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Speaker 1: Chipmunks got it crossed up and decided that I needed

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Speaker 3: So excited, Jake, this is for us this is kind

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Speaker 3: And I think it's gonna be an amazing tournament this year.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there were different styles for sure, But I

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Speaker 2: So I don't think it's any great mystery.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, you watch them play, like you know,

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Speaker 3: they scored over ninety points against Wisconsin and lost on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: What's weird though, Dave in a row you know the

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Speaker 1: Dave Rebsen will be working round the clock on all

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm getting ready to buy my tickets for our

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Speaker 1: there or whatever. Never knew where it was because I

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Speaker 1: was just riding in the backseat of my parents' car,

436
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Speaker 1: and I'm like, wow, that's where Okay, you know that's

437
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 1: where Fulton is. Okay. And the same thing with the

438
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Speaker 1: NCAA tournament. There are universities out there that I guarantee

439
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Speaker 1: people are like, so that's where that school is. Give

440
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Speaker 1: me one off the top of your head. Yes, that's

441
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Speaker 1: a perfect example. Saint Peter's haven't hurt from him since, right,

442
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Speaker 1: the Peacocks, I mean, think about that, they went to

443
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Speaker 1: the Elite eight. Do you remember who knocked Saint Peter's out,

444
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Speaker 1: Who burst the bubble for them? Who ended the dream?

445
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Speaker 1: Who struck midnight for them? It wasn't Purdue, wasn't it. No,

446
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Speaker 1: they beat Purdue, that's right. I can't remember they beat

447
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Speaker 1: Purdue in the Sweet sixteen because it was like, oh

448
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 1: my gosh, Purdue. This is a given.

449
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Speaker 6: By the way, it's fitting that he mentioned high Point

450
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Speaker 6: because they're in the dance are dancing.

451
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just super high points to one where like

452
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Speaker 1: you go to school there, My buddy Scott is on

453
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Speaker 1: the board there, or he's a trustee. You go to

454
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Speaker 1: school that they got a laundry service and theaters in

455
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Speaker 1: the dorms isn't.

456
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Speaker 6: That where Tubby Smith ended his coaching career. That might

457
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Speaker 6: be right, But they've got a fellow on there, Jake.

458
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Speaker 6: His name is Chase Johnston. No, before you know, Jack

459
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Speaker 6: Golkie two point zero? Really this two eleventy threes has

460
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Speaker 6: taken four to two point shots all season?

461
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Speaker 7: How many three pointers is one hundred and thirty two? Okay?

462
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Speaker 1: Well?

463
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Speaker 7: How many is he hit? Sixty four? It's pretty solid.

464
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, Saint Peter's in their run. If I'm not mistaken,

465
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Speaker 1: they opened the beat Kentucky. They knocked out Kentucky and

466
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Speaker 1: we all laughed about it, and then I'll have to

467
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Speaker 1: look at who they knocked out and round in the

468
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Speaker 1: second round?

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Speaker 6: Were they Kentucky or was that Oakland Great? I think

470
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Speaker 6: that was or was it both both? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Look this up. Look up Saint Peter's run. I'm pretty

472
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Speaker 1: sure they opened against Kentucky and beat them. They had

473
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Speaker 1: an upset and round two. Then they went to the

474
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Speaker 1: regional semi finals and beat Purdue, and then in the

475
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Speaker 1: regional final game they got beat by North Carolina. I'm

476
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Speaker 1: ninety percent certain that's correct, but I can't remember who

477
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Speaker 1: they beat in the second round In their run. But

478
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Speaker 1: that obviously. Then their coach went to Seaton Hall and

479
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 1: they the guy with the dirty mustache got and nil deal.

480
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Speaker 1: He was one of the first to do so.

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Speaker 6: They did beat Kentucky. It was Kentucky. Murray State perdue

482
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Speaker 6: then lost to North Carolina. Okay, Murray State is the

483
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Speaker 6: one I forgot then? Was that John Rant's Murray State?

484
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Speaker 1: I don't think so. No, John Murrant would have been

485
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Speaker 1: in the league by then. Yeah, right, but that's Murray

486
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Speaker 1: State's another one. You know they had, They've had their moments,

487
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Speaker 1: right Tennessee Chattanooga one year with to O was on

488
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Speaker 1: that team. Going back years ago. Valpo was that team.

489
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Speaker 4: For a while.

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Speaker 1: It's great. That's the beauty. That's the thing I love

491
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Speaker 1: about all of it.

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Speaker 6: How about this John Nolan t of Stake. I think

493
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Speaker 6: he's been doing a bunch of these Horizon Leagues. But

494
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Speaker 6: John Nolan last night, yeah, I think he's been doing

495
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Speaker 6: the Horizon League games for ESPN Plus. Text me and said,

496
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Speaker 6: Chase Johnston began his career, I predue Fort Wayne.

497
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Speaker 1: Really, yeah, John Nolan, who is the voice of the Fever.

498
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Speaker 6: During his recruiting visit, John Nolan gave him a tour

499
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Speaker 6: of what I call Parkview Park.

500
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Speaker 7: Really, Huh, John Nolan's the guy that got him there. Yeah,

501
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Speaker 7: I guess so so.

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Speaker 1: John Nolan. Last night when I was at the Horizon

503
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Speaker 1: League games, came over, sat down next to us. You

504
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Speaker 1: want to talk about a guy that like a broadcast resume,

505
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Speaker 1: that's impressive because he does the Boom games, he does

506
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Speaker 1: the Fever games, he does Horizon League games. Native of

507
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Speaker 1: New Jersey, moved to Fort Wayne, and I got all

508
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Speaker 1: the respect in the world for anybody what I do

509
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Speaker 1: for a living and what people do within our field

510
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Speaker 1: for a living. I think there's a decide. Obviously, there's

511
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Speaker 1: a huge advantage towards doing it within your home market,

512
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Speaker 1: your hometown. I could not do this job in ninety

513
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Speaker 1: nine percent of all places because I wouldn't have just

514
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Speaker 1: the overall understanding of the market. And I have the

515
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Speaker 1: most respect in the world for people that come in

516
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Speaker 1: from elsewhere. Learn the market, understand it, get to know

517
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Speaker 1: the history, know the teams, know the personalities, and then

518
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,199
Speaker 1: become part of the fabric of it. To me, that

519
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Speaker 1: is a huge that should be the top of your

520
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:28,719
Speaker 1: LinkedIn account. I mesh with markets now in terms of

521
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 1: LinkedIn those players in the NFL that have their little

522
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: memo out there open to work. The Colts still have

523
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 1: some of them and some things to figure out, and

524
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Speaker 1: they obviously have made a couple of moves since we

525
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Speaker 1: talked to you last. We'll go over all of it,

526
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Speaker 1: will forecast where things may be headed as free agency,

527
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: the legal tampering or whatever it's called period is simmered

528
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Speaker 1: down just a little bit, but where we rehash all

529
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Speaker 1: of it and holder comes up top of the hour.

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Speaker 1: You know, one of the things I thought about with

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Speaker 1: NFL free agency, and I'm not saying this will not

532
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Speaker 1: be the case with Alec Pierce, or will be the

533
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Speaker 1: case with Alec Pearce, whichever way you want to look

534
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Speaker 1: at it, but I think there is a coincidence. I'll

535
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Speaker 1: say coincidence as opposed to irony, and the fact that

536
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Speaker 1: in order to at least presumably make room from a

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Speaker 1: salary standpoint or financial standpoint for Alec Pierce, the Colts

538
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,959
Speaker 1: had to find a way to get creative and then

539
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Speaker 1: part ways with Michael Pittman. And I said this yesterday,

540
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: but it bears repeating. Michael Pittman Junior. He was never

541
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Speaker 1: a totally glitzy, glamorous. You know, number one receiver in

542
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: terms of number one receivers are typically you know, the

543
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,719
Speaker 1: receiver position has a little bit of a diva nature

544
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: about it, right, a pizazz and a style to it.

545
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Speaker 1: And he was never that guy, but for a couple

546
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Speaker 1: of years there, he was the best that the Colts

547
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Speaker 1: had to offer. And in reality, if you are a

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Speaker 1: fan of the Colts and I don't know when the

549
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: Colts will again host Pittsburgh, you know, I'd have to

550
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Speaker 1: look at their schedule on what teams this year are

551
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Speaker 1: going to be home games. It wouldn't be Pittsburgh, presumably

552
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Speaker 1: because it's happened of late. But the bigger thing is,

553
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Speaker 1: you know, maybe it's a playoff game, whatever it might be.

554
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Speaker 1: But the reality is that if Pittsburgh comes back and

555
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Speaker 1: Michael Pittman Junior finds his way back into Lucas Oil Stadium,

556
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Speaker 1: he deserves a rousing ovation and a thank you.

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Speaker 7: Would you like to know who the home opponents are, Jake?

558
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Speaker 1: Which division do they play this year? Yeah, go ahead

559
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Speaker 1: and hit me.

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00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 6: The home opponents the Houston Texans, Jacksonville Jaguars, Tennessee Titans. Obviously,

561
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Speaker 6: the Baltimore Raymonds, Cincinnati Bengals, Miami Dolphins, Dallas Cowboys, New

562
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Speaker 6: York Giants.

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Speaker 7: There you go. Okay, they have to go to Pittsburgh again.

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Speaker 1: Colts fans that go to Pittsburgh for that game when

565
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Speaker 1: he's introduced should give him a hand because he played

566
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Speaker 1: hurt for the vast majority of the time he was here.

567
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Speaker 1: He just did. But again, this is a guy if

568
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Speaker 1: you think about it, the last time that we went

569
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Speaker 1: through this, the last time that we went through a like, gosh,

570
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Speaker 1: what are they gonna do? Are they gonna sign the guy?

571
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Speaker 1: Like they need to sign the guy? Make sure, Hey,

572
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Speaker 1: have you heard anything lately? What's the latest? Where's he

573
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: gonna sign? Where's he gonna go? It was probably Pittman.

574
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Speaker 1: And yet he doesn't see the lifetime of the contract.

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Speaker 1: I think sometimes in free agency what happens emotionally from

576
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Speaker 1: a fan standpoint and for that matter, media as well.

577
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: In free agency as this, we become more consumed by

578
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Speaker 1: the emotion of fear of what happens if you lose someone.

579
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Speaker 1: Then we do the realities of the excitement on what

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Speaker 1: it would mean to retain them. So with Alec Pierce,

581
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Speaker 1: who I think is a really good player, don't get

582
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Speaker 1: me wrong, But I still say that he is kind

583
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Speaker 1: of a luxury versus necessity because of the other pieces

584
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Speaker 1: that they have offensively, But with Alec Pierce, I think we,

585
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Speaker 1: as much as anything else, were judging that. And the

586
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Speaker 1: barometer for that was less about like they need to

587
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Speaker 1: retain Pierce because he's gonna get a thousand yards receiving

588
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Speaker 1: at one hundred and twenty catches and ten touchdowns. It

589
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Speaker 1: was less about that and more about what the optics

590
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Speaker 1: would be if they didn't get him, you know, But

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Speaker 1: I mean, like, gosh, you can't lose out on him.

592
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Speaker 1: Why not? You just can't. Well, okay, but for what reason? Well,

593
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Speaker 1: you gotta have this piece if you're going to move forward.

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Speaker 7: Okay, fine, let me ask you something.

595
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Speaker 6: Jake yes Holder reported yesterday that the Colts are going

596
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Speaker 6: to give him eight to ten targets per game. And

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Speaker 6: if you take his catch percentage into play and extrapolate

598
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Speaker 6: that over a seventeen game season, at eight targets a game,

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Speaker 6: would you take just under fifteen hundred yards at twenty

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Speaker 6: nine million, twenty eight whatever it is is? Is that

601
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Speaker 6: a receiver worth that much money?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 6: Okay, he would be on pace for twelve touchdowns and

604
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Speaker 6: there's like eighty catches or something like that if he

605
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Speaker 6: meets all those numbers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like I said, I think he's a

607
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Speaker 1: really good player. I mean, but what I'm saying is, yeah,

608
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Speaker 1: I look, I just think that we get every year

609
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Speaker 1: there's a free agent that you're like, they have to

610
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: get this guy, they have to get this guy, they

611
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: have to get this guy. And yes, it is grave,

612
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Speaker 1: you don't get me wrong. I mean, you'd rather have

613
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Speaker 1: it than not have it. But I think we fall

614
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Speaker 1: in love with and we've become obsessed by the fear

615
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Speaker 1: of not having it. In other words, yes, he's going

616
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Speaker 1: to get catches and he's going to get yardage Eddie,

617
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Speaker 1: but it's not like if he wasn't here, that wouldn't

618
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Speaker 1: go somewhere.

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean it just I get that.

620
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Speaker 6: But I think the dynamic of the offense would change

621
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Speaker 6: dramatically without Pierce. Because if you asked every defensive coordinator

622
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Speaker 6: that the Colts played last year, are you more afraid of?

623
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Speaker 6: Of course, Alec Pierce for the rest of the parts,

624
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Speaker 6: and they would say, alk Pierce.

625
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Speaker 1: But I agree with that. The interesting thing, though, is

626
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Speaker 1: simply the point that what you're afraid of is Alec

627
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Speaker 1: Pierce getting behind your defense and making the big play, right,

628
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: uh huh.

629
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Speaker 6: And he started to show last year that he can

630
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Speaker 6: start to slow down and get these outbreaking rounds.

631
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Speaker 1: Understood. Understood. But what I'm saying is that element of

632
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Speaker 1: the part that makes him different is something that you

633
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: all get like three to four times per and it's big,

634
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: but it's not like it's in other words, of his

635
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty catches, that's a lot. Let's say

636
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Speaker 1: he gets a hundred. If he gets one hundred catches, Okay,

637
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: of those one hundred catches, fifteen of them are going

638
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Speaker 1: to beyond thirty yards, not even that, probably ten, right,

639
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: the vast I mean, I think he's a wonderful player.

640
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: I mean, don't get me wrong. But what I'm saying is,

641
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Speaker 1: if you were to ask people which emotion in them

642
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: was greater, the excitement about what Alec Pierce can do

643
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: or the fear of rejection if he went elsewhere, the

644
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: second emotion was the greater emotion, the greater feeling within them.

645
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: But either way, the moves that also were made yesterday,

646
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Speaker 1: and I think I can't remember if this was just

647
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: before we were on the air, my timelines get mixed up.

648
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: But Quitty Pay, now basically we know out and you

649
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: get his replacement from Tennessee in Eddie. You tell me

650
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Speaker 1: if this is too harsh a way of saying it,

651
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: But basically what we say here is they just traded

652
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: a Honda Accord for a Nissan Maxima.

653
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 6: Have you seen the meme of the guy at Christmas

654
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 6: wearing like the maroon striped shirt and he's holding up

655
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:14,919
Speaker 6: the maroon striped shirt.

656
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 7: Yes, that is exactly what this is.

657
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 6: That's exactly correct, literally the exact same thing, except for

658
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 6: the fact that Ardine Key turns thirty.

659
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 7: That's the only difference.

660
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 1: I wild is Quity Pay.

661
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,959
Speaker 6: He's still relatively young, twenty six, twenty seven quit he pays,

662
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 6: you know, but man Vegas given him what three years

663
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 6: for for.

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Speaker 1: Trade. They let him go and then they replaced him, right, Yeah,

665
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: they replaced him at less cost in the case of

666
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: In the case of Quitty Pay, I'm happy for the guy.

667
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: I don't usually say that. I mean, I don't know

668
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: these guys. I don't know Quitty Pay for that matter.

669
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: But his story coming out of college was a pretty

670
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,959
Speaker 1: inspiring one just about his family background, his mom, everything else.

671
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: For him to get paid like that, I'm happy for

672
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: the guy. Good for him, right, good for him. The

673
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: we talked yesterday about the news with Zire Franklin. And

674
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: by the way, have you ever had the Sire sandwich

675
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: at Hogies and Hops? I am not. Oh, you know

676
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: he's a Philly guy. Yeah, and Philly steak and cheese.

677
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,919
Speaker 1: Of course that you know, that's the thing. So he's

678
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: got his own version of it. And I guess in

679
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: Philadelphia this is considered like sacrilegious. But he puts mustard

680
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: and ketchup on his Philly steak and cheese, and so

681
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: they have no Listen, I must know if I'm telling

682
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: you right now, if I brought you a Zire sandwich,

683
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 1: it's it is unbelievable, really good, mister gross. Okay, well

684
00:35:52,360 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: not like yellow mustard, yeah gross, but you like mayonnaise, right, yeah,

685
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: only disqualifying now that disqualified Mayday's on anything is horrific.

686
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: It's literally the it's the worst condiment known to man.

687
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 1: But that's where things stand. There have been no new

688
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: developments today in terms of information about anybody moving within

689
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: the NFL.

690
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 6: Correct not really. It's slowed down dramatically compared to yesterday.

691
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: And there is no new news on Daniel Jones. But

692
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: but I have a feeling when we get information on him,

693
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: it's actually going to be old news, not new news,

694
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: because we already know what's around the corner. And I

695
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 1: don't often say that, but I'm going to in this case,

696
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,439
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you what I mean by that and

697
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: why I feel that way. On the other side, hold

698
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: her top of the hour, Kravit's bottom of the one

699
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: o'clock hour here, and we're gonna go out west to

700
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 1: and talk take Athon. Loaded shows still remaining here Tuesday edition,

701
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: Querying Company. Eddie's favorite band? Who's that BANDY played last

702
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: int Eddie? That would have been the Rolling Stones? That

703
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: was it?

704
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 4: Really?

705
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 7: Yes, it didn't sound like the Rolling Stones. That was

706
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 7: the Rolling Stones?

707
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 4: Uh huh?

708
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 6: Maybe I met two songs ago. Well, two songs would

709
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 6: have been the show open.

710
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: I would know the Rolling Stones, I would think, right,

711
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 1: I saw the Stones at what's your level of fandom.

712
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 7: For the Rolling Stones? Yeah, I don't know.

713
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 1: I mean it's there are they would you agree with

714
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 1: me on this? I mean they're one of those bands

715
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: like for example, I saw them. Okay, yeah, you can

716
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: absolutely tell it's Mick Jagger. Yes, the very beginning of it,

717
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: though the instrumental part I didn't recognize.

718
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 6: I'm surprised you didn't recognize this song. It's in a

719
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 6: show that we love, Jake.

720
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: Is that in Lasso?

721
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 4: It is?

722
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, now that you mentioned it, do you know do

723
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: you know which scene?

724
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 6: No, it's the scene where Roy can't decides he wants

725
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 6: to go into coaching, so he's leaving the set as

726
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:01,240
Speaker 6: a Pundit.

727
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 7: Got heads to the pitch right before the start of

728
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 7: the game.

729
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: What a great show. When does season three come out?

730
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: For that?

731
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 7: That's a great question.

732
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: I don't know that. The one problem I have, as

733
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: I mentioned.

734
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 7: Before season three or season four. I think it's season four.

735
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: Four, That may be right, Yeah, yeah. The one problem

736
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: I have with any of those shows, any streaming show,

737
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: is by the time the new season comes out, you're like,

738
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: I mean it's a complete completely forget. I mean like

739
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: Landman is going to be on a year break, right.

740
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 7: That's why I'm rewatching tell us all right now.

741
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a great show, no question about it.

742
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: And when you when you watch shows, when you rewatch it.

743
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: But because there's going to be a big gap between

744
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: seasons is oftentimes when you can look back and you say, oh,

745
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: I'd forgotten that little clue, or now it makes sense. Gosh,

746
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,240
Speaker 1: how did I not see that.

747
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 7: Happen August of this year?

748
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 4: Okay?

749
00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: And I mentioned yesterday and I'll repeat it today. When

750
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones comes to an agreement with the Colts, I

751
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: think we're going to look back and say we knew

752
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: that when Alec Pierce agreed. I know at this point

753
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: I'm beating a horse to the point where it's glue.

754
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: But I firmly believe that Alec Pierce does not agree

755
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: to that contract. And he said it, he said yesterday

756
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: that he believes Daniel Jones is about to sign a

757
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: deal that would appear to be inevitable. I just don't

758
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: see how he doesn't do so, how he doesn't come

759
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: to or how he comes to an agreement without how

760
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: he does not have that information that Daniel Jones is

761
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: going to be his quarterback. Now the question then becomes

762
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: in terms of the health, how healthy is Jones going

763
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 1: to be? Certainly, if you look at the example of

764
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,439
Speaker 1: different sport, different range of motion, different everything, but look

765
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:03,240
Speaker 1: what Jason Tatum's doing, and that's coming off of an Achilles. Now.

