1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: This Saturday noon noon this Saturday, ross Aid Stadium up 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: in West Lafayette. I'll tell you what the and I 3 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: would assume one of these will change. Certainly, the Bucket 4 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: game on Friday after Thanksgiving is going to be awesome 5 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: because that is a night game. But if you get 6 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: a chance to go to a night game at ross Aid, 7 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: I love it. I think it is just a great atmosphere. 8 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: It's such a cool stadium. I love everything about it. 9 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: Tom Deanhart joining us now Golden Black to talk about 10 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: Purdueing Tom, I'll get right to this question, and that is, 11 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: do we have any better idea of what the twenty 12 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: twenty five pretty boiler Makers are going to look like 13 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: then we did, say six weeks ago. 14 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: If you could see me right now, Jay can see 15 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:50,959 Speaker 2: me shrugging my shoulders. 16 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 3: Buddy, Yeah, I don't know. 17 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: I wish I knew. I wish I could tell you 18 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: I knew, but I'd be lying if I said I knew. 19 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: I'm you know, coach who was gracious with his access 20 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 2: during camp. We could watch all the practices, but you know, 21 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 2: you want to believe what you see. But you know, 22 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: as we all know, we got to actually get a 23 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 2: look at these guys against somebody else to get a 24 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 2: real evaluation. So that's coming soon enough. It's going to 25 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 2: be a beautiful day. I think the weatherways you're in 26 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 2: Weston sadly to at high noon. 27 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: Okay, how about this, because I totally agree with you 28 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 1: in the fact that when when you have the high 29 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: number of and for those that don't know, you know, 30 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: obviously Purdue had a coaching change. They bringing Barry Odom 31 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: who comes in from UNLV. The track record would indicate 32 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: that they're going to be a very good in terms 33 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,279 Speaker 1: of a disciplined football team. They're not going to wow 34 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: you with. This is not Joe Tiller coming in with 35 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: an offense that blows everybody away. This is not, you know, 36 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: some sort of groundbreaking style and system. Rather it is 37 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: just wear you down, grind it out, tough discipline football. 38 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: At least that's the blueprint. Having said that, do you 39 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: have an idea We don't know how good they're going 40 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: to be from a personnel standpoint, but schematically speaking, Tom, 41 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: do we have a better idea of what brand of 42 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: football you are going to see game in and game 43 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: out or is it pretty much what I just described? 44 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 2: I think you kind of hit the nail on the head. Hard, 45 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 2: smart and tough, And anybody who's heard Bury them speak 46 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 2: knows that's his mantra. Hard, smart and tough. When we 47 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 2: talked to him in December, shortly after he was hired, 48 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 2: he mentioned that he wants to run the football and 49 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: be physical. So no shock there. I think that fits 50 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 2: his personality. He's a defensive coach, and again, I think 51 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 2: being physical on offense is important. They went to the portal, 52 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 2: got a lot bigger on the offensive line, got a 53 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 2: lot deeper. So I think that that's Wheally wanted to start. 54 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 2: And Jake, I think that's for most offenses want to 55 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 2: start his running the football, but for Barry Olm in particular, 56 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 2: I think being physical way the line of scrimmage is 57 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 2: job number one the offense. 58 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: Let me tell you my concern Tom, and then I 59 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: want you to tell me in your time being around, 60 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: especially in the Big Ten, if I'm wrong here, Okay, 61 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,399 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five in college football, when I look 62 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: at the teams and I know that Purdue is not 63 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 1: immediately saying hey, we got to do what we can 64 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: to you know, paul A, Kurt Signetti and get into 65 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: the college football playoff in year one. I mean, there's 66 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: so many things that just oddly have to go into. 67 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 3: Place for that. 68 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: But if you look at like even in the big 69 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: ten Ohio State, you know, Michigan to an extent, Penn 70 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,399 Speaker 1: State to an extent, I think so much of success 71 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: in college football today is about speed in space and 72 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: the era of three yards and a cloud of dust 73 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: or lineup across and just overall out grit people. My 74 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: fear is that that could be antiquated. Tell me I'm wrong. 75 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: No, it's a it's a sport. You know, I grew 76 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: up in the seventies and eighties, and then those are 77 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 2: the heydays, the running backs, you know, all the number 78 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: thirty twos, you know, with Franco Harris and the guys 79 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 2: like Lydell Mitchell. I mean, just just a great fleft 80 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 2: of running backs. And when we've seen this become a 81 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 2: quarterbacks game in a wide receivers game in the last 82 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: what ten or fifteen twenty years, So you're right, quarterback centric, 83 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 2: passing centric. You talked about getting players in space, letting 84 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 2: them do their things. That sort of describes basketball in 85 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: rast by Joe Tiller. You know, a revolutionary concept that 86 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 2: really caught the conference by storm. And yeah, so we'll 87 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: see Barry Youngs, I guess zigging when everybody else is zagging, 88 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: so to speak. Don't get me wrong, I think he 89 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 2: wants to pass the football, and he will pass the football. 90 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 2: But I still think they want to say tether of 91 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 2: that ground game being physical, and I guess we have 92 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 2: to wait to see if indeed you can't win at 93 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 2: a consistent level playing that brand of football in the 94 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 2: Big Ten. 95 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: When you talk about, you know, passing the football or 96 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: just what he you know, there are so many times, 97 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: so many transfers that have come in, and this roster 98 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: looks so new throughout the form of the preseas he's 99 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: in here and watching them practice, or in perhaps just 100 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: when coach Otum speaks. Is there a player or two 101 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: that jump out at you where you say, I don't 102 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: know how good Purdue is going to be, but this 103 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: guy's going to be fun to watch this year. 104 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 2: I think it's that's an easy one. Number two Michael Jackson. Yes, 105 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 2: they have a player named Michael Jackson. I think he's 106 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: going to be their best wide receiver. If you wanted 107 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 2: to pick a star training camp, I think he'd be 108 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 2: the guy you would go with a transfer from Georgia 109 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 2: who spent most of his career at USC so produce 110 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 2: his third school. But he's a guy that's really turned 111 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 2: a lot aheads and that that's going to be your 112 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,559 Speaker 2: alpha receiver. I think to begin the year at least 113 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: there's a kid from Northern Indiana here, another Georgia transfer, 114 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 2: Nitro Tuggle from Napanee up in that part of the state. 