1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Now that's the conversation we should be having on this program. 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 2: I know, maybe we'll get to that later. 3 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: But hey, speaking of screwing people over, let's turn our 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: attention back to state government. 5 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 3: So Indiana Governor Mike Braun he announced that Jennifer Ruth 6 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 3: Green is stepping down as Secretary of Public Safety. It's 7 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 3: really his first big cabinet shakeup, isn't it. 8 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: But he didn't say why. 9 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 2: No, he did not. 10 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 4: Okay, So Jennifer Ruth Green is a failed congressional candidate. 11 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 4: You know us case. We don't sugarcoat it. We just 12 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 4: tell you what's going on. That's why the people love us. 13 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 4: She's a failed congressional candidate. 14 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 1: No problem. People run all the time, they lose. 15 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 4: My issue with the government is our government, and it 16 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 4: seems like at all levels is just littered with people 17 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 4: who fail upwards Like right, like you ran for public office. 18 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 4: You had your opportunity to be judged by the voters. 19 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 4: They said thank you, but no. 20 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: Thank you. What happened? She got a two hundred and 21 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: seventy five thousand dollars job in the plus benefits in 22 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: the Braun administration, and here eight months later you go 23 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: from failed congressional candidate to two hundred and seventy five 24 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: thousand dollars cushy job. 25 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 4: In the Braun administration. And then you just quit with 26 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 4: no reason given. Now like I'm taking a job over here. 27 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 4: It's not like my life's calling to be on the 28 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 4: food network has come true. 29 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: Like nothing. 30 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 4: And then she tried to get squirrely. And this is 31 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 4: when people and this is why people love us, because we. 32 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: Trying to put a good face on it. 33 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 4: She posts this photo of herself like in a military 34 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 4: what appears to be a military garb of some sort, 35 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 4: and what she says something like time for to report 36 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 4: or time for service. 37 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:37,199 Speaker 2: Yea, she said. 38 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 3: Secretary Scott, who is going to be her replacement, will 39 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 3: do an amazing job in the position, and I look 40 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 3: forward to watching his successes. 41 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: I'm off to military duty. 42 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 3: Always a privilege to wear the uniform, uh huh, and 43 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 3: I'm excited for the future. 44 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 4: Okay, so you're not giving noris Braun any reason. 45 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 3: I got to tell you the hashtag, by the way, 46 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 3: hashtag battle proven leadership. 47 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 4: Oh okay, so you're not giving any reason why you're quitting. 48 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 4: Is not giving any reason why you're quitting and you're 49 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 4: posting a photo of yourself in a military garb saying 50 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 4: you're going to service. I don't think it would be 51 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 4: a stretch to say that they hear, they whatever, wouldn't 52 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 4: be disappointed if people thought those two things were in 53 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 4: coordination with each other, that the military service was somehow. 54 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: Tied to the quitting Am I am I wrong on 55 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: that like that? 56 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 4: That they would not that that's just a big coincidence 57 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 4: there right. However, the Capitol Chronicle said, ah, not so fast. 58 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 4: The Military service green reference is not a deployment, but 59 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 4: routine National Guard duty expected to last only a week 60 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 4: or two. So we now throw out of the equation 61 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 4: that you like Jim Banks did when he was a 62 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 4: senator and legitimately was you know, was called up. I 63 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 4: believe Afghanistan was where he had to go. He did 64 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 4: resign his position as a senator, his wife took the office. 65 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 4: It was made very clear, you know, I'm going because 66 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 4: my country's calling me. I'm doing this out of obli gation. 67 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 4: You know, thank you, I'll see you when I get back. 68 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 4: This is not that what person gives up a cushy 69 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 4: two hundred and seventy five thousand dollars job with a 70 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 4: ton of power plus benefits after only being there for 71 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 4: eight months, and there's no reason given about where you're 72 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 4: going or why any wait. 73 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 2: What what's your phrase? Maybe it was all the up she. 74 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: Could No, I don't think if you're making two hundred 75 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: and seventy five thous I think there was probably a 76 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: lot more up which she could have taken. You wouldn't. 77 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: You can't even fathom the amount of up I'd be 78 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: able to deal with for two hundred and seventy five 79 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. Okay, So I was told by a very 80 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: reliable source, Oh boy, someone that I really trust. And 81 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: eventually people figure out in that state House, we have 82 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: the birdiese chirp, chirp everywhere, and there's lots of people 83 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: who just quietly sit at their desks and do their 84 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: jobs and push their papers, and they loathe the people 85 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: that they have to work for and unders this is 86 00:03:58,440 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: why we get all this information. 87 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 2: Oh. 88 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 4: I was told by a very reliable source that allegedly 89 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 4: there was potentially an ethics investigation of some sort going 90 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 4: on into that office, and allegedly Jennifer Ruth Green didn't 91 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 4: enter work Friday morning, knowing that she would no longer 92 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 4: be working come Friday evening. 