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Speaker 1: He's a close political ally of the governor. He was

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Speaker 1: back in at allten Us Kennel a Casey show. I'm

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Speaker 1: Rob Casey's here joined in studio our old Pally's the

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Speaker 1: former State Police superintendent.

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Speaker 2: Doug Carter joins us. Now, Doug, hello, morning to you.

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Speaker 1: All right, So you are not the person we were

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Speaker 1: talking about there. We're talking about Tom klein Helter. You

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Speaker 1: joined us what this has been about a month ago

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Speaker 1: now and laid out how when you were the state

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Speaker 1: Police Superintendent, Tom klein Helter is the sheriff of du

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Speaker 1: Bois County. You were overseeing or helping oversee an investigation

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Speaker 1: that produced an eighty page probable cause affidavit alleging impropriety

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Speaker 1: related to monies being spent out of the commissary related

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Speaker 1: to trips for Clin Helter and his wife.

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Speaker 2: Do I have that correct? Okay? Very good? And there

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Speaker 2: was a special prosecutor involved.

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Speaker 1: You felt like everything was going well, that you had

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Speaker 1: put one of your best men, Jeff Hearing, in charge

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Speaker 1: of that thirty five plus years at the Indiana State Police,

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Speaker 1: you felt like you guys had I think we'd used

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Speaker 1: the term sort of an ironclad case that had been

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Speaker 1: built there, and then all of a sudden new year,

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Speaker 1: Braun becomes governor, you're no longer state superintendent, and magically

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Speaker 1: the charges just don't get filed.

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Speaker 3: Yes, essentially, that's correct.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So you came on, talked about the concerns with that.

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Speaker 1: We did a whole hour on it. That was just

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Speaker 1: really great the way you had laid all that out.

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Speaker 1: And so now the news across the state, which is good,

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Speaker 1: caught onto this story and many people are starting to cover.

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Speaker 1: Are you surprised at how the media caught onto this

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Speaker 1: story after your interview?

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Speaker 3: No, I'm not, and it just shows the breadth of

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Speaker 1: So we add the Capitol Chronicle on Casey Smith did

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Speaker 1: to everybody, including the special prosecutor herself, Holly Huddleson, who

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Speaker 1: is from Orange County, which is a neighboring county. Now,

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Speaker 1: to reset this in twenty four when you guys were

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Speaker 1: doing this investigation, did anybody give you any hint, Hey,

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Speaker 1: she's having reservations, she's got concerns about this eighty page

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Speaker 2: From her side or her office?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not quite the contrary rob the information that was

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Speaker 3: learned through the internal investigation indicated by three detectives from

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Speaker 1: Is that normal does a prosecutor throughout the process? Are

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Sure, then she did that. She wanted wanted Jeff to

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Speaker 3: follow up on several facets of the investigation to prove intent.

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Speaker 1: So she was communicating with him and at no point

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not know their emails, text message, just phone conversations.

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Speaker 3: Jeff never talked to her independently by himself. He was

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Speaker 1: Okay, So, according to the Indiana Capitol Chronicle, they interviewed

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Speaker 1: But she doesn't appear to offer any sort of reason

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's absolutely correct. And the question would be,

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Speaker 1: Because one of the things with us. Doug Carter is

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Speaker 2: No charges were ultimately filed.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that I think has a lot

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Speaker 1: Is there normally some big expose from the prosecutor, especially

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Speaker 3: Completely unprecedented. And the meeting that was held to come

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Speaker 1: It became pretty clear to you, I don't think this

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Speaker 3: No, this was after he was already completed the probable

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Speaker 1: But the original guy who wasn't even involved in the

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Speaker 3: That's correct. I don't understand that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, very good, thanks the answer the question case you

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm curious after the probable cause affidavit was tabled

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Speaker 3: Oh? I don't think there's any question about that. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean the facts, the facts are the facts here.

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Speaker 1: And hey too, we're in a team together, mister Superintendent

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Speaker 2: Josh Kelly doesn't like congratulations.

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Speaker 3: That I resort to lies in a desperate attempt to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought that was really bad look for Josh Kelly.

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't have again my dog in the fight.

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Speaker 3: Here is the truth and what happened on my watch.

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Speaker 3: And this is not about ninety nine point nine percent

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is about your guy.

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Speaker 3: And I tried to communicate with the current superintendent about

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Speaker 5: You kind of tiptoed up to this.

