1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:00,760 Speaker 1: We are back. 2 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 2: It is a week five, I guess in the NFL 3 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 2: recap in week four, though Colts and Rams yesterday first 4 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 2: Colts loss of the season. A ton to get to 5 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 2: on today's podcast. Kevin Bowen, Mark Dyton with us again. Mark, 6 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 2: thank you for filling in. We greatly appreciate it. Thanks 7 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 2: for the ask, of course. Twenty seven twenty the final yesterday, 8 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: and you know, I did think the game largely lived 9 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: up to a lot of the hype. I thought that 10 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: looked like two playoff teams going back and forth at 11 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: each other, some definite goods, some definite bad some definite 12 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: stupidity that we will get to on today's podcast. But 13 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 2: I guess overall, you know, there's a little bit of 14 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,279 Speaker 2: house money feel I thought to yesterday. I mean, when 15 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: you win your first three games all in the AFC, 16 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: you can live with a three and one first quarter. 17 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 2: I think the stinging and the frustrating aspect yesterday is 18 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 2: damn It easily could have been a win, and a 19 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: lot of it was self inflicted. That's kind of how 20 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 2: I sit here and look at it again. Without two 21 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 2: year better players, three starters total, you more than hung 22 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: in there. You probably played better than the Rams at times. 23 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 2: But I think what hurts is eleven penalties. Ad Mitchell 24 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: Loui an Aroumo will get into all of it, Mark, 25 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 2: but that's what I think stings to it. You can 26 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: look a big picture and say, hey, three and one, 27 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 2: three and one, and that speaks for a lot of 28 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 2: it right now, but you know, just drinks a little 29 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 2: bit of the margin for air, and obviously your own 30 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: self infliction a lot to do with it. 31 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think if you would have looked ahead of 32 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: the season and said, Okay, of these first four games, 33 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: which one would be we feel the most comfortable to drop, 34 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: it would have been this one. Is the way that 35 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: you lost this one that makes it a little bitter 36 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: taste in your mouth on this Monday morning because you basically, 37 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: I mean you had it. You could have easily had 38 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: that game that could have been a win. It wasn't 39 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones' best performance, clearly, it wasn't a couple other 40 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: people's best performances, which we'll dive into in this podcast. 41 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: But after all that was said and done, all the penalties, 42 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: all that stuff, you still could have come out of 43 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: LA with victory. And I think that's what's more disappointing 44 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: is that it was there and they just went down 45 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: their leg in the end and they come out with loss. 46 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 2: Now and again that you can look at it definitely 47 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 2: glass half full, but it doesn't, in my opinion, doesn't 48 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: play a lesson. Just had immediate stink of that loss. 49 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: And you know how great of a road win over 50 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 2: Hall of fame quarterback. And you know, we'll see what 51 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 2: the career holds for Sean McVay. 52 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: All of that. 53 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 2: So, okay, Mark, we haven't done this all year, but 54 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 2: we will start with what I didn't like? What do 55 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 2: we got first on the did not like catag. 56 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: I'll give you one guess of what you didn't like. 57 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: I think it's what everybody is talking about this Monday morning, 58 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 1: and it's two letters, ad A D. 59 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 3: Mark. 60 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 2: I remember the Monday after Jonathan Taylor dropped the ball 61 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 2: in Denver last year, we did our show, I did 62 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 2: this podcast and I said something to the effect of, 63 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: what's so stunning to me that it was Taylor doing that? 64 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 2: Is that's a play I would expect ad Mitchell to do. 65 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 3: You know, your crystal ball out back then. 66 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 2: And lo and behold. Eight games later, someone said hold 67 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 2: your beer, yeah, Bowen, because you're going to get it 68 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 2: on the first potential touchdown of the career of ad Mitchell. 69 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 2: So it's not stunning to me that it was him. Obviously, 70 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 2: it's stunning in the nature of like, I cannot believe 71 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: we're talking about this play again. You got the full 72 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 2: Ady Mitchell experiment in those twelve seconds. If you haven't 73 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 2: watched the Colts at all, if you have heard about 74 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 2: this Adi Mitchell character, but you know nothing more than that, 75 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 2: you got it all right there. 76 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: It's a third and four. 77 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 2: If you watch the play unfold, Daniel Jones is literally 78 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 2: taking a fifty to fifty shot down the field, thirty 79 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 2: yards down the field to a covered ad Mitchell. That's 80 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 2: what they think of ad Mitchell. They think he's that 81 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 2: talented Patrick Sir tans Garden in week two. Oh, Ady 82 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 2: Mitchell on the field. We're taking a deep ball shot 83 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 2: to him. So it's the talent of him taking away 84 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 2: the fifty to fifty ball, spinning running down the sideline. 