1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Indeed, we are working for the weekend of Friday, and man, 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: what an awesome looking Friday, No kid, I love it. 3 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: And the weather is perfect tomorrow. Highlight of the summer. 4 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: Highlight of the summer. Eddie Garrison hosting Sports' early fall. Now, 5 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 1: but what's that. 6 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 2: Eddie Garrison hosting sports talk this weekend for Bottle Level. 7 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: That is one of them. It's the sign of the 8 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: end of summer, in the beginning of autumn. I realize 9 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: that we are now in the whatever, autumn solstice whatever. 10 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: But the weather's fabulous. 11 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 2: So missus Querry Leaf recordings. 12 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: The mill a couple of weeks away from that. It 13 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: is a traditional Eddie that you are familiar, a tradition 14 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: like any other. It involves what is going to happen tomorrow, 15 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: involves myself and another not member of this radio station, 16 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: but kind of indirectly a recurring character on this radio station. 17 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: What are you and Derek Schultz doing? 18 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: Not Derek Schultz, same height. 19 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: Boy, that's very vague. There's a lot of people that 20 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: are the same height as Derek Schultz, different gender. What 21 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: are you and Shannon doing, Jake? Is it the annual 22 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: trip to Milwaukee? It is not that's in December. Lindsay 23 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 2: Monroe of WHR we got. 24 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: The Corey is the Wiener dog races Baby German Fest 25 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 1: out in front of the ANTHONYUM, Let's go. I love 26 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: every minute of it. They sent me a fourteen page script. 27 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, we've never followed a single word of 28 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: any of this, but thank you. We just go out 29 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: there and let the dogs do the talking man and 30 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,839 Speaker 1: it is awesome that. And then we have a steinholding competition, 31 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: we have a brought eating competition. It's a ton of fun. 32 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: I can't wait for tomorrow. But let me begin with this, 33 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: and we have a big show lined up for you today. 34 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: This is the final day, Eddie. The final day, Okay 35 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: for an extended period of time. This is the final 36 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: day that we will do this show with guests on 37 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: our guest line that is not sponsored by our to 38 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: be announced Monday sponsor for the guest line. 39 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 2: That was very convoluted, very worthy, there, Jake, Okay, today's 40 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: the final day of the insert business. I can't even 41 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 2: say insert business. It's the last day of the unsponsored 42 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 2: guest line. I think that's what I just said. It 43 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: was very convoluted, very worthy. How you put it, I 44 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 2: don't think so. 45 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think. I said, today is the final 46 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: day of our guest line where it is unsponsored before 47 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: our sponsor then for an extended period begins on Monday, 48 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: and we will announce on Monday who that's going to be. 49 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: And I'm super stoked for it because, as I mentioned, 50 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 1: it is and I love every body that's a part 51 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: of the show. I just got done talking with Ron 52 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,839 Speaker 1: from Chicago's Pizza, who's a great guy, and I could 53 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: not be happy, beer more proud to be able to 54 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: spread their message of the twenty five dollars family meal 55 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: deal and the family values of Chicago's Pizza and a 56 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: story in every slice in eighteen Central Indiana locations. I 57 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: love Love heating and air, family owned business been around 58 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: for over one hundred years. Right, Obviously it goes without 59 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: saying that it is a privilege and a duty to 60 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: be able to carry out the message from Franciscan Health 61 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: and the work that they do for cardiovascular health and 62 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: getting people set for their you know, heart scans and 63 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: making sure that everybody's healthy. 64 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 2: You got a story coming up at two thirty today, 65 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 2: is that right? 66 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: That is correct? And you know the doing things for 67 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: the Indiana Donor Network is important to me, Premier weight 68 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: loss and the work that they do in my case 69 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: in helping I was just talking to somebody yesterday talking 70 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: about man I tried glyss right. Numbers are great since 71 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: I've been taking the weight loss injection, that being able 72 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: to spread that message. I love people that are going 73 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: to go to the Purdue Illinois game and watch the 74 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: battle for that little cannon they fight for. Pretty Athletics 75 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: partnered with Surfside also a pleasure to have them on 76 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: board and to welcome on another company that I am 77 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: a huge lover of their product. I love their story, 78 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: I love the local aspect of it. I love the 79 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: fact that it combines my passion for doing this show 80 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: and doing IndyCar racing. All of it cannot wait until Monday, 81 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: but let's begin with this. Last night, Thursday night football, 82 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: I'm watching the San Francisco forty nine Ers and the 83 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams, and in watching it, I'm looking at 84 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: the Rams and I'm trying to analyze, Okay, is this 85 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 1: any sort of a barometer of who and what and 86 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: where the Colts are? Colts getting set for the Raiders 87 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: coming up Sunday Lucas Oil Stadium. Brock Bowers did not practice. JT. 88 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: The Brigg told us yesterday he thinks Bowers will play, 89 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: but will have a knee sleeve on. We will see 90 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: if that limits brock Bauers in terms of his effectiveness, 91 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: although he is the kind of player that, as good 92 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: as he is, he makes a difference just by being 93 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 1: out there, because you know, the old proverbial decoy. Michael 94 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: Pittman Junr. Also now added to the injury list on 95 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: the Indianapolis side. Correct. 96 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 2: He was added yesterday with a hamstring injury and was limited. 97 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: Joel A. 98 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 2: Erickson, a recipient of the Beer Ferry, just tweeted out 99 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 2: a minute ago that Michael Pittman Jr. Is out at 100 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 2: practice today. However, Joel does not see his other counterpart, 101 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 2: Alec Pierce today at practice for the Colts. 102 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: Now the Colts, of course, in that game in Los 103 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: Angeles when you know you had Daniel Jones with two turnovers, 104 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: two interceptions, right, and I'm watching Mac Jones and I'm 105 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: looking at his effectiveness against Los Angeles and in doing so, 106 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: and yes, he has Mac Jones and this is not 107 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: it's not like Mac Jones is you know, a guy 108 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: that they just like found on tender and said, all right, 109 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: let's go. I mean, this is a guy that was 110 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: a former first round pick that, certainly at the beginning 111 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 1: of his time in New England I think had was 112 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: an accurate quarterback. I don't know that anybody felt like 113 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: it was a guy that was a dynamic quarterback, but 114 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: he was, you know, he could throw with accuracy, and 115 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: then things just kind of stalled out for him. And 116 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: then now, of course he finds himself in San Francisco. 117 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: Purdy is out, mac Jones steps in. So you look 118 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,239 Speaker 1: at the numbers of what he did yesterday, which were big. 119 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: He threw for over three hundred and Mac Jones was 120 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: the story of that game. I mean, a couple of 121 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: costly turnovers and a lot of people talking about how 122 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: al Michaels has lost his fastball. Maybe that's the case. 123 00:06:55,320 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: I love al Michaels, but nonetheless, when you look at that, 124 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: you say to yourself, Okay, so if mac Jones is 125 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: able to have a really good game against the Rams 126 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: and Daniel Jones, I'm not saying that he didn't have 127 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: a that he had a terrible game, but it made 128 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: me start to think and then as I'm pondering all 129 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: of those things, the game's wrapping up. I'm still wide awake. 130 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: I'm nocturnal, as most people know, and I realize that, 131 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: oh gosh, I forgot with this new cable system. Now 132 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: I have like every possible app under the sun. I 133 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: don't even know which ones I'm paying for, which ones 134 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: are free, which ones are trials. I have no idea. 135 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: But one of the apps I scan over to it, 136 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, I wonder what's on I've never even like 137 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: I'm going to click this button on this app and 138 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: even see what's on it. So I clicked this button 139 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: and it says, you know, hey, an original, a Hulu original, 140 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: So it okay, Well, what's the Hulu original? You know? 141 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: Is it's going to be Marsha Brady in the grass 142 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: skirt and the Nalys locking up were back in the 143 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: Hulu Like what are we doing here? 144 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 3: Right? 145 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: The Hulu special? So I click on it. It's an original, 146 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, this looks fun and I look 147 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: at this show it and then I realize and I 148 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: know I'm always the last to these parties. This show 149 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: just dropped, as the kids say, like a week ago. 150 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: So it's brand new, right, and of course we are all. 151 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: I think most people are familiar with the skit that 152 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: Eli Manning did a handful of years ago as part 153 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: of Omaha Productions, which Omahall Productions is the company that 154 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: does the Manning cast, and they now have parlayed this 155 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: skit of Eli Manning dressing in disguise and fooling a 156 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: football team that is now I don't know if you're 157 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: familiar with it or not. Eddie a sitcom on Hulu 158 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 1: called Chad Powers. I'm familiar with it with Glenn Powell. Yes, correct, 159 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: So I watched it last night. Now, the plot, I mean, 160 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: it's it's it's okay, it's actually pretty like you can 161 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: kind of see where a lot of the storylines are going. 162 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: But it's it's fun, right, it's fun. It's not it's cheesy, 163 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: but it's fun. So what it is is a guy 164 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: that is a dynamic college quarterback quarterbacks at Oregon, and 165 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: his career comes to an end in disastrous fashion. And 166 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 1: so he is this shamed name, if you will, and 167 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: he just kind of he's now like twenty five, twenty 168 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: six years old, looking for a second lease on life, 169 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: trying to you know, turn things around and finds out 170 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: that there is a college football program that's having open 171 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: quarterback tryouts because they've hit you know, the skids. So 172 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: his dad happens to be a Hollywood like Missus Doubtfire, 173 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 1: a Hollywood makeup artist and whatever else. So he creates 174 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: a disguise to go down and try out for this 175 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: football team. Now, this is obviously the most hokey and 176 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: ridiculously non believable story line of all time. But it's 177 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: entertaining and it's fun, and it's light and it's you 178 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 1: know whatever, and it's intriguing. But as I'm watching it, 179 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, you have a split personality because Chad 180 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: powers when he is in disguise. Okay, is this humble 181 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: kind of like the water boy kind of guy in 182 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: reality the quarterback, the real person is super arrogant and 183 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: can wing the ball wherever it wants to go, and 184 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: just a dynamic athlete and a great player. So two 185 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: different quarterbacks in one. 186 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 187 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: And as I'm watching it, coming off of the end 188 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: of that Rams game, I'm wondering, as I'm thinking about 189 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: Mac Jones putting together a dynamic performance against that Rams defense. 190 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: The Rams defense that. For example, I picked up this 191 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: week in my fantasy league and they got me negative 192 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: two points. Right, So a defense that is clearly susceptible 193 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: mac Jones is able to carve them apart. Daniel Jones 194 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: didn't necessarily fall in his face against him, but didn't 195 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: necessarily carve them apart either. And if you look at so, 196 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: then I started to wonder, are we seeing right here 197 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis? Are we going to and are we entering 198 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: into our own season of Chad Powers? Are we getting 199 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: ready to see our fans in New York looking at 200 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: it and saying, look perfectly fitting that Peyton Manning is 201 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: a producer of this show because it is about to 202 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 1: actually unfold in Indianapolis? Are there people that are saying that? 203 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: And so I started to look at Daniel Jones as 204 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: a quarterback right now, in what he's done through four games. 205 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: And in the first three games, Daniel Jones when the 206 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: Colts were three and unblemished, sixty three of eighty eight 207 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: for eight hundred and six yards, three touchdowns and no interceptions. Okay, 208 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,599 Speaker 1: and obviously he was very good, very efficient. His quarterback 209 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: ratings QBR is what everybody goes by now, right, like the. 210 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 2: I think so. 211 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: So his QBR in those three performances eighty one point eight, 212 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: eighty point seven, ninety three point five. Now we love 213 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: the ninety three point five yere right, we do. We do. Indeed, 214 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: we are huge fans that that. If you are that 215 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: or one oh seven point five, then you are like 216 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame caliber. But game number four against the 217 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: Rams twenty four thirty three, not terrible, two sixty two, 218 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: not terrible, a touchdown, okay, two picks. His rating for 219 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: that is QBR fifty three point three. Now, it was 220 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: not a disastrous performance, but when you parlay that with 221 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: the fact of what you just saw last night, you realize, Okay, 222 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: it's not like he was going up against the doomsday defense. 223 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: It's not like he was going up here against the 224 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: steel curtain. The Rams do have some you know, they've 225 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: got some defensive pieces for certain, don't get me wrong. 226 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: And I think Daniel Jones is going to be just fine. 227 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: And I think that that performance against the Rams, while 228 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: not completely disastrous, still was a dip from what we 229 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: had seen in weeks one, two, and three. So then 230 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: I began to wonder, is this what we're doing? Is 231 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: are we now did we fall in love with through 232 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: three games? Another version of Carson Wentz, which is when 233 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: good really good, when not really good okay. But the 234 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 1: difference is this, there are other quarterbacks that just okay 235 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 1: is not good enough for you because your roster needs 236 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: to be lifted. And as I was sitting looking at this, 237 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: and as I was analyzing all of this, and as 238 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: I was overthinking it at three twenty eight in the morning, 239 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: with these brain droppings of this guy and his wig 240 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,839 Speaker 1: and his outfit and everything else, and then wondering like, well, 241 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: the real Daniel Jones please stand up right as I'm 242 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 1: going over all of that, then I started thinking about 243 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: that show, and I thought, you know, it's a pretty 244 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: good show. I've only watched two episodes. I'm excited for 245 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: the drop of the next episode of this Chad Power Show. 246 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: But the reason I like the show is because the 247 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: storyline's cheesy and hokey and not even remotely believable. But 248 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: he meets a kid on campus that's kind of a 249 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: fun side character that helps him out. Here. They have 250 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: a backup quarterback that he's got a battle for that's 251 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: a really fun, well portrayed, perfectly casted, and embellished in 252 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: terms of his cheesiness level character that makes it fun. 253 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: They have an assistant coach. There's a storyline that you 254 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: can clearly see developing where you're like, Okay, this is 255 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: gonna this kind of hooks me in this storyline with 256 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: this other character. And I realized that while Chad Powers 257 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: is the name of the show, it is the ausxils 258 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: Hillary characters that actually are the reason that I'm intrigued 259 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: to watch episode number three and for this version of 260 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: the Colts, the reality is that while Daniel Jones may 261 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: be Chad Powers, he may be a quarterback that depending 262 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: on the day, you're wondering if people are going to 263 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: find out that there's actually somebody different underneath that jersey. 264 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: It's the auxiliary characters that are making the show. And 265 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: so while I think Daniel Jones has played really well, 266 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: and I said yesterday, we may be at the time 267 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: now where people need to start wearing Daniel Jones jerseys 268 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: to the Colts games because he's going to be here 269 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: beyond this year. It's the auxiliary characters also that are 270 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: going to make the show for him. Jonathan Taylor, Michael Pittman, 271 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: Junr who we just mentioned on the injury list, Josh Downs, 272 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: you know clearly, Tyler Warren, Alec Pierce, and then the 273 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: defense in general, you know, to Forrest Buckner and Kevin 274 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: Bowen is going to join us on the program later 275 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: talking about how DeForest Buckner went and talked with Adie Mitchell. 276 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: And I know people are tired of hearing the Ady 277 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: Mitchell storyline. I get it, but it is a storyline, nonetheless, 278 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: But the leadership of the Colts when you have a 279 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: DeForest Buckner going and talking to Adie Mitchell, different sides 280 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: of the ball, different rooms, as we like to say 281 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: now in NFL talk. But yet nonetheless, you have a 282 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: leadership there that I think some other groups in this 283 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: franchise have not had in a while. And those pieces, 284 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: those characters, those storylines are what are going to draw 285 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: us back and Eddie, I believe that they are. Even 286 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: if Daniel Jones doesn't have the consistency that he had 287 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: through the first three games, and he may very well, 288 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: even if looking at what the Rams did last night 289 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: diminishes a little bit like okay, maybe going into LA 290 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: and losing a game against well, they just lost against 291 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: one of the top teams league and San Francisco's pretty 292 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: good as well, don't get me wrong, but they went 293 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: in with a backup. You know, even if those things 294 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: diminish a little bit, I do think that more often 295 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: than not, we're going to see the likable, the win, 296 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: the winning Daniel Jones, the taking care of the football 297 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. And even if he does have games where 298 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: he dips, I think the fact that they have that 299 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 1: rest of the supporting cast is a real credit to him. 300 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: And I think they are still on pace for what 301 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: I said at the beginning. I said at the beginning 302 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: theyre ten and seven. That may be selling him short 303 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: now because the schedule itself starts to look favorable. They 304 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: could go beyond that. 305 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, perhaps, And we still don't know, really know what 306 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 2: Jacksonville is like. Their offense hasn't been great. They've found 307 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 2: ways to win three games. The one game they lost 308 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 2: was to Cincinnati after Joe Burrow went down with Jake Brownie. 309 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 2: They let it come back and we're able to feed 310 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 2: Jacksonville like. And Jacksonville has the same records as the 311 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 2: Cult right now, they're tied for first the AFC South 312 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 2: And it's kind of crazy to say we still don't 313 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 2: really know a whole lot about Jacksonville through four weeks, 314 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 2: but that's why you play the games. Jake in to 315 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 2: your point about you know Colts and Rams last night, 316 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 2: the Rams were just making uncharacteristic mistake after uncharacteristic mistake. 317 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 2: You had Kyrie Williams fumbling at the goal line. You 318 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 2: had Blake korm not bringing in a pitch from Matthew Stafford. 319 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 2: You had a holding penalty on a big return that 320 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 2: would have set you up in prime position to win 321 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 2: at the end of regulation. You had a blocked pat 322 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 2: you had a missed field goal. Like there were so 323 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 2: many things that went wrong for Los Angeles last night 324 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 2: to lose that game that they did not do against 325 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 2: the Colts. On the other side, it was the Colts 326 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 2: making those mistakes against the Rams, and that's why the 327 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 2: Colts fell short. 328 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: Let me give you one other thing that happens in 329 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:42,239 Speaker 1: the show. No spoiler alert here. Don't worry if you 330 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 1: have not watched yet Chad Powers or you plan on 331 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,719 Speaker 1: doing so. Okay, I mean not to mention. It's not 332 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: like this is gone with the wind, right, I mean 333 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: this is not It's but the character Chad Powers is 334 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: in disguise so he can play quarterback, he has to 335 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: wear a mask. Missus doubtfire. Okay, of course it's a 336 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,959 Speaker 1: comedy as well, so there are there is a scene 337 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: where the mask becomes compromised and somebody's talking to him, 338 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 1: not realizing they're they're talking to a person wearing a 339 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:20,719 Speaker 1: rubber mask, and the mask becomes compromised and it starts leaking. 