1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: All right, So we'll get to the Tulsi gabbered press 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: conference in just a moment, because that was all sorts 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: of fun yesterday. But first, you you've sent a sternly 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: worded letter. 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if it's sternly worded. I think 6 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,319 Speaker 2: it's mostly professional as I try to be. This is 7 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 2: in regards to the Secretary of State's appearance at the 8 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: Motor Vehicle Advisory Board meeting where he went full let's 9 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 2: fight with the media mode. 10 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, so just before we talk about this email, let's 11 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: just reset because we led the show with it. But yesterday, 12 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: the Secretary of State, Diego Morales, unprompted for who knows 13 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: what reason, went on about a fifteen minute bizarro rant 14 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: at the Motor Vehicle Advisory Board meeting. The people that 15 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: were on camera because it was streamed via zoom or 16 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: like the looks on their faces. Some guy was just 17 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: trying to eat his lunch. He just went on and 18 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: on about how we WIBC were fake news that. 19 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: It reminded me of like a staff meeting. You ever 20 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: have one of those meetings and the boss is telling 21 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 2: you something and you're like, I don't want to be here. 22 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 2: I don't want to be here. I don't want to 23 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 2: be here. 24 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 3: That's what it felt like. I mean it, it was totally. 25 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: It had nothing to do with the meeting, no point 26 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: to I think WBC was on the agenda. The indie 27 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: story was throwing shade at them to Niki Kelly at 28 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: the Capitol Crime. Mean, it's fifteen minutes and Niki Kelly 29 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: the Capitol Chronicle, who will talk to next segment? They 30 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: wrote a big article on it. But one of the 31 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: things he kept saying is that we were fake WIBC. 32 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 3: I don't know what that means. 33 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: I mean, we are the real WIBC, to which you 34 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: actually addressed that on social media, right, yeah, I did. 35 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 2: Actually, Kevin, can you pull up clip number two really quick? 36 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 2: Because he said we're fake news. 37 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 3: You're real. 38 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: I can see you, I can touch you if I 39 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 2: wanted to. You know, I met everybody else on the 40 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 2: staff here. They're real, existing people, not fake at all. 41 00:01:55,000 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 2: So to diego Morales, Secretary of State, fake nah. And 42 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 2: by the way, they're real and they're spectacular. 43 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 3: It was. 44 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: It was the weirdest I think it is the weirdest 45 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: thing in a government meeting. And I've been going to 46 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 1: these meetings for watching them or whatever for a very 47 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: long time. And so in light of him, just over 48 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: and let's keV, do you have the montage? I want 49 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 1: to play the montage so people know that we're not 50 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: making this up. This was in an official government meeting. 51 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 1: And this is the Secretary of State unprompted, just repeatedly, 52 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 1: over and over and over, calling us fake news. 53 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 4: Hard work that the Morales administration has been doing since 54 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 4: I took office. Because the fake news will never share that, 55 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 4: the fake WIBC, the fake in the Star, they will 56 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 4: never So don't pay attention to. 57 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 2: The fake news. 58 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 4: It is time for someone I need to share what 59 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 4: we have that HOU is going. And by the way, 60 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 4: the first second time in the first stay White office 61 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 4: in the history of Indiana. I hope you all obvious 62 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 4: weekend and you can tell the fake news as well 63 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 4: that I Chris crossed all ninety two counties within three 64 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 4: months three months? 65 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 3: Tell me who? Tell me who other state White. 66 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 4: Office called it? Has Chris cross or ninety two counties 67 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 4: within three months? 68 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:17,399 Speaker 2: No one. 69 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 4: I'm almost finishing my third round of visiting all ninety 70 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 4: two counties, and which is did July? 71 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 2: Where is the fake news sharing about. 72 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: All of them, all right, He goes on and on 73 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: and on for like another minute of mantra. By the 74 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: way he is, he is wanting you to applaud him 75 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: for getting in his ninety thousand dollars taxpayer funded automobile 76 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: with his taxpayer funded gas and going places exactly anyway. 77 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: So you were very concerned that we are I mean, 78 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: we are real people, and that he kept calling us 79 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: fake news. And our point was the only thing we 80 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: have said is we want to know who paid for 81 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: this mysterious trip to India. 82 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 3: We want proof you paid it back. 83 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: And we want to know what the Raju guy does 84 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: for the eighty thousand dollars mysteriore contract that we can't 85 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: get a clear answer on. That's it. We don't know 86 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: what's fake about that. So you have sent an email to. 87 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 2: His communications director, I said in regards to Secretary Morales's 88 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 2: high profile comment stating WIBC is fake news, we are 89 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 2: asking for his official position as to what is fake. Also, 90 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 2: we would like to invite the Secretary to appear on 91 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 2: the Kendall and Case Show live in person as an 92 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 2: opportunity to share his accomplishments. When can we expect him. 93 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 2: Thank you for your consideration. 