1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Live from ball Heartland and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: Tony Kats today. 3 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: You know, we uh, we deal with a lot each 4 00:00:55,880 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 2: and every day. We deal with some madness each and 5 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: every day. But I had absolutely no idea. I'm so 6 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: focused on getting ready. 7 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 3: For the show. 8 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 2: The reporting is just absolutely positively awful. 9 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 3: And you say to me, Tony, what are you? What 10 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 3: are you referring to? Tony? What do you what are you? 11 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 3: What are you talking about? 12 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I'm talking about, TMZ. The minute 13 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 2: you hear it, you're like, Oh, this is gonna be 14 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: this is gonna be bad. Yeah, it's gonna be awful. 15 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today. 16 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 3: Good to be with you. 17 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: Eight three three four six eight eight six six nine 18 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: eight three three. I got Tony TMZ reporting and they 19 00:01:54,120 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: could be wrong. I want them to be wrong. Hul 20 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 2: Cogan dead at seventy one, Ozzie and Hulk in the 21 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 2: same week. I can't even imagine that hul Cogan was 22 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 2: in anybody's deadpool. The reporting is cardiac arrests. Athardes went 23 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 2: to his home in clear Water, Ah. 24 00:02:50,919 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 3: That is a kick. That is a kick right there. 25 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 3: I mean, admittedly, The last time you saw him saw. 26 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 2: Him was during the campaign. During the convention he ripped 27 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 2: off the shirt. I had made the promise that if 28 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: he ripped off his shirt during the RNC. 29 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 3: I would buy everybody ice cream. 30 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: And he did it, and I literally had to give 31 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 2: away ice cream. It had to be where I lived 32 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 2: to get it. Listen, I can't. I can't drive it everywhere, 33 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 2: right I would. 34 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 3: I'm willing to Wow. I'm sorry. 35 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: I mean, I know we're we're supposed to saw in politics, Tony, 36 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 2: he's talk freaking Hogan. 37 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 3: That is nuts. 38 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 2: That is honestly, I'm not sure I could take much 39 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 2: more madness. 40 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 3: I need. 41 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: I wasn't gonna hit all the cultural stuff. Can I 42 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: hit you with three cultural things today that are unbelievab. 43 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 3: All right? 44 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: So first this this I didn't know the death of 45 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: Paul Cogan at the age of seventy one. 46 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 3: Then you've got the guys. 47 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 2: From South Park. Oh my gosh, Malcolm Jamal Warner, I forgot. 48 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 2: I forgot Malcolm Jamal Warner this week. I really am awful. 49 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 2: Thank you, Chatrian, I appreciate it. Then then you have 50 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 2: South Park. This is cultural things, not talking about just 51 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 2: everyone who has passed. South Park just signed a deal 52 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: Trey Parker, Max Stone. The deal is it with Paramount. 53 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 2: They are going to now be a Paramount now has 54 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 2: the ability to stream south Park. It's a five year 55 00:04:51,279 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 2: deal one point five billion dollars one point five million. 56 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 2: And I'm telling you right now, I think that Paramount 57 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 2: got off easy. 58 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 3: Oh. 59 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 2: I think South Park is worth way more than one 60 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: point five billion, because if we want to talk culture, 61 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: south Park still just knocking it out of the park. 62 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 2: I thought I had understood the culture war, and then 63 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 2: I saw the Book of Mormon and I said, I don't. 64 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 2: I don't understand anything. That thing is a work of art. 65 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 2: It is unbelievable. One point five billion dollars for south 66 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 2: Park and the the first south Park is lampooning Trump. 67 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 2: I mean, what is anybody anybody be on the pale? 68 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 2: Somehow people can be avoided? 69 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no no. 70 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 2: Everyone everyone takes their time in the barrel, right, everybody 71 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 2: takes their hits. But the one that has me kind 72 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 2: of a flummixed is Emmanuel Macron, the President of France. Seriously, 73 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 2: I was not planning on starring the show this way, 74 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 2: but the Whule Cogan thing just threw me, threw me 75 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 2: way way way off haul Cogan. According to TMZ, dead 76 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 2: at the age of seventy one. That's just nutty, that's nutty. 