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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of the Fair Second Podcast.

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Speaker 2: My name is Mike. I'm your host for.

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Speaker 3: The evening, and today we are going to be reviewing

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Speaker 3: the movie The Long Walk. Uh to my left eye

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Speaker 3: of Ken, to Ken's left eye of Rod, to Rod's left,

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Speaker 3: we have a special guest, a b. Thank you for

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Speaker 3: coming through technically kind of in front of me. See

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Speaker 3: see what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 4: He's already and awesome, Dick.

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Speaker 3: I didn't say where he was from. I thought he

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Speaker 3: was going to do that, see how they do every time.

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Speaker 3: All I said was special guest Ab. It's AB's job

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Speaker 3: to say.

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Speaker 2: Where he's from. It sound like you're about to jump

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Speaker 2: the spipe. I wasn't.

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Speaker 3: I didn't even get to say nothing because Rod jumped in,

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Speaker 3: as always.

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Speaker 2: From the to be so glad to be here.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you for being here, man, God damn.

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Speaker 3: And AB's left, I have Spike, Jesus Spike's left, I

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Speaker 3: have myself and uh, yeah, we're gonna talk about the

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Speaker 3: Long Walk.

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Speaker 2: Let's do a quick, quick, quick round the table.

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Speaker 3: I'm not starting with you, Spike, with you, Uh, give

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Speaker 3: me a high level what did you think about this movie?

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Speaker 2: Ken? I enjoyed the movie you know. Yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: enjoyed the movie. Rod, what'd you think of this movie? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I thought it was good. I thought it was good.

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Speaker 2: Ab what'd you think of this movie?

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Speaker 5: I liked to man one of those ones I thought

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Speaker 5: about since I watched it.

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Speaker 6: I say, contrary to probably belief, I text him as

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Speaker 6: soon as I got I was like, did you see

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Speaker 6: this ship? Because I gonna at first, I.

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Speaker 2: Was like that I like that because I was entertained

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Speaker 2: the whole time. It was good. But I did like it.

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Speaker 2: I liked it though good. I'm glad everybody liked it.

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Speaker 2: I loved it. I loved it.

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Speaker 3: It's definitely one of one of the best thing I've

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Speaker 3: seen this year. I have a great time with this movie.

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Speaker 3: I had no idea what was gonna be about. They

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Speaker 3: did the trailers perfectly, except they did show some people

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Speaker 3: dying what they shouldn't have done. But yeah, I thought

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Speaker 3: it was really, really, really fucking good. Probably one of

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Speaker 3: my It's easily top three Stephen King adaptations, easily.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, so it starts off, what.

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Speaker 5: Is it?

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Speaker 2: If it's moving? Can you tighten it?

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I saw you adjusted it. I was

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Speaker 2: gonna tell you to adjust.

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Speaker 3: It telepit moved or if I just didn't closer to

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Speaker 3: your mouth.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, that's that should be good enough. And it's

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Speaker 4: going on an individual channel, so he'll be able.

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Speaker 2: To okay, crazy, all right.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, So the movie starts off with telling us

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Speaker 3: that Raymond Garrity has won the lottery, which gets some

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Speaker 3: to the Long Walk, which is scene as this kind

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Speaker 3: of a way of breaking out of poverty. As the

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Speaker 3: winner of the Long Walk gets hell of money and

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Speaker 3: a wish. So driving in the car, we hear the

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Speaker 3: radio saying that the war tore the nation apart. The

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Speaker 3: first question I had Spike, are you kind of sick

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Speaker 3: of these type of movies? Or was this automatically intriguing?

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Speaker 2: It was automatically intriguing.

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Speaker 6: I actually wish I had gotten more, which this actually

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Speaker 6: made me want to read a book to understand more

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Speaker 6: about the world. I love world building, it's one of

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Speaker 6: my favorite things. I wish I had known the context

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Speaker 5: Same with you, ab Yeah, for sure. It reminded me

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Speaker 5: a little bit of Civil War came out like a

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Speaker 5: of current so ironically, I know, it's super old the

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Speaker 5: book is, and it worked then. The fact that it still.

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Speaker 2: Works now it is kind of crazy. Fact there what

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Speaker 2: time period? It was hard. That was one thing I

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Speaker 5: You couldn't tell the car, you couldn't, but they had

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Speaker 2: It was. Yeah, it was weird.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I didn't say damn yeh yeh I do.

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Speaker 6: I'm like, think back on I'm like them on the

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Speaker 6: Long Walk with my rations, get my rations.

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Speaker 3: We're y'all kind of sick of these post apocalyptic movies

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Speaker 2: No, I'm good. I like them. They don't bother me. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was a different spin on it, you know what

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Speaker 7: I thought it was very created, especially as like someone

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Speaker 5: Like right here in this role? So yeah, I thought

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Speaker 3: So yeah, all right, So we kind of meet our

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Speaker 3: group of characters. We meet Ray Garretty obviously, meet Pete mcgreeese, Stebbins,

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Speaker 3: played by my motherfucking man Luke motherfucker Scot Walker, and

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Speaker 3: this bitch Mark Hamill. It's handing out tags. What'd you

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Speaker 3: think of the he's an rod that he gave for

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Speaker 2: What did he say? Hey, b what did you.

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Speaker 1: Think of the reasoning he gave for the Long Walk?

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Speaker 5: I thought it was reach, but I'm also trying to

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Speaker 5: put myself in this world, but without the details of

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Speaker 5: what all has happened. It was a little bit of

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Speaker 5: a reach trying to tell us that this will motivate

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Speaker 5: other people, and I'm kind of like, yeah, will it?

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Speaker 5: Like I'm not really seeing exactly how that works and

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Speaker 5: not having all the the details, you know, that that

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Speaker 2: But I let it. I let it live. But it

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Speaker 2: was a little bit of a reach though. Interesting Do

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Speaker 2: you remember this now? Rock? Yeah? So I don't, Yeah,

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Speaker 7: I did wonder, Okay, like, yeah, how does this motive

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Speaker 7: like Motherfucker's dying?

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Speaker 5: Because in my mind, I'm like I saw a part

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Speaker 5: of the trailer. I'm like, don't Motherfucker's dying? And this

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Speaker 5: shit like that would have been another thing to inspire

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Speaker 5: if you just like, you know, oh oh I thought

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it would be one thing to inspire if you

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Speaker 7: you know, it's just like, oh, yeah, I'm tired.

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Speaker 2: Whatever I wanted I did, I did it good. I

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Speaker 7: But nah, nigga niggas died like so, I don't know

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Speaker 7: if they was televising that or not, but it were Yeah,

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Speaker 7: so how does that inspire?

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Speaker 6: Like I don't understand, Like I don't want to do that,

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Speaker 6: but he said it was to keep going though, like

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Speaker 6: hard times. I thought it made sense in the sense

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Speaker 6: of everybody was so broke and down tried and that

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Speaker 6: which we found out later when he was like, it

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Speaker 2: The only thing I'll give it is is it reminded

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Speaker 2: me of like Hunger Games. That's exactly what I thought.

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Speaker 7: It's the same guy perfect, So yeah, look, it felt

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Speaker 7: like Hunger Games and people were dying fat they knew

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Speaker 7: was possible they were going to die or whatever, they

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Speaker 7: were doing it for the greater goods, So I guess

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Speaker 7: that's I guess.

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Speaker 3: That's talking about their motivation. But I'm talking about the

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Speaker 3: explanation of why the major thinks the hunger that games,

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Speaker 3: why he thinks the long walk is beneficial for America.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, he's saying that the country is in a

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Speaker 3: people to value work ethic. Yeah, that makes sense to

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Speaker 3: me one hundred percent when you look at how Americans

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Speaker 3: are now or even back when we were younger them

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Speaker 3: fucking was it Sally Strugglers with the little African kids

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Speaker 3: that she'd be posting like Americans automatically go to, oh man,

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Speaker 3: my life is pretty good, because it's not.

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Speaker 2: That, you know what I mean? And that's what he

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Speaker 2: was saying Propagand yes, he says it's value.

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Speaker 3: It makes you value work ethic and it's basically pushing

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Speaker 3: me to stop being lazy. If these guys can march

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Speaker 3: to work for fucking sixty hours.

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Speaker 2: I get that point, But what about the killing part.

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Speaker 2: That's the part. I don't even think that that's all

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Speaker 3: I really don't, especially if we're looking at a post

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Speaker 3: death now, as we just discussed, I definitely don't think

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Speaker 3: that that's too far fetched that Americans would see, especially

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Speaker 2: It's downtrodden people dying. Well, shit, at least that's not me.

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Speaker 3: So I can go to work and go to this

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Speaker 5: People seem desensitized to it too. They had kids watching it. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: so it seemed that makes when you put it like that,

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Speaker 4: Man form of entertainment. It's eventually what you know. So, yeah,

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Speaker 4: all that makes sense what he was saying. You know too, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So we then hear the rules of the game.

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Speaker 3: You walk to there's one person left. You can't walk

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Speaker 3: under three miles an hour. If you step off the pavement,

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Speaker 3: you get a ticket. Obviously the ticket means death. You

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Speaker 3: get a warning if you drop below three miles an hour,

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Speaker 3: three warnings means you die. So once they start walking,

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Speaker 3: did you think that that it was it for Barkovich

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Speaker 2: Ken, Nah, not him, Not him.

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Speaker 4: He seemed like he was gonna be a key figure

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Speaker 4: for the movie. But I think they did Ariller really

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Speaker 4: gonna get got you know. But but nah, I had

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Speaker 4: a feeling because he was actually part of that group

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Speaker 2: So, but it would have been good to take him

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Speaker 6: Shit, yeah, you agree that she would have been good

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Speaker 6: to take him out early, But he did. He was

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Speaker 6: a heavy contributor throughout the movie. I did enjoy his character.

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Speaker 6: I find it interesting how they were rooting for like

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Speaker 6: come on, come on, like get up. I found that

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Speaker 6: interesting because, like ros said, everybody gonna die, y'all. Ain't

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Speaker 6: like I'm not rooting for you to get up and

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Speaker 6: start beg walking, like this is one last person I

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Speaker 1: So that was one rule that didn't click until.

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Speaker 3: After the movie was over, because I thought, and I'm

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Speaker 3: still not all the way sure. I thought it was

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Speaker 3: just a matter of if there's two of us and

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Speaker 5: It's the only option that And I thought that was

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Speaker 2: But I thought that was great.

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Speaker 2: Like, oh, capitalism sucks, but we're still a part of it.

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Speaker 2: So, man, just in this part alone, I was like,

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Speaker 4: Capitalism was definitely a lens that I looked at it through,

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Speaker 4: The American Dream, you know, and all the other stuff.

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Speaker 2: It it really made the language in here different without

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Speaker 4: They told you, like pretty much laid out what is

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Speaker 1: So what do you think about Curly getting God? Curly

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Speaker 2: That hilarious because Curly was trying his damness? Did you

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Speaker 4: But it was smart to start with the youngest one,

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Speaker 5: The war and he's he don't want to go to war.

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Speaker 4: He goes maybe after bravery, maybe for his family, maybe

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Speaker 2: Up for and he gets God, but man he.

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Speaker 3: Had he's trying to call the c y'all didn't get

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Speaker 1: And then he died from what gun violence?

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Speaker 2: Stay woke. That's the hell of a turning point.

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Speaker 5: That's take a shot.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what you're talking about. Damn red fish

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Speaker 6: Like what you're gonna do that?

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Speaker 3: And that made it that much better. As the movie went,

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Speaker 2: That was real good. He was.

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Speaker 3: He was bugging y'all laughing at that ship. I was like, yo,

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Speaker 2: They should have been looked at you like you were crazy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, don't hurt as much as a bullet Jesus and

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Speaker 2: They made sure have showed the cry. I was like, oh, wow,

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Speaker 4: Three miles per hour, isn't like that's a pretty pretty.

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Speaker 2: I might try to.

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Speaker 3: That's good marketing, is really marketing you're gonna kick me

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Speaker 1: No, it's not watch them walking, but you're doing it.

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Speaker 2: The same and now movie and now you're thinking like.

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Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, no it was. It was. It was an hour.

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Speaker 5: The Coca Cola commercial and popcorn unless I go the movie.

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Speaker 5: But I like how they're getting created with the promos though,

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Speaker 2: Everybody walking like that.

444
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 3: So Pete has this idea of not thinking about making

445
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,199
Speaker 3: it to the end, just making it to the next moment.

446
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 3: But shortly after that, one of the other kids, Ewing,

447
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 3: has a seizure and dies. But then shortly after that,

448
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,640
Speaker 3: Ray asked Pete about the scar on his face.

449
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 2: Rod, were you.

450
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 3: Intrigued by the fact that Pete, who seems so happy

451
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 3: and open and honest about everything immediately doesn't want to

452
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:50,120
Speaker 3: talk about the scar.

453
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 7: No, yeah, I knew that probably was a soft spot

454
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 7: for him. Whatever the scar was, it made it. It

455
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 7: was too prominent, right, I mean, like, I knew they

456
00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 7: were going to bring it up at some point, you

457
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,959
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying. And so yeah, I wasn't. I

458
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 7: wasn't surprised that he wasn't ready to talk about that. So, yeah,

459
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 7: what about you again? Oh I wanted to know what

460
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 7: it was. I would have asked met man, what happened?

461
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,919
Speaker 2: That's what you would do that.

462
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 4: You don't know me like that? But uh, but no,

463
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 4: I think they did it well. I think they did

464
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 4: it well to set it up for what was to

465
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 4: come later because yea, his monologue was great. I want

466
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 4: to speak to his performance too.

467
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 6: He did a fantastic so I think he stole the show,

468
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 6: to be honest with you. But yeah, I thought he

469
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,719
Speaker 6: would respond like that. That monologue was called I've been

470
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,439
Speaker 6: I've been walking my whole life. But even before that,

471
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 6: when he talked about the moments, I looked at you.

472
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 5: Like allegorithm like life like people are so focused on

473
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,199
Speaker 5: the end when really it's about the things that happened

474
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 5: in between. And they even said that toward the end,

475
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 5: about the you can know somebody for three hours, three years,

476
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,159
Speaker 5: or three decades. You can if you connect, then you

477
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 5: connected all the connection all that was hard.

