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Speaker 1: In Facting with the Most Submissive, The Carl Nelson Show,

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Speaker 1: in Facting with the Most Submissive.

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Speaker 2: And Grand Rising Family, and thanks for starting your week

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Speaker 2: with us again. Later, camatologist Tony Browner will unlock the

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Speaker 2: significance of the spring equinox, it's relationship to the moon,

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Speaker 2: and also Holy Week for Christians. But before we hear

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Speaker 2: from brother Tony, author Willie Jolly will preview his latest book,

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Speaker 2: Rich is good, but Wealth is Better. But to get

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Speaker 2: us started, MoMA Teller financial analyst Michael Redmond will join us.

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Speaker 2: But first let's get Kevin to open up these classroom

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Speaker 2: doors on this point. Morning, Grand Rising, Kevin.

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Speaker 1: Grand Rising, Carl Nelson, Monday, Monday, So good to me.

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Speaker 3: How you feeling.

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Speaker 2: I'm still learning, Kevin, I'm still learning. Brother.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what Socrates said about learning, right?

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Speaker 2: You know what did he say?

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Speaker 1: Socrates said that intelligent individuals learned from everyone, everywhere and everything.

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Speaker 1: Average individuals learned from their experiences, But stupid people already

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Speaker 1: know everything.

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Speaker 3: That's according to Socrates. Now that's not bad, not calling

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Speaker 3: anyone stupid.

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Speaker 2: But I know he probably got that from stole that

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Speaker 2: from my ancestors. You know, all those Greeks. They stole

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Speaker 2: everything from Well, maybe asked a brother Tony when he

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Speaker 2: comes in about that one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I will, I'll ask him all we can

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Speaker 1: ask my old friend Willie Jolly man. I'm glad you

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Speaker 1: got this is like friends Day, Willie, Tony Browner, you know.

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Speaker 1: And of course we got your guests through standing by

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Speaker 1: waiting to chime in as well. So it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a great monday, man, I tell you right right, right now,

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Speaker 1: it's not such a great monday for I don't know

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Speaker 1: where to start.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 1: There was that warning. There's a warning now I ran

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Speaker 1: indefinite closure. Hormuz is warning to Trump's blackout threat. And

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Speaker 1: you had more details about that, the Trump's threat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because he made a threat and supposed it's tonight.

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Speaker 2: He gave them this is one of the things you

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Speaker 2: don't do in politics, and they always tell you about

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Speaker 2: drawing a line in the sand. Yeah, then if they

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Speaker 2: cross it, you've got to react. And Obama learned that

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Speaker 2: it's one of things you just don't do. And so

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Speaker 2: he says if they don't by midnight tonight, all hell

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Speaker 2: is going to break close. And people saying, what does

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Speaker 2: he mean, Well, yeah, n d.

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Speaker 3: TV World website.

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Speaker 1: He said, and I quote it's he said, the US

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Speaker 1: will destroy its various power plans, starting with the biggest

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Speaker 1: one first. And you know that's how sheriff Sheriff Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump plays this wild West game. Man, it is really wild.

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Speaker 1: And his warning came after the US He said, the

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Speaker 1: US will obliterate Iran's power plans if it didn't fully

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Speaker 1: open the Strait of Humus within forty eight hours. The

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Speaker 1: American commander in chief is facing increasing pressure to secure

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Speaker 1: the strait as oil prices. Sore issued the ultimatum in

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Speaker 1: a social media post, of all things, while he's spent

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Speaker 1: the weekend at his Florida home. Your thoughts, Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: first he did it on a social media post. Why

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Speaker 1: not issue it on the from the White House on

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Speaker 1: the station. Make it official, make it official. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just an opinion when it's on a media post.

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Speaker 1: But having said that, though Iran's threatened to escalate strikes

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Speaker 1: destination desalination facilities if Trump does out, because you know,

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Speaker 1: most of them they don't have. Most of them get

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Speaker 1: from Tehran says that Iran has threatened to close the

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Speaker 1: with President Donald Trump's warning of bombing the energy facilities

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Speaker 3: The war in the Middle East.

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Speaker 1: The Iranian military said that if the country's energy infrastructures

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Speaker 1: to a report by CNN. Finally, Tehran has also warned

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Speaker 2: See, right, and it's so vague, you know what's what

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Speaker 2: them to do something. Okay, we're gonna ignore it. On

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Speaker 2: what you're gonna do, then you're gonna have to follow

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Speaker 2: through and treasure sector. Ben's bessen't. I think that's how

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Speaker 2: I pronounce the name. Was our meet the press and

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Speaker 2: they were asking him, well, you know, what what's he

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Speaker 2: it looks like they have a concept of a plan

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Speaker 3: All options are open. Hey, moving right along.

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Speaker 1: The Senate Republican says there's no end in sight for

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Speaker 1: the partial shutdown. Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin on Sunday

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Speaker 1: said there was no end in sight, and he said,

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Speaker 1: So President Trump is being forced to do something to

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Speaker 1: reduce those airports. Again, it's just inconscionable what Democrats are doing,

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Speaker 1: holding them accountable, Johnson said. Doing an appearance on News

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Speaker 1: we would have been excoriated. Well, you know, heavily criticized

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Speaker 1: So this story leads to the other story that we

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Speaker 2: All right? First thing, you know, first, he says that

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Speaker 2: I'm not hearing this being reported quite a bit. They said,

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Speaker 2: But let's take off out of that. Let's take out

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Speaker 2: they should you know, cover their faces are not. That's

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Speaker 2: the issue, the sticking point. And the other issue is, well,

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Speaker 2: Kevin that the privatation privatitation of TSA was in Project

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Speaker 1: Well, one more quote from the President. It's at this

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Speaker 3: So I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Is if he hasn't got a lot of other issues

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Speaker 1: But anyway, finally it's Woman's History Month and I've been

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Speaker 1: enjoying it. And today's feature is one of my favorite artists.

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Speaker 1: Alice Walker born Alice Malsenior Tallulah Kate Walker.

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Speaker 3: In nineteen forty four.

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Speaker 1: She's an American novelist, short story writer, poet, and social activist.

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Speaker 1: In nineteen eighty two, she became the first African American

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Speaker 1: who we're talking about today, and that's the way it is.

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Speaker 1: On the twenty third of March, Carl, thanks for your time.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, while you get him, let me just share

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Speaker 2: Alice Walker was born. And so Kevin, I just wanted

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Speaker 2: to share that with a family. But I know Michael

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Speaker 2: Michael is a financial analyst, share with us. You know what,

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Speaker 2: all these issues with this war or rumors of warview

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Speaker 2: Michael Grant Rising, Welcome back to the.

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Speaker 5: Program, Green Rising, Good morning.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, sir, And I was just telling the family.

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Speaker 2: You're down in Atlanta, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the infamous Stone Mountain. Good Finally we got many

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Speaker 2: they're saying that everything you know, it's country outside of Atlanta,

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Speaker 2: let's get to the let's get to the business. Michael, Uh,

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Speaker 2: explain to us, are we heading into a recession? How

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Speaker 2: do you see this? The effects of what's what we

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Speaker 5: How do you see Yeah, that I would uh think

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Speaker 5: that that's where we're headed, uh, Carl, and most of

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Speaker 5: we're definitely headed into a recession. Really, we're already in

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Speaker 2: Well, having said that, Michael, so where do we put

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Speaker 5: Well, my opinion is that you should invest in hard assets,

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Speaker 5: But the direction and the advice basically is to invest

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but oo, I thought right there, Michael. We're gott

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Speaker 2: of that working out? I'll let you respond when we

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Speaker 2: get back. Family, you two can get in on this conversation.

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Speaker 2: Like guess he's a financial analyst. Your name is Michael Redmond.

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Speaker 2: You can reach him at eight hundred four to five

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Speaker 2: zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take your phone calls.

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Speaker 2: Next and Grand Rising family, thanks for starting your week

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Speaker 2: with us. Twenty minutes off the top of the ay

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Speaker 2: with my financial analyst Michael Redmond and Mike. Before we

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Speaker 5: Well, silver to me is a great bargain. And again

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Speaker 5: when I speak of gold and silver, I'm speaking of

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Speaker 5: Matter of fact, the markets had been really crazy because

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Speaker 2: Let me jumping here on the on the money piece

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Speaker 5: into this thing with Iran. You know, it's like economically,

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Speaker 5: we just we're not in shape to even be able

433
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Speaker 5: to finance the war. I mean, you know, it's just crazy.

434
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Speaker 5: It's really unbelievable, you know how we're in the situation

435
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Speaker 5: we're in as a nation, and I think of the

436
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Speaker 5: looking foods to the rest of the world, you know.

437
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Speaker 2: So yeah, hold up, there's thirty minutes south there, Michael.

438
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Speaker 2: How does bricks play into this? And for the folks

439
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 2: on the Lake train who've never heard of bricks, can

440
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Speaker 2: you explain what it is and what they're trying to achieve.

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Speaker 5: Bricks is an acronym that stands for Brazil, Russia, India, China,

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00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 5: and South Africa, of the five countries that basically formed

443
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 5: an alliance and basically they're you know, it's like when

444
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 5: America has the G seven or G twenty, it are

445
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:22,959
Speaker 5: certain alliances, and there's been about six other countries that

446
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 5: have joined the bricks, so it's not only five now,

447
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:31,199
Speaker 5: it's about eleven, and they probably have about another thirty

448
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 5: countries that want to join them. So it's basically they're

449
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 5: pushing back against what they call American hegemony in terms

450
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Speaker 5: of our dominance. You know, America has put sanctions on

451
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Speaker 5: other countries, in particular Cuba for the longest, and then

452
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Speaker 5: Russia and all the other countries in the Middle East

453
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Speaker 5: and around the world saying hey, we're not going to

454
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Speaker 5: put our money, you know, into the into the United

455
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 5: States market for you to just sanction us and do

456
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 5: what we want to do. You know, do what you

457
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 5: want to do to control it, because basically they have

458
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Speaker 5: weaponized you know, the Swiss system and the financial system

459
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Speaker 5: where if you don't do what America wants you to do,

460
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Speaker 5: then we're going to hold your money. So they're coming

461
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 5: up with their own currency. They have a thing now

462
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Speaker 5: where those five countries I was telling you about, Brazil, Russia, India, China,

463
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 5: South Africa. You know, they're going to take their currencies

464
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 5: and come up with a basket of their currencies which

465
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 5: is going to be like sixty percent of those five currencies,

466
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Speaker 5: and then the other forty percent is going to be gold.

467
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Speaker 5: So it's almost going to force the America to go

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Speaker 5: back to a gold standard or a big cooin standard,

469
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Speaker 5: or some other standard other than the dollar, because again

470
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Speaker 5: the dollar is really not even worth the money that

471
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Speaker 5: it's spread it on.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, but Michael, they can't go back to if

473
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Speaker 2: there's no gold in Fort Knox, what you know, what's

474
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 2: what's what's back in the US dollar?

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Speaker 5: Nothing? Nothing is back in the US dollars when you

476
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 5: when you hear the phase of the US government, you know,

477
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 5: I mean basically there's nothing tangible. That's what I'm saying.

478
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 5: It was gold and then like I said, it went

479
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 5: to from go to the petro dollar. That's not even

480
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 5: happening now, you know, officially, as it was about a

481
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 5: year or so ago. So that's why, you know, the

482
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 5: markets are fluctuating so erradically, and uh, you know, people

483
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 5: don't know what to do. I mean, like I said

484
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 5: to me, the problem in terms of the financial situation is,

485
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 5: like I said, a lot of it and doesn't get

486
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,479
Speaker 5: talked about. But even back two thousand eight, great financial

487
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 5: guys they talked about the derivative. You know, you hear

488
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 5: about now all these trading platforms they put up twenty

489
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 5: dollars and and let ai do the trading and all that.

490
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 5: You know, what are they invested in? Invested in the

491
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 5: derivatives and stuff. You know, So it's a whole new

492
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 5: world order that's being transitioned to them. Most people don't

493
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 5: even realize what's going on because it's so used the

494
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 5: habit of being you know, in the in the old

495
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 5: world system. When it's really transitions into a new world system.

496
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 5: It's going from a centralized system to a decentralized.

497
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Speaker 2: System sometimes just waking up at the bank.

498
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Speaker 5: Through going to be able to you know, accept and

499
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 5: market bitcoin and stuff like that. And so you have

500
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 5: bitcoin again where you know, you have the ets exchange

501
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 5: exchange trade of funds, which is like the paper contracts,

502
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 5: you know, is like with go you have the Saper contraction,

503
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 5: then you have.

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Speaker 2: The physical So right, we're gonna jump in here and

505
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Speaker 2: ask you something that's really close to everybody. Inflation. Do

506
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 2: you see inflation being tiped down? Or is all this

507
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 2: gonna spirit more inflation. And if it does, what do

508
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 2: we do as a people, as citizens? Do we if

509
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 2: we're making that big purchase, that car, that house, or

510
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 2: do we put that off or do we go for

511
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 2: it now? But because these items are going to be

512
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Speaker 2: more expensive, but already are I see the price is

513
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Speaker 2: going up. How do you see that, Michael?

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Speaker 5: I see that we got to go board to a

515
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 5: cooperative economics, man and depending on one another, you know,

516
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 5: going back to even growing your own food. And I know,

517
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 5: like with myself, you know, I mean I stay by myself,

518
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 5: and you know I rent, I don't rent, have a

519
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 5: condo stuff like that, but all my bills are going up.

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Speaker 5: So I'm paying like one hundred percent where you know

521
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 5: I'm living with somebody, you know, le's than one hundred percent.

522
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 5: You know, I go stay with one of my daughters

523
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 5: or something like that, I'm paying a third instead of

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00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 5: one hundred percent. So cooperat economics, I mean, there's always

525
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 5: been a thing about you know, recycling black dollars of

526
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 5: stuff like that man, And you know they say that

527
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 5: money doesn't stay in our community even six hours, where

528
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 5: in other communities, you know, it multiplies ten times and

529
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 5: fifteen times and twenty times. So we got to depend

530
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 5: on ourselves and we got to you know, come together

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Speaker 5: and collaborate collectively, you know, address this situation because I

532
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 5: think our individual freedoms are declining and deteriorated as I.

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Speaker 2: See it all right, twenty five away from the top

534
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 2: of a couple of break. But for the average person,

535
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 2: what what should they do it? Should if they've got

536
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 2: money saved, cash in hand, what would you what would

537
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 2: you suggest? Should they they've got some cash and they

538
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 2: take some money out put it down to the mattress

539
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 2: or should they invest in stocks or CDs? If they've

540
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 2: got some extra cash, you know, sitting around and they

541
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: want to protect it, what sort of way would you

542
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 2: advise him to invest? And I'll tell you what. I'll

543
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 2: need to respond to that when we get back, because

544
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 2: we're coming up on a break. Family, you got questions

545
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 2: about money, and this is the man you need to

546
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,479
Speaker 2: talk to. He's a financial analyst. His name is Michael Redmond.

547
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: You know how to reach him. Hit us up at

548
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 2: eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six and

549
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 2: we'll take your phone calls after we check the news.

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00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 2: That's next and Grand Rising family. If thanks just starting

551
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 2: your week with us, it's eighteen minutes away from the top.

552
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 2: They out, I guess his financial analyst Michael Redman. Michael

553
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 2: has showing us what to do with our money in

554
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 2: these uncertain times. Before we go back to it dollar,

555
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 2: let me just remind you we're going to keep on

556
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 2: talking about money with our next guest author Willie Jolly.

557
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 2: He's going to preview his lady's book Rich is Good,

558
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 2: but Wealthy Is Better and close out this morning joined

559
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 2: by chematologist Tony Browner, is going to unlock the significance

560
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 2: of this spring equinox. And later this week you're in

561
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 2: here from medical doctrine scientist doctor Velve Bowls, doctor also

562
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 2: the civil rights activist is a Baltimore civil rights activist.

563
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 2: Karled Snowan will be here Grill Baba LAMMBA out of

564
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 2: Emojia House in Washington, DC and the founder of the

565
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 2: Black Lawyers for Justice attorneym the Leaguership. I's all going

566
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Speaker 2: to be here this week. So if you're in Baltimore,

567
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 2: keep that radio Lock Team tight on ten ten WLB,

568
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 2: or if yeah in the DMV the Washington Metropolitan Era,

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Speaker 2: It's fourteen fifteen WL. All right, Michael, So you got

570
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: you got maybe one hundred and two hundred dollars sitting around,

571
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 2: or you've got some money in the bank and the

572
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 2: same as account. What do you do with that cash?

573
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 2: You let it stay there and grow, do you take

574
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 2: it out? Do you put it in CDs? To put

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Speaker 2: it in stocks? Because we're not talking a lot of

576
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 2: money there, just just you know, just maybe a couple

577
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 2: of hundred or just maybe one hundred dollars or so

578
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 2: you've got some extra income. What do you do with

579
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 2: that kind of money these days?

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Speaker 5: Well, the most prudent advice is, especially in the environment

581
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Speaker 5: or in is that you need emergency savings, you know,

582
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 5: threty six months of your you know, whatever your mufflet

583
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 5: bills are for you even invests, things come up. You know,

584
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 5: you have to have money liquid. But above and beyond that,

585
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 5: you know, I would say silver, you know, or like

586
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 5: I said, you invest some bitcoin via dollar cost averaging

587
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 5: because looking out and especially you know, well bitcoin is

588
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 5: more long term. So I would say silver in terms

589
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 5: of again the precious metal itself, the coin to the

590
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 5: bullyon not the paper contract. Silver you can buy for

591
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 5: like sixty dollars an ounce.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well, well let me interruew you said

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Speaker 2: you mentioned your silver quite a bit. How do you

594
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 2: buy sylvie? You go to the supermarket, you know, Walmart

595
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 2: and buy silver. You go to the bank. How do

596
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 2: you buy silver if you're going to go that round

597
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:45,760
Speaker 2: through pressure?

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00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 5: Precious metal dealers actually Costco and Stampa Club. Now you

599
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 5: can buy gold load and silver and stuff. So but

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00:34:55,719 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 5: usually precious metals dealers, Uh you can you know, go

601
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 5: on the internet and uh get down like people like

602
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 5: Peter Shift and you know, Mike Maloney and uh, you

603
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 5: know there's a bunch of precious metal dealers that you

604
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 5: can buy from it.

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Speaker 2: Like yeah, but but but let me interrupt you again

606
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 2: on those prices sort of inflated because of what's going

607
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 2: on with the war, rumors of war when when many

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00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 2: things stabilized, won't won't won't they ut when the price

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00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,280
Speaker 2: or the the value drop if you will.

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Speaker 5: Well, anytime you make an investment, it can go up,

611
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 5: but it can go down, so there's there's no guarantee,

612
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 5: you know. Like I said, the markets are very very volatile.

613
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 5: I mean people were talking about how volatile or the

614
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 5: bitcoin markets are, but as of recently even the gold

615
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 5: of silver markets have been very very valuable volatile, So uh,

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Speaker 5: you have to just look at look at it more

617
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 5: or less from the long term that you know, how

618
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 5: long are you trying to invest? You know, because again

619
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Speaker 5: are you talking about short term investment? You talking about

620
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 5: long term investment. Most people there's a long term investment.

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Speaker 5: They can do it through their for a one k

622
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 5: plans ira council stuff like that, and then then they

623
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Speaker 5: get tacked advantage of doing it that way too. But

624
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 5: if you're just doing it more or less short term,

625
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 5: I won't have the money liquid and accessible. Then you know,

626
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 5: you're not going to tie it up into a one

627
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 5: kre ira account. Because people lose their job, that's the

628
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 5: first thing they're going to do. They're going to go

629
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Speaker 5: and liquidate there or one kre ira because they got

630
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 5: you know, they got to pay bills and try to

631
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Speaker 5: you know, keep the wolves at bay in terms of

632
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Speaker 5: paying paying a monthly expensive. So a lot of people

633
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 5: have lost jobs. So you know it's almost now people

634
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 5: who are you know, looking at, hey, how can I

635
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 5: have two or three in jowns? Okay, if I may

636
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 5: have a job, I may have to have a side

637
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 5: hustle and make money, you know, with the job and

638
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 5: stuff like that. Or you know, I'm not married. You

639
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 5: know I need, you know, need to be working. My

640
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 5: wife needs to be working, my kids need to be working.

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Speaker 5: The dogs need to be working.

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Speaker 2: All right there, Michael thirteen away from the top. Justice,

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Speaker 2: he's joined us. He says, he's uh, he's in the

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Speaker 2: Mississippi of the of the West. La. Is that what

645
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Speaker 2: you are? Justice grind rising?

646
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Speaker 6: Oh?

647
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Speaker 7: Tap, No, the Mississippi of the West.

648
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Speaker 4: Is Las Vegas.

649
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Speaker 2: Okay.

650
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Speaker 7: I broke it down to you once before, and Jesse

651
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 7: Jackson was at the Second Baptist Church and they renamed

652
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 7: the miracle on Madison. But the brother asked, you asked

653
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 7: the question, Carl, who's back in the dollar? I thought

654
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 7: God was backing the dollar. This isn't God we trust?

655
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 7: Is that a fabrication? That's one point.

656
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:46,720
Speaker 2: Asked for Michael.

657
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Speaker 5: Is that a quicktion to me?

658
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 7: Well, Michael, I'm glad you bringing this valuable information to us.

659
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 7: But when you had mentioned I think you answered the

660
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 7: question when Carl asked her who was backing the dollar?

661
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 7: And I can assume that God was backing the dollar

662
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 7: because it says on the back of the dollar and

663
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 7: God we trust. So is that a fabrication?

664
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Speaker 5: I believe it is. Yes, I mean, you know, I

665
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 5: mean when he said God, you know, we're speaking about

666
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 5: spiritual you know being. I mean in terms of tangible

667
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 5: or physical situation. There's nothing back in the dollar basically

668
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 5: other than the supposed the confidence of the United States

669
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 5: government and the military. That's what's backing it. You know,

670
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 5: if you don't do what we say you're gonna do,

671
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,919
Speaker 5: we're gonna invade you, like like they did. I ran

672
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 5: and stuff like that.

673
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 7: But listen, listen to what Aliment said, Listen to what

674
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 7: Elijah Muhammad said. He said, do for self. Right, So

675
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 7: now if we pull our resources together, and that's what

676
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,280
Speaker 7: sister Soldier was talking about on so pulling our resources together,

677
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,720
Speaker 7: and that means money. So once we get our money together,

678
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 7: we can do what Mohammed could. Doth you want led

679
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 7: us to do? You remember that, you remember conductors down,

680
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 7: so they took us out, took him out too.

681
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 5: You're right, you're right, And yeah, I think you heard

682
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 5: me mentioning about cooperative economics that that's the only recourse

683
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 5: that I feel that we have that we haven't really

684
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 5: utilized to you know, the full benefit is.

685
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 7: I said now in my closing right, my wife has

686
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 7: a problem with that. She says, she don't want to

687
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 7: put her money in the bank. Okay, that's fine, but

688
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 7: here's the problem. But they keep putting their money in

689
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 7: the Korean hairstares.

690
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 4: And so Madam C. J.

691
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Speaker 7: Walking, this forgot all about huh what I mean, what's

692
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Speaker 7: happening here?

693
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Speaker 4: All right?

694
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Speaker 2: Justice? Go ahead, Michael, thanks Justice. Your response to that, Michael, Yeah.

695
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Speaker 5: No, I think I said cooperative economics. We talked about Kwanza,

696
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 5: you know, the seven principles and lights of Kwansa stuff.

697
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 5: We got to live that daily. We can't just do

698
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 5: that once a year. You know, like I said, the

699
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 5: money doesn't stay in the black community even you know

700
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 5: one time we're in other communities. It recycles ten times,

701
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 5: fifteen times and stuff like that. So you know, there's

702
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 5: a disconnect. I mean, Blacks basically collectively, you know, we

703
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 5: aren't poor, you know, we just don't you know, use

704
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 5: our money, you know, together and and maximize the like

705
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 5: other nationalities and stuff. Doing a lot of that has

706
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 5: to do with, you know, from a historical how we've

707
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 5: been deprived of slavery, and you know Jim Crow and

708
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 5: burning down Tulsa and even here in Atlanta, you know

709
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 5: Lake glan Neer. You know, they flooded black towns and

710
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 5: stuff like that. So there's a lot of reasons for

711
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Speaker 5: why things are the way where they are.

712
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Speaker 2: Yeah, let me just throw this into Michael nine away

713
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 2: from the top of the main reason is if we're

714
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 2: being programmed not to trust each other, you know that

715
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 2: they'll listen to they'll take advice from somebody else who

716
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 2: has a different name than take advice from you because

717
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 2: you're black. The feel that, you know, you're not proficient

718
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 2: enough to share information about finances because they control wall

719
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 2: streets and they know who I'm talking about, so they

720
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Speaker 2: go to them and for financial advice. How do we

721
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Speaker 2: break that bond? Though?

722
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Speaker 5: We have to break it, I said, I believe that

723
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 5: we have to do pend onself, you know, knownice hell.

724
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 5: You know it's hard because again, even when they talk

725
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 5: about the Willie Lynch situation, they said that was going

726
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 5: to last for over three hundred years. Yeah, I think

727
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 5: it's been about two fifty years. Stuff. So we just

728
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 5: have to break, you know, the negative programming, and I

729
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 5: think concentrate on what is the solution instead of what

730
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 5: is the problem? You know, we we we tend to

731
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 5: get you know, clouded or you know, stuck in terms

732
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 5: of the problems. We've got to come up with solutions.

733
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Speaker 5: And I mean there are other nationalities, Asians and you know,

734
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 5: that have overcome you know, discrimination, They haven't dealt with

735
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 5: the things that we've dealt with. But I'm saying they

736
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 5: have a collective situation. Even in Hispanics, they have a

737
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Speaker 5: very family oriented and collective situation, and we need to

738
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Speaker 5: do that more. I mean, you know, blacks killing blacks,

739
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Speaker 5: you know, and stuff like that. I mean, we talked

740
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Speaker 5: about you know, white cop, you know, shoots a black person.

741
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 5: You know, everybody's up arms, but what about you know,

742
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 5: the gang the gangs and you know, blacks killing black

743
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Speaker 5: you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let me jump in and ask you this the

745
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 2: come found and break. Can you explain the differences between

746
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 2: the Hispanics just got here last week and they're financially,

747
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 2: they've they've surpassed us numerically, they're more than us. That

748
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 2: might be part of the problem. But as you mentioned,

749
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 2: don't we don't seem to do business with each other?

750
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 2: They do? Are they forcing two businesses with each other

751
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 2: because of the language issue, and too many of us

752
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 2: think that we're on the illusion of inclusion. How do

753
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 2: you how do you assess all of that?

754
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, they'll they'll get a house, and there

755
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 5: may be two or three families that live in that house.

756
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 5: But five years or later, you know, one of those

757
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 5: families that's moving out and buying their own house. You know,

758
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 5: so again it's they're working together, you know, let's powering numbers,

759
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 5: as they say. You know, I think black folks have

760
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 5: been deprived so long that we want our freedom. You

761
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 5: know that that's what we want. We want freedom more

762
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 5: than you know. I think we get lost in terms

763
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Speaker 5: of going after freedom, but the system is denying us

764
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Speaker 5: of the freedom financially. You know how much treatom do

765
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,240
Speaker 5: you that when you lose a job? You know, I mean,

766
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 5: I remember, you know, coming up, mother will say, oh,

767
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 5: you need a job, you need a job? Really you

768
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 5: need an income? I mean saying you need a job,

769
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 5: saying you know, like I'm not intelligent enough to come

770
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Speaker 5: up with an idea. I wish secreate an income for myself.

771
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 5: You know, saying I need a job is not totally true. Yes,

772
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 5: I need the income which can be generated by a job.

773
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 5: But there's earned income, there's a portfolio income, there's passive income.

774
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 5: You know, there's all kind of you know, different ways

775
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 5: to make income. You know, and I'm speaking legally, you know,

776
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 5: of course, but you know our origented Oh, you need

777
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 5: a job. So I know, like with me when I

778
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 5: was working, you know, even at stock saying that, you know,

779
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 5: I'd be working a job and then you know, get

780
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 5: another job or two or three jobs, you know, trying

781
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 5: to make extra money, you know, so you can live

782
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 5: off one and then you have money to you know,

783
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 5: invest you know, the income to invest into another because

784
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 5: I mean, just trying to pay bills these days is very,

785
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:03,240
Speaker 5: very difficult, you know, trying to maintain family, rent, you know, gasoline,

786
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 5: you know, insurance. I mean, I can't believe, you know

787
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 5: what they challenge for sharp. I'm here in Atlanta, and

788
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 5: the insurance rates are just ridiculous. You know, I have

789
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 5: unassured motorists and liability. They were doing it all the month. Yeah,

790
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 5: I'm a good credit, good driving record, everything. You know,

791
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,919
Speaker 5: it should be like you see the advertising, fifty sixty

792
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 5: dollars a month. Man, it's so much.

