in 0:27:45.280 --> 0:27:48.720 solid dress how you're gonna make this ship work? But 0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:59.800 I thought he was great anyway, bankovicage Barkovich starts teasing 0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:02.880 of the kids name Rank, which turns into Rank trying 0:28:02.880 --> 0:28:04.960 to hit him, which leads to Rank breaking the rules 0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:09.359 and getting shot, and this becomes a discussion around Barkovic 0:28:09.600 --> 0:28:10.760 being a murderer. 0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:12.439 Ab was he a murderer? 0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:13.120 Oh? 0:28:13.960 --> 0:28:16.560 He definitely played a role, clearly, because if he hadn't 0:28:16.600 --> 0:28:19.480 been antagonizing them, then nothing that would have happened. But 0:28:19.640 --> 0:28:22.480 I don't know, and may hopefully y'all can fill me in, Well, 0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:25.560 why was he so did Why did that affect him 0:28:25.760 --> 0:28:26.280 so much? 0:28:26.400 --> 0:28:27.040 Though? Rank? 0:28:27.320 --> 0:28:30.040 Yes, I think that what at least from what I got, 0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:32.879 is that Rank to start to lose it earlier than 0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:33.639 everybody else did. 0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:37.440 Okay, that's all I took from just losing his mind because. 0:28:37.200 --> 0:28:38.040 Of the situation. 0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:40.360 Well, I thought it was because he came from an 0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:42.080 environment where he was the one being teased like that, 0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:43.880 because he said he never had a group, He never 0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:45.360 had people, He was always a loner. 0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:51.920 Okay, Why did that bother Rank so much? Where you 0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:52.360 wanted to fight? 0:28:52.520 --> 0:28:52.640 Oh? 0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:54.800 You dude, the gut shot was? I don't know. I 0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:59.280 thought you wasn't good, was he ranked? I don't know. 0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:02.440 They were trying to, I think, and. 0:29:02.440 --> 0:29:04.560 That's probably why he was lasting because Berks was calling 0:29:04.600 --> 0:29:06.160 him sissy and stuff like that, and that's why. 0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:09.960 Yeah, but that's what guys do even when they're not gay. 0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:11.880 So I never really got the impression that he was 0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:12.600 actually gay. 0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:14.960 He he kind of had the man rhythm, That's what 0:29:15.040 --> 0:29:17.560 I'm talking about. I think they implied. 0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:24.280 I feel like, yeah, it looked like it. It wasn't 0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:29.640 shut up, stop you're talking about the person. 0:29:29.760 --> 0:29:32.800 Yeah, yeah, we had a bad anyway. 0:29:36.240 --> 0:29:38.000 For the record, for those who't have video, I am 0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:38.600 not laughing. 0:29:40.080 --> 0:29:44.560 Yeah, but but what But I think why Rank reacted 0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:47.720 that way is because if that is indeed the case 0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:50.320 to connect all the ship together is that if he 0:29:50.400 --> 0:29:54.440 grew up being teased like Dan T's, then if Berkevich 0:29:54.560 --> 0:29:58.280 is teasing him, he's gonna react violently to being he 0:29:58.400 --> 0:29:59.080 was ship. 0:29:59.120 --> 0:30:05.640 Hold on, you know, no, See that's what happens, Jalen. 0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:08.320 You can't take no days off no more, bro, that's 0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:11.440 we lost connection to the camera. 0:30:11.600 --> 0:30:11.880 Hold on. 0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:17.120 Mm hmmm. See it's a long walkome be a long 0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:24.120 ass review times. Yeah, we have to cut the conversations. 0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:27.280 Let's cut. We can't cut the movie. 0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:30.280 I think we should cut the combo because we've dropped 0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:32.000 a lot of conbos lately, back to back. 0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:35.880 People know they do, but you already watched the movie. 0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:38.480 Let's just sue it. It won't be long that show 0:30:38.600 --> 0:30:42.520 movie too. Yeah, so he's here to do the movie 0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:49.120 history of all right, we are back you sure, Yeah, 0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:52.160 the cable just became unplugged. All right. 0:30:52.480 --> 0:30:58.560 So Rod rob Ronald gets the ships and ends up 0:30:58.640 --> 0:31:01.880 dying for it. And after that, Ray gets delirious and 0:31:01.960 --> 0:31:05.880 starts accusing Pete of wanting him dead. And shortly after 0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:08.480 this one of the most tense scenes of the film happens. 0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:10.040 This is where they're trying to make it up the hill, 0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:13.920 maintaining that three miles per hour speed Rod. 0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:14.840 Many of them don't make it. 0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:17.600 Ray almost dies and Pete has to come help him 0:31:17.680 --> 0:31:20.720 up the hill, and afterwards Ray apologizes to him for 0:31:20.800 --> 0:31:21.240 what he said. 0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:23.080 What did you think about this scene? I'm sorry, it's 0:31:23.080 --> 0:31:24.720 the only one. I'm gonna have to go back just 0:31:24.800 --> 0:31:30.320 a little bit every time. You can't. Yeah, where are 0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:33.920 you going? Go ahead? Motherfucker? Fall asleep like he fell asleep. 0:31:33.960 --> 0:31:35.920 I thought it was weird he fell asleep while he 0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:38.800 was walking. Never you never fall asleep standing up, not walking, 0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:41.440 not walking. But if you if you're walking for that long, 0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:43.320 I think it's completely feasible that your body. 0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:44.640 Could do that. I'm not saying that you can't. 0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:47.160 I thought I thought it was interesting because people sleep walk, right, 0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:50.120 that's a good point. Yeah, So so I was just like, okay, 0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:51.160 I like that they. 0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:54.560 Look like sleep walking is different. But him get this 0:31:55.960 --> 0:32:00.320 every time him. It was just the one that I thought, 0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:04.280 I know, I didn't think it's kid about the Oh wow, 0:32:07.560 --> 0:32:09.160 I didn't think about it anyway. 0:32:09.280 --> 0:32:10.800 Let him get his thing on because he got to 0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:13.280 add this ship right right right. But but no, yeah, 0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:15.320 at first I was like, damn, I don't know. But 0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:16.920 then I started thinking about sleepwalking. I don't know what 0:32:17.000 --> 0:32:19.120 you have to say about that. But I started thinking 0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:21.160 about sleepwalking, and then like, and I'm just trying to 0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:24.080 make it make sense, like damn, this motherfucker's actually dreaming 0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:27.640 like while standing up walking like three miles per hour. 0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:30.480 So right, I did the same question because I was 0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:32.840 wondering how to fuckers sleep? So I did look it up, 0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:35.600 and yeah, it's definitely possible. They call it micro sleeping. 0:32:37.080 --> 0:32:39.400 So yeah, and that's why you saw later on that 0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:41.440 they were holding each other y Yeah, yeah, I got you. 0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:43.200 Yeah, so but yeah, because I was like, how the 0:32:43.320 --> 0:32:45.240 hell that? Because I was like you, I was like, 0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:45.720 what the hell? 0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:47.200 It was? The keeping the pace part? 0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:52.320 Yeah, yeah, I think that it's almost like your body 0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:54.680 goes in the cruise control. You're already walking that fast, 0:32:54.880 --> 0:32:57.800 and then your body's continues going that fast. Honestly, he 0:32:57.800 --> 0:32:59.240 probably would have made it further if you had just 0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:01.600 stayed asleep, you know, because of your body doesn't know 0:33:01.680 --> 0:33:02.080 it's tired. 0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:03.520 But I feel like they were walking for quite some 0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:06.320 time while they was sleep. Actually that's what it actually, well, 0:33:06.360 --> 0:33:07.200 that's what it implied. 0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:09.479 I don't think so because it was quick. You can 0:33:09.560 --> 0:33:11.360 you can fall asleep for five minutes and your dream 0:33:11.360 --> 0:33:12.800 will be like an hour, you know what I mean. 0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:13.600 So I think they were. 0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:16.120 Trying to play with the time, but he's probably only 0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:17.360 sleep for like thirty seconds. 0:33:17.600 --> 0:33:19.880 Yeah, I didn't want to go somewhere. That was interesting 0:33:20.040 --> 0:33:22.600 that you know that they threw that in there, like 0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:24.400 what the fuck? Like asleep? 0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:28.560 But the hell part was intense. It's hell, like, man, 0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:30.600 that that was a really really good thing because a 0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:33.840 by this time it was it was dark. Yeah, yeah, 0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:38.200 it rains, I think right, huh it was the hill raining, Yeah, 0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:38.760 it was raining. 0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:39.840 It was raining too. Yeah. 0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:41.760 Man, they made this part intense. I don't know what 0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:43.880 did you act specifically, but yeah, I did think this 0:33:43.960 --> 0:33:44.800 part was really good. 0:33:45.120 --> 0:33:47.560 To your point about the hill, we all watched a 0:33:47.600 --> 0:33:49.720 lot of movies, so I'm thinking, Okay, they're not feel 0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:50.800 to show us every kill. 0:33:51.440 --> 0:33:53.640 How they gonna get the majority of these people out 0:33:53.680 --> 0:33:56.200 of here? And I thought the heill was brilliant. Yeah, 0:33:56.560 --> 0:34:00.960 I was like boom, and it was so intense, like 0:34:01.160 --> 0:34:04.360 roster like. It was like they were shooting right behind 0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:05.920 somebody that was walking the right. 0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:06.920 It was really good. 0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:09.640 And Stevens giving the backstory about what happened in the 0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:13.759 previous ones him for us, Yes, actually understand watching me 0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:14.520 the people that ding. 0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:16.680 Yes, that was a great reveal. It's like, oh, that's 0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:18.000 how they gonna narrow it down. 0:34:18.600 --> 0:34:21.440 But yeah, what I was really really focusing on this 0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:25.879 scene was hearing I don't know why, but hearing Ray 0:34:26.000 --> 0:34:28.520 apologized to Pete for what he had said to him. 0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:30.640 Because Pete didn't have to come back and help him. 0:34:30.680 --> 0:34:32.040 After what he said, he I felt like, you want 0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:35.319 me dad, you know you're trying to get I don't 0:34:35.360 --> 0:34:37.560 know what it was, but something about hearing that apology, 0:34:37.600 --> 0:34:39.200 I was like, god, damn, this movie is. 0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:41.520 Really like this movie is good. 0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:46.480 What I liked about it was actually like Pete mccrees 0:34:47.200 --> 0:34:49.839 just him coming to grab this guy, this random guy 0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:53.080 that he just met and grabbing and the look of 0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:56.799 intensity on his face like I got you, yeah man, 0:34:57.880 --> 0:34:59.560 and yeah he was like don't where I got you. 0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:02.319 And it's kept going and then like like you said 0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:04.719 the apology him just like, oh my god, I can't 0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:05.600 believe I just said that. 0:35:06.320 --> 0:35:10.880 And Pete mccree's understanding, like, bro, you're delirious. We're all delirious, 0:35:10.920 --> 0:35:11.880 so you know. 0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:14.279 So yeah, No, that that was that was really dope 0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:18.759 because because Garrett, because this head he told his white people, 0:35:19.080 --> 0:35:21.040 it was like, nah, you want me dead, but but 0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:22.120 get the away for me. 0:35:23.040 --> 0:35:24.319 And I thought it was really good. 0:35:24.760 --> 0:35:27.600 Like all of it added up to his monologue about 0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:29.960 like what I've been through like and why I would 0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:31.879 help you, like later on when. 0:35:31.800 --> 0:35:33.160 He talked about like his life. 0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:36.640 Mm hmmm, So what did you think about the conversation 0:35:36.680 --> 0:35:38.440 where Pete's telling Ray how he thinks this is a 0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:41.759 battle of the mind and not the physical, and that 0:35:41.840 --> 0:35:44.000 he doesn't hate anybody enough to win, so when the 0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:45.920 time comes, he'll just sit down and die peacefully. 