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Speaker 3: And Grand Rising family, and thanks for starting your week

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Speaker 3: with us again. Later, the President General of the Universital

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Speaker 3: of African People's Organization will take over our classroom. Brother

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Speaker 3: Zaki Brewery will provide us with an analysis of the

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Speaker 3: conflict in Iran, also the situation in Cuba, and also

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Speaker 3: we're gonna speak with Gardy brother saying go by he

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Speaker 3: save a black cemetery be Fest of Maryland. But first

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Speaker 3: let's get Vin to reopen our classroom doors. This Monday morning,

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Speaker 3: Grand Rising, Kevin.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Grand Rising, indeed, come Nelson, Welcome to Holy Week.

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Speaker 1: It's you know, the day after poem Sunday. So hope

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Speaker 1: all is well. It's the thirtieth of March.

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Speaker 3: How are you feeling, hey, man, I'm still learning. I

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Speaker 3: feel blessed. I'm still here, yes, sir, Yeah, I'm telling you,

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Speaker 3: I'm happy that so many things happened to the folks. Man,

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Speaker 3: I've got to be grateful. God is good. I'm still here.

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Speaker 1: All the time, and these are some interesting times. That

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Speaker 2: The old song that was taken from a poem, I believe.

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Speaker 1: And so it not to mention the stuff that's going

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Speaker 1: seeing new changes. President Trump allows sanctioned Russian oil tanker

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Speaker 2: Have to survive. He said, that sounds almost a little different.

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Speaker 3: Sure that sounds a little different, doesn't sound like him,

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Speaker 3: does it? But with oil going into Cuba. Also, China

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Speaker 1: Military experts caution that even fifty thousand troops, many of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's something. Over the weekend the British Trump Prime

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Speaker 3: Uh and you know what, Kevin, that's caused all kinds

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Speaker 1: And so TSA workers could start seeing their paychecks as

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Speaker 3: Wow, yeah, man, and baby servict. You know, just think

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Speaker 2: Person today is Stacey Abrams.

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Speaker 1: Stacey Yvonne Abrams born December ninth, nineteen seventy three is

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Speaker 1: an American politician, lawyer, phony rights activist, and author who

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Speaker 1: served in the Georgia House of Representatives from two thousand

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Speaker 2: And she has some interesting things to say about that

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Speaker 1: A member of the Democratic Party, Abrams founded Fair Fight Action,

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Speaker 1: And she has a new book out called Coded Justice,

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Speaker 2: Of that nature, and blame you. Blame the people for that.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Eliminate colleges and philanthropists and law firms that

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Speaker 1: Uh huh so uh, yes, he's quite quite a genius,

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Speaker 3: All right, Thanks Kevin, and thank you for unlocking the

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Speaker 3: classroom doors. Twelve after the top out, Let's go, I

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Speaker 5: I'm very excited about some of the good news going

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Speaker 5: there's a lot that we have to share. I know

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Speaker 5: If Marsha's on, I'd like to bring her on first.

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Speaker 3: welcome back to the program, Good morning.

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Speaker 6: How are you? And also mys is on too, Reverend

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Speaker 6: to Bayo, alright.

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Speaker 3: Revenue.

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Speaker 5: Too, if you want Marshall Harvey, y'all want to do

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Speaker 5: it because it's very important that people know what's going

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Speaker 3: All right, Sister Marsha, is one thing I ask you

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Speaker 3: So if you can give us a you know, just

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the thumbnail story is that there's an

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Speaker 6: They died on River Road. And when they died on

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Speaker 7: Of the cemetery.

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Speaker 6: They built all kinds of structures on top of the

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Speaker 6: is divided into three unequal parts. There's a part that

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Speaker 6: It's about eight feet eight floors tall. It covers almost

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Speaker 6: And then the two other parcels. One is Parcel one.

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Speaker 3: Oh that thought right there, sister Marshall. We got to

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Speaker 3: you're just waking up. It's eighteen minutes after the top

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Speaker 3: of day. Our sister Marsha at a Baale along with

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Speaker 3: Rising family, Happy Monday to you. Thanks for waking up

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Speaker 3: I guess the sister Marsha at a bale, the husband reverend,

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Speaker 3: So you're going to add the baale. They're leading the

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Speaker 3: I'll let you finish continue your thought.

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Speaker 9: Oh sure.

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Speaker 6: I just wanted to also mention with the first what

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Speaker 6: a part of the humanization of this community, they took

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Speaker 6: This is where the Warren family had bought land. It's

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Speaker 7: But as the Maryland, basically.

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Speaker 6: They've used their bodies to make more money because after all,

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Speaker 3: All right, and you're rolling all this. Do you see

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Speaker 3: a silver lining in all of this, because as Marsha mentioned,

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Speaker 10: Well, yeah, yeah, you can marry them, mister Nelson, Yeah,

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Speaker 10: I do see see the hunt windstop God. You know

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Speaker 10: in our strength. We believe that, you know, truth is

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Speaker 10: Uh, you know this this is the time, you know,

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Speaker 10: But you know it's time in office enough, So.

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Speaker 3: Well, why am me jouping here? Red because you're a pastor.

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Speaker 3: How do you reconcile what they did to our ancestors?

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Speaker 3: How do you know when people come to you and say,

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Speaker 3: If there's a God, why would he let this happen

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Speaker 10: It's an old question that you know, being asked a

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Speaker 12: I do agree with you that.

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Speaker 10: Even nice sometimes will ask me saying, you know, why

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Speaker 3: Got you twenty eight a half the time. There, that's

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Speaker 3: just the Marsha. So I know you've taken some legal

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Speaker 3: There anything moving in the courts in your favor so far?

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 6: I mean what my husband said is true. If you

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but hold on before we move up. Hold

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Speaker 6: You know, as long as it takes, you know. It

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Speaker 6: was interesting. I was reading something about Harriet Tubman the

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Speaker 6: as a political scientist or slashed his story and now

435
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Speaker 6: I guess and I almost feel like speaking to their spirits.

436
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Speaker 6: You know, you're going to be free in two the

437
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Speaker 6: years if you can just But but they didn't know that.

438
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 6: All they knew is that they had to keep fighting.

439
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 6: And that was what I think has driven this movement

440
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 6: is that, you know, we you know, we're a movement,

441
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 6: We're a grassroots movement. We don't have support by the

442
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 6: politicians in Montgomery County, you know, Mark Ariz, Jamie Rask,

443
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 6: and none of these people who you know, go on

444
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 6: the speaking circuit and talk of you know, they're quoting

445
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 6: Frederick Douglas and Harriet Tubman and and at the same time,

446
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 6: they have turned their backs on a desecration that's occurring

447
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 6: in their district. And and you know, and they expect

448
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 6: black people to support them, even though they have, you know,

449
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 6: basically given black people the back of their hands in

450
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 6: terms of any respect whatsoever for seeing our humanity. But

451
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 6: you know, we believe from the very beginning that this

452
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,360
Speaker 6: was going to be a protracted struggle. Why because we're

453
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 6: fighting for land, and anytime you fight for land, which

454
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 6: is a fight for power, you have to understand that

455
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 6: this is going to be a major struggle because one

456
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Speaker 6: of the tenants of white supremacy is that it is

457
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Speaker 6: about removing any tenants of power from black people. And

458
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 6: so we knew from the very beginning, once we begin

459
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 6: to see all the various actors come into play, that

460
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Speaker 6: if we're going to fight for power, this is not

461
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Speaker 6: going to be a walk in. This is not going

462
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Speaker 6: to be a gentle walk. This was going to be

463
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Speaker 6: a battle, and so we prepared for that.

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Speaker 7: And now we're beginning to see I think.

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Speaker 6: Some of the silver lining in this whole process. In fact,

466
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Speaker 6: our lawyer will be on later today to talk about

467
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Speaker 6: some of the silver lining that we're beginning to see.

468
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Speaker 6: But you know, but now we've got more information than

469
00:27:55,760 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 6: ever that the developer, we believe knew that these human

470
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 6: remains that were being removed from the cemetery, even though

471
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Speaker 6: they were even the politicians were telling the public in

472
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Speaker 6: front of our faces.

473
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Speaker 7: These are animal.

474
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Speaker 6: Bones, they're not human bones. Mark Alrich has called me

475
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 6: a liar, and so many public for say, oh, she's

476
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 6: lying to you, these were not human beings. Well, now

477
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 6: I think we're going to be able to go to

478
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Speaker 6: court and we're going to be able to show that

479
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,959
Speaker 6: in fact, there was a very there was a there

480
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 6: was very clear evidence that these bones were possibly human.

481
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Speaker 6: And instead of developers stopping the excavation, they accelerated the

482
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Speaker 6: excavation because they believe, and it may be true, that

483
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Speaker 6: if you build it, no court will ask you to

484
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Speaker 6: tear it down. And so their strategy, we believe, was

485
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Speaker 6: to build this building so that they could say, your honor,

486
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 6: I'm so sorry. Yeah, well there may have been human remains,

487
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 6: but the building is already in place. You wouldn't ask

488
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 6: us to tear it down, would you. So there's been

489
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 6: a lot of cover up, and I think the politicians

490
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 6: in Montgomery County have played a major role in giving

491
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 6: these you know, industrial forces, the corporate voices in this

492
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 6: whole process cover so that they could build this thing.

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Speaker 3: Before we could get the court twenty seven away from

494
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 3: the top. They have family And for the rest of

495
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 3: folks who don't live in the DMV are the cemetery

496
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 3: is located in Bethesda, Maryland. It's one of the more

497
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 3: wealthiest enclaves, if you will, in the entire country. So

498
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 3: you've got to put that in perspective. The thing is,

499
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Speaker 3: if this was a pet cemetery, this wouldn't have gotten

500
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Speaker 3: that far. It was the Jewish Asian cemetery, they wouldn't

501
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 3: have done that. It's just like it's told disrespect for

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Speaker 3: us as black people. What can we do to make

503
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 3: them shortfall? How can we convince them that we're not

504
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 3: going to be disrespected? And I think it was you

505
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 3: or your wife mentioned that some of the people who

506
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 3: have attended your church, maybe of your church are actually

507
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 3: I have relatives of are buried in that cemetery. Is

508
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 3: that true?

509
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Speaker 10: That's absolutely true, and we have we have we have

510
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 10: data to back that top. I think, you know all

511
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 10: it is important in this uh, you know, as I said,

512
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Speaker 10: it's not you know, God books in his own time.

513
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 10: And I believe that the God that we have is

514
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 10: a righteous and just God. And you know, our experience

515
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 10: in this land, you know, testifies to that that people

516
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 10: that are brought here, you know, strip of their name

517
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 10: and culture. And look at what God has done, you know,

518
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 10: through us in this land, and He's not through associate.

519
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 10: And so I I do believe, you know, we are

520
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 10: making you know, significant progress.

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Speaker 13: You know.

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Speaker 10: One of the cases that we haven't caught against the

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Speaker 10: House in Opportunity's Commission of Montgomery County. Uh, even though

524
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 10: it's been established and they know, the commissioners and the executive,

525
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 10: they know there's no argument that this land you know,

526
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 10: was used you know for a burial of our people,

527
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 10: the mostly cemetery. But yet they continue to fight us

528
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 10: and clot In fact, they went to court you know,

529
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Speaker 10: with the attempt to have the Joye dismiss the case

530
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 10: so that they can continue to perpetrate the evil, you know,

531
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 10: pure evil that they have done on this piece of land.

532
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Speaker 5: But you know, God helped us.

533
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 4: We prevailed.

534
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 10: The judge slapped their you know, slapped down the attempt

535
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 10: you know, you know, you know, summary judgment.

536
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 4: So we will be going to court, you know, we

537
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 4: will go before a jury.

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00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 14: Uh.

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00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 10: The facts are straightforward, and so we will be asking

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Speaker 10: you know, for in equitable relief, uh, you know, for

541
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Speaker 10: for what they've done there on the other case, And

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00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 10: let me.

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00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 3: Hold you for a second there and what does that mean?

544
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 3: What are you asking for them to tear down the

545
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 3: buildings and rebury the remains of our ancestors? Is that

546
00:31:58,720 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 3: what you're asking for?

547
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 10: We aren't asking for them to tear down the building.

548
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 10: You know, there's a hige passer of landing awhare they're

549
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 10: now you know, packing our street, parking parking lot. You know,

550
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 10: we will be asking them to one restore the cemetery

551
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 10: back to what it used to be. We'll be asking

552
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 10: them for you know, composition, because they've been charging people, uh,

553
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 10: you know, rent to pack on this piece of land

554
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 10: for years, so we want that money recover back to us.

555
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 10: Our goal eventually is to build a memorial, uh you know,

556
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 10: to let people know what happened there and you know,

557
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 10: for us to maintain never again and also to build

558
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 10: a museum to tell the story of what happened on

559
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 10: River Road in this wealthy bethesda, so that all the

560
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 10: world we know what the politicians, the elected officials and

561
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 10: mangam Cant has been trying to prevent and cover up.

562
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 10: So so that's that's where we are, that's why we're

563
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 10: aiming for and it's you know, one day at the time. Uh,

564
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 10: you know sometimes you know, you fight these Bache's a

565
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 10: great modern de prophet, you know. Matusa King then lived

566
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 10: to see all the programs that we made. But he

567
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 10: saw the promised Land, and we are we're gonna get

568
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 10: to the promised Land.

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Speaker 3: I certainly hope. So Reverend hold that thought right there.

570
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 3: And also a sister Marsha we got to step aside.

571
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 3: We gotta check the news, traffic, and we're out different cities. Also, Clifford,

572
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 3: Connecticut has a question for you, guys eight hundred and

573
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 3: four or five zero seventy eight seventy six, you want

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00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 3: to know more about this black cemetery, Bethesta, Maryland, reach

575
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 3: out to us and we'll take your phone calls after

576
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 3: we check the news.

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Speaker 2: That's next and.

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Speaker 3: Grand Rising family, thanks for waking up with us on

579
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 3: this Monday morning, sixteen minutes away from the top day out.

580
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 3: I guess the Reverend Sagan the bail and also his

581
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 3: wife and sister Marsha at a bail, doctor Marsha at

582
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 3: a bayos. You say they're leading the fight to save

583
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 3: a black cemetery in Bethesta, Maryland. Before we go back

584
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Speaker 3: to them, though, let me just remind you. Coming up

585
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 3: later this morning, we're gonna speak with the President General

586
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,479
Speaker 3: of the Universal of Afecan People's Organization. That'd be one

587
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 3: Zaki Brewery. But before we talk to Zaki, we're gonna

588
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 3: introduce you to one of our colleagues here at Urban one,

589
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 3: connect Newman. She's got a project she's working on. She

590
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 3: needs our help, so we're gonna help her out and leave.

591
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 3: This week. You're gonna hear from the Master Teacher himself,

592
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 3: Brother ashra Quasi. Also doctor Saby's son Abdoua will join us,

593
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 3: and pen Afgnist doctor David Horne will also be here.

594
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 3: So if you are in Baltimore, make chief for that

595
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 3: radio is locked in tight on ten ten w LB,

596
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 3: or if you're in the DMV the Washington Metropolitan here,

597
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,479
Speaker 3: we're on fourteen fifty w O L all right, Sister

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00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 3: Marsha and a doctor Adebayo, Reverend at of Bayo. Before

599
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 3: we elect the total, the Cliff in Connecticut has a

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Speaker 3: question for you guys. He's online four grand Rising Cliff

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Speaker 3: you're question for the aberos.

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Speaker 15: And grand resin of the column to your guests. If

603
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Speaker 15: I get just ask a personal question, then would I

604
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Speaker 15: hopefully stud offensive what faith or religion do your practice?

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Speaker 11: Oh?

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00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 6: Come on, men, we're both factors.

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Speaker 16: I'm riah, so you'll be You'll be Christian Christianity, Yes, yes, okay,

608
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 16: I'm with call one hundred percent.

609
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 15: This horrific crime has been in existing. You've been looking

610
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,399
Speaker 15: for justice for over a long period of time, over

611
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 15: ten years, and God and my belief and is correct

612
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 15: me for wrong. God's gonna require a little bit more

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00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 15: than just prayer. So what I'm saying is that we

614
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 15: as African Americans, we need black politicians, black Republicans, black democrats,

615
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 15: all these churches to be in unison in supporting you.

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00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 15: This is horrific.

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00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 11: It's so simple. Prayer ain't gonna do it.

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00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 15: We need more drastic because this listening to this whole

619
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 15: thing from the beginning, Sir, is so disgusting and hurtful.

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00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,439
Speaker 15: I was angry, and when I'm saying to that, I'm

621
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 15: not gonna sit there and pray and wait for God

622
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 15: to come and make a difference. When we as black

623
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 15: people can take action and that's what we need to do.

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00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 15: We are now facing sharpened and the UN had just

625
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,439
Speaker 15: asked for reparations for black people. I guess there's three

626
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 15: countries that denied it. Guess who it was, Argentina, Israel,

627
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 15: and America. So to sit here and awake and think

628
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 15: that America is going through this, it's going to require,

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Speaker 15: I want to bit more drastic measures to make this

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Speaker 15: change and to deal with this. If I'm making any sense, yeah,

631
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 15: to respond, yeah, no, I think we hear you.

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Speaker 6: And and if both my husband and I both believe

633
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 6: that you know, God moves through human beings, it's not

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00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 6: that we were sitting back. I think if you've been

635
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 6: following this story for a while, and that we thank

636
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 6: Carl Nelson for covering this story for such a long time.

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00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 6: We know my husband and I are both activists, and

638
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 6: and so we are in the courts, we are in

639
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 6: the streets, we are writing, we are doing everything. We're

640
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 6: in policy. We have two bills in the Maryland state Legislature.

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00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 6: We've been trying to get Congressman Jamie Raskin to introduce

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00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 6: a bill at a federal level. I mean so almost

643
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 6: in every aspect of sort of civilian life, our civic life,

644
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 6: we are involved in trying to get people to move.

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Speaker 6: You know, one of the problems that I think we have,

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Speaker 6: and that is that under capitalist America, people are so

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00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 6: there's just a lot of trauma and there's a lot

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Speaker 6: of fear, which you know, I don't think is necessarily

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Speaker 6: unfounded in terms of getting moving into the street and

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00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 6: fighting these battles. But what we have found in the

651
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 6: last ten years is that our community has been very

652
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 6: active on this issue. We're in the street almost until

653
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 6: we encountered really horrible whether the last couple of months.

654
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 6: We're in the street every single Wednesday at four o'clock

655
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 6: in the center of the cemetery with our signs and

656
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 6: our banners, educating the community about what's going on. We're

657
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 6: on the Crowd Nelson Show, We're on any radio opera.

658
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 6: We very rarely passed up an opportunity to talk on

659
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 6: radio or television about this issue. We're in the court system.

660
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 6: We've won a battle in front of the Maryland Supreme

661
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 6: Court in terms of declaring that this is a burial ground.

662
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 6: We have two lawsuits that are currently being decided in

663
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 6: the Circuit Court right now. I mean we are almost

664
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 6: in every single venue you can imagine fighting this battle.

665
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 6: We don't ex you know, we have been very disappointed,

666
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 6: but not unexpectedly with politicians in Montgomery County, but we

667
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 6: still put pressure on them. We go to their rallies,

668
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 6: we hold up our signs, we ask them questions, we

669
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 6: educate the community they had brought to these rallies about

670
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 6: Moses Cemetery. We have found out, for example, that many

671
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 6: of the black politicians in this area are taking money

672
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 6: from the same developer. That that's so crazy the graves

673
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 6: at Moses Cemetery. So we are engaged in research, we

674
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 6: are engaged in policy, we are engaged in activism, and

675
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 6: we are also spiritually active as well, because we understand

676
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 6: that this is a spiritual warfare that we're fighting. And

677
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 6: whenever you're fighting evil, you know, you have to be

678
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 6: involved in a spiritual battle as well. So we're involved

679
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 6: in every single aspect of this struggle. And we thank

680
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 6: you for your question and we asked you to please

681
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 6: continue to support us.

682
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 3: Ten away from the topic, you know, System Marsha, I've

683
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 3: had this discussion with you personally about this with a

684
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 3: fight what Cliffs were referring to. This is what Professor

685
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 3: smalto is what happened in Lower Manhattan. They did the

686
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 3: same thing on a black cemetery and Brothers in New

687
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 3: York City. They went there, laid in front of those

688
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 3: bulldozers and tractors and lay and dared them to come

689
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 3: and you know, dig up. Their asks is similar us.

690
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 3: The thing is happening in Tampa, where we didn't go

691
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 3: that far. As soon as the city officials in Tampa

692
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,439
Speaker 3: found out they were it was a black graves site,

693
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 3: they reversed and they went somewhere else to do their project.

694
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 3: I'm not seeing that kind of energy. And I've talked

695
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 3: to you about this before. I know in l A,

696
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 3: I'm knowing Chicago or Detroit, but there doesn't seem that

697
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 3: kind of energy in the d m v ere for

698
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 3: for doing for doing that. I don't know why it is,

699
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 3: but I don't see that energy. I'm sort of dismayed

700
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 3: that it's not there, you know, because what Cliff is

701
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 3: and though what Cliff where Cliff is coming from, is

702
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 3: that we need to be more forceful. You know, we're not.

703
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 3: We're not seeing that. You've you've been out there by yourself,

704
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 3: and you should never be out there by yourself as

705
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 3: a sister. You know, the brothers that even though the

706
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 3: FOI should be with you or somebody. You know, we've

707
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 3: got enough brothers out there who got got you know,

708
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 3: got got timed on their hands. They could come out

709
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 3: and support what you're doing. I'm not seeing that support.

710
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,240
Speaker 3: And I think that's what Cliff is alluding to your thoughts.

711
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 6: You know, I think my husband wants to respond to

712
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 6: you know, weep Ben disappointed and we you know, and

713
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 6: we and we are reaching out to the black community

714
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 6: to please step forward and to help us because we

715
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 6: need that help. I mean, people are often surprised when

716
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 6: they come to our rallies and like fifty percenter, you know,

717
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 6: a white people, and they're surprise that, you know, we're

718
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 6: getting in many ways more white support than we are

719
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 6: Black support. And I think, you know, and it's unfortunate

720
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 6: because this is really a battle for the black community.

721
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 6: These are our ancestors that they're digging up. But I

722
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 6: think one of the one of the ways that they've

723
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 6: gotten away with this is that once they pushed the

724
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 6: black community off of this land, which is now some

725
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 6: of the most expensive real estate in the world. Once

726
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 6: they pushed the Black community off of this land, and

727
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 6: basically Europeans took over this land. Black people were scattered.

728
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 6: In fact, there was actually a plan, a written land

729
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 6: called Scattered the Negroes that was developed between Mitruermery County

730
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 6: officials in the nineteen fifties and the KKKY, and they

731
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 6: actually outlined how they were going to scatter the Negroes

732
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 6: from this area of River Road. And so people, you know,

733
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,240
Speaker 6: like a lot of your members who come to our meetings,

734
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 6: they're coming in from Baltimore, They're coming in from all

735
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 6: over North Carolina. They're coming in from very long from

736
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 6: fire away places. We don't have a you know, sort

737
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 6: of a residential community around us anymore. It's all been gentrified,

738
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 6: so people have to have to travel long distances, and

739
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 6: I think that that's impacted, you know, the level of

740
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 6: participation by black people. But nevertheless, Carl, people come to

741
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 6: our rallies and they'll say, I heard you on the

742
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 6: Carl Nelson Show, and I decided to come to this rally,

743
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 6: and so we're very grateful for that. I just want

744
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 6: people to know that we're going to be in court

745
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 6: this month next month in April, and we'll also be

746
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 6: in court again in May, fighting for this area that

747
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 6: was turned into like an area where they were dumping

748
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 6: the bodies of children who they were forcing to breed.

749
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 9: Children.

750
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 6: I should just say sixty to seventy percent of all

751
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 6: these little girls bled out and childbirth and so these

752
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 6: little for them rate became a death sentence. And so

753
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 6: we'll be in court in May, in April and Shagun.

754
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 6: I'm not sure if you have the dates for those

755
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 6: court appearances, but we'll be in for April and May.

756
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 10: Yeah, we have the DA and mail fause you know,

757
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 10: that would be the hearings on so many emotions that

758
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 10: have been filed on the Dayton April. I think it's

759
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 10: supposed to be April. Nice that you know, fully and

760
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 10: our attorney clans on the air, you'll be able to

761
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 10: you know, you know, confound that. I think in response

762
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 10: to the question from back Cliff, I would say that, yes,

763
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 10: we have been disappointed, but that has not been a

764
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 10: cost to slow us down.

765
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 4: You know.

766
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 10: One of the things is that, you know, black people

767
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 10: are so preoccupied with so many different issues. You know,

768
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 10: we have the issues of so many young black men

769
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 10: that have been thrown into prison. Some folks are fighting

770
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 10: against that. You know, some people are fighting just for

771
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 10: survival actually in this climate. So in a way we

772
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 10: are disappointed, but we know that, you know, many people

773
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 10: are with us. This is not just a problem here

774
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 10: in Bethelda. It's a problem across the nation. In a way,

775
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 10: we are learning at the same thing that is happening

776
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 10: to us and Bethesda is happening to so many you know,

777
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 10: black communities across you know, this nation. So well, you know,

778
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 10: we can say we we don't seeing more people supporting us,

779
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 10: and give up, but that's not attacked. You know, we

780
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 10: keep on pushing, We keep on mobilizing, and you know,

781
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 10: as as a great you know, clamet to racer, we

782
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 10: keep on agitating and we believe that more more people

783
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 10: will join us and at the end, you know, we're

784
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 10: matched together in victory. So we we we we we

785
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 10: we We're praying with editating, we're demonstrating, we're rallying and

786
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 10: doing everything that we can do, going to high school,

787
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 10: educating the nextguration.

788
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 13: So it is building up.

789
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 10: And you know, but my apparently we believe that we

790
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 10: have been led you know, by by righteous you know,

791
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 10: Commander in chief, you know, in this in this war

792
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:54,479
Speaker 10: you know what, to regain our dignity, not just better

793
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 10: the across across across the globe.

794
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 15: Right and bring the.

795
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 6: UN resolution that was just passed at the United Nations

796
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 6: against slavery and and and and we're and we're very

797
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 6: you know, we we've supported that UN resolution because we

798
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 6: think fundamentally the reason why this desecration is occurring across

799
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 6: the country is because we are still not considered human.

800
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 6: You know, you talked about the other ethnic groups that

801
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 6: they wouldn't dare desecrate their grapes, and it's because.

802
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,959
Speaker 7: If they are considered human beings.

803
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 6: I mean even dogs. I mean there was an article

804
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 6: that was written about our struggle in the in the

805
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 6: Guardian and and and the title of the article was

806
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 6: dogs would not be treated the way human beings are

807
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 6: being treated in Posessta. And that's true. I mean, we

808
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 6: have pet cemeteries at half at the Aspen Hill Pet Cemetery,

809
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 6: and you go there and it looks like you know,

810
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 6: Arlington National Cemetery. I mean it's absolutely you know, you know,

811
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 6: serene and beautiful. But you come to Bethesda, you know, civilized,

812
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 6: progressive Bethesda, and what you're going to see is that

813
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 6: now an eight story self storage unit on top of

814
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:20,240
Speaker 6: an area where they took out hundreds of bones cross

815
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 6: you know, state lines into Virginia and packed our ancestors

816
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:30,240
Speaker 6: in a in a warehouse for over five years.

817
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 3: I mean, no hold up, all right there, system, Marsha,

818
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 3: we got to step aside and get caught up with

819
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 3: a traffic and weather or not different cities. It's two

820
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 3: minutes away from the top. They have family just checking

821
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 3: in at that system. Marsha at the Bayo, a husband

822
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 3: the sea on out of the Bayo's with Usten and

823
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 3: they're leading the fight to save a black Samsara in Bethesda, Maryland,

824
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 3: one of the more wealthiest areas in the country. You

825
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 3: want to get in on this conversation, reach out to

826
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 3: us at eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy

827
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 3: six and we take a phone calls. After we check

828
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 3: the traffic and weather. It's next and grand Rising family,

829
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 3: thanks for estani a week with us last week in March.

830
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 3: It's too after the top they out, I guess there

831
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 3: is sister Marsha Ada Bayo also reverend Sign the Bao,

832
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 3: husband and wife and the leading in a fight to

833
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 3: save a black cemetery. In Bethesta, Maryland. You've heard it before,

834
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 3: this story and they've been doing it for ten years,

835
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,240
Speaker 3: mostly cemetery, Uh, the system of Maasha. You went recently

836
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 3: traveled to Ghane. Can you connect some Gods doors with

837
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 3: what you found out in Ghana and what's going on

838
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 3: in this fight to save the cemetery.

839
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, thank you for that.

840
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 6: Now, I've been to Gane, I guess twice in the

841
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 6: last six months now, and I'm working very closely with

842
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 6: the Diaspora African Forum, which is a diplomatic arm with

843
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 6: the African Union for the diaspora of it. And the

844
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 6: diaspora is sort of divided into two uneven pirates. Is

845
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 6: the diaspora like me and you who were you know,

846
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 6: our families were kidnapped and tortured and brought to the

847
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 6: United States, to the Caribbean and South America or Europe.

848
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 7: And then there's the.

849
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 6: Continental diaspora of people who face colonialism and apartheid and

850
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 6: other forms of violence by Europeans on the African continent.

851
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 6: And so we're working very closely now with the Diaspora

852
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 6: African Forum, and we've been working on like we've been

853
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 6: working on the issue of once we are victorious. What

854
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 6: are some of the common projects that we can engage

855
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 6: in which will strengthen both of us, both the diaspora

856
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 6: in Africa as well as the diaspora in this country.

857
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 6: And one of the major issues we've been discussing is

858
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 6: we're once we let me just let people know that

859
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 6: the developer has refused to return the remains that they

860
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 6: looted from the from the cemetery. And I started to

861
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 6: say that they actually they actually you know, excavated the

862
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 6: area and you know, of course ancestors were there, and

863
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 6: there were hundreds of remains that they found, and instead

864
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 6: of turning those remains over to the families, to the community,

865
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 6: they actually boxed them up and took them across state

866
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 6: lines into Virginia and had been holding them in a

867
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 6: warehouse in Gainesville, Virginia. They found out about this by accident,

868
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 6: not because they had the humanity to tell us where

869
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 6: they had taken our loved ones. And so we've been

870
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,280
Speaker 6: discussing where would they go. And but we've been discussing,

871
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 6: you know, returning our ancestors back to Africa, and so

872
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 6: there is there's a real possibility that we may be

873
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 6: able to return our ancestors back home where they were

874
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 6: loved and cared for, and as opposed to rein turning

875
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 6: them in a place that represented such cruelty and hate.

