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Speaker 1: to talk about is the fact that the number one

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Speaker 1: team in the land in college basketball is right here

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Speaker 1: just north of us with Purdue. And that's why the

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Speaker 1: voice of the boil Makers, Rob Blackman, going to join

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Speaker 1: us on the other side, Steven Holder today will play

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Speaker 1: for you some of the comments nationally about Kurt Signetti

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Speaker 1: and the fact that Signetti when it comes to Penn State,

433
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Speaker 1: there might be a reprieve for Indiana, but it could

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Speaker 1: come at the cost of other fans within Indianapolis. We'll

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Speaker 1: get to all of it over the course of today.

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Speaker 1: Rob Blackman next, Steven Holder coming up one o'clock today.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Dave says, Jake, I can't believe you

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Speaker 1: didn't mention the fever. I was just talking about the

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Speaker 1: teams that are in season right now. You got and

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Speaker 1: I realize you know Purdue hasn't started yet, but I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: you got the Pacers getting ready to start. You've got

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Speaker 1: Indiana in season, You've got the Colts in season, and

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Speaker 1: you've got the number one team in college basketball, the

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Speaker 1: Purdue Boilermakers. Joining us now on the Java House. Peel

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Speaker 1: and poor guest line. He is the radio play by

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Speaker 1: play voice of the Predue Boilermaker basketball program. You hear

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Speaker 1: him on the football broadcast as well, and he shares

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Speaker 1: a birthday with what is destined to be eventually a

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Speaker 1: national holiday because we have the same birthday. Rob Blackman

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Speaker 1: joining me on the show. Rob, how are you?

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Speaker 3: That's right, Jake, Rob and Sting Ray, Rob of IndyCar

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Speaker 3: racing fame all September third birthdays?

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Speaker 1: You know who else? By the way, Rob and we

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Speaker 1: probably we probably have stop there while we w're ahead.

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Speaker 1: Charlie Sheen as well as September third birthday.

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Speaker 3: I believe have you watched the documentary on Charlie Sheen?

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Speaker 1: So you know, I interesting you mentioned that I caught

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Speaker 1: probably the last third of it because I got Shannon

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Speaker 1: was watching it and I got over to her house

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, what are we watching here? And then

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Speaker 1: you know, it was like this vortex you couldn't get

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Speaker 1: out of once you start watching it. And I will say,

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Speaker 1: you know, my Charlie Sheen actually, so I assume you've

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Speaker 1: seen the documentary, correct, Yes, I have, Yes, Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: a bit of a wild lifestyle. One of the things

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Speaker 1: that I don't know if this was covered in the documentary,

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Speaker 1: but I've got to give Charlie Sheen his Flowers here.

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Speaker 1: One of the things he did, Rob that I always

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Speaker 1: thought was cool was do you remember the time when

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Speaker 1: he bought the entire left field seats at Dodger Stadium.

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Speaker 3: I had forgotten about that, but yes, now that you

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Speaker 3: bring it up, Like.

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Speaker 1: He always wanted to get a home run ball, so

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Speaker 1: he bought the entire left field seats and just sat

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Speaker 1: by himself. And I don't think anybody hit a homer, right, No.

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Speaker 3: I think that was the story, right. That was ended

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Speaker 3: up being the whole the storyline was the fact that

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Speaker 3: no one ever hit.

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Speaker 4: A home run the day.

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Speaker 1: You know, knowing Charlie Sheen, he probably did that when

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Speaker 1: they were playing the Giants to try to get a

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Speaker 1: Barry Bonds ball and didn't think about the fact that

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Speaker 1: he should have bought it in right field instead of

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Speaker 1: left right, you.

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Speaker 4: Know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. All right, let's talk about this, Rob. You know,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's any big surprise that Matt Paynter's

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Speaker 1: group is ranked number one. And I think one of

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Speaker 1: the things, and I've we talked about this with the Corsi,

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Speaker 1: but but you know, you see it up close and personal.

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Speaker 1: One of the things about Purdue basketball Rob to me

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Speaker 1: that makes this so both special and impressive is this

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Speaker 1: is because of the experience and not that they're not

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Speaker 1: great players that Purdue has, but the challenge in today's

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Speaker 1: world of keeping a unit together and having them buy

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Speaker 1: in and continue to not search greener pastors elsewhere. I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying they're not getting an ie money, but you

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Speaker 1: got what I'm saying there. What is it about Purdue

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Speaker 1: basketball that so far, to this point has been able

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Speaker 1: to buck the trend of its mainline players constantly coming

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Speaker 1: and going.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So, you know, I've heard Matt Painter speak on this

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Speaker 3: numerous times this summer because that's been a pretty popular question,

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Speaker 3: as you might imagine. And I also heard both Trey Kaufman,

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Speaker 3: Wren and Braydon Smith speak to this at media day

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Speaker 3: last week, the Big Ten Media Day, and the word

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Speaker 3: they all kept using was family. And I know it

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Speaker 3: sometimes that can sound a bit hokey because I understand

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Speaker 3: that every team atmosphere is trying to try and to

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Speaker 3: make it family like, but they really do feel like

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Speaker 3: they're part of the family and that it goes further

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Speaker 3: than just basketball and what happens on the court, and

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Speaker 3: there is something to be said for having a coaching

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Speaker 3: staff and an administration that truly believes in what's best

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Speaker 3: for you. As Matt Painter likes to say, once the

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Speaker 3: ball stops bouncing, because as most of our guys figure out,

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Speaker 3: eventually that ball does stop bounce, you have to do

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Speaker 3: something else in life besides play basketball. So that's the

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Speaker 3: word that seems to be thrown around a lot, and

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Speaker 3: I think it is fair. I think it certainly is

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Speaker 3: appropriate that it is a family atmosphere that once you're there,

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Speaker 3: you really feel like you're you're a part of something

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Speaker 3: bigger than just basketball. Now, Matt Painter has also been

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Speaker 3: very clear that, you know, Purdue's never had in this

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Speaker 3: in this modern day now transfer portal stuff, Purdue has

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Speaker 3: never had a starter that has has entered the portal.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: We've had some guys that played some minutes and played

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Speaker 3: off the off the bench, but as far as a

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Speaker 3: guy that was in the regular starting lineup, they've never left.

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Speaker 3: So obviously there's something about coming to Purdue and you know,

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Speaker 3: not only having a chance to play, but having a

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Speaker 3: chance to again put yourself in a position where you

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Speaker 3: can do something with your life. When basketball is all

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Speaker 3: said and done. So certainly you and you brought it

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Speaker 3: up there, you kind of hinted at it. Braden Smith

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Speaker 3: and Trey Coffin Rinn and Fletcher Lawyer. I am certain

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Speaker 3: they had opportunities this offseason to go play somewhere else

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Speaker 3: and probably make a little bit more money, if not

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Speaker 3: a lot more money, and making it for Doe. But

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Speaker 3: they certainly enjoy where they're at. They love being Purdue

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Speaker 3: basketball players, and again they feel like they're part of

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Speaker 3: something bigger than just basketball. So that is at least

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Speaker 3: with this group of guys, at least the guys we've

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Speaker 3: seen here in the last really ten or twelve years

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Speaker 3: or so. That's that's that's been something that's been very

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Speaker 3: important to them.

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Speaker 1: What would you say is Charlie Sheen's signature role Rob.

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Speaker 3: Oh? Well, here's the problem. This will be a little

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Speaker 3: off the wall because it's one of my all time

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Speaker 3: favorite movies. But so me personally, I go with Young Guns. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I know he gets killed in Young Guns. I understand that,

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Speaker 3: but that's one of my all time favorite movies.

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Speaker 1: So when I think.

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Speaker 3: Charlie Sheen is always the first movie that comes to

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Speaker 3: my mind.

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Speaker 1: Here's what's funny, for me, I mean major league, you know,

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Speaker 1: like I look at his list and I'm like, oh gosh,

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Speaker 1: major league, Like how do how do you forget? You know,

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Speaker 1: Ricky Vaughn? Right? But absolutely, But I but probably because

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Speaker 1: it was the first time I kind of was introduced

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Speaker 1: to him, even though it was a cameo that was

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Speaker 1: very brief, Ferris Bueller's Day Off jumps out at me.

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Speaker 1: I know, that's crazy. And obviously Platoon is the most

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Speaker 1: decorated pardon the pun movie that he was in. And

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Speaker 1: then two and a half minute goes without saying if

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Speaker 1: you're doing TV, but you know, I don't. I mean,

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Speaker 1: would it be major league? Is that what the general

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Speaker 1: population would say, you think? Or Platoon? No?

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Speaker 3: I think I think major League would be the especially

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Speaker 3: the audience that's listening to us right now. But it's interesting.

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Speaker 3: You really do need to watch the documentary Jake, because

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Speaker 3: they talk specifically about his role in Ferris Bueller's Day

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Speaker 3: Off and and really what a breakthrough point it was

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Speaker 3: for him in his career. I'm not going to ruin

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Speaker 3: it for you, but you really do need to watch

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Speaker 3: the documentary because that's that's something they spend I don't

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Speaker 3: know good four or five minutes talking about by.

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Speaker 1: The way, just so so that we're clear rob in

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Speaker 1: terms of the audience listening, that's listening to us right now,

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Speaker 1: that's my mom. That's basically yet just so you know,

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Speaker 1: I know the feeling. Trust me. Hey, what new faces.

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Speaker 1: So let's just for example, if Braydon Smith and Fletcher

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Speaker 1: Lawyer and you know, obviously Trey Koppin Rehn, I mean,

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Speaker 1: if that's your major League two and a half men,

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Speaker 1: Ferris Bueler's day off right. Bottom line is Charlie Sheen

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Speaker 1: had other movies where there were complimentary roles. Give me

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Speaker 1: a player or two that are new cast members to

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Speaker 1: Purdue that you think actually can have complimentary role or

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Speaker 1: even become almost a starring role for the Boilers this year,

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Speaker 1: that we may not be familiar with going into it.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think most the general fan base is going

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Speaker 3: to say omer Meyer. And while I certainly believe, yes,

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Speaker 3: he's going to be a guy that can help this

596
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Speaker 3: team eventually, he's the freshman from Tel Aviv, Israel who

597
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Speaker 3: spent his past season playing for Team Israel in the

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Speaker 3: FEVA Games, and he certainly looks the part, making no

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Speaker 3: mistake about it, I do think the most important new

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Speaker 3: piece is going to be Oscar Kluff. He's a young

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Speaker 3: man transferred in from South Dakota State. Played at two

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Speaker 3: seasons at Washington State before that too, seasons of junior

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Speaker 3: college before that, So he's a veteran guy. Been around

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Speaker 3: the block double double last year, averaged a double double

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Speaker 3: for South Dakota State and was you know, for those

606
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Speaker 3: that follow this kind of stuff, he was picked as

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Speaker 3: the number one overall transfer portal of all the transfer

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Speaker 3: guys this past offseason by a number of publications. So, uh,

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Speaker 3: he's going to really help for two reasons. Number one,

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Speaker 3: his rebounding. It will be much needed. You know, two

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Speaker 3: seasons ago, when Purdue goes all the way to the

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Speaker 3: national championship game, Perdue was the second best rebounding team

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Speaker 3: in the country at about plus eleven point five eleven

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Speaker 3: point six somewhere in there per game. You know, last

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Speaker 3: year that number was down to about one point five

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Speaker 3: a game, plus one point five. So Oscar Cluff's going

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Speaker 3: to really help shore up the rebounding. And the second

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Speaker 3: thing he's going to do is offer some produce an

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Speaker 3: interior defense. Now, look, Daniel Jacobson is back you know,

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Speaker 3: he's seven foot four, played only one game last year

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Speaker 3: because he broke his foot in that game and then

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Speaker 3: didn't get to play the rest of the season. So

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Speaker 3: he's going to help in that in that role. But

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Speaker 3: so will Oscar Cluff, who who was really an underrated

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Speaker 3: interior post defender. You know, Purdue at the worst two

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Speaker 3: point defensive percentage defense in the country last year.

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Speaker 4: Think about that.

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Speaker 3: They were the worst in the nation of every Division

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Speaker 3: One team at two point field goal percentage, which meant

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Speaker 3: obviously everyone's getting to the rim and finishing with either

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Speaker 3: layups or dunks. So uh that's never good. Uh So

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Speaker 3: those are the and those so those are the two

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Speaker 3: areas that absolutely had to be short up rebounding and

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Speaker 3: defensive field goal percentage in the paint. And that's where

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Speaker 3: Oscar Cluff, I think, is going to really make the biggest,

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Speaker 3: the biggest splash for Purdue.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I've not seen Young Guns, and you

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Speaker 1: already spoiled it to me that Charlie Sheen dies early.

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Speaker 1: Is that a critical part of the movie. Did you

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Speaker 1: waste the whole thing for me?

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Speaker 4: Ah?

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it's critical, but you haven't seen Young Guns.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I have you. I don't think I have.

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Speaker 3: The greatest films ever ever made.

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Speaker 1: I mean I was reading a list just the other

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Speaker 1: day that had sound and music, Wizard of Oz, Young

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Speaker 1: Guns right there, top three, right, great films of all time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you haven't seen the Wizard of Oz.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm being sarcastic. I'm saying you're saying it's one

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Speaker 1: of the great films of all time. I believe, personally,

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Speaker 1: Rob this goes back to one of my great radio

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Speaker 1: segments of all time that I'm shocked didn't win me

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Speaker 1: a Marconi. I personally believe I did an entire segment

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Speaker 1: on this one time. Derek Schultzen I got into a

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Speaker 1: furious debate and argument at this didn't talk to each

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Speaker 1: other for six months. It was the best six months

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Speaker 1: in my life. I believe that The Wizard of Oz

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Speaker 1: is the most widely It is the movie that has

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Speaker 1: been seen by the highest percentage of living Americans.

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Speaker 3: Your thoughts, living Americans, I would say that's probably correct.

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Speaker 3: I would say if you include those that are living

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Speaker 3: and those deceased, gone with the wind, might actually take

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Speaker 3: the honors. But yeah, I would say live in American.

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Speaker 1: The thing about Wizard of Oz is like it's one

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Speaker 1: of those movies though that most people you can't even

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Speaker 1: remember the first time you've seen it. You just have

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Speaker 1: all You're just like, I don't know, I've just seen

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Speaker 1: I've seen it a hundred times, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Totally agree, But let's not get sidetracked here. I am

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Speaker 3: thoroughly disappointed.

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Speaker 1: I try, I try to throw you off the scent

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Speaker 1: there of you're you're a gast of horror with this. Hey,

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Speaker 1: I want to get back into real quick talking about Jacobson,

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Speaker 1: And you know, you mentioned the fact that a year ago,

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Speaker 1: you know, Daniel Jacobson to me is fascinating because we

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Speaker 1: so often rob think of guys as who it is

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Speaker 1: that they're replacing. So you look at him and you go, well,

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Speaker 1: they had Zach Edy and now Jacobson. You know, they

679
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Speaker 1: got another seven to four guy, and here goes Matt

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Speaker 1: Painter again. But to me, he looked like and I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying Zach Edy wasn't a remarkably fluid player for

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Speaker 1: his size, because he was, but he wasn't early on.

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Speaker 1: Jacobson to me, appears to have a natural fluidity about

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Speaker 1: him from the get go. That we have not seen before.

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Speaker 1: Am I off base there? What kind of a player

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Speaker 1: or what kind of use will they will they try

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Speaker 1: to involve him with.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly more fluid, I think, just as a guy

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Speaker 3: that doesn't play like he's seven foot four can step

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Speaker 3: out and shoot the three, has done that consistently in practice.

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Speaker 3: That's obviously something Zach Edy never did. Now it's ironic

692
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Speaker 3: that Zach's doing that in the NBA now, but he

693
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Speaker 3: made only one three point basket his whole Purdue career.

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Speaker 3: And also very light and nimble on his feet is

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Speaker 3: Daniel Jacobson. That's what makes him such a good rem protector. Certainly,

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Speaker 3: not his physical as Zach Edy, not even close to

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Speaker 3: the physical physicality that Zach Edy had in the low post,

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Speaker 3: but nimble on his feet, real, really real good sense

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Speaker 3: of timing when it comes to blocking shots, really good

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Speaker 3: sense for that. So again that's where it's Purdue's going

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Speaker 3: to be looking for help in those areas. As I

702
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Speaker 3: mentioned earlier with Oscar Cluff, that's where Daniel Jacobson is

703
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Speaker 3: really going to help out. But yes, I would agree,

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Speaker 3: yes both are you know Zach seven foot four, Daniel

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Speaker 3: seven foot four. Everyone wants just to make the automatic

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Speaker 3: comparison that they're one and the same, when when you're right,

707
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Speaker 3: there are two really very different players.

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Speaker 1: Lastly, Rob, before we let you go, I'd been remissed

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Speaker 1: by didn't ask you about the football side of things,

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Speaker 1: because obviously you work on that broadcast as well. Tough

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Speaker 1: one at Minnesota. I thought, actually Purdue kind of had

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Speaker 1: that one. It got away from him a little bit.

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Speaker 1: What areas I guess have even though I realize, I

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Speaker 1: mean Barry Otems groups lost four in a row, but

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Speaker 1: I do think that they seem sound you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. I think they just seem like a group

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Speaker 1: that is a little more disciplined than what we saw

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Speaker 1: a year ago. The area that they need to really

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Speaker 1: shore up here before they go into Northwestern and then

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Speaker 1: take on Rutgers.

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Speaker 3: Well, if you're going to give, if you want one answer,

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Speaker 3: it would be turnovers. I mean, Purdue is minus ten

723
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Speaker 3: in the turnover game right now, and that's through six games.

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Speaker 3: It's impossible to win in the Big Ten when you're

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Speaker 3: minus ten on the season. Perdue has only two takeaways defensively,

726
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Speaker 3: one interception, one fumble recovery. As crazy as that sounds,

727
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Speaker 3: we're through six games now, but that would be the

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Speaker 3: one area that absolutely if Purdue could just just flip

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Speaker 3: the script in the turnover game, even in save this

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Speaker 3: upcoming game against Northwest, and you feel pretty good that

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Speaker 3: Purdue could win. I watching that game, and if my

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Speaker 3: own two eyes on Saturday night in Minnesota, I thoroughly

733
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Speaker 3: felt like Purdue was the better team. You know, they

734
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Speaker 3: held Minnesota to just thirty yards rushing, and this is

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Speaker 3: Minnesota team that makes its living by running a football.

736
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Speaker 3: Purdue was was able to run the football themselves. Purdue

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Speaker 3: marched the ball up and down the field all game long,

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Speaker 3: quite frankly, and other than really two offensive series from Minnesota,

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Speaker 3: the Gophers didn't do anything offensively. So I felt like

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Speaker 3: Purdue was the better team. But hey, you know, at

741
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Speaker 3: the end of the day, it's all about what the

742
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Speaker 3: final score is for who the better team was. But

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Speaker 3: that would be yes if I'm you know, if the

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Speaker 3: question is, what's the one thing you start right there

745
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Speaker 3: with turnovers? If Purdue could just even get even in

746
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Speaker 3: the turnover game, I do feel like produe still has

747
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Speaker 3: two or three wins left on the schedule in front

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Speaker 3: of them.

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Speaker 1: Here again, Purdue number one in college basketball college football

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Speaker 1: for the boiler Makers. It is upcoming at Northwestern this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Rob appreciate the time as always, Man.

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Speaker 3: Yes, now go run young Guns tonight.