340 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: That's all I'll say about the scene to be fair 341 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: to Daniel Jones. The other aspect that you have to 342 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,959 Speaker 1: look towards, and the reason why I don't find it 343 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 1: of major concern is because I think this is the 344 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: anomaly we know. For example, we've seen in Indianapolis body 345 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: of work of Quentin Nelson, We've seen body of work 346 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: of Bernard Ryman. We know, you know, we know on 347 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: the right side of the line where they you know, 348 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: Braden Smith that you know what you have there, right 349 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: and I know that they have a you know, Bordolini 350 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: is new essentially, even though we've seen some of what 351 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: he can do, there were times that those whose job 352 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: it was to mask Daniel Jones and protect him and 353 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: keep him so that you don't know where he is defensively, 354 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 1: that are there to protect him. They did themselves have 355 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: scenes in the movie Against the Rams and the episode 356 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 1: against the Rams where the water started leaking through a 357 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: little bit on the mask. And therefore it was difficult 358 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: for Daniel Jones to be able to show in any way, 359 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: shape or form, even if he wanted to, who exactly 360 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: he might be, because uncharacteristically from games one, two, and three, 361 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: he was under more duress than he was in those 362 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 1: first three games. And you have to factor that in 363 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: and say, I do like the I don't have concern 364 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 1: about the offensive line so long as they stay healthy. 365 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: I do think that offensive line is a weird It's 366 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 1: just a weird position or a weird unit where you 367 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: have occasional games where I mean, there have been games 368 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: with the Colts from an offensive line standpoint where you're like, 369 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: who are these guys? I mean they are They're like 370 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: the Berlin Wall, Like this is the Great Wall of China, 371 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: the Blin Wall fell, the Great Wall of China. I 372 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 1: mean this is They're unbelievable for a game or two, right, 373 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: we had it last year a couple of times. And 374 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: then there are also times where you have an unbelievable 375 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys with them at Smith behind him offensive 376 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: line that just have off days. And I think that 377 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 1: that was you'd like to think because of the aggression 378 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: of the Rams, And I mean, you know, the Rams 379 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: have some guys, you know, versus a kind of guy 380 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: that that's an anomaly of what you're going to face 381 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: more often than not. But there were indeed poors in 382 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 1: the wall that allowed for Daniel Jones to have to rush, 383 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 1: and he made a couple of bad decisions with that. 384 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: But that's another thing you have to factor in, which 385 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 1: is the real Daniel Jones and which is the real 386 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: the protection an aspect of it, I'm not as worried about, 387 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 1: but some of the throws that he made you could 388 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: look at and say, Okay, if you can get to him, 389 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: if you can give different looks or stunts, which Daniel 390 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: Jones you're gonna get. I personally think it's going to 391 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: be the one From the first three weeks of the year, 392 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: a lot to talk about, including college football perdue in 393 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: Illinois coming up this weekend. Goes without saying that with 394 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: Indiana and Oregon, we ramp that up over the course 395 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: of next week because it's going to be a top 396 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: ten matchup and then Indiana if they can hold serve 397 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: with that or certainly they gonna win. But even if 398 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: they were to lose out in Eugene going into Penn 399 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: State a couple of weeks after that, if they were 400 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: able to hold serve up to that point, I keep 401 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: saying they'll win if they're ranked in the top ten 402 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: and Penn State, because Penn State can't beat anybody ranked 403 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: in the top ten. We talked yesterday about the Indiana 404 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 1: fever and the situation with the WNBA Collective Bargaining Agreement. 405 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark has not only yesterday as we played for you, 406 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: addressed the comments where she was kind of lumped in 407 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: with that of the WNBA and the commissioner, but she 408 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: also pinned a thank you letter, did she not, Eddie? 409 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 2: She did? Kind of. 410 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. She essentially posted talking about her how would you 411 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: word it? Her her love for Indianapolis or her enjoyment 412 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: of playing in Indianapolis. Yep. Do you have any of 413 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: the highlights of said letter? I've got the audio. We 414 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: can play that a little bit later. I would like 415 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: for you to play how long is it? Just over 416 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: a minute? Go ahead and play it now and there's 417 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: a reason why. Leading up to our next guest, this 418 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: is Caitlin Clark. What exactly specifically was she addressing in 419 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: terms of this just being askeding about playing in the 420 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: state of Indiana. Here is Caitlin Clark on being a 421 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: Hoosier now even though she's obviously an iowahaw kye. 422 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 4: This place is incredible and I think you've heard so 423 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 4: many people talk about it over the course the last 424 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 4: few weeks, whether it's the whether it's pacers, whether it's 425 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 4: been our players. You know, it's just incredible. It's in 426 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 4: a way it almost feels like like a college, like 427 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 4: a university, like all the teams are supporting each other, 428 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 4: and like you don't get that in professional sports really, 429 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 4: but like you have that here and I think that 430 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 4: just speaks like I always say, like, obviously I'm from Iowa, 431 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 4: like Indianapolis. I understand it's a big city, but it 432 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 4: doesn't really feel that way to me, Like it's a 433 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 4: very close knit group, like everybody supports one another. But 434 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 4: then you have the professional sports teams and that's what 435 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 4: everybody's most passionate about here, and that's what I love 436 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 4: about it. You know, people really show up this is 437 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,959 Speaker 4: there a lot of these fans like these have been 438 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 4: their teams since they've been five years old. This is 439 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 4: all they've known. These are the only teams they've cheered for, 440 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 4: and you know, to have this type of success across 441 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 4: the board. Obviously, the Colts have had an amazing start 442 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 4: to their season, and the Pacers run last year and 443 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 4: then everything we've been able to persevere and you know, 444 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 4: reach the w NBA semi finals, like it's a it's 445 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 4: a really special time in this city and you know, 446 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 4: I can't imagine myself in a bet place and just 447 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 4: really fortunate to have, you know, made different friendships with 448 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 4: different athletes across the city and just have the support 449 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 4: from from not only a city, but the state as 450 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 4: a whole. 451 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: Which is interesting because she's one of the very few 452 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: players that are under contract. We knew she wasn't going 453 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 1: anywhere obviously, right, but you hear those rumblings, right, you 454 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: hear those rumblings from externally like, oh, Caitlyn Clark, you know, 455 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: not happy, or Kitlyn Clark needs to put on weight, 456 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: or what's going on with her injury or whatever else, 457 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: and then boom, at the end of the year, it 458 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: is like, look, there's a lot going on around me, 459 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: but this is where I want to be. And one 460 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 1: of those friendships, one of those relationships one would assume 461 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: that has her happy, that has her content, that has 462 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: her ready to move forward to get past the semi 463 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: finals of the WNBA as that with her coach Stephanie White, 464 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: who I thought did a fabulous job with that group, 465 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: and I led the week off by talking about just 466 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 1: the level of overall pride I think you had to 467 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: have in the way that the Fever played and came 468 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: together collectively and represented the state of Indiana. Stephanie's been 469 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: kind enough to give us her time each and every week, 470 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 1: and the only only only air she has made, in 471 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: my opinion, all year is the musical choice that she 472 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 1: has for her lead in next. I said, can you 473 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: join us on Friday? She said yes. I said, you 474 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: picked the musical guest. She picked it. I said, that's 475 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: very uncomfortable, but we'll do it anyway, and we'll do 476 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: it next with the head coach of the Fever. See Okay, 477 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: kudos to you, Eddie, kudos. I was super worried that 478 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: when coach Stephanie White of the Fever said she likes 479 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: Adele and that that's what she wanted as her intro music. 480 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: That considering that their their year came to an end, 481 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: I was worried that you were going to get snarky 482 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: with it and play the we could have had it 483 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: all the and then it gets uncomfortable, you know what 484 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: I mean, Because there are two ways when a season ends. 485 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: I think oftentimes and look for any team, it goes 486 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 1: without saying for any team when a season ends, there 487 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: is disappointment right in the moment, but then you can 488 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: kind of step back and and get a broader view 489 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: of it. And I wanted to do exactly that with 490 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 1: the head coach of the Indiana Fever who joins us 491 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: on the program, Stephanie White, coach, how are you. 492 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 3: I'm doing all right? How about you? 493 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 1: No complaints? I wanted to I wanted to begin with this. 494 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: I wanted to read you this. And this is one 495 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 1: of many comments that I got when we talked about 496 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: that overtime performance with Las Vegas and everything that went 497 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 1: into that game and the resolve that your team showed. 498 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 1: I got the following from a guy who is a 499 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 1: high school basketball coach. He said, last night, it was 500 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: so spot on when everything you talked about and how 501 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: it leads to being so proud of a sports team. 502 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: Win or lose is one thing, but sometimes a team 503 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 1: does everything that you would want in a team, and 504 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: it's something that is a fan it makes you proud 505 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: of the fact that they represent nice job to the 506 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: fever of representing Indiana basketball the right way, and I 507 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: totally agree with that. And I'm curious though, if you know, 508 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: from a professional standpoint, because you have a job to do, coach, 509 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: are you able to really step back and say that 510 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: was remarkable what we were able to do. 511 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 5: You know, I think maybe in a couple of weeks 512 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 5: I'll be able to do that really realistically. You look 513 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 5: at it and you think, yes, it's it's pretty remarkable. 514 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 5: But at the same time, that's what sport it's all about. 515 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 5: I mean, we think about, you know, the history of sport. 516 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 5: It's it's oftentimes the most inspirational stories are the are 517 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 5: the you know, remarkable ones right against all odds, ones, 518 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 5: the ones that have you know, really good human beings 519 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 5: that that set an example for for life, not just 520 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 5: for sport. 521 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 3: And you know, that's what this group was, you. 522 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 5: Know, and and oftentimes when you when you may not 523 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 5: be as talented as your opponent, or when you may 524 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 5: not you know, have have all of the things that 525 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 5: that that that that other teams or other people do. 526 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 5: It takes the intangibles, and it takes the connectedness, and 527 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 5: it takes something different inside of you. And I think 528 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,959 Speaker 5: that that's what this group has had you. 529 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: There was a clip that was shown on television where 530 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,959 Speaker 1: they had you miked up and during a time it 531 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,959 Speaker 1: was after Kelsey Mitchell had gone down. And you know, 532 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: we now know that that injury. And I want to 533 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: give full kudos and credit to the medical staff that 534 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: was there because we thought it was just, oh, she 535 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: has a leg cramp, and we now know that that's 536 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: something that could have been more severe and will be 537 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: monitored moving forward. But thankfully they were just so fast 538 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: to act on that, and and that deserves a tip 539 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: of the cap. But you've got to then kind of 540 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: rally your team together and you're saying to them, no 541 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: one is more prepared for and I'm paraphrasing, no one 542 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: is better built to be able to respond to this 543 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: than we are. Nobody can handle this like we can. 544 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: When you were saying that coach, could you see in 545 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: their eyes that they that they believed what you were saying. 546 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 5: I saw fear to start and and that's why I 547 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 5: said it, because we had had so many of those 548 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 5: of those moments. 549 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 3: And at the time, we obviously didn't know what was 550 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 3: going on with Kelsey. Uh. We thought it was. 551 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 5: Cramp cramping as well, and and so you know, the 552 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 5: the severity of of of what was happening wasn't there. 553 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 5: But in any time you see a teammate go down, 554 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 5: it's it's hard. And and we've had all many of 555 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 5: those moments, unfortunately throughout the course of the year, and 556 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 5: we've had to rally around them and rally for them, 557 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 5: and and and rally one another, and so you know, 558 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 5: in that moment, it was just a sense that it 559 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 5: could have been been a breaking point for our team, 560 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 5: but reminding them what we've been through, reminding them that 561 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 5: that we could find another gear, find another level, that 562 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 5: we could find something inside of us that was playing 563 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 5: for something more than just to win a basketball game, 564 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 5: because we had done it multiple times, and quite frankly, 565 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 5: just reminding them who they are in that moment and 566 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 5: whether it was going to go our way or not, 567 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 5: you know, we still needed to find something to play for. 568 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: And by the way, that injury for those that are unfamiliar, 569 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: and it's a medical term that I'm not even going 570 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: to try to pronounce, but essentially what happened was she 571 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: had a muscle deficiency where her muscles for a five 572 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: to seven second period essentially paralyzed on her and she 573 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: could not move her muscles, and that is something that 574 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: will be monitored moving forward. We certainly hope the best 575 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: for Kelsey Mitchell in terms of the way that in 576 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: that game, I just thought it was a microcosm of 577 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: your season because every single time, and I'm not gonna 578 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: lie to you, Stephanie White, the Fever coaches, our guest 579 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: here with sport coach, and I think you know this. 580 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,479 Speaker 1: You know sometimes when you are involved from a working 581 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: standpoint in a game, you see it differently. You know this. 582 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: I mean you've done radio and done tellelevision analysis of games. 583 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: You just kind of watch it differently, right, like the 584 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: fandom and you kind of goes away, right. It is 585 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: becomes rare with teams that all of a sudden, I 586 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: get fifteen year old me comes out again and I'm 587 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: pacing and whatever else I actually did that in this 588 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: game because I wanted it was such a great story 589 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: and I loved the resolve of it. And every time 590 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: it got to like five points, I thought, oh gosh, 591 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: and then I'd turn around and I come back and boom, 592 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: it's tied again. It was a microcosm of exactly your year. 593 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: How was that? What is it about this group that 594 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: was different? 595 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 3: Uh? 596 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 5: You know, I think number one, I truly believe in 597 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 5: my heart that connected teams are winning teams. 598 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 3: And this is a group that was incredibly connected. And it's. 599 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 5: Not something that you can produce. It's something that happens organically. 600 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 5: And this group or who came into the locker room 601 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 5: at what point in the season they came into the 602 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 5: locker room that the people who had been here navigated, embraced, empowered, 603 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 5: and also showed them the way. 604 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 2: Uh. 605 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 5: You know, we had gosh, four or five five people 606 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 5: on our team that didn't start the year with us, 607 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 5: if I'm right about that. And our mantra from the 608 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 5: very beginning of the year was we over me. You know, 609 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 5: we started the season understanding that we had a lot 610 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 5: of talent in the room, in the locker room, but 611 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 5: also with with a lot of talent comes challenges because 612 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 5: not everybody's gonna get to play, even when they should 613 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 5: deserve to play, you know, not everything and and and 614 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 5: so we we started the year talking about we over 615 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 5: me and every time a new player came in, they 616 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 5: hadn't been in our locker room since April. But the 617 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 5: players in our locker room lived that. They showed them 618 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 5: how to live. That they they they they held them 619 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 5: accountable to that, and and that that connectedness, that sacrifice 620 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 5: for one another, the sacon or fight. 621 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 3: For the team. 622 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 5: Uh, it just it enabled us to find another level 623 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 5: and another year. And you know, it's in sport, it's 624 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,399 Speaker 5: about getting hot at the right time. And this group 625 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 5: did that. I think, you know, when we did it 626 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,359 Speaker 5: was a result of that had probably been the team 627 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 5: that had been together the longest throughout the course of 628 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,760 Speaker 5: the season. And again, as we know in sports, especially 629 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 5: when you're watching it from an analytical perspective and not 630 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 5: a fan perspective, it does take time to build that 631 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 5: chemistry and connectedness and connectivity on the floor. And that 632 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 5: group had the time to do it. I'm not sure 633 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 5: at any other point in the season we had a 634 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,399 Speaker 5: consistent enough you know, eight, nine, ten, players that were 635 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 5: playing that we were able to do that. 636 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: When you look at Stephanie White, the head coach of 637 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: the Fever, is our guest coach over the course of 638 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: the year, you know, especially with when you have a 639 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: player like Caitlin Clark who is such a transcendent star. Right, 640 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: So you're going to have people following what your team 641 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 1: is doing that maybe didn't even follow the U the 642 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: NBA three years ago. You're gonna have people that don't 643 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 1: follow the WNBA but follow Caitlyn Clark, et cetera. From 644 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 1: a coaching standpoint at times, that can create no win 645 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 1: situations because you're gonna be scrutinized in whichever way you 646 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: play it in any aspect when it comes to a 647 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: player like that. There was critique of Stephanie White at 648 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: the beginning of the year before really Caitlyn Clark went 649 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: down with injury, just over the play and then the 650 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: way things came together and the fact that at the 651 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 1: end of the year everyone's saying this is coach at 652 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,320 Speaker 1: the year level stuff. Did you feel vindicated? 653 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, obviously we don't really do 654 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 3: it to for other people's opinions. 655 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 5: You know, it's it's I had a coach when I 656 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 5: very first started coaching. Tell me, if I started listening 657 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 5: to the people that were that were in the stands, 658 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 5: then I wouldn't be coaching very long and I'd be 659 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 5: sitting with them before too long. 660 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 3: So, you know, we don't do it for that. We 661 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 3: don't do it for them. You know. We do it 662 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 3: for our players and our team. And we do it 663 00:35:59,080 --> 00:35:59,959 Speaker 3: because we love the game. 664 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 5: Man. 665 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 3: We do it because we love the sport. 666 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 5: You know, I love this franchise, and nobody is ever 667 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 5: going to be happy. You know. I appreciate uh fever 668 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 5: basketball fans in particular, and basketball fans from the state 669 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 5: of Indiana, because they know the game. They understand the 670 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 5: nuance of the game. And and so for me, uh, 671 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,240 Speaker 5: it wasn't really about vindication. It was about just putting 672 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 5: the best team and and that we could forward. I 673 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 5: understand that it doesn't happen, you know, automatically. I also 674 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 5: understand that that it that it's it's one of those 675 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 5: things that you have to get lucky, Like you don't 676 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 5: just go win championships, like it is hard to get 677 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 5: to the finals. It is hard to win championships. 678 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 3: I know that there are. 679 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 5: Teams who make it look easy, and sometimes there are 680 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 5: dynasties that make it look easy. But because of my 681 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 5: experience in this sport and twenty six years in this league, 682 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 5: you know, I understand the difference and have been a 683 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 5: part of some really great teams and have also been 684 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 5: a part of of the franchise obviously when it first started. 685 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 5: So so I don't know vindicated is the right word, 686 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 5: as much as I just feel incredibly proud. 687 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 3: Of the foundation that we laid in terms of our culture. 