1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: So they're identical twins, they're prominent political figures in Central Indiana, 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: and they're exact opposites politically. Let's make some sense of 3 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: all of that. It's Kennell and Casey Show. I'm Rob 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: joined in studio by Nick and Nathan robertson. This is 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: a fascinating story. I'm looking at both of you, guys. 6 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: I'm totally confused at who's who. 7 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 2: Nick. I'll start with you. 8 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: You are a member, a Democrat member of the Indianapolis 9 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: City County Council at twenty five years old, which is amazing. 10 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: I don't even think I can remember where I was 11 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: at twenty five years old. But you are a staunch believer. 12 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: You are a loyal Democrat of the Indianapolis City County Council. 13 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 2: More or less. 14 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 3: There are things I disagree with, but I'm a Democrat. 15 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 16 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 1: And then I'm gonna turn my right here and I'm 17 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: looking at the same guy, only it's a different guy, 18 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: Nathan Roberts who is the most loyal, hardcore Trump supporter imaginable. 19 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: And you have started your own nonprofit devoted to mass 20 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: getting rid of massive legal immigration in the United States. 21 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: Save Heritage Indiana. 22 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 3: Absolutely you will not see me make any bones about it. 23 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,839 Speaker 3: I'm a loyal, die hired Republican one hundred percent. 24 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: This is the most fascinating Storry, and you guys have 25 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: been getting so much publicity about this. By the way, 26 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: have you guys ever pretended to be the other one? 27 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,199 Speaker 1: Isn't that an identical twins thing? 28 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 3: Like? 29 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 2: Have you ever Nick? Have you ever pretended to be 30 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: Nathan or Nathan Nick? Just to like your parents? Surely 31 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 2: have never fallen for that, right. 32 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,559 Speaker 3: They never fall for that. We had an old grandfather 33 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 3: who would get us mixed up, but outside of that, 34 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 3: everybody's been able to tell us apart. I always wanted 35 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 3: to switch up in school, but Nick such a rule 36 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 3: follower because he's a Democrat, and he would say that 37 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 3: would get us in trouble, so he never let us switch, 38 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 3: even though I wanted to. 39 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: Okay, So this is fascinating me because you guys, like 40 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: I said, you're identical twins. Twenty five years old, you're 41 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: both now prominent people in the Indianapolis political scene, both 42 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: with your time on the council, Nick and Nathan with 43 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: your Save Heritage Indiana and the attention that that's getting. 44 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: When did you guys like, when did you figure out 45 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: we see the world so differently? 46 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 2: Nick? And I've got it. 47 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 4: I don't like who you are now, because no, I 48 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 4: do you sound the same? You look the same, Nick? 49 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 3: Go ahead, Yeah, So I think we really realized in 50 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 3: high school. But even dating back to middle school. There 51 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 3: was a project though I did recently and I was 52 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 3: looking back at it and I read that I called 53 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 3: myself the Democrat. 54 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 4: That sounds like a long time ago, but when we were 55 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 4: as young as you guys, like ten years ago, well, twelve. 56 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 3: Thirteen years ago, twelve thirteen years ago, and he called 57 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 3: himself the Republican twin. But really I would say it 58 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 3: was twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen. At the time. We were 59 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 3: both turning into political junkies. We were reading and watching 60 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 3: the news NonStop, and I remember, you know, Trump going 61 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 3: down the Gold Escalators and I remember thinking, man, this 62 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 3: guy is such an idiot. Whoever over this guy? And 63 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 3: my brother was like, he'd be the best president ever. 64 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 3: What are you talking about? 65 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 2: Our savior? 66 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 3: He'd be our savior. And from there it just naturally evolved. 67 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 3: And that's been over a decade since then, right, and 68 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 3: really nothing as much has changed you know, I've always 69 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 3: been more democratic, he's been more Republican, and yeah, it's 70 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 3: really been since then. I remember Republican, but I'll say 71 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 3: I'm not an air Clcombe Republican. 72 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're a good person. 73 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 3: Twenty twenty one outside the Governor's mansion. It was April 74 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 3: twenty twenty. I was one of like forty people who 75 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 3: were the Petri dish by the youngest person of human 76 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 3: was at the anti COVID lockdown rally. I had a 77 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 3: signed which said I want a haircut, and Nick took 78 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 3: a picture of it and posted it and it was 79 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 3: super viral. But I was at that one, and I 80 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 3: was at the twenty twenty one rally at the State 81 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 3: House because almost got fired from my job for not 82 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 3: getting the vaccine. 83 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: Okay, so do you guys when you were when you 84 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: were figuring out where you're at on the spectrum, did 85 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: you guys have conversations about this? I mean, brothers hates 86 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: each other, tease each other. But it's so bizarre of 87 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: two kids who come in the same household at such 88 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: a young age to have different views, Like how. 89 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: Did you work through this? We've you're Nathan by the way, 90 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 2: she pointed out out. 91 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 3: The noises are probably hard to tell apart for the 92 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 3: resial on the radio. No, we've honestly never ever, ever, 93 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 3: I don't think I had a heat of discussion about politics. 94 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 3: We talked about politics all the time too, Never, we've 95 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 3: never I don't think we've ever had like a thing 96 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 3: where it's like, no, this is like you need to change. 97 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 3: I don't think we've ever had that. Because we both 98 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 3: respect each other and he's a smart Democrat. Shockingly they exist. 99 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 3: I think I'm a smart Republican. 100 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: It's like you're one of the ones who wanted to 101 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: pull the plug on hog set, right, Like you're that 102 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: kind of democrat. 