115 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 2: Everybody's excited about. And I think in time maybe he 116 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 2: could be that real deep threat they're looking for. So 117 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 2: I think they do have some weapons. And now we 118 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 2: have Ryan Brown, Right, can Ryan Brown take that next step, 119 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 2: that next evolution in the quarterback? He's got the intangibles. Certainly, 120 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 2: we'll see if he's really improved as a passer or not. 121 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, the when you look at improvement for a passer 122 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: at the college game, and you know, Brown comes out 123 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: of I think he's from Michigan if I'm not mistaken, right, So, 124 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 1: and he's got the size. He definitely has good size. 125 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: But is it is it timing or is it actual 126 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 1: precision of ball delivery that has been so far the 127 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: thing that has prohibited him from really taking that next step, 128 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: if that makes sense. 129 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 2: I think it's always accuracy. Becoming more accurate has been 130 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 2: the issue. That's usually the issue for all quarterbacks, still developing, 131 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: and that comes with time. So he's at his moments 132 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 2: in camp. There's no doubt about it. Six foot four, 133 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 2: two hundred and fifteen pounds, and he can run. Jake, 134 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 2: He's going to be a big part of the ground game, 135 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 2: I think, not just from improvising and extent he played 136 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 2: with his feet, but from some cold runs as well. 137 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 2: So he Uh, he's a guy I think that can 138 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: decent things with his feet, and I think he's on. 139 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 2: Like I said, it's coming along as well. So yeah, 140 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 2: and they may have some weapons here of course running 141 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 2: back Maccaby's back. You know, maybe the best players are 142 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 2: tied in George Burn from Mount Burning, Indiana, who may 143 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: not play coming off a spring injury. He's a terrific player. 144 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 2: I think they want to make sure he's totally healed 145 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: up and ready to go. So I'm guessing we're not 146 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 2: going to see him sadly, nor maybe even in southern Illinois. 147 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 3: So we'll see. 148 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 2: But again, number eighty one, George Burn, the cornerback, the 149 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 2: tight end I should say, is a terrific player, and 150 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 2: I think he's going to have to be a star 151 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 2: if he wants this offense to really go. 152 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: Listen, I love Devin Moccaby, Tom Tom Dean Hard our 153 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: guests from Golden Black. I love him because not only 154 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: does he seem like a really nice young man when 155 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: I've heard him interviewed, and I think we've had him 156 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: on here before as well, and John's had him on, 157 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: but his running style. I just love the fact that 158 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: the Rundown Hill I am afraid of no one's style 159 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: of run for maccaby, and I think what has hurt 160 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: him at times is everyone knew that was the way 161 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: for Purdue to move the chains, and so you could 162 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: hone in on it a little bit. If they can 163 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: get some offensive flexibility that opens up some lanes for him, 164 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: he could have a not that he hasn't already, but 165 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: he could really have a big year this year, wouldn't 166 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: you agree? 167 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's about eleven hundred and twelve hundred yards away 168 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 2: from the coming the all time meaning the rusher here 169 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 2: and and you're riding about his character. I'm just as 170 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 2: a kid, as the kind of guy who wanted your 171 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: young ass. You's your son just a triff individual, devoid 172 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 2: of ego. Man, Jake, there you stand next to Devin 173 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 2: Mockaby and you wouldn't even know he's a football player. 174 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 2: He's just really not physically imposing either. He has gotten bigger, 175 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 2: but he's got that knack under the ball. Anybody who 176 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: watches has seen it, and uh, yeah, this is his 177 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 2: last goal around third head coach has played for, so 178 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 2: he's going to be fun to watch as well. And yeah, 179 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 2: he's you know, they can't totally mean on maccabee because 180 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 2: I think he's still a little bit slight. So that's 181 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 2: why that that's what that air game you're talking about 182 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 2: could maybe create some ground space for him to operate 183 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 2: on if the defenses really have to respect the possible 184 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 2: to getting beat over the top of the deep pass. 185 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: It all gets underway. Saturday going to be a beautiful 186 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: day ross Aid and West Lafayette, It is Purdue and 187 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: Ball State, and then it is Southern Illinois in week 188 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: number two. Tom appreciate the time as always and look 189 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: forward to talking to you over the course of the 190 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,599 Speaker 1: season and hopefully is one where produce surprises fee but 191 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: we shall see it. But I certainly look forward to 192 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: talking to you. 193 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 2: I hope to see down here, I should say, up here, 194 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 2: and maybe maybe you'll be up for doing shout one 195 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 2: time here. I'm going to the fourth quarter. 