94 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: That's wonderful now, no doubt, because he was so mad 95 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: about us being the fake news, which we don't know 96 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: what we did was fake. 97 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 2: We'll give him the platform. It seemed like he really 98 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 2: wanted attention last night. Yes, so let's give him the 99 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 2: attention that he wants. He wants an opportunity on this 100 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 2: radio station to tout his accomplishments. We're going to give 101 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 2: it to him. Come on in, tell us what you've done, 102 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 2: absolutely everything you've done. 103 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 3: All right, what's going on with Tulsea gabck? 104 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 2: Okay, so she had a well, she appeared at a 105 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 2: rare White House press conference, huh, and she was discussing 106 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 2: the Russian interference in the twenty sixteen election conversation. Right, 107 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 2: So she says that what she unleashed on Obama and 108 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: said that he was treasonous and it all demands accountability. 109 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 2: She has requested to unclassify the House Intelligence Committee report, 110 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 2: which was first drafted in twenty seventeen. 111 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 3: So think about that. 112 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: You've had something for eight years now and has been 113 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: what just sitting in the darkness, I mean, allegedly a 114 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: foreign government and there appears to be evidence attempted to 115 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: manipulate American elections, perhaps in some capacity. Allegedly a city 116 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: United States president was involved in attempting to manipulate the 117 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: outcome of a pres residential election. And this stuff, we 118 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 1: as taxers pay for the information to be consumed, and 119 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: then it just hides in the shadow, like why does 120 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: that happen? 121 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 2: So, Gabbert said that there's evidence that suggests that President 122 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: Obama led the manufacturing of the twenty sixteen intelligence assessment. 123 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: Also referred documents to the DOJ and the FBI for 124 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: potential investigation. At one point, the report claims that putin 125 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 2: withheld compromising material on Hillary Clinton, and it was that 126 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 2: he was assuming that she would win and he would 127 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 2: use that information on her post election. Do we have 128 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 2: a week in her presidency? 129 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,679 Speaker 1: Do we have some audio from the Gabbard press conference? 130 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, we do. Here she is. 131 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 5: There is irrefutable evidence that detail how President Obama and 132 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 5: his national security team directed the creation of an intelligence 133 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 5: community assessment that they knew was false. 134 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 2: They knew it would. 135 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 5: Promote this contrived narrative that Russia interfered in the twenty 136 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 5: sixteen election to help President Trump win, selling it to 137 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 5: the American people as though it were true. It wasn't. 138 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 5: The report that we released today shows in great detail 139 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 5: how they carried this out. They manufactured findings from shoddy sources. 140 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 5: They suppressed evidence and credible intelligence that disproved their false claims. 141 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 5: They disobeyed traditional trade craft intelligence community standards, and withheld 142 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 5: the truth from the American people. In doing so, they 143 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 5: conspired to subvert the will of the American people who 144 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 5: elected Donald Trump in that election in November of twenty sixteen. 145 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 5: They worked with their partners in the media to promote 146 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 5: this lie, ultimately to undermine the legitimacy of President Trump 147 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 5: and launching what would be a year's long coup against 148 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 5: him and his administration. We're here today because the American 149 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 5: people deserve the truth, they deserve accountability, and they justice. 150 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 3: Okay, two things. 151 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: One I've failed to mention this earlier, and we always 152 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: try to give credit whatever source for citing Indie Reporter 153 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: is the is the group that put together that little 154 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: montage of Diego calling us fake news at Indie Underscore 155 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: Reporter Underscore on Twitter. So we always try to wherever 156 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: we're getting stuff from. But back to this, I remember 157 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: Connie Lawson, who was the Secretary of State at the time, who, 158 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: by the way, one of the things we haven't pointed 159 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: out in Diego's a little rant tothon, he basically said, 160 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: every secretary of State before me sucked. All he did 161 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,599 Speaker 1: was just throw them under the bus. So, Holly Sullivan, 162 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: Connie Lawson, I guess Roketa Todd Raketo is the attorney general. 163 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: You people stunk at your jobs, stunk, stunk, and he's 164 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: having to clean up all your messages. That was the 165 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: over overarching theme of that little diatribe yesterday. Anyway, I 166 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: remember her saying in twenty seventeen some of the effect 167 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: of it's basically impossible to quote unquote hack an election 168 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: on some sort of large scale because the voting as 169 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: long as the voting machines are hooked up to the internet, right, 170 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: because the way the voting machine works now are their 171 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 1: errors with voting machines. Of course, do things get mistabulated, 172 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: of course, can that affect like a county wide election 173 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: or a town or city election of course right where 174 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: ten votes matter, of course, But in terms of like 175 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: on a national or even a state level, hacking the 176 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: election as long as the machines are hooked up to 177 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: the Internet. Is basically impossible because what the machine does 178 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: is it just tabulates what's taken place there. They pull 179 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,599 Speaker 1: the tab out, it's supposed to be supposed to be 180 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: is the keyword watched by both the representatives of both 181 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: parties as then that machine's tabulation in a sealed envelope 182 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: is delivered to the county headquarters, and then they're supposed 183 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: to be watched as they're entered into the system. 