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Speaker 4: I'm curious what sort of precedent now does this set

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Speaker 3: They need to be aware of this. They certainly need

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Speaker 2: Well, and that's a great question, casey.

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Speaker 1: And there's the other aspect of this too, which is

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Speaker 3: If they happen they say that the investigation was complete

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: That's absolutely a ridiculous statement. And I rob Casey, I've

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Speaker 5: Go ahead, case you said you're not going to walk

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Speaker 4: Okay, So you have come out, You came out on

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Speaker 5: What do you want to come of this?

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Speaker 3: I want them to tell the truth. That's all I

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Speaker 5: Reopen the case.

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Speaker 3: Oh I think it should be reviewed again, Absolutely I do.

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Speaker 3: Well, it appears that she never acknowledged or took or

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Speaker 3: I don't know what that means to the legal process

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Speaker 1: Because that was my question to you, was it does

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Speaker 2: Could it still be open?

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Speaker 3: I have the initial Affidavid from before before Holly asked

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Rob, this isn't make believe. You know, if somebody

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Speaker 3: Well, as everyone knows, we've had a pretty tough time

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Speaker 1: You you know everybody that everybody will hear this. What

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Speaker 3: That's a good question, Rob, And I guess I haven't

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Speaker 1: Well, well, no better time than now, Doug's there's only

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Speaker 3: No pressure, no pressure, right, no pressure. I would I

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Speaker 2: So if the's got questions.

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Speaker 1: Sure, Oh A guy like me, like you fill off

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Speaker 3: Well after January thirteenth, I'm just a guy in the

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Speaker 3: But I really think there's a learning opportunities here and

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Speaker 3: it's just been a very difficult period of time. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was.

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Speaker 1: I was really pissed off about that statement from the

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Speaker 2: And so one thing.

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Speaker 3: I'd like to know Rob, Yes, did anybody from from

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Speaker 3: That question has not been asked because I never have

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Speaker 3: Josh apparently has a significant amount of emails that go

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Speaker 2: Request, well but they probably before they were in the government.

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Speaker 3: Well the other thing that they could do is just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing. They need to come out.

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Speaker 1: That is you're absolute, hundred percent right. They do those things,

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Speaker 3: Home and they need to know what occurred during that

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Speaker 3: meeting with Holly Huddlestains, What was that conversation? Like, It's

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Speaker 3: not been documented anywhere that I'm aware of, So what

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Speaker 3: actually occurred there? And I was a superintendent for twelve years,

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Speaker 2: All right, well you know why, but we'll keep it going.

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Speaker 3: I'm giving him the benefit of the You're.

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Speaker 1: You're too good for that. You've interviewed too many people,

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Speaker 1: you know what's up? All right, Doug Carter. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: we'll have you back on soon. I don't think the

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Hey, it's good to be with you. I'll have a

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Speaker 3: good weekend. Thank you.

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Speaker 5: It's Kennilly Casey on ninety three WIBC.

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Speaker 2: Why is everybody changing their logos?

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Speaker 5: Now, that's the thing to do right now, But why

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Speaker 5: I don't get it. Freshen up.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we did the.

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Speaker 1: Cracker barrel story yesterday with that logo is ugliest sin and.

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Speaker 4: You weren't not the old one, the new one, the

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Speaker 2: Like what look again, I'm mister nostalgia, right, so I

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Speaker 1: I still live next to the house I grew up

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Speaker 1: But if something.

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Speaker 2: Works, why would you mess with it?

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Speaker 5: I've changed the logo before.

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Speaker 5: It was a radio station logo.

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Speaker 2: How long had it been?

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Speaker 5: The logo for thirty plus years?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we kept the same font. We just kind of

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Speaker 4: But the intent of that refresh was because we were

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Speaker 1: Wait, wit, does anybody listen to a radio station because

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Speaker 2: Is that a thing?

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Speaker 1: so I'm not going to listen to Rob and Casey anymore?

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Speaker 1: I don't understand this, Like like I thinking and think

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Speaker 4: At sin taxpayer pays right, because all of the papers

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Speaker 2: Who cares what the logo is.

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Speaker 1: I remember having this conversation when I was an elected

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Speaker 4: So Notre Dame has now revamped their iconic leprechawn logo

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Speaker 2: Okay, so for those of you who don't know or

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Speaker 1: The iconic Notre Dame logo is the leprechaun with this

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Speaker 5: Sixty years ago, and throughout all.