766
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 1: Ralph Reef told us, and it's a really good point

767
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: that where the terror takes place with then Achilles can

768
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: also impact the time frame needed for recovery. And I

769
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: think he had said with Halliburton for example. And I

770
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: don't want to misquote Ralph here, but when he was

771
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: on the show, I believe Ralph Frief had said that

772
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: the higher up it is, the easier it is to

773
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: repair because blood it's more easily accessible to blood flow,

774
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: which brings you know, all the nutrients, oxygen, whatever else

775
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,760
Speaker 1: to begin the repair process. I don't know where Daniel

776
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: Joneses was versus Tatum, whatever else, but you look at

777
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: Jason Tatum, Eddie, Let's be real. I mean, he is

778
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: playing right now at a level that exceeds I think

779
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 1: what most people would expect. I mean, didn't we say

780
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: when he came back, like, oh, he'll play fifteen minutes

781
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: a night. Well, they're basically I.

782
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 6: Thought he would play fifteen to twenty. They would like,

783
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 6: maybe give him up to thirty max for the rest

784
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 6: of the season, but they've got him at twenty seven minutes.

785
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 6: Each of the first two games. And he's looked solid.

786
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 6: He's looked pretty good. He looked very good. Yeah, I

787
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,919
Speaker 6: thought your mic was off. I know, you know, there's

788
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 6: a little there's a button down here that mutes the head.

789
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 6: So interesting and it's very easy for my need to

790
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 6: hit that sometimes. We do have a update on the

791
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 6: Pittman delio. Okay, Albert Brito Sports Illustrated said the Colts

792
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 6: received a six round pick and gave up a seventh

793
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 6: in Pittman.

794
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: So there you go, and they got Also we now

795
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: know that they in terms of the compensatory picks what

796
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: the Colts received, right.

797
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 7: Yeah, two seventh round picks.

798
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: And that's I think Ballard likes those picks. Now when

799
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 1: it comes to seventh and eighth rounders, one of the

800
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: strategies that comes into play is this, you need to

801
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: hit on those picks. And I've never understood. And this

802
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: would be a good conversation perhaps with Krabatz coming up

803
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 1: at one thirty. Bill Pollyan, for example, if you look

804
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 1: at the Colts and if you're talking about the glory

805
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: years in terms of the number of big ticket items

806
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: on one roster, Antoine Bethey was a great player Kathea. Yeah,

807
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: depending on which season it was. But guys like Jason

808
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: David and oh what was the corner's name out of

809
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: Penn State? David not David Thornton. He was the linebacker.

810
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: But there was anyway, guys that were like six at

811
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,959
Speaker 1: Brad Scioli he was a fifth rounder, Guys that were

812
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: second and third day draft picks in today's terms that

813
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 1: made the roster and were solid players. How much of

814
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: that was that they hit on those guys and that

815
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: was a really smart pick versus you had so much

816
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: money wrapped up into your top ten percent of your

817
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: talent pool. So if you had, like in the Colts'

818
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 1: glory years between Manning Freeny, Wayne Harrison, Edgrin Dallas Clark, mathis,

819
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: you had so much money tied up. You had like

820
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,720
Speaker 1: ninety percent of your salary cap tied up into fifteen

821
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: percent of your roster. So as a result, you had

822
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: no choice but to round out your roster in certain

823
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 1: spots with rookie contract lower rookie contract players. So were

824
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: the Colts in reality hitting on these draft picks that

825
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: were brilliant picks that they were placing and scattering throughout

826
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: or did they simply need from a financial standpoint, to

827
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 1: bury a couple of positions here and there that no

828
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: one would notice that were subpar players, but your top

829
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: fifteen percent were so strong that it masked that you

830
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: had deficiencies in those areas. I've never really understood or

831
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 1: been able to figure out which of those two is

832
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: the more applicable truth. But now what we do know

833
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: is that Chris Ballard loves those sixth, seventh, eighth round guys.

834
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: Look at Zire Franklin, who was a really solid player

835
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: for them, and he was not a first or second

836
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: round pick. They have hit on those. As a matter

837
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 1: of fact, you could make the argument the Colts probably

838
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: have hit more on second or late you know, second

839
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: third day guys than they have even first rounders. In

840
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: the last hand handful of years. There have been a

841
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: couple there are a couple of drafts that the Colts

842
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: had that it is like o woof big swings and missus.

843
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: Steven Holder has been monitoring very closely the hour by hour,

844
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 1: minute by minute of the Colts throughout free agency, and

845
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: he will join us to update us next. Hell yeah,

846
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 1: let's party like it's the who here's your own baby,

847
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: Colt's just scored a touchdown, fire up the best of

848
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:12,720
Speaker 1: eighty five. Do they still play this at games? No?

849
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 7: No, don't anymore. They stopped that. I think it was

850
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 7: like two three years ago.

851
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: Only forty two years pasted its expiration date? Did they

852
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: stop doing that? Somebody just asked me the question. By

853
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 1: the way, hey, Jacob, Miami, Ohio loses in the MAC Tournament,

854
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: are they still in the NCAA Tournament. I know I've

855
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 1: addressed this before, but yes, absolutely. Since nineteen seventy six,

856
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: there have been a total of six teams six to

857
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: run the table and go undefeated. Six. You have a

858
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: point zero zero four percent chance of that happening. If

859
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: you go undefeated in your regular season, I don't care

860
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: who you played. It's only happened six times in fifty years.

861
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: That merits you an auto bid to the NCAA Tournament.

862
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: You could either win your conference tournament or you can

863
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 1: go unblemish in the regular season. Those are the two

864
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: tickets towards getting in, and that's Miami of Ohio, not

865
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Speaker 1: Miami of Florida. Yes, Eddie.

866
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 6: And the other thing about add two, Jake, is if

867
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 6: we're like splitting hairs here and like, hey, is it

868
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 6: a Indiana? Is it you know, five hundred Auburn getting

869
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 6: into the field, Like, what are we doing here?

870
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: Right? Well, at that point, you again, do you.

871
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 6: Have to put a value on teams being able to

872
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 6: just pull out victories like they have, even if you

873
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 6: considered it a little bit fluky and lucky like.

874
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: Chicago, I mean Miami. Yeah, listen, it's a terrible bubble

875
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: this year. Miami, Ohio is in based on the fact

876
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: that they did not lose in the regular season. That

877
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: merits you getting in. And if you go to school there,

878
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 1: they have t shirts everywhere that say Miami was a

879
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: school before Florida was a state, because not to be

880
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: confused with Miami of Florida, which is the alma mater

881
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: of our next guest, he joins us on the Java

882
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 1: House Colbrew Coffee guest line from ESPN. Stephen Holder joining

883
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: us Stephen latest as of right now Colts Free Agency

884
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 1: is what.

885
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 4: Well, first of all, that was one hell of an introduction.

886
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 4: Thanks for that. So we're doing okay by the way

887
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 4: down there at you know, you know, very young University

888
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 4: of Miami. That's right. But nineteen twenty five, baby, is.

889
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: That when it started nineteen twenty five.

890
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 4: I think that's right. Yeah, so we had in fact,

891
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 4: they had they had the centennial last year, so we

892
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 4: made made the college football Championship in the centennial years.

893
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 4: So I don't know, maybe something to that. Colts. So

894
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,439
Speaker 4: they're quiet, at least officially for right now, but they're

895
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,879
Speaker 4: certainly they're certainly working behind the scenes trying to get

896
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 4: some things done. I mean, obviously the big one is

897
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones. I know that they want to get that

898
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 4: squared away now. What I will tell you though, is

899
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 4: that there's from the player's perspective, maybe not the most

900
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 4: urgency to get that done right now, because you know,

901
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 4: it's not like when you're an unrestricted free agent and

902
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 4: you're kind of working against the clock because as those

903
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 4: big dominoes fall, the money starts to dry up. Well,

904
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 4: the Coats have already allocated money for Daniel Jones here,

905
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 4: So what they're doing is they're quibbling over how much

906
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 4: or how much you know, per year, what are the guarantees,

907
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,879
Speaker 4: et cetera, et cetera. But they've already allocated a fair

908
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 4: amount of money, that money that they tendered him with

909
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 4: the with the transition tag. That's already going to be

910
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 4: counted officially against their cap It's it's like a it's

911
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 4: like a credit card. Hold, you know what I mean,

912
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 4: when you swipe that card at the hotel. So it's

913
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 4: already started accounted for. So if you're if you're Daniel Jones,

914
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 4: you can keep you know, sort of dragging this out

915
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 4: if you want to. I'm not suggesting that's what's going

916
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 4: to happen, but I'm just saying that's the thing to

917
00:48:58,440 --> 00:48:59,959
Speaker 4: keep in the back of your head. If you see

918
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 4: this not happening in the next day or so and

919
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 4: you wonder what's going on, that might be what it is.

920
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 4: You know, he's just gonna say, I can just keep this,

921
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 4: you know, just keep the negotiation going until I get

922
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 4: what I want, or at least get closer to what

923
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 4: I want. But he will be here. It's been clear,

924
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 4: It's been made clear to me, and that is going

925
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 4: to happen. I would say beyond that, the thing that

926
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 4: I'm watching for now is is there another move at

927
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,720
Speaker 4: defensive end and certainly linebacker. Those are the two spots

928
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 4: that I think they have to hit sooner than later.

929
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: The Zire Franklin trade in bringing in a player who

930
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: plays on the defensive line looks like a run stopper,

931
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: not necessarily a pass rusher, per se. Is this a

932
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: Grover Stewart insurance policy?

933
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's how i'd phrase it. I

934
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 4: just I don't know how they see him.

935
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 2: Yet.

936
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 4: I think I think he's an interesting player. He has

937
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 4: one more year left on his on his rookie contract,

938
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 4: and I think they want to take a look at him.

939
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 4: It's possible. Look, I can't guarantee you that they're not,

940
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 4: you know, looking at it with that sort of formula.

941
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 4: But I still lean toward believing Grover Stewart will be here.

942
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 4: But you know, look, I mean they have they certainly

943
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 4: have a lot of things to deal with contractually, and

944
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:20,399
Speaker 4: you know.

945
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 3: I can't.

946
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 4: I can't guarantee that, you know, I just can't right now.

947
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 4: So we'll see. I think that they can both co exist.

948
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 4: I mean, this guy is a from a body type.

949
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 4: He doesn't look anything like Grover Stewart. He's about two

950
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 4: hundred and seventy five pounds right much Stewart center, right, yeah, La.

951
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 4: Even though even though he is he has been at

952
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 4: least more of a run stopper. He has the profile

953
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 4: at least a body type of more of a pass

954
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:51,399
Speaker 4: rushing interior defensive tackle. So I don't know how that's

955
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 4: going to square and I don't know what he'll look

956
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 4: like in lou Ana Rumo's scheme as well. So lots

957
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 4: of unanswered questions there.

958
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: I'd say, Steven when you look. Stephen Holder is my

959
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,760
Speaker 1: guest ESPN dot com, where you can read his work,

960
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: one of the A couple of things back to the

961
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: quarterback situation. We assume that Daniel Jones at the beginning

962
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: of the year is going to be ready to go

963
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 1: from a health standpoint. We assume that we assume that

964
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is also going to be under more than

965
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: just the transition tag, and he's going to be a

966
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 1: cult With those assumptions, Are we now passed the assumption

967
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 1: that they may go out and get themselves a veteran

968
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: insurance policy backup Gardner Minshew's already signed. I believe with Arizona,

969
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: you know, those that kind of a guy. I think

970
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: there was a fleeting thought that that was somebody they

971
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: could go for for short term rental donut tire quarterback.

972
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 1: Are we past that point or are they could they

973
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:50,919
Speaker 1: still go with Anthony Richardson there.

974
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 4: Well, I don't think Richardson is in the picture. I

975
00:51:55,600 --> 00:52:00,760
Speaker 4: don't think that's changed. I would say I can't close

976
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 4: the door on it completely, but I don't anticipate it.

977
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 4: I think they have gotten their head around the idea

978
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 4: that Riley Leonard can step up and be the number two. Now,

979
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 4: the question for me is how confident are you that

980
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones is going to be ready. I mean, they

981
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 4: have more information than you and I. Right, they're with

982
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 4: him in the building every day as he's rehabbing, because

983
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 4: I believe he's doing that here in Indy. That was

984
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 4: that was the expectation. So they're training staff and rehab

985
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 4: people are with him every day and are charting that progress.

986
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 4: They can probably you know, sort of sort of you know,

987
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 4: target a ballpark for him to be back. So they

988
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 4: have a lot of information about that. But I still

989
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 4: think there's at least a little bit of doubt there.

990
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 4: I mean, you can't you can't just rubber stamp it.

991
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 4: I mean, this is a very serious injury. So I

992
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,959
Speaker 4: do think there's at least a little bit of possibilities.

993
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 4: This guy's not ready to start the season. I mean,

994
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 4: you at least have to leave open the possibility, right

995
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 4: that is at minimum, with you have how you have

996
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 4: to operate here, So that being the case, I think

997
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:13,479
Speaker 4: you have to really be sure that Riley can step

998
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,280
Speaker 4: up if he needs to play a couple of games.

999
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 4: But everything that I've heard suggests to me that they

1000
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 4: believe that, and so we'll see if that changes. But

1001
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 4: I'm operating under the assumption that Riley Leonard will get

1002
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 4: the call.

1003
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,760
Speaker 1: Is there any market for Anthony Richardson?

1004
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,800
Speaker 4: It's not a big one, but I think to really

1005
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 4: answer that question, we just we need the rest of

1006
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 4: these quarterback dominoes to fall, and they are falling. You know,

1007
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 4: you saw Tua obviously wind up in in Atlanta. You

1008
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 4: know what happens with Kyler Murray for example. Or there's

1009
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 4: a few dominoes that got to fall before you get

1010
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 4: to Anthony Richardson. He's just further down the pecking order

1011
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 4: that he just is. Right, So it remains possible there's

1012
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 4: not going to be a trade market like that's a

1013
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 4: real possibility here. So I don't want anybody to expect

1014
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 4: or assume that they're going to get, you know, a

1015
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 4: pick of some value. They may not, right I mean,

1016
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 4: if enough other dominoes fall at quarterback, then then you

1017
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 4: don't have really a market that materializes there. And there

1018
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 4: are some drawbacks, right the injuries, certainly up and down performance.

1019
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 4: There's upside because he's still twenty four, and you know

1020
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 4: there's a lot more that you can maybe tap into.

1021
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 4: I get all that, but you know there's It really

1022
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:37,439
Speaker 4: boils down to how many teams are interested and willing

1023
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 4: to overlook the downside. So that's just the reality of it.

1024
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 8: Now.

1025
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 4: What I'd say is that I do think there's a

1026
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 4: couple opportunities. One is right now as these free agency

1027
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 4: moves sort of pan out. The other is closer to

1028
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,439
Speaker 4: the draft or even during the draft, And we've seen

1029
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 4: a lot of deals happen even for quarterbacks around draft time.

1030
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 4: So maybe you're a team that goes into the draft

1031
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 4: hoping you can land a quarterback, Maybe you don't get one,

1032
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 4: you know, maybe a quarterback who can compete, and maybe

1033
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 4: if you don't get him, or you don't get the

1034
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 4: guy you want, then you become a player for Anthony Richardson, right.

1035
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 4: So so I just think it just depends on what

1036
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 4: the landscape is and those other moves that need to

1037
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 4: happen first.

1038
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 1: So if they do not find a suitor for Anthony Richardson, period, Yeah,

1039
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 1: what happens.

1040
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 4: I think they cut him. That I believe they will

1041
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 4: cut him. Yes, it it's not you know, it's not what.

1042
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 4: It's not the ending that anybody would want. I mean,

1043
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 4: for the Cols, you're saying it didn't work and we

1044
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 4: give up, right, which is a bad look for them.

1045
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,720
Speaker 4: For the player, you know, you don't like getting cut. However,

1046
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 4: I'd say this, if you're Anthony Richardson, that might be

1047
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 4: a better option because then you're not inhibited by trying to,

1048
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 4: you know, work a deal or anything. You can just

1049
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 4: go wherever you want, right, So that might that might

1050
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 4: not be the worst outcome for Anthony Richardson. But I

1051
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 4: do believe both sides have agreed that this thing has

1052
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 4: run its course. You know, we could argue about whether

1053
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 4: they should have waited to make that decision. I think

1054
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 4: from a pure football perspective, from a pure business perspective,

1055
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 4: they maybe should have waited till the dust settled with

1056
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones and until they're sure about maybe more sure

1057
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 4: about his timeline and all of that. But I also

1058
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 4: think what's happening here is they don't want to hold

1059
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,359
Speaker 4: him hostage, and so to some extent, they're doing him

1060
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 4: a favor. They are doing him a favor by allowing

1061
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,359
Speaker 4: him to look around and to gauge interest and at

1062
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 4: least sending the signal to him that you're going to

1063
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 4: be able to go out there and start anew somewhere else.

1064
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: Are the Colts still in play for Trey Henderson?

1065
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 4: The million dollar questions, Well, really it's a lot more

1066
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 4: than a million. It's I don't know, maybe like thirty million.

1067
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 4: I don't know, but I haven't gotten a good read

1068
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 4: on it. To be completely honest, there's not really any

1069
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 4: read on Trey Hendrickson. I mean, do we have any

1070
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 4: sense who's in on him? I don't, you know, and

1071
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 4: I'm not.

1072
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: There have been a couple of teams lenked, but I

1073
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: don't you know what I mean.

1074
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 4: Right, But I mean we're not you know, why hasn't

1075
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 4: anything happened, right? I mean that kind of thing, right,

1076
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 4: We've seen, We've seen a lot of the big dominoes

1077
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 4: have fallen in free agency already. I believe Adam Schefter,

1078
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 4: my colleague, was made mention that that this might take

1079
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 4: a little bit. You know that he might take his

1080
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 4: time in making a decision. He clearly is by virtue

1081
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 4: of him holding out last year. I mean, he's not

1082
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 4: a guy that is unwilling to play hardball, very clearly, okay,

1083
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 4: And I'm not against it. I mean, I'm all for

1084
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 4: players making as much money as possible. I'm just giving

1085
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 4: you the landscape here. I think that's a reality, is

1086
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 4: that he is willing to drag this out from all appearances,

1087
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 4: I think for the Colts, and we are not sure

1088
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 4: on their level of interest. Were they interested last season

1089
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 4: when he was on the market, when the Bengals were

1090
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 4: at least entertaining offers or considering offers, they were interested. Yes,

1091
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 4: the asking price on the trade was too high. They

1092
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 4: just they it was a non starter for the Colts,

1093
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 4: so it didn't go anywhere. Okay, So that's what happened there. Now,

1094
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 4: of course, now you can just sign them out, right,

1095
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 4: you don't have to worry about that. Not being said,

1096
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 4: he's had another injury, he's a year older. I would

1097
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 4: have trepidation, That's all I'm saying. Depending on the cost.

1098
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 4: It all boils down to costs, right, and what are

1099
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 4: the guarantees what are my protections? Excuse me? I think

1100
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 4: you have to really deliberate over that. As much as

1101
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 4: they do need to help, all I'm saying is they

1102
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 4: can't be reckless here. But they're going to lay out

1103
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 4: a ton of cash. One cash for Alec Pierce, presumably

1104
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones. I mean, a quarterback contract of that value

1105
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 4: is gonna have a big signing bonus. And then to

1106
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 4: also throw into that pot Trey Hendrickson, who would want

1107
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 4: a big signing bonus? You're talking about a ton of cold,

1108
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 4: hard cash. Forget about the signing, the salary cap, that's

1109
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 4: not even important. They can they can tweak that, they

1110
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 4: can fake that. It's bs anyway. It's the cash that

1111
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 4: you've got to dole out with that check on day one.

1112
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 4: That's a big check to write, or several checks. So

1113
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 4: I think that's the key factor there for me. Do

1114
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 4: they have the stomach for something like that?

1115
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 1: How does Alec Pierce as a receiver? Steven Holder my

1116
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 1: guest from ESPN, How does Alec Pierce as a receiver

1117
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 1: change without Michael Pittman Jr. On the field.

1118
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 4: A fair amount? I think I would I would expect

1119
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,919
Speaker 4: his role is a pretty good bit and here's how

1120
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 4: A lot of the a lot of the time last year,

1121
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 4: earlier in past years, Alex Pierce, a majority of his

1122
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 4: rooks were in the field. Now he seems to run

1123
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 4: a lot abouts because otherwise you're not getting you're not

1124
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 4: getting the stout of Vallet Pierce because that's vugerous. But

1125
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 4: he's going to have to run a bigger route for

1126
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,439
Speaker 4: this and he can do it. I saw him this year,

1127
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 4: I think, really expand his route diversity and be very

1128
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 4: effective in the middle of the field in traffic against contested,

1129
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 4: contested throws. I liked what I saw there, and I

1130
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 4: think there's more on the bone. I think he can

1131
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 4: he can go to another level there. He's gonna get

1132
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 4: more opportunities, no question about it. He was fourth on

1133
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 4: this team in targets last season, fourth okay, behind Pittman,

1134
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 4: Tyler Warren and Josh Downs. Now, I'm not saying he's

1135
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 4: going to double his targets or anything, but he's definitely

1136
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 4: going to see a big increase and the question is

1137
01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 4: going to be what can he do with those Now.

