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Speaker 1: and we bring in our next guest. Happy to talk

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Speaker 1: to him, looking forward to Kevin's really looking forward to it,

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Speaker 1: of course, Jordan Cornett, former Notre Dame player. Now you

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Speaker 1: most recently with Westwood One covering the NCAA tournament, and

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Speaker 1: Good morning, Jordan Cornette.

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Speaker 2: How you doing, guys.

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Speaker 3: It's a great day to be a live more college

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Speaker 3: It's great to be on with you guys.

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Speaker 1: Well, we are very happy to have you on here.

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Speaker 1: And we'll just start off with a kind of a

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Speaker 1: ten thousand foot look at Purdue right now. They've won

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Speaker 2: It's been very clear. It's been defense.

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Speaker 3: Especially with the core group that they have returning. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I've seen a team commitment to establishing him on a

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Speaker 2: Guys, this has been a look.

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Speaker 3: Oscar Cluff provides a great deal. He's a bully on

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Speaker 3: It's a full facelift that is going on right there

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Speaker 3: Ronald is such a brilliant basketball mind, such a great

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Speaker 2: Well, all that's coming.

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Speaker 2: Need to go. Jordan.

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Speaker 5: One of my fondest memories growing up. I am an

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Speaker 3: Kevin, let's start with I mean you rattling off all

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go, Jordan, come on, let's go on.

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Speaker 5: Didn't you have a huge now now, Craig, didn't you

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Speaker 2: But here on Notre Dame.

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Speaker 3: The thing about Notre Dame right now, I'm getting a

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Speaker 1: Who's having more fun than you right now watching college

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, this is the best time of the year.

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Speaker 2: We are still here. Well, the genesis of.

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Speaker 2: So it's awesome.

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Speaker 3: Guys, I didn't you probably didn't expect that loaded of

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Speaker 5: I think about that way too often. So uh, it

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Speaker 2: Oh man, that that gets me. That gets me emotional. Man.

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Speaker 3: He loved people, and he loved the game, and he

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Speaker 3: Not a place you go where my brother once once roamed,

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Speaker 3: Like, my brother just loves people. And I think this

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Speaker 2: I just he was special. He was just a good person.

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Speaker 3: So I think for everybody out there, like smile today,

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Speaker 1: Gonna get me emotional.

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Speaker 3: Jordan, thank you, Yeah, man, I appreciate you guys bringing

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Speaker 3: Know, careers being made, careers ending, the emotions and the

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Speaker 2: Of a beautiful sport, a great season. I love this

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you and have fun at the game, and

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Speaker 1: Thanks Jordan Cornett, he's working with Westwood One and it's

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Speaker 1: Purdue Texas later on tonight at seven ten pm. We

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