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Speaker 1: this has been the damn logo and it's great you see.

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Speaker 5: Has their name, right, Okay.

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Speaker 4: rebranding initiative and each varsity sport is now going to

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Speaker 1: Like some kids like, okay, it's down to Tennessee or Notre.

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Speaker 1: is not There's not a single person who didn't come

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Speaker 1: to Note Jame because they're like that logo that Leprekun

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Speaker 1: has his fists up. Okay, so we're taking that. You're

447
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Speaker 1: telling me that you think they're gonna they think they're

448
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Speaker 1: gonna sell more merch if some guy's holding a football

449
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Speaker 1: versus having a scause.

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Speaker 4: They're going to do it for all the different sports.

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Speaker 4: And my guess is that there will be a leprechaun

452
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Speaker 4: with a soccer ball, one with the volleyball, doing lacrosse.

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Speaker 2: Everything's about money, isn't it.

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Speaker 4: So that okay, you've got your Notre Dame merch, but

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Speaker 4: you're going to a soccer game, you better have the

456
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Speaker 4: leprechaun with the soccer.

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Speaker 1: Everyone should boycott this. That's how you'll stop it. Just

458
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Speaker 1: refuse to participate. Some things have to stay the same, Casey,

459
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Speaker 1: I may be losing the farmland to data centers, and

460
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Speaker 1: everything may be changing in my life, but I am

461
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Speaker 1: not losing the Notre Dame.

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Speaker 5: Well never Gon.

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Speaker 4: It is Kendall and Casey, it's ninety three WYBC.

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Speaker 2: So it's time for an audience favorite.

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Speaker 1: Well, we're heading into the weekend, so we wanted to

466
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Speaker 1: give the people what they want. It's the segment where

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Speaker 1: we crap all over Diego Morales.

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Speaker 5: Oh is that all we're doing?

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Speaker 4: Ah?

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Speaker 1: You know, it's a heavily requested It's like, you know,

471
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Speaker 1: going to the Rolling Stones concert. You'd be mad if

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Speaker 1: you left and didn't get satisfaction. So basically, us taking

473
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Speaker 1: a dump on Diego every day is our version of

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Speaker 1: satisfaction for the audience, and that's what he deserves. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, he's horrible at photo at cropping photos.

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Speaker 2: Have you seen this new photo?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so he posted this.

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Speaker 1: And for those of you who don't know, Diego Morales

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Speaker 1: is the Secretary of State here in Indiana. He is

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Speaker 1: a we have dubbed him grifter or us and for

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Speaker 1: a variety of reasons, I want to make sure we

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Speaker 1: have time to get to all the things I want

484
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Speaker 1: to get to this segment. So most of you are

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Speaker 1: aware of all the litany of issues with Diego. One

486
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Speaker 1: of them is he always seems to be getting photographed

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Speaker 1: with foreigners, and sometimes it's even.

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Speaker 2: In foreign countries.

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Speaker 1: Yes, However, Diego is very short I'm five eight and

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Speaker 1: I tower over him. Remember that photo of us together

491
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Speaker 1: when we were discussing one of the litany of issues

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Speaker 1: related to Diego. There's very few people on this earth

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Speaker 1: that I tower over. He's got to be five three

494
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Speaker 1: at best. He's got to be five three, right, And

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Speaker 1: he clearly has a complex about it, which I don't

496
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Speaker 1: know why. It's like I'm short, you know, like you

497
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Speaker 1: just know it, you laugh at it. Whatever, He's got

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Speaker 1: some complex about it. Because people started noticing in these

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Speaker 1: photos he was standing on his tippy toes, Like all

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Speaker 1: these photos he's with people, he's standing on his tippy toes. Dude,

501
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Speaker 1: you're tiny, Okay, everybody knows it, you know, all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden they become shack.

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Speaker 5: That's how he got the nickname Tiptoe Diego.

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Speaker 1: Right, right, So now apparently he photographed he's photographed with

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Speaker 1: some who are these people that are Japanese japan honored

506
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Speaker 1: to be a part of the Japan America Society of Indiana,

507
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Speaker 1: Like that is a giant red flag.

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Speaker 5: But they had somebody chugging a beer in the background

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Speaker 5: picture that.

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Speaker 2: Somebody pointed that out to me.