688 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 5: I feel really proud of the group that came together 689 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 5: to find a way no matter what. 690 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 3: I feel really proud. 691 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 5: Of my staff because I do feel like we have 692 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 5: the best staff you know in the league, and we're 693 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 5: creative and we're we try to think outside the box 694 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 5: and we try to put people in positions to be successful. 695 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 5: And so I think more than anything, I just the 696 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 5: word that comes to mind at the end of the 697 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 5: year is just pride. 698 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 1: When you look at the league itself from the time 699 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 1: that you played to now, Stephanie White, in the growth 700 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 1: of the league and the growth of the growth of 701 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 1: the interest of the league. One of the byproducts of 702 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 1: that is that means that the business aspect of it 703 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: is going to be scrutinized and people are going to 704 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 1: pay a lot more attention to it. That's become obviously, 705 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 1: and we're heading into an off season that's going to 706 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 1: be fascinating with the collective bargain. And then you have 707 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: the commissioner, Kathy Engelbert. I know you're aware of the 708 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 1: comments that THEFISTA call you're made, and then Kitlyn Clark 709 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: kind of getting brought into that, Caitlyn Clark responding to it. 710 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: What has been your overall assessment of that dialogue and 711 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: as it relates to your star player. 712 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I hate I hate it all for Caitlin. 713 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 5: You know, I feel like, you know, she's a twenty 714 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,319 Speaker 5: three year old kid who loves to play this game, 715 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 5: who is a pawn in a lot of other people's 716 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 5: games and a lot of other people's narratives, and I 717 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 5: hate that for her. 718 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 4: You know. 719 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 3: It's it's we're coming into a time in the w 720 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 3: n B A where we're where we're. 721 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 5: Kind of part of the growing pains of becoming quote 722 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 5: unquote mainstreams professional sport is some of this stuff. 723 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:51,280 Speaker 3: You know, I do. 724 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 5: Think that we are at a pivotal moment in terms 725 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 5: of the league's history. And look, I was a part 726 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 5: of the very first collective bargaining agreement of the w 727 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 5: NBA where we wanted insurance all year long. So now 728 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 5: where it is growing and players do deserve more, and 729 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 5: leadership needs to reflect, uh, where we are as a 730 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 5: league and and and and also understand where we are 731 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,320 Speaker 5: as a league and where players perspectives are coming from. 732 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 5: And you know we have coaches on the sidelines and 733 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 5: and Becky Hammond and myself and of course no Equinn 734 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,359 Speaker 5: who was in Seattle, who played in this league, who 735 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:26,839 Speaker 5: like this. 736 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 3: League is is is part of our of our of 737 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 3: our lifeblood. 738 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 5: Like we we have grown up in this league and 739 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 5: we take pride in this league and the success of 740 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 5: this league. And we also take pride in understanding what 741 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 5: needs to be done and in leadership. And part of 742 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 5: leadership is taking accountability. Part of leadership is is owning 743 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 5: how we move the needle. Part of leadership is not 744 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,919 Speaker 5: just recognizing uh, the people who who who are part 745 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 5: of this this league, but empowering and embracing and understanding. 746 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:00,240 Speaker 3: Uh what they bring. 747 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 5: And you know, your employees are your number one asset 748 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,759 Speaker 5: and and so I I do feel like we're we're 749 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 5: at a pivotal moment. I do feel like we're at 750 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 5: a time where where all things have to be considered 751 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 5: and where multiple truths are do exist, certainly, and I 752 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 5: think that sometimes right now in our in our country 753 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 5: and in our world, we we forget that multiple truths 754 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 5: can't exist. But you know, I think we are at 755 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,359 Speaker 5: that at that point to begin to have these very 756 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 5: hard conversations about what it looks like moving forward. 757 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 1: Do you believe the w n b A has the 758 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 1: leadership right now that it needs? 759 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 5: You know, it's I think it's a tough question because 760 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,399 Speaker 5: I do believe that that where we are and where 761 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 5: we have been, especially from a business standpoint, you know, 762 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 5: it's it's. 763 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:44,760 Speaker 3: It's it's what we've needed. 764 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,360 Speaker 5: I do think that there's another layer and level to 765 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 5: having someone who who understands the basketball side of the league, 766 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 5: and whether that's direct leadership or whether that's you know, 767 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 5: building out our basketball operation, our department, you know, within 768 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 5: the league. I do think that the more that we 769 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,359 Speaker 5: can get former players involved, the more that we can 770 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 5: get people who have grown up in this league who 771 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 5: don't see this league as it was ten years ago 772 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 5: as it was fifteen years ago. You know, you've got 773 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:17,840 Speaker 5: to see the league for what it is now and 774 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,720 Speaker 5: where it's going. Much in the same way that college 775 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 5: sports is not what it was ten years ago, not 776 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 5: what it was five years ago. The w NBA is 777 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 5: not what it was ten years ago. And I do 778 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 5: think that there are some folks in leadership position who 779 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 5: still think of it that way. So I think we 780 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 5: do need some addition to our basketball operations part of 781 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 5: the league, and I think we do need some forward 782 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:45,280 Speaker 5: thinking in that as well. But more than anything, accountability 783 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 5: can go a long way, and we just want some 784 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 5: accountability for some of the concerns that have been consistent 785 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 5: concerns for multiple years. 786 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:59,280 Speaker 1: Do you with Caitlin Clark in this as we move forward, 787 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: coach like navigating through just being that that pawn as 788 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,319 Speaker 1: you said, does she have kind of her own team 789 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 1: that that that guides are through that or does she 790 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 1: lean on you a lot in that regard as well? 791 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:17,760 Speaker 3: Look, she's she is so mature for her age. 792 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,359 Speaker 5: I mean, Jake, thinking back to when we were twenty 793 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 5: three years old. 794 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 3: Holy cow, I know it was. 795 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,719 Speaker 5: A long time ago, five years ago, right, But but 796 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 5: she's so mature. She she she has people, you know, 797 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 5: in her corner and and people that can that can 798 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 5: help her. 799 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 3: She she gets it. 800 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,720 Speaker 5: She understands the big picture. You know, we'll have conversations. 801 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,800 Speaker 5: You know, I've I've been in a very small way 802 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,879 Speaker 5: in some of the some of the situations that she's 803 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,400 Speaker 5: been in, you know, certainly not with with social media 804 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,399 Speaker 5: and all of that stuff. But you know, we've got 805 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,880 Speaker 5: players or in staff that that have played in this league, 806 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 5: but but no one outside of Tiger Woods, right A, 807 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,760 Speaker 5: Serena Will you can probably name just maybe a handful 808 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:07,840 Speaker 5: more of athletes who have been the game changers and 809 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 5: who have experienced what Caitlin Clark is experiencing, so that 810 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,319 Speaker 5: no one can can really relate to what she's going through. 811 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 5: I think the biggest thing is we can be there 812 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,839 Speaker 5: for her. You know, we can, we can offer perspective 813 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 5: and do what we can to help, you know, deflect 814 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 5: and navigate. But at the same time, you know, it's 815 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 5: it's a life that she has to lead, and you know, 816 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 5: I think she does it admirably. I'm not sure that 817 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,959 Speaker 5: myself at twenty three years old or myself at forty 818 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 5: eight years old could do it in the same way 819 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,280 Speaker 5: that she does with so much grace and humility. 820 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 1: Lastly, Coach, I wanted to share this and it's it 821 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,760 Speaker 1: sounds personal, but it's public and I'll tell you why. 822 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 1: And I know that I've pointed this out to you. 823 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 1: I've mentioned this on the radio before as well. But 824 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 1: over the course of this season, my dad has gone 825 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 1: through a challenging medical period and while he is hopefully 826 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 1: and thankfully looks like he's going to be okay, it's 827 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,239 Speaker 1: not to say that it has not been along road 828 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 1: with a lot of challenges. And the one thing, literally 829 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 1: the one thing on the daily basis that was like 830 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 1: my assignment, was to make sure on his board where 831 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,920 Speaker 1: he is getting his treatments, that he knows when the 832 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,400 Speaker 1: next fever game's on. He has his fever hat that 833 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,319 Speaker 1: he would put on for every game. He's been a 834 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 1: lifelong sports fan. I don't know that I've seen him 835 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:33,320 Speaker 1: magnetize towards a group and towards a team in giving 836 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 1: him on a day to day basis a purpose like 837 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 1: what you guys did. And I say that not for 838 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 1: the awkward nature of a personal story on the radio, 839 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 1: but because I think it's a public one because I 840 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 1: think so many people in this town found that and 841 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,359 Speaker 1: saw that, and I hope, while I know it's been 842 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 1: a disappointment in the way the year ended for you guys, 843 00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 1: and you have a lot going on that at some 844 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 1: point you're able to it back and accept the gratitude 845 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 1: of a city and of a state for representing it 846 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 1: the right way and giving a lot of people a purpose. 847 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,239 Speaker 5: Well, I appreciate that, Jake, Thank you so much. And 848 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,880 Speaker 5: you know this, like I said, this, this group is 849 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 5: you mentioned it doing it the right way, you know, 850 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:22,760 Speaker 5: leading by example, and we we we often talk about, 851 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 5: you know, sport is the greatest, is the greatest indicator 852 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,440 Speaker 5: of life and of life lessons. 853 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 3: And I think that this. 854 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:35,360 Speaker 5: Group, uh has has shown, community has shown, you know, 855 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,920 Speaker 5: the league has shown the nation, you know, a lot 856 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,440 Speaker 5: of really good life lessons and been leaders in a 857 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,479 Speaker 5: lot of different ways, and so I'm really proud of them. 858 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 1: Well, coach, enjoy the off season. I know there's still 859 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,240 Speaker 1: a lot of work to do. You are welcome back anytime, 860 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 1: but I am most most, most most grateful for your 861 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 1: time over the course of the season. 862 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 3: I appreciate Jake, Thank. 863 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,720 Speaker 1: You Stephanie White, the head coach of the Indiana Fever. 864 00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,239 Speaker 1: All right, a lot more to get you. We'll get 865 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,760 Speaker 1: back into that injury report for the Colts and Raiders 866 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,320 Speaker 1: coming up on Sunday, because there are some key names 867 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,799 Speaker 1: in it, and as well, Kyle Nettrip going to join us. 868 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 1: Still on the program today, Kevin Bowen, and it's a 869 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,319 Speaker 1: Franciscan health feel good good for the hard Friday. All 870 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 1: still to come here ninety three five one on seventy 871 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 1: five the Fan. You know, every once in a while 872 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 1: and there is big news to get to here in 873 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,439 Speaker 1: literally just a moment that I will get to about 874 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 1: the Colts and the Raiders. But every once in a 875 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,319 Speaker 1: while on social media, you'll see somebody that'll post something 876 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,759 Speaker 1: and then the comments just are the best, like just 877 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,319 Speaker 1: average everyday people that and you know, we're like a. 878 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,200 Speaker 2: Couple of middle school boys in here just giggling on 879 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,360 Speaker 2: some of the stuff that'll question out there on the internet. 880 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,760 Speaker 1: So you've heard JAMV and I talk on a regular 881 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 1: basis about the awesomeness that was the nineteen seventies and 882 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:50,759 Speaker 1: early eighties NFL pajama set. You had, you had under Rus, 883 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 1: you had the pajamas, You had the trash can, you 884 00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:54,320 Speaker 1: had letter jackets. 885 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,319 Speaker 2: I had all of it, I mean all of it. 886 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:57,719 Speaker 2: Did you have the one that you saw? 887 00:46:58,440 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 6: Oh? 888 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,280 Speaker 1: I have photos of me with the robe and they 889 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 1: all were made in this like terrible, this weird polyester 890 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 1: nit deal. And this ad that was posted somebody just 891 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,160 Speaker 1: posted I think it was Super seventy Sports posted it, 892 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,399 Speaker 1: and it's an ad from the nineteen seventies for the 893 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 1: NFL pajamas. 894 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,280 Speaker 2: Did you have those specific ones that they were highlighting 895 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:21,480 Speaker 2: in the adjacent. 896 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 1: Yes, But the one in there at the top, it's 897 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,840 Speaker 1: the selling point of the ad in like nineteen seventy 898 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 1: seven says flame retardant, and it has a picture of 899 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 1: a kid in his Vikings pajamas and it's and the 900 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,520 Speaker 1: above it it says, if the house is on fire, 901 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 1: don't worry about little Johnny. He's upstairs at his Vikings pajamas. 902 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,520 Speaker 1: And then the comments are fabulous. But somebody said, you know, 903 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,319 Speaker 1: like Johnny started the fire because they fell asleep with 904 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:53,799 Speaker 1: a lung dart, you know whatever. But those pajamas like 905 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:58,879 Speaker 1: I had, I think everybody somebody else commented, they said, 906 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:00,759 Speaker 1: my gosh, is if it was wasn't bad enough in 907 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 1: the eighties worrying about being abducted in nuclear war. Now 908 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,400 Speaker 1: we had house fires breaking out in the middle of 909 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,799 Speaker 1: the night to worry about. Based on that ad. But 910 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:12,319 Speaker 1: the static electricity from those pajamas, literally, you'd get up 911 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,960 Speaker 1: and take one step in the morning, you look like 912 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,719 Speaker 1: Doc Brown. I mean, the static electricity would shock through 913 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 1: you like nobody's business. 914 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 2: You didn't need a night light. You just rub up 915 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,319 Speaker 2: against something. You'd be sparking out. 916 00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,839 Speaker 1: No question. Although if it was for a night light 917 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 1: instead of the nightlight, you just reached over and turned 918 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,160 Speaker 1: on your NFL lamp, which I also had and still have, 919 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 1: mind you. And is that an antique, boy, it's got 920 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 1: to be close because it's from probably nineteen seventy eight. 921 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 1: And again, and I know that you know Ed Holleran 922 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,360 Speaker 1: hollers at the clouds over the fact that I mentioned 923 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,279 Speaker 1: that when I was a kid, I was a Steelers fan, 924 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,879 Speaker 1: and he like thinks I should be, you know, kicked 925 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 1: out of Indiana permanently because I did not grow up 926 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,880 Speaker 1: a Colts fan. But Ed doesn't seem to grasp that 927 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,600 Speaker 1: that was hard for me to do because in nineteen 928 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,680 Speaker 1: seventy eight, nineteen seventy nine, nineteen eighty, nineteen eighty one, 929 00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,160 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty two. When I was a kid, the Colts 930 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,640 Speaker 1: were in Baltimore and then were terrible, mind you, but 931 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 1: for those pajama sets and everything else. You basically you've 932 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,759 Speaker 1: heard me mention this a thousand times. You had your 933 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:21,840 Speaker 1: choice between Colts, Steelers, Packers, Vikings, oddly enough maybe Bengals 934 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,680 Speaker 1: and Bears, and then the other one would be the Raiders, 935 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,200 Speaker 1: who are coming here this Sunday. And by the way, 936 00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 1: Steelers was the team because my dad worked in the 937 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:34,279 Speaker 1: steel business that I had like, Raiders are coming here. 938 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,000 Speaker 1: And here's what we know in terms of the Colts, 939 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:44,480 Speaker 1: do we happen to have the breaking news sounder Eddie Tyler, Goodson, 940 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:59,080 Speaker 1: Kenny Moore, the second, Daniel Scott, and Alec Pierce have 941 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,839 Speaker 1: all been ruled out for the Colts game coming up 942 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,319 Speaker 1: Sunday against the Las Vegas Raiders. Now that's not to 943 00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:10,799 Speaker 1: say that there are not others that you keep an 944 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 1: eye on to see. For example, on you know, Matt 945 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,239 Speaker 1: Gonzalvez on the right side of the line. He did 946 00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,359 Speaker 1: participate in practice all week, but he did not play 947 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:21,560 Speaker 1: week goo But it looks like he is going to 948 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:25,200 Speaker 1: be good to go. But there is a receiver for 949 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,600 Speaker 1: the Colts, Eddie that appeared on the injury report kind 950 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:29,920 Speaker 1: of at the last minute, right. 951 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:34,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Alexis. But on Alec pierce front, Jake statin Steichen 952 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:39,160 Speaker 2: said that he didn't clear tusher protocol. Obviously, Pierce felt 953 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,839 Speaker 2: bad after practicing on Thursday. Now, the receiver that ended 954 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,240 Speaker 2: up on the injury report after yesterday's practice that wasn't 955 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,440 Speaker 2: on there following Wednesdays was Michael Pittman Jr. 956 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,520 Speaker 1: With a tissue issue. It was a hamstring injury. A 957 00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:56,640 Speaker 1: tissue issue. Yeah, I don't know that I would want 958 00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,920 Speaker 1: any injury of mine listed as a tissue issue. 959 00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,640 Speaker 2: Right, it's a hamstring injury. He was not listed as 960 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 2: a tissue issue. 961 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,240 Speaker 1: I thought you said it was a tissue issue. 962 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,799 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean the hamstring is a tissue. The 963 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:12,279 Speaker 2: hamstring is a muscle, isn't it. The soft tissue is injury. 964 00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:17,960 Speaker 2: I thought the soft tissue is I was thinking tissue injury. 965 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,160 Speaker 2: I guess you're right. I was thinking tissue injuries were. 966 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,440 Speaker 1: Like when they have like ligament stuff like sprained ankle, 967 00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,560 Speaker 1: that kind of thing is always listed as a tissue. 968 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:27,920 Speaker 1: Can you look that up as a tissue the ligaments 969 00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,000 Speaker 1: or is the tissue muscle? It refers to damage occurring 970 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,000 Speaker 1: to the soft parts of the muscule. I can't even 971 00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,960 Speaker 1: say that word any muscular muscular skeletal system. There we go, 972 00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:42,160 Speaker 1: including muscles and ligaments. So basically anything that can tear 973 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:46,920 Speaker 1: is a soft tissue. Otherwise it's a bone, right, But 974 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,960 Speaker 1: I would expect that Pittman goes right. You would think 975 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:54,439 Speaker 1: so for the Colts. And then on the other side 976 00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,640 Speaker 1: of it, you know, brock Bowers still is a question 977 00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,759 Speaker 1: mark for the Raiders, but I think for sure Bowers 978 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,839 Speaker 1: goes I think he plays. It's just a matter of 979 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:10,319 Speaker 1: you know, how effective he's going to be. But he 980 00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:14,080 Speaker 1: is the kind of player that is effective regardless of 981 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,640 Speaker 1: the number of looks he's getting if he's not getting 982 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,919 Speaker 1: open in space. I don't know that you're worried about 983 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,480 Speaker 1: it just because of the fact that he has the ability. 984 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:27,719 Speaker 1: Does brock Bowers like Tyler Warren? You know, did you 985 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:32,400 Speaker 1: ever play? You know I didn't, so Eddie, certainly I 986 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 1: would assume that you did not. But there was a 987 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:41,320 Speaker 1: game years ago around the time of the Flame retardant pajamas. Okay, 988 00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,560 Speaker 1: there were these games that you could get that were 989 00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:51,160 Speaker 1: magnetic football games, and there would be one little I 990 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,239 Speaker 1: don't even know how it worked exactly, but you would 991 00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,839 Speaker 1: turn it on and there were all the little army 992 00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,040 Speaker 1: looking guys, but there were football players on the on 993 00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:05,600 Speaker 1: this metallic field, and you know, and they'd barely move 994 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:07,359 Speaker 1: around and there was like one and then it would 995 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,080 Speaker 1: it would magnetize and the pieces could come on. There 996 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,560 Speaker 1: was always one piece that just kind of like floated 997 00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,680 Speaker 1: around on its own, and other things kind of magnetized 998 00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:20,480 Speaker 1: towards it. That's essentially what Tyler Warren and brock Bauers 999 00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:25,840 Speaker 1: both are for their respective offenses. The Yes, the Raiders, 1000 00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,319 Speaker 1: like the Colts, have a dynamic running back in their 1001 00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:32,279 Speaker 1: backfield that you assume can open things up and get 1002 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:36,000 Speaker 1: things going for you, but so much of that is 1003 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:42,600 Speaker 1: based upon the defense being softened out or stretched out. 1004 00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:47,080 Speaker 1: You know, I'm going to give you the worst analogy 1005 00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:47,640 Speaker 1: of all time. 1006 00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,040 Speaker 2: Oh okay, I'll just go ahead and I'll fire the sounder. 1007 00:53:51,239 --> 00:54:01,080 Speaker 1: Here's okay. I use this analogy when I do track 1008 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,719 Speaker 1: tours for IndyCar stuff, and it's probably more applicable when 1009 00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:08,120 Speaker 1: trying to distinguish the difference between the softer compound red 1010 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:12,680 Speaker 1: tires and the primary tires in IndyCar racing. But follow 1011 00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:16,400 Speaker 1: me here, Eddie. You have had bazooka gum before? Correct? 