876
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 6: Quite frankly, we're in we're in conversations with with the

877
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 6: Diplomatic Mission about returning our ancestors to Africa. Of course,

878
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 6: some of the ancestors would be would be would be

879
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 6: left here and they would be a part of the

880
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 6: museum project that my husband discussed earlier. But so there,

881
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 6: so there, So there's that very exciting possibility of of

882
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 6: of of our ancestors going back home now, and I

883
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 6: think it's a very realistic possibility that that can happen now.

884
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 6: I did want to mention that the U n resolution

885
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 6: was a very heart thoughts resolution that came before the

886
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 6: UN this week, and we're all still celebrating, quite frankly,

887
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 6: because this was the dream of Marcus Garvey, this was

888
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 6: the dream of Tika Terree, this was the dream of

889
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 6: Malcolm X that we would plead our case before the

890
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 6: United Nations and the wording of the resolution that slavery

891
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 6: was the gravest, it was the most horrific crime against

892
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 6: humanity was passed in the United nations, and so there

893
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 6: is no more debate that in terms of the scale

894
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 6: and the scope of mass murder in the international community,

895
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 6: that what happened to our community, that those of us

896
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 6: who are in fact survivors of genocide, which is the

897
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 6: way we should see ourselves, we were survivors of genocide,

898
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 6: that we prevailed. And now the entire international community has

899
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 6: gone on record acknowledging that this was the gravest.

900
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 7: Crime against humanity.

901
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 6: And you mentioned that there were three countries that opposed it,

902
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 6: the United States, Israel, and Argentina, but more important and

903
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 6: were equally as important where there were the cowardly states

904
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 6: in Europe basically except Russia. That that basically said that,

905
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 6: you know, they wanted to be considered neutral, but a

906
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 6: lot of these states hands are dripping with the blood

907
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 6: of African people, France, England, Germany, Belgium, and they all

908
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 6: abstained from acknowledging that this was the gravest crime against

909
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 6: humanity when their societies were built on the backs and

910
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 6: blood of African people. So so we just wanted just

911
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 6: to acknowledge and to congratulate, you know, particularly President John

912
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 6: Muhamma of Ghana who took took the lead in this

913
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 6: fight at the United Nations, and I'm sure Garvey and

914
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 6: Malcolm are all in heaven now, you know, congratulating him

915
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 6: and thanking him for taking.

916
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 13: On this fight.

917
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, because what he did family and put put the

918
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 3: fight across the world. The whole world knows now about reparations.

919
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 3: If they didn't, you know, some people try to put

920
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 3: the death that they don't they oh, they didn't know

921
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 3: that happened to us, and all that kind of stuff.

922
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,839
Speaker 3: And I agree with your system, Marshall. What he saw

923
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 3: was unity. It showed that just about nearly all the

924
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 3: black I know some some black countries are about two

925
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 3: or three abstained as well, but for the majority of

926
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 3: Black countries in the daspora, whether it be in South America,

927
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 3: the Caribbean, Central America continent, they all came out and

928
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 3: supporting the resolution that Goan as President put out. So

929
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,760
Speaker 3: I think that's that's where we're seeing in some progress

930
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 3: because you know, I mean, trying to divide us for

931
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 3: the longest, but now it seems like Black people are

932
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,919
Speaker 3: waking up. There's been an awakening across the entire dash

933
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 3: Bora that you know, we're all want and this is

934
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 3: our struggle and we've got to fight for it.

935
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 6: Right and you've seen, you know that that there's been

936
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 6: you know, I'm sorry shaking, but you're seeing that. You know,

937
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 6: certain very conservative forces in the black community have come

938
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 6: out and said some disparaging but for the most part

939
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 6: that's divide and conquered that you're in Europeans have used

940
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 6: so effectively against black people, right that you know, you've

941
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 6: got one voice, you know in the United States, you've

942
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 6: got another voice in Africa. But on this issue, the

943
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 6: Black world came together and we said, yes, this is

944
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 6: the gravest this is the most gravest crime against humanity.

945
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 6: And if we can continue that level of unity among ourselves,

946
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 6: which Europeans to a large extent have, I mean they

947
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 6: may fight among themselves on the big issues, they somehow

948
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 6: come together and we've got to learn that lessons coming

949
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 6: together and staying together in unity on issues that are

950
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 6: impacting the black worlds.

951
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 3: Really full of remines. They stay on code but go ahead.

952
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 10: Rap yeah, no, if I mean I want to remind

953
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,959
Speaker 10: us that Africa the rich is continent to New World.

954
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:58,720
Speaker 10: I read that it was yes a good if black

955
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 10: Black America I was considered the country that it will

956
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 10: probably be, you know, you know, one of the richest

957
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 10: eight countries in the world. You know, we have so

958
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 10: much wealth in our community here and so much wealth

959
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 10: in Africa, and I think what we need to be

960
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 10: thinking about, you know, across the ocean is how we

961
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 10: can you know, come together and use this wealth to

962
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 10: develop our people on both sides of you know, the ocean.

963
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 10: I have to pay homage to the later Leone Sullivan.

964
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 10: I mean, he was truly a hero of mine, if

965
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 10: you if you know, he wrote a book Up Build

966
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 10: Brother Building, and he has so much energy, is so

967
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 10: much in a passion for people, and I think we

968
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 10: need to return to that instead of you know, waiting

969
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 10: another folks, you know, to do things for us. We

970
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 10: have all that we need.

971
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 4: We have the human.

972
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 10: Resources, you know, we have the natural resources. You know,

973
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 10: we have all that it takes for us to come

974
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 10: together and make a people great, you know, all of

975
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:04,479
Speaker 10: the world. I also want to mention Marcia was talking

976
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 10: in terms of you know, returning the remains of ancestors

977
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 10: back to their homeland and the continent. I want to

978
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 10: you know, thank you know, the ambassador for the you know,

979
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 10: Dasparan African for our mission. Ambassador you know doctor Rika

980
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 10: you A.

981
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 4: Bennett.

982
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 10: She's been you know, working very closely with us to

983
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 10: to to make sure that this this this can happen.

984
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 10: We've listed there in Ghana, you know, last year and

985
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 10: she was very gracious and you know, you know, we

986
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 10: lay a plaque on the sankofa world uh in memory

987
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 10: of you know what we call the young you know,

988
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 10: black girls and boys that were destroyed that was you know,

989
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 10: in a murdered on on on on River Road. So

990
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 10: so we you know, we have so much to do

991
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 10: and we're excited about all the possibilities of over the

992
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 10: next years. Instead of worrying about those who have stained

993
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 10: those who are opposed that we're worried about ourselves that

994
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 10: we have worried ticks, you know, within also within our

995
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 10: community to come together, you know, to truly truly liberate

996
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 10: you know, people of African descent.

997
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 3: All right, twelve family, go ahead, marsh Yeah, No.

998
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 6: I just also wanted to applaud Ambassador Bennet because she

999
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 6: is I mean, I've said to her, I think she's

1000
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 6: the twenty first century Marcus, honorable Marcus Garvey. I mean,

1001
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 6: she has been leading this fight in Ghana organizing you know,

1002
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 6: you know, a diplomatic mission for the diast for and

1003
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 6: in fact, in terms of you know, the Africa Union

1004
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:51,919
Speaker 6: is divided into you know, I think five or six

1005
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 6: different sections, you know, North Africa, West Africa, Central Africa.

1006
00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 6: But now there is also a recognition that the diaspora

1007
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 6: people like us, are also a nation. So now there

1008
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 6: is a sixth nation within the Africa Union composed of

1009
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 6: the diaspora. So we are also considered a nation within

1010
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 6: the African Union. And so our embassy is located in

1011
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 6: Akragana and it's called the Diaspora Africa Forum. And we

1012
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 6: ask people when you go to Ta Ghana, please go

1013
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 6: to your mission, go to your diplomatic mission and need

1014
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 6: ambassador in it and talk to the people there who

1015
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 6: are fighting to bring the issues of diaspora to the

1016
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 6: international stage. So there's a lot of really wonderful things

1017
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 6: happening in the international community right now.

1018
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 3: Right we've got a lot of listeners in Ghana as well.

1019
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 3: Fourteen after top let me, I got a tweet question

1020
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 3: or a tweet suggestion from one of our listeners on

1021
00:59:56,600 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 3: the fight for the Cemetery of the tweeter saysion that

1022
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 3: it suggests that they should video and hold a ritual

1023
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 3: call on the ancestors at the mostly seminary and sprinkle

1024
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 3: essence around the building and that will hold these people

1025
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 3: off and call on the ancestors kind of kind of

1026
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 3: I think they kind of what they do and you know,

1027
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 3: kind of when you pour the drink, drink whatever that

1028
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 3: is the water?

1029
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 5: Uh, could I call yeah?

1030
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 17: Good?

1031
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 3: Go ahead.

1032
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 13: Bill.

1033
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 5: First, I just want to say one of the main

1034
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 5: reasons we're talking about this issue, the U and I

1035
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 5: A is very much support and in Bob with back.

1036
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 5: But what we need to really be clear on is

1037
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 5: the spiritual work that you're talking about is being done

1038
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 5: and it's going to continue to be done, not just

1039
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 5: here in the DMV but around the world, not just

1040
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 5: the U and I A. But as you just heard about,

1041
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 5: Erica Bennett and a lot of people outside of this

1042
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 5: area where now and are working their mojo, and we

1043
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 5: will continue to do that spiritual work. But I also

1044
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 5: want to make it clear to everybody and what we

1045
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 5: are here today to do is to call on other

1046
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 5: Africans to understand and that if we cannot support our

1047
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 5: African ancestors, we're not really supporting ourselves properly. So it's

1048
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 5: very very important for us the listeners, to understand how

1049
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 5: they can be supportive of the work that's going on.

1050
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 5: I don't have much more to say because Marsha and

1051
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 5: REVERENDI to Bayo are definitely making it clear we are

1052
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 5: making progress. Listen, in our age, over one hundred years

1053
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 5: of age, we're still here. We're still working, we're still building.

1054
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 5: We've been oppressed for over five hundred or so years.

1055
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 5: We're still working. But let's don't forget that. We go

1056
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 5: back a million years, so there's a lot of time

1057
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 5: before those five hundred years when we were in harmony.

1058
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 5: We can get back to that. So let's keep the faith.

1059
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 5: Let's stay focused and understand that BAK is not going anywhere,

1060
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 5: but there's The African Cemetery Coalition has the total support

1061
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 5: of the Government, of the Universal Negro Improvement Association, African

1062
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 5: Emeritry's League, Rehabilitating Committee, and many other Africans around the world.

1063
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:00,919
Speaker 5: I just want to make that clear. So what we're

1064
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 5: here today to do is to get other Africans aware

1065
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 5: that they need to be supportive of this because we

1066
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 5: are still being oppressed today. It didn't stop, and reparations

1067
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 5: is very important, but we are working with people who

1068
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 5: have repatriated and are working on the continent, so this

1069
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 5: work is global. It is very important. This cemetery work

1070
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 5: is taking place in Bethesda. It's critical to Africans everywhere.

1071
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 5: I'll stop on that point and continue to listen because

1072
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 5: I know the lawyer is coming on soon and people

1073
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 5: need to be clear how they can be supportive of us.

1074
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 3: Right well, hold on thorry that because we come upround

1075
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 3: a break. I got to ask you this though, System

1076
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 3: Marsha and Reverend out of Bail, any of the elected

1077
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 3: black elected officials in Montgomery County are they helping you

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Speaker 3: or they are working against you? And I'll let you

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Speaker 3: respond when we get back from this break. Eighteen minutes

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Speaker 3: off the top of our family again, we're fighting to

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Speaker 3: save a black cemetery in Bethesda, Maryland. And the Siste

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01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 3: Marsha out of Bail, husband Segan out of Bear's with

1083
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 3: us as well. They've been in the front for this ruggle.

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01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 3: They've been doing it for ten years. The bodies of

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01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 3: our answers are buried over there and they're paving it over.

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01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 3: They've taken out the remains and taken them to another state.

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01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 3: What are we gonna do? We're gonna sit back and

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01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 3: let this happen, or can we help Sister Marsha and

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01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 3: Reverend out of bail. You know how to reach us

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Speaker 3: eight hundred four to five zero seventy eight seventy six.

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Speaker 3: We'll take your phone calls next and Grand Rising family,

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01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 3: thanks for checking in with us on this Monday morning.

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01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 3: Thanks for starting your week with us again. We're trying

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01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 3: to help these folks fight to save a black cemetery. Bethesda, Maryland,

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01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 3: one of the more wealthiest areas in the country. It's

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01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 3: in Montgomery County. And before we left for the break,

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01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:34,919
Speaker 3: I was asking Sister Marsha and the Reverend out of bail,

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01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 3: there's our guest this morning, if they've had any help

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Speaker 3: from any of their black elected officials in Montgomery County system.

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Speaker 8: Marsha, No, No, The.

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01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 6: Answer to the question is no. You know, unfortunately, you know,

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01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 6: the Democratic Party you know is tied to commercial interests

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01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 6: and it is to developers who are who you know.

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01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 6: We are fighting against the developers in our in our community.

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01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 6: So we've been very disappointed with the black politicians in

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01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 6: Montgomery County In fact, you know, one of the one

1107
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 6: of the politicians, you know, I was running for county executives,

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01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 6: actually took money from the developer, and when we confronted

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01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 6: him about that, we found out about it just through

1110
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 6: the usual sources.

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 6: We asked him, we actually offered to give him the

1113
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 6: money that the developer paid him so that he could

1114
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 6: pay to give the money back to the developer.

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Speaker 5: And he said no.

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01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 6: And the reason why he said no is because developers

1117
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 6: in this country, and particularly in Montgomery County, basically pay

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01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 6: a lot of this. They provide a lot of funds

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Speaker 6: for the campaigns for Democratic and Republican I suppose candidates,

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Speaker 6: and so when you go up against the developer class,

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01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 6: you're going up against capital and that's what we've been

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01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 6: fighting against. But the good side of the story is

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01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 6: that our community has been forthcoming in terms of financial

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01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 6: reso versus and we need more. So we ask people

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Speaker 6: to please go to our website and it says the

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01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 6: African Cemetery Coalition dot net, But does the African Cemetery

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01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 6: Coalition dot net and make a contribution because we this

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01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 6: is a very expensive battle, as you can imagine, and

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01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 6: we're up against people who have unlimited money and unlimited

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01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 6: access to politicians. But as I've mentioned before, you know,

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01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 6: politicians that you would have expected to support us, like

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Speaker 6: Towny Executive Mark Elrich, Congressman Jamie Raskin, Congressman Van Chris

1133
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 6: van Holland. None of these people have stepped forward to

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01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 6: to to to to UH to declare that desecration is

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Speaker 6: a crime against humanity.

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Speaker 9: And as you said, if.

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Speaker 6: They have been Jewish or even a dog or cat cemetery,

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01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 6: they would have.

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Speaker 9: Done that by now.

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01:05:56,880 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 6: But they're but they're terrified of going up against the developers.

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01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 6: I did want to say that in terms of you know,

1142
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 6: I have mentioned that we are you know, you know,

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01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 6: planning on taking.

1144
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 7: Remains the remains once.

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01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:18,439
Speaker 6: We're able to get the developers to relinquish our ancestors.

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01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 6: That one plan is to take you know, the majority

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01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 6: of those remains back to Africa, and we are going

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01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 6: to invite our community to join us. We're not going

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01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 6: to go by ourselves. We would love to be able

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01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 6: to charter one or two airplanes and take those remains

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01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 6: back to Africa, and we're going to be greeted. I

1152
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 6: believe in Africa in the most superior way in terms

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01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 6: of bringing back their children to Africa to finally rest

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Speaker 6: in peace. And you know, Carl, we'll be talking about

1155
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 6: this in the next couple of months as we begin

1156
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 6: to plan what we're hoping is going to be a

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01:06:56,000 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 6: major celebration of our community taking that our children to

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01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 6: Africa and allowing them to rest in a continent that

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01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 6: loves them as opposed to a place that tortured them.

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Speaker 6: So we're asking your your your listeners to pay attention

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01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 6: to this, to become involved with us, and to make

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01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 6: this this vision that we have a reality.

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Speaker 3: All right, got another tweet for twenty five after the

1164
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 3: top down. Go ahead, Rab, I'll read the tweet after

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Speaker 3: you finished speaking.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, yeah, if I may.

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Speaker 10: In terms of your question about you know blood politicians

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01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 10: and you know the politicians, one of the things I

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01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 10: found out is, you know, you know politicians are in

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01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 10: the club by themselves. Uh, they are.

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Speaker 4: Very culier people.

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Speaker 13: I think they.

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Speaker 10: Came off of power and position them privilege them principles,

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01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 10: you know most of the time. And I think in

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Speaker 10: the lives reginal because we as a community have not

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01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 10: demanded that they respect us, so they take us for

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Speaker 10: granted that they are white or they are black, and

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Speaker 10: so we couldify ourselves as Democrats or Republicans, and in

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01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:21,360
Speaker 10: Montgomery County it's a democratic unc live and so they

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01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 10: always believe that when they primary then they will be

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01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 10: the presumptive in officeholder. So I think the issues that

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01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 10: we have not you know, made them to respect us,

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01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 10: and that's why they don't really care for, you know,

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01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 10: some of the things we care. But I also want

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01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 10: to mention that you know, Basis is part of a

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01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 10: group here Montgomery County called the Black United Front that

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Speaker 10: consists of so many other black organizations fighting on different fronts. Uh,

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01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:55,560
Speaker 10: you know, those who are fighting within the school you know,

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Speaker 10: health care, you know housing, you know, prison and so

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01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:01,560
Speaker 10: on and so forth. And so we are finding a

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01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 10: way to work together to demand and to make the

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01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 10: partitions here to listen to us and to respect us.

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01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 10: So so that and that's my that's my take on

1194
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 10: that that you know, we you know, in a lot

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01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:18,600
Speaker 10: of you know ways, if we don't respect our ancestors,

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01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 10: we don't respect ourselves, and we can expect anyone to

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01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 10: respect us.

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Speaker 3: Got you in twenty seven at the top of they

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Speaker 3: have family. That was Reverend seg at the bail Long

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01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 3: with his wife Marsha and a ball. They've been in

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01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 3: the vanguard of this fight. Just say save a black

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01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 3: cemetery and Protessa Maryland's mostly cemetery. A question, A twet question.

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01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 3: I mentioned that Tweeter wanted to know if you if

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01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 3: any of you guys who contacted the governor about this.

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01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:44,840
Speaker 18: Yes, we have.

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01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 6: I've spoken to the governor's office. It's been a complete,

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01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 6: you know, disappointment. And when you consider, you know, the

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01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 6: number of black votes he received as a black governor,

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01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 6: and actually he ran on one of the one of

1210
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:02,600
Speaker 6: the platforms he ran on was it was, you know,

1211
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 6: his respect for black history and our ancestors. And yep,

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01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 6: obviously when he took office, things changed in terms of

1213
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 6: his boat around you know, incarceration of children as young

1214
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 6: as ten years old and charging them as adults. And

1215
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 6: of course we all know the code is that these

1216
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 6: are black kids and not white kids. And as well

1217
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 6: as the cemetery issue. We actually had a campaign where

1218
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:32,719
Speaker 6: we sent him, you know, hundreds, maybe thousands of cards

1219
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 6: asking him to get involved. Absolutely no response from his office.

1220
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 6: We actually went to one of his I think it

1221
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 6: was a birthday party or a fundraiser that he had

1222
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:46,640
Speaker 6: in Potomac, Maryland, and you know we were, you know,

1223
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 6: we were, you know, completely ignored there. And then I

1224
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:53,640
Speaker 6: received a phone call from his office and one of

1225
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 6: his staff people was chiding me like, how dare you

1226
01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:00,679
Speaker 6: protest the first black governor of Maryland?

1227
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 8: You know, who do you?

1228
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 6: People think you are.

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01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 2: Kind of thing?

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01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 6: And so that's been ours, that's been our that's been

1231
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 6: you know, oh, hold up right.

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01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:11,559
Speaker 3: There, it's just a marshall. Well, what was your response

1233
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 3: when when when they came at you like that, how

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01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:15,760
Speaker 3: did you respond to that?

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Speaker 6: I said, it was absolutely our responsibility. It was our

1236
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 6: responsibility and our duty to protest this governor because you know,

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01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:28,520
Speaker 6: anyone who does not see the humanity of our ancestors,

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01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 6: we must, we must protest. And whether they're black, white,

1239
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 6: or yellow or chartreuse, it makes no difference to us.

1240
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 6: But not only that, but you have to understand that

1241
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 6: this desecration is a cover up of crimes. That's what

1242
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 6: the human resolution was about. This is a cover up

1243
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 6: of crimes against humanity, a murder, of rape, of of

1244
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 6: of you know, of kidnapping, That's what this is about.

1245
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 6: It's not just simply that you know, you know, you know,

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01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 6: we're we're opposed to this creation. We are opposed to desecration,

1247
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:05,840
Speaker 6: but we're also opposed to the cover up of the murder.

1248
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 6: And not only that, but the reason why they don't

1249
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:11,719
Speaker 6: even consider this murder is because they do not consider

1250
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:16,760
Speaker 6: Black people human. And the most vivid expression of the

1251
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 6: fact that they do not consider us human, it's the

1252
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:23,559
Speaker 6: desecration of our ancestors. We have to understand that notion

1253
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 6: and everything flows from that concept of the fact that

1254
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 6: we are not human. That way, you know, the state

1255
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 6: has no problems with incarcerating young black boys as early

1256
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:42,120
Speaker 6: as ten years old. They have no problem incarcerating our children,

1257
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 6: They have no problem with placing black bodies at the

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01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 6: front of war lines. Because fundamentally, the issue that we've

1259
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 6: been dealing with for the last four hundred years is

1260
01:12:54,560 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 6: whether black people are considered human. And so the desecration

1261
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 6: is another expression of the cover up that they do

1262
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 6: not consider us human, that in fact, we are still

1263
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 6: being treated as chattel, as things. And so when you

1264
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:14,720
Speaker 6: have a thing, of course you can dig it up

1265
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:16,720
Speaker 6: and you can take it someplace else, and you can

1266
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:20,839
Speaker 6: destroy it. If we're only things, then we're not human

1267
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 6: and that's what the UN resolution was about. It talked

1268
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 6: about the fact that the international community sees us as

1269
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 6: racialized chattel. And so, you know, if it's one thing

1270
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:37,600
Speaker 6: I want your listeners to walk away with from this

1271
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 6: conversation is that this battle that we're involved in is

1272
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:47,919
Speaker 6: not about, you know, beautifying cemeteries. And although that's important,

1273
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:51,720
Speaker 6: and it's not about the fact that they've turned over headstones,

1274
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 6: although that's important, Montgomery County actually understood that there was

1275
01:13:56,520 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 6: a cemetery of African people on River Road. He gave

1276
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 6: developers a permit to go in and dig up the

1277
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 6: grades of children, African children who had been kidnapped and

1278
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 6: brought to Montgomery County, who were violently raped, who were

1279
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 6: violently murdered, whose entire lives were destroyed, and in order

1280
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:25,719
Speaker 6: to build a self storage unit, in order to build

1281
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 6: something for them to continue to make money. This in

1282
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 6: and of itself tells you what they think our status

1283
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 6: is of human beings. And if they can do that

1284
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 6: to our people, they can do anything to us. So

1285
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 6: it's important that we stop this kind of disregard for

1286
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:44,480
Speaker 6: humanity at this level of the desecration.

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01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 3: Although it's my house right all right there, it's twenty

1288
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 3: eight minutes to wave for the top of the Our

1289
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:52,599
Speaker 3: attorney Ari Teresa's joining us before we go to the council. Though,

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01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 3: question for you, because you mentioned that would happened in

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Speaker 3: reparations and the fact where some people didn't joining on

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Speaker 3: supporting reparations, do you think that's the reason why they've

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01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:05,639
Speaker 3: been sort of resistant taking any stand on what's going

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01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:07,640
Speaker 3: on with black cemetery because they know at the end,

1295
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 3: if you guys win, they're going to have to write

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01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 3: a check to somebody or to some group. Do you

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01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 3: think that's the issue?

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Speaker 6: Well, I think that's a great question for our attorney

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01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:20,680
Speaker 6: Ari Teresa, But no, I think fundamentally I've hit it

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01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 6: on the nail. Is that is that they really they

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01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 6: have been so used to being able to run over

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01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 6: black communities, disrespect black communities. I think that they were

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01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 6: shocked when our community put up this kind of united

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01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 6: front against them. And I think one of the issues

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01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:41,360
Speaker 6: that our attorney will talk about is just how sloppy

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01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:44,640
Speaker 6: they were in terms of in terms of how they

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01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 6: treated you know, you know, the evidence, and how they

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01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:52,480
Speaker 6: went about their work because they just were not expecting

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01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 6: the black community to rise up against them the way

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01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 6: we have. And so we see this as a crime

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01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 6: against humanity, the desecration, it was a murder, There was rape,

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01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 6: there was kidnapping, and that is what we are fighting.

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01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 6: Is we're holding a mirror to the entire world and

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01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 6: saying that that is those are the crimes that occurred

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01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 6: in the defense of Maryland.

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01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:18,519
Speaker 3: And well, let's bring on the lawyer now twenty seven

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01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:21,719
Speaker 3: away from the top. They are Attorney Ari Teresa Grant Rising.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the program.

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Speaker 4: Hi, how are you.

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Speaker 3: We're still learning. I'm still learning more and more about

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01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:30,760
Speaker 3: what's going on in Moses Cemetery. But a question I

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01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 3: opposed to, Sister marsh is the fact that that may

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01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 3: be a financial component to this. Why you see the

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01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 3: reaction or no, no reaction coming out of Montgomery County

1325
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 3: because now they figured you guys have an attorney like yourself.

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01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:45,640
Speaker 3: Do you think that's one of the reasons why they're

1327
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 3: trying to just, you know, hope this this thing just

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01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 3: blows over.

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Speaker 12: I have a hard time understanding Montgomery County's actions in

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01:16:56,800 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 12: this matter. I know they they put stipulations on the

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01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:08,480
Speaker 12: site when it first got permitted back in like twenty seventeen,

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01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 12: So like between twenty seventeen and twenty twenty, Montgomery County

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01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 12: put stipulations on the developer. I think that this was

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01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 12: in response to political pressure from bACC and members of

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01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 12: the descendant community and people in Bethesda, and so they

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01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 12: responded to that political pressure and you know, we know,

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01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 12: like a big picture, there was also Black Lives Matter

1338
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 12: happening and just a you know, a very different space

1339
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 12: in the country, and they responded to that and put

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01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 12: you know, some pretty good stipulations on the site. But

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01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 12: then as time went on, they didn't really look into

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01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 12: it very much, didn't you know, took people's words for it,

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01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 12: you know, kind of ignored stuff. And you know, here

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01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 12: we are many years later, and you know, I have

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01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 12: a hard time understanding like why endeavor to put those

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01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 12: stipulations on it and then like not do anything. And

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01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:17,560
Speaker 12: that's kind of what they did. They put stipulations on

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01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 12: the site, and then they didn't really follow up, and

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01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 12: then when it became apparent that things were like going awry,

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01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 12: they just kind of, you know silently, you know, backed

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01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 12: away from it. So I would think maybe it's like

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01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:37,680
Speaker 12: a financial thing, Maybe Montgomery County doesn't want to be

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01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 12: seen as anti development or you know, people are going

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01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 12: to give landowners a hard time who are coming to

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01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 12: like develop that's probably it money.

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Speaker 3: Do you think they underestimated the fact that this is

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01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:56,519
Speaker 3: a small black group just you know, just probably just

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01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 3: see them as sort of troublemakers. You know, they'll they'll

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01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 3: give up after one. They're not going to come out

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01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:04,560
Speaker 3: there every day and protest. It'll soon blow over and

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01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 3: they can go on with that business. Do you think

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01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 3: that's what was part of it?

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01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 4: It could be.

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Speaker 12: I think the developers were heavily incentivized to hide what

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01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 12: they found, because if you were to find human remains

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01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 12: on a site that you built on, you know, there

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01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 12: are all kinds of other statutes that trigger you know,

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01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 12: your land would become restricted in ways that you don't

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01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:40,680
Speaker 12: want your land to be restricted. I mean, that's one

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01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 12: of the fundamental things about property law is you want

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01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 12: your land to have as few restrictions on it as possible.

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01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 12: And if you find human remains, you know, you almost

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01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 12: no longer have a freehold control of your land.

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Speaker 3: And so that I think that well hold right there,

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01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 3: account We're going to take a short break and check

1376
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 3: the traffic, weather and the news in our different cities.

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01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:05,600
Speaker 3: It's twenty three minutes away from the top of the

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01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 3: hour to hear voice. You're hearing this Attorney Ari Teresa

1379
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:11,000
Speaker 3: is the attorney for the group that's fighting to save

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01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:14,679
Speaker 3: a black cemetery in Bethesda, Maryland, along with Sister Marsha

1381
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:16,639
Speaker 3: out of Bayl. We've got her husband, he's the reverend

1382
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:18,680
Speaker 3: out of Bayo and they're in the front line of

1383
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:21,080
Speaker 3: fighting to save the cemetery. Just think about the family.

1384
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 3: Just because a pet cemetery, a Jewish cemetery, Asian, this

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01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:26,559
Speaker 3: wouldn't have happened. So they're in the fight and they've

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01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 3: been doing it for ten years. You want to get

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01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 3: in on this discussion, hit us up at eight hundred

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Speaker 3: four to five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll

1389
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 3: take your phone calls after we check the news. That's next.