93 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 3: Okay, so she had no idea this was coming allegedly allegedly. 94 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 4: Pretty good source. This person's been writing a lot of 95 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 4: stuff before. But when you're quitting a two hundred and 96 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 4: seventy five thousand dollars job with no explanation whatsoever, and 97 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 4: I don't buy for a second that what they're trying 98 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 4: to be, Oh, she's going to run for Congress. You 99 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 4: can run for Congress whenever you want. You know, when 100 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 4: you quit that job, when you make the announcement and 101 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 4: you start fundraising and you start going out. She wasn't 102 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 4: doing that. She's clearly going to military duty. It clearly 103 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 4: wasn't that she was going to be deployed long term. 104 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 4: If she's going to be running for Congress, something doesn't 105 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 4: smell right about all this. Casey and here on the 106 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 4: Kendall and Casey Show, we're not just going to clap 107 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 4: like seals and go, oh, thank you so much if 108 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 4: something doesn't smell right to us. 109 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 3: In the interim, you've got the Indiana State Police Superintendent 110 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 3: Anthony Scott, who will take on an expanded role as 111 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 3: the Secretary of Public safety. 112 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 2: So he's going to do both. 113 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,799 Speaker 4: So let's talk about Anthony Scott for a second, Showie, 114 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 4: Let's talk again about how this just always conveniently works out. 115 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 4: So Anthony Scott was named the state Police superintendent at 116 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 4: the first of the year when Braun became the governor. 117 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 2: This was after Doug Carter resigned. 118 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: That's correct, retired friend of the show, Doug Carter. Yes. 119 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 4: And at the time Anthony Scott became the state Police superintendent, 120 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 4: Tom Kleinhelter, Mike Braun's close political ally, and the dw 121 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 4: Boys County sheriff was facing a special prosecutor and a 122 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,799 Speaker 4: probable cause at eighty page probable cause at put together 123 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 4: by the State Police under Doug Carter and a guy 124 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 4: with the name of Jeff here In, a thirty plus 125 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 4: ure decorated member of the Indiana State Police, and that 126 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 4: was related to allegations that Clein Helter misused commissary money, 127 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 4: amongst other things, to pay for plane tickets for his. 128 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: Wife to go on trips with him. 129 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 4: And there was an eighty page probable cause Dafi David 130 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 4: put together by state Police which was instigated by the 131 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 4: way on an investigation by State Board of accounts and 132 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 4: Carter's been on the show. Doug Carter, state Police superintendent, 133 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 4: then on our show, said felt it was an ironclad case, 134 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 4: felt great about it, had heard no objections from the 135 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 4: special prosecutor at the time. And then Anthony Scott becomes 136 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 4: State Police superintendent. And keep in mind, the guy in 137 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 4: an investigation is a close political ally of Governor Braun 138 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 4: Tom Kleinhelter and all of a sudden, despite the eighty 139 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 4: page probab will cause affidavit, but no charges against client 140 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 4: Helter are fired filed and hearing the detective, the decorated 141 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 4: thirty plus your member of law enforcement is reprimanded and 142 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 4: punished by with this position in the State Police. And 143 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 4: wouldn't you know case just a short time later, now 144 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 4: Anthony Scott not only is the State Police superintendent, he 145 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 4: also has this cabinet position, cabinet level position making two 146 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 4: hundred and seventy five thousand dollars. Are assume he'll be 147 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 4: making the same as she was, you know, equal pay 148 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 4: for equal work. 149 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,239 Speaker 1: That just worked out well for everyone. 150 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 4: So client Alter goes Scott free, the guy who did 151 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 4: the investigation, he gets demoted, and Anthony Scott ends up 152 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 4: in the cabinet. 153 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,559 Speaker 3: That's amazing how that all worked out, isn't it case? 154 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 3: Governor bron praise Scott. He said, Hoosiers will be safe 155 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 3: with him setting the tone for all public safety agencies. 156 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 3: So now he's going to juggle overseeing the entire states 157 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 3: public safety. So he's going to lead the state police 158 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 3: and have this cabinet level position as Secretary of public Safety? 159 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 2: How long will he do both? Which is the better job? 160 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 4: Well, this is the question that needs to be answered 161 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 4: and has not been answered. Is he now getting paid 162 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 4: to do both? Because that potentially could open up a 163 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 4: whole bunch of worms on what's allowed and what's not 164 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 4: with that? 165 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: Now? 166 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 4: Is he just volunteering in one of these positions? Is 167 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 4: he is he getting paid for just one of these positions? 168 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 4: Or is he getting paid both? And there was nothing 169 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 4: in any of these press releases that I saw that 170 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 4: answered whether that was the case or and how could 171 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 4: you do both effectively? 172 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? Is this a double dip? 173 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: Well, that's you dipped, you took. 174 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 3: A bite, and then you dipped again. 