1012 00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:16,560 Speaker 3: Oh? 1013 00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:17,040 Speaker 2: Yes? 1014 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,240 Speaker 1: Or bubble gum hubbah bubba bubble is just yes, yes, 1015 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:25,880 Speaker 1: when you take that gum okay, and you before you 1016 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,880 Speaker 1: really start chewing it and you know it's been in 1017 00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:30,680 Speaker 1: your mouth for a while and you can you're blowing 1018 00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,560 Speaker 1: bubbles with it and whatever else. When you first get 1019 00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:37,439 Speaker 1: that that piece of bazuka bubble gum, I mean, it's 1020 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:38,960 Speaker 1: like you drop it on the ground. It's like a 1021 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:40,120 Speaker 1: piece of plastic, right. 1022 00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:42,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1023 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:46,680 Speaker 1: But then eventually, after it's been in use a little bit, 1024 00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,440 Speaker 1: when you can begin to stretch it out. Now, all 1025 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,279 Speaker 1: of a sudden, it is much easier to not only 1026 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,400 Speaker 1: blow a bubble, but the expansion of it. It is 1027 00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,000 Speaker 1: a lot lighter, and it's easier to poke something through 1028 00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:57,960 Speaker 1: it if you will. 1029 00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,320 Speaker 2: Big League two, you can get some gnarly bubbles. 1030 00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:05,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, but the flavor lasted like half an inning. Yep. 1031 00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,600 Speaker 1: But what Tyler Warren and brock Bowers both do for 1032 00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:14,399 Speaker 1: their respective offenses. Is it feels like when you look 1033 00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:19,440 Speaker 1: at a defense, the Colts a year ago, offensively speaking, 1034 00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:24,200 Speaker 1: allowed every defense to basically be a fresh out of 1035 00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,520 Speaker 1: the rapper piece of Bazuka bubblegum. It just was this 1036 00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,880 Speaker 1: block right there. They could load up the box and 1037 00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:34,400 Speaker 1: you weren't worried about the defense didn't have to expand 1038 00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,840 Speaker 1: and stretch itself out. But now when you get Tyler 1039 00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,480 Speaker 1: Warren on the field and for the Raiders, Block Powers 1040 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:41,719 Speaker 1: is the same guy. As a matter of fact, you 1041 00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:43,839 Speaker 1: would go so far as to say the Colts are 1042 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:47,960 Speaker 1: basically trying to emulate Brock Powers what those guys do, 1043 00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,120 Speaker 1: because you can put them anywhere and you have to 1044 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,640 Speaker 1: constantly be aware of where they are. That defense now 1045 00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,600 Speaker 1: is going from being that right out of the wrapper 1046 00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,239 Speaker 1: piece of Bazuka bubblegum to one that's needing to be 1047 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,480 Speaker 1: stretched to cover as many areas of the field as possible, 1048 00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,200 Speaker 1: and thus it is a lot easier to penetrate through 1049 00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,799 Speaker 1: it once you break through. And that's what is so 1050 00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,000 Speaker 1: important about brock Bauers for the Raiders, and the fact 1051 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,440 Speaker 1: that defensively you have to be aware, even if you 1052 00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:17,560 Speaker 1: don't know whether or not they're going to test that 1053 00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,600 Speaker 1: knee that he's gonna have wrapped to get him the football. 1054 00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,120 Speaker 1: The reality is that you have to be aware of 1055 00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:27,040 Speaker 1: where he is and that stretches you out now where 1056 00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,120 Speaker 1: you just can't load that up and be that one 1057 00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:29,840 Speaker 1: square piece. 1058 00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:36,080 Speaker 2: Also yes to agree. Also, Shane Steikeen was asked today 1059 00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,640 Speaker 2: about the status of a d Mitchell and if I'll 1060 00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:43,160 Speaker 2: play on Sunday and for some reason, Jake, I've seen 1061 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,080 Speaker 2: a lot of reporting that there was some random noises 1062 00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:53,440 Speaker 2: and if you recall Jake, that that specific Jack and 1063 00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:57,000 Speaker 2: that will care that happens when they're working through stuff. 1064 00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:00,239 Speaker 2: That's right, That's that's right, and so yeah, Shane Steikeen's said, 1065 00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,480 Speaker 2: we're working through that when asked about eighty Mitchell's playing 1066 00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:03,640 Speaker 2: status for Sunday. 1067 00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:06,759 Speaker 1: Now just out of curiosity is that because and wait 1068 00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,000 Speaker 1: for it here. But the other sound effect that you 1069 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:10,800 Speaker 1: can hear it and it doesn't necessarily come from the 1070 00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,000 Speaker 1: field where you hear that noise of guys working through it, 1071 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,080 Speaker 1: but rather when you get back towards the locker room 1072 00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,160 Speaker 1: area and near the showers, there are oftentimes guys that 1073 00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,320 Speaker 1: simply afterwards, you know what they have to do correct, Eddie. 1074 00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:23,840 Speaker 1: You can hear it. You can hear them singing it 1075 00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:27,920 Speaker 1: from afar because if they once they work through some things, 1076 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,160 Speaker 1: then they can go out there. But if they just 1077 00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,320 Speaker 1: have the slightest of hiccups, that means the next day 1078 00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:33,000 Speaker 1: they've got to do this. 1079 00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:36,040 Speaker 2: And I bat on me, Jake, bad producer. 1080 00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,720 Speaker 1: I don't have a ready. You don't have the zestfully 1081 00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:43,240 Speaker 1: clean sounder. I don't have already. I'm so sorry. That's 1082 00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:45,080 Speaker 1: not a hot key. We need to have a meeting 1083 00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:49,240 Speaker 1: about this. They have that hot key, we have that, 1084 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,600 Speaker 1: but you don't have the the the always popular we 1085 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,680 Speaker 1: got to clean it up sound bite. There we go. 1086 00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:03,960 Speaker 1: That's the sound you hear once they've gone out there 1087 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:05,720 Speaker 1: and they just simply have to clean things up. This 1088 00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,200 Speaker 1: is a process setting, not unlike this program. You know 1089 00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:09,920 Speaker 1: what we got to do in this program, right, We 1090 00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,440 Speaker 1: come in each and every day just to try to 1091 00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,480 Speaker 1: get work done right at noon, right, And this is 1092 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,560 Speaker 1: what it sounds like when, of course we just come 1093 00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,160 Speaker 1: in to try to get the job done. But then 1094 00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:20,960 Speaker 1: if all of a sudden I asked for something and 1095 00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,360 Speaker 1: there's a slight hiccup and a delay, it simply means 1096 00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,040 Speaker 1: that we got to clean some things up. Right now, 1097 00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:30,720 Speaker 1: you hear that first, and then you hear this. That's right, 1098 00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:36,840 Speaker 1: you see that is the official sounder of last year's Colts. 1099 00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,280 Speaker 1: But then they've gone to work. They put the hard 1100 00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:43,200 Speaker 1: hats on and they're getting out there. But it is 1101 00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:47,240 Speaker 1: curious to see who it without Alec Pierce. Pierce has 1102 00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,920 Speaker 1: the same impact, to be honest with you as Warren 1103 00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,640 Speaker 1: to an extent, and we didn't think that initially. We 1104 00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:57,520 Speaker 1: thought Alec Pierce was the guy that was there to 1105 00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:59,880 Speaker 1: open things up because you had to always be aware 1106 00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:03,040 Speaker 1: of him for the long ball situation. I think we're 1107 00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:06,960 Speaker 1: seeing that Daniel Jones does have that capability, maybe not 1108 00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:11,080 Speaker 1: to the level of the unpredictability of when you can 1109 00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:12,600 Speaker 1: get the long ball out of him like they did 1110 00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:16,880 Speaker 1: with Anthony Richardson. But the thought process by so many people, 1111 00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:21,880 Speaker 1: myself included going into the season was gosh, now that 1112 00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:27,360 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is the quarterback, then Alec Pierce he's got 1113 00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:31,240 Speaker 1: to be it. Kinko's putting together his resume because he 1114 00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:36,800 Speaker 1: is wemply a what's that he's where Kinkos? That's an 1115 00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:41,000 Speaker 1: old uh. Now it's FedEx Okay, but that's where you 1116 00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,160 Speaker 1: used to go, and you know he's on the LinkedIn 1117 00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:46,760 Speaker 1: to put it in twenty twenty five terms, that was 1118 00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:51,200 Speaker 1: the thought, because Pierce is a long ball receiver that 1119 00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:57,280 Speaker 1: gets behind the defense and then boom, they don't have 1120 00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,080 Speaker 1: anybody get in the bather now. And then all of 1121 00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:04,800 Speaker 1: a sudden, as Shane Steichen has done really well, he 1122 01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,000 Speaker 1: realizes and draws up play and comes up with different 1123 01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,160 Speaker 1: ways to utilize pieces, and they started using Pierce in 1124 01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:15,600 Speaker 1: a completely different way, right, in a completely different way. 1125 01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:17,520 Speaker 2: He just turned tried to turn himself into a more 1126 01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,800 Speaker 2: complete receiver to where I forget who we've had on 1127 01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,440 Speaker 2: that that's talked about this. Maybe it was Joeli Ericson. 1128 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,600 Speaker 2: I'm saying just the added element of Pierce being a 1129 01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:31,840 Speaker 2: threat to operate in those intermediate routes opens up the 1130 01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:34,080 Speaker 2: ability to stretch the field because before you could just 1131 01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:36,800 Speaker 2: sit on it and you would know that, hey, Pierce 1132 01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:38,480 Speaker 2: is primarily going to run a go or a deep 1133 01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,200 Speaker 2: post and and that's all he's gonna do. Now you 1134 01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,560 Speaker 2: have to you have to be a little more cognizantive 1135 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:45,919 Speaker 2: and aware of the fact that hey, he could cut 1136 01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:47,920 Speaker 2: over the cut over the middle of the field. And 1137 01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:49,960 Speaker 2: next thing, you know, that's another added element and you 1138 01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,320 Speaker 2: can get Tyler Warren running behind it. Like there's so 1139 01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:54,760 Speaker 2: many things now that you can do when Alec Pierce 1140 01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:56,400 Speaker 2: is out there because of the fact that he has 1141 01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:58,280 Speaker 2: now put it on tape that he can win over 1142 01:00:58,280 --> 01:00:59,040 Speaker 2: the middle of the field. 1143 01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:01,960 Speaker 1: Hey, Jake, I was at Kinko's last week, justin and 1144 01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:06,320 Speaker 1: Fisher's let's go. Have you asked you this? What's ed? 1145 01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,960 Speaker 2: Let me ask you this on the ad front? How 1146 01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,760 Speaker 2: do you handle that? How would you handle it? Because 1147 01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:14,720 Speaker 2: I think I may have a different opinion than you. 1148 01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:25,960 Speaker 1: Adie Mitchell. I'm not in the locker room right And 1149 01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:31,320 Speaker 1: when I say that, and I don't mean I don't 1150 01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,800 Speaker 1: mean like I'm not in there doing interviews. I mean literally, 1151 01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:39,200 Speaker 1: we are not in there behind closed doors right to hear. 1152 01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:42,360 Speaker 2: What is actually said correct or in the meeting rooms 1153 01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:42,880 Speaker 2: for that matter. 1154 01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:48,400 Speaker 1: I know that. Here's the thing I would say about 1155 01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:52,880 Speaker 1: the situation with Adie Mitchell. I think you have to 1156 01:01:52,960 --> 01:02:00,520 Speaker 1: read into the way the teammates reacted to him. If 1157 01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:08,440 Speaker 1: Ady Mitchell is an immature guy that is footloose and 1158 01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:13,080 Speaker 1: fancy free and just doesn't get it. The narrative on 1159 01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,480 Speaker 1: him coming out of college was the fact that he 1160 01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,960 Speaker 1: there were red flags. Those red flags were a combination 1161 01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:26,080 Speaker 1: of lack of attention to detail, lack of understanding of 1162 01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:29,160 Speaker 1: what needs to be done, potential lack of professionalism. That's 1163 01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:32,360 Speaker 1: why ten receivers went before him. He's a talented guy 1164 01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:37,760 Speaker 1: out of a pedigree program, but there were red flags. 1165 01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:41,160 Speaker 1: He did not get off to a great start as 1166 01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:44,720 Speaker 1: a rookie, not because of any sort of from what 1167 01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:48,000 Speaker 1: we could tell you big indiscretion, but just the numbers 1168 01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:52,360 Speaker 1: weren't there, The production was not there. The reality is 1169 01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:55,720 Speaker 1: from a public standpoint and in game situation, and if 1170 01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:59,760 Speaker 1: I'm forgetting one, feel free to remind or correct me 1171 01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:01,520 Speaker 1: at But I don't know that there has been a 1172 01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:05,360 Speaker 1: game where we have seen that egregious a back to 1173 01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:09,000 Speaker 1: back for him in his career so far. I mean 1174 01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,640 Speaker 1: there have been times where he's been quiet, but in 1175 01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:17,160 Speaker 1: terms of just bone headed plays, yeah, and it absolutely 1176 01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:21,800 Speaker 1: merits a discipline of some sort or an awakening. But 1177 01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:25,560 Speaker 1: I think you have to look at the way that 1178 01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:29,520 Speaker 1: his teammates reacted to him and supported him and supported him, 1179 01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:33,440 Speaker 1: and not just it's one thing for guys to come 1180 01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:38,040 Speaker 1: out and say, you know, I've had co workers, and 1181 01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,120 Speaker 1: I want to be very clear, none of them that 1182 01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:43,400 Speaker 1: work here currently, but I've had co workers in my 1183 01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:47,080 Speaker 1: past that people ask me about it and I'm like, oh, yeah, 1184 01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:50,080 Speaker 1: good guy, and I say the right thing, but deep down, 1185 01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:52,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, na, he's like the most toxic person I've 1186 01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:55,480 Speaker 1: ever been around, right, but I say the right things publicly. 1187 01:03:56,560 --> 01:04:00,760 Speaker 1: So I understand that when we are asking questions, that 1188 01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:04,760 Speaker 1: we are asking questions that a lot of times athletes 1189 01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:08,160 Speaker 1: in general are going to keep things kind of private 1190 01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:12,840 Speaker 1: and not air out what goes on. But you can 1191 01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:17,840 Speaker 1: see it in body language and when players are going 1192 01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:19,600 Speaker 1: out of their way to be the one to speak 1193 01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:22,560 Speaker 1: up without being asked about it. So it does appear 1194 01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:26,840 Speaker 1: as though it is a locker room that for now 1195 01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:32,320 Speaker 1: wants Ady Mitchell to get like his you know, he 1196 01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,920 Speaker 1: needs to learn from it. But he is remorseful, he 1197 01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:38,920 Speaker 1: has stepped up, he has apologized to the team. He 1198 01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:41,400 Speaker 1: and it does seem like it's a locker room that 1199 01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:47,560 Speaker 1: wants him to succeed. So therefore there is an element 1200 01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:51,480 Speaker 1: of from a leadership standpoint, allowing within the pack to 1201 01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:54,440 Speaker 1: let those guys sort it out themselves and let the 1202 01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:59,000 Speaker 1: DeForest Buckner's and the Zire Franklin's and you know, offensively, 1203 01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,920 Speaker 1: probably Quintin Else's and everybody says is a real offensive leader. 1204 01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:04,600 Speaker 1: You know, let those guys be the ones to kind 1205 01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:08,440 Speaker 1: of handle the situation. I think sometimes in coaching and 1206 01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:13,320 Speaker 1: sometimes in any walk of life, that the best management 1207 01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:18,120 Speaker 1: sometimes is recognizing and understanding when to interfere and when 1208 01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:21,240 Speaker 1: to let the natural process sort itself out. And if 1209 01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:24,200 Speaker 1: you are the Indianapolis Colts and you're Chris Bollen and 1210 01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:28,560 Speaker 1: Shane Steiken, you have to trust that part of your 1211 01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:33,440 Speaker 1: job was not only in who you selected on your roster, 1212 01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:36,120 Speaker 1: but how you have coached them. And I hate to 1213 01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:38,880 Speaker 1: use the term culture because it's so overused, but the 1214 01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,720 Speaker 1: culture that you've created. At some point you have to 1215 01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,760 Speaker 1: allow that to stand on its own legs, where you 1216 01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:47,920 Speaker 1: then let that take care of itself, and you trust 1217 01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:51,400 Speaker 1: that what you have laid out for them in terms 1218 01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:55,320 Speaker 1: of what the anticipation and expectation not only of what 1219 01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:57,320 Speaker 1: you want from players, but what you want from them 1220 01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:03,040 Speaker 1: as teammates, sorts itself out. So for this situation to 1221 01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:07,360 Speaker 1: answer your question, because from what we can see it's 1222 01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:10,480 Speaker 1: really the first of what was it's the first big 1223 01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:15,040 Speaker 1: red flag that's been waived. I think for the first situation, 1224 01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:20,040 Speaker 1: you let it play out organically and you trust that 1225 01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:22,880 Speaker 1: the players that the other players that you've selected. What 1226 01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:26,480 Speaker 1: did Chris Ballard want say that you could take players 1227 01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:28,640 Speaker 1: that were of question if you had a locker room 1228 01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:31,800 Speaker 1: that was of not because that would take care of itself. 1229 01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:35,800 Speaker 1: This is the t pat Knight, Pat Knight, what did 1230 01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:37,600 Speaker 1: he say? You could have one knucklehead, but if you 1231 01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:38,320 Speaker 1: have two, they breed. 1232 01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:41,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, of course that's replacing an expletive that we can't. 1233 01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,280 Speaker 1: Sell the radio. But that's what he said, right, I mean, 1234 01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:45,800 Speaker 1: patly get you can have one, but you get too 1235 01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:46,280 Speaker 1: they breed. 1236 01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:49,040 Speaker 2: I would like to just see them. Let him have 1237 01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:51,480 Speaker 2: the opportunity to prove that he's put it behind him. 1238 01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:52,360 Speaker 1: That's what I mean. 1239 01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:54,480 Speaker 2: Don't put him on a snap count, don't even like, 1240 01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:57,160 Speaker 2: don't try to. I guess you can't consider mentioning it. 1241 01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:58,800 Speaker 2: But I think it's a little bit of greecious because 1242 01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:01,280 Speaker 2: I just don't think you need to go to those 1243 01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:05,120 Speaker 2: extreme levels. But see how he responds this week. Don't 1244 01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:07,520 Speaker 2: back out there like you did last week without Alec Pearce. 1245 01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:09,560 Speaker 2: How does he respond? That is the big part of 1246 01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:13,840 Speaker 2: this because it will test the maturity, it'll test the professionalism. 1247 01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:15,680 Speaker 2: Of course, we can't see how he operated all week 1248 01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:18,320 Speaker 2: in practice, but we can see how he's operating out there, 1249 01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:21,520 Speaker 2: you know, on Sunday against the Raiders. Like, if it's 1250 01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:23,800 Speaker 2: me personally, I would like to see them go to 1251 01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:26,720 Speaker 2: Adie Mitchell right away, get him the ball, let him 1252 01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:29,080 Speaker 2: have that last week out of his mind, get him going, 1253 01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:31,160 Speaker 2: and the flow of the offense a little bit, you know, 1254 01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:33,920 Speaker 2: the bill is confidence in his swagger up a little bit. 1255 01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:37,800 Speaker 1: That show that I watched last night, the first two 1256 01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:41,080 Speaker 1: episodes of it, if you were not with us, at 1257 01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:44,120 Speaker 1: the top of the show, I mentioned that I was 1258 01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:46,360 Speaker 1: watching the Rams game against the Niners, and I was 1259 01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:49,600 Speaker 1: curious as to the way that Max Jones played against 1260 01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:52,920 Speaker 1: Los Angeles. Does that give us any glimpse as to 1261 01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:56,040 Speaker 1: who we do or don't have here in Indiapolis with 1262 01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:58,880 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. Because Jones threw two picks, although again he 1263 01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:00,560 Speaker 1: was very rushed. I mean, there were lot of factors 1264 01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:03,160 Speaker 1: that go into that. But as I'm sitting there thinking 1265 01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:06,520 Speaker 1: about that, and that game ended and I'm a moron. 1266 01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:08,760 Speaker 1: I didn't realize because I was watching the game obviously 1267 01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,120 Speaker 1: on Prime. I didn't realize that I have like that 1268 01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:13,600 Speaker 1: my cable system. And yes, I mean I do pay, 1269 01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:16,679 Speaker 1: you know. I mean it's I have like the full 1270 01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:20,360 Speaker 1: bundle or whatever now, and so it's got all these 1271 01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:22,360 Speaker 1: different apps and I didn't realize that I had all 1272 01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:24,360 Speaker 1: of them on there. And then I got to look 1273 01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:26,160 Speaker 1: at like okay, which one of these are monthly bills, 1274 01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:29,200 Speaker 1: which one are trials? Whatever else? But I went on Hulu, 1275 01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:32,280 Speaker 1: I'm like okay, and I clicked on it, and the 1276 01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:34,759 Speaker 1: first thing that popped up was, you know, knew Hulu 1277 01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:37,720 Speaker 1: original show. I'll give this a try. I don't even 1278 01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:39,240 Speaker 1: know anything about it. Boom, I hit on it. I 1279 01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:41,200 Speaker 1: should have known about it. Chad Powers is the name 1280 01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:44,280 Speaker 1: of the show. It was produced by the Manning brothers, 1281 01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:50,280 Speaker 1: and the show itself is about a guy that was 1282 01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:55,560 Speaker 1: a famed college quarterback at Oregon that falls into disgrace, 1283 01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:58,240 Speaker 1: his career comes to an end, and then he kind 1284 01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:00,240 Speaker 1: of pulls a Missus Doubt fire. It's based on a 1285 01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:02,040 Speaker 1: skit Eli Manning had done a couple of years ago. 1286 01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:05,760 Speaker 1: But he pulls a missus doubt fire to change his 1287 01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:08,240 Speaker 1: identity and go to a new school and try to 1288 01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:10,679 Speaker 1: relaunch his career. Okay, so it's kind of a comedy. 1289 01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:12,360 Speaker 1: It's not a bad show. It was. I enjoyed it. 1290 01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:15,720 Speaker 1: I watched two episodes. Whatever. But the interesting thing is 1291 01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:19,680 Speaker 1: no spoiler alert here, but the show begins with his 1292 01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:23,639 Speaker 1: disgrace comes in the National Championship game against Oregon where 1293 01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:25,599 Speaker 1: he is running for a touchdown and wait for it, 1294 01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,559 Speaker 1: he drops the ball at the one yard line and 1295 01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:31,400 Speaker 1: then boom. We've seen it not once but twice in 1296 01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:32,920 Speaker 1: Indianapolis in the last two years. 1297 01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,200 Speaker 2: You know, I wonder if they had to do this 1298 01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:39,720 Speaker 2: after Jake. You know, if you try going down on 1299 01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:43,080 Speaker 2: the Circle, you'll hear this or it is unbelievable. 1300 01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:46,360 Speaker 1: They haven't had steps out here, literally, and I've worked 1301 01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:47,240 Speaker 1: here for how long now? 1302 01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:50,360 Speaker 2: Or hell, you can go down market or Capital and 1303 01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:52,720 Speaker 2: you can go down in Illinois. Should that's all you here? 1304 01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:57,240 Speaker 1: I'm not kidding you. The steps on Monument Circle like 1305 01:09:57,320 --> 01:10:01,240 Speaker 1: we will. I don't know what the stadium will ultimately 1306 01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:04,639 Speaker 1: replace Lucas Oil Stadium, but Lucas Oil Stadium already now 1307 01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:06,799 Speaker 1: is like six years away from the age the RCAA 1308 01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:09,240 Speaker 1: doom was when we imploded it. I kid you not. 1309 01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:15,920 Speaker 1: We will have a new stadium proposal funding and one 1310 01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:19,000 Speaker 1: built that looks like Jerry World in this town and 1311 01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:21,840 Speaker 1: they still won't have the steps repaired. On Monument Circle, 1312 01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:26,680 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. There's like one guy out there having a 1313 01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:30,920 Speaker 1: couple of heaters standing around, debris everywhere. 