85 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: All of that is his incredible gifts and then the 86 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 2: frustration you see in him try to switch the ball, 87 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 2: switch hands on the goal line, and obviously the rest's 88 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 2: history will get into the holding penalty after that. But 89 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 2: I think what is obviously it's all frustrating, but you 90 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: know this and the tailor play. It's not like these 91 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: guys are reaching for the goal line. It's not like there, 92 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: you know, fourth and goal and they're stretching over the 93 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 2: pile you know, on a QB sneak situation like that. 94 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's showbody, yep, I mean that's what 95 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 2: it is. And I don't even know what I mean. Hell, 96 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 2: I don't even Jonathan Taylor did some dance. I kind 97 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: of forget it now. Who knows what Adie Mitchell even 98 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 2: would have done there had he gotten into the end 99 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: zone with an actual touchdown. But this is why he 100 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 2: played fifteen STAPs week one, why he played I think 101 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: goes seven STAPs week two. You just can't trust them, 102 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 2: you can't. And the holding penalty mark, I would argue, 103 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: is maybe more of the reason why you can't play him. 104 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 2: And I know hindsight's twenty twenty, but I thought he 105 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 2: should have been benched for a series or two after that. 106 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,559 Speaker 2: I thought Ashton DeLand should have been in the game. 107 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 2: Fox obviously had the camera on him a ton and 108 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 2: it was clear. His headspace was not very clear at all. 109 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 2: And you watch the holding penalty. To me, that's just 110 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: a guy that's not mentally locked in. Nope, that corner's 111 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: just sitting there. The corner's not stressing the. 112 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,559 Speaker 1: Whiteout out at all. It was a total unnecessary holding 113 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: car right, and he just runs by the corner and 114 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: then he's like, oh shit, I forgot about him. Let 115 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: me reach back with two hands and just grab him 116 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: to the ground. It's poor fundamentals, it's poor technique, it's 117 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: poor recognition of exactly what is in front of him. 118 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: And that's why Alex Pierce plays as many snaps as 119 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: he does. Michael Whitman Junior plays as many snaps as 120 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: he does. It's because when Mitchell's on the field, they 121 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: literally have to throw the football to him or else 122 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: they consider him a bit of a liability. And boy, 123 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: that was a dream start to that drive too, where 124 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: he gets a holding penalty. You got worn down the seam, 125 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: you got that big penalty on the Rams, the blow 126 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: to the head on Warren or the unnecessary roughness on him. 127 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: You got that defensive pass interference like on a second 128 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: and eighteen, and you were in such a great position 129 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: there to potentially win the game, and obviously all of 130 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: that unfold, so pretty obvious, Mark, what my number one 131 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: is of what I didn't like. Yeah, they say in 132 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: the NFL like the best availability is the best ability 133 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: is availability. I would argue that the second best ability 134 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: is reliability and they don't have that in ad Mitchell. 135 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: And like you said, you could see that evident when 136 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: they want him, they want to harness that talent on 137 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: the deep balls like they did, but then you can 138 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: see him that ten seconds later when he lets go 139 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: of the ball. That's like, that's why you're not out 140 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: there very much because we just you can't rely on 141 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: him because there's either gonna be that, or there's gonna 142 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: be the holding penalty, or there's gonna be something like 143 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: last season where he he would get the ball wide 144 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: open and he just wouldn't hold on because he'd to 145 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: make a business decision because there's a defender coming towards him. 146 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: So it's stuff like that where it just drives you crazy. 147 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: And we got the full ad Mitchell experience yesterday, and 148 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: I think that's a really good point you make. Mark. 149 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: There's multiple branches to this. 150 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 2: Ad Mitchell lack of trust last year, was not in 151 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 2: the right place at the right time or drops. And 152 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 2: now you see the celebration, you see the holding like 153 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 2: those sorts of things that start to add up. And 154 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 2: you know, we talked a little bit on the Wednesday podcast, 155 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 2: what a huge moment for Adi Mitchell's future on Sunday 156 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 2: Alec Pearce is not playing Alec Piers in a contract here? 157 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: How much money you paying Daniel Jones. 158 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 2: You know, there's all these financial ramifications of this season potentially, 159 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 2: and if Adi Mitchell ascends, then he could be in 160 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 2: more of an Alec Pearce role. And you know, who 161 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 2: knows if Alec Piris wants to be back here. So 162 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 2: you know, all of those things I think are at 163 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 2: play here with Mitchell's effort from yesterday and just a 164 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 2: couple other things to add Okay, now what's the punishment 165 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: moving forward? You know, again, I would have probably benched 166 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: him for a series or two. You know, I think 167 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: you'd make quite a statement if you had him an 168 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 2: active for Sunday. Obviously Pierce's availability would play into that. 169 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 2: That is something I would definitely explore. I don't think 170 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 2: necessarily the cult will do that, but it is a 171 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 2: question that I would have. And then the other one 172 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 2: too is I go back to college mark with Mitchell 173 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 2: and I know we've talked about this a lot since 174 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 2: he was drafted. You know, he started his career at Georgia, 175 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 2: then played at Texas. He played in five college football 176 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 2: playoff games. He scored a touchdown in all five. 177 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:16,239 Speaker 1: Of those games. 178 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: That is a wildly impressive stat on the biggest stages 179 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 2: in college football. You're catching a touchdown in the semi 180 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: final final games. Yet in those games he only had 181 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 2: seven other catches in five games. That's a little over 182 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: catch a game outside of touchdowns. It's like, wait a minute, 183 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 2: this dude's talented enough to catch a touchdown in all 184 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 2: these games, but he's not consistent enough to have I 185 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 2: don't know, three. 186 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: Catches in each of these games. Like something's not adding up, right. 187 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 2: That's why he fell, you know, part of this is 188 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 2: why he fell to where he did in the draft. 189 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 2: And what had ten wideouts or whatever it was. 190 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what the number. That's why he's wearing the number. Yes, right, 191 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: so he's got the chip on his shoulder, but he 192 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: just doesn't use that to his advantage. No, not at all. 193 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 2: So yes, obviously, first thing I didn't like clearly Adie Mitchell. 