175 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is and that this needs to be clarified 176 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 4: how this guy's getting paid now what he's getting paid 177 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 4: for because of none of that. 178 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: None of that got explained. But it's look worked out. 179 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 4: Great for client Helter, worked out great for Braun, worked 180 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 4: out great for Anthony Scott. You know who didn't work 181 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 4: out for Jeff Hearing. Yeah, because he didn't get his 182 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 4: position back and his name's getting run through the mud 183 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 4: and that stinks. All right, when we come back, Casey, 184 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 4: I'm going to need you, as a veteran broadcaster, remember 185 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 4: of the media, to work through how we should handle 186 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 4: coverage of an event involving someone that we have talked 187 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 4: about multiple times on this program. 188 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 3: Okay, it's Kennilly Casey on ninety three WIBC. 189 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 4: All right, I need your help on how we should 190 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 4: cover this because I want to do this fair and 191 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 4: I want to do this right. And it's something we 192 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 4: haven't really gotten into, but I think it's a one 193 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 4: of the things we do about our shows. We delve 194 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 4: into a whole bunch of things that no other show, 195 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 4: no other people are going to And I think people 196 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 4: like our program because one or we're different. But we 197 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 4: also cover things that don't often get covered, and we 198 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 4: talk about things in ways that don't often get talked about. 199 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 4: And I have spent the past two or three days 200 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 4: learning a lot about or trying to learn a lot 201 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 4: about protective orders and how they work in the state 202 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 4: of Indiana. 203 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: So it came to my attention. 204 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 4: And so I want to work through this and see 205 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 4: if we're doing this the right way and what obligation 206 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 4: we have to tell the public and how we should 207 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 4: tell them, because I'm really torn on this. The more 208 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 4: I learn about how protective or how the protective order 209 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 4: process works in the state of Indiana. All right, So 210 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:43,719 Speaker 4: it came to my attention that we refer to him 211 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 4: as Lord Travis High, Ruler of the Town of Brownsburg. 212 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 4: His real name is is god given name is Travis 213 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 4: to Shane, the president of the Brownsburg Town Council. Now 214 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 4: he is the guy who infamously got me removed from 215 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 4: the council meeting because I asked the UDESSI ask how 216 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 4: an item gets on the agenda for the agenda meeting 217 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 4: of the meetings that I'm paying for, And the cop 218 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 4: was like, what happened here? And then when I told 219 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 4: you what happened, well, he didn't believe. 220 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: Me at first. 221 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 4: And then the chief of police came out and was like, yeah, 222 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 4: that's what happened. And then they were like, oh yeah, 223 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 4: go back in there and ask it again anyway, which 224 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 4: is neither here nor there. But Travis D'shane is his name. 225 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 4: There was It came to my attention that there was 226 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 4: a protective order filed against him on it appears to 227 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 4: be August the fifth of this year, and it says 228 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 4: that he was it appears to respondent successfully served on 229 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 4: August the sixth. Now, what I have learned about Indiana 230 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 4: the protective orders is that this is just the filed 231 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 4: is just the opening salvo in this and that basically 232 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 4: anybody can minor saying, can file for a protective order 233 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 4: against anybody else. And I'm trying to put this together 234 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 4: as best I can with the law enforcement I talked to, etc. 235 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 4: It's very complicated. And even the people in law enforcement 236 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 4: I talked to he are like, yes, this is very 237 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 4: complicated that anybody can file for a protective order against 238 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 4: anybody else and it still has to go in front 239 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 4: of a judge in order to whether the protective order 240 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 4: would be granted, which is my understanding looking at this. 241 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 4: And by the way, this is all available on public record. 242 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 4: You can search protective orders in the Indiana Court system. 243 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 4: It's not anything that I got that was by you know, 244 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 4: nefarious means or whatever. Somebody looked it up, saw it, 245 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 4: sent it to me. I did my best to confirm 246 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 4: confirmed it was real, and we went from there. I, 247 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 4: by the way, did reach out to Travis, to Shane, 248 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 4: President Brownsborg, toown council yesterday said would you like to 249 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 4: offer a comment clarification, let us know what you want 250 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 4: us to tell the public about this, because we were 251 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 4: going to talk about it. He did not respond to me, 252 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 4: so we did our best to try to get information 253 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 4: and he didn't offer anything, which is fine, that's his right. However, 254 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 4: that then leaves us in the dark because we don't 255 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 4: know who filed this, we don't know why, and we 256 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 4: don't know any of the background on it. We don't 257 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 4: know is it going to be fought, is it going 258 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 4: to be objected to? We don't know any of this. 259 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 4: So my question to you is. 260 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: Casey, it's a public document, correct, He's a public figure. 261 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: He's the running a town of thirty thousand ish people. 262 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: We have an obligation. And I asked this on social 263 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: media over the weekend before I released who. 264 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 4: It was and the public. I said does the public 265 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 4: have a right to know about this? Because it does 266 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 4: sort of feel like you haven't had a chance to 267 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 4: face your accuser yet we don't even know who the 268 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 4: accuser was yet this document is in there. But does 269 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 4: the public have the right to know because he's an 270 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 4: office holder and the people overwhelming without knowing who it was, 271 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 4: said yes, we would have the right and should have 272 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 4: the right to right to community leaders is facing this. 273 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 4: But I struggle with this because I don't have any 274 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 4: facts of the case other than this document. 