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Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 3: Said the FBI.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know. I have no idea what's going

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Speaker 2: to happen. Thank you very much, jem that I got

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Speaker 2: to the very end of a press conference with Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of screaming, a lot of yelling, a

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Speaker 2: Marco Rubio is there, the Vice President Jadie Vance is there.

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Speaker 2: Interesting thing about Headseth. There's a story, a story indeed

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Speaker 2: about how there's been a meeting called Washington. Posed have

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Speaker 2: the story Hegseth orders rare, urgent meeting of hundreds of

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Speaker 2: generals and admirals. As I get more in information on that,

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Speaker 2: I will bring that to you. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, guys,

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Speaker 2: an absolute pleasure. Good to be with you. Eight three

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Speaker 2: to three, got Tony. That's the number. That's how you

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Speaker 2: three got Tony. So there he is with the President

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Speaker 2: of Turkey, and well, I like this guy, but he's

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Speaker 3: This is a guy who's highly opinionated. Usually I don't

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Speaker 3: to have him stuff buying Anny oil from Russia. Will

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Speaker 3: Russia continues his rampage against Ukraine and they've been fighting,

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Speaker 3: They've lost millions of lives already, and for what, you know,

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Speaker 2: Turkey is not going to stop buying Russian oil. That's

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Speaker 2: all people, CNN an minded administrations for that shooting decisions.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm a great.

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Speaker 3: Deal made in Turkey, Yes, CNN, because.

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Speaker 2: You sounded like a nice guy. CNN is fake news,

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Speaker 3: And I think he'll be successful with buying the things

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Speaker 2: Mostly President Trump would like to sell them a whole

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Speaker 3: I just say that we want to get Gaza.

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Speaker 3: Great meeting with the leaders of that area of that region,

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Speaker 3: I have to get the hostages back. We're the ones

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Speaker 3: But it looks like there are twenty living hostages and

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Speaker 3: probably thirty eight or so dead hostage is pretty sad.

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Speaker 3: men boys in many cases, like literally boys. They want

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Speaker 2: We had a very good.

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Speaker 2: To be close to a deal. I'm not holding my

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Speaker 2: the return of hostiles and yes, of bodies. These people

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Speaker 2: number one. Meanwhile, Mark vote a boss because he doesn't

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Speaker 2: you use his old school terrorist name, the Gods of Ship.

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Speaker 5: It is an integral part of the state of Palmis

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Speaker 5: sign and that we are ready to bear full responsibility

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Speaker 2: The Gazzas trip is what now? You see now that

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Speaker 2: it's all just perfect. That's not it. But go back

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Speaker 2: and listen again to what just God said.

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Speaker 5: The Gods of Ship it is an integral part of

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Speaker 2: You mean an integral part? Ah, that's right, you want

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Speaker 5: Terrorists have to say that we are ready to bear

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Speaker 5: full responsibility for governance and security. Hamas will not have

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Speaker 2: You believe that if you want, And this would lead

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Speaker 2: the Daily Mail had the story. But I'll get to

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Speaker 2: that that and my conversation with doctor Robert Malone. I'll

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Speaker 2: And what we don't know about what they know, doctors know,

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Speaker 2: medical professionals know regarding a set of metaphite and pregnancy,

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Speaker 2: my gosh, boggles the mind. Keep it here. I'm Tony Katz.

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Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz today. Later I'll share with you

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Speaker 2: my interview with doctor Robert Malone, who sits on the ACIP,

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Speaker 2: a something that doctor Martin McCarey of the FDA was

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Speaker 2: discussing about a new treatment for autism. Can you give

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Speaker 2: me a basic idea of what luca vorn is and

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Speaker 2: what its effect on autism might be.

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Speaker 4: Functionally, Luca lauren is a synthetic vitamin, and what it

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Speaker 4: does is it provides an alternative pathway for uptake of

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Speaker 4: fullic acid into the brain. And fullic acid and gluteithione

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Speaker 2: funding terrorism. Look at the sanctions on around for the

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Speaker 2: funding of terrorism. You gotta stop them cold. But there's

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Speaker 2: a part too. It's time for Benjamin Ett and Yahoo

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Speaker 2: to you go in front of a camera and tell

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Speaker 2: the Jews of Great Britain to get out. There's no

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Speaker 2: country left if they want to be overrun by Islamists,

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Speaker 2: if they want to engage the imppeasement of terrorists, what

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Speaker 2: chance do you have. That's not a country. That is

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Speaker 2: the start of an afterthought, that is the start of Hey,

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Speaker 2: do you guys remember that England thing? Do you remember

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Speaker 2: that whole United Kingdom? Silliness? That's what they are. I

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Speaker 2: have stated that Prince William, who will be King William,

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Speaker 2: will be the last king of England, and Prince George,

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Speaker 2: his eldest son, will never be King George. There will

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Speaker 2: be no kingdom. It won't exist anymore. It won't exist.

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Speaker 2: And I think it's time for Benjamin and Yahoo to

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Speaker 2: say that already the recognition of terrorists, there's nothing else

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Speaker 2: you can do. You can't save them. So you have

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Speaker 2: this place you can go to go protect yourself to it. Now,

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Speaker 2: of course that should be the conversation, that should be

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Speaker 2: the discussion. In no way, shape or form can any

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Speaker 2: money be given to these terrorists. And if you're starting

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Speaker 2: to see that that is the UK further funding its

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Speaker 2: own demise and the demise of others can't live in

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Speaker 2: the United Kingdom anymore. My fear is that's going to

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Speaker 2: be the story of Canada and Australia as well. Australia's

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Speaker 2: got a little time though, because the UK and Canada

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Speaker 2: are so much further ahead in importing Islamists and in

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Speaker 2: destroying their own societies. I'd love to hear Benjamin that, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: who say it sooner rather than later. This is Tony

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Speaker 2: Katz today, years ago.

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Speaker 6: How important is it for leaders, especially at the very

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Speaker 6: very top of the government to set the tone.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 6: It should not matter whether the radicalization comes from the

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Speaker 6: right or the left or sort of the non ideological,

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Speaker 6: deep drug recistness of the internet. This president, this Vice

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Speaker 6: president has had a chance now since the assassination of

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Speaker 6: Charlie Kirk, to bring the country together to try to

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Speaker 6: stamp out all sorts of violence, including political violence, and

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Speaker 6: they refuse to do that. What they are trying to

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Speaker 6: do is exploit these murders and these shootings in order

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Speaker 6: to silence, only to send and political opposition.

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Speaker 2: On the left. The left is killing people. Senator Chris

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Speaker 2: Murphy continues to be this guy. He's the guy who

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Speaker 2: the day before was it the day of before Charlie

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Speaker 2: Kirk was assassinated? This continues apace. You think the left is.

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Speaker 6: Trying to tone down the rhetoric, No, criticizing the way

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Speaker 6: that Ice is rounding up people in this country in

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Speaker 6: a deeply inhuman and im moral way is not an

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Speaker 6: incitement to violence.

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Speaker 2: There is a moment where you cross the line.

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Speaker 6: But what they are trying to do is to destroy

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Speaker 6: the ability for people who oppose their policies to legitimately engage.

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Speaker 2: In political debate. And we are not going to let

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Speaker 2: them do that. M Who in the world is stopping

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Speaker 2: you from engaging in political debate? Who in the world

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Speaker 2: is stopping you from doing such a thing? All right,

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Speaker 2: democratics sent you call them Nazis? Is that what you're saying?

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Speaker 2: We want you to stop calling them Nazis? You think

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Speaker 2: that's political debate? You don't think that's an incitement to violence?

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Speaker 2: Have you lost your head? And the answer is yes.

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Speaker 2: But I put forth to you and my biggest fear

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Speaker 2: is and I say it's my biggest fear, but I

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Speaker 2: believe it. It is true, and it is happening. It

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Speaker 2: goes along with my theory that the only way out

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Speaker 2: is through The left has no interest in toning down

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Speaker 2: any rhetoric. None, zero, They have less than zero interest

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Speaker 2: in toning down any rhetoric because, as I see it,

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Speaker 2: they want it. That's my take. It's a terrible, awful take,

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Speaker 2: meaning that it's just it's terrible to have to say it,

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Speaker 2: but I absolutely believe it they want it. Nothing has

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Speaker 2: shown that they will tone it down. And you've got

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Speaker 2: Schumer saying that political violence is President Trump's fault. Chuck

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Speaker 2: Schumer said to the Supreme Court, you will reap the whirlwind.