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Speaker 3: So last week in March with doctor Marshall out of

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01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:42,439
Speaker 3: bay and also Reverend Seagun out of Bayl. Many have

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01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 3: heard them before. They're in the vanguard of the fight

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01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 3: to save a black cemetery in Montgomery County. In Mathhesta,

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01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:51,240
Speaker 3: the b Exact also along with them they're Attorney Ari

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01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:53,320
Speaker 3: Teresa's with us as well, and also brother saying go

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01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 3: by Gavat is also joining us as well. Before we

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01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:58,639
Speaker 3: go back to an elements, remind you comp late. This morning,

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Speaker 3: we speak to the President general of the Universally African

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01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 3: People's Organization, that'll be want Zaki Brudi. Before we speak

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01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 3: to Zaki, we're going to introduce you to one of

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01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 3: our colleagues here at Urban one, the vice president of

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01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:11,639
Speaker 3: production of TV one'net and Newman. She's got a project

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01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:13,640
Speaker 3: she's working on and Shedia helps. We'll get to that

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01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 3: as well. And later this week the master teacher, brother

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01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:18,920
Speaker 3: ashra Qua, she's going to join us. Also, doctor Saby's

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01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:21,679
Speaker 3: son Abdul will be here and Pan Africanist doctor David

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01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 3: Hornet also checking. So if you are in Baltimore, make

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01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:26,120
Speaker 3: sure you keep that radio locked in tight on ten

1409
01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 3: ten WLB or if we have the DMV the Washington

1410
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 3: Metropolitan here or on fourteen fifty WL. Let me go

1411
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:35,800
Speaker 3: back to the Council of Aria Teresa. So where are

1412
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:39,360
Speaker 3: we legally with this? The fight is with this with

1413
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:40,640
Speaker 3: this cemetery.

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01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 12: Well, we have a court hearing the Montgomery County Circuit

1415
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 12: court one thirty pm April ninth to go for some

1416
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 12: pre trial scheduling, and then we have emotions hearing May

1417
01:21:56,080 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 12: seventh or May fourth, rather May fourth. And we have

1418
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 12: a lot of motions pending before the court right now

1419
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 12: to go forward to trial, to limit the scope of

1420
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:21,160
Speaker 12: expert testimony, for sanctions for destroying evidence, and so a

1421
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 12: lot is pending before the court right now.

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01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 3: Is there is there a possibility could you final an

1423
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,680
Speaker 3: injunction to stop the desecration of the cemetery?

1424
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 6: One?

1425
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 3: And also if you win this case, could could you

1426
01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 3: have him tear down that that building, uh the pavement

1427
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 3: and returning to its natural place it was a cemetery?

1428
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:43,600
Speaker 3: Where answer, is that a possibility?

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01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:51,680
Speaker 12: I think it's possible. I don't think it's impossible. I

1430
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 12: don't think it's likely that they would tear the building

1431
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 12: down if we win the case. But I think it's

1432
01:22:57,560 --> 01:23:05,320
Speaker 12: possible and would be a form of equitable relief. Uh,

1433
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 12: it would ultimately be up to the court and the

1434
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 12: judge about what what kind of relief we would get

1435
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:17,800
Speaker 12: in terms of the building being torn down. That that

1436
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:19,639
Speaker 12: would totally be up to the judge.

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01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 3: All right, Interesting, that's just a Marsha. Have you the

1438
01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:29,959
Speaker 3: relatives who have their relatives who were buried in that cemetery?

1439
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:32,519
Speaker 3: Have they spoken of? Have they been have they been

1440
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 3: spoken before the court yet? To you know, say that

1441
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:39,040
Speaker 3: they were harmed by this, this the them tearing up

1442
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 3: the remains of their families and you don't know where

1443
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:44,120
Speaker 3: the remains are. Have they testified or before the court

1444
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:45,080
Speaker 3: yet or anything like that.

1445
01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:46,679
Speaker 13: Yeah.

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01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:51,720
Speaker 6: Two of the plaintiffs in this case of descendants and

1447
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 6: one in fact you know, used to their family used

1448
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:58,839
Speaker 6: to own that plot of land, the Warren family, Darreyl Cuba.

1449
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:02,679
Speaker 6: So yeah, I mean, you know, it is our desire

1450
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 6: that the land is returned to the community and that

1451
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 6: the property is not continued to be used as a

1452
01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:11,599
Speaker 6: self storage unit.

1453
01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 7: I just wanted your audience.

1454
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 6: To know that the self we have been talking a

1455
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:22,160
Speaker 6: lot about where the what stage a self storage unit

1456
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 6: is in. It is now fully built. The lights are on,

1457
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:29,680
Speaker 6: they're now working in the interior of the building. And

1458
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:32,600
Speaker 6: it seemed to me that, you know, their goal was

1459
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 6: to build this thing so that we would have this

1460
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 6: conversation whether or not it could be torn down. I mean,

1461
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 6: they knew that they were finding remains, and they continue

1462
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 6: to build this property despite the fact that they knew

1463
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 6: that the community had voiced outrage about it, and the

1464
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 6: fact that that and that they had engaged in trafficking

1465
01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 6: of these remains across state lines and placing these remains

1466
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:02,519
Speaker 6: inside of a w S Side warehouse. So there's a

1467
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 6: lot of you know, premeditation that went on, and I

1468
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 6: think their game plan was to build it and then

1469
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:12,559
Speaker 6: and then I hope that the court would not ask

1470
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 6: them to tear it down once it was built.

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Speaker 3: All right, turn away from the top of the family

1472
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:19,639
Speaker 3: just checking in. That was Masha at the Bayo along

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01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:22,760
Speaker 3: with her husband, the Reverend Seagun added Bayo. They're in

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01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:25,759
Speaker 3: the vanguard of the fight to save a black cemetery Prothesda, Maryland.

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01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:28,400
Speaker 3: It's one of the more wealthy areas in the country.

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01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 3: It's located in Montgomery County, just out of side Washington,

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Speaker 3: d C. And their attorney Ari Teresa is here. Ari

1478
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:38,120
Speaker 3: at some point I asked about an injunction. Are they

1479
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:40,639
Speaker 3: still building there is where we can stop them from

1480
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:44,880
Speaker 3: bulldozing and tossing the remains of our ancestors out.

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01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 12: Well, the building is I want to say, eighty eighty

1482
01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:53,800
Speaker 12: five percent built it has been so for a while.

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01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 12: I think they're just working on the inside now. I

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01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 12: do know that there is some excavation occurring, but just

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01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:09,160
Speaker 12: for the legal standard of an injunction, uh, at this

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01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 12: at this phase, at this point, you know, I don't.

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01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 12: I don't think it's possible. I know one was raised

1488
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:20,639
Speaker 12: a long time ago before I came onto the case,

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01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:25,759
Speaker 12: and was withdrawn for one reason or another by counsel

1490
01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 12: at the time.

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Speaker 11: And you know that in.

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Speaker 12: Itself may be legally prohibitive of getting another.

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01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 3: All right, share with us. What are you asking for, then?

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01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:39,840
Speaker 3: What are you asking the court for?

1495
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:45,639
Speaker 12: Well, we're asking the court to make a finding right

1496
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:51,760
Speaker 12: now that they that they did not comply with the

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01:26:51,880 --> 01:27:00,599
Speaker 12: permitting regulations requiring requiring them to share information and evidence

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01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:05,439
Speaker 12: or human remains with us. Getting the court to make

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01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:12,639
Speaker 12: a finding that they destroyed funerary objects and discarded them.

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01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:18,759
Speaker 12: And we're also asking for the remains to be handed

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01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 12: back over, even though there are not many. I think

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01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:27,439
Speaker 12: there are four bone samples left and they destroyed seventy

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01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 12: two out of seventy six of them. So we're going

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01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:39,200
Speaker 12: to ask for what they have remaining, and we're asking

1505
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:44,880
Speaker 12: for some equitable relief in terms of access to the land,

1506
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:50,880
Speaker 12: maybe for some of the land, so we can honor

1507
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:59,440
Speaker 12: our ancestors. I think that money is also being requested

1508
01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:07,479
Speaker 12: damages for their behavior. You know, they've profited off of

1509
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:11,479
Speaker 12: building on top of this cemetery, and we believe that

1510
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 12: they knew that that that's what they were doing. And

1511
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:21,600
Speaker 12: so we're requesting uh constructive trust to be attached to

1512
01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:24,559
Speaker 12: the building because they should not be able to profit

1513
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:30,720
Speaker 12: from those wrongful behaviors. So there's there's a lot that

1514
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:35,599
Speaker 12: we're requesting, and I think even tearing down the building

1515
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:41,559
Speaker 12: is a fair request given given what they've done.

1516
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:45,640
Speaker 3: Well, let me ask the Reverend Ada bail this. It's

1517
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:48,000
Speaker 3: seven minutes away from the top of that right when

1518
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 3: you go out there, do you try to communicate with

1519
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:56,000
Speaker 3: our ancestors. Do you pray or libations to our ancestors

1520
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:57,680
Speaker 3: to try to figure out a way and you know,

1521
01:28:57,880 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 3: just just ask them for help and make sound kind

1522
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:02,760
Speaker 3: of strange for some people who don't believe that we

1523
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 3: can talk about ancestors, but it's just something that you

1524
01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 3: do when you go out to the most of the cemetery.

1525
01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:12,360
Speaker 10: Absolutely, absolutely, the first thing that we do whenever we

1526
01:29:12,479 --> 01:29:13,839
Speaker 10: go there, we pull libation.

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01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:14,880
Speaker 13: Uh.

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01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:19,320
Speaker 10: It's a part of you know, traditional African culture, at

1529
01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:22,160
Speaker 10: least from the part of Africa where we come from.

1530
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:26,040
Speaker 10: Before you have any serious meetings, you have to you know,

1531
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:30,120
Speaker 10: seek permission of the ancestors and invite them to come

1532
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:33,120
Speaker 10: and you know, guide your thoughts and minds and you know,

1533
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 10: strengthen you. You know, so we we we we we

1534
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:40,640
Speaker 10: lead that and the on the foundation of the value of.

1535
01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:41,479
Speaker 4: The dry bones.

1536
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:46,439
Speaker 10: So even though they are now with us in human flesh. Uh,

1537
01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:49,479
Speaker 10: you know, there are spirits out there, and so we

1538
01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:53,320
Speaker 10: we we we call upon them. Let them know that

1539
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:57,400
Speaker 10: you know, we we we are not them, and we

1540
01:29:57,880 --> 01:30:01,560
Speaker 10: we we valued you know, you know the gens that

1541
01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:05,080
Speaker 10: they're given to us. And so we you know, we

1542
01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:08,760
Speaker 10: we we we really will call on them. Let me

1543
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:12,080
Speaker 10: use the opportity to just thank you know, mister you

1544
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:15,559
Speaker 10: know Arid, you know Teresa for you know, taking us

1545
01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:18,519
Speaker 10: on this case. Because if that it hadn't been for him,

1546
01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:21,040
Speaker 10: I don't know where we would do, you know where

1547
01:30:21,080 --> 01:30:23,720
Speaker 10: it would be. And so when folks ask, you know,

1548
01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:27,479
Speaker 10: where's God, I'll say, well, you know, look at Arid Teresa,

1549
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:31,840
Speaker 10: because without God bringing him to us, we we will

1550
01:30:31,880 --> 01:30:33,120
Speaker 10: have lost our case.

1551
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:36,240
Speaker 3: And sister Marsha, what's the next step.

1552
01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:40,719
Speaker 7: Well, the next step is, you know, we're going to quote.

1553
01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:46,640
Speaker 6: As Attorney Teresa said, April ninth at one thirty and

1554
01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:48,439
Speaker 6: then May ninth, I think.

1555
01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:52,320
Speaker 12: It was maybe maybe what time is?

1556
01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:53,719
Speaker 6: What time is the hearing?

1557
01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:56,439
Speaker 12: Ten am.

1558
01:30:57,920 --> 01:30:58,599
Speaker 7: At ten am?

1559
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:01,000
Speaker 13: And we're asked the place.

1560
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:06,400
Speaker 12: Good April ninth is one thirty, the.

1561
01:31:06,479 --> 01:31:13,639
Speaker 6: April ninth, April ninth, one thirty, and May fourth at yeah,

1562
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:16,439
Speaker 6: ten am. And so we're asking the community to police,

1563
01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:18,720
Speaker 6: come out and support us. It's going to be very

1564
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:22,599
Speaker 6: important that the community filled the court. That we must

1565
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:27,040
Speaker 6: fill the court room, particularly in May where a lot

1566
01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:30,719
Speaker 6: of emotions will be addressed and decided by the court.

1567
01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:34,040
Speaker 6: So we're asking everyone please mark that on your calendar,

1568
01:31:34,720 --> 01:31:38,280
Speaker 6: Please come out to the Montgomery County Circuit Court in

1569
01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:45,320
Speaker 6: Rockville and support this issue. You're supporting yourself actually by

1570
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:49,680
Speaker 6: making sure that the desecration stops in Besesta, Maryland. There

1571
01:31:49,720 --> 01:31:54,960
Speaker 6: were crimes against humanity that occurred in the Festa, and

1572
01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:58,680
Speaker 6: these crimes against humanity have had all kinds of you know,

1573
01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:03,160
Speaker 6: a reverberation throughout our society. So it's important that our

1574
01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:06,519
Speaker 6: community supports us, and please go to our website at

1575
01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:12,400
Speaker 6: the SESDA African Cemeterycoalition dot net please make a contribution.

1576
01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:16,519
Speaker 6: It's a very expensive process that we're engaged in, but

1577
01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:19,519
Speaker 6: if we all come together, we will win this case.

1578
01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:22,559
Speaker 6: And I also wanted to join my husband and thinking.

1579
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:28,400
Speaker 6: You know our attorney Ari Teresa. It's an absolutely brilliant,

1580
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:32,679
Speaker 6: brilliant attorney and he's turned this case around in ways

1581
01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:36,840
Speaker 6: that are just incredible. So we're thanking him, and we're

1582
01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:42,600
Speaker 6: thinking Ambassador Erica Bennett and Ghana for her support and

1583
01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:45,760
Speaker 6: the Ganean government so having the courage to take this

1584
01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:49,479
Speaker 6: issue before the United Nations. And we thank you so much, Carl.

1585
01:32:49,880 --> 01:32:52,439
Speaker 3: All right, we'll hold out though right here because with money.

1586
01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:54,360
Speaker 3: Mike in Baltimore has a question for you guys, and

1587
01:32:54,439 --> 01:32:56,600
Speaker 3: we got to check the traffic and weather in our

1588
01:32:56,640 --> 01:32:59,559
Speaker 3: different cities. Two minutes away from the top Day family,

1589
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:01,160
Speaker 3: that's the time just joined us. We have a group

1590
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:03,759
Speaker 3: from the group that's trying to fight to their fighting

1591
01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:06,479
Speaker 3: actually to save a black semittery in Bethesda, Maryland. You

1592
01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:08,160
Speaker 3: want to get in on this discussion, hit us up

1593
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 3: at eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six

1594
01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:13,400
Speaker 3: month ticket phone calls like we speak with Money Mike

1595
01:33:13,479 --> 01:33:16,519
Speaker 3: when we get back after checking the news, sports and

1596
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:19,560
Speaker 3: weather and traffic. That's next, right seeing family, Thanks for

1597
01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:21,960
Speaker 3: starting your week with us. This is last Monday in March.

1598
01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:24,560
Speaker 3: Where did it go? Right now? And Marma tell you

1599
01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:26,040
Speaker 3: We're going to speak to one of our colleagues at

1600
01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:28,960
Speaker 3: Urban One, Sister Connect Numant. But first just wrap up

1601
01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:31,760
Speaker 3: with the with the panel discussing how to save a

1602
01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:35,400
Speaker 3: black cemetery in Prothesta Maryland. We have a Reverend Sagun

1603
01:33:35,479 --> 01:33:38,840
Speaker 3: out of Bayo. We've got a sister doctor marsha Ada Bayo.

1604
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:42,000
Speaker 3: We've got their attorney Ari Teresia. Also have brother Seango Baya.

1605
01:33:42,439 --> 01:33:44,680
Speaker 3: But Money Mike call from Baltimore and he's got a

1606
01:33:44,760 --> 01:33:47,839
Speaker 3: question for the group. He's online four grand rising Money Mike.

1607
01:33:49,400 --> 01:33:49,960
Speaker 17: More on call.

1608
01:33:50,360 --> 01:33:53,080
Speaker 5: Uh, mister Draper, I got a question for you.

1609
01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:56,920
Speaker 19: Has there ever been a similar case to this in

1610
01:33:57,040 --> 01:33:58,799
Speaker 19: the United States? And then what states?

1611
01:33:59,600 --> 01:33:59,720
Speaker 4: Uh?

1612
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:03,160
Speaker 19: Did that class action or that action take place? What

1613
01:34:03,439 --> 01:34:07,160
Speaker 19: was the court's redress for it? And I wish you

1614
01:34:07,240 --> 01:34:10,320
Speaker 19: the best of luck and could you answer just those

1615
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:12,639
Speaker 19: questions for you? How what was the awards, if any

1616
01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:15,479
Speaker 19: were given, and if it was any cases similar to

1617
01:34:15,560 --> 01:34:17,880
Speaker 19: this but not like it, whether it be in Bob

1618
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:21,479
Speaker 19: humans or animals or whatever. And I'll take your response

1619
01:34:21,560 --> 01:34:21,880
Speaker 19: off there.

1620
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:23,240
Speaker 12: I'll hold on if you want them to.

1621
01:34:24,120 --> 01:34:26,040
Speaker 3: All right, Thanks Mike, we run late, but but thank

1622
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:28,320
Speaker 3: you for your question, counselor your response.

1623
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:33,479
Speaker 12: Well, there have been some previous cases. I think one

1624
01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:37,800
Speaker 12: of the biggest cases of this occurring was in New

1625
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:42,800
Speaker 12: York City in Wall Street where they found a lot

1626
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:49,720
Speaker 12: of human remains there. And actually the person who directed

1627
01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:56,680
Speaker 12: that project, the archaeological portion of it, is one of

1628
01:34:56,760 --> 01:35:03,520
Speaker 12: our expert witnesses. And yeah, there's been all kinds of redress,

1629
01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:07,320
Speaker 12: uh that that that's been done there. There's even a

1630
01:35:07,479 --> 01:35:13,680
Speaker 12: case in Maryland involving a cemetery, and a lot of

1631
01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:21,439
Speaker 12: times it's crafted around equitable relief, even in the lots

1632
01:35:21,560 --> 01:35:24,080
Speaker 12: next door to where we're doing it.

1633
01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:25,120
Speaker 11: B A. C. C.

1634
01:35:25,400 --> 01:35:29,360
Speaker 12: Has won, you know, a Supreme Court case that has

1635
01:35:29,560 --> 01:35:36,080
Speaker 12: given us new law for cemetery desecration matters because in

1636
01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:41,000
Speaker 12: the parcel nearby where we are, uh, there are actually

1637
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:44,880
Speaker 12: two hundred human remains that are known to be there.

1638
01:35:46,439 --> 01:35:49,320
Speaker 12: And so in Maryland, this is kind of a wide

1639
01:35:49,439 --> 01:35:54,280
Speaker 12: open area of law because you know, the Supreme Court

1640
01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:58,120
Speaker 12: case in Maryland just came down maybe a year ago

1641
01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:07,800
Speaker 12: and it was intentionally left flexible and for the lower

1642
01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:11,640
Speaker 12: courts to decide. And so we're going to see kind of.

1643
01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:14,519
Speaker 13: What that means for us.

1644
01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:17,640
Speaker 3: All right, find out the top there before we let

1645
01:36:17,720 --> 01:36:21,800
Speaker 3: you guys go, Sister Marsha, can you give us a

1646
01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:23,880
Speaker 3: number with Folcus? This is expense if you got an

1647
01:36:23,880 --> 01:36:26,680
Speaker 3: attorney's got to file motions. That takes money and you

1648
01:36:26,760 --> 01:36:28,960
Speaker 3: need money to find this case. Is there a way

1649
01:36:29,040 --> 01:36:30,720
Speaker 3: that people listening to us around the country or even

1650
01:36:30,760 --> 01:36:32,200
Speaker 3: now the country can help you guys.

1651
01:36:33,400 --> 01:36:36,400
Speaker 7: Yes, definitely if they could go to our website.

1652
01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:41,000
Speaker 6: But there's the African Cemetery Coalition dot net. You'll see

1653
01:36:41,040 --> 01:36:44,479
Speaker 6: a big donate buttons there as people could go there

1654
01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:49,040
Speaker 6: and provide as much resources as you possibly could, but

1655
01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:53,679
Speaker 6: be incredibly grateful. I mean, it's in a very expensive case.

1656
01:36:54,120 --> 01:36:59,080
Speaker 6: We're also open to coming to churches, to civic organizations,

1657
01:36:59,360 --> 01:37:04,320
Speaker 6: to Girls Out boy Scout clubs, whatever organizations, whatever kinds

1658
01:37:04,360 --> 01:37:08,519
Speaker 6: of meetings that you can organize and giving lectures about this,

1659
01:37:08,840 --> 01:37:13,680
Speaker 6: talking about the community members and you know, holding fundraisers

1660
01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:17,120
Speaker 6: Ben and Jerry's I must give a shout out have

1661
01:37:17,240 --> 01:37:20,720
Speaker 6: been absolutely incredible in terms of one of our major supporters.

1662
01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:24,240
Speaker 6: But I didn't want this hour to end without thanking you,

1663
01:37:25,360 --> 01:37:29,479
Speaker 6: Carl for opening up this incredible opportunity for us to

1664
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:33,560
Speaker 6: talk about Moses Cemetery. This is the most important cemetery

1665
01:37:33,720 --> 01:37:37,640
Speaker 6: case desecration case going on in the country right now.

1666
01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:41,320
Speaker 6: I think there's probably well one of them. It's just

1667
01:37:41,479 --> 01:37:45,640
Speaker 6: incredibly important because these were crimes against humanity, and so

1668
01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:48,240
Speaker 6: we want everyone to understand that this is not just

1669
01:37:48,320 --> 01:37:52,799
Speaker 6: simply about knocking over, you know, a tombstone. People were murdered,

1670
01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:57,160
Speaker 6: people were kidnapped, and there has to be accountability for that,

1671
01:37:57,800 --> 01:38:00,240
Speaker 6: and if there isn't accountability, it will just containing you

1672
01:38:00,320 --> 01:38:03,200
Speaker 6: to happen. So thank you so much, and I wanted

1673
01:38:03,280 --> 01:38:07,680
Speaker 6: again to thank our really brilliant attorney Ari Teresa for

1674
01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:11,080
Speaker 6: all of his work and for the entire community. I

1675
01:38:11,200 --> 01:38:13,000
Speaker 6: know we don't see you all the time, but we

1676
01:38:13,439 --> 01:38:15,840
Speaker 6: know that you're out there and that you're supporting us,

1677
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:18,360
Speaker 6: and that you're praying for us, and that you know

1678
01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:21,160
Speaker 6: you're holding us next to your heart. And we're asking

1679
01:38:21,240 --> 01:38:25,320
Speaker 6: people to please go to our website again and Bethesda

1680
01:38:25,479 --> 01:38:30,439
Speaker 6: African Cemetery Coalition dot not dot net and provide whatever

1681
01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:34,479
Speaker 6: donation you possibly can spare, and and we thank the

1682
01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:37,200
Speaker 6: community for all of its support over the years.

1683
01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:39,840
Speaker 3: All right now, we thank you guys, and don't give

1684
01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:42,799
Speaker 3: up the fight, brothers, and thank you also for assembling

1685
01:38:43,160 --> 01:38:44,120
Speaker 3: the panel this morning.

1686
01:38:45,160 --> 01:38:48,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you, Carl. Always really appreciate you and appreciate

1687
01:38:48,680 --> 01:38:50,960
Speaker 5: Marsh and the work they're doing forward March.

1688
01:38:52,320 --> 01:38:55,360
Speaker 6: All right, before we hang up, just thank you and

1689
01:38:55,479 --> 01:38:58,160
Speaker 6: I A because we're also members of you and I A,

1690
01:38:58,360 --> 01:39:01,160
Speaker 6: and so we thank our brothers and sisters and you

1691
01:39:01,240 --> 01:39:03,479
Speaker 6: and I A for all the support over the years.

1692
01:39:03,640 --> 01:39:07,439
Speaker 6: We are one and we are you know, we believe

1693
01:39:07,560 --> 01:39:10,839
Speaker 6: that Africa will come together and maybe it's the children

1694
01:39:10,920 --> 01:39:14,639
Speaker 6: of Africa that will bring both signs of the Atlantic together.

1695
01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:17,439
Speaker 6: But we're praying and we're hoping, and we're asking for

1696
01:39:17,560 --> 01:39:20,200
Speaker 6: everyone to support us. And by the way, Carl, we

1697
01:39:20,320 --> 01:39:23,200
Speaker 6: are winning. We are winning, and we're going to win

1698
01:39:23,880 --> 01:39:26,240
Speaker 6: this struggle. There is no doubt in any of our

1699
01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:29,640
Speaker 6: minds that there will be victory at the end of

1700
01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:30,280
Speaker 6: this struggle.

1701
01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:33,880
Speaker 3: Ah Shay to that ad after Tavie, thank you guys,

1702
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:35,880
Speaker 3: thank you for sharing your thoughts with us this morning.

1703
01:39:36,360 --> 01:39:38,800
Speaker 3: All right, family, aight after taffee, I now we switch

1704
01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:40,880
Speaker 3: over to one of our colleagues here at Urban One,

1705
01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:46,520
Speaker 3: Sister Kennett Newman and connect grand Rising. Welcome to the program, Grand.

1706
01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:48,840
Speaker 9: Rising, to you, Carl. Thank you so much for having me,

1707
01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:51,360
Speaker 9: and think miss Hughes for making this happen. I'm just

1708
01:39:51,560 --> 01:39:52,839
Speaker 9: excited to have this conversation.

1709
01:39:53,720 --> 01:39:55,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm excited too because this is a great

1710
01:39:56,200 --> 01:39:58,880
Speaker 3: Just tell the family what you're doing, please, all right.

1711
01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:04,080
Speaker 9: So I I am in a competition slash donation fundraiser

1712
01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:09,760
Speaker 9: for cancer research for children. So in this competition, I

1713
01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:14,840
Speaker 9: will be the first black woman on this magazine should

1714
01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:17,040
Speaker 9: I win this competition. And that's where I need help.

1715
01:40:17,479 --> 01:40:20,840
Speaker 9: So in this competition, there are over thirty thousand women

1716
01:40:20,920 --> 01:40:23,439
Speaker 9: who were competing. We are down to the top eight

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01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:25,400
Speaker 9: and I am a member. I am one of those

1718
01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:29,679
Speaker 9: eight people in this final group, and I need support.

1719
01:40:29,840 --> 01:40:31,920
Speaker 9: I need supporters. Let me give you a little bit

1720
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:35,599
Speaker 9: of background. So I have been on a health journey

1721
01:40:35,640 --> 01:40:38,559
Speaker 9: for a very long time. I've lost sixty five pounds

1722
01:40:38,600 --> 01:40:42,439
Speaker 9: and I've kept it off over the years. I watched

1723
01:40:42,520 --> 01:40:46,320
Speaker 9: my mom go through breast cancer three times. And when

1724
01:40:46,320 --> 01:40:49,040
Speaker 9: I was sitting with her while she was having chemotherapy,

1725
01:40:49,520 --> 01:40:52,040
Speaker 9: I read a book called Walkie and Divine Health. And

1726
01:40:52,120 --> 01:40:53,720
Speaker 9: when I read that book, I knew it was time

1727
01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:56,679
Speaker 9: to change my life and watching her and so that's

1728
01:40:56,720 --> 01:41:00,640
Speaker 9: the journey I've been on for over twenty years now.

1729
01:41:01,120 --> 01:41:04,519
Speaker 9: So I am in this competition. I'm here to win it,

1730
01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:07,519
Speaker 9: and I just want everyone to know I need the support.

1731
01:41:07,680 --> 01:41:11,160
Speaker 9: I need their votes. We have four more days left.

1732
01:41:11,600 --> 01:41:15,479
Speaker 9: April second will determine the winner of this competition, and

1733
01:41:15,680 --> 01:41:18,200
Speaker 9: I plan to be that one with the support.

1734
01:41:17,920 --> 01:41:18,439
Speaker 17: Of my family.

1735
01:41:19,120 --> 01:41:22,000
Speaker 3: All Right, we're going to give you that support. And Kennet,

1736
01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:24,960
Speaker 3: you know, family just joined us. Cannett Is she works

1737
01:41:24,960 --> 01:41:27,000
Speaker 3: at TV one. You know, she's a big cheese a

1738
01:41:27,080 --> 01:41:29,479
Speaker 3: TV one. She's vice president of production. She's really the

1739
01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:32,200
Speaker 3: engine that makes TV wan work. And we're going to

1740
01:41:32,240 --> 01:41:34,320
Speaker 3: help her up. Because you told me you lost sixty

1741
01:41:34,400 --> 01:41:34,920
Speaker 3: five pounds.

1742
01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:36,240
Speaker 13: What was that like?

1743
01:41:36,439 --> 01:41:39,679
Speaker 3: Because you're a different person, you shadow all those pounds

1744
01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:41,880
Speaker 3: and you have do you have a different time keeping

1745
01:41:41,960 --> 01:41:42,280
Speaker 3: it off?

1746
01:41:43,680 --> 01:41:43,880
Speaker 5: You know?

1747
01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:48,439
Speaker 9: It is once you change your mindset about food, then

1748
01:41:48,520 --> 01:41:51,479
Speaker 9: you learn that you're so much healthier when you eat

1749
01:41:51,560 --> 01:41:54,719
Speaker 9: the right things. You know, we grow up in church,

1750
01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:57,360
Speaker 9: we grow up at our family reunions, and we eat

1751
01:41:57,439 --> 01:41:58,760
Speaker 9: all of the fried.

1752
01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:00,640
Speaker 4: Foods and all of the all the.

1753
01:42:00,880 --> 01:42:03,240
Speaker 9: Sauces and stuff on foods. But at some point we

1754
01:42:03,360 --> 01:42:06,439
Speaker 9: really have to realize that that stuff isn't helping our bodies.

