Speaker 1: The Phrase per Second Podcast. Welcome everybody to the Phrase
Speaker 1: per Second Podcast. My name is Kennedy and joining them
Speaker 1: on the show, we have Rob, Mike and Spike. What
Speaker 1: up we are to talk about? Have a you know,
Speaker 1: brief discussion about the new Eyes of Wakanda series that
Speaker 1: dropped on Disney Plus. It is an animated mini series
Speaker 1: four episodes long that explores Wakanda, Wakandan history through the
Speaker 1: eyes of Haziras, which apparently are war dogs Wakanda's covert agents.
Speaker 1: So it basically follows four different characters in each episode
Speaker 1: on different missions to retrieve stolen artifacts, and it just
Speaker 1: shows like their different operations, the impact on different areas
Speaker 1: and whatnot. But yeah, yeah, and it is actually set
Speaker 1: in MCU's Sacred Timeline, So this is not an alternate
Speaker 1: timeline or anything like that. It's actually in this timeline
Speaker 1: which connects to all the other franchise and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So what was dope is the animation was handled by
Speaker 1: company called Access Animation, which is a hand in a
Speaker 1: hand painted style inspired by contemporary African American artists such
Speaker 1: as Ernie Bars as well as illustrator Dean Cornwell. Anybody
Speaker 1: know any of them.
Speaker 2: One sounds familiar Dean Cornwall for some reason. So the
Speaker 2: other guy sounds familiar to.
Speaker 1: Me Ernie Bars. Yeah, don't. I don't know anybody. I
Speaker 1: thought that that was cool that they did that. So
Speaker 1: it premiered August first, twenty five, So what did you got?
Speaker 1: And it's the first series of phase six of the MCU.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, ya, man, I feel you I'm
Speaker 1: just saying it, or if the listeners benefit because I
Speaker 1: don't keep up with it, I just you know, yeah.
Speaker 2: I feel like I should though, I feel like I
Speaker 2: should keep up with it. But I had no desire
Speaker 2: to see this. I don't know why, Like, like I
Speaker 2: don't know the animated shit.
Speaker 1: This don't it's so weird.
Speaker 2: I say this every time as an animator, like I
Speaker 2: don't know animation. Shit just don't be intriguing me for
Speaker 2: some reason. I don't know why. But but nah, this
Speaker 2: ended up being being really good. Actually I did like
Speaker 2: the animation that I was really hoping that it wasn't
Speaker 2: like AI driven and stuff. But but yeah, so it
Speaker 2: is good to know that it's based off those two
Speaker 2: artists or whatnot. But but no, I thought I thought
Speaker 2: it was solid. I thought this was a very solid
Speaker 2: little short series.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: I was, and the stories were good, were good. I
Speaker 2: enjoyed them. I was not expecting to enjoy this, but
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 1: What about you, Mike?
Speaker 3: I didn't care about none of this. I'm sorry. I
Speaker 3: didn't dislike it necessarily, but I did not give a
Speaker 3: fuck about any of these motherfuckers. I was like, where
Speaker 3: is the child? I know, that's how that's how you
Speaker 3: sound like, Don, I'll be with Dom. Then that's me
Speaker 3: me and you.
Speaker 1: Don. He was like, who are these people? Right? He's like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to watch this? I was like, all right,
Speaker 1: you gotta watch it because.
Speaker 3: The stories just weren't intriguing to me.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 3: Who is this? Why do I care? I mean, it
Speaker 3: started off intriguing because I like the idea of the
Speaker 3: lying spreading out the pieces of Wakanda and stuff and
Speaker 3: they have to go find them. That's who, you know whatever,
Speaker 3: That's what we've seen even in the movie. But none
Speaker 3: of these four stories intrigued me. I was like, bro,
Speaker 3: I don't care about none of.
Speaker 1: You is a non m c U comic person, but
Speaker 1: one familiar with Black Panther and just Wakanda in general.
Speaker 4: You Fox same sentiments as my man, and I wanted
Speaker 4: to like it too, like it black, it was black people.
Speaker 4: The action was good, the animation was good. But I was, like,
Speaker 4: I just even less than y'all. Probably not, I don't know,
Speaker 4: Like I thought it was gonna be some recognizable characters
Speaker 4: or something, even with the last one titled what was
Speaker 4: it the New Black Panther?
Speaker 1: What are the Last Black Panther or something like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was Panther. I liked at the end.
Speaker 2: That was the only that was my favorite part of
Speaker 2: the whole shit with at the end, well, I know
Speaker 2: that scene, I'm familiar with that. But yeah, like I
Speaker 2: could have I would have rather this spent more time
Speaker 2: in Wakanda and have stories around that than the artifacts
Speaker 2: of Wakanda and being outside of because I'm always more
Speaker 2: interested in world building and want to know, even with
Speaker 2: Black Panther, you won't spend a lot of time in Wakanda.