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Speaker 2: You will pay the price if you change anything about abortion.

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Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer cheered the intelligence community, saying they had six

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Speaker 2: ways from Sunday to get back in President Trump if

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Speaker 2: you should challenge them cheering violence, and now Trump won't.

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Speaker 2: You're taking assassins and saying, well, let's make it political.

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Speaker 2: Good gosh, I'm Tony Kats.

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Speaker 1: Lie from the Heartland and the crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Kats today.

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Speaker 2: So, as the story goes, the White House is prepared

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Speaker 2: hearing right now mass firings in the federal government. No

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Speaker 2: just me I'm the only person who appreciates such things.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you being with him. That that was quick,

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Speaker 2: that that was quick. Mass firings in the federal government.

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Speaker 2: This because of the shutdown. Tony Katz Tony Kats today,

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Speaker 2: what is going on? Find everything I do over at

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Speaker 2: Tony kats dot com. The live stream is happening, YouTube

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Speaker 2: dot com slash Tony Katz. The shutdown is taking place

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Speaker 2: because the Democrats have not figured out that Trump doesn't

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Speaker 2: care what you call him. This is a Republican shutdown,

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Speaker 2: and Republicans are creating a healthcare crisis, and Republicans are

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Speaker 2: running scared, and blah blah blah, blah blah. You don't

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Speaker 2: have the argument. Here's what happened. The Continuing Resolution passed

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Speaker 2: the House with bipartisan support because the Democrat did vote

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Speaker 2: for it. It's now in the Senate, and you, Chuck Schumer,

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Speaker 2: think you can hold things up because you, Chuck Schumer,

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Speaker 2: are convinced that you have some kind of light to

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Speaker 2: stand on, you have some strength, that you are actually

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Speaker 2: galvanizing people and engaging some level of really smart politics

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Speaker 2: against President Trump. It's not happening. It's not happening. We're

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Speaker 2: just not that into you, and you are not a

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Speaker 2: wartime CONSIGLIERI. You are weak, and Hakim Jeffries is weak,

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Speaker 2: and that's the best you've got. Republicans are running scared.

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Speaker 2: Republic Whiggins are pulling better than you on crime, on immigration,

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Speaker 2: on the border, on foreign policy, on gun control, which

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Speaker 2: freaks me out. Everywhere you go, everywhere you look, everything,

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Speaker 2: every single turn you make, you're losing Hakim Jeffries to

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Speaker 2: the Republican Party. And it doesn't matter what story it

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Speaker 2: is everywhere you look. Shall we go through it again? Okay,

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Speaker 2: let's go through it again.

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Speaker 7: When Bernie Sanders first ran for the president presidency about

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Speaker 7: a decade ago, that's not.

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Speaker 2: The clip I wanted. That's about Representative Acossio Cortes and

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Speaker 2: her favorables. This was the story I wanted.

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Speaker 7: What do you think, you know, what are we seeing?

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Speaker 7: You know, Donald Trump being underwater? Democrats and all this

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Speaker 7: guarantees us we're gonna fly high in the midterms. Let

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Speaker 7: me tell you this guarantees you nothing. Nothing Because at

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Speaker 7: this particle of point that Democrats are the New Orleans

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Speaker 7: Saints of political parties, what are we talking about? Trust

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Speaker 7: the Dems or gop more on the economy. Who leads

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Speaker 7: on the economy, Republicans by seven immigration, Republicans by thirteen.

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Speaker 7: How about crime a big issue for Donald Trump? And

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Speaker 7: the Republicans look at that lead by twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Twenty two points. Then again the Democratic Party told us

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Speaker 2: there is no crime. Why is Trump talking about crime?

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Speaker 2: Everything's great, all the crime's down. We're doing such a

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Speaker 2: great job. There is no crime. No one ever heard

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Speaker 2: of such a thing as crime. You know what the

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Speaker 2: crime is, Donald Trump, that's the crime. If only somebody

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Speaker 2: would do something about him. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge. We

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Speaker 2: see you, political left, and we're kind of grossed out,

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Speaker 2: mostly amazed at how absolutely disconnected you are from where

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Speaker 2: the American people are. And it's again proven in this

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Speaker 2: idea of a shutdown. If Democrats want to try and

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Speaker 2: stop the Senate from voting on a continuing resolution, Democrats

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Speaker 2: shut down the governments. And as I have said before,

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Speaker 2: here is now how I am going to spend my

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Speaker 2: time if there's a government shutdown. I just I'm very

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Speaker 2: very clear about these things. I do not get worked up.

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Speaker 2: I am now going to share with you how I

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Speaker 2: will spend my time if there is a government shutdown,

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Speaker 2: cigar in hand, leaning back and begin a warm today,

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Speaker 2: Walem yesterday, even Walma today. Stewie said that, Stewie, what's

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Speaker 2: right for a baby? Stewie wise, That's how I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: spend the shutdown. I'm not gonna spend any time worrying

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Speaker 2: about it. You're gonna tell me about how families aren't

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Speaker 2: getting paid. I hear you. You're gonna tell me how

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Speaker 2: the military families are gonna suffer. I hear you. I

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Speaker 2: refuse to get worked up about government shutdowns where I

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Speaker 2: have political parties like the Democratic Party, more interested in

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Speaker 2: the political victory than they are in the country. If

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Speaker 2: either of these parties were worth a good holy damn,

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Speaker 2: we'd have budgets and not continuing resolutions. We'd have a plan,

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Speaker 2: we would be spending less, we would be paying down

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Speaker 2: debt like every family in America should be doing, living

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Speaker 2: within our means. But we don't have that. So I

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Speaker 2: refuse to get worked up by that. And now what

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Speaker 2: the White House is saying is that the Budget Office

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Speaker 2: is instructing federal aidents to prepare reduction enforced plans for

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Speaker 2: mass firings during a possible government shutdown, and they want

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Speaker 2: to specifically target as Sophia Kai, I believe that's our

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Speaker 2: pinouncial last name from Politico wrote, targeting employees who work

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Speaker 2: for programs that are not legally required to continue. So

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Speaker 2: omb in this move to reduce the government workforce, and

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Speaker 2: there's a shutdown, as a memo shared with Politico, escalates

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Speaker 2: the stakes of a potential shutdown. Sure stakes are escalated.

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Speaker 2: I am fine with escalated steaks. I, however, would rather

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Speaker 2: we engage in the mass firings even if there's no shutdown.

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Speaker 2: I would appreciate it if we would. I like the idea.

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Speaker 2: I think we should go with that. I think we

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Speaker 2: should keep it up. Have we forgotten that dog was

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Speaker 2: a good idea? Oh? Trump and Elon Musk had to fight.

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Speaker 2: Oh now, Elon Musk, It's terrible. Elon Musk is the enemy?

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Speaker 2: What kind of crazy? He was never the greatest American

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Speaker 2: hero because his name wasn't William Kat and he's never

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Speaker 2: the enemy. He quite literally brought free speech to Twitter

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Speaker 2: now x because he said we could engage a conversation

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Speaker 2: and the concept of cuts in the massive amount of

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Speaker 2: fraud was worthy. Doje is a good idea? Why aren't

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Speaker 2: we doing more of it? Where are those recision bills

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Speaker 2: that I was promised? Here is the federal government, here's

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Speaker 2: Congress saying, okay, we're going to spend on this, this

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Speaker 2: and this, and here's what we're spending. Well, what if

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Speaker 2: we don't want to spend that much. Well, it turns

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Speaker 2: out they can't just say we're not spending that much,

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Speaker 2: we won't spend that much. You have to have a

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Speaker 2: recision bill, and you have to claw back the dollars

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Speaker 2: and say we're not going to spend three billion dollars

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Speaker 2: on this, We're going to spend one point two billion

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Speaker 2: dollars on this. Well, to do that, you need legislation,

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Speaker 2: need the presidency or the executive branch. I'm sorry, thank

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Speaker 2: you to come to Congress and say here, pass this legislation. Now,

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Speaker 2: the White House, I believe, is trying to make the

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Speaker 2: statement that the idea of a spending bill, that's the ceiling.