184 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 3: That's how it's supposed to work. 185 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: Now, can Shenanigan's happened, Yes, Do they happen, yes, But 186 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: in terms of hacking an election a foreign government, it's 187 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: very hard, if not impossible, to do as long as 188 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: the machines aren't hooked up to the Internet, or there's 189 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: not some agent actor manipulating the machines. 190 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 2: So Tulca Gabbert and the White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt, 191 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 2: they repeatedly declined to name any potential charges against Obama, 192 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 2: just said they're going to refer him to the DOJ 193 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 2: for criminal investigations. 194 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 3: I'll answer it none. That's what going to happen. Nothing's 195 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 3: going to happen, and nothing ever happens. 196 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 2: But one thing that was kind of saucy that came 197 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 2: out of it was that Tulca Gabbard confirmed her while 198 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 2: she said that Hillary Clinton was in a mental breakdown 199 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 2: mode and was also heavily medicated. In twenty sixteen, there. 200 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 5: Were high level DNC emails that detailed evidence of Hillary's quote, 201 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 5: psycho emotional problems, uncontrolled fits of anger, aggression, and cheerfulness, 202 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 5: and that then Secretary Clinton was allegedly on a daily 203 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 5: regiment of heavy. 204 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 2: Tranquilizers, uncontrolled fits of anger, and also cheerfulness. Well, that 205 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 2: could be menopause as well. 206 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,599 Speaker 1: Hey, we got to take a break. Kelly from the 207 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: Capitol Chronicle is going to join us next. We got 208 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: to get to this stuff with Diego. They got a 209 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: big piece out on Diego's Bizarro rant yesterday. They got 210 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: the stuff on the electric bills going up. She's got 211 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: some new stuff on tolling. We got a lot to 212 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: get to. 213 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 2: It's Kendaly Casey. It's ninety three WIBC. 214 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 3: Where is. 215 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: Where is. 216 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 3: Well? Casey? 217 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: It's been another wild and wacky couple of days in 218 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: Indiana politics and government. 219 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 3: You never know what's gonna happen, do. 220 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: Ya We always think there'll be nothing in the summer, 221 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: and then sometimes there ends up being more in the 222 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: summer than there was in the Stario session. Yeah, of course, 223 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: the big story here today is that totally unhinged fifteen 224 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: ish minute rant from the Secretary of State Diego Morales. 225 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: He is big mad at us. We WIBC are fake news. 226 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: We played that audio for you in the first hour, 227 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: and somebody who took it all in. 228 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 3: One of the best in the. 229 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 1: Business is the Indiana Capitol Chronicle. The head hancho over 230 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: there is Nicki Kelly, and she has a big piece 231 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: out there. The Capitol Chronicle does on that that BMV 232 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: rant yesterday. 233 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 3: She joins us. 234 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 6: Now, Nicki Kelly, Hello morning, how are you guys? 235 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: Okay, you've covered Indiana politics and government for a long time. 236 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: You ever seen some politicians start ranting at the media 237 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: in a in a mundane advisory board meeting like Diego 238 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 1: did with us in the Star yesterday. 239 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 6: No, that was a first. It was It was pretty incredible. 240 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 6: You know, at first I thought it was going to 241 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 6: be a couple minutes of all the great stuff we're doing, 242 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 6: which okay, fine, but you know, it just kept going on. 243 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 6: And on, and it was it was all over the place, 244 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 6: you know, beyond the fake media stuff. If you look 245 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 6: past that, you know, it was all about things he's 246 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 6: doing with trade delegations. It was bringing up programs his 247 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 6: his offices offering to the state fair or free experience 248 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 6: auto checks, and he was acting like, you know they 249 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 6: were free, but the state is paying for those tech 250 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 6: bears and so. And it was just so odd because, 251 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 6: like you said, it's the Motor Vehicle Advisory Board. The 252 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 6: people on this board are auto dealers. They're there to 253 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 6: talk about like the issues of you know, auto dealers, 254 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 6: people who get in trouble or whatever. And some of 255 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 6: them just looked absolutely flamoxed at what was going on. 256 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 6: And like I said, it just kept going. Yeah, it 257 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 6: just going. 