Speaker 1: It's like on the outside of that.
Speaker 4: So I would have enjoyed this more if it was
Speaker 4: about stuff happening within the place that is Wakanda verse.
Speaker 1: Just them having to go gather artifacts, I just didn't care.
Speaker 2: But I think the artifacts are a big part of
Speaker 2: Wakanda though, and they.
Speaker 1: Talk about the stories really behind them, but.
Speaker 2: They say they talk about it throughout the movies, like
Speaker 2: even Black Panther, Like that's one of the first dialogues
Speaker 2: that Michael Be talks about is the artifacts and how
Speaker 2: it was stolen from his from his country and all
Speaker 2: these things. So it makes me want to go back
Speaker 2: and and like just kind of pay more attention to
Speaker 2: how how they conserve art and artifacts and power. And
Speaker 2: we always hear how they are are with the power
Speaker 2: that that stays in Wakanda and how they want to
Speaker 2: keep it there and then they branch out. So I
Speaker 2: think it supports that culture. I thought this, I thought
Speaker 2: this supported that personally, you know.
Speaker 1: Wrong. Yeah, overall I was trying to figure out, like
Speaker 1: what was the purpose of this series and why are
Speaker 1: they doing this? Wasn't Ryan Coogler involved in some kind
Speaker 1: of way? Yeah, So, you know, I think he's he's
Speaker 1: earned the trust of you know, people when it comes
Speaker 1: to the stuff that he's doing because he signed to
Speaker 1: deal with them. I believe, you know. I think my interest,
Speaker 1: like you Roy Well, I wasn't interested in it.
Speaker 3: Overall.
Speaker 1: Did enjoy it, but I completely understand the sentiment of
Speaker 1: Mike and Spike because normally something like this I would
Speaker 1: watch on television after the first episode, the rest and
Speaker 1: first the first episode in this half of the second one,
Speaker 1: I watched the remaining two and a half on my
Speaker 1: computer while I was working on stuff because I didn't
Speaker 1: feel like it was when I realized that they were
Speaker 1: individual stories, I was like, Okay, I really don't really
Speaker 1: need I don't really need to pay attention all that
Speaker 1: much into what's going on. They're just kind of kind
Speaker 1: of what if, Like, like, you're just telling me a
Speaker 1: story about wa Kanda. Are you guys trying to do
Speaker 1: this to get us to move on from T'Challa and
Speaker 1: Chad with Boseman, because they have to figure out a
Speaker 1: way to do that. So are you trying to just
Speaker 1: tell these stories about Wakanda and to kind of get
Speaker 1: us invested in like what Wakanda is as a whole
Speaker 1: and less on one central character. Yeah, and how the
Speaker 1: Black Panther changes. Yes, Yeah, so you have to recondition
Speaker 1: or basically reprogrammers, you know, apparently you know they ain't
Speaker 1: ready to move on, Spike getting ready to move on,
Speaker 1: but you're ready to move on. Just I don't.
Speaker 3: I think me not giving a fuck about none of
Speaker 3: this is me ready to move on because I don't
Speaker 3: care about these people. I know, I said, like, you know,
Speaker 3: when Wakanda pops up, it's like, where is T'Challa. I
Speaker 3: get that they were they were showing old stories, so
Speaker 3: T'Challa clearly wouldn't be in the right. It was more
Speaker 3: so none of y'all. The first woman I can't remember
Speaker 3: her name, but the first woman that gets her eye
Speaker 3: cut and all that, she was the only one out
Speaker 3: of all of these people that I found even remotely interested. Yeah,
Speaker 3: she was interesting because she was like a rebel.
Speaker 2: She did things, you know, unconventionally. I don't even remember
Speaker 2: who was in the second one, but the Achilles shit,
Speaker 2: get that shit the fuck out of here.
Speaker 3: That that last one with the fools that went and
Speaker 3: took it from a random place, and the future Black
Speaker 3: Panther comes. I got to put it back. I don't
Speaker 3: give a fuck about none of this, bru.
Speaker 1: Okay, So so you liked the first one into the
Speaker 1: lions Den, which yeah, twelve that was twelve sixty BC.
Speaker 1: The Door of Malaja NONI sent her to hunt down
Speaker 1: the Lion. Yes, and then this one we just get
Speaker 1: introduced to the whole concept and the idea that there
Speaker 1: are these war dogs. So you liked that one. I
Speaker 1: thought that was an actually pretty interesting story and just
Speaker 1: the dialogue he was the Lion was having about what
Speaker 1: his version of freedom is. You know, even though he
Speaker 1: was kind of doing the same thing to the people
Speaker 1: he was so called freeing, you know, by forcing them
Speaker 1: to comply under what his his vision of freedom. He
Speaker 1: feel like he wanted.