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Speaker 2: It is not the facto the amount that has to

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Speaker 2: be spent. So this is the Trump administration argument. It's

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Speaker 2: actually pretty interesting. So I don't know how many of

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Speaker 2: us ever asked that question. If you tell me that

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Speaker 2: there's a spending bill we're going to spend a billion

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Speaker 2: dollars on name we're has been a billion dollars on

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Speaker 2: new shirts for Tony? Where has been a billion dollars

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Speaker 2: on these shirts? Which that that's a nice budget. And

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Speaker 2: we see that, we're like, all right, we're spending a

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Speaker 2: billion dollars, But we don't ever ask ourselves, well, what

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Speaker 2: if we buy the shirts and only comes to seven

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty million dollars? Are you telling me we

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Speaker 2: have to spend the other two hundred and fifty million. Now,

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Speaker 2: in government circles, you understand how this works. An agency,

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Speaker 2: a group, an organization gets a budget of X, they

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Speaker 2: absolutely spend every penny of the budget because what happens

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Speaker 2: if they don't? You know the answer. You don't need

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Speaker 2: me to tell you what happens if they don't spend it. Hold,

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Speaker 2: we'll do it together on the Twitter X at Tony

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Speaker 2: Katz in the chat room. You can answer the question.

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Speaker 2: You have a budget of let's say it's a billion dollars,

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Speaker 2: what happens if you don't spend the billion dollars? But

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Speaker 2: you only spend because you are able to find efficiencies

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Speaker 2: and you're able to reduce costs and you only spend

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Speaker 2: seven hundred and fifty million dollars, what happens at that moment?

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Speaker 2: You know the answer? The answer is, that's the weirdest

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Speaker 2: drum roll ever. The answer is, next year you only

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Speaker 2: get a budget of seven hundred and fifty million dollars,

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Speaker 2: you will lose out on the budget. You will get

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Speaker 2: less next year. And so government being government, they can't

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Speaker 2: have that. So they spend their full budget and then

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Speaker 2: they ask for an increase. And that, kids, is how

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Speaker 2: you get waste, fraud, and abuse. That, kids, is how

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Speaker 2: you have an ever growing government. They not like us.

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Speaker 2: This is the difference between government and the private sector.

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Speaker 2: They aren't rewarded by the savings. They're punished for it.

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Speaker 2: And in order to ensure that they don't get punished,

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Speaker 2: they spend more. So you get punished and you pay

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Speaker 2: more tax dollars. I haven't said anything that you do

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Speaker 2: not already know nothing. So the question before us is

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Speaker 2: if a Congress appropriates a billion dollars for something, do

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Speaker 2: they actually have to spend the billion. What the White House,

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Speaker 2: I believe, is saying is that's a ceiling. That's the

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Speaker 2: most they can spend. What Congress or Democrats trying to

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Speaker 2: say is no, no, no, that's a mandate, that's what has

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Speaker 2: to be spent, which sounds kind of insane if that's

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Speaker 2: indeed a mandate because it's saying there can be no efficiencies.

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Speaker 2: We appropriated a billion dollars, you appropriated it. Does that

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Speaker 2: mean it has to be spent? Yes? What if we

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Speaker 2: can do the same thing for forty seven dollars or

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Speaker 2: fifty cents? Spend the billion. This is no way to

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Speaker 2: run a country. That is absolutely no way to run

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Speaker 2: a country. So in order to bring the spending down

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Speaker 2: right now, you need the recision. Though where are they?

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Speaker 2: Why aren't we reducing the spending, Why aren't we doing

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Speaker 2: more with DOJE, and why aren't we talking about mass firings.

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Speaker 2: I gotta wait for a shutdown to engage the mass firings.

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Speaker 2: Let's go. There are people working in government who don't

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Speaker 2: need to be working there, who provide no value, who

688
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,399
Speaker 2: give us absolutely nothing. I'm not interested in paying them,

689
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Speaker 2: and if they're offended by it, allow me to be clear,

690
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 2: how dare you be listening to this show when you're

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Speaker 2: on the clock on my tax dollar? I know I'm

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Speaker 2: entertaining as hell, and I'm a fine looking individual, but

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Speaker 2: you gotta get back to work because you work for me.

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Speaker 2: I'm write in the check and I'm not interested in

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Speaker 2: you having a good time between nine and five. Take

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Speaker 2: your lunch break and get back to it. And the

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Speaker 2: lunch break, kids is over right now. There is a

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Speaker 2: guy who's driving a truck listening to this show, and

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00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 2: when he's done, he's gonna go to his second job,

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Speaker 2: and in between he's gonna hope to catch an inning

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Speaker 2: of his kid's Little league game, or maybe see his

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Speaker 2: kid in passing and just ask him how he's doing

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Speaker 2: and how the homework's going. There is a mom who

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Speaker 2: is is listening to this show as she's running errands

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Speaker 2: for her family, and it's gonna come home to take

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Speaker 2: care of her ailing mother and then make sure the

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Speaker 2: kids are all set. They don't. They got to make

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Speaker 2: every dollar matter. They gotta make every cent count. They

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Speaker 2: aren't rewarded for spending the budget. They're rewarded for coming

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Speaker 2: under the budget. And every time Congress and in these agencies,

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00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 2: I should say, are rewarded spending the budget and ask

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Speaker 2: for more. The budget of mom and the budget of

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Speaker 2: that guy who's going to a second job gets a

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Speaker 2: little bit smaller because these people take I am not

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Speaker 2: opposed to government. I am a fan of the liberty society,

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Speaker 2: not the freedom society, which is to say, I believe

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Speaker 2: in the rule of law. I believe in the guardrails,

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Speaker 2: and I believe that we should be giving up the

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Speaker 2: very most minimal amount of freedom ever possible to have

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Speaker 2: a society like ours. There's a difference between liberty and freedom.

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Speaker 2: And every time these people abuse, I get sick. So

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Speaker 2: mass firings, okay. And if that's all just a ploy

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Speaker 2: to get Democrats to vote for the continuing resolution, okay,

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Speaker 2: but we be better off with the mass firings too,

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Speaker 2: and sooner rather than later. Mister President, let's not Let's

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Speaker 2: not waste our time on this. Let's get it done.

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Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz in. This is Tony Katz.

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Speaker 8: Today, autocracies now outnumbered democracies for the first time in

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Speaker 8: twenty years. Nearly three quarters of the world's population today

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Speaker 8: lives under autocratic regimes in too many countries, including sadly

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Speaker 8: right here in the United States, democracy is under siege.

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Speaker 2: Thank goodness, Hillary Clinton is working to tone down the rhetoric.

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Speaker 2: In other news, Why in the world. Is anybody paying

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Speaker 2: attention to Hillary Clinton as she stands there in front

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Speaker 2: of a podium that says Clinton Global Initiative. Did you

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Speaker 2: see the podium, Clinton Global Initiative? Twenty years of action? No,

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Speaker 2: twenty years of getting paid for doing nothing, which I guess,

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Speaker 2: I guess one could call action, Tony Katz, Tony Katz today,

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Speaker 2: good to be with you. Democracy is not under siege

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Speaker 2: in the United States. This is a lie. And they

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Speaker 2: continue to push this lie, desperate to keep this going,

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Speaker 2: desperate to bring about, in my view, another lone wolf,

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Speaker 2: another attack, more violence. That's their desire in every single conversation,

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Speaker 2: in every single place they're doing this. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: get into that in just a moment, especially, dear Lord,

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Speaker 2: what they're talking about ice and this and this madness

747
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Speaker 2: Gestapo talk. I will, I won't let you down. I've

748
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 2: got that story. And she continued, did she do this

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Speaker 2: Southern Action?

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Speaker 8: Our information ecosystem is broken, AI and social media are

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00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 8: supercharging lies. Autocrats attack academia and the media, leaving people

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Speaker 8: vulnerable to manipulation and deeper polarization.

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Speaker 2: You sent out classified emails and then destroyed the server.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Where the problem You told us that we

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Speaker 2: couldn't talk about COVID vaccines. You told us we couldn't

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Speaker 2: talk about Hunter Biden's laptop. You lied about Russia, Russia, Russia,

757
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Speaker 2: and you sit there and you tell us about misinformation.

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Speaker 2: How does she do it? How does Hillary Clinton do this?

