1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: So our attorney, our attorney generals. 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 2: Look, I'm load to say anything nice about Todd Roketa, 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 2: I know, but one thing I will say about Rokeita 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: that I kind of enjoy because well, I wouldn't exactly. 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: Use those words. 6 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 2: He can't let anything go because I see that when 7 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: I look in the mirror, does sound. 8 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 3: Like anyone you know, these two things are very similar. 9 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 2: Well, it's okay, So this is I was telling you 10 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:35,639 Speaker 2: this this morning. One of the one of the things 11 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 2: about Todd Roketa is he is a brawler. Todd raket 12 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 2: Is the Attorney General for the State of Indiana. Also 13 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 2: a moron, but a brawler. And a lot of these politicians, 14 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 2: rank and file, regular politicians struggle in terms of how 15 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 2: to deal with a guy like Todd Rokeeda because they 16 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: don't understand the premise from which he operates, and that is, 17 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 2: he can't ever lose. He just exists to fight. And 18 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 2: if you're going to engage with someone who just exists 19 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: to fight, it's the I'm sure people have seen the meme. 20 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 2: Randy marsh is the dad on South Park and there's 21 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 2: a famous meme of him all messed up. He got 22 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 2: the script or The premise of the episode is he 23 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 2: gets in a fight at his kids' little league games 24 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 2: and he keeps getting hauled out by the cops, and 25 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 2: the line is, I didn't hear no bell. And I'm 26 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: sure you've seen the meme of him. He's all messed 27 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 2: up and you know his eyes are beaten shut. I 28 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: didn't hear no bell. That's Rokeita, right, he is the idol. 29 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:37,199 Speaker 1: I didn't hear no bell. 30 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 3: Guys, He's just gonna keep going. 31 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 2: And if you're going to engage in any sort of 32 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 2: public conflict with him, you have to accept the fact 33 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 2: that you can't ever defeat him because he's never going 34 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: to stop. And Senator Liz Brown from Fort Wayne is 35 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: finding this out the hard way. She doesn't seem to 36 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 2: grasp that that you, if you choose to, it's why 37 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 2: we we always win. 38 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: We are that we didn't hear no Bell, guy, and. 39 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 2: That's why we beat these politicians all the time. They 40 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 2: don't understand the rules of the game and the rules 41 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 2: of engagement. And she, she being Liz Brown, this powerful 42 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: senator from Fort Wayne, continues to think she can operate 43 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 2: under normal political procedure against Todd Rokeita and it ain't 44 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:21,399 Speaker 2: gonna work. 45 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 3: Well, the thing is, most people are interested in getting 46 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 3: the win. There are some people who are more interested 47 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 3: in the fight, and that's something that you were told 48 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 3: Rokey to have in common. 49 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: So what we're talking about here is Tom Holman, who 50 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 2: is the border Guru, the borders are, whatever his technical 51 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 2: name is. He is in charge of getting illegal immigration 52 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 2: under control in this country. And while we have been 53 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 2: very critical of the Trump administration's handling of economic issues, 54 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 2: one thing I think every reasonable person would say is 55 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: the border is infinitely better under Donald Trump than it 56 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 2: was under Joe Biden. 57 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, so Donald Trump gave Tom Holman three main tasks, 58 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 3: secure the border, run the largest deportation operation, and then 59 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 3: find three hundred thousand missing migrant children. 60 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 2: And it's it's I mean, it's incredible lift given the 61 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 2: position that Biden put this country in in terms of 62 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 2: just do drop in policy as it related to illegal immigration. 63 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 2: But Tom Holman was here yesterday and was speaking to 64 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 2: the Indiana General Assembly. 65 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: He was speaking. 66 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 2: Now, they this was supposed to be as MI understanding, 67 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: some sort of public event, but then they just pulled 68 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: it into the chambers. 69 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, they closed it to the public and the media, 70 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 3: although they did live stream, which. 71 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: That was kind of a bad move. 72 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 2: Like you said, they did live stream, but to the 73 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 2: average person that looks like an avoidance of transparency or 74 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: we don't want to deal with the protesters or whatever. 75 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: But so he gives this speech. 76 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 2: Rokita is there and they start talking about this House 77 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 2: Bill fifteen thirty one, and it's better known as the 78 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 2: Fairness Act, and it dealt with illegal immigration. It basically 79 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 2: put the onus on state, local, federal authorities in the 80 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 2: state of Indiana on specific ways in which you had 81 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 2: to deal with apprehending put I think the technical description 82 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 2: And by the way, if you want to read all this, 83 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 2: Capital Chronicle or Friends of Capital Chronicle at a big 84 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 2: write up on all of this yesterday, potentially dangerous aliens. 