1755
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:10,719
Speaker 9: So once I realized that I could not eat those

1756
01:42:10,800 --> 01:42:13,240
Speaker 9: type foods and live a healthy lifestyle, I had to

1757
01:42:13,280 --> 01:42:15,800
Speaker 9: make a change. And once I made that change and

1758
01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:19,639
Speaker 9: started eating healthier foods, I eat, you know, raw vegetables,

1759
01:42:19,720 --> 01:42:22,000
Speaker 9: I eat cooked vegetables. I eat lean meats, I eat

1760
01:42:22,040 --> 01:42:25,160
Speaker 9: fatty meats. But it's all about the things, the combination

1761
01:42:25,280 --> 01:42:27,760
Speaker 9: of the foods you put together. And I just don't

1762
01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:30,120
Speaker 9: eat a lot of sweets. I don't eat a lot

1763
01:42:30,160 --> 01:42:33,320
Speaker 9: of carbs. I eat things that nourish my body, fuel

1764
01:42:33,400 --> 01:42:37,120
Speaker 9: my body. And to this day, I'm just so grateful

1765
01:42:37,240 --> 01:42:39,600
Speaker 9: that I've been able to maintain this weight loss and

1766
01:42:39,760 --> 01:42:43,320
Speaker 9: help so many other people understand the importance of living

1767
01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 9: a healthier life. The things you can do, being active

1768
01:42:46,040 --> 01:42:49,280
Speaker 9: with your family and your friends, it just it self

1769
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:51,400
Speaker 9: helps you so much. I don't have knee pains, I

1770
01:42:51,439 --> 01:42:54,360
Speaker 9: don't have joint pains. Because I don't have inflammation in

1771
01:42:54,439 --> 01:42:57,559
Speaker 9: my body. So I had to learn that in order

1772
01:42:57,680 --> 01:43:00,640
Speaker 9: to live a health lifestyle. That's that's important to me.

1773
01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:02,320
Speaker 9: And to encourage each other other people.

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01:43:02,840 --> 01:43:04,719
Speaker 3: All right, twelve at the top of our family, Kennet

1775
01:43:04,880 --> 01:43:06,720
Speaker 3: is our guess, Kenneth Gan New and she works for

1776
01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:09,000
Speaker 3: us here at Urban one, and she's on this journey

1777
01:43:09,040 --> 01:43:12,880
Speaker 3: to win this competition. She's lost sixty five pounds. I

1778
01:43:13,000 --> 01:43:15,720
Speaker 3: see you before and after picture. You look at a

1779
01:43:15,800 --> 01:43:18,400
Speaker 3: totally different person. Totally different person.

1780
01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:19,080
Speaker 13: Now.

1781
01:43:19,200 --> 01:43:21,400
Speaker 3: I posted this on my Facebook site, so you can

1782
01:43:21,479 --> 01:43:23,760
Speaker 3: vote for her. Just go to you know, Carl Elso

1783
01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:25,960
Speaker 3: Calin Nelson Show. They are both on there. You can

1784
01:43:26,080 --> 01:43:29,640
Speaker 3: vote for Kennett. But Kennett give us the tooth now,

1785
01:43:29,680 --> 01:43:31,800
Speaker 3: don't sometimes you want to eat some chicken or some

1786
01:43:32,400 --> 01:43:35,919
Speaker 3: you know that cake or something's calling your name. Don't

1787
01:43:35,920 --> 01:43:37,880
Speaker 3: you get that urge? And every now and then.

1788
01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:44,880
Speaker 9: I only get that urge when I've started eating to

1789
01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:47,960
Speaker 9: get it back out of my system. So in eating

1790
01:43:48,080 --> 01:43:50,200
Speaker 9: the food that I eat, when I want a piece

1791
01:43:50,240 --> 01:43:52,640
Speaker 9: of cake, I may make it myself. I'll make it

1792
01:43:52,720 --> 01:43:56,120
Speaker 9: with almond flour, I'll make it with sugar substitutes or

1793
01:43:56,360 --> 01:44:01,479
Speaker 9: natural sweetenurse. In terms of chicken or fried chicken. Hey,

1794
01:44:01,560 --> 01:44:04,400
Speaker 9: the air fryer does all that for us. Now, It's

1795
01:44:04,680 --> 01:44:07,160
Speaker 9: just like fried chicken without the grease if you just

1796
01:44:07,240 --> 01:44:09,160
Speaker 9: put in the air fryer. So, and I love some

1797
01:44:09,280 --> 01:44:12,000
Speaker 9: big gripe food, so I don't need that stuff anymore.

1798
01:44:12,360 --> 01:44:16,320
Speaker 9: I really don't. I tell you, I can really sit

1799
01:44:16,400 --> 01:44:18,800
Speaker 9: in a room with people who are eating the fish

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01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:21,080
Speaker 9: fry kind of thing and I can just avoid it

1801
01:44:21,160 --> 01:44:22,600
Speaker 9: because I know what it does to my body and

1802
01:44:22,680 --> 01:44:25,640
Speaker 9: it doesn't help me to be the productive person I

1803
01:44:25,720 --> 01:44:26,639
Speaker 9: need to be during the day.

1804
01:44:27,560 --> 01:44:29,840
Speaker 3: Do you have a cheat food that you you know,

1805
01:44:30,600 --> 01:44:34,000
Speaker 3: some chocolate chante I'm gonna have today, you know, then

1806
01:44:34,920 --> 01:44:36,920
Speaker 3: I'll try to get rid of or work it off later.

1807
01:44:37,479 --> 01:44:38,760
Speaker 3: Is that of it come in to your mind?

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01:44:38,800 --> 01:44:40,760
Speaker 9: So you know what, If it was that easy to

1809
01:44:40,920 --> 01:44:43,760
Speaker 9: work it off later, I promise you I would eat

1810
01:44:43,800 --> 01:44:44,519
Speaker 9: it all the time.

1811
01:44:44,960 --> 01:44:46,599
Speaker 10: But it's just not that simple.

1812
01:44:46,640 --> 01:44:49,600
Speaker 9: So what I'll do is I have a creamy and

1813
01:44:50,080 --> 01:44:54,120
Speaker 9: I will take protein powder and almond milk and I'll

1814
01:44:54,240 --> 01:44:57,240
Speaker 9: make I'll make a shake and I'll freeze it and

1815
01:44:57,320 --> 01:44:59,120
Speaker 9: then I put it in my creamy and it turns

1816
01:44:59,160 --> 01:45:02,120
Speaker 9: it into ice cream. So I still feel like I'm

1817
01:45:02,200 --> 01:45:06,120
Speaker 9: having ice cream phoning ice cream. It's just protein versus

1818
01:45:06,880 --> 01:45:09,800
Speaker 9: the sugar that's really an ice cream. So there are

1819
01:45:09,880 --> 01:45:12,599
Speaker 9: ways around. I do substitutes for a lot of things

1820
01:45:13,520 --> 01:45:15,439
Speaker 9: to make sure I'm still doing air quotes over here,

1821
01:45:15,520 --> 01:45:17,880
Speaker 9: make sure I'm still having a little something that I

1822
01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:22,000
Speaker 9: can enjoy. But seriously, health is just so important to me.

1823
01:45:22,080 --> 01:45:23,640
Speaker 9: I've watched so many people.

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01:45:25,360 --> 01:45:25,920
Speaker 20: Just pass on.

1825
01:45:26,040 --> 01:45:28,160
Speaker 9: I've watched so many ailments. I've seen so many people

1826
01:45:28,160 --> 01:45:30,880
Speaker 9: in the hospital, and I just want to encourage people

1827
01:45:30,880 --> 01:45:34,639
Speaker 9: as much as possible to take their life in their

1828
01:45:34,680 --> 01:45:37,280
Speaker 9: own hands and put it first and make sure that

1829
01:45:37,320 --> 01:45:38,160
Speaker 9: they're doing the things they.

1830
01:45:38,120 --> 01:45:39,080
Speaker 11: Need to do to be healthy.

1831
01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:41,880
Speaker 3: Right, And you're doing a good job, Kenned. I got

1832
01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:44,519
Speaker 3: to say that because you look great and this takes

1833
01:45:44,560 --> 01:45:46,479
Speaker 3: a lot of discipline. But let's go back to the

1834
01:45:46,600 --> 01:45:48,639
Speaker 3: voting before we let you go. How can people vote

1835
01:45:48,720 --> 01:45:50,840
Speaker 3: and tell family again what they're voting for.

1836
01:45:51,640 --> 01:45:51,840
Speaker 11: Yes?

1837
01:45:52,040 --> 01:45:57,160
Speaker 9: So okay, So this competition is muscle Fitness her. It

1838
01:45:57,360 --> 01:46:00,759
Speaker 9: is a magazine competition. It's been in existence for eight years.

1839
01:46:01,320 --> 01:46:03,840
Speaker 9: In the eight years it's been in existence, there has

1840
01:46:04,080 --> 01:46:07,719
Speaker 9: never ever been a woman of color an African American

1841
01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:11,960
Speaker 9: woman on that magazine cover. And I think this is

1842
01:46:12,080 --> 01:46:14,160
Speaker 9: our year to make a change. I can only make

1843
01:46:14,240 --> 01:46:17,400
Speaker 9: that change with the help and the support of our people.

1844
01:46:17,840 --> 01:46:20,240
Speaker 9: I need people to vote. Like you said, It's on

1845
01:46:20,360 --> 01:46:22,920
Speaker 9: your web page, on your Facebook page. It's also on

1846
01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:27,240
Speaker 9: my Facebook page, ken Yet Newman on Facebook ki n

1847
01:46:27,520 --> 01:46:31,400
Speaker 9: y Ette Newman, nyw Man. You can find it on

1848
01:46:31,479 --> 01:46:35,080
Speaker 9: my Facebook page. Just go there, simply hit the work vote.

1849
01:46:35,479 --> 01:46:38,519
Speaker 9: Make sure you verify it through Facebook. Some people just

1850
01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:40,680
Speaker 9: hit the work vote and think that they're done. You

1851
01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:43,880
Speaker 9: actually have to put your password on Facebook or your

1852
01:46:43,920 --> 01:46:46,519
Speaker 9: password in Facebook in order for that vote to count.

1853
01:46:46,920 --> 01:46:50,760
Speaker 9: If you don't have Facebook, you can still help. You

1854
01:46:50,880 --> 01:46:55,560
Speaker 9: can donate. If you donate, those donations become vote for me,

1855
01:46:55,800 --> 01:46:58,880
Speaker 9: and that money goes to cancer research for children. So

1856
01:46:59,040 --> 01:47:01,760
Speaker 9: there are ways that everyone can participate in this.

1857
01:47:02,720 --> 01:47:03,960
Speaker 2: I think that's a great call.

1858
01:47:04,040 --> 01:47:08,280
Speaker 1: As Keny Kevin Langford here and I'm just taking a

1859
01:47:08,320 --> 01:47:13,599
Speaker 1: glance at the magazine and will you be sharing particular

1860
01:47:13,760 --> 01:47:18,639
Speaker 1: types of workouts, will you be featuring the supplements you use,

1861
01:47:18,920 --> 01:47:21,599
Speaker 1: or just how does that work so that we can make.

1862
01:47:21,520 --> 01:47:22,519
Speaker 2: Sure you get on the cover.

1863
01:47:23,800 --> 01:47:25,720
Speaker 9: I will be featured on the cover, and there will

1864
01:47:25,720 --> 01:47:28,880
Speaker 9: be a cover story. So in that story, I will

1865
01:47:28,960 --> 01:47:32,519
Speaker 9: be giving you my background on fitness, how you know

1866
01:47:32,640 --> 01:47:34,720
Speaker 9: how I got into it, how I lost the weight,

1867
01:47:35,240 --> 01:47:37,920
Speaker 9: and tips on what people can do to change their life.

1868
01:47:38,320 --> 01:47:41,400
Speaker 9: So yes, absolutely all of that will be there once

1869
01:47:41,600 --> 01:47:43,440
Speaker 9: I get on the cover of that magazine.

1870
01:47:43,880 --> 01:47:44,800
Speaker 6: We have to do this.

1871
01:47:45,200 --> 01:47:47,720
Speaker 9: This is our time, this is our year, and it's

1872
01:47:47,800 --> 01:47:51,640
Speaker 9: just principal. Guys. There's no reason for eight years that

1873
01:47:51,800 --> 01:47:54,960
Speaker 9: there hasn't been a woman of color in that magazine.

1874
01:47:55,040 --> 01:47:58,200
Speaker 9: And the reason I believe is because this competition has

1875
01:47:58,240 --> 01:48:01,639
Speaker 9: been going on since January twenty sixth. It's ending April second.

1876
01:48:02,040 --> 01:48:04,320
Speaker 9: It's a long time. It's a long time for people

1877
01:48:04,360 --> 01:48:06,400
Speaker 9: to have to vote, and people get a little bit tired.

1878
01:48:07,000 --> 01:48:08,840
Speaker 9: But if you can just hang in there with us

1879
01:48:09,280 --> 01:48:13,280
Speaker 9: for the next four days and bring this thing home

1880
01:48:13,479 --> 01:48:16,040
Speaker 9: and put the first black woman on the cover of

1881
01:48:16,080 --> 01:48:19,840
Speaker 9: this magazine, it would mean so much to us and

1882
01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:21,360
Speaker 9: to me, so thank you.

1883
01:48:21,960 --> 01:48:23,120
Speaker 3: Well, who's your photographer?

1884
01:48:23,680 --> 01:48:27,879
Speaker 1: Do you have a particular photographer that's giving the shots

1885
01:48:27,960 --> 01:48:31,040
Speaker 1: that will be in the magazine or that's up to the.

1886
01:48:31,120 --> 01:48:35,000
Speaker 9: Magazine, muscling the magazine that's up to Yes, they have

1887
01:48:35,080 --> 01:48:35,840
Speaker 9: a photo shoot.

1888
01:48:36,400 --> 01:48:36,599
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1889
01:48:36,680 --> 01:48:39,880
Speaker 9: So out of thirty thousand women, we are down to

1890
01:48:40,160 --> 01:48:42,640
Speaker 9: eight and right now I'm in sixth place and I

1891
01:48:42,720 --> 01:48:46,120
Speaker 9: need to get back to first place in order to win.

1892
01:48:46,920 --> 01:48:49,160
Speaker 9: I really really need to vost. I'm in sixth place.

1893
01:48:49,200 --> 01:48:52,880
Speaker 9: I've been in first place since January twenty sixth, and

1894
01:48:53,160 --> 01:48:55,000
Speaker 9: I need to get back to first place. And I

1895
01:48:55,160 --> 01:48:59,680
Speaker 9: need that with vote and contributions. And again, those contributions

1896
01:48:59,720 --> 01:49:01,400
Speaker 9: do to cancer research for children.

1897
01:49:01,840 --> 01:49:03,880
Speaker 3: So can you vote more than once?

1898
01:49:05,120 --> 01:49:08,679
Speaker 9: You can vote once every twenty four hours. Every twenty

1899
01:49:08,720 --> 01:49:09,520
Speaker 9: four hours.

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01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:12,439
Speaker 3: We gotta take a break. Thank you connect, Thank you can.

1901
01:49:12,680 --> 01:49:14,880
Speaker 3: We're going to surely support your family. Just go to

1902
01:49:14,960 --> 01:49:19,040
Speaker 3: my website, on my email, email, my Facebook, any of

1903
01:49:19,040 --> 01:49:20,720
Speaker 3: the Facebook side and you can vote. And she says

1904
01:49:20,720 --> 01:49:23,479
Speaker 3: you can vote more once. So let's get connect on

1905
01:49:23,640 --> 01:49:26,320
Speaker 3: top of this the leaderboard. At least she's the vice

1906
01:49:26,400 --> 01:49:30,439
Speaker 3: president of production over a TV sister station over there

1907
01:49:30,479 --> 01:49:32,960
Speaker 3: on TV one. So let's let's make that happen. Eighteen

1908
01:49:33,040 --> 01:49:34,599
Speaker 3: half the top of the Thank you connect and good

1909
01:49:34,680 --> 01:49:37,439
Speaker 3: luck because you need some more, all right, family, eighteen

1910
01:49:37,439 --> 01:49:38,920
Speaker 3: half the top. Now I've got a quick break. We

1911
01:49:39,040 --> 01:49:41,479
Speaker 3: come back. Brother Zaki Brudy's waiting for us take your

1912
01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:44,240
Speaker 3: calls when we speak to him next and grind Rising family,

1913
01:49:44,320 --> 01:49:46,280
Speaker 3: thanks for starting your week with Let's turn our attention

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01:49:46,439 --> 01:49:48,760
Speaker 3: now to the President General of the University of African

1915
01:49:48,800 --> 01:49:51,880
Speaker 3: People's Organizationn't that be one Zaki Burudi working out of

1916
01:49:52,320 --> 01:49:55,559
Speaker 3: Saint Louis, Brother Zaki grind Rising, Welcome back to the program.

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01:49:56,920 --> 01:50:02,880
Speaker 4: Well Grand Rising to you Mask Commune Community, Master of Communication,

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01:50:03,200 --> 01:50:04,960
Speaker 4: Brother Carl Nelson.

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01:50:05,000 --> 01:50:08,280
Speaker 3: How you doing so, I'm still learning, Brother Zaki, And

1920
01:50:08,400 --> 01:50:10,160
Speaker 3: a couple of things you want to do first, I

1921
01:50:10,240 --> 01:50:12,360
Speaker 3: know we want to reflect. We want to talk about

1922
01:50:12,439 --> 01:50:15,599
Speaker 3: the get your analysis of the conflict in Iran, also

1923
01:50:15,680 --> 01:50:18,679
Speaker 3: the situation in Cuba. Plus to reflect on the legacy

1924
01:50:18,760 --> 01:50:21,160
Speaker 3: in the life and times of Minister Akabah Muhammad. So

1925
01:50:21,200 --> 01:50:22,560
Speaker 3: I'll let you pick which one do you want to

1926
01:50:22,560 --> 01:50:22,880
Speaker 3: start with.

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01:50:24,160 --> 01:50:27,320
Speaker 4: Let me start with Brother Akabah Muhammad first and foremost.

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01:50:28,160 --> 01:50:32,280
Speaker 4: Acabama Mohammad, for those who may not be familiar with him,

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01:50:32,800 --> 01:50:37,760
Speaker 4: was the international representative for Minister Lord star Kind and

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Speaker 4: the Nation of Islam, and I was blessed to meet

1931
01:50:41,520 --> 01:50:46,320
Speaker 4: him in the late seventies nineteen seventies as a former educator.

1932
01:50:46,680 --> 01:50:51,120
Speaker 4: Upon meeting him, I was so impressed with his historical

1933
01:50:51,280 --> 01:50:56,200
Speaker 4: insight and his concern for theliftment of black people. To

1934
01:50:56,320 --> 01:50:58,840
Speaker 4: that end, I invited him a number of times to

1935
01:50:58,960 --> 01:51:03,840
Speaker 4: my classroom as a role model to address some I'm

1936
01:51:03,840 --> 01:51:09,439
Speaker 4: a former history teacher and social studies educator that he

1937
01:51:09,479 --> 01:51:13,160
Speaker 4: would come into my classroom and always stimulated my young people.

1938
01:51:13,240 --> 01:51:17,600
Speaker 4: They truly encharged its remarks. And beyond that though, we

1939
01:51:17,800 --> 01:51:24,000
Speaker 4: began to work collectively on a different community issues impacting

1940
01:51:24,080 --> 01:51:26,280
Speaker 4: our people in the Saint Louis region. Because he had

1941
01:51:26,400 --> 01:51:30,080
Speaker 4: moved to Saint Louis in the late nineteen seventies, they

1942
01:51:30,120 --> 01:51:34,640
Speaker 4: had built up moss between eight and out of my

1943
01:51:36,400 --> 01:51:41,720
Speaker 4: interactions with him, some of the highlights included my opportunity

1944
01:51:41,880 --> 01:51:45,120
Speaker 4: to travel with him as part of different delegations to

1945
01:51:45,320 --> 01:51:50,040
Speaker 4: several different African countries. In fact, the very first travel

1946
01:51:50,160 --> 01:51:54,160
Speaker 4: experience I had with him was to the country of Libya,

1947
01:51:54,720 --> 01:51:58,400
Speaker 4: and I will never forget how that happened and what

1948
01:51:58,560 --> 01:52:02,760
Speaker 4: had happened was you know, I'm was very outspoken in

1949
01:52:02,960 --> 01:52:06,840
Speaker 4: the school district one eighty nine about the various conditions

1950
01:52:06,920 --> 01:52:10,280
Speaker 4: that I thought that was really negatively impacting the students,

1951
01:52:11,040 --> 01:52:13,799
Speaker 4: and to that end, I ended up writing a public

1952
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:18,600
Speaker 4: letter uh cracking on what I call a Buutlican principle

1953
01:52:19,160 --> 01:52:22,360
Speaker 4: at that time, that allowed a lot of craziness to

1954
01:52:22,479 --> 01:52:26,000
Speaker 4: be happening at the school, and I was immediately removed

1955
01:52:26,040 --> 01:52:30,439
Speaker 4: from the classroom to that end. Having early also through

1956
01:52:30,560 --> 01:52:36,880
Speaker 4: Ogbah Atminster Fra con that I traveled to Chicago to

1957
01:52:37,000 --> 01:52:40,719
Speaker 4: talk with him and after I shared with about my situation.

1958
01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:46,240
Speaker 4: After sharing that, he asked me was I mad enough

1959
01:52:46,720 --> 01:52:49,639
Speaker 4: or black enough to go to Liby? At that time,

1960
01:52:49,840 --> 01:52:53,519
Speaker 4: you know, Condoctor was under supreme attack and pressires by

1961
01:52:53,600 --> 01:52:56,360
Speaker 4: the United States government and they hit in the government

1962
01:52:57,200 --> 01:53:00,960
Speaker 4: European allies, and of course I responded to I have

1963
01:53:01,120 --> 01:53:04,080
Speaker 4: time to call the wife so that she'd know that

1964
01:53:04,200 --> 01:53:07,880
Speaker 4: I'm heading on out to Libya from that point, but

1965
01:53:08,240 --> 01:53:11,800
Speaker 4: in that travel to Libya, that first time that I

1966
01:53:12,120 --> 01:53:16,040
Speaker 4: got the opportunity to meet more and more Kadopi, and

1967
01:53:16,200 --> 01:53:20,559
Speaker 4: subsequently there were a number of other trips that went

1968
01:53:20,640 --> 01:53:25,599
Speaker 4: to Libya through Agba, whereby we created what was called

1969
01:53:26,200 --> 01:53:31,760
Speaker 4: the worldwide African Anti Zionist movement, which of course incorporated

1970
01:53:31,800 --> 01:53:36,840
Speaker 4: people like Kwame Terrae also known as Stokely Carmichael, he

1971
01:53:37,040 --> 01:53:41,759
Speaker 4: Mary over Daly who was former President of the Republic

1972
01:53:41,880 --> 01:53:47,920
Speaker 4: of New Africa, Choqua La Momba, New African People's Organization,

1973
01:53:48,800 --> 01:53:53,760
Speaker 4: a brother out of the Dominique Dominika Island, Rosie Douglass

1974
01:53:53,920 --> 01:53:57,120
Speaker 4: and many other activists, and we would go back and

1975
01:53:57,200 --> 01:54:00,880
Speaker 4: forth to Libya. But also stands was in my mind

1976
01:54:01,439 --> 01:54:07,000
Speaker 4: with Agba on the international aspect that in nineteen eighty

1977
01:54:07,080 --> 01:54:11,479
Speaker 4: six round the regn they bombed the Cadopi's home in

1978
01:54:11,560 --> 01:54:15,200
Speaker 4: the effort to try to kill him, and the following year,

1979
01:54:16,080 --> 01:54:18,639
Speaker 4: on the same date as the bombing, they were having

1980
01:54:18,960 --> 01:54:25,280
Speaker 4: ceremonies commemorating the Libyan's resistance to the assassination attempt onned Cadopi.

1981
01:54:26,040 --> 01:54:28,760
Speaker 4: But at the same time around the Reagan issued in

1982
01:54:28,880 --> 01:54:32,640
Speaker 4: the executive order not to travel to Libya, and I

1983
01:54:32,760 --> 01:54:36,880
Speaker 4: was part of that delegation that went anyway, which by

1984
01:54:36,960 --> 01:54:39,720
Speaker 4: the way, we were housed by the FBI and custom

1985
01:54:39,800 --> 01:54:45,160
Speaker 4: agents going and coming back along with other travelers with Agba,

1986
01:54:45,280 --> 01:54:50,959
Speaker 4: included going to zimbob Waight under the leadership of Robin Macgavey,

1987
01:54:51,040 --> 01:54:53,720
Speaker 4: there was an effort to reclaim the lands that had

1988
01:54:53,800 --> 01:54:58,960
Speaker 4: been taken by the white settlers of at that time

1989
01:54:59,040 --> 01:55:02,240
Speaker 4: it was Rhodesia, they took the lance, but they were

1990
01:55:02,320 --> 01:55:06,680
Speaker 4: reclaiming the lands back to the regional people of Zambabwe,

1991
01:55:07,400 --> 01:55:11,360
Speaker 4: and we got an opportunity to meet the President of Zimbabwe,

1992
01:55:11,880 --> 01:55:16,960
Speaker 4: Robert mcgabbi. Along with that, got an opportunity to travel

1993
01:55:17,000 --> 01:55:21,240
Speaker 4: to Sudan with AGBA when they were having a struggle

1994
01:55:21,440 --> 01:55:25,920
Speaker 4: around the Far Region as a fact finding delegation. And

1995
01:55:26,040 --> 01:55:28,360
Speaker 4: while there, got a chance to meet the President of

1996
01:55:28,480 --> 01:55:32,920
Speaker 4: the Sudan, Omar Pashir. And last but not least, he

1997
01:55:33,080 --> 01:55:35,760
Speaker 4: wasn't able to go on that trip, but he organized

1998
01:55:36,360 --> 01:55:41,000
Speaker 4: an effort ware out of the First and uprising, there

1999
01:55:41,120 --> 01:55:45,080
Speaker 4: was a delegation that went to Karbola, Iraq, which I

2000
01:55:45,240 --> 01:55:49,040
Speaker 4: was part of that delegation where we shared with the

2001
01:55:49,120 --> 01:55:53,920
Speaker 4: Iraqi people the police balance has taking place here in

2002
01:55:54,040 --> 01:55:57,720
Speaker 4: the United States. And last but not least, my last

2003
01:55:57,800 --> 01:56:02,520
Speaker 4: balltle front with AGBA was on the Front nine in Ferguson,

2004
01:56:03,200 --> 01:56:05,440
Speaker 4: And in fact I was just earlier looking at a

2005
01:56:05,560 --> 01:56:08,560
Speaker 4: picture where here and there, along with some of the

2006
01:56:08,640 --> 01:56:12,080
Speaker 4: Ferguson leadership at that time, were leading one of the

2007
01:56:12,440 --> 01:56:17,280
Speaker 4: many marches in first and protesting the murder and assassination

2008
01:56:17,440 --> 01:56:23,040
Speaker 4: of Mike Brown Jr. So and all of my travels,

2009
01:56:24,120 --> 01:56:29,440
Speaker 4: Agbay was a premier diplomat and I was just ever

2010
01:56:29,600 --> 01:56:35,840
Speaker 4: so impressed with how he handled different situations among delegations

2011
01:56:35,880 --> 01:56:39,280
Speaker 4: that may have a few problems in their travels, that

2012
01:56:39,440 --> 01:56:46,520
Speaker 4: he was just a very compassionate, deeply concerned about the

2013
01:56:46,720 --> 01:56:50,040
Speaker 4: overall upliftment of black people, not just here in this

2014
01:56:50,200 --> 01:56:57,880
Speaker 4: country but globally. So I just salute immensely the contribution

2015
01:56:58,440 --> 01:57:03,720
Speaker 4: of Agba. And in fact, they had his celebration this

2016
01:57:03,960 --> 01:57:10,240
Speaker 4: past Thursday and variety in Chicago, and no, of course,

2017
01:57:10,320 --> 01:57:14,240
Speaker 4: so we from our organization as a delegation that went

2018
01:57:14,320 --> 01:57:19,920
Speaker 4: there as she was celebrated and his care contributions and

2019
01:57:20,760 --> 01:57:23,880
Speaker 4: just to hear from his children and grandchildren who had

2020
01:57:24,040 --> 01:57:28,680
Speaker 4: such great respect for him, also added much more to

2021
01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:33,760
Speaker 4: the kind of man that he was carrying father, grandfather

2022
01:57:34,200 --> 01:57:38,640
Speaker 4: and a devout spiritual person as well as a person

2023
01:57:38,840 --> 01:57:41,960
Speaker 4: just concerned, like I said, about the upliftment of the

2024
01:57:42,040 --> 01:57:42,640
Speaker 4: black race.

2025
01:57:44,200 --> 01:57:47,120
Speaker 3: Twenty nine after top family as a brother, Zaki Brudy,

2026
01:57:47,200 --> 01:57:49,800
Speaker 3: he's the President General of the universally Afkan People's owner

2027
01:57:49,880 --> 01:57:53,320
Speaker 3: says she's speaking about brother abdul Akbah Muhammad. He's been

2028
01:57:53,400 --> 01:57:56,080
Speaker 3: a guest on here several times. Like Zaki, I go

2029
01:57:56,240 --> 01:57:59,920
Speaker 3: back to the seventies with brother Akbar in Harlem. He

2030
01:58:00,160 --> 01:58:02,440
Speaker 3: was he was close to the Minister farcaon back then

2031
01:58:02,480 --> 01:58:04,320
Speaker 3: Minister farcahone was in charge. But they call it then

2032
01:58:04,360 --> 01:58:07,320
Speaker 3: the temple Temple number seven at Harlem. And when they

2033
01:58:07,520 --> 01:58:10,520
Speaker 3: when the nation, when Elijah Muhammad died and either somebody

2034
01:58:10,520 --> 01:58:13,240
Speaker 3: you know the story, they split and and then some

2035
01:58:13,520 --> 01:58:17,400
Speaker 3: minister Farcahon came back and reclaimed that the Nation of

2036
01:58:17,480 --> 01:58:20,600
Speaker 3: Islam and change made some changes. Well, brother brother Zaki

2037
01:58:20,760 --> 01:58:22,200
Speaker 3: was with him right there and he's been with it.

2038
01:58:22,280 --> 01:58:24,800
Speaker 3: It was probably with the Minister Farcon from before that.

2039
01:58:25,160 --> 01:58:27,000
Speaker 3: For those of you who understand his role, was that

2040
01:58:27,120 --> 01:58:30,560
Speaker 3: a sort of a rolling ambassador. He was like what

2041
01:58:30,720 --> 01:58:32,880
Speaker 3: kind of like Mark Rubio is to the United States

2042
01:58:33,000 --> 01:58:34,920
Speaker 3: right now. His job was to go to all these

2043
01:58:35,000 --> 01:58:38,720
Speaker 3: different temples across the world, and the Nation of Islam

2044
01:58:38,760 --> 01:58:40,720
Speaker 3: has temples in so many countries.