478
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 4: That's actually a really good point about the long walk,

479
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 4: which is life, and you're just trying to get to

480
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 4: the next moment in life and enjoyed the join these

481
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 4: moments to get to the next moment.

482
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, you looked at as adults you ever see kids

483
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 5: are fascinated by like the Yeah, well we have kind

484
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 5: of took it from granted, it's always that. I thought,

485
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 5: that's what he kind of made.

486
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 3: How the birds fly right, gotta be working ten minutes

487
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 3: just asked me that, like why can't we fly?

488
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 2: Like look, God and niggas that way to be quiet?

489
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 5: So I like you like how he's been on the

490
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 5: come up though, that guy he's I don't know if you.

491
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 2: Remember, but rolaying. Yep, he's on roylaye. And then that's

492
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 2: the movie I have brought to. Yeah, that's what I

493
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 2: watched it. You did? You did? You did? I don't

494
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 2: know if you like it. I don't think you and I.

495
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 2: It was him and a girl and it was like

496
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 2: a romantic comedy. Oh that was him.

497
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 3: I from Alien and right and he was Alien. That's

498
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 3: when were you watch Industry here in that too. I

499
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 3: haven't seen that yet.

500
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 2: I know ye though, yeah, man, he's he's and getting better.

501
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 3: Until this, I didn't care about him. I thought he

502
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 3: was fine in Alien. I thought it was fine.

503
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 2: And this, yeah, nah, he did his thing. He killed it.

504
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 1: I don't know what accent he was doing.

505
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 2: It was fine. I had it, bruh. That's why I

506
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 2: watched it. Twice.

507
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 4: There was another reason because there was a bunch of

508
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 4: girls kids in there talking, so they run the whole experience.

509
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,439
Speaker 2: That's why when I test y'all some kid, it.

510
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 4: Was like about thirty forty minutes left in the movies, like,

511
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 4: shut the fuck up, bro, it got whitet. They didn't

512
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,199
Speaker 4: say ship the rest of the movie real quick. And

513
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 4: then when I was so, I stayed behind. I was like,

514
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 4: I want to see who was talking. So I was

515
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 4: out through my phone awaiting kids. So the guy came out.

516
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 4: I was like, man, I ain't know it was kids. Man,

517
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 4: I feel bad, man, you know I could. He said,

518
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 4: my customers the funk out and I said, I said, no,

519
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 4: you should feel bad. They shouldn't have been talking. And

520
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 4: then they came out. They were like, man, you know

521
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 4: he didn't have to tell him shut the funk up.

522
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 2: We were talking. That's kind They weren't just strang. I

523
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 2: moved there.

524
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 3: It was packed like it wasn't an empty seat left

525
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 3: where I was in and almost sat on this side.

526
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,959
Speaker 4: So so them and the accents. Because I can't understand

527
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 4: the Asian, I couldn't understand that the black guy, I

528
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 4: can't understand the other black guy. I can understand the

529
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 4: white guy. I can't understand that. I can stand.

530
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 2: Going. I thought that was just Bro was killing me

531
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 2: everybody else. Isn't he from England?

532
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 6: He's the black guys always. I think I think he

533
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 6: was England trying to do a Southern accent.

534
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like, what is yeah?

535
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 4: You talking about six that's a Baker Art Baker. I

536
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:58,959
Speaker 4: can understand him in points. But African, dude, Yeah, God, Bro,

537
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 4: Africa to do it. African trying to do that Mississippi

538
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 4: trying to do a Southern ship. Jesus Christ gonna get

539
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 4: just dunk be jumping all over you.

540
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 2: I'm glad they gave.

541
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 6: Him the acting opportunity, but I was like, they playing

542
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 6: with us. Man, we know this dude not from the Mississippi.

543
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 2: Come on wrong.

544
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 4: We can Maryland sometimes understand African, and here you go

545
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 4: trying to do a son. You know, people struggling with people.

546
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, like some folks do struggle with Southern

547
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 4: that sense and the African Southern.

548
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 2: That's ship. That's insane.

549
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 3: They never been double. That's a crazy it's never been.

550
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 3: That's a crazy combination. That's like getting catch up in

551
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 3: solid dress how you're gonna make this ship work? But

552
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 3: I thought he was great anyway, bankovicage Barkovich starts teasing

553
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 3: of the kids name Rank, which turns into Rank trying

554
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 3: to hit him, which leads to Rank breaking the rules

555
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 3: and getting shot, and this becomes a discussion around Barkovic

556
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 3: being a murderer.

557
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:12,439
Speaker 2: Ab was he a murderer?

558
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 4: Oh?

559
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 5: He definitely played a role, clearly, because if he hadn't

560
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 5: been antagonizing them, then nothing that would have happened. But

561
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 5: I don't know, and may hopefully y'all can fill me in, Well,

562
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 5: why was he so did Why did that affect him

563
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 5: so much?

564
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 2: Though? Rank?

565
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 3: Yes, I think that what at least from what I got,

566
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 3: is that Rank to start to lose it earlier than

567
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 3: everybody else did.

568
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 5: Okay, that's all I took from just losing his mind because.

569
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 2: Of the situation.

570
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 6: Well, I thought it was because he came from an

571
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 6: environment where he was the one being teased like that,

572
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 6: because he said he never had a group, He never

573
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 6: had people, He was always a loner.

574
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 2: Okay, Why did that bother Rank so much? Where you

575
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 2: wanted to fight?

576
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 3: Oh?

577
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 2: You dude, the gut shot was? I don't know. I

578
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 2: thought you wasn't good, was he ranked? I don't know.

579
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 2: They were trying to, I think, and.

580
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 4: That's probably why he was lasting because Berks was calling

581
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 4: him sissy and stuff like that, and that's why.

582
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's what guys do even when they're not gay.

583
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 3: So I never really got the impression that he was

584
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 3: actually gay.

585
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 2: He he kind of had the man rhythm, That's what

586
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 2: I'm talking about. I think they implied.

587
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 4: I feel like, yeah, it looked like it. It wasn't

588
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 4: shut up, stop you're talking about the person.

589
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we had a bad anyway.

590
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: For the record, for those who't have video, I am

591
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: not laughing.

592
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, but but what But I think why Rank reacted

593
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 4: that way is because if that is indeed the case

594
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 4: to connect all the ship together is that if he

595
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 4: grew up being teased like Dan T's, then if Berkevich

596
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 4: is teasing him, he's gonna react violently to being he

597
00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 4: was ship.

598
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 2: Hold on, you know, no, See that's what happens, Jalen.

599
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 2: You can't take no days off no more, bro, that's

600
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 2: we lost connection to the camera.

601
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 4: Hold on.

602
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. See it's a long walkome be a long

603
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 2: ass review times. Yeah, we have to cut the conversations.

604
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 2: Let's cut. We can't cut the movie.

605
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 3: I think we should cut the combo because we've dropped

606
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 3: a lot of conbos lately, back to back.

607
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 2: People know they do, but you already watched the movie.

608
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 2: Let's just sue it. It won't be long that show

609
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 2: movie too. Yeah, so he's here to do the movie

610
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 2: history of all right, we are back you sure, Yeah,

611
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 2: the cable just became unplugged. All right.

612
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 3: So Rod rob Ronald gets the ships and ends up

613
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 3: dying for it. And after that, Ray gets delirious and

614
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 3: starts accusing Pete of wanting him dead. And shortly after

615
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 3: this one of the most tense scenes of the film happens.

616
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 3: This is where they're trying to make it up the hill,

617
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 3: maintaining that three miles per hour speed Rod.

618
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 2: Many of them don't make it.

619
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 3: Ray almost dies and Pete has to come help him

620
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 3: up the hill, and afterwards Ray apologizes to him for

621
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 3: what he said.

622
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 2: What did you think about this scene? I'm sorry, it's

623
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 2: the only one. I'm gonna have to go back just

624
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 2: a little bit every time. You can't. Yeah, where are

625
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 2: you going? Go ahead? Motherfucker? Fall asleep like he fell asleep.

626
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 3: I thought it was weird he fell asleep while he

627
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 3: was walking. Never you never fall asleep standing up, not walking,

628
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 3: not walking. But if you if you're walking for that long,

629
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 3: I think it's completely feasible that your body.

630
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 2: Could do that. I'm not saying that you can't.

631
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 7: I thought I thought it was interesting because people sleep walk, right,

632
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 7: that's a good point. Yeah, So so I was just like, okay,

633
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 7: I like that they.

634
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 2: Look like sleep walking is different. But him get this

635
00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 2: every time him. It was just the one that I thought,

636
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 2: I know, I didn't think it's kid about the Oh wow,

637
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 2: I didn't think about it anyway.

638
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 7: Let him get his thing on because he got to

639
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 7: add this ship right right right. But but no, yeah,

640
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 7: at first I was like, damn, I don't know. But

641
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 7: then I started thinking about sleepwalking. I don't know what

642
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 7: you have to say about that. But I started thinking

643
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 7: about sleepwalking, and then like, and I'm just trying to

644
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 7: make it make sense, like damn, this motherfucker's actually dreaming

645
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 7: like while standing up walking like three miles per hour.

646
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 4: So right, I did the same question because I was

647
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 4: wondering how to fuckers sleep? So I did look it up,

648
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 4: and yeah, it's definitely possible. They call it micro sleeping.

649
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 4: So yeah, and that's why you saw later on that

650
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 4: they were holding each other y Yeah, yeah, I got you.

651
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, so but yeah, because I was like, how the

652
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 2: hell that? Because I was like you, I was like,

653
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 2: what the hell?

654
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 5: It was? The keeping the pace part?

655
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think that it's almost like your body

656
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 3: goes in the cruise control. You're already walking that fast,

657
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 3: and then your body's continues going that fast. Honestly, he

658
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 3: probably would have made it further if you had just

659
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 3: stayed asleep, you know, because of your body doesn't know

660
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 3: it's tired.

661
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 7: But I feel like they were walking for quite some

662
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 7: time while they was sleep. Actually that's what it actually, well,

663
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 7: that's what it implied.

664
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,479
Speaker 3: I don't think so because it was quick. You can

665
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 3: you can fall asleep for five minutes and your dream

666
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 3: will be like an hour, you know what I mean.

667
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 2: So I think they were.

668
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: Trying to play with the time, but he's probably only

669
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: sleep for like thirty seconds.

670
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't want to go somewhere. That was interesting

671
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 2: that you know that they threw that in there, like

672
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 2: what the fuck? Like asleep?

673
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 7: But the hell part was intense. It's hell, like, man,

674
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 7: that that was a really really good thing because a

675
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 7: by this time it was it was dark. Yeah, yeah,

676
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 7: it rains, I think right, huh it was the hill raining, Yeah,

677
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 7: it was raining.

678
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 2: It was raining too. Yeah.

679
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 7: Man, they made this part intense. I don't know what

680
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 7: did you act specifically, but yeah, I did think this

681
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 7: part was really good.

682
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 3: To your point about the hill, we all watched a

683
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 3: lot of movies, so I'm thinking, Okay, they're not feel

684
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 3: to show us every kill.

685
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 6: How they gonna get the majority of these people out

686
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 6: of here? And I thought the heill was brilliant. Yeah,

687
00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 6: I was like boom, and it was so intense, like

688
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 6: roster like. It was like they were shooting right behind

689
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 6: somebody that was walking the right.

690
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 2: It was really good.

691
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 4: And Stevens giving the backstory about what happened in the

692
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 4: previous ones him for us, Yes, actually understand watching me

693
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 4: the people that ding.

694
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 2: Yes, that was a great reveal. It's like, oh, that's

695
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 2: how they gonna narrow it down.

696
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 3: But yeah, what I was really really focusing on this

697
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 3: scene was hearing I don't know why, but hearing Ray

698
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 3: apologized to Pete for what he had said to him.

699
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 3: Because Pete didn't have to come back and help him.

700
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 3: After what he said, he I felt like, you want

701
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 3: me dad, you know you're trying to get I don't

702
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 3: know what it was, but something about hearing that apology,

703
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 3: I was like, god, damn, this movie is.

704
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 2: Really like this movie is good.

705
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 4: What I liked about it was actually like Pete mccrees

706
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 4: just him coming to grab this guy, this random guy

707
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 4: that he just met and grabbing and the look of

708
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 4: intensity on his face like I got you, yeah man,

709
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 4: and yeah he was like don't where I got you.

710
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 4: And it's kept going and then like like you said

711
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 4: the apology him just like, oh my god, I can't

712
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 4: believe I just said that.

713
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 5: And Pete mccree's understanding, like, bro, you're delirious. We're all delirious,

714
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 5: so you know.

715
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 4: So yeah, No, that that was that was really dope

716
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 4: because because Garrett, because this head he told his white people,

717
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 4: it was like, nah, you want me dead, but but

718
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 4: get the away for me.

719
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 2: And I thought it was really good.

720
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 3: Like all of it added up to his monologue about

721
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 3: like what I've been through like and why I would

722
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 3: help you, like later on when.

723
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 2: He talked about like his life.

724
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, So what did you think about the conversation

725
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 3: where Pete's telling Ray how he thinks this is a

726
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 3: battle of the mind and not the physical, and that

727
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 3: he doesn't hate anybody enough to win, so when the

728
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 3: time comes, he'll just sit down and die peacefully.

729
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 2: I thought he was full of shit. I thought he

730
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 2: was full of shit. I ain't gonna live.

731
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 6: I didn't think that, like you sign up for this

732
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 6: at that point because I didn't know his backstory. Though, like,

733
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 6: once I found out the backstory, that made a lot

734
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 6: more sense. When he was explaining there was he was

735
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 6: helping people throughout the whole time. Yeah, but it could

736
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 6: have been, like dude said, to get in their head

737
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 6: and then when we get close. That's what I thought

738
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 6: before I heard the backstory. When I heard the backstory,

739
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 6: it's true now, like he was being authentic when he

740
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 6: said that. But in the moment, I didn't think that

741
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 6: he was saying that if you got that far, you

742
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 6: would just sit down like a plot.

743
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 2: I thought that was I thought that would be the twist. Interesting.

744
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 3: Even even so, I feel I feel why you would

745
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 3: think that. I always believed him after he said that

746
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 3: shit about it not being about anything, but moments I

747
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 3: believed him. I think he thought he was going there

748
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 3: to help people. I don't think Pete ever really thought

749
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 3: he was gonna win.

750
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: I don't.