1138
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 4: A lot of the time Michael Pittman was getting plays

1139
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 4: drawn up for him that were schemed up and you

1140
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 4: see them. You know, there were plays that were meant

1141
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 4: to go to him a lot of the time with

1142
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 4: with with Pierce, they may dial up a shot play

1143
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 4: for him, but oftentimes it is dependent on coverage or

1144
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 4: this or that, and you know what's the front all

1145
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 4: these different things, Right, can you protect all these things?

1146
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 4: I think he'll have to rely less on those aspects

1147
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 4: and maybe they can scheme him up a little more

1148
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 4: to get him more involved in games, you know, where

1149
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 4: he maybe doesn't touch the ball as much. Last, so

1150
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 4: I think you have to Otherwise, why the hell are

1151
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 4: you paying him twenty nine million.

1152
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 1: Dollars Stephen Finally, non Trey Hendrickson, non Daniel Jones department,

1153
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 1: you are keeping your eye on what Colt's story here

1154
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 1: over the next couple of days.

1155
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 4: Well, I think I think it's the defense is really

1156
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 4: for me, the whole ball wax. I mean, I think offensively,

1157
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 4: we didn't have real big questions about that beyond Daniel

1158
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 4: Jones health, right, even by subtracting Michael Pittman. I'm not

1159
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 4: saying I'm not saying it's nothing, but I think they

1160
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 4: can account for that. Right. The question for me is

1161
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 4: do you walk out of this free agency period, feeling

1162
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 4: like you have made progress on defense. You know, I

1163
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 4: know a lot of fans were really over Zire Franklin,

1164
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 4: But I mean subtracting Zire Franklin doesn't make you better, right,

1165
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 4: I mean you have to You got to do something.

1166
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 4: They have to come out of this feeling like they

1167
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 4: have made progress. You can't do it all in the draft.

1168
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 4: You just cannot. So you talked about getting younger and faster. Okay,

1169
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 4: now you got to do it. So I think the

1170
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 4: pressure's on there. I think there's a lot of pressure,

1171
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 4: frankly on Chris Ballard to accomplish that. Otherwise they still

1172
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 4: have a lot of the same problems they had last year.

1173
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 1: Stevenholder ESPN dot com and he's on the Java House

1174
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 1: Cold Brew Coffee guest line. Appreciate it as always, Stephen,

1175
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 1: Stephen Holder joining us on the program. One of the

1176
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 1: guys that is, you know, a real domino, perhaps in

1177
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 1: the Anthony Richardson saga, odd as it may sound, might

1178
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 1: be Kyler Murray because you know, Kyler Murray has yet

1179
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 1: to be released by Arizona. But once he's released, there

1180
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 1: is some thought that his landing spot is going to

1181
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 1: be Minnesota. Minnesota is also thought to be a potential

1182
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 1: suitor or have some interest in Anthony Richardson. And all

1183
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 1: of this coming in a peculiar fashion for JJ McCarthy

1184
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 1: because JJ McCarthy, who got hurt as a rookie, then

1185
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 1: got chance last year and I really was, you know,

1186
01:03:56,600 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 1: a disaster basically right, And yet it doesn't look like

1187
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 1: they're going to give him a second year. I mean,

1188
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 1: it's like they're just basically resigned to the fact it's

1189
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 1: over and that's that, and we're going to move on

1190
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 1: from it. And I mean, you have to be I

1191
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 1: would think if you're JJ McCarthy, think about the number

1192
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks you see. Quarterbacking in the NFL is hard,

1193
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 1: and it takes time, and there's a very like finite

1194
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 1: line and it's probably one of the trickiest things to

1195
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 1: navigate in sport. It's like when you're playing that Jenga

1196
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 1: and you've got that one block and you're sitting there

1197
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 1: and you're anxious, you're waiting, you're waiting, and then like boom,

1198
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 1: you pull it out and you're trying to determine just

1199
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 1: exactly what it is you need to pull it and

1200
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 1: you know how slow to go and whatever else because

1201
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 1: otherwise everything topples. And it's kind of like that with

1202
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 1: young quarterbacks, you know, go back. And I can't remember

1203
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 1: was it Kevin Bowen we were talking to about this.

1204
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 1: It's such a good point. I look at Peyton Manning's

1205
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 1: rookie year. I mean, I remember when Peyton Manning was

1206
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 1: a rookie and Michigan was on its way to the

1207
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 1: National championship, or maybe it was a co championship, but

1208
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 1: I remember people saying the Colts just need to trade

1209
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning and get a bunch of draft picks and

1210
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 1: then draft Brian Greasy. I mean, how ridiculous in hindsight

1211
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 1: does that sound right? But that's the kind of rookie

1212
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 1: year he was having. He threw more interceptions than any

1213
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:38,919
Speaker 1: rookie in the history of the NFL at that time.

1214
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 1: And yet only teams, only general managers, only coaches know

1215
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 1: what the balance is on how long you go with

1216
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 1: something before you basically just pulled out from underneath it

1217
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 1: and start all over again. And that's an interesting thing

1218
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 1: to watch in Minnesota, which is of really no relevance

1219
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 1: to Indianapolis other than the fact that it could have

1220
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 1: implication on whether or not Anthony Richardson ends up in Minnesota.

1221
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 1: But I feel for JJ McCarthy because literally after one year,

1222
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 1: I mean, he's the lead that, like Minnesota is presumably

1223
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 1: the landing spot for every single quarterback out there that

1224
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 1: teams are trying to find somewhere to ship, right, And

1225
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 1: if you're mcarthy, you got to be like, uh, guys,

1226
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 1: I'm still here over here, but they've seen enough that

1227
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 1: it would appear and they're done with that.

1228
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 7: Has anyone seen my baseball?

1229
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 1: You did not know what that was from? Huh?

1230
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 7: I didn't know where that was from. No, that was the.

1231
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 1: First line from the movie that you sent to me.

1232
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 7: Uh from Warren?

1233
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 1: Yeah? Do you know that I'm going to confess something

1234
01:06:56,840 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 1: that I don't want it to come off the wrong way?

1235
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 1: Do you know that when I first saw There's Something

1236
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 1: about Mary, We're only mentioned because Eddie saw it for

1237
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 1: the first time the other day. I had to look

1238
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 1: up whether or not Warren was acting. Does that make sense, Eddie?

1239
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1240
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 1: And there are definitely parts. There are more than a

1241
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 1: handful of subtle parts of that movie where you laugh

1242
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 1: and you almost feel bad for laughing, right, you know?

1243
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 1: Another underwritten or underrated. Part of that is when the

1244
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 1: beginning of the movie, when Ted is at his psychologist

1245
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 1: and the guy's been out of the office the whole time.

1246
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 7: Having Yeah, what if it was something else?

1247
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 1: Jake, Well, he does come in with the if I'm

1248
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 1: not mistaken finishing his sandwich. Yeah, yeah, that's very interesting.

1249
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 1: We'll have to get into that next time. That's probably

1250
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 1: how people feel, maybe the majority of our audience is

1251
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 1: that way. Bob Kravitz has not been on the program

1252
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 1: for a way. While that's not intentional by any stretch

1253
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 1: of the imagination, but he has been all over this

1254
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 1: Colts free agency, and in addition to that, has seen

1255
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 1: not just the likes of where the Colts are and

1256
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 1: perhaps where they'd like to go, but the NBA side

1257
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 1: of it as well. In the Pacers in what is

1258
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 1: the world's worst attempt to mask the fact that we

1259
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 1: all know they're tanking, but they're doing a good job

1260
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 1: of being interesting. But while still hanging around that bottom.

1261
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 7: What have you seen tonight's injury report?

1262
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 1: Jake, Yeah, it's well, there's a new Pascal Siakam has

1263
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 1: a new injury, does he not? Uh huh? It was wrist, right, well,

1264
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 1: he had the wrist.

1265
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 6: Yes, that signlined him for a week prior to that.

1266
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 6: Where's the game before the All Star break? I think

1267
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 6: he missed one or after because of personal reasons. But

1268
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 6: hamstring soreness has been a thing that he's been dealing with.

1269
01:08:56,000 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 1: Oh, I have too. Yeah, those hamsterrings get so it's tough.

1270
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 1: You know, they're actually I don't know if you know

1271
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:02,640
Speaker 1: this or not.

1272
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:04,759
Speaker 7: This one is a right knee spring.

1273
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 1: You know what they're doing?

1274
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:06,679
Speaker 2: Now?

1275
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:09,560
Speaker 1: Do you think maybe they're making them just fly commercial

1276
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 1: everywhere and they're like, you know what, he got up

1277
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 1: the plane and those hamstrings were sore because those seats

1278
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 1: are tight these days, right, Maybe that's what they're doing.

1279
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:20,600
Speaker 1: But yes, the injury report, What about Sacramentos? Do we

1280
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 1: have theirs yet?

1281
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 6: I don't have Sacramentos, but for the paper wondering, Hey Eddie,

1282
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 6: Hey Jake, you said, have you seen the report? You

1283
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 6: both said yes, but you didn't tell me because I

1284
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 6: haven't seen it yet. Jos Walker is probable tonight with

1285
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Speaker 6: a right ankle spring the ad mid back soreness. Andrew

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Speaker 6: Nimmhart doubtful with lower back and next soreness.

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Speaker 7: TJ.

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Speaker 6: McConnell out right hamstring sorenings. He did leave the game early.

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Speaker 6: What was that Sunday night? Yeah, they last played Sunday night.

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Speaker 6: Pascal Siak, I'm out with that right knee spring. Zubats

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Speaker 6: out with the left angle spring. But I am hearing

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Speaker 6: that he should be making his debut relatively soon. And

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Speaker 6: relatively soon means before the end of the season. Johnny

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Speaker 6: Furfey and Tyres Helburn both out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the time of year where it starts

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Speaker 1: at Wait, I'm sorry, did you say that you were

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Speaker 1: you clipping your fingernails and there was a small amount

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Speaker 1: Pinky Sorenus right, got a hangail.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the usuals are out.

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Speaker 6: These players are off for the season for Sacramento, Keegan Murray,

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Speaker 6: DeAndre Hunter, Demanto Smonis, and Zach Levine.

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Speaker 1: You know what I've got lower back for example, so too,

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Speaker 1: Halfway through on this Tuesday, along with Eddie Garrison, we

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Speaker 1: one oh seven five the fan.

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Speaker 7: How do you do?

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Speaker 1: I'm well and you can't complain. Joining us now on

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Speaker 1: read him at Bob Kravitz dot com is substat columns

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Speaker 1: and the guy that has his finger on the pulse

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Speaker 1: with all of the sports in Indianapolis as much, if

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Speaker 1: not more so than anybody. Bob Kravitz joining us, Bob,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you your choice. As a matter of fact,

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Speaker 1: is I'm going to sit here as the card dealer,

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Speaker 1: Big ten, tournament, pacers or Colts. I will let you

1348
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Speaker 1: select the first topic.

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Speaker 9: Let's start with the Colts.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we just talked to Steven about this. I want

1351
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:45,639
Speaker 1: your opinion as well in terms of the quarterback will

1352
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 1: begin there. Do you believe it is simply a matter

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01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:51,679
Speaker 1: of time before we get a word on Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, well the league year begins tomorrow, so he can

1355
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:02,879
Speaker 10: start fielding offers at that point. That's my understanding anyway.

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01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 10: And uh, you know, now we find out if anybody's

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Speaker 10: willing to give him north of forty million dollars coming

1358
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 10: back from from an achilles tear. And I do think

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Speaker 10: there's a market for him.

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Speaker 4: I think the.

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Speaker 10: Minnesota Viking is just as an example. I think they're

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01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 10: a team that might be interested in reaching out and

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Speaker 10: you know, with it with an offer sheet. But I

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01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:34,840
Speaker 10: think regardless, you know, unless somebody comes in and it's

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01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 10: some insane number, I truly believe that Cults will match

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Speaker 10: and retain retain him. You know, they wouldn't have kept

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01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:45,919
Speaker 10: Alec Pierce if they you know, Alex wouldn't have stayed

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Speaker 10: if he didn't think there was every chance that Daniel

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01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:51,680
Speaker 10: Jones is going to be here long term.

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Speaker 1: You know, I mentioned this last week, Bob, and I'm

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Speaker 1: what your thoughts on it? Okay, did Sam Darnold winning

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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl increase the market value for a quarterback

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Speaker 1: like Daniel Jones?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: Probably so.

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Speaker 10: And that's something that crossed my mind as I was

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Speaker 10: watching that Super Bowl, is that this is the Daniel

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01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 10: Jones story, you know, and you know, a guy who

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Speaker 10: got run out of New York and then Donald's case,

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01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 10: got run out of a couple of places, and you know,

1381
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 10: and then had this incredible second act. So yeah, I

1382
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 10: think you you look at what Donald did, you got

1383
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 10: to say to yourself, maybe if we surround this guy

1384
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:40,640
Speaker 10: with the right kinds of players, we can do the

1385
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 10: same thing. I don't think they're anywhere close to Seattle defensively,

1386
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 10: but that's still a work in progress.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Bob, in reality, if the Colts get

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01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:55,160
Speaker 1: the quarterback, let's say that they am and I think

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01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:58,760
Speaker 1: we can fairly safely say Daniel Jones is going to

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Speaker 1: be their quarterback. Okay, sure, And and let's just for

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01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 1: the sake of the discussion, say that he comes back

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Speaker 1: and physically speaking is healthy. You have know Michael Pittman,

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Speaker 1: Now you have Alec Pierce. We know you know retained,

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01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 1: We know about Warren and Taylor. You know the other

1395
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 1: weapons that are there. You lose Quitty Pay okay, probably

1396
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 1: a draw. But are they a better team than they

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01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 1: were a year ago.

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Speaker 9: If Daniel's healthy?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: Absolutely, Look Quitty is no loss. He was an underachiever

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01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 10: as a first round pick. You had another edge rusher

1402
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 10: that Ballard with on. Are they yeah?

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01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 2: Uh?

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01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:44,599
Speaker 10: I think they lose something. And losing Pittman Uh, that's

1405
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:46,640
Speaker 10: kind of a shame. But I mean they had to

1406
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 10: do it to get under the cap, or at least

1407
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 10: make their cap something they could work with.

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Speaker 9: I think a healthy Daniel.

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01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 10: Jones makes them a better than eight to nine team,

1410
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:03,120
Speaker 10: well maybe eight and two good through the first ten games.

1411
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 10: I got questions about that, but you know, they it's

1412
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 10: hard to say they're better or worse just because we're

1413
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 10: just getting.

1414
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 9: Started with this whole process.

1415
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 10: I truly believe they're going to go out and get

1416
01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 10: themselves another rush end, edge rusher. I think they're going

1417
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 10: to get themselves a linebacker.

1418
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:25,839
Speaker 1: You think they get via free agency or draft or trade.

1419
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:29,759
Speaker 10: I think I think you know, two of the three certainly,

1420
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 10: maybe maybe even a trade. But I think they're just

1421
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 10: they've just begun and you know how Ballard works.

1422
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 9: I mean He.

1423
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 10: Usually waits a couple of days into free agency, looks

1424
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 10: in the bargain bind a little bit Dollar General.

1425
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:49,560
Speaker 1: And finds this guy, which is why a couple of

1426
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 1: years later he's back at Dollar General.

1427
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 10: Right, That's exactly it, And that's why they need to

1428
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 10: get Skray Hendrickson. You know, he's going to be expensive,

1429
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:03,599
Speaker 10: maybe not thirty million dollar expensive, but I think I

1430
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 10: think Trey Hendrickson just makes too much sense to pass

1431
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:08,520
Speaker 10: up at this point.

1432
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 1: You know, there's Bob, I have nothing to base this

1433
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 1: on other than just curiosity. Is there something about Trey Hendrickson,

1434
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 1: you know, with the numbers that he has produced, to

1435
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 1: still be available number one, and yet and this is

1436
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:28,759
Speaker 1: not the first rodeo of seemingly the opportunity for teams

1437
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:30,839
Speaker 1: to come in and get him if they so choose,

1438
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:34,559
Speaker 1: and yet he still is unclaimed. Is it? Is there

1439
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 1: a danger in reading into that?

1440
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:38,680
Speaker 9: Well, here's what you read into it.

1441
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:42,639
Speaker 10: He's thirty one years old, you know, I mean that

1442
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 10: that's I mean, it's not ancient for a for an

1443
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:49,479
Speaker 10: edge rusher, but it's getting up there, and so I

1444
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:52,719
Speaker 10: don't I think the number is a problem.

1445
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 9: The two numbers are problems.

1446
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 10: His age and want wanting thirty million dollars on the

1447
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:02,760
Speaker 10: open market season. I think those are the issues that

1448
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 10: are that are standing in the way of him getting

1449
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 10: taken picked.

1450
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 4: Up right away.

1451
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:09,600
Speaker 1: Do they need to still talking about the Colts go

1452
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 1: out and get a receiver to replace Michael Pittman.

1453
01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:16,880
Speaker 10: I think they're gonna do that through the draft. Based

1454
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 10: on everything I've read, this is supposed to be a

1455
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:24,679
Speaker 10: very wide receiver deep draft, so I think they're.

1456
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:25,839
Speaker 9: Gonna go in that direction.

1457
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 10: You know, he just got rid of a guy because

1458
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:32,639
Speaker 10: he was gonna cost you twenty nine millions on your cap.

1459
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:35,520
Speaker 10: I think they're gonna want somebody on a rookie contract

1460
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 10: to take his place.

1461
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 1: Did they bail on Ady Mitchell too early?

1462
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 2: No?

1463
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 9: No, no, no, no, no, no no no.

1464
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:45,840
Speaker 10: Look, he's I'm glad for the guy, for the kid,

1465
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 10: the guy, the young man. I'm glad he had some

1466
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:53,559
Speaker 10: good games with the Jets, but he he just wasn't

1467
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:56,639
Speaker 10: gonna make it here. He's I'm sorry, but he's he's

1468
01:18:56,680 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 10: a knucklehead and he just branded stat way too many

1469
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 10: times to be comfortable with the idea that you can

1470
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:05,840
Speaker 10: win with him.

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Speaker 1: Bob Gravitz is my guest Java House Colbrew Coffee guest

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Speaker 1: line is where you're hearing his voice. All right, let's

1473
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 1: switch to this, Bob, your opinion. If Indiana does not win,

1474
01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 1: they're opening Big Ten Tournament game against the winner of

1475
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:24,519
Speaker 1: either Penn State or Northwestern. Are they out of the

1476
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 1: NCAA Tournament?

1477
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 9: Well, they damn a lot of the bee. But the

1478
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:30,040
Speaker 9: bubble is so soft.

1479
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 10: I mean I look today and despite a really mediocre season,

1480
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:39,000
Speaker 10: Joe Lenardi still has him as the last team in.

1481
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:44,680
Speaker 9: So I guess it's possible.

1482
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 10: But everybody on the bubble has got to continue to lose.

1483
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 1: But they they are. That's what's amazing, right Literally, I know,

1484
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:55,559
Speaker 1: like no one wants in. It's weird, I know.

1485
01:19:55,840 --> 01:20:00,680
Speaker 10: And they want to expand the NCAA tournament, you know,

1486
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 10: I mean that makes no sense to me.

1487
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 9: Whatsoever.

1488
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 1: Committee calls you and they say, Bob, Miami, let's say

1489
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:10,400
Speaker 1: Miami gets beat and they're opening round game of the

1490
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 1: MAC Tournament or just doesn't win the MAC Tournament, Miami, Ohio.

1491
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:16,760
Speaker 1: Committee calls you and they said, Bob Kravitz, your call.

1492
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:18,759
Speaker 1: They have one loss that was in their conference tournament.

1493
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:19,280
Speaker 1: Are they in?

1494
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 2: Oh?

1495
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:23,520
Speaker 9: Yeah, absolutely, they're in. No matter what happens.

1496
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:29,120
Speaker 10: In my view, the granted they haven't played anybody, but hell,

1497
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:33,559
Speaker 10: we heard that about Indiana football last year, so uh no.

1498
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:36,800
Speaker 10: I think I watched the game. Who do they play

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01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 10: the other Ohio? Very very tight game, but I was

1500
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:44,559
Speaker 10: really impressed. I think they're a team that could could

1501
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:48,599
Speaker 10: win a game in the NCAA Tournament. They're definitely in.

1502
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 10: You can't make the case that Indiana deserves in and

1503
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 10: Miami does not.

1504
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm in total agreement with you, Bob as

1505
01:20:57,120 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 1: I keep saying, if you win, if you go undefeated

1506
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 1: in your regular season, I don't care what league you're in,

1507
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:06,720
Speaker 1: if you go, if you play thirty one games or

1508
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 1: whatever it is, and you are unblemished, it's only happened

1509
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 1: six times in fifty years. That alone merits you get that,

1510
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:17,599
Speaker 1: that alone should be an autobirth. You should get an

1511
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 1: autobirth for an undefeated regular season.