77 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 2: The President of France, Emmanuel Macron, has filed the defamation 78 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 2: law suit against Candice Owns. So this goes to what 79 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 2: can be described and discussed as a rumor. There are many, many, 80 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 2: many rumors out there. This is one of them. The 81 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 2: rumor is I thought I had my rumor music. 82 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 3: Do I not have that? I don't have to go 83 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 3: get that. The rumor mill is. 84 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 2: That the the wife of Emmanuel Macron, Bridget Macron, is 85 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 2: not a woman. That has been a rumor for nine 86 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 2: but jillion years. I've heard that a million times. My 87 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 2: problem is, and I mean this, I don't care. I 88 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 2: spend no time thinking about Emmanuel Macron. I don't spend 89 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 2: any time thinking about her, and I have. 90 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: No reason to believe the rumor is true. 91 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 2: No matter how she looks. I don't quite understand the relationship. 92 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 2: She is much older than he is. 93 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 3: This has been going on for years. It is very odd, 94 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 3: it is very. 95 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,239 Speaker 2: Awkward, It is very Roman Polanski ask in my view, 96 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 2: and then you could argue it is outrageously French. So 97 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 2: I guess Owens has been saying this a lot, and 98 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 2: so they're suing, saying that she has published at landish 99 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 2: tofamatory and far fetched fictions causing substantial reputational damage and 100 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 2: substantial economic damages. 101 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 3: I'm convinced that the only. 102 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 2: Reputation that Candace Owens has substantially or or successfully damaged 103 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 2: is her own. Because if you're still paying attention to 104 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 2: Candace Owens, there's something wrong with you. That that freak, 105 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 2: that clear uh let me go down the bigot hole 106 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 2: freak was given every opportunity and decided normal normals just dumb. 107 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 2: Let me be this person. It doesn't matter what it is. 108 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: It relates back to the Jews. That's that's that's that's 109 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: that's how these people spell it. I mean you, you're 110 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 2: sitting down with Nick Flentes to have a conversation. Chances 111 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 2: are you're not okay. Well hold on wait, I don't 112 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 2: think you're okay. She may be just fine. She's ridiculous. 113 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 2: Who I don't know who still follows her. I don't 114 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 2: know why people pay attention to her. Dopey as can 115 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 2: be as wrong as can be as it's not even 116 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 2: it's not even. 117 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 3: In the weeds. There was actually a really good post. 118 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 3: I should have reached out. 119 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: I should I don't know. Maybe she's available right now. 120 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 2: I'll text her. 121 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 3: Do you know the chicks on the right they used to. 122 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 2: Use nicknames Mock and Daisy. I don't know if they 123 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 2: still do anymore. Hold on a second, let me ask her, 124 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 2: are you available to come on air and talk about 125 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 2: Candace Owens? Because they they put out a post that 126 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 2: I guess I don't know. Candace Owens asked to interview them. 127 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 2: And they were radio hosts where my main station on 128 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 2: ninety three point one FMWIBC, but they were always bigger online. 129 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 2: I never understood why they even did radio. They could 130 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 2: just be doing podcasting, and now they're doing podcasting. It's fine. 131 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 2: And they were like, yeah, there's no point in doing 132 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 2: this interview. It was really a fascinating take. Their argument 133 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 2: was that what is the point of having this discussion, 134 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 2: of engaging this conversation. What's the point of doing this 135 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 2: with somebody who is not going to listen to you 136 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 2: and is going to put themselves in the pseudo intellectual minutia. 137 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 3: In an effort to. 138 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 2: Never actually engage and I said, well, I think this 139 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 2: is how a lot of people feel. I think this 140 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 2: is very much how we all discuss it so often 141 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 2: in our own lives. 142 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 4: And it. 143 00:10:55,920 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 2: Connected with another piece that exists a guy I don't 144 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 2: know by the name of Nick Fratus. 