196 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:29,599 Speaker 1: Love it, I'm telling you I did. Last year. I 197 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: went for the Oregon game, stayed for that and that 198 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: was the highlight of the night. Unfortunately I met the 199 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: doc that was cool too. But I love it up there, Tom, 200 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: We will see up there, Thank you, sir. 201 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: Be good. 202 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: All right, Tom dean Hart from Golden Black College Football 203 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: getting underway. We have talked a lot about the slaty games, 204 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: including some big ones taking place on Saturday. But to 205 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: kind of get everything kicked off here locally, I mentioned 206 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: earlier there are two schools in the Indianapolis area that 207 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: are scholarship football programs. One one is ranked fifteenth to 208 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: begin the Division two College Football rankings, talking about the 209 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,359 Speaker 1: University of Indianapolis. The other one starts out the NAIA 210 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: rankings where they are always nationally ranked and competitive at 211 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: twenty third. Talking about the Marion Knights. And they get 212 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: underway and Tussel tomorrow night at six h five at 213 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: Ascension Saint Vincent Field over on the near west side 214 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: of Indianapolis and joining us now on the guest line 215 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: to talk about that and more. The head football coach 216 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: of the Marion Knights, Ted krish Junior, joins the program. Coach, 217 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: how are you. 218 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 3: Doing good here, Jake? Exciting times on the West side. 219 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: Indeed, I'll tell you what I and I love it 220 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: because this time of year and mother nature cooperated perfectly 221 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: because all of a sudden, like in the last week, 222 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: the temperature just dropped to that little slight crisp in 223 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: the air, and so you know, it's football season, right 224 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: And I know from a coaching standpoint, you're always thinking 225 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: football season, but you know, this time of year is 226 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,839 Speaker 1: always fascinating because you're just trying to find out your 227 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: roster and who you are and where you've come from 228 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: a year ago. Where are you guys right now in 229 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: terms of where you'd like to be going into week 230 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: number one? If that makes sense, it does. 231 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 3: Book it back to the weather. 232 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 4: Thank goodness that the weather broke a little bit, because 233 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 4: we truly had to improvise and adapt during our training camp, 234 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 4: moving off campus on numerous occasions. But the guys got 235 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 4: it done and we got some good work in so 236 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 4: where I'd like to be. You know, first games are 237 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 4: always scary. I like to be you know, obviously when 238 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 4: the football game and play really well, but you know, 239 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 4: you never know. In Week one and we're going to 240 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 4: be playing quite a few new guys, I'm really excited 241 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 4: to see, you know, how they perform. And we also 242 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 4: have a lot of good veterans that have proven themselves 243 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 4: on the grid iron and looking from big things from them. 244 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: Do you know when you look at coach and I 245 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: know that this is and I know this from talking 246 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: to Pat Knight for example, you you know who's along 247 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: with you at Marion on the basketball side of things. 248 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: The nil complexity of college football. And I'm sure you're 249 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: rolling your eyes right when I asked that, because it's 250 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: such a buzzword within college athletics and at the ni 251 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: inn ai A level. It's not as a you know, 252 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: it's not applicable, but but it is to an extent 253 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 1: because you have kids maybe that go and they think 254 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: there's going to be greater pastor somewhere and then it 255 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: doesn't work out and they find themselves wanting to just play. 256 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: How has kind of the rippled down, if you will, 257 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: affected you guys just in terms of roster and for 258 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: that matter, transfers in of kids that all of that 259 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: applies towards. 260 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 3: It's a good question. So no, it has affected us. 261 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 4: You know, last year we had a really good cornerback, 262 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 4: Dwight Lewis, and he ended up going to uh, Mississippi State, 263 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 4: the big division one you know, at the S program, 264 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 4: you know, for for a nice little deal, you know. 265 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 4: And then you know, so many high schools are starting 266 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 4: to work with the NIL. I think we have to 267 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 4: you know, get going on that ourselves too. But what 268 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 4: I've seen the like over the last two years is 269 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 4: that a lot of players at this level, if they 270 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 4: you know, have distinguished them themselves, can move up in 271 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 4: division and also get an ANL payday. So it's really interesting, 272 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 4: you know, what's going on in the last you know, 273 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 4: really a two three years. 274 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: So let's talk about your roster in terms of what 275 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: you have returning. And in addition to that, you know, 276 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: I'm assuming coach that you're always kind of looking from 277 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: one year to the next to making slight tweaks or 278 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: changes of the way you play. But do you schematically 279 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: do you design towards what you were doing a year 280 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: ago or do you have some new faces that maybe 281 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: create a little bit of need for wrinkle. 282 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Well, so first off, we have a new 283 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 4: defensive coordinator and play Emrick. He's done an excellent job, 284 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 4: you know. And we have some new faces on the 285 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 4: defensive side of the ball as well. 286 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 3: So now there's going to be a. 287 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 4: Quite a few changes defensively for sure, and there's gonna 288 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 4: be some new faces in the program that are going 289 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 4: to get to play Tomorrow night offensively. Matt King returns 290 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 4: our offensive coordinator. We're gonna do a lot of the Saints, 291 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,199 Speaker 4: but he's also going to have some wrinkles in there. 292 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 3: You know. The best fits are are personnel and what 293 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 3: he wants to do there. 294 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 4: So every year is always different, Jake, So you know, 295 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 4: and you got to improvise and adapt and make those changes. 296 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: You've got a pretty big staff actually, you know, I 297 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: know Steve Stensi, for example, who's obviously well known from 298 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: a high school standpoint in the area and I think 299 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: was out of coaching for a while and came back. 300 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: But you've got a pretty good sized staff in terms 301 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: of going into the year. And I'm curious as the 302 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: head coach, you know which area of a football team, 303 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: does the head coach become most reliant on the assistant. 304 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 3: Well, that's a good question. 