1512
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:25,759
Speaker 10: I completely agree, you know, I yeah, look, they tried,

1513
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:28,799
Speaker 10: you know, I've read a couple of stories they've tried

1514
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 10: to schedule up. But it's awfully difficult when you're a

1515
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 10: mid major, especially a pretty good one, to you know,

1516
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 10: make deals with these Quad one, Quad two teams that

1517
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:45,439
Speaker 10: might want to come in and play you. So no,

1518
01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:51,639
Speaker 10: I don't think you can. You can penalize them when

1519
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 10: they've All they've done is play everybody in their way.

1520
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:57,760
Speaker 1: Okay, here's the big one, Bob, to wrap it up. Yeah,

1521
01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:01,080
Speaker 1: let's say the Colts end up, or excuse me, the Pacers.

1522
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:04,720
Speaker 1: Let's say the Pacers end up, and clearly they are

1523
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 1: trying their hardest to stay within that top four, right,

1524
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:11,120
Speaker 1: I mean we know this. Uh let's say they end

1525
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:13,960
Speaker 1: up in that top four. The guy that you most

1526
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:15,759
Speaker 1: want to see them get would be witch.

1527
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:19,559
Speaker 10: You know, I haven't done a real deep dive on

1528
01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 10: these guys, but based on what I've seen, and it's

1529
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:26,839
Speaker 10: been limited. You know, I've seen Peterson play. I'm really

1530
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:31,720
Speaker 10: I'm taken with his talent, but his availability is very

1531
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:32,559
Speaker 10: much a question.

1532
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 9: I really like Da Bansay, you know, I saw Boozer

1533
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:39,720
Speaker 9: the other day. He's dynamite.

1534
01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 10: You can't go wrong with really any of the three,

1535
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 10: and even Caleb Williams Wilson at four. But based on

1536
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 10: the games that I've seen, I think Debansa would be

1537
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 10: the best fit here.

1538
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:57,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm telling you right now, if they end up

1539
01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:00,880
Speaker 1: what they pick and the band says on the board,

1540
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:03,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if you want in on this, Bob.

1541
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 1: I think Kevin Boner probably joined me. I will parade.

1542
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 1: I will literally lead the parade down Meridian Street and

1543
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:09,839
Speaker 1: around the Circle.

1544
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:11,639
Speaker 4: I really yeah.

1545
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Demansa is tremendous. A six or

1546
01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:18,200
Speaker 1: nine guy that can guard on the wing. He he

1547
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 1: has a soft touch, he can shoot the three. I

1548
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:25,960
Speaker 1: just he's everything. My mind just immediately starts racing. I'll

1549
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:27,680
Speaker 1: just put it to you that way.

1550
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:29,759
Speaker 9: And he's why. He's exactly what they need.

1551
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 10: I mean, yeah, yeah, I love I love Nie Smith

1552
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 10: at the three. But you know, if you can get

1553
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:38,559
Speaker 10: a six to nine wing who can do a little bit, I.

1554
01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 9: Mean, how good would they be if you got.

1555
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 10: Nee Smith coming in off the bench. I mean that's

1556
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 10: pretty scary.

1557
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. I made a pack last year that

1558
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:48,720
Speaker 1: if they won the NBA title, I would get a

1559
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 1: Pacers tattoo. I have no tattoos in case I'm ever

1560
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 1: a fugitive of the law. But if they get de Bonsa,

1561
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 1: then in two years I might be back to metamorphosis

1562
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:59,719
Speaker 1: on brought up l Avenue. But we shall see, Bob appreciate

1563
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:02,720
Speaker 1: the time as always. Man all right, buddy, take care

1564
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 1: Bob Kravitz dot Com, where you can read the work

1565
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:08,559
Speaker 1: of Bob Kravitz. Speaking of Broaderpole Avenue, sad news yesterday,

1566
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:12,400
Speaker 1: not literally, I mean like no one passed, but sad news. Nonetheless.

1567
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:14,720
Speaker 1: We'll get to that, and we'll get you caught up

1568
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:17,640
Speaker 1: on anything that may have developed here this afternoon in

1569
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:24,240
Speaker 1: the league. Next funny thing happened to me about six

1570
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:32,080
Speaker 1: years ago. I was driving home. I don't even think

1571
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 1: it was a weekend night. I'm pretty sure it was

1572
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:40,640
Speaker 1: a week night. That's week w ee k, not not

1573
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 1: a weeknight like a lame night. But I was driving

1574
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:50,640
Speaker 1: across Broaderpol Avenue. And you know, I, like anybody, I

1575
01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 1: guess I have a quite the fondness for the recollections

1576
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:58,719
Speaker 1: of my coming of age, you know, my twenties thirties,

1577
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 1: that the areas that my buddies and I would go

1578
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:05,919
Speaker 1: out socialize whatever else. And certainly in the mid nineties,

1579
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:08,080
Speaker 1: Brought a Pool was the epicenter for a lot of

1580
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:11,879
Speaker 1: that in Indianapolis. So I was driving across Broadepole Avenue.

1581
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:13,479
Speaker 1: Of course I had worked in Brought a Pool for

1582
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 1: years and I saw this gathering of people on the street,

1583
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:20,320
Speaker 1: fairly large gathering as a matter of fact, kind of

1584
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 1: blocking brought up avenue, like what in the world is

1585
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:23,920
Speaker 1: going on? And why are they all hanging out at

1586
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:29,560
Speaker 1: opt Old Pros Table, which was a regular establishment for

1587
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 1: my buddies and I. I remember seeing the Freddie Jones band,

1588
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:35,200
Speaker 1: who you just heard there at the Vogue one time,

1589
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:39,040
Speaker 1: and then all moving from there after the show over

1590
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:44,800
Speaker 1: to Old Pros Table, and the fireplaces were going and

1591
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 1: there's a level of, you know, just a comfort in

1592
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 1: a place like that, and I always loved it. And

1593
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 1: when I think about the Pacers great runs of the nineties,

1594
01:25:57,080 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 1: you know that entire ninety five Playoffs where they of

1595
01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:03,680
Speaker 1: course beat New York and then went and played in

1596
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 1: Orlando and lost in Game seven in Orlando. But you

1597
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:11,519
Speaker 1: know that playoffs and the first couple of rounds of

1598
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 1: the ninety four playoffs as well. My buddies and I

1599
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 1: watched almost every game inside Old Pros Table. I loved it.

1600
01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:20,840
Speaker 1: And that night when I was driving home six years

1601
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:22,439
Speaker 1: ago or whatever it was, I saw these people and

1602
01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 1: I pulled over and said, what in the World's going on?

1603
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:28,040
Speaker 1: They said, oh, we're having kind of a toast or

1604
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:30,639
Speaker 1: a celebration towards the end of Old pros Table said

1605
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:34,360
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? So what's closing? And I

1606
01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 1: couldn't believe it them Oh my gosh. So you know,

1607
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 1: I got out to kind of celebrate with everybody the

1608
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:43,400
Speaker 1: fact that Old Prose Table and what it meant to

1609
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 1: all of these strangers and then myself and lo and behold.

1610
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 1: Like a week later, the news came out that know,

1611
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 1: someone else had bought it regular patrons or employees or something,

1612
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:56,559
Speaker 1: and we're going to keep it afloat, which was great news,

1613
01:26:56,600 --> 01:27:02,160
Speaker 1: but a number of factors came into play again. The

1614
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 1: construction of Broaderpool Avenue that basically shut it down for

1615
01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 1: like two years and made it difficult to get in there,

1616
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:12,439
Speaker 1: the challenges of parking, especially as they got eventually got

1617
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:16,759
Speaker 1: rid of the different parking lots behind it and built

1618
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 1: and I get it, I mean built residential stuff. Obviously.

1619
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 1: You know, there have been the fair share of issues

1620
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 1: with crime and Broaderpool, especially in late wee hours, but

1621
01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 1: I think more so the construction, the parking, and just

1622
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:38,440
Speaker 1: the as life moves on, people going into other areas

1623
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:42,160
Speaker 1: of nightlife in Indianapolis. And so yesterday I was sad

1624
01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:46,639
Speaker 1: to hear that Old Pros Table in fact now is closed.

1625
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 1: And that is one and I know I speak for

1626
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:53,920
Speaker 1: a ton of people of certainly the area where I

1627
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 1: grew up, in the era in which I grew up

1628
01:27:56,520 --> 01:28:00,559
Speaker 1: of saying that it's sad. It's an unfortunate part and

1629
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:05,840
Speaker 1: evolution of life in general, that things change and time

1630
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:09,559
Speaker 1: marches on. But to those that were a part of

1631
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:14,799
Speaker 1: keeping the doors open and you know, making the drinks

1632
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:16,400
Speaker 1: or making the food or whatever it might be at

1633
01:28:16,439 --> 01:28:18,840
Speaker 1: Old Pros Table that made it a possibility, simply a

1634
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:21,360
Speaker 1: thank you on behalf of a lot of people, because

1635
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:23,479
Speaker 1: there were a lot of great times in that joint.

1636
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:25,640
Speaker 1: Had a lot of fun. There a lot of it.

1637
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:30,680
Speaker 1: When we come back, NFL Free Agency has kind of

1638
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:35,040
Speaker 1: hit like this weird lull period and that might not

1639
01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:38,719
Speaker 1: be bad news, or maybe it's good news for the Colts.

1640
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:42,559
Speaker 1: But there's one question about the Colts right now that

1641
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:44,920
Speaker 1: I think is getting lost in the shuffle of all

1642
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:50,800
Speaker 1: of it. I'll explain and we'll discuss next. We have

1643
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:52,599
Speaker 1: tickets to give away, do we not, Eddie?

1644
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:53,280
Speaker 7: We do?

1645
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:58,160
Speaker 1: Indeed, that would be and I will allow you.

1646
01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:02,599
Speaker 7: That's not for Phil Collins.

1647
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:06,040
Speaker 1: I do, uh, I do like Phil Collins. Remember our

1648
01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 1: discussion the other day Bigger Eighties icon Phil Collins or David.

1649
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:10,920
Speaker 7: Lee Row I do you remember that conversation.

1650
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the kind of conversation or the conversation of

1651
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:18,680
Speaker 1: maybe recollection of winning tickets on this program that you

1652
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:20,679
Speaker 1: can have with us if you are at the Fan

1653
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:24,120
Speaker 1: Invitational twenty twenty six Golf Outing presented by Franciscan Health

1654
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:28,559
Speaker 1: April thirtieth, legends down in Franklin from ten to thirty

1655
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 1: in the morning until five thirty in the evening. We

1656
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 1: will all be there swinging the golf club around doing

1657
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:36,120
Speaker 1: the shows live out there. Had a ton of fun

1658
01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:38,040
Speaker 1: last year. Last year, we did it at the end

1659
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:40,400
Speaker 1: of the golf season this year to kind of kick

1660
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:44,599
Speaker 1: off the golf season again April thirtieth, and Franciscan will

1661
01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:46,880
Speaker 1: also be there. Franciscan Health and I love the work

1662
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:50,080
Speaker 1: that they do in making sure that you are aware

1663
01:29:50,200 --> 01:29:53,320
Speaker 1: of the different things from a health standpoint. They will

1664
01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:57,200
Speaker 1: have out there. They're you know, answering questions for you,

1665
01:29:57,240 --> 01:29:59,560
Speaker 1: do screenings, whatever it might be. We would love to

1666
01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:02,920
Speaker 1: see you there at the station website one oh seven

1667
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:04,840
Speaker 1: five thefan dot com where you can get all of

1668
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:07,479
Speaker 1: your information and get registered for it, whether it be

1669
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:10,760
Speaker 1: individually or with a foursome. Now, those tickets, Eddie, are

1670
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:12,320
Speaker 1: for Eric Clapton, correct?

1671
01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:13,960
Speaker 7: That is correct?

1672
01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:14,360
Speaker 4: Yes?

1673
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:17,439
Speaker 1: And have you determined what fashion you're going to use

1674
01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:19,760
Speaker 1: to give away said tickets for Eric Clapton? And also

1675
01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:22,040
Speaker 1: do you have the information as to win This concert's

1676
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:22,639
Speaker 1: taking place?

1677
01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:25,800
Speaker 7: Yes, Tuesday, September eighth, that Heritage Bank Center. That is

1678
01:30:25,840 --> 01:30:26,760
Speaker 7: the date of the.

1679
01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:30,439
Speaker 6: Concert Eric Clapton with special guests Jimmy Vinn. Let's do

1680
01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:33,439
Speaker 6: this via the text line three one nineteen seventy.

1681
01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:36,959
Speaker 1: Okay, and what number Texter, if you will.

1682
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:39,800
Speaker 6: Let's see what number am I feeling today. Let's go

1683
01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:42,880
Speaker 6: with twenty nine in honor of Alekirs getting twenty nine

1684
01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:43,280
Speaker 6: a year.

1685
01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:43,719
Speaker 7: Okay.

1686
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:46,559
Speaker 1: It's a lot of people that were assuming or listening

1687
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:49,800
Speaker 1: to the program, Eddie. Yeah, seems a little confident, does

1688
01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 1: it not, Yes, sir.

1689
01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:57,759
Speaker 6: We have an update on one of the free agents

1690
01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:02,519
Speaker 6: of the Cults, Brandon Smith, staying in the ac South

1691
01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:06,160
Speaker 6: and he's going down south to Houston.

1692
01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:09,479
Speaker 1: Really, there was a lot of discussion whether or not

1693
01:31:09,560 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 1: Braden Smith would retire. What are the terms? Have they

1694
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:12,960
Speaker 1: been released?

1695
01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:15,280
Speaker 6: I haven't seen terms. All I've seen is the report

1696
01:31:15,320 --> 01:31:16,439
Speaker 6: that he's going down to Houston.

1697
01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:19,840
Speaker 1: Okay, so that means the Colts will, you know, and

1698
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:22,840
Speaker 1: they obviously have become accustomed to that right side of

1699
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:25,920
Speaker 1: the line, you know, with different people filling in over there.

1700
01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:29,800
Speaker 1: But good player during his time here in Indianapolis, but

1701
01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:32,320
Speaker 1: now on his way to Houston. Here's the thing about

1702
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 1: all of this, to your deal that I think is

1703
01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:44,960
Speaker 1: a little bit lost in the shuffle. The Colts right

1704
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:50,439
Speaker 1: now are in a situation where they are, we know,

1705
01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:54,080
Speaker 1: retaining Alec Pierce and I mentioned earlier, and we could

1706
01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:57,000
Speaker 1: certainly discuss this till the cows come home about whether

1707
01:31:57,080 --> 01:31:59,360
Speaker 1: or not. And I think Alec Pierce is a really

1708
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:01,840
Speaker 1: good player. Me wrong, But I do think that we

1709
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 1: to an extent get caught up in and fall in

1710
01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:11,840
Speaker 1: love with almost as much as we love what a

1711
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:17,200
Speaker 1: player is. I think we also are protecting ourselves emotionally

1712
01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 1: from worrying about what we would lose if a player

1713
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:23,760
Speaker 1: is to go elsewhere. And if that makes sense, you know,

1714
01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:27,320
Speaker 1: I've always said, like with gambling, when I go to Vegas,

1715
01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:28,960
Speaker 1: and people like you play a lot of the casinos,

1716
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:30,600
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I really don't, not because I have

1717
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:34,200
Speaker 1: anything against it, but because the thrill of winning money

1718
01:32:34,240 --> 01:32:38,719
Speaker 1: to me doesn't register is high on the emotional meter

1719
01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:42,880
Speaker 1: chart as the gut punch of losing money. And I

1720
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:46,040
Speaker 1: think sometimes in free agency we get so caught up

1721
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:48,240
Speaker 1: in they got to retain this guy, they got to

1722
01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:49,320
Speaker 1: get this guy, they got to get this guy, they

1723
01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:52,880
Speaker 1: got to resign this guy whatever, and we get so

1724
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:55,759
Speaker 1: caught up in that that it's more about worrying about

1725
01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:57,720
Speaker 1: what would happen if they were to leave than it

1726
01:32:57,800 --> 01:33:01,880
Speaker 1: is celebrating the benefit of having them. Now. Pierce is

1727
01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:04,800
Speaker 1: a really good player. I get it. He's a really

1728
01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:08,280
Speaker 1: good player, and he does bring something to the table

1729
01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:13,679
Speaker 1: that is hard to replicate, that ability to get behind

1730
01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:16,160
Speaker 1: a defense and the different ways in which he can

1731
01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:19,920
Speaker 1: keep their offense alive. And he has really diversified himself

1732
01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:23,160
Speaker 1: as a player as well. But as much as we

1733
01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:27,200
Speaker 1: talk about Pierce, as much as we talk about the

1734
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:30,800
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones situation and what seems to be I think

1735
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:32,559
Speaker 1: a fate to complete at this point that he is

1736
01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:36,000
Speaker 1: going to end up as the quarterback beyond just the

1737
01:33:36,040 --> 01:33:39,120
Speaker 1: transition tag and they'll match whatever comes his way. We

1738
01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:41,439
Speaker 1: could be proven wrong in that, but it would surprise me,

1739
01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:43,800
Speaker 1: you know. Could somebody come out of the woodwork and

1740
01:33:43,880 --> 01:33:46,559
Speaker 1: just say that's it. We're giving him four years and

1741
01:33:47,880 --> 01:33:50,200
Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty million, and the Colts say, yeah,

1742
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:52,439
Speaker 1: too rich for our blood. I guess that's possible. I

1743
01:33:52,439 --> 01:33:56,080
Speaker 1: don't think it's probable. And I don't think Alec Pierce

1744
01:33:56,200 --> 01:34:00,280
Speaker 1: is here unless he knows that Daniel Jones is coming back.

1745
01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:04,080
Speaker 6: Two years, twenty five million, thirteen and a half guaranteed

1746
01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:07,479
Speaker 6: for Braden Smith, for Braden Smith down in with the Texans.

1747
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:12,280
Speaker 1: Now here's what When we talk about that, and we

1748
01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:15,280
Speaker 1: talk about Quitty pay going out the door, and Braden

1749
01:34:15,320 --> 01:34:19,599
Speaker 1: Smith leaving and trading away, Zia Franklin and Michael Pittman

1750
01:34:19,680 --> 01:34:24,040
Speaker 1: Junior going to the Steelers and all of those things,

1751
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:29,400
Speaker 1: one guy we haven't talked a lot about is Anthony Richardson.

1752
01:34:32,120 --> 01:34:39,679
Speaker 1: And what I found a note yesterday. The Colts made

1753
01:34:39,680 --> 01:34:41,679
Speaker 1: it very clear a couple of weeks ago that Anthony

1754
01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:47,000
Speaker 1: Richardson was free to seek a trade. That means that

1755
01:34:47,080 --> 01:34:51,599
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson's agent was told, hey, listen if you can

1756
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:55,960
Speaker 1: go out there and find somebody have at That's not

1757
01:34:56,000 --> 01:35:02,800
Speaker 1: to say that won't happen, but it hasn't yet. And

1758
01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:06,280
Speaker 1: even though I realize it's a free agency to some

1759
01:35:06,479 --> 01:35:09,960
Speaker 1: extent a trade, it's a free you know, it would

1760
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:12,280
Speaker 1: be like the Pittman situation where the Colts would basically

1761
01:35:12,280 --> 01:35:15,959
Speaker 1: take minimal back because it's like, look, this is essentially

1762
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:20,040
Speaker 1: a salary dump. And I know that Richardson is entering

1763
01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:23,240
Speaker 1: the last year of his contract, and so it would

1764
01:35:23,280 --> 01:35:26,240
Speaker 1: be a team that would be looking to get him

1765
01:35:26,280 --> 01:35:29,040
Speaker 1: and then sign him or even get him for the

1766
01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:32,360
Speaker 1: year and sign him in maybe a one year deal,

1767
01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:34,599
Speaker 1: a flyer to see what's out there, kick the tires

1768
01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:42,519
Speaker 1: on it. And Minnesota is rumored for a number of things.

1769
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:49,639
Speaker 1: Minnesota is linked to the possibility of there's still I've seen,

1770
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:52,320
Speaker 1: you know, some people saying that they may make an

1771
01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:56,240
Speaker 1: offer to Daniel Jones. He knows the quarterback room there,

1772
01:35:56,400 --> 01:36:01,439
Speaker 1: he knows the staff, he knows the doctors. Minnesota is

1773
01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:08,120
Speaker 1: very much It would appear in play or in discussion

1774
01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:12,080
Speaker 1: or potential for Kyler Murray, who will not be released

1775
01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:16,120
Speaker 1: until tomorrow, and at that point then he becomes a

1776
01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:19,520
Speaker 1: free agent. And Arizona. That's the game plan is Arizona's

1777
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:22,880
Speaker 1: releasing Kyler Murray and then Minnesota is thought to be

1778
01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:24,360
Speaker 1: one of the landing spots.

1779
01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:26,280
Speaker 6: Which makes a lot of sense from Minnesota, Jake, when

1780
01:36:26,280 --> 01:36:27,439
Speaker 6: you think about it, they've been in.

1781
01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:29,160
Speaker 7: Cap hell this offseason.