2045
01:58:40,760 --> 01:58:40,960
Speaker 6: I know.

2046
01:58:41,240 --> 01:58:43,520
Speaker 3: He got the brothers in London to start listening to us,

2047
01:58:43,560 --> 01:58:45,520
Speaker 3: and they'd been listening to us ever since. A shout

2048
01:58:45,560 --> 01:58:48,240
Speaker 3: out to those brothers in London. Remember the Nation also

2049
01:58:48,480 --> 01:58:50,560
Speaker 3: were going to Gambia and told me we're going to

2050
01:58:50,600 --> 01:58:53,360
Speaker 3: Gamma and he says, well, uh, that alex Haley had

2051
01:58:53,400 --> 01:58:57,680
Speaker 3: started to build a mosque in in jerew Free and

2052
01:58:57,960 --> 01:59:02,440
Speaker 3: alex Haley died, and so Minister commissioned Brother Ockbat to

2053
01:59:02,480 --> 01:59:04,560
Speaker 3: make sure that that moscue is finished. So to him,

2054
01:59:04,560 --> 01:59:06,080
Speaker 3: we're going to that. So he says, go and look

2055
01:59:06,160 --> 01:59:09,360
Speaker 3: up for alex Haley's relatives, and we saw alex Haley's relative.

2056
01:59:09,400 --> 01:59:11,960
Speaker 3: They showed the moscue that was completed because of the

2057
01:59:12,080 --> 01:59:14,160
Speaker 3: nation of he said, because of mister Farker and on

2058
01:59:14,320 --> 01:59:17,160
Speaker 3: the leadership of Brother Aqba made sure that he was completed.

2059
01:59:17,520 --> 01:59:21,120
Speaker 3: But yeah, he again, I condulences to his family, especially

2060
01:59:21,120 --> 01:59:23,320
Speaker 3: to his daughters. He was one of these guys and

2061
01:59:23,440 --> 01:59:25,840
Speaker 3: never get you know, correct me if I'm brown, brother Zachy.

2062
01:59:25,880 --> 01:59:28,080
Speaker 3: He never see him get mad or angry. He was

2063
01:59:28,200 --> 01:59:31,760
Speaker 3: just on a level pain. He had that demeanor. Nothing

2064
01:59:31,800 --> 01:59:34,560
Speaker 3: could upset him at all, no matter what was going on,

2065
01:59:35,080 --> 01:59:38,000
Speaker 3: he was just calm and it's just cool. It's one

2066
01:59:38,000 --> 01:59:41,240
Speaker 3: of these sharp brothers too, because he, like you, he

2067
01:59:41,360 --> 01:59:42,080
Speaker 3: was an educator.

2068
01:59:44,160 --> 01:59:47,760
Speaker 4: You know, we're too, absolutely correct. I never ever saw

2069
01:59:47,880 --> 01:59:51,680
Speaker 4: him really angry or and he was always about trying

2070
01:59:51,760 --> 01:59:55,160
Speaker 4: to make sure he settled differences between different factions of

2071
01:59:55,280 --> 01:59:58,760
Speaker 4: the movement. So yeah, and like you were saying, he

2072
01:59:59,440 --> 02:00:04,200
Speaker 4: was like secretary of State that traveled across the globe,

2073
02:00:05,160 --> 02:00:11,400
Speaker 4: creating different positive relationships with different progressive leaderships in different

2074
02:00:11,480 --> 02:00:14,440
Speaker 4: countries as well as I forgot to make mentioned that

2075
02:00:14,640 --> 02:00:18,560
Speaker 4: through him, I also got opportunity to meet the current

2076
02:00:18,680 --> 02:00:23,280
Speaker 4: President of Nicoaco, Daniel or Taga. And along with that,

2077
02:00:23,560 --> 02:00:25,960
Speaker 4: when I ran for governor state of Missouri back in

2078
02:00:26,040 --> 02:00:29,160
Speaker 4: eighty four and eighty eight, it was through Acbar that

2079
02:00:29,360 --> 02:00:32,400
Speaker 4: he I'm sure I was able to influence the minister,

2080
02:00:32,440 --> 02:00:35,880
Speaker 4: even though I had met the minister myself to endorse

2081
02:00:36,000 --> 02:00:39,480
Speaker 4: my candidacy for governor state of Missouri. And in nineteen

2082
02:00:39,560 --> 02:00:44,440
Speaker 4: eighty eight, through his endorsement, I was able to shock

2083
02:00:44,800 --> 02:00:50,840
Speaker 4: many political pundits at that time with the vote total

2084
02:00:50,960 --> 02:00:53,680
Speaker 4: that I was able to get through my grats, whose

2085
02:00:53,840 --> 02:00:56,800
Speaker 4: candidacy in the state that was only ten percent black,

2086
02:00:57,440 --> 02:01:00,560
Speaker 4: I was able to generate nineteen percent of the voat

2087
02:01:00,680 --> 02:01:06,080
Speaker 4: total on purely a grass throughs campaign. So he had

2088
02:01:06,120 --> 02:01:11,640
Speaker 4: his pulse on what was happening in the community politically

2089
02:01:11,920 --> 02:01:15,480
Speaker 4: and economically. And I could see when he first came

2090
02:01:15,600 --> 02:01:18,600
Speaker 4: in here, you know, one other thing that he pushed

2091
02:01:19,120 --> 02:01:24,120
Speaker 4: consistently that I really am proud of him was that

2092
02:01:24,320 --> 02:01:27,480
Speaker 4: everybody should read, Read Read. You know, he created his

2093
02:01:27,640 --> 02:01:32,080
Speaker 4: own bookstore and as well as in New York. I

2094
02:01:32,160 --> 02:01:35,600
Speaker 4: understand that he had organized early in the late seventies eighties.

2095
02:01:35,640 --> 02:01:41,160
Speaker 4: You might remember this a massive outpoint of black people

2096
02:01:41,320 --> 02:01:44,120
Speaker 4: to the tune of fifty thousand to seventy thousand for

2097
02:01:44,440 --> 02:01:48,840
Speaker 4: some type of Black Nation they rally, So he had

2098
02:01:49,080 --> 02:01:53,280
Speaker 4: he was a very influential brother in our movement.

2099
02:01:53,960 --> 02:01:56,360
Speaker 3: So yeah, and let me just say this, with that

2100
02:01:56,480 --> 02:01:59,000
Speaker 3: particular event, you know, the SWN of the Brothers wanting

2101
02:01:59,040 --> 02:02:01,360
Speaker 3: to be in Harlem time, he said, no, we're going

2102
02:02:01,640 --> 02:02:05,360
Speaker 3: going down Midtown. They used the Manhattan Center, you know,

2103
02:02:05,680 --> 02:02:08,040
Speaker 3: across the street from Madison Square Garden. So yeah, I

2104
02:02:08,160 --> 02:02:10,640
Speaker 3: do remember that. But some of the now he's gonna,

2105
02:02:10,640 --> 02:02:12,520
Speaker 3: you know, if they figure, if you take out of Harlem,

2106
02:02:12,520 --> 02:02:14,760
Speaker 3: it's gonna lose the black flavor. But it was so

2107
02:02:15,160 --> 02:02:17,040
Speaker 3: there's so many people who wanted to come, they had

2108
02:02:17,080 --> 02:02:19,360
Speaker 3: to take it to the Manhattan Center. So that I

2109
02:02:19,440 --> 02:02:21,640
Speaker 3: remember that. I just want to share that I remember that.

2110
02:02:22,000 --> 02:02:24,600
Speaker 3: But anyway, twenty six away from the top there coffee

2111
02:02:24,640 --> 02:02:26,920
Speaker 3: is joining us Coffee right in St. Louis. She's online

2112
02:02:26,960 --> 02:02:30,200
Speaker 3: one Grand Rising Coffee with brother Zaqi.

2113
02:02:30,040 --> 02:02:32,080
Speaker 21: Breudy Grand Rising.

2114
02:02:32,240 --> 02:02:32,480
Speaker 9: Wow.

2115
02:02:32,720 --> 02:02:36,360
Speaker 21: I am just so grateful that you are covering minister

2116
02:02:36,760 --> 02:02:40,760
Speaker 21: Bar Mahammad. I had the opportunity to attend both services

2117
02:02:40,840 --> 02:02:44,520
Speaker 21: Friday and Saturday awake in Chicago, as well as the

2118
02:02:44,600 --> 02:02:49,200
Speaker 21: funeral services, and it was just they really sent him away. Well,

2119
02:02:49,880 --> 02:02:54,360
Speaker 21: normally on Muslim funeral services, they I've never seen it

2120
02:02:54,440 --> 02:02:57,200
Speaker 21: that big, and they normally don't hold the body that long,

2121
02:02:57,280 --> 02:03:02,160
Speaker 21: for my understanding, but he was gry, looked awesome as

2122
02:03:02,240 --> 02:03:05,160
Speaker 21: he led in his casket. But just the phenomenal things.

2123
02:03:05,200 --> 02:03:08,920
Speaker 21: As I Keeper Rudy said that he has done the impact,

2124
02:03:09,080 --> 02:03:12,960
Speaker 21: the powerful impact that he has put on so many people.

2125
02:03:13,320 --> 02:03:17,120
Speaker 21: And Minister farr Khan himself said that there is nothing

2126
02:03:17,680 --> 02:03:23,720
Speaker 21: successful about the Nation of Islam that Minister Agbar wasn't leading.

2127
02:03:24,440 --> 02:03:27,200
Speaker 21: He said that out of his own mouth and it's

2128
02:03:27,280 --> 02:03:29,760
Speaker 21: just phenomenal. I wish more people had the opportunity to

2129
02:03:29,840 --> 02:03:33,560
Speaker 21: meet him. I was introduced to Minister Ickbar back in

2130
02:03:34,160 --> 02:03:38,680
Speaker 21: twenty eighteen by President General as I Keeper Rudy, and

2131
02:03:39,000 --> 02:03:41,640
Speaker 21: we went to lunch and he was the first person

2132
02:03:41,760 --> 02:03:45,560
Speaker 21: to endorse my senate campaign, my United States Senate campaign

2133
02:03:45,600 --> 02:03:48,920
Speaker 21: in Missouri, and not only did he endorse it, but

2134
02:03:49,000 --> 02:03:53,560
Speaker 21: he spoke of me at many of his speakings. We

2135
02:03:54,000 --> 02:03:57,280
Speaker 21: went to several of his events at the MODS in

2136
02:03:57,360 --> 02:04:00,480
Speaker 21: Kansas City while we were campaigning there, well as of

2137
02:04:00,560 --> 02:04:05,840
Speaker 21: course my twenty eight here in Saint Louis, Missouri. Another thing,

2138
02:04:06,040 --> 02:04:08,560
Speaker 21: one other thing I'd like to add about our minister

2139
02:04:08,680 --> 02:04:13,920
Speaker 21: i Bar. It was it was just phenomenal to see

2140
02:04:14,040 --> 02:04:17,960
Speaker 21: as he said about his grandchildren and great grandchildren and children.

2141
02:04:18,000 --> 02:04:21,120
Speaker 21: Of course, we spoke highly of him and our organization,

2142
02:04:22,000 --> 02:04:26,600
Speaker 21: the Colored Troops Buffalo Soldiers Thirteenth Amendment Park is dedicating

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Speaker 21: a break to minister Akbar and so he will be

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Speaker 21: permanently a part of the Color Troops Park and at

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Speaker 21: the highest level as well as his face will be

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Speaker 21: on painting because the world will continue to remember Minster

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Speaker 21: I Bar Muhammad, and thank.

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Speaker 22: You all so much.

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Speaker 3: All right, thanks coffee. The twenty four minutes away for

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Speaker 3: the top. They have a coup on a break and

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Speaker 3: we got to take a short break. We'll come back

2152
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Speaker 3: and we're discussing if you just joined us. But brother

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Speaker 3: Zaki brewties I guess he's the President General of the

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Speaker 3: Universal of American People's Organization right now discussing the bro

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Speaker 3: achba Abdul Omahammed. He was a frequent guest on this

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Speaker 3: program and it's all shows that I've done. He's always

2157
02:05:05,040 --> 02:05:07,720
Speaker 3: been there, always cooperatives, always and he's got some books

2158
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Speaker 3: out as well. And he made his transition recently. And

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Speaker 3: of course you mentioned he was the ambassador or the

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Speaker 3: international representative for the Nation of Islam. Any of you

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02:05:16,760 --> 02:05:18,360
Speaker 3: guys don't know that the Nation of Islam is not

2162
02:05:18,480 --> 02:05:20,880
Speaker 3: just in the United States. They're all over the cabbeing Ollver,

2163
02:05:20,960 --> 02:05:23,720
Speaker 3: Central America, all over the continent as well. His job

2164
02:05:23,840 --> 02:05:25,600
Speaker 3: was to go around and make sure everything was cool.

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Speaker 3: That was his job from Minister of Farca. And anyway,

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Speaker 3: let's take the break and we come back. We got

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Speaker 3: some more folks want to speak to Zaki about brother Akbahmahammad.

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Speaker 3: You know how to reach us eight hundred four or

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Speaker 3: five zero seventy eight seven system. We'll take your phone

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Speaker 3: calls next and Grand Rising family, thanks for joining us

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Speaker 3: on this Monday morning, this last Monday of March. I

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02:05:45,200 --> 02:05:47,800
Speaker 3: guess his brother Zaki Breuti is the President general of

2173
02:05:47,800 --> 02:05:52,560
Speaker 3: the University of American People's Organization. Right now we're discussing Akbahmahammad.

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Speaker 3: Minister Abdul Abbah Muhammad is the international representative for Minister

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Speaker 3: of Farca and also for the Nation of Islam. Before

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Speaker 3: we go back to brother Zaki, the Elements to remind

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Speaker 3: you come of later this week and hear from the

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Speaker 3: master teacher. That would be ashra Quasi. Also, doctor Sabie's

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Speaker 3: son Abdullah will be with us and pan Afganist doctor

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Speaker 3: David Horne will also join us. So if you're in Baltimore,

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Speaker 3: make sure that radio is locked in tight on ten

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Speaker 3: ten WLB, or if you're in the dmvv O run

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Speaker 3: of fourteen fifteen WL. All right, Brother Zaki Bill wants

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Speaker 3: to join the conversation. He's online too. He's calling from Baltimore,

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Speaker 3: Grand Rising Bill, the Army, Brother Zaki.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Brother Zaki, I can't hear nursing. Well, would you

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02:07:02,960 --> 02:07:04,760
Speaker 2: like to take another caller? Let's do that.

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02:07:05,600 --> 02:07:05,920
Speaker 20: I didn't.

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Speaker 4: I didn't hear the comments at all. So if he

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Speaker 4: had called back in, I appreciate. But if you want to, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I can go forward with her that next caller.

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Speaker 13: You can't hear me.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, okay, yeah, I just wanted to thank Zakie for

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Speaker 23: introducing me to mister.

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02:07:25,200 --> 02:07:29,120
Speaker 18: Albab Muhammad as well as UH Minister Fary Count. I

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02:07:29,160 --> 02:07:34,360
Speaker 18: don't exactly remember when I met Minster Abob. I remember exactly.

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Speaker 11: When I met Minster Farry Count when he came.

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Speaker 5: To Saint Louis and George Zaqui.

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Speaker 23: So you know, Zak I just want to thank you

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02:07:40,680 --> 02:07:42,800
Speaker 23: man for you know, you being a great brother and

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Speaker 23: leader and introducing me as one of so many other

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Speaker 23: people to great people such as our Minister.

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02:07:48,200 --> 02:07:52,600
Speaker 18: Fay Khint and Ibab Muhammad, and I will always remember

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02:07:52,720 --> 02:07:55,280
Speaker 18: the time I met them through you, and I thank

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Speaker 18: you for the opportunity.

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Speaker 5: So I just wanted to call and say that, okay.

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Speaker 4: Bill and I appreciate you, and everybody know that Bill

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02:08:03,920 --> 02:08:06,760
Speaker 4: is a dedicated soldier for the upliftment in the spirit

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Speaker 4: of Agba our people and also going back to coffee, also,

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Speaker 4: she's a dedicated soldier and she was one of our

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Speaker 4: delegates as part of the Universe African People's Organization delegation

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Speaker 4: to the celebration of the life of Brother a Dude

2213
02:08:24,560 --> 02:08:28,200
Speaker 4: Agba Mohammad, as well as Carl I failed to mention too.

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Speaker 4: One of his key roles that he played in the

2215
02:08:33,200 --> 02:08:39,919
Speaker 4: Nation was recalled in fact Minister Farrakhan at a program

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Speaker 4: dedicated to the life of a brother Agbab before he

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02:08:43,880 --> 02:08:48,480
Speaker 4: had transitions that made the statement to the fact that

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02:08:48,760 --> 02:08:54,360
Speaker 4: Agba was the recording angel for himself as well as

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02:08:54,440 --> 02:08:59,919
Speaker 4: the Nation of Islam, because he was as a historian

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02:09:00,240 --> 02:09:03,960
Speaker 4: keeping records of all of the different kinds of activities

2221
02:09:04,040 --> 02:09:08,280
Speaker 4: and movements that the Nation of Islam was involved in.

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Speaker 4: So again speaking on his love for books and encouraging

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Speaker 4: people to know their history. So he was a complete

2224
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Speaker 4: Kimmy bean as far as his love for our people

2225
02:09:23,760 --> 02:09:24,240
Speaker 4: so true.

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Speaker 3: Fifteen away from the time they out with, Brother Saqi

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02:09:26,760 --> 02:09:29,320
Speaker 3: Brudy is the President Jail of the Universal of Afkin

2228
02:09:29,360 --> 02:09:32,240
Speaker 3: People's Organization. Let's go to line four, Brother Kaream's calling

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02:09:32,280 --> 02:09:35,080
Speaker 3: usrom Mississippi, Grand rising Brother Kareem. You're on with Brother

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Speaker 3: Shaqi Brudy.

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Speaker 20: Grand rioting Brother Carl and all the family listening audience

2232
02:09:41,880 --> 02:09:45,760
Speaker 20: as well. I definitely am honored to be a part

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Speaker 20: of this conversation, being one of the young brothers up

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02:09:49,680 --> 02:09:53,240
Speaker 20: under Minister Akbar coming in the Nation of Islam. I've

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02:09:53,280 --> 02:09:55,440
Speaker 20: been in the nation that I've been in the nation

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02:09:55,520 --> 02:09:59,280
Speaker 20: of Bislam now for over fifty three years. So coming

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02:09:59,400 --> 02:10:01,800
Speaker 20: in the nation and as a young brother, Minister dock

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02:10:01,920 --> 02:10:05,360
Speaker 20: Bar was one of the brothers in Saint Louis that

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02:10:05,560 --> 02:10:09,040
Speaker 20: I came up under, and the bringing this and the

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Speaker 20: intelligence that came with him and just astonded me as well.

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Speaker 20: I remember one instance, as a seventeen year old brother,

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02:10:18,760 --> 02:10:21,880
Speaker 20: Minis dock Bar, he would always be watching me and

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02:10:22,000 --> 02:10:25,280
Speaker 20: he said to me, he said, brother, I can tell

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Speaker 20: you a brother that love our people, and you want

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02:10:27,760 --> 02:10:30,240
Speaker 20: to work with our people, he said, but let me

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02:10:30,400 --> 02:10:33,240
Speaker 20: tell you something, brothers, he said, in order for you

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02:10:33,440 --> 02:10:36,880
Speaker 20: to still be around later on, you're gonna have to

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02:10:37,000 --> 02:10:40,160
Speaker 20: learn why our people do what we do while we

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02:10:40,240 --> 02:10:41,920
Speaker 20: all bust you in the back of your head when

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Speaker 20: you try to help us, why we would try to

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Speaker 20: reject the truth when you try to give to us.

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02:10:47,880 --> 02:10:50,120
Speaker 20: He said, you got to learn us who we are,

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02:10:50,320 --> 02:10:52,800
Speaker 20: why we do what we do, and he hand me

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02:10:52,920 --> 02:10:56,680
Speaker 20: the book Missed Education of a Negro and that started

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Speaker 20: on my journey of studying and learning us as a people.

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Speaker 13: Later on in life, he was instrumental in allowing me

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Speaker 13: to go to Synagogue, West Africa where I studied my

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02:11:09,720 --> 02:11:14,040
Speaker 13: postgraduate degree over there and Black in history, and I

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02:11:14,280 --> 02:11:18,520
Speaker 13: was able to successfully do studies in Gambia in West

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Speaker 13: Africa and show this man was just like a minister.

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02:11:23,160 --> 02:11:26,800
Speaker 13: Brother Zaqui said. The minister say he was a recording angel.

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Speaker 13: We was shit among him day and night and just

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02:11:31,600 --> 02:11:34,680
Speaker 13: listened to him as he would run off storage and

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Speaker 13: you were like, how can he remember all of this?

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Speaker 22: But he could.

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Speaker 13: He could tell you about something that happened forty years ago,

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Speaker 13: twenty years ago with Minister Farcot and others. One of

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Speaker 13: the major pieces that many of us don't know. Minister

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Speaker 13: Okba was one of the very major instrumentals of the

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Speaker 13: Million Man Marks. Shane Lewis was the center of the

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02:12:01,760 --> 02:12:05,960
Speaker 13: organizing of the Million Man March. That's where we UH

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Speaker 13: did the T shirts and all the memorabilia that came

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02:12:09,520 --> 02:12:12,480
Speaker 13: from the Million Man Mark came out of Saint Louis

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Speaker 13: and that was up under Minister Akbar, working with Mike

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Speaker 13: Roberts and others. And so this man just was just

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Speaker 13: outstanding when it come to organize and how and what

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02:12:25,000 --> 02:12:28,000
Speaker 13: it was when it comes to organize. He introduced me

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Speaker 13: to all all the black major components and players in

2279
02:12:33,680 --> 02:12:37,480
Speaker 13: the Black Struggles, the Black uh In books in Kobra,

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02:12:38,360 --> 02:12:42,440
Speaker 13: all Afgan people, Revolutionary part the Black Panthers, all of

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Speaker 13: those individuals. I was blessed to be a part of

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Speaker 13: Conrad roy Al and ob Dolly and all of them

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02:12:50,160 --> 02:12:54,560
Speaker 13: because of Minister Akbar and him making sure that we

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02:12:54,720 --> 02:12:57,840
Speaker 13: were able to be connected with these individuals. And it

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02:12:58,280 --> 02:13:01,480
Speaker 13: was Minister Akba that taught me that it was more

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Speaker 13: than just being in the Nation of miss I'm as

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02:13:03,920 --> 02:13:08,640
Speaker 13: an FOI, but we had to be national and international

2288
02:13:08,760 --> 02:13:12,440
Speaker 13: representatives as well. And so I just loved that man.

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02:13:12,560 --> 02:13:14,600
Speaker 13: And this is the last thing as I let y'all go,

2290
02:13:15,120 --> 02:13:18,840
Speaker 13: is that I'm in Mississippi. Minister Ockbah brother while here

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02:13:18,960 --> 02:13:22,680
Speaker 13: came to me about twenty one years ago and told me, brother,

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02:13:23,720 --> 02:13:27,440
Speaker 13: we need you to go to Mississippi and help organize

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02:13:27,520 --> 02:13:30,800
Speaker 13: the Mississippi If they told me, say listen, once you

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02:13:30,920 --> 02:13:33,600
Speaker 13: go to Mississippi, you just get us a place and

2295
02:13:33,720 --> 02:13:36,280
Speaker 13: we gonna come down there and we'll be that with

2296
02:13:36,520 --> 02:13:40,200
Speaker 13: you Mins doctbyern brother. While he will wind up in Atlanta,

2297
02:13:40,280 --> 02:13:43,520
Speaker 13: I still wind up in Mississippi. But I thankful that

2298
02:13:43,680 --> 02:13:50,520
Speaker 13: album here working with brother Lumumba and then before he transitioned.

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Speaker 13: But our struggles here has been a strong struggle. As

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Speaker 13: Donnamum Elijah Muhammad said about Mississippi, he said about the

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02:13:59,720 --> 02:14:01,960
Speaker 13: nation and as a whole. When they asked him, what

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02:14:02,080 --> 02:14:03,800
Speaker 13: are you going to do he live, he said, I'm

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02:14:03,840 --> 02:14:06,520
Speaker 13: going to teach Islam to my people. They said, that's

2304
02:14:06,600 --> 02:14:09,080
Speaker 13: like putting elephants pants on the elephant. He said, I

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02:14:09,160 --> 02:14:13,800
Speaker 13: got one path on already, and that's like Mississippi, Mississippi.

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02:14:13,920 --> 02:14:16,760
Speaker 13: We got one path leg on already. All we got

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02:14:16,800 --> 02:14:20,840
Speaker 13: to do is just keep organizing, organizing, organizing. Thank your brother, call,

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02:14:21,160 --> 02:14:29,200
Speaker 13: thank your brothers our thank you coffee, Carl.

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Speaker 4: I just wanted to salute brother Kareem Muhammad uh. He

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02:14:33,520 --> 02:14:37,560
Speaker 4: is also in Mississippi. He's the director of the Local

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02:14:37,720 --> 02:14:42,000
Speaker 4: Organizing Committee of the entire state of Mississippi, and we

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02:14:42,240 --> 02:14:45,640
Speaker 4: as an organization have sent several delegations down there to

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02:14:45,800 --> 02:14:49,480
Speaker 4: join some of his efforts. He's a real dedicated brother

2314
02:14:49,600 --> 02:14:53,080
Speaker 4: and I appreciate his comments. And in fact, he made

2315
02:14:53,200 --> 02:14:56,640
Speaker 4: mention in terms of brother Aby influenced him to go

2316
02:14:56,760 --> 02:15:00,879
Speaker 4: to Senagogue when he mentioned Senegal. Senegal is a special

2317
02:15:00,960 --> 02:15:03,200
Speaker 4: place in my heart because that was the very first

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02:15:03,600 --> 02:15:07,280
Speaker 4: country that I was able to visit and had some

2319
02:15:07,640 --> 02:15:14,240
Speaker 4: really spiritual experiences that turned my life around. And also

2320
02:15:15,000 --> 02:15:18,240
Speaker 4: Whaul instant of Gaul was able to go to Gambia

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02:15:18,320 --> 02:15:21,160
Speaker 4: as he made mentioned a Gambia and it was through

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02:15:21,320 --> 02:15:25,560
Speaker 4: Ogba that our organization has conducted and I get into

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02:15:25,640 --> 02:15:30,560
Speaker 4: that a little later in the program different international humanitarian

2324
02:15:30,800 --> 02:15:36,520
Speaker 4: efforts directed at Africa and the diaspora. So again, thank you,

2325
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Speaker 4: brother Kareem.

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Speaker 3: All right lying away from the top of Carol's reaching

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02:15:40,720 --> 02:15:43,280
Speaker 3: us to us. She's in Saint Louis. She's online one

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02:15:43,600 --> 02:15:46,520
Speaker 3: Carol Grund rising here on with Brother Zaki Brudi.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, brother Carl for having me. And my name

2330
02:15:52,520 --> 02:15:55,200
Speaker 7: is Carol Jackson from Saint Louis and I am a

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02:15:55,320 --> 02:16:00,120
Speaker 7: member of the Universal African Peoples Under Organization under a

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02:16:00,320 --> 02:16:05,800
Speaker 7: leadership of President General Zaki Baruti, and it's through him

2333
02:16:05,920 --> 02:16:09,760
Speaker 7: that I really got to have an interest in going

2334
02:16:09,840 --> 02:16:12,920
Speaker 7: to the homeland. And so though I did not meet

2335
02:16:13,640 --> 02:16:19,000
Speaker 7: a brother Abbi personally, I was able to meet his daughters,

2336
02:16:19,080 --> 02:16:26,160
Speaker 7: Samima and Saluta, and Samima has a travel group where

2337
02:16:26,240 --> 02:16:31,040
Speaker 7: she takes a group of people to Ghana at least

2338
02:16:31,160 --> 02:16:33,840
Speaker 7: once a year and even her daughter is involved. And

2339
02:16:33,920 --> 02:16:37,120
Speaker 7: so I had a chance to travel with them, and

2340
02:16:37,720 --> 02:16:41,440
Speaker 7: he is the brother has put minister out by put

2341
02:16:41,600 --> 02:16:47,320
Speaker 7: his footprints all over Ghana. Everywhere we went, someone knew him.

2342
02:16:47,440 --> 02:16:52,280
Speaker 7: I mean we were kind of like VIP traveling tourists there,

2343
02:16:52,680 --> 02:16:56,200
Speaker 7: you know, under Saima and Saluta. And I just want

2344
02:16:56,240 --> 02:16:59,840
Speaker 7: to say that I got to know him through his

2345
02:17:00,000 --> 02:17:03,600
Speaker 7: books and reading. But his daughters are carrying on his

2346
02:17:04,000 --> 02:17:10,160
Speaker 7: legacy in a great way. The one daughter that lived there,

2347
02:17:10,959 --> 02:17:13,960
Speaker 7: I was able to visit her school. It's an amazing

2348
02:17:15,160 --> 02:17:18,680
Speaker 7: private school that she opened up there that's still going strong.

2349
02:17:19,200 --> 02:17:21,640
Speaker 7: And I was able to go visit her grave site

2350
02:17:21,680 --> 02:17:25,840
Speaker 7: where she's buried in Ghana, and uh, you could just

2351
02:17:26,000 --> 02:17:29,800
Speaker 7: tell what a great man he was based on the

2352
02:17:30,280 --> 02:17:35,240
Speaker 7: legacy that he is leaving that's being carried on with

2353
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Speaker 7: his daughters that I had a chance to meet and

2354
02:17:38,800 --> 02:17:41,840
Speaker 7: through Sabema, she she's told me that.

2355
02:17:43,600 --> 02:17:45,920
Speaker 9: There's gonna be a memorial.

2356
02:17:46,720 --> 02:17:50,640
Speaker 7: In Sankwi was in May for brother Akbar. So I

2357
02:17:50,800 --> 02:17:51,840
Speaker 7: just wanted to add that.

2358
02:17:53,840 --> 02:17:54,240
Speaker 4: In that.