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Speaker 1: I will. I'll head right over to Blockbuster on my

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Speaker 1: way home. Yes, I'll even rewind right, don't be fine,

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Speaker 1: That's right, all right, Rob, appreciate it Rob Blackman joining

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Speaker 1: us on the program We Come Back. I mentioned in

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00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: college football Kurt Signetti has people talking and not necessarily

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Speaker 1: favorably all the time, and who might be suddenly perking

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Speaker 1: some ears in state college about Penn State when it

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Speaker 1: comes to the state of Indiana. I'll explain next. Thank

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Speaker 1: you to Rob Blackman for his time. Also appreciate, by

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Speaker 1: the way, the following tweet that was sent to me

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Speaker 1: from John. Hey, Jake, opening segment was so good. You've

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Speaker 1: got away with putting things in perspective without sounding fake

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Speaker 1: or forced. Wishing you continued success and good health, John.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that very much. I am both probably fake

767
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Speaker 1: and forced depending on who you ask, But I don't know, Corbyn,

768
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Speaker 1: what do you think you? Eddie is typically the guy

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Speaker 1: that has to spend three hours a day with me,

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Speaker 1: and you are now in here Corbyn Langenfelter, by the way,

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Speaker 1: who is also the master control operator and producer for

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Speaker 1: the IndyCar Radio Network. But typically when people, if my

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Speaker 1: name comes up, you tell them that I'm fake, fake

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Speaker 1: and forced. Right. Sure, so, John, I'm glad. I I'm

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Speaker 1: glad I fooled you. No, I appreciate the kind words.

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Speaker 1: Paul Finebaum is a guy that has obviously been a

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Speaker 1: long time college football mostly SEC honk. I like Bomb

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Speaker 1: Fine Bomb. I think he you know, he does a

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Speaker 1: good job, but he is rooted in the Southeast. He

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Speaker 1: has long been, and I certainly understand it, an advocate

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Speaker 1: for the strength of the SEC. And I think that

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Speaker 1: he is slow to the party of accepting and acknowledging

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Speaker 1: that Indiana is here and Indiana perhaps might be here

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Speaker 1: to stay. But I found this interesting. He was on

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Speaker 1: with Matt Barry The Matt Berry Show, which is presented

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Speaker 1: by All State on ESPN, where they taught college football

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Speaker 1: and Fine Bomb has been i'll say, a skeptic when

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Speaker 1: it comes to Kurt Signetti and acknowledging that Indiana and

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Speaker 1: what they did last year might not have been a

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Speaker 1: flash in the pan fluke, but might in fact not

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Speaker 1: being fake and forced, but might be for real. And

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Speaker 1: he was asked, was Paul Finebaum about Kurt Signetti, and

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Speaker 1: notably was asked basically Matt Barry said, look, you don't

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Speaker 1: like the guy, do you? And Fine Bomb had the

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Speaker 1: following to say, no, I mean.

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Speaker 5: They answered pretty simple, I think you know me, I

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Speaker 5: should right, I mean, I respect him to no n

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Speaker 5: But he's brash, he's over the top. He's had the

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Speaker 5: last laugh, which is a really great attribute for somebody

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Speaker 5: who is successful, and he's probably laughing right now watching

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00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 5: this guy with no hair gave me no shot. He

802
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 5: laughed at me, and look who's got to laugh now.

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Speaker 5: Indiana has absolutely nothing going for it, or had nothing

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Speaker 5: going for it until Signetti got there. And we can

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Speaker 5: sit here at the rest of the afternoon and try

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Speaker 5: to find more reasons, but it comes down to him.

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Speaker 1: It's that simple. And that's the thing that to me

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Speaker 1: is curious for Fine Bomb to finally acknowledge Signetti and say, look,

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Speaker 1: I don't like him. He's brash, he's in your face,

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00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: he's arrogant, he's all those things. But he does win

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Speaker 1: and he is the reason Indiana has turned this around,

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Speaker 1: and that's significant to me. Because Signetti does have on

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Speaker 1: his resume, of course, connection to working for Alabama and

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Speaker 1: Nick Saban And while Alabama has steadied the ship a

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Speaker 1: little bit here, while a lot of people talk about

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Speaker 1: Signetti with Penn State, and I don't think Signetti has

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Speaker 1: any interest in leaving Indiana, but you do wonder if

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Speaker 1: Alabama ever came open, he would be at the top

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Speaker 1: of anybody's list. As for Penn State, there is now

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Speaker 1: speculation that another name, I think Matt Ruhle, is the

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Speaker 1: clubhouse leader for that job. I mentioned it only because

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Speaker 1: Signetty has been mentioned, because he's a Pennsylvania native. I

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Speaker 1: don't think that that's a possibility. But Marcus Freeman of

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame is now one that there are reports out

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Speaker 1: of Pennsylvania that perhaps Penn State could place a call

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Speaker 1: to South Bend. And Marcus Freeman, again, why would you

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Speaker 1: leave Notre Dame in the situation he has for Penn State.

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Speaker 1: I guess it all comes down to dollars, right, But

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Speaker 1: interesting thing to keep an eye on, Steven Holder when

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Speaker 1: it comes to the Colts. There is one area that

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Speaker 1: on a really good looking Tuesday outside. My name is

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Speaker 1: Stevenholder joining me. Steven, I'm going to begin with this.

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Speaker 1: I'm mentioned this off the top of the show going

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Speaker 1: into the season. I don't know that I anticipated that

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Speaker 1: the Colts would be right now the top of the

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Speaker 1: heap in terms of protecting the quarterback. Sacks allowed, the

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Speaker 1: Colts are giving up the fewest in the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: Is that because of the solidarity of this line or

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Speaker 1: because of just the way Daniel Jones is getting rid

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Speaker 1: of the football and the way Shaneestykeen is designing plays?

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Speaker 4: Terrible answer, But it's all of the above. Well, before

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Speaker 4: I go on, you know you've made it when you've

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Speaker 4: got your own.

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Speaker 1: Discount code, don't you love?

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Speaker 4: That's that's big time. Okay, I know people. I can

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Speaker 4: say that.

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Speaker 1: I know people.

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Speaker 4: So here's here's why. It's all of the above. Because

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Speaker 4: any one thing is not enough to achieve that. In

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Speaker 4: other words, like just you know, delivering the football quickly

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Speaker 4: is not enough because those throws won't all ways be

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Speaker 4: available to you, or just an offensive line being really good.

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Speaker 4: That's not singularly enough. It has to be all of

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Speaker 4: it and here's why because or here's how that's happening.

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Speaker 4: I should say they have a situation where all those

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Speaker 4: things are sort of intersecting, if you will. Right, why

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Speaker 4: is Daniel Jones able to get the ball out quickly?

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Speaker 4: To some degree, it's because Shane Stykeen is very skilled

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Speaker 4: at putting together really good route combinations and getting guys open.

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Speaker 4: It's also a product of Daniel Jones understanding the coverage

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Speaker 4: before the snap, which is the most important part, right,

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Speaker 4: It's what got him the job, is his ability to

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Speaker 4: understand what's happening before the snap and then what he

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Speaker 4: does behind closed doors money through Friday too, right, So

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Speaker 4: that is playing out as well. And then you have

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Speaker 4: an offensive line that I think has exceeded expectations. I

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Speaker 4: didn't think they would be bad. I never said that,

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Speaker 4: but I thought this might be a process, like it

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Speaker 4: might take some time for these particular five guys to

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Speaker 4: really gel. They've gelled I think from day one, frankly,

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Speaker 4: and this has been a really good group. So it's

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Speaker 4: all coming together. Pass protection is a function of all

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Speaker 4: of that, and they're getting great performances in all of

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Speaker 4: those areas.

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Speaker 1: Steven, when you look at you know Daniel Jones in

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Speaker 1: general and what he's done this year. It really is

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Speaker 1: a great story. I mean, it might be the best

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Speaker 1: story in the National Football League right now, just the

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Speaker 1: stability here and whether you know, and I think people

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Speaker 1: are starting to figure out, gosh, maybe he wasn't the

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Speaker 1: total problem in New York. But having said all of that,

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Speaker 1: and I realized this is probably something I'm going to

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Speaker 1: ask you weekly and it will maybe get tiresome in

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Speaker 1: that regard. But when do you believe that the Colts

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Speaker 1: really will sit down and determine whether or not this

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Speaker 1: is the answer to all of their problems going forward,

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Speaker 1: or is it in fact a Sam Donald possibility of

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Speaker 1: a one year turnaround and then you hand it back

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Speaker 1: over to someone else.

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Speaker 4: Well, the first thing I'd say regarding the Sam Donald

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Speaker 4: part of your question is that is not a comparable situation, right,

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Speaker 4: because they did have a first round pick who they drafted,

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Speaker 4: who was waiting in the wings, and you know, we

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Speaker 4: still don't know.

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Speaker 1: A lot Minnesota.

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Speaker 4: Minnesota, correct, sorry that we still don't know a lot

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Speaker 4: about J. J. McCarthy, who they had drafted the in

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Speaker 4: fact around at the same time the same spring where

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Speaker 4: they draft where they signed Sam Donald, But I would

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Speaker 4: say this, they at least knew the player and had

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Speaker 4: had held him in high regard, so they didn't have

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Speaker 4: the same sort of calculation that the Colts will have

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Speaker 4: to make. I think, as we say here today, I

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Speaker 4: see no reason Daniel Jones won't be back here. But

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Speaker 4: I also would say you don't have to make that

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Speaker 4: decision right now, nor will they. I will say that

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Speaker 4: it has already been broached in like internally, like all right,

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Speaker 4: this is probably gonna work, like we can probably make

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Speaker 4: this work beyond this year. That has been broached, but

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Speaker 4: no one's going to do anything about it like actively

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Speaker 4: right now. I don't think Daniel Jones is even going

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Speaker 4: there right now, right I mean, here's why we're six

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Speaker 4: games in their defensive matchups, the offense coats offense versus

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Speaker 4: opponent defense. Those matchups are going to intensify. They're gonna

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Speaker 4: get a lot tougher. I don't know that they're necessarily

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Speaker 4: playing a really difficult schedule the rest of the way.

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Speaker 4: I believe I saw the ESPN projections. I believe the

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Speaker 4: remaining strength of schedule is right in the middle. I

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Speaker 4: think it's like fifteenth. So they have an average remaining schedule,

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Speaker 4: not too hard, not too easy, but specifically, the defenses

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Speaker 4: they are going to face do get better over the

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Speaker 4: course of the remaining what eleven games, So that will

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Speaker 4: in turn tell us a lot about Daniel Jones, right,

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's going to be tested, I think in

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Speaker 4: some of those games. I don't think this is going

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Speaker 4: to be a situation where he goes in the tank.

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Speaker 4: I don't anticipate that happening. I think he's playing too

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Speaker 4: well for this to completely go the other way. Well,

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Speaker 4: there'd be some challenges probably, but I don't know that

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Speaker 4: it's going to be a wholesale situation where it changes

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Speaker 4: how we see this guy. I think this is real

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Speaker 4: and it's not only him. Shaang Staken is a huge

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Speaker 4: part of this, for sure, right, But a lot of

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Speaker 4: this is Daniel Jones really just being who he always was.

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Speaker 4: He's just in a better situation. And you know, maybe

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Speaker 4: the joke's on us, you know who knew?

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Speaker 1: And again probably something perhaps for later. But I have

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Speaker 1: a feeling on this, Steven, I want your thoughts on it,

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Speaker 1: and I feel bad for him. I do feel bad

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Speaker 1: for him because I mentioned yesterday he seems to be

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Speaker 1: a magnet for the bizarre, but at no fault of

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Speaker 1: his I realize, But just knowing you know all that's

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Speaker 1: gone into it, did this injury seal the end of

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Speaker 1: the era for Anthony Richardson in Indianapolis?

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I would say at minimum, it brings

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Speaker 4: us closer to that that likelihood. I think that's what

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Speaker 4: i'd say. I mean, I don't think this singularly pushes

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Speaker 4: it over the edge. I mean, I think it was

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Speaker 4: likely before this, it's likely now that he doesn't play

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Speaker 4: here next year. I think that's that's where this ends up.

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Speaker 4: But I just think it probably is another nail in

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Speaker 4: the coffin. Though I think that's fair. And here's why,

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Speaker 4: because I don't know how this is going to go

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Speaker 4: for a sure, but it does seem like they're going

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Speaker 4: to bring in another quarterback. I don't know who that

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Speaker 4: will be. If they bring in another quarterback, then that

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Speaker 4: person now gets all of the reps as the number two,

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Speaker 4: number two QB. That person gets ingrained. Meanwhile, Anthony Richardson

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Speaker 4: is not participating, he's not developing, he's not getting that

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Speaker 4: experience that they say he badly needs. So it doesn't help.

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Speaker 4: It absolutely does not help.

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Speaker 1: You know, Stephen the and again then you wonder, I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is but does he have value elsewhere? Anthony Richardson?

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Speaker 1: I mean, is there a team that's going to take

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Speaker 1: a flyer on him?

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Speaker 4: I mean I think, yeah, I think he'll be somewhere

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Speaker 4: for sure, whether now what it looks like, what his

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Speaker 4: role looks like, that's harder to project. But there are

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Speaker 4: worse or less talented quarterbacks and Anthony Richardson, who who'll

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Speaker 4: get second chances? Who weren't you know, the number four

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Speaker 4: overall pick. I mean, I do think he has a lot.

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Speaker 1: To live down.

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Speaker 4: Okay, he has some you know some like Samans not samanthis,

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Speaker 4: I guess, you know, the the the how people perceive him, perceptions.

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Speaker 4: I guess right, he has some perceptions that he has

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Speaker 4: to live down. Whether it's you know, the tap out

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Speaker 4: or whether it's you know, does he or does he

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Speaker 4: not work hard enough? You know what I mean? Like,

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Speaker 4: I think those questions are out there and he has

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Speaker 4: to confront them. Some of them are fair, some of

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Speaker 4: them are not. Let's just be honest, right, But but

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Speaker 4: they're out there and he's going to have to confront them.

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Speaker 4: But uh, he you it could be something where it

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Speaker 4: doesn't cost you a lot of money. Let's say, for example,

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Speaker 4: let's say he gets traded after this season. No idea

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Speaker 4: if that's going to happen, but you can cut him,

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Speaker 4: you could trade him. Let's say he gets traded, which

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Speaker 4: is where I predict this would go. That's just you know,

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Speaker 4: way too early prediction. Right, You're gonna get him, probably

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Speaker 4: for not much money. I don't know what the trade

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Speaker 4: compensation would be, but probably.

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Speaker 1: Not a ton.

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Speaker 4: And what is the harm? Right, what is the harm?

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Speaker 4: You know you saw that with the Daniel Jones to

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Speaker 4: some degree last year in the middle of the season

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Speaker 4: when the Vikings brought him in, and and when when

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Speaker 4: when that season ended this past spring, the Giants did

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Speaker 4: make excuse me, the the Vikings did make a concerted

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Speaker 4: effort to keep him. They just weren't prepared to pay

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Speaker 4: fourteen million dollars when they had a viable quarterback in

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Speaker 4: JJ McCarthy. But they they were serious about retaining him.

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Speaker 4: So I fail that to say there will be some

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Speaker 4: kind of market for Anthony Richardson. Whether it ends up

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Speaker 4: being whether the result ends up being what he really wants,

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Speaker 4: that's harder to say. But I think he'll be somewhere

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Speaker 4: and someone will give him a long look and we'll

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Speaker 4: see what happens from there.

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Speaker 1: Stephen holders our guests from ESPN dot com. He is

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Speaker 1: on the Java House, Piela and poor guest line Stephen.

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Speaker 1: The pass rush an area that you know, interestingly enough,

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Speaker 1: the Chargers are fairly susceptible at getting to justin Herbert.

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Speaker 1: That's one area where they have not been as strong

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Speaker 1: as Indianapolis and protecting their quarterback. But and the Colts

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Speaker 1: have had their moments right, but they've invested so much

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Speaker 1: in pass rush. Is it where you think they thought

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Speaker 1: it would be at this point? And if not, what

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Speaker 1: can they do to jumpstart it?

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's where they hoped it would be.

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Speaker 4: It's okay, That's all I can say about right, It's

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Speaker 4: just okay. And frankly, I think the fact that from

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Speaker 4: week to week my answer kind of changes it tells

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Speaker 4: you all you need to know. And what I mean

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Speaker 4: by that it is like I think a couple of

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Speaker 4: weeks ago, I was like, well, you know what, Watson's

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Speaker 4: really taken another step here, and if that's the case,

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Speaker 4: they're going to be pretty good. But then the next week.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of feels like Jacobe has all day in

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Speaker 4: the pocket and you're like, are they even out there?

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Speaker 4: You know, And you know, Quity Pay did have a

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Speaker 4: good game, and that was kind of the first time

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Speaker 4: I really felt like Quitty impacted them in a consistent

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Speaker 4: way throughout the game. But that's the problem, right, It's

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Speaker 4: like one game somebody's somebody has some impact. The rest

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Speaker 4: of the guys are quiet. I'm not seeing that that

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Speaker 4: across the board. Efforts all come together where everybody's hitting

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Speaker 4: on the same day, and with what they have, they

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Speaker 4: should get more of that because they have a lot

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Speaker 4: of veterans. As you said, they have a lot of

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Speaker 4: capital invested there, both financial and draft capital. This unit

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Speaker 4: needs to be more impactful. They are, I believe in

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Speaker 4: the top five in the NFL, and defensive line spending.

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Speaker 4: You've got to get more bang for your bucks, period.

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Speaker 4: That is just unequivocal. And they are going to see

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Speaker 4: tougher quarterbacks as they go on. So this is going

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Speaker 4: to be I think front and center for the Colts.

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Speaker 1: Where do things stand in terms of their defensive backfield

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00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: Because you know, Savarius Mooney Ward really good player, freak

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Speaker 1: concussion that knocks him out. You've got to consider the

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Speaker 1: fact that you don't know what the availability is there

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Speaker 1: and they are still looking at practice, squad plays elsewhere.

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Speaker 1: That is an area I feel bad, Steven for Chris

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Speaker 1: Ballard in this regard and the fact that I think

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Speaker 1: he really did make a concerted effort to strengthen that

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Speaker 1: defensive backfield, and at no fault of his or anybody

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Speaker 1: else's due to freak circumstance, they're just not flat out healthy.

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Speaker 1: Where do things stand down in terms of who may

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Speaker 1: be in and what they may need to do to

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Speaker 1: shore that up?

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Speaker 4: All right? Where do they stand?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 4: I mean are you available?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? No, seriously, I mean I mean it's bad. You know,

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Speaker 1: I come with a discount code.

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Speaker 4: That's right, This is perfect, right, that's right. You know

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Speaker 4: who has cap money in October? You gotta look for

1088
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 4: like bargains, right, So, yeah, it's bad. I mean, look,

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Speaker 4: think the thing about Ward that you've got to remember

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Speaker 4: is this is his second concussion in a very short span.

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Speaker 4: He had he sat out week two, I believe, right,

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Speaker 4: So you know this is tough man, and I don't

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Speaker 4: know that we can sit here and pretend he's gonna

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Speaker 4: play on Sunday. I have no idea, but I think

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Speaker 4: to assume that he has a likely shot of playing

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Speaker 4: as probably fool's goal right now. Right, So Kenny Moore

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01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 4: than meanwhile, not really seeing any recent progress there. I

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Speaker 4: get tomorrow's the next mile post on him. Well, he

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Speaker 4: returned to practice. But even if he does practice a

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Speaker 4: little this week, I mean he's been out three weeks.

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Speaker 4: Is he's just gonna roll out of bed and play,

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Speaker 4: I don't know. Does he has to ramp up? You know?

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Speaker 4: Jalen Jalen Jones. They would kill for him right now,

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Speaker 4: but I don't know if he's any uh. I mean

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Speaker 4: he's closer, but I don't know that he's on the

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Speaker 4: verge of returning. So they're nowhere and they're gonna have

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Speaker 4: to buckle down and get what they can out of

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Speaker 4: these young guys, you know. So it's the uh, it's

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Speaker 4: some of these undrafted guys in many cases who you know,

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Speaker 4: people are just learning their names. Hell, I'm just learning

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Speaker 4: some of their names, you know. And I think it

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Speaker 4: is what it is. It's it's gonna be tough, and

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Speaker 4: it's gonna put perhaps more more strain or more pressure

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01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 4: on the offense uh to get the job done because

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01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 4: on the back end of the defense, the likelihood of

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Speaker 4: them giving up some points is pretty high right now.