305 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 4: I'd say it probably changes from year to year. I've 306 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 4: been on, you know, all sides of the football and 307 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 4: then when I first got back to Mary and I 308 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 4: was offensively. Now I'm on the defensive side working with 309 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 4: the D line. You know, I've been a special teams coordinator. 310 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 4: I think that you know, if you have a good 311 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 4: stout defense, you know that's what you want to you know, 312 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 4: rely on most. 313 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: When you look offensively speaking, I love when I ask 314 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: this question at the beginning of each year, and listen, 315 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: Marian is so cool anyway, coach. You probably hear me 316 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: say this annually. But every time I drive up Cold 317 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: Springs Road, which I do a lot. Every time I 318 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: drive up there, there's a new aspect of the campus. 319 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it continues to grow and grow as a university. 320 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: I love the fact that I think that Marian has 321 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: really utilized and understood the importance in the marriage of 322 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: athletics to profile that and to make the university, you know, 323 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: to get not only for alumni to come back, but 324 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: also to promote the university and the university has grown 325 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: along with It's a symbiotic relationship with athletics with it. 326 00:15:58,680 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 3: Right. 327 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:03,239 Speaker 1: So having said all of that, I love the atmosphere. 328 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: The game day atmosphere is always good over there. And 329 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: if people are going to come out that are not 330 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: as familiar with Marion and just want to be able 331 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: to see local talent and watch the Knights play, they're 332 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: going to see what style of football, notably offensively. 333 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 4: Offensively, they're going to see a bounce attack. We have 334 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 4: a really good running back in Keaton Lebelle. We got 335 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 4: to be able to run the football. We have a 336 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 4: dynamic receiving corp Jake Reker leading the way there, and 337 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 4: a really good leader the last two years Tristan Polk 338 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 4: at quarterback, who you know, go out so can throw 339 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 4: the ball, but also is underrated in his running game. 340 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 4: So those are some of the things that you'll see authentically. 341 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: You know what I love about it is when you've 342 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: got a receiver as you mentioned in Jake Riker from Plymouth, 343 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: Indiana and he's catching a ball from Tristan Polk is 344 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: from Floyd Central High School, You've got the whole state 345 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: covered there. I mean literally, you're going southern into the 346 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: state northern into the state. You guys are covering everywhere 347 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: trying to get kids to marry in, right. 348 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, we always had. 349 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 4: We always started in the city obviously, but then we 350 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 4: branch out from there and and you know we're hitting 351 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 4: other states as well. 352 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 3: But yeah, and we've always wanted, you know, started home 353 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 3: for sure. 354 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: Chris Keevers is well established now at you Indy as well. 355 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 1: He's you know, a Greyhound alum and is the head 356 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: of that program. You guys will be tussling tomorrow night, 357 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: six o'clock over at Ascension Saint Vincent Field at Marion. 358 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: What jumps out at you about you Indy and why 359 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: is this a good starting matchup for you guys? 360 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 3: Well, well, first off, Chris is a Purdue alum. You know, 361 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 3: he played at Purdue. 362 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: I'm sorry I was, but he coached un her Bart right, yes. 363 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 3: Absolutely, Lue, Yeah, yeah, that's all good. 364 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 4: Me and Chris actually played against each other in college. 365 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 4: He played at Purdue, I I. 366 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 3: At Northwestern, so uh yeah, we actually squared. 367 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 4: We're both defensive linemen about the same age. But what 368 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 4: sticks out to me is that, obviously the well coach, 369 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 4: he's done an excellent job there they're really talenting their offense, 370 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 4: and they do have a good offense and got most 371 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 4: of their offense lineback. 372 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 3: You know, they're a season group. Their quarterback. 373 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 4: You know, there's been a two time conference you know, 374 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 4: first team All Conference guy up for the Harlan Hill, 375 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 4: So you're the dynamic. He can make plays passing and running. 376 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 4: So I mean, they're a dangerous offense and we really 377 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 4: have to work to contain him and put pressure on 378 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 4: the quarterback. 379 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: Do you guys ever just in general, you know, like 380 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: you and Chris for example, going back right, and obviously 381 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: he's been in the area. If I'm not mistaken, I 382 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: think he was a Marshall, so he's an indie guy. 383 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: But when you do you guys ever, over the course 384 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: of a season, whether it be Chris Kievers or any 385 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: other coaches in the area, do you guys ever pick 386 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: each other's brains and just call up, especially if you're 387 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: in different leagues, but just to say, you know, I've 388 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: been working on this or this team does this differently, 389 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: and you guys, you guys have seen somebody that runs 390 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: that style or that kind of a system. You know, 391 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: how much I guess fraternal order is there within coaches 392 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 1: of scouting things out or working things out, or experimenting 393 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: and picking one's brain over the course of a season. 394 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 3: I think that varies from coach to coach, you know. 395 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 4: I mean me and Chris haven't talked a lot about that, 396 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 4: but I think some of our assistanms have, you know, 397 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 4: when we weren't playing each other. I just think that varies. 398 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 4: But yeah, there's that fraternal order, like you say. I've 399 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 4: talked to coach Feminists at Saint Avier. He's played them 400 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 4: a few times, gave me some insights to what he thought. 