258 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: And you did the lord's work because I wouldn't subject 259 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: my worst enemy, I mean at Guantanamo Bay. Now maybe 260 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: that's what they'll do. They'll make people listen to that 261 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes of him unhinged at the advisor work. You've 262 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: actually written an article about the whole thing, So NICKI, 263 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: Kelly kind of just summarizes it for you if you 264 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 1: don't want to have to subject yourself to fifteen minutes 265 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: of this and Nikki, do you like, how did you 266 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: guys get removed? You guys have written stuff about this. 267 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: Don't you feel a little left out that he just 268 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 1: was coming at us? 269 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 6: In the Star one of our team members say that, 270 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 6: but I, you know what, I don't know. I'm good 271 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 6: with it. You know, Honestly, someone sent me that clip. 272 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 6: I listened to it. It was late in the day. 273 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 6: It was one of those things where I said to 274 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 6: my team guys, just late in the day, but I 275 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 6: really think this is something. So I had another reporter, 276 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 6: Casey Smith, listened to it and she said, yeah, you know, 277 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 6: so she's the one who actually wrote up the story, 278 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 6: and so it was just so different from anything that 279 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 6: we'd ever seen before from a statewide elected official, and 280 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 6: so we felt like, you know, the public should should 281 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 6: see it. 282 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you have any idea what we're fake news about? 283 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: Because all we want to know is who paid for 284 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: the India trip, proof he paid the money back what 285 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: he said he did. And then we've also kind to 286 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: asked some questions about, Hey, what does that raj you 287 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: guy do for all the money we're paying? What do 288 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: we have any idea what we're fake news about well. 289 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 6: I mean, the fact is that there are a number 290 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 6: of things he's been criticized for over the the last 291 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 6: couple of years. So I think it's just all encompassing. 292 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 6: It's basically anything questioning, uh, you know what things that 293 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 6: he's doing, whether spending or contracts or bonuses or buying 294 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 6: cars that are expensive. I mean, take your pick. There 295 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 6: are a number two to look. 296 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 2: At, Nikki. It seemed like he's very upset that he's 297 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 2: not getting promotion of the good deeds that the die 298 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 2: The Morales administration has been doing. Can you be a 299 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 2: broker of honesty for us and give him a grade 300 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 2: as Secretary of State if you were to look at 301 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 2: the good, the bad, and the ugly, where actually does 302 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 2: Diego Morales stand or tiptoe? 303 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 6: That's not really my place. You know what he mentioned 304 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 6: for instance, enforcement actions. I don't know enough about how 305 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 6: enforcement actions against deal auto dealers work to know whether 306 00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 6: he's improved that or not. I can't say transparency wise 307 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 6: and spending wise. I think it's fair to say that 308 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 6: he hasn't acted very fiscally conservative. I think that's very fair. 309 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 6: Just we can look you can look at that from 310 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 6: printing maps to you know, like I said, the spot bonuses, 311 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 6: hiring your brother in law. You know, there's so much 312 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 6: there on the money side that you know that alone 313 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 6: is enough to cause concerns. 314 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: Nikki Kelly from the Indiana Capitol Chronicle as our guest, 315 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: all right, you guys had another big story. And I 316 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: say this all the time there was the mainstream media 317 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: in this city. I think Capitol Chronicle does the best 318 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: investigative work about the price of electric bills. And boy, howdy, 319 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: Nikki Kelly, this was your story. I believe we are 320 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: paying a lot more this year in the state of 321 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: Indiana for electric bills. 322 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, it was a very interesting story. So is int 323 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 6: Action Coalition, who is a consumer based watchdog on utilities. 324 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 6: They basically they've done this for a couple of years, 325 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 6: but this one was so much larger. They look at 326 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 6: July first rates for residential homeowners and they just say, 327 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 6: an average homeowner at one thousand kilowot hours that you 328 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 6: use to just you know, make it so that it's 329 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 6: apples to apples and fall in a year over year 330 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 6: a seventeen and a half percent increase in the five 331 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 6: investor own utilities. But what we call the Big five. 332 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 6: Basically most people are getting their electricity from them, and 333 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 6: so and it was like twenty eight dollars a year 334 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 6: on average statewide, some higher than that, some lower, and so, yeah, 335 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,239 Speaker 6: that's pretty stark. I think everyone knows who pays their 336 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 6: electric bill that they're paying more, but to see it 337 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 6: in that and they said that, I think the previous 338 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 6: high year every year was like nine percent increase, so 339 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 6: you know, more than double on that. So yeah, it 340 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 6: was pretty some pretty stark numbers and I think Hoosiers 341 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 6: have known it, but seeing it in data was interesting. 342 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: Now, what was interesting about this article is that the 343 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: power people, for lack of a better term, were like, well, 344 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: there's all this new demand we have to keep up with. 345 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 3: And then of. 346 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,479 Speaker 1: Course then people are like, well what is all of 347 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: this new demand? And then you get into all these 348 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: mega corps and foreign corps and data centers, and do 349 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 1: the power people have a point or are they just 350 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: like sticking it to the folks. 