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Speaker 4: And I don't think there are any great and easy answers.

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Speaker 4: They're plucking guys off of waivers right now, and that

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Speaker 4: tells you everything about what you need to know about

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Speaker 4: where they are.

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Speaker 1: Steven, when you are you're sitting at home right You're

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Speaker 1: sitting there and you're you're reading about Tennessee making a

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Speaker 1: coaching change, and you're wondering what that means for cam

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Speaker 1: Ward who came out of the same school as you,

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Speaker 1: so he've been paying a little attention to the way

1126
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Speaker 1: he's going to jump start his NFL career. And you're like, man,

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01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 1: this is like Trevor Lawrence all over again. You know,

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Speaker 1: you got a rookie quarterback with a lot of promise,

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Speaker 1: and there's upheaval in the coaching situation. So you're reading

1130
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Speaker 1: about all of that and your editor at ESPN calls

1131
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 1: you and he says, Steven, Bill here, your editor. You say, hey, Bill.

1132
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 1: He says, listen, we got all this stuff going on.

1133
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 1: And the Colts are They're five and one, they're the

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Speaker 1: number one seed. In the AFC, and we want to

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Speaker 1: really do something original. We want to do something really unique,

1136
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 1: and we want you to write a column about what

1137
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 1: it is about the cults that no one's talking about.

1138
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 1: What do you tell Bill is your idea?

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Speaker 4: H Well, I think it's I don't know if this

1140
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 4: makes a great story, but it's definitely important. There's a

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01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 4: confidence right now. And I think Michael Pittman said it

1142
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 4: yesterday and maybe I should have picked up on this earlier,

1143
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 4: but maybe it just comes from winning. But he said,

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01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 4: this feels like twenty twenty when Philip Rivers came here,

1145
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 4: and I think Rivers kind of infused that locker room

1146
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 4: with the confidence, because you know, there's a swagger when

1147
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 4: you're Philip Rivers, right and you've been doing it for

1148
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 4: you know, fifteen or sixteen seasons, okay, and have the

1149
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Speaker 4: resume that he had, so he brought that with him

1150
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Speaker 4: and you know, sort of infused that locker room with

1151
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Speaker 4: a lot of confidence and raised everybody's level. And right

1152
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 4: now they have a little bit of that, he said.

1153
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Speaker 4: Pittman said, we just expect to win every game. And

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Speaker 4: it sounds like a cliche line. It's not the first

1155
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 4: time I've heard a player say something like that, but

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Speaker 4: I think this was different, and I think you see

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01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 4: it when you're in the locker room. You feel it

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01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:57,919
Speaker 4: like they they are now expecting to win, like they're

1159
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 4: not surprised anymore. You know, we were certainly surprised at

1160
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 4: they're five and one, But expectations change when you have

1161
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 4: success externally, but they also changed internally. And this is

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Speaker 4: a team that right now has like an expectation of

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Speaker 4: itself that we win, that's what we do. And where

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Speaker 4: does that come from? I think a couple of places.

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Speaker 4: Number one, Shane Stikeen. It's weird, like he's not maybe

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Speaker 4: the most you know, I don't know if he's like

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Speaker 4: the most raw Raw Coast per se, but he's intense,

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Speaker 4: and I think his intensity and his expectations of his players,

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Speaker 4: I think that raises the bar. And then there's there's

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Speaker 4: Daniel Jones. Man, that's just a part of it. Like

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Speaker 4: when the quarterback is getting it done. Even though Daniel

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Speaker 4: Jones is quiet and he doesn't say much, and you know,

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Speaker 4: I don't know what kind of presence he has per

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Speaker 4: se in the locker room, but when he's getting it done,

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Speaker 4: players respond to that. If they respond to nothing else,

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Speaker 4: they respond to a guy who's playing really well. And

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Speaker 4: there's a confidence here that it's hard to capture maybe

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Speaker 4: in words, but when you're around it, you see it

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Speaker 4: and you feel it.

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Speaker 1: You know. Daniel Jones is interesting to me, Steven, because

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Speaker 1: Stevenholder ESPN dot Com. I guess we still don't know

1182
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 1: a lot about him. You know, he's a quiet guy.

1183
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 1: And I'm talking about the fan base, even the media.

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01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 1: You know, he's new here obviously, but he doesn't come

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Speaker 1: in with that Philip Rivers Bravada. Right. So, if if

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Speaker 1: a quarterback was a was an automobile, you know, like

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01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's a Ferrari. I mean, he's sleek, he's fast,

1188
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 1: he's you know, he looks the part Josh Allen would be.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know what Josh Allen would be.

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Speaker 1: Probably like a like a Camaro, right, a little bit

1191
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 1: more muscle to it, but yet still fast when it

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01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 1: needs to be. What kind of car from a personality standpoint,

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01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 1: from when you've been around him, what kind of car

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Speaker 1: is Daniel Jones? And I'm saying this to illustrate to

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Speaker 1: listeners just what kind of dude he is?

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Speaker 4: This actually a great question. I actually think he's like

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01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 4: like alexis SUV, like the small ones, the crossovers. You

1198
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 4: know that they can they can run for like thirty years. Okay,

1199
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Speaker 4: just change the oil. But they're also nice, right, they're

1200
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Speaker 4: they're not it's not it's not you know, it's it's

1201
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 4: not a supercar. It's not sexy necessarily but nice, reliable. Uh,

1202
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 4: you never have to worry about it. It is. It

1203
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 4: blends in right, it's not what did you say, Josh

1204
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 4: Allen is a Camaro? Yeah, maybe not supercharged Camaro or

1205
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 4: or you know, Corvette. But also if you drove it

1206
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 4: to you know, if you parked it at the the

1207
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 4: valet at Saint Elmos, nobody be looking at you like

1208
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 4: really right, so you fit in? Right, It's it's perfect,

1209
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 4: It's so, it's it's it's first of all, you can

1210
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 4: you can drive to the grocery store. You can drive

1211
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Speaker 4: it out.

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Speaker 1: I mean when he's when when Daniel Jones walks into

1213
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Speaker 1: the locker room, is he the guy that players stop

1214
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Speaker 1: like Peyton Manning when you walk in the locker room,

1215
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 1: like everybody stopped, like, okay, what's the mood? You know?

1216
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 1: And Andrew Luck when he'd walk in the locker room

1217
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Speaker 1: like kind of had a goofiness about him. Of guys

1218
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Speaker 1: you could tell just they knew he was in charge.

1219
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Speaker 1: Is Jones that kind of guy?

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Speaker 4: Yes, in a in a way that I think maybe

1221
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 4: you have to see, like for example, like you mentioned

1222
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 4: luck and you know the whole awe sucks thing that

1223
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Speaker 4: I think you know, people on the outside perceived it

1224
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 4: was true to a degree. He look he was he

1225
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Speaker 4: a nerd. Yes, that's true. He would tell you that.

1226
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Speaker 4: But at the same time, I have seen him two

1227
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Speaker 4: guys out things were Look, I've seen him two guys

1228
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Speaker 4: out and drop an F bomb and tell them where

1229
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Speaker 4: they need to be. With my own two eyes, I've

1230
01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 4: seen that, right. I haven't seen that from Daniel Jones,

1231
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 4: but I but there there is feedback from players who say,

1232
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Speaker 4: like he is demanding and there are the expectations are clear.

1233
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 4: I think he understands, like what what the expectation is

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Speaker 4: of a quarterback in terms of how how they should

1235
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Speaker 4: carry themselves and how they should be demanding of their

1236
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Speaker 4: of their teammates. Remember, you know he has a relationship

1237
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:26,640
Speaker 4: with the Mannings, right, so they understand that and and

1238
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 4: they imparted that on him. So I think some of

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01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 4: that comes from that, and some of it just comes

1240
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Speaker 4: from him just being, you know, Daniel Jones, really just

1241
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 4: being a someone who has high standards for himself. So

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Speaker 4: in that regard, I think yes, the answer is yes

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Speaker 4: to that that he is definitely he's not maybe in

1244
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 4: your face and and and maybe doesn't like heads don't

1245
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 4: turn when he walks in the room and all that,

1246
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 4: he's not that guy. But when it's time to work,

1247
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:59,520
Speaker 4: you know, like you don't half asked with Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 1: Stephen, what's new with what you're working on at ESPN

1249
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 1: dot com in terms of your coupveroage of the colts?

1250
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 4: So I'm writing about this some guy named Jonathan Taylor.

1251
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 4: So he's leading the league in rushing, right. But I

1252
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 4: think the question for me is or I think what's

1253
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:19,480
Speaker 4: interesting for me is there were a couple of seasons,

1254
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 4: you know, twenty two and twenty three where you wondered, like,

1255
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Speaker 4: all right, is he ever going to be that guy again?

1256
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 4: He was good, but he kept getting hurt and you know,

1257
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Speaker 4: he had to hold out and all that, and there

1258
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Speaker 4: was a moment there where I think he was a

1259
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Speaker 4: little bit forgotten maybe nationally, right, we still appreciated him locally,

1260
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 4: but I think nationally people had moved on. Say, Kwon

1261
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Speaker 4: Barkley's out there running for two thousand yards, Derrick Henry

1262
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Speaker 4: the second act in Baltimore, right, And what Jonathan Taylor

1263
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 4: has shown us last year and already this year is

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Speaker 4: that I'm not done yet, Like I'm still that guy.

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Speaker 4: And I think it's pretty remarkable to see because it

1266
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:02,759
Speaker 4: doesn't always happen with running backs. A lot of times

1267
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Speaker 4: they flash in the pan for two or three years

1268
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Speaker 4: and then they're never the same guy. This guy shows

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Speaker 4: that he is and that's pretty worthwhile.

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Speaker 1: Stephenholder ESPN dot com appreciate the time as always. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk to you soon.

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Speaker 4: All right, all right, you got it.

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Speaker 1: Stephen Holder, who himself, by the way, uh solid corvette. Stephen,

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Speaker 1: by the way, drives a super nice car, by the way,

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01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 1: like this this kind of uppity, really his car uppity,

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01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 1: uh you know, four in one of those like you know,

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01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:34,680
Speaker 1: oil change eight hundred bucks, that kind of thing. I

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01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 1: do know that from Steven, which is representative of Stephen

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01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 1: because when you look at him, he just he's not

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01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:43,760
Speaker 1: uppity by any stretch. Of the imagination. But but a

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01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:46,560
Speaker 1: but a swave looking guy, right, Corman, what kind of

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01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:52,599
Speaker 1: car would I be? A good old nineties Bronco. Wait

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01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 1: the OJ car? Thanks, I'm the OJ Car. Than appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: Last night Pacer game, I was there, there were a

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01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 1: couple of things that jumped out at me. One that

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01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:04,640
Speaker 1: I saw that I went wow, and one that I

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01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 1: was hoping to be wowed by and it didn't happen.

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01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:12,759
Speaker 1: We'll explain next. So last night I'm at the Pacer

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01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:18,599
Speaker 1: game and they're playing San Antonio and it's pre season.

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01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 1: I get it. So you know there's a and I'm

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01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 1: going to repeat what I said earlier. A couple of

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01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 1: years ago, the Pacers, in what was fairly unprecedented, hold

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01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 1: a media just kind of a finger food gathering, like

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01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 1: a social hour. Kevin Pritchard was there. I think Chad

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01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 1: Buchanan was there. I don't believe Rick Carlisle was. But

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01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 1: it was a really smart thing for all of us

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01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 1: that cover the team, you know, that are fortunate enough

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01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:56,680
Speaker 1: to cover the team to be down there to just

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01:11:56,800 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 1: kind of shoot the ball, meet and greet. And that

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01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 1: was when they had just acquired Tyrus Halliburton, they had

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01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:08,759
Speaker 1: traded away sobonus, and they basically were saying to those

1302
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:14,680
Speaker 1: that covered the Pacers, and and certainly from a media standpoint,

1303
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:18,720
Speaker 1: you know, our job is essentially just as a liaison

1304
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 1: between the brass or the coaches, the players and the

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01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 1: fan base. And and admittedly you know that that's that's

1306
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 1: a constantly evolving medium. But they were saying, listen, we're

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01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 1: asking you, guys and gals, while you're not you know,

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01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 1: obligated to do so, we are asking that you simply

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01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 1: let people know that that that we're going to require

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01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 1: some patience because we're starting this thing over again and

1311
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 1: it's gonna be We're gonna take our lumps. And to

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01:12:56,360 --> 01:13:00,599
Speaker 1: their credit, they hit on about everything. They rad Malcolm

1313
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 1: Brogden for Aaron Nesmith, they traded you know, obviously mentioned

1314
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:13,799
Speaker 1: Sabonas for Halliburton, They drafted Matherin, I mean, they signed Topping,

1315
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, look, I don't need to go

1316
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 1: over every single transaction. They were half away from winning

1317
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 1: the NBA title, so you all know how it worked out.

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01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:25,719
Speaker 1: So in the preseason, I'm having to remind myself that

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01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 1: they've earned the benefit of our doubt. They've earned it right,

1320
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 1: and so the the preseason right now, some of the

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01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 1: lumps that they're going to go through are some of

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01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:43,800
Speaker 1: the things that we're going to wait on. We probably

1323
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 1: have to be patient on again because it is and

1324
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 1: I know that they don't want to say a gap year,

1325
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 1: but it is to an extent because you have no

1326
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 1: Tyres Haliburton, Myles Turners in Milwaukee, and you don't know

1327
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 1: where that replacement's going to come, whether it be the

1328
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 1: you know, Jay Huff, James Wiseman, I love Isaiah Jackson,

1329
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 1: but all of those guys are kind of similar to

1330
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 1: one another in the fact that none of them really

1331
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 1: stretch out. But I'll get to that in a second.

1332
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 1: So as I'm thinking about all of that, and I'm

1333
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 1: watching this game, and I'm trying to figure out exactly

1334
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 1: who the Pacers are going to be this year, and

1335
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:27,640
Speaker 1: I'm having to remind myself that I'm not going to

1336
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:31,680
Speaker 1: know that in one game. But they announce at the

1337
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:33,800
Speaker 1: beginning of the game, They're like, you know, fans, put

1338
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 1: your hands together for Rick Smith's and Rick Smith's is

1339
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 1: sitting down there and he waves to the crowd, and

1340
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 1: I'm looking over at Rick Smit's and I'm going, okay,

1341
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 1: Rick SMIs is seven foot four and was a really

1342
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 1: good player in his era because he was one of

1343
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 1: the first big men that we had seen that could

1344
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:54,639
Speaker 1: step out and hit a fifteen foot shot and had

1345
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:58,720
Speaker 1: a really nice touch. And Rick Smitz was coming right

1346
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 1: off of the era of like Mark Eating, where seven

1347
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 1: foot four players were just these huge shot blocking bohemos

1348
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 1: and that was it. And Rick Smith's had about him

1349
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:12,720
Speaker 1: a mobility that we had not really seen from a

1350
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 1: guy that size, and it made life miserable for Patrick

1351
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:19,480
Speaker 1: Ewing and whatever else. But He's still at that point.

1352
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:22,519
Speaker 1: When he would hit a fifteen footer like he did

1353
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 1: to beat Orlando, it was like, oh my gosh, this

1354
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 1: guy's seven forty's hitting that. And I'm thinking about all

1355
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 1: of that as I look down back onto the floor

1356
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 1: to watch Victor Webermyama get a rebound, go between his legs,

1357
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:38,000
Speaker 1: bring it up the floor like a point guard, and

1358
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 1: then pull up and effortlessly drain a twenty eight foot shot,

1359
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 1: And all I could think to myself is, this is

1360
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 1: the evolution of the NBA today. The NBA today is

1361
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 1: truly positionless basketball, and yet the Pacers made it to

1362
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 1: one half away from the NBA by playing to some

1363
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 1: extent with guys in designated positions, but having a big

1364
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 1: that in Miles Turner, would stretch out the defense that

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01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 1: they were playing against because of the fact that Turner

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01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 1: would get a rebound. And then instead of Turner being

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01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 1: the one that would go between the legs and bring

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01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:21,440
Speaker 1: it up the floor like a point guard and effortlessly

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01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 1: hit a three, Turner would facilitate transition and then he

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01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 1: would trail and if they were not able to get

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01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 1: a fast transition basket, they kick it back out and

1372
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 1: as Turner is trailing, he's able to hit a three,

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01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 1: and defenses have to be aware of that. And it

1374
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 1: is going to be an adjustment in the fact that

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01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 1: neither Jay Huff, nor Isaiah Jackson, nor James Wiseman has

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01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:52,639
Speaker 1: shown that sort of an exterior capability, and that's going

1377
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 1: to be an adjustment. Now. I do believe and I

1378
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 1: think that they will go over the course of the

1379
01:16:56,960 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 1: year to assess that the center position to the Pacers

1380
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 1: is the quarterback position to the Colts. The quarterback position

1381
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 1: for the Colts. They had to go out and they

1382
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:11,800
Speaker 1: get Daniel Jones, and I think they found their long

1383
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 1: term answer. I think the Pacers are looking to see

1384
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 1: if one of those three guys is in fact Daniel Jones.

1385
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:22,439
Speaker 1: But in reality, they probably this time of year from now,

1386
01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 1: are going to be introducing us to perhaps a free

1387
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 1: agent or a player that they've traded for that is

1388
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:30,880
Speaker 1: going to be their next Miles Turner long term centerpiece.

1389
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 1: And one of the important aspects of that is a

1390
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 1: center that, as I've talked about in the high post,

1391
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 1: can facilitate through his passing game like Turner would do

1392
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:43,040
Speaker 1: with everybody running that kind of weave rotation at the

1393
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 1: top of the key and facilitating and getting for three

1394
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 1: point shooters. And I don't know that that guy's on

1395
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 1: the roster right now. Jay Huff, Again, it's one preseason game.

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01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:59,679
Speaker 1: It's one preseason game. But in terms of his passing ability,

1397
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:03,640
Speaker 1: in scilitating ability, I did admittedly expect to see a

1398
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 1: little more than what I saw last night, but it's

1399
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:13,160
Speaker 1: one preseason game now. Benedict Matherin was outstanding. Benedick Matherin

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01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 1: was I mean, he was pulling from everywhere. I think

1401
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 1: he was twelve or fourteen. He was perfect. In the

1402
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:25,960
Speaker 1: second quarter. He finishes with thirty one, okay, And I mean,

1403
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 1: just for example here on the text line, Jacob is

1404
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 1: the local Wizard super fan here in Indy, why do

1405
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 1: you hate us so much? We're always the example of

1406
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 1: poverty to you that from now I get it. Listen,

1407
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 1: I always just mentioned the Wizards because it's like, it's

1408
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:47,840
Speaker 1: not poverty. The Wizards, though, are the perfect example of

1409
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:50,320
Speaker 1: a team that seemingly and actually there was a nice

1410
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 1: little rivalry going on between the Pacers and Whiz a

1411
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:54,639
Speaker 1: couple a handful of years ago with that team when

1412
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:56,719
Speaker 1: the Wizards were healthy and Beale was there and Wall

1413
01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:59,680
Speaker 1: and I mean, they had a nice team. But it

1414
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 1: just feels like with Benedict Matherin, if he is going

1415
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 1: to be a point person hardened the pun for them

1416
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:10,439
Speaker 1: this year and in a guy that is going to be,

1417
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 1: as Rick Carlile said, when he is finding his shot

1418
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 1: within their offense, he's very effective. But if he's going

1419
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:21,760
Speaker 1: to have let's say that that Mathern averages eighteen and

1420
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 1: a half nineteen points per game, twenty points per game

1421
01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 1: this year, that is going to price him into an

1422
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:31,760
Speaker 1: area where a franchise that is looking for scoring is

1423
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:36,560
Speaker 1: going to overpay for him. The Pelicans, the Wizards, the Hornets,

1424
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 1: those kinds of a team, you know, all of a

1425
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:42,960
Speaker 1: sudden come along, you know, rebuilding Phoenix and it becomes

1426
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 1: like a Bradley Beal type player where somebody overpays for

1427
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 1: him or prices him out of the market. And that's

1428
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:50,240
Speaker 1: going to be the fine line for the Pacers right

1429
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 1: at not in no way, shape or form as an

1430
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 1: indictment on the relationship with Bennedict Mathern, but when you

1431
01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 1: look at the money that they've got tied up in

1432
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:03,439
Speaker 1: halibert In obviously what they're gonna you know, they're gonna

1433
01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:07,519
Speaker 1: have to extend Nie Smith, nim Hard, those guys, and

1434
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:11,679
Speaker 1: so then you can't afford to max deal or close

1435
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:14,760
Speaker 1: to it mather And if he has a big time year,

1436
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:17,719
Speaker 1: it is possible somebody's gonna offer, maybe not a Max deal,

1437
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:21,639
Speaker 1: but big time money and it might price Indiana out

1438
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:24,840
Speaker 1: of that. And that's one of the storylines I think

1439
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:27,799
Speaker 1: this year that's going to be very very interesting to watch.