401 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 4: So that definitely goes on. 402 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: Three of the first four games are going to be 403 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: home games for Marion. It all gets underway against the 404 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: University of Indianapolis and again that game at six h 405 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 1: five tomorrow night. Then it's on the road to take 406 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: on Lawrence Tech and then Defiance and Indiana Wesley and 407 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: there's a gap there on the twentieth been Indiana Wesley 408 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: and notably will be a big game as well on 409 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: the twenty seventh of September. That's always a big one 410 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: out at Ascension Saint Vincent Field. Coach appreciate the time. 411 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: As always, we look forward to talking to you over 412 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: the course of the year, and I know you guys 413 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: always put together a successful season, and heck will probably 414 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 1: be talking maybe eyes on the playoffs towards the end 415 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: of the year, but a lot of football between now 416 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: and then starts tomorrow night. Wish you the best of luck. 417 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 3: Thanks, you appreciate you having me on. 418 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Ted Carris joining us from Marion University 419 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: again tomorrow night against the University of Indianapolis. The NFL 420 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 1: getting underway a week from this weekend, obviously, at least 421 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 1: from the cold standpoint, but this weekend college football getting 422 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 1: underway in earnest there are games taking place all over 423 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: the place. So what better person to talk to than 424 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: Rhet Lewis, who, of course you can see on an 425 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 1: NFL network. You also see him doing Big ten coverage. 426 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 1: He will have USC and who did you say? USC 427 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: is playing Eddie Missouri State? Missouri State and USC coming up. 428 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: So RHTT joining us on the program and a pleasure 429 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: as always, Rhet, I'm gonna give you recipient's choice on blackjack. 430 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 3: Here. 431 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: Do you want to start on the college side or 432 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: the pro side of our conversation. 433 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 5: Let's start college side, man, It's game week, right, and 434 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 5: that gets. 435 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 3: Me fired up. 436 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 5: And we got the Hoosiers at the Rock on Saturday 437 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 5: against Old Dominion and fired up for that one. I'll 438 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 5: get a chance to watch it before a usc most 439 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 5: date kicks off, so uh man, can't wait. A lot 440 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 5: of insitipation, a lot of excitement. 441 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: Okay, let's begin with talking about Indiana itself. I mean 442 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: a year ago, the conversation was just about the overall 443 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: bravada of Kurt Signetti, and then Indiana backed that up obviously. 444 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: And now it's funny because Signette's kind of become like 445 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 1: this spokesperson for the Big Ten coaches when he talks 446 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 1: about scheduling and everybody's like, yeah, what he said. You know, 447 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: it's like he's he's become this kind of face of 448 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: the conference, which I like. But in terms of backing 449 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: up after the big year that Indiana had, what is 450 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,479 Speaker 1: your expectation here of how they carry over what they 451 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 1: did a year ago? 452 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 5: I mean, they've already set the standard, so anything less 453 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 5: would be unexpected for me. 454 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 3: And that's not to say that they're going. 455 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 5: To win eleven games, but to me, like the way 456 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 5: they played, the way they beat up on teams that 457 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 5: they were supposed to beat, you know, And now I 458 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 5: think the next ease of that is playing better in 459 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 5: the biggest games, right, you know, against Ohio State a 460 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 5: year ago, against Notre Dame on the both those teams. 461 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 5: You're gonna have that opportunity this year when the two 462 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 5: toughest teams on your schedule are road games at Oudtson 463 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 5: Stadium at Oregon and then of course in Happy Valley 464 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 5: to play Penn State. By the way, quick trivia for you, Jake, 465 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 5: Do you know who the last team the last I 466 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 5: should say this, who the last Big ten team was 467 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 5: to win at Autsin Stadium in Eugene, Oregon. 468 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: I actually do know that it was Indiana, but it 469 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: was before Oregon was a Big ten team, right. 470 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 3: God, yeah, yes, that's correct. 471 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 5: And I was on that team and I was in 472 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 5: that number and on that field at Autson in two 473 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 5: thousand and four, forced i think seven six takeaways in 474 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 5: that game and scored a kicker turn touchdown. 475 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 3: But I digress. 476 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 5: I just think that there is the standards what we 477 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 5: saw last year, right, and now it's how much can 478 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 5: you raise the bar this year? That's what I'm looking for, right, 479 00:22:58,440 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 5: How much better are you going to be in the 480 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 5: big games? 481 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 3: How much more? You know? 482 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 5: Can you know, like to even break it down even further, like, 483 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 5: can you give for Anando Mendoz a little bit more 484 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 5: time than Curtis Roorkad? You know, can Elijah Shurrat beat 485 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 5: man coverage a little bit more than he did against 486 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 5: Notre Dame and against Ohio State? Like can you do 487 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 5: those things that will elevate your play overall to put 488 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 5: you in a better spot to win those big games? 489 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 1: When you look at the big ten reht you know, 490 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 1: you know Indiana a year ago, one could certainly there 491 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 1: were so many things that fell Indiana's way, but give 492 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: Indiana credit, right, I mean, they had to go out 493 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: and win games. When you look this year. One of 494 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: the fun things that I enjoy doing is trying to 495 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: look at the conference and find out, Okay, who is 496 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: this year's Indiana. Maybe it's Indiana. It's this year's Indiana, right, 497 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: I mean? But aside from that, is there a team 498 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: that when you look at it, you say, people might 499 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 1: be sleeping on this program, but they're kind of quietly 500 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: putting something together here and the schedule is favorable for 501 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: them where they could make some noise anybody jump out 502 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: of you. 503 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think people have immediately been drawn to Brett 504 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 5: Bielma's Illinois squad. But they don't qualify to me because 505 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 5: they're getting all kinds of hypes, right, I mean, like 506 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 5: they're they're top fifteen in the country at this point, 507 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 5: which is a little rich for me. You know, we'll 508 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 5: see what that looks like Week four at the Rock 509 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 5: for Indiana Illinois, which by the way, is essentially a 510 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 5: CFP entrance exam. To me, as you get get going 