145 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 3: Is that his last name. He's a he's an assemblyment 146 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 3: in Virginia, and. 147 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 2: He's like, I think I have finally figured out the 148 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 2: left and this was a very very interesting, interesting take. 149 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 5: Listen, well, I think I'm finally able to define what 150 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 5: it is I've been experiencing for close to ten years 151 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 5: now whenever I get into a conversation with someone who 152 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 5: is woke. Now I don't mean someone who's liberal. I 153 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 5: mean someone who is proudly woke. You see, I'm trying 154 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 5: to debate and they are trying to diagnose. 155 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 2: Let me give you an example before you say that. 156 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 3: That's a really well stated moment. 157 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 2: There you're trying to debate and they're trying to diagnose you. See, 158 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 2: you are honestly engaging the conversation. They have decided there's 159 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 2: something wrong with you. It's it's This is very much 160 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 2: along the line of Charles Crowdhammer, the late Charles Crownhammer 161 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 2: the right thinks the left is wrong, the left thinks 162 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 2: the right is evil. 163 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 3: It's very much along those lines. 164 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 2: And what Nick is about to get into it, I 165 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 2: don't know anything else about the dude, is is this 166 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 2: true differentiation? 167 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 3: Listen, Let's say. 168 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 5: I were to say something crazy like I'm open to immigration. 169 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 5: I just think it should be legal. I also think 170 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 5: we need a strong border and we need significant immigration 171 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 5: reform before we continue. 172 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 3: Oh so you're xenophobic. No. 173 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 5: I don't have an irrational fear or hatred toward other 174 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 5: people or cultures. But I do believe the culture matters. 175 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 5: And if you're coming from a cultural tradition which has 176 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 5: very very different customs, traditions, and legal standards in the 177 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 5: United States, well that might not be the best for 178 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 5: social cohesion, especially when it comes in the form of 179 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 5: massive legal immigration. 180 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 3: Oh so you're racist. No. 181 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 5: No, I don't believe in the inherence, superiority, or inferiority 182 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 5: of any person based off of their race. I think 183 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 5: people should be judged based off of their individual actions 184 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 5: and character. But let me give you an example to 185 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 5: clarify my position. If you were to mass impoort people 186 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 5: from a country where they believe that it's perfectly reasonable 187 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 5: to criminally prosecute when for showing their hair in public 188 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 5: that might not lead to the best blending with American society. 189 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 5: You get what I mean? Oh yeah, so you're aslamophobic. Okay, 190 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 5: I see what you're doing. 191 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 3: Now. 192 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 5: This is not about even trying to understand my arguments 193 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 5: or perspective. This is all about trying to incorrectly diagnose 194 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 5: me so you can then ignore all of my arguments and. 195 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 3: Perspectives correct, super accurate, right on the money. There. 196 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 2: It is that same philosophy of what would be the 197 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 2: point of what's the point of listening to? Never mind 198 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 2: speaking with Candice OANs? What do you get a game 199 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 2: from that? There is no wind to be had. It 200 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 2: was interesting that the chicks and the right went down 201 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 2: that road, like what is the value here? Because I 202 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 2: thought I thought they said it, Well, what is the 203 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 2: value of doing this? I'm a guy who believes in conversation, 204 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 2: and we're going to get into to some of that. 205 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 3: What's the point of speaking to her if everything is. 206 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 2: Well, you know the Jews are, and well you know 207 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 2: Israel is, and well you know he is an agent. 208 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 3: Of masade into this, and then. 209 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 2: I don't think that Kansas is any more nutty than 210 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 2: Bridge McCrone. I don't think she's any less nutty than 211 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 2: Bridge of Macron. And is Candace a woman or a man? 212 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 2: I have absolutely no idea. I never looked, I never asked, 213 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 2: I never cared. I do, however, find it amazing that 214 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 2: people still follow her. She's got like six million online 215 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 2: followers there on twitter X. What what has she ever 216 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 2: offered you? What is she providing for you? The one 217 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 2: quick story I have I've never met her. 218 00:14:58,800 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 3: I'll tell you this story. 