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Speaker 1: They're like, have you noticed the guy you know, drowning

512
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Speaker 1: a cold one in the down in a cold one

513
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Speaker 1: in the background, And I've retweeted at Rob Kende if

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Speaker 1: you want to see it, and.

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Speaker 2: It's these two Japanese guys.

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Speaker 1: The one guy looks like he's trying to hold in

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Speaker 1: the laughter of whatever bull crap Diego has just spewed

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Speaker 1: upon him.

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Speaker 2: And the other guy has one of the challenge coins he.

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Speaker 5: Does, he's holding it up in the picture. They just

521
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Speaker 5: all look completely uncomfortable.

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Speaker 1: We wouldn't you be if you have to spend seven

523
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Speaker 1: seconds around Diego Morales, you would be uncomfortable too, because

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Speaker 1: he is uncomfortable.

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Speaker 2: But what I love about this photo is they.

526
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Speaker 1: Have gone to effort clearly to crop out his feet

527
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Speaker 1: like the Armenian mob got him or something.

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Speaker 2: Right like like you could clear.

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Speaker 1: But you can see somebody, I love our audience, multiple

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Speaker 1: people from our audience zoomed in and even though.

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Speaker 2: They're doing right now, have kropts feet. You can see

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Speaker 2: he's on his tiptoes.

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Speaker 5: He is bouncing just a little bit.

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Speaker 1: You can see if somebody pointed out to me like

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Speaker 1: they drew an arrow. It was like the Zapruder film, right,

536
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 1: like they drew an arrow, and they said, you can

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Speaker 1: see space under his heels.

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Speaker 4: Right, looks like he's wearing like a soft soled shoe,

539
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Speaker 4: almost like a colehon Or, some sort of comfortable dress shoe.

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Speaker 1: Diego, The staff stinks at photo at photograph again.

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Speaker 2: Stop just stop standing on your tiptoes.

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Speaker 5: Stop passing out coins.

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Speaker 1: Everyone knows you're a tiny human, both in stature and

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Speaker 1: in your humanity, very tiny in many aspects. You're not

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Speaker 1: gonna hide it from anybody, from one short guy to another.

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Speaker 2: Just as Paul McCartney said, let it be, Let it be.

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Speaker 4: So he was at the Japan America Society of Indiana Gaala,

548
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Speaker 4: they what do you think happened there? It was like,

549
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Speaker 4: was there a disc jockey, which he's got a good

550
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Speaker 4: friend who's a disc jockey now because he gave that

551
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Speaker 4: person a coin recently, Like were they spinning some tunes?

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Speaker 5: I'm just some music? What goes on there?

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Speaker 1: Thing with this guy is just ridiculous to the point

554
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Speaker 1: now where he didn't stop standing on his tippy toes.

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Speaker 2: Which would be the normal thing to do.

556
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Speaker 1: He's just now cutting his feet off again, as though

557
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Speaker 1: some Armenian mobster got him and that's the new I

558
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: guess Diego photo. Imo, look, Diego, we're not stopping. Just

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Speaker 1: stop pulling a bull crap. Just take a photo of

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Speaker 1: you standing like a normal human. It'll be fine, Everything

561
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Speaker 1: will be great.

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Speaker 2: It's okay, okay, So I speak of Diego.

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Speaker 1: I did want to touch on this because Indie Star

564
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Speaker 1: had a big story about this that bo Bi, who

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Speaker 1: is one of two sons of Evan by the former

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Speaker 1: governor and senator from the state of Indiana. It appears

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Speaker 1: to be ready to take the plunge into some sort

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Speaker 1: of political endeavor. Don't know exactly what it is. The

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Speaker 1: big rumors that he is going to run for Secretary

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Speaker 1: of State. But he has now hit the podcast and

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Speaker 1: speaker circuit on a Democrat functions and we'll disclose it.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he will care. I had a lovely

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Speaker 1: little back and forth with him the other day. I

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Speaker 1: think he's going to come on this show in the

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Speaker 1: near future. I'd never actually met him in person before,

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Speaker 1: and so we just messaged each other back and forth.

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Speaker 1: It was he said he's a big listener of the

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Speaker 1: show actually, which was pleasant to hear, and he said

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Speaker 1: he'd be happy to get together and we'll hopefully have

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Speaker 1: him on in the near future. Look, I've said this

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Speaker 1: for a while and I mean this with every fiber

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Speaker 1: of my being.