Speaker 2: He felt like he wasn't forcing him though he felt
Speaker 2: like that, you know, they were willingly doing it just
Speaker 2: because of what he did to their on how he
Speaker 2: freed them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but you I mean, that's how he seed it.
Speaker 1: But that's not what was happening though. He was absolutely
Speaker 1: forcing them to do it. Remember he tortured to a people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was torturing them. Yeah. Remember he had the he
Speaker 1: put like tattoos on him. I forgot what the thing
Speaker 1: we called it with the iron Yeah, he branded them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the best one was the first one. I agree.
Speaker 4: I do think the Lion story was interesting. I think
Speaker 4: the girl was interesting, as Mike said, even the retrieval
Speaker 4: of what she was trying to get or bring him
Speaker 4: back or whatever. All of them did work and it
Speaker 4: gave me promise. I thought it was a promising start,
Speaker 4: but it didn't stay there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the fighting was super cool, like when even when
Speaker 3: they're fighting on that ribbon like, but it was very
Speaker 3: crouching tiger. I thought that was super dope. So yeah,
Speaker 3: their whole fight scene was was was really well done.
Speaker 3: It's just it's just after.
Speaker 1: This Legends and Lies, the second one with Achilles bro
Speaker 1: I absolutely do not understand what was going on, but
Speaker 1: notice this story though, Yeah right, yeah, yeah, I know. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So so for me, it's like, Okay, it's like they've
Speaker 2: been around all of these major events in time, and
Speaker 2: it's like, you know what, Kanda's always had quote unquote
Speaker 2: eyes on.
Speaker 1: The world, world, world issues or whatever. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: that's how I look.
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just saying like they were present, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like somebody is important as like
Speaker 2: Achilles in that time and the whole Trojan Horse thing
Speaker 2: all of that.
Speaker 1: It's like damn, Like.
Speaker 2: I like how they're incertain, like like black technology culture
Speaker 2: into these situations that they just kind of never you know,
Speaker 2: might be getting written written out of history.
Speaker 1: And this is the Trojan War in Twelvey BC. Pika
Speaker 1: is the one that infiltrated the Greek army under the
Speaker 1: alias of Memnon, who is in Greek mythology like a
Speaker 1: real character. So so I like that. I like, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and all the whole idea of
Speaker 1: the Trojan Horse. I don't know, I think you know. FY.
Speaker 1: For those of you interested in the Blood of Zeus series,
Speaker 1: if you've watched it, Jalen Nick and I we did
Speaker 1: a review of the third season for that'll that'll be
Speaker 1: on Patreon. It's interesting because I just finished watching that,
Speaker 1: and I love Greek mythology. Bro. It's just something about
Speaker 1: this story and seeing all these.
Speaker 2: Just white people it's supposed to be but that's how
Speaker 2: that's how I portrayed.
Speaker 1: Though I know this one was kind of whacked me.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I like this one too, you guys. It
Speaker 1: started off it started off kind of whacked to me,
Speaker 1: but I settled into it.
Speaker 2: I started to settling into it, and then when it
Speaker 2: came back around to what's the girl and what's her name?
Speaker 1: Uh kia Akia.
Speaker 2: She's the one that sent him out on this mission.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh damn, so they're connected this somehow.
Speaker 2: So that that actually intrigued me as well. I was like,
Speaker 2: oh dope. I did like how he ended when he
Speaker 2: was talking and this is how you say he's been,
Speaker 2: he's been. He said, damn, there a decade he's been
Speaker 2: in he's been. That's how he became friends with Achilles,
Speaker 2: like he's been like his friend. He's really his friend,
Speaker 2: but he still had to The whole mission was to
Speaker 2: try to get this relic.
Speaker 1: I thought he was gad Oh wow, I thought they
Speaker 1: I thought they had a relationship.
Speaker 2: You didn't, well, I thought I think Achilles went both ways.
Speaker 1: I think that's not what it showed that.
Speaker 3: But I do think Ailles was just a love.
Speaker 2: A lot of the Greek people then they were. He's
Speaker 2: sexually fluid, but I never had any impression that.
Speaker 1: But I didn't see that in this.
Speaker 3: There was no dick of Wakanda going.
Speaker 1: It seemed like he was really bothered.
Speaker 2: Was because that was his friend before he said that
Speaker 2: was one of the yeah, the coin thing. That's just
Speaker 2: like you didn't you didn't think they.
Speaker 3: Were fucking.
Speaker 1: Like I want to do this, bro.
Speaker 2: Like the fight scene, the fight scenes in this sh good.
Speaker 2: They didn't fight like they've been fucking.
Speaker 1: He ain't want to kill him.
Speaker 2: Big Bro took him out pretty easy. He broke his
Speaker 2: he fucked him up. I was like, if you don't
Speaker 2: leave this big black ass man along.