219 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: I was at an event where they were bringing her 220 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 2: in to speak, and I'm like, okay, but it ain't 221 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 2: gonna be interesting. 222 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 3: It's gonna be about her. It's not going to be interesting. 223 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: And they had a whole meet and greet before I 224 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 2: didn't move the five feet to go shake her hand, 225 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 2: No thank you. 226 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 3: And this was before everything fell off the cliff, and 227 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 3: sure enough the event will. 228 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, the event did sell out because 229 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 2: there was a lot of hope for Candice Owens, but 230 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 2: it was a lot about her, not about philosophy and 231 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 2: theory and where we're going and how we get there, 232 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 2: et cetera. 233 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 3: Nobody I think predicted. 234 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 2: I certainly didn't this fall off the cliff of sanity, 235 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 2: but I don't know what makes her somehow more sane, 236 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 2: more rational than Bridget Macrome. I'm also not sure how 237 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 2: the macarones are gonna sue and how they're gonna get 238 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 2: anything these public figures, et cetera. But just another bit 239 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 2: of of cultural madness going on. But as somebody mentioned 240 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 2: in the chat this week, this week we've lost Ozzy Osbourne, 241 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 2: theo Huxtable and now as of today, as TMZ is reporting, 242 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 2: Hulk Hogan. As Gary wrote, thank you twenty twenty five 243 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: for trashing my childhood. I should note Gary that we're 244 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 2: only halfway through twenty twenty five. Sorry, I'm Tony Katz. 245 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz. 246 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 3: Today. The story is. 247 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 2: The Columbia University is going to pay two hundred and 248 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 2: twenty million dollars to the federal government. Two hundred and 249 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 2: twenty million. This standoff with the Trump administration, the failure 250 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 2: to protect Jewish students on campus. Say it differently, to 251 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 2: protect students on campus. That's what they failed to do. No, wait, 252 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 2: that's not even right. They failed to protect the basic 253 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 2: standard of what the campus should be doing. 254 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 3: No, wait, that's wrong. 255 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 2: Columbia University proactively supported the supporters of terrorism and terrorists 256 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 2: engaging in terrorists like activities to intimidate students and threaten 257 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 2: students on their campus to keep them from speaking. 258 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 3: Tony, my god, you could go pro that's what they did. 259 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 2: The agreement says the university is going to pay a 260 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 2: two hundred million dollar settlement over the next three years, 261 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 2: an additional twenty one million to resolve alleged civil rights 262 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 2: violations against Jewish faculty members. You've got Columbia calling it 263 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 2: an important step forward, noting that it paves the way 264 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 2: for the reinstatement of the majority of the four hundred 265 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 2: million dollars in federal grants that the administration polled earlier 266 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 2: this year. I'm starting to see what it is that 267 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 2: William Jacobson, Cornell law professor, was saying when he wrote 268 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 2: Columbia one, if you don't understand why, then you don't 269 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 2: understand academia. 270 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 3: I remember he's Cornell law professor, and. 271 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 2: He's he is making an outrageously good point here that 272 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 2: I think has been missed in it all. 273 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 3: We'll look at this top line. Yeah, Colombia learned their lesson. 274 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 2: If you told me, hey, you give you two hundred 275 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 2: twenty million, I'll give you four hundred million. You know 276 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 2: what I would do, I'd give you two hundred twenty 277 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 2: million dollars. I'd give you two hundred and twenty million 278 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 2: dollars or not thing twice because the follow up is 279 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 2: what happens? 280 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: Now? 281 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 2: What's the penalty for this happening again? What changes are 282 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 2: made at Columbia? 283 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 3: And the answer is how if I know? Because it 284 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 3: doesn't seem like any changes have to be made. 285 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 2: You want to hold them accountable, that's one thing, but 286 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 2: you haven't really held them accountable. You held them pretend accountable. 