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Speaker 2: The best thing that would happen to.

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Speaker 1: This state is for if you are if you are

585
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Speaker 1: upset at how you have been governed by the Republicans

586
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Speaker 1: until they taken for granted and dismissed as a conservative,

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Speaker 1: the best thing to happen in this state would be

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Speaker 1: for Bobi to run for Secretary of State and for

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Speaker 1: him to depanse Diego Morales, which I believe he would

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Speaker 1: probably be able to do, and for there to be

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Speaker 1: a Democrat in a state wide office that the Republicans

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Speaker 1: high profile office too, that the Republicans would be forced

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Speaker 1: to engage with because bo by winning and I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying like I'm a super fan, and we probably there's

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00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 1: a bunch of things we don't agree on, but we have

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Speaker 1: to at some point send a message to these Republicans

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Speaker 1: that you have to stop taking us for granted.

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Speaker 2: Why do the govern the way they do?

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Speaker 1: Why do they govern around high taxes and bigger government

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Speaker 1: and legalized vote buying and donors and lobbyists as they

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Speaker 1: can because they can, because they believe you will roll

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Speaker 1: over and play dead and do whatever they tell you

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Speaker 1: to do at the end of the day, that you're

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Speaker 1: so afraid of a Democrat that you will do whatever

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Speaker 1: they say. And this would be the perfect way, the

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Speaker 1: perfect way to send a message to these people would

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Speaker 1: be for Evan Buy's son to get elected to an

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Speaker 1: office that not only oversees elections but also businesses. And

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Speaker 1: just for purely selfish reasons, I want him to run.

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Speaker 1: You don't think the buy machine will figure out who

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Speaker 1: paid for Diego to go to India. You don't think

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Speaker 1: the buy machine and all the money that's going to

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Speaker 1: roll into the look bo Baye's son just like he's

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Speaker 1: going to run for secretary of State, there will be

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Speaker 1: a gad jillion dollars that will flood in to help him,

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Speaker 1: because by Democrat standards in this state, he's going to

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Speaker 1: be an A plus candidate and he's going to run

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Speaker 1: against a complete grifter, uh, unethical zero.

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Speaker 5: Okay, it's Evan by Son. I just wanted to correct

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Speaker 5: you on that. You said, bow bye son is the son?

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Speaker 2: Thank you? So he was speaking way I wanted to

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Speaker 2: tell her.

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Speaker 1: By Casey has been given strict orders if rob says

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Speaker 1: something inaccurate.

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Speaker 2: Point it out.

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Speaker 1: This is this is not some woman. Hear me, roar

627
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Speaker 1: thing from Casey. She has been given truck.

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Speaker 5: Keeping us out of trouble. That's what I do.

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Speaker 2: That's correct.

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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Speaker 4: So he was speaking at this Democratic dinner in French Lick.

632
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Speaker 4: He was talking about topics like rebuilding the middle class

633
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Speaker 4: and also restoring trust in politics. He said we need

634
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Speaker 4: more unity, less division, more public interest, less special interest. However,

635
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Speaker 4: he was not specific on what he was going to

636
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Speaker 4: run for. Was like he was putting his big toe

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Speaker 4: in the pond.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 4: Keep in mind that Evan By his father former senate campaign,

640
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 4: holds two million dollars, so if he is.

641
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Speaker 5: Officially entering the ring, he's doing it with a little

642
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 5: bit of bank roll already. Now a lot of people

643
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Speaker 5: are saying.

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Speaker 1: Real quick, I don't mean to cut you off, but

645
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Speaker 1: I think that's you hit on a very interesting point,

646
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Speaker 1: which is Diego braggs about all this money he's been

647
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Speaker 1: able to raise, and we've raised a whole bunch of

648
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Speaker 1: red flags about some of that money and why Eby

649
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: should be concerned about it. But you're right, the Bye

650
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: family are the one group that can go Oh that's cute.

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Speaker 2: How about you take a look at this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, he was not specific on what office he

653
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Speaker 4: was looking at. And you had mentioned a lot of

654
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Speaker 4: people are thinking it's secretary of state. We know the

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Speaker 4: secretary of state overseas elections. I'm wondering how people in

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Speaker 4: Indiana will receive that based.

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Speaker 5: On twenty twenty election.