751
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 3: I think Pete went there to help other people. And

752
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 3: he even said that if I will get to that

753
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 3: part later, but if I win, my wish is going

754
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 3: to be to help others. And I think that's what

755
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 3: he was going for. So when he said that, I

756
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 3: believed him. He's like, when I get tired, I'm gonna

757
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 3: sit down and die peacefully. I believe one hundred percent.

758
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 2: I mean he was. He was so believable that, like,

759
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 2: at one point I thought he was just a figment

760
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 2: of somebody's imagination, whether it was Ray or something. I

761
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 2: did have that thought. I know, yeah, because I know.

762
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 7: Steven Spielwerk, he but Stephen King, he put supernatural stuff

763
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 7: in his movies, right, so I thought that was gonna

764
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 7: be something.

765
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 2: I was like, man, what was this motherfucking not real?

766
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 2: He's just like a figurment of somebody.

767
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 7: Especially when he when he fell asleep and woke back up,

768
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 7: I was just like, wait a minute, hold on, what's

769
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 7: going on?

770
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 2: So for a while I did think that.

771
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 3: I thought that I realized everybody was talking to him. Yeah,

772
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 3: so I was like, Okay, I'm good because I was that.

773
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 2: Was gonna oh my god.

774
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 7: Keep him going like he's somebody in his mind to

775
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 7: keep him going. Yeah, keep him like moving.

776
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 3: Like I'm sick of seeing movies, like right right, right,

777
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 3: be real can wear with a big scar down his face,

778
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 3: like I'm not trying to see this ship.

779
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 2: That's how he died, and like.

780
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 3: I died in Long Walks and they cut my face.

781
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 3: Get the funk out of here, man. But no, I'm

782
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 3: glad that's not the case. But Harkness, Harkness I found

783
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,760
Speaker 3: to be a very interesting character. But he's been documenting

784
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 3: the whole thing. But he's somehow broken his ankles to him.

785
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 2: Getting shot because he can't walk. But that one of

786
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 2: the worst ones, was it? Man? Like he watched.

787
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 3: Yeah after this, uhlu, Skywalker tells him they officially made

788
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 3: it one hundred miles. But the question I want to

789
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,240
Speaker 3: ask Ken, what did you think about the discussion about

790
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 3: wishes where Pete says that his wish is for there

791
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 3: to be two winners for the Long Walk.

792
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 4: I thought it was beautiful man, like he had developed

793
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 4: such uh a kinshaw, this bond with this random white

794
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 4: guy that he met on this walk that and that

795
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 4: he would love that both of them could survive this

796
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 4: and do good in the world. That was what he

797
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 4: wished for so and nothing else. Man, that was a

798
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 4: very self selfless act on his path.

799
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 2: So I thought it was dope.

800
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was a good part from what I could

801
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 5: understand his dialogue.

802
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 2: That was one of the thing I thought that that

803
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 2: was good. He had, he had some bars.

804
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 5: I'll through this character.

805
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 2: It was so good and I keep going to this.

806
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 6: It was so good because later on you found out

807
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 6: that he had lived this whole life alone. He had

808
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 6: been going through all these places and this was the

809
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 6: first time were one of the few times in his

810
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 6: life that he really got to connect to somebody and

811
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 6: he didn't want to, Like he could understand somebody taking

812
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 6: this walk, building a connection and did you losing that

813
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 6: person at the end of the walk.

814
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 2: It was so good how he put that.

815
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: But let me throw this back at y'all. I don't

816
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: think he was talking about himself and.

817
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 2: Ray Well, that wouldn't move be possible, right exactly? Yeah,

818
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 2: So that's why I think it was.

819
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 3: Even more beautiful because it was completely removed from himself.

820
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 3: Because in order for him to win and even get

821
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 3: the wish, Ray would have to be shot. So he

822
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,439
Speaker 3: was trying to make it to where future people could

823
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 3: still win this game, but win it with somebody.

824
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 2: That's why I thought this was just agree amazing.

825
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 5: But it was like a flix, it was a flex.

826
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 5: It was a like, I mean, once I win this ship,

827
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 5: I still persist that. I don't know that he actually

828
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 5: thought he was gonna win it.

829
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 2: I mean, he signed pretty confident he was one of

830
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 2: the most people. Yeah, he could win it.

831
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 7: Yeah, he said, I've been walking all my life, y'all

832
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 7: ship on me.

833
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 3: I don't think he put it like that he exactly,

834
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 3: especially when on me. I don't think it was a

835
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 3: level of cockiness to saying that he was looking around.

836
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 4: But at the same time, he also said that if

837
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 4: this was a physical content, because I would win, But

838
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 4: it's mental things exactly.

839
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 2: That's why I disagree with you. But it seemed like

840
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 2: his mental was all the way there. He like, he's.

841
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: That's fine, but we're going back to what y'all just said.

842
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 3: I disagree with I don't think he was cocky and

843
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 3: being like, y'all ain't got ship on me.

844
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 2: I'm gonna win.

845
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 7: No, no, no, no, no, that's not I don't know.

846
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, that's just what I was adding to it.

847
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 7: I was adding like he ain't got I'm just saying that.

848
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 7: He did say I've been walking all my life. I

849
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 7: feel like I can win it.

850
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: And they also looked at stabbings and said he's so

851
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: in shape, he's a problem. He could easily win. He

852
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: would have wanted, right, So, yeah, yeah, I don't.

853
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know. Maybe I need to see

854
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 2: it again. I don't.

855
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: I never got cockiness at all from Pete.

856
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 2: I got.

857
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 3: If I win this, I'm gonna help people. When I

858
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 3: get tired, I'm just gonna sit down and just die peacefully.

859
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 3: Because if if he's that cocky, why would he even

860
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 3: say that I will.

861
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 2: He didn't look concerned.

862
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:51,919
Speaker 4: He did.

863
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 2: The only person one time, But that's what I'm saying.

864
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: He's the only one that didn't go through anything.

865
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 7: It just seemed like he was fine, And everybody seemed

866
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 7: like everybody that was walking either was sick, tired with

867
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 7: deception of the with the Native American guy CALLI yeah, yeah, yeah,

868
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 7: those two are the only ones that just seemed like

869
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 7: they were fine.

870
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 2: It was no problem but I but that didn't give

871
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 2: me cocky. That that gave me.

872
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: I am content being here and helping these guys to

873
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: the finish.

874
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 2: I'm with you. That's why I said. I pulled back,

875
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 2: like on the cocky came back, came up.

876
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 7: All but get about it, but no, like no, it's

877
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 7: more for more of a confidence. He seemed very confident

878
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 7: that he could that he can get there.

879
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Rob, what do you what do you think

880
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 1: we finally get to hear about raised wish.

881
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 2: Raised wish that?

882
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah, I thought that was interesting, something something

883
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 7: I kind of figured that's what it was.

884
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 2: It was something that happened.

885
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 7: He obviously made it seem like he wanted to to

886
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 7: to it at the general yeah or whatever, like like

887
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 7: he he just snatched his number from him and all

888
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 7: that type of shit, and he didn't respect them.

889
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 2: So I said, pas real fast.

890
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 3: I was that part bothered me. He shouldn't have done

891
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 3: that because that gave everything away, right, So.

892
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 4: So yeah, it seemed like, yeah, he had an issue

893
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 4: with him and even even uh mccree's asked, what's up

894
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 4: with you in the general major?

895
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 2: Right? Right? Yeah? I wish they had left that out right, right,

896
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 2: so I kind of, unfortunately, kind of what did you think?

897
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:30,760
Speaker 2: What's happening?

898
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 3: I thought the same thing Rogers said. I was like, Oh,

899
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 3: he's got an issue with the Major. The Major did

900
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 3: something to him personally, and that's why he's I thought.

901
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 2: He just had an issue with the whole thing. I didn't.

902
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 6: They didn't give it away for me, and I was wondering,

903
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 6: did y'all it seemed like he was kind of famous?

904
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 2: Is it because he was in his home state? Okay, okay,

905
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 2: that was all?

906
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I guess these people are looked at like celebrities,

907
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 3: the same way we look at football.

908
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: Players and baseball players and whatever else.

909
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, I'm glad you brought that part up

910
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 3: because I was like the beginning of the movie, I

911
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 3: was like, oh, something here, and you could have done

912
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 3: this just as well without including that.

913
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 5: That wouldn't have given away anything. But I like that

914
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 5: the flashbacks showed the state of the world though. Yeah,

915
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:12,959
Speaker 5: like you could just get pulled out of your crib

916
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 5: tried in the street and I was like, oh, okay,

917
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 5: so that's what time it is.

918
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 6: It made it made it make so much sense. The

919
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 6: car ride with his mom and she was like you

920
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 6: don't gotta do it. He was like, no, I do

921
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 6: I have to do this because he's still holding in

922
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 6: his head. You shot my dad now in the street

923
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 6: for him trying to teach me about the world like that.

924
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 2: That was fired.

925
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 3: But I felt Pete in that your dad didn't have

926
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 3: to do that because the general gave of the major

927
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 3: gave him an option. He said, you know, ren renounce

928
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 3: everything that you've done and I'll let you live. And

929
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 3: he was just like, no, that was standing up for myself,

930
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 3: believe in herself.

931
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 6: I think that made you a powerful I think that

932
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 6: made it more powerful. His dad to be teaching him

933
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 6: that behind his back and then go out in the street.

934
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 6: He couldn't be like, I know, you know what, you're right,

935
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 6: his son don't look at him the same, even though

936
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 6: he still has his son.

937
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 2: But just from a moral standpoint, his dad couldn't do that. Yeah,

938
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 2: you gotta stand for that. You can.

939
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 3: You can be like, okay, I renounce it all, I apologize,

940
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 3: I won't do it again. Then when you get back inside, like, son,

941
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 3: this is the world we live in.

942
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 2: Where you have to that would have been the smart

943
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 2: thing to do.

944
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 6: I agree, but I do I think it made for

945
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 6: a hell of a character and show why he would

946
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 6: go through so much and be in this long walk

947
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 6: because of what his dad talking me.

948
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 5: How would his son look at him if he would

949
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 5: have done it right?

950
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 2: If you done what are you teaching me bullshit? At

951
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:34,919
Speaker 2: least my son would be alive and I'd be alive

952
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 2: to talk to him.

953
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 4: I don't I don't know if the son would look

954
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 4: at his dad as teaching bullshit if he explained to him.

955
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 4: The reason why he renounced it basically is like I

956
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 4: need to have us at the table. If I'm not around,

957
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 4: then I'm unable to commit to help.

958
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 2: In the fight.

959
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 6: I don't disagree with that, but I do think it's

960
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 6: more powerful and impactful on his life that he did

961
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 6: it that way.

962
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 2: No, because both of them motherfucker's dad boom.

963
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 3: That is where I was gonna go right when Kim

964
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 3: was done talking. It's basically selfish.

965
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 2: That's realistic. Though.

966
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 6: The people that we see that are really like for

967
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 6: their calls, like they're not gonna get up in front

968
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 6: of people and say, oh, well, you don't got to

969
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 6: go to jail if you just say this.

970
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: They don't say in jail like I can still talk

971
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: to you while I'm in jail, That's true.

972
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's why this is different.

973
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, like you just shot me

974
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 3: in the head in front of my wife and child.

975
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 3: Because I wouldn't just lie to you and say I

976
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 3: renounce it. I can continue doing what I'm doing one

977
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 3: time back in the house. But I think the dad

978
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 3: thought it's more important for you to see this. This

979
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 3: is how they're gonna do is more important.

980
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 5: Wheah, What makes you think that they haven't already been

981
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 5: seeing that with other people.

982
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 6: They may have been seeing it, And I do think

983
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 6: that's why he was so interested in it, But I

984
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 6: don't think it was personalized for him. That made it

985
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 6: personal for him, That made it personal for him to

986
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 6: go out there for the long walk. And I could

987
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 6: wish for a million dollars, I could wish for all

988
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 6: these things, but I'm gonna wish for his gun and

989
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 6: I'm gonna shoot him so this ends, and this whole

990
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 6: regime goes down. That comes from his dad getting shot

991
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 6: right there. Yes, that don't happen if his dad don't

992
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 6: get But for for the point of if this is real,

993
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 6: what his dad did was stupid. God, what his dad

994
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 6: did was fucking stupid. I've been doing this behind the

995
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,439
Speaker 6: government's back. I can continue trying to do this behind

996
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 6: the government's back because even if I can't do it

997
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 6: to the same capacity that I've been doing it previously,

998
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 6: I might be able to inspire a greg or a

999
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 6: Marcus or a Sean to be more powerful.

1000
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 3: I can't do that dead, because who even knows I'm dead?

1001
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 3: My family and the major I'm not really a martyr.

1002
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,959
Speaker 3: I'm only a martyr to my son and now making

1003
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 3: my son go risk his life. And the whole point

1004
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 3: was all of y'all abandoned the mother, and it.

1005
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 2: Was all of you abandoned her. And he was doing

1006
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,720
Speaker 2: this for He was just like his dad, for revenge.

1007
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 2: And that's it. That's it.

1008
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 3: So yeah, But but you know what, the fact that

1009
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 3: we all have different takes on why this works shows

1010
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 3: how much of a good decision it was to do

1011
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 3: this in the film.

1012
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 2: Shows that this is fucking good ass writing. It was.

1013
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 3: So what did you think about the convo between Pete

1014
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 3: and Ray about the families sitting on the side of

1015
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 3: the road.

1016
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 2: I found this very interesting.

1017
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 3: I'm Rod I'm gonna actually know ab I'm an kick

1018
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 3: you because Rob probably gonna have to think about it.

1019
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 2: Can't remember this part. I'm definitely I remember the part.

1020
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 2: I can't remember what the cono.

1021
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 5: I remember the scene, but the specifics of the combo.

1022
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 2: Let me down.

1023
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,879
Speaker 3: Let me down about Rob's face that he was like, wait,

1024
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 3: I remember this happening, but I don't remember what happened.

1025
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 2: Really, I forgot. This sounds like text. All right, does

1026
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 2: anybody else remember?

1027
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 3: I don't won't always have to be explaining it because

1028
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 3: it makes me like, I think it helps actually nobody.

1029
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 2: Okay, So this is when there.