194 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: Okay, this would probably be number two on a lot 195 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 1: of people's but we're going to talk about it too. 196 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 3: Lou An a rumo in his defense. 197 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 2: So to me, Mark and I know that it's something 198 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 2: that we debated a little bit on a morning show. 199 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 2: I think you could make the argument that some of 200 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 2: the if you just want to boil it down, what 201 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 2: was stupid or on Sunday the cold, tiving ten minute 202 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 2: on the field or Adie Mitchell dropping the ball at. 203 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: The goal line, it might. 204 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 2: Be the ten minute on the field. Yeah, you brought 205 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 2: it up like how many eyes are on that? 206 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 3: Yeah? 207 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: Adi Mitchell is a is a personal decision, He's a 208 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: singular person. The fact that ten defenders were on the 209 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: field for that two two at well go ahead touchdown right, 210 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: that is because there are literally hundreds of eyes that 211 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 1: didn't see that there was ten defenders on that field. 212 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 2: So it looked like and I've gone back and watched 213 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 2: a couple times again, what's so frustrating to me is 214 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 2: change of possession. So it's not like a middle of 215 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: a drive where all of a sudden, sometimes you see that. 216 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, we had ten minute on the field. 217 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 2: We the person, you know, this guy cramped up off 218 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 2: the field and we couldn't get a guy in there 219 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 2: and whatever, or you know, equipment issue something like that. No, no, no, 220 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 2: it's guys jogging on the field after a punt. And 221 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 2: I believe Mike Hilton should have been the eleventh either 222 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 2: dime for Hilton or if they would have gone Nickel, 223 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 2: maybe it would have been a second linebacker. With Zia 224 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 2: Franklin out there, and the Colts had ten on the field, 225 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 2: and for me, with Anna Rumo, it kind of starts there. 226 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 2: And again that's an entire defensive staff. I go to 227 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 2: the sixteen play drive in the first half, That to 228 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 2: me is when the game really started to turn towards 229 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 2: the Rams. Now the third quarter didn't necessarily play out 230 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 2: in that, but what a huge moment for the Rams 231 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 2: to execute a sixteen. 232 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: Play What was it? Excuse me? 233 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 2: Thirteen play ninety six yard drive right before half? 234 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: You'd do it in two minutes and seven seconds. 235 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,599 Speaker 2: Crazy, when the Colts had great field position after the 236 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: Riga Bartzo Sanchez punt at the four yard line there 237 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 2: and then lastly, when I say in Aruma, I just 238 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 2: mean the overall plan on pukin Nakua, because this, to me, 239 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 2: was the thought process in getting lou Anarumo and Rum. 240 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 2: I think has brought a lot of good here. But 241 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 2: this is exactly what people were frustrated about with Gus Bradley. 242 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 2: The star players show up and not only do they 243 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 2: have a good game against you, they have a career 244 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: game against you. Pukaakua has never had more receiving yards 245 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 2: in his career than he did on Sunday. And to me, 246 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 2: I said to you during a break of the show 247 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 2: this morning, like, why can't the star player just have 248 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 2: an average game? Yeah, he's bawling out, Well, I can't 249 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 2: Puka have eight for eighty eight in a touchdown. 250 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: Still would be a good game. 251 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 2: Obviously, still would be a very nice game, but it 252 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 2: would be kind of right in the middle of his career. Instead, 253 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 2: he's got whatever he had thirteen for one to seventy 254 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 2: and a touchdown. 255 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: And in two games against the Colts in his career, 256 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: he's got twenty two catches for three hundred and thirty 257 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: three yards and two touchdowns. 258 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 3: He owns the Colts. 259 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: And this gets into. 260 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 2: Kind of a bigger topic with Shane Stike and as 261 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 2: the head coach and the play caller, does it just 262 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 2: not register to Shane on game day what Puka is 263 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 2: doing to your team? 264 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: And I would think. 265 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 2: When the Colts pr team hands you that stat sheet 266 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 2: at halftime and you see at half Puka had seven 267 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 2: for one, twelve, I believe was the number that at 268 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 2: that point of the game, you would say to lou 269 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 2: An Romo, all right, A, we need to change our 270 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 2: entire plan on Puka or B when third down, fourth down, 271 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 2: and red zone rolls around. We need because Puka's biggest 272 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 2: plays right in those moments. I mean, he has a 273 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 2: huge third down catches. We need to have a different 274 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 2: plan for Puka. And sure enough, Mark, when fourth and 275 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 2: two rolls around, Matthew Stafford had to come to the 276 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 2: line of scrimage. 277 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 1: He had to be thought he was seeing things. 278 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 2: Wait, the girl wants to talk to me at the bar. 279 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 2: This can't be happening. 280 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 3: His white eyes. 281 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: This doesn't happen in my dream. 282 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, And all of a sudden he comes to the 283 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 2: line of scrimmage and that's exactly what fourth and two in. 284 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 2: It's Xavier Howard opposite with no real safety shade, no 285 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 2: real safety help at all. Simple foot in the ground, slant, 286 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 2: easy pickup, puko doos the rest there. So for me, 287 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 2: when I say, lou Ana Roumo, a lot of this 288 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 2: we focused on the in game aspect to planning for Pooka. 