287 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 2: Can't Columbia just go about being what it is, teaching 288 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 2: the way teachers in a different way with government money. 289 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 3: Now, Tony cash tod that. 290 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 4: So Samas, the vice president of the NA, will be here. 291 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 3: So we got to your unions that. 292 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 4: Represent many millions of teachers and paraprofessionals are going to 293 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 4: be here in a moment. Let me just start by 294 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 4: getting in a sense away from education a little bit 295 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 4: to say that it seems to me and I think 296 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 4: to most Americans that when we talk about the future 297 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 4: of our country, we are talking about our children. 298 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 3: And for those no, no, no, Bernie, you've got it wrong. 299 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 2: When we're talking about the future of education, we're talking 300 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 2: about our children, or in the future in general. When 301 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 2: you talk about the future of education, you're talking about 302 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 2: having control of our children. Do we see what's going 303 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 2: on here? Do we see the difference? Tony Katz, Tony 304 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 2: Kats today, Good to be with you, Bernie the socialist 305 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 2: from Vermont, Oh, I'm sorry, Democratic socialist? Sure, sure, whatever, 306 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 2: whatever dress up you want to play with the words booboo, 307 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 2: we know what's what. 308 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 3: We under. Leah Thomas can call himself lea all he wants. 309 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 3: We know Bernie can call him a himself a democratic 310 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 3: socialist all he wants. But we know. 311 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 2: They're they're having a whole thing about education. And they 312 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 2: started by cheering. Then e a, you mean the Becky Pringle. 313 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 3: Any a? 314 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 2: Do you mean the same Rebecca Pringle who says that 315 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 2: we have to be absolutely. 316 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 3: In love with the idea of DEI. We have to 317 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 3: adore the de I are are are this this one? 318 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 3: This any a? We cannot fear. 319 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 6: The future diversity, equity and inclusion. 320 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 5: Say the words, say the words, say you are powerful. 321 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 3: You are the ad moor head, hide old head, hide 322 00:21:54,240 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 3: any freedom? Oh freedom whosor lead? 323 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? YEAHA love it when someone channels their inner Howard 324 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 2: Dean and does it unabashedly. 325 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. I wouldn't let that woman educate my kids. I 326 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 3: don't want that woman anywhere near my kids nowhere near. 327 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,719 Speaker 2: So they want to have a conversation do these progressives 328 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 2: about education? 329 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 4: To proclaim great love for this country, one might think 330 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 4: that they would be doing everything that they can be 331 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 4: doing to improve the lives of our kids, all right, 332 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 4: And yet in America today, the richest country in the 333 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 4: history of the world, where we have massive income, wealth, inequality, 334 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 4: where the people on top have never ever ever had 335 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 4: it so good as a nation, and shamefully, we have 336 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 4: the higher rate of childhood poverty of almost any major 337 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 4: country on earth. And I am quite sure that every 338 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 4: teacher here runs into that poverty every day. Right. 339 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 2: I think you should take some of the money you've 340 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 2: made from your books and you should give it to 341 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 2: these kids. And maybe we'd have a better education system 342 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 2: if your wife didn't bankrupt colleges. I don't know why 343 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 2: he still goes down the road of discussing wealth inequality, except. 344 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 3: Of course that when you're a communist. 345 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 2: These are the things that you discuss if you believe 346 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 2: in Marxism, and you believe from each according to their measure, 347 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 2: to each according to their need. You believe that the 348 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 2: billionaire is evil. You believe that somebody who is wealthy 349 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 2: has gotten into an ill gotten gain. Remember that's a 350 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 2: millionaire talking to you right there, Fancy Mittens and all. 351 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 3: If you want to argue that wealth. 