0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:49.400 I thought he was full of shit. I thought he 0:35:49.480 --> 0:35:50.600 was full of shit. I ain't gonna live. 0:35:51.280 --> 0:35:53.360 I didn't think that, like you sign up for this 0:35:54.160 --> 0:35:57.040 at that point because I didn't know his backstory. Though, like, 0:35:57.120 --> 0:35:59.279 once I found out the backstory, that made a lot 0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:02.279 more sense. When he was explaining there was he was 0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:05.200 helping people throughout the whole time. Yeah, but it could 0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:06.719 have been, like dude said, to get in their head 0:36:06.760 --> 0:36:08.879 and then when we get close. That's what I thought 0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:11.000 before I heard the backstory. When I heard the backstory, 0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:13.840 it's true now, like he was being authentic when he 0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:15.560 said that. But in the moment, I didn't think that 0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:17.160 he was saying that if you got that far, you 0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:19.600 would just sit down like a plot. 0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:23.480 I thought that was I thought that would be the twist. Interesting. 0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:27.160 Even even so, I feel I feel why you would 0:36:27.160 --> 0:36:29.680 think that. I always believed him after he said that 0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:34.279 shit about it not being about anything, but moments I 0:36:34.360 --> 0:36:37.120 believed him. I think he thought he was going there 0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:39.319 to help people. I don't think Pete ever really thought 0:36:39.320 --> 0:36:39.880 he was gonna win. 0:36:40.680 --> 0:36:41.080 I don't. 0:36:41.160 --> 0:36:44.000 I think Pete went there to help other people. And 0:36:44.080 --> 0:36:45.840 he even said that if I will get to that 0:36:45.880 --> 0:36:48.719 part later, but if I win, my wish is going 0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:52.000 to be to help others. And I think that's what 0:36:52.160 --> 0:36:54.600 he was going for. So when he said that, I 0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:56.520 believed him. He's like, when I get tired, I'm gonna 0:36:56.600 --> 0:36:59.560 sit down and die peacefully. I believe one hundred percent. 0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:02.759 I mean he was. He was so believable that, like, 0:37:03.600 --> 0:37:05.320 at one point I thought he was just a figment 0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:07.880 of somebody's imagination, whether it was Ray or something. I 0:37:07.960 --> 0:37:11.239 did have that thought. I know, yeah, because I know. 0:37:11.880 --> 0:37:16.520 Steven Spielwerk, he but Stephen King, he put supernatural stuff 0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:19.400 in his movies, right, so I thought that was gonna 0:37:19.400 --> 0:37:19.759 be something. 0:37:19.760 --> 0:37:21.440 I was like, man, what was this motherfucking not real? 0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:22.840 He's just like a figurment of somebody. 0:37:23.120 --> 0:37:25.359 Especially when he when he fell asleep and woke back up, 0:37:26.000 --> 0:37:27.600 I was just like, wait a minute, hold on, what's 0:37:27.640 --> 0:37:27.840 going on? 0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:29.440 So for a while I did think that. 0:37:29.840 --> 0:37:32.399 I thought that I realized everybody was talking to him. Yeah, 0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:34.560 so I was like, Okay, I'm good because I was that. 0:37:34.640 --> 0:37:37.239 Was gonna oh my god. 0:37:38.760 --> 0:37:40.480 Keep him going like he's somebody in his mind to 0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:43.040 keep him going. Yeah, keep him like moving. 0:37:44.400 --> 0:37:46.279 Like I'm sick of seeing movies, like right right, right, 0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:55.160 be real can wear with a big scar down his face, 0:37:55.239 --> 0:37:57.239 like I'm not trying to see this ship. 0:37:57.360 --> 0:37:58.640 That's how he died, and like. 0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:03.799 I died in Long Walks and they cut my face. 0:38:04.760 --> 0:38:06.399 Get the funk out of here, man. But no, I'm 0:38:06.440 --> 0:38:10.520 glad that's not the case. But Harkness, Harkness I found 0:38:10.560 --> 0:38:12.760 to be a very interesting character. But he's been documenting 0:38:12.800 --> 0:38:18.080 the whole thing. But he's somehow broken his ankles to him. 0:38:18.640 --> 0:38:22.160 Getting shot because he can't walk. But that one of 0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:26.440 the worst ones, was it? Man? Like he watched. 0:38:31.880 --> 0:38:35.040 Yeah after this, uhlu, Skywalker tells him they officially made 0:38:35.080 --> 0:38:38.040 it one hundred miles. But the question I want to 0:38:38.040 --> 0:38:40.240 ask Ken, what did you think about the discussion about 0:38:40.440 --> 0:38:44.799 wishes where Pete says that his wish is for there 0:38:44.880 --> 0:38:46.839 to be two winners for the Long Walk. 0:38:47.719 --> 0:38:51.400 I thought it was beautiful man, like he had developed 0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:57.680 such uh a kinshaw, this bond with this random white 0:38:57.760 --> 0:39:01.400 guy that he met on this walk that and that 0:39:01.920 --> 0:39:05.680 he would love that both of them could survive this 0:39:06.680 --> 0:39:10.200 and do good in the world. That was what he 0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:13.759 wished for so and nothing else. Man, that was a 0:39:13.920 --> 0:39:16.880 very self selfless act on his path. 0:39:17.000 --> 0:39:18.279 So I thought it was dope. 0:39:19.080 --> 0:39:20.560 Yeah, that was a good part from what I could 0:39:20.640 --> 0:39:21.800 understand his dialogue. 0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:26.520 That was one of the thing I thought that that 0:39:26.640 --> 0:39:28.600 was good. He had, he had some bars. 0:39:28.920 --> 0:39:29.880 I'll through this character. 0:39:30.640 --> 0:39:32.440 It was so good and I keep going to this. 0:39:32.800 --> 0:39:35.120 It was so good because later on you found out 0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:37.960 that he had lived this whole life alone. He had 0:39:38.000 --> 0:39:40.440 been going through all these places and this was the 0:39:40.480 --> 0:39:42.040 first time were one of the few times in his 0:39:42.120 --> 0:39:44.480 life that he really got to connect to somebody and 0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:47.359 he didn't want to, Like he could understand somebody taking 0:39:47.400 --> 0:39:50.320 this walk, building a connection and did you losing that 0:39:50.440 --> 0:39:51.879 person at the end of the walk. 0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:53.320 It was so good how he put that. 0:39:53.800 --> 0:39:55.560 But let me throw this back at y'all. I don't 0:39:55.560 --> 0:39:57.520 think he was talking about himself and. 0:39:58.120 --> 0:40:00.480 Ray Well, that wouldn't move be possible, right exactly? Yeah, 0:40:00.560 --> 0:40:01.840 So that's why I think it was. 0:40:01.880 --> 0:40:06.280 Even more beautiful because it was completely removed from himself. 0:40:06.760 --> 0:40:08.680 Because in order for him to win and even get 0:40:08.760 --> 0:40:11.640 the wish, Ray would have to be shot. So he 0:40:11.840 --> 0:40:14.439 was trying to make it to where future people could 0:40:14.520 --> 0:40:18.080 still win this game, but win it with somebody. 0:40:18.640 --> 0:40:21.719 That's why I thought this was just agree amazing. 0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:26.640 But it was like a flix, it was a flex. 0:40:26.960 --> 0:40:29.839 It was a like, I mean, once I win this ship, 0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:35.880 I still persist that. I don't know that he actually 0:40:35.960 --> 0:40:36.880 thought he was gonna win it. 0:40:36.960 --> 0:40:40.239 I mean, he signed pretty confident he was one of 0:40:40.280 --> 0:40:42.640 the most people. Yeah, he could win it. 0:40:42.880 --> 0:40:45.839 Yeah, he said, I've been walking all my life, y'all 0:40:46.160 --> 0:40:46.600 ship on me. 0:40:47.640 --> 0:40:50.360 I don't think he put it like that he exactly, 0:40:50.800 --> 0:40:53.480 especially when on me. I don't think it was a 0:40:53.560 --> 0:40:55.680 level of cockiness to saying that he was looking around. 0:40:55.760 --> 0:40:58.640 But at the same time, he also said that if 0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:00.759 this was a physical content, because I would win, But 0:41:00.880 --> 0:41:02.200 it's mental things exactly. 0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:03.600 That's why I disagree with you. But it seemed like 0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:06.000 his mental was all the way there. He like, he's. 0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:10.040 That's fine, but we're going back to what y'all just said. 0:41:10.400 --> 0:41:13.719 I disagree with I don't think he was cocky and 0:41:13.880 --> 0:41:15.279 being like, y'all ain't got ship on me. 0:41:15.320 --> 0:41:15.799 I'm gonna win. 0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:17.160 No, no, no, no, no, that's not I don't know. 0:41:17.320 --> 0:41:19.080 I'm sorry, that's just what I was adding to it. 0:41:19.200 --> 0:41:21.000 I was adding like he ain't got I'm just saying that. 0:41:21.400 --> 0:41:23.279 He did say I've been walking all my life. I 0:41:23.320 --> 0:41:24.239 feel like I can win it. 0:41:24.400 --> 0:41:26.640 And they also looked at stabbings and said he's so 0:41:26.800 --> 0:41:30.200 in shape, he's a problem. He could easily win. He 0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:35.120 would have wanted, right, So, yeah, yeah, I don't. 0:41:35.239 --> 0:41:36.640 I don't. I don't know. Maybe I need to see 0:41:36.640 --> 0:41:37.239 it again. I don't. 0:41:37.239 --> 0:41:40.120 I never got cockiness at all from Pete. 0:41:40.760 --> 0:41:41.080 I got. 0:41:41.200 --> 0:41:44.080 If I win this, I'm gonna help people. When I 0:41:44.160 --> 0:41:47.000 get tired, I'm just gonna sit down and just die peacefully. 0:41:47.000 --> 0:41:48.680 Because if if he's that cocky, why would he even 0:41:48.719 --> 0:41:49.560 say that I will. 0:41:50.040 --> 0:41:51.160 He didn't look concerned. 0:41:51.520 --> 0:41:51.919 He did. 0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:56.239 The only person one time, But that's what I'm saying. 0:41:56.239 --> 0:41:58.000 He's the only one that didn't go through anything. 0:41:58.560 --> 0:42:01.399 It just seemed like he was fine, And everybody seemed 0:42:01.400 --> 0:42:04.680 like everybody that was walking either was sick, tired with 0:42:04.800 --> 0:42:09.680 deception of the with the Native American guy CALLI yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:42:10.040 --> 0:42:11.759 those two are the only ones that just seemed like 0:42:11.760 --> 0:42:12.279 they were fine. 0:42:12.280 --> 0:42:16.640 It was no problem but I but that didn't give 0:42:16.719 --> 0:42:18.400 me cocky. That that gave me. 0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:20.960 I am content being here and helping these guys to 0:42:21.040 --> 0:42:21.360 the finish. 0:42:21.480 --> 0:42:23.520 I'm with you. That's why I said. I pulled back, 0:42:23.719 --> 0:42:28.399 like on the cocky came back, came up. 0:42:29.840 --> 0:42:34.920 All but get about it, but no, like no, it's 0:42:35.000 --> 0:42:37.640 more for more of a confidence. He seemed very confident 0:42:37.800 --> 0:42:39.239 that he could that he can get there. 0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:43.200 Yeah, okay, Rob, what do you what do you think 0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:45.240 we finally get to hear about raised wish. 0:42:47.280 --> 0:42:49.120 Raised wish that? 0:42:49.320 --> 0:42:51.600 Oh yeah, yeah, I thought that was interesting, something something 0:42:52.000 --> 0:42:53.880 I kind of figured that's what it was. 0:42:53.960 --> 0:42:54.920 It was something that happened. 0:42:55.360 --> 0:42:59.440 He obviously made it seem like he wanted to to 0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:03.040 to it at the general yeah or whatever, like like 0:43:03.160 --> 0:43:06.640 he he just snatched his number from him and all 0:43:06.680 --> 0:43:08.279 that type of shit, and he didn't respect them. 0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:09.560 So I said, pas real fast. 0:43:09.640 --> 0:43:12.359 I was that part bothered me. He shouldn't have done 0:43:12.360 --> 0:43:14.759 that because that gave everything away, right, So. 0:43:14.880 --> 0:43:17.520 So yeah, it seemed like, yeah, he had an issue 0:43:17.560 --> 0:43:22.480 with him and even even uh mccree's asked, what's up 0:43:22.520 --> 0:43:24.000 with you in the general major? 