289 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 2: And then lastly, I'll just throw Xavier Howard in general 290 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 2: into this conversation because he's here, because and is here, 291 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 2: and it has smelled very travel baseball e of coach's 292 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 2: son Mark Dyden's playing our boss's son because he tries, 293 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 2: you know, he wants to make sure that Monday through 294 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 2: Fridays things are good in the office. That's what it 295 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 2: smells like with Howard. And I hear Shane Sykin say 296 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 2: after the game and describing him, He's been a good 297 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 2: player in the league. And if I'm the Colts today, 298 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 2: I'm replaying that audio for Shane Sykin. He's been past 299 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 2: ten Ben, He's been. 300 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: You can't always. 301 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 2: Rely on the back of the baseball card. Frank Reich 302 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 2: could not have done it with forty six year old 303 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 2: that inventary hurt in twenty nineteen. It always was like, Frank, 304 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 2: I get it. This is not Adam vanentarian O one 305 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 2: and three hitting the game winning field goals. This is 306 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 2: a different Adam Vententarian. Unfortunately, we're talking about thirty two 307 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 2: year old corner that's ancient. A guy didn't play football 308 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 2: last year. So the numbers are wild coming into yesterday. 309 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 2: Quarterbacks at one hundred and thirteen passer rating when targeting 310 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 2: xaviing Howard. 311 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: That is one of the wilder stats he throughout there today, 312 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: because what is the record. 313 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson has the record for career passer rating. I 314 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 2: want to say it's like one oh two. Peyton Manning's 315 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 2: career pass rating is like ninety six, and this dude 316 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 2: won thirteen. And again we haven't included yesterday yet. I mean, 317 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 2: like that is just wild to me that that's where 318 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 2: it is at so far through these four games. So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's. 319 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: Not good at all. 320 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 2: Right now, with Xaving Howard, you have to bench him period. 321 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 2: We'll see where Jalen Jones is at this week. You 322 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 2: know Jonathan Edwards, I know he didn't play much but 323 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 2: made a nice play when he was in there. You 324 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 2: know Makai Blackman, uh you know opposite him, you. 325 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: Know, Hilton in the spot something. But right now, Xaving 326 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: Howard is just getting roasted. No, we say, like, oh, 327 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: the halftime adjustments, halftime adjustments, and you have to say, 328 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: like what Pooka was doing, what Xavion Howard was doing yesterday? 329 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: Like was there any conversation in the halftime locker room 330 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: like we need to do something different here because what 331 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: we're doing ain't working. And it doesn't seem like they 332 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: did that at all. They're just kind of like, all right, boys, 333 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: grab a gatorade and we'll get back out there. Right. 334 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 2: And you know, my question now becomes two and I 335 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 2: know Geno Smith looked like asked frankly yesterday. Yeah, but 336 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 2: like Mark with Kyler Murray coming out of the schedule, 337 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 2: justin Herbert coming out of the schedule, even like Aaron Rodgers. 338 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 2: These are at least veteran quarterbacks that are gonna be like, huh. 339 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: They keep on running. 340 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 2: Number four out there, and it looks like quarterbacks are 341 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 2: having a lot of success against them. Should we try that? 342 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: You don't think Marvin Harrison Junior would love to have 343 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: xaviing the Howard lined up across the room in a 344 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. 345 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 2: It's amazing me that we haven't seen teams try it more. 346 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 2: Now again, it's really the Dolphins and the Titans which 347 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 2: winless for a reason so far. So I think that's 348 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 2: what's really frustrating, is like the ad Mitchell stuff, so 349 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 2: much of that, to your point, Mark is largely out 350 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 2: of your control to a degree, I mean him dropping 351 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 2: the ball on the goal line, whereas some of this 352 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 2: defensive stuff is a little bit more of like planning, 353 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 2: you know, coaching, identifying talent personnel and again not having 354 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 2: the alternate plan for Puka Like that to me is 355 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: the bigger picture, like the ad Mitchell thing. Yeah, Pierce 356 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 2: will probably come back and be healthy and Mitchell will 357 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 2: go back to having this little dozen snap role. But 358 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 2: the planet corner that's not just changing with a snap 359 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 2: of the fingers. No, So that to me is a 360 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 2: little bit more of a bigger picture worry right now. 361 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: All right, another thing you didn't like the last one. 362 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: He didn't like the offense being under duress. Yeah. I thought, 363 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: in general, just the most pressure, and I'll say in 364 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: a multitude of ways pass rush pressure. 365 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 2: I thought the rams were pretty effective with four, which 366 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 2: was frustrated pressure with contested windows. In terms of what 367 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones was throwing into and then they were the 368 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 2: most behind the chains they've been all season long. Like, 369 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 2: I didn't think Jones was great by any means. I 370 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 2: didn't think he was horrific, But I don't know letter 371 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 2: grade after he gave him a low C. 372 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought it was the first dose of reality 373 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: of Daniel Jones, the first time he's dealt with diversity 374 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: and colese and credit to him, it's taken thirteen quarters 375 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: until we've gotten that. 376 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I thought he should have led Adie 377 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 2: Mitchell a little bit more on the first interception. I 378 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 2: get Mitchell maybe could have been a little bit more 379 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 2: competitive in the air, and then I just thought he 380 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 2: threw a hero ball pick there late, I mean minutes 381 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 2: ago three timeouts. 382 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: You know, this is how we quarterbacks. 383 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford is a Hall of Famer because he's seven 384 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 2: for eight on the final two drives of the game yesterday, Like, 385 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 2: that's largely why he is in those moments. He goes 386 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 2: from here to here, Daniel Jones, when you get into 387 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 2: more of these moments, what are you that would be 388 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 2: my big picture Jones question? Moving forward again, I thought 389 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 2: he did a nice job bouncing back after the interception. 