275 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 3: Correct, Okay, so hey, there are steps that go need 276 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 3: to go through, right, You got to file the petition. 277 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 2: And then it gets before a judge. 278 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 3: There's possibly a full hearing, and then the judge decides 279 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 3: whether to issue a final order and conditions. At this 280 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 3: point in the process, all we are aware of is 281 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 3: that a petition has been filed. 282 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 4: I was also told again by these people who are 283 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 4: trying to help me work through this, and we're simplifying, 284 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 4: Like I spent quite a bit of time trying to 285 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 4: figure all this out, that if a petition is deemed ridiculous, 286 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 4: like because you have to provide information, et cetera. When 287 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 4: you're parting this format that's my understanding. I could be 288 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 4: wrong on this. 289 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: Again. This is just the information that I was given 290 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: trying to. 291 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 4: Talk with people in law enforce about this, that if 292 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 4: it's deemed completely ridiculous, a judge. 293 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: Can can slap it down. 294 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 2: Before it ever gets to a hearing. 295 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 4: And by the way, if you go on the state website, 296 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 4: you can see it appears here which like you names 297 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 4: cases whatever, whether they were approved or or not. Like 298 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 4: there's a little circle with an X or a what 299 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 4: looks like a clock on him, and I believe that's approved, 300 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 4: and then the one that not approved is there. You 301 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 4: can look all this stuff up for yourself. So that's 302 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 4: that's what I struggled with, is I don't want I'm 303 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 4: not in any way insinuating something did or did not happen. 304 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 4: I don't even know who's filing or for what. But 305 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 4: it was like, this is a this is a leader 306 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 4: of a community, not just did that. He's the guy's 307 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 4: a public figure, he's a leader of the community. 308 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: Should we talk about this. 309 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 4: Does the public have the right to know given how 310 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 4: little information we can actually or we actually have available 311 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 4: to us right now? 312 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 3: Well, I think the public does have our right to know, 313 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 3: and that's why it's on public dot courts, dot I 314 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 3: in dot gov. You can research this for yourself. However, 315 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 3: at this point, I don't think it would serve Hoosiers. 316 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: Well, hey, welcome fence. 317 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, to speculate anymore. 318 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, So we handle this perfectly. 319 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 3: Because this is the information. It's out there. But as 320 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 3: you mentioned, a judge could say, no, this is nonsense, 321 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 3: or it could be a real thing. You also have 322 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 3: to keep in mind, if there is a victim, you 323 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 3: want to protect that person and their identity. 324 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 2: So at this point you've done all you can do. 325 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I don't think it's any secret. We're not 326 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 4: like going to hide this. I can't stand the guy like, 327 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 4: and I think the feeling's mutual. But what I don't 328 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 4: want is if somebody's wrongfully accused of something correct and 329 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 4: whatever my personal feelings are, and certainly our job here 330 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 4: with this radio station to let that in any way, 331 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 4: in any way influence what we should be doing. What 332 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 4: the public has the right to know, doesn't have the 333 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 4: right to know, et cetera. So you're telling me we 334 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 4: handled this well, I think so. 335 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, at this point, you can't speculate anymore. You can't. 336 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 2: You shouldn't say anything. 337 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 3: More about it because there's nothing more to say, and 338 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 3: you're just going to get yourself in trouble. 339 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: Very good, and I want to stay I want to 340 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: stay of trouble. Yeah, I want you. I want you 341 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: to stay out of trouble. 342 00:16:58,400 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 2: I want to stay out of trouble as well. 343 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: It's Kevin and most really sweet Kevin. 344 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 2: What did my whole job here keeping? 345 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: Yes? Thank you? 346 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 3: So there it is. You're listening to Kendall and Casey. 347 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 3: It is ninety three w ibc. 348 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: Oh, it's why I started talking it So I was 349 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 1: reading the paper? 350 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 2: Anything good? 351 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: Nobody? 352 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 2: Would you like to share with the class? 353 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: No? 354 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 4: I was just does he may even say reading the 355 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 4: paper anymore? Like is that even a thing? 356 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 2: Maybe on the internet? Article? Yeah, no, not a full paper? 357 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 4: Like what are you doing of reading the paper? If 358 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 4: I'm reading the paper online? Am I reading the paper? 359 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? 360 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 3: You are, well, there was this article, but I don't 361 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 3: think you'd say you're reading the paper article. 