1 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Jason Hammer, one half of The Hammer and Nigel Show, 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: joins us. Now Hammer, Hello, it's. 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: Not quite Festivus yet. But to quote George Costanza's father, 4 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 2: I got a lot of problems with you people. Now 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 2: you're gonna hear about it. 6 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: Great. 7 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 2: So I am one of the few, at least on 8 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 2: your program here that was all right with the idea 9 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 2: of redistricting. Was it the greatest thing since sliced bread? 10 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: No? 11 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 2: Was my life going to change substantially? No? And to 12 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 2: your credit, Rob, I wish we saw this level of 13 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 2: gusto when it came to property taxes. All of that's true. 14 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 2: But I live in Marion County, Okay. I'm an Indianapolis guy. 15 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: My rep at a national level is Andre Carson. So 16 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 2: if I get the opportunity to fire that clown, and 17 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 2: I get what you're saying, you're just gonna get replaced 18 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: by a Jefferson Shreve. You're probably right, because that guy 19 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 2: much like he's a real zero. But I feel like 20 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: you have to at least try because I've seen the 21 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 2: Andre Carson movie and it sucks. It's horrible. So if 22 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 2: given the opportunity to replace Andre Carson or that dor 23 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 2: Cup North Frank Mervan, I'm okay with it. It's not 24 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 2: the end of the world for me. Like, it's not 25 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,559 Speaker 2: a hill that I'm willing to die on, per se. 26 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: But I'll be all right if Andre Carson got bounced 27 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: out and asked for you, Casey. So you opened up 28 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: the show to that being real smug about this. Like 29 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: we were talking, you guys were talking about Senate pro 30 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 2: Temp Rod Bray, and you were kind of laughing at 31 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 2: how some people might call him a rhino. I'm some people, right, 32 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: and you seem very smug about that. Oh that's how 33 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 2: it came off. Sorry, because let me go down a 34 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: laundry list of reasons why people like myself had a 35 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: problem with that. And number one, this is the same 36 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: dude who screwed you on your property. To Bill, it's 37 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: not Braun, it's not Beckwith. They had a hand in it. 38 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 2: But this is the guy, right, This was your show's 39 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: signature deal. There was an amazing rally. You got people 40 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 2: to show up, people who don't normally do this type 41 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 2: of thing, and it was loud and it was rowdy, 42 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: and you know what Rod Bray did. He had a 43 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 2: mariachi band and he was pissed off people were wearing green, 44 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 2: and he did not come by to give you. Guys, 45 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: he tells his people not to wear green. He came 46 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: on Saint Patrick's then, and he came by. I'm sorry 47 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 2: he did not come by to give you one ounce 48 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 2: of his time. So that's what he thinks of you. Like, 49 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 2: if I were you, two, I'd be more pissed off 50 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 2: at him than anybody. Okay, so that's one number two. 51 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 2: He was against constitutional carry for so long. The only 52 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: reason that butt sniffer changed his mind was because allegedly 53 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 2: the NRA broke off a phone call and said to 54 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: be a shame if the funding stopped. And then all 55 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 2: of a sudden, Holy Lord, he saw the light. It's 56 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 2: funny how that works out. It's almost like that guy 57 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: in his elite team of butt sniffers around him only 58 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 2: care about money. There's that. And then also, when given 59 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: the opportunity to fight back and fire Andre Carson and 60 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 2: fire Frank Mervan, he's sat in the corner and did nothing. 61 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 2: And I get it. If it were Jefferson Shreeve, he'd 62 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 2: probably do the same thing. Some of these Republicans are zeros, 63 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 2: but don't get smug and people acting like this dude 64 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 2: is a rhino because he's been against three of the 65 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 2: biggest things that I care about in the last five years. 66 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 2: So you're saying he is a rhino, he needs to 67 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 2: be primary. Well, it's three years, right, I made it's 68 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 2: three years down the road. But some of us were 69 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 2: hating this clown before it was cool. 70 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: People got so like humors just out these days. Remember 71 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: in Missus Doubtfire where he goes through all the voices 72 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: when he goes to meet with the lady at the 73 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: employment place and he does all the voices and she 74 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: just looks at him and goes, do you consider yourself 75 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: to be funny? 