2359
02:17:54,600 --> 02:17:57,960
Speaker 7: You know, it did it did, It doesn't stop, you know,

2360
02:17:58,160 --> 02:18:01,160
Speaker 7: it's just going on and on and even more powerful

2361
02:18:01,400 --> 02:18:02,920
Speaker 7: than ever his legacy.

2362
02:18:03,800 --> 02:18:06,320
Speaker 3: All right, thanks Carol. All brother Zachi, you want to

2363
02:18:06,320 --> 02:18:07,800
Speaker 3: respond to anything, Carol said.

2364
02:18:07,959 --> 02:18:10,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, and one of salute Carroll. She's one of our

2365
02:18:10,840 --> 02:18:14,760
Speaker 4: dedicated members and supporter of the Universe African People's Organization.

2366
02:18:15,600 --> 02:18:19,600
Speaker 4: And she made me mention though, as his spirit goes

2367
02:18:19,680 --> 02:18:23,880
Speaker 4: on after his transition, I did bring it to the

2368
02:18:23,959 --> 02:18:27,800
Speaker 4: attention of Minister Donald Muhammad that he was so popular

2369
02:18:27,879 --> 02:18:30,240
Speaker 4: here in Saint Louis that we ought to do a memorial,

2370
02:18:30,720 --> 02:18:33,600
Speaker 4: which we are and our tendant today is not in May.

2371
02:18:33,680 --> 02:18:37,000
Speaker 4: It's going to be at least with the conversation I

2372
02:18:37,160 --> 02:18:40,320
Speaker 4: just had with for brother Donald fill in Chicago on

2373
02:18:40,520 --> 02:18:45,000
Speaker 4: April the eleventh at the Mosque at three pm. So

2374
02:18:45,400 --> 02:18:50,560
Speaker 4: that's how well loved that brother Minister Abdul By Mohammad

2375
02:18:50,920 --> 02:18:54,879
Speaker 4: was here in Saint Louis, Missouri, and as Kareem had

2376
02:18:54,959 --> 02:18:59,520
Speaker 4: made mentioned, out of Saint Louis was the major organizing

2377
02:18:59,720 --> 02:19:03,119
Speaker 4: point for the million Man March, and it was through

2378
02:19:03,320 --> 02:19:06,600
Speaker 4: brother Akbab with his determination to make it a says,

2379
02:19:06,600 --> 02:19:09,200
Speaker 4: along with brother Bob Law and a number of other

2380
02:19:10,240 --> 02:19:14,640
Speaker 4: you know, national coordinators, that we were able to do

2381
02:19:15,400 --> 02:19:20,000
Speaker 4: historical first. We're bringing together over some say, really two

2382
02:19:20,120 --> 02:19:26,040
Speaker 4: million black men on that day of in October fifteen,

2383
02:19:26,600 --> 02:19:31,840
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety five. So so anyway, those are something and

2384
02:19:32,160 --> 02:19:37,840
Speaker 4: his his, his achievements. We'll go on forever, so long

2385
02:19:37,920 --> 02:19:39,920
Speaker 4: lived the spirit of brother Agbama Hunter.

2386
02:19:40,640 --> 02:19:42,480
Speaker 3: All right. Four minutes away from the top of there,

2387
02:19:42,680 --> 02:19:45,520
Speaker 3: David Murphy's online too. David is from Baltimore. Course in

2388
02:19:45,520 --> 02:19:48,600
Speaker 3: the National Black Unity News. David grand Rising young with

2389
02:19:48,680 --> 02:19:49,800
Speaker 3: brother Zaquie Burudi.

2390
02:19:50,560 --> 02:19:55,800
Speaker 11: Yes, grand Rising, Yeah, brother Zakie Man, how are you, sir?

2391
02:19:56,959 --> 02:19:59,640
Speaker 4: I'm aware of Brother David Murphy. I'm even better now

2392
02:19:59,680 --> 02:20:01,240
Speaker 4: and talk to you. How you doing that?

2393
02:20:02,240 --> 02:20:04,760
Speaker 11: I'm fantastic. I just want to let you know, just

2394
02:20:04,920 --> 02:20:07,040
Speaker 11: to you know, just say cool. First of all, I

2395
02:20:07,600 --> 02:20:10,119
Speaker 11: thank your call for taking this call, but Brother's oct

2396
02:20:10,320 --> 02:20:13,200
Speaker 11: I just wanted to say openly and honestly, you know

2397
02:20:13,280 --> 02:20:15,680
Speaker 11: the appreciation I have done. I appreciate you for the

2398
02:20:15,760 --> 02:20:17,520
Speaker 11: work you have done and continue to do.

2399
02:20:18,320 --> 02:20:19,000
Speaker 4: You know, I'm a.

2400
02:20:19,040 --> 02:20:23,080
Speaker 11: Publisher as well as yourself, and you're an organizer, and

2401
02:20:23,520 --> 02:20:26,760
Speaker 11: you have come to Baltimore on many occasions. And Bill

2402
02:20:26,879 --> 02:20:29,400
Speaker 11: make sure that I'm president. I want to be president.

2403
02:20:29,640 --> 02:20:31,080
Speaker 11: But the thing is, I just want to say this

2404
02:20:31,200 --> 02:20:33,359
Speaker 11: to the world that you know, you're a true soldier

2405
02:20:34,160 --> 02:20:38,080
Speaker 11: and you have that gloody of your life to servitude

2406
02:20:38,160 --> 02:20:41,040
Speaker 11: of us, our black metal native people. And when I

2407
02:20:41,120 --> 02:20:42,720
Speaker 11: heard you on this call, Man, I said, I just

2408
02:20:42,800 --> 02:20:44,879
Speaker 11: got a call in. Just say hello to my brother

2409
02:20:45,040 --> 02:20:47,320
Speaker 11: Man and just let you know how much I appreciate you.

2410
02:20:47,800 --> 02:20:50,720
Speaker 11: Thank your call. Okay, Well look.

2411
02:20:50,640 --> 02:20:54,120
Speaker 4: Here, brother Dave, I appreciate your comments. And what I

2412
02:20:54,280 --> 02:20:58,120
Speaker 4: do is in the spirit of the Creator. So I'm saying,

2413
02:20:58,160 --> 02:21:01,000
Speaker 4: I like, wherever, how are people identify what I call

2414
02:21:01,040 --> 02:21:04,640
Speaker 4: it the Creator? Because there's a couple of phrases out

2415
02:21:04,680 --> 02:21:07,440
Speaker 4: of the Holy Koran, which I encourage people to read

2416
02:21:08,120 --> 02:21:10,920
Speaker 4: reread like IBA would, but on the spiritual note, to

2417
02:21:11,000 --> 02:21:13,280
Speaker 4: read the Holy Bible from cover to cover as well

2418
02:21:13,320 --> 02:21:17,040
Speaker 4: as the Holy Koran along with historical black books. But

2419
02:21:17,160 --> 02:21:20,720
Speaker 4: out of the if I may sit two quotes, brother

2420
02:21:20,840 --> 02:21:21,920
Speaker 4: called from the Koran.

2421
02:21:22,720 --> 02:21:25,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, hold that thought right there, Brother Zaki. We got

2422
02:21:25,160 --> 02:21:28,000
Speaker 3: to step aside and stations can identify themselves down the

2423
02:21:28,040 --> 02:21:29,879
Speaker 3: line per the FCC while we get back. I'll let

2424
02:21:29,879 --> 02:21:34,080
Speaker 3: you do that. And also Tokumo from Panasi sister's name

2425
02:21:34,120 --> 02:21:36,240
Speaker 3: correctly wants to speak with you as WELLS three minutes

2426
02:21:36,240 --> 02:21:38,040
Speaker 3: away from the top day our family. I guess his

2427
02:21:38,120 --> 02:21:44,120
Speaker 3: brother Zaki Brewdy from the Universal African People's Organization. He's

2428
02:21:44,160 --> 02:21:46,760
Speaker 3: the President General of the Universal African People's Organization. You

2429
02:21:46,800 --> 02:21:48,240
Speaker 3: want to speak to him, reach out to us at

2430
02:21:48,280 --> 02:21:51,320
Speaker 3: eight hundred and four or five zero seventy eight seventy six.

2431
02:21:51,440 --> 02:21:54,200
Speaker 3: We'll take your phone calls next and Grand Rising family,

2432
02:21:54,240 --> 02:21:56,680
Speaker 3: thanks for starting. You're weaker us. Just last Monday in

2433
02:21:57,200 --> 02:21:59,959
Speaker 3: March twenty twenty six, I guess his brother Zaki Brewer.

2434
02:22:00,440 --> 02:22:02,720
Speaker 3: Brother Zaki is the President General of the Universal of

2435
02:22:02,720 --> 02:22:06,240
Speaker 3: African People's Organization based in Saint Gloris. Around now, we've

2436
02:22:06,280 --> 02:22:10,560
Speaker 3: been talking about brother Abdullah Okbahmahammad. Brother Ocabah Muhammad was

2437
02:22:10,720 --> 02:22:15,240
Speaker 3: the Nation of Islam's Secretary of State. Basically he was

2438
02:22:15,320 --> 02:22:18,920
Speaker 3: an ambassador, the international representative four minutes to Farkhan and

2439
02:22:19,080 --> 02:22:21,039
Speaker 3: also for the nation. He'd go around and make sure

2440
02:22:21,040 --> 02:22:25,280
Speaker 3: everything in a different mosque around the world or everything's okay.

2441
02:22:25,400 --> 02:22:27,480
Speaker 3: That was his job and he did he did it

2442
02:22:27,560 --> 02:22:30,000
Speaker 3: well as well as I mentioned before we left it.

2443
02:22:30,360 --> 02:22:32,680
Speaker 3: So Miko, hope I'm now your name correctly. His sister

2444
02:22:32,920 --> 02:22:35,640
Speaker 3: calling from Baltimore, has a question for brother Zaki. She's

2445
02:22:35,680 --> 02:22:43,840
Speaker 3: online three grand rising sister, Yes.

2446
02:22:48,920 --> 02:22:52,160
Speaker 14: Rich raising Baba Zaki is his Tomako agent People in

2447
02:22:52,240 --> 02:22:55,000
Speaker 14: Prisonman Rights Campaign. I had a two part question for you.

2448
02:22:56,200 --> 02:22:58,800
Speaker 14: Thank you again for telling us about brother Atbar. I

2449
02:22:58,840 --> 02:23:00,640
Speaker 14: didn't really know about it, so thank you for that.

2450
02:23:01,200 --> 02:23:04,240
Speaker 14: I wanted to connect it to the recent visit of

2451
02:23:04,440 --> 02:23:10,200
Speaker 14: Ghanan President John Jemini Mohammad to the UN and also

2452
02:23:10,320 --> 02:23:13,160
Speaker 14: your role as an educator. And you mentioned brother Akball

2453
02:23:13,320 --> 02:23:16,760
Speaker 14: was also historian our organizations preparing to go to the

2454
02:23:16,840 --> 02:23:19,160
Speaker 14: U in Geneva, Switzerland in a couple of weeks to

2455
02:23:19,480 --> 02:23:23,840
Speaker 14: the permanent form of African descent. But Ghanan President Muhammed

2456
02:23:23,959 --> 02:23:27,960
Speaker 14: he spoke about he presented the resolution, but in his

2457
02:23:28,160 --> 02:23:31,960
Speaker 14: remarks he talked about this erasure this war in our

2458
02:23:32,080 --> 02:23:35,400
Speaker 14: memory of black history and the classrooms. And you're an educator.

2459
02:23:35,840 --> 02:23:38,240
Speaker 14: I wanted to get your thoughts as far as the

2460
02:23:38,320 --> 02:23:42,360
Speaker 14: significance of that to us as people across the diasper.

2461
02:23:42,720 --> 02:23:44,480
Speaker 14: But also I thought it was interesting as you were

2462
02:23:44,520 --> 02:23:47,680
Speaker 14: describing Acball by the Acbar and his travels and how

2463
02:23:48,200 --> 02:23:51,959
Speaker 14: the nand President Mohammad came to the colonizer of laying

2464
02:23:52,000 --> 02:23:55,640
Speaker 14: in the sense right this traveling of us across the ASP.

2465
02:23:55,800 --> 02:23:56,760
Speaker 15: Very Pan African.

2466
02:23:57,160 --> 02:23:59,800
Speaker 14: Can you also speak to the significance of that moment

2467
02:23:59,840 --> 02:24:03,440
Speaker 14: of time of connecting us through our work but also

2468
02:24:03,600 --> 02:24:06,040
Speaker 14: through this war on this memory that has been declared

2469
02:24:06,400 --> 02:24:08,880
Speaker 14: on us. Keep of asking in descent. Thank you so much,

2470
02:24:08,959 --> 02:24:09,840
Speaker 14: Bob that kid.

2471
02:24:10,840 --> 02:24:13,200
Speaker 4: All right, thank you ever so much. If I understand

2472
02:24:13,240 --> 02:24:16,480
Speaker 4: your question. I know there was a resolution I do

2473
02:24:16,720 --> 02:24:26,240
Speaker 4: believe introduced by the Canadian President Mohammed that was to

2474
02:24:27,120 --> 02:24:30,920
Speaker 4: say that the greatest slavery was in the assidence. I'm

2475
02:24:30,959 --> 02:24:37,560
Speaker 4: not repeating it exactly, was a crime against humanity. And

2476
02:24:38,360 --> 02:24:41,400
Speaker 4: for folks to know that only two countries out of

2477
02:24:41,520 --> 02:24:46,160
Speaker 4: you in voted against that resolution, one in the United.

2478
02:24:45,920 --> 02:24:51,199
Speaker 14: States, United States, Israel, Argentina.

2479
02:24:51,920 --> 02:24:58,240
Speaker 4: Argentina absolutely, and that speaks again to how this government

2480
02:24:58,440 --> 02:25:03,359
Speaker 4: view our people in terms of it was this government,

2481
02:25:03,840 --> 02:25:06,960
Speaker 4: sanctioned by this government and the founding of this government

2482
02:25:08,040 --> 02:25:13,320
Speaker 4: that allowed slavery to exist, and as an extension of slavery,

2483
02:25:14,640 --> 02:25:18,400
Speaker 4: how we would mistreated during the gym Co era leading

2484
02:25:18,440 --> 02:25:22,240
Speaker 4: all the way up into the civil rights movement here

2485
02:25:22,320 --> 02:25:25,480
Speaker 4: in this country. So it also goes back to the

2486
02:25:25,680 --> 02:25:30,359
Speaker 4: lack of our true history being taught in the public schools,

2487
02:25:30,400 --> 02:25:32,440
Speaker 4: and that was one of the reasons that I personally

2488
02:25:32,560 --> 02:25:35,440
Speaker 4: came un of attacked as a public school teacher, which

2489
02:25:35,640 --> 02:25:38,320
Speaker 4: was one of the reasons as a teacher, I would

2490
02:25:38,360 --> 02:25:43,320
Speaker 4: bring in different historians such as Agba to emphasize my

2491
02:25:43,520 --> 02:25:47,840
Speaker 4: teachings to the students about the necessity of knowing On's history.

2492
02:25:48,280 --> 02:25:50,800
Speaker 4: And I'm proud to say I believe I've influenced a

2493
02:25:50,959 --> 02:25:54,720
Speaker 4: number of my students because I get constant complements from

2494
02:25:54,959 --> 02:25:58,320
Speaker 4: students that I see outside of the class all the

2495
02:25:58,320 --> 02:26:01,280
Speaker 4: way up to today about the kind of teachings that

2496
02:26:02,200 --> 02:26:05,280
Speaker 4: I would do in the classroom. But that's something that

2497
02:26:05,560 --> 02:26:08,360
Speaker 4: needs to happen because if you were to go in

2498
02:26:08,440 --> 02:26:10,880
Speaker 4: the streets or go into the high schools now ex

2499
02:26:11,000 --> 02:26:15,520
Speaker 4: to our students to write a paragraph or two paragraphs

2500
02:26:16,040 --> 02:26:19,640
Speaker 4: or what have you about the honorable markets Massagh Garbye,

2501
02:26:20,160 --> 02:26:24,200
Speaker 4: or about the Black Panther Party, or about any of

2502
02:26:24,640 --> 02:26:29,800
Speaker 4: the historical people that were working to uplift our people.

2503
02:26:30,280 --> 02:26:34,480
Speaker 4: They be lost, sadly to stay and so it's incomment

2504
02:26:34,680 --> 02:26:35,480
Speaker 4: upon that's why.

2505
02:26:37,360 --> 02:26:38,480
Speaker 7: And that just what you said.

2506
02:26:38,640 --> 02:26:41,360
Speaker 14: That's why they created the Holocaust Museum the Jewish people

2507
02:26:41,440 --> 02:26:44,720
Speaker 14: because years ago they discovered that young people knew nothing

2508
02:26:44,720 --> 02:26:47,840
Speaker 14: about the Holocaust, and they got together and created that museum. Baba,

2509
02:26:47,920 --> 02:26:50,160
Speaker 14: this is a direct attack or well on our memory,

2510
02:26:50,760 --> 02:26:51,440
Speaker 14: so we don't have no.

2511
02:26:51,520 --> 02:26:56,959
Speaker 4: References to move for you, right, absolutely, absolutely, and it's

2512
02:26:57,000 --> 02:27:00,320
Speaker 4: incommon upon us too. We have to begin to have

2513
02:27:00,600 --> 02:27:04,280
Speaker 4: freedom schools. But then that's another challenge. Going back to

2514
02:27:04,480 --> 02:27:09,879
Speaker 4: what uh brother Karem was making mention of that when

2515
02:27:09,920 --> 02:27:12,560
Speaker 4: he got into the nation, I was just sharing with

2516
02:27:12,720 --> 02:27:16,040
Speaker 4: him the kind of challenges that he would face, and

2517
02:27:16,160 --> 02:27:19,760
Speaker 4: those challenges would come from even within our community, because

2518
02:27:20,800 --> 02:27:27,640
Speaker 4: every church ideally should have a section teaching about our history.

2519
02:27:27,760 --> 02:27:33,000
Speaker 4: Every organization should have an organ teaching about our history,

2520
02:27:33,560 --> 02:27:37,560
Speaker 4: because without knowledge of our history, we don't really have

2521
02:27:37,680 --> 02:27:41,560
Speaker 4: a foundation. And when you made mention of that, you

2522
02:27:41,680 --> 02:27:44,400
Speaker 4: took me back to an experience at the high school

2523
02:27:44,480 --> 02:27:47,320
Speaker 4: I taught that that I was removed from because we

2524
02:27:47,400 --> 02:27:52,000
Speaker 4: were doing a black history program and the principal ordered

2525
02:27:52,040 --> 02:27:54,879
Speaker 4: me to take down a bulletin board that was saluting

2526
02:27:54,920 --> 02:27:58,119
Speaker 4: our people with images of our people in the main

2527
02:27:58,280 --> 02:28:01,560
Speaker 4: hallway because it didn't have pictures of white folks on that,

2528
02:28:01,680 --> 02:28:02,800
Speaker 4: which I refuse.

2529
02:28:02,520 --> 02:28:04,520
Speaker 5: To think it should.

2530
02:28:05,280 --> 02:28:10,280
Speaker 4: We we got we got people in power that they

2531
02:28:10,720 --> 02:28:16,720
Speaker 4: sometimes have no sense of history and perpetuate actual white power.

2532
02:28:17,240 --> 02:28:19,560
Speaker 4: And so that was a part of the struggles that

2533
02:28:19,720 --> 02:28:23,000
Speaker 4: we have within our communities and of itself.

2534
02:28:26,800 --> 02:28:28,000
Speaker 14: We've got to have our own schools.

2535
02:28:28,920 --> 02:28:33,879
Speaker 4: Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely, so we're on the same pagement, sister,

2536
02:28:33,959 --> 02:28:37,640
Speaker 4: and and again let me just salute your work, your

2537
02:28:37,720 --> 02:28:42,800
Speaker 4: work that is going to be upcomings. Keep doing what you're.

2538
02:28:42,680 --> 02:28:47,560
Speaker 14: Doing, I think, and all the work you APO is doing.

2539
02:28:48,720 --> 02:28:49,920
Speaker 4: Thank you every so much.

2540
02:28:50,680 --> 02:28:53,119
Speaker 3: After the top, let's keep moving with people.

2541
02:28:54,480 --> 02:28:56,360
Speaker 4: On the other side the break I was making mention,

2542
02:28:56,680 --> 02:29:00,280
Speaker 4: you know, of encouraging people on the spirituals. I had

2543
02:29:00,320 --> 02:29:02,480
Speaker 4: to read both the Holy Bible and the Holy Koran,

2544
02:29:03,120 --> 02:29:06,160
Speaker 4: and it was two versus out of Quran that I

2545
02:29:06,400 --> 02:29:08,680
Speaker 4: just want to paraphrase that I thank God that I

2546
02:29:08,840 --> 02:29:11,800
Speaker 4: try to live my life by and will encourage other

2547
02:29:11,879 --> 02:29:15,440
Speaker 4: folks to do consider to do likewise. And one of

2548
02:29:15,520 --> 02:29:17,360
Speaker 4: the verses out of the Bible, I mean out of

2549
02:29:17,400 --> 02:29:19,760
Speaker 4: the Holy Quran, speaks to the fact that there's only

2550
02:29:20,360 --> 02:29:23,320
Speaker 4: one thing that as a living human beings, that we

2551
02:29:23,360 --> 02:29:27,160
Speaker 4: should be prepared to do, and that is for the

2552
02:29:27,280 --> 02:29:30,920
Speaker 4: day that we meet the Creator. Because sure there's both

2553
02:29:31,000 --> 02:29:33,760
Speaker 4: the Bible and the Holy Quran teachers that will be

2554
02:29:34,360 --> 02:29:38,240
Speaker 4: after life, and so in preparing for their after life,

2555
02:29:38,720 --> 02:29:41,920
Speaker 4: what kind of contributions would you as the individual make

2556
02:29:42,040 --> 02:29:46,039
Speaker 4: that would please God or please the Creator. The second

2557
02:29:46,080 --> 02:29:50,080
Speaker 4: one is that for everybody who say they believe, and

2558
02:29:50,200 --> 02:29:51,920
Speaker 4: there are a lot of people that's listening to you

2559
02:29:52,080 --> 02:29:55,040
Speaker 4: say they believe as I say, I believe, know not

2560
02:29:55,240 --> 02:29:57,720
Speaker 4: that you will be tested. And we have a lot

2561
02:29:57,760 --> 02:30:02,680
Speaker 4: of various tests that comes upon us, including the health,

2562
02:30:02,840 --> 02:30:05,960
Speaker 4: including family issues, a lot of other you know, a

2563
02:30:06,040 --> 02:30:09,320
Speaker 4: lot of different things that test your belief and love

2564
02:30:09,560 --> 02:30:12,760
Speaker 4: of the Creator. So I just wanted to throw that

2565
02:30:12,920 --> 02:30:18,880
Speaker 4: out for consideration. And then going back to senagal and Gambia.

2566
02:30:21,240 --> 02:30:25,360
Speaker 4: One of the things that AGBACH encouraged our organization which

2567
02:30:25,480 --> 02:30:29,320
Speaker 4: we have been doing ever since, although we had done

2568
02:30:29,360 --> 02:30:32,640
Speaker 4: it once before years before before I had went to

2569
02:30:32,800 --> 02:30:38,679
Speaker 4: Zimbabwe with AGBA and that was to seeing international humanitarian

2570
02:30:38,959 --> 02:30:42,879
Speaker 4: aid to our people in Africa as well as the diaspora,

2571
02:30:42,959 --> 02:30:47,200
Speaker 4: and in nineteen eighty nine we was formed. The following year,

2572
02:30:47,240 --> 02:30:50,240
Speaker 4: in nineteen ninety, we shipped about seventy boxes of new

2573
02:30:50,360 --> 02:30:55,240
Speaker 4: clothing to Namibia as a symbol of or solidarity if

2574
02:30:55,280 --> 02:31:02,240
Speaker 4: it becoming independent, and then after going to Zambabwe in

2575
02:31:02,360 --> 02:31:06,560
Speaker 4: two thousand and three, IGBUY encouraged us to send some

2576
02:31:06,840 --> 02:31:11,520
Speaker 4: humanitarian aid two Zambabwe and we put together a program

2577
02:31:11,680 --> 02:31:13,680
Speaker 4: where we end up shipping four hundred and fifty eight

2578
02:31:13,760 --> 02:31:18,760
Speaker 4: plus boxes of clothing and medical supplies to Zambabwe the

2579
02:31:18,879 --> 02:31:21,520
Speaker 4: following year two thousand and four and our personally went

2580
02:31:21,600 --> 02:31:26,360
Speaker 4: there to dedicate it and the government stated that they

2581
02:31:26,440 --> 02:31:30,039
Speaker 4: felt that our goods worked over two point three million

2582
02:31:30,120 --> 02:31:34,640
Speaker 4: dollars in terms of the value place on what we

2583
02:31:34,720 --> 02:31:37,760
Speaker 4: had shipped the following year. And this is in the

2584
02:31:37,840 --> 02:31:40,520
Speaker 4: spirit of agbab But it was just really through the

2585
02:31:40,640 --> 02:31:45,920
Speaker 4: organization UAPO that we coordinated another effort to help Haiti

2586
02:31:46,560 --> 02:31:49,800
Speaker 4: that had been impacted by Hurricane Ivan in the year

2587
02:31:49,879 --> 02:31:55,520
Speaker 4: two thousand and four, where we shipped about five hundred

2588
02:31:55,640 --> 02:32:01,440
Speaker 4: forty boxes of food, water, clothing, magical supply and educational

2589
02:32:01,560 --> 02:32:05,600
Speaker 4: material to Haiti. Then in two thousand and six, the

2590
02:32:05,760 --> 02:32:09,400
Speaker 4: East Saint Louis, Ethiopia and community came to our organization

2591
02:32:09,600 --> 02:32:14,440
Speaker 4: and asked us to conduct a book drive to help

2592
02:32:14,520 --> 02:32:18,600
Speaker 4: fight it literacy in Ethiopia, which we did and we

2593
02:32:18,680 --> 02:32:21,240
Speaker 4: were able to ship nine thousand books there, which I

2594
02:32:21,320 --> 02:32:27,000
Speaker 4: went there to dedicate in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia. And then

2595
02:32:27,879 --> 02:32:31,640
Speaker 4: one of our members had visited Ghana and came back

2596
02:32:31,800 --> 02:32:34,640
Speaker 4: and was asking us to help build a library in

2597
02:32:34,879 --> 02:32:40,040
Speaker 4: Ghana by donating books, which we ended up doing shipping

2598
02:32:40,640 --> 02:32:45,640
Speaker 4: donating ten thousand books. And then just this past year,

2599
02:32:46,480 --> 02:32:51,440
Speaker 4: working through a sister named Kendre Phipps, who had prior

2600
02:32:51,760 --> 02:32:55,680
Speaker 4: to her organization which was called the Bridge Foundation, had

2601
02:32:55,720 --> 02:33:00,840
Speaker 4: shipped about fifteen thousand sanitary napkins for the students high

2602
02:33:00,840 --> 02:33:06,000
Speaker 4: school students and Gambia in the area called Contour that

2603
02:33:06,800 --> 02:33:10,080
Speaker 4: we took up her challenge to ship books to help

2604
02:33:10,120 --> 02:33:13,160
Speaker 4: build a library there. And I'm proud to say, may

2605
02:33:13,200 --> 02:33:16,240
Speaker 4: I've already seated on your program prior. But we we

2606
02:33:16,840 --> 02:33:20,520
Speaker 4: said an objective of seven thousand books and we're talking

2607
02:33:20,560 --> 02:33:25,800
Speaker 4: about fo century books technical slash vocation of books by

2608
02:33:26,000 --> 02:33:29,000
Speaker 4: instead of seven thousand, we was able to shift eighty

2609
02:33:29,160 --> 02:33:33,000
Speaker 4: one hundred books to Gambia and they are on the

2610
02:33:33,120 --> 02:33:36,320
Speaker 4: way there as we are talking now, scheduled to be

2611
02:33:36,440 --> 02:33:40,320
Speaker 4: there the first weekend made. And all that has started

2612
02:33:41,240 --> 02:33:46,000
Speaker 4: really through our in terms of that consistency starting in

2613
02:33:46,120 --> 02:33:48,480
Speaker 4: two thousand and three, two thousand and four, so I

2614
02:33:48,640 --> 02:33:51,720
Speaker 4: just went again add the kind of impact that I

2615
02:33:51,879 --> 02:33:54,960
Speaker 4: brought had had on myself and our people are not

2616
02:33:55,160 --> 02:33:57,360
Speaker 4: just here in this country but across the world.

2617
02:33:58,480 --> 02:34:01,320
Speaker 3: All right, thirteen enough the top, let's go to Gary, Indiana.

2618
02:34:01,840 --> 02:34:04,680
Speaker 3: Brother Coribina's waiting for us. He's online, one grand riasing,

2619
02:34:04,720 --> 02:34:05,480
Speaker 3: Brother Corbina.

2620
02:34:05,640 --> 02:34:10,360
Speaker 5: You're my brother, Jaqui gran Rysing, Brother Nelson, brother, brother Saiki.

2621
02:34:10,440 --> 02:34:11,480
Speaker 5: How y'all feel this morning?

2622
02:34:12,800 --> 02:34:13,920
Speaker 4: Great? My brother? How are you?

2623
02:34:15,480 --> 02:34:18,960
Speaker 5: I'm good man, I'm good. Just thinking about brother Ogbar

2624
02:34:19,160 --> 02:34:21,640
Speaker 5: and and when I had the opportunity to meet him,

2625
02:34:21,680 --> 02:34:26,360
Speaker 5: just wanted to share that. I was in Donna around

2626
02:34:26,400 --> 02:34:30,160
Speaker 5: two thousand and three. I was with Uncle jeronimo Ji Jaga,

2627
02:34:31,200 --> 02:34:33,160
Speaker 5: and he said, let's go be going over to meet

2628
02:34:33,200 --> 02:34:35,520
Speaker 5: by the Ogbar. And he went to the compound out

2629
02:34:35,560 --> 02:34:37,480
Speaker 5: there and pretty much spent most of the day there

2630
02:34:38,360 --> 02:34:40,200
Speaker 5: and it was really really cool to be there with

2631
02:34:40,360 --> 02:34:45,040
Speaker 5: him and UH, and I reminded Minister Ogbar about that

2632
02:34:46,040 --> 02:34:50,240
Speaker 5: years later when I was working with Bob Law and

2633
02:34:50,360 --> 02:34:55,160
Speaker 5: the National Black Leadership Alliance and UH, we were coming

2634
02:34:55,200 --> 02:34:57,960
Speaker 5: in from Chicago and on the plane with us was

2635
02:34:58,000 --> 02:35:00,959
Speaker 5: a tourney Blue Myers and he was gonna be with us.

