1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: So Chuck Schumer with the chat two. He is not 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: happy at all. 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: With the information received regarding the the hits on these Venezuelan. 4 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: Drug boats. Oh, he's angry and upset. 5 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 2: And I went to the hill and I he came 6 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: to the Hill and he spoke to us, and well, well, Ook. 7 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 3: I reiterated my demand of Secretary Hegseth in front of 8 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 3: all hundred Senators that he allow every senator to see 9 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 3: the unedited version, the unedited video of what happened on 10 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 3: September two. 11 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 1: He refused. 12 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 3: The administration came to this briefing empty handed. That's the 13 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 3: major question that we face. And if they can't be 14 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 3: transparent on this, how can you trust their transparency on 15 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 3: all the other issues swirling about in the Caribbean. 16 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with you. 17 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: Let's not confuse our issues when it comes to Venezuela. 18 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 2: Let us not confuse realities. First, the president of the 19 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: United States can put military assets anywhere the president chooses. Second, 20 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 2: it is very clear and obvious to any person that 21 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 2: a pressure campaign is in place to try and remove 22 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 2: Maduro from power. There has been no talk of although 23 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: there has been I should I shouldn't say that there's 24 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: been no action of any ground forces or any movement 25 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: to physically remove Maduro from office. Trump has said things 26 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 2: could happen by land. Those were his words, not mine, 27 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 2: and I said, well, that's a starting gun, but you know, 28 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 2: and nothing has taken place there. He has labeled Maduro 29 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 2: this uh narco terrorist. I mean, it's it's it's very 30 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: very clear what the objective is. Earlier today, I was 31 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 2: on Newsmax, and on Newsmax, I was on with Wallet Ferris, 32 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 2: and we were both the the guests there, and I 33 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: believe it's Shannon Cake who was asking Sharon Cake who 34 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: was asking the questions, and we were both engaged in 35 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 2: this conversation or. 36 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,079 Speaker 4: Drug boat strikes. Taking a look at that video, the 37 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 4: Pentagon releasing it overnight on social media. So US Southern Command, 38 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 4: doctor Ferris, let's start with you saying that these boats 39 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 4: were transiting along known narco trafficking routes and engaged in 40 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 4: narco trafficking. There are words already we're hearing the pushback 41 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 4: this morning from the international community, the BBC this morning 42 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 4: suggesting this this is a planned systematic attack against civilians 43 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 4: during peacetime. Our president just yesterday from the Oval calling 44 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 4: Fentnyl this weapon. 45 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: Of mass destruction. 46 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 4: Now, while lead does he have a right to protect his. 47 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 5: Border absolutely, first of all by executive orders. Second of all, 48 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 5: this is a threat has been continued to be a threat, 49 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 5: not against the bureaucrats in Brussels or London or Paris, 50 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 5: but against our people. Tens of thousands of people have 51 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 5: died from this element. But now what we see that 52 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 5: the administration is not just containing that wave coming from 53 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 5: Venezuela in the Caribbean. We may have a point to 54 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 5: see the same thing happening in specific, which means that 55 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 5: there is a widening of the operation and something else. 56 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 5: The Pentagon, as fought as we know, has organized a 57 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 5: command specifically for the homeland and the whole hemisphere. So 58 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 5: it's not just a point about Venezuela. Any threat coming 59 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 5: from anywhere with these drug lords will be confronted. 60 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 2: Now that conversation leads to something we've been talking about 61 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: with the idea of the not the reinvention, the re 62 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 2: implementation of Monroe doctrine, that the Western hemisphere is ours, 63 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: and we will control it, and we will dictate, and 64 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 2: we will do anything we need to within our hemisphere 65 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: to protect ourselves, and we're not very interested in what 66 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 2: anybody else says. And a large part of what we're 67 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 2: seeing is exactly that. 68 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: So when you see these arguments from people. 69 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 2: Like Chuck Schumer, who, as I stated, just have are 70 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 2: just infuriated. 