362 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 4: Google Data Center critics get facts wrong. We need experts 363 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 4: in the debate. Non elected officials need are needed to 364 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 4: make hard decisions to ensure their communities can continue to 365 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 4: run even those decisions are unpopular. And I just like 366 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 4: I found this. I have not had a chance to 367 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 4: read the whole thing yet, so I just want Like 368 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 4: you asked me what I was doing, That's what I 369 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 4: was doing. I was in the throes of my you know, 370 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 4: my brain things very quick, but I was I didn't 371 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 4: make it all the way through. Like I find that 372 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 4: interesting though, where yes, hard choices are needed, absolutely, And 373 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 4: I'll have to read this whole thing and then you know. 374 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: Do the we'll do a dive on it tomorrow. 375 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 4: But if everyone hates something and everybody thinks it's going 376 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 4: to be negative for them, isn't your first job to 377 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 4: listen to your constituency, Like I mean, if it's if 378 00:18:53,840 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 4: it's Google, the citizens Google, like what's on on a 379 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 4: Franklin township. 380 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: Google doesn't care about land or the people. 381 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 2: No, Google cares about Google, right, Yeah. 382 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 4: And if the people be they right or be they wrong? 383 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 4: Or overwhelmingly against something? And you can't, I mean, think 384 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 4: about all the conversations we've had about data centers. Who 385 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 4: are these politicians that are publicly espousing this is why 386 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 4: it's so great? I mean, you can't. It's hard to 387 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 4: tell people when the data centers that are proposed are 388 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 4: being backed up by a shadow quasi government entity that 389 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 4: you can't get information on. Oh look at how great 390 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 4: this is. Well, how do we know you can't get 391 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 4: any information? 392 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 3: Right? 393 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 2: Just be transparent about it. 394 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 4: And it's sort of the conversation we had earlier with 395 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 4: Kerry Hamilton that you and I've talked about. I understand 396 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 4: it's a large building and that it'll pay some property 397 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 4: tax maybe eventually once all the abatements run out, But 398 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 4: other than that, what's it do? And none of these 399 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 4: politicians are sprinting, whether be hog set or these county 400 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 4: commissioners or you know whoever, to tell us why they're 401 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 4: so great? And if it was so obvious, wouldn't they 402 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 4: be willing to do that? 403 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, sucking up a lot of resources, that's one thing 404 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 3: that we know it will do. And how interesting is it? 405 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 3: Just in such a short amount of time Governor Braun 406 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 3: has said, you know, we've got to do something about 407 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 3: these utility rates, but then in his first session as governor. 408 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 2: Approved the hike in your rate increase. 409 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, And this is why. 410 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 4: People are fed up, is the hypocrisy and the dishonesty. 411 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 1: It's not even the stuff it's that they feel like. 412 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 4: In your personal life, you may do things your husband 413 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,239 Speaker 4: likes or doesn't like, right, you may do things your 414 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 4: daughter likes or doesn't like. I mean, she's an adult now, 415 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 4: so it doesn't really matter. But your job, in any disagreement, 416 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 4: you got to have an honest conversation about what's going on, Right, 417 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 4: like I did A, B and C. 418 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: Here's why I did it. 419 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 4: And then we can you know, operate in a productive 420 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 4: conversation off of that. And I've told you my new 421 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 4: theory on life that I had adopted. Your husband thought 422 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 4: this was brilliant. Is what do I want my life 423 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 4: to be thirty minutes from now? That's my new thing 424 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 4: in every conversation that I have with someone that I 425 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 4: you know, love and care about, is what do I 426 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 4: want my life to look like thirty minutes from now? 427 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 4: Which usually just results in with my wife, you're right, 428 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 4: But my point is what sort of relationship do we 429 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 4: have with our government when we know we're clearly being 430 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 4: lied to and deceived? And how can we have any 431 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 4: relationship with our government that isn't in all cases adversarial 432 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 4: when we keep catching these people in At best blatant 433 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 4: hipocrisy and at worst just outright liing. 434 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very frustrating that they feel like we can't 435 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 3: handle it. 436 00:21:58,320 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 2: It makes it so much worse. 437 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 4: Is it they think we can't handle it? Or is 438 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 4: it they know we're gonna hate what the truth is 439 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 4: so much? Is the truth so bad? Like Braun sign 440 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 4: that bill? This is why you know we have fun 441 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 4: with We call him governor dementia patient because there's only 442 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 4: two logical things going on when we catch these these 443 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 4: him doing things that are in direct or saying things 444 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 4: that are in direct contrast with actions, or doing things 445 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 4: that are in direct contrast with words. Either the guy's 446 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 4: a habitual liar or he suffered some cognitive decline where 447 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 4: he doesn't remember what he says from one day to 448 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 4: the next. And the and the the SMRs. The energy 449 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 4: legislation he signed is the perfect example of State Rep. 450 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 1: Democrats. State Rep. 451 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 4: Kerry Hamilton pointed out with us early in the show, 452 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 4: you sign a thing that everybody was telling you will 453 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 4: raise utility rates. Okay, now you did it for a 454 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 4: technology that's totally unproven and it's going to be years, 455 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 4: if not decades before it. 456 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: Actually pays off. 457 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 4: If ever, but you did it right, so you got 458 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 4: to tell us why you did it. But then you 459 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 4: don't get to come out and go I'm very concerned 460 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 4: about the rising utility rates. When you just did the 461 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 4: thing that's gonna make them go up, and everybody was 462 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 4: telling you it was gonna make them go up, right, 463 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 4: I think. 