Speaker 1: He was trying to tell him to want this.
Speaker 3: This ain't what you want, bro, arms glowing, bro, let
Speaker 3: this go.
Speaker 2: He tried to tell him, like, I know you Achilles
Speaker 2: and ship it's different. It's different, bro, And that's what
Speaker 2: I like the representation of that, because we know Achilles
Speaker 2: to be a strong warrior and to see that he
Speaker 2: could be overpowered by somebody from Conda.
Speaker 1: I was like, man, they they're they're putting this in perspective.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I liked it. Yeah, I like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Paris and the hell in Detroit they had
Speaker 1: the necklace, so that's why they had to get it
Speaker 1: from there, which is all this stuff got set up.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think the conversation kind of connects to
Speaker 1: the first episode because but Kyle was talking about like
Speaker 1: being an outsider and you know, and uh you know,
Speaker 1: uh Nony, I think I think I may have got
Speaker 1: the wrong name. Yeah, yeah, I was telling about the
Speaker 1: dangers of being outside Akia. Uh yeah, Noney was dispatched. Yes,
Speaker 1: and akiak a kia, Yeah, apologies there, but yeah, Noney
Speaker 1: was telling him like he looked like her was not
Speaker 1: her because she got her I got fucked up so
Speaker 1: she had a little patch in her eye. So yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, but all in all, I I did endoy
Speaker 1: the fighting. But when this one came that this is
Speaker 1: why I was like, Okay, yeah, I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: really need to be paying attention to this ship. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I left. I was ready to tap out. That was too.
Speaker 3: I was like, bro, I don't give a fuck about
Speaker 3: none of these Greek people. I don't care about this
Speaker 3: Trojan Horse. I don't care about none of this ship.
Speaker 3: Like brouh, I'm ready to go.
Speaker 1: It just felt like, and I get what you're saying, Rod.
Speaker 1: It is like we we've been here, you know this
Speaker 1: this whole time, so of course we would be here.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, man, we know the story of the
Speaker 1: Trojan Horse. Like I thought I was gonna see something
Speaker 1: a little bit more, you know, Wakandon same same.
Speaker 3: I thought we were going to see something more with
Speaker 3: Condon and I thought we were, and we might, but
Speaker 3: I thought we were going to see something that is
Speaker 3: a bit more impactful for whatever is about to happen
Speaker 3: with the films, and again we might but just out
Speaker 3: of this, I was like, Okay, cool, why do I
Speaker 3: Why am I supposed to care about this?
Speaker 1: Yeah, not gonna lie when I saw it was only
Speaker 1: four episodes.
Speaker 3: Thank god.
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Speaker 1: You know. We we have the last two episodes to go.
Speaker 1: So for me, the second is the weakest one by far.
Speaker 1: Lost and Found was. I did like this one because
Speaker 1: I like seeing the iron fist, and I never watched
Speaker 1: the iron fist. Hey, bro, that motherfucker iron fist.
Speaker 2: Yeah don't ye then y'all told me don't, but yes.
Speaker 3: I will tell you over and over over.
Speaker 1: And over do not. Yeah? Yeah, So the episodees picked
Speaker 1: up at least this one. I really did. I did
Speaker 1: enjoy this. When we were in fourteen hundred a d
Speaker 1: and Wakanda field agent Bosha infiltrated Kun Lung to steal
Speaker 1: a Wakanda artifact. They're from a from a Chinese dragon statue.
Speaker 1: It can't be taken out, so Bosha took it and
Speaker 1: went back home. The only thing I din like about
Speaker 1: I didn't like Bosha's character. You know, he was kind
Speaker 1: of goofy loof. He didn't take shit serious, which is fine.
Speaker 1: You can't have them all all similar. So you know,
Speaker 1: I think in terms of just having a different character.
Speaker 1: I can see why they chose to do this, but
Speaker 1: I didn't like it. What did you think about? This?
Speaker 1: One didn't work? I didn't like it. What did? What did?
Speaker 1: What did you not like about it?
Speaker 4: I just didn't like how goofy, like you said he was.
Speaker 4: It didn't fit with the warrior of mentality that we
Speaker 4: usually see from Wakanda and the people that come out
Speaker 4: of that. It's just like you say, I could have
Speaker 4: pay attention to it and just wouldn't. Nothing was like
Speaker 4: captivating about it, was nothing like, oh this is interesting.
Speaker 4: It was just like the fights were cool, but that's
Speaker 4: what they leaned on too much to hold my attention.
Speaker 1: So you know, so.
Speaker 4: You like the fight between with I liked all the
Speaker 4: from every episode. The fight seems to me with the best.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just seemed like Mike did It seemed like
Speaker 1: Washington had to fight to be a what kind of
Speaker 1: war on? Not to me?
Speaker 3: Not to me? Iron Fish up and she handled his
Speaker 3: ass well.