0:43:24.440 --> 0:43:27.200 Right? Right? Yeah? I wish they had left that out right, right, 0:43:27.280 --> 0:43:29.520 so I kind of, unfortunately, kind of what did you think? 0:43:30.200 --> 0:43:30.760 What's happening? 0:43:31.200 --> 0:43:33.080 I thought the same thing Rogers said. I was like, Oh, 0:43:33.120 --> 0:43:35.160 he's got an issue with the Major. The Major did 0:43:35.239 --> 0:43:37.880 something to him personally, and that's why he's I thought. 0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:39.879 He just had an issue with the whole thing. I didn't. 0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:42.240 They didn't give it away for me, and I was wondering, 0:43:42.320 --> 0:43:44.480 did y'all it seemed like he was kind of famous? 0:43:44.520 --> 0:43:47.000 Is it because he was in his home state? Okay, okay, 0:43:47.360 --> 0:43:47.799 that was all? 0:43:48.400 --> 0:43:50.680 Yeah, because I guess these people are looked at like celebrities, 0:43:51.040 --> 0:43:52.440 the same way we look at football. 0:43:52.120 --> 0:43:54.239 Players and baseball players and whatever else. 0:43:55.000 --> 0:43:57.080 But yeah, yeah, I'm glad you brought that part up 0:43:57.080 --> 0:43:59.400 because I was like the beginning of the movie, I 0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:02.040 was like, oh, something here, and you could have done 0:44:02.080 --> 0:44:03.680 this just as well without including that. 0:44:04.200 --> 0:44:07.880 That wouldn't have given away anything. But I like that 0:44:08.000 --> 0:44:11.200 the flashbacks showed the state of the world though. Yeah, 0:44:11.280 --> 0:44:12.959 like you could just get pulled out of your crib 0:44:13.560 --> 0:44:15.239 tried in the street and I was like, oh, okay, 0:44:15.280 --> 0:44:16.120 so that's what time it is. 0:44:19.160 --> 0:44:21.200 It made it made it make so much sense. The 0:44:21.320 --> 0:44:22.880 car ride with his mom and she was like you 0:44:22.920 --> 0:44:24.080 don't gotta do it. He was like, no, I do 0:44:24.280 --> 0:44:26.080 I have to do this because he's still holding in 0:44:26.120 --> 0:44:28.080 his head. You shot my dad now in the street 0:44:28.239 --> 0:44:30.360 for him trying to teach me about the world like that. 0:44:30.640 --> 0:44:32.000 That was fired. 0:44:32.120 --> 0:44:35.600 But I felt Pete in that your dad didn't have 0:44:35.640 --> 0:44:38.960 to do that because the general gave of the major 0:44:39.280 --> 0:44:43.800 gave him an option. He said, you know, ren renounce 0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:45.840 everything that you've done and I'll let you live. And 0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:48.840 he was just like, no, that was standing up for myself, 0:44:48.960 --> 0:44:50.120 believe in herself. 0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:52.520 I think that made you a powerful I think that 0:44:52.640 --> 0:44:54.560 made it more powerful. His dad to be teaching him 0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:57.120 that behind his back and then go out in the street. 0:44:57.160 --> 0:44:59.520 He couldn't be like, I know, you know what, you're right, 0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:02.319 his son don't look at him the same, even though 0:45:02.320 --> 0:45:03.359 he still has his son. 0:45:03.640 --> 0:45:07.359 But just from a moral standpoint, his dad couldn't do that. Yeah, 0:45:07.360 --> 0:45:09.719 you gotta stand for that. You can. 0:45:09.880 --> 0:45:12.520 You can be like, okay, I renounce it all, I apologize, 0:45:12.520 --> 0:45:15.160 I won't do it again. Then when you get back inside, like, son, 0:45:15.239 --> 0:45:16.279 this is the world we live in. 0:45:16.320 --> 0:45:18.520 Where you have to that would have been the smart 0:45:18.560 --> 0:45:18.840 thing to do. 0:45:18.920 --> 0:45:20.880 I agree, but I do I think it made for 0:45:21.120 --> 0:45:24.040 a hell of a character and show why he would 0:45:24.120 --> 0:45:26.200 go through so much and be in this long walk 0:45:26.400 --> 0:45:27.560 because of what his dad talking me. 0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:29.279 How would his son look at him if he would 0:45:29.320 --> 0:45:29.880 have done it right? 0:45:29.960 --> 0:45:33.200 If you done what are you teaching me bullshit? At 0:45:33.280 --> 0:45:34.919 least my son would be alive and I'd be alive 0:45:35.000 --> 0:45:35.560 to talk to him. 0:45:35.600 --> 0:45:38.799 I don't I don't know if the son would look 0:45:38.840 --> 0:45:43.239 at his dad as teaching bullshit if he explained to him. 0:45:43.280 --> 0:45:46.120 The reason why he renounced it basically is like I 0:45:46.280 --> 0:45:48.680 need to have us at the table. If I'm not around, 0:45:49.280 --> 0:45:51.880 then I'm unable to commit to help. 0:45:51.760 --> 0:45:52.160 In the fight. 0:45:52.400 --> 0:45:55.120 I don't disagree with that, but I do think it's 0:45:55.200 --> 0:45:57.879 more powerful and impactful on his life that he did 0:45:57.920 --> 0:45:58.399 it that way. 0:45:58.520 --> 0:46:01.800 No, because both of them motherfucker's dad boom. 0:46:02.640 --> 0:46:04.359 That is where I was gonna go right when Kim 0:46:04.480 --> 0:46:08.840 was done talking. It's basically selfish. 0:46:09.040 --> 0:46:09.879 That's realistic. Though. 0:46:11.040 --> 0:46:14.400 The people that we see that are really like for 0:46:14.600 --> 0:46:16.719 their calls, like they're not gonna get up in front 0:46:16.760 --> 0:46:18.440 of people and say, oh, well, you don't got to 0:46:18.480 --> 0:46:19.759 go to jail if you just say this. 0:46:19.960 --> 0:46:22.799 They don't say in jail like I can still talk 0:46:22.800 --> 0:46:24.239 to you while I'm in jail, That's true. 0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:27.560 But yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's why this is different. 0:46:27.920 --> 0:46:29.960 You know what I'm saying, like you just shot me 0:46:30.040 --> 0:46:31.759 in the head in front of my wife and child. 0:46:32.120 --> 0:46:34.920 Because I wouldn't just lie to you and say I 0:46:35.040 --> 0:46:37.440 renounce it. I can continue doing what I'm doing one 0:46:37.480 --> 0:46:39.879 time back in the house. But I think the dad 0:46:39.960 --> 0:46:41.920 thought it's more important for you to see this. This 0:46:41.960 --> 0:46:43.360 is how they're gonna do is more important. 0:46:43.400 --> 0:46:49.160 Wheah, What makes you think that they haven't already been 0:46:49.280 --> 0:46:51.440 seeing that with other people. 0:46:52.080 --> 0:46:53.640 They may have been seeing it, And I do think 0:46:53.680 --> 0:46:55.080 that's why he was so interested in it, But I 0:46:55.120 --> 0:46:57.480 don't think it was personalized for him. That made it 0:46:57.600 --> 0:47:00.480 personal for him, That made it personal for him to 0:47:00.640 --> 0:47:03.040 go out there for the long walk. And I could 0:47:03.080 --> 0:47:04.640 wish for a million dollars, I could wish for all 0:47:04.640 --> 0:47:06.400 these things, but I'm gonna wish for his gun and 0:47:06.440 --> 0:47:08.719 I'm gonna shoot him so this ends, and this whole 0:47:08.760 --> 0:47:11.480 regime goes down. That comes from his dad getting shot 0:47:11.600 --> 0:47:13.839 right there. Yes, that don't happen if his dad don't 0:47:13.840 --> 0:47:19.520 get But for for the point of if this is real, 0:47:20.400 --> 0:47:23.480 what his dad did was stupid. God, what his dad 0:47:23.600 --> 0:47:26.680 did was fucking stupid. I've been doing this behind the 0:47:26.719 --> 0:47:30.439 government's back. I can continue trying to do this behind 0:47:30.480 --> 0:47:33.640 the government's back because even if I can't do it 0:47:33.719 --> 0:47:36.080 to the same capacity that I've been doing it previously, 0:47:36.719 --> 0:47:39.600 I might be able to inspire a greg or a 0:47:39.800 --> 0:47:44.200 Marcus or a Sean to be more powerful. 0:47:44.480 --> 0:47:47.520 I can't do that dead, because who even knows I'm dead? 0:47:48.239 --> 0:47:51.520 My family and the major I'm not really a martyr. 0:47:51.560 --> 0:47:53.959 I'm only a martyr to my son and now making 0:47:54.040 --> 0:47:56.120 my son go risk his life. And the whole point 0:47:56.360 --> 0:47:59.200 was all of y'all abandoned the mother, and it. 0:47:59.280 --> 0:48:02.160 Was all of you abandoned her. And he was doing 0:48:02.239 --> 0:48:05.720 this for He was just like his dad, for revenge. 0:48:06.160 --> 0:48:08.080 And that's it. That's it. 0:48:08.320 --> 0:48:10.800 So yeah, But but you know what, the fact that 0:48:11.000 --> 0:48:15.480 we all have different takes on why this works shows 0:48:15.560 --> 0:48:19.000 how much of a good decision it was to do 0:48:19.200 --> 0:48:20.320 this in the film. 0:48:20.600 --> 0:48:22.880 Shows that this is fucking good ass writing. It was. 0:48:23.440 --> 0:48:25.319 So what did you think about the convo between Pete 0:48:25.360 --> 0:48:27.640 and Ray about the families sitting on the side of 0:48:27.640 --> 0:48:27.880 the road. 0:48:27.920 --> 0:48:28.880 I found this very interesting. 0:48:28.920 --> 0:48:30.960 I'm Rod I'm gonna actually know ab I'm an kick 0:48:31.120 --> 0:48:32.480 you because Rob probably gonna have to think about it. 0:48:32.520 --> 0:48:34.600 Can't remember this part. I'm definitely I remember the part. 0:48:35.360 --> 0:48:37.560 I can't remember what the cono. 0:48:37.640 --> 0:48:39.880 I remember the scene, but the specifics of the combo. 0:48:40.040 --> 0:48:40.440 Let me down. 0:48:41.600 --> 0:48:44.879 Let me down about Rob's face that he was like, wait, 0:48:44.960 --> 0:48:46.840 I remember this happening, but I don't remember what happened. 0:48:46.880 --> 0:48:50.560 Really, I forgot. This sounds like text. All right, does 0:48:50.600 --> 0:48:51.400 anybody else remember? 0:48:51.800 --> 0:48:53.520 I don't won't always have to be explaining it because 0:48:53.520 --> 0:48:56.880 it makes me like, I think it helps actually nobody. 0:48:56.920 --> 0:48:59.000 Okay, So this is when there. 0:48:58.960 --> 0:49:00.399 Was like these families in the side of the road 0:49:00.840 --> 0:49:03.919 and they were watching and he and and Ray looked 0:49:03.960 --> 0:49:05.880 at it, like, look at these fucking assholes. They just 0:49:05.880 --> 0:49:09.000 want to see people die. But then Pete was like, well, 0:49:09.080 --> 0:49:13.359 look you see that, but I see a family being 0:49:13.440 --> 0:49:15.839 together in this moment. That's why I want to start 0:49:15.840 --> 0:49:18.359 with your ass. So it sounds like some raw ass ship. 0:49:18.400 --> 0:49:19.719 That's what piss me off. 0:49:22.640 --> 0:49:25.640 It is it is something I would say, yeah, yeah, 0:49:25.640 --> 0:49:28.319 I probably would see this is the way the way 0:49:28.400 --> 0:49:30.640 Pete saw yeah, because you know, I don't like to 0:49:30.719 --> 0:49:34.200 think negative that people have this negative ideal on things, 0:49:35.200 --> 0:49:36.919 you know, and yeah, it's just it's a family. 0:49:37.000 --> 0:49:39.000 So yeah, I agree more so with what Pete was 0:49:39.040 --> 0:49:40.040 saying versus. 0:49:41.400 --> 0:49:44.040 I thought that was brilliant in the sense of like, 0:49:44.640 --> 0:49:47.920 you see one thing, I see one thing and pective. 0:49:47.920 --> 0:49:50.360 It's all about perspective, and there's a saying that says, like, 0:49:50.480 --> 0:49:52.959 the first thought that you have, that's what you've seen 0:49:53.000 --> 0:49:54.839 from the world, what the world tells you. The second 0:49:54.920 --> 0:49:57.279 thought that you have, that's your personality. 0:49:58.440 --> 0:50:01.320 I like it, and that was I just heard it. 0:50:04.200 --> 0:50:08.320 God, bro, I think I think it was really powerful 0:50:08.360 --> 0:50:09.759 for him to be able to take that step back 0:50:09.800 --> 0:50:12.000 and say, you're just saying that because you're jaded. 0:50:12.680 --> 0:50:15.080 I'm not as jaded as you. Take it, take another look. 0:50:15.080 --> 0:50:18.319 I thought it was dope. Got anything else a can? 0:50:19.280 --> 0:50:21.640 He kind of agreed to everybody. Yeah, yeah, I know 0:50:21.680 --> 0:50:23.080 we're trying to get through it. 0:50:24.400 --> 0:50:26.680 I've already settled in that it's gonna be long. 0:50:26.719 --> 0:50:29.080 But I thought that that was a really really powerful 0:50:29.080 --> 0:50:31.359 scene and it definitely lends to stuff that happens later. 0:50:32.640 --> 0:50:35.400 Number four I can't remember his name, but he's the 0:50:35.440 --> 0:50:36.880 one that tried to jump on the tank and ends 0:50:36.960 --> 0:50:38.000 up getting his legs run over. 0:50:39.120 --> 0:50:41.760 This was a this was a twofer. So that happens. 0:50:41.800 --> 0:50:45.520 And then immediately after that, Trestler, who's the guy with 0:50:45.560 --> 0:50:48.360 the radio, the brother with the dreads. He tries to 0:50:48.560 --> 0:50:52.880 just run and he gets takes his clothes off. I 0:50:53.080 --> 0:50:55.839 can't believe y'all laughing, y'all dirty bro, because Man, they 0:50:55.880 --> 0:50:58.160 were trying to force me in the whole movie. We 0:50:58.320 --> 0:50:59.960 knew why wait what they're talking about? Hi? 0:51:00.000 --> 0:51:01.719 I feel like they were trying to force him in 0:51:02.320 --> 0:51:05.399 our perspective the whole movie. The guy with the radio, 0:51:05.480 --> 0:51:06.319 y'all talking about he. 0:51:06.400 --> 0:51:08.800 Was new, No, he wasn't new, but he didn't have 0:51:08.960 --> 0:51:09.520 any line. 0:51:09.600 --> 0:51:11.400 He kept coming up and dudes like, man, bro, who 0:51:11.719 --> 0:51:12.200 I thought that was? 0:51:12.280 --> 0:51:15.600 No, that's that was racist? 0:51:15.600 --> 0:51:17.239 And now another not you're bringing up. I don't know 0:51:17.280 --> 0:51:18.359 what happened to that black guy. 0:51:18.360 --> 0:51:23.960 I think that wasn't the same. That was the Yeah. 0:51:24.000 --> 0:51:29.040 I think he got shot on the hill, definitely. Yeah. 0:51:29.560 --> 0:51:32.239 He was always right there like no, no, not you? 0:51:33.320 --> 0:51:37.200 That was that was different about him. Yeah, I really did. 0:51:37.320 --> 0:51:39.000 He had to have gotten killed on the hill. 0:51:39.760 --> 0:51:42.080 They didn't make it clear because they they forced him 0:51:42.120 --> 0:51:43.640 in like they warning him. 0:51:43.719 --> 0:51:45.480 Yeah, that this guy was definite. 0:51:45.840 --> 0:51:48.319 Yeah, this seemed like another guy that we haven't really 0:51:48.440 --> 0:51:50.400 we hadn't really seen. And that's when he came in 0:51:50.480 --> 0:51:54.600 with the radio when it was like yeah, even Steppens 0:51:54.680 --> 0:51:55.560 had to join in on that. 0:51:56.760 --> 0:51:56.960 Yeah. 0:51:57.040 --> 0:52:00.560 So when they when they showed him getting in trying 0:52:00.560 --> 0:52:02.360 to run off and get shot, AB, what did you 0:52:02.400 --> 0:52:04.240 think that this was them telling us is happening? 