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Speaker 2: She sits there with a straight face and no, you

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00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 2: cannot make face jokes about Hillary Clinton. Don't do that.

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Speaker 2: Don't do that. Focus You know you are a liar.

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Speaker 2: You know this. You lied about Russia, Russia, Russia. You

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Speaker 2: planted the story and then got everybody else. Maybe they

764
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 2: felt like they didn't have an option to cover for you.

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Speaker 2: We know the story, we know the deal. We're the

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Speaker 2: ones engaging in misinformation. You can't spell misinformation without Hillary Clinton.

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Speaker 2: These people don't stop, they don't rest, they don't quit.

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Speaker 2: And somewhere out there, somebody is donating to her. Someone's

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Speaker 2: donating to the stuff, giving their money. I will tell you,

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Speaker 2: for anything that I disagree with President Trump on, I

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Speaker 2: don't regret a single vote and keeping her out of

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Speaker 2: the Oval office. History will record what an unbelievable hope

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Speaker 2: that was to the future of America.

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Speaker 9: This is Tony tax today, Like you know, and then oh,

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Speaker 9: we're going to be champions of free speech.

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Speaker 2: They're tough on free speech.

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Speaker 9: That's why we only read the free press free speech,

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Speaker 9: something like free press is dead.

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Speaker 2: Free press for.

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Speaker 9: MAGA, it's like free press is what we say.

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Speaker 2: Free press is right. And same thing with cancel culture.

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Speaker 9: It's trying to feel a little better by calling it

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Speaker 9: consequence culture, but it's cancel culture. Let's see how many

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Speaker 9: late night hosts we can cancel. Let's see how many

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Speaker 9: professors we can cancel. Let's see how many people that

786
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Speaker 9: we can track down in their place of work that

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Speaker 9: may not have said something glowing about Charlie Kirk and

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Speaker 9: get them fired. Let's go after Pam Bondi, the Attorney General.

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Speaker 9: Let's go after office depot.

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Speaker 2: They don't premt flyers. You set the rules, Joe Scarborough,

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Speaker 2: what are you angry at us for? What are you

792
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Speaker 2: angry at us for? You set the rules. The rules

793
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Speaker 2: got set by the left and you gave it a

794
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Speaker 2: free pass. You and your pseudo intellectual show at MSNBC.

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Speaker 2: They set the rules. They set you have to decorate

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Speaker 2: the cake, you have to make the cake. They sued

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Speaker 2: Masterpiece Cake Shop again and again and again and again

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00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 2: and again and again and again and again and again,

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Speaker 2: over and over. Anybody who didn't do what they wanted,

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Speaker 2: they sued, They attacked, they vilified, they ridiculed everything. You

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00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 2: canceled people, You destroyed lives, you destroyed futures. You did this.

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00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 2: You sat by while it happened. And now now that

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Speaker 2: the rules are being applied, now it's a problem. With

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Speaker 2: all due respect, I sleep like baby. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 2: I cut it up. I never actually sleep well, but

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Speaker 2: I am trying to sleep better. But I get all

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00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 2: cuddly warm because I like it. I like a cold.

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00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 2: I like the room cold, and you slide under the

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00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,760
Speaker 2: covers and warms up. You're like, oh, this is good.

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Speaker 2: This is That's how I feel when I hear people

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Speaker 2: like Joe Scarborough complain. You think this is about some

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00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 2: kind of unfairness. No, these are your rules, and you

813
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 2: are now living by your rules. We told you, hey,

814
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 2: these rules suck, and you said screw off their conservative

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Speaker 2: Republican maga, disagree with us, loser, this is the way

816
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 2: it is. Haaa, And they laughed. And then we said, okay,

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00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 2: in the words of Mitch McConnell, you'll regret this, and

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00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 2: here we are. By the way, the people who you

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00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 2: canceled were people who maybe said something shocking. The people

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Speaker 2: who we said, what's wrong with you are people who

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Speaker 2: laughed about the assassination of Charlie Kirk, or, in the

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Speaker 2: case of Jimmy Kimmel, lied about who did it. We

823
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Speaker 2: should accept liars, We should be thankful for people who

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Speaker 2: cheer assassinations. Of course they have. Free speech doesn't mean

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Speaker 2: you get to be on TV. Your boss may have

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Speaker 2: a word. Tony Katz, that's my name of the show

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Speaker 2: is Tony Katz today, Good to be with you. It's

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Speaker 2: like when Jimmy Kimmel said at the end of that

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Speaker 2: monologue the other day, shows like this should have the

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Speaker 2: right to exist. We don't say no to that. We

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Speaker 2: say that no one has to give you a show,

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00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 2: no one has to provide you an outlet. You can

833
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 2: go talk on the street corner. I like the idea

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Speaker 2: of free speech. I want more free speech, not less,

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Speaker 2: But no one afforded that to us when we talked

836
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Speaker 2: about COVID vaccines or Hunter Biden's laptop. Free speech didn't exist. Then.

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Speaker 2: Now you live by those rules, don't those rules suck?

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00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 2: But even without those rules. ABC doesn't owe you a show,

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Speaker 2: and it's weird that there are some celebrities who think

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Speaker 2: that ABC owes them a show. It's very weird, and

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Speaker 2: I would like to see Disney tell those celebrities to

842
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 2: shut up. Disney should have said, WHOA, don't you threaten us?

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Speaker 2: Four hundred celebrities writing we won't appear here, we won't

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Speaker 2: do this, don't show up. We'll replace you all with

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00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 2: AI right now, which is what's happening. Best of luck

846
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 2: to you. The most insane thing about celebrities is that

847
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 2: they believe the hype. Never ever, ever, ever believe the hype.

848
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 2: Don't buy in. The minute you do, you're lost. You

849
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 2: have no connection, no tether to reality. You are just broken.

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00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 2: You can't actually function. And imagine what happens when you

851
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 2: lose the celebrity, because there are people who are very

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Speaker 2: famous and then they don't do anything for two years

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Speaker 2: and then they're forgotten about. Longevity is difficult, very very difficult.

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Speaker 2: I mean, dear lord, what's his name is? Brendan Fraser?

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Speaker 2: Is that his name? Such a hot actor when he

856
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Speaker 2: was younger, and then went through years of nobody paying attention,

857
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Speaker 2: and then he comes back with the whale and you're like,

858
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Speaker 2: oh my gosh, that's right. This guy's incredible, and so

859
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Speaker 2: it goes, and so it goes, and so it goes.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of those stories. Was anybody a hotter

861
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Speaker 2: actress on the planet? Going back to the nineteen eighties

862
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Speaker 2: and then Shelley Long in Cheers and she said, I'm

863
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Speaker 2: gonna go have a movie career, and Cheers said we're Cheers,

864
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Speaker 2: We're a juggernaut. You're gonna make so much money. Don't

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Speaker 2: leave it. She said, sorry, everybody loves me and I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna go be a famous actress. And well that was

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Speaker 2: the end of that. David Caruso, anybody, I mean, there's

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Speaker 2: a list here, McLean Stevenson said, I don't need mash.

869
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Speaker 2: I'll go have my own career without it. Okay. My

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Speaker 2: point to you is is not that there people haven't

871
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Speaker 2: left programming gone on to other things. It's that when

872
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Speaker 2: you're out of the public eye and you've thought yourself

873
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Speaker 2: as important, man, that crash is something serious, something fierce.

874
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Speaker 2: And ABC understands, a Disney understands, and the studios understand

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Speaker 2: that AI is here and is absolutely going to replace

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Speaker 2: a bunch of these people, they're writers, actors, voiceover artists, etc.

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Speaker 2: So let them let them say, how dare you have

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Speaker 2: a standard over there at ABC? And you don't let

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Speaker 2: people lie about who murdered who, who assassinated who? Say

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Speaker 2: forget you, will replace you with AI. But they didn't

881
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Speaker 2: do that. But Joe Scarborough, you don't like cancel culture

882
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Speaker 2: or consequence culture. Maybe you should not have been such

883
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Speaker 2: a proponent of it. Maybe you shouldn't have been so

884
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Speaker 2: silent in it. Maybe your side because don't try and

885
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 2: convince anybody of your conservative bona fides. Maybe you just

886
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 2: should have said, you know what, we don't do this

887
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Speaker 2: in America. But my gosh, there's some awful things being

888
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Speaker 2: said here, and let's discuss those awful things. That's absolutely worthy.