85 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 2: And Liz Brown is a very powerful, long standing Senator 86 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 2: from the city of Fort Wayne. She's a Rhino. She's 87 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: a Republican in name only, but technically hasn't. She's a 88 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 2: Republican in good standing, the lady who killed the illegal 89 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 2: immigration bill. She's a Republican a good standing. But me, no, 90 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 2: if I were to tell you shouldn't vote for someone 91 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 2: who kills the illegal immigration bill that I would not 92 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 2: be a Republican a good standing welcome to the Indiana 93 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 2: Republican Party. So she was the head of this committee 94 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 2: let this past session that was hearing this bill. And 95 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 2: in the state of Indiana, these committee heads have basically 96 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 2: infinite power. If you're a commit Now they report to 97 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 2: the Speaker of the House or the pro tem of 98 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 2: the Senate. They're you know, accountable to them. They are 99 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 2: not a lot of times not doing anything that hasn't 100 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 2: been preapproved, but things basically live and die based on 101 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:28,679 Speaker 2: their orders. She swatted this bill down, and then Todd 102 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 2: Rokeita made her public enemy number one up to and 103 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 2: including didn't he say that she told him she killed 104 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 2: the bill because there was an illegal immigrant in her family. 105 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 3: In her family or somebody within her family knows somebody or. 106 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,119 Speaker 2: And then she vehemently denied that. She slapped a complain 107 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 2: against him with the Disciplinary Commission. And so Rokeita did 108 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 2: it again. 109 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 1: He did kisterd Day. 110 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 2: Holman's here talking about this bill and how it helped 111 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 2: the federal governor blah blah blah, and then Rokeita is 112 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 2: there and he starts going at Liz Brown. 113 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 3: Yep, he did it again. So this bill, it passed 114 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 3: the House sixty four to twenty six, died in the 115 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 3: Senate with no hearing. Rokeeda blamed Liz Brown for blocking it. 116 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 3: Now Representative JD. Prescott allegedly plans to reintroduce the bill 117 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 3: in January, but Holman was urging them to help President Trump. 118 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 3: It's a great bill, get back to it now. Liz 119 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,239 Speaker 3: Brown was on with Tony Katz this morning and again 120 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 3: she denied it. Yeah, and this is he was like, well, 121 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 3: where did this come from? 122 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: Well, and this is the problem. You have to know 123 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: how to deal with Rokeeda. Why does Rokeeda hate us? 124 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 2: Because we know how to deal with him, because brawler 125 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 2: knows a brawler and I know what I'm dealing with 126 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 2: with Todd Rokeeda. He's not ever going to get anything 127 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 2: over on this program because we know exactly how to 128 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 2: deal with him, and these politicians do not, Which is 129 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 2: why Rokeita has been so five as a politician. Other 130 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 2: than this, the US Senate implosion, in which, for some 131 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,559 Speaker 2: bizarre reason, he thought he was going to morph into 132 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: Donald Trump in real time and run the most ridiculous 133 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 2: campaign ever, Todd Rokeeda is essentially undefeated in running for 134 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 2: public office because he knows how to bully and beat 135 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 2: these people around, and they don't know how to respond. 136 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 2: And she's fallen right into his trap again. And it's 137 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 2: kind of funny to watch from afar and see these 138 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 2: people take de bait every single time. 139 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 3: So here is Todd Rokeita. This is yesterday talking about 140 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 3: the Fairness for Hoosiers. 141 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 4: As I said earlier, House Spill fifteen thirty one from 142 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 4: last session easily passed this Chamber sixty four to twenty six, 143 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 4: but was stalled in the Senate Judiciary Committee by Senator 144 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 4: Liz Brown, who refused to even give it a hearing. 145 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 4: That decision set us back at least a full year. 146 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 4: We can't afford further delays. Kendra and her family don't 147 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 4: deserve further delays. Hoosiers elected us to put them first, 148 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 4: demanding secure borders, safe communities, and fair job opportunities. The 149 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 4: Fairness Act delivers on these fronts. It strengthens this anti 150 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 4: sanctuary city law by giving my office more tools to 151 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 4: combat this. And don't forget we already we have two 152 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 4: lawsuits going right now, Saint Joseph against the Saint Joseph 153 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 4: County Sheriff and the Monroe County Sheriff for alleged violations. 154 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: We need to do more. 155 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 3: By the way the Fairness Act, it stands for fostering 156 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 3: and advancing immigration reforms necessary to ensure safety and security. 