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Speaker 4: Well, look to have a Democrat overseeing elections, Like, I'm

659
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Speaker 4: really curious if he's really not eyeing something else.

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Speaker 1: Well, okay, sole couple things and you know, obviously I'm

661
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Speaker 1: you know, I just let it go over here, right case.

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Speaker 1: So a couple things. One and I said this with

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Speaker 1: David Shelton the other day, who was challenging Diego at

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Speaker 1: the convention on the Republican side, I would vote for

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Speaker 1: an aged potato skin over Diego Morales. As in, if

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Speaker 1: the ballot red, Morales v potato skin, I would vote

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Speaker 1: for the age potato skin. So Shelton can't get it

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Speaker 1: done at the convention, i'm'll be all in on this, dude. Plus,

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Speaker 1: if he gets in there, think about he gets the

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Speaker 1: keys and he can open up all the bull crap

671
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: that Diego's pulled. That in and of itself would make

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00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: me vote for the guy, just for some Democrat to

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Speaker 1: get the keys to see exactly what's going on in

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Speaker 1: that office and all the emails and all the other

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Speaker 1: stuff and all that the things that go with it.

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Speaker 1: But also somebody to fight with the Republicans. Somebody when

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00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: the Republicans are stepping out of line, which we all

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00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: know they do all the time on a variety of issues, somebody,

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00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: an opposition voice in a position of prominence, to be

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00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: able to raise their hand and say, here's what's going

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00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: on society. Look, they'll control him, the Republicans, because I

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00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: don't know if you know this case, he certainly not

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00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: with our current secretary of state. The secretary of State

684
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: is an administrative position. It doesn't have any actual legislative power.

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00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: It enforces the will of the General Assembly. So they

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00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: will be able to the day being the General Assembly

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Speaker 1: will be able to pass whatever they want to pass.

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00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: He can't stop it, but boy, it sure would be

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Speaker 1: fun to watch somebody finally stand up to these dudes.

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Speaker 1: And so if Shelton can't get it done a convention

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Speaker 1: and it's by the morales, count me all in on

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Speaker 1: buy because you know I'm a sucker for nostalgia. Two, Casey,

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Speaker 1: I'd like to go back to the Evan Bye by

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Speaker 1: the way.

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Speaker 4: Well, speaking of nostalgia, do you think that there's any

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00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 4: possibility instead of looking at Secretary of State, he's going

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00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 4: to try and reclaim his father's Senate seat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I just think that's I think Diego because he's

699
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: such a grifter, and he's so crazzy pick and he's

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00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: so unethical. If you were going to make and it's

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00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: an off your election, and if you got people pissed

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00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: off about the jerrymandering and everything else you get in

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00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: a presidential your election, which the governor is, that's going

704
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: to be a heavy lift. If you were going to strike,

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00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: there's no better guy for a buye to strike against

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Speaker 1: than Diego Morales. Plus, wouldn't it be fun to see

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Speaker 1: how many votes we could cost Diego. Wouldn't that be

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00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: a fun little game we could play next to your Casey.

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Speaker 4: He's described as a magnetic speaker who captivates the room.

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00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 4: He is younger twenty nine, so there's a lot of

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Speaker 4: potential there. And obviously he's got plenty of name recognition and.

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Speaker 1: Look, people are like, oh rober, look, I'm not naive

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Speaker 1: to what's going on here. I want the Republicans to

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00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: be challenged. I want Diego held accountable. I want the

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Speaker 1: truth on stuff to come out. Like I'm not naive

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Speaker 1: to think, oh bo bye, he's gonna be so awesome

717
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: and he's gonna be just wonderful, and I'm not naive

718
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: to that. But what I do want is the crap

719
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Speaker 1: to stop. And clearly, the way they have jerrymandered these

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00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: House and Senate districts, they're gonna do it again with

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00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: the congressional districts.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be.

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Speaker 1: Very hard other than these statewide type of offices to

724
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Speaker 1: start making a dent in this armor. And I think

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00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: this guy is the best chance possible. Now, look, in

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00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: an ideal world, David Shelton's hyper qualified. I think he's great.

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00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: He'll just win at convention. We'll be done with Diego

728
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: audio c and we'll get it that way. But I'm

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00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: all in on whatever it takes to get some answers.

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Speaker 4: I think Diego has his eyes on something else as well.