889
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Speaker 2: That isn't what happened. Now. They live by the rules

890
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Speaker 2: and they're very upset. And then they tell us that

891
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Speaker 2: we need to tone down the rhetoric. We need to

892
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Speaker 2: tone down the rhetoric, right, right, we need to tone

893
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Speaker 2: down the rhetoric. Like Representative Promilajiapal.

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Speaker 10: We might call this getting strike ready. I think of

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Speaker 10: it as getting us strike ready or street ready. And

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Speaker 10: part of that is understanding our own strength, and as

897
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Speaker 10: we develop that strength, being able to assess our risk tolerance,

898
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Speaker 10: because we know that risk tolerance increases as the severity

899
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Speaker 10: of the situation increases and as our own understanding of

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Speaker 10: what's happening increases. So overall, the more we understand what's effective,

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Speaker 10: what the risks are, and who's ready to participate, the

902
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Speaker 10: more impact we can have.

903
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Speaker 2: Strike ready and street ready. Now, I've never heard strike ready.

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Speaker 2: I thought that was kind of a reference to union strike,

905
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Speaker 2: so I wasn't sure. But street ready, Oh honey, I

906
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 2: know street ready. Boo boo, I got street ready. I

907
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 2: understand street ready. If you think that that's just some

908
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Speaker 2: standardized statement and not the call to fight, you're out

909
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Speaker 2: of your head. That is the violence call. Just so

910
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:29,439
Speaker 2: we're all perfectly clear. Toned down the rhetoric, Nah, that's

911
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 2: not toned down the rhetoric, not by any stretch of

912
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Speaker 2: the imagination. Then there's Amanda Marcott. She's over there as

913
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Speaker 2: a writer at Salon, and if there is something disgusting

914
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Speaker 2: to say, she's the one to say it, and she

915
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Speaker 2: writes off. Maga is fawning over Erica Kirk right now,

916
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Speaker 2: But there's no way she can keep Charlie's audience, his

917
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Speaker 2: bread and butter with sexualized humiliation of college girls. More

918
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Speaker 2: girls gone wild than doing politics the right way. A

919
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Speaker 2: woman can't pull it off. Wow, she can't replicate his

920
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Speaker 2: brand of gutter misogyny. A couple of things here, just

921
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Speaker 2: for the sake of clarity. First, doesn't tone down the rhetoric. Secondly,

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Speaker 2: I have argued, and I would argue still that part

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Speaker 2: of the reason people came out to see Charlie Kirk

924
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Speaker 2: on a college campus was to absolutely bat around like

925
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Speaker 2: a cat with a mouse. These leftists, these progressives, who

926
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Speaker 2: had only their emotions and had no thought behind what

927
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Speaker 2: it is they're saying, no core behind what it is

928
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Speaker 2: that they're saying. That's absolutely true. I think, guy, we're

929
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Speaker 2: gonna go see liberals get the snot kicked out of them.

930
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 2: That absolutely happened, and to say otherwise is laughable. However,

931
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Speaker 2: in doing so, two things were happening. Number One, anybody

932
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Speaker 2: could come to the microphone, men and women, and he

933
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Speaker 2: wasn't screaming at you or yelling at you. Oh, there

934
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Speaker 2: are times where I could go over something he says,

935
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't have said it that way. I've done it

936
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Speaker 2: this way sure, that's not the argument. The argument is

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Speaker 2: whether you were a man or whether you're a woman,

938
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Speaker 2: whether you're gay, whether you're straight, black or white, this,

939
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Speaker 2: that or the other. You could step up to the

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Speaker 2: microphone and talk. And what makes anybody think that Erica

941
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Speaker 2: Kirk is going to be the one on the college campuses.

942
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Speaker 2: Maybe her style and approach will be different. I have

943
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Speaker 2: absolutely no idea. But his bread and butter was sexualized

944
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Speaker 2: humiliation of college girls. Amanda. I don't know if you're

945
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Speaker 2: projecting there as if that's something you want. I don't

946
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Speaker 2: quite understand the statements. But there's a lot of videos

947
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 2: out there. They created a lot of video and it

948
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Speaker 2: was men and it was women. So I think that

949
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Speaker 2: this is a more of a fantasy play. But turning points,

950
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Speaker 2: gonna keep on keeping eye on. Of course they are.

951
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Speaker 2: Of course they're gonna keep going every step away and

952
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 2: there will be things that I agree with the things

953
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Speaker 2: that I disagree with, and that's rational. This is turning

954
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Speaker 2: up the heat. This is not a tone down of

955
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Speaker 2: the rhetoric. There is no tone down of the rhetoric

956
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 2: when it comes to the political left. That isn't happening.

957
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 2: And as I stated, I like the moves being made

958
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Speaker 2: regarding the dismantling of left wing groups that incite violence,

959
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 2: going after who's getting the money to groups like Antifa,

960
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 2: absolutely positively should happen ten thousand percent. I value this.

961
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Speaker 2: But on the rhetoric side, there is no tone down.

962
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Speaker 2: It doesn't exist. There's no desire, there is no want,

963
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Speaker 2: there is no appetite. Make a look at the Go

964
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Speaker 2: to the shooting of Steves Scalise if you want. Go

965
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 2: to the assassination attempt on Donald Trump and Butler. Go

966
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Speaker 2: to the attempt at assassination there at mar A Lago.

967
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Speaker 2: Go to the murder of two Israeli embassy workers in Washington,

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Speaker 2: d C. In Nashville, New Hampshire. Someone killed at a

969
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 2: wedding while they were screaming Free Palestine. Same thing as

970
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 2: true as what happened to the two Israeli embassy workers,

971
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Speaker 2: United Healthcare CEO. And look at the cheering of all

972
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Speaker 2: of this, the assassination of Charlie Kirk and the cheering

973
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Speaker 2: of all this, the multiple attacks on ICE agents in

974
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Speaker 2: Texas and in other places, and the cheering of this.

975
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Speaker 2: There is no desire to tone down the rhetoric. And

976
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Speaker 2: then here comes Chuck Schumer to say that Donald Trump

977
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Speaker 2: is totally deficient in uniting the country against political violence.

978
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 2: It has to come from the top, and like so

979
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Speaker 2: many other things, Donald Trump is deficient in this, totally deficient.

980
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 2: And where do they say that on MSNBC with Joe Scarborough.

981
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 2: Trump's deficient in this an MSNBC has all of the

982
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:21,560
Speaker 2: people who are out there engaged in all the conversations,

983
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 2: not toning down the rhetoric. Maybe maybe you missed some

984
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 2: of it, but I've got it for you. In order

985
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:34,639
Speaker 2: to understand, uh, exactly how bad it is, We're gonna

986
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Speaker 2: need a We're gonna need a montage. We're gonna need

987
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Speaker 2: a montage. And in this montage, Ice well there, Gestapo.

988
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 4: ICE is looking more and more like an American Gestapo.

989
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 6: They're huddled around the elevator banks in masks without identifying.

990
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 4: Information what they're terrifying like these are gestapo tactics.

991
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 2: But has created this year as they've seen the kind

992
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 2: of fascist Ice Gestopo militias go round Latino American citizens

993
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:19,679
Speaker 2: in places like La ICE agents masked ICE GESTOPO agents

994
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 2: getting more funding than any other law enforcement agency in

995
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 2: the history of the United States.

996
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,879
Speaker 5: Ice running Gestopo like around our country.

997
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 2: The Gestapo had the same function. It was there to

998
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 2: draw distinction between us and them. It was not federally.

999
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:41,680
Speaker 2: It was controlled from the by the leader, so understand it.

1000
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 2: And that was all MSNBC. By the way, all MSNBC commentators,

1001
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 2: there is no plan to tone down the rhetoric. None,

1002
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:56,559
Speaker 2: and they're getting ready for the streets. What was the

1003
01:09:56,640 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 2: exact term that was used, bropa, Mila jaia, Paul, strike

1004
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 2: ready and street ready. Yeah. Yeah, you should expect more violence. Sadly,

1005
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Speaker 2: as I said, the only way out is through. I'm

1006
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Speaker 2: Tony Katz and this is Tony Katz.