352 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 2: Gets passed down in such a way that people who 353 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 2: have it are able to further accumulate, you can. 354 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 3: You can discuss that. The problem is when you discuss 355 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 3: that as a problem, does. 356 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 2: The person who has accumulated wealth and has passed it 357 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 2: down in their generations to further accumulate the wealth. Have 358 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 2: they stopped you from accumulating wealth? What specifically has the 359 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 2: person done? Not the whole you know, broad brush of 360 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 2: the thing, right, the broad brush of the thing is 361 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 2: that somehow these people are guilty for their existence. Well, 362 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 2: isn't this what we see is as the problem regarding Dei, 363 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 2: which is what you just heard Becky Pringle say, we 364 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 2: have to have But she's not the only one from 365 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 2: the nea. You've got Aana Pressley saying we have to 366 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 2: have this, the congresswoman from Massachusetts. 367 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 6: Secutive orders dating back to Lynda B. Johnson in the 368 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 6: nineteen sixties civil rights movement, and. 369 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 2: In fact, before we go any further, because it is 370 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 2: you never know, finger on the dumb button producer land 371 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 2: and how do you feel about that? 372 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 3: That sounds excellent. 373 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 2: She is standing at a podium in front of the 374 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 2: Capitol with a sign that reads diversity, equity, and inclusion 375 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 2: are essential, and there's a bunch of people around her 376 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 2: holding science. Defend diversity. Diversity, equity, inclusion are essential, essential 377 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 2: for what. Well, they're essential for bigotry, They're essential for hate, 378 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 2: they're essential for sowing divisions amongst people. So the essential 379 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 2: for those things and defend diversity depends where If you're 380 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 2: saying that the laws of the land should apply equally 381 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,239 Speaker 2: to everyone, regardless of regardless of the color of their 382 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 2: skin or socioeconomic status, I'm all in. If you want 383 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 2: me to defend diversity. When it comes to doctors, I'm 384 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 2: not going to defend stupid doctors. I want smart doctors. 385 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 2: Diversity would be smart doctors and stupid doctors. I'm not 386 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 2: going to defend stupid doctors. I don't want any stupid doctors. 387 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 2: I also don't want any stupid school bus drivers. I 388 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 2: want people who know how to drive a school bus. 389 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 2: Defend diversity is a nonsense bit of terminology. They'll received 390 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:36,479 Speaker 2: little attention. 391 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 6: When I introduced an amendment to ban segregation, all the 392 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 6: Republicans in the House Oversight Committee voted against it. 393 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 3: The what the what the heck is she talking about? Segregation? 394 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 3: Came back? Hold on a second, Hold on? Can someone says, 395 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 3: Robert Bird still alive? Did he come back? We lost 396 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 3: hult COVID, we gained Robert byrd. That is a terrible 397 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 3: trade off. Segregate you. I have no clue. She doesn't 398 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 3: have a clue. It doesn't matter. 399 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 6: Trump and Republicans are trying to force their vision of 400 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 6: an embolden white supremacy. Is they work to undo centuries 401 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 6: of progress that generations of organizers, activists and lawmakers have 402 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 6: fought to achieve. 403 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 2: I ask you right now this conversation, can you explain 404 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 2: to me which voter she's going to pick up? Where 405 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 2: does the Democratic Party? Where do they grow? How possibly 406 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 2: do they build themselves from this place? 407 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 3: You can't. 408 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,239 Speaker 2: There's no place to go from here? You know, it's 409 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 2: the Buffy line, and where do we go from here? 410 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 2: That's right, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, because that was good TV. 411 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 2: Turns out Joss Whedon is a total freaking isn't going 412 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 2: to be directing any DC or Marvel films anytime soon, 413 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 2: but still incredible television, Sarah Michelle Geller, good on you. 414 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 2: They can't stop being weird, they can't stop being this 415 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 2: level of awful. And so Bernie Sanders believes that we 416 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 2: should be having a conversation about education. 417 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 4: I with Jo justin northern Vermont talking to teachers there, 418 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 4: probably at his summer camps, cool, hungry, not knowing whether 419 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 4: they're gonna get a decent meal during the day. The 420 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 4: kids coming from dysfunctional family, kids dealing with trauma every 421 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 4: single day. I guess who are the people the professionals. 