157 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 2: Okay, my broader question would be, and I'm not asking 158 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: this to be a smart ass, I'm genuinely curious. The 159 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 2: State of Indiana has been in full compliance with the 160 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 2: Fed government up to it, including sign of a massive 161 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 2: deal to use our prison system for illegal immigrants. And 162 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 2: I'm not seeing the headlines of Hey, we're arresting illegal 163 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 2: immigrants every single day and letting them go. Is this 164 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 2: actually on a broad So it's sort of like the 165 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 2: voter fraud thing. Remember Diego Diego. Morales, Secretary of State 166 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 2: comes out with this big announcer, we caught one illegal 167 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 2: immigrant voting one Bigo County. Like, okay, so you spend 168 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 2: how much money to catch one guy? Not saying there 169 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 2: aren't people voting illegally, but is there some broad scale 170 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 2: thing that requires millions of taxpayer dollars to solve? And 171 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 2: so the same question, I would have the same question 172 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 2: as it relates to illegal immigration in the state of Indiana. 173 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 2: Is Indiana such a such a problem that we're catching 174 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 2: huge uh sloths of illegal agreements, huge numbers of illegal immigrants, 175 00:09:58,240 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 2: and we're having to let them go? 176 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: Where way? Does this problem exist somewhere? 177 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 2: If so, show it to me or are we just 178 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,239 Speaker 2: pointing to one or two isolated incidents? 179 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? Is this a really really big issue? Well, according 180 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 3: to Tom Rokita, he said it is, there's no country 181 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 3: and therefore no Indiana. If we don't have a border, 182 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 3: every state is now a border state. That's what he said. 183 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but I get that. But that's what he does. 184 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 2: This is what he does. He's he's the arts. It's 185 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 2: basically victim based politics. Look at how we're being aggrieved. 186 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 2: Look at how we're being the horrible thing that's happening. Okay, 187 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 2: I don't disagree. I'm totally for a secure border, totally 188 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 2: for apprehending all illegal immigrants in this country, sending them 189 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 2: back to their country of origin, not fighting on any 190 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: of that. What I'm asking is are there documented on 191 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 2: a big scale. I'm not talking about you know, one 192 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 2: or two isolated incidents, but is there across the board, 193 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: you know, multiple times, numerous times documented where we're catching 194 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 2: these illegal, illegal immigrants and then they're just being let 195 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 2: back out into decent society here in the state of Indiana. 196 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have those numbers, Rob. 197 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think he does either. 198 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 2: But I still enjoy him taking some some do nothing 199 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 2: senator to the woodshed. 200 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: That is kind of fun. 201 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 3: We do have numbers, a lot of polling numbers. There 202 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 3: were so many polls that came out yesterday. When you 203 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 3: and I were talking yesterday, you were referencing one pole, 204 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 3: I was referencing another. But I think the big picture 205 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 3: is the same across the board, on all the poles. 206 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 3: Let's get into it. It is ninety three WYBC. 207 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:42,599 Speaker 2: So the polling that was out yesterday, Casey was fascinating 208 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: to me. 209 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 3: We're on the wrong track at everything. 210 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: Everybody's doing poorly. 211 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 3: That's the general mood. 212 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: Now. We got into it yesterday with. 213 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 2: With the folks from Independent Indiana and obviously their poll 214 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 2: showed one that the public remains overwhelmingly against redistricting. And 215 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 2: then they also polled on Braun and diego U and 216 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 2: the Braun was, you know what, twenty points under water 217 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 2: in their pole. And then while we were on the 218 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 2: air another one because you were I had not seen 219 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 2: that both sides. 220 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 3: I know, I could tell you were talking about a 221 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 3: different pole than I was. They said the same thing. 222 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 3: The numbers were a little bit different. 223 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, well you were. I was like, what is this 224 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: woman doing? 225 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 2: Does she get internal crosstabs that I haven't seen? 226 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: Like I was just on the air with this guy, 227 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: How did you get them right? 228 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 3: And I was talking about a different pole. 229 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 230 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 3: It was like when it came to Secretary of State 231 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 3: Diego Morales, it was like nine percent favorability, twenty one 232 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 3: percent unfavorable, And I'm like, seventy percent. That doesn't even 233 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 3: know who he is. And you're You're like, what are 234 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 3: you seventy percent? Where did you get that number? 235 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? 236 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 2: So so, but these two balls came out almost at 237 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 2: the exact same time. They both said the same thing. 238 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 2: One who are overwhelming against redistricting? And two the governor 239 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 2: is way underwater. I think it was fourteen and one 240 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 2: almost twenty in another he's got he being brawn has 241 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 2: a major problem because there's nothing he did this session 242 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 2: that he can point to and go, hey, just give 243 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 2: it a few months, give it a year. You're gonna 244 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 2: see things will all be better, so it can only 245 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 2: get worse from here for him. 246 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 3: Well, let's figure this out. Why would that be. What 247 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 3: are they talking about right now? They're talking about redistricting, 248 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 3: keeping themselves in power, right Are they talking about property taxes? 