1440
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:30,800
Speaker 1: Speaking of storylines, interesting to watch, another one happening on

1441
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:33,720
Speaker 1: West fifty sixth Street with the Colts back into that

1442
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 1: next look at you, Corbin spinning it out, Baby, You

1443
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 1: know there's a I've mentioned this several times before, but

1444
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:52,000
Speaker 1: years ago about every two years or so, and I'm

1445
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:53,679
Speaker 1: gonna get back into the colts here in a second,

1446
01:20:54,040 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 1: but every two years or so this story recedes, and

1447
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:02,599
Speaker 1: I always have to be like, no, no, no, no, no,

1448
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:07,000
Speaker 1: no, no no, it's not at all what I said. But

1449
01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:12,160
Speaker 1: Paradise City by Guns n' Roses Axel Rose, Isy Straddlin

1450
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:16,640
Speaker 1: from Lafayette right Lafayette JEF High School, and when I

1451
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 1: was in college, Appetite for Destruction came out when I

1452
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:21,639
Speaker 1: was a sophomore in high school. When I was in college,

1453
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 1: it was still you know, guns n' Roses were at

1454
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:29,599
Speaker 1: their apex. And when I was at Indiana, there became

1455
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 1: this like urban legend amongst IU students that Paradise City

1456
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:44,600
Speaker 1: was written by Axel Rose and Isy Straddlin about Bloomington

1457
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:48,800
Speaker 1: and about going down and partying in Bloomington when they

1458
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 1: were growing up in Lafayette. Because of course, when you're

1459
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:54,200
Speaker 1: at IU, it was like, man, there's no good looking

1460
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 1: girls at Perdue. They had to come to Bloomington to party.

1461
01:21:56,560 --> 01:22:00,280
Speaker 1: That was like this urban legend obviously not true. The

1462
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:03,920
Speaker 1: song is actually I'm sure about loss. Actually, I take

1463
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:05,240
Speaker 1: that back. I know the origin of the song. I

1464
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 1: don't think it's actually written about any specific city, but

1465
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 1: the lyrics were diffinite different. Originally it was instead of

1466
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:16,439
Speaker 1: where the girls are pretty, it was the girls have

1467
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 1: big and then you can fill in the rhyme, and

1468
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:23,440
Speaker 1: they changed the lyrics. But nonetheless, when I worked at WIBC,

1469
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 1: and I don't know if people remember this, but I

1470
01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 1: worked at WIBC in for like three weeks in two

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01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 1: thousand and seven, and when I was doing the morning

1472
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 1: show with Terry Stacey, somehow or another, that song came

1473
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 1: up and I told that exact story, and I under

1474
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:39,840
Speaker 1: the exact pretense of that of like, look, we know

1475
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:41,960
Speaker 1: this is not true, but this was the urban legend

1476
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 1: back in the late eighties and early nineties from people

1477
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 1: at IU. Somehow or another. There is a website that

1478
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 1: has like it's like songfacts dot com or something like that.

1479
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 1: An on said website, somebody, and I have no idea who.

1480
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:05,880
Speaker 1: Somebody at that time posted on there about Paradise City

1481
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:09,519
Speaker 1: and said, according to Jake Querry, a disc jockey at

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Speaker 1: WIBC Radio in Indianapolis, which a dish. I mean, we

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01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 1: didn't play music. I'm not disc jockey. And then it

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Speaker 1: says Querry, a close personal friend of Axel Rose's, claims

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01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:22,439
Speaker 1: that this was about when they were growing up in

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01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:26,000
Speaker 1: Lafayette together, and I'm so about every two years when

1487
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:29,720
Speaker 1: Indiana and Purdue play one another in any sport, somebody

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01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 1: somehow invariably finds that thing and then posts it like

1489
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:38,960
Speaker 1: on you know, barstool Indiana or whatever, and it goes

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01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:41,960
Speaker 1: viral and everybody's like, oh my gosh, Jake, like you

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01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 1: knew Axel Rose growing up, and I have to sit

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01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:45,680
Speaker 1: there and give the disclaimer all the time of No,

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01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 1: this was like the old phone drill game of misinterpreted

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01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 1: one hundred times over. So if you are just now

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01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:56,439
Speaker 1: for the first time hearing that, let me clarify that, No,

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Speaker 1: I did not grow up with Axel Rose. No, I've

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01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:00,680
Speaker 1: never met Axel Rose. No I've ever claimed that that

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01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:02,920
Speaker 1: was what the song emphatically was about. It was simply

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01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 1: an urgent legend from back in the day. And likewise,

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01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:08,600
Speaker 1: just so you know, Skyle's test did not really have

1501
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:11,919
Speaker 1: a house of blue lights with his wife buried underneath

1502
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 1: the glass bottom of a pool. You know, we can

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01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 1: go on and on and on. We talked to Stephen

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01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 1: Holder about this earlier. And I know that this is

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01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:25,760
Speaker 1: a subject that is enigmatic and we don't know definitives

1506
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:30,600
Speaker 1: about it. But I feel bad for Anthony Richardson. I

1507
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 1: really do, because I don't know Anthony Richardson. And I

1508
01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:43,639
Speaker 1: say that because, yes, when we are credentialed to cover teams,

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01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 1: when we're allowed to go and talk. You know, Kevin

1510
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:49,000
Speaker 1: Bowen talks to Colts players in the locker room, He

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01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 1: talks to them after practices, he watches them, he talks

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01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:55,639
Speaker 1: to them after games. James Boyd, Steven Holder, et cetera.

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01:24:55,960 --> 01:25:02,280
Speaker 1: We all do. It doesn't mean that we know what

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01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 1: their lives are behind closed doors. It's like the old

1515
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:10,600
Speaker 1: Roy Kent line and Ted Lasso. You know. As for

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01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 1: why Isaac did what he did, that's none of my business.

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01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 1: As for why or how people are in terms of

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01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 1: their personal lives and what's going on in their life,

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01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:27,720
Speaker 1: we have no idea we can get indicators or glimpses

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01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:30,799
Speaker 1: into their lives of who they are. And in Anthony

1521
01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:32,680
Speaker 1: Richardson's case, I think we've gotten a little of that.

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01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:36,640
Speaker 1: You know, I mentioned that I've seen the documentary or

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01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:39,160
Speaker 1: watched the documentary about him when he was in high school,

1524
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:43,240
Speaker 1: and there were a lot of things about him, or

1525
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:45,640
Speaker 1: are a lot of things about him that were very admirable.

1526
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:51,800
Speaker 1: He was essentially a latch key kid that was a

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01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 1: fatherlike figure for his younger brother. He went to a

1528
01:25:55,080 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 1: high school that did not have the you know, elaborate,

1529
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 1: financially invested resources from both a facility's standpoint for football

1530
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 1: and a coaching staff for football. I mean he had

1531
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:16,599
Speaker 1: and I admire this where he grew up in Florida.

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01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:19,160
Speaker 1: The documentary that I watched, I mentioned there was a

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01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:21,720
Speaker 1: show that was being done. I think what happened was

1534
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:24,160
Speaker 1: there was a film crew that decided that they were

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01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 1: going to do, you know, a reality series following three

1536
01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 1: prime five star high school football recruits for their senior year.

1537
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:35,840
Speaker 1: And then they were going to put it together. And

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01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:37,559
Speaker 1: my guess is they were going to sell it to

1539
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 1: Netflix or whatever else, and I don't think it ever

1540
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:42,800
Speaker 1: got picked up by a major outlet. And then later,

1541
01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:47,240
Speaker 1: you know, it was dispatched to a smaller website or whatever.

1542
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 1: And that's where I watched it, and it was Bryce

1543
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:52,120
Speaker 1: Young was one of the players. Anthony Richardson was one,

1544
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:53,840
Speaker 1: and the third one, I forget the kid's name. He

1545
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:57,080
Speaker 1: was from Texas, a big high school in Texas where

1546
01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:59,800
Speaker 1: football's king, and he ended up going to Iowa, and

1547
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:01,559
Speaker 1: I think maybe Texas, A and M or a couple

1548
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 1: of other places. But Richardson's coaches that he had were

1549
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:10,080
Speaker 1: you could tell, really good guys, I mean really good,

1550
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:13,639
Speaker 1: well intended guys, but they were there to coach life

1551
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:17,920
Speaker 1: more than coach football. And while other players had you know,

1552
01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:20,599
Speaker 1: Bryce Young was in a big time program at high

1553
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:24,120
Speaker 1: school program in California and had a position coach that

1554
01:27:24,240 --> 01:27:27,080
Speaker 1: was working with him on his footwork and his throwing

1555
01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:29,519
Speaker 1: motion and his release point in all of those things,

1556
01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 1: and Anthony Richardson, it was like, you know, these guys

1557
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:36,519
Speaker 1: were more just mentoring them as young people and there's

1558
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:39,639
Speaker 1: a place for I mean, that's great. I commend those guys,

1559
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:44,519
Speaker 1: but they weren't specified football coaches. So Richardson was as

1560
01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:46,559
Speaker 1: raw as raw can be all the way up to

1561
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:50,919
Speaker 1: the point where he was drafted. And so I really

1562
01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:55,599
Speaker 1: have rooted for him and hope and I have always

1563
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 1: hoped that he does well. I don't know him personally,

1564
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:05,200
Speaker 1: but you get those glimpses what happened on Sunday before

1565
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 1: the game against Arizona in a freak accident. I don't

1566
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:16,879
Speaker 1: know what's going to come of that, but it feels

1567
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:21,280
Speaker 1: like that's kind of the beginning of the end of

1568
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:26,920
Speaker 1: his time in Indianapolis. And at the risk of sounding crash,

1569
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:32,800
Speaker 1: it almost seems fitting is the wrong word, but like

1570
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 1: a proper illustration of his time here in the fact

1571
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:39,839
Speaker 1: that like he's using this band to do his stretch

1572
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:42,360
Speaker 1: before the game and then it breaks and snaps and

1573
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:46,040
Speaker 1: comes back in, you know, tragically, sadly hits him in

1574
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:48,200
Speaker 1: the eye, injures him. I mean, you feel for the guy.

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01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:51,760
Speaker 1: It's in no fault, is that his In no way

1576
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:55,400
Speaker 1: is that his fault, but simply the point that just

1577
01:28:55,479 --> 01:28:57,960
Speaker 1: when things were starting to like stretch out, and then

1578
01:28:58,040 --> 01:29:02,479
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, with one simple snap, everything comes

1579
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:04,920
Speaker 1: back flying and hits him like right there, and then

1580
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:08,680
Speaker 1: it's over. And it almost feels like that is the

1581
01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:13,360
Speaker 1: summary of his time in Indianapolis, because it seemingly was

1582
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:19,120
Speaker 1: happening faster and more like stretched out than even he anticipated.

1583
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:21,960
Speaker 1: And then just like with the helmet tap and other

1584
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 1: such things, things happened faster and with more immediacy and

1585
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:32,120
Speaker 1: with more oomph and emphasis and finality than he anticipated.

1586
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:35,680
Speaker 1: And now that you look at the fact that and

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01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 1: you know, Daniel Jones is a player that has had

1588
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:41,000
Speaker 1: a history of injury and not being able to play

1589
01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:44,599
Speaker 1: totality of a season, and for that reason, one would

1590
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:46,559
Speaker 1: assume that within the next month there are going to

1591
01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:49,920
Speaker 1: be opportunities where Richardson could have gotten in there and

1592
01:29:50,120 --> 01:29:52,880
Speaker 1: still shown what he can do. And now that's going

1593
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:55,040
Speaker 1: to be denied because one would assume he's going to

1594
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:57,160
Speaker 1: be out what four to six weeks minimum, I mean,

1595
01:29:57,360 --> 01:30:02,000
Speaker 1: one would assume at the that'st scenario. And so if

1596
01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:06,320
Speaker 1: those situations present themselves, unfortunately, it is likely going to

1597
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:11,120
Speaker 1: be for someone else's opportunity. And that's unfortunate, but it

1598
01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:14,160
Speaker 1: feels like that's inevitable. Ralph Friefel joined us tomorrow. We'll

1599
01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:17,080
Speaker 1: get more into kind of the timeline of that injury

1600
01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:20,120
Speaker 1: and other such things mentioned earlier the Pacers. Last night,

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01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:24,920
Speaker 1: Scott agnesfield House Files joined us recaps next. By the way,

1602
01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:27,360
Speaker 1: a couple of upsets to report before we get to

1603
01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:31,120
Speaker 1: Scott Agnes. The field House Files. Number one, Chicago's Pizza

1604
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:35,400
Speaker 1: is no longer unbeaten in the Quarian Company Fantasy football League.

1605
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:40,000
Speaker 1: Now Chicago's Pizza is unbeaten when it comes to pizza quality,

1606
01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:42,920
Speaker 1: no question about that. But in terms of Nate's fantasy team,

1607
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:48,080
Speaker 1: Nade from Chicago's Pizza suffered his first defeat this week.

1608
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:53,479
Speaker 1: I think Eddie's team lost as well Eddie Garrison's as

1609
01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:58,599
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the league's standings here. In fact, Eddie

1610
01:30:58,680 --> 01:31:01,920
Speaker 1: Garrison now at four and two, Chicago's Pizza is at

1611
01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:09,760
Speaker 1: five and one. Congratulations to Brian who knocked off and

1612
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:14,880
Speaker 1: upset Chicago's Pizza. My team two and four. By the way,

1613
01:31:15,240 --> 01:31:17,200
Speaker 1: there's like five of us that are all tied for

1614
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:19,559
Speaker 1: last at two and four. But it's not my fault.

1615
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:21,960
Speaker 1: I had t Higgins and nobody can throw to him.

1616
01:31:21,960 --> 01:31:24,320
Speaker 1: And justin Jefferson's been disappointing and you know what he's

1617
01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:28,840
Speaker 1: supposed to do, right, So that is upset number one.

1618
01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:31,439
Speaker 1: Upset number two, which is this is the biggest stunner revolved.

1619
01:31:31,479 --> 01:31:33,840
Speaker 1: You haven't had the breaking news sounder by chance, Corbyn,

1620
01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:41,040
Speaker 1: if you could please now I want you to hear Corbyn,

1621
01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:42,960
Speaker 1: who is wearing a big trucker hat right now. Just

1622
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:45,080
Speaker 1: count to three, if you could into the microphone, Corbyn

1623
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:50,840
Speaker 1: one two three, Okay, Corbin is and like Corbyn if

1624
01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:53,360
Speaker 1: we're talking about cars, he's an F one fifty right.

1625
01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:56,439
Speaker 1: And so I just asked Corbyn what his what his

1626
01:31:56,439 --> 01:31:58,920
Speaker 1: favorite style of music was. I said, what kind of

1627
01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:01,960
Speaker 1: music do you like? Corbyn breaks out with the following

1628
01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:04,679
Speaker 1: and tells me my two favorite artist are Dean Martin

1629
01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:06,439
Speaker 1: and Frank Sinatra. And is that correct?

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01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:07,400
Speaker 4: That is right?

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01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:11,200
Speaker 1: That's the bit and that's I mean, listen, I'm not

1632
01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:14,320
Speaker 1: damning you for that at all, and that is a

1633
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:19,519
Speaker 1: sign of an extremely extremely like fine taste, right, I

1634
01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:22,760
Speaker 1: mean exquisite taste and an intellect quite frankly, and I'm

1635
01:32:22,760 --> 01:32:24,840
Speaker 1: not saying that you don't represent all of those things,

1636
01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:28,240
Speaker 1: but for a fellow your age, because I'm going to

1637
01:32:28,320 --> 01:32:31,360
Speaker 1: guess Corbyn that you are twenty seven years old, little

1638
01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:36,120
Speaker 1: high twenty five, little low twenty six. Yes see how

1639
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:38,400
Speaker 1: I work on the price is right for twenty six

1640
01:32:38,479 --> 01:32:42,000
Speaker 1: years old. That is very impressive. By the way, Scott Agnes,

1641
01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:44,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if Scott Agnes more a Taylor Swift

1642
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:46,120
Speaker 1: guy than a Frank Sinatra guy. Joins us now on

1643
01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:49,840
Speaker 1: the Java House. Peel and poor guest line again, Jake

1644
01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:52,280
Speaker 1: twenty five is the discount code if you want to

1645
01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:55,519
Speaker 1: get the bundle, whether it be the Wrangler Energy, the

1646
01:32:55,680 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 1: Liquid Science, Hydration, the coffee formulas, all of it at

1647
01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:03,080
Speaker 1: Java House, Java House dot com. Use that code and

1648
01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:06,639
Speaker 1: it's a value. I'm telling you right now, you're talking

1649
01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:08,240
Speaker 1: forty eight drinks you're going to get for like a

1650
01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:11,120
Speaker 1: buck apiece basically at the rate you're going with the

1651
01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:14,160
Speaker 1: discount code. Jake twenty five, Scott joins us. Now, Scott

1652
01:33:14,240 --> 01:33:17,880
Speaker 1: last night Pacers, I thought Benedict Mather and I talked

1653
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:20,840
Speaker 1: about it, he was really, really efficient. But I'm a

1654
01:33:20,880 --> 01:33:23,479
Speaker 1: little worried and I know it's just one preseason game,

1655
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:25,559
Speaker 1: so I need you, Scott Agnes, to talk me off

1656
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:29,920
Speaker 1: of this ledge. I'm concerned about what is going to

1657
01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:33,519
Speaker 1: happen at the center position and that there is too

1658
01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:36,840
Speaker 1: much similarity between James Wiseman, Isaiah Jackson, and Jay Huff

1659
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:40,679
Speaker 1: and nobody really is going to separate themselves in that area.

1660
01:33:41,439 --> 01:33:42,200
Speaker 1: Tell me I'm wrong.

1661
01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:44,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was going to add it. You need some separation,

1662
01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:47,080
Speaker 6: and right now we have not gotten that. I mean,

1663
01:33:47,120 --> 01:33:50,200
Speaker 6: it's tough when you go against bismock Biambo like they

1664
01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:50,840
Speaker 6: did last year.