71 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 3: Every Senator is entitled to see it if there is 72 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 3: no problem with sources and methods, because the senators will 73 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 3: see it in the skiff. I also believe that every 74 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 3: American should see an appropriate version of this. The of 75 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 3: the unedited, well, they should see an appropriate version of 76 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 3: what happened on September. The second I saw it, it. 77 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: Was deeply troubling. I don't believe you when you say 78 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: it's deeply troubling, not at all. The question is do Americans. 79 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: Have an issue with what is happening with the bombing 80 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 2: of these drug boats. 81 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, and we're starting to hear the rumblings, you know, 82 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 4: in the last few weeks, Tony, that lawmakers want to 83 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 4: know more. Pete Hegseth and Marc Rubio will be on 84 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 4: the Hill today answering some questions. It'll be a classified briefing, 85 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 4: so the press won't be in on this. But with 86 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,239 Speaker 4: so much pushback globally here at home, it is time, 87 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 4: do you think or do you think it's time for 88 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 4: the President to go to Congress and get a war 89 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 4: declaration here? 90 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: If Congress thought it was time, Congress would be asking. 91 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: Congress hasn't asked for it. I think that's an extremely 92 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 1: important note here. There's been grumblings. 93 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 2: There's been people who have said things because it's good 94 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 2: to say things on cable news or other places, because 95 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 2: it allows you to complain and allows you to be angry. 96 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 1: It allows you to get a sound bite. 97 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: But if Congress was truly bothered, Congress would say, you're 98 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 2: engaged in an active war. Now you'd have to ask, 99 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 2: what is the act of war. It can't be eleven 100 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: warships in the Caribbean and fifteen thousand troops. The President 101 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 2: can assign the troops wherever it is he chooses. It 102 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 2: would have to be whether or not the taking out 103 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 2: of these drug boats. 104 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: Is considered an act of war. 105 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 2: Certainly out are of court a public opinion. That isn't 106 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 2: how Americans see it. 107 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: In the main. They see this as. 108 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 2: A matter of safety and security. Now there's a conversation 109 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 2: about regime change and going to grounds. Well, that's a 110 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: different conversation altogether. But right now all we have are 111 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 2: grumm from members of Congress who want to use this politically, 112 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 2: as opposed to saying, we have a constitutional responsibility and 113 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 2: a mandate here you have to come to us. We 114 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 2: now demand that you come to us and proactively declare 115 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 2: war on Venezuela. I don't see that coming. That to 116 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 2: me is the fundamental argument. What her question's fine. It 117 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 2: was my first time doing this actual show on NEWSBAX. 118 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 2: I liked it quite a bit. We got deep. It 119 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 2: was fantastic. The question is should Trump go to Congress? 120 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: That that's the wrong way to look at it. No President, 121 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 2: whether you like it or not, we're talking about Republicans, Democrats. 122 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter how you want to visualize it until 123 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 2: your politics in this in this part of it means zero. 124 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: No President none wants to be told. 125 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 2: Can't act as the commander in chief. Being the commander 126 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 2: in chief is the most awesome part of the job. 127 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 2: It's like the Bill Hicks routine. Hey what does B 128 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 2: twelve do? And they press the button and something explodes 129 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 2: and they go cool, what does B thirteen do? 130 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: It's a fantastic routine. The late great Bill Hicks doesn't 131 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: better than I. 132 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 2: Of course, you're not gonna go to Congress and say 133 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 2: is this okay. They're going to act with the full 134 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 2: authority that they believe they have. It is for Congress 135 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 2: to say, you are going down a road that we 136 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 2: have not approved. This is our responsibility, and you must 137 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 2: now come to us. 138 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: We demand it. That's the story. 139 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 2: And when you hear Chuck Schumer complain about, for example, these. 