103 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there are times you have to have 104 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 3: you have to push back, but I would go all 105 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 3: the way on that. Okay, So I'm definitely more of 106 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 3: a moderate Democrat. 107 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: What did what did your did your parents like intervene 108 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: in this? 109 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 2: Were they taking sides? Like? 110 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: What was it like for you guys as you're hitting 111 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: your teenage years? And again, it's like not even that 112 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: brothers have different political opinions, it's you're twins. 113 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 2: Like it's like looking at the. 114 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 4: Same person who's just saying remarkably different things. 115 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 3: Well, I think our family is a good microcosm of 116 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 3: everything because really, and my brother probably agrees this, we 117 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 3: have everything in our families. 118 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 2: By the way, this is Nick talking. 119 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 3: We have progressive Democrats, modern Democrats, and never Trump Republicans, 120 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 3: conservative Republicans, mag Republicans, like, we have everything just to 121 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 3: our immediate family. 122 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 5: Right. 123 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 3: So I think from the time we were young, we 124 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 3: don't not come we do not come from a political 125 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 3: family necessarily being in politics. But everyone is interesting politics, 126 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 3: which I think there was always interesting dialogue at the 127 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 3: kitchen table for dinner, which I think lends well to 128 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 3: having disagreements and respect. Right, I think it was a 129 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 3: lot of it for us. I wouldn't say our family intervened. 130 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 3: There are times where my grandparents like, you need to 131 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 3: we have an intervention with Nate. Nate's gone off the 132 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 3: deep end. But I'm sure the other Republicans in my 133 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 3: family have said the same about me. 134 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 2: So I was thinking, like, your thing this kind of 135 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: disappointing is. 136 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: I was thinking, like, your Thanksgivings and your Christmas are 137 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: gonna be wild, like people throwing things at each other. 138 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 3: Was the comment. We always get on everything. Every CNN 139 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 3: art was like that Thanksgiving dinner must be crazy. Politics 140 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 3: was not brought up at Thanksgiving one single time. 141 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: Wild because like at my at at my everything that 142 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: I go to, and my wife has a big family, 143 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: everybody just wants to talk about politics, and they're always like, 144 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: I know, this is the last thing you want to 145 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: talk about, and then they proceed to make me talk 146 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: about it for the entire time. But you're saying with you, guys, 147 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: like even though this is your world now, really it doesn't. 148 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 2: It doesn't come up that much. 149 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 3: I think part of it is the fact that we 150 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 3: know that if we enter Thanksgiving, theirs all kinds of beliefs, right, 151 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 3: and like I'll give an example, my great grandmother. She's 152 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 3: the sweetest human alive. She is very much Republican, right, 153 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 3: and I just want to bring it up out of 154 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 3: respect for her. I don't want to ruin the vibe 155 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 3: completely and make it so awkward every dinner, right, Like 156 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 3: you want to have respect. I think when you know 157 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 3: people are going to disagree, it's a lot harder to 158 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 3: always bring it up and be the perse threat interject 159 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 3: politics and everything. But also I'll say I don't bring 160 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 3: up politics anymore. I've warned that lesson. But when I 161 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 3: was fifteen and sixteen, I was the number one person. 162 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 3: I would not be a politics I'd bring up the 163 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 3: most controversial stuff to try to get the juices of 164 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 3: the room. 165 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 2: Gaes see, he was me. 166 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 4: I was that way when I was And then you'll 167 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 4: you'll phase out of that and realize it just gets 168 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,799 Speaker 4: you heartache and the reward for it. Nick and Nathan 169 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 4: Roberts are our guests. They're identical twins. Nick is a 170 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 4: member of the Indianapolis City County Council. He's Democrat. Nathan 171 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 4: has started a very now prominent group Save Heritage Indiana, 172 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 4: devoted to getting rid of illegal immigration in our state 173 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 4: and across the country. And I like, national, is it 174 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 4: weird to you guys that people are so interested in this? 175 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 4: I mean, you get it right, Like this is like 176 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 4: it's like going to the something you see at the circus, right, 177 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 4: see see the same guy with two different opinions. I mean, 178 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 4: national publications have picked up on this story. 179 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 2: It's very weird. 180 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 3: I mean, just tomorrow that Washington pos is coming here 181 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 3: and call us around for the day. It's gonna be 182 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 3: a day in the life. Like, yeah, that's crazy, Like 183 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 3: we're not that important. I've been on Newsmax four times now. 184 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 4: And he's already passed me at twenty five, right. 185 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 3: But I think it's surreal, obviously just for our entire lives, 186 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 3: that it's now national. This has been what we've dealt with, 187 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 3: Like everyone's always thought it was funny, but now that 188 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 3: we're both doing our own thing and right parties, it's 189 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 3: obviously more of a story. I think part of it 190 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 3: is I've not seen how we were looking at it. 191 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 3: I've never seen We've done research identical twins being involved 192 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 3: politics and different parties. It's the first time it's ever 193 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 3: happened as far as I know. There's a novelty to 194 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 3: it that's fascinating, Like the people are so interested. 195 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 4: Nathan did when Nick was elected, did you help him? 196 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: You know? Unfortunately you vote for him? 197 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 3: Okay, So he called in a favor. He was like, 198 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 3: please not campaign. He tried to get me to campaign. 199 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 3: I'm like, no, I'm not doing that. 200 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 2: He tried. 