1007
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 11: Today that the FDA announced we are going to approve

1008
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 11: a drug called luca vorn for the treatment of autism

1009
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 11: and it may help fifty to sixty percent of kids

1010
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:27,720
Speaker 11: with autism. What we have learned about autism in our

1011
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 11: research since we were charged with identifying a cause or

1012
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 11: the causes of autism, is that one of the causes

1013
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 11: is that the receptor on the blood brain barrier that

1014
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:43,720
Speaker 11: allows folly to be transported into the brain is blocked

1015
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 11: by an antibody. In other words, autism may be an

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Speaker 11: autoimmune disease for some kids.

1017
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Speaker 2: That's doctor Martin McCary of the FDA talking about new

1018
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 2: advancements and new drugs available for autism. I don't know

1019
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 2: if it's gonna work. I certainly hope that it does.

1020
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Speaker 2: My connection to autism is very personal. Having grown up

1021
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 2: with an autistic brother doesn't make me an expert. But

1022
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Speaker 2: the idea that the Trump administration can discuss the issue

1023
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 2: with a set of metaphine, which is backed up in studies,

1024
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 2: and people are screaming, how dare you? This is all

1025
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 2: irrational when we should be at this moment very much

1026
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Speaker 2: discussing this. Doctor Robert Malone joins me in the next

1027
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 2: hour to break down what the science is, what the

1028
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 2: facts are, and what he thinks people should be doing.

1029
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 2: Keep it here. I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 1: Why from vall Hartbeyer and the Crossroads of America.

1031
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today. Just because President Trump says it

1032
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:57,600
Speaker 2: or advocates for it, just because Secretary Kennedy advocates for

1033
01:11:57,640 --> 01:11:59,760
Speaker 2: it or says it doesn't make it a bad thing.

1034
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 2: And yet there are progressives out there saying, what you

1035
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 2: think tailanol is bad for pregnant women here, let me

1036
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 2: show you, and they're just popping tailand all on videos

1037
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 2: and it's madness. They're going to news and say this

1038
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 2: is wrong, this is faulty science. That is not the

1039
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Speaker 2: case in the slightest Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good

1040
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Speaker 2: to be with you. Doctor Robert Malone joins me right now.

1041
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 2: A scientist, as you know him, he is one of

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01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 2: the committee members on the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices ACIP.

1043
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:35,680
Speaker 2: You can find his work at Malone dot news, and

1044
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 2: of course you may know his work and his conversations

1045
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 2: regarding COVID and his book Lies My Government Told Me

1046
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 2: and The Better Future Coming is available at Amazon dot

1047
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 2: com or wherever fine books are sold. Your work in

1048
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:53,719
Speaker 2: the ACIP is quite interesting in the conversation regarding vaccines

1049
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 2: as a whole. But let's break down this a see

1050
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Speaker 2: a metaphine tailanol conversation and autism. Did you take anything

1051
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 2: from President Trump and Secretary Kennedy's press conference or announcement

1052
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 2: there that, as a doctor gave you pause, that they

1053
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 2: were giving out faulty information or is that, we'd like

1054
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Speaker 2: to say in the biz misinformation. Absolutely not.

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Speaker 4: There's a recent meta analysis that was endorsed by the

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Speaker 4: and I think she was a co author by the

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Speaker 4: head of public health at Harvard Medical School that came

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Speaker 4: to the same conclusion.

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Speaker 2: The problem.

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Speaker 4: The data have been out there, as you say, and

1061
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:39,759
Speaker 4: more data are coming out from deep analysis of data

1062
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Speaker 4: that are being done within the federal government. But the

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Speaker 4: controversy revolves and particularly around a Dutch study that went

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Speaker 4: against the emerging consensus that thailand hall during pregnancy was

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Speaker 4: not indicated. It is associated with not only autism but

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Speaker 4: also adult I'm sorry, the ADHD hyperactivity disorder. And so

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Speaker 4: this Dutch study came out and said, no, we don't

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Speaker 4: see any association in a large population based study. But

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Speaker 4: what people miss is that the study only looked at

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Speaker 4: prescription use of a seed of menaphin, and there's also

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Speaker 4: over the counter, so it didn't show statistical differences in

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Speaker 4: the prescription versus non prescription group, in part because the

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Speaker 4: data were contaminated by people taking Cedo meniphin over the counter.

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Speaker 4: But that's what cited. And the backstory here is that

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Speaker 4: obstetricians and pediatricians have been overtreating fever for literally generations now,

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Speaker 4: and the drug of choice has been a cedamnic in ortylanol.

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Speaker 4: As we're finding out in these people you mentioned in

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Speaker 4: the lead, These instagram reels of people taking large amounts

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Speaker 4: of the seat of menafhin, one of the things that

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Speaker 4: was taught to me. You know, it's decades ago now

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Speaker 4: in medical school. A set of menaphin is a common

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Speaker 4: uh commonly used for people wanting to commit suicide. It

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Speaker 4: causes liver failure because it depletes glutathion, because you need

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Speaker 4: glutathion to metabolize the pseudomeniphin. And it's that same pathway

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Speaker 4: of glutathione depletion that seems to be affecting the fetal

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Speaker 4: and infant brain development. And so we have a clear

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Speaker 4: mechanism of action, we have abundant literature. We have, as

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Speaker 4: always happens, a couple of epidemiology studies that have un

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01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 4: accounted for confounders that didn't find a statistical difference. But

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Speaker 4: the preponderance of evidence is exactly as the President indicates,

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Speaker 4: you should not be taking this. And the core problem

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Speaker 4: is that all the other anti inflammatories that can be

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01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 4: used during pregnancy or in the young child are even worse.

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Speaker 4: So they're in kind of a box and that's how

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Speaker 4: we get to this point we're at right now.

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Speaker 2: But I think that for a lot of people hearing

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Speaker 2: you say that doctor Malone talking to doctor Robert Malone,

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Speaker 2: you can get more from him at Malone News. Is

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Speaker 2: that the way you're describing it? Oh yeah, this is

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Speaker 2: a known thing. This is a known thing. I think

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Speaker 2: hits a lot of people upside the head, including myself.

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Speaker 2: How is it possible that this is a known thing?

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Speaker 2: But we're only now engaged in the conversation of the

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Speaker 2: known thing.

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Speaker 4: So that's a really good question, and it comes down

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Speaker 4: to why wasn't this information made more widely available and

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Speaker 4: really emphasized by the FDA. I mean, the FDA has

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Speaker 4: fallen down here. The good news is they're now going

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01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:05,599
Speaker 4: to correct it with label changes and indication changes. It's

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Speaker 4: the pediatric societies have fallen down on their responsibility, and

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Speaker 4: has the obstetrics community and their professional societies. And why

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Speaker 4: that happened? You know, is there a surreptitious pharmaceutical industry

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Speaker 4: lobbying campaign to promote tailano? Well there could be, but

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Speaker 4: I don't have any clear evidence of that.

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Speaker 2: There's no smoking gun.

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Speaker 4: It could well be that we just have kind of

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01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 4: another massive group think thing going on, just like we

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01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 4: have with vaccines, that all vaccines are safe and effective,

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Speaker 4: whereas that's clearly not the case. Vaccines are like any

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Speaker 4: other drug. They have toxicities, they have strength and weaknesses.

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Speaker 4: They're great for some things, not so great for others.

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Speaker 4: And that's that's where we need to be, is to

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Speaker 4: stop politicizing and stop allowing the pharmaceutical industry and these

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Speaker 4: other large interests, including the professional societies or what you

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Speaker 4: might call guilds, to bias the data available to patients.

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Speaker 4: Patients should be in a position where they're fully informed

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Speaker 4: about risks and not subjected to harassment and basically bullying

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Speaker 4: by certain members of the medical profession.

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Speaker 2: That's what's going on here now. Everyone should always consult

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Speaker 2: with their own doctor before taking anything. But you talk

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01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 2: about sailinol being probably the most popular of these types

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01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 2: of medicines because other whether it's a ceta metaphine or

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01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:47,519
Speaker 2: something else, are worse for people are who are pregnant.

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of paraphrasing you. There is there something you

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Speaker 2: would recommend other than a ceda medaphine for relieving pain

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Speaker 2: in women who are in pregnancy.