464 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 3: The trickle of truth is so much worse the little 465 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 3: drip drip drip, Yeah. 466 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 2: I mean, look at look at the Epstein case. 467 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, and how much time and money and effort has 468 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 3: been spent into that. 469 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 2: Just tell us the truth and tell us now as. 470 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 3: A whole, get it out there, yeah, and then you 471 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 3: can figure out. 472 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 2: What you want to do with that information. 473 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: People will. 474 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 4: Think far greater of you if you're honest with them, 475 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 4: even if they disagree with you. Correct as it relates to, 476 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 4: especially to public policy, like here's what I did, here's 477 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 4: why I did it, and here's what we hope the 478 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 4: end result will be out of it. But when you 479 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 4: start manipulating the facts of the case, you start acting 480 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 4: like things that are happening aren't happening. You can't say 481 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 4: I'm very concerned about data centers. And then the first 482 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 4: actions of your new IEDC Board, mister Governor, are to 483 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 4: approve mass incentives for four new data centers. 484 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, because it blows everything else going forward. 485 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: You don't get to do that, and we're going people 486 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: are going to be outraged, not only that you're doing 487 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: the thing, but as they wise up to it, that 488 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: they feel like. 489 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 4: You're lying to them. There is no trust with Mike Brawn, 490 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 4: there is no trust. It's the same thing with Diego Morales. 491 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 4: Everybody knows somebody you don't want us to know paid 492 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 4: for that trip to India. 493 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 1: Diego. Everybody knows. 494 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 4: You're not protecting some well meaning local merchant. Everybody knows 495 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 4: you're not hiding some guy because you're worried he's going 496 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 4: to get protested. You're hiding the identity of who paid 497 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 4: for India because you know the public will be outraged 498 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 4: when they find out who it actually was. Nobody believes 499 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 4: you paid the money back, because if you did, you 500 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 4: had every opportunity. We gave it to you to look 501 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 4: like a hero and make us look so stupid to 502 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 4: show you paid the money back with the proof, with 503 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 4: the receipts. All we asked for was receipts and a 504 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 4: proof the check was deposited. So now everybody looks at 505 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 4: you and they see you as a dirty, rotten, dishonest liar. 506 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 4: You don't reclaim that trust now because you've kept the 507 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 4: lie up and you screaming about fake WIBC or fake 508 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 4: Indie Star or whatever. 509 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 1: People just look at you go you're nuts and you're 510 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: a liar. And so I'm gonna really do a deep 511 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: dive on this. I'm going to do a deep dive 512 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: on this article and see what this person has to 513 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: say that They'm fascinate what they're going to tell me the 514 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: benefits of the data centers are, and why these people 515 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: are doing the right thing they're trying to ram them through. 516 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 3: So Ron DeSantis, governor of Florida, he came out and 517 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 3: he is asking for the complete abolition of property taxes. Yeah, 518 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 3: not just in Florida, but across the country. 519 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 5: From the property tax situation. It's very important given how 520 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 5: that's pinched so many homeowners, particularly our senior citizens, who 521 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 5: have their homes paid off and they bought it thirty 522 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 5: years ago for a certain amount. Now they're being told 523 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 5: it's worth so much more and they have to pony 524 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 5: up more and more money. It's almost like they have 525 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 5: to pay rent to the government just to be able 526 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 5: to enjoy their property, and that's wrong when we need 527 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 5: to do something about it. 528 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 2: So Florida is working on something though. 529 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 3: They broke a record, a tourism record thirty four point 530 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 3: four million visitors in the second quarter of this past year, 531 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 3: and they want to use that tourism money to offset 532 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 3: their property taxes. 533 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the problem is a state like Indiana, the 534 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: only answer to it is to cut back spending. And 535 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: they're not going to do that because in the state 536 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: of Indiana, your lawmakers are petrified of the public education system. 537 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: They are it's the only, the only logical answer, and 538 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: they have basically said to the public education system, you 539 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: can have whatever you want. You want two football fields 540 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: in Brownsburg, great, You want four large fieldhouse, gymnasium things, fine, 541 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: you can have it. 542 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 4: You want to build a road in people's backyards, fine 543 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 4: you can have it. You know, whatever your favorite school 544 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 4: system is, wherever you live, you're gonna see something similar. 545 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: If you're in central Indiana. 