201 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 3: He got me to stand outside the voter's place and 202 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 3: then kind of be like, oh, vote for Nick Roberts 203 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 3: and you know what, he said, this might get him 204 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 3: in trouble. But he was like don't say you're me. 205 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 3: But if people happened to think that you're me, are 206 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 3: meeting you just just like go along, just go along 207 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 3: with it. 208 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'd be like. 209 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, vote for Nick Roberts. And I did vote for him. 210 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: I'll just leave it. I voted for him. 211 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 3: It's the only Democratic I think I've ever voted for 212 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 3: my life. 213 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 2: But I did vote for him. 214 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 1: Okay, So at twenty five being a member of the 215 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: Indianapoli City County Council because I was. I was twenty 216 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: seven when I was elected, and I thought I was 217 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: is like the coolest thing ever. 218 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 3: And you're how old were you when you got elect 219 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 3: I was twenty three. Yeah, I started running at twenty one. 220 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 2: How do you even pull that off? 221 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 3: Like door knocking raising money? 222 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 2: People look at you and go get off my property, 223 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 2: Like what are you? 224 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 3: What are you selling? 225 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? 226 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: Like the son, like what I mean, that's pretty amazing 227 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: at twenty one years old to be able to pull 228 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 1: up Like how did you do that? 229 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? 230 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, just it's a cliche of working hard, 231 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 3: door knocking raising money. That's what all it took, right, 232 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 3: you know, I think that's some I look younger than 233 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 3: I am too, So I had that additional I still. 234 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: Ca When I first saw you, I was like, we 235 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: have a twelve year old on the city county council. 236 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 2: That's that's amazing. 237 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 1: No, I mean, I just think that's incredible that you 238 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: were willing to do that, and you presented yourself in 239 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 1: a way that people take took you seriously. 240 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 3: It was intentional. It was very intentional, right, Like, I 241 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 3: did not lean into kind of the kookie stuff like this. 242 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 3: I would not have made this story two years. 243 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 2: He's pointing at his brother, by the way. 244 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, but now, but now that I'm already in office, 245 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 3: I can kind of be a little bit more fun 246 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 3: with things. And also too, we had the benefit We've 247 00:09:58,120 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 3: lived in our entire lives in the district that I 248 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 3: ran in, right, so I had that kind of home 249 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 3: talent advantage being able to really campaign and hit the 250 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 3: payment hard. But yeah, it's been great, Honestly, two yourself 251 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 3: they excelling himself short. He was one of the biggest 252 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 3: overperformers for a Democrat on the city council. 253 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 5: He was. 254 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 3: And you know, I'm lucky because every single Republican I 255 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 3: talked to nine They're like, I hate the Democrats whatever, 256 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 3: But your brother is one of the good. Yes, every 257 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 3: single person says that, and I don't know. I doubt 258 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 3: he says gets that about me. I do not, but 259 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 3: I do, which shows you a little bit of how 260 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 3: Republicans actors Democrats. Republicans are always like, oh, you know, 261 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 3: your brother's nice, and the Democrats like, your brother's a fascist. 262 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: So tell me about Save Heritage Indiana. Because one of 263 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: the reasons this made news is your group. 264 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 4: You know, I mean, you put this out there right, 265 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 4: It's not just sort of I'm a Republican. You've taken 266 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 4: a very strong position on illegal immigration. Tell us about 267 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 4: Save Heritage Indiana. 268 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, we supported immigration moratorium, immigration pause thirty years, no 269 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 3: doubt about it. 270 00:10:58,800 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 2: It with me and my friend. 271 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 3: His name is Daniel Pointers, my co founder. He ran 272 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 3: a separate nonprofit group in the past. But we realized 273 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 3: there's groups for everything at the state House, dogs cats, healthcare, 274 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 3: pro development, anti development, anti abortion, pro abortion, but there's 275 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 3: nothing against the illegal immigration. In fact, there's one hundred 276 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 3: full time employees for groups like Exodus Refugee in the 277 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 3: Indian Latina Institute that work in the opposite direction. And 278 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 3: Indiana is a deep red state, and all it takes 279 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 3: is one Democratic president to get back in and simply 280 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 3: not enforce the laws anymore. And it's like states are 281 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 3: totally helpless to have like common sense immigration laws. So 282 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 3: we think there's a huge opening. There was a survey 283 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 3: done at America Fest, which is like the TPUSA event 284 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 3: they just did in Arizona, of young conservatives. An eighty 285 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 3: nine point five percent of the attendee said they support 286 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 3: immigration moratorium wholesale. 287 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 2: This is fat, Like I still just like I keep 288 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 2: turning back and forth. 289 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 4: I wish people could see this right now, because it's 290 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 4: just like you're looking at the same person now you are. 291 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 2: There is just enough difference right. 292 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: Where some twins are so identical that there's no way 293 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: to tell him about like there's a birthmark or something. 294 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 2: You guys are a little bit different out you. 295 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 3: Know us like almost never, yeah, you get us mixed 296 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 3: up unless they're like old basically, but anyone under the 297 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 3: age of seventy like never ever ever gets his mixed 298 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 3: And it helps telling us how we're seeing, how we're 299 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 3: dressed compared to each other. 300 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, my. 301 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 3: Father's pretending like he lives in rural in the Lumberjacks. Yeah, Jack, Yeah, man, 302 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 3: I love this story. I think you guys, I think 303 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:26,359 Speaker 3: it's great for dialogue. 304 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 4: I think it's great that you guys can show that 305 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 4: you can still love each other even with different political beliefs. 306 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 4: And I just think this is such a cool story. 