1030
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 3: Was like these families in the side of the road

1031
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,919
Speaker 3: and they were watching and he and and Ray looked

1032
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 3: at it, like, look at these fucking assholes. They just

1033
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 3: want to see people die. But then Pete was like, well,

1034
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 3: look you see that, but I see a family being

1035
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 3: together in this moment. That's why I want to start

1036
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 3: with your ass. So it sounds like some raw ass ship.

1037
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 2: That's what piss me off.

1038
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 7: It is it is something I would say, yeah, yeah,

1039
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 7: I probably would see this is the way the way

1040
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 7: Pete saw yeah, because you know, I don't like to

1041
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 7: think negative that people have this negative ideal on things,

1042
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:36,919
Speaker 7: you know, and yeah, it's just it's a family.

1043
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, I agree more so with what Pete was

1044
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 2: saying versus.

1045
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 6: I thought that was brilliant in the sense of like,

1046
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 6: you see one thing, I see one thing and pective.

1047
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 6: It's all about perspective, and there's a saying that says, like,

1048
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,959
Speaker 6: the first thought that you have, that's what you've seen

1049
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 6: from the world, what the world tells you. The second

1050
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 6: thought that you have, that's your personality.

1051
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 2: I like it, and that was I just heard it.

1052
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 6: God, bro, I think I think it was really powerful

1053
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 6: for him to be able to take that step back

1054
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 6: and say, you're just saying that because you're jaded.

1055
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 2: I'm not as jaded as you. Take it, take another look.

1056
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 2: I thought it was dope. Got anything else a can?

1057
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 2: He kind of agreed to everybody. Yeah, yeah, I know

1058
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 2: we're trying to get through it.

1059
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: I've already settled in that it's gonna be long.

1060
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 3: But I thought that that was a really really powerful

1061
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 3: scene and it definitely lends to stuff that happens later.

1062
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 3: Number four I can't remember his name, but he's the

1063
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 3: one that tried to jump on the tank and ends

1064
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 3: up getting his legs run over.

1065
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 2: This was a this was a twofer. So that happens.

1066
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 3: And then immediately after that, Trestler, who's the guy with

1067
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 3: the radio, the brother with the dreads. He tries to

1068
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 3: just run and he gets takes his clothes off. I

1069
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 3: can't believe y'all laughing, y'all dirty bro, because Man, they

1070
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 3: were trying to force me in the whole movie. We

1071
00:50:58,320 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 3: knew why wait what they're talking about? Hi?

1072
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 6: I feel like they were trying to force him in

1073
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 6: our perspective the whole movie. The guy with the radio,

1074
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 6: y'all talking about he.

1075
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 2: Was new, No, he wasn't new, but he didn't have

1076
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 2: any line.

1077
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 5: He kept coming up and dudes like, man, bro, who

1078
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 5: I thought that was?

1079
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 2: No, that's that was racist?

1080
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: And now another not you're bringing up. I don't know

1081
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 1: what happened to that black guy.

1082
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 2: I think that wasn't the same. That was the Yeah.

1083
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 2: I think he got shot on the hill, definitely. Yeah.

1084
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 2: He was always right there like no, no, not you?

1085
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 2: That was that was different about him. Yeah, I really did.

1086
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 2: He had to have gotten killed on the hill.

1087
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: They didn't make it clear because they they forced him

1088
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: in like they warning him.

1089
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that this guy was definite.

1090
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, this seemed like another guy that we haven't really

1091
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 4: we hadn't really seen. And that's when he came in

1092
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 4: with the radio when it was like yeah, even Steppens

1093
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 4: had to join in on that.

1094
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1095
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 3: So when they when they showed him getting in trying

1096
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 3: to run off and get shot, AB, what did you

1097
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,240
Speaker 3: think that this was them telling us is happening?

1098
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1099
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 5: I didn't really take anything other I did snicker a

1100
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 5: little bit, but I didn't really tell I didn't get

1101
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 5: the message from it though.

1102
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 2: I didn't really get him.

1103
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 3: I don't think there was a message per Sae, anybody

1104
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 3: else anything. Before I started yapping, they were breaking, they

1105
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 3: were I thought, started to kick in. Now show the

1106
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 3: different facts. Everybody's so tired and it's gonna do ship.

1107
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 2: It's crazy now.

1108
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 4: And they kind of really explained it later on when

1109
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 4: it comes when it came to os, did they try

1110
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 4: did they say that overnight that they had a time

1111
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:35,760
Speaker 4: to stop?

1112
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 2: So it was straight straight walking only the general sleep major.

1113
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 1: That's why he wasn't supposed to go No, the major

1114
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 1: is able to.

1115
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 6: Go home and sleep, but he wasn't supposed to. Remember,

1116
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 6: he was like it's it's a secret that the major's

1117
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:53,280
Speaker 6: what's rumored. They go showering, sleep, but they weren't supposed

1118
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 6: to know that. They thought he was up all night

1119
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 6: with them doing the same thing. Set in the same

1120
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 6: example for the America.

1121
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 1: Right, damn, you're right, Spike, yep, Wow, yeah, they don't.

1122
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: The rest of them don't.

1123
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 2: Crazy. I couldn't figure that out. He did a first yep, But.

1124
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought that part was just like, oh my god, man,

1125
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,280
Speaker 3: like this kid who seemed to be the more positive

1126
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 3: one because he didn't really talk that much, but he

1127
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 3: was like holding the radio and all that. But after

1128
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 3: he sees that one dude get his legs run over

1129
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 3: and shot, that was enough. He breaks because at first

1130
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 3: I was like, why is he getting naked? But that's

1131
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 3: if you see a.

1132
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: Lot of people that have mental health breaks, that's sometimes the.

1133
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 2: Take off their clothes. It's like, no one really understands why.

1134
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:39,280
Speaker 3: But yeah, anyways, so Ken, what did you think about

1135
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,800
Speaker 3: the scene where Hank loses it and he turns and

1136
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 3: he walks towards the trucks with the lights. He gets

1137
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 3: shot in the stomach. In my opinion, they do that

1138
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 3: to make him suffer and then Art goes running back

1139
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:53,959
Speaker 3: for him. So what did you think about this scene?

1140
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 2: This shit, This was a really dope, powerful scene.

1141
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 4: Because Hank throughout the movie was hanging on and he

1142
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 4: had talked about the gun, and we saw when those

1143
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 4: others two got killed, he had that gun.

1144
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 2: He was looking at it, and we could pretty much

1145
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 2: guess what happened to it just Art's reaction to it.

1146
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,320
Speaker 2: You know, Olsen was walking this whole time, like he

1147
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 2: looked like the walking Dead, bro. You could see him

1148
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 2: started deterioration. Yeah, like he was. He was barely hanging on.

1149
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 4: But what I loved is that we got insight into

1150
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 4: what happened to the other people because Steppings came up,

1151
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 4: who they didn't really mess with, was like, hey man,

1152
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 4: you need to check on your boy because I think

1153
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 4: he's done.

1154
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 2: You know, he's exhausted.

1155
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 4: And he went up and then he was he said

1156
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 4: he said something about the god in the garden and

1157
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 4: then he took off and ran got shot in the gut,

1158
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 4: called out for Art.

1159
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 2: And when Art ran back, and when when Ray ran

1160
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 2: back to Art and he was like he needed me.

1161
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 5: He called me like called my name man that ship

1162
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 5: and then when when ods was like, I dad it wrong.

1163
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god.

1164
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 6: And it was really dope that you could still hear

1165
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,320
Speaker 6: in the back of my warning first warning that was cold.

1166
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 6: You had this emotional scene, but it still didn't take

1167
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 6: you out of what the fuck is going on right

1168
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 6: now and didn't really like we.

1169
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 2: Spent we spent time with him. He was one of

1170
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:29,240
Speaker 2: the Musketeers, but he didn't have a lot of like lines,

1171
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:31,720
Speaker 2: you know. It was just kind of engaging.

1172
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:35,399
Speaker 4: It was like engaging and interacting with everybody else as

1173
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 4: part of the friend group, you know. But he was

1174
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,240
Speaker 4: just he was just that guy that's just always around.

1175
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 4: But it was really centering on Ray and mccrees the

1176
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,800
Speaker 4: whole time, and he was just like one of those figures.

1177
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:51,439
Speaker 2: But yet when he dies, like damn, this part broke

1178
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 2: me in the theater.

1179
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: Boy, I was two seconds away from a thug tear.

1180
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 2: I tell you what, though, that was for me. We

1181
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 2: ain't got that yet. This this this one, this one

1182
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 2: really and I.

1183
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 3: Was saying to myself, I'm like, why am I even

1184
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 3: attached to these people? And it's just it's just because

1185
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 3: the movie is primarily dialogue and it's just we're just

1186
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 3: spending so much time with these people, and he seemed

1187
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 3: to just be not necessarily comic relief, but almost the

1188
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 3: light the more lighthearted one.

1189
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 2: And for them to choose him to make suffer. And

1190
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 2: when he's just laying on the ground, he's yelling out,

1191
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 2: I didn't do it right. I didn't do it right.

1192
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,879
Speaker 3: And then seeing art and then having to pull him away,

1193
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 3: and this tall lanky black man just being like he

1194
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 3: called my name, he picked me, and I couldn't help him.

1195
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm like, yo, what the look rock

1196
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 2: right now? Y'all? I didn't even know they were. But see,

1197
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 2: that's the thing.

1198
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 3: That's the thing that's so great about this movie is

1199
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 3: it makes you become homies like that because you just

1200
00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 3: you mean something. Yeah, it's like you're trauma bonded. You're

1201
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 3: spending all of this time, and you're also delirious. So

1202
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 3: when you're delirious, either I hate you or I love you.

1203
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 2: There's no middle ground.

1204
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 6: So I think that that this movie did that so

1205
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 6: fun well man. And it wasn't for a fetch because

1206
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 6: they didn't have to show it. They just showed us

1207
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 6: the main two people that were paying together.

1208
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 3: We don't have we we had to figure that there

1209
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 3: were other silos like about the group, they just didn't

1210
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 3: have time to cover them, and there was their silo

1211
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 3: that it was great.

1212
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1213
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:32,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know arts thing. I think last new Baker,

1214
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 4: he was like, you know, I just wanted to do

1215
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 4: this just and maybe make some friends, you know. And

1216
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 4: I think I think Olsen felt like he had a plan,

1217
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 4: like he knew how to do this. He thought he did,

1218
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 4: get studied up.

1219
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did it wrong. Plan didn't work. And he said,

1220
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 2: I didn't do it right. I did it wrong. I

1221
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 2: did it wrong. Fu man.

1222
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 5: He chose the gum the whole time.

1223
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 2: Keep the gum let him down. Oh my god, man,

1224
00:57:58,480 --> 00:57:59,439
Speaker 2: this movie. That's what he said.

1225
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 3: He I don't know if he said that exactly, but

1226
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 3: I'm pretty certain he took the gum out and there

1227
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 3: was like this whole idea the gum stopped working for him.

1228
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't say anything about the gum. He was

1229
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 2: just looking at looking at what's going on.

1230
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, what you're talking about. He had talked about what

1231
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 4: the what his relationship with the gum and wife, and

1232
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 4: then he.

1233
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 3: Had this look on his face when he pulled it

1234
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 3: out and was looking at it. Yeah, that ship was

1235
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 3: crazy man. But after this, we get this revealed that

1236
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 3: Hank was married, Olsen was married, and they come up

1237
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 3: with this idea to give Hank's family some money. But

1238
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 3: Barkovich wants to be a part of the plan uh

1239
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 3: to get Hank some money, so Ray has to convince

1240
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 3: him that he's not a murderer, you know, and he's

1241
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:41,959
Speaker 3: actually one of them, He's actually part of the group,

1242
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 3: which then leads to Barkovich having a breakdown and killing

1243
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 3: himself by stabbing himself in the neck and getting shot

1244
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 3: with the spoon. Yes, and the thing. Okay, before I

1245
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 3: get to my ship, Abe, what what? What do you

1246
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 3: think happened here?

1247
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 2: I did? This is one that lost me.

1248
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 5: I didn't get why he was so why was he

1249
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 5: trying to get the friendship back?

1250
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:05,439
Speaker 2: I didn't.

1251
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 5: I didn't That one didn't connect. I was like, I'm

1252
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 5: I'm missing. I'm clearly missing.

1253
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 7: So I understood that part of it. I thought he

1254
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 7: was gonna bring up for something else. But I think

1255
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 7: he was trying to get the alliance part. If I'm

1256
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 7: not mistaken right, he wanted the alliance of at this point,

1257
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 7: at this stage of the game.

1258
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 3: But I think he's saying why if he was just

1259
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 3: gonna kill himself, why didn't even care about the alliance.

1260
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 7: So that's the part because I thought he had a

1261
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 7: bigger plan because he said something to somebody earlyer like.

1262
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 2: You thought I got a plan for you?

1263
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 7: Later Yeah, I'm like, so just for you just gonna

1264
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 7: kill yourself. I didn't understand that part either. Yeah, he

1265
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 7: was just talking.

1266
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 2: I think it's part of the craziness, like the craziness

1267
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 2: kicking in and early on.

1268
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 6: I think that was the recurrent theme though, And I

1269
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 6: also think that he explained it a little bit. He

1270
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 6: was like, bro, I said this earlier, thought I was

1271
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 6: talking about the wrong person.

1272
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 2: Though. It's like I've been by myself my whole life.

1273
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 6: I've been the kid that was being made fun of,

1274
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 6: and now I see people out here making friendships, making connections,

1275
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 6: and I'm the asshole this out here. I'm the asshole

1276
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 6: this out here making fun of people. Almost I called

1277
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 6: this dude to die, and then he was the last

1278
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 6: ditch effort for him to be like, no, I want

1279
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 6: to be a part of something too, And it was

1280
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 6: a reluctance. They was like, Okay, we kind of believe you,

1281
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 6: and do was just telling him what he wanted to hear,

1282
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 6: and I think he read through that. He took himself out.

1283
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 1: Oh I don't even so, I'm with you for ninety

1284
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 1: five percent of that.

1285
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 3: I don't know that he's offered with. I don't even

1286
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 3: think it mattered. But the one word that jumped out

1287
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 3: to me when he did it was legacy. He did

1288
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 3: not want his legacy to be I was the person

1289
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 3: that murdered somebody and Ray knew that. So Ray absolved

1290
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 3: him of that. So he was just like, yeah, you're

1291
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 3: not a murder man. We don't think of it that way.