1314 01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:32,639 Speaker 2: A couple lung darts, a couple lung darts. 1315 01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:36,280 Speaker 1: Kyle Netton written by the way, high school football, lots 1316 01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:38,160 Speaker 1: of guys getting to work under the lights on Friday 1317 01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:42,439 Speaker 1: night lights. We'll talk to him about it next. So 1318 01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:49,280 Speaker 1: that show I mentioned, Chad Powers, it's I mean, it's 1319 01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:51,479 Speaker 1: a fun show. It's not a serious a show to 1320 01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:53,559 Speaker 1: be taken seriously at all, and it's got obviously it's 1321 01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:55,439 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you got to suspend some reality 1322 01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:59,599 Speaker 1: when you're watching it. But essentially what happens is this 1323 01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:03,360 Speaker 1: guy who's this quarterback in a big game. His team lost, 1324 01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:06,320 Speaker 1: primarily simply because he was completely clueless as to how 1325 01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:08,200 Speaker 1: to act, especially once they lost the game. 1326 01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:10,880 Speaker 6: Right, speaking of lost and clueless, So we bring on 1327 01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:12,280 Speaker 6: Kyle Needdrip from The Ndstar. 1328 01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:15,679 Speaker 1: That's exactly right, because it's Friday night under the lights. 1329 01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:18,479 Speaker 1: Tonight big games, including one that he is going to 1330 01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:20,680 Speaker 1: be seeing a player that I did not realize. Right 1331 01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:23,360 Speaker 1: here in Indiana we have one of the top recruits 1332 01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:25,840 Speaker 1: in the country as an underclassman. I think that's one 1333 01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:27,360 Speaker 1: of them that Kyle, Needd and Rip will see tonight. 1334 01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:28,720 Speaker 1: But we'll get to that. Kyle, how are you. 1335 01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:31,439 Speaker 6: Hey doing well? Have you watched that show yet? 1336 01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:31,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1337 01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:32,439 Speaker 6: That's pretty good. 1338 01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:33,760 Speaker 1: So have you watched it? 1339 01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:37,280 Speaker 6: I only know of it. I have not watched an 1340 01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:37,920 Speaker 6: episode yet. 1341 01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:40,519 Speaker 1: There are two episodes. Here's what I like about it, okay, 1342 01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:42,800 Speaker 1: And for those that are unfamiliar, this is the show 1343 01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:45,400 Speaker 1: that was largely put together by Omahall Productions, which is 1344 01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:48,880 Speaker 1: Peyton and Eli Manning. It is taken off of the 1345 01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:51,639 Speaker 1: skit that many people probably saw where Eli Manning went 1346 01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:54,600 Speaker 1: into sguise and showed up and I can't remember what 1347 01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:56,880 Speaker 1: school it was and acted like he was walking on 1348 01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:00,720 Speaker 1: And it's the same premise. A guy you know is 1349 01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:03,439 Speaker 1: trying to resurrect his football career, so he goes in 1350 01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:07,000 Speaker 1: you know, missus doubt fire basically, so yeah, I mean 1351 01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:09,760 Speaker 1: it's hokey and cheesy, but it is fun. And each 1352 01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:12,439 Speaker 1: episode's like thirty five minutes, right, So yeah, I liked it, 1353 01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:14,200 Speaker 1: to be honest, It's only two episodes in, but I 1354 01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:15,519 Speaker 1: liked it nice. 1355 01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:18,200 Speaker 6: It feels like we miss comedies now, so I was 1356 01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:18,920 Speaker 6: gonna check it out. 1357 01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:21,479 Speaker 1: Have you seen did you the only others that I've 1358 01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:24,120 Speaker 1: seen of late? And I know that this is really 1359 01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:27,240 Speaker 1: you know, cliche here, but did you watch Ted Lasso? 1360 01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:31,240 Speaker 6: I don't, uh whatever app that whatever that's on and 1361 01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:33,720 Speaker 6: we don't have it, so I've only seen a friend's ass. 1362 01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:35,600 Speaker 6: I watched a couple episodes, but have not watched the 1363 01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:36,040 Speaker 6: whole thing. 1364 01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:40,040 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's awesome. Now another one, but if 1365 01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:42,840 Speaker 1: you didn't watch, I think the same because I'm with you, Kyle, 1366 01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:44,600 Speaker 1: like I never know what study you know, I'm always like, no, 1367 01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:46,840 Speaker 1: which one's that on? Because there's like twenty eight different apps? 1368 01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:50,840 Speaker 1: Right land Man, have you seen that with Billy Bob Thornton. 1369 01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:52,360 Speaker 1: It's not a comedy, but it has a lot of 1370 01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:54,120 Speaker 1: funny parts in it. Have you seen that? Yeah? 1371 01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:56,920 Speaker 6: I did start on that because that was I watched 1372 01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:01,920 Speaker 6: nineteen twenty three was that and enjoyed that. I think 1373 01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:04,240 Speaker 6: that's on the same streaming platform, right that's right. 1374 01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:06,320 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, those might be paramount. Yeah. And then 1375 01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:10,280 Speaker 1: the other one is Stick, which is kind of like 1376 01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:12,400 Speaker 1: ted Lasso but not near as good, but has Owen 1377 01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:14,839 Speaker 1: Wilson and it's about golf and it takes place in Indiana. 1378 01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:15,360 Speaker 1: It's pretty good. 1379 01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:17,679 Speaker 6: Okay, I heard about that one too. 1380 01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:20,360 Speaker 1: It's good. All right. So let's get to the games 1381 01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:22,439 Speaker 1: that you'll be streaming if you will, not really you'll 1382 01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:24,880 Speaker 1: be watching them in person tonight. You are going to 1383 01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:27,559 Speaker 1: be at Warren Central and Lawrence North. Correct. 1384 01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:33,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, you mentioned Manchune Sales. The five star receiver that 1385 01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:36,080 Speaker 6: Lawrence North has and pretty cool honor for him. I 1386 01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:39,080 Speaker 6: don't remember how many you know, five stars we've had. 1387 01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:42,040 Speaker 6: I mean, there haven't been a ton, I would say 1388 01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:45,800 Speaker 6: to reach that stature. You know, it's basically talking about 1389 01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:48,519 Speaker 6: top twenty five in his class in the country, and 1390 01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:51,519 Speaker 6: he's actually twenty four to seven Sports, which does a 1391 01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:55,240 Speaker 6: good job covering, you know, recruiting and you know, in 1392 01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:58,320 Speaker 6: my opinion, doing rankings and things like that. They have 1393 01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:01,400 Speaker 6: him number six this week that came out, so you know, 1394 01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:03,439 Speaker 6: that's a that's a pretty cool honor for him. 1395 01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:06,920 Speaker 1: I mean, he is what year he's only a junior. 1396 01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:10,599 Speaker 6: So this is the twenty twenty seven class, so he's Kyle. 1397 01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:13,640 Speaker 1: What's interesting to me about this is and you tell me, 1398 01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:17,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you cover high school sports. You know, typically 1399 01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:21,439 Speaker 1: if a player is a top ten national level player 1400 01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:25,240 Speaker 1: in basketball, we know of them as a household name 1401 01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:27,840 Speaker 1: by the time they're like a sophomore. But yet it 1402 01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:32,160 Speaker 1: seems like we see more of from the football standpoint, 1403 01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:36,920 Speaker 1: players not getting on that radar until the latter part 1404 01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:38,800 Speaker 1: of their high school career. Am I off base in 1405 01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:40,519 Speaker 1: saying that, No. 1406 01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:43,679 Speaker 6: That's totally correct. I would say, And even sales last 1407 01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:46,080 Speaker 6: year was really good. You know, Lawrence North was, you know, 1408 01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:47,680 Speaker 6: and if they would have made it the state, I 1409 01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:50,000 Speaker 6: think he would probably be a name that's even more 1410 01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:52,840 Speaker 6: out there. But they, you know, Brownsburg flipped him by 1411 01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:55,000 Speaker 6: one point in the regional, so they he didn't quite 1412 01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:57,040 Speaker 6: get on that stage. But he had a great year 1413 01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:59,639 Speaker 6: last year. But even to your point, as a freshman, 1414 01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:02,400 Speaker 6: you know, he was not even on varsity. So you know, 1415 01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:05,599 Speaker 6: when you're talking about basketball, normally those top players are 1416 01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:09,040 Speaker 6: already you know, they come into freshman year and they're 1417 01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:11,479 Speaker 6: you know, even if they're not a star player, they're 1418 01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:14,160 Speaker 6: already like, oh, that kid's gonna be a star. 1419 01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:14,439 Speaker 5: You know. 1420 01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:17,839 Speaker 6: Whereas football, you know, you oftentimes don't put a fourteen 1421 01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:20,120 Speaker 6: fifteen year old kid out there against eighteen year olds 1422 01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:21,840 Speaker 6: just because they're not you know, your body's just not 1423 01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:25,519 Speaker 6: ready for that yet. So it's pretty rare even for 1424 01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:28,559 Speaker 6: him like last year. You know, he's so much better 1425 01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:30,559 Speaker 6: this year than last year. I would say, you know, 1426 01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:32,840 Speaker 6: and just I'm looking forward to seeing him play tonight. 1427 01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:35,479 Speaker 6: But he you know, you could see it last year 1428 01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:38,080 Speaker 6: like he was the you know, he he's a very 1429 01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:41,559 Speaker 6: physical uh specimen, you know, six foot four or five, 1430 01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:43,840 Speaker 6: you know, and then you know, so he looks the 1431 01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:45,640 Speaker 6: part walking in and then you watch him play and 1432 01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:48,200 Speaker 6: it's like, okay, but he wasn't you know, Davion Chandler 1433 01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:50,200 Speaker 6: was their top receiver last year and he went to 1434 01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:53,000 Speaker 6: AU uh so even last year he wasn't their top 1435 01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:55,439 Speaker 6: you know, top at that position. Even so you know, 1436 01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:58,160 Speaker 6: to your point, that's I think that's absolutely correct. There 1437 01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:00,720 Speaker 6: are there are kids who come in and you know, 1438 01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:03,479 Speaker 6: play more as a freshman, but I would say more 1439 01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:06,120 Speaker 6: of the time that's at the probably at the smaller 1440 01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:09,960 Speaker 6: class levels or you know, depending on positions. Sometimes sometimes 1441 01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:12,160 Speaker 6: you see a freshman quarterback come in, but you know, 1442 01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:14,840 Speaker 6: some of the more physical positions, it takes, you know, 1443 01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:16,719 Speaker 6: it takes a couple of years for most most kids. 1444 01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:16,920 Speaker 3: Man. 1445 01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:19,479 Speaker 1: I mean I'm looking at it right here, Okay, six 1446 01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:22,360 Speaker 1: five five, So obviously there's a little bit of bulk 1447 01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:24,479 Speaker 1: that needs to go on there, right But you know, 1448 01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:27,000 Speaker 1: and already, I mean just the list of schools, I 1449 01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:29,320 Speaker 1: mean it's basically everyone. Clearly he's going to have his 1450 01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:32,160 Speaker 1: choice of where he wants to go. But to go 1451 01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:36,080 Speaker 1: back further on this, are we talking about and it's 1452 01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:37,800 Speaker 1: pronounced is it Monshun? Is that how you say his 1453 01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:42,840 Speaker 1: first name? Yeah? Monjune sales at Lawrence North. Are we 1454 01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:45,680 Speaker 1: are we talking about somebody that is now on the 1455 01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:50,720 Speaker 1: radar because of just the intangibles quote unquote, or is 1456 01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:53,080 Speaker 1: their body of work on the field where you go, Yeah, 1457 01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:56,439 Speaker 1: I mean, this guy's been a different level already or 1458 01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:58,439 Speaker 1: is it more so what it looks like he's going 1459 01:16:58,439 --> 01:16:59,040 Speaker 1: to grow into. 1460 01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:02,479 Speaker 6: I think it's a combination. I mean, he is producing, 1461 01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:04,240 Speaker 6: you know, and he did, like I said, last year, 1462 01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:07,040 Speaker 6: he had like probably six hundred yards close to that 1463 01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:09,479 Speaker 6: receiving and also what I think helps him. Jake too, 1464 01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:12,240 Speaker 6: is he ran track this past spring and his numbers 1465 01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:13,559 Speaker 6: are really good. You know, I don't have him out 1466 01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:15,960 Speaker 6: the top of my head, but he he performed really 1467 01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:17,640 Speaker 6: well in track, so you could kind of see the 1468 01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:21,800 Speaker 6: track speed translate to football and when you're doing that 1469 01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:24,120 Speaker 6: at the height he's at, I mean, that's that's he's 1470 01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:26,360 Speaker 6: not not like he's a five to ten you know, 1471 01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:29,360 Speaker 6: speed burner. He's a six four speed burner, six five speeds. 1472 01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:32,800 Speaker 6: So so that I think also is a good thing 1473 01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:34,880 Speaker 6: for him. And Pat Mallory, the coach at l N. 1474 01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:37,880 Speaker 6: You know, he he coaches tracks, so he gets a 1475 01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:40,240 Speaker 6: lot of his football guys to do track. And what 1476 01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:44,000 Speaker 6: a great you know thing that is because you know 1477 01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:46,680 Speaker 6: those track you know, track numbers translate, you know, and 1478 01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:49,880 Speaker 6: then those track workouts translate. So I think that helped 1479 01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:52,240 Speaker 6: him too. And he just looks like a you know, 1480 01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:54,120 Speaker 6: I haven't said this will be the first time tonight 1481 01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:56,440 Speaker 6: I've seen him in person this year other than practices, 1482 01:17:56,520 --> 01:18:00,639 Speaker 6: but uh, you know everything, you know, he just physical 1483 01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:04,000 Speaker 6: more just I wouldn't even say more physical, just more built, 1484 01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:07,639 Speaker 6: you know, more just comfortable I think with with who 1485 01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:10,080 Speaker 6: he is and as a player that's you know, very 1486 01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:12,639 Speaker 6: much obvious. And they have a new quarterback this year too, 1487 01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:16,120 Speaker 6: so that's another transition that they have quarterback last year 1488 01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:17,760 Speaker 6: graduated and they have a really good one this year, 1489 01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:21,960 Speaker 6: Darien Prather. But but yeah, I mean, he he, you know, 1490 01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:24,920 Speaker 6: And I always kind of, you always kind of worry 1491 01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:27,839 Speaker 6: about kids getting ranked too highly because then it's almost 1492 01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:29,920 Speaker 6: like where do you have to go from there? You know, 1493 01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:32,280 Speaker 6: it kind of becomes a thing where it's like, you know, 1494 01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:34,680 Speaker 6: he didn't rank himself. There other kids I've covered, like, 1495 01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:36,799 Speaker 6: you know, they didn't ask to be ranked that highly, 1496 01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:39,160 Speaker 6: so you know, but then the criticism comes to when 1497 01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:41,439 Speaker 6: you don't put up two hundred yards a game or 1498 01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:44,200 Speaker 6: score thirty points a game, you know. And in gosh, 1499 01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:47,040 Speaker 6: I heard so many adults ragging on high school kids 1500 01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:49,439 Speaker 6: for for that sort of thing. I can't count how 1501 01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:53,360 Speaker 6: many times. But but yeah, I mean, I I definitely 1502 01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:55,200 Speaker 6: think he's gonna be able to choose wherever he wants 1503 01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:58,360 Speaker 6: to go, and it's gonna be you know, it's going 1504 01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:00,680 Speaker 6: to be a blue blood school or whatever you want 1505 01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:03,080 Speaker 6: to categorize that as he's going to have his choice 1506 01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:04,880 Speaker 6: of whatever he wants to go to. 1507 01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:07,960 Speaker 1: Kyle, when you look at this week in Kyle and Edrip, 1508 01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:11,280 Speaker 1: Indianapolis Star high school football writer is our guest this 1509 01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:13,839 Speaker 1: weekend Lucas Oil Stadium, it's the Colts and the Raiders. 1510 01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:16,519 Speaker 1: Raiders are a team that you know, there was some 1511 01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:18,960 Speaker 1: question about him coming into the year, but we talked 1512 01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:21,360 Speaker 1: to JT. The Brick yesterday who does Raiders radio, and 1513 01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:24,160 Speaker 1: he was saying he's like, look, the time is now. 1514 01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:27,120 Speaker 1: If they don't get a win now, then it's it 1515 01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:30,280 Speaker 1: is a boulder in the stream game perhaps for Las Vegas. 1516 01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:32,759 Speaker 1: I know we're a little later in the high school slate, 1517 01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:35,120 Speaker 1: but is there a team that you look at and 1518 01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:38,720 Speaker 1: you say, expected a little bit more and this is 1519 01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:40,360 Speaker 1: the weekend where it's got to get going in the 1520 01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:42,360 Speaker 1: right direction for them. 1521 01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:43,120 Speaker 7: Yeah. 1522 01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:45,240 Speaker 6: I mean I would say JT the Brick too, what man, 1523 01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:48,040 Speaker 6: I remember listening to him back in the day. I 1524 01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:50,120 Speaker 6: didn't know he was doing Raiders. He probably has done 1525 01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:50,760 Speaker 6: that for a long time. 1526 01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:52,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's out. He's been in Vegas he said for 1527 01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:53,960 Speaker 1: twenty four years or something like that. 1528 01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:56,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, I remember listening to him on I think 1529 01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:59,799 Speaker 6: he's doing overnights. Maybe when I was delivering Domino's pizzas 1530 01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:00,519 Speaker 6: back in the day. 1531 01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:03,559 Speaker 1: But regardless, I would Yeah, I mean deliver a lot 1532 01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:07,800 Speaker 1: of Dominoes in the late night. Yes, what was your 1533 01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:10,200 Speaker 1: what was your shift? Let's hold the phone here on 1534 01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:12,519 Speaker 1: the on the football question. What was your shift while 1535 01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:14,400 Speaker 1: you were delivering Domino's pizza? Count? 1536 01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:14,519 Speaker 3: Then? 1537 01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:18,599 Speaker 6: Oh, what did I walk into here? I'm uh the trap? 1538 01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:19,880 Speaker 5: Uh? 1539 01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:22,720 Speaker 6: I think we closed on weeknights. We were at two 1540 01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:24,760 Speaker 6: a m. So I worked a lot of the back 1541 01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:26,280 Speaker 6: in the day. They would give you a pager though, 1542 01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:27,960 Speaker 6: if they let you off that you were. 1543 01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:29,960 Speaker 1: Like a mix a lot run around. 1544 01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:33,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, right, they would give you, give you a pager. 1545 01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:36,000 Speaker 1: And the doctors right. 1546 01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:38,120 Speaker 6: For for a rush, they would bring you back in. 1547 01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:40,400 Speaker 6: Uh but uh, yeah, I think it was two o'clock 1548 01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:40,880 Speaker 6: or so. 1549 01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:42,640 Speaker 1: You ever pick up any chicks that thought you were 1550 01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:44,479 Speaker 1: a surgeon because you'll run around with your beeper. 1551 01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:47,679 Speaker 6: I don't think so. No, I don't remember that happening. 1552 01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:50,439 Speaker 1: What in what community were you delivering Domino's pizzas at 1553 01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:51,040 Speaker 1: two in the morning? 1554 01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:55,360 Speaker 6: This was in uh, Lincoln, Nebraska when I was in well, 1555 01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:57,160 Speaker 6: I guess it was college and then I come home 1556 01:20:57,320 --> 01:20:58,760 Speaker 6: in high school and then I come home for. 1557 01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:01,080 Speaker 1: College and I do that too. What was the biggest 1558 01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:04,240 Speaker 1: tip you ever got or the craziest situation you ever 1559 01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:05,200 Speaker 1: drove yourself into? 1560 01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:09,920 Speaker 6: Oh boy, there's there's things I can't say over the 1561 01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:13,080 Speaker 6: radio that were kind of strange, but I did. I 1562 01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:18,400 Speaker 6: was offered drugs one time, very late at night. I'll 1563 01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:19,880 Speaker 6: say that, what'd you say? 1564 01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:20,680 Speaker 1: Did you say yes? Or no? 1565 01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:21,400 Speaker 8: I'm just kidding. 1566 01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:23,479 Speaker 1: No, have you ever hear any of you ever hear 1567 01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:25,960 Speaker 1: any soft music? And then Nina Hartley suddenly showed up. 1568 01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:30,479 Speaker 6: No, no, no stories to that effect. But yeah, there 1569 01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:33,760 Speaker 6: was there's it's uh, you know, it was an interesting job. 1570 01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:35,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I would imagine the fair share of Jeff's 1571 01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:38,439 Speaker 1: Baccoli's ordering pizza for you, right, just you know, eating 1572 01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:40,599 Speaker 1: learning about Cuba and eating some food. Right. 1573 01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:43,439 Speaker 6: Well, you a lot of those late calls. You would 1574 01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:45,519 Speaker 6: go to the house. Then this is before even map 1575 01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:47,600 Speaker 6: quest or Internet, but you go to the house and 1576 01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:50,600 Speaker 6: they would be passed out, you know, they wouldn't even 1577 01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:52,880 Speaker 6: so then you then you'd get a Then you'd bring 1578 01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:54,760 Speaker 6: home the pizza and our manager and say, I just 1579 01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:56,600 Speaker 6: take it, take it home, you know. 1580 01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:01,240 Speaker 1: Ari Liondyke won the nineteen ninety car number thirty sponsored 1581 01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:03,880 Speaker 1: by Domino's Pizzas. Back then their ad campaign was thirty 1582 01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:07,360 Speaker 1: minutes or less er It's free. Yeah yep, so and 1583 01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:10,080 Speaker 1: then they actually had some legal things with that and 1584 01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:12,519 Speaker 1: so therefore, but listen, nothing wrong with that. But now, 1585 01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:14,799 Speaker 1: of course it would be Chicago's Pizza would be the preference. 1586 01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:17,760 Speaker 1: But okay, so give me the team or the school 1587 01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:20,320 Speaker 1: that just needs to get things turned around. 1588 01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:23,680 Speaker 6: Well, the game I was thinking of, and it's not 1589 01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:27,000 Speaker 6: necessarily get turned around, but I would say the game 1590 01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:29,640 Speaker 6: that probably falls into that category would be Avon and 1591 01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:32,519 Speaker 6: Westfield because you know, Avon is now, you know, they've 1592 01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:35,400 Speaker 6: lost three out of four. I think they're I think 1593 01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:38,559 Speaker 6: they're a really good team. Westfield is a team that 1594 01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:42,719 Speaker 6: obviously they've been really good for years these past few years, 1595 01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:46,200 Speaker 6: Avon hasn't been able to knock them off here recently. 1596 01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:48,200 Speaker 6: But I think this is going to be a great matchup, 1597 01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:50,880 Speaker 6: and you don't want to go into you know, the 1598 01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:53,960 Speaker 6: end of the season here losing too many, you know, 1599 01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:56,840 Speaker 6: in a row or a chunk of games. So that's 1600 01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:59,160 Speaker 6: I think a game to watch that, you know, see 1601 01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:02,639 Speaker 6: if Avon can be Westfield at home tonight. Westfield played 1602 01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:05,679 Speaker 6: really well last week against Brownsburg, so you know, I'd 1603 01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:08,600 Speaker 6: say that that game probably falls into that category. 