307 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 4: And then so thanks for coming in. It's been in 308 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 4: a few moments with us Sharon being identical twins with 309 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 4: polar opposite political views. 310 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 2: Thanks guys. Thanks. Yeah, It's Kennelly Casey Show ninety three WIBC. Okay, 311 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 2: I was just talking with Ethan. By the way, it's 312 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 2: Kenel Casey Show. 313 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: I'm Rob Casey up to Ethan Hatcher and tomorrow we're 314 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: gonna have a very interesting program. Our friend of the show, 315 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: doctor Scott Strong. 316 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 4: He's a college professor and he's a numbers whiz and 317 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 4: he did the math. He did a little piece on 318 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 4: this on social media, and I'm gonna have a committee 319 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 4: a deep dive on it. So you know, the penny's 320 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 4: going away, right, they're getting rid of the penny and 321 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 4: the whole segment on that on the First Day show 322 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 4: with Terry Stacy that's talked about the model penny. 323 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: I heard this, yes, and so as the penny goes 324 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 1: away is phased out of society, more and more corporations 325 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: are going to have to make the choice nder round 326 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: up or to round down. And Scott Strong did a model. 327 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: He modeled how much this could potentially cost you and 328 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: how much it could make these corporations if they go 329 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: a certain way on the rounding. And so he's gonna 330 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: be with us tomorrow to talk about the death of 331 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: the penny and how much this could end up costing you. 332 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 4: But okay, there's two things that would strike me that 333 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 4: that's going to that's going to mitigate that. 334 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 2: First of all, if you do non. 335 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 4: Cash transaction, if you do a digital transaction action, then 336 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 4: you can just pay the exact amount without that, yeah. 337 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 2: We're talking about. Yeah, that's all. 338 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 4: But then also if you are paying with cash and 339 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 4: you have to do the rounding up and the rounding down, 340 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 4: then it seems like that would break roughly even depending 341 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 4: on where the the Look. 342 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna spoil it for everybody, That's what I'm saying. 343 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna give it away today. Tomorrow's gonna be fascinating. 344 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: He's gonna he's good. And then look, this guy's college 345 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: college professor. He's a numbers guy. He's very unbiased on this, 346 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: and he did the it's gonna be fasting. So I 347 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: just want to preview to everybody. Maybe you're gonna be 348 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: here tomorrow. That's what I was gonna ask. Am I 349 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: going to be? I don't neither do I. Yeah, they 350 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: just tell us that. They just tell us like three 351 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: hours before. Okay, So Tom Homan was was on the 352 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: Fox News and he's talking about what's going on in 353 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: Minnesota with these with these federal agents being there cleaning 354 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: up illegal immigration. Of course, the left is losing their 355 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: mind over it. They're screaming, they're crying. 356 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 4: And he said, this is great, Ethan, this is on you. 357 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 4: He said, the Democrats better get some counseling because they're 358 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 4: taking the same approach across America and. 359 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 6: They need to be concerned with Tim Wall says, he's 360 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 6: not going anywhere, Well either of mine, either's President Trump, 361 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 6: either's Pam Bindy, either's Christian Nome. So we're there because 362 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 6: of the Priority census, right, but that show is going 363 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 6: on the road. So if the Democrats are having a 364 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 6: fit now, you better get counseling because it's about to 365 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 6: get a hell of a lot bigger throughout this nation. 366 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 6: That show is going on the road. I actually think 367 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 6: Minneapolis is the tip of the iceberg. I think we're 368 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 6: going to find a hell a lot more in Illinois, 369 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 6: New York, California. We'll see, but this operation will go nationwide. 370 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 6: We're going to keep our promise. And because President Trump 371 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 6: is sitting in the Oval Office, every American put their 372 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 6: head on the pillow tonight knowing that borbitales on that border, 373 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 6: stopping all threats coming across the most secure border history 374 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 6: of this nation. ICE agents and FBI agents are working 375 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 6: twenty four seven, three sixty five every hour of every day, 376 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 6: taking public safety threats and national security throughout top of 377 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 6: our streets. Sleep well, America because we're keeping America safer. 378 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 6: So we're doing exactly Minnesota. We're going to do nationwide, 379 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 6: which you and I talked about. We're keeping President Trump's 380 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 6: promised to American people to make this country safe again, 381 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 6: one city at a time, one criminal alien at a time. 382 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 2: Okay. 383 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 4: I think you can have issues with a lot of 384 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 4: the things Trump has done domestically, spending the crony capitalism 385 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 4: that's in the big bullcrap Bill. I think a lot 386 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 4: of that, not get not addressing the affordability issue. 387 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: I think a lot of that's her game. But I 388 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: think Ethan, it is indisputable that Donald Trump has done 389 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: everything in his power to hold to his promises that 390 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: he made in the most recent campaign about getting rid 391 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: of illegal immigration, the people coming here and the people 392 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: in this country. I think he's doing everything in his 393 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: power to hold to that promise. 