422 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 3: Who deal with that issue. You are, and I thank 423 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 3: you for doing that. 424 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 4: But most importantly, that should not be what's happening in America. 425 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 4: We should have a generation of children who are blossoming, 426 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 4: who are growing, who are healthy, not children who are 427 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 4: living in poverty, not kids who are sleeping in cause. 428 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 2: Oh I don't disagree with that sir, we shouldn't have 429 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 2: a society where children are living in cars. 430 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't want that at all. 431 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 2: Nobody should. Nobody should want such a thing. We should 432 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 2: be absolutely opposed to that on every level. But this 433 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 2: is a conversation about education, right in the conversation about education, 434 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 2: does education mean we provide breakfast, lunch, and dinner or 435 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 2: are we really taking away the responsibility from parents? There? Oh, 436 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 2: I'm not saying there aren't parents who are having trouble 437 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 2: making ends meet. I am not saying there aren't parents 438 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 2: who are down their luck, and I'm not saying there 439 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 2: aren't bad parents. I believe all things are true, and 440 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 2: I'm not calling the first two groups bad parents. They're 441 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 2: trying and we should help them, and that's the role 442 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 2: of private charity. Is that really the role of the school, 443 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 2: because really, what you're saying is it's the role of 444 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 2: the state to take away the responsibility of the parents, 445 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 2: and that should. 446 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 3: Never be. 447 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 2: I don't think schools should be providing breakfast, lunch, and dinner. 448 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 2: Now school lunch, I understand the kids in school, but dinners. 449 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 5: No. 450 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 2: I think this is much more a move of the state, 451 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 2: through some screaming of socialist sorry communists, that we have 452 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 2: income inequality, and this is how we justify it. This 453 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 2: is how we rectify it through what I mean, what 454 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 2: else could it be. You've got these rich people who 455 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 2: don't care. That's what rich guy Bernie Sanders says. So 456 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 2: we have to help these people who are down on 457 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 2: their luck, and so the only way to do that 458 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 2: is through wealthy distribution. He doesn't even get to his 459 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 2: conversation about education, and he's already let you know that 460 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 2: the secret to whatever it is he's talking about is 461 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 2: you writing a bigger check and Bernie, with all the 462 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 2: goodness in his heart, deciding where that check goes. 463 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 3: These pinkos never change. I'm Tony Katz. I don't know. 464 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 3: Today is just awful. This is crazy. 465 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 2: First we get the news that Haul Cogan dead at 466 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 2: the age of seventy one. So we've lost Malcolm Jamal 467 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 2: Warner this this week in a drowning accident in Costa 468 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 2: Rica for his I'm Tony Katz alive and well, I 469 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 2: think Tony kats today good to be with you. We've 470 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 2: lost Ozzy Osbourne at the age of seventy six, just 471 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 2: weeks after doing that. Doing that that that charity concert, 472 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 2: his farewell, then Hault Cogan, and now Chuck Mangione dead 473 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 2: at the age. 474 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 3: Of eighty four. And you say to me, Tony, who 475 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 3: in the world is Chuck Mangione. Oh well, allow me, 476 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 3: won't you. That's Chuck Mangion. 477 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now, this has not been a 478 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 2: good week, not at all. The funny thing is everybody 479 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 2: knows the song the chat. 480 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 3: Room right now. 481 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 2: If you go to YouTube, you can get you to 482 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 2: the live stream and see the see the chat YouTube 483 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 2: dot com slash johny kats and. 484 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 3: Everyone's like, oh my gosh, I love this song. Yes, 485 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 3: yes you do. 486 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 2: By the way, the chat room is filled with protect 487 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 2: Willie Nelson at all costs and please watch over Dolly Parton. 488 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 3: Oh I don't you know, some days the politics lead but. 489 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 2: This is just crazy. I'm gonna let him play me 490 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 2: out right much more to get to keep it here 491 00:34:47,800 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 2: on Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today, After Reason, 492 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 2: when 493 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 4: The w