1292
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 3: It's fine, it's fine.

1293
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 2: So then once he was absolved of that, he could die,

1294
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 2: he could take himself. He was like, I don't need

1295
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 2: to be here anymore, you know.

1296
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 3: So when he walked up, so the thing I was

1297
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 3: gonna say earlier, I saw that fucking spoon in his hand.

1298
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 3: I was like, bro, if he stabbed my boy Ray,

1299
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 3: that's what I thought was gonna happen. I thought either

1300
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 3: he was gonna stab Ray or he was gonna try

1301
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 3: to stab Ray and Pete was gonna jump in and

1302
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 3: get stabbed. But then when he walked away, I was like, Okay,

1303
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 3: that was weird the something happen with that spoon and

1304
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 3: when I thought that he jacked himself in the neck

1305
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 3: and I was like, Okay, that's what it was.

1306
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 2: He was at the end of his life. Just like

1307
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 2: they always say, your life lashes before your eyes where

1308
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 2: you're that, he.

1309
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 3: Was at the end of his life, and he's like,

1310
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 3: I don't want to go out of this world as

1311
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 3: being this awful person that they think I am. And

1312
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 3: he had one hundred and something miles of walking to

1313
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 3: think about that. So he was like, why didn't Pete

1314
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 3: ask me to be the part of the group. It's like,

1315
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 3: you guys really don't like me, and Ray could feel that.

1316
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 3: Ray was empathetic enough to be like, look, man, nah,

1317
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 3: don't worry about it.

1318
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 2: We don't think you're a murderer. And he's whispering you

1319
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 2: want Pete hear, because he might have been like, what

1320
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 2: the fuck we do? But nah? This this scene again

1321
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 2: was just beautiful.

1322
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 3: And the fact that when he drops they have to

1323
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 3: just keep walking. And I don't even think they showed

1324
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 3: his death because it.

1325
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 5: Was kind of faded in.

1326
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 6: They started doing them towards the end, and they only

1327
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 6: started showing the images I.

1328
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 2: Thought, I thought was great. I thought that was great.

1329
01:01:56,680 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, because by this point they stopped turning around. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1330
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 5: It's just it was just like part of the course

1331
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 5: at this point, like this is what happened.

1332
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 4: And they had a conversation about that earlier too. Yeah

1333
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 4: I hope I don't. Yeah, I hope I don't ever

1334
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 4: get used to that something like that. But the thing

1335
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 4: about Berkeovich, b Berkeovich was a very interesting character to

1336
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 4: me because he was clear to the bad guy of

1337
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 4: the movie, intentionally, unintentional, but I think that was just

1338
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 4: a way for him trying to have a purpose, like

1339
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 4: Michael was saying, a purpose in this group. Because remember

1340
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 4: in the very beginning, when they were introducing everybody, he

1341
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 4: made the joke about me Ma, and it was like me,

1342
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 4: you know, yeah, And remember the reaction like they everybody

1343
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 4: else got a very welcoming sort of reaction, And when

1344
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 4: he said that, they kind of clowned to be like,

1345
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 4: what the fuck look at this guy, So immediately he

1346
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 4: was like, Okay, you don't fit in. And so he

1347
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 4: had been picking and messing with people throughout the movie,

1348
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 4: and as soon as I saw it, as soon as

1349
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 4: I saw it, I was.

1350
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 2: Like, is he gonna ask Berkovich? And he didn't.

1351
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 5: The question I had is did Pete do that intentionally

1352
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 5: or did he get it distracted by Stebbins.

1353
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 3: I think Pete did it intentionally because they just weren't

1354
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 3: fucking with Barkervich because he was he was evil they.

1355
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 3: I think Pete did see him as a murderer. I

1356
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 3: think Pete's niceties only went to a certain point. Like

1357
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 3: Pete's not just like some fucking naive pushover. He saw

1358
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 3: Barkovich for who he thought Barkovich was, which was an

1359
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 3: evil person.

1360
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 4: But remember when he had asked Stebbins, and Stebbins saying

1361
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 4: fucking whatnot? Somebody says something and he started to have

1362
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 4: another conversation.

1363
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 2: It was like and it.

1364
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 4: Flows so seamlessly that it's almost like, oh, he didn't

1365
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:46,439
Speaker 4: get an opportunity to ask a point.

1366
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 1: That's that's a good point, and that could be it.

1367
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 1: I think that's cool that the movie left that open ended.

1368
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I don't know.

1369
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know either. I don't know either anymore.

1370
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know.

1371
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 3: But I did like this whole scene. I did like

1372
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 3: the idea that it opened up about how you want

1373
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 3: to go out.

1374
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 2: Uh. I like that.

1375
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 3: He ended he said something like We're gonna be boys forever,

1376
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 3: or I'm gonna be with you boys forever, something like that.

1377
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 3: When you're insecure, you it's it's easy to become the

1378
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 3: bad guy of the group. It's very easy because you

1379
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 3: need to find.

1380
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 2: A place, and being the bad guy is the easiest

1381
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 2: way to find a place in a group. Facts, you

1382
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So did it seem like they

1383
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 2: were upset about berkeer Vishtan and or do they just

1384
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 2: keep moving?

1385
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 5: No?

1386
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 3: I think they were just upset about seeing anybody die

1387
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 3: at that point. So they were just like, we're not

1388
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 3: gonna you know, we're not gonna cry or weep or no.

1389
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 3: But they were just like, damn, but he just stab

1390
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 3: himself from the fucking nut. You know, people are just crazy.

1391
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 2: Rod was the scene where Ray ran into his mom

1392
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 2: on the sidelines and almost got shot. Touching to you, Nah, yeah,

1393
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 2: it was, and it kind of it was some foreshadow

1394
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 2: in there.

1395
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 7: I think they talked about it before because they was

1396
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 7: saying about him being in his hometown, and at first

1397
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 7: I didn't really I ain't connected like that, But when

1398
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 7: I saw I was like, okay, that's that's what they

1399
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 7: were talking about. So that moment, then him thinking that,

1400
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 7: oh shit, I made a mistake. I thought that was touching.

1401
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 7: He was like, oh man, I shouldn't have did this.

1402
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 2: I should have seened my asses home.

1403
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 7: So so yeah, just him like kind of second guess

1404
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 7: that that was really powerful moment and real right you

1405
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying. Yeah, they've been doing this the

1406
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 7: whole time. I mean I think his feet was bleeding

1407
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 7: by this time. You can take his shoes like your feet.

1408
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 5: It just had her having to see his feet like that,

1409
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 5: like as a mother I could just imagine, and then

1410
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 5: her having to be like, it's okay, it's okay man.

1411
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that was crazy. Get why he didn't

1412
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 2: take no dead shoes?

1413
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, back up pair of shoes, no no, no, no

1414
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:21,439
Speaker 5: elers that died.

1415
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 2: It wouldn't have took you.

1416
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 3: You got warning, but your feet would have felt better,

1417
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 3: maybe even the second morning, but your feet would have

1418
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 3: felt thought.

1419
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 5: I'm like, why didn't take a back up because I

1420
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 5: feel like somebody had a pan over there.

1421
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have had three pair of shoes.

1422
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 6: He was step was definitely prepared man, I thought that

1423
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 6: was the most powerful scene in the movie, even beyond

1424
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 6: the end, and like just because it was brought up.

1425
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 2: He was like, you probably get a boost motivation when

1426
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 2: you see your mom. And then my boy was like, nah,

1427
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 2: it might work the other ways. See that's what I'm saying.

1428
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 2: They had talked about it.

1429
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 6: And then it looked like it was working that way

1430
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 6: for him. Hit him and turn around it and his pleased, like,

1431
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 6: I made the wrong decision. I did the wrong thing

1432
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 6: trying to run to her and she wanted him to come,

1433
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 6: but she knew the result of it, and telling him

1434
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 6: get away, man that.

1435
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 2: She was great a kid, She was good. She was good.

1436
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 2: The whole movie was.

1437
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 1: She just didn't get enough screen on the screen time,

1438
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 1: but in that scene was good.

1439
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 2: She killed it.

1440
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 7: Speaking of that, to like just those moments of him

1441
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 7: almost breaking it was it was cool to always hear

1442
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 7: not cool, but it was interesting to always hear them

1443
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 7: in the background counting off like three, two, the third

1444
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 7: one and this is the second one. It's always kind

1445
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 7: of hearing that in the back was really cool to

1446
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 7: add it to the movie.

1447
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 3: Ken, what'd you think about finally hearing Pete's story about

1448
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 3: his life, his family died.

1449
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was it was homeless. Uncle beat him and

1450
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:51,960
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Yeah it was you know,

1451
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 2: I mean a straw story. Man, it was a lot.

1452
01:07:56,440 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 2: It was a lot. Trying to think about it from

1453
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 2: a racial perspective. They called for that point. He said,

1454
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 2: I I was running.

1455
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 4: He said, my uncle beatman to the lead, driuted his

1456
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 4: own damn vomit or whatever.

1457
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 2: And then he said, I've been running my whole life.

1458
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:19,600
Speaker 5: And then I finally got caught through in jail, and

1459
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 5: I was like, god, damn cut his face with the

1460
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 5: wrong one and he cut me good, cut me, good old?

1461
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 2: Are you right the facts? I was thinking, how old

1462
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 2: are you?

1463
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 6: But that made sense that he's been doing his own

1464
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:34,639
Speaker 6: He was ten years old. That's like, that's a lot

1465
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 6: of seven years. I feel like there's a lot of life.

1466
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 6: But man, it made it built depth in his character.

1467
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 6: It built depth and made sense like he was like, man,

1468
01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:42,640
Speaker 6: I'm just happy.

1469
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:42,720
Speaker 2: To be here.

1470
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 4: The only thing is just like, I don't know, it's

1471
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 4: just like again, it's hard for me to take out

1472
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 4: certain parts of the movie based on my lips of

1473
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 4: spirits were like, man, the only thing I do is

1474
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 4: just I'm gonna choose love.

1475
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 5: I don't been through hell, but you know what, God

1476
01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 5: got me. This is like bruh, black people, I know.

1477
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 2: And that's the part I didn't like. That's the part

1478
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 2: I didn't like.

1479
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 4: It's like, oh, so you just gonna you've been through hell,

1480
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:10,639
Speaker 4: but you'll be like, oh, you know it's it's okay

1481
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 4: because I know some better way for me on the side.

1482
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm saying it for him and the approach, the

1483
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 5: cheek piece peace love me.

1484
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 3: I feel ken, but only because he was black man.

1485
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 2: This is always our story.

1486
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 3: I had the worst life in the world, and then

1487
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 3: I was like, you know what, I saw the light

1488
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 3: and I need to spread this, like y'all. I was like, man,

1489
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 3: I love you people if you don't get your ass

1490
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 3: to funk out my face like we had a brother

1491
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 3: I always want to be and now I done got

1492
01:09:54,240 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 3: me wool get your bubbles trip as he was, you

1493
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 3: know what, I loved it and hated it at the

1494
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 3: same time.

1495
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:16,679
Speaker 2: He was. He killed that whole He was a stand

1496
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 2: out of this movie.

1497
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I think he definitely. I'm looking at him

1498
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 3: now and I want to see what he does after this.

1499
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 3: Like real Roles but Collie the American guy, he grabs

1500
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 3: a gun and kills one of the soldiers before getting

1501
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 3: shot in the stomach and also made to suffer a bit,

1502
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 3: but then he kills himself before the soldier has a

1503
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 3: chance to do it. But that immediately is followed by

1504
01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 3: art Abe. What do you think about how Art went out?

1505
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:48,679
Speaker 2: Art Man?

1506
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:51,720
Speaker 5: Even though again I could barely understand them, I still

1507
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 5: fail them. I feel ful and we all knew. I

1508
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 5: feel like it was pretty clear who the last two

1509
01:10:57,439 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 5: were gonna be. Yeah, I didn't really take away from

1510
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 5: that because it's got to be a last two where

1511
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 5: it was two main characters.

1512
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 2: But that that was rough. How they held him up

1513
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 2: for so long.

1514
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 5: Man, it was they made I get a movie props

1515
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:16,879
Speaker 5: and the screenplaying hold on for making a walk interesting

1516
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:19,600
Speaker 5: where you mix it up with elements of weather or

1517
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:23,560
Speaker 5: you mix it up with an incline or whatever, but

1518
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 5: them having to hold it up like the mixture of

1519
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 5: ship like that, because that was touching. They did a real,

1520
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 5: real good job.

1521
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 2: Of that ship.

1522
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 5: It was.

1523
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 2: That was dope. Nah, I didn't, I didn't, but I was.

1524
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:41,560
Speaker 4: I knew once he said my nose bleeding, and I

1525
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 4: was really interested in like what was happening to him?

1526
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 2: So I love that step.

1527
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 4: It was like, oh, yeah, it's internal hemorrhagy and that happens,

1528
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 4: and he was just his body was just shutting down

1529
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:56,680
Speaker 4: and uh but you know him just saying you know, uh.

1530
01:11:57,520 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 4: What I found interested in this whole scene actually was

1531
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 4: was was mccree's. Peat's response, because remember this was right

1532
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 4: after Steppens was like, Yo, we can't help.

1533
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 2: Any anybody anymore, Like what are y'all doing? And uh?

1534
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 4: Up to this point, Ray is trying to help Baker

1535
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 4: move forward, and Pete like, nah, man, you fought a

1536
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 4: good fight.

1537
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 2: Bro. He said, yeah, you did good, but it's over

1538
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 2: for you, and he kind of let him go.

1539
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 4: So I don't know if the roles were reversed or

1540
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 4: he was just like, nah, there's nothing we could do

1541
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 4: to save this brother.

1542
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:33,599
Speaker 6: I liked his suggestion there, even though it sounded weird,

1543
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 6: because if we keep helping each other, we're gonna put

1544
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 6: each other through more pain, like they're gonna we're gonna

1545
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 6: be out here for much longer than we have to be,

1546
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:42,640
Speaker 6: and we know everybody can't make it.

1547
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 2: We can't do this.

1548
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 6: It makes it harder for the person to win. Yep,

1549
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 6: I thought that was fire. Oh I didn't take it

1550
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 6: would be merciful to art. Don't feel bad, man, if

1551
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:55,560
Speaker 6: it's time for you to go, it's time for you

1552
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 6: to go.