546 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 4: They've just given a blank check because they're petrified to teachers, 547 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 4: the angry red shirted teachers. They're petrified that people aren't 548 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 4: gonna inform enough, be informed enough to see through the 549 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 4: bull crap, and they just dare you to do anything 550 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 4: about it. That's I mean, we put a thousand people 551 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 4: in the state House. They're like, no, we got to 552 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 4: go to was it Braves or Houston who had the 553 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,479 Speaker 4: birthday party? One of them had a birthday party? Then 554 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 4: a mariachi band. Yeah, that's nice, we gotta go to 555 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 4: the mariachi band. They don't fear you. I mean, that's 556 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 4: the long and. 557 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: Short of it. So Florida, Yeah, they can do this. 558 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 4: The reality is Indiana, you're gonna have to cut spending, 559 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 4: You're gonna have to hold people accountable, and they're just 560 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 4: they're not willing to do it. They're not willing to 561 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 4: do it, and until they are, it'll never change. And 562 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 4: your they view you as nothing more than shut up 563 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 4: and pay. Hammer is going to join us next to 564 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 4: wrap up our program. 565 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,360 Speaker 3: It's Kendilly Casey on ninety three WIBC. 566 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: I take forty thousand Haitians every day. I haven't been 567 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:24,479 Speaker 1: I got one. Jason Hammer. Hey, now, was it the 568 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: Haitians that were quote eating the dogs, eating the cats? 569 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: Was that the Haitians in Ohio? 570 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 2: It was in Springfield. 571 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: Okay, I just wanted to make sure that that's what 572 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 1: we're talking about here. 573 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 4: You ever deleted a tweet like not because you had 574 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 4: a bad grammar or I tagged the wrong person or whatever. 575 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,719 Speaker 4: You ever deleted a tweet over public pressure? 576 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 2: No, no, I like you. 577 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: I have deleted grammar because the grammar people are worse 578 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: than the oh yeah people. 579 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 4: Well but I can't you catch it right away? You're like, oh, 580 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 4: are you tagged the wrong person or whatever? Oh, sorry 581 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 4: about that. 582 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: Go back to the grammar people for just a second, though, 583 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: Like the grammar people will literally send us a message. 584 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: I listen to your show every day, and I agree 585 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: with you, but you put that apostrophe in the wrong place, 586 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: and now I'm done, like the most over the top ridiculous, 587 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: Like there's no room for grammar on the Internet. That's okay, 588 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: especially when you're trying to squeeze in something in what 589 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: one hundred and forty characters or whatever it is. Yeah, 590 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: there may be some misspellings. There might not be an apostrophe. 591 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: And when I speak, sure, a little beech grove might 592 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: come out from time to time, a little brownsburg might 593 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: come out from time to time. It's not the end 594 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: of the world. 595 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 3: Grammar people, there are some people on social media who 596 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 3: will intentionally misspell to get engagement just for the grammar police. 597 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: My favorite and one of my favorite accounts, and I 598 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: think we've talked about this is a four year letterman. Yes, 599 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: three is a three or four? Is that right? Twitter? 600 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: And he will intentionally say something factually incorrect, attack somebody 601 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: just to watch the corrections come in, just to say 602 00:29:59,480 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: three year. 603 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 604 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,959 Speaker 4: And and these people they engage in real fights with 605 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 4: this guy who is clearly just try like he's just 606 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 4: making absurd stuff up, and they're fighting back with him 607 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 4: about his lack of factual knowledge. 608 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: Like when Kamala Harris was appointed as the nominee for 609 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: the Democrats. I think my favorite one was I believe 610 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: it's against the Constitution for a woman to run for 611 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: president And like all the comments coming in like elected officials, 612 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,479 Speaker 1: I think, like Matt Gates got involved in my guys, 613 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: stop it. It's a troll account. What are you doing? 614 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: Uh you? 615 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 4: And I did a fine job yesterday in the National 616 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 4: Football League when it came to throw in a few 617 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 4: shekels on various teams and plays. 618 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: Hey, I needed that because my college day was crap, 619 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: so I needed the NFL day and both of us 620 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: rocked a heater yesterday. It started on Thursday night where 621 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: I had the Cowboys plus eight, thank you, thank you. 622 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: And then I had the Bills plus one and a half. 623 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: And how about that comeback? Yeah, that was great. Rob you, 624 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: I believe went one to oher in your plays and 625 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: have another one tonight. 626 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 4: I did, and I hit the balling on a budget 627 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 4: segment where we take you know away you can make 628 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 4: a bunch of money on a cheap bet, and my 629 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 4: big balling on a budget parlay hit and so double 630 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 4: the money. That's right, and so and then I got 631 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 4: my Sunday night football bet, which means the. 632 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: Bears are going down tonight. Hemmer, God's uncle let me 633 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: have it all. He's gonna say, ah, forty to nothing, 634 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: Bears going down to the Vikings. You hit the balling. 