Speaker 1: He didn't try to hurt her, That's what I was wondering.
Speaker 1: But I didn't see any display. I mean, she took
Speaker 1: out a whole like there, she took out a whole
Speaker 1: room with Yeah, she beat everybody, and she was like,
Speaker 1: you could have just asked I gave it to you.
Speaker 1: But yeah, what Mike said, she beat everybody. She was
Speaker 1: in a room full of the motherfuckers, And oh guess
Speaker 1: what I was going to ask you? Was that somebody like,
Speaker 1: who is it?
Speaker 3: She's from the comics and there are different iron Fists.
Speaker 1: So this one the iteration trying.
Speaker 2: To fix things because there was an Iron Fist TV
Speaker 2: show and like I said, it was fucking garbage, absolute garbage.
Speaker 2: So I think that they think that that show hurt
Speaker 2: the actual character of Iron Fists. So they're like, well, no,
Speaker 2: let's show you that Iron Fist can be cool.
Speaker 3: And she was pretty cool.
Speaker 1: She was. She was.
Speaker 4: I like the scene where they was on the rails,
Speaker 4: jumping across the rails and stuff.
Speaker 1: But I'm kind of with you, Rod. I was wondering
Speaker 1: if he was holding back, and I wish we could
Speaker 1: have seen, like seen a version of him not doing that.
Speaker 1: But I don't know what you think of this. This
Speaker 1: is this one was actually probably my least favorite.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because the same reason Spike, I just didn't
Speaker 2: I think you too, Like it was just the main
Speaker 2: character just wasn't that strong. And then and then uh,
Speaker 2: and then the I guess the guard or whatever he
Speaker 2: wasn't He was kind of I don't know, just you.
Speaker 1: Don't have the field leader.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the field leader, even the guy that that was
Speaker 2: over the I guess the commander, yeah, even him like
Speaker 2: him just believing whatever the fuck he said, that doesn't
Speaker 2: sound believable. I was just like, come on, really, it
Speaker 2: was towards the end when he was just telling him
Speaker 2: what all happened, like, oh, yeah, ain't nobody in here.
Speaker 2: He we were we were doing uh, we were doing
Speaker 2: a well he said, like a mock operation. It's like
Speaker 2: what he's supposed to believe that and broke everything and like,
Speaker 2: come on, just fixing.
Speaker 3: The clean up, like and she we just saw her
Speaker 3: beat up a whole bunch of wakandoms all lie or yeah,
Speaker 3: that didn't make any sense. Yeah that was too cartoony.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that this was This was actually my least
Speaker 2: favorite one, but I still like, I still liked it,
Speaker 2: you know, some of the things with the iron Fists.
Speaker 2: I like what they did with the iron Fists, especially
Speaker 2: after they said yeah, especially after she said this all
Speaker 2: could have been avoided.
Speaker 1: He just asked for it, which I don't know if
Speaker 1: I believed her, But you know, this is like, you
Speaker 1: nursed me to health, and I was saying, hey, honestly,
Speaker 1: I'm just in spot here to get this thing. Well,
Speaker 1: they seem like the same person, like, oh they both
Speaker 1: were spas on the agent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well they both like are protectors of certain things.
Speaker 2: So so she didn't She didn't necessarily want to kill anybody.
Speaker 1: She just wanted to ship back. So you would have
Speaker 1: saying that she would have understood.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, because she didn't care about the little yeah
Speaker 2: about dragon, So that did make sense.
Speaker 3: I believed her. If you just say, hey, you want
Speaker 3: the tongue, here have it works the man it works
Speaker 3: this bike.
Speaker 1: It looked like he did give it to a bike
Speaker 1: and she was knocked out.
Speaker 3: She definitely got that toe went deep, so deep. But
Speaker 3: that sleep he was to she came, actually she came.
Speaker 3: I'm like, you go more than fist. But she nursed
Speaker 3: them back to health and ship.
Speaker 2: She's like, I don't never see a big black man
Speaker 2: in the city.
Speaker 3: She carried his as back home. I got to see
Speaker 3: what this is. I heard stories, I heard the black
Speaker 3: po I.
Speaker 2: Didn't fall dragons and all kind of ship. I don't
Speaker 2: fall dragons. I ain't didn't see what this is. She
Speaker 2: was taking a good nap too, she was.
Speaker 1: Anyway. The last one is where it kind of attempts
Speaker 1: or does connects everything. It was like, it's why we're here,
Speaker 1: you know, Spike already talked about it. We saw Killmonger
Speaker 1: looking at the Acts at the end of it. But
Speaker 1: we have Prince Dafari and Kuda who are on a
Speaker 1: mission to retrieve the Vibranium Acts from Ottawa during a
Speaker 1: battle and on. They accomplished the mission, and even this
Speaker 1: one KAfari Tafari was still sort of kind of he's
Speaker 1: a child, so I guess, you know, it's fine for
Speaker 1: going to be a little bit aloof, but yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: They get attacked by a Queen of Wakanda and the
Speaker 1: Last Black Panther five hundred years in the future, and
Speaker 1: she shows them a vision of Wakanda in ruins destroyed
Speaker 1: by aliens known as the Horde.