793
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see that too, you know it saying to

794
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 2: interrupt you. I see that too on the inn. But

795
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 2: how much of that is real? And how much is

796
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 2: that is fake? You sign up and then they bombarde

797
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 2: you with your email, with with with all kinds of

798
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 2: different stuff. So how much of that can you? Can

799
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 2: you really assess that that's true? And how do we

800
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 2: deal with that? And I got another question for we call.

801
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 2: I check the traffic, but we talk. You talked about jobs.

802
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 2: We should look for an income instead of jobs. The

803
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 2: folks who've lost jobs and may lose their jobs and

804
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: loose jobs are going overseas. Donald Trump is promising to

805
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 2: those jobs will come back. Do you think he can

806
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 2: fulfill that promise? Do you think those jobs will come

807
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 2: back to America? I want to get your thoughts when

808
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 2: we get back. Family, you too can join this conversation.

809
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 2: You got a question about money, you reach out to

810
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 2: I guess his name is Michael Redland. You can reach

811
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 2: him at eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight

812
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 2: seventy six, and we'll take your phone calls. As were

813
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 2: check the trafficking out different cities. Next the jobs, these

814
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 2: jobs that Donald Trump's is coming back at these jobs

815
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 2: coming back, and he says, we get rid of the

816
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 2: undocumented immigrants, the jobs will come back because they've got

817
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 2: all the black jobs. Address those for us if you will.

818
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 5: I don't think there's jobs coming back, Carl. And you

819
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 5: look at robotics, you look at artificial intelligence, the jobs

820
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 5: that will be coming in the future. Most people today

821
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 5: only be qualified to handle those jobs. You know. But

822
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 5: from a realistic standpoint, you know jobs of old you know,

823
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 5: working for a general mob or you know, stuff like that. No,

824
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 5: those jobs are coming back. That's a society in my estimation,

825
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 5: you know. I mean you look at cars now, you

826
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,720
Speaker 5: know they're going to drive less cars, okay, you know robust,

827
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:20,959
Speaker 5: I mean eventually you know they they won't they won't

828
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 5: have people manning like Donalds and the fast foods. You know,

829
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 5: you'll have robuts basically dropping the fries and lipping the

830
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 5: burgers and stuff like that. So there'll be new jobs

831
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 5: that be entering the market. But the people that you know,

832
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 5: qualify for the jobs now won't be able to get

833
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 5: those high tech jobs and stuff like that because you'll

834
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 5: have to be you know, highly trained, highly skilled to

835
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 5: even get those jobs. So no, it's a disconnect, it's

836
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 5: a facide saying we're going to bring the jobs back.

837
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 5: Plus it's like, okay, even with the hourly wage, America

838
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 5: can't compete in terms of you know, even at seven

839
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 5: dollars let's stay here in Georgia seven twenty five an hour. Well,

840
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 5: you go overseas and they may make seven dollars a

841
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 5: day or seven dollars a week.

842
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 4: We can't compete.

843
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 5: And that's that's where you know, the rep comes in,

844
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 5: because everything's competitive from a global standpoint, right now?

845
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 2: All right, eight hundred and four or five zero seventy

846
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 2: eight seventy six. Brother Rock Ones checking in from New York,

847
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 2: has a question for his online too, grand rising Brother

848
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 2: Rock Money, you're on with Michael Redmond.

849
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, good morning, brothers. I listened to your show just

850
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 8: about every day or not not all of your show,

851
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 8: but I chime in. I really get upset when I

852
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 8: keep hearing people saying the same thing over and over

853
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 8: in reference to how we're gonna get out of this.

854
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 8: The way we can get out of this is, like

855
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 8: the brother said earlier, come together, pull our money together,

856
00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 8: and we have to form our own word. Could I

857
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 8: use government with then with within this government. The Europeans

858
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 8: are never going to let us get what we need

859
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 8: to take care of ourselves, So we need to do

860
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 8: that for ourselfs. And we could do that for chump change.

861
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 8: We could do that for pennies a day. We could,

862
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 8: we could we could raise onmost two billion dollars a

863
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 8: year for just pennies a day if everybody came together

864
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 8: and contributed, and we wouldn't even feel it. That's my comment.

865
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,959
Speaker 8: I get sick and tired of hearing us talk about

866
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 8: how we're gonna get out of something right now. If

867
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 8: I if I asked, y'all brothers, y'all don't even know me.

868
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 8: But if I said, look, I got an idea, give

869
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 8: me a dollar a week, y'all y'a always said, Now,

870
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 8: I don't know you. I ain't trusting you with my money.

871
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:59,240
Speaker 8: That's the mentality we have, So ping your own government.

872
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 4: Does what'd you say?

873
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 5: We definitely have to overcome the trust that you you know,

874
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 5: and get to the solution instead of continuing to deal

875
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 5: with the problem and stuff.

876
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 8: I agree, thank you, all right, So when we can

877
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:16,280
Speaker 8: come together.

878
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 4: I got away.

879
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 8: I'm not going to talk about it on the air

880
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 8: because I think that's where we make a lot of

881
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 8: mistakes behind closed doors. I can give you all my solution.

882
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,919
Speaker 8: Take it to leave it. I don't have to get

883
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 8: a dime out of it. I'm not looking for no

884
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 8: money out of it. I just wanted to work for us,

885
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 8: and if we can make that happen, we're gonna be

886
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 8: in good shape.

887
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 2: Well, brother rock Man, we'll text you to me, or

888
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 2: just send it to me to my email. You know,

889
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 2: if you have a solution, it's best to share it

890
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 2: with everybody. It doesn't work if you're the only one

891
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,280
Speaker 2: who knows the information. You know, that's what the information

892
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 2: is about. If you want to help in the black community,

893
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 2: share share it with us. Don't don't worry about you know,

894
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 2: people stealing there. I don't know what the concern is.

895
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 8: No, but we'd we're dealing with Europeans. Everything that we do,

896
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 8: they come, they're going to kund of count it. They're

897
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 8: gonna come up with a way to keep it from happening.

898
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 8: We're seeing it happen right in front of my eyes.

899
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 8: Everything we try to do to get out of the

900
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 8: condition were in, they come up with, especially with the

901
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 8: government you've got.

902
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 2: Now, and there's no, no, no discause that's that's agreed to.

903
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 2: But but here's a here's a better question from you.

904
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 2: I'm Michael too. Why why us they seem to let

905
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 2: the other people pass by the latinas they they're they're

906
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,919
Speaker 2: they're their economy is just blowing up. You know, they've

907
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 2: they've on supermarket change, that everything that that's that it's

908
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 2: out that they've done. But we've been here longer being

909
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 2: unable to do that. So my question to both of you,

910
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,399
Speaker 2: why why us? Why they try to keep us down?

911
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 8: By the rockman?

912
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 2: You brought it up, so you go first, Yes, you're

913
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 2: talking to may not Yeah, yeah, you first, and then

914
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 2: I'll get Michael's version.

915
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 8: I think that's happened to us because they got to

916
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 8: beat with us anyway. And I think they know that

917
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 8: they was they are us and from the beginning and

918
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 8: when they got stuck where they got stuck for them

919
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,839
Speaker 8: thousands of years and they just transformed into what they

920
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 8: are now when they it's something in them that knows

921
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,760
Speaker 8: you understand that they got to pay us back, you understand,

922
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 8: because they can't be like us again. That's why when

923
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 8: they got the chance, they came to the homeland and

924
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 8: took us and did what we did, what they did,

925
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 8: what they did to us. That's what I think, and

926
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 8: I don't think that they're ever ever going to treat

927
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 8: us or let us be what we're supposed to be.

928
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 8: They look at the history every time we build the nation,

929
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 8: what did they come and thro they destroyed it? In America.

930
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,320
Speaker 8: We want to be away from them with they do.

931
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 8: They said, no, you're still doing good. We ain't asking

932
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 8: them for nothing. What they do, they come in, they

933
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 8: drop bombs or enough. So they're number going to be

934
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 8: our friends to the point where we can actually depend

935
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 8: on them to take care of us.

936
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 7: And that's what we do.

937
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 8: Everything we get, we depend on the United States Government

938
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 8: to provide us.

939
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 2: All Right, what your thought we got your brother right man? Now,

940
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 2: thank you for you called Michael your thoughts because what

941
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 2: he says it's got some validity to it. We we

942
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,240
Speaker 2: we you know, we talk about Black Wall Street and Rosemound,

943
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 2: all these different places, all the things that we built. Uh,

944
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 2: we've seen them, you know, if they've they've got involved

945
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 2: in and try to annihilate our business or stifle our businesses.

946
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 2: And the question is why why use you know, to

947
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 2: help the other groups, the Koreans, the Jampanese, the Latinos.

948
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 2: But us, they seem they seem seem we got something

949
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 2: for us. Why And that's my question.

950
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 5: I think fear, you know, I mean coming up, you know,

951
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 5: like we did in the seventies and stuff, and listening

952
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 5: to the Francis crest Wells and stuff like that. I think,

953
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 5: you know, they have an interiority conflict that they try

954
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 5: to put on the up. And they've done a pretty

955
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 5: good job in terms of brainwashing us and getting us

956
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 5: to do see things their way. But like I said,

957
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 5: we have to come up with a solution. I mean,

958
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 5: even you know, like a Muslims Elijah Muhamman and stuff.

959
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 5: I mean, there have been movements that have been able

960
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 5: to counter you know, the programming and stuff, but I

961
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 5: mean it hasn't gone you know, universal throughout you know,

962
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 5: all black black people, because I mean, you know, even

963
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 5: like you know, Black Americans versus somebody you know from

964
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 5: from another country and stuff that's maybe black. You know, again,

965
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:58,919
Speaker 5: we're looked at even amongst ourselves as sometimes being in theory,

966
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 5: like I said, the gang problem and you know, the

967
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 5: black on black I mean, that doesn't get highlighted in

968
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 5: terms of us being you know, our own problem.

969
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 4: You know.

970
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 5: It's like we can look outside and say, well, we

971
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,839
Speaker 5: got problems and they're doing this to it. What are

972
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 5: we doing to ourselves? You know? So it's gotta be

973
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 5: but you.

974
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 2: Know what you know, I mean, let me know upe

975
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 2: you again, because you know that conversation, somebody tweetd we

976
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 2: were always blaming the problem is us? They say, the

977
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 2: problem is us. We're always blaming the man, always the man.

978
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,399
Speaker 2: We have to take some self responsibility. You have thoughts

979
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 2: about that, yes, Michael, Okay.

980
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 5: You know I'm saying we have a responsibility to make

981
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 5: things better. Nobody's gonna change change for us, you know.

982
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 5: So if we don't come up with the grassroots and

983
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 5: internal situation make things better and to change things, and

984
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 5: nothing's gonna change, it's gonna continue to deteriorate. That's by asformation,

985
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 5: you know. And yeah, I mean we fought for the

986
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 5: civil rights and everyone else seems to be benefited from

987
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 5: it even more so than we are, you know. But

988
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 5: I mean with affirmative action and DEI and everything being

989
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 5: taken away, man, where you know, it's almost like things

990
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 5: have digressed to you know, back in the sixties and seventies.

991
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 2: You know, right, let me throw this in here as

992
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 2: you got a treet from brother. Brother says. He says,

993
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 2: I work two full time jobs and gets full social Security.

994
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 2: So the downside is taxes and no write offs. So

995
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 2: the government is getting over ten thousand dollars in taxes.

996
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 2: And he says, I do believe Social Security is going

997
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 2: to pay for the war. That's a question for you.

998
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 2: Social Security you think is going to go out go

999
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 2: go by the sideway? He thinks soci Security is going

1000
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:48,879
Speaker 2: to pay for the war?

1001
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 5: Pay for the war?

1002
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, the war're around? What's going on right now?

1003
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 4: No?

1004
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 5: I mean social Security? And they's they in five years,

1005
00:56:58,040 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 5: so security you won't even be around.

1006
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 3: You know.

1007
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 5: Again, who's going to pay for the war? That's a

1008
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,959
Speaker 5: good question because, like I said, National Definite dem says,

1009
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 5: what thirty eight thirty nine trillion dollars? And like I said,

1010
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 5: things are going up just depending almost two billion dollars

1011
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 5: a day at this war. So who's gonna pay for it?

1012
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 5: I mean, ultimately the tax payers are going to pay

1013
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 5: for it. Can we afford to pay for it? We

1014
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 5: can't even afford the national debt. You know, or the

1015
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 5: interest on the national debt that's accumulating faster now. So

1016
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 5: there's such a disconnect, and that's what I'm saying. They're

1017
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 5: saying things are going to get better. But you know,

1018
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 5: like I said, there's a sale of them slipping between

1019
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 5: the limp and the cup. I mean saying, is one

1020
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 5: thing doing it? You know, execution and implementation up, they're

1021
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 5: totally different. And that's how I.

1022
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 2: Thought that, Michael, because we got to step aside and

1023
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 2: bringing doctor Willie Jolly our next guest. But before we

1024
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 2: let you go, though, did you have an email address

1025
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 2: of boks come follow you if they want more information

1026
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 2: about what to do with their money these these days.

1027
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 5: Yes, they can get me at U M. M. Redmond

1028
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 5: two two three at aol dot com.

1029
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 2: You want to do that again? Real slow?

1030
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, M. Redmond R E D M O N D

1031
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 5: two two three at aol dot com.

1032
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 2: All right, thanks, Michael, thanks for the information you share.

1033
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 2: You hang up on me, Yeah, go ahead, brother.

1034
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:32,439
Speaker 8: Rockman, Yeah, Brother Mark kanna know me. Well, he came

1035
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 8: up on the my wing. I talked to him all

1036
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 8: the time.

1037
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 9: So he knows how to reach me.

1038
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, we'll make that connect and have him

1039
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 2: passed it on to the station. Thank you, brother Rock.

1040
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 4: Many peace, all right, peace, all right.

1041
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 2: Thanks Michael. Fourteen Other topic I next, guess I mentioned

1042
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 2: this here, doctor Willie Jolly. Grand rise in, doctor Willie Jolly,

1043
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 2: welcome to the program.

1044
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 4: Well, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning.

1045
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 4: I have only just a minute, only sixty seconds in

1046
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 4: it forced upun me can't refuse it. I didn't think it,

1047
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 4: I didn't choose it, but it's up to me to

1048
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 4: use it. I must suffer if I lose it. Give

1049
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 4: a counterfi abuse It just a tiny little minute, but

1050
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 4: our eternity are wrapped up in it. So I'm grateful

1051
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 4: for this minute, this moment, this opportunity be on with

1052
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 4: you and your listeners. How are you today, Carl.

1053
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 2: Hey, thank you. Kevin Any putting to some music, Doctor

1054
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 2: Willie Jolly, are you rhyming?

1055
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 3: Real?

1056
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 2: Good there, man man.

1057
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 4: That's been his opening stagents greeting, and you know, even length.

1058
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,439
Speaker 4: But it is one of my long term friends. Long

1059
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 4: greetings to you and Kevin and to everybody who's listening

1060
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 4: on w L.

1061
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Willie, doctor Willie Jolly man, pardon me, Carl, I

1062
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 1: just want to do an introduction.

1063
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 3: The author of many, many life changing books. It only

1064
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 3: takes a minute to change your.

1065
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: Life or set back as a setup or come back,

1066
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:00,959
Speaker 1: I think people stole that one from you and turn

1067
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: setbacks into green bags. A set an attitude of excellence,

1068
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 1: make love, make money, make it last.

1069
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 3: And now your brand new book, let's call and share

1070
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 3: that with you.

1071
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that brand new book is this is what

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Speaker 2: we're going to preview. Rich is good, but wealthy is better.

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Speaker 2: How'd you cope with that slogan? That title? Doctor Willie

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Speaker 2: Jolly Well.

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Speaker 4: I am honored that. For the last twenty years, I've

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Speaker 4: been the host of The Willie Jolly Wealthy Way Show

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Speaker 4: on Serious XM. And over those twenty years, I've had

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Speaker 4: the opportunity to interview some of the greatest wealth creators

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Speaker 4: of our time, people like Bill Marriott and David Rubinstein

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01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 4: and David Stewart. The wealthy is Black man in America,

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01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 4: Doctor Kathy Hughes, Damon john I've had to honor it.

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01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 4: Just Bob Johnson, Sheila John's just one after another. And

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Speaker 4: I thought I knew what wealth was, Caul, But one day,

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01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 4: about four or five years ago, the light bulb went

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01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 4: off above my head, and I finally realized, oh my goodness,

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Speaker 4: I was wrong. What I thought was wealthy was wrong.

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01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 4: And I said, I said, well, maybe I'm the only

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Speaker 4: one who didn't get the memo. Maybe I'm the only one.

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Speaker 4: So I went around the country as I'm giving my

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01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 4: speeches to companies and corporations and so forth, and I

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01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 4: asked people. I said, hey, to you folks, what's rich?

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Speaker 4: And the number one answer was always a million dollars.

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Speaker 4: You got a million dollars, you're rich. Okay, If a

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01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 4: million dollars is rich, then what's wealthy? And they look

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01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 4: up in the air there they think for a minute,

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01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,439
Speaker 4: they pondered, and they say, I guess there's two million,

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Speaker 4: three million, five million, a billion. I said, okay, so

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Speaker 4: they don't know.

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Speaker 2: Either, and so right and hold, I thought, right there, Willy,

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Speaker 2: we were got to step aside for a few moments,

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Speaker 2: and I'll let you finish your story when you come back.

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Speaker 2: Seventeen minutes saff In Tavey family, I guess it's out

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Speaker 2: to Willie. Jolly's an author, motivational speaker as well. You

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Speaker 2: want to speak to him this morning. Reach out to

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Speaker 2: us at eight hundred four five zero, seventy eight seventy six.

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Speaker 2: We'll take your phone calls and grind rising family. I

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Speaker 2: thanks you for starting your week with us on this

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Speaker 2: Monday morning. Twenty three minutes after the top they out.

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Speaker 2: I guess he's an author, best selling author, doctor Willie Jolly.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about his latest book right now. Rich is good,

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01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 2: Wealthy is better. Cover of the book is in Greed.

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Speaker 2: Of course, before he left, he was telling us how

1113
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 2: he's going around and asking folks what is rich and

1114
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 2: explaining and you know, just reporting on what they what

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Speaker 2: they said hit. Their response is so, doctor Willie Joll,

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01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 2: I we pick it up from there.

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Speaker 4: All right, thank you. So, so what I learned was

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Speaker 4: most people, like myself, didn't know the difference between being

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Speaker 4: rich and wealthy. We thought almost everybody I thought the

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Speaker 4: same way that a rich as a pony and or

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Speaker 4: wealthy as a horse. But what I learned from these

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Speaker 4: interviews with the billionaire is that rich and wealthy are

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Speaker 4: two separate species. And so it blew my mind and

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Speaker 4: that's when I started writing the book. So, to ask

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Speaker 4: you a question, what made me write this book was

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01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 4: the lessons I learned from these billionaires on how to

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Speaker 4: create wealth, and you can't hurt wealth if you don't

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Speaker 4: know what it is. Because look, if I gave everybody

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Speaker 4: a brother call, if I gave you a baseball told

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01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 4: you to hit a wall close to you, could you

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01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 4: hit it? Of course you could hit it. Well, if

1132
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 4: I gave you that same baseball and said, now hit

1133
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 4: it again, Oh, before you do it this time, though,

1134
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna put a blindfold around your eyes and I'm

1135
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 4: gonna turn you around and around to you don't know

1136
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 4: which direction you're facing. Can it's still hit it with

1137
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 4: these No, you can't hit what you can't see, and

1138
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 4: you cannot hit what you don't know. So that is

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01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 4: why we have to help people to understand the difference

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Speaker 4: between being rich and wealthy. And that's why I wrote

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Speaker 4: this book.

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Speaker 2: Is it being rich and wealthy? Is it all about money?

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Speaker 2: Or is there other sources as well?

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Speaker 4: Oh no, no, no, no, no no no. But when

1145
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 4: you think, look, there are five types of wealth, and

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Speaker 4: when you ask people about wealth, it's the first thing

1147
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 4: they think about is money. Okay, so that's one of

1148
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 4: those types of wealth. But the most important type of

1149
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 4: wealth is health. If you're not healthy, what good is

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01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,479
Speaker 4: all the money. It is reported that Steve Jobs said

1151
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 4: on his deskbed, if I had more time, I give

1152
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 4: all the money away. So health is the most important.

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Speaker 4: Then the third type of wealth is relationship wealth. It's

1154
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 4: not just where you're going, but who's going with you

1155
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 4: and who's going to be with you at the end.

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Speaker 4: The fourth type of wealth is reputational wealth. What do

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01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 4: people say about you that can open doors and create opportunities?

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Speaker 4: And number five is intellectual capital wealth. What do you know?

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01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 4: What do you know that people are willing to send

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Speaker 4: you and give you money in exchange for it? So

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Speaker 4: it's not just money, but money is important. Okay, let's

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01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 4: make it clear. Money is important, and we need to

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01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 4: say that. Money to your bills, money to take care

1164
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 4: of your children, money for health care, money for housing.

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Speaker 4: It's important, so we must be mindful of that. So

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Speaker 4: riches good, wealthy is better. Is this book and it's transformational.

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01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 4: I wish I'd known this information thirty years ago because

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01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 4: it would have made my life and my family's life better.

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01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 4: But I'm glad I know it now. You know? They say, well,

1170
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 4: or when is the best time to plant a tree?

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01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 4: Plan a speed for a tree that takes eighty years

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01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 4: to grow well, eighty years ago. When's the second best? Now? Okay,

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01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 4: right now today. So this book, I'm encouraging people to

1174
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 4: go to Rich's Goodwealthy is Better dot com, riches Goodwealthy

1175
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 4: is Better dot com, get some of the free chapters,

1176
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 4: and then get the book. The book will be transformational.

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Speaker 4: Now you ask, everybody wants to know what's the difference. Okay,

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Speaker 4: what's the difference. I'm gonna tell you what the difference

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Speaker 4: is between being rich and being wealthy.

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Speaker 10: Here is rich.

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Speaker 4: Is money you earn from what you do during a

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Speaker 4: day or whatever you work, you give as you get

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01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 4: some sort of service or product or whatever, and you

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01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 4: earn money. Wealthy is money you generate at night while

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Speaker 4: you sleep. Let me say it again, rich is good.

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01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 4: Rich is Rich is money you earn by what you

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Speaker 4: do typically during the day, and wealthy is money you

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Speaker 4: generate at night while you sleep, by what you own.

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Speaker 2: That's it, all, right, share, sure, how we do that?

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Speaker 2: That's that second one we know about working, But how

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01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 2: do we you know other than real estate? Is there

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Speaker 2: an the oald way we can make money?

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Speaker 4: And in the book, I've got eight stremes of income

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Speaker 4: that you can be using eight ways that you can

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Speaker 4: make money. And here's the same called listen. Can't sleep anybody.

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Speaker 4: Anybody who earns income can create wealth. I tell stories

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Speaker 4: in the book about people who were not high income earners,

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Speaker 4: like Mary Ellen Pleasant, a domestic worker in the nineteen

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Speaker 4: hundreds who cleaned people's homes. She never made more than

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Speaker 4: six thousand dollars a year, but she lived below her means.

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Speaker 4: She invested the difference, and when she died she had

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Speaker 4: a net worth of two point seven million dollars. We

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01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 4: got story after story after the story of people who

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01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 4: didn't make a lot of money, but they understood the

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Speaker 4: importance of ownership. And you can own stocks, you can

1206
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 4: own real estates, you can own crypto, you can own

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Speaker 4: intellectual property that you created. You can own currencies. You

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01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 4: can own rare wines or stamps or coins. There are

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Speaker 4: numerous ways to have ownership most people don't know about.

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Speaker 4: And I put the whole child in the books on

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01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 4: those days, it's amazing. It's mind bogglings. Now let me

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Speaker 4: take you a couple of more things very important. The

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01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 4: book has two focus areas. Number one is to help

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01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 4: people who want to be wealthy, who don't know how

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01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 4: to get there, to get there by the lessons I

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01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 4: learned from these people who taught me. I'm just teaching

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Speaker 4: what I've been taught. But the second reason this book

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01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 4: is so powerful is all the people. Listen, car and listen, Kevin.

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01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:29,719
Speaker 4: This is huge. All the people who have worked hard

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Speaker 4: all their lives. They scraped, they sacrificed, they scrimpt to

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01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 4: create and saves to create a nest egg. But they're

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01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 4: concerned that their children will not take care of it

1223
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 4: and will squander it. Or as one man, after he

1224
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 4: read the book, he came back and bought ten books.

1225
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 4: He said, I'm buying one for every child, every grandchild,

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Speaker 4: because my bagest greatest fear, my greatest fear is my

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Speaker 4: children were not treat my money like I treated it,

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Speaker 4: and they're going to go through in months. Well, it

1229
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 4: took me decades and decades and decades to grow. No,

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01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 4: they're not gonna squander my money. They got to read

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01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 4: this book before I put them in my will. Wow,

1232
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:21,640
Speaker 4: for what happens. We all know what happens in our community.

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Speaker 11: People.

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Speaker 4: Big Mama left everybody a house and some money, and

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01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 4: they they went through the money and then they fought

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01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 4: over the house, and one of them said, give me

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01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 4: my part of the house. Sell the house for my part.

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01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:38,719
Speaker 4: I want my part. That they have to sell that house,

1239
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 4: and everybody gets their little piece. The money goes away,

1240
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:45,759
Speaker 4: the asset is no longer there, and everybody again starts

1241
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 4: as zero.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, generation generation no, generational.

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Speaker 4: No, this book is going to change that, Doctor Paru.

1244
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be with doctor Peruke and for Forever Living

1245
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 4: on uh next Saturday. Next Saturday, I'm gonna be there

1246
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 4: for a book event and everybody need to come. What

1247
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 4: time is to come?

1248
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 3: What time is that?

1249
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 4: That event is next Saturday. It's the twenty Uh, it's

1250
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 4: the twenty eighth, and it's going to be starting at

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Speaker 4: from one to three.

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Speaker 3: And that sounds real good, right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So we're speaking with doctor Willie Johny Kevin Langford here,

1255
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 1: and we go a long way back, and we won't

1256
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 1: talk about we go way back. We go way back

1257
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 1: talking about this singing career, hanging out at UH and

1258
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 1: mister Henry's and you won all of those awards for

1259
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 1: singing and and UH and now you're doing good for

1260
01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 1: yourself and so UH you were talking about you were

1261
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 1: talking about those five pillars of wealth, the money health

1262
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:57,639
Speaker 1: relationship were reputational and intellectual capital. Can you talk about

1263
01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 1: the mindset of wealth? You know, I think that's a

1264
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 1: whole different Linevin.

1265
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 4: Let me tell you there are five money mindset that

1266
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 4: we see in America and you and you can check

1267
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 4: out which one it is. Okay, five money mindset. So

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01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 4: the five money mindsets are. The lowest level mindset is

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01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:20,599
Speaker 4: the one day mindset. That's the guy you see at

1270
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 4: the corner every day, every day, every day with a

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01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 4: cardboard box, and give me enough money for today. He

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01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 4: repeats that every day. Then the next mindset is the

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01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 4: thirty day mindset. People who live or fixed income, whether

1274
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 4: it's welfare, social Security, or some sort of retirement, and

1275
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:41,360
Speaker 4: they are thinking every month, month to months. Then you

1276
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 4: get the one year mindset, people who think a year,

1277
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 4: did I get a cost of living raise this year?

1278
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 4: Did I make more money this year than last year?

1279
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:52,799
Speaker 4: Then you get the rich mindset. That's typically ten year mindset,

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01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 4: which is typically seen with athletes and entertainers. A baseball

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Speaker 4: player will get a ten year contract to play baseball,

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Speaker 4: one hundred million dollars for ten years. He's balling. He

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Speaker 4: got five rolls, Royces, three Mercedes, a plane, eight houses,

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Speaker 4: and he's balling. But after ten years, if his contract

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Speaker 4: is not renewed, or he gets hurt and he does

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Speaker 4: not modify his lifestyle, he gonna be broke. That is

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Speaker 4: why seventy percent of professional athletes have broke five years

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Speaker 4: after retirement, because they don't modify their lifestyle or they

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Speaker 4: don't invest that money wisely. But then you get the

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Speaker 4: rich of the wealthy mindset, which is generation, the generation,

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Speaker 4: the generation. The Bible says a good man leads an

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Speaker 4: inheritance for his children's children's great grandchildren. And so in

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Speaker 4: the book, I tell stories of real generational wealth, not

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Speaker 4: just one or two generations, five generations and how to

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Speaker 4: get there. And so I'm encouraging people getting to go

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Speaker 4: to Riches's good. Wealthy is better check it out for yourself.