390 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 1: He hung in there. 391 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:25,719 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of the Baali through. It might 392 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 2: have been to Warren his first ball right after the pick. 393 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 2: I'm like, that's that's a big time kind of resolve. 394 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 2: Not gunshy, you know, those sorts of things. But you know, 395 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 2: the offense had certainly a scoring wall, and at times 396 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 2: when you play quarterback, the team looks for you to say, 397 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 2: hey man, we're behind the chains. 398 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: Can you do something about it? 399 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 2: You know, So those are just things to keep an 400 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 2: eye on with Jones moving forward again, first time he's 401 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 2: really had the negatives in there. But yeah, overall, yeah, 402 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 2: se minusag. 403 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 1: I think that's one of the reasons why when they 404 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: signed him in the off season. You're like, all right, 405 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: but it's one of those things where he's a steady 406 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: hand because he's consistent, But does he have the next 407 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: gear that he can get into? And we saw that 408 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: with Matt Stafford last yesterday, But does Daniel Jones have that? 409 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: Can he go from just being steady to going above 410 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: and beyond? And we haven't We didn't see that yesterday. 411 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 412 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: Are you just a guy? 413 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? 414 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: Are you a little better than a guy? Are you 415 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: a real dude? 416 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 3: You know? 417 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 2: Like, those are the things that I feel like you 418 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 2: kind of get into with him in terms of a 419 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 2: debate exactly what you have at that position. But again, though, 420 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 2: there are a lot of bigger picture questions. 421 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 1: Okay, it wasn't all doom and gloom. What you liked 422 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: was the post ad resolve. Yeah, you know, Mark, I 423 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: don't know. 424 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 2: Maybe some might say this is grasping for positives, but 425 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 2: I do think it's real. It unraveled in an avalanche 426 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 2: in Denver last year. Thirteen to seven lead became thirty 427 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 2: one thirteen. It unraveled on all three phases. You know. 428 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 2: If you remember, Denver had some big punt returns and 429 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 2: kick wait in that game or uh punt put its 430 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 2: heart in that game, And yesterday, I didn't think it 431 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 2: got anywhere near that. I thought the defense really stood 432 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 2: tall in that third quarter. I don't think the Rams 433 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 2: scored in that third quarter there. So you know, again, 434 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 2: maybe it's I don't know, step in the right direction, 435 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 2: but when you're on the road and you're facing a 436 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 2: quality team, I mean, that could really snowball, and you 437 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 2: didn't allow it to snowball. So I definitely wanted to 438 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 2: mention that of this is a team that had eleven penalties, 439 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 2: which is a really high number. It dropped the ball 440 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 2: on the goal line, and you know, by no means 441 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 2: were the Rams you know perfect. 442 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 1: I mean they had what they had to have a 443 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: good amount of penalties. 444 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, they had seven for sixty three, so I mean 445 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 2: that's still obviously a good amount. 446 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: They had. 447 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 2: The fourth and inches that Stafford got stood up on. 448 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 2: That's a great challenge by Shanesyke. And not to be 449 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 2: afraid of the challenging of spots there, but I think 450 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 2: you have to be pleased out of the Colts, you know, 451 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 2: showed up in that moment of all right, fight or flight? 452 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 2: That was a how are we going going to respond? 453 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 2: For the most part, I thought they handled it well. 454 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 3: H are you ready to move to Twitter questions? 455 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, just the last thing that I did, Like I'll 456 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 2: just sneak in there again. Pass rush wise, three sacks, 457 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 2: nine hits against Stafford, those are those are pretty good numbers. 458 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 2: And I thought Buckner was certainly the spearheader of it. 459 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 2: Tamula Ata Barre I think has shown a little bit 460 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 2: more flash here as rotational defensive tackle. Still want to 461 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:25,719 Speaker 2: see more from the edges. I know a lot too 462 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 2: out a couple of moments early in the game. He 463 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 2: had the stuff on the QB sneak and you gotta 464 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 2: have more from Quidi Pey just you gotta have more 465 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 2: from him in a contract year, former first rounder. But again, 466 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 2: pass rush wise, I thought they disguised well. You know, 467 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 2: Franklin had the near pick on the third down and 468 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 2: you know that might be the best quarterback you face 469 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 2: all year, certainly one of them. Yeah, and you still 470 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 2: almost came away with the with the Adobe all right, Jakes. 471 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: That starts us off on Twitter questions, a lot of 472 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: questions that are being asked today, what do you think 473 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: the Colts do with eighty from here? There's no question 474 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: the talent's there, but the mental mistakes aren't improving. 475 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and just to be clear before you in Twitter questions, Mark, 476 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 2: we've probably got five of the like same Mitchell Howards 477 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 2: shocking right, right. So you know a lot of these, 478 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 2: a lot of different people asked in varying ways, what 479 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 2: do you do with Mitchell. 480 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 1: Again? 481 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 2: I would have benched him for a series or two. 482 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 2: I think it was clear the mental headspace was not there, 483 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 2: Whereas Jonathan Tailor to me, I don't compare him and 484 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 2: Taylor the. 485 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: Apples to apples. 486 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 2: Like Taylor, I was curious, would you sit him down 487 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 2: for a couple of plays? But like Taylor's mental makeup 488 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 2: I think is different than Ady Mitchell's mental makeup. Now, 489 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 2: someone might call me out for saying, hey, you don't 490 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 2: you don't know that. To me, that's that's pretty clear. 