1782
01:36:29,200 --> 01:36:32,800
Speaker 6: They had to shed so much salary that Kyler Murray

1783
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:35,160
Speaker 6: kind of like with Tua Tongue Iola with Atlanta, and

1784
01:36:35,200 --> 01:36:36,680
Speaker 6: he's going to be He's going to be on a

1785
01:36:36,720 --> 01:36:41,240
Speaker 6: minimum contract. So getting a starting quarterback essentially for one

1786
01:36:41,240 --> 01:36:43,400
Speaker 6: point three million dollars makes a ton of sense for them.

1787
01:36:44,280 --> 01:36:49,280
Speaker 1: But what Minnesota has is the same thing as the

1788
01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:55,160
Speaker 1: Colts in this regard. JJ McCarthy was drafted by Minnesota.

1789
01:36:57,040 --> 01:37:05,400
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy got hurt early, then got his opportunity and

1790
01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:09,559
Speaker 1: it did not go well. And I don't know what

1791
01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:11,840
Speaker 1: the time period is with a quarterback between when you

1792
01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:13,560
Speaker 1: pull the plug and when you say we're going to

1793
01:37:13,640 --> 01:37:16,560
Speaker 1: give this more of a go. Look at Malik Willis

1794
01:37:17,160 --> 01:37:20,120
Speaker 1: right Suddenly now he's like the no, this guy's you know,

1795
01:37:20,360 --> 01:37:23,000
Speaker 1: this is a prime free agent. Let's go out and

1796
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:24,280
Speaker 1: get him. Well, there was a time where he was

1797
01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:26,920
Speaker 1: with the team, got the keys early and that team

1798
01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:29,360
Speaker 1: gave up the goat, you know, throwing the towel on him.

1799
01:37:30,439 --> 01:37:34,160
Speaker 1: So it's a very slippery thing to know when to

1800
01:37:34,479 --> 01:37:37,120
Speaker 1: go ahead and further invest in when to say enough

1801
01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:42,479
Speaker 1: is enough. But all of this free agency talk, all

1802
01:37:42,520 --> 01:37:46,839
Speaker 1: of it, all of the contracts speak, all of the numbers,

1803
01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:49,400
Speaker 1: all of the noise, all of the speculation, all of

1804
01:37:49,439 --> 01:37:53,360
Speaker 1: the fun, all of the conjecture, all of it is

1805
01:37:53,400 --> 01:38:02,040
Speaker 1: all of it making us forget that we are discussing supporting,

1806
01:38:02,320 --> 01:38:07,840
Speaker 1: pulling for watching a franchise whose general manager has been

1807
01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:13,400
Speaker 1: here for a decade with a playoff win and is

1808
01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:17,200
Speaker 1: desperately seeking someone to take off his hands. The most

1809
01:38:17,240 --> 01:38:22,559
Speaker 1: critical draft pick he has made in his tenure, the

1810
01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:29,160
Speaker 1: most single important position in sport, is one that the

1811
01:38:29,240 --> 01:38:36,040
Speaker 1: Colts waited and delayed forever. They waited and delayed forever

1812
01:38:39,439 --> 01:38:42,360
Speaker 1: before they finally decided it was time to draft a

1813
01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:46,439
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback. They had other years they could have done it,

1814
01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:50,439
Speaker 1: They had other ways they could have acquired one. They

1815
01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:53,519
Speaker 1: waited and waited and waited, and kicked the can and

1816
01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:57,240
Speaker 1: kicked the can and kicked the can and finally landed

1817
01:38:57,240 --> 01:39:03,479
Speaker 1: on their guy, the guy that they said, if we

1818
01:39:03,640 --> 01:39:06,479
Speaker 1: had the number one pick in the draft. This is

1819
01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:10,640
Speaker 1: who we take. Now. Maybe they said that is gamesmanship.

1820
01:39:11,600 --> 01:39:14,479
Speaker 1: Maybe they said that to lift their guy, but they

1821
01:39:14,479 --> 01:39:19,080
Speaker 1: said it. I didn't say it. They said it. And

1822
01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:28,120
Speaker 1: before the completion of that player's rookie deal, they're looking

1823
01:39:28,160 --> 01:39:33,840
Speaker 1: for anybody to take him off their hands. And that

1824
01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:39,959
Speaker 1: is an incredible indictment on the foresight or lack thereof,

1825
01:39:40,479 --> 01:39:47,000
Speaker 1: within the Colts organization. And yes, they get credit for

1826
01:39:48,080 --> 01:39:51,960
Speaker 1: finding Daniel Jones and seeing something in him that perhaps

1827
01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:56,559
Speaker 1: other teams did not, and giving him the weapons to

1828
01:39:56,720 --> 01:40:00,360
Speaker 1: get him comfortable, to allow him to continue at the

1829
01:40:00,400 --> 01:40:03,400
Speaker 1: pace in which he played. That got him a big

1830
01:40:03,439 --> 01:40:08,920
Speaker 1: deal in New York. They get credit for that, but

1831
01:40:09,040 --> 01:40:15,920
Speaker 1: it doesn't mask the fact it's easy. It's let me

1832
01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:21,719
Speaker 1: rephrase that, it's easier to determine how good a player

1833
01:40:21,920 --> 01:40:26,320
Speaker 1: is or can be when you have tangible, long term

1834
01:40:26,360 --> 01:40:30,680
Speaker 1: proof of who they are as an NFL player. The

1835
01:40:30,760 --> 01:40:35,599
Speaker 1: real test is in evaluating how good they're going to

1836
01:40:35,640 --> 01:40:43,800
Speaker 1: be based on projection of looking at throwing motion, footwork,

1837
01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:46,799
Speaker 1: especially when a guy has a limited number of games

1838
01:40:46,840 --> 01:40:52,640
Speaker 1: in college. That's the real test, and the real greatness

1839
01:40:52,640 --> 01:40:57,760
Speaker 1: comes in that determination. Bill Pullian, who is the blueprint

1840
01:40:57,760 --> 01:41:01,840
Speaker 1: that we use in NFL build in this town because

1841
01:41:01,880 --> 01:41:04,360
Speaker 1: he did it longer and better than anybody that we've

1842
01:41:04,400 --> 01:41:12,160
Speaker 1: seen in this franchise. Different era perhaps, but look at

1843
01:41:12,720 --> 01:41:16,360
Speaker 1: the thing that the Colts did. And yes, having Peyton

1844
01:41:16,360 --> 01:41:19,240
Speaker 1: Manning helps a lot. Peyton Manning made a lot of

1845
01:41:19,400 --> 01:41:21,439
Speaker 1: very good players look like great players and a lot

1846
01:41:21,439 --> 01:41:26,200
Speaker 1: of good players look very good. But and believe you me,

1847
01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:32,240
Speaker 1: I was pretty critical Napoleon at a lot of different periods,

1848
01:41:32,720 --> 01:41:35,240
Speaker 1: in a lot of different ways. I think Peyton Manning

1849
01:41:35,560 --> 01:41:47,080
Speaker 1: helps a ton. But they drafted Dwight Freeney, they drafted

1850
01:41:47,240 --> 01:41:54,479
Speaker 1: Reggie Wayne, they drafted Edrin James, they drafted Dallas Clark.

1851
01:41:56,840 --> 01:42:02,120
Speaker 1: He inherited Marvin Harrison. That helps. He drafted Peyton Manning.

1852
01:42:03,800 --> 01:42:10,240
Speaker 1: On and on and on, and you have to hit

1853
01:42:10,360 --> 01:42:12,439
Speaker 1: in the draft at the top of your draft. And

1854
01:42:12,479 --> 01:42:14,760
Speaker 1: the Colts have not swung and missed on all of them.

1855
01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:20,120
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, Don't get me wrong, But Chris

1856
01:42:20,160 --> 01:42:23,280
Speaker 1: Ballard often says that the thing that he most believes

1857
01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:25,240
Speaker 1: in and most wants to do is taking care of

1858
01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:29,759
Speaker 1: his own and keeping them internally. But in the single

1859
01:42:30,200 --> 01:42:35,639
Speaker 1: most important pick of his tenure at the single most

1860
01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:43,760
Speaker 1: important position. The Colts now are not only putting it

1861
01:42:43,800 --> 01:42:47,439
Speaker 1: out there for anybody that will listen that that player

1862
01:42:47,520 --> 01:42:53,280
Speaker 1: they selected in that spot is available, but not only that,

1863
01:42:53,880 --> 01:43:01,440
Speaker 1: Seemingly nobody's picking up that phone. And the further indictment,

1864
01:43:02,120 --> 01:43:08,479
Speaker 1: it's one of two things. They either totally misevaluated Anthony

1865
01:43:08,560 --> 01:43:15,760
Speaker 1: Richardson or they totally misplayed how to develop him. I

1866
01:43:15,840 --> 01:43:18,360
Speaker 1: think it probably is as much the latter as anything.

1867
01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:23,280
Speaker 1: But Chris Ballard since then has said and is on

1868
01:43:23,439 --> 01:43:29,439
Speaker 1: record of saying that guys need reps, Guys need to

1869
01:43:29,439 --> 01:43:34,559
Speaker 1: go through in college and get reps. Yet at the

1870
01:43:34,600 --> 01:43:37,920
Speaker 1: single most important draft selection he has ever made as

1871
01:43:37,960 --> 01:43:41,519
Speaker 1: an executive, he went with one that everyone at the

1872
01:43:41,560 --> 01:43:44,160
Speaker 1: top of the page, what it said was doesn't have

1873
01:43:44,240 --> 01:43:47,880
Speaker 1: a lot of reps, and I don't think they gave

1874
01:43:47,960 --> 01:43:50,320
Speaker 1: him a lot of resources and tools to work with.

1875
01:43:50,600 --> 01:43:55,639
Speaker 1: Beyond that, It's not me sitting here saying that Chris

1876
01:43:55,680 --> 01:43:58,240
Speaker 1: Ballard needs to be run out of town. I'm not

1877
01:43:58,280 --> 01:44:02,160
Speaker 1: saying that. But what I'm saying is, do we truly

1878
01:44:02,320 --> 01:44:05,439
Speaker 1: at its core we can sit here and as I

1879
01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:10,400
Speaker 1: have question whether or not giving up two first round

1880
01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:12,400
Speaker 1: picks for Sauce Gardner was the right thing to do,

1881
01:44:14,360 --> 01:44:17,280
Speaker 1: But at the time that they did it, you thought

1882
01:44:17,320 --> 01:44:19,040
Speaker 1: those were going to be like the twenty fifth pick

1883
01:44:19,040 --> 01:44:24,880
Speaker 1: in the draft, and you threw an eighty Mitchell with it,

1884
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:27,599
Speaker 1: not knowing necessarily that you were going to be down

1885
01:44:27,600 --> 01:44:32,920
Speaker 1: a receiver in six months. We can sit here and

1886
01:44:33,840 --> 01:44:38,080
Speaker 1: po poo the fact that they gave away two first

1887
01:44:38,160 --> 01:44:41,880
Speaker 1: round picks, but then when you look at the draft history,

1888
01:44:41,960 --> 01:44:44,360
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know how valuable would those have

1889
01:44:44,439 --> 01:44:50,120
Speaker 1: been anyway? Right, there are a couple He's had some

1890
01:44:50,280 --> 01:44:53,479
Speaker 1: good picks, don't get me wrong, and had some good drafts,

1891
01:44:55,680 --> 01:44:57,680
Speaker 1: but there are also a couple of drafts for the

1892
01:44:57,720 --> 01:45:02,599
Speaker 1: Colts that are big time woof draftings and inexact science.

1893
01:45:02,640 --> 01:45:04,920
Speaker 1: I get that. What did you know what people said, like,

1894
01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:07,559
Speaker 1: if you can hit on forty to sixty percent, you're

1895
01:45:07,560 --> 01:45:11,400
Speaker 1: doing well. And he'd give me a year off the

1896
01:45:11,400 --> 01:45:13,040
Speaker 1: top of your head in the last five Just name

1897
01:45:13,080 --> 01:45:14,080
Speaker 1: a year off the top of your head.

1898
01:45:14,120 --> 01:45:17,719
Speaker 6: Twenty sixteen, just kidding, uh, twenty twenty one, twenty twenty

1899
01:45:17,720 --> 01:45:18,240
Speaker 6: one draft.

1900
01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:24,960
Speaker 1: Okay, your first overall selection. Quity pay didn't make it

1901
01:45:25,000 --> 01:45:31,639
Speaker 1: the lifetime of the first contract right. Dio didn't make

1902
01:45:31,640 --> 01:45:34,200
Speaker 1: it the lifetime of the first contract.

1903
01:45:34,479 --> 01:45:34,960
Speaker 7: Yeah he did.

1904
01:45:35,800 --> 01:45:36,360
Speaker 1: Dio did.

1905
01:45:36,520 --> 01:45:39,519
Speaker 7: Yeah, he hit free agency last year and went to chic.

1906
01:45:39,680 --> 01:45:43,240
Speaker 1: Even they traded him. Okay, okay, sorry, so Quity Pay

1907
01:45:43,280 --> 01:45:45,000
Speaker 1: they must have extended by one year, right.

1908
01:45:45,280 --> 01:45:47,240
Speaker 6: They picked up the fifth year option of Laity Pay.

1909
01:45:47,360 --> 01:45:49,080
Speaker 6: Dio was the second round pick, so he doesn't get

1910
01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:49,760
Speaker 6: a fifth year option.

1911
01:45:50,280 --> 01:45:51,080
Speaker 1: Kylon Granson.

1912
01:45:52,320 --> 01:45:55,040
Speaker 6: He saw the entirety of his contract but didn't do much.

1913
01:45:55,439 --> 01:45:58,800
Speaker 6: Sean Davis, I don't think he made it out of

1914
01:45:58,840 --> 01:46:02,320
Speaker 6: training camp. Sam Allinger, Okay, you take a flyer there,

1915
01:46:02,360 --> 01:46:05,840
Speaker 6: I get it. Mike Strawn, Remember Mike Strawn was going

1916
01:46:05,920 --> 01:46:09,879
Speaker 6: to be like Annual Wonder right.

1917
01:46:10,680 --> 01:46:12,880
Speaker 7: The training camp all American, that's.

1918
01:46:12,800 --> 01:46:15,360
Speaker 1: Right, seventh ro I'm pick not bad. Will Fries. You

1919
01:46:15,400 --> 01:46:17,040
Speaker 1: know you've gotten some service there right.

1920
01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:19,400
Speaker 7: Now in Minnesota. Yeah, got a big deal.

1921
01:46:19,479 --> 01:46:21,439
Speaker 6: I think that one of those two common picks that

1922
01:46:21,479 --> 01:46:23,400
Speaker 6: the Colt Scott today was from him.

1923
01:46:23,880 --> 01:46:27,920
Speaker 1: Now twenty twenty two better. Alec Pierce obviously a good pick,

1924
01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:31,719
Speaker 1: and you traded back for that good pick. Jelanie Woods

1925
01:46:31,720 --> 01:46:34,120
Speaker 1: injury there, you know, we'll kind of never know. Bernard Ryman,

1926
01:46:34,240 --> 01:46:36,760
Speaker 1: really solid pick gets a ton of credit there. A

1927
01:46:36,760 --> 01:46:39,000
Speaker 1: lot of people thought it was a reach good pick.

1928
01:46:39,080 --> 01:46:46,160
Speaker 1: Nick Cross, same, Eric Johnson, Drew Ogletree, and then Curtis

1929
01:46:46,200 --> 01:46:54,920
Speaker 1: Brooks and Rodney Thomas. How about twenty three Anthony Richardson,

1930
01:46:55,479 --> 01:47:01,839
Speaker 1: Juju Brents, Josh Downs was a really good pick. Outside

1931
01:47:01,840 --> 01:47:04,160
Speaker 1: of that, I mean, you didn't get really anything after

1932
01:47:04,240 --> 01:47:10,920
Speaker 1: round four. Lot of swings and missus there. But the

1933
01:47:11,040 --> 01:47:15,960
Speaker 1: Richardson thing to me is not even being talked about enough,

1934
01:47:16,000 --> 01:47:18,400
Speaker 1: maybe because we have seen how long it would take.

1935
01:47:19,000 --> 01:47:21,160
Speaker 1: You know, this has been a long process of us

1936
01:47:21,200 --> 01:47:30,000
Speaker 1: knowing the inevitability of it. And I again, maybe he

1937
01:47:30,040 --> 01:47:32,000
Speaker 1: didn't get a fair shot because they handed him the

1938
01:47:32,080 --> 01:47:37,599
Speaker 1: keys too early, whatever it may be. At any rate,

1939
01:47:37,720 --> 01:47:42,479
Speaker 1: for whatever the reason, they either mis evaluated him or

1940
01:47:42,520 --> 01:47:45,880
Speaker 1: misdeveloped him. It's one of those two, and both of

1941
01:47:45,920 --> 01:47:50,200
Speaker 1: them to me are big indictment, big indictments, and it's

1942
01:47:50,240 --> 01:47:55,080
Speaker 1: only significant because of the fact that we waited forever

1943
01:47:55,200 --> 01:47:59,000
Speaker 1: for them to finally address that situation. And it's as

1944
01:47:59,040 --> 01:48:02,799
Speaker 1: big as swing an as we've seen at that position

1945
01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:06,320
Speaker 1: in this league in the last handful of years, and

1946
01:48:06,479 --> 01:48:11,240
Speaker 1: notably because at least now and maybe I'll be proven

1947
01:48:11,280 --> 01:48:14,960
Speaker 1: wrong in an hour, But it doesn't seem as though

1948
01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:17,160
Speaker 1: it's the kind of prospect that has a lot of

1949
01:48:17,160 --> 01:48:23,439
Speaker 1: people perking up their ears. I mean, do you I

1950
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:27,960
Speaker 1: keep hearing Minnesota, But if you had your choice between

1951
01:48:28,000 --> 01:48:30,799
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and Anthony Richardson, wouldn't you go with Kyler Murray?

1952
01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:35,479
Speaker 7: If you're looking for somebody to start day one?

1953
01:48:35,600 --> 01:48:39,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree that Richardson seemingly has more.

1954
01:48:39,560 --> 01:48:42,759
Speaker 6: If you're looking for the right to compete with JJ

1955
01:48:42,880 --> 01:48:46,880
Speaker 6: McCarthy in camp for the starting spot, than Richardson makes sense.

1956
01:48:47,680 --> 01:48:50,120
Speaker 6: But if you're looking for a starter for week one

1957
01:48:50,160 --> 01:48:52,559
Speaker 6: and next year, then I would go with Kyler.

1958
01:48:52,640 --> 01:48:54,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1959
01:48:55,160 --> 01:49:06,599
Speaker 1: The that that silence jumped out of me, It jumped

1960
01:49:06,640 --> 01:49:10,519
Speaker 1: out of me. Now, the other thing to keep an

1961
01:49:10,560 --> 01:49:12,679
Speaker 1: eye on is whether or not and Eddie, we talked

1962
01:49:12,680 --> 01:49:15,080
Speaker 1: about this, if you had to go and get and

1963
01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:17,639
Speaker 1: with Richardson. I get the fact that you just can't

1964
01:49:17,720 --> 01:49:21,519
Speaker 1: keep him around for that insurance policy because it just

1965
01:49:21,560 --> 01:49:23,200
Speaker 1: would be too much. I mean, there would be too

1966
01:49:23,280 --> 01:49:26,160
Speaker 1: much speculation and wondering what happens and can you really

1967
01:49:26,160 --> 01:49:27,840
Speaker 1: start it for two games and then bring it back.

1968
01:49:28,080 --> 01:49:30,559
Speaker 1: So if you're not ready to hand the keys to

1969
01:49:30,640 --> 01:49:33,840
Speaker 1: Riley Leonard and this isn't a huge deal, but some

1970
01:49:33,880 --> 01:49:37,599
Speaker 1: of those names that we mentioned Eddie as potential fill

1971
01:49:37,680 --> 01:49:43,639
Speaker 1: in back up, you know, Matt Hasselbeck kind of role

1972
01:49:43,720 --> 01:49:46,720
Speaker 1: for you have also gone by the wayside because they've

1973
01:49:46,720 --> 01:49:47,839
Speaker 1: already found homes elsewhere.

1974
01:49:47,920 --> 01:49:50,200
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, you would have to expect or assume that

1975
01:49:50,240 --> 01:49:52,479
Speaker 6: they have a lot of confidence in Riley Leonard of

1976
01:49:52,560 --> 01:49:55,800
Speaker 6: being their backup quarterback at this point in time. And

1977
01:49:55,840 --> 01:49:59,479
Speaker 6: we've had a couple moves in the last handful of minutes.

1978
01:49:59,479 --> 01:50:03,559
Speaker 6: Shake Romeo Dobbs, who is with Green Bay Packers. It's

1979
01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:06,240
Speaker 6: going to New England, three year, sixty million dollars and

1980
01:50:07,360 --> 01:50:09,760
Speaker 6: I pray. I know the Jets have made a lot

1981
01:50:09,760 --> 01:50:12,880
Speaker 6: of signings, but you know, the social media team and

1982
01:50:13,280 --> 01:50:14,600
Speaker 6: digital team.