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Speaker 4: By the way, I'm gonna be at elite elite restaurants

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Speaker 4: with doctor Baruch our next Saturday, Elight Restaurant with Doctor

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Speaker 4: Baruch and want everybody to come out is from one

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Speaker 4: to three. This is gonna be life changing event. Every

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Speaker 4: I was did an event yesterday Saturday. People lined up

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Speaker 4: all the way down the hall. They were buying seven

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Speaker 4: eight copies. It was amazing. People are going nuts over

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01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 4: this book. Why because it's not only gonna change your life,

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Speaker 4: but it's gonna change your children's lives. So let me

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Speaker 4: tell you something, Carlin and Kevin, I don't know how

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01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 4: many children you got, but this about everybody I've talked,

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01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 4: there as more than one child. Say it's the same

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01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 4: thing about this book. They got one child who's not

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Speaker 4: good with money and who comes up to them every

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Speaker 4: month or every other month, Hey, hey, can you help

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Speaker 4: me with my rent? Can you help me with my

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01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 4: car notes? I'm a little short this month. One child

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Speaker 4: who's just not good with money. This book is the

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Speaker 4: antidote to that. This is the answer for that book.

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Speaker 1: Did you write a song? Did you write us on

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Speaker 1: to go with that? Doctor Willie? Did you write us

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01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 1: on that goes with Did you write a song that

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01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 1: goes with this book title?

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Speaker 4: I will work on that. I've worked on that. You

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01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 4: right about that?

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Speaker 3: So are you singing that life this Saturday?

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Speaker 4: Next to sing a song? I might have to sing

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Speaker 4: a song at lee life. You're right? You yeah, I

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01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 4: used to do that. You know I wanted to wear

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Speaker 4: me five times in a row. Best jazz singer, best entertainer.

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Speaker 12: But when I got hold of it.

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Speaker 4: But let me tell you, when I got hold of

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Speaker 4: this and they got hold of me, everything changed. But

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Speaker 4: most people you know today think of me as a speaker.

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Speaker 4: Most many don't know I was a singer. And what's

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Speaker 4: changed my life, Kevin is The story is simple. I

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Speaker 4: was doing one of the top nightclub singers in DC.

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Speaker 4: Jingle singer, all.

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Speaker 7: Of that, but what not.

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Speaker 4: I went in the nightclub and they told me we

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Speaker 4: got some new that's going around the country that's filling

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Speaker 4: up nightclubs and we're gonna give it a shot for

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Speaker 4: a month. It's cheap it in live entertainment, this thing

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Speaker 4: called a karaoke machine.

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Speaker 12: I said, O, what yeah?

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Speaker 4: And that was It was devastating because I had worked

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Speaker 4: so hard to build my reputation. This was at top

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Speaker 4: of the food chain. What am I going to do now?

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Speaker 4: I can't. I can't go back to that little dime

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Speaker 4: where I started that. I can't. I can't afford that now.

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Speaker 4: And I took a job while I was trying to

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Speaker 4: figure out what I was going to do with the

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Speaker 4: DC public school system as a drug prevention coordinator, and

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Speaker 4: it was during that year I started giving speeches as

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Speaker 4: part of my job, and I remember it never looked back.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember, but I remember the

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Speaker 1: day you said to me, I'm going to go on

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Speaker 1: tour with less brown and uh, and then you've been

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Speaker 1: continually climbing ever since.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations, it's been amazing.

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Speaker 4: It's been amazing.

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Speaker 13: Uh.

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Speaker 4: This is my seventh book. I've been named one of

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Speaker 4: the top five speakers in the world by Toastmasses. I've

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Speaker 4: been inducted in the Speaker Hall of Fame. I recently

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Speaker 4: got the highest award in the speaking industry, the Cabot Award,

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Speaker 4: which is like the Heisman. UNLESS was with me the

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Speaker 4: night I got it. I'm amazed. But I give God

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Speaker 4: the glory, you know, I give God the glory. And

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Speaker 4: two things. You work hard, you work smart, and you

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Speaker 4: trust God. And that's what I've done. Work hard, work smart,

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Speaker 4: and well trust God. And that's what I want to

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Speaker 4: help other people do. Now. I want to help other

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Speaker 4: people win. I want them to win in their finances

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Speaker 4: and their families and their relationships. So that's when we

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Speaker 4: were writing books that help you win in every area

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Speaker 4: of your life. And I'm just grateful man. I'm just grateful,

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Speaker 4: and I want to help more people to get going

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Speaker 4: and growing and to win and help their children to win.

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Speaker 4: For many people like myself concerned about our children. We're

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Speaker 4: concerned about our children.

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Speaker 3: And you're signing the book ATLI right.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to be signing the book at Elite. You

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Speaker 4: better come, bring, bring Lottie, Dottie and everything. And I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna talk about this book. I'm not just doing a

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Speaker 4: book signing. This is a book event. I'm going to

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Speaker 4: tell you about the prison. This is a powerful book.

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Speaker 4: Oh my goodness. Let me tell you one more thing,

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Speaker 4: Kevin and call. This book did not come from me.

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Speaker 4: It came through me. This is the lessons I have

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Speaker 4: learned from billionaires, and I'm teaching others what I have learned.

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Speaker 4: It is not something I created. I'm giving life lessons

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Speaker 4: from what I have learned. And it's powerful.

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Speaker 3: That's a radio. That's a radiant source, right, radiant sorcery.

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Speaker 2: Yes, fella's hang on it.

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Speaker 4: Sec.

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Speaker 2: We got to step aside and get caught up with

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Speaker 2: the ladies news. Twenty four minutes away from the toffee hour.

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Speaker 2: I guess it's doctor Willie Johny doctor he's a motivational

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Speaker 2: speacause you heard, is an author, a best selling author,

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Speaker 2: and it's the ladiest book. It is called Riches Good

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Speaker 2: Wealthy is Better, and he tells you there are five

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Speaker 2: types of wealth. He'll break them down for us when

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Speaker 2: you get back. If you got questions, reach out to

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Speaker 2: us at eight hundred and four or five zero seventy

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Speaker 2: eight seventy six and we'll take your phone calls at

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Speaker 2: which I can News that's next and Grand Rising family.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for starting your week with us. Our guest is

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Speaker 2: doctor Willie Johny is an author and motivational speaker and

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Speaker 2: is Ladies. Work is called rich is Good Wealth, He's Better.

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Speaker 2: Ifore we go back to you, let me just remind

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Speaker 2: you come up later this morning, we speak with chemutologist

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01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 2: brother Tony Browner and from Rain of the Week. Some

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01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 2: I guess include medical doctrine signist doctor Veilber Bulls Baltimore,

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Speaker 2: civil rights activist Carl Snowden, Grio Baba La Bumba and

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Speaker 2: also the founder of the Black Lawyers for Justice, Attorney

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01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:19,400
Speaker 2: maliks Shaba is all going to be here this week,

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01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 2: so if you are in Baltimore, keep your radio locked

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01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 2: in tight on ten ten WLB or if you have

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01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 2: the DMV here on fourteen fifty whll and let me

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01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:29,880
Speaker 2: say this, doctor Willie Cholly. I've been during the breakup

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01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 2: going through the texts and the emails and stuff with

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01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 2: people who are saying hearing you for the first time.

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Speaker 2: Let me just read you one and they're all very positive.

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01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 2: It says grand Rising. This guest is spinning game.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 2: He needs a weekless segment on the show. He's speaking

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01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:45,760
Speaker 2: nothing but facts. In this new world. Wealth will be

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01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 2: the difference Black people have to wake up. Thanks for

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Speaker 2: having him on hotep. This is just one of the responses.

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Speaker 2: And they just heard you for the first time. Hear

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01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 2: what you're saying. But you say you mentioned in the

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Speaker 2: book you say that there are five types of wealth.

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Speaker 2: We know the financial ones when we think about you know,

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01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 2: wealth is but we always seen about financial. But you know,

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Speaker 2: let's go to the other ones though, because we always

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01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 2: talk about you know, and we talk about health quite

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Speaker 2: a bit. What about relationship, reputational and intellectual? Can you

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Speaker 2: hit those three for us?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, let let me go a little deeper in that.

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01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 4: But see, relationship well is critically important. It's not just

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01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:25,680
Speaker 4: who you know, but who knows you. And there's the

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01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 4: old saying that says your net worth is determined by

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01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 4: your net work. Okay, who do you know who you're

1442
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:36,280
Speaker 4: hanging around with. If you hang around with nine losers,

1443
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 4: you're gonna be number ten. Come on, somebody, you got

1444
01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 4: to hang around with people who going places, who are

1445
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:46,759
Speaker 4: not talking about people or sayings, but are talking about ideas.

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01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 4: I changed who I was hanging around with. And that

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01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 4: don't mean I don't like the people I grew up with,

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01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 4: but they still on the corner where.

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Speaker 7: I grew up.

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01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 4: I had to get off the corner. I had to

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01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:59,720
Speaker 4: get about it, and I started getting around people who

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01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 4: were talking about ideas.

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01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 6: It changed my life.

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01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 4: So relationships, then your reputation, you know, uh, what people

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01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 4: say about you in the marketplace is critical, you know,

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01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:14,479
Speaker 4: so you will I have a book called an Attitude

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01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:17,440
Speaker 4: of Excellence, and I say in that book that excellence

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01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:21,720
Speaker 4: is the is the path paver for your future. If

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01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 4: you have a reputation of excellence, you will stay employed.

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01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 4: You will somebody want to will want to work with

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Speaker 4: you because you have a reputation for excellence. And then

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Speaker 4: finally is intellectual capital. Look here, folks, everybody who's listening

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01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 4: right now knows something you done made money. You might

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01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 4: be an engineer, you might be a caterer, you might

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01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 4: be able to clean. Well, you know something, and if

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01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 4: you start to market what you know, somebody who does

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Speaker 4: not know what you know and cannot do with that

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01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:02,120
Speaker 4: you do will pay you, okay, and they will pay

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Speaker 4: you well because they need you to help them. The

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Speaker 4: secret to success in life. That according to A. G. Gaston,

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Speaker 4: who was one of the first black millionaires in America

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Speaker 4: out of Birmingham, Alabama, and he was one of the

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Speaker 4: people who helped to fund Martin Luther King and the

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Speaker 4: civil rights movement. Ag Gaston was a guy who did

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01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:26,960
Speaker 4: not even have a high school education initially, but what

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01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:30,759
Speaker 4: he knew was one thing that the secret was success

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01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 4: was to find a need and fill it. When people

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Speaker 4: say what do you do, he said, what you need

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01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:39,880
Speaker 4: and he started helping people one thing, then another thing.

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Speaker 4: Before you knew it, he was a millionaire. So I

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01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:45,920
Speaker 4: want to give everybody again. I'm gonna be at an

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Speaker 4: elite restaurant this Saturday at one o'clock to three o'clock.

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01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:52,799
Speaker 4: I want everybody to come up with my friend, doctor Baruk,

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Speaker 4: and y'all gonna want to be there. And Carl, I'm

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Speaker 4: sending you a copy of my book. Man, I want

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Speaker 4: everybody to know that you get one of these books.

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Speaker 4: So you're gonna get one of the first edition copies,

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01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 4: which is a Colectus edition. Because this book is incredible.

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Speaker 4: People are calling me saying it changed my life. Now

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01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 4: let me tell you'll get ready, tell y'all a story

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Speaker 4: by my granddaughter. My granddaughter, Carl and Kevin. She is

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Speaker 4: thirty years old, a tech executive in phili Con Valley.

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Speaker 4: The girl is doing good, praise the Lord. So she

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01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 4: out in Silicon Valley. I gave her a copy of

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01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:33,640
Speaker 4: the book and Last Fall, and so she calls me

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01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:36,559
Speaker 4: about thirty days later, said, Pop, I just finished reading

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Speaker 4: your book.

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Speaker 6: It changed my life.

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Speaker 4: She said. You know, I live in downtown San Jose.

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Speaker 4: I got a luxury apartment three thousand dollars a month.

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Speaker 4: I've been traveling all over with my friends. On the weekends.

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Speaker 4: They go to Hawaii, we go to this place, we

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01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:51,679
Speaker 4: go to a bad place. Well here's the problem, Pop,

1504
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:55,040
Speaker 4: I'm up to my eyeballs in debt and I don't

1505
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:57,639
Speaker 4: know what to do. I'm making one hundred thousand dollars,

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01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:00,559
Speaker 4: but I'm up to my eyeballs and done debt. I said.

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01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:02,800
Speaker 4: She said, so here's what I'm gonna do, and you're

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01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:04,760
Speaker 4: not gonna like it. I said, what is that? She said,

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01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 4: I decided because I read your book and how motivated

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01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:11,599
Speaker 4: I am. I'm gonna move out of this three thousand

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01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:14,679
Speaker 4: dollars apartment and for three months, i'ma live in my car.

1512
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:17,200
Speaker 4: I said, what she said, I'm gonna live in my car.

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01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 4: I got a car that I can live in. The

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01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:23,000
Speaker 4: car is big enough, I can park my car, and

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01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 4: my office complex is safe. I'll ride to the gym

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01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 4: in the morning, shower, go back to work, and then

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01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:30,720
Speaker 4: I'll eat, you know, at some nice places or I

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01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 4: mean fair places that are not too expensive. And I

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01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:36,599
Speaker 4: can do that for three months. I'll save one thousand dollars.

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01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:37,960
Speaker 4: I'll say three thousand.

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01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:38,639
Speaker 6: Dollars a month.

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01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:41,320
Speaker 4: I'll pay off my credit cards and get to those

1523
01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:44,400
Speaker 4: that debt. I said, no, baby, don't do that. Don't

1524
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 4: do that. Don't do that. That's not safe. Here's what

1525
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:49,120
Speaker 4: I want you to do. Find a cheaper apartment. Let's

1526
01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 4: see if you can find a cheaper apartment and you

1527
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:54,800
Speaker 4: use every penny your saving to attack that debt. And

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01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 4: that's just what she decided to do. And she's done that.

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01:23:57,600 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 4: She called me over about a week ago and said,

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01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:01,680
Speaker 4: my debt is down, and you told me one more

1531
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:04,639
Speaker 4: things pop that I've done. I'm maxing out my full

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01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:08,680
Speaker 4: one k I'm maxing it out. You're absolutely right. I'm

1533
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:12,040
Speaker 4: gonna be wealthy, folks. That's why I read this book.

1534
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 4: That's why I read this book.

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01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:18,560
Speaker 2: So you know, so let met your man ask you

1536
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:20,920
Speaker 2: this though, doctor will So it's not how much money

1537
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:22,360
Speaker 2: you make, it's what you do with the money. Is

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01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 2: that what you're telling me?

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01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 4: You baby, you got it, You got it. It's not

1540
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 4: how much money you make, it's what you do with

1541
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:30,320
Speaker 4: your money. Your money need to get up and go

1542
01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 4: to work. Just like you get up and go to

1543
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:34,680
Speaker 4: work every day you get up and go to work.

1544
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:36,240
Speaker 4: Your money need to get up and go to So

1545
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 4: you got to own something, you got to invest it.

1546
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:40,760
Speaker 4: And that's what this book will teach you that. By

1547
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 4: the way, people are asking, do you have to pay

1548
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 4: for my attending this event at Elight? No, it's free.

1549
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 4: Just come, but you better get there early because they're

1550
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:51,840
Speaker 4: gonna be limited seats, but we're gonna it's free. I

1551
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 4: want to help our community close this wealthcare. And you

1552
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 4: know what, here's a saint Kevin and call one of

1553
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 4: the reasons why our community. He doesn't know about wealth

1554
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:04,760
Speaker 4: because our parents sitdn't know. My mama didn't know nothing

1555
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:07,560
Speaker 4: about wells. My grandmama told me here's what they told me,

1556
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 4: go to school, get a good education, and saved your money.

1557
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 4: No one ever said anything about investing because in the

1558
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:21,439
Speaker 4: nineteen twenties, my grandfather worked for the railroads. He had

1559
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 4: put his money in stocks, and nineteen twenty nine the

1560
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 4: stock market crash. He lost everything and so he sold

1561
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:31,800
Speaker 4: off what he thought was worse for his paper for

1562
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:37,639
Speaker 4: pennies on the dollar. Well, they never trusted the stock

1563
01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:40,799
Speaker 4: market again. But if my grandfather had known about investing,

1564
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:43,600
Speaker 4: he would have said, I'm not selling it because it

1565
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:46,560
Speaker 4: went down. I'm holding the paper. I'm a hold it,

1566
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:49,719
Speaker 4: I'm a hold it. And if he had held that paper,

1567
01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 4: the stock market came back, roared back, and he would

1568
01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:57,320
Speaker 4: have been been a million multimillionaires. So this is a

1569
01:25:57,439 --> 01:25:59,639
Speaker 4: book that's going to teach us mindset. I'm not telling

1570
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 4: y'all what they're invest in. I'm not a financial planner.

1571
01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 4: I'm not a financial advisor. I am a great listener

1572
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 4: and I've listened to people for twenty years on my

1573
01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:13,600
Speaker 4: XM show, tell me here's how you get wealthy. And

1574
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:16,120
Speaker 4: I just wrote down what they told me and I

1575
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:18,800
Speaker 4: put it in a book. Wow.

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01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:22,439
Speaker 2: What are some of the misconceptions you have in doing

1577
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 2: your research that you know the average black family does

1578
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:26,320
Speaker 2: or does not know?

1579
01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 4: Oh, thank you for that's a great question. The misconception

1580
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 4: misinformation one that the stock market is that people say, well,

1581
01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 4: you know, the stock market is like playing the lottery. No, No,

1582
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 4: what's planning? What's wrong with the stock market? When people

1583
01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 4: get a hot tip from their cousin Boobu and they say,

1584
01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:51,280
Speaker 4: Booble say I actually put my money on this hot stock. No,

1585
01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 4: you need to do your due diligence. You need to

1586
01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:57,360
Speaker 4: get financial literacy. You need to learn how money works

1587
01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:00,759
Speaker 4: so that you don't put money on bad stuff because

1588
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 4: somebody told you to. You learn, you go through the points.

1589
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:07,320
Speaker 4: You learn about pe Ray Hills. I don't teach you

1590
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:09,200
Speaker 4: of this. I got a guy in the book I

1591
01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:11,680
Speaker 4: wrote about who teaches you that. By the way, in

1592
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 4: the book, I also talk about doctor Hughes, Doctor Kathy Hughes.

1593
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 4: I got a chapter about her and how she built

1594
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:25,080
Speaker 4: wol living in her station, how she had her house foreclosed,

1595
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 4: how she had her car repossessed because she was willing

1596
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:32,599
Speaker 4: to do the hard stuff. Look, it's something that everybody

1597
01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 4: could do. So that's one of the misconceptions that the

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01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 4: stock market is playing in lottery. No, it is not.

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01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:41,160
Speaker 4: If you know what you're doing. That's why Warren Buffett

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Speaker 4: is one of the wealthiest men in the world because

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01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 4: he knows what he's doing, and he teaches that. We

1602
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 4: got companies in the book that will teach you how

1603
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:50,639
Speaker 4: to learn how to do the slock market. But I'm

1604
01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:52,639
Speaker 4: not the guy. I'm just telling you how to think

1605
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 4: about wealth for wealth thus in your mind, thoughts in

1606
01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:56,639
Speaker 4: your brain.

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01:27:57,200 --> 01:27:57,880
Speaker 5: Let me tell you some.

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01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 4: Folks, anybody, you can get rich on an accident. You

1609
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:06,439
Speaker 4: can get rich on an accident. Okay, you can go

1610
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:10,639
Speaker 4: into a basketball arena one night and they say you're

1611
01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:12,840
Speaker 4: the one thousand person who just came in the door,

1612
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:14,640
Speaker 4: and for the night you're going to be the one

1613
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 4: to get the chance to do the half court shot

1614
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:19,720
Speaker 4: for a million dollars and you ain't never shot a

1615
01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:22,640
Speaker 4: basketball in your life. Well you or you're not very

1616
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:24,519
Speaker 4: good one to the other. And so you go down

1617
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 4: to the court of the halftime, they give you the ball.

1618
01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:29,599
Speaker 4: They say, okay, do your saying. You close your eyes,

1619
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:31,960
Speaker 4: you throw the ball up in the air and then shush,

1620
01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:34,640
Speaker 4: it goes in the baskets. You're a millionaire, so you

1621
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:38,879
Speaker 4: can get rich on accidents. But wealth is a decision

1622
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 4: and you got to learn how to make good decisions

1623
01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:44,559
Speaker 4: with every penny, and you got to make that money

1624
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:47,919
Speaker 4: work for you. So it's good Wealthy is that everybody

1625
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 4: go to the website. Get the book right now, get

1626
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:55,840
Speaker 4: multiple copies. Rich is good, Wealthy isbetter dot com and

1627
01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:59,160
Speaker 4: then join me this Saturday with doctor Beru.

1628
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:01,000
Speaker 3: Sounds exciting.

1629
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 4: Look, you did some of the best plant based food

1630
01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 4: stole food on the planet at Elight Restaurant, thirty one

1631
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:11,080
Speaker 4: year old company. And that brother, doctor Brooker is my

1632
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:14,719
Speaker 4: dear friend and I love that brother Les Brown introduced

1633
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:16,840
Speaker 4: me to him, and man, we've been friends. I can't

1634
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 4: wait to help bless him and bless others.

1635
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, doctor Willie Johny between you and doctor Baruch, the

1636
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 1: room is going to blow up. We won't be able

1637
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 1: to hold all that energy between you two guys. Man, Hey, look,

1638
01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:32,120
Speaker 1: I do have a question and doctor Willie Jolly, and

1639
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:37,600
Speaker 1: that is you. You sound like you you have an

1640
01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:42,720
Speaker 1: inside to opportunity. Is opportunity seeking also a part of

1641
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:44,000
Speaker 1: the wealth mindset?

1642
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:47,880
Speaker 2: Howt you what that doctor will hold you a response?

1643
01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:49,760
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the clocked. We got to step aside

1644
01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:51,080
Speaker 2: and get caught up with in the traffic and went

1645
01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:53,599
Speaker 2: I let you respond to Kevin's question on the other side, family,

1646
01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:55,599
Speaker 2: you got a question for doctor Willie Jolly. Reach out

1647
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:58,360
Speaker 2: to us at eight hundred four five zero seventy eight

1648
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:00,320
Speaker 2: seventy six. We'll take your phone calls as to check

1649
01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:03,439
Speaker 2: the trafficing weather. That's next and Grand Rising family, thanks

1650
01:30:03,479 --> 01:30:05,280
Speaker 2: for rolling with us on this Monday morning. Thanks for

1651
01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:07,880
Speaker 2: sewing your week with us. I guess is doctor Willie

1652
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:09,720
Speaker 2: Jolly and MoMA Chelly. We're going to speak with brother

1653
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:12,599
Speaker 2: Tony Browner. But doctor Jolly, do you remember Kevin's question?

1654
01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:13,880
Speaker 2: Do you need Kevin to repeat it for you?

1655
01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:16,000
Speaker 12: Oh?

1656
01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:17,000
Speaker 3: Hey, I got to turn it on.

1657
01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:19,519
Speaker 4: I want to give a shout out to my friend

1658
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:23,720
Speaker 4: Anthony Brown who's coming up behind me. He's part of

1659
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:27,799
Speaker 4: George Frazier's organization and network that I am. Also. George

1660
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:30,479
Speaker 4: has a chapter in the book and one of the

1661
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:33,639
Speaker 4: things that George and Anthony we all realize the importance

1662
01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:36,960
Speaker 4: of mentors. One of my mentors was doctor Benjamin Maids.

1663
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:39,000
Speaker 4: Now I met him, never met him. I spoke on

1664
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:42,760
Speaker 4: Saturday for concerned Black men for their Fatherhood projects, and

1665
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:45,320
Speaker 4: I told the gentlemen, one of the secrets in my

1666
01:30:45,439 --> 01:30:49,280
Speaker 4: success is mentors. And many times mentors are people who

1667
01:30:49,720 --> 01:30:53,280
Speaker 4: you never meet. Doctor Benjamin Mays was one of my mentors.

1668
01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:55,840
Speaker 4: I read everything you got, and so in all my

1669
01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:58,800
Speaker 4: books I talk about that minute, but they are also

1670
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:03,320
Speaker 4: other quotes that he encouraged doctor King, and he encouraged

1671
01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:07,360
Speaker 4: others through his thinking. Now, we've got to have good mentors. Now,

1672
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 4: you don't have to pass somebody who's alive to be

1673
01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:12,080
Speaker 4: your mentor. You just got to be willing to do

1674
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:15,720
Speaker 4: the work, to study, to read to and get in

1675
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:19,960
Speaker 4: depth and indeed get that messaging in your brain and

1676
01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:22,040
Speaker 4: that will change your life. Okay, go ahead, Kevin. What

1677
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:22,719
Speaker 4: was that question?

1678
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:26,760
Speaker 1: Please, yes, sir, all about focus right there. I was

1679
01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:31,320
Speaker 1: asking you about opportunity seeking and how does that play

1680
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:33,240
Speaker 1: a role in wealth management?

1681
01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:34,439
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1682
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:35,200
Speaker 7: Absolutely.

1683
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:37,080
Speaker 4: Look here what I was going to say is in

1684
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:41,080
Speaker 4: the book I talk about the immigrant attitude. The immigrant attitude.

1685
01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:43,200
Speaker 4: Did you know that immigrants come to America and make

1686
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:47,080
Speaker 4: become millionaires five times faster than people born here. Why

1687
01:31:47,439 --> 01:31:49,200
Speaker 4: because they might come from a place where they make

1688
01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:52,080
Speaker 4: fifteen dollars a day to a place where they can

1689
01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:55,280
Speaker 4: make fifteen dollars an hour, and they get busy and

1690
01:31:55,400 --> 01:31:58,600
Speaker 4: they see money where we don't see it. And so

1691
01:31:59,240 --> 01:32:03,599
Speaker 4: opportunity everywhere. Even in the crazy times life we're living

1692
01:32:03,640 --> 01:32:07,920
Speaker 4: in now, under crazy leadership, there's still opportunities. And if

1693
01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:10,599
Speaker 4: you read the book Think and Grow Rich, it says

1694
01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:13,320
Speaker 4: as a premise in the book that says, whatever there's

1695
01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:17,240
Speaker 4: an adversity, at that same point, there's an opportunity. You

1696
01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:19,240
Speaker 4: just got to have eyes open to be able to

1697
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:21,400
Speaker 4: see it. And that's why I want everybody to read

1698
01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:24,960
Speaker 4: these books. Look, everybody, go to Win with Willie dot Com.

1699
01:32:25,400 --> 01:32:28,200
Speaker 4: Win with Willie dot Com, and you get access to

1700
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Speaker 4: all my books, all my resources, and you even get

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Speaker 4: access to the new book Rich is Good, Wealthy is Better.

1702
01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:36,800
Speaker 2: I mean, courage, doctor Willie Jolly hold it there for

1703
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:39,320
Speaker 2: a thought because James and Delaware has a question for you?

1704
01:32:39,479 --> 01:32:43,439
Speaker 2: Is online too? Grand rising, James, Good.

1705
01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:46,560
Speaker 11: Morning, grand riding, grand Riding. How you doing today? My

1706
01:32:46,760 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 11: question is how do I get started in the stock market?

1707
01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:53,920
Speaker 11: Like you know, when do I? When do I begin it?

1708
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:57,160
Speaker 11: From a rookie, a beginner as far I'm getting start?

1709
01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:00,560
Speaker 11: And then and then once I get started, how do

1710
01:33:00,680 --> 01:33:03,479
Speaker 11: I begin to research different stocks for investment?

1711
01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:08,560
Speaker 4: Oh? You ben Now I got the answer. And the

1712
01:33:08,720 --> 01:33:12,360
Speaker 4: answer is a guy named J. R. Fenwick, who I

1713
01:33:12,479 --> 01:33:16,679
Speaker 4: write about in the book. JR. Fenwick started a company

1714
01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:22,040
Speaker 4: that's an education company, a stock education company, and he

1715
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:25,880
Speaker 4: is incredible. I spoke for the opening of his new

1716
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:29,400
Speaker 4: new program first Saturday of the new year. I sat

1717
01:33:29,479 --> 01:33:32,599
Speaker 4: in the back. I took notes because he teaches people

1718
01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:36,439
Speaker 4: how to learn about stocks. One of the guys who

1719
01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:39,200
Speaker 4: was in that room got up and gave a testimonial

1720
01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:42,759
Speaker 4: that was mind bogging. This guy said, I was a fireman,

1721
01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:46,439
Speaker 4: and you know I did okay as a fireman, but

1722
01:33:46,640 --> 01:33:49,360
Speaker 4: when I retired, I got a lump from payment of

1723
01:33:49,439 --> 01:33:51,679
Speaker 4: ten grand. What am I gonna do with this mump summon?