1553
01:12:56,280 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 4: And whether uh did race it or Macree said Rod

1554
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 4: when he was like, and you made some friends along the.

1555
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 2: Way, which is what he yeah, which is what he

1556
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 2: wanted to do, said I have to make.

1557
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:10,680
Speaker 1: Some friends, and you make man. When he said, promise me,

1558
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:11,919
Speaker 1: you're not gonna watch.

1559
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:21,640
Speaker 2: Their faces when it happened, the.

1560
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 3: Face of absolute terror, because they showed him turn around

1561
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 3: and walked straight towards the light, just like Olsen did.

1562
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:31,639
Speaker 2: And then you just hear it in the background, Oh

1563
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 2: my god, and I'm going home. I'm going home. I

1564
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 2: forgot about that part. I'm gonna go home.

1565
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 7: And he had an a tense moment before that too,

1566
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 7: when he had to take a ship, like, oh yeah, yeah,

1567
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 7: we have to.

1568
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:46,479
Speaker 2: Go back to that. I'm just look, I can't wait

1569
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 2: to you. I can't wait to you something I'm looking for.

1570
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 2: But but Rob's right, we can't just ignore Bro like

1571
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 2: he wasn't powerful. He did.

1572
01:13:58,080 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 4: But I'm just saying the fact that because I was

1573
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 4: what I was like what was gonna have to use

1574
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 4: the bathroom. And remember maccrees sprayed everybody like watch out,

1575
01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 4: y'all said they't coming or whatever.

1576
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 2: That was Actually that was actually But.

1577
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 5: I'm glad they addressed it though, because they could have

1578
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 5: just left that out and we would have just been

1579
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 5: like how they took But I like that their shoulders

1580
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 5: because he.

1581
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 4: Was just pinch it off, yeah, hurry up, just pinch

1582
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 4: it off, man, And then he said then he was thinking,

1583
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 4: was like, hey man, you just.

1584
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 2: But it seems like they would have this sounds crazy.

1585
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:34,639
Speaker 2: They they would have just shipp on themselves. Some of them.

1586
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 2: Now now now we see you talking about this, you

1587
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 2: could have moved on them. Did some of them?

1588
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm sorry, last thing. Some of them did shoot

1589
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 4: on himself and and step and said Olsen.

1590
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 2: Did got you?

1591
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1592
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 2: And then he was they were in front of him,

1593
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 2: so you can't spell that. You need to go check

1594
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:52,560
Speaker 2: on your boy. This should have been a part of

1595
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 2: your five points. No, because it wasn't that important, he was.

1596
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 2: It wasn't. Absolutely people taking ships is not.

1597
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 3: I mean, I would assume a long either you're in

1598
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 3: your hands or you're popping the ship and you're running.

1599
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 2: No, they can't leave that up. Bron wait till you

1600
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 2: can't wait. I can't wait. It better not be next

1601
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 2: week either, So a spraying this ship right? That was

1602
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:18,559
Speaker 2: wise like a murl. This is for anybody.

1603
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:21,640
Speaker 3: What did y'all think about Stabbin's reveal about being the

1604
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 3: major son and his story about the rabbit and.

1605
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 2: The dog races.

1606
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 7: That was something else that I figured too. I figured

1607
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 7: that he was probably his son. Okay, Yeah, I felt

1608
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 7: stupid because when he said it. I remember at the

1609
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 7: beginning of the movie he said, good luck son. Oh

1610
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:42,679
Speaker 7: I didn't catch that, That's what I'm saying. It seemed

1611
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 7: like he just said it just because that's the old

1612
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 7: man the young man. Yeah, good luck son. But he

1613
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 7: was But I remember when he said it. He was

1614
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 7: the only person he said it to, So I thought

1615
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 7: it was weird.

1616
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 4: But I never even the only The only reason why

1617
01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 4: I'm saying now is because when I went back and

1618
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:00,840
Speaker 4: watched it again, it's it out because now I.

1619
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:06,600
Speaker 5: Know the reveal, But I never saw that ship what

1620
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 5: it was. But I had a feeling that that was

1621
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:09,639
Speaker 5: his dad.

1622
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 2: I knew one of them because he was the one

1623
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:13,800
Speaker 2: that knew so much about the race, right, was he

1624
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 2: the one that knew? Yeah? Yeah, And that was that's

1625
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 2: when they kept asking, like what the hell was going

1626
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 2: on with the race?

1627
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:21,639
Speaker 3: And then he was like, he's the son because him

1628
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 3: being a bastard son wouldn't give him any more access

1629
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:25,560
Speaker 3: to the information.

1630
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:27,200
Speaker 2: About what he cared more about. He was more into

1631
01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 2: it because it was dead.

1632
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:31,840
Speaker 3: But but why would he care more than Ray? So yeah,

1633
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 3: I never I mean, you know, it's cool that y'all

1634
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:36,439
Speaker 3: guessed it. I must have been guess.

1635
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was saying like I was just saying, it's

1636
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 2: always only Rob. Yeah, yeah, I forgot what it was

1637
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:49,720
Speaker 2: that that kind of made me think it was him. Yeah.

1638
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 4: He was like, man, say something real, because that was good. Yeah,

1639
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 4: and I love real good. But he had started to

1640
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 4: kind of warm up. They started kind of warm up

1641
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 4: to him, you know, as a and on it was

1642
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:03,840
Speaker 4: very reluctant. But now it was three of them, and

1643
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 4: you know, he was like, man, you know, because he said,

1644
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 4: some people like man, say something real. But the whole

1645
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 4: thing about the rabbit though, that was that was an

1646
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 4: interesting line too. It was like it's not even flesh,

1647
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 4: he said, but just chasing him because you think you're

1648
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 4: gonna catch it, and you just never will. And I'm

1649
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 4: thinking about the system and how we're in the system

1650
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 4: and they sell the American dream, which is the rabbit

1651
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 4: and work yourself up to the top, you know.

1652
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:30,960
Speaker 2: So he said that he was the white rabbit. Was

1653
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 2: not the white rabbit. He just said that he was

1654
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 2: the rabbit race.

1655
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:39,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the That was the main part that

1656
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 3: I was I was asking about the main part that

1657
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:45,680
Speaker 3: I was focusing on. So that was a cocky statement though, right, No,

1658
01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 3: that was not No, So if you think about it, right,

1659
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 3: so you could view it that way, absolutely, But when

1660
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:54,760
Speaker 3: he said the rabbit isn't even flesh and blood, it's

1661
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 3: just a symbol and the dogs chase it, I think,

1662
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 3: and I could be wrong, but I was thinking that

1663
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:03,880
Speaker 3: he was talking about himself and his situation with the Major,

1664
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 3: and that when he entered the race, he was really

1665
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:11,439
Speaker 3: just a symbol of the Major's greed or what do

1666
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 3: you call it, like sexual.

1667
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 2: It's not a deviance, but you know what.

1668
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 3: I'm talking about, just like being a being a ho. Yes,

1669
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:25,960
Speaker 3: So he when he entered the race, that's what he symbolized,

1670
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 3: was the Major going around and not caring about the

1671
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 3: fact that he's fucking around and having illegitimate children. But

1672
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:34,720
Speaker 3: then when his body starts to go out, and he

1673
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 3: starts to realize that I am actually human, and now

1674
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 3: his one wish was to be invited to his father's house.

1675
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:44,599
Speaker 2: But then he realized that his dad might not even

1676
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:45,320
Speaker 2: know he exists.

1677
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:49,800
Speaker 3: He realized that his dad might not even know that

1678
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 3: he's his son, because odds are he's probably got a

1679
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 3: bunch of illegitimate children around because the Major is the

1680
01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 3: top dog in that system.

1681
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:02,600
Speaker 1: So I think he just thinks that.

1682
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:04,679
Speaker 3: He's just a symbol of the Major's greed and whatever.

1683
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 3: But he realizes once he's in the race that he's

1684
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 3: more than that, that he's human. But by that point

1685
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 3: it's too late for any of it to matter.

1686
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 5: See, I was wondering if he knew that it was

1687
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 5: a symbol when you say he said son at the beginning,

1688
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 5: he knew.

1689
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:18,679
Speaker 3: I don't know, So I think that what they probably

1690
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 3: were doing with that was that was the fuck with Stabbins.

1691
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 3: So he says good luck son, not necessarily saying hey,

1692
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:30,040
Speaker 3: good luck my son, but to Stabbins, that's.

1693
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:30,840
Speaker 2: What heard his head.

1694
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeahs oh you're calling me son, I'm here

1695
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:37,719
Speaker 3: for a reason. This is going to work out, whereas

1696
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:39,599
Speaker 3: the major was just like, good luck son. I don't

1697
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 3: know that he knew that he was his kid.

1698
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:42,800
Speaker 2: That's interesting, but he was the only reason.

1699
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:44,720
Speaker 4: The only thing is he was the only person he

1700
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:46,640
Speaker 4: said it to, and that that's and then I think

1701
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:48,599
Speaker 4: when he was having that conversation, when he was telling

1702
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 4: him about that, he was like, I didn't even think

1703
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:52,960
Speaker 4: he even knew who I was, But when he heard

1704
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 4: him say good luck son, it was like that's when

1705
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:57,080
Speaker 4: he realized was like, oh shit, he does know who

1706
01:19:57,120 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 4: I am, yet he let.

1707
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 2: Me enter in the race anyway.

1708
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 3: That's why I don't think he knew because when he

1709
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:05,880
Speaker 3: gets killed, he showed nothing. So if he's gonna call

1710
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:08,160
Speaker 3: him son at the beginning because he knows he's his son,

1711
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:10,840
Speaker 3: then I think he would have showed a drop of

1712
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:12,760
Speaker 3: emotion when he just saw his son get shot in

1713
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 3: the head.

1714
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:15,920
Speaker 4: When he showed nothing, I know because I think because

1715
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:19,040
Speaker 4: he he's never cared about his son this whole.

1716
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 2: But then Pooty cared enough to call him son. I

1717
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:24,040
Speaker 2: think maybe I don't know, I don't know.

1718
01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:25,559
Speaker 6: I think it was just a fun with his head

1719
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:28,559
Speaker 6: like it was a mental paradox as to what Mike

1720
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 6: was saying. He's saying it like you said the first

1721
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 6: old man to a young dude, took it as oh

1722
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:36,760
Speaker 6: he recognized me, is my son. I think it was

1723
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:39,559
Speaker 6: two different perspectives on it, which makes it actually more brilliant.

1724
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 6: But I think he well, we also say he has

1725
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 6: a lot of bastard sons out there anyway. I think

1726
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:46,280
Speaker 6: he's just a shitty as you know father.

1727
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 2: That's the point. Yeah, so so.

1728
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:51,759
Speaker 4: But since he never raised the kid, was never around,

1729
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:54,800
Speaker 4: he just knew he existed, he wouldn't show any type

1730
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 4: of remorse that care for him because he don't give

1731
01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:57,720
Speaker 4: a fuck about him anyway.

1732
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 3: Right Always what I know, they always get onto us

1733
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:04,599
Speaker 3: about getting stuck on something, but fuck it, y'all, motherfuckers

1734
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:04,880
Speaker 3: came here.

1735
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 2: We didn't beg you to listen to this ship. Uh

1736
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:18,439
Speaker 2: you listen. I'm with you. I get it.

1737
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 3: But I think that he would have had to show

1738
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:23,960
Speaker 3: some level of care and knowledge in order to say

1739
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:26,960
Speaker 3: good luck son. But I think it would be weird

1740
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 3: for them to show that he's showing this level of

1741
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 3: care to say what up son or good luck son?

1742
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 3: And then for him to just not show a single

1743
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:38,200
Speaker 3: drop of emotion later on when he's shot in the head,

1744
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 3: I think it would just be weird writing.

1745
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:42,840
Speaker 4: Now, if you got basket sons out there, you don't

1746
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:44,640
Speaker 4: give a fuck. Think about Game of Thrones, they had

1747
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 4: a lot of basket son. They don't care about.

1748
01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:49,800
Speaker 3: Calling them, hey son, come here son, good luck son.

1749
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 3: They weren't saying that, So I think for him to

1750
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:56,560
Speaker 3: actually put in the good luck son would show that

1751
01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 3: he had some level of give a fuck of give

1752
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 3: a fuck for this kid.

1753
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 2: But I think that in the term of the story,

1754
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:06,960
Speaker 2: and I could be told wrong.

1755
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:09,320
Speaker 3: Obviously I didn't read the book, but in the in

1756
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:11,680
Speaker 3: the terms of the story, I think that that was

1757
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:16,720
Speaker 3: just to show why Stabbins was here and why he

1758
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 3: gave a fuck so much to finish this race.

1759
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:20,880
Speaker 2: But maybe I'm wrong.

1760
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:23,800
Speaker 3: If anybody that's listening has read the book and they

1761
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 3: delve more into that, please let me know, because I'd

1762
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:27,520
Speaker 3: actually be kind of curious.

1763
01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 5: That that good look son sounded soul just like this,

1764
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:34,640
Speaker 5: this is what he says to gas everybody to make

1765
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 5: it seem like that's how I took it. Yeah, that's

1766
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 5: it just seemed like he's gassing niggas motherfuckers up the

1767
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:39,680
Speaker 5: whole time.

1768
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 2: He didn't give it.

1769
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:41,639
Speaker 5: He ain't taking shades off none.

1770
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 4: I don't think he said it in a caring way.

1771
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:50,680
Speaker 4: It's just in a in a way to acknowledge, like

1772
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:55,839
Speaker 4: I know that you're a mind, you know, So I don't.

1773
01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:57,120
Speaker 5: Know that's a good call out, though I didn't catch

1774
01:22:57,160 --> 01:22:57,479
Speaker 5: it first.

1775
01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 3: So Ray tell's Pete that he's used. He used to

1776
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 3: be afraid of death, but he wasn't anymore. Do you

1777
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:05,679
Speaker 3: remember this convo?

1778
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 2: Rod?

1779
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 3: He says he realized that everybody's gonna die, but what

1780
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 3: matters is how you spend those final moments. Okay, well

1781
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 3: this was to me and maybe nobody else gave a fuck,

1782
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 3: But I found this be very, very very important, especially

1783
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:24,799
Speaker 3: for how his character plays out later. He was basically

1784
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 3: saying that, you know, for a lot of us, death

1785
01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 3: is the worst thing. You know, we're terrified of death.