511 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 5: in the conference schedule, you know, the team that I 512 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 5: would say, gosh, I mean, it's it's tough because like 513 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 5: Indiana was picked seventeenth last year, you know, and ended 514 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 5: up whatever it was, third in the conference. So I 515 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 5: don't know that I'm picking Purdue to light that that 516 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 5: torch this year, and I don't know that it's going 517 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 5: to be Northwestern. I would say, to me, a team 518 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 5: that is maybe a little bit under the radar that 519 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 5: should be talked about a little bit more in the 520 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 5: landscape of being a college football playoff contender, a contender 521 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 5: to win ten ish games, you know once we're into November, 522 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 5: is Minnesota. I think Minnesota is really good. I think 523 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 5: they got one of the top three running backs in 524 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 5: this conference in Darius Taylor. They're breaking into a new quarterback, 525 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 5: but they got really good coaches on the offensive and 526 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 5: defensive side of the ball. 527 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 3: Say what you want about PJ. 528 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 5: Fleck, but he is authentically himself and it resonates within 529 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,959 Speaker 5: that program. I've seen it. I think Minnesota could kind 530 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 5: of ruffle some feathers in the Big Ten this year, 531 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 5: you know, RTT. 532 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: I'll be honest. I think PJ. Fleck from the time 533 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: that he was at Western Michigan and came into Minnesota, 534 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: I think that there was the expectation that you know, like, 535 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: oh man, he's going to have an impact right away, 536 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: and maybe he's been a slower and they've been kind 537 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 1: of patient with it, but I think he's a heck. 538 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 1: I mean, I really like him as a coach because 539 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: to me, he has like a tactical approach that is 540 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 1: where it's like things get cleaned up and they don't 541 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 1: play sloppy and shoot themselves in the foot a lot, 542 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: and now it's just a matter of shoring together talent 543 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: to go with that. Is that a fair assessment in Minnesota? 544 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely. And the other thing I'll say is like 545 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 5: he hired really good coaches, really good coordinators. Greg Harbo 546 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 5: Junior is one of the best offensive coordinators that nobody's 547 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 5: heard of yet. He does a really good job of 548 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 5: getting quarterbacks going, Like obviously got Max Brosmer going last 549 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 5: year in you know, less than a calendar year that 550 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 5: he spent on campus after transferring in from the FCS. 551 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 5: By the way, Brozemer made the Vikings fifty three man 552 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 5: rosters an undrafted free agent, so like, there's something good 553 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 5: there and he's got that opportunity to do that with 554 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 5: a really talented kid in their quarterback this year. Drake lindsay, 555 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 5: I just think that he knows how to rally a program. 556 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 5: He knows how to galvanize a group. 557 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 3: Of young men. 558 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 5: He cares about the right things, and yeah, there's some 559 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 5: stuff that some people look at as shticky, right, you know, 560 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 5: with with slogans and sayings and whatever, but it works, 561 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 5: and I think they've got an opportunity this year to 562 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 5: really have some upward mobility. 563 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: I realized Red Lewis, this does not include Indiana and Purdue, 564 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: but it is the conference. You've got USC coming up 565 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: this weekend. They're fascinating to me because when you think 566 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: SC you automatically think fall out of bed. You're a 567 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 1: top ten program. But last year was rough for them. 568 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 1: Where do things stand for SC? 569 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 3: Well? 570 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 5: Unranked for the first time in a long time in 571 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 5: a preseason poll. But I think anybody follows Indiana knows 572 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 5: preseason polls are kind of whatever, right, and I. 573 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 3: Agree with that. 574 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 5: I think they're going to be better than they were 575 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 5: a year ago. I think they are to me, take 576 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 5: one of eleven teams in this conference that could find 577 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 5: their way into college football playoff contention in November. 578 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 3: Now. 579 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 5: A lot of that hinges on the play of quarterback 580 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 5: Jade and Mayava, who started four games last year, won 581 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 5: three of them, including a bowl game in a last 582 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 5: second touchdown pass for the victory Texas A and M 583 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 5: pretty damn good team there. He's got to be better. 584 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 5: He's got to be a lot better. He threw four 585 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 5: touchdown three picks in that game. You take the picks out. 586 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 5: We're talking about really winning football here. Lincoln's always done 587 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 5: well with quarterbacks. Last year was maybe even of the exception. 588 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 3: So we'll see. Their defense is really good. 589 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 5: Danton Lynn is going to be a head coach in 590 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 5: college football next year if he wants to be. He's 591 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 5: very well compensated as a defensive coordinator at SC and 592 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 5: he's one of the best in the country and that 593 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 5: defense is only going to get better this year. 594 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 3: So I think, you know, this is this is a 595 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 3: game that USC should win, has got to win. 596 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 5: And then we'll see down the road, you know, and 597 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 5: make some they get some tougher opponents here what they 598 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 5: really look like. 599 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: Rtt Lewis is our guest talking about the Big Ten 600 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: and National Football League as well. All right, I'm ready 601 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: to jump into the NFL here, right, you ready, Let's 602 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: do it. Let's be let's begin obviously with the Colts. 603 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: You know, the situation at quarterback itself and Daniel Jones 604 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: coming in and I think you know Chris ballad earlier today, 605 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: mis Prescott said that Daniel Jones approach reminds him of 606 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: Alex Smith and what Alex Smith did in Kansas City, 607 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: and I get that quarterbacks sometimes change of scenery, change 608 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: of expectation can can make a difference. And Jones gets 609 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: that job over Richardson, do you look at that more 610 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: as Daniel Jones won that job or Anthony Richardson lost it. 611 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 5: You know, it's a complicated question because I think, you know, 612 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 5: the protection gas that the whole world saw in the 613 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 5: first week of the preseason. 