0:52:04.760 --> 0:52:05.080 I don't know. 0:52:05.120 --> 0:52:07.080 I didn't really take anything other I did snicker a 0:52:07.080 --> 0:52:11.000 little bit, but I didn't really tell I didn't get 0:52:11.040 --> 0:52:11.839 the message from it though. 0:52:12.000 --> 0:52:12.759 I didn't really get him. 0:52:13.400 --> 0:52:15.400 I don't think there was a message per Sae, anybody 0:52:15.400 --> 0:52:17.680 else anything. Before I started yapping, they were breaking, they 0:52:17.719 --> 0:52:22.840 were I thought, started to kick in. Now show the 0:52:22.880 --> 0:52:26.080 different facts. Everybody's so tired and it's gonna do ship. 0:52:26.120 --> 0:52:26.799 It's crazy now. 0:52:27.680 --> 0:52:29.600 And they kind of really explained it later on when 0:52:29.640 --> 0:52:32.120 it comes when it came to os, did they try 0:52:32.200 --> 0:52:35.200 did they say that overnight that they had a time 0:52:35.320 --> 0:52:35.760 to stop? 0:52:37.920 --> 0:52:41.440 So it was straight straight walking only the general sleep major. 0:52:41.560 --> 0:52:43.839 That's why he wasn't supposed to go No, the major 0:52:43.920 --> 0:52:44.400 is able to. 0:52:44.400 --> 0:52:46.480 Go home and sleep, but he wasn't supposed to. Remember, 0:52:47.040 --> 0:52:49.520 he was like it's it's a secret that the major's 0:52:49.600 --> 0:52:53.280 what's rumored. They go showering, sleep, but they weren't supposed 0:52:53.280 --> 0:52:55.160 to know that. They thought he was up all night 0:52:55.200 --> 0:52:57.480 with them doing the same thing. Set in the same 0:52:57.560 --> 0:52:59.160 example for the America. 0:52:58.840 --> 0:53:03.719 Right, damn, you're right, Spike, yep, Wow, yeah, they don't. 0:53:03.760 --> 0:53:04.480 The rest of them don't. 0:53:04.800 --> 0:53:08.080 Crazy. I couldn't figure that out. He did a first yep, But. 0:53:08.160 --> 0:53:11.719 Yeah, I thought that part was just like, oh my god, man, 0:53:11.880 --> 0:53:14.280 like this kid who seemed to be the more positive 0:53:14.280 --> 0:53:16.080 one because he didn't really talk that much, but he 0:53:16.239 --> 0:53:18.239 was like holding the radio and all that. But after 0:53:18.320 --> 0:53:20.279 he sees that one dude get his legs run over 0:53:20.360 --> 0:53:23.759 and shot, that was enough. He breaks because at first 0:53:23.800 --> 0:53:25.759 I was like, why is he getting naked? But that's 0:53:25.960 --> 0:53:27.239 if you see a. 0:53:27.239 --> 0:53:29.239 Lot of people that have mental health breaks, that's sometimes the. 0:53:31.040 --> 0:53:33.680 Take off their clothes. It's like, no one really understands why. 0:53:34.840 --> 0:53:39.280 But yeah, anyways, so Ken, what did you think about 0:53:39.320 --> 0:53:42.800 the scene where Hank loses it and he turns and 0:53:42.920 --> 0:53:46.359 he walks towards the trucks with the lights. He gets 0:53:46.360 --> 0:53:48.440 shot in the stomach. In my opinion, they do that 0:53:48.520 --> 0:53:52.040 to make him suffer and then Art goes running back 0:53:52.120 --> 0:53:53.959 for him. So what did you think about this scene? 0:53:54.239 --> 0:53:59.200 This shit, This was a really dope, powerful scene. 0:54:00.600 --> 0:54:05.279 Because Hank throughout the movie was hanging on and he 0:54:05.360 --> 0:54:08.000 had talked about the gun, and we saw when those 0:54:08.080 --> 0:54:09.920 others two got killed, he had that gun. 0:54:10.000 --> 0:54:13.759 He was looking at it, and we could pretty much 0:54:14.000 --> 0:54:19.600 guess what happened to it just Art's reaction to it. 0:54:20.840 --> 0:54:24.320 You know, Olsen was walking this whole time, like he 0:54:24.440 --> 0:54:26.719 looked like the walking Dead, bro. You could see him 0:54:26.719 --> 0:54:30.400 started deterioration. Yeah, like he was. He was barely hanging on. 0:54:30.560 --> 0:54:33.319 But what I loved is that we got insight into 0:54:33.400 --> 0:54:35.880 what happened to the other people because Steppings came up, 0:54:35.960 --> 0:54:37.960 who they didn't really mess with, was like, hey man, 0:54:38.120 --> 0:54:40.600 you need to check on your boy because I think 0:54:40.680 --> 0:54:41.279 he's done. 0:54:41.719 --> 0:54:42.680 You know, he's exhausted. 0:54:42.760 --> 0:54:44.799 And he went up and then he was he said 0:54:44.920 --> 0:54:48.400 he said something about the god in the garden and 0:54:48.520 --> 0:54:52.000 then he took off and ran got shot in the gut, 0:54:52.960 --> 0:54:54.040 called out for Art. 0:54:55.040 --> 0:54:59.120 And when Art ran back, and when when Ray ran 0:54:59.239 --> 0:55:02.640 back to Art and he was like he needed me. 0:55:02.719 --> 0:55:05.600 He called me like called my name man that ship 0:55:05.760 --> 0:55:08.520 and then when when ods was like, I dad it wrong. 0:55:08.719 --> 0:55:09.960 I was like, oh my god. 0:55:11.320 --> 0:55:13.160 And it was really dope that you could still hear 0:55:13.280 --> 0:55:16.320 in the back of my warning first warning that was cold. 0:55:16.960 --> 0:55:19.279 You had this emotional scene, but it still didn't take 0:55:19.320 --> 0:55:21.359 you out of what the fuck is going on right 0:55:21.440 --> 0:55:23.319 now and didn't really like we. 0:55:23.400 --> 0:55:25.719 Spent we spent time with him. He was one of 0:55:25.760 --> 0:55:29.240 the Musketeers, but he didn't have a lot of like lines, 0:55:29.880 --> 0:55:31.720 you know. It was just kind of engaging. 0:55:32.040 --> 0:55:35.399 It was like engaging and interacting with everybody else as 0:55:35.440 --> 0:55:38.120 part of the friend group, you know. But he was 0:55:38.200 --> 0:55:40.240 just he was just that guy that's just always around. 0:55:40.320 --> 0:55:43.520 But it was really centering on Ray and mccrees the 0:55:43.600 --> 0:55:46.800 whole time, and he was just like one of those figures. 0:55:46.840 --> 0:55:51.439 But yet when he dies, like damn, this part broke 0:55:51.520 --> 0:55:52.680 me in the theater. 0:55:52.840 --> 0:55:55.279 Boy, I was two seconds away from a thug tear. 0:55:56.800 --> 0:55:58.600 I tell you what, though, that was for me. We 0:55:58.680 --> 0:56:02.160 ain't got that yet. This this this one, this one 0:56:02.360 --> 0:56:02.880 really and I. 0:56:02.960 --> 0:56:06.080 Was saying to myself, I'm like, why am I even 0:56:06.120 --> 0:56:09.440 attached to these people? And it's just it's just because 0:56:09.480 --> 0:56:12.680 the movie is primarily dialogue and it's just we're just 0:56:12.760 --> 0:56:16.040 spending so much time with these people, and he seemed 0:56:16.080 --> 0:56:18.840 to just be not necessarily comic relief, but almost the 0:56:18.960 --> 0:56:21.040 light the more lighthearted one. 0:56:21.719 --> 0:56:25.560 And for them to choose him to make suffer. And 0:56:25.800 --> 0:56:27.719 when he's just laying on the ground, he's yelling out, 0:56:27.760 --> 0:56:29.719 I didn't do it right. I didn't do it right. 0:56:29.840 --> 0:56:32.879 And then seeing art and then having to pull him away, 0:56:33.640 --> 0:56:38.800 and this tall lanky black man just being like he 0:56:38.960 --> 0:56:42.200 called my name, he picked me, and I couldn't help him. 0:56:42.600 --> 0:56:45.719 Oh my god, I'm like, yo, what the look rock 0:56:46.120 --> 0:56:50.480 right now? Y'all? I didn't even know they were. But see, 0:56:50.520 --> 0:56:50.960 that's the thing. 0:56:51.040 --> 0:56:53.120 That's the thing that's so great about this movie is 0:56:53.160 --> 0:56:55.960 it makes you become homies like that because you just 0:56:56.800 --> 0:57:00.200 you mean something. Yeah, it's like you're trauma bonded. You're 0:57:00.200 --> 0:57:05.200 spending all of this time, and you're also delirious. So 0:57:05.280 --> 0:57:07.600 when you're delirious, either I hate you or I love you. 0:57:07.760 --> 0:57:08.880 There's no middle ground. 0:57:09.320 --> 0:57:11.960 So I think that that this movie did that so 0:57:12.360 --> 0:57:15.120 fun well man. And it wasn't for a fetch because 0:57:16.040 --> 0:57:17.840 they didn't have to show it. They just showed us 0:57:17.880 --> 0:57:20.000 the main two people that were paying together. 0:57:20.520 --> 0:57:22.520 We don't have we we had to figure that there 0:57:22.560 --> 0:57:24.840 were other silos like about the group, they just didn't 0:57:24.840 --> 0:57:26.480 have time to cover them, and there was their silo 0:57:26.760 --> 0:57:27.640 that it was great. 0:57:28.600 --> 0:57:28.800 Yeah. 0:57:28.880 --> 0:57:32.479 Yeah, and you know arts thing. I think last new Baker, 0:57:32.680 --> 0:57:34.600 he was like, you know, I just wanted to do 0:57:34.680 --> 0:57:37.320 this just and maybe make some friends, you know. And 0:57:37.440 --> 0:57:40.760 I think I think Olsen felt like he had a plan, 0:57:41.080 --> 0:57:43.200 like he knew how to do this. He thought he did, 0:57:43.840 --> 0:57:44.480 get studied up. 0:57:44.960 --> 0:57:48.280 Yeah, I did it wrong. Plan didn't work. And he said, 0:57:48.320 --> 0:57:50.080 I didn't do it right. I did it wrong. I 0:57:50.160 --> 0:57:51.320 did it wrong. Fu man. 0:57:51.640 --> 0:57:52.760 He chose the gum the whole time. 0:57:54.640 --> 0:57:58.400 Keep the gum let him down. Oh my god, man, 0:57:58.480 --> 0:57:59.439 this movie. That's what he said. 0:58:00.040 --> 0:58:01.960 He I don't know if he said that exactly, but 0:58:02.040 --> 0:58:03.880 I'm pretty certain he took the gum out and there 0:58:03.960 --> 0:58:06.800 was like this whole idea the gum stopped working for him. 0:58:07.080 --> 0:58:08.680 Yeah, he didn't say anything about the gum. He was 0:58:08.720 --> 0:58:10.480 just looking at looking at what's going on. 0:58:11.600 --> 0:58:13.600 Yeah, what you're talking about. He had talked about what 0:58:13.720 --> 0:58:16.840 the what his relationship with the gum and wife, and 0:58:16.880 --> 0:58:17.120 then he. 0:58:17.120 --> 0:58:18.440 Had this look on his face when he pulled it 0:58:18.440 --> 0:58:20.960 out and was looking at it. Yeah, that ship was 0:58:21.040 --> 0:58:24.480 crazy man. But after this, we get this revealed that 0:58:24.600 --> 0:58:27.840 Hank was married, Olsen was married, and they come up 0:58:27.840 --> 0:58:31.160 with this idea to give Hank's family some money. But 0:58:31.320 --> 0:58:34.000 Barkovich wants to be a part of the plan uh 0:58:34.160 --> 0:58:37.200 to get Hank some money, so Ray has to convince 0:58:37.320 --> 0:58:39.800 him that he's not a murderer, you know, and he's 0:58:39.880 --> 0:58:41.959 actually one of them, He's actually part of the group, 0:58:42.440 --> 0:58:45.760 which then leads to Barkovich having a breakdown and killing 0:58:45.840 --> 0:58:48.560 himself by stabbing himself in the neck and getting shot 0:58:48.640 --> 0:58:52.360 with the spoon. Yes, and the thing. Okay, before I 0:58:52.440 --> 0:58:55.240 get to my ship, Abe, what what? What do you 0:58:55.280 --> 0:58:55.920 think happened here? 0:58:56.040 --> 0:58:57.840 I did? This is one that lost me. 0:58:58.280 --> 0:59:02.080 I didn't get why he was so why was he 0:59:02.200 --> 0:59:04.720 trying to get the friendship back? 0:59:04.920 --> 0:59:05.439 I didn't. 0:59:05.480 --> 0:59:07.280 I didn't That one didn't connect. I was like, I'm 0:59:07.400 --> 0:59:08.560 I'm missing. I'm clearly missing. 0:59:08.600 --> 0:59:11.440 So I understood that part of it. I thought he 0:59:11.480 --> 0:59:12.960 was gonna bring up for something else. But I think 0:59:13.000 --> 0:59:15.320 he was trying to get the alliance part. If I'm 0:59:15.360 --> 0:59:18.720 not mistaken right, he wanted the alliance of at this point, 0:59:18.840 --> 0:59:19.800 at this stage of the game. 0:59:19.880 --> 0:59:21.320 But I think he's saying why if he was just 0:59:21.320 --> 0:59:23.960 gonna kill himself, why didn't even care about the alliance. 0:59:24.040 --> 0:59:26.480 So that's the part because I thought he had a 0:59:27.240 --> 0:59:29.440 bigger plan because he said something to somebody earlyer like. 0:59:29.440 --> 0:59:30.600 You thought I got a plan for you? 0:59:30.720 --> 0:59:33.240 Later Yeah, I'm like, so just for you just gonna 0:59:33.280 --> 0:59:36.000 kill yourself. I didn't understand that part either. Yeah, he 0:59:36.120 --> 0:59:36.680 was just talking. 0:59:37.040 --> 0:59:39.320 I think it's part of the craziness, like the craziness 0:59:39.400 --> 0:59:40.760 kicking in and early on. 0:59:41.520 --> 0:59:43.600 I think that was the recurrent theme though, And I 0:59:43.680 --> 0:59:45.680 also think that he explained it a little bit. He 0:59:45.760 --> 0:59:47.480 was like, bro, I said this earlier, thought I was 0:59:47.480 --> 0:59:48.400 talking about the wrong person. 0:59:48.480 --> 0:59:50.360 Though. It's like I've been by myself my whole life. 0:59:50.720 --> 0:59:52.440 I've been the kid that was being made fun of, 0:59:52.600 --> 0:59:55.400 and now I see people out here making friendships, making connections, 0:59:55.600 --> 0:59:58.160 and I'm the asshole this out here. I'm the asshole 0:59:58.200 --> 1:00:00.360 this out here making fun of people. Almost I called 1:00:00.480 --> 1:00:02.280 this dude to die, and then he was the last 1:00:02.360 --> 1:00:03.960 ditch effort for him to be like, no, I want 1:00:04.000 --> 1:00:05.680 to be a part of something too, And it was 1:00:05.720 --> 1:00:08.440 a reluctance. They was like, Okay, we kind of believe you, 1:00:08.520 --> 1:00:10.000 and do was just telling him what he wanted to hear, 1:00:10.040 --> 1:00:12.280 and I think he read through that. He took himself out. 1:00:12.360 --> 1:00:14.360 Oh I don't even so, I'm with you for ninety 1:00:14.360 --> 1:00:15.000 five percent of that. 1:00:15.360 --> 1:00:18.000 I don't know that he's offered with. I don't even 1:00:18.040 --> 1:00:20.960 think it mattered. But the one word that jumped out 1:00:20.960 --> 1:00:23.400 to me when he did it was legacy. He did 1:00:23.520 --> 1:00:26.040 not want his legacy to be I was the person 1:00:26.160 --> 1:00:30.400 that murdered somebody and Ray knew that. So Ray absolved 1:00:30.480 --> 1:00:32.800 him of that. So he was just like, yeah, you're 1:00:32.840 --> 1:00:34.560 not a murder man. We don't think of it that way. 1:00:34.560 --> 1:00:35.640 It's fine, it's fine. 1:00:36.000 --> 1:00:38.760 So then once he was absolved of that, he could die, 1:00:38.840 --> 1:00:40.800 he could take himself. He was like, I don't need 1:00:40.840 --> 1:00:42.200 to be here anymore, you know. 1:00:42.560 --> 1:00:44.280 So when he walked up, so the thing I was 1:00:44.320 --> 1:00:47.000 gonna say earlier, I saw that fucking spoon in his hand. 1:00:47.000 --> 1:00:48.720 I was like, bro, if he stabbed my boy Ray, 1:00:49.800 --> 1:00:51.840 that's what I thought was gonna happen. I thought either 1:00:51.880 --> 1:00:54.520 he was gonna stab Ray or he was gonna try 1:00:54.560 --> 1:00:56.320 to stab Ray and Pete was gonna jump in and 1:00:56.400 --> 1:00:58.800 get stabbed. But then when he walked away, I was like, Okay, 1:00:58.880 --> 1:01:01.160 that was weird the something happen with that spoon and 1:01:01.480 --> 1:01:04.040 when I thought that he jacked himself in the neck 1:01:04.080 --> 1:01:06.160 and I was like, Okay, that's what it was. 1:01:06.440 --> 1:01:07.800 He was at the end of his life. Just like 1:01:07.800 --> 1:01:10.040 they always say, your life lashes before your eyes where 1:01:10.080 --> 1:01:10.680 you're that, he. 1:01:11.040 --> 1:01:12.920 Was at the end of his life, and he's like, 1:01:13.120 --> 1:01:15.720 I don't want to go out of this world as 1:01:15.880 --> 1:01:18.640 being this awful person that they think I am. And 1:01:18.720 --> 1:01:21.840 he had one hundred and something miles of walking to 1:01:21.920 --> 1:01:24.400 think about that. So he was like, why didn't Pete 1:01:24.400 --> 1:01:25.680 ask me to be the part of the group. It's like, 1:01:25.720 --> 1:01:28.880 you guys really don't like me, and Ray could feel that. 1:01:29.120 --> 1:01:31.400 Ray was empathetic enough to be like, look, man, nah, 1:01:31.680 --> 1:01:32.400 don't worry about it. 1:01:32.520 --> 1:01:34.240 We don't think you're a murderer. And he's whispering you 1:01:34.400 --> 1:01:36.400 want Pete hear, because he might have been like, what 1:01:36.520 --> 1:01:40.920 the fuck we do? But nah? This this scene again 1:01:41.160 --> 1:01:42.280 was just beautiful. 