491 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 2: So I would have sat Mitchell, I think for a 492 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 2: series or two. Now, what do you do this week? 493 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 1: And active? I mean is that something? 494 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 3: Is that too harsh? 495 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 1: Do you think because they always coaches like to preach 496 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 1: we turn the page, like we can take twenty four 497 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: hours after a winner loss and then we turned the page. 498 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: So if you carry that over in the next game, 499 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: what is that saying for that? That's punishment after the 500 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: crime committed and we're supposedly turning the pageable. 501 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 3: We're not, I hear you out. 502 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 2: But at some point, what about repeatable offenses? Yeah, I 503 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 2: mean that these are repeatable, trustworthy offenses. You know it 504 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 2: cost Anthony Richardson something clearly. So like is that there 505 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 2: with Mitchell? 506 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 3: And I get them? 507 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 1: Mark? 508 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 2: I mean, like being inactive on a Sunday is a 509 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 2: big deal. Like I I mean I think you would 510 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 2: be sending a pretty direct message there. So it's just 511 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 2: a question I would have because you know, when you 512 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 2: say the word accountability, it's such a big buzzword. Okay, 513 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 2: where is the accountability of theady Mitchell in game? I 514 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 2: would say we saw none of it? 515 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: Right? He played? 516 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 2: How many snaps did he play? Played fifty four of 517 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 2: sixty one offensive snaps? I mean Ptman played fifty seven, 518 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 2: So that would be my question. Is the repeatable offenses 519 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 2: with Mitchell is different than like if that was dueling 520 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 2: or if that was I don't know, Pierce, you know, 521 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 2: somebody else. It's like, well, you know it's track records, 522 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 2: not really that well, track record is different. 523 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: So I mean you said in your post game video 524 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: on Instagram and stuff that if you've seen a d 525 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: out at training camp, he catches the ball and you 526 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: think he won the Super Bowl the way he celebrates 527 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: and everything. So that's one of those things where he 528 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: just got over excited again and it's just like, dude, 529 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: come on, man, like, just cross the goal line and 530 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 1: just do it then. But yeah, in the changing of 531 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,239 Speaker 1: hands right then, I mean, I don't even know if 532 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: it was the changing in the I think he literally 533 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: just like he fumbled the ball. It's like trying to 534 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: do those things where he dropped the ball right at 535 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: the goal line or something. Right, Why are you trying 536 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: to change hands? 537 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 3: Right? You know? 538 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,479 Speaker 1: It's like what like what is there a dance coming here? 539 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: Do we not good to see the dance? 540 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 3: You know? 541 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 2: So again what they do with Mitchell this week? And 542 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,239 Speaker 2: you know Pierce's can concussion history has typically been one 543 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 2: one week, so obviously that will matter here. And I 544 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 2: would like to think you could beat the Oakland or 545 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 2: the Las Vegas Raiders with an inactive ad Mitchell, But 546 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 2: I probably not hold my breath at the Colts actually 547 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 2: do that, all. 548 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: Right, Walter says, what are your thoughts on lou and 549 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: his Frank Wright coach these guys before? So far Howard 550 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: was getting cooking the Sunday like Sunday dinner, and Mike 551 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: Hilton was sliding across the field like my wife's car 552 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: if you didn't make me check her tires. It's actually 553 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: telling on yourself a little bit right there, Walter, throwing 554 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: the wife under the bus. Yeah, Walter, hope your wife 555 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: is listening. Which of those do you like better? I 556 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: like the wife's car on the tires. Ashley needs new 557 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 1: tires too, and she hasn't done him yet. That's that's 558 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: not one that you typically hear. No, you know that's 559 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: that's actually good one. Walter. 560 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, again, it's been super you know, travel baseball E 561 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 2: and I go back to the has been with Shane, 562 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 2: the one hundred and thirteen rating, I mean all of it. 563 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 2: I would like to see Jalen Jones win healthy get 564 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 2: the full third corner reps. So right now you got 565 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 2: Mooney Water as an outside corner. 566 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: You got Kenny Moore. The Colts rarely play bass when 567 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 1: they do, those would be your two outside corners. Obviously, 568 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 1: when you get a nickel, you move Kenny inside. Again, 569 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: we'll see where Kenny's at. Is Kenny going to be 570 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: out for a couple of weeks, so you have some 571 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: options here. You could again leave Kenny outside and have 572 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: Mike Hilton in the slot if Jalen Jones is not ready, 573 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: but I think when Jones is ready, i'd move Hilton 574 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: to the bench. I'd play Kenny Adam. The Hilton was 575 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: maybe as bad as Walter's referencing there sliding tires, but 576 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 1: that's that's what I would do. I would have Jalen 577 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: Jones be that outside corner, and honestly, I'd look at 578 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: Jonathan Edwards. 