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Speaker 4: Democrats have not won a statewide election since twenty twelve,

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Speaker 4: so it's gonna be a heavy lift challenge.

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Speaker 5: Accepted case, the guy that can re infigorate the party.

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Speaker 2: We gotta gotta break.

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Speaker 5: It's kind of a casey. It's ninety three WIBC.

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Speaker 2: You can't have an offer to some people if you're

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Speaker 2: ready for this.

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Speaker 1: Casey, Yeah, I think this is a This is a

739
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Speaker 1: great way for everybody to come and heal together.

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Speaker 2: Are you ready?

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Speaker 1: Yes, let's get on Casey, Jo Rob, that's Casey so.

742
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Speaker 4: So.

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Speaker 1: I was told by the governor when he he over

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00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: at the state party headquarters, when he informed me that

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00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,720
Speaker 1: he was going to screw millions of people and sign

746
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 1: off on that property tax bill. One of the things

747
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: I told him is, I said, you are going to

748
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Speaker 1: unleash a flood of school referendums across this state, and

749
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: a bunch of people aren't going to wait for your

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00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: little bull crap. It's got to be an even year. Sourby,

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00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: I'll show up to vote thing. They're gonna flush it

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00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 1: through this year. And he's like, Oh, that's talk going

753
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,280
Speaker 1: to happen. I said, okay, cool, and Micah and Sherry

754
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: is chief of staff, were sitting there and Josh Kelly,

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Speaker 1: I said, cool, So you're going to sign up and

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00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: knock on doors?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,919
Speaker 1: In these places when they happen. Oh yeah, I said,

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Speaker 1: are y'all y'all hearing this? And then Micah when he

760
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: was still come on our show, said he would knock

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Speaker 1: on doors, right unless I just imagine that. So the

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00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 1: Avon school people have reached out to me or the

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Speaker 1: Avon town members because they are one of these dastardly

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00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: little school corporations that is sprinting to a referendum this fall,

765
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Speaker 1: and they have asked me to help them because you know,

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Speaker 1: I am the referendum killer Casey. Nobody kills referendums like me.

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Speaker 5: You've got the experience.

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Speaker 2: So here is what I've said.

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Speaker 1: Because I've beat not one, but two, how many people

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Speaker 1: can say they beat him in two separate communities.

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00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 2: Here's what I have said.

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00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: Since the Gov and the Lieutenant Gov have both told

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Speaker 1: me that they were willing to personally knock on doors

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Speaker 1: to defeat school referendums, I am offering to bring us

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00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 1: all together in a perfect storm of anti referendum pro

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Speaker 1: taxpayer harmony.

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Speaker 2: They can pick the day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be a Monday, it could be a Saturday,

779
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: it could be a Friday. You pick the day, Gov

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00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: and Lieutenant Gov. Whatever day you want. To join me

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Speaker 1: in Avon and will go out and we'll knock on

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00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: those doors together. I'll even show them how to do

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00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: it all, even with all my extra days.

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Speaker 2: If they're really serious.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine what a triangle of terror defeating a referendum?

786
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: That would be the governor the Lieutenant Governor Rob Kendall

787
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: from WIBC, using Avon and their egregious sneaky behavior as

788
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: an example, knocking on doors in the community, putting out flyers,

789
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 1: offer extended.

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00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 5: Yes, okay, how long do we have before Well, I mean.

791
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 2: You got the election that's coming up this fall, so

792
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 2: we got to move pretty quick.

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00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 4: Right.

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00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 1: People are gonna start making up their minds early morning

795
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: starts in October, so we basically got the month of

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00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: September to help these great people out in Avon. And

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00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: I Rob Kendall as we head into the weekend, a

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00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:35,240
Speaker 1: beautiful well joined forbsolutely anything to defeat school referendum. Mister governor,

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00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: Lieutenant Governor, you made the offer. The ball I have accepted.

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00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 1: The ball is now in your core.

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Speaker 5: Huh Okay, hey you got called into the boss's office.

802
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is it for us.

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00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 5: It's not Thursday, though, I think you're okay.

804
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 2: This is it for us. It's been fun working with you.

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00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, good luck.

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00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 4: With that meeting, and that's gonna do it for us today,

807
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Speaker 4: maybe forever, you never know. Thank you, Rob, Thank you Kevin,

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Speaker 4: Thank you for listening. It has been Kendley Casey on

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Speaker 4: ninety two read w I B C