351 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 6: Well, look, obviously there is always new demand, and with 352 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 6: as much as data centers, and we actually have a 353 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 6: few data centers going through, but I don't think we 354 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 6: have a lot operating yet. So that's part of it. 355 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 6: They also point out that there's a secondary part that 356 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 6: is just they've been improving the grid and reliability, So 357 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 6: there's affordability and then there's reliability and their voice basic 358 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 6: coinas you got to consider everything, and you know, we 359 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 6: don't want to become Texas where everyone loses their power 360 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 6: during storms and things like that. So they say, look, 361 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 6: we've been improving the transmission grid, make it so it's 362 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 6: more of a liable there. And so they're basically saying, look, 363 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 6: we're responding to demand and we're trying to make sure 364 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 6: that the service you get is good. 365 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: Okay, So what's the the I mean, we're headed to 366 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: stand off on this right because people can't be having 367 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: their bills go up thirty per ish percent every you know, 368 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: every two three years. 369 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 3: What's the end game? 370 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,479 Speaker 1: Here? Are the politicians going to get involved? What can 371 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: they do? Where do you see this heading? 372 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 6: Well, I think lawmakers have started to be frustrating. You know, 373 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 6: Indiana used to be known for having the best electric 374 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 6: rates in the nation, and so we are you know 375 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 6: now in the like top third, you know, really easily half, 376 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 6: and so they have slowly been making more comments about, 377 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 6: you know, we need to figure this out, and they're 378 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 6: trying to do in all of the above strategy, so 379 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 6: to speak, in terms they think nuclear will really matter. 380 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 6: But again, nuclear decades down the road, and so it 381 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 6: doesn't help anyone paying their bills now. 382 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 2: Have there been a lot of environmental regulations coming into 383 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 2: play with US. 384 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 6: I mean they're certainly under the Biden administration, there were 385 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 6: tighter environmental regulations than during some Republican administrations, but no 386 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 6: one has really brought that up as you know, major issue. 387 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 6: And you also have to point out that some of 388 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 6: these electric utilities that are moving away from coal or whatever, 389 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 6: they're doing that on their own, not because of a mandate, 390 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 6: but because they believe it's best for their services and 391 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 6: their shareholders. 392 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 1: Nikki Kelly from the Capitol Chronicle, our guests, all right, 393 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,959 Speaker 1: before we let you go, you get a column opinion piece. 394 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: A nice thing about the Capitol Chronicle. They clearly delineate 395 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: there's a big section that's his opinions, so you know, 396 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: once you've hit there, you proceed at. 397 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 2: Your own commentary. 398 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, your own risks. 399 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: We like that they separate that you have a big 400 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: opinion piece on the tolling that is inevitably coming. What's 401 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: say you as the governor now with zero obstacle control 402 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 1: whatever whenever. 403 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I got to be honest with you. 404 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 6: I've written a lot of things over the years, and 405 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 6: aside from COVID related things, I have never received as 406 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 6: much feedback as I have on that column. People and 407 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 6: not not all like how dare you? Like? People really 408 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 6: trying to understand, like what's happening and some of them 409 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 6: saying no way, you know obviously so fascinating stuff. I 410 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 6: do think if there's a move toward TOLINE, I think 411 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 6: it has become clear to me, at least in dealing 412 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 6: with some of these people, that the broad administration has 413 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 6: a huge task in educating the public because and I 414 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 6: think a lot of it would do better with a 415 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 6: lot of people are annoyed and would like an audit 416 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 6: of how the money is being spent, because it feels 417 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 6: like we just spend more and more and more, but 418 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 6: the roads don't technically improve, or at least that's the perception. 419 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 6: And so you know, maybe looking more at like, you know, 420 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 6: are we using the right contractors? Are we using the 421 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 6: right you know, I don't know enough about road building, 422 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 6: but are we using the right materials, you know, to 423 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 6: make these last. Or are we doing something wrong that 424 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 6: all this money doesn't seem to be having a difference. 425 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 6: But I think if they're going to add more money 426 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 6: to the mix, they've got to prove that. Another thing 427 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 6: that I found really interesting was more than one person 428 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 6: reached out and said, Okay, we get it. You know, 429 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 6: we need some additional money, and we get that the 430 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 6: gas tax is a diminishing return as vehicles become more 431 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 6: fuel efficient, et cetera. Also, because of the width of 432 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 6: our state, a lot of people can drive through it 433 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 6: aka trucks and not fill up, so they don't end 434 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 6: up paying to the system. Right, So they said, well, 435 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 6: what if we told everything but we remove the state 436 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 6: gas tax? And I thought, well, you know, that's an 437 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 6: interesting idea. That's a fair discussion to have. I think. 