394 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 395 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 4: He's done a bang up job when it comes to 396 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 4: the border, and he put the perfect person in charge 397 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 4: of that in the form of Tom Holman, who is 398 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 4: the most no nonsense broker and border enforcement authority that 399 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 4: we've had in the federal government for a long time. 400 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 4: And that's going back even to the Bush administration, because 401 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 4: he started getting with a waffle on the border back 402 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 4: then too. Yeah, all right, real quick, I wanted to 403 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 4: play this so Hakim Jeffries. He is the Democrat leader 404 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 4: in the US House of Representatives. And look, the Democrats 405 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 4: are obsessed with getting Trump and it is so to 406 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 4: their detriment because there's a lot of people who don't 407 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,239 Speaker 4: like what the Republicans are doing, but they see the 408 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 4: Democrats as un serious partisan clowns. Who are not obsessed 409 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 4: with making lives better for people, They're not obsessed with governing, 410 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 4: They're simply obsessed with taking out Donald Trump. And we 411 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 4: heard this during the redistricting argument, which you and I 412 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 4: both agreed that that's not a right reason to change 413 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 4: your maps, which are good. But the Democrats are going 414 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 4: if they get the House of Representatives to try and 415 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 4: impeach Donald Trump. And Hakim Jeffries was on one of 416 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 4: these PBS affiliates and he listened to this. 417 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: He refuses to rule out impeaching Donald Trump. So here 418 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: we go again. 419 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 7: Later, Jeffries, if you believe the military action was unconstitutional, 420 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 7: as you seem to be indicating here, what can you 421 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 7: do about it? I mean, the President has lamented earlier 422 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 7: in this week to other Republicans that he was worried 423 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 7: Democrats would try to impeach him if they lose in 424 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 7: the upcoming midterms. Would you try to do that? 425 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 4: Well, what we have to do is deal with the 426 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 4: issue that's in front of us right now, and that's 427 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 4: to make sure that no further military action can be 428 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 4: taken without explicit congressional approval. 429 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 2: So here we go again. 430 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: I mean, they will not take this stuff off the table, 431 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 1: and that is going to motivate people otherwise suppressed Republican turnout. 432 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: If Trump can go out across the country and turn 433 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: it into they're going to take. 434 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 2: Me down if you don't go out and vote for 435 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 2: these people. 436 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 4: And that's why Republicans better get their act together in 437 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 4: these congressional elections and make sure that they're running on 438 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:50,239 Speaker 4: issues that are succinct and are well communicated and can 439 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 4: be supported by a majority of the population to ensure 440 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 4: that they are retain office or obtain office and stave 441 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 4: off this ridiculous conflict that the Democrats will quickly pursue 442 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 4: if they take. 443 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 2: The majority in the House. 444 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: Okay, I did want to dress something real quick, and 445 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: I don't think she'll mind me doing this. 446 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 2: If she did, I would I wouldn't do it. 447 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 4: But people are asking, like, where is Casey because she's 448 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 4: been out this week. Casey is not deceased, as far 449 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 4: as I know, thank goodness. She is not on the 450 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 4: run from the law. As far as I know, she 451 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 4: is not hiding in Baltimore with her daughter. As far 452 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 4: as I know, Casey's been under the weather. She is 453 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 4: doing better. 454 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: I talked to her yesterday it was a somewhat serious thing. 455 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: But she's doing better. It's not like she's sitting in 456 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: a hospital bed. It's not like she's in a hospice care. 457 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: She's at home on the men. She's doing better, and 458 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: hopefully she will be back very soon. She just needed 459 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: some recovery. Tell me, yeah, I don't think she would 460 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: mind me saying that. And I'll let her decide if 461 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: she wants to tell herbody what's going on. But she's 462 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 1: fine as far as I know, and she's just been 463 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: under the weather and is getting back to health. So 464 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: I didn't want to buy the people. Where is she at? 465 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: Did she finally have enough for rob? Blah blah blah? No, no, no, Casey, 466 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: Casey's fine. She she will hopefully be back one day. 467 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: That's going to happen. 468 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 4: We'll just happened, all yeah, Yeah, after four years, you've 469 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 4: had your chance, lady. 470 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break when we come back. 471 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 1: Jd Vance says America has a Somali problem. I got 472 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: play this audio for you. Ethan's in for Casey ninety 473 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: three WIBC. So jd Vance is saying something I think 474 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: that needs to be said, and at least now we're 475 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: finally getting these things out in the open. It's the 476 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: Kennelly Casey showing rob Ethan's in for Casey j keVs here. 477 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 1: One of the issues, and we talked about this a 478 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: lot during Trump's twenty twenty four run, was that when 479 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: we talk about immigration in this country, yes, illegal immigration 480 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 1: is a massive problem. You've got more, probably more, but 481 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: but we know of fifteen million people legally in this country. 482 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 1: That's a massive drain on your society. That's a massive 483 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: interference in the natural order of how things should be working, 484 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: and it's going to disrupt society, and it clearly has. 485 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,479 Speaker 1: But the other issue that has to be addressed is 486 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: legal immigration. People who are a temporary status have gotten 487 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: the various cards, they are by all, they are legally 488 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: here in this country. But is that working for society? 489 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: Is that a benefit for society? You have had all 490 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 1: of these people refugees. You know, there's a whole laundry 491 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: list of things you can throw at and say, these 492 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: people are here in this country legally temporarily. Whatever is 493 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: that working for society? I think a lot of people 494 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: said no, And I said, one of things Trump is 495 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 1: going to have to get a handle on is not 496 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: just stopping the flow of illegal immigration, but also clamping 497 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: down on who we're letting come into this country legally. 