579 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 2: You know the thing about it, Marcus, when it goes 580 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 2: at you don't need it to go very often a 581 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 2: corner for you to get exposed. You could just be 582 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 2: a hair or two off and you're getting exposed. And 583 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 2: you know, it's not like you know, if you go 584 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 2: back and you watch Howard yesterday, it's not like he's 585 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 2: whatever ten yards behind these dudes. But at corner, if 586 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 2: you give separation of two, three, four yards, that's college 587 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 2: open and you can't have that in the NFL. You know, 588 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 2: you watch the rams and the amount of contested windows 589 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 2: they created. Yourself or in general moodey Ward I thought, 590 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 2: for the most part, had a pretty good day. So 591 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 2: it's just too easy right now. Yeah, targeting out, I. 592 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: Mean eventually goes because look, Darell Reevs at some point 593 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: was revis Island. No one was getting by him, nothing 594 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: like that. And then the older gut turned into like 595 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: a Jet two holiday where everybody was all of a sudden, 596 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: there's a whole cruise line hanging out at Darrel Reevs's island. 597 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: So when it goes, it goes. Zaman Howard has not 598 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: been a good addition at all. I remember they made 599 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: that addition late. Was it late in the camp or 600 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: was it preseason? 601 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 2: At that point when it's about camp had just ended, 602 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 2: so they have like two more weeks left in the 603 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 2: right ars HEAs and again immediately hand him that starting job. 604 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: It just I don't love. I like a lot of 605 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: what Lou has done, but I don't love the I 606 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: don't want to say it's like the old what what's 607 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: the word I'm looking for when you just favor somebody 608 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 1: because of their last name. 609 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 3: Oh, nepotism. 610 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to call it that because Xaming 611 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 2: Howard's definitely accomplished a lot in his NFL career, but 612 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 2: one years, like dog years, Yeah, when you don't play 613 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 2: in the league. 614 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 1: Particularly at corner, particularly for that age. 615 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 2: And I think you've seen it here through the first 616 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 2: four week and it's not like they've done anything of 617 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 2: this playing time. He still played a ton yesterday. Yeah, 618 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 2: Like I was watching every series after that, Mark, I was. 619 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 1: Like, is he out here? Is he out there? Is 620 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 1: there's number four? Yeah? I remember when when they added him. 621 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: You're like he's gonna get some playing time like he 622 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,360 Speaker 1: just is. Right, it's been alarmingly bad. And yeah, I'll 623 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: be curious to see not only eighty involvement in the 624 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 1: next week's game against the Raiders, but Xavin Howard going forward, because. 625 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 2: That's more of the controllabowl off. Okay again, Ady Mitchell's stupidity. Yes, 626 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 2: it probably cost you yesterday's game, but I cannot largely 627 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 2: isolate it to that, Like this moment with Howard is 628 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 2: a four week thing. Like he's he can't play. 629 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 3: He hasn't shown even glimpses. 630 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 2: That's the bigger Like, it's amazing it didn't cost you 631 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 2: against Tennessee. More so, nip it in the butt right now, 632 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 2: don't you know? Put the band aid on the old 633 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 2: bullet wound, take care of it and try some other guys. 634 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: You say, Howard, we gave the old college try. I 635 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: appreciate you for trying. We're going to go in a 636 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: different direction, right and again. 637 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 2: We've seen this some corners, you know, Dallas Flowers being 638 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 2: an example of it, like Stefan Gilmour is the exception 639 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 2: of the rule. 640 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 3: You know, available you want to do that again. 641 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 2: Flowers is more of the injury. I really would like 642 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 2: to see a healthy Jalen Jones. 643 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see what happens, all right. 644 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: Craig chimes in and he says any concern over their 645 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: discipline eleven penalties on Sunday and boneheaded mistakes read ad Mitchell. Yeah, 646 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: this is every time I think I'm over the Ady 647 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: Mitchell play just pops back in the middle here. 648 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 2: As far as penalties are are concerned, Mark, I would 649 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 2: be willing to guess as one of the higher four 650 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 2: game stretches under Stikeing, you know, and it's really killing 651 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 2: them in the red zone. 652 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: I thought yesterday got you way behind the chains. 653 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna look that up to see if it is 654 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 2: one of the higher ones. 655 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: Again. 656 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 2: I think it probably is under Styking, and this is 657 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 2: one where it's okay, it hasn't been a past precedent thing, 658 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 2: so I'm not gonna put a ton of attention on it. 659 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 2: But then it happened again yesterday, and now I'm kind 660 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 2: of like, okay, you know, is this something to keep 661 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 2: an eye on? And you know when you see it, Mark, 662 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 2: you all? I mean, I'm pretty sure Nelson out of 663 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 2: penalty yesterday, Ryman out of penalty yesterday there was. There 664 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 2: are a couple other frontline guys that had some penalties here. 665 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 2: So it was a nothing burger to me early in 666 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 2: the year. Now it's like a something burger. Don't let 667 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 2: it be the big ugly burger from Bubbs. 668 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 3: That's well said by you? 669 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: Was that good? 670 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 3: Or yeah? I like that? 671 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: What was better that? Or Walter and his wife's tires 672 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: and the Walter tire one is going to win the 673 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: win the show. You had an awful dad joke on 674 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: the radio today, what what oh? When you said the 675 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: ten men on the field? You said you thought that, uh, 676 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: Hilton was going to be If it was dying, Hilton 677 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: would have been out there. And I said, well, if 678 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: there's ten men on the field, technically that was their 679 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: dime package. And you played the ba dun dun. 680 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 681 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: I mean that was horrible by you. I wish i'd 682 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: say I didn't plan that out, but I thought of that, 683 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm not and Clay myself off there. 684 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: Unbelievable how you thought that was a good one. I'll 685 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: bee a Spanky's every white night at ten, Come on down, 686 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: all right, wakes Spike rounds out Twitter questions to say, guys, 687 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: was this the game where we realized that Jones is 688 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: just good enough to run an offense and not to 689 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: thread the needle and clutch moments? 