249 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 3: Are they talking about lowering the gas tax? Are they 250 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 3: talking about lowering your electricity bill? Are they talking about 251 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 3: lowering sales tax? No, they raise that. In fact, they're 252 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 3: talking about your income tax. No, nothing that actually helps 253 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 3: the tax payers. The big message that you're hearing is 254 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 3: coming from Washington, DC, and it's not hitting with the averagoosure. 255 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, people don't find value in the Republican Party. I mean, 256 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 2: I think that's the big takeaway here. If people found 257 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 2: value in the Indiana in the way Indiana Republicans are 258 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 2: governing and the way Republicans are governing in Washington, they 259 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 2: would be overwhelmingly in support of this. They would be 260 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 2: storming their rep and senators doors saying please do this. 261 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 2: And what has really become clear, and we've got we 262 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 2: got into this the last couple of days Ethan and 263 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 2: I did, and you and I've talked about this before, 264 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 2: is that the Republicans keep winning because the Democrats in 265 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 2: this state are and nationally are so unelectable to the 266 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 2: people of Indiana. If the Democrats did anything remotely normal, 267 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: they would start winning elections and the Republicans never have 268 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 2: to face wake up call because the Democrats are so bad. 269 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 2: But you see this play out in these polls where 270 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 2: people say, just because we won't vote for the other 271 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 2: guy doesn't mean we don't hate you and what you're 272 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 2: doing right as well. And so I think the big 273 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 2: indictment here is that people are telling you what they 274 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 2: think about Republican based governance by saying, one, we don't 275 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 2: want any more Republicans in Washington, which is what there 276 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 2: would be, which is what they would be doing. And two, 277 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 2: this governor stinks at his job and hasn't been putting 278 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 2: priorities forward that are making our lives better. 279 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: And so we're just done with all of you people. 280 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, he stood in front of a huge 281 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 3: crowd of people and said he was going to fight 282 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 3: for us, and then he turned around and he didn't. 283 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 3: And people are tired of the games. They're putting party 284 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 3: over the people who put them in those positions. I mean, 285 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 3: think about this, what we've had, the agriculture Secretary visit us, 286 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 3: We've had the Vice president visit us twice. The board 287 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 3: has now come is that helping you in your daily life. 288 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 3: Their message is so about the party and not about 289 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 3: the people. 290 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so we're gonna have Ryan Hendrick from the 291 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 2: WBC newsroom next because a bunch of stuff on Mark Sanchez. 292 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 2: Jim Merrit will be with us at ten thirty today 293 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 2: and we're going to talk about that because that is 294 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 2: what these Republicans like. I don't even know if they care. 295 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 2: I don't think if they don't understand. I think they 296 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 2: don't care because they don't fear losing. Most of them 297 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 2: don't fear losing. Like, Okay, so I do this and 298 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 2: it's unpopular. Well, you've already, in a post COVID world, 299 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 2: laid down the line in the sand that no matter 300 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 2: what I do to you, you're going to keep voting Republican. 301 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 2: Which comes back to what my argument has been for 302 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 2: a long time, which is if you want this to change, 303 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: you have to let these Republicans lose some elections. It 304 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 2: starts next year with the Secretary of States race. The 305 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 2: number one thing if you want to crack this Republican 306 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: cabal and you want to send a message to these 307 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 2: people that you're done just voting for them, no matter 308 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,479 Speaker 2: what a horrible rotten thing they do, or horrible rotten 309 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 2: elected official or candidate they put in front of you. 310 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 1: You have to stop. You have to. 311 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 2: Stop giving them that that, you know, impression or not impression, 312 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 2: but reality, that that's what you'll do, no matter what 313 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 2: bad the Republicans do. You're still saying, well, the Democrats 314 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 2: might be worse, so I'll just vote for you, regardless of. 315 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: Course they're going to abuse you as a taxpayer. 316 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 3: It seems like Bobai is getting some nice donations. You 317 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 3: got three hundred thousand from somebody, Yeah, from somebody. 318 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 2: We need more rich friends. Now here's what I will 319 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 2: say about this, Because people were this guy who gave 320 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 2: him three hundred thousand dollars from Connecticut, and people, of 321 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 2: course then lose their minds. I said, well, wait a second, 322 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 2: we all know what's going on here. Let's not act 323 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 2: like we don't. But if you're going to tell me 324 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 2: that you're gonna sit in judgment of some guy publicly 325 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 2: getting a declared three hundred thousand dollars check from someone 326 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 2: who lives in this country, sure, who has to put 327 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 2: their name behind it. But you're not to say word 328 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 2: one about the current Secretary of State disappearing to a 329 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 2: foreign country for ten days. Oh and he won't tell 330 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 2: you who paid for Oh when we know the guy 331 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 2: who he went with, who has it, who had a 332 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 2: taxpayer funded contract, was bragging about selling visa access into 333 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 2: this country. If you have to ask me which one 334 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 2: I'm more concerned about, I'm infinitely more concerned about. 