614 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 3: You know, in. 615 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 5: Again, it's tough to it's tough to kind of look 616 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 5: past that. But from the other side, it's also like 617 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 5: that's basic stuff, Like sure, maybe it's one mistake in 618 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 5: a landscape of the game, but it gets you hurt, 619 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 5: makes you unavailable. And I think to me, it really 620 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 5: comes down to trust and consistency, as sin Steken said, 621 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 5: but professionalism, trust and professionalism. I think they have a 622 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 5: higher degree of trust that Daniel Jones is going to 623 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 5: be available for the team for the duration of the 624 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 5: season and that he's going to do things proactively to 625 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 5: protect that availability. Now, look, freak injuries happened. Happened to 626 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 5: Daniel Jones a couple of years ago with the ACL 627 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 5: But I think I think there's a greater trust that 628 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 5: they're going to be more to have more continuity on 629 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 5: offense because he's going to be out there. And then 630 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 5: I think, you know, the professionalism thing comes back to 631 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 5: what his teammates said about him when the decision was made. 632 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,719 Speaker 5: I mean, I thought one of the overwhelming themes inside 633 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 5: that Colt's locker room was talking about Daniel's work ethic, 634 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 5: talking about, you know, how he holds guys accountable for 635 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 5: what he needs, what they need to be doing to 636 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 5: be successful in any given play. So I think that 637 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 5: stuff right now is just where Daniel Jones is. And 638 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 5: that's not to say that Richardson won't get there as 639 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 5: as Chris Ballard mentioned today, you know, but if look, 640 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 5: if Daniel Jones plays well, I don't I don't see 641 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,040 Speaker 5: any more any further path to a starting job for 642 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:01,719 Speaker 5: Richardson here in Indie. So I think it's a kind 643 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 5: of a complicated situation. 644 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: Right when you were a player, did you find that 645 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: getting the respect of your teammates then allows you to 646 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,719 Speaker 1: begin holding them accountable, or holding your teammates accountable then 647 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: allows them to respect you. 648 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 5: No, it's the other way around. You got to earn that. 649 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 5: You got to earn that, and I think you earn 650 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 5: it by you know, talking to guys about it in 651 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 5: the right way and saying, hey, look I need you, 652 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 5: I need you here, I need you to make this 653 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 5: step instead of that step. I need you to go 654 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 5: at this depth instead of that depth. And then when 655 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,959 Speaker 5: it works, you're like, Okay, I get it now, right, 656 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 5: this guy knows what he's doing. And I think I 657 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 5: think you earned that trust with your work ethic. I 658 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 5: think you earned that trust with your availability. So I think, 659 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 5: in my experience, the quarterback that commands the locker room 660 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 5: is the one that has earned it and not just 661 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 5: tried to do it from the jump. 662 00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 3: Did Yeah. 663 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: I mean, have you've seen situations, either on a team 664 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: that you're on or when you assess a team where 665 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: the starting quarterback might not be the most talented quarterback, 666 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,479 Speaker 1: but he's the one that is the best leader amongst 667 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: the quarterback room. 668 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, like I could probably take you back 669 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 5: to the and this is this is not the best 670 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 5: example because it didn't ultimately lead to success. But I 671 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 5: think if you think back to when Indiana was deciding 672 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 5: between Jack Tuttle and Connor Bayslack, I think there was 673 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 5: there was a potential with talent that that kind of 674 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 5: led Connor to get that job. But I think that 675 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 5: there was the majority of that locker room was prepared 676 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 5: for Jack Tuttle to be the starting quarterback that year. 677 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 5: And I think that they connect that they maybe connected 678 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 5: more with him, they'd been around him for a longer 679 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 5: period of time. That's that's kind of part of the 680 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 5: deal in college football now. I actually asked Kurt Signetti 681 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 5: about this with Fernando Mendoza. I was like, have you 682 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 5: seen the ways in which fernand Though has connected with 683 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 5: all corners of the locker room? Because that, to me 684 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 5: is when you, you know, kind of earn that inherent 685 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 5: leadership role as QB one is when everybody else really 686 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 5: rallies behind you. Look at Jackson Dart in New York, Like, 687 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 5: have you watched the way that his teammates loved that dude, 688 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 5: that they play for that dude, that they celebrate that 689 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 5: guy when he goes out there and makes plays. But 690 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 5: that stuff is real, and while it is quote unquote 691 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 5: and intangible, I do think it has a tangible effect 692 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 5: on the success of a team. 693 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, the you know, it's interesting when you look at 694 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: young quarterbacks, and I think that's the thing. Rhet, like 695 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: with Anthony Richardson earlier today, Chris Ballard met with the 696 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: media and he was talking Rhet Lewis as our guest. 697 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: He was talking about Richardson. He was and he was 698 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: saying Richardson's just come. You know, he's come miles from 699 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: where he was when he first arrived, essentially, which is 700 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: peculiar to me. Else what's that but miles still to 701 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 1: go correct, But what's peculiar to me is you're saying 702 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 1: that he has come miles in terms of his growth, 703 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 1: but the place where he started seemingly was good enough 704 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: for you to determine that he's a starter, and now 705 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: miles later he's he can't win the job. So that 706 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: is an admission of error, and the way that you 707 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: handled this from the beginning, in your opinion, can that 708 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:26,919 Speaker 1: be salvaged at this point? 709 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 5: I think, look, I mean, Chris Ballard knows better than anybody, 710 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 5: Shane Stiken knows better than anybody what the true feelings 711 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 5: are there, and I don't know that those ever really 712 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 5: get shared in public. But at this point I would 713 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 5: find it very difficult to believe that there is a 714 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 5: pass forward for Anthony Richardson to be a starting quarterback 715 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 5: for the Colts. 