690 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 2: Quick little look at the penalties right now, I'm getting 691 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 2: thirty as the four game high in the Stikeen era. Actually, 692 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 2: I need to span that out a little bit here, 693 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 2: do you. Yeah, it still is thirty. So they have 694 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 2: thirty in these four games too. 695 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: So it ties what I'm seeing too, ties a high 696 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: understiking most penalized team in the NFL. Right now? 697 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 2: Okay, so not maybe again, Uber, go back to my 698 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 2: Burger analogy. Okay, wake Spike, Uh this is about Daniel Jones. 699 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 2: Yeah again, uh huh. You eventually have to cheer out 700 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 2: these quarterbacks. It impacts how much you pay them. And 701 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 2: I think listeners of this podcast over the years know this. 702 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 2: I strive for e laite at quarterback. I don't strive 703 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 2: for safe. I don't say frankly, the Colts have done that. 704 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 2: We've seen franchises try it. And you might have a 705 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 2: guy for a year, maybe two, but that's it. You 706 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 2: do everything you can as a franchise to find a guy, 707 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 2: a dude and Honestly, the Rams being the opponent yesterday 708 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 2: is probably a perfect example of it. 709 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 3: They had Jared Goff. 710 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 2: They got to the Super Bowl with Jared Goff, but 711 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 2: they said no, no, no, we're gonna go out and 712 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 2: we're gonna try to get better. We're gonna get Matthew Stafford. 713 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 2: And you've watched Stafford play now for the last handful 714 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 2: of years with the Rams, and I think it speaks 715 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 2: for itself. So you know, I think people will prob 716 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 2: when we get to the end of the season. The 717 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones conversation comes realer. I could see people saying 718 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 2: I'm being too critical of Jones, but I just hold 719 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 2: that position to such high regard. And you got to 720 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 2: have a freaking dude there. If you're going to thrive, thrive, 721 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 2: I sound like Maddi Bowen. Let's let's thrive in our relationship. 722 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 2: Let's not survive the couch right now. 723 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, here we are having a nice little one on 724 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: one Mark Dyton and I, Mark, you gotta thrive at quarterback. 725 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: You can't survive. I really mean it. 726 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 3: I mean like that. 727 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 2: That's how I view that position when it comes. 728 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: To sports, and I get it. It's tough to find 729 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: these dudes. But if you find them, you got chances. 730 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: And you know, if you're a Rams fan. 731 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 2: Watching that fourth quarter yesterday, you imagine your comfort level, 732 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 2: know when you have Matthew Stafford. And Stafford was seven 733 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 2: of eight on the final two drives. 734 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: Probably the cause of concern heading in the season was 735 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: his back, and it didn't look like he had writ 736 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: any issues. 737 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 3: Yes, and you know he was. 738 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 2: He was limp at a times, his favorite stuff and 739 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 2: he's getting banged up and he's still standing there making 740 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 2: throw and the variety of throws he made, and like 741 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 2: the the recognition of the Atwell play, I mean that 742 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 2: was a at Well was not the first second read 743 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 2: by any means and too. Yes, when ten defenders are 744 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 2: on the field, it helps, But for you to recognize 745 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 2: that because he had his eyes near Atwell pretty early 746 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 2: to make that play, you know, also stands out. And 747 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 2: just the variety of stuff after that. You know they 748 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 2: get into a third and long they don't panic and yeah, 749 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 2: uh that's. 750 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:11,760 Speaker 1: What you got, a strifle. 751 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,959 Speaker 3: I need more of what you need to strive for, Kevin. 752 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 3: I needed more of those on the next potcast. 753 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: Survive, Yes, all right, any other final thoughts, because that's 754 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: it for Twitter questions. 755 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 2: I think, just to wrap it up, three and one 756 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 2: first quarter, you gotta be more than please. You would 757 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 2: have signed up for that four and again. I think 758 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 2: it's not only the three wins you got, but it's 759 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 2: also how you've looked. I mean, Jones has been really 760 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 2: good through sixteen quarters, so I think that is encouraging. 761 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 2: I get Jacksonville's right there with you. Jacksonville really have 762 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 2: this stay in power. I don't know that was a 763 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 2: nice one they got yesterday in Sands. 764 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: I was on the road, on the road. 765 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,800 Speaker 2: So we'll see again. The Colts have a great, a 766 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 2: great two week stretch here. You get two West Coast 767 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,879 Speaker 2: teams on ten am local start times, real good chance 768 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 2: to get to five and one before you go out 769 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,439 Speaker 2: to the Chargers and the Charge Again. 770 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 1: We'll see about Joe Alt status for that one. I 771 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: would tell you you should be getting three of the 772 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: next four wins here because the Raiders, Cardinals then at 773 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: the Charters, but then the Titans. The Titans stink to 774 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: high heaven. Will Brian Callahan be coaching the Titans in there, 775 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if cam Ward's going 776 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: to be starting at quarterback. He's calling them team ass 777 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 1: and although it's something to be in line for the 778 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: number one overall pick for a second consecutive year, so 779 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 1: we'll see calling the team ass. 780 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 2: That is Mark Dyton, great fillin as always, Mark, Good 781 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 2: luck to your Cubs in the postseason. 782 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: No same to your Reds who's snuck in thanks to 783 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,240 Speaker 1: the Mets, Thank you the Miami Marlins. The gift basket 784 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: is coming your WY Colts corner with myself Kevin Bonen. 785 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: Will be back on Wednesday.