1983
01:50:14,360 --> 01:50:15,880
Speaker 7: They're gonna have a lot of work to do on

1984
01:50:15,880 --> 01:50:16,640
Speaker 7: this photoshop.

1985
01:50:17,160 --> 01:50:20,639
Speaker 6: Gino Smith back in the Jets uniform, Jake really, Yes,

1986
01:50:20,680 --> 01:50:23,439
Speaker 6: he is being traded from Las Vegas to New York.

1987
01:50:24,320 --> 01:50:27,599
Speaker 6: The Jets are receiving a sixth round pick or sorry,

1988
01:50:27,600 --> 01:50:29,679
Speaker 6: the Jets are giving up. Yeah, the Jets are giving

1989
01:50:29,760 --> 01:50:32,840
Speaker 6: up a sixth round pick and the Raiders are giving

1990
01:50:32,920 --> 01:50:34,519
Speaker 6: up a seventh plus Geno Smith.

1991
01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:37,280
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to see if I can guess all

1992
01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:39,240
Speaker 1: the teams Geno Smith has played for in his career.

1993
01:50:39,280 --> 01:50:39,799
Speaker 1: Are you ready?

1994
01:50:40,240 --> 01:50:40,599
Speaker 7: Okay?

1995
01:50:42,560 --> 01:50:43,639
Speaker 1: Did he start in New York?

1996
01:50:44,320 --> 01:50:45,200
Speaker 7: He did?

1997
01:50:46,640 --> 01:50:48,320
Speaker 1: How many total teams are we talking here?

1998
01:50:49,760 --> 01:50:52,880
Speaker 7: Let's see one, two, three, four, five?

1999
01:50:53,400 --> 01:50:56,120
Speaker 1: Okay? You know two of them? Well I know three

2000
01:50:56,160 --> 01:51:01,280
Speaker 1: of them? Sorry, New York, Vegas, Seattle. Okay, So there

2001
01:51:01,320 --> 01:51:02,920
Speaker 1: there was somebody after New York, right.

2002
01:51:03,120 --> 01:51:05,719
Speaker 7: There are two teams after New York.

2003
01:51:07,479 --> 01:51:09,160
Speaker 1: Was he a starter for both of them?

2004
01:51:09,479 --> 01:51:09,639
Speaker 2: No?

2005
01:51:10,479 --> 01:51:13,000
Speaker 1: Okay? Was he with don't laugh? Here was he with

2006
01:51:13,040 --> 01:51:17,040
Speaker 1: the Rams? No? Was he with the Patriots?

2007
01:51:17,240 --> 01:51:17,360
Speaker 2: No?

2008
01:51:18,040 --> 01:51:19,680
Speaker 1: Okay, AFC or NFC.

2009
01:51:20,680 --> 01:51:24,720
Speaker 7: One of each? I think? Let mean, uh yeah, one

2010
01:51:24,720 --> 01:51:25,040
Speaker 7: of each?

2011
01:51:25,800 --> 01:51:27,200
Speaker 1: Okay. Lastly, the divisions.

2012
01:51:28,320 --> 01:51:32,559
Speaker 6: You're looking at the AFC West for one, in the

2013
01:51:32,680 --> 01:51:34,320
Speaker 6: NFC East for the other.

2014
01:51:35,200 --> 01:51:41,439
Speaker 1: Okay, Oh wait a minute, hold on Philly? No, okay?

2015
01:51:41,439 --> 01:51:44,880
Speaker 1: Who was the NFC East New York Giants were right

2016
01:51:44,920 --> 01:51:47,320
Speaker 1: after this yet zero recollection of that?

2017
01:51:47,560 --> 01:51:49,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, because he was the backup to zero.

2018
01:51:49,760 --> 01:51:51,840
Speaker 1: Recollection of that, Daniel Jones, right?

2019
01:51:51,920 --> 01:51:52,000
Speaker 5: Uh?

2020
01:51:52,280 --> 01:51:57,519
Speaker 1: Okay? And then you said AFC West, it's not the Raider, Okay,

2021
01:51:57,520 --> 01:52:02,360
Speaker 1: hold on, I don't okay, just on a hunt. Here

2022
01:52:02,640 --> 01:52:06,160
Speaker 1: was he with Denver. Nope, the Chargers? Was he odd?

2023
01:52:06,479 --> 01:52:12,240
Speaker 1: Vaguely vaguely recall that, Yeah, vaguely recall that a late

2024
01:52:12,320 --> 01:52:15,320
Speaker 1: round pickswap is what goes on for Geno Smith.

2025
01:52:15,360 --> 01:52:18,400
Speaker 6: Oh, he was the backup to Eli Manning in New York.

2026
01:52:18,479 --> 01:52:20,439
Speaker 6: Daniel Jonestown wasn't there yet.

2027
01:52:22,320 --> 01:52:24,640
Speaker 1: That long ago. Okay, I have no reck llet did

2028
01:52:24,640 --> 01:52:28,400
Speaker 1: he did he start a game or play a game? Uh?

2029
01:52:28,520 --> 01:52:30,519
Speaker 1: Or was being a backup for Eli like being a

2030
01:52:30,520 --> 01:52:31,320
Speaker 1: backup for Peyton?

2031
01:52:31,600 --> 01:52:35,240
Speaker 6: He was the quarterback that came in for Eli Manning

2032
01:52:35,280 --> 01:52:39,280
Speaker 6: that when he ended his two hundred and game two

2033
01:52:39,320 --> 01:52:45,000
Speaker 6: hundred and ten games starting streak and became the first

2034
01:52:45,080 --> 01:52:49,360
Speaker 6: quarterback to start for both the Giants and the Jets. Ever, Yeah, Okay,

2035
01:52:49,720 --> 01:52:55,960
Speaker 6: if Minnesota somebody raises this point, Matt raised this great point,

2036
01:52:57,080 --> 01:52:59,760
Speaker 6: I think Minnesota must be done with JJ McCarthy because

2037
01:52:59,760 --> 01:53:02,240
Speaker 6: there's there's no way you bring in Anthony Richardson or

2038
01:53:02,280 --> 01:53:07,160
Speaker 6: Kyler Murray to like tutor JJ McCarthy right now. The

2039
01:53:07,200 --> 01:53:09,400
Speaker 6: other question I have is this is the is the

2040
01:53:09,479 --> 01:53:14,280
Speaker 6: Anthony Richardson to Minnesota crave coming from Indie or is

2041
01:53:14,280 --> 01:53:16,720
Speaker 6: it coming from Minnesota. I feel like it's a lot

2042
01:53:16,720 --> 01:53:21,400
Speaker 6: of indie related smoke and hype trying to generate interest

2043
01:53:21,439 --> 01:53:22,280
Speaker 6: from other teams.

2044
01:53:22,360 --> 01:53:25,439
Speaker 1: I think that's fair, trying to, you know, look.

2045
01:53:25,360 --> 01:53:28,280
Speaker 6: Into the just the what Kevin O'Connell said to Anthony

2046
01:53:28,360 --> 01:53:32,719
Speaker 6: Richardson that after that game on Monday Night Football the week.

2047
01:53:32,760 --> 01:53:34,679
Speaker 1: Putting part of the front yard with the side that's

2048
01:53:34,720 --> 01:53:40,439
Speaker 1: like runs great, blows cold air. Okay, you're you're begging

2049
01:53:40,479 --> 01:53:43,000
Speaker 1: people to like stop, buy and look at it. But

2050
01:53:43,040 --> 01:53:47,360
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that, you know what I mean, doesn't

2051
01:53:47,400 --> 01:53:53,840
Speaker 1: mean that anybody has any interest. I don't know. But

2052
01:53:54,479 --> 01:53:59,000
Speaker 1: if I'm wanting to tutor or get one last burst

2053
01:53:59,200 --> 01:54:03,120
Speaker 1: of see what can be done for JJ McCarthy, I

2054
01:54:03,160 --> 01:54:05,400
Speaker 1: don't know that I'm going and getting one guy that

2055
01:54:05,479 --> 01:54:07,400
Speaker 1: tapped out of a game and the other guy that's

2056
01:54:07,400 --> 01:54:11,720
Speaker 1: addicted to call of duty. Hey, come tutor our guy

2057
01:54:11,720 --> 01:54:13,400
Speaker 1: on how to be a quarterback in the NFL. Just

2058
01:54:13,439 --> 01:54:16,040
Speaker 1: try not to do it between when you're watching video

2059
01:54:16,080 --> 01:54:19,120
Speaker 1: games or voluntarily taking yourself out of games and then

2060
01:54:19,200 --> 01:54:24,000
Speaker 1: joking that you were just tired. I mean, you know,

2061
01:54:27,479 --> 01:54:30,559
Speaker 1: and I look Anthony Richardson, by all account, nice guy.

2062
01:54:30,880 --> 01:54:33,160
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think he I think he's liked

2063
01:54:33,200 --> 01:54:36,240
Speaker 1: by his teammates. I think part of it is they

2064
01:54:36,520 --> 01:54:40,400
Speaker 1: just themselves mishandled it and he was never If you

2065
01:54:40,480 --> 01:54:44,040
Speaker 1: knew coming into it that he was a player that

2066
01:54:44,720 --> 01:54:46,840
Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of reps under his belt and

2067
01:54:46,920 --> 01:54:49,640
Speaker 1: a lot of experience, then why would you just automatically

2068
01:54:49,680 --> 01:54:52,800
Speaker 1: anticipate that he's going to be turnkey, ready to go

2069
01:54:53,520 --> 01:54:59,560
Speaker 1: and understand everything going into the position. This has to

2070
01:54:59,560 --> 01:55:01,720
Speaker 1: be one of the few times this late in the

2071
01:55:01,800 --> 01:55:04,360
Speaker 1: year in the nf or the NBA. Excuse me, this

2072
01:55:04,440 --> 01:55:06,640
Speaker 1: late in the year in the NBA season where two

2073
01:55:06,640 --> 01:55:10,920
Speaker 1: teams are playing with a combined total of thirty wins.

2074
01:55:11,560 --> 01:55:16,839
Speaker 1: There cannot be a lot of times a week before

2075
01:55:16,880 --> 01:55:20,800
Speaker 1: the NCAA tournament begins that there are two teams playing

2076
01:55:20,800 --> 01:55:23,880
Speaker 1: an NBA game with a combined total between the two

2077
01:55:23,880 --> 01:55:26,200
Speaker 1: of them of thirty wins. But that's what you have

2078
01:55:26,320 --> 01:55:30,440
Speaker 1: in play tonight in the capital of California. And that's

2079
01:55:30,520 --> 01:55:34,960
Speaker 1: not to say that it doesn't have some intriguing storylines.

2080
01:55:35,040 --> 01:55:38,440
Speaker 1: It does, which is why somebody who's covering it will

2081
01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:43,840
Speaker 1: join us next. Pacers are in Sacramento tonight to take

2082
01:55:43,880 --> 01:55:49,200
Speaker 1: on the Kings. Before we do that, Eddie quickly. Did

2083
01:55:49,240 --> 01:55:53,360
Speaker 1: you get to number twenty nine for the Eric Clapton tickets?

2084
01:55:53,840 --> 01:55:54,120
Speaker 9: Uh?

2085
01:55:54,360 --> 01:55:58,520
Speaker 6: Yes, we actually got a lot of responses of people

2086
01:55:58,560 --> 01:56:00,440
Speaker 6: trying to get in on these Eric Clapton tickets.

2087
01:56:00,480 --> 01:56:00,680
Speaker 7: Jake.

2088
01:56:02,160 --> 01:56:04,720
Speaker 1: Uh, so nobody had the slow hand on actually sending

2089
01:56:04,800 --> 01:56:06,160
Speaker 1: the text. Is what you're getting, Dave.

2090
01:56:06,080 --> 01:56:10,280
Speaker 6: From Greenwood shout out to Dave. I also did go

2091
01:56:10,360 --> 01:56:12,240
Speaker 6: through the roll decks, Jake, and I was able to

2092
01:56:12,960 --> 01:56:16,280
Speaker 6: find that we have a four pack of tickets to

2093
01:56:16,400 --> 01:56:18,200
Speaker 6: the Fisher's Freight.

2094
01:56:18,200 --> 01:56:19,360
Speaker 1: Indoor Football Baby.

2095
01:56:19,440 --> 01:56:20,960
Speaker 7: That is correct.

2096
01:56:21,720 --> 01:56:24,320
Speaker 1: At Fisher's Event Center's fabulous. You can get a for

2097
01:56:24,400 --> 01:56:26,960
Speaker 1: their home opener. You can get a surf side while

2098
01:56:26,960 --> 01:56:31,160
Speaker 1: you're there if you're twenty one please that is on Saturday. Okay,

2099
01:56:31,240 --> 01:56:33,280
Speaker 1: And you were giving those tickets out in what fashion?

2100
01:56:33,320 --> 01:56:35,280
Speaker 6: I've got a trivia question and I want you to

2101
01:56:35,320 --> 01:56:38,320
Speaker 6: answer it via the text line three one, seven, two, nine,

2102
01:56:38,560 --> 01:56:42,480
Speaker 6: ten seventy seems pretty fata compley as you would say, Jake,

2103
01:56:42,560 --> 01:56:47,080
Speaker 6: that uh, Fernando Mendoza will be the first overall pick

2104
01:56:47,320 --> 01:56:49,600
Speaker 6: in the draft next month.

2105
01:56:49,720 --> 01:56:49,920
Speaker 1: Yep.

2106
01:56:50,840 --> 01:56:53,400
Speaker 6: Las Vegas is on records saying stating that they want

2107
01:56:53,400 --> 01:56:56,640
Speaker 6: a veteran just to be there so they don't feel

2108
01:56:56,680 --> 01:57:01,440
Speaker 6: forced to start Mendoza immediately. Okay, who is the last

2109
01:57:01,520 --> 01:57:05,960
Speaker 6: quarterback taken first overall in the NFL draft to not

2110
01:57:06,200 --> 01:57:09,440
Speaker 6: start Week one? That's your trivia question?

2111
01:57:09,840 --> 01:57:13,200
Speaker 1: May I, if I may, I'm raising my hand with

2112
01:57:13,280 --> 01:57:20,560
Speaker 1: a question. Okay, was this an injury situation? No, okay,

2113
01:57:22,840 --> 01:57:27,360
Speaker 1: that's a great trivia question. Dustin Dopirak joining us now

2114
01:57:27,440 --> 01:57:29,440
Speaker 1: on the Java House Colbru Coffee. Guessa, did I say

2115
01:57:29,440 --> 01:57:34,800
Speaker 1: the last night? It's Dustin? Thank you? Joining us now

2116
01:57:34,880 --> 01:57:39,839
Speaker 1: Pacers and Kings tonight and Dustin this late into the season.

2117
01:57:39,920 --> 01:57:41,760
Speaker 1: Is this the first time that you have covered a

2118
01:57:41,800 --> 01:57:44,240
Speaker 1: game where it's pretty clear that both teams are begging

2119
01:57:44,240 --> 01:57:44,880
Speaker 1: the other to win.

2120
01:57:46,760 --> 01:57:48,680
Speaker 4: No, it's like a third and like a month.

2121
01:57:49,560 --> 01:57:52,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess you're right, right, and those others the

2122
01:57:52,760 --> 01:57:56,640
Speaker 1: Pacers managed to win by losing, right, Yes.

2123
01:57:56,640 --> 01:57:59,280
Speaker 5: I think they've they've successfully lost all of them, I believe.

2124
01:57:59,480 --> 01:58:02,320
Speaker 5: Well no, well, right, no, that's right. No, they they

2125
01:58:02,320 --> 01:58:04,600
Speaker 5: haven't lost all of them. I didn't go to Brooklyn,

2126
01:58:04,760 --> 01:58:05,879
Speaker 5: but they beat Brooklyn.

2127
01:58:05,920 --> 01:58:08,360
Speaker 1: Okay, I forgot about that. But they had Washington twice

2128
01:58:08,520 --> 01:58:12,280
Speaker 1: and Dallas where they got the job done, right, Yes.

2129
01:58:12,040 --> 01:58:16,080
Speaker 5: Indeed, and Utah, prior to the break is that it

2130
01:58:16,080 --> 01:58:16,680
Speaker 5: I'm trying to take it.

2131
01:58:16,720 --> 01:58:18,200
Speaker 2: There's another one. I forgetting one.

2132
01:58:18,520 --> 01:58:22,240
Speaker 1: Oh Memphis, you forget that. Memphis is that bad? Right?

2133
01:58:23,240 --> 01:58:23,400
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2134
01:58:23,520 --> 01:58:24,400
Speaker 5: Memphis is that bad?

2135
01:58:24,480 --> 01:58:27,400
Speaker 1: Okay? And I know that this gets into a dangerous

2136
01:58:27,400 --> 01:58:30,720
Speaker 1: area because it gets confusing very quickly. But the reality

2137
01:58:30,880 --> 01:58:37,280
Speaker 1: is this in terms of because for the Pacers, they

2138
01:58:37,360 --> 01:58:39,240
Speaker 1: need and I'm trying to think of how I can

2139
01:58:39,280 --> 01:58:43,800
Speaker 1: word this because I suck at math. Okay, Yeah, the

2140
01:58:43,840 --> 01:58:48,240
Speaker 1: Pacers have to se what's a go ahead?

2141
01:58:48,560 --> 01:58:50,920
Speaker 5: I was not necessarily agreeing. I don't know how good

2142
01:58:50,920 --> 01:58:52,600
Speaker 5: you are or not a mask well I'm terrible.

2143
01:58:52,720 --> 01:58:56,480
Speaker 1: But so the Pacers have to have the first, second, third,

2144
01:58:56,600 --> 01:58:58,879
Speaker 1: or fourth pick in the draft in order to retain

2145
01:58:59,040 --> 01:59:04,520
Speaker 1: their pick that we know, okay, correct, The odds of

2146
01:59:04,560 --> 01:59:09,440
Speaker 1: them landing in the top four begin to drastically slide

2147
01:59:09,480 --> 01:59:11,720
Speaker 1: if they don't finish in the bottom what.

2148
01:59:14,040 --> 01:59:17,680
Speaker 5: I guess you would say drastic at five. So the

2149
01:59:17,720 --> 01:59:21,760
Speaker 5: top the top three, the worst three records are all

2150
01:59:22,600 --> 01:59:25,400
Speaker 5: fourteen percent for number one overall fifty two point one

2151
01:59:25,440 --> 01:59:28,880
Speaker 5: percent for top four. I'm looking at the Tankathon simulator

2152
01:59:29,280 --> 01:59:32,680
Speaker 5: odds there fourth if if you're the fourth worst record,

2153
01:59:32,720 --> 01:59:35,520
Speaker 5: it's forty eight point one percent chance of being top four,

2154
01:59:35,600 --> 01:59:38,560
Speaker 5: twelve point five for being number one. If you're fifth,

2155
01:59:38,640 --> 01:59:41,960
Speaker 5: you're forty two point one percent at top four ten

2156
01:59:42,000 --> 01:59:45,480
Speaker 5: point five for number one. Six is thirty seven point

2157
01:59:45,520 --> 01:59:46,080
Speaker 5: two percent.

2158
01:59:46,080 --> 01:59:48,760
Speaker 1: So they need to be so right now, they're safe

2159
01:59:48,760 --> 01:59:50,640
Speaker 1: if they're top three suck right.

2160
01:59:51,360 --> 01:59:55,000
Speaker 5: Sure, right, yeah, but it's not bad if you're fourth

2161
01:59:55,120 --> 01:59:57,240
Speaker 5: or fifth, but you're you're better off being top three.

2162
01:59:57,360 --> 02:00:00,600
Speaker 1: But there is not a difference in in terms of

2163
02:00:00,640 --> 02:00:05,520
Speaker 1: their odds of drafting within the top four. Those numbers

2164
02:00:05,600 --> 02:00:09,640
Speaker 1: or those odds do not change regardless of whether they're

2165
02:00:09,680 --> 02:00:12,520
Speaker 1: the first, second, third, or fourth worst team. Correct.

2166
02:00:13,560 --> 02:00:14,040
Speaker 2: Correct.

2167
02:00:14,440 --> 02:00:16,480
Speaker 1: Okay, so they just got to stay in that bottom

2168
02:00:16,520 --> 02:00:20,280
Speaker 1: four is what we're getting at. So with that, who

2169
02:00:20,360 --> 02:00:21,600
Speaker 1: is ann and who's out tonight?

2170
02:00:23,560 --> 02:00:23,640
Speaker 2: Uh?

2171
02:00:23,760 --> 02:00:28,040
Speaker 5: Siakam's out, McConnell's out, Nemar is doubtful, which means he's

2172
02:00:28,040 --> 02:00:30,560
Speaker 5: probably out obviously for ify and Al Burtner out, Zoo

2173
02:00:30,600 --> 02:00:32,680
Speaker 5: batches out, and.

2174
02:00:32,680 --> 02:00:33,240
Speaker 4: I think that's it.