1665
01:33:50,840 --> 01:33:54,760
Speaker 1: You know, it's the presence of greatness. And and he

1666
01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:57,120
Speaker 1: got in the game late Bis mack Biambo did, And

1667
01:33:57,240 --> 01:33:59,840
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, he's out there floor general ling. I mean,

1668
01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:02,280
Speaker 1: you gotta love miss mac Biabo. His seventh team now

1669
01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:04,320
Speaker 1: with the San Antonio Spurs. And I don't know if

1670
01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:06,080
Speaker 1: people know this, you're not Scott, but my favorite thing

1671
01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:08,599
Speaker 1: about him is the fact that his name is Bis Macbiambo. Right.

1672
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:11,160
Speaker 7: Absolutely, we'll keep pounding that one.

1673
01:34:11,200 --> 01:34:12,519
Speaker 6: No, I love it. That's why I had to bring

1674
01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:15,360
Speaker 6: that up. Actually, but no, you're totally right. I mean,

1675
01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:19,000
Speaker 6: the center position was the number one concern entering training camp,

1676
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:22,519
Speaker 6: and I think now with the new issues at point guard,

1677
01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:25,200
Speaker 6: given the injury challenges, to me, that becomes number one

1678
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:27,240
Speaker 6: because if you can't bring up the ball, you can't

1679
01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:29,439
Speaker 6: really get into anything on both ends of the floor.

1680
01:34:29,479 --> 01:34:32,360
Speaker 6: But the center position, I would say right now is

1681
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:36,840
Speaker 6: a big yellow flag, like it's too early to be concerned.

1682
01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:39,559
Speaker 6: But at the same time, in a game last night

1683
01:34:39,640 --> 01:34:43,200
Speaker 6: where you mostly played starters for a big portion of it,

1684
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:45,640
Speaker 6: right throw out the second game, there wasn't much to that.

1685
01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:48,240
Speaker 6: They sat many guys, but to not have a center

1686
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:51,160
Speaker 6: make a field goal, to have some guards out rebound

1687
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:54,280
Speaker 6: your centers, and in just in other ways how they

1688
01:34:54,280 --> 01:34:58,280
Speaker 6: were beaten back in transition, the rim presence. No, that's

1689
01:34:58,320 --> 01:35:00,519
Speaker 6: a great big flag right now that they have to

1690
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:03,080
Speaker 6: get solved here very quickly.

1691
01:35:03,240 --> 01:35:07,360
Speaker 1: And Scott, two things here disclaimers that I'm going to

1692
01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:09,040
Speaker 1: give that I've been given all day here. It's been

1693
01:35:09,040 --> 01:35:11,840
Speaker 1: like a disclaimer Tuesday on the program. But one of

1694
01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:16,839
Speaker 1: them is I get it. I mean, it is entirely

1695
01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:21,000
Speaker 1: possible that once you get Tyree's Haliburton back, and you know,

1696
01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:24,680
Speaker 1: in a year from now and you're you're ready to

1697
01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:27,080
Speaker 1: kind of make another push, you know, it's entirely possible

1698
01:35:27,080 --> 01:35:30,120
Speaker 1: that they that the center on that roster is not

1699
01:35:30,160 --> 01:35:34,240
Speaker 1: on the current roster. That is a possibility. But and

1700
01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:39,280
Speaker 1: then number two, the pacers have earned the benefit of

1701
01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:42,479
Speaker 1: the doubt when it comes to asking for our patients,

1702
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:45,000
Speaker 1: because in terms of building last year's roster, for example,

1703
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:49,160
Speaker 1: I mean, they hit on every aspect. Right. Having said that,

1704
01:35:50,160 --> 01:35:54,320
Speaker 1: and it's it's very early, but Jay Huff to me,

1705
01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:59,519
Speaker 1: I expected him to be a little bit of a

1706
01:35:59,560 --> 01:36:02,920
Speaker 1: better thing facilitator and play with and have a little

1707
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:06,880
Speaker 1: bit more strength to him than I have seen so far.

1708
01:36:07,080 --> 01:36:08,599
Speaker 1: Am I being too critical there?

1709
01:36:09,640 --> 01:36:11,960
Speaker 6: No? But I think the biggest thing that stands out

1710
01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:13,719
Speaker 6: to me is the conditioning aspect.

1711
01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:15,280
Speaker 7: This is a whole new level of play.

1712
01:36:15,560 --> 01:36:18,200
Speaker 6: When you're having some players pressure full court, you're trying

1713
01:36:18,200 --> 01:36:20,000
Speaker 6: to play quicker than anybody in the league. I thought

1714
01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:22,880
Speaker 6: there was a couple times last game where he was

1715
01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:26,559
Speaker 6: huffing and puffing no one intended, trying to keep up

1716
01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:28,880
Speaker 6: and run down the four, And a lot of the

1717
01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:31,679
Speaker 6: same is probably true with Jackson and Wiseman too, coming

1718
01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:34,200
Speaker 6: off their injury, and so yeah, you want to give

1719
01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:36,240
Speaker 6: them some grace, But at the same time, what are

1720
01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:39,240
Speaker 6: we doing here? Like you need a starting caliber center

1721
01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:41,240
Speaker 6: by Game one, and if not, you're gonna have to

1722
01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:43,360
Speaker 6: make some tweaks along the way. And I thought the

1723
01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:47,400
Speaker 6: best lineup last night featured Obi Toppin at that center position,

1724
01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:52,680
Speaker 6: which does speak to their versatility. But Jay Huff what

1725
01:36:52,720 --> 01:36:55,080
Speaker 6: they're betting on there is the analytics game with him

1726
01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:56,800
Speaker 6: that if he gets more minutes, he can be more

1727
01:36:56,840 --> 01:36:59,840
Speaker 6: productive in what he's able to do out on the

1728
01:37:01,120 --> 01:37:02,720
Speaker 6: But the other big thing with him, I think that

1729
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:05,800
Speaker 6: has obviously stood out as foul trouble that's prevented him

1730
01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:08,760
Speaker 6: from finding any rhythm or maybe confidence out there with

1731
01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:09,400
Speaker 6: this new group.

1732
01:37:09,960 --> 01:37:15,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, the you know, the pacing to your point about

1733
01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:18,200
Speaker 1: conditioning with Jay Huff just for example, the pacing to

1734
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:21,280
Speaker 1: me and for that matter, even Jackson and Wiseman, like

1735
01:37:22,360 --> 01:37:24,120
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be Jackson that's going to

1736
01:37:24,120 --> 01:37:25,920
Speaker 1: be the starter. I would assume that that's the one

1737
01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:29,600
Speaker 1: they go with. But even Jackson, who I do like

1738
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:32,640
Speaker 1: him a great deal, but it appears as though and

1739
01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:35,200
Speaker 1: he also is having to get into form coming off

1740
01:37:35,240 --> 01:37:40,320
Speaker 1: of the injury. Isaiah Jackson, he and Wiseman both Scott

1741
01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:42,920
Speaker 1: the I think we know that they can play at

1742
01:37:43,000 --> 01:37:45,960
Speaker 1: pace once they have their conditioning back underneath them. The

1743
01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:48,080
Speaker 1: question that I have for you, and maybe we don't

1744
01:37:48,120 --> 01:37:50,960
Speaker 1: know this answer yet, is do they have the same

1745
01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:53,800
Speaker 1: bounce either of them coming off of the injury they

1746
01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:55,800
Speaker 1: came off of, both of them with an achilles.

1747
01:37:56,920 --> 01:37:58,479
Speaker 7: I'd say it's too early to tell.

1748
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:00,760
Speaker 6: I don't really even want to judge that till like

1749
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:04,920
Speaker 6: you're a year removed from surgery. I'm actually quite fascinated

1750
01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:07,320
Speaker 6: that they're playing out there and seemingly not on a

1751
01:38:07,360 --> 01:38:09,880
Speaker 6: minute's restriction, Jake or anything like that. Like this is

1752
01:38:11,160 --> 01:38:13,360
Speaker 6: a little bit surprising in a good way that they

1753
01:38:13,400 --> 01:38:15,759
Speaker 6: are out there. Same thing with Tyrese. He's ahead of schedule.

1754
01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:18,880
Speaker 6: Now don't expect him back. But that's a positive thing

1755
01:38:18,920 --> 01:38:20,799
Speaker 6: to come out of it. And one of the challenges

1756
01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:23,000
Speaker 6: I would say two to mention with Huff is I

1757
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:25,800
Speaker 6: expected or expect for him to be a little bit

1758
01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:29,280
Speaker 6: more of a presence from outside. We haven't really gotten

1759
01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:32,519
Speaker 6: to see the outside shooting that maybe we expected. How

1760
01:38:32,520 --> 01:38:35,800
Speaker 6: about Jay off the bench, His only three shots are

1761
01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:39,360
Speaker 6: all three point attempts. I like the balance, I like

1762
01:38:39,479 --> 01:38:43,280
Speaker 6: being a stretch five, but you need some interior threats

1763
01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:46,000
Speaker 6: as well when you're expecting that from your center, so

1764
01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:48,200
Speaker 6: you want to see to go back to your first point,

1765
01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:50,600
Speaker 6: you need some separation. You need these guys to do

1766
01:38:50,640 --> 01:38:53,599
Speaker 6: a better job to defending without fouling, so that they

1767
01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:56,479
Speaker 6: can stay on the floor and maybe build some confidence

1768
01:38:56,520 --> 01:38:59,240
Speaker 6: with these new lineups that they're unaccustomed to playing with.

1769
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:02,439
Speaker 1: The Scott Agnes our guest Fieldhouse files. He is on

1770
01:39:02,439 --> 01:39:05,559
Speaker 1: the Joba House Peel and poor guest line Scott the

1771
01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:07,720
Speaker 1: point guard position you mentioned it, I mean and for

1772
01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:12,840
Speaker 1: those unfamiliar, obviously Tyre's Halliburton out for the year. TJ McConnell,

1773
01:39:12,920 --> 01:39:16,040
Speaker 1: who is going to get significant minutes, is also out

1774
01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:20,400
Speaker 1: with injury. And I don't think you rush that back

1775
01:39:20,479 --> 01:39:22,639
Speaker 1: at all. I think you let him play his way

1776
01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:26,280
Speaker 1: back from that. But Cameron payin last night got seventeen minutes,

1777
01:39:26,360 --> 01:39:27,800
Speaker 1: hit a couple of threes. I think he's got an

1778
01:39:27,880 --> 01:39:31,320
Speaker 1: unorthodox looking shot. I will say that. But do you

1779
01:39:31,439 --> 01:39:36,519
Speaker 1: anticipate that Cameron pain stays on roster all year or

1780
01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:41,479
Speaker 1: is this Yeah, probably just until they don't have that

1781
01:39:41,720 --> 01:39:45,679
Speaker 1: need again and then he falls victim to the numbers game.

1782
01:39:46,720 --> 01:39:49,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, I would lean more towards the latter, Jake.

1783
01:39:49,080 --> 01:39:51,680
Speaker 6: I would think, let's assume and hopefully this is the

1784
01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:53,679
Speaker 6: case that here in the next month, this point guard

1785
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:56,759
Speaker 6: position gets a lot more healthier. Right like Ben Shepherd's

1786
01:39:56,800 --> 01:40:00,120
Speaker 6: training upward, We're not going to see him really probably

1787
01:40:00,160 --> 01:40:02,680
Speaker 6: in this preseason, which is a disappointment. Same goes for

1788
01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:05,800
Speaker 6: Cam Jones, who they drafted early there in that second round,

1789
01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:07,760
Speaker 6: as he's dealing with a back injury. You hope some

1790
01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:10,320
Speaker 6: of these clear up for next month, because then it

1791
01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:12,559
Speaker 6: goes into what we were just talking about maybe you

1792
01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:15,000
Speaker 6: need to bring in someone else to challenge at that

1793
01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:17,360
Speaker 6: center spot. Maybe you don't, and maybe that group can

1794
01:40:17,360 --> 01:40:21,280
Speaker 6: solidify itself a little bit more. But right now, I

1795
01:40:21,280 --> 01:40:24,000
Speaker 6: think it was one of many calls the Pacers placed

1796
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:26,960
Speaker 6: around the league trying to look into what they liked

1797
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:29,160
Speaker 6: from Pain and they liked as him being a veteran,

1798
01:40:29,200 --> 01:40:30,600
Speaker 6: and they liked that he could shoot the ball, and

1799
01:40:30,600 --> 01:40:32,639
Speaker 6: he did have a stretch I think of eight straight

1800
01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:34,880
Speaker 6: points maybe in the third quarter of that last game

1801
01:40:34,920 --> 01:40:37,759
Speaker 6: after not making a field goal in about nineteen minutes

1802
01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:38,439
Speaker 6: in his debut.

1803
01:40:38,479 --> 01:40:41,240
Speaker 7: That was two days into his tenure with the Pacers.

1804
01:40:41,280 --> 01:40:43,880
Speaker 6: So I do acknowledge that a little bit, but you

1805
01:40:43,960 --> 01:40:45,960
Speaker 6: need a lot more production out of your point guard spot.

1806
01:40:46,000 --> 01:40:48,360
Speaker 6: I think we know what Nemhart is exactly. I think

1807
01:40:48,360 --> 01:40:51,320
Speaker 6: there will be some hybrid roles in terms of Mathern

1808
01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:54,320
Speaker 6: maybe bringing it up and Siakam bringing it up obviously

1809
01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:57,400
Speaker 6: and getting into the flow. But I mean this point

1810
01:40:57,400 --> 01:40:59,920
Speaker 6: guard position we've seen over the years, you need depth

1811
01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:03,040
Speaker 6: in that spot. One because injuries are inevitable, but also

1812
01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:06,400
Speaker 6: because of especially in this offense, how much is leaned

1813
01:41:06,479 --> 01:41:09,400
Speaker 6: upon the point guards to get get into the offense

1814
01:41:09,439 --> 01:41:12,440
Speaker 6: to facilitate and to lead Scott.

1815
01:41:12,400 --> 01:41:17,240
Speaker 1: How and I know that this is not anything new here,

1816
01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:21,240
Speaker 1: I'm not breaking any news, right, but it was the

1817
01:41:21,280 --> 01:41:25,760
Speaker 1: first time that I've really sat and watched and I

1818
01:41:25,800 --> 01:41:28,160
Speaker 1: was surprised the number of minutes that he got. But

1819
01:41:28,320 --> 01:41:32,439
Speaker 1: conditioning to your point, probably brought into play here. How

1820
01:41:33,800 --> 01:41:38,560
Speaker 1: literally trans like transcendently good is Victor women Yama.

1821
01:41:40,280 --> 01:41:44,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's amazing. He makes things so look so seamless.

1822
01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:46,479
Speaker 6: He can run the floor, as you said, so easily.

1823
01:41:47,479 --> 01:41:51,400
Speaker 6: He's just a force. And I think the natural comparison

1824
01:41:51,439 --> 01:41:53,720
Speaker 6: I think is Giannis, and he's far ahead of what

1825
01:41:53,800 --> 01:41:55,559
Speaker 6: Yannis was in year three.

1826
01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:57,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's twenty one years old, right.

1827
01:41:58,160 --> 01:42:01,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you can tell he's had a training both

1828
01:42:01,600 --> 01:42:04,760
Speaker 6: physically and from from like his from sorry, from his

1829
01:42:04,840 --> 01:42:09,719
Speaker 6: basketball standpoint, and physically because there's so many much concern

1830
01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:12,759
Speaker 6: with big guys their feet, their back, and it seems

1831
01:42:12,760 --> 01:42:14,760
Speaker 6: like he's doing everything in his power. And obviously he

1832
01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:17,400
Speaker 6: is surrounded by the right people to prepare like he

1833
01:42:17,479 --> 01:42:20,280
Speaker 6: is one of the great pregame warm ups. The tension

1834
01:42:20,360 --> 01:42:22,840
Speaker 6: to detail in the little things he does to be

1835
01:42:22,920 --> 01:42:25,120
Speaker 6: there and on game night and yeah, I thought Rick

1836
01:42:25,160 --> 01:42:26,599
Speaker 6: Carlisle said it well last night.

1837
01:42:26,640 --> 01:42:27,240
Speaker 7: Thanks goodness.

1838
01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:29,760
Speaker 6: We only see him twice a year because he is

1839
01:42:29,800 --> 01:42:32,920
Speaker 6: a force, and if you want to talk about faces

1840
01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:35,040
Speaker 6: of the league, I mean he's probably headed that way

1841
01:42:35,080 --> 01:42:36,920
Speaker 6: here in another year or two. There's a big reason

1842
01:42:36,960 --> 01:42:40,240
Speaker 6: why National TV, even though the Spurs weren't any good

1843
01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:42,360
Speaker 6: last year, are lining up to show him on TV

1844
01:42:42,400 --> 01:42:43,160
Speaker 6: and feature home.

1845
01:42:43,120 --> 01:42:46,040
Speaker 1: Scott He's and again, I mean, what is he seven?

1846
01:42:46,439 --> 01:42:48,320
Speaker 1: Is he listed at seven four seven five?

1847
01:42:48,439 --> 01:42:51,360
Speaker 6: Now, well, that's the funny thing I said all along,

1848
01:42:51,400 --> 01:42:53,479
Speaker 6: he's seven to six. Last year he was listed as

1849
01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:55,679
Speaker 6: seven to three. They upped him to seven to five

1850
01:42:55,760 --> 01:42:57,360
Speaker 6: this year, and I'm not sure they're there yet.

1851
01:42:57,400 --> 01:43:01,040
Speaker 1: In my opinion, he hit I think, if I'm not

1852
01:43:01,080 --> 01:43:06,080
Speaker 1: mistaken too separate like pull up threes, I mean effortlessly right,

1853
01:43:06,120 --> 01:43:08,960
Speaker 1: I mean like he's he's bringing the ball up the

1854
01:43:09,120 --> 01:43:13,760
Speaker 1: floor and then stopping and pulling up. Listen. That kind

1855
01:43:13,800 --> 01:43:15,640
Speaker 1: of play is the only thing if you want to

1856
01:43:15,680 --> 01:43:18,440
Speaker 1: know how good this is all I've got to say.

1857
01:43:18,479 --> 01:43:21,120
Speaker 1: If you want to know. If you are somebody listening

1858
01:43:21,200 --> 01:43:22,360
Speaker 1: right now and you're like, yeah, I didn't get a

1859
01:43:22,439 --> 01:43:25,240
Speaker 1: chance to see the game, they're talking about Victor women Miyama.

1860
01:43:25,360 --> 01:43:28,000
Speaker 1: I know that he was this phenom coming in. How

1861
01:43:28,040 --> 01:43:30,240
Speaker 1: good is he? All I've got to say to you

1862
01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:33,840
Speaker 1: is Bismack Biambo only got six minutes last night. That's

1863
01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:38,400
Speaker 1: how good he is. Right, You're keeping bis Biambo off

1864
01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:40,439
Speaker 1: the floor, that's how good you are, right.

1865
01:43:41,400 --> 01:43:44,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean when this is the example of the

1866
01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:48,759
Speaker 6: evolution obviously of the game. I mean, go back fifteen years,

1867
01:43:48,880 --> 01:43:51,320
Speaker 6: a guy would like Roy Hibbert back to the basket,

1868
01:43:51,439 --> 01:43:53,960
Speaker 6: throw it into the post, inside out, protect the rim.

1869
01:43:54,000 --> 01:43:56,639
Speaker 6: That's what was being asked to that position. And now

1870
01:43:56,720 --> 01:44:00,640
Speaker 6: years later, whether it's Wimby, whether it's Jokic, whether you

1871
01:44:00,680 --> 01:44:02,720
Speaker 6: know you name it, Miles Turner, even to go back

1872
01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:04,880
Speaker 6: to a former pacer, guys that can bring the ball up,

1873
01:44:04,920 --> 01:44:07,559
Speaker 6: can get you into your offense, can can be the

1874
01:44:07,600 --> 01:44:09,759
Speaker 6: fulcrum of your offense if you want to to play

1875
01:44:09,760 --> 01:44:14,960
Speaker 6: through them to I mean, they're just multi talented and

1876
01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:17,560
Speaker 6: have an incredible skill set that yeah, the sky's the

1877
01:44:17,600 --> 01:44:21,160
Speaker 6: limit truly for a guy like Wemby, who's just twenty one, remarkable,

1878
01:44:21,200 --> 01:44:21,559
Speaker 6: isn't it.