76 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: Like I posted that photo. I changed my profile picture 77 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 2: to Rod Braid. 78 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: By the way, people are freaking out because every time 79 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: I comment on somebody's post, they think it's Rod Bray 80 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: bringing the smoke. 81 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: I'm just being funnier. 82 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: And people are you've you've sold out, you're a you're 83 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: a you're a whatever, a boot liquor or whatever the 84 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: name was, Like it's funny, it's humorous, Like nothing's funny anymore. 85 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: I'm sorry for trying, like just it's all I'm with you. 86 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: Rod Bray is awful, Right, I don't dispute that he's 87 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: totally fact. 88 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 2: That he is in this position of power, Like he's 89 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: the captain now and he's been the captain, right, doesn't 90 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: matter who the governor was. He's calling the balls and 91 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 2: strikes here. The fact that we as a state have 92 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 2: allowed this just Needle Wiener to become the guy that 93 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,679 Speaker 2: maybe that's an US problem. Maybe that's a voting problem. 94 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 2: So do you think that they should go and meet 95 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 2: and vote anyway he's saying they don't have the votes, Like, 96 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 2: on one hand, don't waste the money if you don't 97 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 2: have it. But I would like to see on record, 98 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: on the record, just curiosity, because I don't believe these 99 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: poles that say it was overwhelmingly unpopular, every one of them, 100 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 2: they're all in the tank, just like just like Ka 101 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 2: Mama was supposed to be right there neck and neck 102 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 2: with Trump, every one of us. 103 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: Well, statistically where the country it was like what a 104 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: percentage point separated? I mean it was neck and neck, 105 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: let's see, Okay, Like so that's what I'm saying. Maybe 106 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: it is, maybe it isn't, but I'm not buying for 107 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: a minute that like it looks like Satan bad. 108 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 2: You know, Satan good. I don't think it's that way 109 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 2: at all. I think it's closer than you guys think. 110 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: Okay, but Braun does the horrible and all this that 111 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: he folded on property taxes, and he's like moving heaven 112 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: and earth to try to get this thing through. 113 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 2: Scheduled to join us tomorrow at five oh six oh 114 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: in studio or day, so we'll see what happens. 115 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: Uh. 116 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 2: He was scheduled to join us before all of this 117 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 2: went through. He's never canceled an appearance on our show. 118 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: So we look forward to having the Governor in here tomorrow. 119 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 1: Uh. 120 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 2: The invite still stands, hopefully. Uh, we'll have some thoughts 121 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 2: on all of this stuff going on here. 122 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: If I slide a paper over to you with a 123 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: few thoughts on them, when you pass them along to him. 124 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 2: I will do that. How the last time we had 125 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 2: the Lieutenant Governor on, I played your question, did I not? 126 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna write a memo. I think 127 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: that's what I'll do. If I write a memo, will 128 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: you pass it along? Oh? 129 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's what everybody loves reading long, long long 130 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 2: things on social media. 131 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: He's a sharp it'll be great like a Limitarian and 132 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: you're coming out, it'll be great like when I did 133 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: the dog thing. 134 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: Remember he loved that. 135 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,119 Speaker 1: He said he put it on his fridge or something, 136 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: didn't he people love. 137 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 2: Reading long, long, long, long long. 138 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: Put a sticker on it like I did the last one. 139 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 2: What's coming up today, we'll continue this conversation. We're going 140 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,119 Speaker 2: to get a decision from the prosecutor in that Westfield 141 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: Whitetown shooting. Whatever it is, Guy Ralford scheduled to join us. 142 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 2: Thanks Hammer. It is Kendally Casey. It's ninety three WIBC.