335 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: The mysterious trip that I don't know who paid park right, Yeah, yeah, 336 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: pop meat cattle U huh. 337 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 3: Ryan Hendrick is going to join us next on ninety 338 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 3: three WIBC. 339 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 2: Okay, lots of moving parts on the Mark Sanchez case. 340 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 2: Let's bring back in one of the best in the business. 341 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 2: I look, I think from a local perspective, nobody's covering 342 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 2: it like this guy, Ryan Hendrick from the WIBC newsroom. 343 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: Ryan, Hello, Hey, what's going on? Guys? 344 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 2: Okay, So, the big several big things yesterday with the 345 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 2: Mark Sanchez case. 346 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: First of all, the judge recused herself. 347 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 5: So four big things yesterday, and this all unfolded over 348 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 5: the course of like fifteen minutes. 349 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 1: It was very quick. 350 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, so so The big thing is, you're right, 351 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 5: Jennifer Prince Harrison has recused herself and there's really only 352 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 5: four reasons why a judge would recuse themselves of a 353 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 5: case in Mary. 354 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 2: Yes, this is very this is very perplexing to me because, 355 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 2: like you said, it's a pretty tight when you know, 356 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 2: set of rules and I'm not sure. 357 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: Which one box she's checking go ahead. 358 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 5: So personal reasons, financial reasons, prior involvement were bias in 359 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 5: the case. Now a lot of people are speculating that 360 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 5: her light sentences have compelled her to step aside, but 361 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 5: I don't think that's it because if these judges aren't 362 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 5: bothered by light sentences of killers, arm robbers and drug traffickers, 363 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 5: why would she be bothered by a perceived bias in 364 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 5: the Mark Sanchez case? 365 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: Right. 366 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 2: So, now, from a media perspective, there was some kind 367 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 2: of cheering on this because she had said no dice 368 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 2: on cameras in the courtroom. Now there's been a re 369 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 2: application to try to do we have a new judge? 370 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, his name is James Osbourne. And you're right, 371 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 5: there was an infusion of hammer of requests yesterday, back 372 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 5: to back to back camera requests right after she recused herself. 373 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 1: But we don't have a ruling on that yet. 374 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 5: And not to my knowledge, I checked my case about 375 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 5: an hour ago and there's nothing been decided in that run. 376 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 3: Does she have to say why she refused herself? 377 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 5: Nope. 378 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 3: Maybe she's just a huge football fan. 379 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, well she's the president of Mark Sanchez Fan Club. 380 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 2: She was a long standing member of the Jets Jo. 381 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 3: Maybe she had a lot of of his Brookie cards. 382 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 383 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 5: I texted a couple of cops I know in Indianapolis 384 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 5: to get some sort of perspective, and the Indie Star 385 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 5: has done a little digging with this as well. The 386 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 5: only thing we could do is guess right now, it's 387 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 5: just it's just a crapshoot at this point. Why did 388 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 5: she recuse herself, we don't know. But what we do 389 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 5: know is when she did recuse herself, this kind of 390 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 5: moved the court dates. So the court dates have now 391 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 5: been shifted and the first pre trial conference is scheduled 392 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 5: for October twenty second, and that's it, I believe one o'clock. 393 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 2: They've already said a trial date. Not that I mean 394 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 2: they're not gonna actually have a trial on this day, 395 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 2: but the trial date has been set for December eleventh, 396 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 2: it has. 397 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 5: And then there's something before that a week before that, 398 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 5: a second pre trial conference I think on December third 399 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 5: or fourth. 400 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 2: Now he wants to string or his legal team, I 401 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 2: would guess would want to string this out because you 402 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 2: talked about was as two days ago. You were with us, 403 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 2: and you said, in the Marion Kenny judicial system, if 404 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 2: you can convince the court you were an addict and 405 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 2: you're recovering, that's your basically your get out of jail 406 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:37,239 Speaker 2: free car. 407 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 5: And it tugs at their heart strings. It goes right 408 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 5: along with the pet causes, the social justice causes that 409 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 5: this prosecutor in his office believes so so much in. 410 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 5: And if they could put somebody in rehab or save 411 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 5: somebody's life under the guise of the addiction treating the addiction, 412 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 5: which is their kind of core issue, then I think 413 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 5: they're all for it. 414 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 3: So he said that he's recovered right now, but you're 415 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 3: saying if they put him in some sort of rehab 416 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 3: it will help him. 417 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 5: I think it's a great defense for him because why 418 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 5: how else, besides being just ungodly evil, could you explain 419 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 5: attacking a sixty nine year old grease truck delivery guy 420 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 5: in an alley in Indianapolis. And I don't mean to 421 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 5: make light of this, but what other defense would you 422 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 5: be able to offer other than addiction? 