2175
02:00:33,960 --> 02:00:36,240
Speaker 5: Jarris Walker ingmed up his ankle a little bit, but

2176
02:00:36,280 --> 02:00:41,680
Speaker 5: he's probable, so so in they're probably looking at a

2177
02:00:41,720 --> 02:00:45,880
Speaker 5: Cam Jones, Quenton Jackson the starting backcourt or either Quentin

2178
02:00:45,960 --> 02:00:50,960
Speaker 5: Jackson or Cam Jones and Ben Shephard, Walker, Mee Smith.

2179
02:00:51,640 --> 02:00:52,880
Speaker 2: Jay Huff is.

2180
02:00:52,800 --> 02:00:58,000
Speaker 1: Probably your starting five, Okay. Soon after that, God, I

2181
02:00:58,040 --> 02:01:02,280
Speaker 1: was gonna say, so the you know, Jay Huff for example,

2182
02:01:02,600 --> 02:01:07,200
Speaker 1: you know, continues to get minutes. We wonder when Zubos

2183
02:01:07,240 --> 02:01:08,240
Speaker 1: will name Jauff.

2184
02:01:08,360 --> 02:01:11,040
Speaker 5: Jay Hoff has in this game, which is amazing.

2185
02:01:11,600 --> 02:01:15,400
Speaker 1: You know what, I kind of like Jay Huff, Like

2186
02:01:15,480 --> 02:01:18,840
Speaker 1: I think Jay Huff, sure, you know, honestly, I think

2187
02:01:18,960 --> 02:01:24,120
Speaker 1: Jay Huff. If there's a silver lining in this year, Okay,

2188
02:01:24,320 --> 02:01:26,640
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of two, We're gonna see how good a

2189
02:01:26,760 --> 02:01:28,920
Speaker 1: mind root you are does it if there's If there's

2190
02:01:28,920 --> 02:01:32,480
Speaker 1: a silver lining in this season, it's that these two players,

2191
02:01:32,840 --> 02:01:37,080
Speaker 1: I think have started to show that once everybody's back

2192
02:01:37,120 --> 02:01:39,080
Speaker 1: in the mix a year and a half from now whatever,

2193
02:01:39,200 --> 02:01:44,000
Speaker 1: that they absolutely are steady rotation and spot starting guys

2194
02:01:44,000 --> 02:01:45,600
Speaker 1: that you can count on. Those two are.

2195
02:01:46,600 --> 02:01:48,440
Speaker 5: If one is Jay Huff, the other jaris Walker.

2196
02:01:48,560 --> 02:01:50,320
Speaker 1: Correct, would you agree with both those?

2197
02:01:51,400 --> 02:01:51,600
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2198
02:01:51,680 --> 02:01:54,680
Speaker 5: One hundred percent. I mean I think the you know

2199
02:01:54,760 --> 02:01:57,200
Speaker 5: right now, I think you would play probably both Potter

2200
02:01:57,280 --> 02:02:01,600
Speaker 5: and Huff behind zubost backup fives I think those those

2201
02:02:01,600 --> 02:02:05,120
Speaker 5: guys are capable and they each give you something different,

2202
02:02:05,920 --> 02:02:08,880
Speaker 5: so it's really it can depend on matchups. But Huff

2203
02:02:08,920 --> 02:02:11,000
Speaker 5: gives you a guy that can step out and shoot threes,

2204
02:02:11,200 --> 02:02:14,200
Speaker 5: and you know that that's got some real uh jump,

2205
02:02:14,240 --> 02:02:16,440
Speaker 5: you know, just real leap to him, where Zumbac is

2206
02:02:16,520 --> 02:02:18,240
Speaker 5: just solid. So those two play offs of each other.

2207
02:02:18,400 --> 02:02:20,680
Speaker 5: But I think if you've got that, there are guys,

2208
02:02:20,880 --> 02:02:23,760
Speaker 5: if they've come off the benches five, that you wouldn't

2209
02:02:23,840 --> 02:02:26,760
Speaker 5: use uh puff four that Michael Potter is a better

2210
02:02:26,800 --> 02:02:29,160
Speaker 5: fit for. You know, Michah Potter I think steps into

2211
02:02:29,200 --> 02:02:31,560
Speaker 5: the Tony Bradley. This is the guy who deals with

2212
02:02:31,760 --> 02:02:35,920
Speaker 5: Mitchell Robinson uh and and all of his ilk like

2213
02:02:36,040 --> 02:02:39,160
Speaker 5: at this point or role at this point. But you know, Walker,

2214
02:02:39,200 --> 02:02:43,800
Speaker 5: I think the last what two months has been really

2215
02:02:44,320 --> 02:02:47,120
Speaker 5: basically what everybody was waiting for. You know, it looks

2216
02:02:47,120 --> 02:02:49,680
Speaker 5: a little odd just because they haven't been winning. And

2217
02:02:50,040 --> 02:02:52,520
Speaker 5: you know, if if you're not watching this team closely

2218
02:02:52,560 --> 02:02:54,720
Speaker 5: because they're not winning, you're not necessarily seeing all of it.

2219
02:02:54,760 --> 02:02:56,800
Speaker 5: And you're also thinking, okay, well, what of that is

2220
02:02:56,800 --> 02:02:59,680
Speaker 5: empty calories and just stats? Because somebody has to play

2221
02:02:59,720 --> 02:03:02,000
Speaker 5: and somebody has to put points on the board. But

2222
02:03:02,160 --> 02:03:03,800
Speaker 5: I think when you're watching on a daily basis, you

2223
02:03:03,800 --> 02:03:06,720
Speaker 5: can see real, real growth, plays with a lot more force,

2224
02:03:07,080 --> 02:03:09,800
Speaker 5: you know, gets downhill off the dribble. You're just seeing

2225
02:03:09,880 --> 02:03:13,120
Speaker 5: him basically just use the physical gifts that he has

2226
02:03:13,160 --> 02:03:15,400
Speaker 5: in a way that he hasn't before, you know, playing

2227
02:03:15,440 --> 02:03:17,280
Speaker 5: with the you know, to use Racarlo as one of

2228
02:03:17,280 --> 02:03:20,440
Speaker 5: his favorite terms. Force, you know, getting downhill, you know,

2229
02:03:20,520 --> 02:03:23,520
Speaker 5: driving the ball, you know, just really playing with forces

2230
02:03:23,520 --> 02:03:26,240
Speaker 5: around the rimbil So just playing solid, pretty steady defense.

2231
02:03:26,520 --> 02:03:28,800
Speaker 5: Still see some issues with I mean they also shooting

2232
02:03:28,800 --> 02:03:30,920
Speaker 5: the ball really well from outside. Still see some issues

2233
02:03:30,960 --> 02:03:33,240
Speaker 5: with turnovers. He's the type that you're you're going to

2234
02:03:33,320 --> 02:03:35,680
Speaker 5: see some just absolutely gorgeous passes from him and then

2235
02:03:35,720 --> 02:03:37,720
Speaker 5: suddenly you're like, what were you trying to do there?

2236
02:03:38,560 --> 02:03:41,800
Speaker 5: But all the same, the entire level for him has

2237
02:03:42,200 --> 02:03:45,240
Speaker 5: risen pretty pretty dramatically, I think over the course of

2238
02:03:45,240 --> 02:03:48,360
Speaker 5: this year. And you know, I think regardless of who

2239
02:03:48,400 --> 02:03:51,120
Speaker 5: they who they draft could make an impact, you know,

2240
02:03:51,240 --> 02:03:53,040
Speaker 5: depending on you know, I think he's got a better

2241
02:03:53,120 --> 02:03:56,560
Speaker 5: chance of being in you know, the starting small forward rule,

2242
02:03:56,760 --> 02:04:00,400
Speaker 5: not starting back up small forward rule. If you draft Peterson,

2243
02:04:01,000 --> 02:04:02,880
Speaker 5: then maybe de Bons that the bonsa kind of shakes

2244
02:04:02,880 --> 02:04:05,880
Speaker 5: things up a little bit, But for the most part,

2245
02:04:05,920 --> 02:04:08,480
Speaker 5: I think Walker is put himself in a pretty steady

2246
02:04:08,480 --> 02:04:10,120
Speaker 5: position that he's a rotation guy next year.

2247
02:04:10,160 --> 02:04:13,280
Speaker 1: Hey, for what reason was Michael Potter available? In other words,

2248
02:04:13,280 --> 02:04:15,440
Speaker 1: I think he's played really well. He can shoot. I mean,

2249
02:04:15,440 --> 02:04:18,520
Speaker 1: he's got a nice shot, he's pretty active. He seems

2250
02:04:18,520 --> 02:04:20,960
Speaker 1: to be a really smart rebounder, if that may, if

2251
02:04:21,240 --> 02:04:24,480
Speaker 1: there's such a thing, and I'm just surprised that he

2252
02:04:24,760 --> 02:04:27,600
Speaker 1: was readily available and that somebody else had not gotten

2253
02:04:27,680 --> 02:04:28,960
Speaker 1: him into their rotation.

2254
02:04:30,360 --> 02:04:32,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think that there arson flaws there.

2255
02:04:32,440 --> 02:04:34,080
Speaker 5: I mean, he's not a great pick and roll defender,

2256
02:04:34,120 --> 02:04:35,760
Speaker 5: for instance. I mean, I think that's the thing that

2257
02:04:35,840 --> 02:04:38,520
Speaker 5: stands out. You know, he's a little bit slow floated,

2258
02:04:39,160 --> 02:04:41,560
Speaker 5: so if you're bringing him into actions the whole lot,

2259
02:04:41,840 --> 02:04:44,080
Speaker 5: that's an area that he can get exposed. So I

2260
02:04:44,080 --> 02:04:47,200
Speaker 5: imagine if you see that enough, then that stands out

2261
02:04:47,200 --> 02:04:48,600
Speaker 5: to you. But yeah, I mean, to your point's shooting

2262
02:04:48,640 --> 02:04:51,080
Speaker 5: forty one point four percent from the floor, you know,

2263
02:04:51,160 --> 02:04:52,840
Speaker 5: rebounding at a really good rate. I got to see

2264
02:04:52,880 --> 02:04:55,160
Speaker 5: his per thirty six and pulling up his basketball reference

2265
02:04:55,160 --> 02:04:58,280
Speaker 5: page right here. But it's I mean, it's good. Was

2266
02:04:58,320 --> 02:05:01,320
Speaker 5: he per thirty six? He's at eight point five rebounds? Uh,

2267
02:05:01,360 --> 02:05:03,400
Speaker 5: he had eleven point one at Utah, And you know,

2268
02:05:03,440 --> 02:05:06,120
Speaker 5: I mean he's obviously been in some weird spaces as

2269
02:05:06,120 --> 02:05:08,320
Speaker 5: far as just having an opportunity to step in. I

2270
02:05:08,320 --> 02:05:10,880
Speaker 5: do think the Team USA experience helped him out a

2271
02:05:10,880 --> 02:05:13,040
Speaker 5: whole lot. But I think he just missed making San

2272
02:05:13,040 --> 02:05:16,680
Speaker 5: Antonio's roster. You know, they've got certainly some guys at

2273
02:05:16,680 --> 02:05:19,240
Speaker 5: the five. You know, certainly you know wemb for one,

2274
02:05:19,560 --> 02:05:21,600
Speaker 5: but you know, Luke Cornett and I think some other

2275
02:05:21,640 --> 02:05:24,480
Speaker 5: bodies that are pretty useful, uh, you know, at the five.

2276
02:05:24,520 --> 02:05:26,200
Speaker 5: And he was you know, he ended up on the

2277
02:05:26,240 --> 02:05:30,080
Speaker 5: G League squad on the Austin Spurs. So I think

2278
02:05:30,120 --> 02:05:31,120
Speaker 5: he's he's in that.

2279
02:05:32,200 --> 02:05:33,960
Speaker 4: He like, he's in that.

2280
02:05:33,840 --> 02:05:36,560
Speaker 5: Realm of fives that are going to go back and forth.

2281
02:05:36,560 --> 02:05:38,840
Speaker 5: He's basically to you know, to borrow a baseball term,

2282
02:05:38,880 --> 02:05:41,800
Speaker 5: he's kind of a quadruple A guy. But that means

2283
02:05:41,880 --> 02:05:43,320
Speaker 5: that means he can play for a lot of people,

2284
02:05:43,840 --> 02:05:45,240
Speaker 5: and he is shooting a lot better. I mean, I

2285
02:05:45,240 --> 02:05:47,640
Speaker 5: think he shot the thirty one point six percent for

2286
02:05:47,800 --> 02:05:50,040
Speaker 5: Utah last year. He's at forty one point four percent

2287
02:05:50,120 --> 02:05:52,320
Speaker 5: I mean from three uh this year, so he's he's

2288
02:05:52,360 --> 02:05:54,440
Speaker 5: been a lot more effective shooting the basketball from outside

2289
02:05:54,480 --> 02:05:56,560
Speaker 5: than he was a year ago. So I think that's

2290
02:05:57,000 --> 02:05:59,640
Speaker 5: that that's a significant step that he's made, and I

2291
02:05:59,640 --> 02:06:01,320
Speaker 5: think some that comes from being able to play more.

2292
02:06:01,560 --> 02:06:03,400
Speaker 5: You know, it's been passing the ball really well. I mean,

2293
02:06:03,560 --> 02:06:05,640
Speaker 5: I think he's had more of an opportunity to show out.

2294
02:06:05,640 --> 02:06:07,360
Speaker 5: But I think part of it, I think was just

2295
02:06:07,760 --> 02:06:09,640
Speaker 5: he's the type of guy that can get caught in

2296
02:06:09,680 --> 02:06:11,240
Speaker 5: the numbers game because he's going to be a third

2297
02:06:11,280 --> 02:06:14,200
Speaker 5: center wherever he's at, and I think San Antonio might

2298
02:06:14,200 --> 02:06:15,560
Speaker 5: have just had too many guys for him to be

2299
02:06:15,600 --> 02:06:16,040
Speaker 5: one of them.

2300
02:06:16,400 --> 02:06:21,240
Speaker 1: You know, the Sacramento I've only Dustin driven through it

2301
02:06:21,360 --> 02:06:25,440
Speaker 1: kind of around it. For that matter. I'm always fascinated

2302
02:06:25,440 --> 02:06:27,080
Speaker 1: by this rich na I used to do a really

2303
02:06:27,120 --> 02:06:29,240
Speaker 1: good job when he would be opening this time of

2304
02:06:29,360 --> 02:06:32,440
Speaker 1: year when the NCAA tournament would come about in Indiana

2305
02:06:32,560 --> 02:06:35,120
Speaker 1: or Purdue would get seated to some you know, out

2306
02:06:35,280 --> 02:06:37,520
Speaker 1: weirder city or whatever else. He would always do a

2307
02:06:37,640 --> 02:06:40,040
Speaker 1: story to kind of give you a feel or a

2308
02:06:40,080 --> 02:06:43,600
Speaker 1: taste of the city where he was Sacramento has got

2309
02:06:43,640 --> 02:06:45,880
Speaker 1: to be the NBA city that the fewest people have

2310
02:06:45,960 --> 02:06:51,160
Speaker 1: actually visited. Honestly, what's it like? Like is downtown Sacramento

2311
02:06:51,280 --> 02:06:54,040
Speaker 1: similar to downtown Indie, Smaller, bigger, same feel.

2312
02:06:55,520 --> 02:06:58,240
Speaker 5: It's a similar feel part of it because it's the

2313
02:06:58,280 --> 02:07:01,520
Speaker 5: state capitol and it doesn't feel like the other California

2314
02:07:01,600 --> 02:07:04,200
Speaker 5: city is much at all. But you know, it's it's

2315
02:07:04,240 --> 02:07:06,920
Speaker 5: relatively nice weather. I'm trying to trying to piece this

2316
02:07:06,960 --> 02:07:09,520
Speaker 5: all together, so I always stay at the same for

2317
02:07:09,560 --> 02:07:11,920
Speaker 5: some reason, this place is like affordable but nice.

2318
02:07:12,080 --> 02:07:15,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like there's a.

2319
02:07:15,560 --> 02:07:18,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Halvard Johnson. Oh my god, I'm in trouble,

2320
02:07:18,720 --> 02:07:22,080
Speaker 5: but yeah. So I'm like a quarter mile from where

2321
02:07:22,080 --> 02:07:26,280
Speaker 5: the A's are playing their games now, which is interesting,

2322
02:07:26,320 --> 02:07:29,240
Speaker 5: Like you can see some level, like if you watch

2323
02:07:29,280 --> 02:07:31,760
Speaker 5: an A's game on Emiary TV, because god knows, they're

2324
02:07:31,760 --> 02:07:34,600
Speaker 5: never going to be on national television, but you know,

2325
02:07:34,640 --> 02:07:36,440
Speaker 5: you can see some of the surrounding area and it's

2326
02:07:36,480 --> 02:07:38,520
Speaker 5: it's it's pretty random because it's a triple A ballfield,

2327
02:07:38,560 --> 02:07:41,520
Speaker 5: but that they're just repurposing for the A's right now

2328
02:07:41,520 --> 02:07:44,200
Speaker 5: as they're in transition to Vegas. But it's you know,

2329
02:07:44,360 --> 02:07:47,640
Speaker 5: like the area of westac is fine. There's some sort

2330
02:07:47,680 --> 02:07:49,600
Speaker 5: of sketchy territory. I'm like, I don't know, I'm like

2331
02:07:49,640 --> 02:07:53,160
Speaker 5: right by a bowling alley and like three much sketchier hotels.

2332
02:07:54,000 --> 02:07:58,800
Speaker 5: But you so there's this big sort of like, uh,

2333
02:07:59,480 --> 02:08:02,240
Speaker 5: let me see here. There's uh, there's a bridge that

2334
02:08:02,280 --> 02:08:04,800
Speaker 5: goes across the Sacramento River. That's it's it's a little

2335
02:08:04,800 --> 02:08:06,920
Speaker 5: bit iconic. Basically, it's got like this sort of big

2336
02:08:06,920 --> 02:08:08,920
Speaker 5: and yellow and like on the other side of it,

2337
02:08:08,960 --> 02:08:11,400
Speaker 5: they have this sort of like old Sacramento area that's

2338
02:08:11,440 --> 02:08:13,720
Speaker 5: like it's like kind of it's got like an old

2339
02:08:13,760 --> 02:08:16,480
Speaker 5: Western feel, you know to it that I mean, I

2340
02:08:16,480 --> 02:08:18,000
Speaker 5: think they sort of build this stuff up. I don't

2341
02:08:18,000 --> 02:08:19,400
Speaker 5: know how much of it is sort of original and

2342
02:08:19,400 --> 02:08:21,040
Speaker 5: how much of it is and it's a little touristy,

2343
02:08:21,320 --> 02:08:22,960
Speaker 5: but it's like sort of right on the river there.

2344
02:08:23,320 --> 02:08:23,440
Speaker 2: Uh.

2345
02:08:23,560 --> 02:08:25,480
Speaker 5: And then when you keep going on like the Capitol

2346
02:08:25,560 --> 02:08:27,520
Speaker 5: Mall Road, I mean you you run right into the

2347
02:08:27,560 --> 02:08:30,440
Speaker 5: California State Capital and everything there is sort of what

2348
02:08:30,520 --> 02:08:33,440
Speaker 5: you expect, you know, in terms of what's around a

2349
02:08:33,480 --> 02:08:35,320
Speaker 5: capital building. A lot of stuff that's just you know,

2350
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Speaker 5: sort of there to cater to you know, government employees,

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Speaker 5: you know, state congress people, that kind of thing. You know,

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Speaker 5: your capital grills, you're pretty pretty high end, you know,

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Speaker 5: but chain restaurants, you know that sort of thing. And so,

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Speaker 5: I mean it's it's pretty, it looks nice, but it

2355
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Speaker 5: is there. There's a lot of Indie. It is the

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Speaker 5: closest thing to what would happen if you just picked

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Speaker 5: up Indianapolis and put it in California. It's the closest

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Speaker 5: thing to what that would be.

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Speaker 1: It is basically halfway between San Francisco and Tahoe. That

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Speaker 1: much I know as well, which is how I went

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Speaker 1: through it because I was going from San Francisco to Tahoe.

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Speaker 1: But and it's also where eight is Enough took place,

2363
02:09:10,920 --> 02:09:13,720
Speaker 1: which is the best part about it. Dustin will have

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Speaker 1: the coverage tonight Pacers and Kings in the race towards

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02:09:17,640 --> 02:09:21,120
Speaker 1: staying in that bottom four basically, and we'll see whether

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02:09:21,240 --> 02:09:23,960
Speaker 1: or not, for example, inter nim Hard gets out on

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Speaker 1: the floor. But either way, all the coverage therefore in

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Speaker 1: the Star. You don't think so huh, You're all right,

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Speaker 1: We'll see dust I appreciate the time as.

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Speaker 5: Always, Thanks as always, thinks you had the game.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy by the way, that kind of a breakfast tomorrow

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Speaker 1: with the Howard Johnson wonderful. They've got great bacon and

2373
02:09:41,640 --> 02:09:43,840
Speaker 1: you can make your own surreal and omelet's the whole deal.