438 00:22:59,080 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 439 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: And one thing you before I let you go, I 440 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: thought was interesting. You were talking about, Hey, it's one 441 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: thing if you know at this point in the state, 442 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: like now heading up to Chicago, heading to Louisville, you 443 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: know you're gonna pay the toll. You were talking about 444 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: though in the column, Well what if they hit where 445 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: people drive every single day? 446 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 3: And I think you're right. 447 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 1: They got to provide some big clarity on this real 448 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: quick or people are going to get very upset. 449 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 6: Yeah. These are roads that were obviously built by the 450 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 6: federal government way back in the day, sixty five seventy, 451 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 6: you know, things like that, and so they're they're paid. 452 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 6: I mean, obviously we have maintenance and you may or 453 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 6: may not need to add a lane occasionally, you know 454 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 6: that kind of thing. But these are paid off. And 455 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 6: if you're going to start tolding something that I used 456 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 6: to get to work every day, yeah, it's going to 457 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 6: be a hard sell. 458 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: She is one of the best in the business. Read 459 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: them every day we do on this program. Indiana Capitol 460 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 1: Chronicle dot com is the website. 461 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 3: Nikki Kelly, thank. 462 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,479 Speaker 6: You, Thank you guys. 463 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, have a good one. It is Kendall and Casey 464 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 2: on that three w IBC. 465 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 3: It's upon a time. 466 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: Trump is uh boy, he's really obsessed with the Late 467 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: night people. 468 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 2: Is first. It was Stephen Colbert. Now is Jimmy Kimmel. 469 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 2: You remember, I think I've told you this. Jimmy Kimmel 470 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 2: once made fun of me on the air, and I 471 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 2: will never forgive him. 472 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 3: What did you do? 473 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 2: I was just hosting a television program and he decided 474 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 2: to clip it. 475 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 3: Did he play Guess What's in my Pants? With you 476 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 3: make fun of me? 477 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 2: No? It was National Talcolic Pirate Day. Oh, and I 478 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 2: talked like a pirate and he thought that was entertaining 479 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 2: enough to make fun of me. 480 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,479 Speaker 1: And did your life, I mean, were you flooded with 481 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: inundated with requests for autographs after my tional appearance. 482 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,479 Speaker 2: Is my five second appearance on his show? No, that 483 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 2: didn't have Did he say your name? 484 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: Did you get any cred like this is Casey Daniels 485 00:24:58,600 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: from such and such? 486 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 2: No, he clipped a bunch of newscasters from across the country. 487 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 3: Did you know what was coming? No? 488 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 2: I had no idea. 489 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 1: And just then somebody messaged you and said you were 490 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: on the Kimmel Show. Well, you tried to talk like 491 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: a pirate, so you got what you deserve exactly. 492 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 3: That is the dumbest and no offense. 493 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 2: But that was on me, right. 494 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 3: Sure you did the best you could with that. Did 495 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 3: you do that by choice or by force? 496 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 2: Well, it was I guess by choice, and you got 497 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 2: what you deserve. 498 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: Sorry, fact that we should have been humiliated more, you really 499 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: got off easy. 500 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 2: Well, we take care of that every day. Yeah. 501 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 3: Your punishment for that was you ended up here, all right? 502 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 3: So Trump, Okay, why this is? 503 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 1: This is the question to keep asking, like, why does 504 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: he focus on things like this? There's so many things 505 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 1: facing the country and yet tweets like this. The word 506 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 1: is and it's strong word at that? What does that 507 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 1: even mean? It's it's a strong word. The word is 508 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: the Jimmy Kimmel is next to go in the untalented 509 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: Late Night Sweepstakes, and shortly thereafter Fallon will be gone 510 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 1: I Love the Commas shortly thereafter. These are people with 511 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: absolutely and all caps no talent. By the way, we're 512 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: done doing the I Will Always Love You at the 513 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: Trump tweets until he's honest about Epstein. Yeah, we're just 514 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: we're done with that. Ok So that's why we're not 515 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 1: playing it anymore. This is the Epstein stuff has gotten, 516 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: which we'll get into later. Right, it's getting ridiculous. These 517 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 1: are people with absolutely no talent who are paid millions 518 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: of dollars for, in all cases, destroying what used to 519 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 1: be great television. It's really good to see them go. 520 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 1: And I hope I played a major part in it. Dude, 521 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: you're the president of the United States. 