1724
01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:53,240
Speaker 4: And I gotta buy a car? Am I going to

1725
01:33:53,280 --> 01:33:55,960
Speaker 4: get go on the trip. I decided to. I heard

1726
01:33:55,960 --> 01:33:59,720
Speaker 4: about this JR. Fenwick and his stock market education, and

1727
01:33:59,840 --> 01:34:03,720
Speaker 4: I decided to and you know, take his course and

1728
01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:06,479
Speaker 4: learn from him. He said, I invested the ten thousand,

1729
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:09,400
Speaker 4: and then over the next couple of years, every time

1730
01:34:09,439 --> 01:34:11,920
Speaker 4: I get a bonus check or something I'd invested. He

1731
01:34:12,040 --> 01:34:15,479
Speaker 4: started with ten thousand. Now he was sixty five, he's

1732
01:34:15,560 --> 01:34:20,280
Speaker 4: seventy two. Now seven years later he has a market

1733
01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:26,639
Speaker 4: accounts of nine hundred and eighty thousand dollars. You knew

1734
01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:29,120
Speaker 4: what I just said. I said, oh my god. Look,

1735
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:31,439
Speaker 4: if you get the book, you'll be able to reach

1736
01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:35,519
Speaker 4: Ji Fenwick. And he has a it's called Stop for

1737
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:36,920
Speaker 4: Stocks Online.

1738
01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:40,680
Speaker 2: But and let me just interrupt you, doctor Willie John

1739
01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:43,040
Speaker 2: because he's been on here several times as well. It's

1740
01:34:43,080 --> 01:34:45,759
Speaker 2: one of our regular guests, j R. Fenwick.

1741
01:34:47,160 --> 01:34:49,760
Speaker 4: So yes, that's why I recommend I recommend it.

1742
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:54,280
Speaker 2: Great, So James Keith listening. He'll be on you know, shortly,

1743
01:34:54,680 --> 01:34:57,600
Speaker 2: but listen, we're almost out out of time. But I

1744
01:34:57,640 --> 01:34:59,240
Speaker 2: got a question for you because when it comes to

1745
01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:01,920
Speaker 2: brought order my man. Yeah, I'll let you talk to

1746
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:04,800
Speaker 2: Tony Man. But but here's a question for you. WILLI.

1747
01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:07,080
Speaker 2: We got some We got some brothers who feel that

1748
01:35:07,200 --> 01:35:10,960
Speaker 2: people who have money or go after money that they shouldn't.

1749
01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:13,640
Speaker 2: They're almost taken a vow of poverty. They feel that

1750
01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:16,720
Speaker 2: that you're there again. They despise people with money, They

1751
01:35:16,760 --> 01:35:19,360
Speaker 2: despise rich people. They put them down. What do you

1752
01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:22,280
Speaker 2: say to those brothers, I say to those.

1753
01:35:22,160 --> 01:35:26,080
Speaker 4: Brothers, you got children, You got children, you want You

1754
01:35:26,200 --> 01:35:29,360
Speaker 4: want your children to have good health. You want your

1755
01:35:29,400 --> 01:35:32,400
Speaker 4: children to live in a nice home. You money ain't everything,

1756
01:35:32,479 --> 01:35:35,439
Speaker 4: but it's important. Money gives you option. It gives you

1757
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:38,000
Speaker 4: option for your health care. It gives you options where

1758
01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:39,960
Speaker 4: you live, Gonna give you options where your children go

1759
01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:43,280
Speaker 4: to school. They give you options of how your children

1760
01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:46,559
Speaker 4: want to be protected. If you love your children, and man,

1761
01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:49,920
Speaker 4: most men I know black men love their children. If

1762
01:35:49,960 --> 01:35:52,280
Speaker 4: you love your children, you got to have money to

1763
01:35:52,400 --> 01:35:54,400
Speaker 4: take care of them. And you need one more thing

1764
01:35:54,479 --> 01:35:56,479
Speaker 4: I talk about in the books that that wealth is

1765
01:35:56,520 --> 01:36:01,200
Speaker 4: built on three legs. Income. I talked about that already, Investment,

1766
01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:04,760
Speaker 4: We've talked about that. The third one is insurance. If

1767
01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:09,240
Speaker 4: you don't have insurance, life, insurance for your children and

1768
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:13,000
Speaker 4: your families, you don't really love them, period you need

1769
01:36:13,080 --> 01:36:15,800
Speaker 4: to have life insurance for your so you die, don't

1770
01:36:15,880 --> 01:36:18,920
Speaker 4: leave them something but not nothing but a bill. That's

1771
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:21,680
Speaker 4: a bad thing. The body says a good man and

1772
01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:25,559
Speaker 4: leads a heretage for his children's great grandchildren. So money

1773
01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:28,200
Speaker 4: ain't everything, but it's important. It gives you options. Rich

1774
01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:30,960
Speaker 4: is good, Wealthy isbetter. Dot com rich is good wealthy.

1775
01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:34,599
Speaker 2: Right, here's another question for you, real quick, well, Antony,

1776
01:36:35,439 --> 01:36:39,160
Speaker 2: thank you of insulpatient with this TWEETU says, grand rising

1777
01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:42,800
Speaker 2: to you and your guest. Allan told me to ask

1778
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:45,200
Speaker 2: him about retired people who live want to fixed income.

1779
01:36:45,320 --> 01:36:48,280
Speaker 2: How can she multiply with that type of income? Is

1780
01:36:48,360 --> 01:36:50,000
Speaker 2: this in the book as well?

1781
01:36:51,160 --> 01:36:51,360
Speaker 9: Yes?

1782
01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:56,320
Speaker 4: Okay, because you're retired does not mean that you do

1783
01:36:56,520 --> 01:37:00,000
Speaker 4: not have your brain working. No more. Okay, you retired

1784
01:37:00,160 --> 01:37:02,640
Speaker 4: don't mean your brain ain't working. So what you have

1785
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:05,639
Speaker 4: to do is one you have to decide. You gotta

1786
01:37:05,640 --> 01:37:08,839
Speaker 4: make some tough decisions if you got a limited income.

1787
01:37:09,720 --> 01:37:12,599
Speaker 4: And as one doctor told me, somebody said he came

1788
01:37:12,640 --> 01:37:14,639
Speaker 4: to his office says, hey, I'm gonna fix in something.

1789
01:37:14,680 --> 01:37:19,120
Speaker 4: He said, who fixed it? Okay, Uh, you've got some resources,

1790
01:37:19,120 --> 01:37:21,320
Speaker 4: you got more time, you got a cushion. So a

1791
01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:23,080
Speaker 4: lot of retire people what they do is they know,

1792
01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:25,760
Speaker 4: I got now this cushion. I know I'm gonna have

1793
01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:27,280
Speaker 4: X amount of money every month.

1794
01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:28,719
Speaker 6: Now I can.

1795
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:31,720
Speaker 4: Decide what I do with this intellectual capital that I

1796
01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:35,599
Speaker 4: got what I know to generate more revenue. And when

1797
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:38,479
Speaker 4: you do that, then you take that revenue and you

1798
01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:42,439
Speaker 4: start to invest it so you can create more wealth. Look,

1799
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:46,240
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be an elyte restaurant this Saturday one o'clock

1800
01:37:46,439 --> 01:37:50,000
Speaker 4: with box friend doctor Bruk. Y'all better come bringing you,

1801
01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:53,599
Speaker 4: bring your wallet, bring your credit card. I'm not charging

1802
01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:56,120
Speaker 4: you a penny to get in, but I'm gonna charge

1803
01:37:56,160 --> 01:37:58,320
Speaker 4: you for my books and you're gonna buy a bunch

1804
01:37:58,400 --> 01:38:00,799
Speaker 4: of them and you're gonna get one for your family.

1805
01:38:02,240 --> 01:38:05,599
Speaker 4: Bring all your money because I want it. But look

1806
01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:08,720
Speaker 4: beyond that, look here, look here, Come get some good

1807
01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:12,120
Speaker 4: food with doctor Baruk's best food in the area, in

1808
01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:14,599
Speaker 4: the world, and then go to Richard's Good Wealthy as

1809
01:38:14,600 --> 01:38:18,920
Speaker 4: boy dot com and follow these lessons. Again, it didn't

1810
01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:22,479
Speaker 4: come from me, came through all right, doctor Willie.

1811
01:38:22,479 --> 01:38:24,719
Speaker 2: I want you say good morning to brother Tony Browner.

1812
01:38:24,960 --> 01:38:25,560
Speaker 2: He's listening to you.

1813
01:38:25,680 --> 01:38:29,280
Speaker 4: Right now, Brother, Tony Broder, you are a bad man.

1814
01:38:29,479 --> 01:38:32,920
Speaker 4: You know that you're a bad man. Tony Browner, Well.

1815
01:38:32,880 --> 01:38:36,120
Speaker 10: Brother, I love you to life and matter of fact,

1816
01:38:36,160 --> 01:38:38,439
Speaker 10: so last time he granted to each other was at

1817
01:38:39,160 --> 01:38:43,240
Speaker 10: a funeral service for a dear friend of ours. You've

1818
01:38:43,360 --> 01:38:47,920
Speaker 10: always been full of enthusiasm, full of great information, full

1819
01:38:47,960 --> 01:38:51,000
Speaker 10: of bigger in life. And keep on doing what you're doing.

1820
01:38:51,080 --> 01:38:51,280
Speaker 5: Brother.

1821
01:38:51,439 --> 01:38:54,040
Speaker 4: I love you, man, man, Thank you. I love you man,

1822
01:38:54,120 --> 01:38:56,439
Speaker 4: and I'm grateful for you man and all you do

1823
01:38:56,640 --> 01:38:59,760
Speaker 4: for our community and our people. And I've got it.

1824
01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:01,880
Speaker 4: I've got to join you on one of these trips

1825
01:39:01,960 --> 01:39:04,200
Speaker 4: to Egypt there or you know, you take these exotic,

1826
01:39:04,360 --> 01:39:08,120
Speaker 4: incredible trips. George Fraider Be's telling me all about you, man.

1827
01:39:08,200 --> 01:39:10,040
Speaker 4: I gotta gonna come with one of them things. Man,

1828
01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:13,560
Speaker 4: I gotta do. Everybody support his books. I heard that

1829
01:39:13,680 --> 01:39:18,799
Speaker 4: at Sankopha and they're at Mahogany. Go get this brother's

1830
01:39:18,840 --> 01:39:22,640
Speaker 4: books because they will change your life. I'm attesting to that.

1831
01:39:23,000 --> 01:39:25,479
Speaker 4: Thank you for Thank you, Kevin, thank you Carl for

1832
01:39:25,640 --> 01:39:27,760
Speaker 4: having me. And I'm gonna let Tony take the show

1833
01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:30,920
Speaker 4: from here. Tony, have a great day. Blessing to your family, man,

1834
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:35,719
Speaker 4: Thank you man you peace all right, right, see you gentlemen,

1835
01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:38,160
Speaker 4: everybody have a great day. Let me close. Is this

1836
01:39:38,640 --> 01:39:41,200
Speaker 4: as our did friend Les Brown says, I close this

1837
01:39:41,640 --> 01:39:43,880
Speaker 4: if you want to think bad enough to go out

1838
01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:45,640
Speaker 4: and fight for it, work day and night for it,

1839
01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:47,519
Speaker 4: and give up your time and your peace and sleep

1840
01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:50,120
Speaker 4: for if all that your dreaming scheme is about it,

1841
01:39:50,360 --> 01:39:53,080
Speaker 4: and life seemed useless and worthless without it, if you

1842
01:39:53,200 --> 01:39:55,439
Speaker 4: gladly sweat for it and sprendford and lose all of

1843
01:39:55,520 --> 01:39:58,280
Speaker 4: your terror of the opposition for it, if you simply

1844
01:39:58,360 --> 01:40:00,479
Speaker 4: go after that thing that you want all of your

1845
01:40:00,520 --> 01:40:04,840
Speaker 4: capacity strength is sagacity, faith, hope, and confidence and stern pertinacity.

1846
01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:08,120
Speaker 4: It neither cold, poverty, famine, nor gout sickness, no pain

1847
01:40:08,200 --> 01:40:10,280
Speaker 4: of body and brain can keep you away from the

1848
01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:12,879
Speaker 4: thing that you want. If dogged and grim your bestiege

1849
01:40:12,920 --> 01:40:16,679
Speaker 4: and this said it, with the help of God, Almighty God,

1850
01:40:17,120 --> 01:40:20,600
Speaker 4: You're sure again. Y'll love you, gentlemen, Love you, gentlemen.

1851
01:40:20,360 --> 01:40:20,560
Speaker 5: Love you.

1852
01:40:20,760 --> 01:40:23,320
Speaker 2: Thank you, doctor Willie Jolly, Thank you for sharing that

1853
01:40:23,400 --> 01:40:26,719
Speaker 2: with us. A twelve after the top, for bringing Tony Kevin.

1854
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:30,240
Speaker 2: You know this morning we talked about Donald Trump had

1855
01:40:30,320 --> 01:40:33,640
Speaker 2: made a deadline to reopen the straits of horm moves. Well,

1856
01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:37,080
Speaker 2: guess what, he's extending the deadline. Remember we told you

1857
01:40:37,160 --> 01:40:39,360
Speaker 2: that was that was in a good movie that You're

1858
01:40:39,360 --> 01:40:42,880
Speaker 2: a line in the sand. Gave him until midnight. That's

1859
01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:47,240
Speaker 2: just is extended it. Well, we'll just keep taco. Yeah, Taco.

1860
01:40:47,400 --> 01:40:51,080
Speaker 2: Tony intelligence here for the grand rising.

1861
01:40:51,160 --> 01:40:55,599
Speaker 10: Tony hey Hey, good morning, Good morning, Kevin, good morning, Carl,

1862
01:40:55,720 --> 01:40:57,160
Speaker 10: good morning, w l family.

1863
01:40:57,560 --> 01:40:58,880
Speaker 4: It's always grand to be here.

1864
01:40:59,000 --> 01:41:03,080
Speaker 10: Let me add another Donald Trump's story before we get started.

1865
01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:07,080
Speaker 10: A headlining Today's Washington Post said that Donald Trump has

1866
01:41:07,240 --> 01:41:11,800
Speaker 10: caused more disruption in the architecture of Washington, d C.

1867
01:41:12,479 --> 01:41:16,000
Speaker 10: Since the War of eighteen twelve. Since the War of

1868
01:41:16,080 --> 01:41:18,120
Speaker 10: eighteen twelve. Why is that important? And the War of

1869
01:41:18,200 --> 01:41:21,400
Speaker 10: eighteen twelve was when the Bridge decided that they were

1870
01:41:21,439 --> 01:41:24,599
Speaker 10: going to fight to get this country back from the rebels,

1871
01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:27,160
Speaker 10: George Washington and these boys who stole it from them.

1872
01:41:27,479 --> 01:41:30,040
Speaker 10: So they came in, their troops came in, and they

1873
01:41:30,120 --> 01:41:33,400
Speaker 10: controlled Washington, d C. For a while, and they burned

1874
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:40,479
Speaker 10: down they burnt down the White House, right and they

1875
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:44,320
Speaker 10: burned the Library of Congress. And one of the reasons

1876
01:41:44,360 --> 01:41:49,040
Speaker 10: why they burned down. The library was because when George

1877
01:41:49,160 --> 01:41:52,519
Speaker 10: Washington and his folks were battling the British in Canada,

1878
01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:56,320
Speaker 10: they burned down their national Library. So it was parmer,

1879
01:41:56,439 --> 01:41:59,879
Speaker 10: it was tit for tat, And after the Bridges were defeated,

1880
01:42:00,520 --> 01:42:04,519
Speaker 10: then they re painted the White House. They restored it

1881
01:42:04,840 --> 01:42:07,960
Speaker 10: and then painted it white and then from that point on,

1882
01:42:08,200 --> 01:42:11,160
Speaker 10: it's when that house became known as the White House.

1883
01:42:11,720 --> 01:42:13,080
Speaker 4: So a lot of history.

1884
01:42:13,160 --> 01:42:18,440
Speaker 10: But somebody's boy, Donald Trump is creating havoc and confusion

1885
01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:23,680
Speaker 10: everywhere he goes, and DC is the worst because of it.

1886
01:42:25,200 --> 01:42:27,519
Speaker 2: Not just DC, some people say the entire world. But

1887
01:42:27,880 --> 01:42:29,080
Speaker 2: we'll put that to the side.

1888
01:42:30,720 --> 01:42:31,519
Speaker 4: Exactly exactly.

1889
01:42:31,560 --> 01:42:33,080
Speaker 10: As a matter of fact, let me just share this

1890
01:42:33,200 --> 01:42:35,200
Speaker 10: with you. In the same article, it said that he

1891
01:42:35,400 --> 01:42:39,600
Speaker 10: just recently placed a statue of Christoper Columbus that was

1892
01:42:39,680 --> 01:42:42,479
Speaker 10: in DC and was taken down during the George Floyd

1893
01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:47,320
Speaker 10: protests six years ago. He reinstalled that statue on the

1894
01:42:47,400 --> 01:42:55,160
Speaker 10: White House. And a statue of Albert Pike that was

1895
01:42:55,240 --> 01:42:59,280
Speaker 10: in front of a judicial building on Third Street in

1896
01:42:59,360 --> 01:43:03,720
Speaker 10: Northwest was taken down doing the George Floyd protests and

1897
01:43:03,960 --> 01:43:08,240
Speaker 10: was just recently reinstalled at that location. Why is that important.

1898
01:43:08,439 --> 01:43:12,519
Speaker 10: It's important because Albert Pike is the only statue of

1899
01:43:12,640 --> 01:43:17,240
Speaker 10: a Confederate general in Washington, DC. Albert Pike was a

1900
01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:23,479
Speaker 10: Confederate general who worked in concert with the founder of

1901
01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:30,160
Speaker 10: the KKK. Albert Pike wrote the ritual for the KKK

1902
01:43:30,400 --> 01:43:33,560
Speaker 10: for the kou Kuk Band. Albert Pike is buried in

1903
01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:37,240
Speaker 10: the House of the Temple at seventeen thirty three Sixteenth Street,

1904
01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:40,080
Speaker 10: which is the headquarters for all thirty third degree Masons

1905
01:43:40,560 --> 01:43:44,920
Speaker 10: on the planet. So, people who have done wrong to

1906
01:43:45,240 --> 01:43:50,919
Speaker 10: people of color, African people, people who had statues erected

1907
01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:55,080
Speaker 10: in their honor, and these statues were taken down during

1908
01:43:55,160 --> 01:43:57,760
Speaker 10: the George Floyd moment here in this country when it

1909
01:43:57,880 --> 01:44:02,200
Speaker 10: had a conscious for about sixty five seconds. All of

1910
01:44:02,240 --> 01:44:05,840
Speaker 10: those statues are now being re erected by Donald Trump

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Speaker 10: and his crew. So there will be a price to

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Speaker 10: pay for their transgressions, and people need to be aware

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Speaker 10: of that and adjust their thinking accordingly so that they

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Speaker 10: can be on the other side of the negative karma

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Speaker 10: that is coming because of all this hell that he's

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Speaker 10: intentionally bringing to Washington, DC and the rest of the world.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, Tony Browner, they are calling the National Garden

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Speaker 1: of American Heroes, he plans to put up even more

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Speaker 1: controversial statues.

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Speaker 3: Do you hear about that?

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Speaker 4: Yep, yep, yep, yep.

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Speaker 10: So this man is a demon, He is a personification

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Speaker 10: of the devil, and he's spreading hell all over the world.

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Speaker 10: And the folk whup voted him in office, black and white,

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Speaker 10: are the ones who are responsible for all of this.

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Speaker 10: And there's going to be a price to pay. So

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01:44:58,240 --> 01:45:02,200
Speaker 10: there's no innocent bystanding and what's happening. Either you are

1928
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Speaker 10: on the side of that which is good and which

1929
01:45:05,360 --> 01:45:07,600
Speaker 10: is right and which is fair, or you're on the

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Speaker 10: side of evil, death and destruction. And you got to

1931
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Speaker 10: make a decision. You got to be clean and live

1932
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Speaker 10: the rest of your life expressing whatever your your thoughts are.

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Speaker 10: So it looks like evil has been winning. But the

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Speaker 10: only reason why things haven't gotten worse is because a

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Speaker 10: lot of good people have been working overtime to keep

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Speaker 10: evil in check. And we're gonna need more people fighting

1937
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Speaker 10: for the side of goodness, living for the side of goodness,

1938
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Speaker 10: and that's the only way we're gonna win this war.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, that's all right, then we're gonna step

1940
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Speaker 2: aside for a couple of minutes, but we have come back.

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Speaker 2: I want you to pick up on that. I know

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Speaker 2: that's not what we were going to talk about, but

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Speaker 2: I guess the ancestors wants is to reveal it. Brother Tony,

1944
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Speaker 2: you say that's he's somebody he's got to pay. If

1945
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Speaker 2: it's not him, it's it's gonna be his family. Some

1946
01:45:57,360 --> 01:46:00,400
Speaker 2: people talk about the Kennedy curse. Do you think there's

1947
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Speaker 2: going to be a Trump curse. I'll let you respond

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Speaker 2: to that when I get back. Family, you Tubo can

1949
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Speaker 2: get in on this conversation of that guest chemtologist Tony Browner,

1950
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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about the significance of the summer

1951
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Speaker 2: of the spring equinox, and we'll do that next and

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Speaker 2: Grand Rising Family, thanks for staying with us on this

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Speaker 2: Monday morning. Thanks for starting your week with us. At

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Speaker 2: twenty one minutes after the top of they out with

1955
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Speaker 2: our guests, the chemtologists, Brother Tony Browner, we're going to

1956
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Speaker 2: talk about the significance of the spring economics. But since

1957
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Speaker 2: we're talking about Donald Trump had a conversation just yesterday

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Speaker 2: with a friend of mine about the Kennedys and the

1959
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Speaker 2: curse of the Kennedys of Joe Kennedy what he did

1960
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Speaker 2: to gain his wealth and which is just a mischool

1961
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Speaker 2: to what Donald Trump has done. So I know, our

1962
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Speaker 2: ancestors believe that whatever you do is going to come back,

1963
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Speaker 2: and you may not come with this generation becoming generations

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Speaker 2: after as we see people you know always you know,

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Speaker 2: point to the Kennedy family. Can you explain to the family,

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Speaker 2: our family right now on the radio, brother Tony, how

1967
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Speaker 2: our ancest is believed in that they believed in in

1968
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Speaker 2: you know, the equilibrium be you know, you could be

1969
01:47:02,479 --> 01:47:05,160
Speaker 2: judged up like a feather on a scale. Can you

1970
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Speaker 2: explain how they came to that that. You know that

1971
01:47:09,160 --> 01:47:11,640
Speaker 2: some people call it karma, So, you know, can you

1972
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Speaker 2: explain that for us?

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Speaker 4: Sure?

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Speaker 10: Of course, you know what Karma is a East Indian

1975
01:47:18,080 --> 01:47:21,839
Speaker 10: term that speaks to the law of calls and effect,

1976
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:27,160
Speaker 10: everything that every cause that is set in motion produces

1977
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Speaker 10: an effect and those effects reverberate back to the actual calls.

1978
01:47:34,280 --> 01:47:37,400
Speaker 10: That said, in emotion, calls and effect. Calls and effect.

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Speaker 10: H It's kind of like call and response in the church,

1980
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Speaker 10: the preacher says something in the congregation response that's a

1981
01:47:45,560 --> 01:47:48,920
Speaker 10: universal constant and so the things that you do, the

1982
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Speaker 10: things that you say, create causes, and all of those

1983
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Speaker 10: causes created an effect. You know, if I tell you, hey, Carl,

1984
01:47:59,320 --> 01:48:01,960
Speaker 10: I love you, I think you're doing great work, that's

1985
01:48:02,000 --> 01:48:07,040
Speaker 10: going to produce an effect within your being, within yourself,

1986
01:48:07,120 --> 01:48:10,640
Speaker 10: within your consciousness, and then you're going to reciprocate that

1987
01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:15,240
Speaker 10: ba to me. You know, as brother Jolly was saying before,

1988
01:48:15,280 --> 01:48:18,960
Speaker 10: in terms of different types of wealth relationship, wealth is

1989
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Speaker 10: critically important. So maintaining healthy relationships is critical to living

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Speaker 10: because you want to give out what you want back,

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Speaker 10: and if you have a society that does that, that

1992
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Speaker 10: society prospers. Unfortunately, we live in a society that is

1993
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Speaker 10: all about taking, that is all about exploitation, and so

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01:48:38,840 --> 01:48:43,439
Speaker 10: the wealthy in many instances have taken advantage of the

1995
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Speaker 10: poor and they do everything within their power to keep

1996
01:48:46,240 --> 01:48:49,479
Speaker 10: the poor from becoming wealthy so that they can maintain

1997
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Speaker 10: control over them. That's been the reciprocal relationship, and the

1998
01:48:53,320 --> 01:48:56,840
Speaker 10: only way it changes is by the poor people rising up,

1999
01:48:57,680 --> 01:49:01,840
Speaker 10: not to acquire more wealth and treat the wealthy the

2000
01:49:01,920 --> 01:49:06,360
Speaker 10: Fourmulaly wealthy the same way, but to seek balance and reciprocity.

2001
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Speaker 10: So you mentioned Joe Kennedy. Well, what most people don't

2002
01:49:10,920 --> 01:49:14,920
Speaker 10: know about Joe Kennedy is that he made his millions,

2003
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Speaker 10: his billions by running whiskey, particularly during Prohibition, and that's

2004
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Speaker 10: how he acquired his wealth.

2005
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Speaker 4: And I'm from.

2006
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Speaker 10: Chicago, and everybody in Chicago knew that Joe Kennedy, this irishman,

2007
01:49:30,400 --> 01:49:33,559
Speaker 10: this Irish gangster, and that's what he was, a gangster.

2008
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Speaker 10: He had so much wealth that he purchased a property

2009
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Speaker 10: on the banks of the Chicago River called the Merchandized March,

2010
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Speaker 10: the Merchandise Mark. That's where NBC was housed. My mother

2011
01:49:47,760 --> 01:49:49,439
Speaker 10: used to work at NBC, so that's how I came

2012
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Speaker 10: to know that building. But the Merchandized Mark was a

2013
01:49:52,520 --> 01:49:56,040
Speaker 10: building that was several block square and I don't know

2014
01:49:56,120 --> 01:50:00,160
Speaker 10: how many seats high, and it was so huge that

2015
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Speaker 10: in the sixties, when they came out with zip codes,

2016
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Speaker 10: this building had its own zip codes. Well, folks Chicago

2017
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Speaker 10: knew that the Merchandise Mark was owned by the Kennedy.

2018
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Speaker 4: Family, right, And folks also know that John F.

2019
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Speaker 10: Kennedy when he was running for president in nineteen sixty

2020
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Speaker 10: it was Irish against the mayor Mayory Daily of Chicago

2021
01:50:27,080 --> 01:50:32,240
Speaker 10: who split the votes in Chicago, which guaranteed that his son,

2022
01:50:33,880 --> 01:50:38,240
Speaker 10: John F. Kennedy would win the presidential election. Right, So,

2023
01:50:39,320 --> 01:50:42,080
Speaker 10: you know, the Kennedys have had their hands in a

2024
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Speaker 10: number of nefarious acts and which has led to what

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Speaker 10: they referred to as the Kennedy Curse.

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Speaker 4: John F.

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Speaker 10: Kennedy was murdered, then his brother Robert was running for president,

2028
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Speaker 10: then he was murdered, and then John Kennedy's son dies

2029
01:50:56,920 --> 01:50:59,960
Speaker 10: in the plane crash, and all this tragedy has been

2030
01:51:00,120 --> 01:51:04,000
Speaker 10: follow in his family, and and and and many people

2031
01:51:04,520 --> 01:51:07,920
Speaker 10: understand that that's a negative karma that is coming back

2032
01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:11,080
Speaker 10: on on their family for the evil that they've done. Now,

2033
01:51:12,040 --> 01:51:16,120
Speaker 10: the same thing has has happened to other other people

2034
01:51:16,240 --> 01:51:20,640
Speaker 10: who have committed other atrocities, but they're just not The

2035
01:51:20,720 --> 01:51:24,760
Speaker 10: public has not been informed as to the evil that

2036
01:51:24,880 --> 01:51:29,120
Speaker 10: has been that has visited their family, their descendants and

2037
01:51:29,200 --> 01:51:32,400
Speaker 10: future generations. So all you got to do is watch

2038
01:51:32,479 --> 01:51:35,320
Speaker 10: what's happening with this current occupant of the White House,

2039
01:51:35,400 --> 01:51:38,920
Speaker 10: Donald Trump. We know that he is not nearly as

2040
01:51:39,160 --> 01:51:42,439
Speaker 10: healthy as he proclaims himself to be. He's got these

2041
01:51:42,520 --> 01:51:46,799
Speaker 10: bruises on his hands that he's covering up with with makeup.