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Speaker 4: And in the child. The problem is that the seed

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01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 4: of metafen or tylenol is the best of a bad lot,

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01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 4: or so the data indicate. And so what we really

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01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 4: have to do, in the absence of good alternatives and

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01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 4: then maybe out there, is to back off on overtreatment

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01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 4: of fever. Fever is something that is adaptive. That's why

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01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:28,560
Speaker 4: we have it. It is adaptive for a variety of

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01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 4: health conditions, including infectious disease. It's maladaptive if it gets

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01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 4: too high and too prolonged. But the reflexive treatment of

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01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:43,680
Speaker 4: any fever in pregnancy or the neonate that's got to

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01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:48,959
Speaker 4: stop it's fever is a natural part of the body's

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01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 4: response to a variety of things, not the least of

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01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 4: which is infection. And so what we really need to

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01:19:55,920 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 4: be focusing on is treating the underlying causes and understand

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Speaker 4: standing them, and not just reflexively treating fever.

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Speaker 2: Here's a good.

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Speaker 4: Anecdote for you. Please, we all hear about the Spanish

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Speaker 4: flu of nineteen eighteen, right right, This is underpins a

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Speaker 4: lot of the culture of modern public health. The fear

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Speaker 4: of the Spanish flu.

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Speaker 2: Well, the truth.

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Speaker 4: Is that a significant fraction of the deaths attributed to

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01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:32,120
Speaker 4: that influenza outbreak were the consequence of overtreating fever with

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01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 4: a hot new drug that had just been discovered, and

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01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:38,759
Speaker 4: people really didn't know about the proper dosing of that drug,

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Speaker 4: and so they started because you would get a fever

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Speaker 4: with this influenza, they started treating the fever and if

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Speaker 4: the fever didn't go down, they'd give more drug. The

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Speaker 4: drug was aspirin, and it killed people at high doses.

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Speaker 4: Aspirin will kill you, just like at high doses thailanol

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01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:02,520
Speaker 4: will kill you. It's been a long history of medicine

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Speaker 4: reflexively treating symptoms rather than the underline causes disease, and

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Speaker 4: not recognizing that many of the body's responses are adaptive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but most people, they have a fever, they don't

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Speaker 2: feel well, they got some pain, they pop too, they

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Speaker 2: feel better, and we've kind of we utilize it all

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Speaker 2: the time. I don't know is your argument not to

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Speaker 2: take it. I mean it's specifically for.

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Speaker 4: Pregnantism, but in pregnancy. In pregnancy because the fetal brain

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Speaker 4: and the infant brain is particularly sensitive to depletion of

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Speaker 4: glutathione and depletion of folic acid and so unfortunately, those

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Speaker 4: are pathways that are impacted by aceto meniphin. And I

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01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:56,840
Speaker 4: mentioned the biochemistry behind this. The liver metabolizes a set

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Speaker 4: of menaphin using gluteipio, and so when you have a

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01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 4: bullet of acedo menifin, it sucks up the available glue

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01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:10,880
Speaker 4: tothion in order to metabolize the drug and excrete it.

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Speaker 4: And it's not available for doing what it's intended for.

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Speaker 4: And one of those things has to do with clearly

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Speaker 4: with neurodevelopment in the infant or the fetus. And so

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Speaker 4: we're this, you're you're I'm glad to hear you kind

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Speaker 4: of gobsmacked by this.

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Speaker 2: Because it shows a lot of people are sir.

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Speaker 4: It shows how this narrative has been not made available

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Speaker 4: to patients. This is the kind of thing that your

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Speaker 4: doc should be talking to you about in the context

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Speaker 4: of informed consent, even for something seemingly as benign as tailanol.

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Speaker 4: Thailanol is quite toxic and it will kill you. As

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Speaker 4: people that are doing Instagram reel right now in overdosing

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Speaker 4: on tailan all are.

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Speaker 2: Finding out overdosing. Yes, on overdosing, I would agree more

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Speaker 2: with doctor Robert Malone coming up. I'm Tony Katz, and

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Speaker 2: this is Tony Katz today. So I continue my conversation

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Speaker 2: regarding autism Thailand, all the recommendations from the President, and

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Speaker 2: really because of the Secretary of Health and Human Services

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Speaker 2: Robert F. Kennedy, and a look at the actual data

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01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 2: regarding a set of METAFIT and pregnancy, because if you

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Speaker 2: look at the reaction from leftist press and leftists on

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01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:34,439
Speaker 2: social media, you might lose your mind and you certainly

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Speaker 2: won't know what's happening. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good

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01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 2: to be with you talking to doctor Robert Malone. Find

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Speaker 2: his work at Malone dot News and his book Lies

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01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:50,040
Speaker 2: My Government Told Me available at Amazon dot com. Let

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Speaker 2: me just switch gears on you just for a moment, sir,

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Speaker 2: because of your work with the ACIP on the Advisory

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Speaker 2: Committee on Immunization Practices and some of the changes we

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Speaker 2: seen from the CDC, not only on COVID vaccines but

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Speaker 2: on vaccines for children. Is people, if we listen to

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Speaker 2: news coverage, this is a denial of science. And this

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Speaker 2: is Secretary Kennedy being opposed to vaccines. And Toto, you're there,

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Speaker 2: you are on the committee. What is the purpose of

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Speaker 2: these new recommendations and the basis.

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Speaker 4: So what's happened over time is that the CDC has

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01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 4: developed an internal consensus that all vaccines are safe and

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Speaker 4: effective and that it's their mission. They truly believe this,

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Speaker 4: many of these people, not all of the CDC. There's

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Speaker 4: a bit of a war going on functionally within the

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Speaker 4: CDC right now between these people that are caught up

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Speaker 4: in the narrative that all vaccines are safe, effective and

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Speaker 4: their job at the CDC is to get shots in arms.

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Speaker 4: They that's the folks that are within that group, I

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Speaker 4: think earnestly believe that they're saving lives and that anything

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Speaker 4: that will cause quote vaccine hesitancy, any information that available

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01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 4: to the public about the true risks and benefits of

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Speaker 4: vaccines will lead to vaccine hesitancy, and that will lead

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Speaker 4: to excess loss of life. But that's a false narrative,

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Speaker 4: that's basically non science. That's that's cult behavior. What the

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Speaker 4: ASIP is now doing in the you know, the press

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01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:46,960
Speaker 4: is not really good at nuance and they're horrible at science.

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Speaker 4: These you know, these are folks that couldn't survive organic chemistry. Uh,

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Speaker 4: and they went into journalism. Uh. You know those that

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Speaker 4: are want to be physicians. But what's what's going on

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Speaker 4: is that Number one, the old ASIP committee was largely

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01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:12,240
Speaker 4: composed of people that were representing the interestry and academ

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01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:17,120
Speaker 4: and the various professional societies, and most of them in

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Speaker 4: the working groups in particular, had direct responsibilities and appointments

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Speaker 4: relating to their association with the you can call them

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Speaker 4: guilds or the various professional societies like the American Medical

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Speaker 4: Association or the American Academy of Pediatrics. It turns out

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Speaker 4: that's illegal. The ACIP exists because of this congressional act

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Speaker 4: called FACA, the Federal Advisory Committee Act, and the FACA

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01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 4: Act basically sets up that these large bureaucracies will have

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01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 4: a totally independent advisory group that can advise the director

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01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 4: in this case of the CDC, independently of the advice

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01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:14,240
Speaker 4: coming from the bureaucracy, in this case immunization practices. So

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Speaker 4: the people that are on the panel need to be

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Speaker 4: totally independent from any of these other advocacy groups and

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Speaker 4: from the bureaucracy. But what happened at the ACIP is

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Speaker 4: that the bureaucracy captured the ACIP. ACIP was not allowed

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Speaker 4: to set its own agenda. It wasn't allowed to appoint

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Speaker 4: its own members, It wasn't allowed to choose what it

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01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:41,760
Speaker 4: would investigate and report on and advise on. All that

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01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:47,360
Speaker 4: was controlled by the bureaucracy at CDC and basically controlled

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Speaker 4: by this cult to vaccination. And so that's why you

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01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:54,680
Speaker 4: ended up with the series of long standing series of

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Speaker 4: meetings where everything was predigested and basically pushed on the

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Speaker 4: public as as the gospel truth and never subjected to

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Speaker 4: any true scientific scrutiny. So those people, and some of

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Speaker 4: them had direct financial conflicts of interest, they were associated

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Speaker 4: with large pharmaceutical grounds, et cetera. They were removed, they

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Speaker 4: were retired by the secretary, and a new group was

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Speaker 4: brought in that didn't have those conflicts of interest, and

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Speaker 4: they the Secretary appointed people that were known to represent

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Speaker 4: you know, had had a significant experience in vaccine administration,

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Speaker 4: development oversight, epidemiology, et cetera, but didn't represent any of

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Speaker 4: these interest groups. And that's why the howling is because

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Speaker 4: the interest groups no longer have the ability, nor does

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Speaker 4: the CDC. That's why those resignations happen, by the way,

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Speaker 4: is because through the ACIP process, we got authorization to

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Speaker 4: be what we were intended to be, totally independent and

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Speaker 4: no longer controlled by the bureaucracy, And then it became

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Speaker 4: clear that we were going to ask questions that the

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Speaker 4: bureaucracy didn't want asked, for instance, the pediatric deaths.