1:01:42.320 --> 1:01:44.680 And the fact that when he drops they have to 1:01:44.760 --> 1:01:46.760 just keep walking. And I don't even think they showed 1:01:47.200 --> 1:01:48.000 his death because it. 1:01:48.280 --> 1:01:49.040 Was kind of faded in. 1:01:49.080 --> 1:01:51.680 They started doing them towards the end, and they only 1:01:51.720 --> 1:01:54.240 started showing the images I. 1:01:54.320 --> 1:01:56.600 Thought, I thought was great. I thought that was great. 1:01:56.680 --> 1:02:02.400 Yeah, because by this point they stopped turning around. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:02:02.400 --> 1:02:04.280 It's just it was just like part of the course 1:02:04.320 --> 1:02:05.520 at this point, like this is what happened. 1:02:05.560 --> 1:02:08.240 And they had a conversation about that earlier too. Yeah 1:02:08.240 --> 1:02:10.320 I hope I don't. Yeah, I hope I don't ever 1:02:10.360 --> 1:02:13.280 get used to that something like that. But the thing 1:02:13.360 --> 1:02:17.360 about Berkeovich, b Berkeovich was a very interesting character to 1:02:17.440 --> 1:02:20.200 me because he was clear to the bad guy of 1:02:20.360 --> 1:02:23.680 the movie, intentionally, unintentional, but I think that was just 1:02:23.800 --> 1:02:26.080 a way for him trying to have a purpose, like 1:02:26.120 --> 1:02:29.640 Michael was saying, a purpose in this group. Because remember 1:02:29.720 --> 1:02:32.560 in the very beginning, when they were introducing everybody, he 1:02:32.720 --> 1:02:35.320 made the joke about me Ma, and it was like me, 1:02:35.600 --> 1:02:40.000 you know, yeah, And remember the reaction like they everybody 1:02:40.080 --> 1:02:43.360 else got a very welcoming sort of reaction, And when 1:02:43.360 --> 1:02:45.280 he said that, they kind of clowned to be like, 1:02:45.320 --> 1:02:47.480 what the fuck look at this guy, So immediately he 1:02:47.640 --> 1:02:50.160 was like, Okay, you don't fit in. And so he 1:02:50.280 --> 1:02:52.640 had been picking and messing with people throughout the movie, 1:02:53.320 --> 1:02:55.680 and as soon as I saw it, as soon as 1:02:55.720 --> 1:02:56.240 I saw it, I was. 1:02:56.240 --> 1:02:58.720 Like, is he gonna ask Berkovich? And he didn't. 1:02:59.240 --> 1:03:02.080 The question I had is did Pete do that intentionally 1:03:02.280 --> 1:03:04.520 or did he get it distracted by Stebbins. 1:03:04.680 --> 1:03:07.280 I think Pete did it intentionally because they just weren't 1:03:07.320 --> 1:03:10.800 fucking with Barkervich because he was he was evil they. 1:03:11.080 --> 1:03:14.440 I think Pete did see him as a murderer. I 1:03:14.520 --> 1:03:18.920 think Pete's niceties only went to a certain point. Like 1:03:19.040 --> 1:03:23.120 Pete's not just like some fucking naive pushover. He saw 1:03:23.200 --> 1:03:25.960 Barkovich for who he thought Barkovich was, which was an 1:03:26.120 --> 1:03:26.840 evil person. 1:03:27.200 --> 1:03:31.160 But remember when he had asked Stebbins, and Stebbins saying 1:03:31.240 --> 1:03:36.080 fucking whatnot? Somebody says something and he started to have 1:03:36.360 --> 1:03:37.440 another conversation. 1:03:38.400 --> 1:03:39.720 It was like and it. 1:03:39.760 --> 1:03:43.800 Flows so seamlessly that it's almost like, oh, he didn't 1:03:43.840 --> 1:03:46.439 get an opportunity to ask a point. 1:03:46.640 --> 1:03:48.760 That's that's a good point, and that could be it. 1:03:49.440 --> 1:03:51.480 I think that's cool that the movie left that open ended. 1:03:51.600 --> 1:03:52.280 Yeah, because I don't know. 1:03:52.600 --> 1:03:54.440 Yeah, I don't know either. I don't know either anymore. 1:03:54.440 --> 1:03:56.080 I don't know, I don't know. 1:03:56.280 --> 1:03:59.000 But I did like this whole scene. I did like 1:03:59.080 --> 1:04:01.240 the idea that it opened up about how you want 1:04:01.280 --> 1:04:01.680 to go out. 1:04:02.240 --> 1:04:02.880 Uh. I like that. 1:04:03.000 --> 1:04:05.200 He ended he said something like We're gonna be boys forever, 1:04:06.080 --> 1:04:08.200 or I'm gonna be with you boys forever, something like that. 1:04:08.680 --> 1:04:12.200 When you're insecure, you it's it's easy to become the 1:04:12.320 --> 1:04:14.560 bad guy of the group. It's very easy because you 1:04:14.720 --> 1:04:15.480 need to find. 1:04:15.320 --> 1:04:18.080 A place, and being the bad guy is the easiest 1:04:18.120 --> 1:04:20.200 way to find a place in a group. Facts, you 1:04:20.240 --> 1:04:22.200 know what I'm saying. So did it seem like they 1:04:22.240 --> 1:04:26.120 were upset about berkeer Vishtan and or do they just 1:04:26.200 --> 1:04:26.720 keep moving? 1:04:27.120 --> 1:04:27.160 No? 1:04:27.280 --> 1:04:29.200 I think they were just upset about seeing anybody die 1:04:29.200 --> 1:04:30.440 at that point. So they were just like, we're not 1:04:30.480 --> 1:04:33.520 gonna you know, we're not gonna cry or weep or no. 1:04:33.920 --> 1:04:35.880 But they were just like, damn, but he just stab 1:04:36.000 --> 1:04:40.440 himself from the fucking nut. You know, people are just crazy. 1:05:28.240 --> 1:05:30.120 Rod was the scene where Ray ran into his mom 1:05:30.160 --> 1:05:33.400 on the sidelines and almost got shot. Touching to you, Nah, yeah, 1:05:33.400 --> 1:05:35.480 it was, and it kind of it was some foreshadow 1:05:35.520 --> 1:05:35.720 in there. 1:05:35.760 --> 1:05:38.440 I think they talked about it before because they was 1:05:38.480 --> 1:05:40.600 saying about him being in his hometown, and at first 1:05:40.640 --> 1:05:43.120 I didn't really I ain't connected like that, But when 1:05:43.160 --> 1:05:44.600 I saw I was like, okay, that's that's what they 1:05:44.640 --> 1:05:47.280 were talking about. So that moment, then him thinking that, 1:05:47.360 --> 1:05:49.760 oh shit, I made a mistake. I thought that was touching. 1:05:49.760 --> 1:05:51.320 He was like, oh man, I shouldn't have did this. 1:05:51.360 --> 1:05:53.040 I should have seened my asses home. 1:05:53.600 --> 1:05:55.680 So so yeah, just him like kind of second guess 1:05:55.760 --> 1:05:58.680 that that was really powerful moment and real right you 1:05:58.680 --> 1:06:00.160 know what I'm saying. Yeah, they've been doing this the 1:06:00.200 --> 1:06:01.840 whole time. I mean I think his feet was bleeding 1:06:01.920 --> 1:06:05.720 by this time. You can take his shoes like your feet. 1:06:06.320 --> 1:06:08.400 It just had her having to see his feet like that, 1:06:08.640 --> 1:06:10.960 like as a mother I could just imagine, and then 1:06:11.000 --> 1:06:13.560 her having to be like, it's okay, it's okay man. 1:06:13.680 --> 1:06:16.080 Yeah, that was that was crazy. Get why he didn't 1:06:16.080 --> 1:06:17.000 take no dead shoes? 1:06:17.640 --> 1:06:19.720 Yeah, back up pair of shoes, no no, no, no 1:06:20.280 --> 1:06:21.439 elers that died. 1:06:21.920 --> 1:06:22.680 It wouldn't have took you. 1:06:22.840 --> 1:06:25.840 You got warning, but your feet would have felt better, 1:06:25.960 --> 1:06:27.600 maybe even the second morning, but your feet would have 1:06:27.600 --> 1:06:28.360 felt thought. 1:06:29.000 --> 1:06:30.640 I'm like, why didn't take a back up because I 1:06:30.720 --> 1:06:32.200 feel like somebody had a pan over there. 1:06:32.680 --> 1:06:34.360 Yeah, I would have had three pair of shoes. 1:06:34.520 --> 1:06:37.800 He was step was definitely prepared man, I thought that 1:06:37.920 --> 1:06:39.920 was the most powerful scene in the movie, even beyond 1:06:39.960 --> 1:06:43.120 the end, and like just because it was brought up. 1:06:43.760 --> 1:06:46.520 He was like, you probably get a boost motivation when 1:06:46.560 --> 1:06:49.520 you see your mom. And then my boy was like, nah, 1:06:49.640 --> 1:06:52.320 it might work the other ways. See that's what I'm saying. 1:06:52.320 --> 1:06:53.160 They had talked about it. 1:06:53.760 --> 1:06:56.200 And then it looked like it was working that way 1:06:56.320 --> 1:06:59.440 for him. Hit him and turn around it and his pleased, like, 1:06:59.640 --> 1:07:01.680 I made the wrong decision. I did the wrong thing 1:07:01.960 --> 1:07:04.280 trying to run to her and she wanted him to come, 1:07:04.400 --> 1:07:06.280 but she knew the result of it, and telling him 1:07:06.320 --> 1:07:07.200 get away, man that. 1:07:07.240 --> 1:07:12.240 She was great a kid, She was good. She was good. 1:07:12.360 --> 1:07:13.760 The whole movie was. 1:07:14.000 --> 1:07:16.920 She just didn't get enough screen on the screen time, 1:07:16.960 --> 1:07:18.640 but in that scene was good. 1:07:19.400 --> 1:07:20.400 She killed it. 1:07:20.640 --> 1:07:23.280 Speaking of that, to like just those moments of him 1:07:23.880 --> 1:07:26.400 almost breaking it was it was cool to always hear 1:07:26.560 --> 1:07:28.760 not cool, but it was interesting to always hear them 1:07:28.760 --> 1:07:31.840 in the background counting off like three, two, the third 1:07:31.960 --> 1:07:34.000 one and this is the second one. It's always kind 1:07:34.040 --> 1:07:36.360 of hearing that in the back was really cool to 1:07:36.400 --> 1:07:37.240 add it to the movie. 1:07:38.600 --> 1:07:41.680 Ken, what'd you think about finally hearing Pete's story about 1:07:41.720 --> 1:07:44.560 his life, his family died. 1:07:45.120 --> 1:07:47.440 Yeah, it was it was homeless. Uncle beat him and 1:07:50.120 --> 1:07:51.960 you know what I'm saying, Yeah it was you know, 1:07:52.240 --> 1:07:56.160 I mean a straw story. Man, it was a lot. 1:07:56.440 --> 1:08:00.320 It was a lot. Trying to think about it from 1:08:00.320 --> 1:08:09.640 a racial perspective. They called for that point. He said, 1:08:09.640 --> 1:08:12.200 I I was running. 1:08:12.200 --> 1:08:14.000 He said, my uncle beatman to the lead, driuted his 1:08:14.080 --> 1:08:16.120 own damn vomit or whatever. 1:08:16.240 --> 1:08:17.920 And then he said, I've been running my whole life. 1:08:17.920 --> 1:08:19.600 And then I finally got caught through in jail, and 1:08:19.680 --> 1:08:22.400 I was like, god, damn cut his face with the 1:08:22.479 --> 1:08:26.160 wrong one and he cut me good, cut me, good old? 1:08:26.200 --> 1:08:30.040 Are you right the facts? I was thinking, how old 1:08:30.120 --> 1:08:30.320 are you? 1:08:30.720 --> 1:08:32.320 But that made sense that he's been doing his own 1:08:32.439 --> 1:08:34.639 He was ten years old. That's like, that's a lot 1:08:34.680 --> 1:08:36.960 of seven years. I feel like there's a lot of life. 1:08:37.000 --> 1:08:39.320 But man, it made it built depth in his character. 1:08:39.720 --> 1:08:41.800 It built depth and made sense like he was like, man, 1:08:41.840 --> 1:08:42.640 I'm just happy. 1:08:42.360 --> 1:08:42.720 To be here. 1:08:43.120 --> 1:08:46.320 The only thing is just like, I don't know, it's 1:08:46.400 --> 1:08:49.000 just like again, it's hard for me to take out 1:08:49.640 --> 1:08:52.000 certain parts of the movie based on my lips of 1:08:52.040 --> 1:08:53.800 spirits were like, man, the only thing I do is 1:08:53.880 --> 1:08:54.960 just I'm gonna choose love. 1:08:55.360 --> 1:08:57.479 I don't been through hell, but you know what, God 1:08:57.560 --> 1:09:01.280 got me. This is like bruh, black people, I know. 1:09:01.400 --> 1:09:04.519 And that's the part I didn't like. That's the part 1:09:04.640 --> 1:09:05.280 I didn't like. 1:09:05.479 --> 1:09:08.400 It's like, oh, so you just gonna you've been through hell, 1:09:08.520 --> 1:09:10.639 but you'll be like, oh, you know it's it's okay 1:09:10.720 --> 1:09:13.120 because I know some better way for me on the side. 1:09:16.560 --> 1:09:20.800 Yeah, I'm saying it for him and the approach, the 1:09:20.880 --> 1:09:23.080 cheek piece peace love me. 1:09:24.320 --> 1:09:31.240 I feel ken, but only because he was black man. 1:09:32.479 --> 1:09:34.120 This is always our story. 1:09:35.000 --> 1:09:38.120 I had the worst life in the world, and then 1:09:38.160 --> 1:09:39.960 I was like, you know what, I saw the light 1:09:40.880 --> 1:09:43.920 and I need to spread this, like y'all. I was like, man, 1:09:44.240 --> 1:09:45.920 I love you people if you don't get your ass 1:09:45.960 --> 1:09:49.240 to funk out my face like we had a brother 1:09:50.120 --> 1:09:54.160 I always want to be and now I done got 1:09:54.240 --> 1:10:04.040 me wool get your bubbles trip as he was, you 1:10:04.120 --> 1:10:10.080 know what, I loved it and hated it at the 1:10:10.160 --> 1:10:10.800 same time. 1:10:12.360 --> 1:10:16.679 He was. He killed that whole He was a stand 1:10:16.720 --> 1:10:17.360 out of this movie. 1:10:19.400 --> 1:10:23.000 Yeah yeah, I think he definitely. I'm looking at him 1:10:23.080 --> 1:10:25.000 now and I want to see what he does after this. 1:10:25.360 --> 1:10:30.240 Like real Roles but Collie the American guy, he grabs 1:10:30.280 --> 1:10:32.360 a gun and kills one of the soldiers before getting 1:10:32.360 --> 1:10:35.320 shot in the stomach and also made to suffer a bit, 1:10:35.400 --> 1:10:39.160 but then he kills himself before the soldier has a 1:10:39.400 --> 1:10:44.280 chance to do it. But that immediately is followed by 1:10:44.479 --> 1:10:47.519 art Abe. What do you think about how Art went out? 1:10:48.240 --> 1:10:48.679 Art Man? 1:10:49.040 --> 1:10:51.720 Even though again I could barely understand them, I still 1:10:51.760 --> 1:10:55.240 fail them. I feel ful and we all knew. I 1:10:55.439 --> 1:10:57.280 feel like it was pretty clear who the last two 1:10:57.439 --> 1:11:00.800 were gonna be. Yeah, I didn't really take away from 1:11:00.880 --> 1:11:02.479 that because it's got to be a last two where 1:11:02.479 --> 1:11:03.400 it was two main characters. 