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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Hammer and Nigel show.

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Speaker 2: My name is Nigel, Jason Hammer is out. Jerry Lopez

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Speaker 2: is filling in about this time every Friday. Matt Bear

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Speaker 2: the traffic Beasts, joining us live in studio, coming out

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Speaker 2: from behind the glass there in his little booth. He

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Speaker 2: is large and in charge, and boy, things suck out

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Speaker 2: on the roads right now. As nice as day as

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Speaker 2: it is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a gorgeous day.

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Speaker 2: It's been. The potholes, holy gosh almighty. Yeah, it's a

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Speaker 2: real thing that we complain about every year, and nothing

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Speaker 2: seems to get done about it, especially with the flooding

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Speaker 2: that's happened and the rain. You want to go ahead

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Speaker 2: and maybe expand on what you're seeing as a traffic reporter.

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Speaker 4: The thing I worry about, and I had this experience

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Speaker 4: a couple of times here in the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 4: So we get into February, Mark it's pole. It's absolutely

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Speaker 4: brutal here in Indianapolis, and as I'm told, all over

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Speaker 4: Indiana for that matter, and there's this construction zone on

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Speaker 4: the south. I talk about this thing all the time,

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Speaker 4: like it's the devil itself, you know, it's it's on

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Speaker 4: the south side. It's this Massiveston Avenue construction zone and

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Speaker 4: it's right around Pleasant Run Parkway. And if you've been

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Speaker 4: through it, you're like, yeah, that's the worst thing ever.

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Speaker 4: And it is, uh basically there's just like bohemoth this.

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Speaker 4: As you were traveling northbound, yeah, oh yeah, it's this.

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Speaker 2: It's this thing.

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Speaker 4: It's got tentacles, love crafty in the whole thing. It's

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Speaker 4: just coming out after you. And it's it's you can't

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Speaker 4: because the road is two lanes, just one lane northbound.

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Speaker 3: In southbound, you really can't get away from us.

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Speaker 4: So you have to slow down, make sure everybody coming

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Speaker 4: the other way isn't going to be you know there,

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Speaker 4: what do you try to swerve around this monster pothole?

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Speaker 4: Now it was gone the other day, what.

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Speaker 2: You mean gone? They filled it in with asphalt.

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Speaker 3: It's taken care of for the moment. But my worry

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Speaker 3: is if somebody because you know, nobody's.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I do, but you know, when it comes

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Speaker 4: to construction zones and speed limbits, that people really get

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Speaker 4: on it even though they're not supposed to. And I'm

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Speaker 4: just worry about somebody swerving over to the left like.

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Speaker 3: You could on any road.

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Speaker 4: To miss a pothole, you know, you don't swerve in

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Speaker 4: the oncoming traffic to get away from the pot well,

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Speaker 4: because if you go ahead on with somebody, doesn't matter

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Speaker 4: if you missed.

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Speaker 3: A pothole or not. This is traffic professionalism, expertise.

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Speaker 1: So I donated two tires to the City of Indianapolis

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Speaker 1: a couple weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: City things, you're kidding, same side.

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Speaker 1: What pothole took out my whole driver's side both tires

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Speaker 1: bullo gone And uh so.

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Speaker 2: Did you Is that any recourse for that?

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Speaker 1: Can you turn it in, Matt If it has been reported,

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Speaker 1: you can turn it in.

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Speaker 3: You can file a tour claim with the city.

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Speaker 4: Those well those like I think we're at like point

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Speaker 4: oh two percent, somebody actually gets the money back. Because

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Speaker 4: you have to have proof up and down, You have

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Speaker 4: to have pictures the whole thing and.

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Speaker 1: Has to have already been reported. Yeah, it has to

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Speaker 1: already been reported.

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Speaker 4: You have to have the cops involved, and then you

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Speaker 4: have to like prove through the city that if this

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Speaker 4: pothole wasn't there, my car never would have been damaged.

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Speaker 4: So it's just this laborious process you got to go through.

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Speaker 3: You just got to get the whole thing done.

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Speaker 4: And even what you do, yeah, even when you are

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Speaker 4: done turning things in like you said, Jerry, you're not.

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Speaker 3: The chances are aren't.

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Speaker 1: When it's when it's raining down here, I am terrified

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Speaker 1: because I play a game mentally called pothole or puddle.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like is it gonna cost you a tire

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Speaker 2: It could be both. And that's what's worse. It could

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Speaker 2: be both. Matt Bear Traffic Beast live in studio here,

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Speaker 2: and so I mean, does pothole season ever really go away?

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Speaker 2: That's our last so we can move on after this.

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Speaker 2: But no, the pothole season doesn't ever really go away,

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Speaker 2: Like like more road right there in front of Trader's

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Speaker 2: Point Creamery. That's how I go home every night. It's

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Speaker 2: just a disaster. I mean, even if you fill in

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Speaker 2: would be if it was a pothole. Yeah, I feel like.