1604 01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:09,040 Speaker 1: You know. 1605 01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:12,120 Speaker 6: Also of interest, I think too, is just the Center 1606 01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:15,200 Speaker 6: Grove Cathedral game. You know, Center Grove is a six 1607 01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:18,400 Speaker 6: to oh team, but you know haven't played maybe you know, 1608 01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:21,120 Speaker 6: they've played some teams that are not having great seasons, 1609 01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:23,240 Speaker 6: I would say, and then you know, they played out 1610 01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:25,759 Speaker 6: of state team, so we haven't really got a gauge 1611 01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:27,880 Speaker 6: on that. That's kind of a gauge game, I would say, 1612 01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:30,040 Speaker 6: because the next two weeks they played Cathedral and Lawrence 1613 01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:33,519 Speaker 6: North back to back weeks, and you know, seems like 1614 01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:35,799 Speaker 6: this time of yearly Center Grove is playing its best 1615 01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:39,280 Speaker 6: football going into the tournament. And you know, I think 1616 01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:42,000 Speaker 6: that's really one of note to uh that'll give us 1617 01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:44,439 Speaker 6: maybe a good representation on where Center Grove's at right 1618 01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:45,679 Speaker 6: now as a program. 1619 01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:48,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, he can coach man. I mean, that's just that's 1620 01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:51,040 Speaker 1: one of those programs that you if they're not strong 1621 01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:53,439 Speaker 1: by the end of the year. You know, some coaches, Kyle, 1622 01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:56,960 Speaker 1: would you agree, just have this ability that their team 1623 01:23:57,200 --> 01:23:59,840 Speaker 1: Cathedrals in this category as well, because you look at 1624 01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:02,040 Speaker 1: their schedule a lot of times and you feel like 1625 01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:04,920 Speaker 1: they're having a down year and then you realize they're 1626 01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:07,880 Speaker 1: just loading it up where they get incrementally better each 1627 01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:09,400 Speaker 1: and every week and by the end of the year 1628 01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:11,280 Speaker 1: then it all comes together for them. 1629 01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:11,880 Speaker 9: Yeah. 1630 01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:13,920 Speaker 6: I mean, I think the good coaches or you know, 1631 01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:16,320 Speaker 6: the great coaches, you know, by the end of the season, 1632 01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:19,640 Speaker 6: they're kind of molded into the style that you know, 1633 01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:22,400 Speaker 6: you expect out of those programs, and you know it's 1634 01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:25,200 Speaker 6: it's based on personnel and adjusting to what you have 1635 01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:27,880 Speaker 6: as a team. But I always, you know, I always 1636 01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:30,439 Speaker 6: sense that with Center Grove as they and Cathened Early 1637 01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:32,400 Speaker 6: you mentioned them too, but you know they kind of 1638 01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:36,160 Speaker 6: play to their to the way that the you know, 1639 01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:38,200 Speaker 6: the coaches like to play, and I think, you know, 1640 01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:40,040 Speaker 6: Center Grove has changed with that. So I'm over the 1641 01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:42,280 Speaker 6: years where they think good coaches like Eric Moore do 1642 01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:44,479 Speaker 6: is you know, they're more of a passing team than 1643 01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:47,160 Speaker 6: they used to be. But you know, their best teams 1644 01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:49,280 Speaker 6: they always they're always able to run the ball, they 1645 01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:52,320 Speaker 6: always have, you know, really good defenses, and you know, 1646 01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:54,360 Speaker 6: I think we'll find out these next couple of weeks 1647 01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:56,880 Speaker 6: just maybe where they are exactly. But you know, they're 1648 01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:58,559 Speaker 6: always like when I see them early in the year, 1649 01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:01,599 Speaker 6: I always kind of think, well, that's I'll be part 1650 01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:03,360 Speaker 6: of the team we're going to see later. But but 1651 01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:05,920 Speaker 6: they're going to be dramatically better, and injuries will play. 1652 01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:08,360 Speaker 6: You know, they've they've had a couple tough injuries too, 1653 01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:11,160 Speaker 6: so that always plays a factor. But uh, but yeah, 1654 01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:14,400 Speaker 6: they're they're I always think when they're in October November, 1655 01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:16,839 Speaker 6: they're they're a different team than they were in August. 1656 01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:20,559 Speaker 1: By the way, Tenley and Crystal House that matchup tonight, 1657 01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:22,479 Speaker 1: because we always try to focus on what the kids 1658 01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:24,160 Speaker 1: are doing at some of the schools that you don't 1659 01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:25,840 Speaker 1: hear as much about. Best to look to both those 1660 01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:30,479 Speaker 1: schools as well, Addicts and short Ridge tonight, two schools 1661 01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:32,920 Speaker 1: that attics short Ridge. I mean, that's I guess you 1662 01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:36,559 Speaker 1: would say. Obviously from a traditional standpoint, Kyle, we're talking 1663 01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:38,759 Speaker 1: an old school rivalry game there, right. 1664 01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:42,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, Man, you think about the basketball games, you'll go 1665 01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:44,120 Speaker 6: back in the history of the I love you know, 1666 01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:46,679 Speaker 6: I've talked to some of those players from the era 1667 01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:49,759 Speaker 6: of the fifties and the sixties also football were rivals. 1668 01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:52,880 Speaker 6: But you know, man, there weren't any bigger games. You know, 1669 01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:56,120 Speaker 6: it's fun to go back on the the archives sometimes 1670 01:25:56,160 --> 01:25:58,360 Speaker 6: and like you know, Addicts and short Ridge, we're playing 1671 01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:01,240 Speaker 6: these games in front of you fourteen thousand people at 1672 01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:03,559 Speaker 6: the hinkle Fieldhouse back in the day. So you know, 1673 01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:07,040 Speaker 6: how cool to relive some of that stuff and talk 1674 01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:08,519 Speaker 6: to some of those players over the years. 1675 01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:10,680 Speaker 1: But by the way, lastly, so if you'd show up 1676 01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:14,080 Speaker 1: with the pizza and the guy had passed out, did 1677 01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:15,880 Speaker 1: you I mean, did you try to wake them up? 1678 01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:17,680 Speaker 1: Did you just you rang the doorbell three times and 1679 01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:20,040 Speaker 1: then weren't there and you just made your own conclusion? 1680 01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:24,280 Speaker 1: Did they maybe leave? I mean, did you administer CPR? 1681 01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:25,960 Speaker 1: I mean, how did this work? 1682 01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:27,439 Speaker 8: You would call? 1683 01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:29,519 Speaker 6: They used to have a number, you know, they put 1684 01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:32,200 Speaker 6: the home phone number on the on the side of 1685 01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:34,519 Speaker 6: the box or whatever. Or you'd get in and so 1686 01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:37,519 Speaker 6: you'd have to call. Uh, you'd have the the uh. 1687 01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:41,080 Speaker 6: Uh you go back to the store, you know, do 1688 01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:42,640 Speaker 6: you take it back and call them? Because back then 1689 01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:45,040 Speaker 6: we didn't have cell phones. So uh, but you'd go 1690 01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:47,040 Speaker 6: back to the store and call them back. And if 1691 01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:49,160 Speaker 6: they didn't answer, but yeah, just ring the doorbell, you know, 1692 01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:49,920 Speaker 6: several times. 1693 01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:53,040 Speaker 1: And did you ever get this, because I'm not saying 1694 01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:55,080 Speaker 1: that I ever did this, but my understanding as kids 1695 01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:57,559 Speaker 1: used to did you ever get it? Where clearly what 1696 01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:00,320 Speaker 1: it was was it was like a prank of somebody's 1697 01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:02,599 Speaker 1: sending a pizza to someone's house that that didn't actually 1698 01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:03,000 Speaker 1: order it. 1699 01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:06,880 Speaker 6: I had that a couple of times. Yeah, you know, 1700 01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:10,120 Speaker 6: and yeah, that was that was something that happened occasionally. 1701 01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:11,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. 1702 01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:13,880 Speaker 6: It was once you got past midnight, there was about 1703 01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:16,160 Speaker 6: anything could happen. You never knew what was about to happen. 1704 01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:18,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like Uncle Jake's taxi Eddie that I run 1705 01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:20,920 Speaker 1: on New Year's Eve, Right, no puking in the jeep. Right, 1706 01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:24,120 Speaker 1: although the jeep puked on itself and they're putting a 1707 01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:26,120 Speaker 1: new engine in it, and I got another week before 1708 01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:28,040 Speaker 1: I get it back. That's a whole different talk show, Kyle, 1709 01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:29,439 Speaker 1: all Right, we didn't know that we were going to 1710 01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:31,639 Speaker 1: go down all of those different segues. But I appreciate 1711 01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:33,240 Speaker 1: you going along for the Vagabond journey. 1712 01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:35,679 Speaker 6: Nonetheless, absolutely I enjoyed it. 1713 01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:38,320 Speaker 1: Kyle nett Rip joining us Indy Star appreciated Kyle, will 1714 01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:41,799 Speaker 1: look forward to the story on again Warren and Lawrence 1715 01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:45,040 Speaker 1: North and featuring a junior that is a top ten 1716 01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:48,040 Speaker 1: player now in the country. Will take a quick recess. 1717 01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:50,680 Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen, you heard us mention a cathedral. He a 1718 01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:52,519 Speaker 1: proud member of that school. He's going to join us 1719 01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:57,040 Speaker 1: coming up about fifteen minutes from now. So, Eddie, you 1720 01:27:57,080 --> 01:28:00,000 Speaker 1: are familiar with the wide receiver from Lawrence North right 1721 01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:01,160 Speaker 1: o mon Shun Sales. 1722 01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:01,479 Speaker 6: Yes. 1723 01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:03,519 Speaker 2: I watched him in a game last year as a sophomore, 1724 01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:05,320 Speaker 2: and I think he had like three catches one hundred 1725 01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:07,600 Speaker 2: and you know, seventy yards and three touchdowns. It was 1726 01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:10,479 Speaker 2: just like watching Randy Moss, like taller than everyone on 1727 01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:13,280 Speaker 2: the field, faster and everyone on the field. That quarterback 1728 01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:15,960 Speaker 2: would just drop back on those three passes and we're like, 1729 01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:19,000 Speaker 2: all right, you want to go route everyone else. Receiver wise, 1730 01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:21,320 Speaker 2: you're on the right side, he's on his own on 1731 01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:23,120 Speaker 2: the left side, he's gonna run to go right. I'm 1732 01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:24,479 Speaker 2: gonna toss up to him. He's going to jump up, 1733 01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:26,240 Speaker 2: catch it and then go into the chores. 1734 01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:26,360 Speaker 7: Hell. 1735 01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:27,240 Speaker 2: He did three dimes. 1736 01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:30,120 Speaker 1: It reminds me of when I was working at Channel six. 1737 01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:35,880 Speaker 1: Joe Roticap, whose son Nick right now Joe Rodicap and 1738 01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:39,080 Speaker 1: Gray Strahan married and their son, Nicholas Rodaicap is down 1739 01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:41,680 Speaker 1: at IU is going to be a really good sportscaster. 1740 01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:45,720 Speaker 1: But Joe Roadecap was also a videographer. And one day 1741 01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:51,519 Speaker 1: I was working and we would send as a sports 1742 01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:54,280 Speaker 1: staff or as a station, we would send photographers to 1743 01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:56,800 Speaker 1: like Ball State, Indiana State, you know, to Paul whatever, 1744 01:28:56,920 --> 01:28:59,160 Speaker 1: just to get a couple of highlights. And I remember 1745 01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:01,200 Speaker 1: road Acap had a Ball State game and I'm like, 1746 01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:04,519 Speaker 1: what I'm putting together the six o'clock newscast on a Saturday, 1747 01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:07,080 Speaker 1: a sportscast, and I'm like, where is Roadicap, Like, I've 1748 01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:08,880 Speaker 1: got to I gotta cut these highlights. I mean that 1749 01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:12,240 Speaker 1: the game was at noon, and he's still not back yet. 1750 01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:15,360 Speaker 1: It's you know, four o'clock whatever. Usually you go up 1751 01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:16,840 Speaker 1: there and get a couple lights and you come back 1752 01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:20,799 Speaker 1: and road Acap comes back and sets these two tapes 1753 01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:23,479 Speaker 1: on my desk and he goes, look, man, this dude 1754 01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:26,439 Speaker 1: from Marshall had like six touchdowns. I wasn't gonna leave 1755 01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:28,519 Speaker 1: the game because it was the most unbelievable performance I've 1756 01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:31,080 Speaker 1: ever seen, and I don't remember it was Randy Moss. 1757 01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:34,360 Speaker 1: And if you look up Randy Moss's stats against Ball 1758 01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:38,479 Speaker 1: State in Muncie, I mean it was in I We 1759 01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:41,280 Speaker 1: knew of Randy Moss because he had been obviously at 1760 01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:43,960 Speaker 1: Florida State and Notre Dame, and there was a lot 1761 01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:48,320 Speaker 1: of controversy about him. But I mean, it took two 1762 01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:50,000 Speaker 1: seconds when you put the tape in, You're like, oh 1763 01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:55,479 Speaker 1: my gosh. The natural athleticism, all of it, right, runs 1764 01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:58,599 Speaker 1: like a deer, I mean, and you were saying, that's 1765 01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:03,240 Speaker 1: I realize it's ridiculous to compare anybody to arguably the 1766 01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:06,840 Speaker 1: greatest wide receiver of all time, but just in terms 1767 01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:12,840 Speaker 1: of natural abilities and body type similar, right. 1768 01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:14,920 Speaker 2: It's literally that's what he reminded me of, just because 1769 01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:18,920 Speaker 2: he was bigger than everybody, faster than everybody. It's just unfair. 1770 01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:24,360 Speaker 1: Sometimes life is just unfair. All right, we come back, 1771 01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:26,040 Speaker 1: Kevin Bow. We're gonna join us here him of course 1772 01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:28,960 Speaker 1: on the Morning Show with James Boyd as well as 1773 01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:31,479 Speaker 1: Jeff Rickard the Fan Morning Show, and a lot to 1774 01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:34,519 Speaker 1: get to with the Colts because we now know some 1775 01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:37,040 Speaker 1: of the players that are out and what impact will 1776 01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:39,640 Speaker 1: that mean and who are they? We'll discuss that with 1777 01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:45,280 Speaker 1: Kevin next two o'clock on a Friday in Indianapolis. For 1778 01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:47,400 Speaker 1: that matter, it's two o'clock on a Friday everywhere in 1779 01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:49,559 Speaker 1: the Eastern time zone. My name is Jake Query. Eddie 1780 01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:52,000 Speaker 1: Garrison the other voice you hear on this program today. 1781 01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:54,799 Speaker 1: The name of the show is Querry and Company, of course, 1782 01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:57,280 Speaker 1: and last night, Eddie, I don't know if we have 1783 01:30:57,320 --> 01:30:59,760 Speaker 1: somebody in the IT field, but I made a high 1784 01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:03,280 Speaker 1: lab night IT member of the company. Oh, Eddie is 1785 01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:05,719 Speaker 1: the president of the company. I forget what my exact 1786 01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:06,519 Speaker 1: title is. 1787 01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:08,120 Speaker 2: On the chairman of the board. 1788 01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:11,000 Speaker 1: And that board does include Kevin Bowen, who is a 1789 01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:15,320 Speaker 1: board member and a recurring guest on the program. Joins 1790 01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:19,000 Speaker 1: us now. He brings the professionalism to the company. Kevin, 1791 01:31:19,040 --> 01:31:20,719 Speaker 1: you here in the morning with James Boyd and jeff 1792 01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:23,959 Speaker 1: Rickord and the Fan Morning Show, and he is essentially 1793 01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:27,800 Speaker 1: the primary colts beat writer for the station. All of 1794 01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:29,439 Speaker 1: his work you can see at one oh seven five 1795 01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:32,599 Speaker 1: the fan dot com. Kevin, Let's begin with this, and 1796 01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:36,080 Speaker 1: that is we found out just about a little over 1797 01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:38,479 Speaker 1: an hour ago some of those that are out for 1798 01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:43,200 Speaker 1: this game against the Raiders and nothing, I guess overly shocking, 1799 01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:45,879 Speaker 1: but at the same time going to be a challenge. 1800 01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:47,599 Speaker 1: Let us know who is not going to be suiting 1801 01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:48,920 Speaker 1: up for Indianapolis. 1802 01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:51,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, I would say the one shocking night on miss 1803 01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:56,000 Speaker 7: Alex Pierce, you know as we sat here, Yeah, I 1804 01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:58,080 Speaker 7: guess that was even this morning. And you know, Pierce 1805 01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:00,640 Speaker 7: had two full days of work. So anytime you're in 1806 01:32:00,640 --> 01:32:03,000 Speaker 7: concussion protocol, you have two full days of work, that's 1807 01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:04,000 Speaker 7: usually pretty good for you. 1808 01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:06,560 Speaker 1: Wasn't feeling good this morning. 1809 01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:09,240 Speaker 7: Though, and so he is out set back in the 1810 01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:12,919 Speaker 7: concussion protocol did not pass. So that's not good obviously 1811 01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:15,439 Speaker 7: for Sunday. It's also not good for you know, Pierce 1812 01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:18,000 Speaker 7: sur pribably state in the obvious that you know, we're 1813 01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:20,880 Speaker 7: talking about a guy that unfortunately has had I think 1814 01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:23,320 Speaker 7: it's now three concussions. Is the first one reason this 1815 01:32:23,439 --> 01:32:29,679 Speaker 7: multiple weeks. So he is out. No Kennymore, No Tyler Goodson, 1816 01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:34,200 Speaker 7: no Daniel Scott, those are the four so backup running, back, 1817 01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:37,559 Speaker 7: backup safety and then again Pierson Moore both out for 1818 01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:38,559 Speaker 7: a second straight weeks. 1819 01:32:39,840 --> 01:32:43,840 Speaker 1: The more situation, I mean, obviously we knew going in 1820 01:32:44,360 --> 01:32:46,240 Speaker 1: Kevin that was going to be unlikely. You know, Kenny 1821 01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:48,960 Speaker 1: Moore would play. But when you look at you know, 1822 01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:54,400 Speaker 1: xavieron Howard and that situation and what happens with them 1823 01:32:54,439 --> 01:32:57,679 Speaker 1: at defensive backfield. Let's begin there, because we talked about 1824 01:32:57,720 --> 01:32:59,720 Speaker 1: it in the middle of the week that you were 1825 01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:02,160 Speaker 1: maybe going to have some moving around or just have 1826 01:33:02,240 --> 01:33:04,600 Speaker 1: to go into your depth in terms of what you 1827 01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:08,160 Speaker 1: were going to do. What is the lineup going to 1828 01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:10,200 Speaker 1: look like for the Colts in terms of their defensive 1829 01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:13,680 Speaker 1: backfield against Geno Smith, who has thrown you know, I 1830 01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:16,639 Speaker 1: think six interceptions already this year, but against that Raiders offense. 1831 01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:19,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, so I'd assume they'll call Mike Hilton up from 1832 01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:22,160 Speaker 7: the practice squaud for second straight week, so he'll be 1833 01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:24,800 Speaker 7: in the Kenny Moore role. The question will be than 1834 01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:28,360 Speaker 7: what do they do opposite Mooney Ward. I would assume 1835 01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:31,800 Speaker 7: that it's Makai Blackman, who was the one that did 1836 01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:34,960 Speaker 7: fall down on the Tu Tuo at Well interception. They 1837 01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:38,400 Speaker 7: could go with Johnson Edwards undrafted free agent, So you know, 1838 01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:42,080 Speaker 7: that's a little bit of a decision that they're going 1839 01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:45,479 Speaker 7: to have to make. But obviously, you know Xavi and Howard, 1840 01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:48,120 Speaker 7: I think his role would have been scaled back anyways. 1841 01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:52,439 Speaker 7: Had he not retired midweek. But now with that, I'd 1842 01:33:52,439 --> 01:33:55,840 Speaker 7: assume black men and then you know, kind of wait 1843 01:33:55,880 --> 01:33:58,759 Speaker 7: and see. I think Jalen Jones is the best option 1844 01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:01,600 Speaker 7: on the roster, but he unfortunately is dealt with the 1845 01:34:01,640 --> 01:34:04,200 Speaker 7: hamstring issue now a couple different times this year, and 1846 01:34:04,240 --> 01:34:06,000 Speaker 7: he's probably not going to be back. He's stilling in 1847 01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:09,360 Speaker 7: your reserve. He can't play this week, I don't know 1848 01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:12,400 Speaker 7: the year, probably can out a couple of weeks before 1849 01:34:12,439 --> 01:34:15,639 Speaker 7: his return. So yeah, my best guess is Sunday would 1850 01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:19,479 Speaker 7: be kind of the three man corner group Mooney Ward, 1851 01:34:19,640 --> 01:34:22,519 Speaker 7: Mike Kilden for sure, and then a little bit of 1852 01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:24,400 Speaker 7: a debate there and what you do the third corner. 1853 01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:25,559 Speaker 6: But I'd say, makaile blackman. 1854 01:34:25,640 --> 01:34:29,479 Speaker 1: You know, I thought, and you correct me if you are, 1855 01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:32,240 Speaker 1: you know, tell me if you disagree. I thought Hilton 1856 01:34:32,479 --> 01:34:34,439 Speaker 1: for a guy that was a late edition and you know, 1857 01:34:34,479 --> 01:34:38,040 Speaker 1: obviously as somebody that knows lou Anarumo and that defense 1858 01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:42,080 Speaker 1: coming from Cincinnati, But you know, did he jump off 1859 01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:45,599 Speaker 1: the page at meet? No, But considering what was asked 1860 01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:48,280 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, I thought he was sufficient. I thought 1861 01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:50,840 Speaker 1: he was fine, to be honest with you. Now, does 1862 01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:53,200 Speaker 1: that mean he can do an elevated role or more reps. 1863 01:34:53,240 --> 01:34:56,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. But overall, how would you analyze what 1864 01:34:56,160 --> 01:34:59,000 Speaker 1: we've seen so far? Yeah, that's probably a. 1865 01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:00,680 Speaker 7: Good way to describe it. I mean, he obviously had 1866 01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:03,960 Speaker 7: the huge play on the blitz the force fumble there. 1867 01:35:04,120 --> 01:35:06,760 Speaker 1: I know, I thought, Kevin, I'll be honest, and I 1868 01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:09,479 Speaker 1: know that he got in there and but it almost 1869 01:35:09,560 --> 01:35:12,000 Speaker 1: looked to me like the and yes, Hilton had to 1870 01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:14,679 Speaker 1: be there for this to happen, But as I watched 1871 01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:16,640 Speaker 1: it a second time, I thought, did he actually make 1872 01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:19,240 Speaker 1: contact or was the back spinning and it was the 1873 01:35:19,240 --> 01:35:21,320 Speaker 1: inertia of his spin that caused him to lose the ball. 1874 01:35:22,120 --> 01:35:25,479 Speaker 1: Either way, though, Yeah, he was there, right, I mean, 1875 01:35:25,520 --> 01:35:25,800 Speaker 1: he was. 1876 01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:27,880 Speaker 7: There right right. Uh you know, you know as far 1877 01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:29,439 Speaker 7: as him in coverage, I don't think we saw it 1878 01:35:29,479 --> 01:35:31,240 Speaker 7: like a ton of reps. So you know, a little 1879 01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:33,040 Speaker 7: bit wait and see. Now it's different with him and 1880 01:35:33,120 --> 01:35:35,720 Speaker 7: Xavier Howard. He actually played football last year, so you know, 1881 01:35:35,720 --> 01:35:37,479 Speaker 7: maybe I don't have as much of a wait, like 1882 01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:38,719 Speaker 7: what's what's in the tank. 1883 01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:39,200 Speaker 6: For this dude? 1884 01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:41,559 Speaker 7: And you know, for me, the biggest issue with Howard 1885 01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:44,160 Speaker 7: wasn't that you gave him the tryst that the minute 1886 01:35:44,160 --> 01:35:45,679 Speaker 7: he walked in the door, he handed him the keys 1887 01:35:45,680 --> 01:35:46,519 Speaker 7: to the starting lineup. 1888 01:35:46,840 --> 01:35:47,840 Speaker 1: It's like, don't you. 1889 01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:49,479 Speaker 7: Want to see where this dude at. I mean, he 1890 01:35:49,520 --> 01:35:53,560 Speaker 7: didn't play football last year. So yeah, I again, I 1891 01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:56,680 Speaker 7: think Hilton was fine. But you know, Kenny Moore the 1892 01:35:56,680 --> 01:35:58,880 Speaker 7: second and now that you're saying this, Jake, but I 1893 01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:03,200 Speaker 7: just think people appreciate him still. And you know, I 1894 01:36:03,200 --> 01:36:05,439 Speaker 7: think I told you guys last week entering last week's game, 1895 01:36:05,560 --> 01:36:07,879 Speaker 7: in the games at Kenny's missed in the last few years, 1896 01:36:08,200 --> 01:36:10,800 Speaker 7: Colt have been given up thirty three points per game 1897 01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:12,840 Speaker 7: with him out of the line. I've been not last 1898 01:36:12,880 --> 01:36:15,280 Speaker 7: he goes twenty seven. But I just think even when 1899 01:36:15,320 --> 01:36:17,960 Speaker 7: he's not making plays like picking off cam Ward and 1900 01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:19,600 Speaker 7: taking it back for a touchdown, I think there's so 1901 01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:21,960 Speaker 7: many plays where he's just in the right spot and 1902 01:36:22,280 --> 01:36:23,840 Speaker 7: you just kind of take that for granted over the 1903 01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:24,920 Speaker 7: course of sixty minutes. 1904 01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:29,840 Speaker 1: You know, Kevin Bowen is our guest, Kevin the defensively 1905 01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:34,400 Speaker 1: speaking against the Raiders, one of the things that is 1906 01:36:34,439 --> 01:36:37,240 Speaker 1: obviously going to be and I think there's a blueprint here. 1907 01:36:38,200 --> 01:36:41,120 Speaker 1: Brock Bauers is an important and the Raiders are starting 1908 01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:43,040 Speaker 1: to run the football more, I mean Genty's you know, 1909 01:36:43,040 --> 01:36:45,479 Speaker 1: they're starting to find ways to kind of get him going. 1910 01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:48,400 Speaker 1: But so much of the Raiders offense I think is 1911 01:36:48,680 --> 01:36:52,120 Speaker 1: centered around brock Bauers, even if they're not getting him 1912 01:36:52,120 --> 01:36:56,200 Speaker 1: the ball rather just using him as a decoy. Is 1913 01:36:56,200 --> 01:36:58,800 Speaker 1: is good enough in terms of what he can bring 1914 01:36:58,840 --> 01:37:01,280 Speaker 1: to the table, but he also is dinged up, right? 1915 01:37:01,360 --> 01:37:03,639 Speaker 1: How much does that change? Do you think what Ana 1916 01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:08,200 Speaker 1: Rumo tries to schematically come up with for the Raiders? 