2042
01:51:46,960 --> 01:51:50,160
Speaker 10: He's got this this rash on his neke, he's got

2043
01:51:55,080 --> 01:51:58,599
Speaker 10: the accumulating in his ankles, He's got these fat ankles

2044
01:51:58,720 --> 01:52:01,560
Speaker 10: or cankos, as my cousin Vicki calls him. He is

2045
01:52:01,680 --> 01:52:04,120
Speaker 10: not a healthy man. But they've been lying about himself.

2046
01:52:04,640 --> 01:52:09,400
Speaker 10: Watch his family, watches his children, and just notice how

2047
01:52:09,560 --> 01:52:13,479
Speaker 10: over time, despite all the money they have, they're going

2048
01:52:13,560 --> 01:52:17,519
Speaker 10: to start falling apart. Their children are going to start

2049
01:52:17,680 --> 01:52:23,880
Speaker 10: inheriting problems. And that's karma, that's reciprocity. I have come

2050
01:52:24,000 --> 01:52:27,400
Speaker 10: to understand that this thing that the Eastern Indians referred

2051
01:52:27,400 --> 01:52:30,719
Speaker 10: to as karma was known in Africa as my at

2052
01:52:31,439 --> 01:52:36,519
Speaker 10: and their principles associated with my truth, justice, righteousness, balanced harmony,

2053
01:52:36,680 --> 01:52:42,200
Speaker 10: order and reciprocity. In Africa, in the Nile vallets specifically,

2054
01:52:42,720 --> 01:52:46,439
Speaker 10: it was understood right. It wasn't believed, because the belief

2055
01:52:46,520 --> 01:52:49,640
Speaker 10: is something that you accept without proof. It was understood

2056
01:52:49,680 --> 01:52:53,599
Speaker 10: and it was well known that when every person died,

2057
01:52:54,320 --> 01:52:58,400
Speaker 10: their soul will be weighed opposite the feather of my

2058
01:52:59,040 --> 01:53:01,519
Speaker 10: on the scale of mod and they would have to

2059
01:53:01,800 --> 01:53:05,240
Speaker 10: testify as to the quality of life that they live.

2060
01:53:05,840 --> 01:53:09,320
Speaker 10: And that testimonial was given by the soul of the

2061
01:53:09,520 --> 01:53:15,320
Speaker 10: person reciting the forty two Admonitions of mod or the

2062
01:53:15,439 --> 01:53:19,599
Speaker 10: forty two Declarations of innis I've not stolen, I've not robbed,

2063
01:53:19,640 --> 01:53:22,280
Speaker 10: I'm not defrauduct offerings that I've not spoken ill about God.

2064
01:53:22,360 --> 01:53:25,559
Speaker 10: I'm not polluted byself, I'm not police land. Those forty

2065
01:53:25,600 --> 01:53:30,680
Speaker 10: two declarations of Innocence will sound familiar to people of

2066
01:53:30,760 --> 01:53:35,120
Speaker 10: the Christian faith because they are the source of the

2067
01:53:35,360 --> 01:53:41,720
Speaker 10: Ten Commandments. Let me repeat that the forty two Declarations

2068
01:53:41,800 --> 01:53:46,639
Speaker 10: of Innocence are the origins of what is now known

2069
01:53:46,720 --> 01:53:51,759
Speaker 10: today as the Ten Commandments. And it was James Brested,

2070
01:53:51,880 --> 01:53:57,400
Speaker 10: the founder of the Oriental Institute at the University of Chicago,

2071
01:53:57,800 --> 01:54:02,200
Speaker 10: who made that declaration around nineteen thirty five. And Christians

2072
01:54:02,240 --> 01:54:05,360
Speaker 10: got upset with him for saying that, but he said,

2073
01:54:05,720 --> 01:54:06,599
Speaker 10: here's the evidence.

2074
01:54:06,960 --> 01:54:07,679
Speaker 4: Here's the proof.

2075
01:54:07,800 --> 01:54:11,880
Speaker 10: I'm not just saying this to tick you off. I

2076
01:54:11,960 --> 01:54:15,080
Speaker 10: can provide you the evidence to show that the Ten

2077
01:54:15,200 --> 01:54:19,760
Speaker 10: Commandments were derived from the forty two definitions forty two

2078
01:54:19,880 --> 01:54:24,880
Speaker 10: admonitions amid and I would add to that there is

2079
01:54:25,040 --> 01:54:29,840
Speaker 10: no commandment gou shalt not lie, right, And let me

2080
01:54:29,960 --> 01:54:31,960
Speaker 10: qualify that there is no commandment go.

2081
01:54:32,120 --> 01:54:32,800
Speaker 4: Should not lie.

2082
01:54:32,920 --> 01:54:37,839
Speaker 10: The commandment is thus, shall not bear false witness against

2083
01:54:38,360 --> 01:54:43,360
Speaker 10: thy neighbor. Now, the difference between the two is and

2084
01:54:44,080 --> 01:54:47,680
Speaker 10: a good pastor friend of mine. Pastor Derrick Jackson shared

2085
01:54:47,720 --> 01:54:52,680
Speaker 10: this information with mere decades ago. The Ten Commandments were

2086
01:54:52,720 --> 01:54:58,120
Speaker 10: written by Jewish people for Jewish people alone. It was

2087
01:54:58,280 --> 01:55:03,440
Speaker 10: commandment against so called the chosen people of God. And

2088
01:55:03,560 --> 01:55:07,480
Speaker 10: so you do not bear false witness against your.

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01:55:07,440 --> 01:55:08,360
Speaker 4: Neighbor, the jew.

2090
01:55:08,720 --> 01:55:11,480
Speaker 10: But it's all right to lie and cheat and still

2091
01:55:12,000 --> 01:55:14,760
Speaker 10: and kill folks who are not part of your clan.

2092
01:55:15,320 --> 01:55:20,760
Speaker 10: That's just those ten commandments were originally written for that's

2093
01:55:20,880 --> 01:55:23,800
Speaker 10: what they mean. So if you think that they applied

2094
01:55:24,440 --> 01:55:27,520
Speaker 10: to everybody across the board, you are sadly mistaken.

2095
01:55:27,960 --> 01:55:30,600
Speaker 4: And so is our idea.

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01:55:30,920 --> 01:55:34,800
Speaker 10: Brother James Marl says history eras is the mystery when

2097
01:55:34,840 --> 01:55:40,600
Speaker 10: you understand that the text from the Old Testament were

2098
01:55:40,760 --> 01:55:43,800
Speaker 10: texts that were written specifically for a group of people

2099
01:55:44,400 --> 01:55:48,520
Speaker 10: only for them. They did not apply those lessons did

2100
01:55:48,560 --> 01:55:51,880
Speaker 10: not apply to everybody else. The other part of the

2101
01:55:52,000 --> 01:55:56,280
Speaker 10: equation is those who know the history, who study the history,

2102
01:55:56,520 --> 01:56:00,600
Speaker 10: know that that information from the Old Testament was derive

2103
01:56:00,960 --> 01:56:05,480
Speaker 10: from the teachings of the Nile Valley. The teachings that

2104
01:56:05,600 --> 01:56:08,720
Speaker 10: came out of Cus, the teachings that came out of Ethiopia,

2105
01:56:09,040 --> 01:56:12,120
Speaker 10: the teachings that came out of Kimt. So one of

2106
01:56:12,200 --> 01:56:17,440
Speaker 10: the reasons why white folk and Arabs had to suppress

2107
01:56:17,960 --> 01:56:21,920
Speaker 10: the knowledge of Kimmt or Egypt had to take Egypt

2108
01:56:22,000 --> 01:56:24,640
Speaker 10: out of Africa and put it in the Middle East

2109
01:56:25,200 --> 01:56:30,640
Speaker 10: is because the greatest concentration of accumulated knowledge and wisdom

2110
01:56:30,800 --> 01:56:34,920
Speaker 10: of any people on the planet has only been found

2111
01:56:35,440 --> 01:56:39,360
Speaker 10: in the Now Valley. And so because of the fact

2112
01:56:39,560 --> 01:56:42,680
Speaker 10: that they had to perpetuate this myth that the people

2113
01:56:42,760 --> 01:56:47,680
Speaker 10: from the Nile Valley were non African, they lied and

2114
01:56:47,800 --> 01:56:53,160
Speaker 10: they have been perpetuating the lie for at least two centuries.

2115
01:56:53,560 --> 01:56:56,480
Speaker 10: And so it's so critically important for those of us

2116
01:56:56,560 --> 01:57:01,000
Speaker 10: who are interested in balancing the scale to bring the truth,

2117
01:57:01,160 --> 01:57:05,600
Speaker 10: to bring my out, to bring this information, and also

2118
01:57:05,840 --> 01:57:10,120
Speaker 10: called to share this information with those with ears to

2119
01:57:10,320 --> 01:57:14,120
Speaker 10: hear it in a mind to understand and apply the lessons.

2120
01:57:14,600 --> 01:57:18,720
Speaker 10: So I understand, based on my relationship with you, based

2121
01:57:18,760 --> 01:57:22,280
Speaker 10: on my thirty nine year relationship with w L, I

2122
01:57:22,400 --> 01:57:25,480
Speaker 10: understand very clearly that there are those people who will

2123
01:57:25,680 --> 01:57:28,640
Speaker 10: hear these words and it will resonate with them. There

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Speaker 10: are others who will hear these words and they will

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Speaker 10: go in one ear out the other, because their spirit

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Speaker 10: does not is not in alignment with this truth. That

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Speaker 10: they are not prepared to embrace this truth because it

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Speaker 10: creates what what psychologists referred to as cognitive diitionance. It

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Speaker 10: makes them feel ill or they can't believe it because

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Speaker 10: they've been socialized to embrace the teachings of their form enslavers,

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Speaker 10: the teachings of those who have miseducated them, and someone

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Speaker 10: who brings contradictory information must be telling a lie or

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Speaker 10: they will they will turn their world upside down, so

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Speaker 10: they run from it. And I understand that, and that's

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Speaker 10: their choice. But you know, I'm so appreciative of the

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Speaker 10: opportunities that you've given me car for you know, decades

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Speaker 10: almost to have access to you through the airways, so

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Speaker 10: that I can share information with those who are prepared

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Speaker 10: to hear it and more importantly, who will use this

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Speaker 10: information to improve their quality of life.

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Speaker 2: But you know what, I guess the answers was working,

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Speaker 2: because that's not what we were going to talk about.

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Speaker 2: But let me say this, once you understand what Tony

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Speaker 2: just said, you don't trip nothing, You don't get excited

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Speaker 2: because you understand what the outcome. Explain that part of it,

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Speaker 2: brother Tony, because you know once what you just said,

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Speaker 2: and the family, if you absorbed and connected with brother

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Speaker 2: Tony just said, all the stuff that should go around

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Speaker 2: that's going around you. It doesn't matter. You don't trip.

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01:59:05,360 --> 01:59:07,800
Speaker 2: It's just looking at it and you sort of smile sometimes.

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Speaker 2: But phill to Tony, explain that part for us.

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Speaker 10: So so Carled, you know what's so critically important to

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Speaker 10: me for having done this work for for fifty years.

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Speaker 10: You know my latest book, my latest book is a

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Speaker 10: broader perspective, my fifty year Journey to Enlightenment. And I'm

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Speaker 10: so glad to hear my commercial on the show at

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Speaker 10: the first commercial break, because that's my way of investing

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Speaker 10: in wwol Man, because you all have invested in me.

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Speaker 10: You've given me this platform and this opportunity to share

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01:59:41,640 --> 01:59:44,720
Speaker 10: my knowledge and have an obligation to invest back in

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Speaker 10: the station that is given to me. That's reciprocity, that's

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Speaker 10: my eye that's creating, that's generating positive power or paying

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Speaker 10: it forward. And so once you understand these principles that

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Speaker 10: the life gives back to you which you give to it.

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Speaker 10: And so life is also about knowing what life is. Right,

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Speaker 10: let me repeat that life is also knowing what life is.

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Speaker 10: And so one of the statements that I talk about

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Speaker 10: is I discussed my book now I've been on a

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Speaker 10: book toial for the past couple of months, is the

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Speaker 10: three most important days in your life are the day

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Speaker 10: you were born, the day you realize why you were born,

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Speaker 10: and thirdly, the day that you realize that you've been

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Speaker 10: born again. Now that may rock some people, the fact

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Speaker 10: that you've been born again, and I don't mean born

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Speaker 10: again in the Christian context, I mean born again in

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Speaker 10: the ancient African understanding that the body is temporary, but

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Speaker 10: the spirit is eternal. Spirit comes back in different bodies.

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Speaker 10: And so the whole idea of the weighing of the

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Speaker 10: soul opposite the feather vyatt is to to allow that

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Speaker 10: soul to revisit its life. And it takes forty days

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Speaker 10: from the time that a person dies for that soul

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Speaker 10: to free itself from its body, which is no longer

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Speaker 10: of use to it, and then that soul has to

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Speaker 10: revisit its life.

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Speaker 4: What have I done?

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Speaker 10: And there's a forty day process of revision, and then

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Speaker 10: after that forty days, then that soul and there are

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Speaker 10: images and many tombs and temples and commit where you

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Speaker 10: see Impood leading the soula that has ceased into the

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Speaker 10: Hall of Mid where their soul is weighed opposite the

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Speaker 10: feather of Mid and they have to declare their innocence

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Speaker 10: by reciting the declarations of Innocence or the forty two

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Speaker 10: adminuitions of mind. This is African knowledge car that is

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Speaker 10: over six thousand years old, that predates the New Testament,

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Speaker 10: the Old Testament and the Quran. Excuse me, this is

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Speaker 10: knowledge that Africans have understood and documented and left for

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Speaker 10: all humanity. And so the understanding is after your life

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Speaker 10: is revisited, vin Jahouti, who is the netter or the

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Speaker 10: aspect of the creative principle, will record this decision in

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Speaker 10: the Book of Judgment. So this Africans had a book

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Speaker 10: of judgment before the Jews had a book of judgment.

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Speaker 4: And then Herou, the son of.

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Speaker 10: The resurrected God, takes the hand of this vindicated soul

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Speaker 10: that has been found true voice and leads that soul

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Speaker 10: to his father who is sitting on the throne of Judgment,

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Speaker 10: and so that scene, that image of the son of

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Speaker 10: God taking the souls to his father is reminiscent of

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Speaker 10: the verse in the Bible, and no one comes to

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Speaker 10: the Father except through me. I'll come back after the

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Speaker 10: break and.

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Speaker 2: Give you the verse twenty three. Away from the top,

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Speaker 2: Tony Browner and the chematologists, you want to get eating

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Speaker 2: on this conversation, hit us up at eight hundred four

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Speaker 2: five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take your

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Speaker 2: phone calls next and grind Rising family, thanks for starting

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Speaker 2: your week. We listen our guest chemutologist, Tony Browner. Originally

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Speaker 2: we were going to talk about the significance of the

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Speaker 2: spring equinox, and we're going to get that in some point.

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Speaker 2: But before we go back to brother Tony, hey, do

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Speaker 2: us a favorite call up. A couple of friends are

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Speaker 2: telling that Tony brawn is on the radio. They'll thank

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Speaker 2: you for it later and later this week, we're in

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Speaker 2: here for medical doctor and scientist doctor Velvabo. She'll be

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Speaker 2: here also Baltimore civil rights activist Carl Snowden and grill

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Speaker 2: Baby La Mumma from the Moja House in Washington, DC.

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Speaker 2: Will check in and the founder of the Black Lawyers

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Speaker 2: for Justice, Attorney Malik Shabaz, will be here. So if

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Speaker 2: you're in Baltimore, tell all your folks to keep that

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Speaker 2: radio locked in tight on ten ten WLB or if

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Speaker 2: you're on the DMV, we're on fourteen fifty WOL. All right,

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Speaker 2: brother Tony, I let you finish your thought. We got

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Speaker 2: some folks got questions for you already, but I'll let

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Speaker 2: you finish.

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Speaker 4: Your thoughts for us.

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Speaker 10: Great Well, the thing that I described from the wing

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Speaker 10: of the soul, where the vindicated soul, who's firund true voice,

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Speaker 10: who has not lied, who has lived up to the

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Speaker 10: forty two declarations of Nicis, is led by the son

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Speaker 10: of the resurrected God, Herou to his father who is

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Speaker 10: seated on the throne ad judgment. And that scene, that

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Speaker 10: image which was created thousands of years before the Old

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Speaker 10: Testament and the New Testament and the Kuran. That scene

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Speaker 10: is recorded in the Bible in the New Testament John

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Speaker 10: fourteen six, where it says no one comes to the

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Speaker 10: Father except through me. So like your good friend Mark

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Speaker 10: from Anaheim always says, I would not lie to you.

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Speaker 10: I'm telling you what I know, And I share with

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Speaker 10: you what I know based on study, based on research,

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Speaker 10: and I will always share my sources with you so

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Speaker 10: that you can vet what I'm saying and you realize

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Speaker 10: that this is not Tony Barder just making this up.

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Speaker 10: This is Tony Broder, who's done the work, who's done

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Speaker 10: the research, and I'm making this information available to those

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Speaker 10: who want to know. I share with you my sources

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Speaker 10: so that you can read and get it additional information.

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Speaker 10: And with regards to that whole process of reading, getting

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Speaker 10: knowledge and getting the power and the wealth that is

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Speaker 10: associated with knowledge, then we also want to remind people

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Speaker 10: of Proverbs four seventh, Wisdom is the principal thing. Therefore,

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Speaker 10: get wisdom, and with all that getting yet understanding, So

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Speaker 10: it's not it's more than just getting information. Just to

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Speaker 10: get information, we have to understand where it came from.

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Speaker 10: You have to understand how to use it. And you

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Speaker 10: also have to understand how your enemy, those people who

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Speaker 10: stole your ancestors, who sold your ancestors, who beat, raped,

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02:05:42,960 --> 02:05:46,520
Speaker 10: and lynched your ancestors and made their lives hell, you

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Speaker 10: have to begin to understand why they would give you

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Speaker 10: a religion that would keep you locked in looking for

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Speaker 10: wealth and prosperity and happiness and peace in the act

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Speaker 10: the life instead of getting it now. So you have

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Speaker 10: to ask these hard questions and you have to be

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Speaker 10: willing to accept the answers that you find, and so

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Speaker 10: the other thing and then we can get back to

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Speaker 10: the other questions or move the conversation forward. We talked

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Speaker 10: about karma and the curse on the Kennedys. We talked

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Speaker 10: about karma and the curse is going to befall the

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Speaker 10: Trump family. We also need to understand karma and the

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Speaker 10: curse that's going to befall the founding fathers of the

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Speaker 10: United States of America as we're prepare to celebrate the

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Speaker 10: two hundred and fifty birthday of this country. You know,

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Speaker 10: America was not set up as a democracy. America was

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Speaker 10: a slave ococracy where a handful of wealthy men wrote

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Speaker 10: the constitution that stated that only wealthy white men who

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Speaker 10: own property could engage in and the wealth generating opportunities

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02:07:03,160 --> 02:07:06,160
Speaker 10: that they were creating, and that yes, you can own

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Speaker 10: black people to accumulate more wealth. That's a crime agist humanity,

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Speaker 10: that's a crime against God. And they are paying the

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Speaker 10: price for that right now with the current occupants of

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Speaker 10: the White House. They are the most illiterate. They are

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Speaker 10: the most evil administration that we've that I've seen in

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Speaker 10: my lifetime, and they have destroyed American credibility all around

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Speaker 10: the world. And this current war that is going on

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Speaker 10: in Iran, they made the mistakes of thinking that it

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Speaker 10: will be over in a minute. But these Iranians they

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02:07:46,120 --> 02:07:50,360
Speaker 10: got something for them, and this is going to be

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Speaker 10: a long drawn off conflict that's going to create dissension

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Speaker 10: within the Maga movement and all. We were already seeing it,

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Speaker 10: but it's going to worsen the because that's the karma

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Speaker 10: that they've generated for themselves. It's one thing for the

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Speaker 10: enemies of America, so called terrorists, to want vengeance against

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Speaker 10: what America has.

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Speaker 4: Done to them.

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Speaker 10: It's another thing when Americans, white Americans want retribution for

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Speaker 10: how they've been lied to. They've been lied to because

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Speaker 10: they've been told that there will be no more wards.

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Speaker 10: They've been lied to because they were told that the

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Speaker 10: gas prices are going to go down and inflation is

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Speaker 10: going to go down. They're beginning to see now that

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Speaker 10: these folk in power don't care about you, just like

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Speaker 10: they don't care about people of color and African people

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Speaker 10: and others. So when these white folks realize that they've

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Speaker 10: been played, that they've been had, that they've been lied

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Speaker 10: to like everybody else has been lied to, they don't

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Speaker 10: get upset. And ain't nothing worse than an upset white

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Speaker 10: man with a gun with an age forty seven. And

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Speaker 10: when they start fighting on each other, we need to

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Speaker 10: know what to do to step back because this ain't

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Speaker 10: our fight. Let them do whatever it is that they

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Speaker 10: have to do, and position theirselves to be ready to

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Speaker 10: pick up the pieces and rebuild as we have always rebuilt,

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Speaker 10: because that's that's our nature, that's what historically what African

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Speaker 10: people have always done, and our clothes in this note.

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Speaker 10: And Europeans knew that when they stole us, they didn't

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Speaker 10: just steal illiterate, impoverished people from Africa. They stole brick masons,

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Speaker 10: they stole carpenters, they stole rice farmers, they stole tobacco farmers,

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Speaker 10: they stole steal men and women and use them to

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Speaker 10: build what is now the wealthy and wealthy is the

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Speaker 10: most prosperous nation in human history. So they knew exactly

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Speaker 10: what they're doing, and then they erased our men, so

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Speaker 10: we wouldn't know who we were and what we had done.

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Speaker 10: In Africa the calls folk to turn our world upside down.

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Speaker 10: But those those days of changing. We're coming into a

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Speaker 10: new era of consciousness, Carl, and for those people who

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Speaker 10: are ready, there will be opportunities for us to move

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Speaker 10: forward like we have not moved forward before.

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Speaker 2: All right, ten away from the top of Stands calling

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Speaker 2: from Chicago, has a question for you online one Grand

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Speaker 2: Rising standing on with Tony Browner.

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Speaker 14: Grand Rising, Carl Grand Rising and Tony Broader and Grand

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Speaker 14: Rising family. Tony, you want to thank you for when

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Speaker 14: you were in Chicago inviting me to those events where

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Speaker 14: you were speaking. That was very awesome, great work that

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Speaker 14: you're doing. And again just thank you for holding the

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02:10:49,560 --> 02:10:52,480
Speaker 14: light as it relates to the spirit and the soul,

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02:10:52,640 --> 02:10:55,800
Speaker 14: the car and the ba does everything that emanates in

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Speaker 14: life form. Here come with the soul and can you

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02:10:59,160 --> 02:11:00,920
Speaker 14: speak a little bit of out you know when people

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Speaker 14: talk about you know that that actor or that athlete

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02:11:04,080 --> 02:11:08,080
Speaker 14: sold its soul? What does that mean as well? And

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Speaker 14: then one last point on karma, hold on, hold.

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Speaker 10: On, one second, hold on one second. Stand I didn't understand, uh,

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Speaker 10: the last part of that question, you said an actor

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Speaker 10: or an athlete.

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Speaker 4: And it's so I understand what you were saying. You know,

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Speaker 4: somebody sold their soul when they sell this, So got it.

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Speaker 4: I got it. Sure.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, So those two people I don't want to get confused.

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Speaker 14: I can save the follow up and if you have

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Speaker 14: more time on the column.

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Speaker 4: Well, well thank you.

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Speaker 10: Yes, Stan is a brother who listens to your show regularly, Carl,

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02:11:40,440 --> 02:11:42,520
Speaker 10: and he had emailed me about something and I just

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02:11:42,640 --> 02:11:44,160
Speaker 10: happened to let him know that I was going to

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Speaker 10: be in Chicago that weekend. It was the last month,

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Speaker 10: and the mayor of Chicago acknowledged my work, which is

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Speaker 10: always good to be acknowledged by your people in your hometown,

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Speaker 10: especially when it's a black mayor from the West Side

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Speaker 10: of Chicago.

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Speaker 4: So that was a that was a great honor.

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Speaker 10: Well, the aspect of the of the soul, the Bay

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Speaker 10: and the cop are significant because the first people to

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Speaker 10: document the soul and the spirit with African people in

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Speaker 10: the Nile body. They understood that everything has a soul,

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Speaker 10: and the soul is a life force that that animates

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Speaker 10: a body, whether it's human beings or animals, there's a

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Speaker 10: soul force and that soul force is the container with

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02:12:33,960 --> 02:12:39,400
Speaker 10: which spirit then fuse in order to give life to

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Speaker 10: that that that being, that creature, whether it's man, whether

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02:12:45,320 --> 02:12:50,280
Speaker 10: it's a bird, whether it's a cow or a horse. Right,

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02:12:50,400 --> 02:12:56,640
Speaker 10: so all of these creatures has a spirit or energy

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02:12:56,760 --> 02:12:58,960
Speaker 10: that moves through it. That's one of the reasons why

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Speaker 10: in the now Valley when I stressed in ourbiality, I'm

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02:13:02,560 --> 02:13:07,080
Speaker 10: talking about Ethiopia, I'm talking about cush and Kimid. So

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Speaker 10: within the Nour Valley, this knowledge was taught. And so

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Speaker 10: the principles or aspects of divinity or the Creator or guide,

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Speaker 10: if you want to use that term, they all have

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Speaker 10: an aspect of the Creator in them, and they were

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Speaker 10: referred to as meture. And so there was an aspect

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Speaker 10: of the Creator within birds, there was an aspect of

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02:13:30,480 --> 02:13:33,160
Speaker 10: the Creator within animals. There was an aspect of the

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02:13:33,240 --> 02:13:36,880
Speaker 10: Creator within human beings, and so they were referred to

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Speaker 10: as meture, and so there were these many Meture represents

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02:13:41,640 --> 02:13:46,720
Speaker 10: the many aspects of the one Creator that expresses themselves

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Speaker 10: within our environment, within nature, and the word nature is

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02:13:52,000 --> 02:13:55,600
Speaker 10: derived from the word metu. So we're really living a

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02:13:56,200 --> 02:14:00,640
Speaker 10: now value life without understanding its noile value. Origins, and

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02:14:00,760 --> 02:14:04,160
Speaker 10: that's intentional because we've been miseducated that information that's been

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Speaker 10: with held from us. So with regards to your question

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02:14:07,560 --> 02:14:13,839
Speaker 10: about an athlete or a actor or a musician selling

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Speaker 10: their soul. So we just recently saw Ryan Coogler's film

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Speaker 10: incredible film Centers, which is about a blues the Delta Blues.

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Speaker 10: Musicians and those who are familiar with the Delta Blues

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02:14:29,120 --> 02:14:32,240
Speaker 10: heard the story about Robert Johnson who met the devil

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Speaker 10: at the cross Rolls and sold his soul to the

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Speaker 10: devil so that he would have the capacity to make

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Speaker 10: this incredible music. Now, this is a myth, this is

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02:14:41,960 --> 02:14:47,480
Speaker 10: a metaphor because the cross Rods represents adjunction in a

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Speaker 10: person's life where you have to decide where your next steps.

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Speaker 4: Are going to lead. And those next steps are going

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02:14:55,080 --> 02:14:55,360
Speaker 4: to be.

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Speaker 10: The calls that will produce specific effects that will determine

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02:14:59,800 --> 02:15:03,920
Speaker 10: your of life in that particular lifetime. And so some

2413
02:15:04,120 --> 02:15:09,560
Speaker 10: people don't understand how these laws work. They don't understand

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02:15:09,680 --> 02:15:12,160
Speaker 10: how my art works. And this is a We live

2415
02:15:12,200 --> 02:15:15,880
Speaker 10: in a reciprocal environment where you get back those things

2416
02:15:15,960 --> 02:15:18,120
Speaker 10: that you know that you put out into the universe

2417
02:15:18,360 --> 02:15:21,160
Speaker 10: to amplified and come back to you ten fold. So

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02:15:21,320 --> 02:15:24,920
Speaker 10: those who don't know those lessons and understand those lessons

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02:15:25,160 --> 02:15:29,440
Speaker 10: will have an empty soul. Their life will be meaningless,

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02:15:29,520 --> 02:15:34,040
Speaker 10: their life will be mired and positive and misery and illness.

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02:15:34,480 --> 02:15:37,760
Speaker 10: And so they sometimes will make a deal with a

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Speaker 10: negative force, an evil force, or destructive ancestral forces, to say,

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02:15:44,080 --> 02:15:47,200
Speaker 10: give me some of your power so that I can

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02:15:47,400 --> 02:15:51,640
Speaker 10: have notoriety, so that I can have money, I can

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02:15:51,720 --> 02:15:54,280
Speaker 10: have fame, I can have all of these things that

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02:15:54,440 --> 02:15:57,760
Speaker 10: make me feel good. I sell my soul and get

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02:15:57,840 --> 02:16:02,280
Speaker 10: those things. And there's always a price to be paid

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02:16:02,400 --> 02:16:06,400
Speaker 10: for making that deal. It's referred to in mythology as

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Speaker 10: a Fastian.