140 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 3: Videos in my Gang of Eight meeting last week, I 141 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 3: asked Secretary headsif let every senator see it. He said 142 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 3: he'd think about it today. He came up with no 143 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 3: answer and no tape. His reasoning was that it might 144 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 3: give things away that shouldn't be I respect classification. When 145 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 3: you do it in the skiff, that argument is undercut. 146 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 3: It's just with senators in the skiff. 147 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 2: A skiff secure compartmentized information facility. 148 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's intelligence facility. 149 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 5: Uh. 150 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 2: It's a place where you can share this classified information 151 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 2: and doesn't make the light of day, and you can't 152 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 2: be Sandy Berger. 153 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: And stuff and stuff down your socks and all that jazz. 154 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: I do not mind. 155 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: The members getting the information, I must admit, I just 156 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 2: know how it's going to play out, like you do. 157 00:09:51,640 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: They asked this question to Senator Lindsey Graham. 158 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: I think I think it should be I think the 159 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: video should be given, as everybody knows. 160 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 6: You know, the least of my concerns is a springing 161 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 6: video release it. 162 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: Make your own decisions. This is lawful. I have every 163 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: confidence of what they're doing. It's no different than what 164 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: Bush did. 165 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 6: Nobody in the Congress accused the military leadership under President 166 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 6: Bush forty one of being a war criminal for invading 167 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 6: the Panama without Congress fathers. 168 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 2: For a second here, I thought I thought Lindsay Graham 169 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 2: was gonna go to four letter world. 170 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: In that. I think Lindsay Graham makes a point that's 171 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: worth noting. I don't believe that or I should say 172 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: it this way. 173 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 2: The reason the Congress has not acted and Democrats aren't 174 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 2: demanding the president come and declare war is that, as 175 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 2: I stated they're. 176 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 1: On Newsmax, Democrats are fine with all this. They get 177 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: to take out the drug boats, which I. 178 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 2: Think they're a little bit fine with, and they get 179 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 2: to complain that the president is acting recklessly to win win. 180 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: I think that Lindsey Graham's argument of. 181 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 2: Release the videos works for me also working for me 182 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 2: not releasing the videos, because this specifically is about a 183 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 2: video on September second where there was something done called 184 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:46,719 Speaker 2: a double tap. So they hit the boat, there were survivors, 185 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 2: there was still a boat, they hit it again. The 186 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 2: story was then relayed that you had the US military 187 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 2: making the claim, oh my gosh, they're still survivors. What 188 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 2: should we do at Pete Hegseth said, go back and 189 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 2: kill them, kill them until they die, make their children 190 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 2: and scream and cry, let them look at their blood 191 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 2: and laugh like it. 192 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 1: Was in insane type of thing. 193 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,359 Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody actually sound That was actually 194 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 2: my impression of Maizie Herona. 195 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: Not bad, not bad, don't fed at all, thinking about 196 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: going pro. 197 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 2: Jeff Dunham's looking for an opening act. The argument is 198 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 2: that somehow something horrific and nefarious happened with this idea 199 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 2: of going back. Now, what we learned after that Washington 200 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 2: Post reporting was that people who were not killed when 201 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 2: the drug boat was hit were climbing back onto what 202 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 2: remained of the boat and trying to get the drugs 203 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 2: together and then warning other people. 204 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: What was happening. 205 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 2: Are they still some level of enemy or engaged in 206 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 2: some level of combat with the United States at that moment, 207 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 2: point about the court of public opinion really stands. Americans 208 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 2: don't care. Keep the drugs out of our life. President 209 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 2: Trump now wants to describe fentanyl as a weapon of 210 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 2: mass destruction. 211 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 1: Americans are gonna be fine with that. This stuff's a killer, absolutely. 212 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 6: So. 213 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 2: I think Democrats just want to complain to complain, at 214 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 2: least that's. 215 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: The case right now. Keep it here. This is Tony 216 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: Katz today.