1:11:03.760 --> 1:11:06.840 But that that was rough. How they held him up 1:11:06.840 --> 1:11:07.400 for so long. 1:11:08.320 --> 1:11:13.479 Man, it was they made I get a movie props 1:11:13.680 --> 1:11:16.879 and the screenplaying hold on for making a walk interesting 1:11:17.040 --> 1:11:19.600 where you mix it up with elements of weather or 1:11:19.640 --> 1:11:23.560 you mix it up with an incline or whatever, but 1:11:23.680 --> 1:11:25.479 them having to hold it up like the mixture of 1:11:25.520 --> 1:11:27.840 ship like that, because that was touching. They did a real, 1:11:28.280 --> 1:11:29.240 real good job. 1:11:29.080 --> 1:11:29.519 Of that ship. 1:11:30.600 --> 1:11:30.800 It was. 1:11:32.040 --> 1:11:37.479 That was dope. Nah, I didn't, I didn't, but I was. 1:11:37.960 --> 1:11:41.560 I knew once he said my nose bleeding, and I 1:11:41.960 --> 1:11:45.760 was really interested in like what was happening to him? 1:11:45.840 --> 1:11:46.599 So I love that step. 1:11:46.720 --> 1:11:49.160 It was like, oh, yeah, it's internal hemorrhagy and that happens, 1:11:50.600 --> 1:11:52.519 and he was just his body was just shutting down 1:11:53.320 --> 1:11:56.680 and uh but you know him just saying you know, uh. 1:11:57.520 --> 1:11:59.880 What I found interested in this whole scene actually was 1:12:00.120 --> 1:12:04.120 was was mccree's. Peat's response, because remember this was right 1:12:04.160 --> 1:12:06.120 after Steppens was like, Yo, we can't help. 1:12:06.040 --> 1:12:09.479 Any anybody anymore, Like what are y'all doing? And uh? 1:12:10.160 --> 1:12:13.599 Up to this point, Ray is trying to help Baker 1:12:13.920 --> 1:12:16.800 move forward, and Pete like, nah, man, you fought a 1:12:16.840 --> 1:12:17.160 good fight. 1:12:17.240 --> 1:12:21.800 Bro. He said, yeah, you did good, but it's over 1:12:21.880 --> 1:12:24.280 for you, and he kind of let him go. 1:12:24.479 --> 1:12:27.200 So I don't know if the roles were reversed or 1:12:27.280 --> 1:12:29.320 he was just like, nah, there's nothing we could do 1:12:29.400 --> 1:12:30.120 to save this brother. 1:12:30.600 --> 1:12:33.599 I liked his suggestion there, even though it sounded weird, 1:12:33.640 --> 1:12:35.800 because if we keep helping each other, we're gonna put 1:12:35.800 --> 1:12:39.040 each other through more pain, like they're gonna we're gonna 1:12:39.040 --> 1:12:40.920 be out here for much longer than we have to be, 1:12:41.040 --> 1:12:42.640 and we know everybody can't make it. 1:12:42.720 --> 1:12:43.400 We can't do this. 1:12:44.280 --> 1:12:46.160 It makes it harder for the person to win. Yep, 1:12:46.280 --> 1:12:47.920 I thought that was fire. Oh I didn't take it 1:12:48.520 --> 1:12:54.320 would be merciful to art. Don't feel bad, man, if 1:12:54.320 --> 1:12:55.560 it's time for you to go, it's time for you 1:12:55.640 --> 1:12:55.800 to go. 1:12:56.280 --> 1:13:01.000 And whether uh did race it or Macree said Rod 1:13:01.040 --> 1:13:04.080 when he was like, and you made some friends along the. 1:13:04.080 --> 1:13:05.840 Way, which is what he yeah, which is what he 1:13:05.920 --> 1:13:07.920 wanted to do, said I have to make. 1:13:07.840 --> 1:13:10.680 Some friends, and you make man. When he said, promise me, 1:13:10.760 --> 1:13:11.919 you're not gonna watch. 1:13:19.080 --> 1:13:21.640 Their faces when it happened, the. 1:13:21.760 --> 1:13:26.040 Face of absolute terror, because they showed him turn around 1:13:26.200 --> 1:13:29.080 and walked straight towards the light, just like Olsen did. 1:13:29.720 --> 1:13:31.639 And then you just hear it in the background, Oh 1:13:31.800 --> 1:13:34.240 my god, and I'm going home. I'm going home. I 1:13:34.280 --> 1:13:36.519 forgot about that part. I'm gonna go home. 1:13:36.720 --> 1:13:38.519 And he had an a tense moment before that too, 1:13:38.680 --> 1:13:41.800 when he had to take a ship, like, oh yeah, yeah, 1:13:42.520 --> 1:13:42.960 we have to. 1:13:42.960 --> 1:13:46.479 Go back to that. I'm just look, I can't wait 1:13:46.479 --> 1:13:49.320 to you. I can't wait to you something I'm looking for. 1:13:51.400 --> 1:13:54.840 But but Rob's right, we can't just ignore Bro like 1:13:55.400 --> 1:13:57.519 he wasn't powerful. He did. 1:13:58.080 --> 1:13:59.920 But I'm just saying the fact that because I was 1:14:00.080 --> 1:14:01.479 what I was like what was gonna have to use 1:14:01.520 --> 1:14:05.360 the bathroom. And remember maccrees sprayed everybody like watch out, 1:14:05.439 --> 1:14:07.519 y'all said they't coming or whatever. 1:14:07.640 --> 1:14:10.000 That was Actually that was actually But. 1:14:10.000 --> 1:14:11.760 I'm glad they addressed it though, because they could have 1:14:12.400 --> 1:14:14.400 just left that out and we would have just been 1:14:14.439 --> 1:14:16.960 like how they took But I like that their shoulders 1:14:17.280 --> 1:14:17.920 because he. 1:14:17.960 --> 1:14:22.200 Was just pinch it off, yeah, hurry up, just pinch 1:14:22.240 --> 1:14:25.320 it off, man, And then he said then he was thinking, 1:14:25.479 --> 1:14:26.479 was like, hey man, you just. 1:14:28.840 --> 1:14:31.479 But it seems like they would have this sounds crazy. 1:14:31.560 --> 1:14:34.639 They they would have just shipp on themselves. Some of them. 1:14:36.160 --> 1:14:38.280 Now now now we see you talking about this, you 1:14:38.320 --> 1:14:41.000 could have moved on them. Did some of them? 1:14:41.120 --> 1:14:43.000 Okay, I'm sorry, last thing. Some of them did shoot 1:14:43.000 --> 1:14:45.120 on himself and and step and said Olsen. 1:14:44.800 --> 1:14:45.479 Did got you? 1:14:45.640 --> 1:14:45.840 Yeah? 1:14:45.840 --> 1:14:47.080 And then he was they were in front of him, 1:14:47.120 --> 1:14:51.000 so you can't spell that. You need to go check 1:14:51.000 --> 1:14:52.560 on your boy. This should have been a part of 1:14:52.560 --> 1:14:55.120 your five points. No, because it wasn't that important, he was. 1:14:55.600 --> 1:14:58.240 It wasn't. Absolutely people taking ships is not. 1:14:58.400 --> 1:15:00.880 I mean, I would assume a long either you're in 1:15:00.960 --> 1:15:03.160 your hands or you're popping the ship and you're running. 1:15:03.280 --> 1:15:06.840 No, they can't leave that up. Bron wait till you 1:15:08.520 --> 1:15:11.320 can't wait. I can't wait. It better not be next 1:15:11.360 --> 1:15:15.840 week either, So a spraying this ship right? That was 1:15:15.960 --> 1:15:18.559 wise like a murl. This is for anybody. 1:15:18.640 --> 1:15:21.640 What did y'all think about Stabbin's reveal about being the 1:15:21.720 --> 1:15:24.760 major son and his story about the rabbit and. 1:15:24.800 --> 1:15:25.439 The dog races. 1:15:25.800 --> 1:15:28.080 That was something else that I figured too. I figured 1:15:28.120 --> 1:15:31.479 that he was probably his son. Okay, Yeah, I felt 1:15:31.560 --> 1:15:36.040 stupid because when he said it. I remember at the 1:15:36.080 --> 1:15:39.280 beginning of the movie he said, good luck son. Oh 1:15:39.360 --> 1:15:42.679 I didn't catch that, That's what I'm saying. It seemed 1:15:42.720 --> 1:15:45.400 like he just said it just because that's the old 1:15:45.479 --> 1:15:48.080 man the young man. Yeah, good luck son. But he 1:15:48.280 --> 1:15:49.840 was But I remember when he said it. He was 1:15:49.880 --> 1:15:53.360 the only person he said it to, So I thought 1:15:53.400 --> 1:15:53.920 it was weird. 1:15:54.000 --> 1:15:56.400 But I never even the only The only reason why 1:15:56.400 --> 1:15:57.920 I'm saying now is because when I went back and 1:15:58.000 --> 1:16:00.840 watched it again, it's it out because now I. 1:16:00.880 --> 1:16:06.600 Know the reveal, But I never saw that ship what 1:16:06.760 --> 1:16:09.160 it was. But I had a feeling that that was 1:16:09.240 --> 1:16:09.639 his dad. 1:16:10.320 --> 1:16:11.760 I knew one of them because he was the one 1:16:11.800 --> 1:16:13.800 that knew so much about the race, right, was he 1:16:13.880 --> 1:16:16.360 the one that knew? Yeah? Yeah, And that was that's 1:16:16.400 --> 1:16:18.080 when they kept asking, like what the hell was going 1:16:18.120 --> 1:16:18.599 on with the race? 1:16:18.960 --> 1:16:21.639 And then he was like, he's the son because him 1:16:21.680 --> 1:16:24.559 being a bastard son wouldn't give him any more access 1:16:24.600 --> 1:16:25.560 to the information. 1:16:25.240 --> 1:16:27.200 About what he cared more about. He was more into 1:16:27.240 --> 1:16:28.240 it because it was dead. 1:16:28.439 --> 1:16:31.840 But but why would he care more than Ray? So yeah, 1:16:31.840 --> 1:16:33.920 I never I mean, you know, it's cool that y'all 1:16:33.960 --> 1:16:36.439 guessed it. I must have been guess. 1:16:38.320 --> 1:16:43.080 Yeah, I was saying like I was just saying, it's 1:16:43.120 --> 1:16:46.760 always only Rob. Yeah, yeah, I forgot what it was 1:16:46.840 --> 1:16:49.720 that that kind of made me think it was him. Yeah. 1:16:50.000 --> 1:16:53.519 He was like, man, say something real, because that was good. Yeah, 1:16:54.080 --> 1:16:56.240 and I love real good. But he had started to 1:16:56.360 --> 1:16:58.200 kind of warm up. They started kind of warm up 1:16:58.240 --> 1:17:00.800 to him, you know, as a and on it was 1:17:01.000 --> 1:17:03.840 very reluctant. But now it was three of them, and 1:17:04.080 --> 1:17:06.960 you know, he was like, man, you know, because he said, 1:17:07.040 --> 1:17:09.240 some people like man, say something real. But the whole 1:17:09.280 --> 1:17:11.360 thing about the rabbit though, that was that was an 1:17:11.400 --> 1:17:14.240 interesting line too. It was like it's not even flesh, 1:17:14.880 --> 1:17:16.960 he said, but just chasing him because you think you're 1:17:16.960 --> 1:17:19.240 gonna catch it, and you just never will. And I'm 1:17:19.240 --> 1:17:22.240 thinking about the system and how we're in the system 1:17:22.320 --> 1:17:25.200 and they sell the American dream, which is the rabbit 1:17:25.360 --> 1:17:28.320 and work yourself up to the top, you know. 1:17:28.720 --> 1:17:30.960 So he said that he was the white rabbit. Was 1:17:31.120 --> 1:17:32.760 not the white rabbit. He just said that he was 1:17:33.400 --> 1:17:35.160 the rabbit race. 1:17:37.520 --> 1:17:39.680 Yeah, that was the That was the main part that 1:17:39.800 --> 1:17:41.800 I was I was asking about the main part that 1:17:41.800 --> 1:17:45.680 I was focusing on. So that was a cocky statement though, right, No, 1:17:46.160 --> 1:17:48.160 that was not No, So if you think about it, right, 1:17:48.360 --> 1:17:51.840 so you could view it that way, absolutely, But when 1:17:51.920 --> 1:17:54.760 he said the rabbit isn't even flesh and blood, it's 1:17:54.840 --> 1:17:58.280 just a symbol and the dogs chase it, I think, 1:17:58.320 --> 1:18:00.280 and I could be wrong, but I was thinking that 1:18:00.560 --> 1:18:03.880 he was talking about himself and his situation with the Major, 1:18:04.520 --> 1:18:07.280 and that when he entered the race, he was really 1:18:07.560 --> 1:18:11.439 just a symbol of the Major's greed or what do 1:18:11.520 --> 1:18:13.200 you call it, like sexual. 1:18:14.800 --> 1:18:15.840 It's not a deviance, but you know what. 1:18:15.800 --> 1:18:21.240 I'm talking about, just like being a being a ho. Yes, 1:18:21.560 --> 1:18:25.960 So he when he entered the race, that's what he symbolized, 1:18:26.280 --> 1:18:29.360 was the Major going around and not caring about the 1:18:29.439 --> 1:18:32.800 fact that he's fucking around and having illegitimate children. But 1:18:32.960 --> 1:18:34.720 then when his body starts to go out, and he 1:18:34.800 --> 1:18:38.400 starts to realize that I am actually human, and now 1:18:38.479 --> 1:18:42.280 his one wish was to be invited to his father's house. 1:18:42.760 --> 1:18:44.599 But then he realized that his dad might not even 1:18:44.600 --> 1:18:45.320 know he exists. 1:18:46.640 --> 1:18:49.800 He realized that his dad might not even know that 1:18:50.000 --> 1:18:53.400 he's his son, because odds are he's probably got a 1:18:53.560 --> 1:18:57.000 bunch of illegitimate children around because the Major is the 1:18:57.120 --> 1:18:59.479 top dog in that system. 1:19:00.240 --> 1:19:02.600 So I think he just thinks that. 1:19:02.640 --> 1:19:04.679 He's just a symbol of the Major's greed and whatever. 1:19:04.840 --> 1:19:06.800 But he realizes once he's in the race that he's 1:19:06.840 --> 1:19:09.479 more than that, that he's human. But by that point 1:19:09.520 --> 1:19:10.840 it's too late for any of it to matter. 1:19:10.920 --> 1:19:12.280 See, I was wondering if he knew that it was 1:19:12.280 --> 1:19:14.280 a symbol when you say he said son at the beginning, 1:19:14.680 --> 1:19:15.080 he knew. 1:19:16.439 --> 1:19:18.679 I don't know, So I think that what they probably 1:19:18.760 --> 1:19:21.880 were doing with that was that was the fuck with Stabbins. 1:19:22.800 --> 1:19:26.160 So he says good luck son, not necessarily saying hey, 1:19:26.280 --> 1:19:30.040 good luck my son, but to Stabbins, that's. 1:19:29.920 --> 1:19:30.840 What heard his head. 1:19:30.920 --> 1:19:34.160 Yeah, yeah, yeahs oh you're calling me son, I'm here 1:19:34.280 --> 1:19:37.719 for a reason. This is going to work out, whereas 1:19:37.840 --> 1:19:39.599 the major was just like, good luck son. I don't 1:19:39.600 --> 1:19:40.840 know that he knew that he was his kid. 1:19:41.000 --> 1:19:42.800 That's interesting, but he was the only reason. 1:19:42.920 --> 1:19:44.720 The only thing is he was the only person he 1:19:44.800 --> 1:19:46.640 said it to, and that that's and then I think 1:19:46.680 --> 1:19:48.599 when he was having that conversation, when he was telling 1:19:48.680 --> 1:19:50.400 him about that, he was like, I didn't even think 1:19:50.400 --> 1:19:52.960 he even knew who I was, But when he heard 1:19:53.040 --> 1:19:54.880 him say good luck son, it was like that's when 1:19:54.920 --> 1:19:57.080 he realized was like, oh shit, he does know who 1:19:57.120 --> 1:19:58.439 I am, yet he let. 1:19:58.360 --> 1:20:00.479 Me enter in the race anyway. 1:20:00.600 --> 1:20:02.320 That's why I don't think he knew because when he 1:20:02.400 --> 1:20:05.880 gets killed, he showed nothing. So if he's gonna call 1:20:06.000 --> 1:20:08.160 him son at the beginning because he knows he's his son, 1:20:09.080 --> 1:20:10.840 then I think he would have showed a drop of 1:20:10.920 --> 1:20:12.760 emotion when he just saw his son get shot in 1:20:12.800 --> 1:20:13.080 the head. 1:20:13.439 --> 1:20:15.920 When he showed nothing, I know because I think because 1:20:16.000 --> 1:20:19.040 he he's never cared about his son this whole. 1:20:19.439 --> 1:20:21.840 But then Pooty cared enough to call him son. I 1:20:21.920 --> 1:20:24.040 think maybe I don't know, I don't know. 1:20:24.160 --> 1:20:25.559 I think it was just a fun with his head 1:20:25.600 --> 1:20:28.559 like it was a mental paradox as to what Mike 1:20:28.680 --> 1:20:31.240 was saying. He's saying it like you said the first 1:20:31.320 --> 1:20:34.519 old man to a young dude, took it as oh 1:20:34.600 --> 1:20:36.760 he recognized me, is my son. I think it was 1:20:36.760 --> 1:20:39.559 two different perspectives on it, which makes it actually more brilliant. 