1879
01:44:21,880 --> 01:44:25,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean honestly, like and again you saw

1880
01:44:25,080 --> 01:44:26,519
Speaker 1: the video him when he was playing in France, like

1881
01:44:26,560 --> 01:44:28,320
Speaker 1: stepping over a bench to sign an autograph, so you

1882
01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:30,360
Speaker 1: knew how big he was, but like to actually see

1883
01:44:30,360 --> 01:44:33,000
Speaker 1: it last night was impressive. Corbyan, Do you feel a

1884
01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:35,880
Speaker 1: slight breeze by chance? If you feel it or not?

1885
01:44:35,960 --> 01:44:36,080
Speaker 2: Oh?

1886
01:44:36,160 --> 01:44:39,240
Speaker 1: Yes, indeed he appears as the our friend, Robin, the

1887
01:44:39,280 --> 01:44:41,160
Speaker 1: genie who has not been around for a while has

1888
01:44:41,160 --> 01:44:43,200
Speaker 1: made his way into the studio. He might have a

1889
01:44:43,280 --> 01:44:47,200
Speaker 1: question for Scott. Is that right? He's correct? Yes, Sky

1890
01:44:47,240 --> 01:44:50,559
Speaker 1: diagnis I am robbing the genie? As you know, I

1891
01:44:50,600 --> 01:44:53,320
Speaker 1: oftentimes allow people to make it pdiction and if it

1892
01:44:53,360 --> 01:44:56,920
Speaker 1: comes correct, I will give him one million dollars. How

1893
01:44:56,920 --> 01:44:58,840
Speaker 1: about that, Scott? Think about the Taylor Swift.

1894
01:44:59,040 --> 01:45:00,600
Speaker 7: I don't know I was in for something like this

1895
01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:01,400
Speaker 7: to that you can go.

1896
01:45:01,360 --> 01:45:04,000
Speaker 1: To three different Tailor Swift shows with that kind of money, Robin,

1897
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:06,759
Speaker 1: what's your question? Yes it is correct, Scott. My question

1898
01:45:06,840 --> 01:45:09,840
Speaker 1: for you is these I need you to write down

1899
01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:12,559
Speaker 1: your answer on the sheet of paper and at the

1900
01:45:12,680 --> 01:45:14,400
Speaker 1: end of the year, if it is correct, that would

1901
01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:17,240
Speaker 1: give you the sum of money. My question is yes

1902
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Speaker 1: or no? Will Tyrese Haliburton play a single game for

1903
01:45:21,479 --> 01:45:24,160
Speaker 1: the Indiana Pacers in this regular season.

1904
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Speaker 6: Well, Jeannie, I would rule that out and put a

1905
01:45:27,880 --> 01:45:29,800
Speaker 6: hard no on my white piece of paper right now.

1906
01:45:31,120 --> 01:45:35,519
Speaker 1: Wow, Robin Man, he sounds you sound convinced, there Scott,

1907
01:45:35,680 --> 01:45:36,639
Speaker 1: no chance at all.

1908
01:45:36,720 --> 01:45:39,040
Speaker 7: Huh, no plans either for that.

1909
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Speaker 1: I get it. I get it. You know there are

1910
01:45:42,920 --> 01:45:45,080
Speaker 1: always people that gonna hold out hope, right.

1911
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Speaker 7: Of course, and that's fine.

1912
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Speaker 6: But here's the other thing that I in the big

1913
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Speaker 6: picture you got to realize too, is this wasn't the

1914
01:45:52,360 --> 01:45:55,080
Speaker 6: end of the regular season mid April. This was the

1915
01:45:55,200 --> 01:45:57,960
Speaker 6: end the literal last moment of the season. You're talking

1916
01:45:58,000 --> 01:46:01,880
Speaker 6: the end of June, which cuts in to rehab time significantly.

1917
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Speaker 6: That's why you hear Jason Tatum talk about, Hey, my

1918
01:46:05,000 --> 01:46:07,479
Speaker 6: goals to try to get back. And the other thing

1919
01:46:07,520 --> 01:46:11,200
Speaker 6: too is I think these players need something to motivate them.

1920
01:46:11,200 --> 01:46:14,479
Speaker 6: They need something, They need something, an end in sight

1921
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Speaker 6: for this pain. And so I mean with Aaron Rodgers

1922
01:46:17,880 --> 01:46:19,479
Speaker 6: a couple of years ago, we were all following he

1923
01:46:19,520 --> 01:46:22,040
Speaker 6: wanted to get back if they were got at that.

1924
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Speaker 1: And I can't recall did he get back on the

1925
01:46:24,160 --> 01:46:26,200
Speaker 1: field at the end of that season he kept I

1926
01:46:26,240 --> 01:46:26,840
Speaker 1: don't think.

1927
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Speaker 6: So, Nor was it needed right because I think the

1928
01:46:29,960 --> 01:46:32,320
Speaker 6: game would have been like December twenty sixth or something,

1929
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Speaker 6: and I think the Jets were far out of contention

1930
01:46:34,840 --> 01:46:37,880
Speaker 6: at that point. But that's something these professional athletes need,

1931
01:46:37,960 --> 01:46:41,280
Speaker 6: something to grab hold to, whether it's gonna happen or not. Now,

1932
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Speaker 6: I do like the fact how the front office came

1933
01:46:43,640 --> 01:46:46,040
Speaker 6: out and said, guys, no, not returning, not happening.

1934
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Speaker 7: We want him to be healthy for the long run.

1935
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Speaker 7: And I think that is the right mentality.

1936
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Speaker 6: Because let's say, hypothetically, Jake, for your genie here, that

1937
01:46:53,960 --> 01:46:57,280
Speaker 6: he's able to return in late March, all right, So

1938
01:46:57,320 --> 01:46:59,640
Speaker 6: when everybody else is a top their game, they've had

1939
01:46:59,640 --> 01:47:02,800
Speaker 6: all he is easing his way back during the most

1940
01:47:02,800 --> 01:47:07,680
Speaker 6: pressure packed part, and you're applying all this pressure both physically,

1941
01:47:07,720 --> 01:47:10,080
Speaker 6: mentally and on that achilles to get back. To me,

1942
01:47:11,640 --> 01:47:15,360
Speaker 6: it doesn't add up whatsoever for anybody's stake in all this,

1943
01:47:15,479 --> 01:47:18,439
Speaker 6: especially with him being here for the long term, having

1944
01:47:18,479 --> 01:47:22,639
Speaker 6: the long term contract, and and you want his health

1945
01:47:22,720 --> 01:47:25,160
Speaker 6: to be paramount, especially this injury.

1946
01:47:25,200 --> 01:47:27,519
Speaker 7: This isn't an ankle sprain, this is a torn achilles.

1947
01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:31,920
Speaker 1: No, man, it is so tempting, just because, like for

1948
01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:34,360
Speaker 1: the peace of mind that you want to see him

1949
01:47:34,360 --> 01:47:36,240
Speaker 1: out there and I get it. I mean, it's hard

1950
01:47:36,240 --> 01:47:38,880
Speaker 1: to believe it's and I feel for him because when

1951
01:47:38,920 --> 01:47:40,479
Speaker 1: you watch it and you look at him and you're like, man,

1952
01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:43,479
Speaker 1: you know it's only been whatever it's been, I mean

1953
01:47:43,520 --> 01:47:46,840
Speaker 1: to your point, what four months, and yet Yep, when

1954
01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:49,160
Speaker 1: he's walking around out there, you feel like the guy

1955
01:47:49,160 --> 01:47:50,960
Speaker 1: can go out and play and you just know that

1956
01:47:50,960 --> 01:47:52,760
Speaker 1: it's not reality, right, And.

1957
01:47:52,760 --> 01:47:55,479
Speaker 6: Jake, that's exactly what we saw with Caitlin Clark to

1958
01:47:55,560 --> 01:47:59,400
Speaker 6: in the regular season. People saw her shooting at shoot around. Yeah,

1959
01:47:59,439 --> 01:48:01,400
Speaker 6: go figure, that's that's what you do there. But that's

1960
01:48:01,439 --> 01:48:04,200
Speaker 6: all you're doing. You're not having to anticipate what the

1961
01:48:04,240 --> 01:48:07,800
Speaker 6: defense is doing. You're not having to avoid fans courtside,

1962
01:48:08,040 --> 01:48:11,760
Speaker 6: stepping on things, diving for bulls. Like, there's too many unpredictable,

1963
01:48:12,240 --> 01:48:15,240
Speaker 6: unpredictable things that can come into play. In addition to

1964
01:48:15,400 --> 01:48:17,920
Speaker 6: feeling right, being able to make cuts, it's very different

1965
01:48:17,960 --> 01:48:20,400
Speaker 6: to go right into a shot that you've done a

1966
01:48:20,479 --> 01:48:24,439
Speaker 6: thousand times that day versus all the different other things.

1967
01:48:24,439 --> 01:48:26,800
Speaker 6: And so I think that's actually a perfect example for

1968
01:48:26,880 --> 01:48:28,040
Speaker 6: a very different injury.

1969
01:48:28,800 --> 01:48:32,160
Speaker 1: By the way, last night, Tyre's Caliburton wearing the shoheo

1970
01:48:32,240 --> 01:48:34,160
Speaker 1: Tani Jersey. Is he a Dodgers fan? Do we know

1971
01:48:34,840 --> 01:48:35,360
Speaker 1: he is not?

1972
01:48:35,600 --> 01:48:40,280
Speaker 6: That's him playing into his WWE. And so there's a

1973
01:48:40,320 --> 01:48:42,479
Speaker 6: story he shared a couple of years ago how he

1974
01:48:42,600 --> 01:48:44,479
Speaker 6: was invited Jake to throw out the first pitch at

1975
01:48:44,479 --> 01:48:48,040
Speaker 6: a Brewers game and then Pacers kept beating the Brewers,

1976
01:48:48,080 --> 01:48:50,599
Speaker 6: and obviously Milwaukee is kind of hometown baseball team. He's

1977
01:48:50,640 --> 01:48:53,200
Speaker 6: not a big baseball guy, I don't think, but now

1978
01:48:53,240 --> 01:48:55,559
Speaker 6: he's going against him because he's like, wow, we rescinded

1979
01:48:55,600 --> 01:48:56,200
Speaker 6: the invite.

1980
01:48:56,600 --> 01:48:58,520
Speaker 7: And then to add a little flavor.

1981
01:48:58,280 --> 01:49:01,720
Speaker 6: To all this, Jake is mile in. The Bucks have

1982
01:49:01,800 --> 01:49:04,400
Speaker 6: been attending recent games as well, so there might be

1983
01:49:04,479 --> 01:49:07,040
Speaker 6: a little such there now to play into it.

1984
01:49:07,080 --> 01:49:09,479
Speaker 1: I did have somebody asked me last night. They said

1985
01:49:09,479 --> 01:49:12,559
Speaker 1: they were in Vegas and while they were in Vegas,

1986
01:49:12,600 --> 01:49:15,320
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, I turned around and there was this

1987
01:49:15,520 --> 01:49:18,759
Speaker 1: storefront in Vegas and it was like everything was Tyree's haliburt.

1988
01:49:18,800 --> 01:49:19,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, that had to have been one of

1989
01:49:20,040 --> 01:49:23,720
Speaker 1: the halle marts, right for Puma. Is that beyond just

1990
01:49:23,840 --> 01:49:25,519
Speaker 1: Indianapolis where those are popping up?

1991
01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:29,160
Speaker 6: Not to my knowledge, No, it's probably just a Puma

1992
01:49:29,200 --> 01:49:32,160
Speaker 6: outlet story or something like that, and he has the

1993
01:49:32,200 --> 01:49:34,040
Speaker 6: signature shoes, so of course they're going to want to

1994
01:49:34,040 --> 01:49:35,720
Speaker 6: promote the heck out of it. And it just came

1995
01:49:35,760 --> 01:49:37,880
Speaker 6: out less than a month ago, so it's a top

1996
01:49:37,880 --> 01:49:38,360
Speaker 6: of mine.

1997
01:49:38,479 --> 01:49:40,200
Speaker 1: I was thrilled last night, by the way, to see

1998
01:49:40,200 --> 01:49:42,599
Speaker 1: that aaron Nesmith was wearing the same, like bright yellow

1999
01:49:42,640 --> 01:49:45,000
Speaker 1: fluorescent new balanced shoes. I'm going to buy a pair

2000
01:49:45,040 --> 01:49:46,479
Speaker 1: of those, and I have no idea what I'll ever

2001
01:49:46,479 --> 01:49:48,760
Speaker 1: wear them with, but maybe to run on the treadmill.

2002
01:49:48,680 --> 01:49:51,080
Speaker 6: And then report back because I've heard good things. I've

2003
01:49:51,120 --> 01:49:51,960
Speaker 6: just never worn them.

2004
01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:54,639
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they're cool looking, as he said,

2005
01:49:54,840 --> 01:49:57,559
Speaker 1: they pop. I believe aaron Ne Smith said it. All right, Scott,

2006
01:49:57,560 --> 01:49:59,920
Speaker 1: what's new and exciting at Fieldhouse Files.

2007
01:50:00,880 --> 01:50:02,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think one of the things I'm going to

2008
01:50:02,160 --> 01:50:04,640
Speaker 6: tackle here is just the golden age right now we're

2009
01:50:04,680 --> 01:50:07,759
Speaker 6: experiencing in Central Indiana with all the different sports teams

2010
01:50:07,760 --> 01:50:10,400
Speaker 6: and how even like Caitlyn and Steph White, we're talking

2011
01:50:10,400 --> 01:50:13,479
Speaker 6: about how it feels like a university, how everyone every

2012
01:50:13,479 --> 01:50:14,719
Speaker 6: team supports one another.

2013
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Speaker 7: So be on the lookout for that here soon.

2014
01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:20,080
Speaker 1: All right, appreciate it, Scott, Scott Agnes joining us on

2015
01:50:20,200 --> 01:50:22,080
Speaker 1: the Java House Peel and Port guest line from field

2016
01:50:22,120 --> 01:50:24,559
Speaker 1: House Files, and he mentioned it. I'd mentioned it off

2017
01:50:24,560 --> 01:50:26,840
Speaker 1: the top, the fact that you've got the number one

2018
01:50:26,840 --> 01:50:29,960
Speaker 1: team in college basketball right here, Central Indiana and Purdue

2019
01:50:30,439 --> 01:50:33,839
Speaker 1: the arguably best team, certainly the best story in college

2020
01:50:33,840 --> 01:50:37,320
Speaker 1: football right here, right now with Indiana. The Colts are

2021
01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:39,880
Speaker 1: the number one seed as it stands right now, they

2022
01:50:39,920 --> 01:50:43,200
Speaker 1: have the best record in the AFC. The Pacers are

2023
01:50:43,240 --> 01:50:46,799
Speaker 1: half away, just four months ago from winning the NBA

2024
01:50:46,920 --> 01:50:49,599
Speaker 1: crown and still a you know a lot of those

2025
01:50:49,640 --> 01:50:52,120
Speaker 1: pieces back in waiting to see. And then of course,

2026
01:50:52,200 --> 01:50:54,800
Speaker 1: obviously the Fever season coming to an end, but a

2027
01:50:54,840 --> 01:50:58,479
Speaker 1: really really good one with Caitlyn Clark coming back next year.

2028
01:50:58,680 --> 01:51:01,280
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. The Indian with all new uniforms.

2029
01:51:01,280 --> 01:51:02,960
Speaker 1: I love them. I went over. I got a new

2030
01:51:02,960 --> 01:51:05,559
Speaker 1: hat for the Indians. Loved their new design. And there's

2031
01:51:05,600 --> 01:51:09,840
Speaker 1: another team in town that actually has an upcoming event

2032
01:51:09,880 --> 01:51:12,919
Speaker 1: that they are supporting, historic event taking place at Gambridge

2033
01:51:12,920 --> 01:51:16,439
Speaker 1: field House. You remember a year ago, and I talked

2034
01:51:16,439 --> 01:51:19,800
Speaker 1: about this a lot, there was a team that I

2035
01:51:20,080 --> 01:51:24,000
Speaker 1: was intrigued by. I didn't know a lot about. I

2036
01:51:24,080 --> 01:51:28,400
Speaker 1: was naive too, and it was a team that I

2037
01:51:28,439 --> 01:51:31,080
Speaker 1: started going into the Fisher's Event Center, which is a

2038
01:51:31,080 --> 01:51:35,479
Speaker 1: fabulous facility, and watching it and I'm like, holy cow.

2039
01:51:36,439 --> 01:51:39,280
Speaker 1: This was first off, I was blown away by the

2040
01:51:39,320 --> 01:51:43,400
Speaker 1: popularity of the sport. I admit my ignorance to it.

2041
01:51:44,160 --> 01:51:47,679
Speaker 1: I surrendered to the fact that I should have known

2042
01:51:47,760 --> 01:51:50,679
Speaker 1: more and been more aware of it. And I went once,

2043
01:51:51,280 --> 01:51:55,320
Speaker 1: was captivated by the speed, the athleticism, the hand eye coordination,

2044
01:51:56,720 --> 01:51:59,400
Speaker 1: and said I gotta go back again, went twice, when

2045
01:51:59,439 --> 01:52:03,559
Speaker 1: a third time time, and then I realized what I

2046
01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:06,280
Speaker 1: was missing, and that is that it is a sport

2047
01:52:07,080 --> 01:52:09,720
Speaker 1: that I think is not just you wouldn't even say

2048
01:52:09,800 --> 01:52:15,000
Speaker 1: rapidly growing. It is already well arrived, in particular for

2049
01:52:15,120 --> 01:52:17,880
Speaker 1: young people to enjoy. And it's going to be on

2050
01:52:17,960 --> 01:52:22,040
Speaker 1: display in Indianapolis, not only on the big screen but

2051
01:52:22,160 --> 01:52:26,240
Speaker 1: also in a big arena. And the new head coach

2052
01:52:26,439 --> 01:52:31,080
Speaker 1: of the team and a big event taking place will

2053
01:52:31,160 --> 01:52:35,360
Speaker 1: join me next. So it was last winter when I

2054
01:52:35,520 --> 01:52:38,320
Speaker 1: was introduced to the Indian Night of course, it was

2055
01:52:38,360 --> 01:52:42,880
Speaker 1: their inaugural season in Indianapolis, and I went out to

2056
01:52:42,960 --> 01:52:46,559
Speaker 1: check it out and was absolutely blown away, not just

2057
01:52:46,840 --> 01:52:52,120
Speaker 1: by the support from in particular you know, young people,

2058
01:52:52,200 --> 01:52:55,599
Speaker 1: but families and the number of volleyball players in Central

2059
01:52:55,640 --> 01:52:59,000
Speaker 1: Indiana includes at the college level, which by the way,

2060
01:52:59,439 --> 01:53:03,599
Speaker 1: coming up on Thursday at match between twenty second ranked

2061
01:53:03,720 --> 01:53:08,800
Speaker 1: Indiana and twelfth ranked Perdue in volleyball in downtown Indianapolis.