522 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 2: You think there's other things he should be focused on. 523 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a million things, Like, yeah, he's not wrong 524 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: about these guys and their damage they've done, but like. 525 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 3: It does where are you at? 526 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: I mean, it does bother me to some extent that 527 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: this is what the president spends his time focusing on. 528 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 2: Well, he's always had kind of that cantain chorous relationship 529 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 2: with media, which. 530 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 1: Is fine, but this, but you're the president. You can't 531 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 1: be unpresident. You're you can't run for another term. There's 532 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: nothing these people can do to you. Focus on the 533 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: business of governing. Focus on the business of governing the nation. 534 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, this to me is his ego talking partially 535 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 2: but also partially. I mean, you remember everything that the 536 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 2: late night shows were doing during COVID, with all of 537 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 2: the singing and dancing and wearing the masks and cheering 538 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 2: people on for social distancing. So I think there is 539 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 2: a part of it that says, you know what, these 540 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 2: guys have a platform and their message is wrong, so 541 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 2: they shouldn't be doing it. But he's calling him no talent. Well, 542 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 2: he's ripping on him for their abilities. 543 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: It's like, the problem with this is now everybody wants 544 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 1: to be Trump. 545 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 2: What which we've seen from the Secretary of State calling 546 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 2: us fake news. 547 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 1: Right and he sounds ridiculous. And why is Todd Roketa 548 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: not a senator right now? 549 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 3: Todd? You know why you're not a senator right now? Todd? 550 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: Because you ran for US Senate trying to be Donald 551 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: Trump and you look like a complete loser goof and 552 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: people looked at you are like, no, thanks. All these 553 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: politicians want to be Donald Trump. They picture themselves as 554 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: being Donald Trump. They think they sound like Donald You don't. 555 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 1: There's one guy at Donald Trump. It's this guy. But 556 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 1: the problem is now that everybody tries to emulate this. 557 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: Nobody's down with just governing. We're is doing the damn 558 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,959 Speaker 1: job anymore that you're sent out there to do. And 559 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: I just again, you're the president of the United States. 560 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: These guys have no power over you whatsoever. They're irrelevant 561 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: in what you're trying to accomplish or whether or not 562 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 1: you will accomplish the things. 563 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 3: Just focus on. 564 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 2: That, Okay. So CBS announced last Thursday that it was 565 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 2: going to cancel The Lights Show next May, end of 566 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 2: the broadcast season. They said that it was purely a 567 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 2: financial decision. It's been reported that the show loses around 568 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 2: forty million dollars a year. Kevin O'Leary, Now you know 569 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 2: this guy, he's mister Wonderful from Shark Tank. He was 570 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 2: on CNN, He's been on CNN a lot lately, and 571 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 2: they have this little back and forth and he's predicting 572 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 2: that CBS will actually fire Stephen Colbert before he can 573 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 2: finish out his contract. 574 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 7: He got fired before Trump said a word. Forty six 575 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 7: points actually. 576 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 2: For his firing. 577 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 3: Very explanation. Okay, let me respond to what you said. 578 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 3: Trump called for his firing last fall. 579 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 7: Just to be clear, let's talk about what actually happened. 580 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 7: Forty six point two million dollars in losses on a 581 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 7: franchise that's forty years old. It's old, it's dead, and 582 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 7: unfortunately for all of the category, people are geometrically not 583 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 7: watching late night TV anymore. Here's the problem for Colbert. 584 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 7: His contract is a payout contract through a transaction where 585 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 7: there's a change of control. Only a moron would tell 586 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 7: the president to f off before he gets his check. Okay, 587 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 7: so what's going to happen now? In my opinion is 588 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 7: tomorrow CBS, his boss will fire him and they will 589 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 7: litigate for the next five years. 590 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 4: Here is his payout, fire Hos Stephen. 591 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,239 Speaker 2: They're really going to this. 592 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: People never get it's just. 593 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 2: All that talking all at the same time. That was 594 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 2: that was entertaining. 595 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 3: It is part of a There is no hammer today 596 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 3: right now. 597 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 2: He's going to join us at the end of the show. 598 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: Okay, very good, So no next segment, so we can 599 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,479 Speaker 1: run just a little longer. The bigger problem here is 600 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: that mainstream media and I remember this conversation twenty years 601 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: ago when HD radio became a thing and it was 602 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: battling satellite radio at the time, and I remember that 603 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: the industry had the HD technology way before satellite became 604 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: a thing, and they sat on it and fought with 605 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: each other for a long time on how to dole 606 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: it out, who got the frequencies, how to do that, 607 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: And so I came along and took it from him. 608 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: What could have been theirs went to satellite radio. And 609 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: this is just the continuation of this where mainstream media 610 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: operates in some dinosaur like fashion where they're not nimble, 611 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: they're not able to keep up, they're not capable and 612 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: thus they're just getting they're just getting replaced. He's right, nobody, 613 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: they don't need this anymore. You've got to give the 614 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: people what they want. You've got to meet them where 615 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: they are. Why do people listen to this radio show 616 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: every day? We say things, and we talk about things, 617 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,239 Speaker 1: and we challenge people the way they're not going to be. 618 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: They're not gonna hear it anywhere else. You have to 619 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: give people something they can't get anywhere else, and Late 620 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: Night Talk is simply not doing anything that remotely resembles. 