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Speaker 1: Did you ever watch eight? Is it enough? Betty? No

2375
02:09:47,360 --> 02:09:50,600
Speaker 1: great show took place in Sacramento. That's the only knowledge

2376
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Speaker 1: I had of Sacramento when I was a kid. J

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Speaker 1: ANDV is here. He will be with us for the crossover,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by the good guys at Love Heating

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Speaker 1: Their Love Dash HVAC dot com is the website you want.

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Speaker 1: Seven three, five three, twenty one forty one is the

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Speaker 1: telephone of bris Eddie.

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Speaker 6: Would you like to know the answer to the trivia question? Jake,

2383
02:10:06,080 --> 02:10:09,040
Speaker 6: We do have a correct answer. Only two people have

2384
02:10:09,720 --> 02:10:13,520
Speaker 6: given a right answer. That is a lot of incorrect

2385
02:10:13,520 --> 02:10:16,600
Speaker 6: replies to the trivia question of before the answer, give

2386
02:10:16,640 --> 02:10:18,520
Speaker 6: me one hint. I was gonna say, I'm just re

2387
02:10:19,360 --> 02:10:21,960
Speaker 6: giving the question. Is the last quarterback to be taken

2388
02:10:21,960 --> 02:10:24,960
Speaker 6: first overall and not start Week one in the NFL?

2389
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Speaker 1: I'll be following and it was not injury related? Not

2390
02:10:28,520 --> 02:10:32,360
Speaker 1: injury related. No, is the player still playing in the NFL.

2391
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Speaker 7: He is indeed.

2392
02:10:33,240 --> 02:10:35,040
Speaker 1: Is he playing with the team who selected him? No,

2393
02:10:35,120 --> 02:10:39,520
Speaker 1: he's not. Okay, I'll give you my guest next. Okay,

2394
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give a couple of guests this here.

2395
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Speaker 7: Are you ready, Yes, I'm ready.

2396
02:10:44,880 --> 02:10:47,160
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this other hint. If you and

2397
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Speaker 1: I were going to go this December and watch this

2398
02:10:51,200 --> 02:10:55,560
Speaker 1: guy play a home game, would we pack a parka No,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to go with Baker Mayfield?

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Speaker 6: You would be correct. Yes, can you name the guy

2401
02:11:03,480 --> 02:11:10,000
Speaker 6: who started? Okay, there's the big question in Cleveland, boy.

2402
02:11:10,160 --> 02:11:12,200
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a tough one because Cleveland has had

2403
02:11:12,360 --> 02:11:17,200
Speaker 1: so many go through there. Right, what franchise was this

2404
02:11:17,280 --> 02:11:19,680
Speaker 1: quarterback most known for being a part of.

2405
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Speaker 7: Oh Boy, He has been a journeyman.

2406
02:11:26,160 --> 02:11:29,360
Speaker 6: He was a starter for one team and had an

2407
02:11:29,440 --> 02:11:33,120
Speaker 6: unfortunate accident happen and lost his job to a guy

2408
02:11:33,160 --> 02:11:34,840
Speaker 6: that was just drafted.

2409
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Speaker 7: In the first round of that year. This happened.

2410
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Speaker 3: He was.

2411
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Speaker 7: Recently in a big market.

2412
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Speaker 1: He's still active. Yes, it rules out Ryan Fitzpatrick, which

2413
02:11:55,200 --> 02:11:57,520
Speaker 1: would have been a safe guest. Jeff Garcia would have

2414
02:11:57,520 --> 02:11:58,280
Speaker 1: been a safe guess.

2415
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Speaker 6: This quarterback that started in place of Baker Mayfield is

2416
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Speaker 6: still in the league.

2417
02:12:03,320 --> 02:12:09,760
Speaker 7: He is a free agent. He started games last season.

2418
02:12:12,680 --> 02:12:15,880
Speaker 1: So you said he started his career and was off

2419
02:12:15,920 --> 02:12:18,360
Speaker 1: to a good start and then had an unfortunate accident.

2420
02:12:18,720 --> 02:12:21,680
Speaker 6: No, he was with a team and he was the

2421
02:12:21,720 --> 02:12:25,120
Speaker 6: starter for that season. Okay, this team had taken a

2422
02:12:25,240 --> 02:12:29,760
Speaker 6: quarterback in the draft prior to the season, so that

2423
02:12:29,800 --> 02:12:35,560
Speaker 6: April and he was sitting behind this veteran learning from him. Right,

2424
02:12:36,480 --> 02:12:40,800
Speaker 6: was thrusted into the starting lineup because of an unfortunate

2425
02:12:40,960 --> 02:12:44,520
Speaker 6: accident with this quarterback who started Week one for the

2426
02:12:44,560 --> 02:12:46,200
Speaker 6: Cleveland Browns in twenty eighteen.

2427
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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm confused by that hint as to who the

2428
02:12:50,560 --> 02:12:57,120
Speaker 1: accident involved, but all right, so go ahead and hit

2429
02:12:57,160 --> 02:13:00,840
Speaker 1: me on who the guy was that started, Tyrod Taylor. Yeah,

2430
02:13:01,080 --> 02:13:03,040
Speaker 1: I would not have guessed that in one thousand years.

2431
02:13:03,080 --> 02:13:05,720
Speaker 6: Well, so, the accident that Tyrod Taylor had is he

2432
02:13:05,800 --> 02:13:11,320
Speaker 6: got he was getting treatment and got his lung I

2433
02:13:11,320 --> 02:13:14,520
Speaker 6: think it was as lung punctured by a needle, and

2434
02:13:14,560 --> 02:13:19,480
Speaker 6: therefore he could not start for the Chargers, and Justin

2435
02:13:19,560 --> 02:13:22,960
Speaker 6: Herbert was thrust it into the starting position against the

2436
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Speaker 6: Kansas City Chiefs, I think. But Justin Herbert was the

2437
02:13:26,560 --> 02:13:29,440
Speaker 6: guy who replaced Tyrod Taylor comes in lights it up

2438
02:13:29,440 --> 02:13:32,800
Speaker 6: as a rookie, and everything has happened.

2439
02:13:32,600 --> 02:13:35,680
Speaker 1: To Tyrod Taylor and I have no recollection to him

2440
02:13:35,680 --> 02:13:37,240
Speaker 1: in Cleveland, to be honest with you, but he's kind of.

2441
02:13:38,080 --> 02:13:40,320
Speaker 6: Well, you don't remember Tyrod Taylor coming in off the

2442
02:13:40,360 --> 02:13:42,840
Speaker 6: bench against the Colts like three years ago in that

2443
02:13:42,920 --> 02:13:45,360
Speaker 6: game where it was like forty six forty three.

2444
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Speaker 1: There are so many players that you could put in

2445
02:13:48,120 --> 02:13:48,800
Speaker 1: that category.

2446
02:13:48,920 --> 02:13:51,440
Speaker 6: Michael Pittman Junior I remember had a huge touchdown in

2447
02:13:51,480 --> 02:13:53,880
Speaker 6: that game for Jilli Vullock. That was the debut of

2448
02:13:53,880 --> 02:13:55,640
Speaker 6: the Indiana Knights uniforms.

2449
02:13:56,280 --> 02:13:59,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there we go. That was an outstanding trivia question.

2450
02:13:59,640 --> 02:14:00,480
Speaker 1: He came out with them.

2451
02:14:00,880 --> 02:14:01,240
Speaker 7: Thank you.

2452
02:14:02,400 --> 02:14:04,040
Speaker 1: I mean, not a bad trivia question at all.

2453
02:14:04,200 --> 02:14:04,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2454
02:14:04,440 --> 02:14:07,160
Speaker 7: We had two people get it right. The first person

2455
02:14:07,720 --> 02:14:09,640
Speaker 7: to correctly guess was Riley.

2456
02:14:10,520 --> 02:14:12,640
Speaker 1: What were the other common answers? Uh?

2457
02:14:14,000 --> 02:14:16,520
Speaker 6: So if you I know who tried to Google to

2458
02:14:16,520 --> 02:14:19,200
Speaker 6: get the answer, because if we google it, it will

2459
02:14:19,240 --> 02:14:24,480
Speaker 6: say that it was Carson Palmer, which is incorrect.

2460
02:14:25,680 --> 02:14:27,920
Speaker 1: Was he not a week one starter or it's just

2461
02:14:27,920 --> 02:14:28,760
Speaker 1: been done since then?

2462
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Speaker 6: It has been done since then. JaMarcus Russell Alex Smith

2463
02:14:35,840 --> 02:14:37,960
Speaker 6: Wes was the other person who got the question right

2464
02:14:38,000 --> 02:14:40,600
Speaker 6: with Baker Mayfield. Ryan Leaf was another.

2465
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Speaker 1: I remember vividly, and anybody that remembers this and doesn't

2466
02:14:48,440 --> 02:14:53,720
Speaker 1: confess to it is lying. I remember the preseason game

2467
02:14:54,240 --> 02:14:59,000
Speaker 1: of ninety eight when Ryan Leaf and the Chargers came

2468
02:14:59,000 --> 02:15:02,480
Speaker 1: into the Dome to go against Peyton Manning and the Colts,

2469
02:15:03,280 --> 02:15:06,840
Speaker 1: and I remember Ryan Leaf at one point had like

2470
02:15:06,880 --> 02:15:09,600
Speaker 1: a quarterback draw or a quarterback sneak and scored a

2471
02:15:09,640 --> 02:15:17,320
Speaker 1: touchdown and like very demonstra like demonstratively, is that the

2472
02:15:17,360 --> 02:15:22,160
Speaker 1: right word, spiked the football in the end zone, emphatically

2473
02:15:22,360 --> 02:15:28,320
Speaker 1: spiked the football, and the vast majority of people sitting

2474
02:15:28,320 --> 02:15:32,000
Speaker 1: around were like, man, we took the wrong guy, took

2475
02:15:32,040 --> 02:15:34,080
Speaker 1: the wrong guy. Should have gone with Ryan Leaf. He

2476
02:15:34,240 --> 02:15:38,080
Speaker 1: was really good in the first I mean really until

2477
02:15:38,120 --> 02:15:41,840
Speaker 1: things got real, and then when he got into he

2478
02:15:41,920 --> 02:15:45,040
Speaker 1: got pulled. At some point there was some sort of

2479
02:15:45,080 --> 02:15:48,200
Speaker 1: a reason why he did not finish a game. And

2480
02:15:49,280 --> 02:15:52,160
Speaker 1: there was a print writer from San Diego that kind

2481
02:15:52,160 --> 02:15:54,840
Speaker 1: of looked like Terry Hutchins that went up and was

2482
02:15:54,880 --> 02:15:57,000
Speaker 1: talking to Ryan Leaf, and that's when Leif jumped up

2483
02:15:57,040 --> 02:15:58,600
Speaker 1: and got in his face and yelled at him and

2484
02:15:58,600 --> 02:16:00,920
Speaker 1: told him to knock it off and kind of made

2485
02:16:00,960 --> 02:16:04,400
Speaker 1: a big scene, and that truthfully was the beginning of

2486
02:16:04,440 --> 02:16:06,520
Speaker 1: the end, and then from it just it did not

2487
02:16:06,640 --> 02:16:09,760
Speaker 1: take long before it was like, man, this guy is

2488
02:16:09,920 --> 02:16:12,440
Speaker 1: just not equipped and ready for that position and ready

2489
02:16:12,440 --> 02:16:14,120
Speaker 1: to be a starter in the NFL. He just looked

2490
02:16:14,160 --> 02:16:17,600
Speaker 1: like he could not mentally handle it.

2491
02:16:18,120 --> 02:16:22,960
Speaker 6: Jordan Schultz, Jake NFL Insider, used to be with CBS

2492
02:16:22,960 --> 02:16:24,640
Speaker 6: Sports Ye now does his own kind of thing. We

2493
02:16:24,680 --> 02:16:26,280
Speaker 6: got him on the show once. Maybe try to get

2494
02:16:26,320 --> 02:16:29,280
Speaker 6: him on here on the coming days now that I

2495
02:16:29,320 --> 02:16:31,560
Speaker 6: think of this, He with an update less than a

2496
02:16:31,560 --> 02:16:35,200
Speaker 6: minute ago. The Colts and Daniel Jones have made progress

2497
02:16:35,480 --> 02:16:39,200
Speaker 6: on a long term deal, but I've not finalized anything yet.

2498
02:16:39,560 --> 02:16:42,520
Speaker 1: Progress on a long term deal and again I we

2499
02:16:42,600 --> 02:16:45,039
Speaker 1: mentioned yesterday and so now I'm prepared to say we

2500
02:16:45,080 --> 02:16:47,039
Speaker 1: will extend it by one more day that by the

2501
02:16:47,080 --> 02:16:49,320
Speaker 1: time we do the crossover tomorrow with J and B,

2502
02:16:49,480 --> 02:16:52,039
Speaker 1: I think there will be a deal in place. But

2503
02:16:52,160 --> 02:16:54,640
Speaker 1: John has arrived. The Crossover brought to you by the

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02:16:54,640 --> 02:16:58,240
Speaker 1: good guys at Love Heating and Air lovedsh hvac dot com. John,

2505
02:16:58,280 --> 02:17:00,760
Speaker 1: what's on the big pome? Dressing like James today?

2506
02:17:00,760 --> 02:17:04,160
Speaker 8: Do you notice that Blaine Roll a little bit sick

2507
02:17:04,200 --> 02:17:08,920
Speaker 8: and tired of the mister wonderful you got off plane, got.

2508
02:17:08,760 --> 02:17:11,600
Speaker 1: The jeans, the leather belt and the polo rock and roll.

2509
02:17:11,800 --> 02:17:14,280
Speaker 8: Laney has a choir concert and I'm a role by

2510
02:17:14,280 --> 02:17:15,480
Speaker 8: addressed as James Spader.

2511
02:17:15,879 --> 02:17:16,160
Speaker 7: Nice.

2512
02:17:16,480 --> 02:17:19,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, the cool Jane. That the cool James Spader.

2513
02:17:19,400 --> 02:17:22,000
Speaker 8: We love, not the one we knew here most recently,

2514
02:17:22,000 --> 02:17:23,800
Speaker 8: but the one that was, you know, one of the

2515
02:17:23,840 --> 02:17:25,680
Speaker 8: eighties a holes.

2516
02:17:25,400 --> 02:17:26,640
Speaker 7: If you will, and I love it.

2517
02:17:26,760 --> 02:17:29,640
Speaker 1: You definitely have to clarify you do, Yeah, you have difference.

2518
02:17:29,920 --> 02:17:30,800
Speaker 1: What's on the big show?

2519
02:17:31,080 --> 02:17:33,360
Speaker 8: We'll do Spiro didas uh, he's going to do the

2520
02:17:33,440 --> 02:17:37,520
Speaker 8: NCAA Tournament. Does obviously TNT. Does you know NBA? Well,

2521
02:17:37,600 --> 02:17:40,120
Speaker 8: we'll do that. Talk a little football with Spirou. I've

2522
02:17:40,120 --> 02:17:45,039
Speaker 8: got Mike Decorsi. We'll talk bracketology, Big Ten Tournament and

2523
02:17:45,280 --> 02:17:46,879
Speaker 8: Greg's going to join us with a lot of other

2524
02:17:46,920 --> 02:17:47,480
Speaker 8: stuff too.

2525
02:17:48,040 --> 02:17:50,840
Speaker 1: Going to get real right for a lot of teams.

2526
02:17:50,879 --> 02:17:56,400
Speaker 1: And this is one of the worst college basketball seasons

2527
02:17:56,440 --> 02:17:59,280
Speaker 1: in terms of Indiana teams we have seen. Is it

2528
02:17:59,360 --> 02:18:03,320
Speaker 1: not in and and nothing against Purdue. You're still probably

2529
02:18:03,320 --> 02:18:05,039
Speaker 1: going to be a three seed, but it's still a

2530
02:18:05,080 --> 02:18:08,920
Speaker 1: massive disappointment. It wouldn't surprise me to produce a four now, right,

2531
02:18:09,000 --> 02:18:11,080
Speaker 1: that'd be something. I mean, you those five home games,

2532
02:18:11,080 --> 02:18:14,199
Speaker 1: they got some impressive wins. But but it's just also

2533
02:18:14,200 --> 02:18:18,080
Speaker 1: at the same time, you know your hard press. Just

2534
02:18:18,160 --> 02:18:21,600
Speaker 1: for example, John I was saying earlier, I mean Florida

2535
02:18:21,640 --> 02:18:23,760
Speaker 1: for Florida, I end up being a one seed. And

2536
02:18:23,879 --> 02:18:25,560
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but like you hardly hear

2537
02:18:25,560 --> 02:18:27,520
Speaker 1: about Florida all year because they weren't very good at

2538
02:18:27,520 --> 02:18:29,440
Speaker 1: the beginning. This is the time of year where Florida

2539
02:18:29,480 --> 02:18:31,120
Speaker 1: every year, all of a sudden, you're like, wait, they're

2540
02:18:31,120 --> 02:18:33,760
Speaker 1: doing what is that seven foot twelve guy gonna get

2541
02:18:33,800 --> 02:18:35,560
Speaker 1: off the bench from them? Oscar Row?

2542
02:18:35,720 --> 02:18:36,320
Speaker 7: Was that his name?

2543
02:18:36,440 --> 02:18:39,760
Speaker 1: Olivier Row? Or yeah, no, Toliverer isn't it? Does he

2544
02:18:39,800 --> 02:18:41,959
Speaker 1: go buy Olivier? I don't know, but he, I mean

2545
02:18:41,959 --> 02:18:45,000
Speaker 1: he honestly is yeah, what is he? Seven eleven? Seven

2546
02:18:45,000 --> 02:18:45,280
Speaker 1: to ten?

2547
02:18:45,640 --> 02:18:48,760
Speaker 8: He's pretty Yeah, he doesn't have to jump to dunk it.

2548
02:18:48,800 --> 02:18:51,040
Speaker 8: That's like it looks like us on an Earth.

2549
02:18:51,080 --> 02:18:53,320
Speaker 1: It's amazing because he's played a total of like three

2550
02:18:53,360 --> 02:18:56,320
Speaker 1: minutes all year. Doesn't it seem like nothing else? You

2551
02:18:56,360 --> 02:18:58,240
Speaker 1: could just put him in for an out of bound play.

2552
02:18:58,800 --> 02:19:00,760
Speaker 8: You know, it's all cool right now, but one of

2553
02:19:00,760 --> 02:19:03,040
Speaker 8: these days here, relatively soon, he's not going to be

2554
02:19:03,080 --> 02:19:03,960
Speaker 8: able to move around.

2555
02:19:04,160 --> 02:19:04,480
Speaker 4: I know.

2556
02:19:04,879 --> 02:19:07,600
Speaker 8: That's what's sad about that, because he is that stinking

2557
02:19:07,640 --> 02:19:10,640
Speaker 8: big hey. By the way, number forty on this date

2558
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Speaker 8: back in nineteen eighty one.

2559
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Speaker 1: You might be surprised.

2560
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Speaker 8: Very popular album, honestly, maybe the most popular of the

2561
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Speaker 8: decade of the nineteen eighties, and it came after a

2562
02:19:23,680 --> 02:19:28,200
Speaker 8: not so subtle change in lead singers. Okay, so that's

2563
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Speaker 8: got to be one of two bands, right, well, I

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Speaker 8: don't know. I mean eighty Joy Division, what's that? Joy

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Speaker 8: Division had a change in lead singer too, and then

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Speaker 8: they transitioned out with Genesis. It is not Genesis.

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Speaker 1: It wouldn't be Van Halen. It would not be Van Halen.

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Speaker 1: It would be ac DC.

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Speaker 8: Okay, Yeah, ac DC's Back in Black title track, number forty.

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Speaker 8: I never knew that it hit the top forty, number

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Speaker 8: forty on this date.

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Speaker 1: In nineteen eighty one. Nineteen eighty one, yeah, anyone, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: number four. I would have thought it'd be higher than

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Speaker 1: that number. I don't I didn't think it ever hit

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Speaker 1: It is funny though, some of the bands that you

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Speaker 1: that you look at and you are surprised to know

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Speaker 1: their highest charting single, Like, was it the highest charting

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Speaker 1: single for Kiss Beth?

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Speaker 8: Yes, easily unless it was something from the eighties, and

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Speaker 8: I'm pretty sure it was probably best from the nineteen

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Speaker 8: nineteen seventies. I know you've got a break right here.

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Speaker 8: But one final thing as well. Back in Black the

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Speaker 8: most popular album of the nineteen eighties, right, is it

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Speaker 8: a thriller? I think if you put into terms of

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Speaker 8: how much I still play today, well, it would be hard.

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Speaker 7: It'd be hard pressed to.

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Speaker 1: Be way up there. Yeah, at my I mean boy,

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Speaker 1: there were a lot of great ones, weren't there.

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Speaker 2: They were?

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Speaker 8: They were back in Black man. Everybody still request that

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Speaker 8: you better go. Eddie's going to get all the collar.

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Speaker 1: John's up next. We'll be back with you at noon tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to Quiring Company.