2062
01:53:08,880 --> 01:53:11,760
Speaker 1: The Indian Knight, who now have a film about them

2063
01:53:11,840 --> 01:53:14,640
Speaker 1: and that inaugural season at the Heartland Film Festival. We

2064
01:53:14,680 --> 01:53:17,120
Speaker 1: will get into all of that, but I want to

2065
01:53:17,160 --> 01:53:19,960
Speaker 1: welcome to the program and to Central Indiana the new

2066
01:53:20,040 --> 01:53:24,040
Speaker 1: head coach of the Indian Knight, coach Lauren Bertolachi, who

2067
01:53:24,080 --> 01:53:26,880
Speaker 1: joins me on the Java House Peel and poor guest

2068
01:53:26,880 --> 01:53:30,200
Speaker 1: line and coach. It has been a circuitous route to

2069
01:53:30,280 --> 01:53:33,439
Speaker 1: land you in Indianapolis, but let me be amongst many

2070
01:53:33,479 --> 01:53:35,360
Speaker 1: to say welcome to Central Indiana.

2071
01:53:36,479 --> 01:53:38,559
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much. I'm really excited to be

2072
01:53:38,680 --> 01:53:39,759
Speaker 2: here and I love it already.

2073
01:53:40,200 --> 01:53:42,560
Speaker 1: Now I can tell by the accent you're not from Kentucky,

2074
01:53:42,960 --> 01:53:47,439
Speaker 1: so you are Australian. But you most recently have coached

2075
01:53:47,520 --> 01:53:50,400
Speaker 1: in Switzerland. Now I want to begin with this. So

2076
01:53:50,479 --> 01:53:53,000
Speaker 1: you have coached in Europe. You have had a massively

2077
01:53:53,040 --> 01:53:58,040
Speaker 1: successful coaching career there. How does one end up coming

2078
01:53:58,080 --> 01:54:02,439
Speaker 1: from Switzerland now to Indianapolis to coach with the Indian Knight.

2079
01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:06,599
Speaker 2: Oh good recruiting from India right now, I'm kidding. Listen,

2080
01:54:06,720 --> 01:54:10,000
Speaker 2: they it's volleyball so big here and it was just

2081
01:54:10,520 --> 01:54:12,160
Speaker 2: a matter of time that they were going to be

2082
01:54:12,240 --> 01:54:14,200
Speaker 2: kind of I feel like I'm stepping a great career

2083
01:54:14,280 --> 01:54:15,800
Speaker 2: choice for me and I've landed in a spot that

2084
01:54:16,360 --> 01:54:18,439
Speaker 2: very professional and really cares what about volleyball and.

2085
01:54:18,400 --> 01:54:19,160
Speaker 4: The what they're doing.

2086
01:54:19,400 --> 01:54:22,599
Speaker 1: Here's a really dumb question for you. Okay, I'm almost

2087
01:54:22,680 --> 01:54:24,760
Speaker 1: embarrassed to ask it. It's so dumb, but I've made

2088
01:54:24,920 --> 01:54:29,320
Speaker 1: a living coach with dumb questions. It is volleyball. You know,

2089
01:54:29,400 --> 01:54:32,480
Speaker 1: you grew up in Australia, you have coached, you know,

2090
01:54:32,480 --> 01:54:35,920
Speaker 1: you've been around, as I'd mentioned you, you know coached

2091
01:54:35,920 --> 01:54:38,720
Speaker 1: in Switzerland, you've been part of a national team, and

2092
01:54:38,760 --> 01:54:41,280
Speaker 1: you are a native of Australia and now you come here.

2093
01:54:41,760 --> 01:54:45,720
Speaker 1: Does the game change in different areas or is volleyball

2094
01:54:45,800 --> 01:54:49,560
Speaker 1: pretty much the same and stylistically regardless of where you're playing.

2095
01:54:50,480 --> 01:54:56,480
Speaker 2: That's actually a very smart question. I would say stilistic changes. Stilistically,

2096
01:54:56,520 --> 01:54:59,680
Speaker 2: it changes a little bit country to country. The let's

2097
01:54:59,680 --> 01:55:04,160
Speaker 2: say look at Japanese versus Brazilian volleyball, different style of coaching,

2098
01:55:04,560 --> 01:55:07,360
Speaker 2: different style of play. America and really have their own

2099
01:55:07,400 --> 01:55:10,560
Speaker 2: style as well, So there are small sty stylistic differences,

2100
01:55:10,640 --> 01:55:12,080
Speaker 2: and the end of the day, we still run by

2101
01:55:12,120 --> 01:55:14,600
Speaker 2: the same rules, so there are a lot of similarities

2102
01:55:14,640 --> 01:55:16,360
Speaker 2: as well. But I've seen a lot of volleyball, and

2103
01:55:16,640 --> 01:55:18,440
Speaker 2: I really try to blend a lot of different styles

2104
01:55:18,480 --> 01:55:20,120
Speaker 2: and find out kind of what works best.

2105
01:55:20,360 --> 01:55:22,200
Speaker 1: Had you spend a lot of time in the US

2106
01:55:22,280 --> 01:55:25,840
Speaker 1: before coming here for this job, not at all.

2107
01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:28,080
Speaker 2: Indiana is my first stop in the US?

2108
01:55:28,280 --> 01:55:31,760
Speaker 1: Is it really yep? What are your initial impressions?

2109
01:55:33,080 --> 01:55:35,360
Speaker 2: I love it here. I live up in Fishes near

2110
01:55:35,440 --> 01:55:37,760
Speaker 2: our events center, and I think it's really beautiful. I'm

2111
01:55:37,800 --> 01:55:40,120
Speaker 2: here with my dog and she loves all the trailers

2112
01:55:40,120 --> 01:55:44,080
Speaker 2: and everything, most importantly sport community here. I walked in

2113
01:55:44,120 --> 01:55:46,360
Speaker 2: the door and pretty much saw how much everybody cares

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Speaker 2: about volleyball and sport. And I can see that everyone's

2115
01:55:49,800 --> 01:55:52,640
Speaker 2: really ready to push women's volleyball through the roof, and

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01:55:52,680 --> 01:55:54,000
Speaker 2: that's pretty much what I'm all about.

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01:55:54,320 --> 01:55:58,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know you mentioned this when we started

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01:55:58,320 --> 01:56:01,880
Speaker 1: talking there in terms of and I was surprised by it, coach,

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Speaker 1: and I you know, I apologize for that in the

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Speaker 1: fact that I was not dasm for volleyball in this

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01:56:09,280 --> 01:56:11,480
Speaker 1: area and in particular, and I think it's great and

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01:56:11,480 --> 01:56:14,280
Speaker 1: I wanted you to touch on this, in the fact

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Speaker 1: that Lauren Bertolacci is my guest, the head coach of

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01:56:17,320 --> 01:56:22,160
Speaker 1: the Indian Night the example for young girls because I

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01:56:22,160 --> 01:56:26,520
Speaker 1: think sometimes, you know, the saying is sometimes to be something,

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01:56:26,560 --> 01:56:29,560
Speaker 1: you have to see something, and for young girls in

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01:56:29,640 --> 01:56:34,360
Speaker 1: this area to see high level volleyball and professional volleyball

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01:56:34,600 --> 01:56:37,400
Speaker 1: right there as the example as they're just starting to

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01:56:37,520 --> 01:56:41,520
Speaker 1: play and growing the sport which already has a popularity

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01:56:41,520 --> 01:56:45,360
Speaker 1: to it. But are you aware of that example that

2131
01:56:45,400 --> 01:56:47,840
Speaker 1: you're setting for young people and what it can mean

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Speaker 1: to this community.

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01:56:50,000 --> 01:56:50,880
Speaker 2: Oh, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 4: I agree with you.

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Speaker 2: We can't be what we can't see. I think, like

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01:56:54,160 --> 01:56:55,840
Speaker 2: I said, it's been a long time coming that pro

2137
01:56:55,920 --> 01:56:58,720
Speaker 2: volleyball has come to America and it's a bit of

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01:56:58,760 --> 01:57:03,000
Speaker 2: the tip of the iceberg. So we show what volleyball is,

2139
01:57:03,040 --> 01:57:05,600
Speaker 2: we show how volleyball can change. People have all eyes

2140
01:57:05,600 --> 01:57:07,840
Speaker 2: on us, and we are the top of the top us.

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01:57:07,840 --> 01:57:11,520
Speaker 2: So we absolutely must understand our influence and understand how

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01:57:11,520 --> 01:57:13,200
Speaker 2: many young women are going to be watching us every

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01:57:13,240 --> 01:57:15,000
Speaker 2: day and the way we play, the character that we

2144
01:57:15,040 --> 01:57:15,560
Speaker 2: play with.

2145
01:57:15,800 --> 01:57:16,240
Speaker 4: Who we are.

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01:57:16,440 --> 01:57:19,160
Speaker 2: I think it's very important and something we certainly won't

2147
01:57:19,160 --> 01:57:22,320
Speaker 2: take lightly at Indian Nightham. And we really wanted to

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01:57:22,440 --> 01:57:25,080
Speaker 2: find what professional volleyball is going to look like in

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01:57:25,080 --> 01:57:28,000
Speaker 2: Indiana and hopefully that can sort of drip down into

2150
01:57:28,040 --> 01:57:31,120
Speaker 2: the huge club scene we have here as well. And yeah,

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01:57:31,120 --> 01:57:33,120
Speaker 2: I'm very excited for the influence that we can have.

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01:57:33,400 --> 01:57:35,560
Speaker 1: By the way, how cool was it to live in Switzerland?

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01:57:35,640 --> 01:57:38,280
Speaker 1: I've never been, you know. Now, let me ask you, actually, coach,

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01:57:38,360 --> 01:57:40,800
Speaker 1: let me ask you this. I need you've got to be.

2155
01:57:40,920 --> 01:57:42,760
Speaker 1: I'm going to allow you to be the judge and

2156
01:57:42,840 --> 01:57:45,920
Speaker 1: jury on a very important question. Here are you ready?

2157
01:57:46,760 --> 01:57:47,120
Speaker 2: I am?

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01:57:47,360 --> 01:57:51,680
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm flying coming up in a month here. I'm

2159
01:57:51,720 --> 01:57:53,840
Speaker 1: going on a vacation where I have a four hour

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Speaker 1: layover in the Geneva, Switzerland airport. That's just a layover,

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01:57:57,920 --> 01:58:02,240
Speaker 1: four hour layover, Okay, So I will get off the

2162
01:58:02,280 --> 01:58:04,720
Speaker 1: plane and I'll be at the airport. I likely will

2163
01:58:04,760 --> 01:58:08,160
Speaker 1: not have time to leave the airport. Can I check

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01:58:08,200 --> 01:58:10,720
Speaker 1: the box saying that I've been in Switzerland or does

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01:58:10,720 --> 01:58:11,440
Speaker 1: that not count?

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01:58:12,480 --> 01:58:13,600
Speaker 2: Absolutely does not count.

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01:58:14,800 --> 01:58:18,520
Speaker 1: Okay, Hold on, what if I leave the airport and

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01:58:18,560 --> 01:58:20,560
Speaker 1: I just go and get a piece of Swiss chocolate

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01:58:20,600 --> 01:58:22,280
Speaker 1: and then come back into the airport and go back

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01:58:22,280 --> 01:58:23,800
Speaker 1: through security, does it then count?

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01:58:24,720 --> 01:58:26,520
Speaker 2: Yeah? And that's actually all the gatur You got to

2172
01:58:26,560 --> 01:58:28,920
Speaker 2: get down to the Jeneva like, grab a croissant an?

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01:58:30,880 --> 01:58:33,400
Speaker 1: How far is that from the airport? Will I have time?

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01:58:33,520 --> 01:58:35,640
Speaker 1: This is the this is the stuff I really want

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01:58:35,680 --> 01:58:37,440
Speaker 1: to get to. Will I have time to do that?

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01:58:38,600 --> 01:58:40,160
Speaker 2: Yeah? You'll be able to have a little quick stop

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Speaker 2: in the city, Yes.

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Speaker 1: All right, and then then it will count, right, it

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Speaker 1: will count. Okay. So honestly though, how did you go

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Speaker 1: from Australia to Switzerland and what you know? I mean,

2181
01:58:52,360 --> 01:58:55,600
Speaker 1: that's a world away obviously. How did that change you?

2182
01:58:55,600 --> 01:58:57,200
Speaker 1: How did that grow you? Not only as a coach,

2183
01:58:57,240 --> 01:58:58,760
Speaker 1: but maybe as a person as well, to be that

2184
01:58:58,840 --> 01:58:59,480
Speaker 1: far from home?

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01:59:00,480 --> 01:59:03,200
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, yeah. I actually left Australia when I was twenty.

2186
01:59:03,800 --> 01:59:07,320
Speaker 2: There was no there is still no professional volleyball league in Australia,

2187
01:59:07,360 --> 01:59:09,640
Speaker 2: so I want to make make my living from that.

2188
01:59:09,720 --> 01:59:12,040
Speaker 2: It was a necessity to head to Europe, So I did,

2189
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Speaker 2: and I think it set me on my career path.

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01:59:15,760 --> 01:59:17,160
Speaker 4: It's opened to all my opportunities.

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01:59:17,200 --> 01:59:21,080
Speaker 2: That's exposed me to many many different cultures. And I

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01:59:22,720 --> 01:59:24,360
Speaker 2: don't even think i'd be close to the same person

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Speaker 2: as I am right now, but it certainly was. It's

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Speaker 2: been an amazing twenty years that I've spent in Europe,

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01:59:28,880 --> 01:59:31,160
Speaker 2: and I think every every journey I've taken, it's been

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Speaker 2: really important and wouldn't trade anything.

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Speaker 1: And your dog is Swiss, Is that right?

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Speaker 4: Yep?

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Speaker 2: My dog Swiss yep.

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Speaker 1: Barks in several languages. Then right, it's impressed.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's impressed, very very very very impressive.

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Speaker 1: Yep. The one thing I know about Australia and this

2203
01:59:46,920 --> 01:59:50,280
Speaker 1: is the biggest stereotype of all time. But many people

2204
01:59:50,280 --> 01:59:52,560
Speaker 1: that listen to this show know of my friends that

2205
01:59:52,600 --> 01:59:55,480
Speaker 1: I met through the Pacers from Melbourne the ass They've

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01:59:55,480 --> 01:59:58,480
Speaker 1: been here for several games. They brought me vegemite on

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01:59:58,560 --> 02:00:01,720
Speaker 1: several occasions. I pretend, for the sake of, you know,

2208
02:00:01,800 --> 02:00:04,000
Speaker 1: not offending them, that I really like it, but I

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Speaker 1: find it horrifically too salty and gross. Do you like vegamite?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, then if you don't like it. You're

2211
02:00:10,880 --> 02:00:11,839
Speaker 2: not using it correctly.

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Speaker 1: That's what they tell you.

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02:00:13,200 --> 02:00:15,360
Speaker 2: A little bit little yeah, a little bit on the

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02:00:15,360 --> 02:00:19,680
Speaker 2: bread and you you're golden. Yeah.

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02:00:18,280 --> 02:00:21,600
Speaker 1: Well, I have nine pounds of it at home from

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02:00:21,600 --> 02:00:24,080
Speaker 1: their visits, so if you need any you let me know. Also,

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02:00:24,120 --> 02:00:27,680
Speaker 1: now they do bring Tim Tams, however, are awesome Tim Tams?

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Speaker 1: I'm down with.

2219
02:00:28,440 --> 02:00:31,800
Speaker 2: Right, I got a Dune Convenion copyler.

2220
02:00:32,560 --> 02:00:35,680
Speaker 1: And listen, maybe I could get some of the Tim

2221
02:00:35,720 --> 02:00:38,000
Speaker 1: Tams when I step out to go to the lake

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02:00:38,040 --> 02:00:40,080
Speaker 1: in Geneva so that I can check Switzerland off the

2223
02:00:40,080 --> 02:00:43,480
Speaker 1: box because it's all chocolate, right, I'm curious of this.

2224
02:00:43,560 --> 02:00:46,000
Speaker 1: Have you seen Ignite the Fire, which is the Heartland

2225
02:00:46,000 --> 02:00:49,880
Speaker 1: Film Festival film about the inaugural season of the indie

2226
02:00:49,880 --> 02:00:52,760
Speaker 1: Ignite and the enthusiasm for them in this community.

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Speaker 2: Yep, I've seen it. It was very motivating and really

2228
02:00:57,560 --> 02:01:01,160
Speaker 2: really impressively done, and they captured the the season, so

2229
02:01:01,440 --> 02:01:04,120
Speaker 2: it made me even more excited. Sif started, are.

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Speaker 1: You excited to watch this on Thursday at Gamebridge Field House,

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02:01:06,720 --> 02:01:09,920
Speaker 1: the Modern Spike match between Indiana and Purdue, Because I

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02:01:10,000 --> 02:01:12,360
Speaker 1: do think that you know, here you have two college

2233
02:01:12,440 --> 02:01:15,080
Speaker 1: programs that are from right here in central Indiana that

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02:01:15,120 --> 02:01:18,320
Speaker 1: are both nationally ranked, and again, I think coach that

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Speaker 1: that kind of illuminates the enthusiasm and the skill set

2236
02:01:22,480 --> 02:01:25,640
Speaker 1: for this sport and this area. I'm assuming you're pretty

2237
02:01:25,640 --> 02:01:27,879
Speaker 1: excited to be able to experience that coming up Thursday.

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02:01:28,840 --> 02:01:30,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think we have pretty close to

2239
02:01:30,880 --> 02:01:33,720
Speaker 2: a top twenty matchup right down the road in India

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Speaker 2: and in a historic place to watch volleyball for the

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Speaker 2: first time. I think it absolutely shows the community that's

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02:01:41,480 --> 02:01:43,280
Speaker 2: been here for a really long time time, but it's

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02:01:43,280 --> 02:01:46,520
Speaker 2: building and growing and showing a volleyball stands in a match.

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02:01:46,800 --> 02:01:50,120
Speaker 2: Indiana's having a really good start to their season and

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Speaker 2: I mean to do it so historically at a great team,

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Speaker 2: So I'm pretty excited to watch it.

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Speaker 1: Twenty second ranked Indiana twelfth ranked Purdue. Lastly, for you guys,

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Speaker 1: the schedule coming up here, because it's going to happen

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Speaker 1: quickly now that you're here. I mean you're going to

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Speaker 1: basically jump into it. Correct me if I'm wrong. Draft

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Speaker 1: coming up for you guys in a couple of weeks,

2252
02:02:10,600 --> 02:02:13,480
Speaker 1: then into camp in December, and then everything getting underway

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Speaker 1: in January.

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Speaker 7: Correct exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, We'll actually have an official schedule coming out later

2256
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Speaker 2: this month, and the draft will happen near the end

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Speaker 2: of November. Then we'll start our training camp. Draft athletes

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Speaker 2: will join us sort of as they finish their programs.

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Speaker 2: I can get a little bit of rest, of course,

2260
02:02:28,240 --> 02:02:29,440
Speaker 2: because it's a crazy season for.

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Speaker 4: Them as well.

2262
02:02:30,200 --> 02:02:32,880
Speaker 2: And then yeah, early January, Dyleice to have our first game.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you it's awesome, folks. You need to come

2264
02:02:34,920 --> 02:02:37,200
Speaker 1: out and see it. I've mentioned before that Lecator member

2265
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Speaker 1: Mena is one of my favorite athletes in Central Indiana

2266
02:02:40,320 --> 02:02:44,560
Speaker 1: because the athleticism is incredible. Coach and certainly look forward

2267
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Speaker 1: to it. Appreciate the time. Welcome to Indianapolis, all right,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much.

2269
02:02:48,600 --> 02:02:49,160
Speaker 4: Appreciate it.