Speaker 3: See this should have been cool because the Horde is
Speaker 3: a real thing, and they were in X Men and stuff,
Speaker 3: So I thought this was gonna be dope. But don't
Speaker 3: I hate time travel. I was like, God, I'm not
Speaker 3: saying it's the show's fault, but I mean I don't
Speaker 3: like time travel, so I was just like, why do
Speaker 3: we Why do we always have to put time travel
Speaker 3: in fucking everything? She goes back in time. Oh, you
Speaker 3: got to put the X back where you got to.
Speaker 3: Oh the horse is going to come down and kill everybody.
Speaker 3: I don't care, bro, I don't care.
Speaker 1: I don't care.
Speaker 3: Like, at least showed me some of the other heroes
Speaker 3: fighting the hordes, but all you showed me was the
Speaker 3: horror coming up chewing up a bunch of black women.
Speaker 3: I was like, this is all you're gonna show me.
Speaker 1: They didn't have that.
Speaker 2: They implied that they fucking took over everybody else. Show
Speaker 2: me that, b show.
Speaker 3: Me them killing. I noticed the eyes of a con
Speaker 3: got the eyes of MCU. I get it.
Speaker 2: But I just I never at any point cared about
Speaker 2: this because I'm like, well, y'all are gonna fix it.
Speaker 3: We know this isn't gonna happen, so let's just get
Speaker 3: to it. And then the little Prince Doe was too
Speaker 3: fucking goofy o, my god, and then give me some steaks,
Speaker 3: like let somebody die. Nobody fucking dies in this.
Speaker 2: Definitely yeah, dropped on you, bro Die.
Speaker 1: I definitely thought he was.
Speaker 2: Y'all got all these fucking gadgets and ship. Why y'all
Speaker 2: couldn't fix old girl's eye? There ain't there ain't no
Speaker 2: you call eyes of Wakanda, and y'all took this chick's
Speaker 2: as there's no fucking Wakandan eyes you can put in
Speaker 2: her little ship. Y'all can fix every thing else, but
Speaker 2: you got this one wearing a eye patch.
Speaker 3: That's fucked up.
Speaker 1: Here's a little even get a white man or facts.
Speaker 2: She couldn't get some bond can see a whole bunch
Speaker 2: of she absolutely could have gotten be behind it. That's
Speaker 2: fucked up. She absolutely could have gotten fucked up. I
Speaker 2: can't believe y'all support this?
Speaker 1: Did you? What about you? On this last episode? Spight Uh?
Speaker 1: I agree with Mike there were no steaks.
Speaker 4: It was I liked the lady that came back and
Speaker 4: was traveling in the future and was kicking the ass.
Speaker 1: The last panther, the last panther.
Speaker 4: So this is it's like, does this have anything to
Speaker 4: do with any other movie or anything?
Speaker 1: Just it probably will at some point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're probably gonna use her at some point because
Speaker 3: I don't think people fuck with Sherry as a black panther,
Speaker 3: which id I would rather have this woman like. She
Speaker 3: looks like a badass. Surrey is all bony and shit,
Speaker 3: I can't take her seriously. Fucking nobody up. But this
Speaker 3: woman I took seriously.
Speaker 1: As a halfway.
Speaker 4: So today for me to read, I have the same
Speaker 4: sentiment about her. But it was because I seen her
Speaker 4: being like the Little Sister and the other movie, and
Speaker 4: it never really exactly like it don't need get Time
Speaker 4: exactly doesn't work that she's the Black Panther when he's
Speaker 4: supposed to be this powerful figure. When it's supposed to
Speaker 4: be this powerful figures far position. But now this one,
Speaker 4: it was impressive that the lady came back. That was
Speaker 4: about it.
Speaker 3: But you know what, so I agree with you completely
Speaker 3: about Sherry. I like Cherry, but yeah, the old Sister,
Speaker 3: but the ship didn't make sense to me when the
Speaker 3: Black Panther came back in time and started whooping their ass,
Speaker 3: It's like, why are.
Speaker 1: You just say that?
Speaker 3: Why didn't you just say, hey, I'm from the future.
Speaker 2: You immediately showed up and started beating the ship out
Speaker 2: of them like they almost to kill you for you
Speaker 2: to yeah, like she was.
Speaker 3: She was fucking them up before she finally said, look, no,
Speaker 3: I'm not here to hurt you. You just spent ten
Speaker 3: minutes beat my ass. What do you mean not here
Speaker 3: to hurt me? Why do you just say? Hey, you
Speaker 3: knew who we were.