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Speaker 4: And the thing is, and you know, the city eventually,

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Speaker 4: at some point this pothole season, this like it's five

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Speaker 3: At some point, the city's.

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Speaker 4: Going to hire out contractors or I should say people

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Speaker 4: out of like pole out of city.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, downey right, if you're a contractor, do you see

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Speaker 1: a pohole pillt sending the bill to the city.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 4: I think there are three shops on Pennsylvania right in

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Speaker 4: a road where you can go there. It's not only

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Speaker 4: do these crews come from out of town. They don't

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Speaker 4: care about Indianapolis as much as we do, but they

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Speaker 4: can just like stop the truck right in front of

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Speaker 4: you and pile out, you know, like it's a clown car.

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Speaker 2: Is that right? You know, I didn't know they came

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Speaker 4: Everybody swarves, some of them do, and you have to

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Speaker 4: kind of swerve around them. So, yeah, the potholes are

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Speaker 4: going to be filled. But we're just talking about the

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Speaker 4: most basic element here. We're just talking about patching the mob.

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Speaker 4: I mean what we need are better roads, as simple

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Speaker 4: as that. I mean that there are roads. I think

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Speaker 4: on this you know, tour is he intersection and cultural distinct.

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Speaker 4: I live in a mass avenue, you know, like Eastreeters.

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Speaker 4: You're coming towards like the real hotbed of mass and everything.

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Speaker 4: I think it just looks like a moon crater. I

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Speaker 4: mean it's just and I don't have a suspension to

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Speaker 4: begin with in my car because it's a piece of

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Speaker 4: crap and I dropped that years and years ago somewhere

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Speaker 4: on four sixty five.

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Speaker 1: But it's just like you are now qualified to driving

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Speaker 1: a war zone map.

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Speaker 3: Get me a humpy.

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Speaker 2: I'd love to have one here before we before we

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Speaker 2: move on. I did want it because you and Hammer

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Speaker 2: have this thing about the new blackout plates, the license

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Speaker 2: plates that Indiana has issued. That's they kind of look sleek.

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Speaker 2: They're black and with the silver uh numbers and letters

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Speaker 2: for your license plate. But you are you saying you

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Speaker 2: think it's kind of uh, it marks it easier for

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Speaker 2: speed cameras. I've been here this, I've been hearing this

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Speaker 2: a lot lately, that this is a hit, big thing

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Speaker 2: for Hammer. Yeah, it's blackout plates are are easier to

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Speaker 2: pick up by these speed cameras like they had up

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Speaker 2: on four sixty five, the ones that take a picture

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Speaker 2: of your plate and then you know, you get a

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Speaker 2: war you get a ticket, cetera, et cetera. I've been

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Speaker 2: reading actually that it doesn't really matter, and it kind

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Speaker 2: of would have been fun if it was. But they're

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Speaker 2: saying that these blackout plates that.

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Speaker 4: Really it's about the pixelation, not necessarily the color of

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Speaker 4: the plate. When I first got my blackout plate, I

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Speaker 4: thought it was the coolest thing in the world. I

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Speaker 4: thought it was so cool, and it's like, wow, like

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Speaker 4: one of the first ones.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna start getting chicks.

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Speaker 1: Now, well, I feel like the biggest dude. He didn't

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Speaker 1: have a problem with that.

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Speaker 4: No, I feel like the biggest d bag because everybody

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Speaker 4: else has a blackout plate. It's like they personalized it,

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Speaker 4: you know, and it's like, what is it's cool enough.

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Speaker 4: It's like you're messing up a masterpiece here. But Matt, hey,

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Speaker 4: complete disclosure. Last time I saw you what I put

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Speaker 4: in that window. I got a warning from.

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Speaker 1: The speed camera on sixty nine and I was three

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Speaker 1: lanes over, dude, three lanes over. Got me clear as day.

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Speaker 2: Ah yeah, wait, what happened?

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Speaker 1: I got a ticket from one of those little white

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Speaker 1: trucks with the camera on it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow, But it was just a warning.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was my first.

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Speaker 2: People are getting them, yeah, your second.

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Speaker 1: One, like seventy five, one hundred and fifty.

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Speaker 3: Then this guy's I think it stops it. I don't know,

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Speaker 3: but one hundred and fifty is for I looked at Matt,

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Speaker 3: I was like, I got me, dude. But it's like nice,

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Speaker 3: It's like we joke, but I'm glad it was just

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Speaker 3: a warning. Man.

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Speaker 4: That's expensive stuff. I mean, all of a sudden, it's

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Speaker 4: a seventy five dollars ticket. And I know we're responsible

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Speaker 4: for our own driving, but that's I mean, you get

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Speaker 4: one of those things in the mail, You're like, man,

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Speaker 4: I feel like.

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Speaker 1: I want my parent to feel bad for me.

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Speaker 3: The traffic guy's like, you messed up. That's not prob.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been tony for months.