2636
02:35:01,040 --> 02:35:04,240
Speaker 5: We were working on trying to do something about this uh,

2637
02:35:04,879 --> 02:35:08,000
Speaker 5: this ratchet violent vogue music that that's been you know,

2638
02:35:08,320 --> 02:35:11,800
Speaker 5: inundating us for so long, and brother Myers was gonna,

2639
02:35:11,800 --> 02:35:14,200
Speaker 5: you know, see what we could do regally, and so

2640
02:35:14,320 --> 02:35:16,520
Speaker 5: we were together in the car, Bob. It took us

2641
02:35:16,560 --> 02:35:19,840
Speaker 5: all up and uh, brother act Bob minutes to act

2642
02:35:19,840 --> 02:35:22,160
Speaker 5: about either call Bob or Bob called him, and just

2643
02:35:22,280 --> 02:35:25,519
Speaker 5: to be in the back seat listening to their conversation

2644
02:35:25,840 --> 02:35:28,400
Speaker 5: was just such a delight. And I did get a

2645
02:35:28,480 --> 02:35:30,240
Speaker 5: chance to sneak in there and just mention it when

2646
02:35:30,240 --> 02:35:33,000
Speaker 5: I had met him before with Uncle g And it

2647
02:35:33,120 --> 02:35:37,000
Speaker 5: was just again listening to those legends uh speak that

2648
02:35:37,160 --> 02:35:39,400
Speaker 5: day and you know, of course I couldn't record it,

2649
02:35:39,440 --> 02:35:41,800
Speaker 5: wouldn't thinking about recording it, but just I did get

2650
02:35:41,840 --> 02:35:45,000
Speaker 5: a beautiful picture of a brother Bob and then Tony

2651
02:35:45,040 --> 02:35:47,160
Speaker 5: lou Miers in front of the myths that that morning

2652
02:35:47,760 --> 02:35:50,039
Speaker 5: in Harlem. So it just you know, I just made

2653
02:35:50,080 --> 02:35:52,080
Speaker 5: me think about that and just all the great work

2654
02:35:52,400 --> 02:35:55,000
Speaker 5: that I'm even hearing more of what our brother did,

2655
02:35:55,400 --> 02:35:58,520
Speaker 5: and just uh also I got kind of a question too,

2656
02:35:59,280 --> 02:36:02,320
Speaker 5: and you all the time about you know, this legacy

2657
02:36:02,400 --> 02:36:04,440
Speaker 5: and this history and and I know me and you

2658
02:36:04,640 --> 02:36:08,000
Speaker 5: Zakia talked about you know, picking up that weapon and

2659
02:36:08,040 --> 02:36:10,360
Speaker 5: continue this work that's so important that we need today

2660
02:36:10,600 --> 02:36:12,360
Speaker 5: from so many of our people who are who are

2661
02:36:12,400 --> 02:36:15,400
Speaker 5: finishing up, so many of our legends, our warriors who

2662
02:36:15,480 --> 02:36:16,160
Speaker 5: are finishing up.

2663
02:36:16,959 --> 02:36:18,600
Speaker 22: And just we just got so much to do on

2664
02:36:18,680 --> 02:36:18,959
Speaker 22: that end.

2665
02:36:18,959 --> 02:36:21,760
Speaker 5: And I think about you know, uh we talked about

2666
02:36:21,760 --> 02:36:23,560
Speaker 5: the churches and the ministries, and I think about what

2667
02:36:23,640 --> 02:36:27,880
Speaker 5: Howard was about to do with this course curriculum dedicated

2668
02:36:27,920 --> 02:36:31,240
Speaker 5: to card b And I know Bob will be appalled.

2669
02:36:31,360 --> 02:36:34,360
Speaker 5: And I know uh if uh uh Minister Act bar

2670
02:36:34,560 --> 02:36:37,600
Speaker 5: and and uh Zaki, I know you are too, brother,

2671
02:36:37,680 --> 02:36:40,440
Speaker 5: cars like, what are we doing? You know, we just

2672
02:36:40,520 --> 02:36:42,280
Speaker 5: got to again, we got to put in more work

2673
02:36:42,320 --> 02:36:45,080
Speaker 5: and just to get you know, just to get us

2674
02:36:45,160 --> 02:36:46,960
Speaker 5: to realize that how important it is for us to

2675
02:36:46,959 --> 02:36:49,640
Speaker 5: truly understand our history. And I appreciate too the Minister

2676
02:36:49,680 --> 02:36:53,280
Speaker 5: Act Bob was a Pan Africanist, you know here you

2677
02:36:53,360 --> 02:36:56,160
Speaker 5: know he understood that. So that's my comment, man, is

2678
02:36:56,200 --> 02:36:57,760
Speaker 5: I just wanted to just comment on that and just

2679
02:36:57,840 --> 02:36:59,920
Speaker 5: share that and ask that question. You know, it's still

2680
02:37:00,000 --> 02:37:02,200
Speaker 5: it's also said love and light top brother Bob Blah too,

2681
02:37:02,240 --> 02:37:03,840
Speaker 5: who's struggled a little bit, and we just want to

2682
02:37:04,480 --> 02:37:06,000
Speaker 5: send us some love and light too, man. But it

2683
02:37:06,080 --> 02:37:07,720
Speaker 5: was really good to be with be with them brothers

2684
02:37:07,760 --> 02:37:09,680
Speaker 5: that day, man, and just listening to that conversation.

2685
02:37:11,240 --> 02:37:14,560
Speaker 4: All right, thank you, Barba. I'm sorry.

2686
02:37:16,040 --> 02:37:19,000
Speaker 5: Comment and just what do you what what do we

2687
02:37:19,080 --> 02:37:22,160
Speaker 5: need to do? You know, how can we you know,

2688
02:37:22,280 --> 02:37:24,720
Speaker 5: as we you know, as these brothers and sisters, you know,

2689
02:37:24,959 --> 02:37:28,440
Speaker 5: finish up? And how do we pick up that that legacy?

2690
02:37:28,520 --> 02:37:31,680
Speaker 5: How do we continue on? And especially in the time

2691
02:37:31,800 --> 02:37:34,960
Speaker 5: such as this, you know what's happening nowadays?

2692
02:37:35,720 --> 02:37:37,760
Speaker 3: All right to you? Well hold your response, Brother Zaki.

2693
02:37:37,760 --> 02:37:39,240
Speaker 3: We got to step aside for a few moments. I

2694
02:37:39,280 --> 02:37:40,600
Speaker 3: thank you, Brother quld Be, and I thank you for

2695
02:37:40,680 --> 02:37:43,920
Speaker 3: mentioning Bob loves. Bob's got some health challenge his family.

2696
02:37:44,000 --> 02:37:45,920
Speaker 3: If you can send him some lights and love, some

2697
02:37:45,959 --> 02:37:48,720
Speaker 3: prayers or whatever, we appreciate it. Seventeen half the top

2698
02:37:48,840 --> 02:37:50,320
Speaker 3: hours I mentioned, we got to take a short break.

2699
02:37:50,360 --> 02:37:52,560
Speaker 3: We come back with brother Zaki. Brewdy you want to

2700
02:37:52,600 --> 02:37:54,880
Speaker 3: join the conversation, reach out to us at eight hundred

2701
02:37:54,920 --> 02:37:57,760
Speaker 3: four or five zero seventy eight seventy six, and we'll

2702
02:37:57,800 --> 02:38:00,640
Speaker 3: take your phone calls next and Grand Rising family, thanks

2703
02:38:00,680 --> 02:38:02,560
Speaker 3: for staying with us on this Monday morning, this last

2704
02:38:02,640 --> 02:38:05,600
Speaker 3: Monday in March of twenty twenty six. I guess there's

2705
02:38:05,640 --> 02:38:08,400
Speaker 3: the President General of the Universal of African People's Organization,

2706
02:38:08,879 --> 02:38:12,119
Speaker 3: Brother Zaki. Brewery is based in Saint Louis. So Brother Zaki,

2707
02:38:12,160 --> 02:38:14,320
Speaker 3: I'll let you respond to the last all these questions.

2708
02:38:15,240 --> 02:38:18,520
Speaker 4: Okay, First of all, want a salute brother Kuamena for

2709
02:38:18,720 --> 02:38:23,840
Speaker 4: his work in terms of exposing another attack on the

2710
02:38:23,920 --> 02:38:28,360
Speaker 4: black community to this government's propaganda machine. And that is

2711
02:38:28,800 --> 02:38:35,279
Speaker 4: the kind of music that is so filthy and beluttering

2712
02:38:35,920 --> 02:38:39,960
Speaker 4: our sisters, that is perpetrated by people who look like us.

2713
02:38:40,760 --> 02:38:43,400
Speaker 4: And what we have to do is suggest, as there

2714
02:38:43,600 --> 02:38:47,560
Speaker 4: was a recent boycott of Target, we don't have to

2715
02:38:47,760 --> 02:38:52,400
Speaker 4: check some of the people who project the kind of

2716
02:38:52,520 --> 02:38:58,800
Speaker 4: negative images as part of this propaganda machine that negates

2717
02:38:59,200 --> 02:39:04,720
Speaker 4: our our reality. So I just wanted to say that

2718
02:39:05,000 --> 02:39:07,520
Speaker 4: in terms of Quamena, and he made mention in terms

2719
02:39:07,560 --> 02:39:11,560
Speaker 4: of the ongoing battle for leadership, we just have to intensify.

2720
02:39:11,720 --> 02:39:14,400
Speaker 4: This is a marathon race that we're in to be

2721
02:39:14,640 --> 02:39:18,440
Speaker 4: totally liberated. So we have to create other leadership that

2722
02:39:18,520 --> 02:39:23,320
Speaker 4: we passed the battion onto and then intensify us our

2723
02:39:23,400 --> 02:39:28,440
Speaker 4: struggles for the day that we will see liberation, because

2724
02:39:28,480 --> 02:39:31,280
Speaker 4: at some point in the history we will be totally

2725
02:39:31,440 --> 02:39:34,600
Speaker 4: victorious as a race and become the great people that

2726
02:39:34,760 --> 02:39:37,560
Speaker 4: we were at one time and in control of our

2727
02:39:37,640 --> 02:39:41,200
Speaker 4: own destiny. So again I just want to lose Brother

2728
02:39:41,360 --> 02:39:43,360
Speaker 4: Quamina for the work that he does.

2729
02:39:45,040 --> 02:39:48,520
Speaker 3: Twenty two out of the top Scotta Richmond, Virginia Slama

2730
02:39:48,560 --> 02:39:51,320
Speaker 3: linkin Brother Abdul Alien, the only brother.

2731
02:39:51,160 --> 02:39:55,599
Speaker 8: Sha key Well Liacolm Slime Glenn wisen.

2732
02:39:57,800 --> 02:39:58,920
Speaker 5: B our Born.

2733
02:40:00,200 --> 02:40:06,199
Speaker 8: First encamped one another in nineteen seventy two in March

2734
02:40:06,400 --> 02:40:10,360
Speaker 8: number seven in New York, and my wife and I

2735
02:40:10,520 --> 02:40:14,800
Speaker 8: had just got married and it was a trip to

2736
02:40:14,879 --> 02:40:18,920
Speaker 8: New York to his the Great Teachings of Islam through

2737
02:40:19,000 --> 02:40:24,760
Speaker 8: the Minicial honorbe Laijah Muhammads Minister Brother fire Khan, and

2738
02:40:24,879 --> 02:40:29,520
Speaker 8: Brother Agba was the opening person that day. He would

2739
02:40:29,600 --> 02:40:36,800
Speaker 8: open up the meetings and so we were greatly impressed

2740
02:40:36,840 --> 02:40:41,760
Speaker 8: with the way he opened up. But that was before

2741
02:40:42,000 --> 02:40:48,200
Speaker 8: this the split between the fall of the nation. So

2742
02:40:48,400 --> 02:40:55,440
Speaker 8: in nineteen seventy five, when the Most Honorabelijah Muhammed departed.

2743
02:40:57,959 --> 02:41:02,440
Speaker 8: Minister fire Khan at that time with the email was

2744
02:41:02,600 --> 02:41:09,400
Speaker 8: Dean Muhammed. But in nineteen seventy seven when the split came,

2745
02:41:11,040 --> 02:41:20,600
Speaker 8: Brother h brother Minister fire Khan when he establishing the

2746
02:41:20,760 --> 02:41:23,400
Speaker 8: nation and Brother Agba was one of his great himpers

2747
02:41:23,440 --> 02:41:28,000
Speaker 8: at that time. And so by me being in Richmond,

2748
02:41:28,080 --> 02:41:32,880
Speaker 8: Virginia and I was helping Minister fire Khn to rebuild,

2749
02:41:33,120 --> 02:41:36,800
Speaker 8: Brother Agba reached out to me. And this was before

2750
02:41:36,879 --> 02:41:40,840
Speaker 8: our publication came out with the final called newspaper. The

2751
02:41:40,920 --> 02:41:45,000
Speaker 8: way we would reach people. Brother Agba was sending papers

2752
02:41:45,040 --> 02:41:49,480
Speaker 8: into me from Saint Louis. There was a black newspaper

2753
02:41:49,520 --> 02:41:52,320
Speaker 8: in Saint Louis that ran an article by Minister fire

2754
02:41:52,400 --> 02:41:58,560
Speaker 8: Conn and so that paper helped us to befriend different

2755
02:41:58,640 --> 02:42:02,760
Speaker 8: blacks and former members who wanted to come back to

2756
02:42:02,879 --> 02:42:06,560
Speaker 8: the work of the Honorbielaanje Muhammad. And was through Akba

2757
02:42:06,760 --> 02:42:10,879
Speaker 8: reaching out to me that we reached some of our

2758
02:42:11,120 --> 02:42:17,720
Speaker 8: former laborers in the nation to help restructure for we

2759
02:42:17,879 --> 02:42:22,840
Speaker 8: have now as the Nation of Islam under the Honorbilianjes Muhammad.

2760
02:42:23,600 --> 02:42:31,680
Speaker 8: Minister Brother Falcon. Brother Agba also had a great influence

2761
02:42:33,360 --> 02:42:37,960
Speaker 8: on when I said young brothers and sisters in the

2762
02:42:38,120 --> 02:42:46,640
Speaker 8: area of being dedicated. I also kept him in touch

2763
02:42:46,800 --> 02:42:49,680
Speaker 8: with the Carl Nelson Show in the early days of

2764
02:42:49,760 --> 02:42:53,000
Speaker 8: his travel. A lot of times he would travel, but

2765
02:42:53,080 --> 02:42:56,240
Speaker 8: he would reach out to me and say, Uh, at

2766
02:42:56,280 --> 02:42:58,880
Speaker 8: that time, Carl Nelson was coming on in the evenings

2767
02:43:00,280 --> 02:43:04,600
Speaker 8: I think maybe from three to from three to six

2768
02:43:04,760 --> 02:43:05,720
Speaker 8: or some of that nature.

2769
02:43:06,520 --> 02:43:07,000
Speaker 4: And Uh.

2770
02:43:09,200 --> 02:43:12,120
Speaker 8: It was great memories with working with him to help

2771
02:43:12,360 --> 02:43:16,040
Speaker 8: reach those of our brothers and sisters who wanted to

2772
02:43:16,160 --> 02:43:20,200
Speaker 8: come back to the path. It was brother Archbau who

2773
02:43:20,320 --> 02:43:24,720
Speaker 8: shared a great formula with me in order to be successful.

2774
02:43:24,879 --> 02:43:27,640
Speaker 8: He would always say, brother, he got the carefully plan,

2775
02:43:29,440 --> 02:43:33,280
Speaker 8: work hard, and pray on that in that former would

2776
02:43:33,320 --> 02:43:34,199
Speaker 8: get you success.

2777
02:43:36,080 --> 02:43:36,440
Speaker 5: And so.

2778
02:43:38,760 --> 02:43:44,160
Speaker 8: I'm happy to say we worked to reorganize under his

2779
02:43:44,360 --> 02:43:49,439
Speaker 8: guidance and we brought back different laborers like brother Minister Rockmann,

2780
02:43:49,640 --> 02:43:52,560
Speaker 8: who was one of the great helpers of Nami Lajah Muhammad.

2781
02:43:53,600 --> 02:43:57,480
Speaker 8: We brought back brothers like John Stebos who was updoor

2782
02:43:57,480 --> 02:44:01,080
Speaker 8: a lot, and a lot of these people were close

2783
02:44:01,240 --> 02:44:07,480
Speaker 8: contacts of minds at that time that he shared different

2784
02:44:07,640 --> 02:44:10,960
Speaker 8: histories with need to get to them.

2785
02:44:12,120 --> 02:44:12,480
Speaker 5: And so.

2786
02:44:14,320 --> 02:44:16,600
Speaker 8: I just want to say it was an honor meeting him,

2787
02:44:16,680 --> 02:44:23,280
Speaker 8: and the honor working with him, and his dedication to

2788
02:44:23,520 --> 02:44:28,920
Speaker 8: the honor of fire Come was unmatched. You know, sometimes

2789
02:44:29,040 --> 02:44:32,920
Speaker 8: people are doing great things at the top need great

2790
02:44:33,000 --> 02:44:33,440
Speaker 8: help us.

2791
02:44:34,160 --> 02:44:36,320
Speaker 5: And so, as a brother said, he was a.

2792
02:44:36,480 --> 02:44:40,119
Speaker 8: Recording angel, and he knew much.

2793
02:44:40,040 --> 02:44:43,840
Speaker 5: About the world, and he had a great love for.

2794
02:44:45,480 --> 02:44:50,000
Speaker 8: And respect for those who were in college. He had

2795
02:44:50,000 --> 02:44:53,840
Speaker 8: a great love and respect for travel. And he also

2796
02:44:54,040 --> 02:45:00,000
Speaker 8: wanted to make more people aware of the African experience

2797
02:45:00,280 --> 02:45:04,040
Speaker 8: along with the nation, because it all tied in together.

2798
02:45:05,320 --> 02:45:09,240
Speaker 8: And so I just want to salute my brother and

2799
02:45:09,400 --> 02:45:13,400
Speaker 8: his family, and I want to salute your program because

2800
02:45:14,520 --> 02:45:19,840
Speaker 8: often he would say, Carl Nelson Show was very, very

2801
02:45:20,280 --> 02:45:24,680
Speaker 8: instrumental in his interviews. He did a lot of interviews

2802
02:45:24,760 --> 02:45:29,040
Speaker 8: with you. And so if I repeat myself, I just

2803
02:45:29,120 --> 02:45:32,920
Speaker 8: want to say I've enjoyed those who've called in before

2804
02:45:33,040 --> 02:45:37,000
Speaker 8: me as well as those who me call in afterwards.

2805
02:45:38,120 --> 02:45:40,240
Speaker 8: Thank you, e Mail. I'll continue to bless your God.

2806
02:45:41,160 --> 02:45:44,119
Speaker 3: All right, thank you, I accepted. Brother Sachi, you want

2807
02:45:44,120 --> 02:45:46,000
Speaker 3: to respond to what.

2808
02:45:47,560 --> 02:45:51,120
Speaker 24: Ab Alien just said, I just want to say, right on,

2809
02:45:51,360 --> 02:45:55,160
Speaker 24: and you just added the context of the great work

2810
02:45:55,240 --> 02:45:57,920
Speaker 24: that i'd buy has done and.

2811
02:45:59,680 --> 02:46:03,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it just shows expresses. Uh. In fact, at

2812
02:46:04,040 --> 02:46:09,480
Speaker 4: his celebration you had different people who they had on

2813
02:46:10,160 --> 02:46:14,119
Speaker 4: call in on the screen zoom and they salute him

2814
02:46:14,120 --> 02:46:17,880
Speaker 4: from Trinidad, from you know, Ghana, from different places. So

2815
02:46:18,040 --> 02:46:22,320
Speaker 4: his impact was worldwide. And uh, I just want to

2816
02:46:22,360 --> 02:46:25,600
Speaker 4: say thank you to the brother from Reachumond for his coming.

2817
02:46:26,760 --> 02:46:28,680
Speaker 3: All right, thirty minutes off the top of that, let's

2818
02:46:28,680 --> 02:46:32,879
Speaker 3: go overseas now, brother Zaki, Uh, let's go to Mamajan, Africa.

2819
02:46:33,040 --> 02:46:35,640
Speaker 3: Some of you know by by a different name, but

2820
02:46:36,520 --> 02:46:40,519
Speaker 3: sister Imakas grind Rising, you're only brother Zakid.

2821
02:46:41,840 --> 02:46:50,880
Speaker 17: Grand Rising. Yes, if I'm calling from Ghana, yes, I

2822
02:46:51,120 --> 02:46:56,280
Speaker 17: just want to say that brother Aqa and it's the

2823
02:46:56,360 --> 02:47:03,160
Speaker 17: o truly truly one of a kind and I and

2824
02:47:03,280 --> 02:47:04,800
Speaker 17: my family owe a lot to him.

2825
02:47:06,200 --> 02:47:07,480
Speaker 9: In fact, he was.

2826
02:47:07,560 --> 02:47:15,560
Speaker 17: Responsible for connecting me with Minister Phara Khan, which enabled

2827
02:47:15,640 --> 02:47:18,920
Speaker 17: us to take a young man who was ten years

2828
02:47:18,959 --> 02:47:24,119
Speaker 17: old at the time and about to die. He had

2829
02:47:24,200 --> 02:47:29,800
Speaker 17: a humongous tumor growing out of his mouth and Minister

2830
02:47:29,959 --> 02:47:31,800
Speaker 17: Phara Khan took a look at him.

2831
02:47:33,320 --> 02:47:40,320
Speaker 8: And hello, yes, you're on the area, Minister Phara Khan.

2832
02:47:40,720 --> 02:47:43,600
Speaker 17: Ministerhara Khan took a look at him and had about

2833
02:47:43,680 --> 02:47:47,840
Speaker 17: five other doctors from Howard University who were visiting Donna

2834
02:47:47,920 --> 02:47:50,480
Speaker 17: at the time to look at the young man. And

2835
02:47:50,600 --> 02:47:55,280
Speaker 17: he said, if you can get into America, we'll take

2836
02:47:55,360 --> 02:48:00,879
Speaker 17: care of him. And we did. We ran around, asked

2837
02:48:00,959 --> 02:48:06,000
Speaker 17: for donations and went to airlines. And I want to

2838
02:48:06,120 --> 02:48:10,720
Speaker 17: say the young man's name is Prince Busibou. He was

2839
02:48:10,879 --> 02:48:13,720
Speaker 17: ten and he was one of the children in my

2840
02:48:14,000 --> 02:48:18,800
Speaker 17: educational sponsorship program. Well, I am so proud to say

2841
02:48:19,520 --> 02:48:23,600
Speaker 17: that that young man is now an administrator at the

2842
02:48:23,800 --> 02:48:29,400
Speaker 17: University of Cape Coast. The tumor has never grown back

2843
02:48:30,040 --> 02:48:35,879
Speaker 17: as it had been three times before. We went to Washington, DC,

2844
02:48:36,040 --> 02:48:42,360
Speaker 17: to Howard University Hospital, and we owe his life to

2845
02:48:42,480 --> 02:48:47,320
Speaker 17: Minnester Shara Khan, those seven doctors that operated on him,

2846
02:48:48,600 --> 02:48:56,600
Speaker 17: and my brother Minister Okbamahammad. We were moved to God

2847
02:48:56,680 --> 02:49:00,119
Speaker 17: up and when I got here, I met brother Obau

2848
02:49:01,080 --> 02:49:07,280
Speaker 17: and became part of the family. So he is well

2849
02:49:07,480 --> 02:49:13,320
Speaker 17: loved worldwide and my prayer, as the prayers of others,

2850
02:49:14,600 --> 02:49:20,480
Speaker 17: is that he is seeing received by the most time.

2851
02:49:21,440 --> 02:49:25,920
Speaker 17: We will miss him sorely. An elder one said to

2852
02:49:26,040 --> 02:49:29,040
Speaker 17: me when I lost someone who was very close to me.

2853
02:49:30,120 --> 02:49:36,520
Speaker 17: She said, please do not cry, for birds with wet

2854
02:49:36,640 --> 02:49:38,320
Speaker 17: wings cannot fly.

2855
02:49:40,040 --> 02:49:41,039
Speaker 5: So wherever.

2856
02:49:42,400 --> 02:49:47,880
Speaker 17: My brother Oba is in the best place because he

2857
02:49:48,120 --> 02:49:50,080
Speaker 17: deserves every crown.

2858
02:49:53,120 --> 02:50:01,280
Speaker 3: All right, every clown's Amarcus. Just want to thank you

2859
02:50:01,840 --> 02:50:05,440
Speaker 3: for what you've done for folks in Ghana. Sister in Marcus,

2860
02:50:05,680 --> 02:50:07,680
Speaker 3: and people go to Ghana, you've got to meet sister

2861
02:50:08,280 --> 02:50:11,400
Speaker 3: Sister Imocus. She's you know, they call her now Mama

2862
02:50:11,440 --> 02:50:13,720
Speaker 3: Juan Africa. You want to find out anything what's going

2863
02:50:13,760 --> 02:50:16,440
Speaker 3: on in Ghana, this is the lady you need to

2864
02:50:16,480 --> 02:50:18,440
Speaker 3: talk to. And she's been on this program a few

2865
02:50:18,520 --> 02:50:21,600
Speaker 3: times before. So Sister Imocus, thank you and thank you

2866
02:50:21,640 --> 02:50:24,000
Speaker 3: for what you do representives there in Ghana.

2867
02:50:25,480 --> 02:50:28,200
Speaker 17: Well let me say this. I did away for a

2868
02:50:28,280 --> 02:50:32,280
Speaker 17: little while, but I want people to know that One

2869
02:50:32,360 --> 02:50:38,920
Speaker 17: Africa is reopened, that I am in el Mina. The

2870
02:50:39,080 --> 02:50:43,080
Speaker 17: doors are open. Please feel free to come and Carl,

2871
02:50:43,240 --> 02:50:45,440
Speaker 17: let me tell you. You don't know what it does

2872
02:50:45,560 --> 02:50:49,160
Speaker 17: to my heart when people show up at my gate.

2873
02:50:49,320 --> 02:50:52,680
Speaker 17: In fact, a young man who was here ten years

2874
02:50:52,720 --> 02:51:00,360
Speaker 17: ago brought his mother today to One Africa. And you know,

2875
02:51:01,200 --> 02:51:06,000
Speaker 17: people keep coming like that, and so I feel truly blessed.

2876
02:51:07,360 --> 02:51:10,960
Speaker 17: You know, when the ancestors gave me this property, I

2877
02:51:11,160 --> 02:51:16,039
Speaker 17: said that I would be an obedient servant and serve

2878
02:51:16,320 --> 02:51:20,280
Speaker 17: our ancestor as well. And I thank you so much

2879
02:51:20,400 --> 02:51:23,480
Speaker 17: for the time that you've given, for what you share,

2880
02:51:24,280 --> 02:51:26,880
Speaker 17: and for the love that you've given to our community.

2881
02:51:27,480 --> 02:51:29,039
Speaker 17: And you need to come to Ghana.

2882
02:51:30,640 --> 02:51:32,880
Speaker 3: I've been several times, and you know that I've been.

2883
02:51:32,959 --> 02:51:37,400
Speaker 3: I've been to one Africa. Listen out there on cass

2884
02:51:38,160 --> 02:51:43,800
Speaker 3: I do I know I'm due, uh, but but sister Emachus,

2885
02:51:44,200 --> 02:51:46,360
Speaker 3: where where is one Africa for the folks? A lot

2886
02:51:46,400 --> 02:51:48,680
Speaker 3: of people going to Ghana this this this this summer.

2887
02:51:48,760 --> 02:51:51,040
Speaker 3: Where where can they find one Africa? Because they've got

2888
02:51:51,120 --> 02:51:52,000
Speaker 3: to stop by your place?

2889
02:51:52,120 --> 02:51:56,680
Speaker 17: They can they can find one Africa in el Nina.

2890
02:51:57,280 --> 02:51:58,760
Speaker 17: It treats el.

2891
02:51:58,680 --> 02:52:02,600
Speaker 3: Nina right, that's one of the slave dungeons.

2892
02:52:02,640 --> 02:52:07,640
Speaker 17: Are no the slave dungeons out. One Africa is right

2893
02:52:07,760 --> 02:52:11,200
Speaker 17: in the middle. We have the cap Coat Castle dungeons

2894
02:52:11,280 --> 02:52:14,400
Speaker 17: to the east of us, and we have the Elmina

2895
02:52:14,520 --> 02:52:17,600
Speaker 17: Castle dungeons to the west of us. And we are

2896
02:52:17,760 --> 02:52:22,320
Speaker 17: right in the middle zero degrees latitude, zero degrees along

2897
02:52:22,400 --> 02:52:26,400
Speaker 17: the toes and that's where we are well thank you

2898
02:52:26,480 --> 02:52:31,800
Speaker 17: because we're for One Africa. And the correct pronunciation of

2899
02:52:31,920 --> 02:52:33,800
Speaker 17: my name is I'm a.

2900
02:52:33,920 --> 02:52:36,480
Speaker 3: Cuff, I'm a cus. I know I messed it up.

2901
02:52:36,480 --> 02:52:38,200
Speaker 3: There's been a minute since I spoke with you.

2902
02:52:39,920 --> 02:52:41,400
Speaker 15: It means it.

2903
02:52:41,520 --> 02:52:44,760
Speaker 17: Means our Mother Africa, Queen of the Earth.

2904
02:52:46,000 --> 02:52:50,560
Speaker 3: Got you. Go ahead, brother Za.

2905
02:52:55,000 --> 02:53:02,640
Speaker 4: Solut and I've been to Tana quite to both areas

2906
02:53:02,720 --> 02:53:06,800
Speaker 4: that she mentioned, but I didn't know about her. Next

2907
02:53:06,879 --> 02:53:10,280
Speaker 4: time I go to Ghana, definitely would like to stop

2908
02:53:10,360 --> 02:53:13,680
Speaker 4: by One Africa and we'll do so and they carriage

2909
02:53:14,360 --> 02:53:17,039
Speaker 4: and it's a good opportunity to en carriage our people.