1917 01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:11,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think a good point. And honestly, I don't 1918 01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:13,720 Speaker 7: know if it'll happen during your show, but certainly during 1919 01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:16,799 Speaker 7: John's show he might have some news on the Raiders 1920 01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:19,080 Speaker 7: injury report. So Bowers, like you said, has deal with 1921 01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:23,160 Speaker 7: the knee injury really all year long. He was limited Wednesday, 1922 01:37:23,320 --> 01:37:28,120 Speaker 7: didn't practice yesterday, So you know, is that midweek maintenance 1923 01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:30,320 Speaker 7: for a guy that's clearly dealing with something? Is it 1924 01:37:30,400 --> 01:37:32,000 Speaker 7: more than that that would be something to keep an 1925 01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:35,160 Speaker 7: eye on and Ma's crosby their stud defensive end. 1926 01:37:35,200 --> 01:37:37,240 Speaker 1: It didn't practice either. 1927 01:37:37,080 --> 01:37:39,640 Speaker 7: And you know, he's probably own the right to have 1928 01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:41,760 Speaker 7: his veteran rest day, but that's not something he does 1929 01:37:41,800 --> 01:37:43,840 Speaker 7: it's the first time he's actually an age report all year. 1930 01:37:44,040 --> 01:37:47,280 Speaker 7: So you know, we'd obviously have some news items here 1931 01:37:47,960 --> 01:37:50,360 Speaker 7: from a you know, injury standpoint on a Friday, but 1932 01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:53,120 Speaker 7: you know they definitely have a couple out there. So yeah, 1933 01:37:53,160 --> 01:37:55,679 Speaker 7: I mean Bowers is huge, especially with you know, Geno 1934 01:37:55,760 --> 01:37:59,160 Speaker 7: Smith needs to get going and you would think, you know, 1935 01:37:59,479 --> 01:38:01,880 Speaker 7: some simple rose to an elite tight end would help 1936 01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:03,920 Speaker 7: you kind of get back into that rhythm there. So 1937 01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:06,640 Speaker 7: that's a huge storyline here as we sit here on 1938 01:38:06,640 --> 01:38:07,160 Speaker 7: this Friday. 1939 01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:11,880 Speaker 1: You know, Geno Smith is and I like Geno Smith, 1940 01:38:12,320 --> 01:38:15,799 Speaker 1: and he's had moments where you know, he has certainly 1941 01:38:15,840 --> 01:38:17,679 Speaker 1: been to use the Mike Hilton word that I used, 1942 01:38:17,680 --> 01:38:20,200 Speaker 1: a sufficient quarterback. I don't know that Geno Smith anybody 1943 01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:22,840 Speaker 1: looks at him and goes, this guy is you know, 1944 01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:26,200 Speaker 1: but he's been a good player, and now that he 1945 01:38:26,320 --> 01:38:28,040 Speaker 1: is with the Raiders, there was part of me, Kevin 1946 01:38:28,040 --> 01:38:31,120 Speaker 1: that thought to myself, well, you know, you're kind of 1947 01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:33,599 Speaker 1: starting from scratch there, and then I'll be honest with you, 1948 01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:36,080 Speaker 1: you forget it was Pete Carroll that was the one 1949 01:38:36,080 --> 01:38:38,800 Speaker 1: that kind of reawakened him anyway to begin with, right, 1950 01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:41,920 Speaker 1: So one would assume that the pieces are in place 1951 01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:45,080 Speaker 1: there for this to kind of get going, and maybe 1952 01:38:45,120 --> 01:38:47,800 Speaker 1: they simply need the running game to get that going 1953 01:38:47,840 --> 01:38:50,000 Speaker 1: for him. I know that we're not weekly covering the Raiders, 1954 01:38:50,040 --> 01:38:53,960 Speaker 1: but for this week it is of note. But Genty 1955 01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:55,720 Speaker 1: is a guy that in the beginning of the year 1956 01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:57,519 Speaker 1: we didn't see a lot from and now all of 1957 01:38:57,560 --> 01:38:59,960 Speaker 1: a sudden it's kind of uncorked. How big a ballot 1958 01:39:00,160 --> 01:39:02,559 Speaker 1: n challenge do you think it's going to be for 1959 01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:03,479 Speaker 1: the Colts defense? 1960 01:39:04,360 --> 01:39:06,519 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's a good point. And I've kind 1961 01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:08,759 Speaker 7: of forgotten this, Jake. I didn't realize Shane Stiken actually 1962 01:39:08,760 --> 01:39:11,200 Speaker 7: had a year with Geno Smith, you know, the old 1963 01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:14,400 Speaker 7: NFL cycle. I guess everybody's with everybody at some point. 1964 01:39:14,439 --> 01:39:18,759 Speaker 7: But Shane spoke super highly of him earlier this week, 1965 01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:21,920 Speaker 7: so you know, as far as the Raiders are concerned, Yeah, 1966 01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:25,120 Speaker 7: Gens finally got going last week. I think they've kind 1967 01:39:25,120 --> 01:39:28,240 Speaker 7: of been waiting for him to, you know, really really 1968 01:39:28,240 --> 01:39:31,400 Speaker 7: get going. Ripped off a big one, and you know, 1969 01:39:31,439 --> 01:39:33,360 Speaker 7: if you look at this game on Sunday, for me, 1970 01:39:33,560 --> 01:39:36,759 Speaker 7: so much of it is about getting the lead early, 1971 01:39:36,840 --> 01:39:40,280 Speaker 7: which I know is captain obvious, but think about their personnel. 1972 01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:43,360 Speaker 7: You know, when you think about Gen t it's he's 1973 01:39:43,400 --> 01:39:46,160 Speaker 7: done a great jalbum breaking tapped so far in his 1974 01:39:46,280 --> 01:39:50,240 Speaker 7: NFL career, and they're they are without their best offensive lineman, 1975 01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:53,000 Speaker 7: Colton Miller at left tackle. So if you can get 1976 01:39:53,000 --> 01:39:56,120 Speaker 7: a lead early, that limits how much tackling you got 1977 01:39:56,160 --> 01:39:58,240 Speaker 7: to do on gens in the third and fourth quarter, 1978 01:39:58,320 --> 01:40:01,120 Speaker 7: where we've obviously seen right here Jonn Taylor rip off 1979 01:40:01,200 --> 01:40:03,640 Speaker 7: huge runs and then of course if you're in more 1980 01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:07,559 Speaker 7: obvious passing situations, that's a backup left tackle having to 1981 01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:09,320 Speaker 7: hold up. And last he lost it was really good 1982 01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:12,360 Speaker 7: last week. So you know, for me, you know this 1983 01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:13,960 Speaker 7: is the Gus Bradley era. I think we'd be a 1984 01:40:13,960 --> 01:40:15,960 Speaker 7: little nervous. So, boy, is you going to get into 1985 01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:19,040 Speaker 7: a rhythm here with some simple completions early in games? 1986 01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:20,880 Speaker 7: And then are they going to kind of stay in 1987 01:40:20,920 --> 01:40:22,640 Speaker 7: it on the scoreboard. But if you can jump on 1988 01:40:22,720 --> 01:40:25,320 Speaker 7: them early, then I think you start to question that 1989 01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:27,920 Speaker 7: Gino's lack of confidence all of that, because Pete Carroll's 1990 01:40:27,920 --> 01:40:30,680 Speaker 7: already feeling in questions about, hey, are you looking at 1991 01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:33,320 Speaker 7: Kenny Pickett, which you know might sound crazy to some people, 1992 01:40:33,360 --> 01:40:36,240 Speaker 7: but that's how much Gino has struggled this season, Eddie. 1993 01:40:36,280 --> 01:40:38,479 Speaker 1: You know what we say about Kenny Pickett right Wait, 1994 01:40:38,880 --> 01:40:43,200 Speaker 1: he's got his little hands out there. Yes, that's Kenny Pigott. Kevin, 1995 01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:44,559 Speaker 1: I think I was doing the morning show with you 1996 01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:47,600 Speaker 1: when he was going through the draft cycle. And I 1997 01:40:47,600 --> 01:40:49,519 Speaker 1: don't know why it is. Maybe it's just some weird 1998 01:40:49,600 --> 01:40:52,040 Speaker 1: seventh grade guy mentality of mine, but I would not 1999 01:40:52,080 --> 01:40:54,960 Speaker 1: want the entire world to know that I have tiny hands. 2000 01:40:56,080 --> 01:40:58,439 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm shocked to fifty three year old is still 2001 01:40:58,720 --> 01:40:59,559 Speaker 7: using that bit. 2002 01:41:01,280 --> 01:41:04,360 Speaker 1: What it was. I mean, it was fifty year old 2003 01:41:04,400 --> 01:41:06,040 Speaker 1: you were dealing with. I mean, did you really think 2004 01:41:06,080 --> 01:41:07,800 Speaker 1: things were going to change in three years? 2005 01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:10,400 Speaker 7: I don't know. I thought after that big birthday party, 2006 01:41:10,520 --> 01:41:13,679 Speaker 7: you know, somehow, some way he was showing out some maturity. 2007 01:41:13,680 --> 01:41:14,799 Speaker 7: But good to see you, Heavan. 2008 01:41:15,280 --> 01:41:18,479 Speaker 1: Thank you. By the way, Chargers is where Shane stiken 2009 01:41:18,520 --> 01:41:21,400 Speaker 1: had Gino Smith right when he was his second stint 2010 01:41:21,439 --> 01:41:23,960 Speaker 1: with the Chargers. Shane Stikeen was a quarterbacks coach when 2011 01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:26,439 Speaker 1: Gino Smith was there for a cup of coffee. In 2012 01:41:26,439 --> 01:41:30,040 Speaker 1: case anybody was curious on that, Kevin Bow and our guest, Kevin, 2013 01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:35,639 Speaker 1: curious of this from your standpoint, give me the area 2014 01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:39,839 Speaker 1: of the Colts so far that you still aren't sold, 2015 01:41:39,960 --> 01:41:41,920 Speaker 1: either in a good or bad way. In other words, 2016 01:41:41,960 --> 01:41:44,400 Speaker 1: maybe an area where they've struggled, where you're saying, yeah, 2017 01:41:44,439 --> 01:41:46,439 Speaker 1: but that's kind of concern to me that that simply 2018 01:41:46,479 --> 01:41:49,200 Speaker 1: was matchup stuff, or an area where they've looked really 2019 01:41:49,240 --> 01:41:52,760 Speaker 1: good where you're still not fully ready to make the 2020 01:41:52,760 --> 01:41:53,360 Speaker 1: down payment. 2021 01:41:56,960 --> 01:41:58,800 Speaker 7: You know, the pass rush last week I thought was 2022 01:41:58,840 --> 01:42:01,639 Speaker 7: really good. And that's against the guy I guess. 2023 01:42:01,520 --> 01:42:02,000 Speaker 3: Of a lot quick. 2024 01:42:02,040 --> 01:42:04,600 Speaker 7: I know Stafford doesn't move a whole lot, but you know, 2025 01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:06,320 Speaker 7: is that sustainable? 2026 01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:06,800 Speaker 1: Again? 2027 01:42:06,840 --> 01:42:09,160 Speaker 7: Last two was really good last week? You know, is 2028 01:42:09,200 --> 01:42:12,400 Speaker 7: that going to be the case continually moving forward? I 2029 01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:15,479 Speaker 7: think I'd probably go there. You know, Daniel Jones has 2030 01:42:15,479 --> 01:42:18,880 Speaker 7: been outstanding. I mean, hell, you know, if you could 2031 01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:21,800 Speaker 7: imagine the first four weeks of the season looking like 2032 01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:23,960 Speaker 7: this and told me that in August, I always said 2033 01:42:24,560 --> 01:42:27,600 Speaker 7: no chance. You know, as more film I guess is 2034 01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:30,840 Speaker 7: on Daniel Jones in a Colts uniform. Is that still 2035 01:42:30,880 --> 01:42:31,400 Speaker 7: the case? 2036 01:42:32,320 --> 01:42:32,559 Speaker 1: You know? 2037 01:42:32,880 --> 01:42:35,920 Speaker 7: And just in general, I think, and I'd say this 2038 01:42:35,960 --> 01:42:38,519 Speaker 7: for any NFL year. You know, it's just like, all right, 2039 01:42:39,680 --> 01:42:41,840 Speaker 7: there's the same team. It's the same team there. When 2040 01:42:41,960 --> 01:42:44,280 Speaker 7: Halloween rules around, it's the same team there. And Thanksgiving 2041 01:42:44,360 --> 01:42:46,519 Speaker 7: rules around, there's the same team there at the New Year, 2042 01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:49,080 Speaker 7: you know, I mean NFL seasons are long. Well, I mean, 2043 01:42:49,640 --> 01:42:51,280 Speaker 7: you know, if you would have said, hey, the Colts 2044 01:42:51,280 --> 01:42:53,320 Speaker 7: are going to win the super Bowl in two thousand 2045 01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:56,200 Speaker 7: and six the Monday after the Jacksonville game, you know, 2046 01:42:56,240 --> 01:42:58,439 Speaker 7: people would have called you an idiot based off where 2047 01:42:58,439 --> 01:43:01,479 Speaker 7: that run defense was, and then all this Rob Morris this, 2048 01:43:01,760 --> 01:43:04,599 Speaker 7: and you know, Bob Sanders that, and they're shutting down 2049 01:43:04,640 --> 01:43:07,479 Speaker 7: Larry Johnson and the rest is history on that playoff run. 2050 01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:09,720 Speaker 7: So I just think the grind of the season, you know, 2051 01:43:09,760 --> 01:43:13,679 Speaker 7: things kind of naturally arise, and but yeah, those would 2052 01:43:13,680 --> 01:43:15,280 Speaker 7: be a couple of items. And then you know, maybe 2053 01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:18,599 Speaker 7: corner depths. You know, again, just because Xamer Howard's gone 2054 01:43:18,720 --> 01:43:21,320 Speaker 7: doesn't mean that that cures all. It just means you're 2055 01:43:21,360 --> 01:43:24,760 Speaker 7: trying different people in that spot there. So that would 2056 01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:25,639 Speaker 7: be another, you. 2057 01:43:25,600 --> 01:43:28,040 Speaker 1: Know, one of the things. Kevin, let me bring something 2058 01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:31,160 Speaker 1: up that I found interesting. I think it was earlier 2059 01:43:31,240 --> 01:43:33,559 Speaker 1: this week. Maybe it was last year, but I think 2060 01:43:33,560 --> 01:43:35,720 Speaker 1: it was earlier this week. I know it was a 2061 01:43:35,760 --> 01:43:37,800 Speaker 1: week go today. Sorry, I had on Jeff George, and 2062 01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:40,720 Speaker 1: the reason I did is because Jeff George is a 2063 01:43:40,760 --> 01:43:43,080 Speaker 1: guy that, you know, never really got his footing in 2064 01:43:43,120 --> 01:43:45,160 Speaker 1: stop number one. It was here for the Colts, and 2065 01:43:45,200 --> 01:43:49,200 Speaker 1: then when he went to Atlanta, you know, instantly, seemingly, 2066 01:43:49,240 --> 01:43:51,640 Speaker 1: you know, he's strown for four thousand yards and everything 2067 01:43:51,720 --> 01:43:53,960 Speaker 1: just kind of came together. So I wanted to know 2068 01:43:54,040 --> 01:43:56,519 Speaker 1: what the difference was from stop one to stop two. 2069 01:43:57,160 --> 01:43:59,679 Speaker 1: And one of the things that he pointed out was, look, 2070 01:44:00,280 --> 01:44:03,000 Speaker 1: it was really hard as a young quarterback to go 2071 01:44:03,080 --> 01:44:07,120 Speaker 1: into a situation on a veteran team knowing that guys 2072 01:44:07,120 --> 01:44:09,719 Speaker 1: are looking at me and I'm supposed to be a leader. 2073 01:44:09,760 --> 01:44:11,800 Speaker 1: But yet, how am I supposed to tell a thirty 2074 01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:13,680 Speaker 1: one year old guy, as a twenty one year old 2075 01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:15,519 Speaker 1: kid that this is what I want him to do 2076 01:44:15,560 --> 01:44:17,439 Speaker 1: and this is how I'm going to lead that guy. 2077 01:44:18,360 --> 01:44:22,439 Speaker 1: And it seems to me like Daniel Jones is one 2078 01:44:22,760 --> 01:44:26,479 Speaker 1: coming here that just the experience and what he went 2079 01:44:26,479 --> 01:44:28,439 Speaker 1: through in New York, he doesn't strike me as an 2080 01:44:28,479 --> 01:44:31,880 Speaker 1: overly vociferous guy to his teammates, but just by the 2081 01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:34,840 Speaker 1: example of coming in and having to earn it that 2082 01:44:35,120 --> 01:44:38,200 Speaker 1: over the course of time, that has developed a trust 2083 01:44:38,240 --> 01:44:41,160 Speaker 1: amongst his teammates, and now there is a respect there 2084 01:44:41,200 --> 01:44:44,919 Speaker 1: that allows him to naturally be a leader. You're closer 2085 01:44:44,960 --> 01:44:48,040 Speaker 1: inside the locker room than I. Is that a fair observation. 2086 01:44:49,479 --> 01:44:53,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, yes, I think you're onto something, and I think 2087 01:44:53,240 --> 01:44:55,680 Speaker 7: there's a level of respect and just watching how he 2088 01:44:55,800 --> 01:44:58,560 Speaker 7: works from guys within the locker room. And then I 2089 01:44:58,560 --> 01:45:00,400 Speaker 7: don't know, if you guys played the clips we played 2090 01:45:00,439 --> 01:45:02,920 Speaker 7: on our show, I might be caught the Saquon Barkley 2091 01:45:03,240 --> 01:45:05,240 Speaker 7: audio from a couple of weeks back, just like how 2092 01:45:05,240 --> 01:45:08,680 Speaker 7: happy he's been watching Daniel Jones. I mean, imagine that, 2093 01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:10,840 Speaker 7: like you don't know Daniel Jones at all, and all 2094 01:45:10,840 --> 01:45:12,840 Speaker 7: of a sudden you see Saquon Barkley, one of the 2095 01:45:12,840 --> 01:45:16,519 Speaker 7: best players in the NFL, start gushing about him, Like 2096 01:45:16,680 --> 01:45:19,240 Speaker 7: to me, that would be like damn. I mean, things 2097 01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:21,439 Speaker 7: went really bad in New York and this guy, I mean, 2098 01:45:21,439 --> 01:45:23,479 Speaker 7: he's like he's talking about him like he's his son. 2099 01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:27,559 Speaker 7: So you know, I think you don't hear you know 2100 01:45:28,160 --> 01:45:30,879 Speaker 7: New York, he wasn't the problem, I guess. 2101 01:45:30,720 --> 01:45:32,240 Speaker 1: Is the easiest way to be Well, we're starting to 2102 01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:33,800 Speaker 1: find that out more right, you know what I mean? 2103 01:45:33,920 --> 01:45:37,879 Speaker 7: Sure with the Giants, but like again, hearing those comments 2104 01:45:37,920 --> 01:45:39,519 Speaker 7: is not just you know, kind of throw away line 2105 01:45:39,560 --> 01:45:40,960 Speaker 7: take on Barkley, He's like, no, let me go out 2106 01:45:40,960 --> 01:45:43,479 Speaker 7: of my way and gush about this dude for whatever 2107 01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:47,840 Speaker 7: two minutes. So I think all of that probably is 2108 01:45:47,960 --> 01:45:48,840 Speaker 7: at play here too. 2109 01:45:49,120 --> 01:45:51,840 Speaker 1: And then along those lines, Eddie and I were talking 2110 01:45:51,840 --> 01:45:55,960 Speaker 1: about this earlier, and that's the story and kind of 2111 01:45:55,960 --> 01:45:59,920 Speaker 1: the saga of Ady Mitchell and I've gone back in 2112 01:46:00,080 --> 01:46:03,840 Speaker 1: fourth on this. Kevin. Eddie asked me this question, if 2113 01:46:03,880 --> 01:46:07,439 Speaker 1: you were Shane Steikin or you were Chris Ballard, how 2114 01:46:07,439 --> 01:46:11,719 Speaker 1: do you handle the ad Mitchell situation? So with that question, 2115 01:46:11,800 --> 01:46:13,640 Speaker 1: I'll put that to you. How would you handle it 2116 01:46:13,680 --> 01:46:14,599 Speaker 1: if you're Shane Steikin. 2117 01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:22,200 Speaker 7: Well, I think the Alex Pearson injury changed everything. You know, 2118 01:46:22,320 --> 01:46:26,880 Speaker 7: I'm under the impression that it was heading towards an 2119 01:46:26,920 --> 01:46:29,120 Speaker 7: active week for him and then all of a sudden 2120 01:46:29,840 --> 01:46:34,240 Speaker 7: with Pierce. You can't really do that just given the 2121 01:46:34,280 --> 01:46:38,479 Speaker 7: availability of your white out. So I expect Mitchell to 2122 01:46:38,640 --> 01:46:41,320 Speaker 7: dress now. I'm not sitting here acting like he's going 2123 01:46:41,479 --> 01:46:46,160 Speaker 7: to play a lot, you know. I think the old 2124 01:46:46,160 --> 01:46:49,000 Speaker 7: T word who do you trust? And I think for 2125 01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:51,360 Speaker 7: a week. There's gonna be a little bit of a 2126 01:46:51,439 --> 01:46:53,519 Speaker 7: punishment for that. Again, maybe not to the extreme that 2127 01:46:53,560 --> 01:46:56,840 Speaker 7: they could have given Pierce the situation, but I would 2128 01:46:56,880 --> 01:46:59,720 Speaker 7: think Ashton Dolan will honestly take on more of that 2129 01:46:59,840 --> 01:47:03,599 Speaker 7: rule and then Mitchell. So that's how you know when 2130 01:47:03,600 --> 01:47:06,160 Speaker 7: you hear Shane Stiken talk about Adie Mitchell this week, 2131 01:47:06,200 --> 01:47:10,200 Speaker 7: even today in the press conference, you'll ask them, given 2132 01:47:10,240 --> 01:47:12,880 Speaker 7: the Pierce situation, like worry out with Adi Mitchell, We're 2133 01:47:12,920 --> 01:47:16,280 Speaker 7: working through that like still, I mean and again and 2134 01:47:16,400 --> 01:47:20,800 Speaker 7: Shane Sike and Lingo that I think is, you know, 2135 01:47:21,200 --> 01:47:26,439 Speaker 7: pretty evident that he clearly is super displeased with what 2136 01:47:26,479 --> 01:47:29,800 Speaker 7: happened on Sunday and felt like some accountability needed to 2137 01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:33,559 Speaker 7: be there. So again, I think the plan has probably 2138 01:47:33,600 --> 01:47:36,320 Speaker 7: changed a little bit just given Pierce the situation and 2139 01:47:36,360 --> 01:47:38,680 Speaker 7: the other injuries. I should add they're not in a 2140 01:47:38,760 --> 01:47:41,479 Speaker 7: spot right now. You know, they ruled out four guys today. 2141 01:47:41,760 --> 01:47:45,519 Speaker 7: That's easily the biggest number they've ruled out all season long. 2142 01:47:46,240 --> 01:47:48,760 Speaker 7: They need Mike Hilton to be called up from the 2143 01:47:48,800 --> 01:47:51,559 Speaker 7: practice squad to replace Kenny Moore, and then with though 2144 01:47:51,640 --> 01:47:53,960 Speaker 7: Tyler Goodson, they need to add another running back. I 2145 01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:57,519 Speaker 7: would assume that's a mere Abdullah the former. I think 2146 01:47:57,520 --> 01:47:59,400 Speaker 7: he's a second round pick back in the day. So 2147 01:47:59,560 --> 01:48:02,800 Speaker 7: right there, those are your two practice squad call ups 2148 01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:06,439 Speaker 7: for this week. So you can't really unless I'm missing something. 2149 01:48:06,520 --> 01:48:08,320 Speaker 7: I mean, they can make a office spot, but I 2150 01:48:08,320 --> 01:48:10,760 Speaker 7: don't see them adding a white out, I guess is 2151 01:48:10,760 --> 01:48:13,840 Speaker 7: what I'm getting at here. So again, I think plans 2152 01:48:13,840 --> 01:48:18,000 Speaker 7: have changed for how they wanted to maybe punish ad Mitchell. 2153 01:48:18,520 --> 01:48:21,000 Speaker 1: By the way, and I could be wrong here, but 2154 01:48:21,400 --> 01:48:23,600 Speaker 1: on the when you're oh, you know what, maybe I 2155 01:48:23,840 --> 01:48:25,880 Speaker 1: completely missed this. Is he on the active or did 2156 01:48:25,880 --> 01:48:29,439 Speaker 1: I miss the the transaction of it? Because I think 2157 01:48:29,439 --> 01:48:32,559 Speaker 1: he played earlier this year. If I'm not mistaken, your 2158 01:48:32,600 --> 01:48:35,240 Speaker 1: lissen is Bentley the fourth he is? Is he no 2159 01:48:35,320 --> 01:48:36,439 Speaker 1: longer on the practice squad? 2160 01:48:37,920 --> 01:48:38,280 Speaker 8: He is? 2161 01:48:38,360 --> 01:48:39,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean they could go there, and yeah, you 2162 01:48:39,840 --> 01:48:42,639 Speaker 7: are correct, he did play week one of it right 2163 01:48:43,320 --> 01:48:46,040 Speaker 7: when Goodson was originally out. So yes, they could go 2164 01:48:46,080 --> 01:48:48,240 Speaker 7: with Bentley, they could go with Abdullah, but I think 2165 01:48:48,280 --> 01:48:51,599 Speaker 7: they're going with Abulah, probably because they heard your impression 2166 01:48:51,640 --> 01:48:53,000 Speaker 7: too much and they didn't hear it again. 2167 01:48:54,400 --> 01:48:56,200 Speaker 2: Par for the course with me, Kevin, why do you 2168 01:48:56,200 --> 01:48:58,599 Speaker 2: feel like a punishment is necessarily for Ady Mitchell because 2169 01:48:58,600 --> 01:49:00,439 Speaker 2: I said, as I said here I think about it, 2170 01:49:00,560 --> 01:49:02,000 Speaker 2: was like, look, he's already owned up to it, he's 2171 01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:04,479 Speaker 2: apologized in front of the team. I understand there has 2172 01:49:04,520 --> 01:49:06,559 Speaker 2: to be some level of accountability, but at the same time, 2173 01:49:07,120 --> 01:49:09,120 Speaker 2: you want to see Harry responds because this is easily 2174 01:49:09,200 --> 01:49:12,439 Speaker 2: the most adversity he's faced as a pro. I'm in 2175 01:49:12,479 --> 01:49:14,120 Speaker 2: the camp of I want to see him still out 2176 01:49:14,120 --> 01:49:15,760 Speaker 2: there in the same early was last week to see 2177 01:49:15,760 --> 01:49:17,960 Speaker 2: if he can respond and if not in the early goings, 2178 01:49:18,280 --> 01:49:20,320 Speaker 2: then you make that move to bencham and then you 2179 01:49:20,360 --> 01:49:22,639 Speaker 2: go to Ashton doing Yeah. 2180 01:49:22,680 --> 01:49:24,960 Speaker 7: I just don't think he's earned that. Frankly, I think 2181 01:49:25,000 --> 01:49:28,960 Speaker 7: Jonathan Taylor and ad Mitchell are two very different examples. 2182 01:49:29,000 --> 01:49:32,559 Speaker 7: And I can't stress enough that I think Shane Steiken 2183 01:49:32,800 --> 01:49:35,000 Speaker 7: emphasize this to the nth degree. 2184 01:49:35,360 --> 01:49:37,760 Speaker 6: And when you have a guy make that. 2185 01:49:37,760 --> 01:49:43,839 Speaker 7: Mistake almost immediately after you've emphasized that as a coaching staff, 2186 01:49:44,600 --> 01:49:46,439 Speaker 7: then you got to do something I think a little 2187 01:49:46,479 --> 01:49:49,040 Speaker 7: bit further than what you were doing. So again I 2188 01:49:49,080 --> 01:49:51,639 Speaker 7: checked him to dress. But I think the Alex Peir 2189 01:49:51,680 --> 01:49:54,280 Speaker 7: situation has just changed it. And even last week in 2190 01:49:54,320 --> 01:49:58,200 Speaker 7: the game. You know, he makes that play and whatever 2191 01:49:58,200 --> 01:50:01,200 Speaker 7: that was early third quarter, the next time he shows 2192 01:50:01,280 --> 01:50:03,680 Speaker 7: up in the box scores the holding penalty. It's not 2193 01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:05,559 Speaker 7: like he showed up and made a play on the 2194 01:50:05,560 --> 01:50:08,760 Speaker 7: next series or he like the next time he made 2195 01:50:08,760 --> 01:50:12,479 Speaker 7: an impact on the game. He made an awful impact 2196 01:50:12,640 --> 01:50:15,960 Speaker 7: on the game. And I think that really really bothered 2197 01:50:15,960 --> 01:50:19,840 Speaker 7: the coaching staffs as well. So again, I think the 2198 01:50:19,880 --> 01:50:22,840 Speaker 7: plan was for probably in a one week situation, but 2199 01:50:23,240 --> 01:50:26,960 Speaker 7: you know, Pierce having this setback this morning has probably 2200 01:50:27,000 --> 01:50:30,120 Speaker 7: all changed it from hey, maybe we could have them 2201 01:50:30,120 --> 01:50:34,240 Speaker 7: an active to all right, now we need to dress them. 2202 01:50:34,360 --> 01:50:36,439 Speaker 7: But still I think it's going to be a little 2203 01:50:36,479 --> 01:50:37,800 Speaker 7: bit more ash doing in that role. 2204 01:50:38,200 --> 01:50:41,320 Speaker 1: You know, I said this earlier, Kevin, give me your 2205 01:50:41,360 --> 01:50:45,040 Speaker 1: thoughts on this. If I'm Shane Steike and my answer 2206 01:50:45,040 --> 01:50:48,320 Speaker 1: on it is this, and you critique this or tell 2207 01:50:48,400 --> 01:50:51,919 Speaker 1: me just your feel on it. With the Aighty Mitchell situation, 2208 01:50:52,040 --> 01:50:53,640 Speaker 1: if I'm Shane Stike and I look at it and 2209 01:50:53,640 --> 01:50:56,599 Speaker 1: I go, look, this guy had red flags coming out. 2210 01:50:56,640 --> 01:50:59,840 Speaker 1: We knew that we've been waiting for him to get going. 2211 01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:02,439 Speaker 1: He made he did make a great play, even though 2212 01:51:02,479 --> 01:51:04,840 Speaker 1: I think even he was stunned that ball was in 2213 01:51:04,880 --> 01:51:09,560 Speaker 1: his arms. But he made two mistakes, very very costly mistakes. 2214 01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:12,960 Speaker 1: And if I'm a coach, it would peeve me. But 2215 01:51:13,520 --> 01:51:15,680 Speaker 1: if I'm a coach, this is also a test of 2216 01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:20,320 Speaker 1: what I've been preaching, and that is that we create culture. 2217 01:51:20,360 --> 01:51:22,880 Speaker 1: Every franchise says this, Every team says this, We create 2218 01:51:22,880 --> 01:51:25,439 Speaker 1: a culture here. We have good guys in that locker room, 2219 01:51:25,439 --> 01:51:28,679 Speaker 1: we have leaders. At some point, you've got to test 2220 01:51:28,680 --> 01:51:31,200 Speaker 1: your leaders, and you've got to say, I'm gonna let 2221 01:51:32,040 --> 01:51:35,360 Speaker 1: the den, I'm gonna let the pack here take care 2222 01:51:35,479 --> 01:51:38,160 Speaker 1: of the errant kitten. I'm gonna let them do it. 2223 01:51:38,280 --> 01:51:40,880 Speaker 1: And that's as a as a coach, I have to 2224 01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:44,759 Speaker 1: trust that I've created the right atmosphere where these things 2225 01:51:45,080 --> 01:51:49,439 Speaker 1: can internally take care of themselves on my off base there. 2226 01:51:49,479 --> 01:51:51,000 Speaker 1: And do they have that yet? 2227 01:51:54,320 --> 01:51:58,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a good point. I guess I don't know 2228 01:51:58,560 --> 01:52:02,519 Speaker 7: to the last part. You know, I'm always torn on like, okay, 2229 01:52:02,600 --> 01:52:06,120 Speaker 7: you know, culture, leadership, accountability, you know, all these buzzwords 2230 01:52:06,160 --> 01:52:09,360 Speaker 7: we hear, and then like how do you define that? 2231 01:52:09,600 --> 01:52:11,600 Speaker 7: You know, christ Out has made a huge emphasis of 2232 01:52:12,040 --> 01:52:13,840 Speaker 7: you know, I want a lot of individually like high 2233 01:52:13,920 --> 01:52:16,000 Speaker 7: character guys. I think for the most part, however, you 2234 01:52:16,040 --> 01:52:19,800 Speaker 7: define character, whether it's work ethic, whether it's you know, 2235 01:52:19,960 --> 01:52:22,519 Speaker 7: good in the community, Like yeah, I think the Colts 2236 01:52:22,560 --> 01:52:25,160 Speaker 7: probably have a lot of that. But it's like, okay, 2237 01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:27,280 Speaker 7: then you know if they have all these guys that 2238 01:52:27,320 --> 01:52:29,800 Speaker 7: are self motivated, and then you know why late in 2239 01:52:29,800 --> 01:52:31,960 Speaker 7: the season, when these bigger games arise in the schedule, 2240 01:52:32,479 --> 01:52:36,280 Speaker 7: do they not deliver to that to that degree? You know, 2241 01:52:36,280 --> 01:52:38,280 Speaker 7: when you think about the word accountability, something I asked 2242 01:52:38,280 --> 01:52:42,240 Speaker 7: Shane on Wednesday was just this, Okay, when does accountability 2243 01:52:42,360 --> 01:52:44,880 Speaker 7: stop at words and when do you feel the need 2244 01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:47,559 Speaker 7: for it to go to action. The words would be 2245 01:52:47,560 --> 01:52:49,439 Speaker 7: Ady Mitchell talking in front of the team on Monday. 2246 01:52:49,880 --> 01:52:52,960 Speaker 7: The action would be Anthony Richardson getting benched. And I 2247 01:52:52,960 --> 01:52:56,720 Speaker 7: think that's difficult. Like to Eddie's point, I get that, 2248 01:52:56,840 --> 01:53:00,639 Speaker 7: Like you know, as a coach, the send a message 2249 01:53:00,680 --> 01:53:02,680 Speaker 7: and say hey, we're coming right back to you, Like 2250 01:53:02,760 --> 01:53:04,680 Speaker 7: you know, last time in the Rams game they went 2251 01:53:04,760 --> 01:53:06,800 Speaker 7: right back to kyn Williams after the fumble. But again, 2252 01:53:06,880 --> 01:53:10,200 Speaker 7: Karen Williams has probably earned the right for that. Jonathan 2253 01:53:10,280 --> 01:53:12,600 Speaker 7: Taylor has earned the right. Like to me, it's not 2254 01:53:12,640 --> 01:53:16,080 Speaker 7: apples to apples ad Mitchell, what has he done in 2255 01:53:16,120 --> 01:53:18,160 Speaker 7: the NFL for him to all of a sudden go 2256 01:53:18,360 --> 01:53:21,479 Speaker 7: right back out there. Last year he wasn't trustworthy either 2257 01:53:21,600 --> 01:53:24,280 Speaker 7: in college to a point, Jake, he had some great 2258 01:53:24,360 --> 01:53:28,200 Speaker 7: highs and then a lot of inconsistency. So I think 2259 01:53:28,240 --> 01:53:30,920 Speaker 7: defining accountability and how far you take it as a 2260 01:53:30,920 --> 01:53:34,160 Speaker 7: coach would be a really difficult thing. And this week, 2261 01:53:34,160 --> 01:53:36,439 Speaker 7: could say even more difficult because all of a sudden, 2262 01:53:36,439 --> 01:53:38,560 Speaker 7: you popped up on the final practice day of the 2263 01:53:38,600 --> 01:53:40,559 Speaker 7: week and a receiver you thought was going to play 2264 01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:42,400 Speaker 7: in the game is no longer playing in that game 2265 01:53:42,400 --> 01:53:45,400 Speaker 7: and Alex Pearce. So yeah, I don't think there was 2266 01:53:45,439 --> 01:53:46,160 Speaker 7: an easy answer. 2267 01:53:47,920 --> 01:53:50,360 Speaker 1: When does Max Bowen make his pick? Usually he has 2268 01:53:50,400 --> 01:53:52,360 Speaker 1: done that by the time you come on with us, 2269 01:53:53,120 --> 01:53:54,400 Speaker 1: I know, And this. 2270 01:53:54,400 --> 01:53:57,240 Speaker 7: Week I've been uh yeah, I mean, I guess I've 2271 01:53:57,280 --> 01:53:57,719 Speaker 7: been lazy. 2272 01:53:57,800 --> 01:53:58,439 Speaker 6: I don't know why. 2273 01:53:58,680 --> 01:54:00,400 Speaker 7: All of a sudden, I just got a I just 2274 01:54:00,479 --> 01:54:02,320 Speaker 7: looked at my Raider's helmet and thought, oh my, we 2275 01:54:02,600 --> 01:54:04,880 Speaker 7: still need to do a pick. So beautiful looking helmet. 2276 01:54:04,920 --> 01:54:06,519 Speaker 1: I was going to say, you can't blame him if 2277 01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:08,560 Speaker 1: he goes with the Raiders helmet, can you? 2278 01:54:08,560 --> 01:54:08,640 Speaker 3: No? 2279 01:54:08,840 --> 01:54:10,679 Speaker 7: And I was surprised he went rams last week. 2280 01:54:10,680 --> 01:54:11,719 Speaker 8: He's won three. 2281 01:54:11,640 --> 01:54:13,160 Speaker 3: In a row, so he's hot. 2282 01:54:13,360 --> 01:54:16,000 Speaker 7: And we'll see if he can stretch the five here. 2283 01:54:16,000 --> 01:54:17,759 Speaker 7: But that rate, you know, the silver and the black 2284 01:54:17,840 --> 01:54:19,360 Speaker 7: and and the look of it. I don't know if 2285 01:54:19,360 --> 01:54:21,080 Speaker 7: that's intimidating. I don't know if he's going to think 2286 01:54:21,120 --> 01:54:24,640 Speaker 7: it's a little HALLOWEENI and maybe that would, you know, 2287 01:54:24,720 --> 01:54:27,280 Speaker 7: stray him. So the cold tummet's all. I'll be very 2288 01:54:27,280 --> 01:54:28,400 Speaker 7: curious to see what he does here. 2289 01:54:28,600 --> 01:54:30,760 Speaker 1: If you had to pick a color design, like if 2290 01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:33,960 Speaker 1: you were the owner of an expansion franchise, I've asked 2291 01:54:33,960 --> 01:54:36,200 Speaker 1: this question to people a lot, But what would your 2292 01:54:36,240 --> 01:54:37,280 Speaker 1: color scheme be? Kevin? 