1786
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 3: But then as he's been walking, he realizes that, look,

1787
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 3: death isn't really the main thing. The main thing is

1788
01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 3: how you're spending these moments, which he got from Pete.

1789
01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:44,280
Speaker 3: Put that seed into him. No pause, Spike. So I

1790
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 3: think that this was actually really interesting because that calmed

1791
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:50,200
Speaker 3: him in that moment. So if nobody cared about that,

1792
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 3: we'll move on to.

1793
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:53,680
Speaker 2: The next point. Well, no, I think it was an interesting.

1794
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:59,440
Speaker 4: Kind of turned for him and a sort of acceptance,

1795
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 4: you know, which was interesting in how the movie played

1796
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 4: out later on. For him to say that was an

1797
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 4: admission of like, you know, it's over for me, and

1798
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:18,599
Speaker 4: I'm willing to sacrifice myself for somebody that because remember

1799
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:20,840
Speaker 4: when we was talking to to mccreees earlier, Pete earlier,

1800
01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 4: he was like, I can't see the things you see,

1801
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 4: and that all came back later and I think this

1802
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:27,600
Speaker 4: was at the point where he kind of realized that

1803
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:30,320
Speaker 4: he won't ever have those eyes.

1804
01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 3: It's about those moments and that's really it. I don't

1805
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 3: have the ability to see life the way you see it,

1806
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 3: which leads.

1807
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:39,679
Speaker 2: Us to the next part.

1808
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 3: Pizza is down, tries to give up, which again kind

1809
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 3: of goes back to what I was saying earlier is

1810
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:46,840
Speaker 3: I don't think he ever really thought he was going

1811
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:49,800
Speaker 3: to finish, but Ray comes back and convinced him to

1812
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 3: keep walking.

1813
01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:54,960
Speaker 2: Spike, where did you think when Ray then chose to

1814
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 2: sit down? And what about his reasoning for giving up?

1815
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:02,040
Speaker 2: I was rise. I thought it was really good.

1816
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:05,479
Speaker 3: How he kind of just faded when he when Pete

1817
01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 3: first decided to sit down, he kind of just faded

1818
01:25:07,479 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 3: back and raided and noticed and then he turned around.

1819
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:12,200
Speaker 2: He saved him. You just convinced him to get up.

1820
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:15,599
Speaker 2: And then his reasoning was what again? What did he say?

1821
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 2: His reason was, he doesn't see the light.

1822
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's what he loves about Pete.

1823
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:23,599
Speaker 1: Yes, Oh my god, stop trying to make a thug cry.

1824
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 2: I couldn't.

1825
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, because if I win, I'm not gonna do the

1826
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 6: things that you do with this victory. So I'm gonna

1827
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:30,760
Speaker 6: sit down and then sacrifice my dad.

1828
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 2: That was fire. I thought it was a hell of

1829
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:33,800
Speaker 2: a way and ended.

1830
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:35,680
Speaker 6: I suspected that they were just gonna go with the

1831
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 6: easy route and let let him just do it, because that.

1832
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:40,240
Speaker 2: Was the first person we seen on the screen.

1833
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:42,599
Speaker 6: But to switch it up like that and have him

1834
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 6: actually take his thought process and sit down when like

1835
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 6: it's over for me, I thought it was dope.

1836
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 3: And he didn't even notice. That was so good that

1837
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 3: he didn't even notice. Yeah, he thought he was walking

1838
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 3: with him. They were so and go up through the conversation.

1839
01:25:55,680 --> 01:25:58,720
Speaker 3: We've been three hundred miles walking you my guy. Now,

1840
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:01,320
Speaker 3: I'm just talking with the depth of this. And then

1841
01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 3: you don't even know that he bowed out.

1842
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 2: And he got on warning helping Pete. Yeah, jesus, Yeah

1843
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:15,720
Speaker 2: that was good. What about anybody else?

1844
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 5: That was a powerful scene. I will say that and

1845
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:23,600
Speaker 5: we'll get to just next that what happened at the

1846
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 5: end kind of goes against what he didn't do, what

1847
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:30,479
Speaker 5: he sacrificed himself for.

1848
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, he changed. Their perspective switched exactly.

1849
01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:36,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, their perspected their perspective switched because he ended up

1850
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:39,840
Speaker 6: doing the same thing that he said the other guy

1851
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:41,560
Speaker 6: said he was going to do. But that's not what

1852
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:43,760
Speaker 6: he sit down for. He didn't sit down for you

1853
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:46,240
Speaker 6: to do that, which I thought was great too. But

1854
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:47,960
Speaker 6: I would have liked it the more I would have

1855
01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:49,599
Speaker 6: wanted something to happen. I want to see what they

1856
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:53,559
Speaker 6: did about that. I didn't like to fade out. Yeah,

1857
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:57,560
Speaker 6: I get to that, But I did not see this

1858
01:26:57,800 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 6: coming at all.

1859
01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:00,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a good twist, and this is what

1860
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:04,800
Speaker 4: made the movie for me, bro because watching it, I'm like,

1861
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 4: you guys, I'm like, okay, you know, Ray and the

1862
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:10,519
Speaker 4: mom we saw the moment they had together, which was great.

1863
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:12,720
Speaker 2: Like this is leading to that, ye.

1864
01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:18,759
Speaker 4: And you can see Pete throughout, especially in the last

1865
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:23,400
Speaker 4: like part of the movie, just looking at him, and

1866
01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:26,559
Speaker 4: especially after he told him that story and he heard

1867
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:29,240
Speaker 4: another story. He just sitting there and they walked there walking,

1868
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:31,479
Speaker 4: Ray just looking ahead and Pete just looking at him,

1869
01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:33,560
Speaker 4: and it's like that's when he made the decision. He

1870
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:35,800
Speaker 4: was like, you need to be with your mom, and

1871
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:37,800
Speaker 4: I'm gonna let you have that moment. That was his

1872
01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:42,200
Speaker 4: good his contribution to the world. And when he just

1873
01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:45,760
Speaker 4: stopped and sat down. And now that we've been talking

1874
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:49,040
Speaker 4: about him, Mike, I think you might be right because

1875
01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:50,600
Speaker 4: that is that's what he said he was gonna do,

1876
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 4: and that's exactly what he did. So I think you

1877
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 4: might probably write about with that.

1878
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 1: He wanted to die saving people and he's saved.

1879
01:27:57,240 --> 01:27:58,880
Speaker 2: In his mind, he was gonna say he was gonna

1880
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:01,840
Speaker 2: save Ray so they can be with his mom, so

1881
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:03,599
Speaker 2: she man.

1882
01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:08,679
Speaker 1: Where somebody won the race.

1883
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if it wasn't him, he wanted someone.

1884
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 4: But when he picked when he picked him up and

1885
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:16,880
Speaker 4: they were walking and and Ray was like, just walk

1886
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:18,000
Speaker 4: with me in a little bit more.

1887
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:21,599
Speaker 5: And that motherfucker dropped back. Yeah, that was and then

1888
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:22,880
Speaker 5: all you heard was boom boom.

1889
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 2: Bro. I was like yo, and then man shot him.

1890
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 2: He was like what did you do? What did you do?

1891
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:36,280
Speaker 2: And you just saw the man rod crazy. Hey, Bro.

1892
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:39,200
Speaker 4: It was it was powerful because it's it's it's like

1893
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 4: you think movies would like Spice that take the easy

1894
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 4: way out, and they did not.

1895
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:46,599
Speaker 2: I think it man, it was. It was. It got

1896
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 2: me bro, like the.

1897
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:50,840
Speaker 5: Predictable way would have been because I'm sitting there thinking, okay,

1898
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:52,400
Speaker 5: it was about to happen. I'm thinking, I'm thinking that

1899
01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:55,080
Speaker 5: Pete was about to sacrifice himself for Ray.

1900
01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 2: That that felt.

1901
01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:58,840
Speaker 5: That's where it was leading to the very first person

1902
01:28:58,920 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 5: we meet, his Ray.

1903
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 2: He was the name.

1904
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:04,240
Speaker 5: So I'm thinking, Okay, that's kind of predictable, but I'll

1905
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:04,920
Speaker 5: take it it.

1906
01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:10,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but think about this also, ride because.

1907
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 4: It's almost like because we were having a conversation earlier

1908
01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 4: about him basically doing the same thing that he that

1909
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:22,200
Speaker 4: his dad did, and even in this moment he did

1910
01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:24,720
Speaker 4: it again. He said what he said, tell my mom,

1911
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:29,200
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, bruh. And and so I'm like, Bro,

1912
01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:33,519
Speaker 4: you just lovet your mom by herself, like.

1913
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:36,519
Speaker 2: He said, and even even said he said, I'm just

1914
01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 2: like my dad.

1915
01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:43,080
Speaker 3: I think he knew even if he won the race,

1916
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:45,280
Speaker 3: he was still not going to be there for his

1917
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 3: mom because all he could.

1918
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:51,040
Speaker 2: See is anger, revenge and chain and revenge.

1919
01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:54,000
Speaker 3: Even once he killed the major, I don't think that

1920
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:56,200
Speaker 3: was gonna be enough for him. He was never going

1921
01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:57,720
Speaker 3: to be a loving person.

1922
01:29:57,720 --> 01:29:58,840
Speaker 2: And maybe PTSD.

1923
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:03,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I was about to say, there's really no winner.

1924
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:06,559
Speaker 5: After going through all of this, you've seen the last

1925
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:09,960
Speaker 5: person standing. They're not gonna be happy or excited or

1926
01:30:10,040 --> 01:30:12,320
Speaker 5: you're going to be fucked up from here on out.

1927
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:14,080
Speaker 5: So there's really no quote.

1928
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:16,120
Speaker 3: Unquote winter in the worst like we're turning back for

1929
01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:20,759
Speaker 3: more like you said exactly. So yeah, so that makes

1930
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 3: Pete the winner. Rod, What did you think of what

1931
01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:31,040
Speaker 3: went down after they shoot Ray because Pete then shoots

1932
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:34,439
Speaker 3: Luke Skywalker and then the movie kind of ends with

1933
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:38,519
Speaker 3: him walking off. So how did you think the movie ended?

1934
01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:43,400
Speaker 2: Well, first thing I thought was like, they can't kill

1935
01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:43,920
Speaker 2: the black guy.

1936
01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:45,720
Speaker 7: I was just like, they've been not they've been I

1937
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:47,760
Speaker 7: was just telling they've been not leading away for us

1938
01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:51,559
Speaker 7: or whatever with the ending or whatever. So so yeah,

1939
01:30:51,560 --> 01:30:53,320
Speaker 7: I was thinking, like, no, they're not gonna kill the

1940
01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:55,360
Speaker 7: black guy. So I was really curious to see how

1941
01:30:55,400 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 7: they were going to handle that. And I still felt

1942
01:30:57,160 --> 01:31:00,280
Speaker 7: the intensity of it, not knowing if they were gonna

1943
01:31:00,280 --> 01:31:01,640
Speaker 7: shoot him right afterwards.

1944
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:05,600
Speaker 2: So I was happy that they didn't shoot him. I

1945
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:07,240
Speaker 2: was left a little.

1946
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:12,160
Speaker 7: Slightly confused as to what actually happened, Like what did

1947
01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:15,960
Speaker 7: that symbolized towards the end of him just walking off

1948
01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:18,960
Speaker 7: without when because we didn't even hear or see the

1949
01:31:19,040 --> 01:31:23,200
Speaker 7: crowd anymore, right, so like his spirit walking off, like

1950
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:26,120
Speaker 7: I don't know what was going on. But so yeah,

1951
01:31:26,160 --> 01:31:28,559
Speaker 7: I was left a little confused. So I was hoping

1952
01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:31,519
Speaker 7: that you know, you guys had an idea. Anybody want

1953
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:32,080
Speaker 7: to feel that out?

1954
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:38,360
Speaker 2: Pause solid.

1955
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:42,400
Speaker 5: Thought he died, I ain't gonna lie. I took it

1956
01:31:42,520 --> 01:31:46,000
Speaker 5: as could because I just don't see realistically you being

1957
01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:48,120
Speaker 5: able to get that off and shoot the major and

1958
01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:50,639
Speaker 5: just and be smooth you would have been I feel

1959
01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:52,520
Speaker 5: I'm figuring you'd have been killed immediately.

1960
01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:53,040
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1961
01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:54,680
Speaker 4: I think so I think he could get away with

1962
01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:57,880
Speaker 4: it because remember they were having a conversation, conversation, but

1963
01:31:58,040 --> 01:32:01,240
Speaker 4: it was an untested theory right, and now I think

1964
01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:02,920
Speaker 4: we what conversations would have.

1965
01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:05,280
Speaker 3: I know he thought about doing it, that he could

1966
01:32:05,320 --> 01:32:08,519
Speaker 3: do it because he's the winner. He holds this level

1967
01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 3: of power, so they're not going to kill him.

1968
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:11,280
Speaker 2: I missed it.

1969
01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:15,360
Speaker 5: I missed that too, But it just seemed the way

1970
01:32:15,439 --> 01:32:18,400
Speaker 5: that the camera faded everything else out and that there

1971
01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 5: was more fireworks, there was no more people.

1972
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:23,519
Speaker 2: It made it seem like that wasn't reality. You know

1973
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:29,160
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Dead? Yeah, he was supers Yes, he

1974
01:32:31,080 --> 01:32:31,479
Speaker 2: is dead.

1975
01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:39,519
Speaker 3: Bro shocked that y'all didn't take it that way, said, yeah,

1976
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:42,839
Speaker 3: you didn't know that, you said, Man, I was confused.

1977
01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:45,000
Speaker 2: I hope when y'all can explain that you did say

1978
01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:53,439
Speaker 2: that definitively dead? Broad? He is dead? Where where right

1979
01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:56,000
Speaker 2: in heaven? Brow light?

1980
01:32:56,280 --> 01:32:56,479
Speaker 4: Yes?

1981
01:32:57,360 --> 01:33:02,559
Speaker 2: Yes it was. There was no there was no people.

1982
01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:05,439
Speaker 2: The fireworks were gone. Sound he's dead.

1983
01:33:05,560 --> 01:33:08,599
Speaker 4: Were there people behind him when he the whole crowd?