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02:16:07,280 --> 02:16:09,360
Speaker 4: Deal or a deal with the devil.

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Speaker 10: And the devil in this context is the negative or

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02:16:14,400 --> 02:16:19,240
Speaker 10: life debilitating forces of creation. There's only one force. There's

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02:16:19,280 --> 02:16:22,440
Speaker 10: only one creative force. When you use it in a

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02:16:22,800 --> 02:16:27,960
Speaker 10: life affirming way, it's identified as God. When you use

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02:16:28,040 --> 02:16:32,480
Speaker 10: it in a destructive way, that same force is identified

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02:16:32,640 --> 02:16:36,440
Speaker 10: as the devil, or good and evil. There's one force,

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02:16:37,480 --> 02:16:41,120
Speaker 10: and your knowledge of the existence of that force and

2438
02:16:41,280 --> 02:16:45,800
Speaker 10: how that force expresses itself through life, through the universe,

2439
02:16:46,280 --> 02:16:50,680
Speaker 10: through life, and through your life determines whether or not

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02:16:51,440 --> 02:16:58,560
Speaker 10: one experiences heaven or hell or on earth in this lifetime.

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02:16:59,080 --> 02:17:05,360
Speaker 10: Heaven and are concepts. They are concepts that are experienced

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02:17:05,840 --> 02:17:10,360
Speaker 10: by human beings here on the earthly plane. And so

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02:17:10,840 --> 02:17:15,520
Speaker 10: the whole purpose of education in the Nile Valley was

2444
02:17:15,600 --> 02:17:20,120
Speaker 10: to teach human beings, to teach children, to teach communities

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02:17:20,680 --> 02:17:24,800
Speaker 10: this knowledge so that people can make a conscious choice

2446
02:17:25,280 --> 02:17:28,320
Speaker 10: to do good for good's sake, because the goodness that

2447
02:17:28,440 --> 02:17:30,320
Speaker 10: you do will come back to you, It will come

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02:17:30,400 --> 02:17:33,320
Speaker 10: back to your community, it will come back to your family,

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02:17:33,680 --> 02:17:37,600
Speaker 10: and it will be multiplied out across generations. So if

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02:17:37,680 --> 02:17:42,039
Speaker 10: we understand what I said that the most important days

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02:17:42,160 --> 02:17:44,320
Speaker 10: in the days in a person's life is to realize

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02:17:44,360 --> 02:17:46,880
Speaker 10: that you've been born again. If you realize that the

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02:17:46,959 --> 02:17:49,240
Speaker 10: body is temporary, but the soul is the ternal, the

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02:17:49,320 --> 02:17:52,080
Speaker 10: soul comes back, and the quality of life that the

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02:17:52,160 --> 02:17:56,000
Speaker 10: soul experiences when it returns is based on the good

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02:17:56,120 --> 02:17:58,880
Speaker 10: work or the negative work that you did in the

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02:17:58,959 --> 02:18:02,800
Speaker 10: prior lifetime, and that sets up what you are experiencing

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02:18:02,879 --> 02:18:05,800
Speaker 10: right now in this life and what you will experience

2459
02:18:05,879 --> 02:18:08,240
Speaker 10: in the lives to come. So this idea of being

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02:18:08,400 --> 02:18:12,240
Speaker 10: born again is not a Christian concept. It's not a

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02:18:12,520 --> 02:18:15,800
Speaker 10: Jewish concept. It is a concept that comes out of Africa,

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02:18:16,120 --> 02:18:18,320
Speaker 10: which is one of the reasons why people would say

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02:18:18,480 --> 02:18:22,560
Speaker 10: Grand Rising because when the sun rises, that is the

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02:18:22,680 --> 02:18:25,320
Speaker 10: sun being born again. That is a metaphor for you,

2465
02:18:25,800 --> 02:18:28,720
Speaker 10: being born again. Each day is an opportunity to do

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02:18:28,879 --> 02:18:31,120
Speaker 10: you better. I continue after the break car.

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Speaker 2: All right, three away from the top of our family.

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02:18:33,520 --> 02:18:35,160
Speaker 2: As you mentioned, we got to take a break so

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02:18:35,200 --> 02:18:38,080
Speaker 2: our stations can identify themselves down the line per the FCC.

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02:18:38,520 --> 02:18:40,800
Speaker 2: You want to join our conversation with brother Tony Browner,

2471
02:18:40,920 --> 02:18:43,039
Speaker 2: reach out to us at eight hundred four five zero

2472
02:18:43,640 --> 02:18:46,080
Speaker 2: seventy eight seventy six and we'll take your phone calls

2473
02:18:46,240 --> 02:18:48,840
Speaker 2: next and Grand Rising family, thanks for staying with us

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02:18:49,040 --> 02:18:52,640
Speaker 2: on this Monday morning. Here, I guess Tony Browner chematologist.

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02:18:52,840 --> 02:18:54,400
Speaker 2: Brother Tony, I'll let you finish your thought.

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02:18:55,959 --> 02:18:57,640
Speaker 10: I think our friends is the talk car, so we

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02:18:57,680 --> 02:18:59,760
Speaker 10: can move forward. Either take the next call or we

2478
02:18:59,800 --> 02:19:02,119
Speaker 10: could talk about the reason why you invited me on theater.

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02:19:02,760 --> 02:19:04,920
Speaker 2: Right, all right, let's let's say the next the next

2480
02:19:05,000 --> 02:19:07,680
Speaker 2: two calls, and then we'll get to that. Raymond's first,

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02:19:07,720 --> 02:19:10,520
Speaker 2: he's calling from Capitol Hill. He's online too, Raymonds. Your

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02:19:10,560 --> 02:19:12,320
Speaker 2: question for a brother, Tony Browner.

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02:19:15,280 --> 02:19:18,920
Speaker 12: Bid Gorne and thank you for taking my call. I

2484
02:19:19,080 --> 02:19:24,440
Speaker 12: want to know how can I break the shackles off

2485
02:19:24,480 --> 02:19:30,640
Speaker 12: of my mind from being in prison for decades. I

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02:19:30,800 --> 02:19:37,520
Speaker 12: came home from prison in twenty seventeen of February. All

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02:19:37,600 --> 02:19:42,160
Speaker 12: my family died while I was in concerrated. I managed

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02:19:42,200 --> 02:19:46,640
Speaker 12: to get on my feet. From now sixty six years old,

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02:19:46,800 --> 02:19:50,480
Speaker 12: i'd be sixty seven in December, I finally got a

2490
02:19:50,520 --> 02:19:55,920
Speaker 12: good job on Capitol Hill. I finally got a book

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02:19:58,240 --> 02:20:03,400
Speaker 12: apartment on Capitol Hill, and I went into a silent

2492
02:20:03,520 --> 02:20:10,880
Speaker 12: hustle from working on Capitol Hill selling Trump hats to

2493
02:20:11,080 --> 02:20:16,440
Speaker 12: his Monaco supporters. I realized from working on Capitol Hill

2494
02:20:17,040 --> 02:20:21,160
Speaker 12: how crazy they were about Trump, So I went and

2495
02:20:21,240 --> 02:20:25,960
Speaker 12: bought some about five thousand hats wholesale from China, and

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02:20:26,080 --> 02:20:29,680
Speaker 12: I made one hundred outs. I made one hundred thousand

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02:20:29,760 --> 02:20:36,400
Speaker 12: dollars off of them because I realized they like worshiped Trump,

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02:20:37,120 --> 02:20:39,680
Speaker 12: and I sold it to them. I bought the handspike

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02:20:40,320 --> 02:20:45,000
Speaker 12: two dollars apiece and sold them to Trump's supporters for

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02:20:45,200 --> 02:20:49,560
Speaker 12: like fifty dollars apiece on the National Mall, and I

2501
02:20:49,680 --> 02:20:52,680
Speaker 12: made over one hundred thousand dollars. I couldn't believe it,

2502
02:20:54,080 --> 02:20:59,680
Speaker 12: and I took that money and started another business far

2503
02:20:59,720 --> 02:21:03,640
Speaker 12: as the vending truck. But I'm afraid to spend the money.

2504
02:21:04,400 --> 02:21:08,480
Speaker 12: The money is just sitting there, uh, in my safety

2505
02:21:08,560 --> 02:21:12,920
Speaker 12: positive box. And I've gone on trips, but I seem

2506
02:21:13,000 --> 02:21:17,560
Speaker 12: to be stuck in my prison mindset of not being free.

2507
02:21:18,040 --> 02:21:18,440
Speaker 4: Mentally.

2508
02:21:19,160 --> 02:21:23,200
Speaker 12: I know I'm free physically and my hard work. And

2509
02:21:24,120 --> 02:21:27,320
Speaker 12: I went back to school when I got out and

2510
02:21:27,440 --> 02:21:31,400
Speaker 12: got a PAYL grant and got my bachelor's degree. So

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02:21:31,480 --> 02:21:34,560
Speaker 12: I was very grateful to get this little uh support

2512
02:21:34,800 --> 02:21:43,480
Speaker 12: job on Capitol Hill. Uh, But I realized mentally, I'm

2513
02:21:43,520 --> 02:21:48,880
Speaker 12: still in prison, and it shows to my aggressiveness sometimes

2514
02:21:49,440 --> 02:21:52,520
Speaker 12: when I communicate to people and.

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02:21:52,640 --> 02:21:58,040
Speaker 2: I just want to know, all right, right, thanks thanks

2516
02:21:58,080 --> 02:22:01,160
Speaker 2: for having let me give him to respond.

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Speaker 4: Brother Raymond, you made my day. Man, You made my day.

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02:22:05,240 --> 02:22:09,480
Speaker 4: So your ask is simple. Your ask is very easy.

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02:22:09,560 --> 02:22:13,360
Speaker 10: I would recommend you get a copy because you got

2520
02:22:13,400 --> 02:22:18,880
Speaker 10: the money. Now you purchase a copy Brother naim Ogbar's book,

2521
02:22:19,320 --> 02:22:23,560
Speaker 10: Breaking the Chains and Images of Psychological Slavery. You said

2522
02:22:23,600 --> 02:22:27,400
Speaker 10: what your problem was? Naim Ogbar, over thirty years ago,

2523
02:22:27,440 --> 02:22:31,000
Speaker 10: wrote a book that lays out how to deal how

2524
02:22:31,080 --> 02:22:35,920
Speaker 10: to overcome that problem. I would also suggest, and I

2525
02:22:36,000 --> 02:22:38,840
Speaker 10: don't know if you heard doctor Willie Jolly who was

2526
02:22:38,879 --> 02:22:42,240
Speaker 10: on before me. He talked about the importance of wealth.

2527
02:22:42,280 --> 02:22:44,800
Speaker 10: I would recommend that you get his book and he

2528
02:22:45,040 --> 02:22:50,080
Speaker 10: lays out a black print on how you can put

2529
02:22:50,160 --> 02:22:53,120
Speaker 10: your money to good use for you to help you

2530
02:22:53,240 --> 02:22:57,120
Speaker 10: make money. He also referenced JR. Finwick who comes on

2531
02:22:57,360 --> 02:23:02,480
Speaker 10: WL who has programmed teaching you how to invest your money.

2532
02:23:02,680 --> 02:23:04,720
Speaker 10: But the most important thing that I would share with you,

2533
02:23:04,879 --> 02:23:07,760
Speaker 10: brother Raymond, is that you got a booking you, you

2534
02:23:07,879 --> 02:23:10,120
Speaker 10: got a story, you got to you got a half

2535
02:23:10,160 --> 02:23:14,480
Speaker 10: million dollars story in you. So when you write your story,

2536
02:23:14,680 --> 02:23:18,600
Speaker 10: get together with folks to write your story. Then you

2537
02:23:18,680 --> 02:23:22,760
Speaker 10: will help other people who've been in your same situation

2538
02:23:23,400 --> 02:23:26,680
Speaker 10: improve their quality of life. That will allow you to

2539
02:23:27,000 --> 02:23:30,800
Speaker 10: generate positive comma who to make your life better for

2540
02:23:30,879 --> 02:23:34,240
Speaker 10: the lifetime to come. You in an opportune position, brother

2541
02:23:34,760 --> 02:23:38,640
Speaker 10: to to to to move into a higher level of development.

2542
02:23:39,000 --> 02:23:39,680
Speaker 4: I'll give you my.

2543
02:23:39,840 --> 02:23:45,080
Speaker 10: Email address, broader Foul at yahoo dot com broader foul

2544
02:23:45,200 --> 02:23:47,080
Speaker 10: b R O W D E R S.

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02:23:47,240 --> 02:23:53,200
Speaker 12: I let me write down use use that brain and

2546
02:23:53,240 --> 02:23:54,000
Speaker 12: you'll use that brain.

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02:23:54,400 --> 02:23:55,720
Speaker 2: Right, I'll tell you what Rayn. We will put you

2548
02:23:55,840 --> 02:23:59,080
Speaker 2: on hold and Kevin will give you that information. We'll

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02:23:59,120 --> 02:24:00,680
Speaker 2: put you on hold because we're we got to move

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02:24:00,720 --> 02:24:04,280
Speaker 2: on very much. Alrighty six half the top. There are

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02:24:04,400 --> 02:24:06,440
Speaker 2: eight hundred and four or five zero seventy eight to

2552
02:24:06,560 --> 02:24:09,240
Speaker 2: seventy six. Race calling from Miami has a question for

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02:24:09,360 --> 02:24:12,360
Speaker 2: You's online three, Grand Rising, Ray. Your question for Tony

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02:24:12,400 --> 02:24:18,440
Speaker 2: Browner is brother Ray there on line three.

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02:24:20,080 --> 02:24:20,440
Speaker 4: I'm here.

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02:24:21,200 --> 02:24:22,520
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, go ahead, brother Ray.

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02:24:23,280 --> 02:24:26,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, Tony, this is a Ray put.

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02:24:28,280 --> 02:24:28,600
Speaker 4: All right.

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02:24:28,680 --> 02:24:31,959
Speaker 10: Now, we have a terrible connection. We have a terrible connection.

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02:24:32,520 --> 02:24:35,440
Speaker 10: So make it concise and make it clear.

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Speaker 6: Okay. I first don't want to say God bless you

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02:24:40,280 --> 02:24:44,360
Speaker 6: for your work. I remember you and your mother, your

2563
02:24:44,600 --> 02:24:50,240
Speaker 6: wonderful mother. You bet with Baptist Church Washington. Course of

2564
02:24:50,400 --> 02:24:54,040
Speaker 6: the work that you are doing, and it makes my

2565
02:24:54,440 --> 02:24:57,400
Speaker 6: soule risk and I know that they are young people

2566
02:24:57,560 --> 02:25:00,440
Speaker 6: like you, and if you're influencing your daughter and the

2567
02:25:00,520 --> 02:25:03,840
Speaker 6: other young people to do your work, this is what

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02:25:04,000 --> 02:25:05,800
Speaker 6: we need to do, is pass it down so that

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02:25:05,920 --> 02:25:10,240
Speaker 6: we can continue our ride. You're right, Grand Rising, my brother,

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02:25:10,760 --> 02:25:12,560
Speaker 6: That's why we're going to do this thing the king

2571
02:25:13,320 --> 02:25:16,080
Speaker 6: direction which they are trying to take us. So I

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02:25:16,160 --> 02:25:18,040
Speaker 6: appreciate you man. I just want to say it that

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02:25:18,240 --> 02:25:22,080
Speaker 6: you know, and I know that Walter is very proud

2574
02:25:22,200 --> 02:25:25,320
Speaker 6: of the work that you're doing when I speak with him,

2575
02:25:25,680 --> 02:25:26,640
Speaker 6: I definitely do.

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02:25:27,400 --> 02:25:29,800
Speaker 4: But I heard today. So just God bless your man

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02:25:29,920 --> 02:25:33,200
Speaker 4: and keeping out well. Thank you, thank you.

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02:25:33,440 --> 02:25:37,320
Speaker 10: And that was Ray Frontroy brother Walter Frontroy, and it's

2579
02:25:37,360 --> 02:25:40,160
Speaker 10: interesting and thank you for your your comments. Thank you

2580
02:25:40,240 --> 02:25:45,720
Speaker 10: for and Tony my mother's name. My mother's birthday was

2581
02:25:45,800 --> 02:25:48,199
Speaker 10: last Wednesday. She would have been ninety one years old.

2582
02:25:48,680 --> 02:25:52,480
Speaker 10: I was in Montgomery, Alabama a few weeks ago and

2583
02:25:52,800 --> 02:25:57,280
Speaker 10: talking to a firefire Rose Sanders what we were talking

2584
02:25:57,440 --> 02:26:01,200
Speaker 10: and while we were together, she's a phone call from

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02:26:01,240 --> 02:26:04,119
Speaker 10: a woman and fire happened to mention, you know, I'm

2586
02:26:04,160 --> 02:26:07,160
Speaker 10: with Tony Browder. Oh I know this mother, Anne Browder,

2587
02:26:07,840 --> 02:26:11,119
Speaker 10: I was the choir director at New Bethel Baptist Church

2588
02:26:11,200 --> 02:26:13,080
Speaker 10: and my mom was in the choir, and she started

2589
02:26:13,160 --> 02:26:17,199
Speaker 10: telling stories about how she brought She ran the after

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02:26:17,280 --> 02:26:21,520
Speaker 10: school program at New Bethel and bought my daughter's book

2591
02:26:21,520 --> 02:26:24,920
Speaker 10: at lands this book and encouraged the other parents at

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02:26:25,160 --> 02:26:29,000
Speaker 10: unit at New Bethel to purchase the book for their children.

2593
02:26:29,280 --> 02:26:33,000
Speaker 10: So you completed the circle. Ray, I appreciate you and

2594
02:26:33,160 --> 02:26:35,880
Speaker 10: I trust you doing well and get my best to

2595
02:26:37,040 --> 02:26:39,360
Speaker 10: your brother as well. Man, love you, respect you, and

2596
02:26:39,400 --> 02:26:40,560
Speaker 10: appreciate you my friend.

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02:26:41,360 --> 02:26:45,640
Speaker 2: All right ten after that, top thanks brother Ray. Originally

2598
02:26:45,720 --> 02:26:52,680
Speaker 2: we had those conversations about the relationship between the the equinox,

2599
02:26:53,120 --> 02:26:56,720
Speaker 2: the spring equinox, and this relationship to the moon and

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02:26:56,840 --> 02:27:01,240
Speaker 2: the Holy Week and for Christians, Tony and we finally

2601
02:27:01,280 --> 02:27:03,160
Speaker 2: get on top of here, but go ahead.

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02:27:03,040 --> 02:27:06,440
Speaker 10: And explain that for us, well we should, Carl and

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02:27:07,160 --> 02:27:10,240
Speaker 10: like I always do when I come on the show,

2604
02:27:10,280 --> 02:27:13,600
Speaker 10: and I appreciate the format. You know, I appreciate you

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02:27:13,800 --> 02:27:19,920
Speaker 10: and Carl, you and Kevin, you know, taking this professorial

2606
02:27:20,120 --> 02:27:23,840
Speaker 10: position when it comes to introducing your guests and introducing

2607
02:27:23,879 --> 02:27:28,160
Speaker 10: your topics and treating it as if we're in a classroom,

2608
02:27:28,200 --> 02:27:28,840
Speaker 10: because we are.

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02:27:29,040 --> 02:27:30,360
Speaker 4: W L is a classroom.

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02:27:30,720 --> 02:27:33,320
Speaker 10: And so what I want to do in discussing the

2611
02:27:33,400 --> 02:27:38,360
Speaker 10: significance of the equinox, which was this past Friday, the

2612
02:27:38,440 --> 02:27:43,440
Speaker 10: spring equinox, I want to reference a source that your

2613
02:27:43,520 --> 02:27:48,320
Speaker 10: listeners can go to to get additional information. I wanted

2614
02:27:48,680 --> 02:27:51,240
Speaker 10: the text that I want to reference today is now

2615
02:27:51,360 --> 02:27:56,080
Speaker 10: Value Civilizations, part of the Journal of Asking Civilizations, which

2616
02:27:56,200 --> 02:27:59,280
Speaker 10: was edited by Ivanban Certima, and I want to reference

2617
02:27:59,360 --> 02:28:03,880
Speaker 10: an article written by acg heiliot My Jagna, and the

2618
02:28:04,040 --> 02:28:08,680
Speaker 10: article is titled Kinetic Concepts in Education as Heliot was

2619
02:28:09,480 --> 02:28:14,760
Speaker 10: an educational psychologist, and he presented this information at the

2620
02:28:14,879 --> 02:28:19,040
Speaker 10: Nile Valley Conference in September of nineteen eighty four, and

2621
02:28:19,160 --> 02:28:26,600
Speaker 10: he references this book that talks about the process of

2622
02:28:26,800 --> 02:28:32,480
Speaker 10: education and Kimmid information that was institutionalized and taught to

2623
02:28:32,879 --> 02:28:38,080
Speaker 10: everybody in this country. And he says that the temples,

2624
02:28:38,160 --> 02:28:41,720
Speaker 10: what we refer to as temples, were really universities, houses

2625
02:28:41,760 --> 02:28:45,040
Speaker 10: of knowledge, and that the faculty in these houses of

2626
02:28:45,120 --> 02:28:50,840
Speaker 10: knowledge were called her sespha her sepha or teachers of mysteries,

2627
02:28:51,280 --> 02:28:55,280
Speaker 10: and they were divided into departments, and the very first

2628
02:28:55,320 --> 02:28:56,160
Speaker 10: department is.

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02:28:56,760 --> 02:28:58,520
Speaker 4: Mystery Teachers of Heaven.

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02:28:59,480 --> 02:29:05,600
Speaker 10: Those teaches, those scholars who taught astronomy and astrology, so

2631
02:29:05,760 --> 02:29:08,960
Speaker 10: they taught the knowledge of the stars, the knowledge of

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02:29:09,040 --> 02:29:12,160
Speaker 10: the sun, the moon, and the heavens. So the information

2633
02:29:12,280 --> 02:29:14,040
Speaker 10: that I want to share with you and your listeners

2634
02:29:14,959 --> 02:29:23,320
Speaker 10: is information that was documented thousands of years ago, over

2635
02:29:23,480 --> 02:29:27,840
Speaker 10: seven thousand years ago and was passed down from father

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02:29:27,920 --> 02:29:30,680
Speaker 10: to son, from mother to daughter. And this is information

2637
02:29:30,800 --> 02:29:33,680
Speaker 10: that was utilized so that people would understand who they were,

2638
02:29:34,160 --> 02:29:37,440
Speaker 10: their relationship to their environment, so they can live the

2639
02:29:37,600 --> 02:29:41,760
Speaker 10: best lives possible. And so to talk about the equinox,

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02:29:41,760 --> 02:29:45,400
Speaker 10: the equinox is a Latin term that means equal nite,

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02:29:45,840 --> 02:29:47,760
Speaker 10: and so if we have equal nite, it means we

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02:29:47,879 --> 02:29:52,280
Speaker 10: also have equal day. So last Friday was the time

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02:29:52,400 --> 02:29:56,680
Speaker 10: of the equinox where we experienced twelve hours of daylight

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02:29:56,760 --> 02:30:00,200
Speaker 10: and twelve hours of nighttime. And so every day day

2645
02:30:00,520 --> 02:30:05,240
Speaker 10: the sun rises. Every day moving forward, the length of

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02:30:05,320 --> 02:30:09,040
Speaker 10: the day will increase by one minute per day, so

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02:30:09,200 --> 02:30:14,720
Speaker 10: the days will get longer until we reach the summer solstice,

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02:30:15,120 --> 02:30:18,320
Speaker 10: which will typically fall around the twenty first or the

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02:30:18,400 --> 02:30:22,160
Speaker 10: twenty second of June. The summer sosis is where we

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02:30:22,280 --> 02:30:25,920
Speaker 10: will have the longest day of the year, and then

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02:30:26,200 --> 02:30:30,840
Speaker 10: the Washington DC community will have approximately nineteen hours of sunlight.

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02:30:31,400 --> 02:30:35,080
Speaker 10: So then after the summer Sostice, after the four days

2653
02:30:35,120 --> 02:30:38,360
Speaker 10: of the summer sostice, when the sun is still after

2654
02:30:38,480 --> 02:30:41,640
Speaker 10: that fifth day, the length of the day will begin

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02:30:41,840 --> 02:30:46,080
Speaker 10: to shorten by a minute per day until we reach

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02:30:46,280 --> 02:30:50,400
Speaker 10: the fall equinox, and when we reach the fall equinox,

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02:30:50,440 --> 02:30:54,320
Speaker 10: which typically falls on September twenty first or September to

2658
02:30:54,400 --> 02:30:57,920
Speaker 10: twenty second, then we will have once again twelve hours

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02:30:58,000 --> 02:31:02,440
Speaker 10: of daylight twelve hours a night time, and then the

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02:31:02,600 --> 02:31:07,080
Speaker 10: days will continue to get shorter by approximately one minute

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02:31:07,120 --> 02:31:13,320
Speaker 10: per day until we reach the winter solstice, which again

2662
02:31:13,640 --> 02:31:17,920
Speaker 10: falls on December twenty first or twenty second, depending on

2663
02:31:18,000 --> 02:31:20,720
Speaker 10: whether or not we're in a leap year because it varies.

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02:31:21,240 --> 02:31:24,080
Speaker 10: And then during the four days of the winter Solis,

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02:31:24,400 --> 02:31:27,279
Speaker 10: the length of the day does not increased nor decreased,

2666
02:31:27,560 --> 02:31:31,199
Speaker 10: But then on the fifth day, December the twenty fifth,

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02:31:32,240 --> 02:31:35,320
Speaker 10: the days began to increase by a minute per day.

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02:31:35,480 --> 02:31:39,640
Speaker 10: So in ancient times seven thousand years ago, it was

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02:31:39,720 --> 02:31:44,600
Speaker 10: said that the sun was born on December the twenty fifth,

2670
02:31:45,080 --> 02:31:53,080
Speaker 10: and so religious holidays, Jewish holidays, Islamic holidays, and Christian

2671
02:31:53,520 --> 02:31:59,920
Speaker 10: holidays are tied to the calendar system. The educational system

2672
02:32:00,400 --> 02:32:03,360
Speaker 10: that African has developed in the Now Valley thousands of

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02:32:03,480 --> 02:32:07,240
Speaker 10: years ago, and what has happened since Egypt has been

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02:32:07,320 --> 02:32:10,800
Speaker 10: taken out of Africa. The knowledge has also been taken

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02:32:10,959 --> 02:32:15,119
Speaker 10: out of Africa, and it's been credited to other people.

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02:32:15,440 --> 02:32:20,120
Speaker 4: Who only took and understood fragments of the knowledge that

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02:32:20,200 --> 02:32:22,560
Speaker 4: they took out of Africa, and they used.

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02:32:22,400 --> 02:32:27,240
Speaker 10: That fragment to create new civilizations, new educational systems, and

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02:32:27,400 --> 02:32:31,440
Speaker 10: new religions which govern the world today. So my purpose

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02:32:31,600 --> 02:32:36,400
Speaker 10: for citing the ancient African sources is so that people

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02:32:36,480 --> 02:32:39,560
Speaker 10: who are willing can make a conscious choice to go

2682
02:32:39,720 --> 02:32:43,160
Speaker 10: to the original source material where the wealth of.

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02:32:43,240 --> 02:32:45,039
Speaker 4: Knowledge can still be found.

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02:32:45,080 --> 02:32:47,480
Speaker 10: That will help them negotiate life better. So that's the

2685
02:32:47,560 --> 02:32:53,400
Speaker 10: framework for the Equinox, But I wanted to also build

2686
02:32:53,480 --> 02:32:57,880
Speaker 10: on that framework and renate something that we all should

2687
02:32:57,879 --> 02:33:00,879
Speaker 10: have learned in elementary through something.

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02:33:00,920 --> 02:33:02,000
Speaker 4: That is so basic.

2689
02:33:02,480 --> 02:33:07,440
Speaker 10: The Earth has two distinct movements. The Earth rotates on

2690
02:33:07,600 --> 02:33:12,320
Speaker 10: its axis every twenty four hours, and that constitutes one day.

2691
02:33:12,440 --> 02:33:15,800
Speaker 10: So when you say grand rising is because the Earth

2692
02:33:15,920 --> 02:33:18,440
Speaker 10: is rotated on its axis and we now see the

2693
02:33:18,600 --> 02:33:23,120
Speaker 10: sun rise for another day, hence the phrase grand rising.

2694
02:33:23,680 --> 02:33:26,240
Speaker 10: As the Earth rotates on its axis, theyll be twenty

2695
02:33:26,280 --> 02:33:31,080
Speaker 10: four hours. It also revolves around the Sun, and it's

2696
02:33:31,200 --> 02:33:34,520
Speaker 10: this revolution of the Sun as it's rotating on its axis,

2697
02:33:34,640 --> 02:33:37,440
Speaker 10: revolution of the Earth as it rotates on its axis.