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Speaker 3: You messed up.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's pivot here just a little bit. The

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Speaker 2: big celebrity news Britney Spears pulled over for dui in California.

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Speaker 2: They're saying she was not only alcohol and drugs, looking

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Speaker 2: like she's probably going to have to go back to

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Speaker 2: rehab a place that you're familiar with, Matt Bear, not

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Speaker 2: necessarily the same spots that is there. Okay, let me

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Speaker 2: ask you this about rehabit. We get your general thoughts

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Speaker 2: and your take on this, because recovering alcoholic, you've been

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Speaker 2: to rehab, but like, is there a difference between a

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Speaker 2: that cost fifty thousand dollars a week. Yeah, are they

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Speaker 3: Are they?

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Speaker 2: Do they get results?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: For the ultra rich.

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Speaker 4: It's first off, she got stopped at Malibu and got clicked.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how you do that when you're a celebrity.

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Speaker 4: I thought that was kind of impressive. You must have

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Speaker 4: been really doing something. Here's my thing, you know, the

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Speaker 4: thing with the facility and you know, Britney Spears, we

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Speaker 4: say we want and you know, we make jokes, but

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Speaker 4: it's she's still recovering annict and alcoholic it seems like,

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Speaker 4: or someone who might be in use right now out

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Speaker 4: of use. It's up to us, guys at the end

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Speaker 4: of the day. We have to make the decision that

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Speaker 4: we're going to do the work and be able to

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Speaker 4: stay sober.

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Speaker 3: And for Britney Spears.

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Speaker 4: And I put this in because it didn't say directly

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Speaker 4: in the story, because she got that DWY. It didn't

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Speaker 4: say directly in the story she was going back to rehab,

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Speaker 4: but there was kind of right towards it, and yeah,

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Speaker 4: she's going to do that again. And you know, it

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Speaker 4: took me three to four times. One of them are

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Speaker 4: kind of missed together. One of them I went to

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Speaker 4: Tennessee and it was really if anybody reads this, I

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Speaker 4: don't like it when these stories go out all the time,

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Speaker 4: because the rehab it could be a very beautiful start

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Speaker 4: to a new, beautiful life. And when people see this,

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Speaker 4: they're like, well, she's done it six times, why go

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Speaker 4: to rehabit.

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Speaker 3: It's not going to work. It does work.

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Speaker 4: I had some fantastic experiences rehab, met some really good

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Speaker 4: people who cared about me. The people in rehab a

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Speaker 3: So that's that's kind of what I wonder.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's Britney. What about the affordable affordability Okay of

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Speaker 4: I believe that rehab like Michelle, shouldn't be one hundred

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Speaker 3: And that's kind of a thing, you know.

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Speaker 2: I mean mine, with those expensive ones, it's kind of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you make so much money off these

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying these places are. I'm just saying there

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Speaker 3: And sometimes you need to be jostled a little bit there. Man.

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Speaker 2: Are you allowed to use this Delta eight stuff being

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Speaker 2: I'm not even sure like THC is legal in Indiana, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: was that gets you high? Right, yeah, gets you high?

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Speaker 4: And I mean I wasn't a big week guy in

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Speaker 4: There's a loop in the farm bill or a farm

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Speaker 3: Like you were saying, well.

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Speaker 4: They didn't take the they be in the General Assembly

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Speaker 4: they're not going to be in accordance with this federal band.

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Speaker 2: So you could get out. I mean if you take

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Speaker 4: Yes, and that's uh yeah. As a matter of fact,

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Speaker 4: I yeah from Bloomington. A guy from Bloomington, twenty years old,

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Speaker 3: And that's owy.

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Speaker 1: And you can also test positive you go for a

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Speaker 3: You at the gas station wherever. You test positive for drugs.

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Speaker 2: Now I even think about that, but that stuff's real.

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Speaker 2: My wife and I somebody gave us like it was

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Speaker 2: like it wasn't even hard soda, it was it was

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Speaker 2: THC infused water in a sixteen houce can and her

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Speaker 2: and I on a Friday night kind of just sipped

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Speaker 2: on that instead of alcohol, and like we at the

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Speaker 2: end of the night we were just like boy, like

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Speaker 2: we were dead tired. Yeah, and we slept in which

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Speaker 2: was great, But that had a real There's no way

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Speaker 2: I could have ate all the rack. There's no way

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Speaker 2: was no alcohol in it whatsoever. It was just the

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Speaker 2: stuff that's legal here to buy. Matt Bear, Where could

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Speaker 2: people find you? Where could people find more of your stuff?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm a mattin traffic. You can find me on Twitter.

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Speaker 4: I am a recovery alcoholic and addective. If you want

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Speaker 4: to talk to me about that, I'd love to just

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Speaker 4: shoot me a message on x or even Facebook. I

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Speaker 4: don't do a lot of social media, but I'd love

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Speaker 3: It would be my privilege.

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Speaker 2: More traffic with Matt Bear here in just a few

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Speaker 2: minutes it's the hammer of Nigel show