1984
01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:11,760
Speaker 4: Remember I thought the crowd was behind the crowd wasn't

1985
01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:14,520
Speaker 4: that far back? It was why he was he was surrounded.

1986
01:33:14,720 --> 01:33:14,760
Speaker 3: No.

1987
01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:17,559
Speaker 5: But but I'm saying if you go, if you kept going,

1988
01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:19,439
Speaker 5: the crowd was right there, and if you turn around

1989
01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:20,920
Speaker 5: and go the other way then that's where the soldiers

1990
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:23,000
Speaker 5: in there, and there was there was they wouldn't just

1991
01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:27,080
Speaker 5: empty space and no buildings and all kinds of none

1992
01:33:27,120 --> 01:33:27,280
Speaker 5: of that.

1993
01:33:28,280 --> 01:33:29,040
Speaker 2: It was nothing.

1994
01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:33,599
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, he is dead, Rochester stuff with his initial

1995
01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:38,439
Speaker 3: thought that dead. They shot him that and that's why

1996
01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:42,000
Speaker 3: he shot him. You heard nothing from the soldiers. You

1997
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:45,200
Speaker 3: didn't hear You heard nothing. You see him turn around

1998
01:33:45,680 --> 01:33:46,280
Speaker 3: and walk off.

1999
01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:49,960
Speaker 5: They didn't like the major either, so they were glad

2000
01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:51,800
Speaker 5: the soldier was the major was dead.

2001
01:33:51,800 --> 01:33:54,320
Speaker 1: That's not true. Why would the soldiers be upset about that?

2002
01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:56,360
Speaker 3: I think that they were making the whole point of

2003
01:33:57,240 --> 01:34:00,320
Speaker 3: this system, because when y'all said earlier, that long long

2004
01:34:00,400 --> 01:34:01,599
Speaker 3: walk is absolutely life.

2005
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:02,599
Speaker 2: It's representing life.

2006
01:34:02,640 --> 01:34:05,040
Speaker 3: And you meet all these people throughout your life, you

2007
01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:07,320
Speaker 3: have these experiences, pain, all this stuff.

2008
01:34:08,560 --> 01:34:09,679
Speaker 2: For Rod, you get the ships.

2009
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:11,599
Speaker 1: He's so concerned with people talking about the shit.

2010
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:13,000
Speaker 2: You get the ships in life.

2011
01:34:13,640 --> 01:34:16,679
Speaker 1: And at the end of the life, you you either

2012
01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:18,599
Speaker 1: make it or you break.

2013
01:34:19,240 --> 01:34:22,040
Speaker 2: And Pete broke. The system broke him.

2014
01:34:22,160 --> 01:34:26,680
Speaker 1: Even the most positive of people, the system broke him.

2015
01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:27,120
Speaker 2: He couldn't.

2016
01:34:27,479 --> 01:34:30,080
Speaker 5: He couldn't see the light in the anymore. Even even

2017
01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 5: in you could be the most nicest positive person. But

2018
01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:36,840
Speaker 5: if the way things are around you are built to

2019
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:39,960
Speaker 5: where there is no light, you can keep it so

2020
01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:41,840
Speaker 5: you can have a false sense of it all you want.

2021
01:34:42,160 --> 01:34:44,320
Speaker 5: But and that's what I that's why all this slide

2022
01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:47,200
Speaker 5: that he ended up doing what he did versus what

2023
01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 5: his initial thing was.

2024
01:34:48,360 --> 01:34:49,920
Speaker 2: Like, I just asked for two people, you know, the.

2025
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:53,360
Speaker 5: Whole positivity kick after three hundred miles, bro, you not

2026
01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:54,240
Speaker 5: positive no more?

2027
01:34:54,280 --> 01:34:56,160
Speaker 2: Like I refuse to believe or remember.

2028
01:34:56,240 --> 01:34:59,080
Speaker 4: They also told him that you that there was other

2029
01:34:59,160 --> 01:35:00,760
Speaker 4: conversations that you can ask for two people.

2030
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:01,960
Speaker 2: They're not going to break the system.

2031
01:35:02,120 --> 01:35:04,160
Speaker 4: They said, oh yeah, you can't ask for policy and

2032
01:35:04,200 --> 01:35:06,280
Speaker 4: procedure changes exactly.

2033
01:35:06,439 --> 01:35:12,760
Speaker 2: To help who already Spanish let me be Pete. I

2034
01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:18,519
Speaker 2: don't would. They focused on Pete seeing the light. This

2035
01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:21,000
Speaker 2: is why I just googled it's he been split on line.

2036
01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:27,559
Speaker 2: He's dead. It would have been to if.

2037
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:30,600
Speaker 3: If you're talking about him seeing the light when he

2038
01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:34,000
Speaker 3: turns around, one of y'all just said there was no light. Yes,

2039
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:37,479
Speaker 3: at that moment, Pete stopped seeing the light. He gave

2040
01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:42,440
Speaker 3: in to anger revenge and he killed him. There's no fireworks,

2041
01:35:42,439 --> 01:35:44,439
Speaker 3: which would have been the light there was not even

2042
01:35:44,520 --> 01:35:47,479
Speaker 3: light from the trucks anymore. He didn't see the light anymore.

2043
01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:50,920
Speaker 2: He died. I got it.

2044
01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:56,920
Speaker 4: But let's okay. So Spike be with me, all right.

2045
01:35:57,000 --> 01:36:01,880
Speaker 4: So he's still alive, but he doesn't see the light.

2046
01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:06,320
Speaker 4: He's he's cool to the system. But he's still alive.

2047
01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:09,519
Speaker 4: It's just his vision is is his light is gone.

2048
01:36:10,240 --> 01:36:13,200
Speaker 4: So he turned around exactly, so he saw the darkness.

2049
01:36:13,479 --> 01:36:13,800
Speaker 2: So the.

2050
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:18,799
Speaker 4: Hope and positivity that he once had is no longer present.

2051
01:36:19,120 --> 01:36:21,479
Speaker 4: He's just still alive to live in that.

2052
01:36:22,040 --> 01:36:28,320
Speaker 2: From the gunshot and work. But that's a possibility to write. Yo. Yeah,

2053
01:36:30,920 --> 01:36:31,519
Speaker 2: that's all right, But.

2054
01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:34,519
Speaker 5: I'm not mad at it.

2055
01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:39,040
Speaker 2: It's definitely left up for interpretation, which I did. I

2056
01:36:39,080 --> 01:36:41,840
Speaker 2: appreciate it. And it's a different ending from the book. Yeah,

2057
01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:44,519
Speaker 2: there were very few things. I know.

2058
01:36:44,720 --> 01:36:48,800
Speaker 3: I wasn't gonna say that, but that was definitely something

2059
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:50,680
Speaker 3: that I saw that was. Yeah, it was different from

2060
01:36:50,680 --> 01:36:52,599
Speaker 3: the book. I think this ending actually is a lot

2061
01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:56,800
Speaker 3: better than what the book. But all right, man, I

2062
01:36:56,920 --> 01:36:59,120
Speaker 3: think that this was a perfect ending.

2063
01:36:59,560 --> 01:37:00,599
Speaker 2: And I was with Rod.

2064
01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:03,720
Speaker 3: I'm like, don't, don't, don't, don't don't kill this black man, right,

2065
01:37:03,960 --> 01:37:05,600
Speaker 3: don't kill this black man. So I think it was

2066
01:37:05,840 --> 01:37:10,080
Speaker 3: very smart for them to imply that he's dead without

2067
01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:12,920
Speaker 3: us having to see you. The last question I'm gonna

2068
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:15,840
Speaker 3: ask you, Ken Sinid you think this man is live realistically?

2069
01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:21,680
Speaker 3: No matter how rich this man is, when is the

2070
01:37:21,880 --> 01:37:24,720
Speaker 3: last time you've heard of a white government letting a

2071
01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:28,799
Speaker 3: black man live after shooting the leader of the white government.

2072
01:37:29,360 --> 01:37:33,000
Speaker 2: Would that be a realistic ass movie? Well, it is fantasy.

2073
01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:38,080
Speaker 4: Fantasy might to the point where there was a white

2074
01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:40,560
Speaker 4: guy that got up in the theater and left.

2075
01:37:43,240 --> 01:37:43,880
Speaker 2: At the end.

2076
01:37:45,760 --> 01:37:49,160
Speaker 4: Before like when when Ray got shot and the black

2077
01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:50,960
Speaker 4: guy won. This motherfucker got.

2078
01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:54,400
Speaker 2: Up left a long walk.

2079
01:37:54,800 --> 01:37:57,960
Speaker 4: Now, to be fair, I don't know if he was

2080
01:37:58,040 --> 01:37:59,800
Speaker 4: annoyed with the girls that were talking, but by then

2081
01:37:59,840 --> 01:38:01,519
Speaker 4: they quiet, so I don't know if he was just

2082
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:04,040
Speaker 4: fan up or he was just like, hell, no, you're

2083
01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:08,240
Speaker 4: not letting the black person when someone walked down down man.

2084
01:38:08,280 --> 01:38:09,000
Speaker 2: But he got up and.

2085
01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:10,680
Speaker 4: Left, so I was like, oh, he liked this. He

2086
01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:12,920
Speaker 4: ain't like the fact that this black guys I'm winning

2087
01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:16,880
Speaker 4: all his bundy. So to your question, Mike, no, that's

2088
01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:22,120
Speaker 4: ship will not happen. But but yeah, but he's also

2089
01:38:22,360 --> 01:38:22,960
Speaker 4: very realistic.

2090
01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:23,400
Speaker 2: If you want.

2091
01:38:23,439 --> 01:38:26,320
Speaker 1: If you follow him on Twitter, he he knows what's up.

2092
01:38:26,560 --> 01:38:31,439
Speaker 2: He got us. He got the trouble last week for

2093
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:32,280
Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk.

2094
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:40,880
Speaker 3: Stephen Stephen, he definitely knows. This system is not gonna

2095
01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:45,080
Speaker 3: let no black man win all that money and kill

2096
01:38:45,120 --> 01:38:47,519
Speaker 3: a major and just walk away Scott Free.

2097
01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:48,760
Speaker 2: Ain't no fucking way.

2098
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:50,479
Speaker 5: Did they ever specify the amount of money?

2099
01:38:51,080 --> 01:38:54,280
Speaker 2: Okay, life changing? I don't think said life changing.

2100
01:38:55,560 --> 01:38:57,760
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, I gotta be specific, right.

2101
01:38:57,760 --> 01:38:58,840
Speaker 2: I need to know what that means.

2102
01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:04,599
Speaker 1: Figures, anybody else got any any last lost thoughts?

2103
01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:07,200
Speaker 7: I mean, I was surprised that they showed a black

2104
01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:09,800
Speaker 7: man killing a white major. I was surprised that they

2105
01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:11,679
Speaker 7: actually did that in the movie.

2106
01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:15,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he wasn't black in the book. Apparently interesting. Yeah,

2107
01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:19,920
Speaker 2: I liked it this movie that even we talked about

2108
01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:21,639
Speaker 2: it like even more so. Yeah.

2109
01:39:22,160 --> 01:39:23,880
Speaker 5: I think that I think the parallels to the life

2110
01:39:23,960 --> 01:39:25,439
Speaker 5: are there. But I also think the parallels to the

2111
01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:27,519
Speaker 5: rat race are there too, in terms of darking. And

2112
01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:30,200
Speaker 5: even my man got sick but still had to wall

2113
01:39:30,280 --> 01:39:32,960
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, pt O ship or whatever

2114
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:36,280
Speaker 5: it was, It was a lot of rat race in

2115
01:39:36,360 --> 01:39:38,880
Speaker 5: the pursuit of money. Like I look at it from

2116
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:41,960
Speaker 5: like anybody that's made a certain amount of money, like

2117
01:39:42,120 --> 01:39:44,200
Speaker 5: life changing money. Like if if you look at people

2118
01:39:44,200 --> 01:39:46,760
Speaker 5: who are billionaires, there's people that see that and think

2119
01:39:47,200 --> 01:39:49,680
Speaker 5: you had to step on hell of motherfuckers to get

2120
01:39:49,720 --> 01:39:52,000
Speaker 5: to that point. And so this is kind of like

2121
01:39:52,720 --> 01:39:54,280
Speaker 5: a little there's a little bit of that in there too,

2122
01:39:54,479 --> 01:39:56,960
Speaker 5: like to get the life changing money, which we would

2123
01:39:56,960 --> 01:39:59,800
Speaker 5: probably all considered like on some Bill Gates ship or whatever.

2124
01:40:00,479 --> 01:40:02,400
Speaker 5: He probably knows where the bodies is buried. He probably

2125
01:40:02,439 --> 01:40:04,960
Speaker 5: has seen some ship that we ain't seen, and so

2126
01:40:05,120 --> 01:40:09,240
Speaker 5: this kind of I looked at that. It's like they say,

2127
01:40:09,280 --> 01:40:11,799
Speaker 5: it ain't no good billions exactly.

2128
01:40:11,960 --> 01:40:14,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good.

2129
01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:19,519
Speaker 3: That's all a reference to capitalism and life, because you

2130
01:40:19,640 --> 01:40:23,559
Speaker 3: can't win capitalism. You just can't, especially if you think

2131
01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:25,840
Speaker 3: you're gonna win without a whole bunch of dead people behind.

2132
01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:28,840
Speaker 2: Definitely not almost like a zero some game.

2133
01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:31,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I took that it was a fire move.

2134
01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:38,720
Speaker 2: Cool. All right, Finally I want to know your top three, but.

2135
01:40:42,479 --> 01:40:45,760
Speaker 3: That might be another conversation, might have to okay, but yeah,

2136
01:40:46,520 --> 01:40:48,880
Speaker 3: we're gonna end it here. Thank y'all for sticking with us.

2137
01:40:49,680 --> 01:40:52,439
Speaker 3: Blame these Negroes for making the sea so long and

2138
01:40:52,920 --> 01:40:55,320
Speaker 3: no pause, and uh yeah, we will see.

2139
01:40:55,200 --> 01:40:57,040
Speaker 2: Y'all next time. Pro homo.

2140
01:40:57,800 --> 01:40:59,960
Speaker 1: Uh we'll see y'all next time. Y'all have a good

2141
01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:01,280
Speaker 1: one piece pasy