498 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: And I think as we're seeing with the Somali daycare 499 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: fraud stuff ethan, people are starting to pay attention to that. 500 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,959 Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, you should have discretion when it comes to 501 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 4: whom you are inviting into your country. It's like whom 502 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 4: you invite into your house. You should have discretion when 503 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 4: it comes to who is coming under your roof. And 504 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 4: if they are coming from cd disreputable locations, maybe you 505 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 4: don't want every individual from across the city, like certainly 506 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 4: you would scrutinize people coming into your home from thirty 507 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 4: eighth in Post Road more than you might from Carmel 508 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 4: for example. Well, and you have unless you meet certain 509 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 4: criteria which are spelled out in our constitution. And it 510 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 4: sounds like the Supreme Court is about to make a 511 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 4: more in depth determination on this very soon, which right now, 512 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 4: the accepted practice has been if you're born in this country, 513 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 4: then you have a right to be here. 514 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: Now again, that could change. Many people believe that that 515 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 1: may not have been the most accurate of interpretations. But 516 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 1: other than that, for the most part, unless you're a 517 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 1: natural born citizen, you have no right to be here. 518 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: You are a guest in our country. And one of 519 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 1: the major issues is a lack of conformity from these 520 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: people who have come to America. They change the communities 521 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: they go to, they don't change for the communities they 522 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: go to. If you live in Central Indiana, and I've 523 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: said this many, many times, it's the best example I 524 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: can give you. If you live in central Indiana and 525 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: you go to your local Walmart, if you live in 526 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: suburban in central Indiana and you go to your local Walmart, 527 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: it looks markedly different than it did ten years ago. 528 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 4: And it's it's such a perplexing position from my perspective 529 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 4: that these people want to come to America because of 530 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 4: the way that America exists, but then they don't want 531 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 4: to conform to the social norms of this society. They 532 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 4: want to import the social norms that they were fleeing. Yes, 533 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 4: they want they want the benefits without the adaptation, without 534 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 4: the assimilation. 535 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 2: No, you're spot on, But. 536 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 4: I mean, like, look, I if I wanted to move 537 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 4: to England, the expectation would be that I conform to 538 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 4: the way that the English people, you know, behave the 539 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,479 Speaker 4: they're social norms because you're not all titled ahole ethan, 540 00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 4: You're a decent member of society. 541 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,959 Speaker 2: You have morals, you have standards, you know. I mean, 542 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 2: I'm serious. These people are entitled a holes. 543 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: They believe they should be able to come somewhere, pick 544 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 1: and choose what they want to do. 545 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 2: Pick can choose what they want. 546 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: To cooperate with, get all the good parts, and then 547 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: just ignore everything else. 548 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 4: And I think part of the reason why people have 549 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 4: been afraid to say that in recent years is because 550 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 4: of the omnipresent damic le sword of the accusation of 551 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 4: racism that's always hanging over your head if you make 552 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 4: any objection to the way that some immigrants behave upon 553 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 4: coming to the country. And that's just that that's a 554 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 4: dishonest way to approach the topic. Sure, absolutely. 555 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 2: And JD. 556 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: Vance was on a Jesse Waters and he addressed this 557 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: specifically as it was related to Samoya. Samoya and the 558 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 1: small Somalis who are in this country. 559 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 8: Take a listen, if you look at the amount of 560 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 8: fraud in the welfare system. 561 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 2: According to the. 562 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 8: Statistics, I've seen eighty five percent of Somalans Smolians who 563 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 8: are in the United States, legal and illegal, are collecting some. 564 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 2: Form of welfare benefits. 565 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 8: So that's not to disparage the other fifteen percent, but 566 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 8: when you're in an eighty five percent of a population 567 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 8: that is collecting welfare, that suggests that we have really 568 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 8: done something wrong with regards to vetting. And that's the 569 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 8: fundamental issue. Even if there's no fraud, eighty five percent 570 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 8: collecting welfare is way too many damn people collecting welfare 571 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 8: getting rich off the American taxpayer while a lot of 572 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 8: Americans struggle. That's unacceptable. What's going on in Minneapolis, I 573 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 8: think is actually representative of a broader fraud scheme that 574 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 8: we're going to see all over the country. We're going 575 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 8: to see it in California, We're going to see in 576 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 8: other places too, where people get rich from the American taxpayer. 577 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 8: The Somalian fraud, for example, daycare fraud. You've got Americans, 578 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 8: We've got programs set up to make it easier for 579 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 8: Americans to get their kids in daycare so they. 580 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 2: Can have proper childcare. 581 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 8: You take that money and you siphon it off to 582 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 8: Somalian fraudsters. 583 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 2: That's a double theft. 584 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 8: Number one, that means a lot of American families can't 585 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 8: afford their childcare. Number two, that means a lot of 586 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 8: American taxpayers are being fleeced. 587 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 2: It's totally unacceptable. 588 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 1: And I can't reiterate this enough about the stuff that 589 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: it's not just happening in Minnesota. 590 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 4: I've told this story before. I had a dinner this 591 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 4: was last year with. 592 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 1: A prominent Central Indiana school superintendent. This is a very 593 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: well known person. I will not name the person. 594 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 4: I meet with people all the time that people drop 595 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 4: over dead if they knew that I was associating with them. 596 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 4: Because there's a lot of people who, even people who 597 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 4: don't agree with us politically on everything, they respect that 598 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 4: we go out and we tell the truth, that we 599 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 4: tell you what's going on. And this who is this 600 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 4: person is not a conservative, you know, not a Trump loyalist. 