635 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 3: Uh. 636 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: I was rolling on the prop shop, only missed one 637 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: prop yesterday and we had a good day yesterday. So 638 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: if you're not following our sports betting program, the Degenerates 639 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: next Door anywhere you get your podcasts, subscribe comes right 640 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: to your inbox or whatever, or just follow the Twitter 641 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: account at gambling stuff. Yeah, I had to. 642 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 4: So I'm mister your mister Thursday night, I'm mister Monday night. 643 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 4: And uh, I mean I had to bet the Bear, 644 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 4: and a lot of times I will bet against the 645 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 4: Bears just because that way I can win the bet. 646 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: Either way, I feel like you've accomplished something at the 647 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: end of the night. Either way, either your won money 648 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: or your team won. Here's the problem. 649 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 4: Though it's week one, the game is on ESPN, which 650 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 4: means I gotta walk to my dad's house sure to 651 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 4: watch the game. 652 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: Very cheap. Man. 653 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 4: He's not going to allow me to cheer against the 654 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 4: Bears week now. Maybe by like week ten, when the 655 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 4: season's over, he won't care you're playing for draft picks, 656 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 4: but week but week one not gonna have it. So 657 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 4: I had to go with the Bears. And I just 658 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 4: know it's just not it's not gonna go well. And 659 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 4: so but I just I if I wanted to watch 660 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 4: the game, he was not going to tolerate me cheering 661 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 4: against the Bears week one. 662 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: So you and I are both on the Bears tonight. 663 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: At the time of our show, it was one and 664 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: a half. I believe I think it might be up 665 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: to two now. Geez, so Bears are catching the points. 666 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: I'll take the Bears. Little note heading into tonight. If 667 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: you're betting the total, the over and the under unders, 668 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: I believe we're twelve and three yesterday, not on Sunday 669 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: Night football. Sunday Night football was a shootout the Steelers 670 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: and Jets. That was a shootout, but most of the 671 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: other games cash that under, and man, that was a 672 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: big number, big trend the unders early on. Are the 673 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: Colts good or does Miami stink? I think Miami stinks 674 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: first of all. Colts may be better, may be better, 675 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: but I think Miami is pretty bad too, like to 676 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: what looked awful. Oh, I totally forgot to tell you 677 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: guys this. This is perfect for you to be here. 678 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: You'll appreciate this. Indie reporter and I went went downtown 679 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: last night. Lit'll get together a couple of cackling hens, 680 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: sharing secrets and stories. And we were walking back at 681 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: the halftime of the of the Sunday FOOTBA games. All right, 682 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: you got go home. 683 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 4: We're walking back and there's a guy in a Colts 684 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 4: jersey and he is like hanging on for dear life 685 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 4: onto the railing because he is going down like he is, 686 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 4: he has sped over the entire day, and his poor 687 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 4: I guess it was his wife. She was just mortified 688 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 4: to be seen with this guy in public? 689 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 1: Was it Nigel? Everything you're telling me right now sounds 690 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:10,800 Speaker 1: like it could be Nigel. 691 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 2: Nigel. 692 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 1: And he was, I mean, he was like, you know 693 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 1: the rope or the guy's pulling on the right, he was, 694 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: he was hanging, he was, he was going down even 695 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: though he was hanging on to the ledge. I thought, 696 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: I don't know how they're gonna get that guy up. 697 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: And I wanted to stand and watch, but then I 698 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: was like, man, I gotta get home. I don't have 699 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: time to see this. This thing not that good. But 700 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: that that guy had enjoyed the entire day, I'm guessing. 701 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: So I went to the game yesterday. 702 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:31,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got some son on your face. 703 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, the roof was open and I left everybody tagging 704 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: with the roof was over. But no, that son was 705 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: beating right in my face yesterday. And my favorite thing, 706 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: there was a dude in our rowe and he came down. 707 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: He had four beers, like I don't even think you're 708 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 1: supposed to be able to buy four year beers. I 709 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: don't know, but he had two in the hand, you know, 710 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: each hand, eighty three bucks and I kind of pointed 711 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: out to him, hey, buddy, all right, and he looked 712 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 1: at me. True story. It's what ers would have wanted. 713 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 2: That's how you know. 714 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: Maybe we are back. Football season is back? 715 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 3: What are you? 716 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 4: What are you doing today on the award winning Hammer 717 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:09,720 Speaker 4: in Nigel program? What are we talking about? 718 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 3: So? 719 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: Michael Paul Hart's gonna join us in studio. I think 720 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: this is the first big public interview since the coup 721 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: that kicked him out. We're gonna find out what's going 722 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: on with this curfew crap, the data center stuff. That 723 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: fight's not over. Gun guy Guy Ralford will be here 724 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,479 Speaker 1: and Kevin Bowen joins us as well. 725 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 2: It's gonna be a big show. 726 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 3: Thank you Hammer, and thank you Rob Hey, Kevin, thank 727 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,720 Speaker 3: you as well, but most importantly, thank you for listening today. 728 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 2: That's gonna do it for us. 729 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 3: This is being Kendall and Casey on ninety three w IVC.