716 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 3: I just think that this is one of those situations. 717 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 5: You know, look allah Daniel Jones, right, who has refound 718 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 5: rediscovered himself as a starter in this league after you know, 719 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 5: kind of making the rounds after the Giants and then 720 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 5: going to Minnesota and ending up in Indy like that 721 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 5: could be the pass for Anthony, and maybe that's best, 722 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 5: you know, maybe that's best for all parties. 723 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 3: I think it's always. 724 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 5: Hard when you consider the resources that you use to 725 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 5: acquire that player. Being the fourth overall pick in the draft, 726 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 5: you do the risks. We all know the risks of 727 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 5: taking a quarterback that high, especially one with minimal experience 728 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 5: at the college level. But I just I find it 729 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,320 Speaker 5: hard hard to believe. Now, Look, you know, something happens 730 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 5: with Daniel Jones. They you know, they turned the ball 731 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 5: over a bunch in the first four games. Maybe Anthony 732 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 5: comes in and maybe the four games were really good 733 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 5: for him, you know, kind of the way that they 734 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 5: were for Bryce Young last year with the Panthers. Came 735 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 5: back in second half of the season. Man was a 736 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 5: different player, and now we're talking about him as being 737 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 5: the face of the franchise again. 738 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,280 Speaker 3: I guess that would be possible. 739 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 5: But if Daniel Jones plays this entire season, there's I 740 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 5: just don't see any way that Richardson remains a viable 741 00:35:59,080 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 5: QB one with this rain. 742 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: I was thinking about this Rhett. Can you imagine the 743 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,879 Speaker 1: worst case scenario of the Colts go ahead and start 744 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones all year he has a Sam Darnold bounce 745 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: back effect or the Alex Smith in Kansas City or 746 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: Washington effect, and then as a result, some other franchise 747 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: comes along and offers him like twenty two million and 748 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 1: signs them away, and the Colts are right back to 749 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: square one again. Yeah, who knows, right, I mean, yeah, 750 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: stranger things that happen, all right, USC and Missouri State. 751 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 1: You will have that game on Saturday before we let 752 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 1: you go. Give me a couple of other games that 753 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: you have your eye on that maybe you won't be 754 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 1: able to even see it, but you're like, man, I'm 755 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: going to go back and look at it because I 756 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: can't wait to see what takes place. 757 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 5: Well, obviously it's a lot of Seaton Texas. I mean 758 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 5: that is that is top billing for me. In the 759 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 5: big new pickoff slot, you got the battle for the 760 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 5: Real Death Valley between London and LSU, which I think 761 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 5: is going to be a great one. Two potential first 762 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 5: round picks at quarter right there in Kate club Nick 763 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,800 Speaker 5: for Clemson and Garrett Nutzmeyer for LSU. 764 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 3: Those two really rule the day for me there. 765 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 5: Obviously, I'll have my eyes on IU in a dominion. 766 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 5: I'm really excited about what Fernando Mendoz is going to 767 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 5: bring to this offense. I think he can take it 768 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 5: to another level than what we saw a year ago, 769 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 5: which would you know, which would really you know, raise 770 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,959 Speaker 5: an already high bar. But those those are the three 771 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 5: that I'll be watching if I, you know, whenever I can. Obviously, 772 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 5: we've got a four thirty Pacific time kick, so it's 773 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 5: thirty Eastern timekick at the Coliseum on Saturday night, and 774 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 5: excited for that one. But yeah, man, it's it's gonna 775 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 5: be a great day at college football. And then you know, 776 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 5: we get to come right back at it and get 777 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 5: the double dose on Saturday and then starting Thursday. Welcome, 778 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 5: Welcome to the twenty twenty five NFL. 779 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: Season, Ratt. I'm a diehard. This has nothing to do 780 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,839 Speaker 1: with sports talk in Indianapolis, but for what it's worth, 781 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 1: I'm a huge, huge Clemson fan, have been a season 782 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: ticket holder for Clemson football and that is the real 783 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:53,320 Speaker 1: Death Valley. 784 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 5: By the way, just so you know, Oh oh okay, 785 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 5: I'm from New Orleans, grew up in the shadows of 786 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 5: a Tiger stadium, So I don't know if. 787 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 1: I could agree with you who wins on Saturday. 788 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 5: Oh it's the Tigers, brother, it's a Tiger, Garrett, notts 789 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 5: Meyer's gonna out. 790 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:16,959 Speaker 1: No, it's a Tiger. I don't right, right right, listen, 791 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: kidding a side red. The reality is this in terms 792 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 1: of and it's ridiculous to say this before Labor Day, 793 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:28,320 Speaker 1: but in terms of the college football playoff landscape, you know, LSU, 794 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 1: it would be better served for LSU to win it 795 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 1: and get on that right path because Clemson, I think, 796 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 1: could lose that game and still if it's tight, still 797 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,319 Speaker 1: win the ACC outright and still put themselves in very 798 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 1: good position. But listen, I like LSU too. I mean, 799 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,840 Speaker 1: that is a fabulous Baton Rouge is beautiful, That campus 800 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: is awesome, and that would be an awesome place to 801 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: watch a game as well. So it should be a 802 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:49,800 Speaker 1: lot of fun, no question about it. 803 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, by the way, had tip to our guy, to 804 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 5: Tom Allen DC there at Clemson, Like when he laid 805 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 5: his head on the pillow, you know, twenty years ago 806 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 5: he dreamt of having a defense this talented as he does. 807 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 5: Ones in here, so I'm excited to see it put 808 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:03,280 Speaker 5: it all together. 809 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,800 Speaker 1: There a lot of talent on both sides of that football. 810 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: It's going to be a lot of fun. And then Texas, 811 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: Ohio state a big one, and the USC and Missouri 812 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,399 Speaker 1: state as well. Appreciate it. Man, Yeah, thanks, brother Red 813 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: Lewis joining the program.