Speaker 2: You know who we were, you came back to find us.
Speaker 2: This ship didn't make any sense. Yeah, I know it's
Speaker 2: comic books. I know it's cartoons. I got you, dude,
Speaker 2: why are you doing that?
Speaker 1: I saw those things too.
Speaker 2: She could have stopped them by saying, hey, bro, stop no,
Speaker 2: because that wouldn't panther. They wouldn't that they weren't convinced.
Speaker 2: But but she didn't even try. She immediately showed up
Speaker 2: and started beating his cast. She could have been like, hey, bro,
Speaker 2: Wakonda forever. I'm from the future. Wakanda from the future,
Speaker 2: and then tell them, hey, bro, I know it's kind
Speaker 2: of race.
Speaker 1: I should stop doing that.
Speaker 2: I just like their accents beautiful, but it is right.
Speaker 1: I should stop anyway.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna stop doing it.
Speaker 2: You just what you said earlier? No, no, no, you
Speaker 2: just Whattano does what?
Speaker 1: Yeah, journalists, you're just beating the line. Bro.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I know I should not do that. I
Speaker 3: should not do that.
Speaker 1: I apologize, come back and get you.
Speaker 3: I just think their accents are cool.
Speaker 2: Anyways, she could have said, hey, man, you just thought
Speaker 2: you took stop it.
Speaker 3: Stop it, man, stop and leave it below. He's going
Speaker 3: through it right now.
Speaker 2: Many will not let it go. They started attacking me
Speaker 2: over this ship. I'm like, bro, I didn't even say nothing. Anyways.
Speaker 2: I just feel like she could have been like, hey, bro,
Speaker 2: you gotta put that right.
Speaker 1: You're right, you're right.
Speaker 2: It was a it was a better way to do
Speaker 2: that because it was confusing, like why did you just
Speaker 2: fight them?
Speaker 1: But you're right.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: She could have just told him, like, hey, y'all put
Speaker 2: the ship back. It's going to destroy the world five
Speaker 2: hundred years from now.
Speaker 3: I guess they had they had to have the action,
Speaker 3: I guess.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It was good though. It was good action.
Speaker 1: It was good. It was good. I was trying to
Speaker 1: figure out who. I don't know if that that pregnancy
Speaker 1: meant anything, but I couldn't find anything. Remember, that's the
Speaker 1: way she was able to convince sofar that she was
Speaker 1: from the future. Child, But I couldn't find any connections,
Speaker 1: so it may not have been any I didn't even
Speaker 1: think that hard about it.
Speaker 3: I'm like, why you show up so late? You showed
Speaker 3: up late, you know, because she like Lauren Hill.
Speaker 1: Was it cool seeing Eric again? It was at the end.
Speaker 1: I liked that. People say he's was greatest hero. I
Speaker 1: saw that on so that was interesting.
Speaker 3: I wish they had just well, he's dead, but I
Speaker 3: wish they had figured out some way to just make
Speaker 3: him the next Black Panther. Yeah. I know it's shopping
Speaker 3: on Shuy.
Speaker 1: But.
Speaker 2: That's what everybody was speculating, that he would just be
Speaker 2: the next They should have just wrote it that way.
Speaker 1: If they did, people would buy in, people would be back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's right there.
Speaker 3: It is like, just make it to where he didn't die.
Speaker 1: Because it was it was y'all, it's a fifty to
Speaker 1: fifty and it may be and y'all may have a
Speaker 1: different percentage on kill Manger Black Panther like, Yeah, so
Speaker 1: it could work if they went that route.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And talking about like recasting Michael Jordan, just making
Speaker 2: him recasting, it's just making him be the new black
Speaker 2: same character, but you yes have him learn from his
Speaker 2: ways that he fucked up. And be like, Okay, I
Speaker 2: went about it the wrong way. But I do still
Speaker 2: think that the rest of the world could have with
Speaker 2: Condon technology. I just did it wrong, and they he
Speaker 2: could actually work with Sherry and that could have been
Speaker 2: a really cool dynamic. The guy that tried to kill
Speaker 2: her brother, she has to team up with him to
Speaker 2: save whatever. I like you, he ends up becoming like
Speaker 2: a brother to her. Yeah, yeah, I think a lot
Speaker 2: of people thought he was going to go that route.
Speaker 1: And yeah he just didn't.
Speaker 3: Maybe they still will. Yes, still, why are they still
Speaker 3: bringing his ass?
Speaker 2: That's true, very true anyway, But anyway, your thoughts on
Speaker 2: this last one, I know you were talking.