2698
02:33:37,680 --> 02:33:43,039
Speaker 10: While it revolves around the Sun. It does this within

2699
02:33:43,200 --> 02:33:47,120
Speaker 10: the course of three hundred and sixty five days, and

2700
02:33:47,320 --> 02:33:52,800
Speaker 10: that constitutes one year. Right, basic movements about the Earth

2701
02:33:53,200 --> 02:33:56,440
Speaker 10: and this relationship to the Sun and its movement through

2702
02:33:56,480 --> 02:34:00,320
Speaker 10: the cosmos, basic basic information. So, while the Earth is

2703
02:34:00,520 --> 02:34:05,959
Speaker 10: also rotating on its axis and revolving around the Sun,

2704
02:34:06,640 --> 02:34:10,680
Speaker 10: it wobbles on its axis during the revolution, and that

2705
02:34:10,879 --> 02:34:13,840
Speaker 10: wobbling of an axis, which is similar to you know,

2706
02:34:13,959 --> 02:34:16,520
Speaker 10: back in the day when we were children, we would

2707
02:34:16,600 --> 02:34:19,800
Speaker 10: have top spinning tops, right, and when you spin the

2708
02:34:19,920 --> 02:34:23,840
Speaker 10: top as it spins, it wobbles, it.

2709
02:34:24,400 --> 02:34:26,560
Speaker 4: Moves a little bit to the right and moves a little.

2710
02:34:26,360 --> 02:34:29,600
Speaker 10: Bit to the left as its spinning on its axis. Well,

2711
02:34:29,720 --> 02:34:32,880
Speaker 10: it's the wobbling of the Earth on its axis that

2712
02:34:33,040 --> 02:34:37,119
Speaker 10: gives us the four seasons that exposes us to more

2713
02:34:37,360 --> 02:34:43,400
Speaker 10: or less sunlight, which causes spring, summer, fall, and winter.

2714
02:34:43,840 --> 02:34:47,480
Speaker 10: And so this is a cosmic dance that the Earth

2715
02:34:47,840 --> 02:34:52,119
Speaker 10: is experiencing as it moves within our Milky Way galaxy.

2716
02:34:52,680 --> 02:34:59,080
Speaker 10: And so each season lasts ninety days. And so these seasons,

2717
02:34:59,120 --> 02:35:03,040
Speaker 10: as it says in the there are seasons and times

2718
02:35:03,160 --> 02:35:06,720
Speaker 10: for everything, and those seasons and times are determined by

2719
02:35:06,760 --> 02:35:10,760
Speaker 10: the Earth's relationship to the Sun and the other planets.

2720
02:35:11,080 --> 02:35:17,240
Speaker 10: So people astronomers and astrologers back at the time when

2721
02:35:17,360 --> 02:35:22,200
Speaker 10: astrology was recognized as a science and an art form,

2722
02:35:22,320 --> 02:35:24,360
Speaker 10: and it's not the joke that many people take it

2723
02:35:24,440 --> 02:35:28,879
Speaker 10: for today, you could determine the quality of your life

2724
02:35:29,760 --> 02:35:33,240
Speaker 10: based on the Earth's position relative to the Sun. So

2725
02:35:33,400 --> 02:35:37,560
Speaker 10: for example, we hit the spring equinize.

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02:35:37,600 --> 02:35:39,840
Speaker 2: Say you well, all the example right there, Tony, because

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02:35:39,840 --> 02:35:41,440
Speaker 2: the rest never sign for a few months. I'll let

2728
02:35:41,440 --> 02:35:43,040
Speaker 2: you pick it up when we get back eighteen minutes

2729
02:35:43,080 --> 02:35:46,080
Speaker 2: after the top of the our family, I guess this chemutologists,

2730
02:35:46,120 --> 02:35:50,279
Speaker 2: Brother Tony browdays unlocking the significance of the spring equinox.

2731
02:35:50,640 --> 02:35:52,680
Speaker 2: It was over the weekend. What are your thoughts eight

2732
02:35:52,800 --> 02:35:55,160
Speaker 2: hundred and four or five zero seventy eight seventy six.

2733
02:35:55,240 --> 02:35:57,119
Speaker 2: Speak to brother Tony and we'll take your phone calls

2734
02:35:57,360 --> 02:35:59,800
Speaker 2: next and grind rising family. If thanks for starting your

2735
02:36:00,160 --> 02:36:02,000
Speaker 2: with us this Monday morning with our guess that came

2736
02:36:02,040 --> 02:36:04,119
Speaker 2: of teal is Tony Brad and Tony Brown has showing

2737
02:36:04,200 --> 02:36:07,760
Speaker 2: us the relationship between the spring equinox to the moon

2738
02:36:07,800 --> 02:36:10,120
Speaker 2: and also Holy Week for Christians. So brother Tony, I'll

2739
02:36:10,160 --> 02:36:10,360
Speaker 2: let you.

2740
02:36:10,360 --> 02:36:14,160
Speaker 10: Finish your thought, sure, Carl, And just so your listeners

2741
02:36:14,200 --> 02:36:17,520
Speaker 10: can understand the relevance of what I'm talking about. I'm

2742
02:36:17,600 --> 02:36:20,920
Speaker 10: not just talking about ancient African history. I want to

2743
02:36:20,959 --> 02:36:24,560
Speaker 10: show the relevance of these concepts and ideas. So we

2744
02:36:24,760 --> 02:36:29,720
Speaker 10: just hit the spring equinox last Friday. We're now into

2745
02:36:29,800 --> 02:36:33,320
Speaker 10: the season, the spring. We're now witnessing lights come forth

2746
02:36:33,640 --> 02:36:34,640
Speaker 10: out of the black earth.

2747
02:36:34,879 --> 02:36:35,039
Speaker 3: Right.

2748
02:36:35,560 --> 02:36:40,400
Speaker 10: So, America, as I mentioned earlier in my conversation, it

2749
02:36:40,720 --> 02:36:45,240
Speaker 10: was a slave ocracy. America was built on the backs

2750
02:36:45,320 --> 02:36:50,960
Speaker 10: of the slaves African people and her founding fathers. Many

2751
02:36:51,000 --> 02:36:55,640
Speaker 10: of them were slaves owners, many of them had plantations,

2752
02:36:56,440 --> 02:36:59,320
Speaker 10: and many of them many of those plantations and slave

2753
02:36:59,400 --> 02:37:02,720
Speaker 10: owners happened to be presidents of the United States. So

2754
02:37:04,120 --> 02:37:07,400
Speaker 10: they needed people to plant the crops in order to

2755
02:37:08,120 --> 02:37:12,000
Speaker 10: grow the crops that would allow them to accumulate wealth

2756
02:37:12,120 --> 02:37:15,120
Speaker 10: and maintain their wealth. So America was based on the

2757
02:37:15,240 --> 02:37:22,000
Speaker 10: thegrarian society. After things shifted and Africans received the massipation

2758
02:37:22,640 --> 02:37:27,720
Speaker 10: that many of them were incarcerated and became sharecroppers. It

2759
02:37:27,840 --> 02:37:31,240
Speaker 10: was another form of slavery. So we lived in in

2760
02:37:31,360 --> 02:37:35,640
Speaker 10: the grarian society in the nineteenth and early twentieth century,

2761
02:37:36,000 --> 02:37:40,120
Speaker 10: so that the educational system that were designed by these

2762
02:37:40,280 --> 02:37:44,800
Speaker 10: people was based on people living in in the grarian society.

2763
02:37:45,320 --> 02:37:46,879
Speaker 4: So you were allowed to get.

2764
02:37:47,080 --> 02:37:50,680
Speaker 10: Enough education so that you would be a benefit to

2765
02:37:50,840 --> 02:37:58,279
Speaker 10: your employer. And so schools would have a spring break

2766
02:37:59,280 --> 02:38:03,520
Speaker 10: around this time so that the children and their parents

2767
02:38:03,879 --> 02:38:09,040
Speaker 10: would go into the fields to plant the seeds that

2768
02:38:09,160 --> 02:38:13,200
Speaker 10: would grow and would be harvested during the summertime. That's

2769
02:38:13,240 --> 02:38:15,840
Speaker 10: why school is out during the summer. So our whole

2770
02:38:16,000 --> 02:38:20,160
Speaker 10: educational system was based around in the Graririan society, and

2771
02:38:20,280 --> 02:38:23,160
Speaker 10: people were tools that were used by the wealthy to

2772
02:38:23,240 --> 02:38:26,120
Speaker 10: help them maintain their wealth. But now that things have

2773
02:38:26,320 --> 02:38:29,879
Speaker 10: shifted and we're moving away from the Gradian society into

2774
02:38:30,040 --> 02:38:34,960
Speaker 10: an information society, a technologically driven society, they don't need

2775
02:38:35,080 --> 02:38:38,640
Speaker 10: people anymore. That's why everything is being automated. That's why

2776
02:38:38,720 --> 02:38:39,360
Speaker 10: AI is.

2777
02:38:39,400 --> 02:38:40,160
Speaker 4: Coming to the fore.

2778
02:38:40,640 --> 02:38:42,640
Speaker 12: So people, they don't need us.

2779
02:38:42,640 --> 02:38:45,039
Speaker 10: To be economic slaves anymore.

2780
02:38:45,360 --> 02:38:46,720
Speaker 4: We're going to be replaced.

2781
02:38:47,120 --> 02:38:51,320
Speaker 10: So if you don't understand what is coming and preparing

2782
02:38:51,440 --> 02:38:56,080
Speaker 10: yourself to get ahead of the curve, you will be eliminated.

2783
02:38:56,160 --> 02:38:59,840
Speaker 10: You will be neutralized. So this knowledge of studying the star,

2784
02:39:00,280 --> 02:39:03,120
Speaker 10: this knowledge of studying the movement of the Earth's relative

2785
02:39:03,160 --> 02:39:05,600
Speaker 10: to the Sun and the moon and the heavens is

2786
02:39:05,680 --> 02:39:10,120
Speaker 10: how people determine their lives because it's a precise science.

2787
02:39:10,600 --> 02:39:16,960
Speaker 10: And so what leaders did was to create religions and

2788
02:39:17,160 --> 02:39:22,640
Speaker 10: then set up certain religious ceremonies that happened to coincide

2789
02:39:23,120 --> 02:39:28,160
Speaker 10: with specific celestial phenomenon so that people who believe in

2790
02:39:28,280 --> 02:39:35,040
Speaker 10: these religious practices would have their activities enhanced by what

2791
02:39:35,280 --> 02:39:40,240
Speaker 10: was happening in the heavens. So we're moving into this

2792
02:39:40,400 --> 02:39:44,920
Speaker 10: is spring now and we're moving towards Eastern Easter is

2793
02:39:45,480 --> 02:39:48,840
Speaker 10: I think April fifth this year. So what people should note,

2794
02:39:49,560 --> 02:39:52,680
Speaker 10: and I want them to understand this. What people should

2795
02:39:52,840 --> 02:39:57,520
Speaker 10: note is that we were told that Jesus was born

2796
02:39:58,160 --> 02:40:01,240
Speaker 10: on December the twenty fifth. For a point in fact,

2797
02:40:01,720 --> 02:40:05,240
Speaker 10: any theologian, any historian will tell you that people don't

2798
02:40:05,400 --> 02:40:08,600
Speaker 10: know the date that Jesus was born. December the twenty

2799
02:40:08,680 --> 02:40:11,880
Speaker 10: fifth was a date that was selected because that was

2800
02:40:11,920 --> 02:40:14,240
Speaker 10: the date that had been used for thousands of years

2801
02:40:14,280 --> 02:40:16,560
Speaker 10: before the birth of Jesus to celebrate the birth of

2802
02:40:16,640 --> 02:40:22,320
Speaker 10: the sun. And that's directly related to the winter solstice

2803
02:40:22,560 --> 02:40:24,879
Speaker 10: in the birth of the sun on December to twenty fifth,

2804
02:40:25,360 --> 02:40:29,720
Speaker 10: So we use that date to determine the birth or

2805
02:40:29,800 --> 02:40:32,680
Speaker 10: to celebrate the birth of Jesus of Christ. So Jesus

2806
02:40:32,959 --> 02:40:37,840
Speaker 10: died and was resurrected on Easter, but Easter is not

2807
02:40:38,160 --> 02:40:43,320
Speaker 10: the same date. Easter always changes from year to year.

2808
02:40:43,760 --> 02:40:44,400
Speaker 4: Why is that?

2809
02:40:45,040 --> 02:40:49,640
Speaker 10: It is because Easter is a metaphor for the resurretion

2810
02:40:50,080 --> 02:40:54,000
Speaker 10: resurrection of the power or the consciousness of the Creator

2811
02:40:54,240 --> 02:40:58,160
Speaker 10: within you human beings. Easter is what is referred to

2812
02:40:58,760 --> 02:41:01,600
Speaker 10: in the Catholic tradition and the Christian tradition as a

2813
02:41:01,879 --> 02:41:08,000
Speaker 10: movable feast. Easter is always Get this and understand this.

2814
02:41:08,840 --> 02:41:13,760
Speaker 10: Easter is always the first Sunday after the first full

2815
02:41:14,000 --> 02:41:19,560
Speaker 10: moon after the spring equinox. Let me repeat that Easter

2816
02:41:19,879 --> 02:41:25,480
Speaker 10: is always the first Sunday after the first full moon

2817
02:41:26,200 --> 02:41:30,280
Speaker 10: following the spring equinox. So in twenty twenty four, Easter

2818
02:41:30,480 --> 02:41:36,240
Speaker 10: was March thirty first, and twenty fourteen Eastern was April fourteen.

2819
02:41:36,720 --> 02:41:40,240
Speaker 10: In two thousand and four, April Easter was April the eleventh,

2820
02:41:40,680 --> 02:41:44,520
Speaker 10: and twenty thirty Easter will be April to twenty first,

2821
02:41:44,640 --> 02:41:47,600
Speaker 10: and twenty forty Easter will be April first. In twenty

2822
02:41:47,680 --> 02:41:50,920
Speaker 10: fifty April. Easter will be April the eleven. It's a

2823
02:41:51,000 --> 02:41:55,600
Speaker 10: move feast, so it's Eastern. And again, I want your

2824
02:41:55,720 --> 02:42:00,320
Speaker 10: listeners to understand what I'm saying. If Easter celebate rates

2825
02:42:01,800 --> 02:42:07,160
Speaker 10: the resurrection of the Sun of God, but the date

2826
02:42:07,240 --> 02:42:12,200
Speaker 10: of his resurrection is constantly changing, it means that this

2827
02:42:12,400 --> 02:42:17,560
Speaker 10: event is metaphorical. It is not a literal event. It

2828
02:42:17,840 --> 02:42:23,280
Speaker 10: talks about the sun relationship to the Earth, the Sun

2829
02:42:23,520 --> 02:42:27,480
Speaker 10: passing over the equator, and the Sun, which is the

2830
02:42:27,600 --> 02:42:31,320
Speaker 10: symbol that represents the Creator. It's a symbol that represents

2831
02:42:31,440 --> 02:42:36,000
Speaker 10: God is resurrected in the northern hemisphere. That is a

2832
02:42:36,160 --> 02:42:39,760
Speaker 10: metaphor for you. That is a metaphor for the powers

2833
02:42:39,920 --> 02:42:42,720
Speaker 10: of God, the powers of the Creator that are manifested

2834
02:42:43,000 --> 02:42:45,440
Speaker 10: within every single person.

2835
02:42:45,879 --> 02:42:48,920
Speaker 4: But we're not talking that information.

2836
02:42:49,000 --> 02:42:52,920
Speaker 10: Because the powers that be don't want us to rise

2837
02:42:53,040 --> 02:42:56,640
Speaker 10: to our full glory and be as wealthy and productive

2838
02:42:56,760 --> 02:43:01,039
Speaker 10: as we have the capacity to. So there our restrictions

2839
02:43:01,440 --> 02:43:05,400
Speaker 10: placed on our knowledge, and so we're taught to believe

2840
02:43:06,480 --> 02:43:12,240
Speaker 10: instead of understanding. We're taught to follow as opposed to knowing.

2841
02:43:12,879 --> 02:43:15,760
Speaker 10: And so the world belongs to those people who know

2842
02:43:16,600 --> 02:43:21,200
Speaker 10: and who have accurate information that has been documented and

2843
02:43:21,400 --> 02:43:25,879
Speaker 10: can be proven to be consistent over time. Those are

2844
02:43:25,920 --> 02:43:29,320
Speaker 10: the people who run the world. So for your listeners

2845
02:43:29,320 --> 02:43:33,039
Speaker 10: who are interested in running their lives. Just like brother

2846
02:43:33,160 --> 02:43:37,400
Speaker 10: Raymond from DC, he's at the point now where after

2847
02:43:37,480 --> 02:43:43,080
Speaker 10: having been imprison physically, he's out now and he's made

2848
02:43:43,200 --> 02:43:48,920
Speaker 10: over one hundred thousand dollars selling hats to crazy white folks.

2849
02:43:48,959 --> 02:43:51,800
Speaker 10: I mean, he understands the game and he's got the

2850
02:43:52,080 --> 02:43:55,440
Speaker 10: money now, which he keeps in the safe, the positive box,

2851
02:43:55,920 --> 02:43:58,400
Speaker 10: but he doesn't know how to use it. So he

2852
02:43:58,600 --> 02:44:01,800
Speaker 10: knows that his mind is in prison, and he asked

2853
02:44:01,840 --> 02:44:05,840
Speaker 10: the right questions, how do I free my mind? And

2854
02:44:05,959 --> 02:44:09,760
Speaker 10: so the knowledge that every person needs in order to

2855
02:44:09,920 --> 02:44:13,840
Speaker 10: give them freedom exists somewhere in a book. That's why

2856
02:44:13,959 --> 02:44:17,560
Speaker 10: you learn to love to read. Everything that we need

2857
02:44:17,680 --> 02:44:21,680
Speaker 10: to know about everything that we will experience in this

2858
02:44:21,879 --> 02:44:25,520
Speaker 10: particular lifetime has been documented by people who live in

2859
02:44:25,680 --> 02:44:29,840
Speaker 10: prior lifetimes. That's why you study the past. That's the

2860
02:44:29,959 --> 02:44:36,279
Speaker 10: reason why European enslavers made it ill legal for Africans

2861
02:44:36,520 --> 02:44:40,119
Speaker 10: to read and write, because they knew who we were.

2862
02:44:40,800 --> 02:44:43,520
Speaker 10: They knew that we had the longest record, the greatest

2863
02:44:43,600 --> 02:44:47,200
Speaker 10: record of human accomplishment on the planet. And if they

2864
02:44:47,240 --> 02:44:52,240
Speaker 10: could deny our ability to document the stories of our ancestors,

2865
02:44:52,720 --> 02:44:56,240
Speaker 10: if they could deny our ability to read what our

2866
02:44:56,320 --> 02:45:00,480
Speaker 10: ancestors had written, then we will become mentally in slaves

2867
02:45:00,600 --> 02:45:03,080
Speaker 10: and we will be controlled by them forever.

2868
02:45:03,760 --> 02:45:05,200
Speaker 4: So that's why this.

2869
02:45:05,360 --> 02:45:10,520
Speaker 10: Current administration is now erasing the history, the historical gains

2870
02:45:10,560 --> 02:45:13,440
Speaker 10: that were made in the sixties and the seventies, in

2871
02:45:13,480 --> 02:45:14,039
Speaker 10: the eighties.

2872
02:45:14,720 --> 02:45:15,959
Speaker 4: That's why they say they.

2873
02:45:15,879 --> 02:45:18,640
Speaker 10: Don't want us to be woke. They don't want us

2874
02:45:18,640 --> 02:45:21,120
Speaker 10: to be awake. They want us to be sleep. They

2875
02:45:21,200 --> 02:45:24,640
Speaker 10: want us to be to use Nation of Islam language,

2876
02:45:24,760 --> 02:45:27,879
Speaker 10: they want us to be the mentally dead, they want

2877
02:45:27,959 --> 02:45:32,320
Speaker 10: us to be negroes, the walking dead. Because as long

2878
02:45:32,360 --> 02:45:35,240
Speaker 10: as we don't know who we are, as long as

2879
02:45:35,320 --> 02:45:39,119
Speaker 10: we don't understand and appreciate the knowledge that our ancestors

2880
02:45:39,200 --> 02:45:43,560
Speaker 10: have accumulated and have at the ready. For those of

2881
02:45:43,680 --> 02:45:48,800
Speaker 10: us who are willing to invest time to read, to study,

2882
02:45:48,959 --> 02:45:51,320
Speaker 10: and to apply what you've read and study in order

2883
02:45:51,400 --> 02:45:56,480
Speaker 10: to make your life better. To me, that is cultural reparations, Carl.

2884
02:45:56,959 --> 02:45:59,360
Speaker 10: And for those who understand that you don't have to

2885
02:45:59,520 --> 02:46:03,480
Speaker 10: beg the white man to give you anything. You give

2886
02:46:03,680 --> 02:46:07,800
Speaker 10: yourself that which was outlaw, that which was illegal. You

2887
02:46:07,959 --> 02:46:11,520
Speaker 10: give yourself something that you can never outgrow, something that

2888
02:46:11,600 --> 02:46:13,959
Speaker 10: you can never lose. And that's a gift of knowledge.

2889
02:46:14,040 --> 02:46:21,360
Speaker 10: It only enhances itself and becomes wisdom over time as

2890
02:46:21,440 --> 02:46:25,200
Speaker 10: you grow into the essence of who you are. That's

2891
02:46:25,280 --> 02:46:27,200
Speaker 10: why I said at the top of this interview the

2892
02:46:27,280 --> 02:46:29,440
Speaker 10: three most important days in your life or the day

2893
02:46:29,480 --> 02:46:32,320
Speaker 10: you were born, the day you realize why you were born,

2894
02:46:32,640 --> 02:46:35,840
Speaker 10: your cosmic assignment, as doctor Wilson says, and the day

2895
02:46:35,920 --> 02:46:37,960
Speaker 10: that you realize that you've been born again, when you

2896
02:46:38,120 --> 02:46:40,720
Speaker 10: know that you've been here before, your soul has been

2897
02:46:40,800 --> 02:46:44,800
Speaker 10: here before. Then you tap into that sole knowledge what

2898
02:46:44,959 --> 02:46:47,400
Speaker 10: I refer to as your ancestral intelligence.

2899
02:46:47,600 --> 02:46:47,880
Speaker 4: Baby.

2900
02:46:48,280 --> 02:46:51,440
Speaker 10: And once you tap into that, once you understand who

2901
02:46:51,560 --> 02:46:55,240
Speaker 10: you are and that you are an extension of your ancestors,

2902
02:46:55,720 --> 02:46:58,800
Speaker 10: and you plug into that knowledge source, nothing could stand

2903
02:46:58,879 --> 02:46:59,360
Speaker 10: in your way.

2904
02:47:00,160 --> 02:47:01,120
Speaker 4: Person knows that.

2905
02:47:01,800 --> 02:47:07,560
Speaker 10: That's why they convinced some of us to believe that

2906
02:47:07,760 --> 02:47:12,120
Speaker 10: to acknowledge your ancestors is kagan, it's sac religious. You

2907
02:47:12,320 --> 02:47:16,000
Speaker 10: going to hell right. It disconnects you from your real

2908
02:47:17,120 --> 02:47:21,600
Speaker 10: source of power. And that's what Ryan Kugler vividly and

2909
02:47:21,760 --> 02:47:27,440
Speaker 10: magnificently incorporated in his last three films. In Black Panther

2910
02:47:27,879 --> 02:47:32,240
Speaker 10: and Wakanda, Forever and Sinners, Ryan Kugler has used the

2911
02:47:32,600 --> 02:47:36,520
Speaker 10: film business, the film industry, the most powerful form of

2912
02:47:36,720 --> 02:47:41,760
Speaker 10: mass communication and mental and emotional manipulation ever created.

2913
02:47:42,280 --> 02:47:46,800
Speaker 4: He's used this art form to introduce.

2914
02:47:46,480 --> 02:47:49,879
Speaker 10: African people to their history and their culture and their ancestry.

2915
02:47:50,240 --> 02:47:53,160
Speaker 10: When T'Challa and the Black Panther went into the ancestral

2916
02:47:53,280 --> 02:47:57,879
Speaker 10: realm and communicated with his father to help him get

2917
02:47:58,000 --> 02:48:01,640
Speaker 10: over the loss of the father, the murder of his father,

2918
02:48:02,080 --> 02:48:04,520
Speaker 10: he then was able to become the man that his

2919
02:48:04,640 --> 02:48:07,240
Speaker 10: father had trained him to be. And what kind of

2920
02:48:07,320 --> 02:48:13,440
Speaker 10: forever That movie opened with his family pooring libations and

2921
02:48:13,600 --> 02:48:17,680
Speaker 10: acknowledging the ancestors to come down and receive his spirit

2922
02:48:17,959 --> 02:48:22,080
Speaker 10: so that he can move forward. The movie Sinners was

2923
02:48:22,200 --> 02:48:27,880
Speaker 10: the love story to Ryan Coogler's ancestors, Uncle James and

2924
02:48:28,000 --> 02:48:29,039
Speaker 10: his ancestors from.

2925
02:48:28,959 --> 02:48:30,040
Speaker 4: The Mississippi Deltas.

2926
02:48:30,120 --> 02:48:33,120
Speaker 10: That's why that movie was so powerful, And the most

2927
02:48:33,680 --> 02:48:37,640
Speaker 10: powerful scene in that film was when Sammy had his

2928
02:48:37,800 --> 02:48:41,960
Speaker 10: debut in Club Duke and he sang that song I

2929
02:48:42,160 --> 02:48:44,480
Speaker 10: Lied to You. He had to lie to his father,

2930
02:48:45,280 --> 02:48:48,840
Speaker 10: who was imprisoned by the teachings of the church. He

2931
02:48:48,920 --> 02:48:51,880
Speaker 10: had to lie to his father right in order for

2932
02:48:52,000 --> 02:48:56,200
Speaker 10: him to do for his life, for his soul came

2933
02:48:56,480 --> 02:48:59,879
Speaker 10: back on earth to do, and that is to express

2934
02:48:59,879 --> 02:49:04,280
Speaker 10: itself through the music, to use sound, to use sound

2935
02:49:04,400 --> 02:49:07,480
Speaker 10: vibration to liberate folks. So we saw in that powerful

2936
02:49:07,600 --> 02:49:13,360
Speaker 10: scene with Sammy, Sammy said, somebody take me in your

2937
02:49:13,520 --> 02:49:17,280
Speaker 10: arms tonight. Sammy called out to his ancestors and gave

2938
02:49:17,400 --> 02:49:22,240
Speaker 10: them permission to come down and take him in their arms.

2939
02:49:22,320 --> 02:49:26,560
Speaker 10: And you saw his African ancestor, his West African ancestor

2940
02:49:26,920 --> 02:49:30,360
Speaker 10: come into that space, playing that little bitty guitar right

2941
02:49:30,400 --> 02:49:31,160
Speaker 10: along Sammy.

2942
02:49:31,480 --> 02:49:34,640
Speaker 4: And then you saw these ancestors from.

2943
02:49:34,480 --> 02:49:38,240
Speaker 10: The future come into the present moment, and he saw

2944
02:49:38,320 --> 02:49:42,320
Speaker 10: that brother playing the Funkadelic guitar standing next to Sammy.

2945
02:49:42,800 --> 02:49:48,040
Speaker 10: So that one scene represented an African reality that time

2946
02:49:48,200 --> 02:49:52,040
Speaker 10: is a man made construct and that all time exists

2947
02:49:52,200 --> 02:49:55,119
Speaker 10: right now, the past, present, in the future exists right now.

2948
02:49:55,200 --> 02:49:59,760
Speaker 10: And when you know that you can call into the past,

2949
02:50:00,400 --> 02:50:03,119
Speaker 10: the best of your ancestors come forth in the present

2950
02:50:03,200 --> 02:50:06,680
Speaker 10: moment so that you can determine what your future is.

2951
02:50:06,680 --> 02:50:10,039
Speaker 4: Going to be somebody. Philosophers said the.

2952
02:50:10,120 --> 02:50:12,640
Speaker 10: Best way to predict the future is to create it,

2953
02:50:13,440 --> 02:50:16,359
Speaker 10: and that's what human beings have always had the capacity

2954
02:50:16,480 --> 02:50:19,560
Speaker 10: to do. To know who you were, to understand your

2955
02:50:19,640 --> 02:50:23,800
Speaker 10: ancestral legacy that you have inherited, and then to apply

2956
02:50:24,000 --> 02:50:28,160
Speaker 10: that knowledge today in your life in order to predict

2957
02:50:28,760 --> 02:50:33,000
Speaker 10: and create the future that you're going to inherit when

2958
02:50:33,360 --> 02:50:37,480
Speaker 10: you come back. Man, this is possibly liberating information, and

2959
02:50:37,640 --> 02:50:41,640
Speaker 10: our oppression will never validate it. They will never teach

2960
02:50:41,720 --> 02:50:45,720
Speaker 10: it to you. But the information has always been here

2961
02:50:46,080 --> 02:50:49,880
Speaker 10: for those souls who were curious enough, those souls who

2962
02:50:49,959 --> 02:50:54,160
Speaker 10: were courageous enough to wake up and begin the process

2963
02:50:54,360 --> 02:50:59,200
Speaker 10: of empowering themselves and begins first in your mind, in

2964
02:50:59,320 --> 02:51:00,800
Speaker 10: your heart, in your soul.