601 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 4: It is this is a very well known Central Indiana 602 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 4: school superintendent. And what this person told me is he said, 603 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 4: one of the major problems with immigration in this country 604 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 4: and how it's affecting every community is that what these 605 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 4: people who are getting this legal status right, people are 606 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 4: legally coming into his country to be a refugee or 607 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 4: timber tps or whatever is. They are smart enough to 608 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 4: know that they can pool their resources together and create 609 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 4: the perception of wealth. And what he means by that 610 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 4: is a lot of these communities now we're in centrally 611 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 4: it be a Brownsburg or Noblesville or Avon or whatever. 612 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 4: These council members are not smart enough to know what's 613 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 4: going on. So they will see the price point on 614 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 4: a house. Let's say it's a four hundred and fifty 615 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 4: thousand dollars house. That sounds like a lot of money, right, 616 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 4: And they'll say, oh, this neighborhood, it's going to be nothing. 617 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 4: But you know, the price point is going to be 618 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 4: four hundred orourhund and fifty thousand dollars. 619 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 2: We'll look at that. How can we possibly say no? 620 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 1: And they put these high density housing developments, they call 621 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: them R three the tightest zone. It's a quarter of 622 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 1: an acre lot, you know what I'm talking about. Yes, 623 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: And they'll say, well, but look at the price point. 624 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: But what these temporary status people, these refugees, what they 625 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 1: do is you've got three or four families living in 626 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: that house. So from the perspective of the public school system, 627 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 1: you've got the equivalent of you you've got three families 628 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: that are all producing two kids. Now you've got six 629 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: kids in a four hundred and four and fifty thousand 630 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 1: dollars house, which means it becomes the equivalent from a 631 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: government services perspective of one hundred and fifty thousand dollars house. 632 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 4: Well, and then you're talking about the drain of resources 633 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 4: that these communities inflict on local towns across America and 634 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 4: across Indiana. And I'm thinking in particular of Wayne County 635 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 4: over there in the eastern part of the state, around 636 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 4: the area of Richmond. 637 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 2: And I can't. 638 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 4: Remember the statistics exactly off the top of my head, 639 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 4: but I know these school school systems down there have 640 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 4: dozens of different languages that are spoken within the school 641 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 4: from dozens of different countries around. 642 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 2: The world that require many. 643 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 4: Specialty a specialty people in order to facilitate, you know, 644 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 4: translating in order to specialists specialists, yes, a specialist specialists 645 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 4: to physical also specialty. 646 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: People, yes, brain fart yeah, Oh you're fine. It's only 647 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: the most powerful media out in the state. The five 648 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: seconds of dead. 649 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 2: Air was fine. 650 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 4: It's thank you, Rob, Thank you for pointing it out. 651 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 4: That's the salt on the wound anyway. That is to say, 652 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 4: it's imposing an enormous cost on a relatively rural community 653 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 4: in order to facilitate the education of all these people. 654 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 4: And the functioning facts on the ground is that America 655 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 4: cannot sustain paying. 656 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 2: For the rest of the world. 657 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 4: You know what, we can take care of our country, 658 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 4: we can't take care of everyone else, one of the things. 659 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 4: And we'd have time to get into it when we 660 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 4: had Nick and Nathan robertson to start the hour. One 661 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 4: of the things that Nathan's group Save Heritage Indiana is 662 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 4: advocating for is not just getting rid of illegal immigration. 663 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 4: They're arguing for a pause on all immigration in this 664 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 4: country to get time to vet these people who are 665 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 4: contributing versus who are not, and get these people out who. 666 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 2: Are being who are draining. 667 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: The system because so many of these people we get 668 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: so focused on the illegal immigration. We absolutely should, but 669 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: so many people who are draining society and draining the 670 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: system and draining resources are who have come to this 671 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: country via legal means, but they are not pulling their weight, 672 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: They're not adapting, they're not assimilating well. 673 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 4: We can already put a pause on this system because 674 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 4: we have fifteen million people here that shouldn't be here 675 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 4: that we have to deal with, and we can't further 676 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,959 Speaker 4: invite burden onto the American people that more so than 677 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 4: already exists. 678 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 2: Okay, let's take a break. 679 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: When we come back, Bernie Sanders, you remember him, he 680 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: is saying that Trump has made the US and the 681 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: world less safe by capturing Maduro. We'll play that very 682 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: fabulous audio. And then Rick Scott, Republican Senator, he says 683 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: we're going to change. 684 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 4: Everywhere, So that also sounds rather ominous. Well play it 685 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 4: for your next ninety three WIBC. Hey, guys, it's rob 686 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 4: for we grow hair. Indie, Man, it seems hard to believe. 687 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 4: Five years ago I was a hideous gargoyle and then 688 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 4: I made the choice for we grow hair indeed, and 689 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,959 Speaker 4: now I'm just still a gargoyle, but less hideous. 690 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:00,719 Speaker 6: Uh. 691 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 4: By the top of my hair, though, was absolutely fabulous. 692 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 4: It's beautiful. The rest of me is a complete train wreck. 693 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 4: But uh, here's how it works. You call today three 694 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 4: what seven five two two two nine nine five three 695 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 4: one seven five two two to nine nine five You 696 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 4: schedule totally free, no hassle, no obligation, consultation. 697 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: You go in Darren in the gang. They're top notch guys. 698 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: They're gonna take a look at the top of your head, see. 699 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 2: What's going on. 700 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: Say maybe if you did this, it'll look a little 701 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: bit better, and then you have all the power. In 702 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: the meantime, if you'd like to see some other people 703 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: that made the choice head we grow hair Indie get 704 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,479 Speaker 1: their confidence back. Visit we Grow hair Indie dot com. 705 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: We Grow Hairindie dot com. Call today three one seven 706 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: five two two two nine niney five tell them Rob Sentia. Okay, 707 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: Ernie Sanders. 