423 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 2: Ryan Header from the WVC newsroom is with us. We're 424 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 2: talking about the latest on the Mark Sanchez case. 425 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 3: So when he left the courthouse and Fox fifty nine 426 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 3: had asked him a few questions, he answered just a 427 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 3: few about how he was recovering and think the doctors. 428 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 3: He also mentioned that he'd be able to talk soon. Yeah, 429 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 3: when do you think that'll be? And what's what would 430 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 3: he say? 431 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 5: I think it would be a well crafted statement. I 432 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 5: think it would be a sit down on national TV 433 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 5: with a very kind of like a softball friendly, a 434 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 5: friendly news anchor that would just underhand him questions. Mean, 435 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 5: you know, when you look at his history, I think 436 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 5: it's telling that. On Sunday, his son's mother, Daniel, who's 437 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 5: eight years old, the three kids, she spoke two ts 438 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 5: yeah on Instagram and said I'm not surprised, none of 439 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 5: this surprises me. What does that mean? She just kind 440 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 5: of left us hanging. 441 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 2: So he's got a couple issues, right. Number one is 442 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 2: he's got obviously this potential prison sentence if he's convicted 443 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 2: in front of him, But there's also the underlying what 444 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 2: was he doing in that alley and why was he? 445 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 2: Why did he you know, we talked about this two 446 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 2: days ago when you were with us. He keeps like 447 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 2: circling back into that alley and then what made him 448 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 2: so mad? And depending on what the answers to those 449 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 2: questions are, the I mean he that may be the 450 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 2: thing he doesn't want to address out of all of this, 451 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm just saying that video sparked way 452 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 2: more questions than it provided answers. 453 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 5: I don't know if you ever if you were ever 454 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 5: picked on in high school, I was. There is a 455 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 5: guy that I will I'm going to name him because 456 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 5: I just feel I'm so angry to this point. His 457 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 5: name was is Kenny Picard. He was a linebacker on 458 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,959 Speaker 5: our football team, and I'll never forget he was walking 459 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 5: up the steps to six period class and he turned 460 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 5: around and just punched me and I just fell back right. 461 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 5: He was a football player, big bully type guy. When 462 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 5: I saw Mark Sanchez in that alley, circling like a shark, 463 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 5: circling is prey to me that spoke of a guy 464 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 5: like Kenny Picard who was always looking for a fight. 465 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 5: I mean, here's a guy. He walked up and down 466 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 5: West Washington Street, west toward the pub, and back east 467 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 5: or east toward the pub, then back west knowing it 468 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 5: was closed, and then went back to the alley, looked 469 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,719 Speaker 5: over his shoulder and you could see on the camera 470 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 5: he's looking at the bay where Perry Toll is unloading grease. 471 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, the story, man, this is going to be fascinating, 472 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 2: and that's where what they are worried about coming out. 473 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 2: He does look like he or appears, you know, and 474 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 2: obviously it look it's it's security, you know, footage, et cetera. 475 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 2: It's black and white, et cetera. But it does look 476 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 2: like he's zoning it on this guy. Not just like 477 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 2: there was some switch the guy flip, but like he 478 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 2: was like appears very shark like about this dude. 479 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: You know. 480 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 5: I also want to go back to the the prior 481 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 5: involvements or biases. So if you look up Perry Toll 482 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 5: in my case, there's a mortgage foreclosure case that he 483 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 5: had and the judgment was for one hundred and fifty 484 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 5: eight thousand dollars. Bank of America secured that judgment against 485 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 5: him and a person I believe was his wife. I 486 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 5: wonder if there's and we're just kind of spitballing here, 487 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 5: but I wonder if there's some part of this Judge 488 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 5: Prince Harrison, who accused herself because she believes that she 489 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 5: may not be able to deliver a fair verdict in 490 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 5: the case. Because Perry Toll actually has a couple of 491 00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 5: cases against him. One's a mortgage case of for cl case, 492 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 5: and the other one had something to do with his 493 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 5: truck in twenty thirteen. So I mean, there's all types 494 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 5: of speculation about why he filed the suit against Fox. 495 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 5: Who knows, but I know if Mark Sanchez punched me 496 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 5: or assaulted me, I'm suing him. 497 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 3: Okay, now you mentioned that lawsuit. In regards to Sanchez, 498 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 3: He's got some legal bills that are most likely stacking up. 499 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 3: He's here at the criminal case, the civil case, and 500 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 3: possibly an employment case. Everybody is still listing him as 501 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 3: a Fox analyst. Is there any word on that his employment? 