2965
02:51:01,400 --> 02:51:02,880
Speaker 4: That's my servant for today. Brother.

2966
02:51:03,560 --> 02:51:05,160
Speaker 2: All right, well, hold it right there. We've got some

2967
02:51:05,200 --> 02:51:06,600
Speaker 2: folks who want to talk to you. We got to

2968
02:51:06,600 --> 02:51:08,800
Speaker 2: step aside for our last break. Family, you want to

2969
02:51:08,840 --> 02:51:10,800
Speaker 2: speak with Tony Browner, reach out to us at eight

2970
02:51:10,920 --> 02:51:13,880
Speaker 2: hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy six and

2971
02:51:13,920 --> 02:51:16,560
Speaker 2: we'll take your phone calls next heany grind Rising family,

2972
02:51:16,600 --> 02:51:18,680
Speaker 2: Thanks for staying with us on this Monday morning. Eighteen

2973
02:51:18,720 --> 02:51:20,640
Speaker 2: minutes away from the top of that with Tony brown

2974
02:51:20,680 --> 02:51:22,560
Speaker 2: I got a bunch of folks, got questions for Tony.

2975
02:51:22,760 --> 02:51:26,120
Speaker 2: Let's go to line one. Kevin Quibiner, Brother Kubina in

2976
02:51:26,160 --> 02:51:28,680
Speaker 2: Northeast DC has a question for Brother Tony. Grand Rising,

2977
02:51:28,760 --> 02:51:29,400
Speaker 2: Brother Cobina.

2978
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Speaker 9: You're on with Tony Browner, Brian Rising, Brother Quacy, Kevin

2979
02:51:35,760 --> 02:51:40,840
Speaker 9: and Brother Tony Browner and the Radio one listener audience. Yes, sir,

2980
02:51:41,320 --> 02:51:45,879
Speaker 9: Brother Tony, I was on would call this past Friday,

2981
02:51:46,520 --> 02:51:52,480
Speaker 9: and I bought the movie that won the Academy Award

2982
02:51:53,600 --> 02:52:00,920
Speaker 9: over centers one battle after another. Had you seen that, Tony?

2983
02:52:02,040 --> 02:52:04,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw the film and I wasn't impressed.

2984
02:52:05,879 --> 02:52:09,520
Speaker 10: It's like the twenty twenty sixth version of Monster's Ball,

2985
02:52:09,600 --> 02:52:11,959
Speaker 10: a white man's fantasy of black women.

2986
02:52:12,040 --> 02:52:12,800
Speaker 12: That's all it was.

2987
02:52:14,720 --> 02:52:20,840
Speaker 9: Well, I was telling Brother Quacy called that sentence was

2988
02:52:20,879 --> 02:52:24,080
Speaker 9: definitely a better movie. But I did see a couple

2989
02:52:24,120 --> 02:52:29,600
Speaker 9: of subliminal messages in the movie that I could relate

2990
02:52:29,720 --> 02:52:33,240
Speaker 9: to what they were trying to say. And I was

2991
02:52:33,360 --> 02:52:36,680
Speaker 9: asking Brother Quaycy, was that you that it brought up

2992
02:52:36,800 --> 02:52:40,720
Speaker 9: the issue about Saint Nick when you go when you

2993
02:52:41,400 --> 02:52:44,680
Speaker 9: We didn't know if that was you or the other

2994
02:52:44,760 --> 02:52:49,280
Speaker 9: brother that comes on that talks about Christmas and the

2995
02:52:49,360 --> 02:52:54,000
Speaker 9: relationship with that pagan holiday and the Saint Nick really

2996
02:52:54,080 --> 02:52:57,840
Speaker 9: boring down to being the devil? Was that you, Tony No,

2997
02:52:58,280 --> 02:53:00,640
Speaker 9: I mean there's other folks who have about it and

2998
02:53:00,760 --> 02:53:05,040
Speaker 9: talked about it. Uh, but that's uh Shaka must Burn

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02:53:05,080 --> 02:53:09,600
Speaker 9: Shawn Gold was talking about that in the seventies. Yeah,

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02:53:09,760 --> 02:53:12,600
Speaker 9: so brother quasi, what was the brother the other brother

3001
02:53:12,720 --> 02:53:15,560
Speaker 9: you said that that that brings the talks about that. Uh,

3002
02:53:16,240 --> 02:53:17,200
Speaker 9: his name escapes me.

3003
02:53:18,240 --> 02:53:20,040
Speaker 10: Can ask you to be move on, so we could

3004
02:53:20,080 --> 02:53:21,680
Speaker 10: we could keep the flow going.

3005
02:53:23,160 --> 02:53:23,680
Speaker 12: Real quick.

3006
02:53:23,879 --> 02:53:24,480
Speaker 10: What's the point?

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02:53:25,080 --> 02:53:25,720
Speaker 4: What the point?

3008
02:53:26,040 --> 02:53:28,600
Speaker 9: But my point is the part that they were talking about.

3009
02:53:28,640 --> 02:53:31,119
Speaker 9: They had a group in the movie called the Christmas

3010
02:53:31,280 --> 02:53:36,160
Speaker 9: Adventurers who are white supremacist secret society and their main

3011
02:53:36,360 --> 02:53:39,040
Speaker 9: phrase was held to Saint Nick. And I thought it

3012
02:53:39,200 --> 02:53:41,920
Speaker 9: was relevant that they put that in the movie to

3013
02:53:42,280 --> 02:53:45,119
Speaker 9: kind of bring you you know, and if you didn't notice,

3014
02:53:45,120 --> 02:53:47,800
Speaker 9: Saint Nick was the devil. And it was also another

3015
02:53:47,920 --> 02:53:50,240
Speaker 9: message they put in the movie that they took from

3016
02:53:50,959 --> 02:53:54,640
Speaker 9: Gil Scott Heron that the revolution will not be televised

3017
02:53:54,680 --> 02:53:57,280
Speaker 9: where they referred to these white racists.

3018
02:53:57,600 --> 02:53:59,400
Speaker 5: It was like a cold that they referred to.

3019
02:53:59,480 --> 02:54:04,400
Speaker 9: Them Beverly hill billy is Hooterville Junction and uh that

3020
02:54:04,640 --> 02:54:09,200
Speaker 9: was from Green Acres, the Beverly Hill Billy's and Hudeville Junction,

3021
02:54:09,680 --> 02:54:13,080
Speaker 9: and they were were let me say, this was it.

3022
02:54:13,280 --> 02:54:15,240
Speaker 9: I just wanted to comment type of your comment.

3023
02:54:15,720 --> 02:54:19,480
Speaker 2: All right, let's move on, thank you, all right, zero,

3024
02:54:20,800 --> 02:54:22,320
Speaker 2: go ahead, Tony, you want to respond to that.

3025
02:54:22,680 --> 02:54:24,680
Speaker 10: The point that I wanted to make about that film

3026
02:54:24,760 --> 02:54:29,000
Speaker 10: and why I found it so utterly despicable, is how

3027
02:54:29,080 --> 02:54:30,400
Speaker 10: we portrayed black women.

3028
02:54:31,080 --> 02:54:31,200
Speaker 4: Uh.

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02:54:31,560 --> 02:54:35,800
Speaker 10: The key central female figure was shown as a woman

3030
02:54:35,879 --> 02:54:38,880
Speaker 10: who had sex with white men, and all she was

3031
02:54:38,959 --> 02:54:42,720
Speaker 10: interested in was sex. It was perpetuating this this image

3032
02:54:42,760 --> 02:54:45,440
Speaker 10: that I'm tired of seeing over and over again, is

3033
02:54:45,520 --> 02:54:49,400
Speaker 10: black women is being sexually loose in free She turned

3034
02:54:49,440 --> 02:54:50,160
Speaker 10: out to.

3035
02:54:51,840 --> 02:54:54,520
Speaker 4: Have father, uh, the father of her child.

3036
02:54:55,080 --> 02:54:57,360
Speaker 10: The mixed race girl that who was the star of

3037
02:54:57,440 --> 02:55:01,240
Speaker 10: the film turned out to be the racists who belonged

3038
02:55:01,280 --> 02:55:04,120
Speaker 10: to this Saint Nick's racist club, and then her white

3039
02:55:04,320 --> 02:55:07,840
Speaker 10: father was going to kill her. That's the takeaway in

3040
02:55:07,879 --> 02:55:13,039
Speaker 10: the movie. It shows you how devilish these white men are.

3041
02:55:13,600 --> 02:55:16,360
Speaker 10: And that's the same message you saw in Sinners. The

3042
02:55:16,440 --> 02:55:19,039
Speaker 10: white Man is a vampire. He's a devil.

3043
02:55:19,320 --> 02:55:23,480
Speaker 4: The KKK is a vampire. So see that message because

3044
02:55:23,840 --> 02:55:26,640
Speaker 4: that's in your face, and we need to know how

3045
02:55:26,720 --> 02:55:29,760
Speaker 4: to respond to that message so that we can honor

3046
02:55:29,840 --> 02:55:34,000
Speaker 4: those people who are teaching us a truth and entertaining

3047
02:55:34,200 --> 02:55:36,600
Speaker 4: us by teaching us the truth. That to me is

3048
02:55:36,600 --> 02:55:39,520
Speaker 4: the most important lesson to be learned from both of

3049
02:55:39,600 --> 02:55:42,400
Speaker 4: those films. So let's move to the next caller.

3050
02:55:42,440 --> 02:55:45,360
Speaker 2: Call all right, mate, away for the time, fred Ji

3051
02:55:45,480 --> 02:55:50,359
Speaker 2: Booiez online four grand rising, Fred, You're on with Tony Browner, Yes.

3052
02:55:50,320 --> 02:55:54,480
Speaker 13: Frand rising to Kevin Kall and Tony Browner, Frand rising

3053
02:55:54,560 --> 02:55:57,240
Speaker 13: to you all, mister Bradda. I just wanted to thank

3054
02:55:57,280 --> 02:56:00,120
Speaker 13: you for your vast knowledge and the formative information in

3055
02:56:00,200 --> 02:56:05,879
Speaker 13: ath African history. I have revisited the National African Museum

3056
02:56:06,720 --> 02:56:10,199
Speaker 13: on last Thursday. I've been there twice and I respect

3057
02:56:10,240 --> 02:56:12,880
Speaker 13: the work that was there, But have you thought to

3058
02:56:13,000 --> 02:56:17,840
Speaker 13: collaborate with the museum to present earlier history beyond the

3059
02:56:17,959 --> 02:56:20,840
Speaker 13: fourteen hundreds? Because when I went down the reason why

3060
02:56:20,840 --> 02:56:23,400
Speaker 13: I went down the second time because as you know,

3061
02:56:23,480 --> 02:56:27,119
Speaker 13: you go down below and it only depicts the fourteen hundred,

3062
02:56:27,520 --> 02:56:30,640
Speaker 13: and I look around at all the youth and all

3063
02:56:30,720 --> 02:56:31,199
Speaker 13: they see.

3064
02:56:31,560 --> 02:56:32,360
Speaker 11: It's more like the.

3065
02:56:32,440 --> 02:56:37,000
Speaker 4: Beginning of slavery and not what we were prior. I

3066
02:56:37,160 --> 02:56:38,160
Speaker 4: took my answer off.

3067
02:56:38,080 --> 02:56:41,960
Speaker 10: There at the same time, spread thank you so much

3068
02:56:42,800 --> 02:56:45,240
Speaker 10: for this question. Thank you so much for this question.

3069
02:56:45,720 --> 02:56:49,400
Speaker 10: I've been to that museum several dozen times. I've talked

3070
02:56:49,400 --> 02:56:52,080
Speaker 10: to some of the curators. I talked to folk behind

3071
02:56:52,120 --> 02:56:54,960
Speaker 10: the scenes. I talked to folk who do security at

3072
02:56:55,000 --> 02:56:59,920
Speaker 10: the museum. So I understand what's going on in that space.

3073
02:57:01,160 --> 02:57:04,320
Speaker 10: And so my response to the issues that you raised.

3074
02:57:04,800 --> 02:57:07,400
Speaker 10: You go down five stories below ground and you step

3075
02:57:07,480 --> 02:57:10,840
Speaker 10: off that elevator and you are in a simulation of

3076
02:57:10,920 --> 02:57:14,640
Speaker 10: a slave ship. And so that was the intention of

3077
02:57:14,760 --> 02:57:18,200
Speaker 10: this museum, the creation of this museum, And you go

3078
02:57:18,320 --> 02:57:22,600
Speaker 10: back to the fifteenth century and you begin our story

3079
02:57:22,680 --> 02:57:25,360
Speaker 10: in slavery. It says nothing about who we were before

3080
02:57:25,360 --> 02:57:28,160
Speaker 10: our world was turned upside down. That's the reason why

3081
02:57:28,320 --> 02:57:32,160
Speaker 10: a year ago this month, we created we opened the

3082
02:57:32,280 --> 02:57:35,080
Speaker 10: John Hmmy Clark and Hands History Project on the second

3083
02:57:35,120 --> 02:57:38,680
Speaker 10: floor of the THIRDD. Marshall Center to address the shortcomings,

3084
02:57:38,760 --> 02:57:42,400
Speaker 10: the historical shortcomings at the National Museum of African American

3085
02:57:42,480 --> 02:57:45,000
Speaker 10: History and Culture. So I invite you, Fred and everybody

3086
02:57:45,000 --> 02:57:48,080
Speaker 10: who's listening to come down to the THURBD. Marshall Center

3087
02:57:48,280 --> 02:57:51,840
Speaker 10: at eighteen sixteen Twelfth Street. Go to the second floor

3088
02:57:52,280 --> 02:57:54,520
Speaker 10: and you can see the John Hmmy Clark and Hands

3089
02:57:54,640 --> 02:57:58,360
Speaker 10: History Project, which will give you eight thousand years of

3090
02:57:58,520 --> 02:58:04,720
Speaker 10: African success that preceded our enslaviy. That was my response

3091
02:58:04,879 --> 02:58:07,920
Speaker 10: to the historical showcomings at the National Museum of Ascan

3092
02:58:07,959 --> 02:58:10,200
Speaker 10: American History and Culture. The last thing I want to

3093
02:58:10,200 --> 02:58:12,880
Speaker 10: say on this subject matter. It was mentioned earlier in

3094
02:58:13,000 --> 02:58:16,920
Speaker 10: the other segment about David H. Rubinstein.

3095
02:58:17,480 --> 02:58:18,040
Speaker 4: David H.

3096
02:58:18,160 --> 02:58:21,760
Speaker 10: Rubenstein is the wealthiest person in Washington, d C.

3097
02:58:22,360 --> 02:58:22,960
Speaker 4: David H.

3098
02:58:23,160 --> 02:58:28,200
Speaker 10: Rubinstein was the chair of the Smithsonian. He stepped down.

3099
02:58:28,280 --> 02:58:32,600
Speaker 10: He also was the chair of the Kennedy Center and

3100
02:58:32,800 --> 02:58:35,000
Speaker 10: he was replaced David H.

3101
02:58:35,120 --> 02:58:35,840
Speaker 4: Rubenstein.

3102
02:58:37,160 --> 02:58:40,560
Speaker 10: The history galleries at the National Museum of Ascan American

3103
02:58:40,640 --> 02:58:44,480
Speaker 10: History and Culture that you reference is called the David H.

3104
02:58:44,600 --> 02:58:50,840
Speaker 10: Rubenstein History Galleries. So this wealthy white Jewish man was

3105
02:58:50,959 --> 02:58:55,320
Speaker 10: responsible for the beginning of our story at the museum

3106
02:58:55,480 --> 02:58:58,959
Speaker 10: in slavery. If you would notice, there are I think

3107
02:58:59,240 --> 02:59:02,520
Speaker 10: nineteen music them that are part of the Smithsonian Institution,

3108
02:59:03,120 --> 02:59:07,400
Speaker 10: and fourteen of the nineteen. Sinithsonian museums across the country

3109
02:59:07,840 --> 02:59:12,800
Speaker 10: have a David H. Rooms sign History Gallery, which means

3110
02:59:12,840 --> 02:59:17,960
Speaker 10: that this wealthy man is responsible for what millions of

3111
02:59:18,040 --> 02:59:23,600
Speaker 10: Americans will now internalized as the legitimate history for them.

3112
02:59:24,080 --> 02:59:26,320
Speaker 10: So in that context, I want your listeners do understand

3113
02:59:26,360 --> 02:59:30,119
Speaker 10: the history is in fact his story. And whenever you're

3114
02:59:30,120 --> 02:59:35,440
Speaker 10: oppressed or your enemy tells you his version of your story,

3115
02:59:35,920 --> 02:59:38,119
Speaker 10: they're never going to begin the story at the beginning.

3116
02:59:38,520 --> 02:59:41,440
Speaker 10: They're going to begin your story at a position that

3117
02:59:41,600 --> 02:59:44,120
Speaker 10: puts them ahead of you. If you really want to

3118
02:59:44,160 --> 02:59:46,640
Speaker 10: know who you are, if you want to minimize the

3119
02:59:46,760 --> 02:59:51,080
Speaker 10: process of mis education, which cartergy Whitson brought into existence

3120
02:59:51,240 --> 02:59:55,000
Speaker 10: one hundred years ago last month, you've got to educate yourself.

3121
02:59:55,160 --> 02:59:58,480
Speaker 10: You've got to read, you've got to study what you've read,

3122
02:59:58,760 --> 03:00:01,160
Speaker 10: and you've got to know how to apply what you've

3123
03:00:01,200 --> 03:00:04,640
Speaker 10: studied and read in your personal life to determine how

3124
03:00:04,760 --> 03:00:09,440
Speaker 10: you move forward in reality in the future. And that's

3125
03:00:09,560 --> 03:00:12,400
Speaker 10: what freedom really is, the freedom to know who you

3126
03:00:12,560 --> 03:00:14,720
Speaker 10: are and the freedom to act on that knowledge.

3127
03:00:14,720 --> 03:00:17,800
Speaker 4: Celeberate yourself. And we witness now in twenty twenty.

3128
03:00:17,640 --> 03:00:20,200
Speaker 10: Six, as we prepare to celebrate the twentundred and fiftieth

3129
03:00:20,200 --> 03:00:23,879
Speaker 10: anniversary of this country. Those freedoms are being suppressed, they're

3130
03:00:23,920 --> 03:00:29,520
Speaker 10: being shut down in real time. So the future of

3131
03:00:29,640 --> 03:00:34,680
Speaker 10: America and the future of black people will be determined.

3132
03:00:34,120 --> 03:00:39,240
Speaker 4: By what conscious black people do right now. Now's the time. Now,

3133
03:00:39,280 --> 03:00:39,840
Speaker 4: It's not the.

3134
03:00:39,920 --> 03:00:42,720
Speaker 10: Time to sit on the fence or the twittery your thumbs,

3135
03:00:43,160 --> 03:00:47,440
Speaker 10: or to pray to somebody else's concept of God to

3136
03:00:47,560 --> 03:00:51,240
Speaker 10: liberate you. Frederick Douglas said that he was praying for

3137
03:00:51,360 --> 03:00:54,720
Speaker 10: freedom from slavery for years and years, but until he

3138
03:00:54,800 --> 03:00:55,760
Speaker 10: started praying with.

3139
03:00:55,879 --> 03:00:57,800
Speaker 4: His feet, he never got free.

3140
03:00:57,840 --> 03:01:02,160
Speaker 10: It's about action, Baby's accounts. What you do now, what

3141
03:01:02,360 --> 03:01:04,360
Speaker 10: you say, not what you think.

3142
03:01:04,760 --> 03:01:07,600
Speaker 4: But it's what you do with the counts, all right?

3143
03:01:07,840 --> 03:01:10,199
Speaker 2: Ate away from the top of the hour. Carl's calling

3144
03:01:10,320 --> 03:01:13,000
Speaker 2: us from West Palm Beaches in Florida's online three. Carl,

3145
03:01:13,080 --> 03:01:20,560
Speaker 2: your question for brother Tony Browner. Oh, it looks like you. Okay, Tony,

3146
03:01:20,760 --> 03:01:23,640
Speaker 2: they're asking for you if you can repeat the InformATE

3147
03:01:23,720 --> 03:01:25,920
Speaker 2: your contact information before you do that, though, I got

3148
03:01:25,959 --> 03:01:27,960
Speaker 2: a tweet question. Tweetter wanted to know if you're do

3149
03:01:28,040 --> 03:01:29,560
Speaker 2: an Egypt on the Potomac this year.

3150
03:01:30,640 --> 03:01:35,039
Speaker 10: Ah, thank you for that question. Yes, this year marks

3151
03:01:35,120 --> 03:01:37,320
Speaker 10: the fortieth anniversary.

3152
03:01:36,800 --> 03:01:37,880
Speaker 4: Of Egypt Bulamaty.

3153
03:01:38,200 --> 03:01:40,160
Speaker 10: Now, what I've done over the course of those forty

3154
03:01:40,240 --> 03:01:45,880
Speaker 10: years is to put my applied knowledge to work. I

3155
03:01:46,040 --> 03:01:50,080
Speaker 10: learned about Kimmit, I learned about now Valley culture and civilization.

3156
03:01:50,480 --> 03:01:53,119
Speaker 10: And I came to d C and looked at DC

3157
03:01:53,320 --> 03:01:57,199
Speaker 10: with fresh eyes, and I saw that in the capital

3158
03:01:57,320 --> 03:02:03,119
Speaker 10: of this nation there are some of African history, culture, spirituality,

3159
03:02:03,240 --> 03:02:06,800
Speaker 10: and mythology embedded in the landscape. And so I created

3160
03:02:06,920 --> 03:02:11,160
Speaker 10: Egypt on the Potomac in nineteen eighty six. We're forty

3161
03:02:11,240 --> 03:02:13,800
Speaker 10: years old this year, and in the forty years that

3162
03:02:13,879 --> 03:02:16,400
Speaker 10: we've been doing this field trip, no one has ever

3163
03:02:16,680 --> 03:02:20,160
Speaker 10: challenged me or said that by information is wrong. Why

3164
03:02:20,240 --> 03:02:23,520
Speaker 10: Because I do my research and I provide my sources

3165
03:02:23,840 --> 03:02:26,440
Speaker 10: so people can see for themselves when I'm talking about

3166
03:02:26,720 --> 03:02:29,360
Speaker 10: and most of the sources that I referenced are white folks.

3167
03:02:29,440 --> 03:02:31,560
Speaker 10: So I did my research at the Library of Congress,

3168
03:02:31,800 --> 03:02:35,080
Speaker 10: I documented this in my book Egypt on the Potomac,

3169
03:02:35,160 --> 03:02:39,280
Speaker 10: and through the field trip. So this year Meridian Hill Park,

3170
03:02:39,320 --> 03:02:42,199
Speaker 10: which is well we began our field trip and spend

3171
03:02:42,440 --> 03:02:45,040
Speaker 10: over a third of our time on the field trip

3172
03:02:45,080 --> 03:02:47,840
Speaker 10: as the Meridian Hill Park. Meridi Hill Park is being

3173
03:02:47,879 --> 03:02:49,320
Speaker 10: restored restored.

3174
03:02:49,440 --> 03:02:49,600
Speaker 4: Now.

3175
03:02:49,879 --> 03:02:53,240
Speaker 10: They're repairing the pumps for the cascading waterfall and that's

3176
03:02:53,240 --> 03:02:56,080
Speaker 10: supposed to be done sometime in late spring. Then they're

3177
03:02:56,120 --> 03:02:58,840
Speaker 10: going to work on restoring the upper level of the park.

3178
03:02:59,280 --> 03:03:02,040
Speaker 10: So the park won't be free and open to the

3179
03:03:02,120 --> 03:03:06,040
Speaker 10: public until October the first. So we're going to modify

3180
03:03:06,240 --> 03:03:10,360
Speaker 10: field trip this year. We won't do the bus led

3181
03:03:10,440 --> 03:03:15,120
Speaker 10: field trips until October, and we only do it through

3182
03:03:15,240 --> 03:03:18,840
Speaker 10: November because most of the activity takes place outside. So

3183
03:03:19,080 --> 03:03:24,640
Speaker 10: I'm going to do some supplemental virtual fild trip presentations

3184
03:03:24,720 --> 03:03:27,200
Speaker 10: at the Third and Marshall Center and I'm planning to

3185
03:03:27,320 --> 03:03:31,480
Speaker 10: do the first one on June the thirteenth. So I

3186
03:03:31,560 --> 03:03:35,800
Speaker 10: went direct everyone to our website which is ikg dash

3187
03:03:36,080 --> 03:03:42,320
Speaker 10: info dot com, ikginfo dot com. Where give me a

3188
03:03:42,400 --> 03:03:44,880
Speaker 10: week to set up this information and post it on

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Speaker 10: the website. You can get details about the Egypt or

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Speaker 10: the Potomac. You can get details about my last study

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Speaker 10: tour to Egypt. Brother Willie Jolly said he went to

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Speaker 10: go to Egypt with me. Well, this year is my

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Speaker 10: last year of doing the field trips. After that I'm done.

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Speaker 10: I'm passing the baton over to my daughter, and I'm

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Speaker 10: going to do some other things.

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Speaker 4: With my time.

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Speaker 10: My limited time and limited energies. So details on our

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Speaker 10: last study to it Egypt. I'm doing three this year.

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Speaker 10: The July and Decimber trip already sold out. I've got

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Speaker 10: about twenty flats left for our June study to at Egypt.

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Speaker 10: Those details on the website and email address for people

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03:04:25,640 --> 03:04:29,520
Speaker 10: can reach out to me is browder File at yahoo

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Speaker 10: dot com. My name the title of my first book,

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03:04:32,920 --> 03:04:36,000
Speaker 10: rouder File at yahoo dot com. It's how folk can

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Speaker 10: reach me. And I've got a new book out called

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Speaker 10: brouder File BYUME three, A broader perspective my fifty year

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Speaker 10: journey to enlighten IT while I'm doing like a synthesis,

3208
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Speaker 10: a synopsis of my fifty years of doing this research,

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Speaker 10: laying out a blackprint for those who are so inclined

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Speaker 10: to understand what this life is all about and how you,

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Speaker 10: as a person of African ancestry commune, use ancestral knowledge

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03:05:01,600 --> 03:05:05,840
Speaker 10: and ancestral intelligence to make your life better. You've got

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03:05:05,879 --> 03:05:10,119
Speaker 10: control over your life, not anybody else's life. Take responsibility

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Speaker 10: for your life for the benefit of your children and

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Speaker 10: future generations.

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Speaker 2: All right, I want more time for the contact information,

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Speaker 2: brother Tony.

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Speaker 10: Contact information for the website is www dot I kg

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Speaker 10: dash info dot com, I kg d'sh info dot com

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Speaker 10: or email browder file b R O W D E

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Speaker 10: R S I L E at yahoo dot com. And

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Speaker 10: and I would ask that if people reach out to me,

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Speaker 10: you may make sure it's a reasonable request. I don't

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Speaker 10: I don't respond to unreasonable requests.

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Speaker 4: I don't have time.

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Speaker 10: And I will direct you to resources uh where you

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03:05:54,360 --> 03:05:56,800
Speaker 10: can do certain things. And I'm also going to ask

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Speaker 10: that please don't give me another project to do. I

3229
03:06:00,879 --> 03:06:04,000
Speaker 10: got enough on my plate to last me for the

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Speaker 10: next ten to fifteen years. I know what my cosmic

3231
03:06:06,640 --> 03:06:11,160
Speaker 10: assignment is and I'm doing the work to fulfill my assignment.

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03:06:11,320 --> 03:06:15,160
Speaker 10: I want others to understand what their assignment is so

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Speaker 10: that you can do the best you in this lifetime,

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Speaker 10: so that you can reap the benefits in the future

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Speaker 10: life times to come.

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Speaker 2: All right, I haven't said that. Thank you, brother Tony.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us this morning.

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Speaker 4: My pleasure.

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Speaker 10: Thank you, and thank Kevin for passing on the message.

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Speaker 10: I appreciate you and all the best to the WL family.

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Speaker 2: Happy spring, all right the peace, that's say family classes

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Speaker 2: dismissed for the day. Stay strong, stay positive, please stay healthy.

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Speaker 2: What's you tomorrow morning, six o'clock Right here in Baltimorerow

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Speaker 2: on ten ten WLB and then the DMV on fourteen

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Speaker 2: fifty WOL