708 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 4: Is uh back flapping his gums again, and he uh 709 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 4: he thinks he that Trump has made the world somehow 710 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 4: less safe and us, as the United States, less safe 711 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 4: by capturing Maduro. I'm pretty sure the war in Ukraine 712 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 4: started under President Joe Biden, not President Donald Trump. Yes, 713 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 4: that's correct, and it does beg the question which I'm 714 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 4: sure he will never answer, that what don't we play 715 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 4: the audio of Bernie Sanders first, and then I'll ask 716 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 4: the question that Bernie Sanders does not want to answer. 717 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 5: Trump's attack on Venezuela will not make the United States 718 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 5: and the world safer. Quite the contrary, this brazen violation 719 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 5: of international law gives a green light to any other 720 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 5: nation on Earth, or any terrorist organization that may wish 721 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 5: to attack another country, and they will use Trump's action 722 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 5: in Venezuela as their rationale. Trump did it, why. 723 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 2: Can't we do it? Okay? 724 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: So, first of all, we're not at war with venezuel 725 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: We removed this guy who, through our legal system had 726 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: had a had an, you know, an indictment against him. 727 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: And the question for Bernie Sanders and for the Democrats 728 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: that they will not answer is if this was so wrong, 729 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: why did Joe Biden have a twenty five million dollar 730 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: bounty on this guy? How did they expect to Like logically, 731 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: how would you expect somebody to cash in a bounty 732 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: if they didn't do exactly what Trump did, so, Like, 733 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: would it been okay if some you know, cape crusader 734 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: or masked avenger had swooped in there, caught him and 735 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: just dropped him off on the Florida shores and then 736 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: we indicted him that way? 737 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 2: Like would that have been okay? 738 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: If Christian Bale had put the Batman suit back on 739 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: and gone and got this guy, him and Alfred And 740 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: that's the plot. 741 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 4: Right, if they'd got if they if they'd have got 742 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 4: a what's the uh, what's the the Morgan Freeman involved 743 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 4: in this? 744 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 2: Like wouldn't be the backplane. Yeah, these people are so 745 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 2: ridiculous because. 746 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: Your guy proposed the same thing that Trump actually did, 747 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 1: and not a word from you when that was going on. 748 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 2: I don't know if you caught this. 749 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 4: But let's also analyze what Bernie Sanders said there. And 750 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 4: I'm surprised he didn't trip on his way to the 751 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 4: mark microphone wearing his clown shoes, because he said, terrorist 752 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 4: organizations will here's this as an excuse to behave violently 753 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:25,959 Speaker 4: around the globe, violating international law. Yes, terrorist organizations very 754 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 4: well known for abiding by international law. 755 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,280 Speaker 2: What a well a buffoon. 756 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 4: And so it comes back to we talked about this 757 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 4: as we open the show, and we'll get into it 758 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 4: again later on in the program about this, you know, 759 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 4: this shooting that took place in Minnesota with these with 760 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 4: these federal agents, and that is as I've broken my 761 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 4: microphone here. But anyway, the just twist the thing and 762 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 4: then it'll tighten back up. Oh very good. Oh, how 763 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 4: about that. See nope, whoops, No, there you go. Well, 764 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 4: we'll work with you anyway. 765 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: The point of all this is it's the same thing 766 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: with these guys in Minnesota. With Minnesota, where there is 767 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: a measured response, like I feel like you had a 768 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: very measured response. I feel like my response was pretty 769 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: measured in saying, hey, it's great, this guy's gone. 770 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 2: What happens now? 771 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: We don't have a great track record with what happens next. 772 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: Every person should have some concern because what happens next 773 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: really goes good for the United States. 774 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 2: When we depose dictators that you can. 775 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: Say that have that response, It doesn't make you an extremist, 776 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,800 Speaker 1: it doesn't make you a TDS, it doesn't make you 777 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 1: any of that. It makes you concern middle of the 778 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: road American. Same thing with the shooting in Minnesota. You 779 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: can say, I'm concerned about this is ice the most 780 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,919 Speaker 1: effective way to do what we want to do. I'm 781 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: concerned was the use of deadly forced necessary. You know, 782 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: let's let all the facts come out before we declare 783 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: these people the greatest American hero. But when you're immediately 784 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,280 Speaker 1: they're the devil, they're the bad guy, They're causing violence, 785 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 1: people just tune. 786 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 2: You out because that's ridiculous. 787 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 1: They're they're trying to catch illegal immigrants who are clearly 788 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: in this country. 789 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,879 Speaker 4: She had three opportunities to avert disaster. If she would 790 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 4: have never blocked traffic, it would have never happened. 791 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 2: And if she would have. 792 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 4: Obeyed lawful orders upon being given them, it would have 793 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 4: never happened. And if she had not chosen to accelerate 794 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 4: her vehicle in the direction of law enforcement officers, it 795 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,240 Speaker 4: would have never happened. That's three distinct opportunities to avert disaster, 796 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 4: and she blew through them. 797 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 8: All. 798 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 4: Okay, speak of that. We got audio from Christy Nome. 799 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 4: When we come back, we've got jakeem Jeffries going after Ice. 800 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,720 Speaker 4: We've got Minnesota Democrats, Senator Tina Smith going after Ice 801 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,359 Speaker 4: so much Minneapolis. When we come back, it's Kittle Casey Show, 802 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 4: Ditty's re WIBC