502 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 3: And when do you think Fox will make a decision. 503 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 5: I don't think they can make a decision until after 504 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 5: this case is closed. Because I know when in twenty fifteen, 505 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 5: when I had to check myself into rehab from a 506 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 5: radio station I was working at, they wanted to fire 507 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 5: me because I was in no call, no show on 508 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 5: multiple occasions, and I remember the news director coming up 509 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 5: to me and saying, it's only a matter of time 510 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 5: before we get to fire you because we know you're 511 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 5: going to go back out. We know you weren't taking 512 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 5: treatment seriously. So Fox has yanked Sanchez off of all 513 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 5: broadcasts for now while the court case goes on. But 514 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 5: there's no way, there's no way that he ever appears 515 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 5: on Fox again, I would imagine. 516 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 3: But they can't terminate him at this point. 517 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 5: They can't because it's a case where he can turn 518 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 5: around and sue them again. The addiction thing is. 519 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 3: A big play. 520 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: Yet it's a big. 521 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 5: Play here because it is against federal law to fire 522 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 5: somebody that has an addiction, if they have not accepted 523 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 5: or if they've not been offered help. It is against 524 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 5: all it's ada thing. 525 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 2: So if I just say I'm addicted to hating rotten politicians. 526 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 5: No, no, if you were, it will play a hypothetical. 527 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 5: And I hate to drop your name like this, But 528 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 5: if you were to come in here drunk and our 529 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 5: boss said, you know what, you can't be on the 530 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 5: air today. And you came and drunk again and they 531 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 5: sent you home. They said, if you don't get help, 532 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 5: we're going to fire you. You know, if you refuse help, 533 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 5: then they could fire you. But we don't know what Sanchez. 534 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 5: We don't know what Sanchez is going through. And that's 535 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 5: that is a violation of ADA. I think if if 536 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 5: an employer were to fire somebody, it before the employee 537 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 5: sought help for their problems. 538 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 3: So this extra time will work in his favor. 539 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 5: I still think I said it with you and Ethan 540 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 5: on the show. I still think the addiction is his 541 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 5: core defense. Why else would you be in an ali 542 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 5: assaulting a sixty nine year old man. 543 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 2: Ryan Hedrick from the WIBC newsroom, Where can people find you? 544 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 5: X on at Sure to cover and then TikTok at 545 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 5: sure to cover number two and then of course WIBC 546 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 5: dot com. 547 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: You're the best. 548 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 2: Thank you, Casey. I watched a very interesting documentary last night. 549 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 2: I like talk about it when we come back. 550 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to hear about it. It is Kendall 551 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 3: and Casey on ninety three WIBC. 552 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,479 Speaker 1: So I watched an interesting documentary last night. 553 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 3: Casey, Yeah, you actually took time well sent down. Well okay, 554 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 3: in one segment, it's. 555 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: Get on Casey, yuh Rob, that's Casey. So here's what happened. 556 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 2: So, uh daycare is closed this week, and by the 557 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 2: time the tyrant finally went to bed, she had done 558 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 2: him min't damage to my homestead. 559 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: So I'm like, all right, it's gonna take mell. 560 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 3: He thought you were going to say she had done 561 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 3: immense damage to my mental health. 562 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: Well that too. 563 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I try to be home by 564 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 2: you know, twelve thirty or one, and then you know 565 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 2: it's basically like seven hours of you know, operating the 566 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 2: daddy daycare service. But you know, she goes to bed, 567 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 2: and I'm like, all right, I got to pick this 568 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 2: house up. I'm like, it's going to take me an 569 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 2: hour to pick this house up, so might as well 570 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,959 Speaker 2: have something going on in the background. So I've been 571 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 2: hearing about this new documentary Amazon has on John Candy 572 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 2: and it's called I Like Me. 573 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 574 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 2: Colin Hanks, who is Tom Hanks's son, is the director 575 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 2: of this documentary, and it's fascinating because there are so 576 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 2: many famous people who are still living and actively currently 577 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 2: participated in this documentary from the entire span of John 578 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 2: Candy's life is Bill Murray, was Eugene Levy, Catherine O'Hara, mcaulay, Culkin, 579 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 2: Dan Ackroyd mel Brooks. 