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02:02:49,240 --> 02:02:51,880
Speaker 1: Appreciate it again. Joining us on the Java House Peel

2271
02:02:51,880 --> 02:02:53,720
Speaker 1: and poor guest line. She is the head coach of

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02:02:53,760 --> 02:02:57,640
Speaker 1: the indian Night Lauren Bertalachi joining us on the show

2273
02:02:57,720 --> 02:03:01,879
Speaker 1: again Thursday night monon Spike match at Gamebridge between Indiana

2274
02:03:01,920 --> 02:03:04,800
Speaker 1: and Purdue Top twenty five matchup number twenty two Indiana

2275
02:03:04,880 --> 02:03:08,080
Speaker 1: and number twelve Purdue, and then again Gamebridge Field House

2276
02:03:08,080 --> 02:03:12,040
Speaker 1: website for ticket information and as well. The film Ignite

2277
02:03:12,480 --> 02:03:17,120
Speaker 1: the fire which is about the India ignites inaugural season. Corbyn,

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02:03:17,160 --> 02:03:19,600
Speaker 1: what do you think does it count? Do I have

2279
02:03:19,680 --> 02:03:21,240
Speaker 1: to go by her rules? Do I need to leave

2280
02:03:21,320 --> 02:03:25,120
Speaker 1: the airport and go out and do something in Geneva

2281
02:03:25,160 --> 02:03:26,840
Speaker 1: and then come back into the airport and go through

2282
02:03:26,840 --> 02:03:28,520
Speaker 1: security all over again for it to count to say

2283
02:03:28,520 --> 02:03:31,360
Speaker 1: that I've been to Switzerland, Yes, four out. You don't

2284
02:03:31,360 --> 02:03:33,840
Speaker 1: think four hours sitting and just like sitting and like

2285
02:03:33,920 --> 02:03:37,520
Speaker 1: reading the local paper or something counts. No, man, but

2286
02:03:37,600 --> 02:03:39,400
Speaker 1: gene you gotta go. I mean, now, here's the other

2287
02:03:39,440 --> 02:03:44,480
Speaker 1: buzzkill of it all. And I didn't. I'm not like

2288
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Speaker 1: some world traveler by any stretch of the imagination. But

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02:03:46,840 --> 02:03:49,520
Speaker 1: if you have a passport, and I'm like a kid

2290
02:03:49,520 --> 02:03:51,720
Speaker 1: in this regard, I want the stamp on the passport

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Speaker 1: from the country. Right. What is the total buzzkill of

2292
02:03:55,120 --> 02:03:57,440
Speaker 1: it all is if you go to Europe and you

2293
02:03:57,520 --> 02:04:00,000
Speaker 1: are going to countries that are all within the European Union.

2294
02:04:00,120 --> 02:04:02,280
Speaker 1: Now it's like going to the US. If you go

2295
02:04:02,320 --> 02:04:05,600
Speaker 1: from Kentucky to Georgia to Tennessee, whatever, it's all the same,

2296
02:04:05,680 --> 02:04:09,200
Speaker 1: so that you only get your passport stamped once. And

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02:04:09,360 --> 02:04:12,600
Speaker 1: my understanding is in Switzerland. When I land there, they

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02:04:12,640 --> 02:04:15,400
Speaker 1: don't typically stamp the passport. You have to ask for it,

2299
02:04:16,200 --> 02:04:19,240
Speaker 1: but then once you go from there to elsewhere, you don't.

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Speaker 1: So it's possible if I'm flying all the way over there,

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Speaker 1: I'm passport stamped, right, I mean that is that too

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Speaker 1: Am I too much a kid there? Or is that

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Speaker 1: a legitimate point that time?

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Speaker 4: I'll agree with you.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you. So I'm one for two is what

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Speaker 8: little bit later on. I love it, Jay, because I

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02:05:37,440 --> 02:05:39,360
Speaker 8: sit right here in the window, like they have the

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02:05:39,640 --> 02:05:43,680
Speaker 8: garage door window open, and literally there's me in a

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02:05:43,720 --> 02:05:48,080
Speaker 8: short sidewalk, and then there's Meridian northbound right here and southbound.

2330
02:05:48,120 --> 02:05:50,920
Speaker 8: So I like it when people drive by and I

2331
02:05:50,920 --> 02:05:52,760
Speaker 8: tell them to honk when they drive by this place,

2332
02:05:52,800 --> 02:05:54,960
Speaker 8: they honk just to make sure people.

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02:05:54,680 --> 02:05:56,120
Speaker 1: Are I love it. I love it.

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02:05:56,120 --> 02:05:58,160
Speaker 8: See if we can get somebody to honk here as

2335
02:05:58,240 --> 02:06:02,200
Speaker 8: we're we're going. If you're driving down South Meridian right here,

2336
02:06:02,400 --> 02:06:07,680
Speaker 8: right around Pleasant Round Parkway, you'll see Bearinger's tavern. It's famous.

2337
02:06:07,680 --> 02:06:10,120
Speaker 8: I want you to hank. I want you to lay

2338
02:06:10,120 --> 02:06:13,040
Speaker 8: on the horn to make sure that we know that

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02:06:13,120 --> 02:06:15,240
Speaker 8: you're listening right there. No, it's a really fun thing

2340
02:06:15,240 --> 02:06:16,760
Speaker 8: to do. This is a great place, Jake. I know

2341
02:06:16,800 --> 02:06:19,560
Speaker 8: you've been here before, and you're a history buff here

2342
02:06:19,680 --> 02:06:23,120
Speaker 8: in Central Indiana and Indianapolis, and this has absolutely all

2343
02:06:23,160 --> 02:06:23,440
Speaker 8: of it.

2344
02:06:23,680 --> 02:06:27,040
Speaker 1: One hundred and forty years. Burger's Tenderloins, you name it, right.

2345
02:06:27,760 --> 02:06:31,600
Speaker 8: Dellinger and Capone and everybody been in this place before.

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02:06:32,040 --> 02:06:33,960
Speaker 1: John you mentioned last night. I thought you made a

2347
02:06:33,960 --> 02:06:37,960
Speaker 1: really interesting point about watching the Pacers last night. And

2348
02:06:39,160 --> 02:06:41,920
Speaker 1: you know his speaking of history, I mean historically of

2349
02:06:42,040 --> 02:06:44,720
Speaker 1: late we have seen the Pacers in terms of a

2350
02:06:44,760 --> 02:06:46,760
Speaker 1: center that we're used to seeing, being able to draw

2351
02:06:46,760 --> 02:06:49,880
Speaker 1: a defense out with a high post. And I'm not

2352
02:06:49,920 --> 02:06:51,720
Speaker 1: saying we won't see it this year, but we certainly

2353
02:06:51,720 --> 02:06:52,920
Speaker 1: haven't seen it yet.

2354
02:06:53,800 --> 02:06:57,560
Speaker 8: No, we haven't. It was interesting last night. I watched

2355
02:06:57,560 --> 02:06:59,080
Speaker 8: it for a long period of time you were there.

2356
02:06:59,160 --> 02:07:02,120
Speaker 8: I watched it, and it was weird watching the ball

2357
02:07:02,280 --> 02:07:05,720
Speaker 8: stick as much as it did in one person's hands

2358
02:07:06,000 --> 02:07:08,120
Speaker 8: and not move around. I know it's the preseason, and

2359
02:07:08,160 --> 02:07:09,880
Speaker 8: I'll talk about this coming up after three.

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02:07:10,520 --> 02:07:13,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's up there? We go, Yeah, and it's weird.

2361
02:07:14,840 --> 02:07:19,640
Speaker 8: Then it's weird to see guys not give two craps

2362
02:07:19,680 --> 02:07:22,600
Speaker 8: defensively about being up on the perimeter of a big guy.

2363
02:07:23,360 --> 02:07:25,680
Speaker 1: Man, I'll tell you what. Those guys can't shoot a

2364
02:07:25,680 --> 02:07:26,320
Speaker 1: lick right now.

2365
02:07:26,880 --> 02:07:30,640
Speaker 8: They can one of these days, but Jake, Yeah, I mean,

2366
02:07:30,680 --> 02:07:33,520
Speaker 8: I know it's preseason, but they don't look like they can.

2367
02:07:33,440 --> 02:07:34,240
Speaker 1: Shoot a lick now.

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02:07:34,280 --> 02:07:36,040
Speaker 8: It doesn't look like all of a sudden you're going

2369
02:07:36,080 --> 02:07:38,720
Speaker 8: to be one and it's preseason.

2370
02:07:38,800 --> 02:07:41,839
Speaker 1: But John, the reality is, between Wiseman, Jackson and Huffy

2371
02:07:42,000 --> 02:07:43,960
Speaker 1: there's been no separation from any of the three of

2372
02:07:44,000 --> 02:07:45,720
Speaker 1: them of like, well, this guy's going to be the guy,

2373
02:07:45,800 --> 02:07:48,760
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, right, and that's that's

2374
02:07:48,800 --> 02:07:49,640
Speaker 1: going to be tough.

2375
02:07:49,760 --> 02:07:52,320
Speaker 8: I mean, it really is going to be tough if

2376
02:07:52,640 --> 02:07:54,080
Speaker 8: you're not capable of doing that.

2377
02:07:54,320 --> 02:07:57,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, the whole ball movement thing, and I again, I.

2378
02:07:57,560 --> 02:08:00,800
Speaker 8: Know that we're talking about games that absolutely matter, but

2379
02:08:01,240 --> 02:08:03,160
Speaker 8: those are two things that stuck out to me last night.

2380
02:08:03,200 --> 02:08:06,040
Speaker 8: They're going to be really weird to watch once the

2381
02:08:06,080 --> 02:08:07,720
Speaker 8: season officially Jake is underway.

2382
02:08:07,920 --> 02:08:09,240
Speaker 1: What's lined up on the big show?

2383
02:08:10,440 --> 02:08:13,839
Speaker 8: Rick Venturi four o'clock hour for everybody's listening enjoyment.

2384
02:08:13,880 --> 02:08:14,560
Speaker 1: Can't wait for that.

2385
02:08:15,480 --> 02:08:17,600
Speaker 8: Greg Ragstraw's coming up. And by the way, you saw

2386
02:08:17,640 --> 02:08:20,720
Speaker 8: Paul McCartney in Denver I did in the weekend. My

2387
02:08:20,840 --> 02:08:23,240
Speaker 8: daughter is in des Moines, Iowa and going to see

2388
02:08:23,280 --> 02:08:24,280
Speaker 8: McCartney tonight.

2389
02:08:24,400 --> 02:08:27,360
Speaker 1: She is actually in the same hotel as McCartney. Oh wow,

2390
02:08:27,480 --> 02:08:29,240
Speaker 1: because she.

2391
02:08:28,280 --> 02:08:30,879
Speaker 8: Yeah, she got in the elevator and a guy introduced

2392
02:08:30,960 --> 02:08:35,240
Speaker 8: himself holding his guitar as one of the guitarists. And

2393
02:08:35,320 --> 02:08:37,680
Speaker 8: she goes back and looks on her phone and there

2394
02:08:37,680 --> 02:08:40,240
Speaker 8: he was in a picture with McCartney. So, yeah, they're

2395
02:08:40,280 --> 02:08:44,360
Speaker 8: in the same hotel with McCartney in des Moines, Iowa.

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02:08:44,400 --> 02:08:46,440
Speaker 1: Of all, is that a high v thing? The day's

2397
02:08:46,480 --> 02:08:47,880
Speaker 1: end as they say at the days in there in

2398
02:08:47,880 --> 02:08:49,320
Speaker 1: des Moin Yeah, there's staying at.

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02:08:49,120 --> 02:08:52,080
Speaker 8: The Super eight right overlooking the quarry right off of

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02:08:52,120 --> 02:08:54,520
Speaker 8: four forty six that's right by the way. Because you

2401
02:08:54,600 --> 02:08:57,120
Speaker 8: got homecoming weekend down in Bloomington. How much do you

2402
02:08:57,160 --> 02:09:00,000
Speaker 8: think for the Super eight that overlooks that old quarry

2403
02:09:00,160 --> 02:09:02,360
Speaker 8: on four to forty six right next to Arlington Heights

2404
02:09:02,480 --> 02:09:03,520
Speaker 8: Elementary right there.

2405
02:09:03,600 --> 02:09:06,120
Speaker 1: What happened right now to be I haven't looked. It's

2406
02:09:06,120 --> 02:09:09,000
Speaker 1: got to be high right now with the top five hoosiers, man,

2407
02:09:09,040 --> 02:09:11,440
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? Like? Bring it on? I mean,

2408
02:09:11,480 --> 02:09:12,160
Speaker 1: every you know.

2409
02:09:12,880 --> 02:09:16,040
Speaker 8: They would be like zero to five, and it would

2410
02:09:16,040 --> 02:09:19,080
Speaker 8: still be like seven hundred dollars a night for homecoming

2411
02:09:19,080 --> 02:09:21,400
Speaker 8: weekend back then. I can't imagine how much it is now.

2412
02:09:21,600 --> 02:09:24,960
Speaker 1: Imagine how much it's going to be December sixth. We

2413
02:09:25,040 --> 02:09:28,320
Speaker 1: might have talked about this yesterday, Indiana Louisville in basketball

2414
02:09:28,480 --> 02:09:31,520
Speaker 1: downtown Indy and then the Big Ten Football Championship at

2415
02:09:31,560 --> 02:09:35,320
Speaker 1: Lucas Oroyl Stadium that night, and presumably Indiana on a

2416
02:09:35,520 --> 02:09:37,880
Speaker 1: path to potentially get there. But we'll see, right, a

2417
02:09:37,920 --> 02:09:40,240
Speaker 1: lot of football to be played, but still that could

2418
02:09:40,320 --> 02:09:44,560
Speaker 1: be electric coming up here in what just under two months. Yeah.

2419
02:09:44,640 --> 02:09:47,640
Speaker 8: I talked to Matt Surfis yesterday and he's a guy

2420
02:09:47,680 --> 02:09:49,880
Speaker 8: that's been around as a player and then a fan

2421
02:09:49,960 --> 02:09:53,000
Speaker 8: a lot of IU football in the past, and it

2422
02:09:53,040 --> 02:09:55,280
Speaker 8: was good to talk with him about that, because those

2423
02:09:55,280 --> 02:09:57,600
Speaker 8: are the types of folks that are thrilled with the

2424
02:09:57,640 --> 02:10:00,200
Speaker 8: way this product looks right now, those that have been

2425
02:10:00,240 --> 02:10:03,920
Speaker 8: a part of it forever and watching it under any circumstances.

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02:10:04,160 --> 02:10:07,000
Speaker 1: Pretty special for those folks too, probably even more so. Yeah,

2427
02:10:07,080 --> 02:10:08,920
Speaker 1: pretty awesome stuff, all right, John's going to be out

2428
02:10:08,960 --> 02:10:12,240
Speaker 1: of bearings on again South Meridian. Been there for one

2429
02:10:12,280 --> 02:10:14,120
Speaker 1: hundred and forty years. It ain't going anywhere, and he's

2430
02:10:14,160 --> 02:10:15,400
Speaker 1: going to be there for the rest of the day.

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02:10:15,400 --> 02:10:17,560
Speaker 1: If you're going past, give him a honk. We'll hand

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02:10:17,560 --> 02:10:18,640
Speaker 1: it off to you in just a couple of minutes.

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02:10:18,640 --> 02:10:21,120
Speaker 1: All right, John, you got hey? By the way, that's

2434
02:10:21,160 --> 02:10:24,000
Speaker 1: my version of honk. If you're horny right there, even

2435
02:10:24,040 --> 02:10:26,960
Speaker 1: do that. Back of the day, Hank, give your hornynk.

2436
02:10:27,240 --> 02:10:29,120
Speaker 1: I lived right off Alison Mill Road. We did all

2437
02:10:29,200 --> 02:10:30,880
Speaker 1: kinds of stuff and getting people to honk. Are you

2438
02:10:31,000 --> 02:10:34,960
Speaker 1: kidding me? Right? Seventy third outs Tuesday? All right, we'll

2439
02:10:35,200 --> 02:10:36,480
Speaker 1: hand it off to you in just a little bit,

2440
02:10:36,560 --> 02:10:40,200
Speaker 1: and Rick Venturia will be with j MV coming up later.

2441
02:10:40,280 --> 02:10:42,400
Speaker 1: Somebody had asked earlier, by the way, I haven't given

2442
02:10:42,440 --> 02:10:44,960
Speaker 1: an update on two things that I probably left hanging

2443
02:10:44,960 --> 02:10:47,200
Speaker 1: in the balance. Number one if I did not answer it.

2444
02:10:47,240 --> 02:10:49,760
Speaker 1: He had just mentioned the fact that I was in

2445
02:10:49,840 --> 02:10:52,800
Speaker 1: Denver to see Paul McCartney and the great uber Gate

2446
02:10:53,360 --> 02:10:55,160
Speaker 1: with Shannon where I was didn't know if I should

2447
02:10:55,160 --> 02:10:56,840
Speaker 1: be offended or not that she did not, that she

2448
02:10:56,960 --> 02:10:59,400
Speaker 1: was like, can you just uber from the airport? And

2449
02:10:59,600 --> 02:11:04,640
Speaker 1: I will say that Denver Airport by square area square footage.

2450
02:11:04,720 --> 02:11:08,240
Speaker 1: Second largest airport in the world and it is like

2451
02:11:08,880 --> 02:11:13,680
Speaker 1: forty minutes from anywhere in Denver, huge airport. The uber

2452
02:11:13,720 --> 02:11:15,160
Speaker 1: was one hundred and thirty five bucks. But she did

2453
02:11:15,240 --> 02:11:17,680
Speaker 1: pick me up. She did pick me up. So I

2454
02:11:17,680 --> 02:11:19,720
Speaker 1: threw a timper tantrum. I acted like a five year old,

2455
02:11:19,720 --> 02:11:21,960
Speaker 1: and she finally said, okay, fine, quit complaining, and she

2456
02:11:21,960 --> 02:11:24,360
Speaker 1: came and picked me up. Concert was really good. A

2457
02:11:24,440 --> 02:11:27,040
Speaker 1: show was good, as for ubers and cars. Somebody also

2458
02:11:27,120 --> 02:11:30,760
Speaker 1: asked about the saga that has been my car repair.

2459
02:11:32,160 --> 02:11:35,960
Speaker 1: It has been since the middle of August that my

2460
02:11:36,080 --> 02:11:41,400
Speaker 1: car had one, albeit under warranty, engine problem that I

2461
02:11:41,440 --> 02:11:44,720
Speaker 1: took in. They then kept discovering more and more and

2462
02:11:44,760 --> 02:11:47,120
Speaker 1: more within the engine, all of it under warranty. Got

2463
02:11:47,120 --> 02:11:50,920
Speaker 1: that all taken care of, and then I drove it

2464
02:11:51,280 --> 02:11:53,400
Speaker 1: all of a half a day and the engine blew up.

2465
02:11:53,920 --> 02:11:57,600
Speaker 1: So they are replacing the engine. It is under warranty.

2466
02:11:57,640 --> 02:11:59,840
Speaker 1: I'm getting a quote unquote new engine. Whether that means

2467
02:12:00,200 --> 02:12:02,520
Speaker 1: new out of the box or that means rebuilt, I'm

2468
02:12:02,560 --> 02:12:06,920
Speaker 1: not certain, but coming up they tell me that it's

2469
02:12:06,920 --> 02:12:08,320
Speaker 1: going to be done at the end of this week,

2470
02:12:08,600 --> 02:12:10,760
Speaker 1: so we shall see. But somebody had asked, and that

2471
02:12:10,960 --> 02:12:14,320
Speaker 1: is the latest on my car. All right, John's up

2472
02:12:14,320 --> 02:12:16,280
Speaker 1: next again. As he mentioned, Rick Venturi will be with

2473
02:12:16,320 --> 02:12:18,480
Speaker 1: them in the four o'clock hour. I want to again

2474
02:12:18,520 --> 02:12:21,720
Speaker 1: thanks Scott Agnes for joining me today, Stephen Holder as well,

2475
02:12:22,320 --> 02:12:25,600
Speaker 1: and as well Lauren Berdolozzi, the new coach of the

2476
02:12:25,640 --> 02:12:33,200
Speaker 1: Indian Night. I thank you for listening to Query and Company.