1:20:39.600 --> 1:20:41.120 But I think he well, we also say he has 1:20:41.120 --> 1:20:43.120 a lot of bastard sons out there anyway. I think 1:20:43.160 --> 1:20:46.280 he's just a shitty as you know father. 1:20:46.520 --> 1:20:48.240 That's the point. Yeah, so so. 1:20:48.800 --> 1:20:51.759 But since he never raised the kid, was never around, 1:20:51.840 --> 1:20:54.800 he just knew he existed, he wouldn't show any type 1:20:54.800 --> 1:20:56.479 of remorse that care for him because he don't give 1:20:56.479 --> 1:20:57.720 a fuck about him anyway. 1:20:59.320 --> 1:21:01.920 Right Always what I know, they always get onto us 1:21:01.920 --> 1:21:04.599 about getting stuck on something, but fuck it, y'all, motherfuckers 1:21:04.640 --> 1:21:04.880 came here. 1:21:04.920 --> 1:21:07.160 We didn't beg you to listen to this ship. Uh 1:21:08.040 --> 1:21:18.439 you listen. I'm with you. I get it. 1:21:19.280 --> 1:21:20.960 But I think that he would have had to show 1:21:21.040 --> 1:21:23.960 some level of care and knowledge in order to say 1:21:24.560 --> 1:21:26.960 good luck son. But I think it would be weird 1:21:27.040 --> 1:21:30.080 for them to show that he's showing this level of 1:21:30.200 --> 1:21:32.519 care to say what up son or good luck son? 1:21:33.000 --> 1:21:35.240 And then for him to just not show a single 1:21:35.360 --> 1:21:38.200 drop of emotion later on when he's shot in the head, 1:21:38.240 --> 1:21:40.040 I think it would just be weird writing. 1:21:41.200 --> 1:21:42.840 Now, if you got basket sons out there, you don't 1:21:42.840 --> 1:21:44.640 give a fuck. Think about Game of Thrones, they had 1:21:44.640 --> 1:21:46.519 a lot of basket son. They don't care about. 1:21:47.240 --> 1:21:49.800 Calling them, hey son, come here son, good luck son. 1:21:49.840 --> 1:21:52.479 They weren't saying that, So I think for him to 1:21:52.640 --> 1:21:56.560 actually put in the good luck son would show that 1:21:57.520 --> 1:22:00.400 he had some level of give a fuck of give 1:22:00.439 --> 1:22:02.080 a fuck for this kid. 1:22:02.920 --> 1:22:05.360 But I think that in the term of the story, 1:22:05.960 --> 1:22:06.960 and I could be told wrong. 1:22:07.040 --> 1:22:09.320 Obviously I didn't read the book, but in the in 1:22:09.400 --> 1:22:11.680 the terms of the story, I think that that was 1:22:12.160 --> 1:22:16.720 just to show why Stabbins was here and why he 1:22:16.880 --> 1:22:19.240 gave a fuck so much to finish this race. 1:22:19.560 --> 1:22:20.880 But maybe I'm wrong. 1:22:21.040 --> 1:22:23.800 If anybody that's listening has read the book and they 1:22:23.880 --> 1:22:26.000 delve more into that, please let me know, because I'd 1:22:26.040 --> 1:22:27.520 actually be kind of curious. 1:22:27.439 --> 1:22:30.519 That that good look son sounded soul just like this, 1:22:32.160 --> 1:22:34.640 this is what he says to gas everybody to make 1:22:34.720 --> 1:22:37.040 it seem like that's how I took it. Yeah, that's 1:22:37.080 --> 1:22:39.280 it just seemed like he's gassing niggas motherfuckers up the 1:22:39.320 --> 1:22:39.680 whole time. 1:22:39.760 --> 1:22:40.200 He didn't give it. 1:22:40.400 --> 1:22:41.639 He ain't taking shades off none. 1:22:45.280 --> 1:22:47.080 I don't think he said it in a caring way. 1:22:47.560 --> 1:22:50.680 It's just in a in a way to acknowledge, like 1:22:51.760 --> 1:22:55.839 I know that you're a mind, you know, So I don't. 1:22:55.640 --> 1:22:57.120 Know that's a good call out, though I didn't catch 1:22:57.160 --> 1:22:57.479 it first. 1:22:58.280 --> 1:23:00.280 So Ray tell's Pete that he's used. He used to 1:23:00.280 --> 1:23:05.000 be afraid of death, but he wasn't anymore. Do you 1:23:05.000 --> 1:23:05.679 remember this convo? 1:23:05.800 --> 1:23:05.960 Rod? 1:23:08.360 --> 1:23:10.880 He says he realized that everybody's gonna die, but what 1:23:11.080 --> 1:23:15.000 matters is how you spend those final moments. Okay, well 1:23:15.280 --> 1:23:18.080 this was to me and maybe nobody else gave a fuck, 1:23:18.120 --> 1:23:21.320 But I found this be very, very very important, especially 1:23:21.360 --> 1:23:24.799 for how his character plays out later. He was basically 1:23:24.920 --> 1:23:28.200 saying that, you know, for a lot of us, death 1:23:28.439 --> 1:23:30.880 is the worst thing. You know, we're terrified of death. 1:23:31.280 --> 1:23:34.479 But then as he's been walking, he realizes that, look, 1:23:34.640 --> 1:23:37.120 death isn't really the main thing. The main thing is 1:23:37.400 --> 1:23:39.479 how you're spending these moments, which he got from Pete. 1:23:40.520 --> 1:23:44.280 Put that seed into him. No pause, Spike. So I 1:23:44.400 --> 1:23:47.280 think that this was actually really interesting because that calmed 1:23:47.360 --> 1:23:50.200 him in that moment. So if nobody cared about that, 1:23:50.240 --> 1:23:50.760 we'll move on to. 1:23:50.760 --> 1:23:53.680 The next point. Well, no, I think it was an interesting. 1:23:54.800 --> 1:23:59.440 Kind of turned for him and a sort of acceptance, 1:24:00.400 --> 1:24:05.479 you know, which was interesting in how the movie played 1:24:05.520 --> 1:24:09.479 out later on. For him to say that was an 1:24:09.479 --> 1:24:14.320 admission of like, you know, it's over for me, and 1:24:14.560 --> 1:24:18.599 I'm willing to sacrifice myself for somebody that because remember 1:24:18.600 --> 1:24:20.840 when we was talking to to mccreees earlier, Pete earlier, 1:24:20.920 --> 1:24:22.840 he was like, I can't see the things you see, 1:24:23.160 --> 1:24:25.479 and that all came back later and I think this 1:24:25.640 --> 1:24:27.600 was at the point where he kind of realized that 1:24:28.280 --> 1:24:30.320 he won't ever have those eyes. 1:24:30.439 --> 1:24:33.920 It's about those moments and that's really it. I don't 1:24:34.120 --> 1:24:37.960 have the ability to see life the way you see it, 1:24:38.439 --> 1:24:39.160 which leads. 1:24:39.000 --> 1:24:39.679 Us to the next part. 1:24:40.960 --> 1:24:43.880 Pizza is down, tries to give up, which again kind 1:24:43.880 --> 1:24:45.160 of goes back to what I was saying earlier is 1:24:45.240 --> 1:24:46.840 I don't think he ever really thought he was going 1:24:46.880 --> 1:24:49.800 to finish, but Ray comes back and convinced him to 1:24:49.880 --> 1:24:50.360 keep walking. 1:24:52.439 --> 1:24:54.960 Spike, where did you think when Ray then chose to 1:24:55.040 --> 1:24:58.479 sit down? And what about his reasoning for giving up? 1:24:59.520 --> 1:25:02.040 I was rise. I thought it was really good. 1:25:02.400 --> 1:25:05.479 How he kind of just faded when he when Pete 1:25:05.560 --> 1:25:07.400 first decided to sit down, he kind of just faded 1:25:07.479 --> 1:25:10.080 back and raided and noticed and then he turned around. 1:25:10.160 --> 1:25:12.200 He saved him. You just convinced him to get up. 1:25:12.760 --> 1:25:15.599 And then his reasoning was what again? What did he say? 1:25:15.680 --> 1:25:17.439 His reason was, he doesn't see the light. 1:25:17.640 --> 1:25:20.000 Yeah, and that's what he loves about Pete. 1:25:20.120 --> 1:25:23.599 Yes, Oh my god, stop trying to make a thug cry. 1:25:23.760 --> 1:25:24.280 I couldn't. 1:25:24.400 --> 1:25:26.320 Yeah, because if I win, I'm not gonna do the 1:25:26.400 --> 1:25:28.880 things that you do with this victory. So I'm gonna 1:25:28.920 --> 1:25:30.760 sit down and then sacrifice my dad. 1:25:30.840 --> 1:25:33.080 That was fire. I thought it was a hell of 1:25:33.120 --> 1:25:33.800 a way and ended. 1:25:33.920 --> 1:25:35.680 I suspected that they were just gonna go with the 1:25:35.720 --> 1:25:38.800 easy route and let let him just do it, because that. 1:25:38.840 --> 1:25:40.240 Was the first person we seen on the screen. 1:25:40.800 --> 1:25:42.599 But to switch it up like that and have him 1:25:42.840 --> 1:25:46.479 actually take his thought process and sit down when like 1:25:46.560 --> 1:25:48.080 it's over for me, I thought it was dope. 1:25:48.200 --> 1:25:50.800 And he didn't even notice. That was so good that 1:25:50.880 --> 1:25:53.320 he didn't even notice. Yeah, he thought he was walking 1:25:53.360 --> 1:25:55.120 with him. They were so and go up through the conversation. 1:25:55.680 --> 1:25:58.720 We've been three hundred miles walking you my guy. Now, 1:25:59.040 --> 1:26:01.320 I'm just talking with the depth of this. And then 1:26:01.360 --> 1:26:03.320 you don't even know that he bowed out. 1:26:07.680 --> 1:26:13.439 And he got on warning helping Pete. Yeah, jesus, Yeah 1:26:13.760 --> 1:26:15.720 that was good. What about anybody else? 1:26:17.600 --> 1:26:20.080 That was a powerful scene. I will say that and 1:26:20.360 --> 1:26:23.600 we'll get to just next that what happened at the 1:26:23.800 --> 1:26:28.479 end kind of goes against what he didn't do, what 1:26:28.600 --> 1:26:30.479 he sacrificed himself for. 1:26:30.960 --> 1:26:33.920 Yeah, he changed. Their perspective switched exactly. 1:26:34.120 --> 1:26:36.840 Yeah, their perspected their perspective switched because he ended up 1:26:36.880 --> 1:26:39.840 doing the same thing that he said the other guy 1:26:39.880 --> 1:26:41.560 said he was going to do. But that's not what 1:26:41.680 --> 1:26:43.760 he sit down for. He didn't sit down for you 1:26:43.840 --> 1:26:46.240 to do that, which I thought was great too. But 1:26:46.320 --> 1:26:47.960 I would have liked it the more I would have 1:26:48.040 --> 1:26:49.599 wanted something to happen. I want to see what they 1:26:49.680 --> 1:26:53.559 did about that. I didn't like to fade out. Yeah, 1:26:53.960 --> 1:26:57.560 I get to that, But I did not see this 1:26:57.800 --> 1:26:58.400 coming at all. 1:26:58.680 --> 1:27:00.240 Yeah, it was a good twist, and this is what 1:27:00.360 --> 1:27:04.800 made the movie for me, bro because watching it, I'm like, 1:27:04.920 --> 1:27:07.200 you guys, I'm like, okay, you know, Ray and the 1:27:07.360 --> 1:27:10.519 mom we saw the moment they had together, which was great. 1:27:11.000 --> 1:27:12.720 Like this is leading to that, ye. 1:27:13.640 --> 1:27:18.759 And you can see Pete throughout, especially in the last 1:27:19.160 --> 1:27:23.400 like part of the movie, just looking at him, and 1:27:23.640 --> 1:27:26.559 especially after he told him that story and he heard 1:27:26.640 --> 1:27:29.240 another story. He just sitting there and they walked there walking, 1:27:29.360 --> 1:27:31.479 Ray just looking ahead and Pete just looking at him, 1:27:31.840 --> 1:27:33.560 and it's like that's when he made the decision. He 1:27:33.680 --> 1:27:35.800 was like, you need to be with your mom, and 1:27:35.800 --> 1:27:37.800 I'm gonna let you have that moment. That was his 1:27:37.960 --> 1:27:42.200 good his contribution to the world. And when he just 1:27:42.520 --> 1:27:45.760 stopped and sat down. And now that we've been talking 1:27:45.760 --> 1:27:49.040 about him, Mike, I think you might be right because 1:27:49.080 --> 1:27:50.600 that is that's what he said he was gonna do, 1:27:50.640 --> 1:27:53.000 and that's exactly what he did. So I think you 1:27:53.080 --> 1:27:54.320 might probably write about with that. 1:27:54.720 --> 1:27:57.120 He wanted to die saving people and he's saved. 1:27:57.240 --> 1:27:58.880 In his mind, he was gonna say he was gonna 1:27:58.920 --> 1:28:01.840 save Ray so they can be with his mom, so 1:28:02.800 --> 1:28:03.599 she man. 1:28:05.520 --> 1:28:08.679 Where somebody won the race. 1:28:08.880 --> 1:28:11.000 Yeah, and if it wasn't him, he wanted someone. 1:28:11.120 --> 1:28:13.080 But when he picked when he picked him up and 1:28:13.160 --> 1:28:16.880 they were walking and and Ray was like, just walk 1:28:16.960 --> 1:28:18.000 with me in a little bit more. 1:28:18.680 --> 1:28:21.599 And that motherfucker dropped back. Yeah, that was and then 1:28:21.600 --> 1:28:22.880 all you heard was boom boom. 1:28:24.240 --> 1:28:28.400 Bro. I was like yo, and then man shot him. 1:28:28.400 --> 1:28:30.080 He was like what did you do? What did you do? 1:28:30.840 --> 1:28:36.280 And you just saw the man rod crazy. Hey, Bro. 1:28:36.960 --> 1:28:39.200 It was it was powerful because it's it's it's like 1:28:39.320 --> 1:28:41.479 you think movies would like Spice that take the easy 1:28:41.520 --> 1:28:42.320 way out, and they did not. 1:28:43.000 --> 1:28:46.599 I think it man, it was. It was. It got 1:28:46.680 --> 1:28:48.320 me bro, like the. 1:28:48.400 --> 1:28:50.840 Predictable way would have been because I'm sitting there thinking, okay, 1:28:50.840 --> 1:28:52.400 it was about to happen. I'm thinking, I'm thinking that 1:28:52.479 --> 1:28:55.080 Pete was about to sacrifice himself for Ray. 1:28:55.200 --> 1:28:56.479 That that felt. 1:28:56.560 --> 1:28:58.840 That's where it was leading to the very first person 1:28:58.920 --> 1:28:59.519 we meet, his Ray. 1:28:59.600 --> 1:29:00.360 He was the name. 1:29:02.040 --> 1:29:04.240 So I'm thinking, Okay, that's kind of predictable, but I'll 1:29:04.280 --> 1:29:04.920 take it it. 1:29:05.640 --> 1:29:10.960 Yeah. Yeah, but think about this also, ride because. 1:29:12.200 --> 1:29:15.080 It's almost like because we were having a conversation earlier 1:29:15.120 --> 1:29:18.519 about him basically doing the same thing that he that 1:29:18.680 --> 1:29:22.200 his dad did, and even in this moment he did 1:29:22.280 --> 1:29:24.720 it again. He said what he said, tell my mom, 1:29:24.760 --> 1:29:29.200 I'm sorry, I'm sorry, bruh. And and so I'm like, Bro, 1:29:29.320 --> 1:29:33.519 you just lovet your mom by herself, like. 1:29:34.120 --> 1:29:36.519 He said, and even even said he said, I'm just 1:29:36.680 --> 1:29:37.240 like my dad. 1:29:40.640 --> 1:29:43.080 I think he knew even if he won the race, 1:29:43.439 --> 1:29:45.280 he was still not going to be there for his 1:29:45.400 --> 1:29:47.080 mom because all he could. 1:29:47.000 --> 1:29:51.040 See is anger, revenge and chain and revenge. 1:29:51.160 --> 1:29:54.000 Even once he killed the major, I don't think that 1:29:54.120 --> 1:29:56.200 was gonna be enough for him. He was never going 1:29:56.280 --> 1:29:57.720 to be a loving person. 1:29:57.720 --> 1:29:58.840 And maybe PTSD. 1:30:00.040 --> 1:30:03.040 Yeah, and I was about to say, there's really no winner. 1:30:03.840 --> 1:30:06.559 After going through all of this, you've seen the last 1:30:06.600 --> 1:30:09.960 person standing. They're not gonna be happy or excited or 1:30:10.040 --> 1:30:12.320 you're going to be fucked up from here on out. 1:30:12.600 --> 1:30:14.080 So there's really no quote. 1:30:13.920 --> 1:30:16.120 Unquote winter in the worst like we're turning back for 1:30:16.200 --> 1:30:20.759 more like you said exactly. So yeah, so that makes 1:30:21.040 --> 1:30:25.080 Pete the winner. Rod, What did you think of what 1:30:25.280 --> 1:30:31.040 went down after they shoot Ray because Pete then shoots 1:30:31.600 --> 1:30:34.439 Luke Skywalker and then the movie kind of ends with 1:30:34.560 --> 1:30:38.519 him walking off. So how did you think the movie ended? 