2293 01:54:39,720 --> 01:54:39,880 Speaker 3: Oh? 2294 01:54:39,920 --> 01:54:40,200 Speaker 9: Boy? 2295 01:54:40,600 --> 01:54:42,400 Speaker 7: Am I an NFL team? 2296 01:54:43,320 --> 01:54:45,400 Speaker 1: Boy? That's a good question. Yeah, we'll go NFL. And 2297 01:54:45,440 --> 01:54:48,880 Speaker 1: you're allowed three you know, obviously three colors, like one 2298 01:54:48,960 --> 01:54:51,280 Speaker 1: accentuating color and then two primary colors. 2299 01:54:52,760 --> 01:54:55,520 Speaker 7: Well, my my color palette is. I mean, you know, 2300 01:54:55,560 --> 01:54:57,400 Speaker 7: if you asked me, hey, what makes an orange? What 2301 01:54:57,520 --> 01:55:00,240 Speaker 7: made you know you know what's primary? I mean, I 2302 01:55:00,240 --> 01:55:01,720 Speaker 7: I got a better chance of knowing Mandarin. 2303 01:55:01,760 --> 01:55:04,360 Speaker 1: Well no, no, I'm saying I'm saying I don't mean primary, 2304 01:55:04,440 --> 01:55:06,640 Speaker 1: meaning like you know Roydi. I mean like you have 2305 01:55:06,680 --> 01:55:09,520 Speaker 1: to have two main colors of Team Bowen and then 2306 01:55:09,520 --> 01:55:11,160 Speaker 1: you're allowed to have a third one that just you know, 2307 01:55:11,240 --> 01:55:12,880 Speaker 1: like just the complimentary color. 2308 01:55:13,560 --> 01:55:17,000 Speaker 7: Okay, I love I'm gonna give you. I want the 2309 01:55:17,120 --> 01:55:19,880 Speaker 7: Chargers powder blue. I'm gonna steal from other people. I 2310 01:55:19,920 --> 01:55:24,200 Speaker 7: want the Chargers powder blue. I want Tampa Bay's cream sickle, 2311 01:55:24,840 --> 01:55:29,920 Speaker 7: and I want whatever the old Jets green. 2312 01:55:29,880 --> 01:55:30,360 Speaker 3: Used to be. 2313 01:55:31,560 --> 01:55:34,440 Speaker 7: Wow. Three colors that I'm gonna pick. 2314 01:55:34,600 --> 01:55:38,040 Speaker 1: That you your team will actually look like someone puked 2315 01:55:38,080 --> 01:55:39,720 Speaker 1: on them. But that's cool though, I mean you know 2316 01:55:39,760 --> 01:55:40,880 Speaker 1: what I mean. 2317 01:55:41,720 --> 01:55:43,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, you never know we're gonna be Oregon from 2318 01:55:43,840 --> 01:55:45,560 Speaker 7: ten years ago. You never know what we're gonna wear. 2319 01:55:45,680 --> 01:55:46,960 Speaker 1: That's right, fair enough. 2320 01:55:47,040 --> 01:55:50,560 Speaker 7: I believe this week I think Seahawks Bucks is like 2321 01:55:50,600 --> 01:55:51,880 Speaker 7: one of the best games of the week. I think 2322 01:55:51,880 --> 01:55:52,840 Speaker 7: they're both going through. 2323 01:55:54,880 --> 01:55:59,240 Speaker 1: That is I'm telling you right now. I don't even 2324 01:55:59,240 --> 01:56:01,080 Speaker 1: know if I can say this on the air, but 2325 01:56:01,560 --> 01:56:04,400 Speaker 1: that to me, if the Seahawks are going with their 2326 01:56:04,440 --> 01:56:07,640 Speaker 1: late seventies early eighties uniforms with the silver helmets and 2327 01:56:07,720 --> 01:56:10,200 Speaker 1: the Bucks are going with the cream sickles, that is 2328 01:56:10,280 --> 01:56:14,960 Speaker 1: to me visual football orgy that's what that is, your 2329 01:56:15,000 --> 01:56:18,000 Speaker 1: sports arousal. Yes, yes, I'm glad. 2330 01:56:18,080 --> 01:56:21,160 Speaker 7: I'm glad John's at Binkley's today because that seed is 2331 01:56:21,240 --> 01:56:24,520 Speaker 7: not one I want to sit in for a few hours. 2332 01:56:24,800 --> 01:56:27,880 Speaker 1: That's right, all right, Kevin, enjoy the weekend, and we'll 2333 01:56:27,920 --> 01:56:30,040 Speaker 1: be listening at seven o'clock on Monday for a recap 2334 01:56:30,040 --> 01:56:33,360 Speaker 1: of it all boys, see right, Kevin Bowen joining us 2335 01:56:33,400 --> 01:56:35,560 Speaker 1: on the program. It is a Friday by the way, 2336 01:56:36,400 --> 01:56:38,440 Speaker 1: bottom of the hour, and I'm sure they're thrilled at 2337 01:56:38,440 --> 01:56:41,040 Speaker 1: this point based off that that we are at this point, 2338 01:56:41,040 --> 01:56:43,720 Speaker 1: but it is a Franciscan feel good, good for the 2339 01:56:43,760 --> 01:56:46,320 Speaker 1: hard Friday. And I've got three stories. Actually two of 2340 01:56:46,400 --> 01:56:48,560 Speaker 1: them are kind of personal, but one of them the 2341 01:56:48,600 --> 01:56:50,680 Speaker 1: story of a great young man that's been working hard 2342 01:56:50,720 --> 01:56:53,720 Speaker 1: to get back out into the swing of things, so 2343 01:56:53,800 --> 01:56:56,680 Speaker 1: to speak. And there were a lot of obstacles that 2344 01:56:56,760 --> 01:57:00,360 Speaker 1: came his way, but thanks to the help of not 2345 01:57:00,400 --> 01:57:03,760 Speaker 1: only somebody within his school but his own perseverance, he's back. 2346 01:57:04,160 --> 01:57:09,000 Speaker 1: Will explain next A Friday at the bottom of the Hour. 2347 01:57:11,000 --> 01:57:15,000 Speaker 1: And I love the partnership with Franciscan Health and being 2348 01:57:15,040 --> 01:57:18,400 Speaker 1: able to not only share few good stories because there's 2349 01:57:18,440 --> 01:57:23,360 Speaker 1: so much negativity out there right, even in sport, seems 2350 01:57:23,360 --> 01:57:25,440 Speaker 1: like you're always hearing about stories of people not getting 2351 01:57:25,440 --> 01:57:28,520 Speaker 1: along or fines or whatever it might be. So when 2352 01:57:28,520 --> 01:57:31,960 Speaker 1: we can feature stories, in a particular, stories of young 2353 01:57:32,000 --> 01:57:36,040 Speaker 1: people where a positive impact has been made, then I 2354 01:57:36,080 --> 01:57:38,120 Speaker 1: love being able to do so. And of course, with 2355 01:57:38,320 --> 01:57:41,960 Speaker 1: that important message from Franciscan Health, just forty nine dollars 2356 01:57:42,440 --> 01:57:44,760 Speaker 1: for a heart scan for the number one heart program 2357 01:57:44,800 --> 01:57:47,200 Speaker 1: in Indiana for cardiology by health grades, number one in 2358 01:57:47,240 --> 01:57:50,480 Speaker 1: Indiana for interventional coordinary care and major cardiac surgery by 2359 01:57:50,480 --> 01:57:54,320 Speaker 1: care checks the affordable heart scan for just forty nine dollars. 2360 01:57:54,440 --> 01:57:57,240 Speaker 1: Justin sent me a thing just yesterday that said, Jake, 2361 01:57:57,880 --> 01:57:59,960 Speaker 1: I want to thank you for letting me know about this. 2362 01:58:00,840 --> 01:58:03,160 Speaker 1: It's been on my mind. I went to my cardiologist 2363 01:58:03,280 --> 01:58:05,040 Speaker 1: or my excuse me, my doctor and they set me 2364 01:58:05,120 --> 01:58:06,800 Speaker 1: up with one of the cardiologists. In fact four a 2365 01:58:06,880 --> 01:58:10,040 Speaker 1: heart scan at Franciscan and that peace of mind of 2366 01:58:10,080 --> 01:58:12,400 Speaker 1: knowing not only do you get the heart scan to 2367 01:58:12,440 --> 01:58:14,840 Speaker 1: find out just the calcium within your heart, but also 2368 01:58:15,520 --> 01:58:18,960 Speaker 1: a heart health risk assessment where you can start the 2369 01:58:19,040 --> 01:58:22,400 Speaker 1: right path towards making sure that you are on your 2370 01:58:22,440 --> 01:58:25,680 Speaker 1: way towards a heart healthy lifestyle. This is particularly important 2371 01:58:25,680 --> 01:58:27,560 Speaker 1: if you are over the age of forty, if you 2372 01:58:27,600 --> 01:58:31,720 Speaker 1: are a previous or a current smoker, if you've had 2373 01:58:31,760 --> 01:58:35,760 Speaker 1: diabetes or obesity, or of course, in my case, the 2374 01:58:35,800 --> 01:58:39,160 Speaker 1: family heart history, which is so important to make sure 2375 01:58:39,160 --> 01:58:41,520 Speaker 1: that you are staying on top of all of it. 2376 01:58:41,960 --> 01:58:44,720 Speaker 1: Eight three three two three eight zero six eight eight 2377 01:58:44,800 --> 01:58:47,000 Speaker 1: is the telephone number eight three three two three eight 2378 01:58:47,160 --> 01:58:51,879 Speaker 1: zero six eight eight or Franciscanhealth dot org slash screening bundles, 2379 01:58:51,920 --> 01:58:55,320 Speaker 1: which I will get you all of that information again 2380 01:58:55,360 --> 01:58:58,360 Speaker 1: in just a moment. You know. In addition to the 2381 01:58:58,400 --> 01:59:01,480 Speaker 1: great work that Franciscan does in the heart, they also 2382 01:59:01,560 --> 01:59:05,520 Speaker 1: have a transplant Optimization program, which is the only program 2383 01:59:05,600 --> 01:59:09,480 Speaker 1: in the state that offers pre transplant therapeutic intervention to 2384 01:59:10,280 --> 01:59:14,000 Speaker 1: before an organ transplant, for example, would need to take place. 2385 01:59:14,080 --> 01:59:17,600 Speaker 1: And they have an Indiana Blood and Marrow Transplantation Center 2386 01:59:17,680 --> 01:59:21,240 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis for Franciscan Health. So when it comes to 2387 01:59:22,160 --> 01:59:25,320 Speaker 1: organ donation, especially from the bone, marrow and stem cell 2388 01:59:25,360 --> 01:59:30,000 Speaker 1: transplantation for blood cancers and other disorders. Again Franciscan another 2389 01:59:30,080 --> 01:59:35,240 Speaker 1: example of where they are so advanced and so committed 2390 01:59:35,320 --> 01:59:39,520 Speaker 1: towards getting a healthier Indiana. And when it comes to 2391 01:59:39,560 --> 01:59:43,040 Speaker 1: Oregon donation, we've talked about it on this show on 2392 01:59:43,160 --> 01:59:45,040 Speaker 1: a number of occasions. I want to tell you about 2393 01:59:45,320 --> 01:59:48,080 Speaker 1: Jackson Grundy, who is a student at North Montgomery High School. 2394 01:59:48,880 --> 01:59:53,480 Speaker 1: And Jackson probably not unlike many of us new kids 2395 01:59:53,520 --> 01:59:56,120 Speaker 1: like this when we were younger, you get into like 2396 01:59:56,200 --> 01:59:58,840 Speaker 1: say fourth or fifth grade, and you start playing sports 2397 01:59:59,080 --> 02:00:03,040 Speaker 1: and you just realized that, gosh, you know, I grew 2398 02:00:03,120 --> 02:00:05,160 Speaker 1: up watching these other athletes that were big and strong 2399 02:00:05,200 --> 02:00:07,160 Speaker 1: and fast, and you're waiting for your body to catch up, 2400 02:00:07,200 --> 02:00:10,640 Speaker 1: so to speak. And in the case of Jackson, he 2401 02:00:10,720 --> 02:00:13,960 Speaker 1: was a smaller kid, and so his dreams of playing 2402 02:00:14,000 --> 02:00:17,560 Speaker 1: some of the different sports maybe weren't coming into reality. 2403 02:00:17,680 --> 02:00:21,600 Speaker 1: He began playing tennis, but his size in general, his 2404 02:00:21,720 --> 02:00:25,080 Speaker 1: parents just wondered what might be the issue, and so 2405 02:00:25,520 --> 02:00:27,120 Speaker 1: they took him to the doctor and at the age 2406 02:00:27,160 --> 02:00:29,680 Speaker 1: of eleven, they found out actually that he was diagnosed 2407 02:00:29,720 --> 02:00:36,120 Speaker 1: with a malfunction within his kidneys, and that was something that, 2408 02:00:36,720 --> 02:00:40,080 Speaker 1: like most you at that age in particular, you start 2409 02:00:40,080 --> 02:00:42,480 Speaker 1: going and seeing the doctor regularly. And for the case 2410 02:00:42,480 --> 02:00:46,440 Speaker 1: of Jackson, probably going and seeing a doctor on the 2411 02:00:46,680 --> 02:00:49,880 Speaker 1: regular basis became the new norm and something that he 2412 02:00:50,000 --> 02:00:52,720 Speaker 1: simply fought through. But at the same time, it didn't 2413 02:00:52,720 --> 02:00:55,240 Speaker 1: stop him from pursuing the things that he wanted to pursue, 2414 02:00:55,760 --> 02:00:58,400 Speaker 1: and one of those was a career playing tennis, for 2415 02:00:58,440 --> 02:01:03,720 Speaker 1: example at North Montgomery, and even that eventually had to 2416 02:01:03,760 --> 02:01:07,120 Speaker 1: take a break. That's because as things got worse, and 2417 02:01:07,160 --> 02:01:10,080 Speaker 1: by the time he was sixteen, when he began going 2418 02:01:10,080 --> 02:01:13,680 Speaker 1: on daily dialysis for his kidneys and the way that 2419 02:01:13,720 --> 02:01:18,200 Speaker 1: they weren't simply weren't functioning, his family realized that the 2420 02:01:18,240 --> 02:01:20,720 Speaker 1: time was there where he did, in fact need an 2421 02:01:20,720 --> 02:01:23,880 Speaker 1: Oregon transplant, and they needed a kidney donation. And of 2422 02:01:23,880 --> 02:01:27,280 Speaker 1: course with the kidneys, you can live with one kidney. 2423 02:01:27,320 --> 02:01:29,400 Speaker 1: So if you are somebody who has two healthy kidneys 2424 02:01:29,440 --> 02:01:32,720 Speaker 1: and someone would be a match for you, you can 2425 02:01:32,880 --> 02:01:35,160 Speaker 1: donate that kidney. Oscar Robertson is one that did that 2426 02:01:35,240 --> 02:01:38,680 Speaker 1: for his daughter. That was fairly well noted, and in 2427 02:01:38,720 --> 02:01:42,800 Speaker 1: the case of Jackson, you know, the word was put 2428 02:01:42,840 --> 02:01:47,040 Speaker 1: out that he needed a kidney transplant in order to 2429 02:01:47,080 --> 02:01:51,040 Speaker 1: be able to live the life of normalcy and at 2430 02:01:51,200 --> 02:01:53,640 Speaker 1: the length that we would hope for any young person. 2431 02:01:54,240 --> 02:01:56,480 Speaker 1: And sure that the tennis career went on hold at 2432 02:01:56,520 --> 02:01:59,840 Speaker 1: that point, but bigger things came into play. And what 2433 02:02:00,040 --> 02:02:04,720 Speaker 1: it's interesting is as the word went out, what happened 2434 02:02:04,800 --> 02:02:07,280 Speaker 1: was it was actually one of his teachers within North 2435 02:02:07,280 --> 02:02:12,760 Speaker 1: Montgomery High School that was the match. And Jackson actually 2436 02:02:12,800 --> 02:02:14,280 Speaker 1: didn't even know it when he went in and found 2437 02:02:14,280 --> 02:02:15,840 Speaker 1: out that that match was there. But it was an 2438 02:02:15,880 --> 02:02:19,480 Speaker 1: English teacher, Daniel Rogers from North Montgomery that was a 2439 02:02:19,520 --> 02:02:22,040 Speaker 1: match who said, yes, I will go ahead and make 2440 02:02:22,560 --> 02:02:28,120 Speaker 1: that donation. And Jackson was able to not only go 2441 02:02:28,200 --> 02:02:32,920 Speaker 1: on and begin his new life within a healthier step 2442 02:02:33,120 --> 02:02:35,400 Speaker 1: along the way, but to be able to do so 2443 02:02:37,240 --> 02:02:42,400 Speaker 1: in the case of this situation, the kindness, the compassion, 2444 02:02:43,040 --> 02:02:46,040 Speaker 1: the dedication from so many people that are in education 2445 02:02:46,160 --> 02:02:50,440 Speaker 1: from a teacher right there within his school. And he 2446 02:02:50,480 --> 02:02:54,400 Speaker 1: also now is returning back to the tennis court and 2447 02:02:54,440 --> 02:02:57,760 Speaker 1: it will be obviously for Jackson a road ahead that 2448 02:02:57,880 --> 02:03:00,200 Speaker 1: is won when you have Oregon donation. And I know 2449 02:03:00,280 --> 02:03:03,400 Speaker 1: this because in working with the Indiana Donor Network and 2450 02:03:03,880 --> 02:03:06,280 Speaker 1: sharing the story about Brian Clausen, you know, I met 2451 02:03:06,280 --> 02:03:10,160 Speaker 1: a gentleman named Danny who had a transplant and he 2452 02:03:10,960 --> 02:03:13,040 Speaker 1: has to routinely go in to make sure that his 2453 02:03:13,120 --> 02:03:16,040 Speaker 1: body is continuing to accept the organ. That's one of 2454 02:03:16,040 --> 02:03:19,800 Speaker 1: the processes of organ transplants and going on the medication 2455 02:03:19,920 --> 02:03:22,200 Speaker 1: to make sure that there is no rejection. And in 2456 02:03:22,280 --> 02:03:23,960 Speaker 1: Danny's case, he had a bit of a scare with 2457 02:03:24,000 --> 02:03:28,120 Speaker 1: that recently, but the good news is it was nothing 2458 02:03:28,160 --> 02:03:30,480 Speaker 1: more than a scare and his body is continuing to 2459 02:03:30,600 --> 02:03:33,040 Speaker 1: accept that new organ. And I think that's going to 2460 02:03:33,040 --> 02:03:36,880 Speaker 1: be the case with Jackson as well, because sometimes even 2461 02:03:36,920 --> 02:03:40,040 Speaker 1: though the kidneys work in a completely different aspect than 2462 02:03:40,080 --> 02:03:43,360 Speaker 1: say the heart, in this Franciscan Health Feel good good 2463 02:03:43,360 --> 02:03:45,800 Speaker 1: for the Heart Friday, we see a story where it 2464 02:03:45,880 --> 02:03:48,640 Speaker 1: was the heart of somebody else that allowed them to 2465 02:03:48,640 --> 02:03:51,520 Speaker 1: make that donation for the kidney. So Jackson, we say 2466 02:03:52,200 --> 02:03:56,520 Speaker 1: best of luck to you. We say congratulations, as odd 2467 02:03:56,520 --> 02:03:59,560 Speaker 1: as that sounds, on your perseverance, and we look forward 2468 02:03:59,600 --> 02:04:01,200 Speaker 1: to seeing what you were able to do back on 2469 02:04:01,240 --> 02:04:04,800 Speaker 1: the tennis court at North Montgomery, and I wish the 2470 02:04:04,920 --> 02:04:07,600 Speaker 1: very best for that. Also on a personal level, two 2471 02:04:07,680 --> 02:04:09,560 Speaker 1: things that I wanted to share on this day that 2472 02:04:09,680 --> 02:04:14,640 Speaker 1: makes it a great Friday. A great Friday I mentioned 2473 02:04:14,680 --> 02:04:17,000 Speaker 1: earlier with Stephanie White, and I've made mention to it 2474 02:04:17,040 --> 02:04:20,360 Speaker 1: on a few occasions on this show that in July 2475 02:04:20,760 --> 02:04:24,840 Speaker 1: my father suffered two strokes and his heart history is 2476 02:04:24,880 --> 02:04:26,960 Speaker 1: one that I've been aware of it. I'm so keenly 2477 02:04:27,040 --> 02:04:29,440 Speaker 1: aware of it, which is, you know, part of why 2478 02:04:29,480 --> 02:04:32,400 Speaker 1: this particular segment of the radio show is so important 2479 02:04:32,400 --> 02:04:35,880 Speaker 1: to me, and in the case of my father, it 2480 02:04:35,920 --> 02:04:39,200 Speaker 1: has been. And we're very fortunate. We're very fortunate in 2481 02:04:39,240 --> 02:04:42,720 Speaker 1: the fact that you know, cognitively the two strokes that 2482 02:04:42,760 --> 02:04:46,120 Speaker 1: he had did not have significant impact on him, but 2483 02:04:46,240 --> 02:04:50,560 Speaker 1: physically speaking, it did. And it's been a long road. 2484 02:04:50,720 --> 02:04:52,720 Speaker 1: It's been a long journey. It still is a long 2485 02:04:52,760 --> 02:04:56,000 Speaker 1: one to go, no question. But during the course of 2486 02:04:56,080 --> 02:05:01,600 Speaker 1: the show today, my sister sent a picture, my oldest sister, 2487 02:05:01,640 --> 02:05:04,240 Speaker 1: who has been the rock and all of this to 2488 02:05:04,320 --> 02:05:06,800 Speaker 1: the rest of my family, that my dad was able 2489 02:05:06,840 --> 02:05:14,000 Speaker 1: to transfer today from his chair to his bed. He 2490 02:05:14,080 --> 02:05:16,480 Speaker 1: was able to do so standing up without the assistance 2491 02:05:16,480 --> 02:05:21,800 Speaker 1: of the machines. And that sounds so basic, but it's not. 2492 02:05:22,400 --> 02:05:25,200 Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, like that's those are the little journeys, 2493 02:05:25,240 --> 02:05:27,800 Speaker 1: those are the little victories that you look for. And 2494 02:05:27,880 --> 02:05:29,720 Speaker 1: I don't mean to get emotional about it, but it is. 2495 02:05:29,760 --> 02:05:31,760 Speaker 1: And it's something so small, right I mean, it's something 2496 02:05:31,800 --> 02:05:34,120 Speaker 1: so small in that case, but I know how hard 2497 02:05:34,160 --> 02:05:36,880 Speaker 1: he's worked, and I know how hard people work for it, 2498 02:05:36,920 --> 02:05:40,240 Speaker 1: and so that is its own victory today. And I 2499 02:05:40,360 --> 02:05:42,040 Speaker 1: just got that about an hour ago when we were 2500 02:05:42,080 --> 02:05:44,760 Speaker 1: on the air. My sister sent that photo. And I 2501 02:05:44,840 --> 02:05:48,080 Speaker 1: know what that means for my dad in particular, to 2502 02:05:48,120 --> 02:05:50,680 Speaker 1: be able to do something even that small, but those 2503 02:05:50,720 --> 02:05:52,960 Speaker 1: little steps, and Jackson is going to go through those 2504 02:05:52,960 --> 02:05:54,960 Speaker 1: little steps as well and getting his swing back right. 2505 02:05:55,760 --> 02:05:57,720 Speaker 1: The other thing I wanted to pass along having nothing 2506 02:05:57,720 --> 02:05:59,240 Speaker 1: to do with the heart, but it does to an 2507 02:05:59,280 --> 02:06:02,600 Speaker 1: extent my buddy Mike Byron who Eddie, as you know, 2508 02:06:02,640 --> 02:06:04,320 Speaker 1: he's the guy I go on trips with it forgets 2509 02:06:04,360 --> 02:06:08,240 Speaker 1: everything right, Miss Keith the wallet, Yeah, Mike. I mean 2510 02:06:08,280 --> 02:06:10,600 Speaker 1: Byron is a is an absent minded guy, no question 2511 02:06:10,640 --> 02:06:11,080 Speaker 1: about it. 2512 02:06:11,160 --> 02:06:15,000 Speaker 2: But last trip, if it was you though, that's right, 2513 02:06:15,040 --> 02:06:15,400 Speaker 2: I did. 2514 02:06:15,440 --> 02:06:19,080 Speaker 1: Actually I left my wallet behind wallet and my keys, 2515 02:06:19,120 --> 02:06:21,600 Speaker 1: I think when I was with Byron. But Byron today 2516 02:06:21,600 --> 02:06:23,160 Speaker 1: and I didn't even know this was going to take place, 2517 02:06:23,200 --> 02:06:25,880 Speaker 1: but again over the course of the show today he 2518 02:06:26,000 --> 02:06:31,160 Speaker 1: sent this. Mike is in his second marriage and the 2519 02:06:31,200 --> 02:06:34,360 Speaker 1: woman that he married, Anne Marie, who's great is a 2520 02:06:34,400 --> 02:06:38,880 Speaker 1: widow and she has children of her own, including a 2521 02:06:38,920 --> 02:06:44,080 Speaker 1: young boy, Cole, and Cole lost his father at a 2522 02:06:44,160 --> 02:06:47,880 Speaker 1: very young age, and his father, Jason, passed away, and 2523 02:06:47,920 --> 02:06:51,320 Speaker 1: so therefore Mike goes into a situation where he has 2524 02:06:51,360 --> 02:06:53,680 Speaker 1: a step son once he and a Marie were married, 2525 02:06:54,200 --> 02:06:57,920 Speaker 1: and Cole is a great kid, and he and Mike 2526 02:06:57,960 --> 02:07:00,680 Speaker 1: have had a very special bond, no question about that. 2527 02:07:01,320 --> 02:07:03,560 Speaker 1: And in no way, shape or form would Mike or Anne, 2528 02:07:03,600 --> 02:07:06,760 Speaker 1: Marie or even Cole expect that this means that it 2529 02:07:06,880 --> 02:07:13,280 Speaker 1: is replacing the legacy, the love, the commitment that Jason 2530 02:07:13,360 --> 02:07:17,560 Speaker 1: had for Cole. But with Jason passing away and then 2531 02:07:17,600 --> 02:07:21,160 Speaker 1: Mike coming into the picture, I don't know whether it 2532 02:07:21,200 --> 02:07:23,120 Speaker 1: was Cole that requested it or whether it was Mike 2533 02:07:23,160 --> 02:07:24,920 Speaker 1: that simply had the discussion, but I know in the 2534 02:07:24,960 --> 02:07:26,880 Speaker 1: times that I talked to Byron and the things that 2535 02:07:26,920 --> 02:07:29,400 Speaker 1: he does with Cole and taking him to ballgames and 2536 02:07:29,440 --> 02:07:34,760 Speaker 1: practices and whatever else. Today, Cole became Cole Alan Fraser 2537 02:07:35,000 --> 02:07:38,360 Speaker 1: Byron by combining the two last names, because Mike adopted 2538 02:07:38,400 --> 02:07:42,400 Speaker 1: him officially as his father now and again, not to 2539 02:07:42,480 --> 02:07:44,920 Speaker 1: take the place of Jason, but rather to carry on 2540 02:07:45,960 --> 02:07:48,640 Speaker 1: the duty that Jason would have liked. And I can 2541 02:07:48,680 --> 02:07:50,839 Speaker 1: tell you that while I did not know Jason Fraser, 2542 02:07:51,680 --> 02:07:54,160 Speaker 1: there would be no one better to carry on the 2543 02:07:54,200 --> 02:07:58,560 Speaker 1: paternal legacy than what Mike will do so little victories 2544 02:07:58,600 --> 02:08:00,320 Speaker 1: in their own right today. Thank you, Thank you for 2545 02:08:00,360 --> 02:08:03,520 Speaker 1: working through that with me. And those are the things 2546 02:08:03,560 --> 02:08:06,320 Speaker 1: that are so important, just in terms of whether it 2547 02:08:06,440 --> 02:08:09,680 Speaker 1: be the medical function of your heart or the spirit 2548 02:08:09,760 --> 02:08:11,840 Speaker 1: of your heart. The heart is so important and that's 2549 02:08:11,840 --> 02:08:14,240 Speaker 1: why Franciscan Health and their forty nine dollars heart scan 2550 02:08:14,760 --> 02:08:17,320 Speaker 1: is such an important thing. Eight three three two three 2551 02:08:17,400 --> 02:08:21,400 Speaker 1: eight zero six eight eight is the telephone number Franciscanhealth 2552 02:08:21,440 --> 02:08:27,440 Speaker 1: dot org slash screening bundles. One of my favorite spots. 2553 02:08:29,080 --> 02:08:31,160 Speaker 1: Some would say so bro I don't I just say 2554 02:08:31,160 --> 02:08:33,080 Speaker 1: Broader Bowl, North Side, whatever you want to call it. 2555 02:08:33,120 --> 02:08:35,480 Speaker 1: Binkley's one of the best spots you're gonna find on 2556 02:08:35,520 --> 02:08:37,720 Speaker 1: the North Side. They've got they got a great like 2557 02:08:37,760 --> 02:08:40,160 Speaker 1: kind of a backbar, they have a fabulous menu, and 2558 02:08:40,200 --> 02:08:42,720 Speaker 1: they have JMV there today. Who is going to be 2559 02:08:42,760 --> 02:08:46,240 Speaker 1: there for getting everything set up for the weekend of football, 2560 02:08:46,280 --> 02:08:49,640 Speaker 1: including the Colts and Raiders coming up Lucas Oil Stadium 2561 02:08:49,640 --> 02:08:55,200 Speaker 1: on Sunday, John, great location for you. Do we have John? 2562 02:08:57,880 --> 02:09:01,320 Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, hold on now now the guys 2563 02:09:01,320 --> 02:09:03,760 Speaker 1: from Love Eating and Air Love dash HVAC dot com 2564 02:09:03,800 --> 02:09:06,800 Speaker 1: three one seven three five three twenty one. Uh they 2565 02:09:06,880 --> 02:09:09,720 Speaker 1: probably they, matter of fact, Chris Love maybe over there 2566 02:09:09,720 --> 02:09:11,320 Speaker 1: at Binkley's right now. I don't know, but one of 2567 02:09:11,360 --> 02:09:13,320 Speaker 1: them probably just sent me a text like, wait, did 2568 02:09:13,400 --> 02:09:17,560 Speaker 1: John just drop his headsets? Johnny there, I'm here, buddy, 2569 02:09:17,640 --> 02:09:19,400 Speaker 1: Sorry about that. That's okay? 2570 02:09:19,480 --> 02:09:19,720 Speaker 9: Did you? 2571 02:09:19,920 --> 02:09:22,960 Speaker 8: Heyah, Hey Eddie, you didn't pick up any of that conversation. 2572 02:09:23,000 --> 02:09:24,320 Speaker 8: I was just having this yet. 2573 02:09:24,440 --> 02:09:27,920 Speaker 9: No good see that is That's one hell of a 2574 02:09:27,960 --> 02:09:29,320 Speaker 9: producer you got there, Jake. 2575 02:09:29,360 --> 02:09:32,000 Speaker 8: And no, that's true because. 2576 02:09:32,080 --> 02:09:35,360 Speaker 9: Would you like to just on the conversation, but James 2577 02:09:35,360 --> 02:09:39,800 Speaker 9: probably would be documenting every word I just said for redistribution. 2578 02:09:41,120 --> 02:09:43,160 Speaker 1: Uh. Bankley's is awesome, man. 2579 02:09:43,120 --> 02:09:47,000 Speaker 8: Yeah, it is awesome. You know what, I've been here before, Jake. 2580 02:09:47,080 --> 02:09:49,320 Speaker 9: I've never done a live show here, so this is 2581 02:09:49,440 --> 02:09:52,120 Speaker 9: like new ground for me doing a live show. 2582 02:09:52,440 --> 02:09:55,080 Speaker 8: But I've been here before. Courtney is the owner. We're 2583 02:09:55,120 --> 02:09:56,880 Speaker 8: going to talk to Courtney a little bit later on. 2584 02:09:57,360 --> 02:10:00,520 Speaker 9: But there are very few locations that are as unique 2585 02:10:00,600 --> 02:10:01,880 Speaker 9: Jake as Binkley's here. 2586 02:10:02,360 --> 02:10:05,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great spot. I mean it has been 2587 02:10:05,080 --> 02:10:07,800 Speaker 1: for a long time. And you got plenty to talk 2588 02:10:07,800 --> 02:10:10,600 Speaker 1: about as well, because not only obviously Colts and Raiders, 2589 02:10:10,600 --> 02:10:13,880 Speaker 1: but plenty it unpacked big weekend of college football as well, 2590 02:10:13,880 --> 02:10:15,160 Speaker 1: which lined up on the Big Show. 2591 02:10:16,000 --> 02:10:19,120 Speaker 9: Well, we got I'm sure Mike Wells is back. Actually, 2592 02:10:19,240 --> 02:10:21,840 Speaker 9: I take that back. Mike is not on today, I 2593 02:10:21,880 --> 02:10:24,120 Speaker 9: don't think so. We got Joel a Ericson who comes 2594 02:10:24,120 --> 02:10:26,400 Speaker 9: on every Friday now because he's first in Joel on 2595 02:10:26,440 --> 02:10:30,960 Speaker 9: Fox fifty nine. Hagen's normally here. Hagen is not here today. 2596 02:10:32,400 --> 02:10:34,760 Speaker 9: And we got Don Fisher voice of the Hoosiers, Bob 2597 02:10:34,880 --> 02:10:37,960 Speaker 9: Lovell as well. To get everybody set for the Raiders 2598 02:10:38,520 --> 02:10:41,600 Speaker 9: and the Colts. Now, I had Lindsey Monroe was all 2599 02:10:41,680 --> 02:10:45,000 Speaker 9: of me yesterday and she propped up you guys coming 2600 02:10:45,080 --> 02:10:47,240 Speaker 9: up tomorrow for what is going to be the start 2601 02:10:47,240 --> 02:10:48,520 Speaker 9: of I guess October Fest. 2602 02:10:48,680 --> 02:10:52,160 Speaker 1: Let's go, baby, I'm telling you yeah, tomorrow from noon 2603 02:10:52,280 --> 02:10:54,400 Speaker 1: until four right in front of the Anthony, and we're 2604 02:10:54,440 --> 02:10:57,080 Speaker 1: going to be there for I think they'll call it 2605 02:10:57,120 --> 02:10:59,760 Speaker 1: German Fest now. But the Wiener Dog Races or the 2606 02:10:59,760 --> 02:11:02,520 Speaker 1: Core got on Corgi races whatever. I just simply say 2607 02:11:02,520 --> 02:11:05,040 Speaker 1: the wiinardog racist. But it is the absolute best. And 2608 02:11:05,080 --> 02:11:07,360 Speaker 1: this is like, it's got to be five or six 2609 02:11:07,440 --> 02:11:08,880 Speaker 1: years in a row that lindsay and I've done it. 2610 02:11:08,920 --> 02:11:10,720 Speaker 1: We love it. Now. 2611 02:11:10,840 --> 02:11:13,360 Speaker 9: Did you ever play basketball when they had a basketball 2612 02:11:13,400 --> 02:11:14,520 Speaker 9: court in the Anthonym? 2613 02:11:14,760 --> 02:11:16,560 Speaker 1: No? And I wish I couldn't you know that? Oh 2614 02:11:17,360 --> 02:11:19,520 Speaker 1: I wish that would have been the best, man, I've 2615 02:11:19,560 --> 02:11:20,320 Speaker 1: played a task. 2616 02:11:20,360 --> 02:11:23,560 Speaker 9: It reminds me of like like York, New York City, 2617 02:11:23,920 --> 02:11:27,160 Speaker 9: totally like an inner city type of basketball court and 2618 02:11:27,240 --> 02:11:28,000 Speaker 9: a small space. 2619 02:11:28,040 --> 02:11:29,440 Speaker 8: It was awesome. 2620 02:11:29,520 --> 02:11:32,600 Speaker 9: I went one on one full court a number of 2621 02:11:32,640 --> 02:11:35,720 Speaker 9: times when I worked at Channel thirteen on a Saturday 2622 02:11:35,760 --> 02:11:39,320 Speaker 9: morning when I finished with Mark Barnheiser, whose son Brooks 2623 02:11:39,360 --> 02:11:42,960 Speaker 9: Barnheiser plays for OKC now and he's the head coach 2624 02:11:43,000 --> 02:11:43,800 Speaker 9: of Lafia Jeff. 2625 02:11:43,800 --> 02:11:46,000 Speaker 8: We went one on one full court in there all 2626 02:11:46,360 --> 02:11:46,800 Speaker 8: the time. 2627 02:11:47,040 --> 02:11:51,120 Speaker 1: Now, the Tabernacle has a gym like that where you 2628 02:11:51,200 --> 02:11:53,280 Speaker 1: feel like you're playing in the Chicago club or the 2629 02:11:53,320 --> 02:11:55,560 Speaker 1: you know, the New York or the Chicago like public leagues, right, 2630 02:11:55,600 --> 02:11:58,520 Speaker 1: which is awesome. Yeah, would you remember the scene in 2631 02:11:58,600 --> 02:12:03,840 Speaker 1: Rounders when when Edward Norton's character was hiding out. 2632 02:12:04,080 --> 02:12:06,560 Speaker 9: Yes, and he was in that gym. That's exactly what 2633 02:12:06,600 --> 02:12:08,600 Speaker 9: the Anthon A and Jim reminded me of. 2634 02:12:08,760 --> 02:12:12,000 Speaker 1: That's that's like tab now the other one. There's a 2635 02:12:12,000 --> 02:12:14,720 Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know this, John. This is 2636 02:12:14,880 --> 02:12:17,000 Speaker 1: a benefit to where we work, but at the same 2637 02:12:17,040 --> 02:12:19,720 Speaker 1: time a challenge. There is technically a basketball court in 2638 02:12:19,720 --> 02:12:22,240 Speaker 1: the basement of this building, but it's like eight foot ceilings. 2639 02:12:22,280 --> 02:12:23,760 Speaker 1: And I don't know about you, but I can't shoot. 2640 02:12:25,160 --> 02:12:27,040 Speaker 8: Hey, can I share something with you right now? You 2641 02:12:27,040 --> 02:12:28,400 Speaker 8: think we'll get in trouble for this, Jake. 2642 02:12:29,400 --> 02:12:34,480 Speaker 9: So it's two fifty three and our program directors calling 2643 02:12:34,560 --> 02:12:39,120 Speaker 9: me right now, two fifty three and we're together, and 2644 02:12:39,360 --> 02:12:41,280 Speaker 9: our program directors call me right now? 2645 02:12:41,520 --> 02:12:43,200 Speaker 8: Do you think he just lost track of time? 2646 02:12:46,240 --> 02:12:46,720 Speaker 1: Possibly? 2647 02:12:48,960 --> 02:12:50,400 Speaker 8: Maybe you should answer it? 2648 02:12:50,560 --> 02:12:52,080 Speaker 1: Answer it? Can you answer it? 2649 02:12:52,120 --> 02:12:55,560 Speaker 8: Make sure we're still doing the show? No, man, Well, 2650 02:12:55,600 --> 02:12:57,480 Speaker 8: I could say, hey, man, what are you doing? We're 2651 02:12:57,520 --> 02:12:59,640 Speaker 8: doing the crossover brought to you by Love Eating an 2652 02:12:59,600 --> 02:13:00,200 Speaker 8: air right now. 2653 02:13:00,400 --> 02:13:02,640 Speaker 9: Nah, I wouldn't want to make him feel bad, which 2654 02:13:03,040 --> 02:13:05,520 Speaker 9: is probably exactly what I'm doing right now by saying 2655 02:13:05,560 --> 02:13:08,000 Speaker 9: this on the air. But no, I go hey, man, 2656 02:13:08,520 --> 02:13:11,520 Speaker 9: we're on the air right now doing the crossover, so 2657 02:13:11,600 --> 02:13:13,800 Speaker 9: now it's it's pretty funny. He normally does, Jake, I 2658 02:13:13,840 --> 02:13:16,600 Speaker 9: will say this, and the crossover with Love Eating Ears 2659 02:13:16,760 --> 02:13:20,320 Speaker 9: is a little bit still fresh and new. But he 2660 02:13:20,400 --> 02:13:22,880 Speaker 9: normally calls me on Fridays at this time anyway, so 2661 02:13:23,040 --> 02:13:26,080 Speaker 9: there's nothing really really new. But I found it funny. 2662 02:13:26,720 --> 02:13:32,120 Speaker 1: All right? Well, as did you? Did you make sure hey, 2663 02:13:32,120 --> 02:13:36,680 Speaker 1: don't lump me into this. Come on now, don't bring 2664 02:13:36,720 --> 02:13:38,680 Speaker 1: me into it. I made it this far this week. 2665 02:13:38,680 --> 02:13:42,160 Speaker 9: Come on now right, Wait a minute, now, my producer's 2666 02:13:42,240 --> 02:13:42,640 Speaker 9: calling me. 2667 02:13:42,760 --> 02:13:48,960 Speaker 8: James. Hey, Eddie, man, would you tell James when I'm 2668 02:13:49,000 --> 02:13:52,040 Speaker 8: talking right now? What hey? Am I saying something wrong? 2669 02:13:52,120 --> 02:13:54,720 Speaker 8: Am I doing something wrong? But is he not? Is 2670 02:13:54,800 --> 02:13:56,400 Speaker 8: James not even in the studio yet? 2671 02:13:56,480 --> 02:13:58,320 Speaker 1: I haven't seen James. I don't know why he's not either. 2672 02:13:58,480 --> 02:14:03,120 Speaker 1: He's probably maybe maybe maybe they might have been calling 2673 02:14:03,160 --> 02:14:05,320 Speaker 1: to find out who can actually produce for you here. 2674 02:14:05,440 --> 02:14:06,880 Speaker 1: Maybe that's what it is, righty? 2675 02:14:07,200 --> 02:14:10,440 Speaker 8: Can you ay Eddie when James comes in there? Say now, 2676 02:14:10,520 --> 02:14:16,680 Speaker 8: Jake's calling me? Hey, wait, which James Boyd get a 2677 02:14:16,760 --> 02:14:18,960 Speaker 8: call it? James Boyd to Kevin boy Gonna call me 2678 02:14:19,000 --> 02:14:19,560 Speaker 8: in a little bit. 2679 02:14:19,840 --> 02:14:22,360 Speaker 1: Those guys are napping, man, they've been up since seven 2680 02:14:22,360 --> 02:14:26,040 Speaker 1: o'clock this morning. All right, colts, raiders will get score predictions. 2681 02:14:26,040 --> 02:14:27,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go right here by the way, twenty nine 2682 02:14:27,720 --> 02:14:31,080 Speaker 1: twenty four colts, eddie your thoughts thirty three to twenty colts. 2683 02:14:31,160 --> 02:14:33,720 Speaker 1: All right, John will have his prediction later. He will 2684 02:14:33,760 --> 02:14:36,520 Speaker 1: get you all set for the weekend. Joel Ericson on 2685 02:14:36,720 --> 02:14:39,640 Speaker 1: as well tomorrow at the Anthonyum. John, we will throw 2686 02:14:39,680 --> 02:14:41,480 Speaker 1: it to you here in just a minute. Lindsay Monroe 2687 02:14:41,480 --> 02:14:43,680 Speaker 1: and I will be out doing the Winard dog races. 2688 02:14:43,680 --> 02:14:46,640 Speaker 1: Come by and say hi for German Fest. In the meantime, 2689 02:14:46,720 --> 02:14:48,960 Speaker 1: have a wonderful weekend and enjoy listening to John and 2690 02:14:49,040 --> 02:14:50,880 Speaker 1: I appreciate you listening to Quarrying Company