Speaker 1: No, I like it. I like the last one. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was interested to see how the time travel
Speaker 2: didn't bother me too much in this one, because I'm
Speaker 2: kind of with Michael on time travel, but like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know, it didn't feel too like in my
Speaker 2: face like with it.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's just it's like, Okay, they're gonna find a way
Speaker 2: to tie this together. And I have face faith in Coogler,
Speaker 2: so you know, as a as a writer. So I
Speaker 2: was like, all right, cool, I'm with it, they'll bring
Speaker 2: this full circle.
Speaker 1: And then when we got the last I was like, whoa.
Speaker 2: So again that made me want to go look at
Speaker 2: the other movies and how these relics and stuff and
Speaker 2: artifacts are so important to the wakanda or whatever, and
Speaker 2: and then the acts is very significant. So I was like,
Speaker 2: and I remember him talking about the acts in that movie,
Speaker 2: so yeah, that was kind.
Speaker 3: Of cool to see him looking at the acts, and
Speaker 3: we know, yes, that was kind of cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, oh ship he had the mask too?
Speaker 3: Who had what mask?
Speaker 1: Killer?
Speaker 3: He had the mask from from the Lions?
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, yeah, yeah. Overall, the second one was
Speaker 1: the weakest for me. That's the one I enjoyed the least.
Speaker 1: I think if I had to pick one I enjoyed
Speaker 1: the most, I think it would be the first one.
Speaker 1: And then you know, three or four can be whatever
Speaker 1: somewhere sandwich in between that you know, it doesn't really
Speaker 1: matter which order. But I think overall, like it was
Speaker 1: a fine watch. I didn't hate it, but I totally
Speaker 1: understand sentiment of like, we didn't even need this shit,
Speaker 1: why do we even do it? I get it, but
Speaker 1: also like the fact that maybe they're just trying to
Speaker 1: expand outside of just you know, and do more Wakanda shit.
Speaker 1: I think they may need to do that to get
Speaker 1: people to move on. But I think when it was over,
Speaker 1: when it was I was like, this is kind of
Speaker 1: a jagged way to kind of connect us all the
Speaker 1: way back to Killmoker. It was just like, ah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was just like this, which'all was this was the
Speaker 1: the reason? Like this why we're doing this.
Speaker 3: They're just trying to make it known that Wakanda is
Speaker 3: very important. But I feel like they've kind of done that.
Speaker 3: But I also feel like they could have done that
Speaker 3: more if these stories were more compelling. And I know
Speaker 3: they tried to go the smart route. Look, this is
Speaker 3: a Kilee and everybody knows it's a key Lee story.
Speaker 3: We don't care about Achili bro, we don't care about Akies, Odysseus, oh, Flippy's,
Speaker 3: none of these motherfuckers they could be. It don't matter.
Speaker 3: It really doesn't matter that much. So yeah, again, I
Speaker 3: don't think it was bad. I don't think it was bad.
Speaker 3: I just personally was not interested in any of this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm always here for MCU stuff, so I'm fine
Speaker 1: getting it for you know, the.
Speaker 3: Trailer made like it was gonna be hard.
Speaker 1: Really, it's just gonna be hard.
Speaker 3: But it wasn't that hard.
Speaker 1: It's a little song. I think as we close out, uh,
Speaker 1: the release, the way they went it and released it
Speaker 1: seemed a bit weird too, like they were rushing to
Speaker 1: release it.
Speaker 3: I thought that was weird too. Yeah, so what's coming
Speaker 3: out this week that they needed to make room for?
Speaker 1: I don't know. It just seemed like if the thought
Speaker 1: that I was getting is that with some of this stuff,
Speaker 1: there was like we got this stuff in the tuck,
Speaker 1: we don'et worked on it. We don't really want to
Speaker 1: put it. We don't want to go forward with it
Speaker 1: because people seem less connected. But we can't drop the
Speaker 1: Wakanda ship because black people be bad. So we're gonna
Speaker 1: release the kind of ship they keep doing that man,
Speaker 1: you know. But again I don't know. I don't keep
Speaker 1: up with Marvel and CU news like that. Just through
Speaker 1: Jayleen and Nick kind of talking about it so here
Speaker 1: and there, so I was like, Okay, what's going on
Speaker 1: with this? So it's almost like we don't believe in it,
Speaker 1: but we're gonna put it out anyway.
Speaker 3: That's how it feels about a lot of shit they've
Speaker 3: been doing lately.
Speaker 1: You know, with this one. So but anyway, any more
Speaker 1: thoughts on it, Rod, did you find Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: trying to see was that the actual? But I think
Speaker 1: Jaylen said no. I think that's what he said no to.
Speaker 3: I thought he was saying no to us talking about
Speaker 3: kill Marnger being the next what he was talking about
Speaker 3: always sending a little text messages and ship in the
Speaker 3: same house.
Speaker 1: All right, man, Well we'll leave it there. We'll cut
Speaker 1: you guys, next sign we're out. Peace