2910
02:53:17,640 --> 02:53:22,119
Speaker 4: I always tell our people that before you make your transitions,

2911
02:53:22,200 --> 02:53:26,080
Speaker 4: you need to step on the continent of Africa. So

2912
02:53:26,320 --> 02:53:32,680
Speaker 4: get your those who are listening, get your passport, those

2913
02:53:32,720 --> 02:53:36,320
Speaker 4: a date that you're going to Africa. That should be

2914
02:53:37,560 --> 02:53:38,560
Speaker 4: everybody agenda.

2915
02:53:40,200 --> 02:53:44,280
Speaker 11: That's right, and do it now and it may not

2916
02:53:44,440 --> 02:53:49,040
Speaker 11: come back. You know, say that back.

2917
02:53:50,280 --> 02:53:53,400
Speaker 3: That makes so many people went how long? How many years?

2918
02:53:53,440 --> 02:53:53,560
Speaker 19: Now?

2919
02:53:55,040 --> 02:54:01,640
Speaker 17: I celebrate forty years on the continent next year. And

2920
02:54:01,800 --> 02:54:05,960
Speaker 17: I left my family. You know, there is definitely a

2921
02:54:06,200 --> 02:54:10,800
Speaker 17: sacrifice to be made, and my greatest sacrifice was to

2922
02:54:10,920 --> 02:54:14,440
Speaker 17: leave my family. Who did not want to come to Africa,

2923
02:54:16,200 --> 02:54:17,879
Speaker 17: but I got a lot of other family.

2924
02:54:21,040 --> 02:54:22,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't know what they're missing.

2925
02:54:23,879 --> 02:54:27,360
Speaker 17: No, they don't, but they'll wake up. They're waking up,

2926
02:54:29,000 --> 02:54:29,360
Speaker 17: all right.

2927
02:54:29,440 --> 02:54:30,640
Speaker 3: We'll come up on the break. So I want to

2928
02:54:30,680 --> 02:54:32,920
Speaker 3: thank you Mama Africa. Brother Zachi, you want to say

2929
02:54:32,959 --> 02:54:33,680
Speaker 3: something real quick?

2930
02:54:34,720 --> 02:54:38,880
Speaker 4: No, I mean, I salute the sisters and I will.

2931
02:54:39,120 --> 02:54:41,280
Speaker 4: That's one of our members getting ready to move her

2932
02:54:41,520 --> 02:54:44,720
Speaker 4: entire family to Ghana, and I would like to get

2933
02:54:44,760 --> 02:54:47,560
Speaker 4: had an info from you, Paul, so that I can

2934
02:54:47,640 --> 02:54:49,400
Speaker 4: put them in touch with her.

2935
02:54:53,400 --> 02:54:57,400
Speaker 17: I will, and I'll send my number to my direct

2936
02:54:57,520 --> 02:55:00,080
Speaker 17: number to Karl and please feel.

2937
02:55:01,520 --> 02:55:02,680
Speaker 5: All right here with them.

2938
02:55:03,400 --> 02:55:06,800
Speaker 3: I will, and you stay up, stay strong, all right,

2939
02:55:06,840 --> 02:55:09,520
Speaker 3: family man, we got to take a quick break. Twenty

2940
02:55:09,560 --> 02:55:11,400
Speaker 3: two minutes away from the top of the hour. Brother

2941
02:55:11,520 --> 02:55:13,720
Speaker 3: Zaki Brewd he's our guest. He's the President General of

2942
02:55:13,720 --> 02:55:16,360
Speaker 3: the Universal of African People's Organization. You want to reach

2943
02:55:16,440 --> 02:55:18,720
Speaker 3: us eight hundred and four to five zero seventy eight

2944
02:55:18,840 --> 02:55:21,480
Speaker 3: seventy six. We'll take your phone calls next and Grand

2945
02:55:21,560 --> 02:55:23,600
Speaker 3: Rising family, thanks for staying with us on this Monday

2946
02:55:23,640 --> 02:55:27,600
Speaker 3: morning with our guests from the Universal People's Organization. African

2947
02:55:27,640 --> 02:55:31,240
Speaker 3: People's Organization, Brother Zaqui Brewdy. They're based in Saint Louis,

2948
02:55:31,520 --> 02:55:35,320
Speaker 3: Brother Zaki another person here. Doctor Shri splits her time

2949
02:55:35,360 --> 02:55:38,760
Speaker 3: between Ghana and Compton. She also says she would call him,

2950
02:55:38,800 --> 02:55:40,600
Speaker 3: but she didn't want to get to emoscheal It. This morning,

2951
02:55:40,840 --> 02:55:44,120
Speaker 3: she said, Brother Akbar, his daughter and his grandson came

2952
02:55:44,160 --> 02:55:46,840
Speaker 3: to her daughter's home going back in twenty fourteen and

2953
02:55:46,920 --> 02:55:48,920
Speaker 3: he says he spoke and his grandson spoke. You know,

2954
02:55:49,040 --> 02:55:52,119
Speaker 3: they've never met him. So she she that was before

2955
02:55:52,440 --> 02:55:55,080
Speaker 3: his daughter passed away. So he says brother. She says,

2956
02:55:55,160 --> 02:55:59,600
Speaker 3: Brother Akbar had time for everyone. So she's also like,

2957
02:55:59,640 --> 02:56:00,800
Speaker 3: I tell you, we've got a lot of people in

2958
02:56:00,879 --> 02:56:03,960
Speaker 3: Ghana who listened to us all the time, and but

2959
02:56:04,040 --> 02:56:05,880
Speaker 3: we've got more people in Niger who listened. But the

2960
02:56:06,040 --> 02:56:08,400
Speaker 3: Nigerians don't interact as much. But I think most of

2961
02:56:08,440 --> 02:56:11,920
Speaker 3: the reason why because most of the Ghanan's expats, but

2962
02:56:12,320 --> 02:56:14,480
Speaker 3: they once she wanted to have her two cents for

2963
02:56:15,800 --> 02:56:19,600
Speaker 3: brother Ocabamahammad, Oh.

2964
02:56:19,480 --> 02:56:22,200
Speaker 4: That's great, and again it just speaks to the kind

2965
02:56:22,240 --> 02:56:25,720
Speaker 4: of influence that he had just not here in this country,

2966
02:56:25,760 --> 02:56:30,440
Speaker 4: but throughout Africa and the diaspora, including Guyana. You know,

2967
02:56:31,200 --> 02:56:35,400
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just he was all around influencers worldwide.

2968
02:56:36,879 --> 02:56:38,720
Speaker 3: But you know what I liked about him, Brother Zaki,

2969
02:56:38,920 --> 02:56:43,279
Speaker 3: and I mentioned this his demeanor. He never flustered, never angry.

2970
02:56:43,640 --> 02:56:45,320
Speaker 3: He was just on the level plane.

2971
02:56:46,480 --> 02:56:50,680
Speaker 25: You know, hey, Carl on some of these trips, how

2972
02:56:50,879 --> 02:56:54,640
Speaker 25: is it mad? How he handled different conflicts. I said

2973
02:56:54,680 --> 02:56:58,160
Speaker 25: he was tougher than me on different situations that he

2974
02:56:58,320 --> 02:56:59,879
Speaker 25: was able to uh read.

2975
02:57:00,520 --> 02:57:01,120
Speaker 20: So he was.

2976
02:57:01,720 --> 02:57:06,640
Speaker 4: He was a conson diplomat for Rial on basic grad

2977
02:57:06,720 --> 02:57:07,440
Speaker 4: throos level.

2978
02:57:07,600 --> 02:57:09,680
Speaker 5: So you know, God just.

2979
02:57:09,760 --> 02:57:13,920
Speaker 4: Blessed them with those kinds of talent and his spirit

2980
02:57:14,040 --> 02:57:16,320
Speaker 4: will lay up forever. And I only live the spirit

2981
02:57:16,400 --> 02:57:17,760
Speaker 4: of brother Akabah Muhammad.

2982
02:57:18,560 --> 02:57:20,280
Speaker 3: And again if those of you haven't met or have

2983
02:57:20,360 --> 02:57:21,640
Speaker 3: a chance to hear him, because he's been on this

2984
02:57:21,680 --> 02:57:25,640
Speaker 3: program several times. Brother Akba was the international represented for

2985
02:57:25,680 --> 02:57:27,800
Speaker 3: the Nation of Islam and minster Fire country. It was

2986
02:57:27,879 --> 02:57:29,680
Speaker 3: kind of like the Secretary of State, kind of like

2987
02:57:30,080 --> 02:57:33,120
Speaker 3: Marco Rubio travel all over the world representing the Minister

2988
02:57:33,520 --> 02:57:35,400
Speaker 3: and the nation to make sure all the Mosca and

2989
02:57:35,800 --> 02:57:38,720
Speaker 3: we're all everything. They have any problems, any issues, he'd

2990
02:57:38,800 --> 02:57:42,640
Speaker 3: resolve them. And I think that helps with his personality.

2991
02:57:42,920 --> 02:57:45,520
Speaker 3: You know, brother Zachi, he definic gets flussy. There's always

2992
02:57:45,560 --> 02:57:48,520
Speaker 3: an answer to every question, there's always a solution to

2993
02:57:48,600 --> 02:57:50,959
Speaker 3: every problem, and he was the one who'd come up

2994
02:57:51,000 --> 02:57:53,920
Speaker 3: with it. So yeah, just a lot of good thoughts

2995
02:57:53,920 --> 02:57:57,600
Speaker 3: about brother brother acabah Mohammad, and.

2996
02:57:57,760 --> 02:58:02,240
Speaker 4: You know what called I have a press useless photo

2997
02:58:02,840 --> 02:58:05,480
Speaker 4: with a couple of them, with him, of course, but

2998
02:58:05,680 --> 02:58:09,640
Speaker 4: also with some other noted peoples that I had touched

2999
02:58:09,720 --> 02:58:14,480
Speaker 4: upon early in the program, including uh doctor Emiry over

3000
02:58:14,680 --> 02:58:18,560
Speaker 4: Dally I was in the photo who was the former

3001
02:58:18,680 --> 02:58:22,920
Speaker 4: leader of the Republic of New Africa, Karme Terray, who

3002
02:58:23,080 --> 02:58:26,320
Speaker 4: Karme Terray was the first person as a young man

3003
02:58:27,879 --> 02:58:30,240
Speaker 4: about coming out of high school. In high school that

3004
02:58:31,200 --> 02:58:36,039
Speaker 4: really flipped my mentality and brought me into the movement,

3005
02:58:36,480 --> 02:58:38,880
Speaker 4: if I may share his story. You know, growing up,

3006
02:58:39,000 --> 02:58:41,640
Speaker 4: I grew up in a very poverty stricken area in

3007
02:58:41,840 --> 02:58:44,960
Speaker 4: East Saint Louis, Illinois, and you know, we had the

3008
02:58:45,080 --> 02:58:48,920
Speaker 4: old black and white TVs which featured a lot of

3009
02:58:49,160 --> 02:58:52,160
Speaker 4: the Long Ranger movies and Tarzan movies. And I was

3010
02:58:52,200 --> 02:58:55,200
Speaker 4: a fan of Tarzan until the Stokely Carmichael came to

3011
02:58:55,280 --> 02:58:58,960
Speaker 4: East Saint Louis. Never forget this. My senior year in

3012
02:58:59,080 --> 02:59:02,760
Speaker 4: high school, and he was teaching us about how this

3013
02:59:02,920 --> 02:59:09,480
Speaker 4: society has glorified like movies like Tarzan and here we are,

3014
02:59:09,560 --> 02:59:12,080
Speaker 4: the people were rooting for a little scraungy white boy

3015
02:59:12,160 --> 02:59:15,800
Speaker 4: into jungle, whooping black folks and controlling the animals. And

3016
02:59:15,920 --> 02:59:18,760
Speaker 4: when he said that, I said, like Malcolm would say,

3017
02:59:19,240 --> 02:59:22,600
Speaker 4: I've been hooked, wink and trigged like him up. And

3018
02:59:22,720 --> 02:59:25,920
Speaker 4: it was him that made that statement that changed my

3019
02:59:26,040 --> 02:59:32,400
Speaker 4: whole mentality. And to that end, I'm on the photo

3020
02:59:32,440 --> 02:59:38,680
Speaker 4: with doctor Mary Overdaling, Kwami tay I Bay Muhammad and

3021
02:59:38,879 --> 02:59:42,880
Speaker 4: Choquait Lumumba, who I had so much respect for who

3022
02:59:42,959 --> 02:59:46,520
Speaker 4: eventually became the mayor of Jackson in the fifties, and

3023
02:59:47,000 --> 02:59:51,199
Speaker 4: just uh all have made the transition. So the last

3024
02:59:51,280 --> 02:59:54,520
Speaker 4: one standing and uh, I guess waiting on mind, guess

3025
02:59:54,680 --> 02:59:58,080
Speaker 4: knowing that my trashed transition would be at some point

3026
02:59:58,120 --> 03:00:00,920
Speaker 4: in time and uh you know the future. But I'm

3027
03:00:01,000 --> 03:00:04,600
Speaker 4: honored to I've been. I call those blessings to be

3028
03:00:04,760 --> 03:00:08,400
Speaker 4: with strong black men who wanted to make a difference

3029
03:00:08,480 --> 03:00:11,720
Speaker 4: in our community. So and Igbab was that one of

3030
03:00:11,800 --> 03:00:13,800
Speaker 4: those outstanding men.

3031
03:00:14,959 --> 03:00:17,520
Speaker 3: He said was twelve a way for that topic. Christian's

3032
03:00:17,560 --> 03:00:21,000
Speaker 3: calling us from Malibruis online one grand rising Christian Young

3033
03:00:21,080 --> 03:00:22,280
Speaker 3: with brother Zaki Burreuti.

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Speaker 22: Hey, good morning, gentlemen, doctor Osbar Muhammed. I saw him

3035
03:00:27,280 --> 03:00:29,960
Speaker 22: back in seventy two or seventy three. He wasn't adopted then,

3036
03:00:30,040 --> 03:00:33,440
Speaker 22: but he was very informative and entertaining. And so when

3037
03:00:33,440 --> 03:00:34,840
Speaker 22: I want to talk about today and I want your

3038
03:00:34,879 --> 03:00:37,960
Speaker 22: opinion on this, we have a German by the name

3039
03:00:38,000 --> 03:00:42,680
Speaker 22: of Jim Clyburn running again. An age is not a factor,

3040
03:00:42,840 --> 03:00:46,720
Speaker 22: but his insight. He's against reparations toll till you straight

3041
03:00:46,760 --> 03:00:49,440
Speaker 22: out I don't want it. And then what they call

3042
03:00:49,560 --> 03:00:52,320
Speaker 22: that when the police shoot somebody in the back over

3043
03:00:52,360 --> 03:00:56,680
Speaker 22: there and put ourselves on out qualified community, he's for that.

3044
03:00:56,920 --> 03:01:00,200
Speaker 22: He's not for our interest And that was one what

3045
03:01:00,320 --> 03:01:02,960
Speaker 22: you have to say when people are propped up and

3046
03:01:03,040 --> 03:01:06,280
Speaker 22: they're not really voting for our interests. Everybody should be

3047
03:01:06,440 --> 03:01:12,040
Speaker 22: going for reparations and qualify the immunity as what you think,

3048
03:01:12,640 --> 03:01:13,560
Speaker 22: how should we proceed?

3049
03:01:16,800 --> 03:01:20,040
Speaker 4: Simple? If you're in that district, then you need to

3050
03:01:20,120 --> 03:01:23,000
Speaker 4: take up the manto and be a candidate against him,

3051
03:01:23,760 --> 03:01:28,359
Speaker 4: or seek somebody who has an opportunity have that ability

3052
03:01:28,480 --> 03:01:32,200
Speaker 4: to defeat them. We cannot continue to allow those to

3053
03:01:32,320 --> 03:01:35,280
Speaker 4: be in political power. That's against the best interests of

3054
03:01:35,360 --> 03:01:38,280
Speaker 4: our people. And just here in saying there was some

3055
03:01:38,400 --> 03:01:42,360
Speaker 4: product to say at one point a young lady that

3056
03:01:42,520 --> 03:01:45,360
Speaker 4: we had asked to run for a Guion State senator

3057
03:01:45,959 --> 03:01:49,039
Speaker 4: back in twenty sixteen to expose the lack of black

3058
03:01:49,160 --> 03:01:52,600
Speaker 4: representation in the United States Senate. We push what it's

3059
03:01:52,680 --> 03:01:57,080
Speaker 4: called the concept of proportioning political representation, which simple means

3060
03:01:57,120 --> 03:02:00,840
Speaker 4: that whatever precentage we are as a people, national state,

3061
03:02:00,920 --> 03:02:03,160
Speaker 4: and local levels of government, then we shall have that

3062
03:02:03,280 --> 03:02:07,120
Speaker 4: percentage of political power. I dealing with people who love

3063
03:02:07,240 --> 03:02:10,800
Speaker 4: our people and push social policies that will uplift by people.

3064
03:02:11,520 --> 03:02:15,040
Speaker 4: And that sister name was Corey Bush. After her run

3065
03:02:15,160 --> 03:02:20,119
Speaker 4: for US Senate, she challenged the entrenched political leadership here

3066
03:02:20,160 --> 03:02:27,160
Speaker 4: in Saint Louis through William Lacy Clay Junior, and was

3067
03:02:27,240 --> 03:02:32,040
Speaker 4: able to defeat him, although after serving two terms she

3068
03:02:32,240 --> 03:02:37,520
Speaker 4: was defeated by a a PAC deported candidate that they

3069
03:02:37,600 --> 03:02:40,480
Speaker 4: spent twelve million dollars to defeat her because she took

3070
03:02:40,560 --> 03:02:45,320
Speaker 4: a principal position against the slaughter and genocide taking place

3071
03:02:45,440 --> 03:02:51,360
Speaker 4: in Gaza. So I strongly would encourage you. We got

3072
03:02:51,480 --> 03:02:55,360
Speaker 4: to start with self. If you have a political sway

3073
03:02:55,720 --> 03:02:59,200
Speaker 4: in that district, then you need to step up to

3074
03:02:59,320 --> 03:03:02,400
Speaker 4: the place and out or get somebody to step up

3075
03:03:02,440 --> 03:03:05,720
Speaker 4: to play that challenge him based on what you're just seeing.

3076
03:03:07,400 --> 03:03:10,440
Speaker 22: One more thing, is Nick still on Nettle Bridge over there?

3077
03:03:11,600 --> 03:03:15,440
Speaker 4: N Now Nick's been closed for a minute.

3078
03:03:17,560 --> 03:03:18,560
Speaker 22: I have a good day, gentlemen.

3079
03:03:19,120 --> 03:03:21,800
Speaker 3: All right, thanks Christian. You know what Christian mentioned though,

3080
03:03:21,879 --> 03:03:25,560
Speaker 3: and you responded with Corey Bush and a pak got

3081
03:03:25,640 --> 03:03:29,000
Speaker 3: in the fight and defeated just by throwing money to

3082
03:03:29,320 --> 03:03:32,879
Speaker 3: her opponent. What makes it she think or you think

3083
03:03:33,040 --> 03:03:34,800
Speaker 3: it's going to be a different this time around, and

3084
03:03:35,080 --> 03:03:37,400
Speaker 3: they know she's running again and they're still going to

3085
03:03:37,440 --> 03:03:40,360
Speaker 3: field a candidate, and they with a lot of cash

3086
03:03:40,440 --> 03:03:43,640
Speaker 3: from a pack and and you know, how can she

3087
03:03:43,760 --> 03:03:46,680
Speaker 3: how can she go up against that? Is it money?

3088
03:03:47,160 --> 03:03:48,600
Speaker 3: Is it taking the advantage?

3089
03:03:48,640 --> 03:03:48,760
Speaker 15: Now?

3090
03:03:48,879 --> 03:03:51,160
Speaker 3: These are these congressional races. How do you see that?

3091
03:03:51,800 --> 03:03:55,879
Speaker 4: Well, you know, on the real side, money does influence elections,

3092
03:03:55,959 --> 03:03:58,120
Speaker 4: and that's why it should be a limit on the

3093
03:03:58,120 --> 03:04:02,320
Speaker 4: amount of money spent different and offices, which of course

3094
03:04:02,360 --> 03:04:05,960
Speaker 4: they were struck down by Supreme court to allow. So

3095
03:04:06,160 --> 03:04:09,160
Speaker 4: you know, in terms of the reality of American elections,

3096
03:04:09,800 --> 03:04:14,840
Speaker 4: many elections are actually bout and paid for and due

3097
03:04:14,959 --> 03:04:18,360
Speaker 4: candidates that really don't represent our interests. But if we

3098
03:04:18,440 --> 03:04:22,400
Speaker 4: don't do nothing, then it's are challenges. Then it's guaranteed

3099
03:04:22,520 --> 03:04:25,120
Speaker 4: that the same thing, don't care over and over again.

3100
03:04:26,160 --> 03:04:30,880
Speaker 4: In this instance with Corey, perfectly, it would be many

3101
03:04:30,920 --> 03:04:34,119
Speaker 4: people were not aware of the amount sadly to say

3102
03:04:34,840 --> 03:04:37,600
Speaker 4: they were not aware of the amount of money that

3103
03:04:37,879 --> 03:04:43,520
Speaker 4: was spent by Apak, a Zionis oriented organization for Israel

3104
03:04:44,640 --> 03:04:50,560
Speaker 4: that has now become much more knowledgeable in the community

3105
03:04:51,760 --> 03:04:56,640
Speaker 4: as well as people see that he has not really

3106
03:04:56,760 --> 03:05:01,880
Speaker 4: taken a lot of principal positions for our people that

3107
03:05:02,040 --> 03:05:05,720
Speaker 4: we just it's our duties just to challenge and see

3108
03:05:05,760 --> 03:05:08,880
Speaker 4: what happens. Like I say, if you don't do anything,

3109
03:05:09,600 --> 03:05:12,480
Speaker 4: then it's guaranteed him be in the office. So she

3110
03:05:12,640 --> 03:05:17,800
Speaker 4: has kicked off her campaign. She's out here among the people.

3111
03:05:18,360 --> 03:05:22,440
Speaker 4: In fact, her district covers two areas, Saint Louis City

3112
03:05:22,680 --> 03:05:27,440
Speaker 4: and Saint Louis County and municipalities. She actually had more

3113
03:05:27,600 --> 03:05:31,480
Speaker 4: votes in the city than in the county, and so

3114
03:05:31,680 --> 03:05:35,440
Speaker 4: she's trying to target that area. So you know, we're

3115
03:05:35,600 --> 03:05:39,560
Speaker 4: just with hard work. As I mentioned, she shocked the

3116
03:05:39,680 --> 03:05:45,080
Speaker 4: political partners by defeating the first entrenched elected official from

3117
03:05:45,120 --> 03:05:49,400
Speaker 4: the first Congression district. Hopefully she can be victorious in

3118
03:05:49,520 --> 03:05:51,720
Speaker 4: this upcoming primary election.

3119
03:05:52,440 --> 03:05:54,119
Speaker 3: We got about too many slavets. I want to ask

3120
03:05:54,160 --> 03:05:56,360
Speaker 3: you about Cuba. Your thoughts on what's going on in Cuba.

3121
03:05:57,200 --> 03:06:00,840
Speaker 4: You but this government, just like it has Iran, is

3122
03:06:00,879 --> 03:06:04,880
Speaker 4: trying to strangulate Cuba and want to remind people it

3123
03:06:05,040 --> 03:06:12,040
Speaker 4: was Cuba that allowed escholarship caused safe haven in that

3124
03:06:12,240 --> 03:06:15,960
Speaker 4: country after tremendous pressure by this government to have her

3125
03:06:16,160 --> 03:06:20,080
Speaker 4: extradited back to the United States. It was Cuba that

3126
03:06:20,280 --> 03:06:25,520
Speaker 4: sent troops to Angola as the freedom fighters in Angola

3127
03:06:25,560 --> 03:06:29,360
Speaker 4: were trying to overthrow the races that had control of

3128
03:06:29,560 --> 03:06:35,840
Speaker 4: and Golda and led to actually South Africa being able

3129
03:06:35,920 --> 03:06:39,400
Speaker 4: to elect its first president, Nasa Mandela, who as he

3130
03:06:39,480 --> 03:06:43,200
Speaker 4: got out of prison, went to Cuba to thank p

3131
03:06:43,400 --> 03:06:46,879
Speaker 4: They Castro for his work in Africa. It has been

3132
03:06:47,000 --> 03:06:52,720
Speaker 4: Cuba that opened up a international school of medicine free

3133
03:06:52,760 --> 03:06:56,880
Speaker 4: of charge, as well as created medical brigades that have

3134
03:06:57,040 --> 03:07:01,000
Speaker 4: went to different African countries free car is to provide

3135
03:07:01,160 --> 03:07:05,160
Speaker 4: and not as Africa their Latin American countries to have

3136
03:07:05,800 --> 03:07:10,480
Speaker 4: uplift the medical conditions of the impoverished people in different countries.

3137
03:07:10,959 --> 03:07:15,080
Speaker 4: So it is our duty. And Cuba has a large

3138
03:07:15,200 --> 03:07:19,440
Speaker 4: percentage of black people. I believe really at this point

3139
03:07:19,560 --> 03:07:23,200
Speaker 4: up to sixty percent, that we cannot sit back and

3140
03:07:23,520 --> 03:07:26,879
Speaker 4: allow this government with our struggle against what they're doing

3141
03:07:27,400 --> 03:07:31,280
Speaker 4: to strangulate Cuba and how they strangle in Cuba that

3142
03:07:31,360 --> 03:07:35,520
Speaker 4: are now are not allowing to their embargo, that they

3143
03:07:35,560 --> 03:07:41,800
Speaker 4: are tightened up under this mad man named Trump, their

3144
03:07:42,000 --> 03:07:47,800
Speaker 4: ability to receive all and other necessary products on the island,

3145
03:07:48,240 --> 03:07:52,440
Speaker 4: causing greater hardship on the people. So we say no

3146
03:07:52,640 --> 03:07:57,720
Speaker 4: war on Cuba. We also say in the war on Iran,

3147
03:07:58,520 --> 03:08:04,000
Speaker 4: and that regime regime changed right here in this country

3148
03:08:04,560 --> 03:08:09,200
Speaker 4: by getting rid of a pedophile president who had been

3149
03:08:09,400 --> 03:08:13,920
Speaker 4: convicted on thirty four counts as well as lost a

3150
03:08:14,200 --> 03:08:20,320
Speaker 4: major civil case through e Carroll who accused him of

3151
03:08:20,600 --> 03:08:26,920
Speaker 4: defaming her and it's actually assaulting her. So that's what

3152
03:08:27,040 --> 03:08:29,800
Speaker 4: we're up against. So that means, as Kwamit Toad was

3153
03:08:29,959 --> 03:08:36,760
Speaker 4: always say, we got to tighten up our game and organized, organized, organized, right,

3154
03:08:37,240 --> 03:08:37,680
Speaker 4: and we're.

3155
03:08:37,600 --> 03:08:39,560
Speaker 3: Just about flat out of town. If folks want to

3156
03:08:39,600 --> 03:08:42,920
Speaker 3: help you at the Universal African People's Organization in Saint Louis,

3157
03:08:42,920 --> 03:08:44,520
Speaker 3: how do they game touch with your brother Zaki.

3158
03:08:45,560 --> 03:08:48,600
Speaker 4: Two ways they can give. I always put out my

3159
03:08:49,240 --> 03:08:54,400
Speaker 4: home number. I mean my sale number three one, four four, seven,

3160
03:08:54,680 --> 03:08:59,880
Speaker 4: seven forty six twenty nine are our office number one

3161
03:09:00,200 --> 03:09:05,039
Speaker 4: for eight three three four one five one as well

3162
03:09:05,120 --> 03:09:11,520
Speaker 4: as our website is www dot you UAPO dot org.

3163
03:09:12,160 --> 03:09:18,840
Speaker 4: And we have a YouTube station you APO news World

3164
03:09:19,560 --> 03:09:25,760
Speaker 4: where we have a conversation similar to you interviewing different

3165
03:09:25,840 --> 03:09:30,320
Speaker 4: people and it's called Conversation with Zaqui BLUI got you.

3166
03:09:30,520 --> 03:09:32,560
Speaker 3: Thanks Zaki, thank you for sharing your thoughts with us

3167
03:09:32,600 --> 03:09:33,040
Speaker 3: this morning.

3168
03:09:34,120 --> 03:09:36,320
Speaker 4: All right, thank you Carl. Keep up the great work

3169
03:09:36,640 --> 03:09:39,480
Speaker 4: and work and make God continue to bless you. Carl.

3170
03:09:39,560 --> 03:09:43,360
Speaker 4: You know you're so necessary for the uplifting of our race.

3171
03:09:43,920 --> 03:09:46,360
Speaker 3: Okay, all righty, thank you for the kind words. So

3172
03:09:46,440 --> 03:09:47,960
Speaker 3: before we go, family, I just want to remind you

3173
03:09:48,040 --> 03:09:50,680
Speaker 3: to vote for connect Newman, that's our colleague over a

3174
03:09:50,800 --> 03:09:53,120
Speaker 3: TV once she's in a competition. Just go to my

3175
03:09:53,800 --> 03:09:56,160
Speaker 3: Facebook account and you can vote there and can vart

3176
03:09:56,160 --> 03:09:57,720
Speaker 3: as many times as you want as well. So make

3177
03:09:57,760 --> 03:10:00,080
Speaker 3: sure you do that for sister connect all right, fa hey,

3178
03:10:00,160 --> 03:10:04,039
Speaker 3: let's get out of here. Classes dismissed. Stay strong, stay positive,

3179
03:10:04,520 --> 03:10:06,760
Speaker 3: please stay healthy. We'll see you tomorrow morning, six o'clock

3180
03:10:06,840 --> 03:10:09,880
Speaker 3: right here in Baltimore on ten ten WLB and also

3181
03:10:09,959 --> 03:10:14,560
Speaker 3: on the DMV on fourteen fifty WL. Where Information is

3182
03:10:14,720 --> 03:10:15,039
Speaker 3: Power