621 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 2: That you're listening to Kendall and Casey. It is ninety 622 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 2: three w IBC. 623 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: Just got this emountain oh okay, and I thought it 624 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: was perfect as into a bunch of things we've been 625 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: talking about today. Obviously, sort of the threat of our 626 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: show has been this just ridiculous performance yesterday by the 627 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:11,719 Speaker 1: Secretary of State Diego Morales at this Motor Vehicle Advisory 628 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: Board meeting where he launched into this fifteen minute rant, much. 629 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 3: Of it targeted at us. 630 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: We've also been talking about giving the people what they want, 631 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: about why we're so popular, and guys like Diego they 632 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: can't fathom it, like they can't process it. He doesn't 633 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: in his mind because he doesn't have the mental capacity 634 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: to figure out, well, if I go at these people, 635 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: I'm going at what should be the base of my audience. 636 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: Like he thinks he can just say something and people 637 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: are gonna be like, oh yeah, what we hear every 638 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: day is definitely not true because you said it in 639 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: a Motor Vehicle Advisory Board meeting and all it did 640 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: was create a firestorm or the media now and the 641 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: public is looking going. 642 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 3: What's wrong with this guy? 643 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 2: What are you talking about? 644 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 3: Right? 645 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: So we're lucky that in the case of someone like Diego, 646 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: you're not dealing with a MENSA member who doesn't know 647 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: how to handle things and he doesn't recognize the reason 648 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: we are popular is we say the things that people 649 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: think out loud. And so when we were talking about 650 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: last segment about why late night television is dying, why 651 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: a lot of traditional media is dying, but people like 652 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: us do well. So Dave, one of our loyal listeners 653 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: synthes email I thought it was perfect. He said, a 654 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: well executed bounced pass is effective because it's difficult to defend. 655 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: Coverage of the Morales story slash debacle began with WIBC, 656 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: inspired and distributed by the Kendall and Casey Show to 657 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: legacy and emerging news outlets who follow up with your 658 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: show to build out the story in facts. The informative 659 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 1: process has been missing from local news coverage for decades 660 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: at the exorbitant and dangerous expense of public awareness. 661 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 3: Views for dues ain't news. You've cracked the code. 662 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: To restore what's supposed to be local journalism, and let's 663 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: pray it's a restored pattern. Truth or facts are the 664 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: oxygen needed to sustain and engage public. Keep coding and 665 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: working the bounce pass. Wow, that was very nice and rebo. 666 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: Know Dave was one of the leaders of the Tea 667 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: Party movement in the mid two thousands. He was one 668 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:17,240 Speaker 1: of the leaders on the property tax movement. And Dave 669 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: is as conservative a Republican as you're possibly gonna get, 670 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: and he's saying what people are thinking, they're seeing through 671 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: like that response from Diego not normal. Don't know who 672 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,720 Speaker 1: barked at him yesterday? Yeah, don't know who put him 673 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 1: up to the mood. 674 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, such a flustered, frustrated state. 675 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: But when you can't guys like that, they don't know 676 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: how to be challenged. They live off the idea of 677 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: I show up and you smooch my butt cheeks because 678 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: I have this position. Well, when you don't fall in 679 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: line with that, and you just I mean, we're talking 680 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 1: about a question all the work talking, he's mad. We 681 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,760 Speaker 1: asked a question, which is who paid for this trip 682 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,879 Speaker 1: to India? And when you who come unhinged and call 683 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,919 Speaker 1: them fake news? What's fake news about asking who paid 684 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 1: for India? What is fake news about that? 685 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,800 Speaker 2: No, we just want an answer. And he walks around 686 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 2: saying that he's the most transparent administration. No you're not. 687 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 2: That's not being transparent when you won't answer the question, 688 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 2: when you just deflect and then say well I paid 689 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 2: it back, I paid for it. 690 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: We'll get into this little more next hour, because this 691 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 1: is a huge deal and we got the Epstein stuff 692 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: to get. 693 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 2: To right, we got we do. So we're going to 694 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 2: table the AI conversation just a little bit. 695 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 3: We'll get to that next hour to Yeah, you're. 696 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 2: Listening to Kenvil and Casey. It is ninety three WYBC