1:30:40.160 --> 1:30:43.400 Well, first thing I thought was like, they can't kill 1:30:43.439 --> 1:30:43.920 the black guy. 1:30:44.200 --> 1:30:45.720 I was just like, they've been not they've been I 1:30:45.840 --> 1:30:47.760 was just telling they've been not leading away for us 1:30:47.840 --> 1:30:51.559 or whatever with the ending or whatever. So so yeah, 1:30:51.560 --> 1:30:53.320 I was thinking, like, no, they're not gonna kill the 1:30:53.360 --> 1:30:55.360 black guy. So I was really curious to see how 1:30:55.400 --> 1:30:57.120 they were going to handle that. And I still felt 1:30:57.160 --> 1:31:00.280 the intensity of it, not knowing if they were gonna 1:31:00.280 --> 1:31:01.640 shoot him right afterwards. 1:31:02.320 --> 1:31:05.600 So I was happy that they didn't shoot him. I 1:31:05.880 --> 1:31:07.240 was left a little. 1:31:08.960 --> 1:31:12.160 Slightly confused as to what actually happened, Like what did 1:31:12.240 --> 1:31:15.960 that symbolized towards the end of him just walking off 1:31:17.000 --> 1:31:18.960 without when because we didn't even hear or see the 1:31:19.040 --> 1:31:23.200 crowd anymore, right, so like his spirit walking off, like 1:31:23.280 --> 1:31:26.120 I don't know what was going on. But so yeah, 1:31:26.160 --> 1:31:28.559 I was left a little confused. So I was hoping 1:31:28.640 --> 1:31:31.519 that you know, you guys had an idea. Anybody want 1:31:31.520 --> 1:31:32.080 to feel that out? 1:31:32.880 --> 1:31:38.360 Pause solid. 1:31:39.560 --> 1:31:42.400 Thought he died, I ain't gonna lie. I took it 1:31:42.520 --> 1:31:46.000 as could because I just don't see realistically you being 1:31:46.040 --> 1:31:48.120 able to get that off and shoot the major and 1:31:48.320 --> 1:31:50.639 just and be smooth you would have been I feel 1:31:50.720 --> 1:31:52.520 I'm figuring you'd have been killed immediately. 1:31:52.720 --> 1:31:53.040 I don't know. 1:31:53.080 --> 1:31:54.680 I think so I think he could get away with 1:31:54.720 --> 1:31:57.880 it because remember they were having a conversation, conversation, but 1:31:58.040 --> 1:32:01.240 it was an untested theory right, and now I think 1:32:01.360 --> 1:32:02.920 we what conversations would have. 1:32:03.520 --> 1:32:05.280 I know he thought about doing it, that he could 1:32:05.320 --> 1:32:08.519 do it because he's the winner. He holds this level 1:32:08.600 --> 1:32:10.000 of power, so they're not going to kill him. 1:32:10.800 --> 1:32:11.280 I missed it. 1:32:11.400 --> 1:32:15.360 I missed that too, But it just seemed the way 1:32:15.439 --> 1:32:18.400 that the camera faded everything else out and that there 1:32:18.439 --> 1:32:20.240 was more fireworks, there was no more people. 1:32:20.680 --> 1:32:23.519 It made it seem like that wasn't reality. You know 1:32:23.560 --> 1:32:29.160 what I'm saying. Dead? Yeah, he was supers Yes, he 1:32:31.080 --> 1:32:31.479 is dead. 1:32:31.560 --> 1:32:39.519 Bro shocked that y'all didn't take it that way, said, yeah, 1:32:39.960 --> 1:32:42.839 you didn't know that, you said, Man, I was confused. 1:32:42.880 --> 1:32:45.000 I hope when y'all can explain that you did say 1:32:45.080 --> 1:32:53.439 that definitively dead? Broad? He is dead? Where where right 1:32:54.080 --> 1:32:56.000 in heaven? Brow light? 1:32:56.280 --> 1:32:56.479 Yes? 1:32:57.360 --> 1:33:02.559 Yes it was. There was no there was no people. 1:33:03.080 --> 1:33:05.439 The fireworks were gone. Sound he's dead. 1:33:05.560 --> 1:33:08.599 Were there people behind him when he the whole crowd? 1:33:08.680 --> 1:33:11.760 Remember I thought the crowd was behind the crowd wasn't 1:33:11.800 --> 1:33:14.520 that far back? It was why he was he was surrounded. 1:33:14.720 --> 1:33:14.760 No. 1:33:14.920 --> 1:33:17.559 But but I'm saying if you go, if you kept going, 1:33:17.600 --> 1:33:19.439 the crowd was right there, and if you turn around 1:33:19.479 --> 1:33:20.920 and go the other way then that's where the soldiers 1:33:21.000 --> 1:33:23.000 in there, and there was there was they wouldn't just 1:33:23.080 --> 1:33:27.080 empty space and no buildings and all kinds of none 1:33:27.120 --> 1:33:27.280 of that. 1:33:28.280 --> 1:33:29.040 It was nothing. 1:33:29.760 --> 1:33:33.599 Yes, yes, he is dead, Rochester stuff with his initial 1:33:33.720 --> 1:33:38.439 thought that dead. They shot him that and that's why 1:33:38.600 --> 1:33:42.000 he shot him. You heard nothing from the soldiers. You 1:33:42.080 --> 1:33:45.200 didn't hear You heard nothing. You see him turn around 1:33:45.680 --> 1:33:46.280 and walk off. 1:33:47.640 --> 1:33:49.960 They didn't like the major either, so they were glad 1:33:50.320 --> 1:33:51.800 the soldier was the major was dead. 1:33:51.800 --> 1:33:54.320 That's not true. Why would the soldiers be upset about that? 1:33:54.560 --> 1:33:56.360 I think that they were making the whole point of 1:33:57.240 --> 1:34:00.320 this system, because when y'all said earlier, that long long 1:34:00.400 --> 1:34:01.599 walk is absolutely life. 1:34:01.600 --> 1:34:02.599 It's representing life. 1:34:02.640 --> 1:34:05.040 And you meet all these people throughout your life, you 1:34:05.120 --> 1:34:07.320 have these experiences, pain, all this stuff. 1:34:08.560 --> 1:34:09.679 For Rod, you get the ships. 1:34:09.800 --> 1:34:11.599 He's so concerned with people talking about the shit. 1:34:11.920 --> 1:34:13.000 You get the ships in life. 1:34:13.640 --> 1:34:16.679 And at the end of the life, you you either 1:34:16.840 --> 1:34:18.599 make it or you break. 1:34:19.240 --> 1:34:22.040 And Pete broke. The system broke him. 1:34:22.160 --> 1:34:26.680 Even the most positive of people, the system broke him. 1:34:26.720 --> 1:34:27.120 He couldn't. 1:34:27.479 --> 1:34:30.080 He couldn't see the light in the anymore. Even even 1:34:30.240 --> 1:34:34.200 in you could be the most nicest positive person. But 1:34:34.360 --> 1:34:36.840 if the way things are around you are built to 1:34:36.880 --> 1:34:39.960 where there is no light, you can keep it so 1:34:40.080 --> 1:34:41.840 you can have a false sense of it all you want. 1:34:42.160 --> 1:34:44.320 But and that's what I that's why all this slide 1:34:44.360 --> 1:34:47.200 that he ended up doing what he did versus what 1:34:47.360 --> 1:34:48.280 his initial thing was. 1:34:48.360 --> 1:34:49.920 Like, I just asked for two people, you know, the. 1:34:49.920 --> 1:34:53.360 Whole positivity kick after three hundred miles, bro, you not 1:34:53.520 --> 1:34:54.240 positive no more? 1:34:54.280 --> 1:34:56.160 Like I refuse to believe or remember. 1:34:56.240 --> 1:34:59.080 They also told him that you that there was other 1:34:59.160 --> 1:35:00.760 conversations that you can ask for two people. 1:35:00.800 --> 1:35:01.960 They're not going to break the system. 1:35:02.120 --> 1:35:04.160 They said, oh yeah, you can't ask for policy and 1:35:04.200 --> 1:35:06.280 procedure changes exactly. 1:35:06.439 --> 1:35:12.760 To help who already Spanish let me be Pete. I 1:35:12.800 --> 1:35:18.519 don't would. They focused on Pete seeing the light. This 1:35:18.640 --> 1:35:21.000 is why I just googled it's he been split on line. 1:35:25.800 --> 1:35:27.559 He's dead. It would have been to if. 1:35:28.520 --> 1:35:30.600 If you're talking about him seeing the light when he 1:35:30.720 --> 1:35:34.000 turns around, one of y'all just said there was no light. Yes, 1:35:34.400 --> 1:35:37.479 at that moment, Pete stopped seeing the light. He gave 1:35:37.680 --> 1:35:42.440 in to anger revenge and he killed him. There's no fireworks, 1:35:42.439 --> 1:35:44.439 which would have been the light there was not even 1:35:44.520 --> 1:35:47.479 light from the trucks anymore. He didn't see the light anymore. 1:35:47.720 --> 1:35:50.920 He died. I got it. 1:35:53.040 --> 1:35:56.920 But let's okay. So Spike be with me, all right. 1:35:57.000 --> 1:36:01.880 So he's still alive, but he doesn't see the light. 1:36:02.000 --> 1:36:06.320 He's he's cool to the system. But he's still alive. 1:36:06.400 --> 1:36:09.519 It's just his vision is is his light is gone. 1:36:10.240 --> 1:36:13.200 So he turned around exactly, so he saw the darkness. 1:36:13.479 --> 1:36:13.800 So the. 1:36:15.400 --> 1:36:18.799 Hope and positivity that he once had is no longer present. 1:36:19.120 --> 1:36:21.479 He's just still alive to live in that. 1:36:22.040 --> 1:36:28.320 From the gunshot and work. But that's a possibility to write. Yo. Yeah, 1:36:30.920 --> 1:36:31.519 that's all right, But. 1:36:33.760 --> 1:36:34.519 I'm not mad at it. 1:36:36.120 --> 1:36:39.040 It's definitely left up for interpretation, which I did. I 1:36:39.080 --> 1:36:41.840 appreciate it. And it's a different ending from the book. Yeah, 1:36:42.920 --> 1:36:44.519 there were very few things. I know. 1:36:44.720 --> 1:36:48.800 I wasn't gonna say that, but that was definitely something 1:36:48.840 --> 1:36:50.680 that I saw that was. Yeah, it was different from 1:36:50.680 --> 1:36:52.599 the book. I think this ending actually is a lot 1:36:52.680 --> 1:36:56.800 better than what the book. But all right, man, I 1:36:56.920 --> 1:36:59.120 think that this was a perfect ending. 1:36:59.560 --> 1:37:00.599 And I was with Rod. 1:37:00.680 --> 1:37:03.720 I'm like, don't, don't, don't, don't don't kill this black man, right, 1:37:03.960 --> 1:37:05.600 don't kill this black man. So I think it was 1:37:05.840 --> 1:37:10.080 very smart for them to imply that he's dead without 1:37:10.160 --> 1:37:12.920 us having to see you. The last question I'm gonna 1:37:12.960 --> 1:37:15.840 ask you, Ken Sinid you think this man is live realistically? 1:37:16.920 --> 1:37:21.680 No matter how rich this man is, when is the 1:37:21.880 --> 1:37:24.720 last time you've heard of a white government letting a 1:37:24.880 --> 1:37:28.799 black man live after shooting the leader of the white government. 1:37:29.360 --> 1:37:33.000 Would that be a realistic ass movie? Well, it is fantasy. 1:37:33.920 --> 1:37:38.080 Fantasy might to the point where there was a white 1:37:38.160 --> 1:37:40.560 guy that got up in the theater and left. 1:37:43.240 --> 1:37:43.880 At the end. 1:37:45.760 --> 1:37:49.160 Before like when when Ray got shot and the black 1:37:49.240 --> 1:37:50.960 guy won. This motherfucker got. 1:37:50.880 --> 1:37:54.400 Up left a long walk. 1:37:54.800 --> 1:37:57.960 Now, to be fair, I don't know if he was 1:37:58.040 --> 1:37:59.800 annoyed with the girls that were talking, but by then 1:37:59.840 --> 1:38:01.519 they quiet, so I don't know if he was just 1:38:01.600 --> 1:38:04.040 fan up or he was just like, hell, no, you're 1:38:04.080 --> 1:38:08.240 not letting the black person when someone walked down down man. 1:38:08.280 --> 1:38:09.000 But he got up and. 1:38:09.040 --> 1:38:10.680 Left, so I was like, oh, he liked this. He 1:38:10.680 --> 1:38:12.920 ain't like the fact that this black guys I'm winning 1:38:12.960 --> 1:38:16.880 all his bundy. So to your question, Mike, no, that's 1:38:16.880 --> 1:38:22.120 ship will not happen. But but yeah, but he's also 1:38:22.360 --> 1:38:22.960 very realistic. 1:38:23.000 --> 1:38:23.400 If you want. 1:38:23.439 --> 1:38:26.320 If you follow him on Twitter, he he knows what's up. 1:38:26.560 --> 1:38:31.439 He got us. He got the trouble last week for 1:38:31.600 --> 1:38:32.280 Charlie Kirk. 1:38:32.800 --> 1:38:40.880 Stephen Stephen, he definitely knows. This system is not gonna 1:38:40.960 --> 1:38:45.080 let no black man win all that money and kill 1:38:45.120 --> 1:38:47.519 a major and just walk away Scott Free. 1:38:47.640 --> 1:38:48.760 Ain't no fucking way. 1:38:48.800 --> 1:38:50.479 Did they ever specify the amount of money? 1:38:51.080 --> 1:38:54.280 Okay, life changing? I don't think said life changing. 1:38:55.560 --> 1:38:57.760 Okay, yeah, I gotta be specific, right. 1:38:57.760 --> 1:38:58.840 I need to know what that means. 1:39:00.240 --> 1:39:04.599 Figures, anybody else got any any last lost thoughts? 1:39:05.040 --> 1:39:07.200 I mean, I was surprised that they showed a black 1:39:07.280 --> 1:39:09.800 man killing a white major. I was surprised that they 1:39:09.920 --> 1:39:11.679 actually did that in the movie. 1:39:11.800 --> 1:39:15.920 Yeah, because he wasn't black in the book. Apparently interesting. Yeah, 1:39:17.200 --> 1:39:19.920 I liked it this movie that even we talked about 1:39:19.960 --> 1:39:21.639 it like even more so. Yeah. 1:39:22.160 --> 1:39:23.880 I think that I think the parallels to the life 1:39:23.960 --> 1:39:25.439 are there. But I also think the parallels to the 1:39:25.520 --> 1:39:27.519 rat race are there too, in terms of darking. And 1:39:27.960 --> 1:39:30.200 even my man got sick but still had to wall 1:39:30.280 --> 1:39:32.960 you know what I mean, pt O ship or whatever 1:39:34.000 --> 1:39:36.280 it was, It was a lot of rat race in 1:39:36.360 --> 1:39:38.880 the pursuit of money. Like I look at it from 1:39:38.960 --> 1:39:41.960 like anybody that's made a certain amount of money, like 1:39:42.120 --> 1:39:44.200 life changing money. Like if if you look at people 1:39:44.200 --> 1:39:46.760 who are billionaires, there's people that see that and think 1:39:47.200 --> 1:39:49.680 you had to step on hell of motherfuckers to get 1:39:49.720 --> 1:39:52.000 to that point. And so this is kind of like 1:39:52.720 --> 1:39:54.280 a little there's a little bit of that in there too, 1:39:54.479 --> 1:39:56.960 like to get the life changing money, which we would 1:39:56.960 --> 1:39:59.800 probably all considered like on some Bill Gates ship or whatever. 1:40:00.479 --> 1:40:02.400 He probably knows where the bodies is buried. He probably 1:40:02.439 --> 1:40:04.960 has seen some ship that we ain't seen, and so 1:40:05.120 --> 1:40:09.240 this kind of I looked at that. It's like they say, 1:40:09.280 --> 1:40:11.799 it ain't no good billions exactly. 1:40:11.960 --> 1:40:14.320 Yeah, that's good. 1:40:14.400 --> 1:40:19.519 That's all a reference to capitalism and life, because you 1:40:19.640 --> 1:40:23.559 can't win capitalism. You just can't, especially if you think 1:40:23.560 --> 1:40:25.840 you're gonna win without a whole bunch of dead people behind. 1:40:26.920 --> 1:40:28.840 Definitely not almost like a zero some game. 1:40:29.680 --> 1:40:31.680 Yeah, so I took that it was a fire move. 1:40:32.640 --> 1:40:38.720 Cool. All right, Finally I want to know your top three, but. 1:40:42.479 --> 1:40:45.760 That might be another conversation, might have to okay, but yeah, 1:40:46.520 --> 1:40:48.880 we're gonna end it here. Thank y'all for sticking with us. 1:40:49.680 --> 1:40:52.439 Blame these Negroes for making the sea so long and 1:40:52.920 --> 1:40:55.320 no pause, and uh yeah, we will see. 1:40:55.200 --> 1:40:57.040 Y'all next time. Pro homo. 1:40:57.800 --> 1:40:59.960 Uh we'll see y'all next time. Y'all have a good 1:41:00.040 --> 1:41:01.280 one piece pasy