580 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, just Steve Martin, Bill Murray, Yeah. 581 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: What's the funny guy Martin? Short. 582 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 2: All of these people you know are in this documentary, 583 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 2: and that is predominantly the documentary. It's not so much about, well, 584 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 2: tell us about this movie or tell us about that movie. 585 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: They're talking about it, and some of there is some stuff. 586 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 2: With the movies and the the Second City television all 587 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 2: that stuff, but they're primarily talking about him as a 588 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 2: as a person and what he was like and what 589 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 2: was fascinating about this this documentary, and it's sort of 590 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 2: this reoccurring theme at all stages of his life. And 591 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 2: John Candy obviously passed away very young. He was I 592 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 2: think forty four years old forty. 593 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 3: Three, passed away from a heart attack in nineteen ninety four. 594 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 2: What you from, So his father passed away when he 595 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 2: was very young. I think he was five years five 596 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 2: years old. I think on his fifth birthday, his father 597 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 2: had a massive heart attack and passed away, and then 598 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 2: it sort of from that moment forward, John Candy basically 599 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 2: got in his mind, I'm going to die very young, 600 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 2: and then it just manifested itself into this chaotic, sort 601 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 2: of tortured personal existence that no matter what achievements he 602 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 2: had professionally, and he was a mild kins of phenomenal 603 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 2: husband and father, but his personal life outside and away 604 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 2: from that was so chaotic, and every time somebody would 605 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 2: try to help him, whether it was his weight or 606 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 2: his addiction to alcohol, et cetera, he would become annoyed 607 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 2: and would. At one point, one of the guests on 608 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 2: the documentary said he would just remove any person who 609 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 2: would try to help him from his rolodex. 610 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: You're out of here. 611 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 2: I don't want to hear that I'm fat, don't want 612 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 2: to hear that I have a problem with this, And 613 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 2: was fascinating to me to hear. And Ryan Hendrick, which 614 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 2: had just kept him for this segment, he would have 615 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,479 Speaker 2: been great for this about a guy who has so 616 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 2: much talent and has so many things working for him 617 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 2: professionally and personally, and yet he's so internally tortured that 618 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 2: he refused to allow himself to enjoy it, and he 619 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 2: really in many ways. 620 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: Created his He created his. 621 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 2: Own demise by believing he was going to have demise 622 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 2: at a young age. 623 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: It's almost a self fulfilling prophecy. Totally, totally. 624 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 2: I mean it was the documentary was so well done, 625 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 2: and it was it was everybody should watch it. He look, 626 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 2: John Candy is the Mount Rushmore of funny people. He's 627 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 2: totally up there with John Belushi and Chris Farley. And 628 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 2: you talk about a guy, what's so sad about this? 629 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 2: And this was the people you talk to who talk 630 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 2: about Chris Farley who knew him, you hear the same thing, 631 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 2: and John Belushi the same thing. Phenomenally nice human beings, 632 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 2: great people who loved their family and their wives and 633 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 2: and and and the people that they were around and 634 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 2: the people that they considered their family, and yet they 635 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 2: had these addictions and these sort of tortured souls where 636 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 2: they just couldn't ever really enjoy it and they couldn't 637 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 2: stop and see what they were doing to themselves, and 638 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 2: they brought about their end at a very young age. 639 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 3: It's almost like he was convinced it was going to happen. 640 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 3: So why bother to change it anyway? 641 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,959 Speaker 2: Totally, Yeah, totally, but uh, I just I wanted to 642 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 2: touch that because that was you know, you're kind of 643 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 2: casually listening to it and then it's good enough for 644 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 2: you doing the thing. 645 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 3: You sit down. 646 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: I can actually enjoy it. So that I was up 647 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: cleaning till like twelve thirty at night. 648 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 3: Put off the clean doc was good. 649 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 1: It's like, this house is still a mess. I've accomplished nothing, but. 650 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 3: You got to see this good documentary. It's called John Candy, 651 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 3: I like me and it's available for free on Amazon Prime. 652 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, so everybody totally watch it, totally worth it. Are 653 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: what are we? What are we doing next? 654 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 3: Hey? Guess what what troops are getting paid? 655 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: Oh? Great? 656 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 3: Do you know by who? 657 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: Us? 658 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 3: Maybe? Maybe not Donald either, No, I do know. I 659 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 3: know what Donald Trump says. 660 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 1: Oh you're being deliberately vague. 661 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 3: Yes I am. 662 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: You're vague booking me teasing. 663 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 3: Oh it's called a teas you're listening to Kettley Casey. 664 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 3: It's ninety three w IBC