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Speaker 2: This is a constant and continual consideration and conversation is

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Speaker 2: do these situations, these institutions, these agencies, do they exist

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Speaker 2: to service the citizen or do they exist to service

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Speaker 2: the institution?

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Speaker 4: Or that is exactly the center of the topic of

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Speaker 4: the issue is and to praise it in this particular context,

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Speaker 4: should public health, which is structured around utilitarian or socialist concepts,

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Speaker 4: be able to tell the general citizenry and patients what

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Speaker 4: they should and should not do and accept or not

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Speaker 4: accept in terms of medical procedures. And the rubber hits

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Speaker 4: the road with the vaccine mandates. That is classic current

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Speaker 4: public health logic. We're saving lives and so therefore we

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Speaker 4: have to mandate these procedures, these medical procedures on the

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Speaker 4: general population so that we save lives. But the problem

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Speaker 4: is when they do all their modeling, they only pick

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Speaker 4: certain variables. The even worse logic that's now being advanced,

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Speaker 4: the new bioethics is to advance the greatest happiness for

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Speaker 4: the greatest number. And that is completely contrary to the

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Speaker 4: classical physician patient relationship that is all about one on one.

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Speaker 4: The physician should be focused on that patient, should be

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Speaker 4: serving as an advisor and counselor to that patient. But

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Speaker 4: that particular patient, who's unique, has the authority to choose

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Speaker 4: to elect or to refuse any medical procedure. This is

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Speaker 4: the informed consent, and that's the tension. The tension is

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Speaker 4: between the rights of the individual and the rights of

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Speaker 4: the collective.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Robert Malone find his work at Malone dot News.

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Speaker 2: That's where you find it all. I appreciate you so

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Speaker 2: much for being here. We're gonna be having more of

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Speaker 2: these conversations. Guys. Keep it here. I'm Tony Katz and

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Speaker 2: this is Tony Katz today. Find everything at Tony Katz

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Speaker 2: dot com. So I saw a lot of people upset

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Speaker 2: with President Trump, but they were on the political left

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Speaker 2: and they're always upset with President Trump. And oh, look

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Speaker 2: he's bailing out Argentina and Wade. I thought Argentina was

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Speaker 2: the great miracle, and look what Malay was doing in Argentina.

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Speaker 2: I guess it was just a big failure. I guess

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Speaker 2: all those austerity measures didn't get you anything. Argentina was

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Speaker 2: better before. There's no way on the good Lord's green

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Speaker 2: earth that Argentina was better before. But there is something

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Speaker 2: really interesting going on with what the President is doing

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Speaker 2: and what the United States is going to do with Argentina.

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Speaker 2: That's usually saved for much larger, much more stable nations.

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, good to be with you.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Matt will joins US right now, economist at the

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Speaker 2: University of Indianapolis. Before we get to the Argentina story,

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Speaker 2: let's start with GDP three point eight percent revised growth

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Speaker 2: now in the second quarter, according to the US Bureau

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Speaker 2: of Economic Analysis, three point eight Listen, three percent was good.

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Speaker 2: Three point three was amazing For a country like hours,

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Speaker 2: with an output like hours, three point eight is insane,

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Speaker 2: is immeasurable. It's almost too fast. What is this number

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Speaker 2: and what does it say to you?

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Speaker 12: Well, it's a great number. I mean, you can't deny

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Speaker 12: it's a great number. But like you and I always do,

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Speaker 12: let's dig below the surface. There's two good parts and

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Speaker 12: one that yeah, that explains it. The two good parts

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Speaker 12: is consumer spending was up more than the first two estimates,

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Speaker 12: So the final number says, hey, consumers, they're confident, they're

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Speaker 12: buying stuff. And the second is massive investment in intellectual

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Speaker 12: property for AI. AI is driving this thing, equipment, intellectual property,

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Speaker 12: non residential AI investment. It's through the roof. And that's

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Speaker 12: the big number here. And the third one is imports

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Speaker 12: were down. It's an anomaly of the entire GDP formula.

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Speaker 12: Imports were up the first quarter front loading, heading in

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Speaker 12: front of the terrace, and then second quarter they snap back.

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Speaker 2: So if imports are down, that helps the GDP because

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Speaker 2: it means what.

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Speaker 12: It's just the form the formula is net imports exports.

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Speaker 12: It's part of the GDP formula. It's a part of it.

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Speaker 12: I don't agree with, I don't like it, but it's

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Speaker 12: just part of the Kinsian formula developed in the forties.

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Speaker 2: And we should we should really spend a little bit

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Speaker 2: of time on that one day, sir, that my conversation

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Speaker 2: regarding to the vieera of labor statistics and how we

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Speaker 2: take a look at inflation numbers, et cetera. Is it

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Speaker 2: because we are trying to politically maneuver numbers to fit

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Speaker 2: a political party or a political moment. Or is our

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Speaker 2: utilization of formulas just outdated and off base? Certainly, anything

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Speaker 2: Keynesian to me is out data and off base. But

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Speaker 2: is the formula no longer applicable to this modern world?

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Speaker 2: And what is it that is that needs to be

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Speaker 2: configured or considered in the configuration for a new model.

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Speaker 12: Yes, yes, yes, yes to your second point, it is old.

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Speaker 12: It's outdated. That's why eg Antoni is going to be

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Speaker 12: in charge of the Bureau of Labor Statistics. His job

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Speaker 12: is to fix the problem because their formulas are outdated.

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Speaker 12: The DEA formulas are outdated. You asked, what should the

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Speaker 12: fix be. It needs to be revised to include what

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Speaker 12: we call FBI foreign direct investment that is totally excluded

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Speaker 12: from the formula, which is absurd when all this money

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Speaker 12: is flooding into the United States from overseas, as Trump

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Speaker 12: points out, But it's not in the GDP formula. Yes, Tony,

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Speaker 12: the GDP formula is old. It needs to be revived

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Speaker 12: if we're.

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Speaker 2: Going to include foreign investment. Talking to doctor Matt Will

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Speaker 2: economists at the University of Indianapolis, you're saying that the

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Speaker 2: GDP should be seen as higher than it is.

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Speaker 12: Yes, well, okay, Tony, it's not so simple. Okay, there's

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Speaker 12: a lot of moving parts here. So I'm not going

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Speaker 12: to say it should be higher. I'm going to say

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Speaker 12: there's a lot of moving parts.

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Speaker 2: But give me one thing that you would if you

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Speaker 2: were adding this foreign direct investment. How does that show up?

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Speaker 2: How would you put that into the number and would

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Speaker 2: the number move up or down?

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Speaker 12: Okay, it would move up. Then it might cause some

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Speaker 12: things to go down. It goes up because if you

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Speaker 12: build a factory in Indiana and it's built with foreign money,

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Speaker 12: that's going to cause the GDP to go up. So

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Speaker 12: that's a good thing. And so what Trump is doing

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Speaker 12: with these foreign investments is a good thing. But at

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Speaker 12: the same time, in order to get more FDI, you

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Speaker 12: have to have a larger or smaller trade deficit. And

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Speaker 12: I can tell you trade deficits are good for the

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Speaker 12: United States because that gets more trade back and forth

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Speaker 12: and it lowers the cost of overall goods. So there's

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Speaker 12: two parts to this equation. It's not one simple formula.

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Speaker 2: And we're going back now to the conversation that we

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Speaker 2: should not be engaging trade policy based on, for example,

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Speaker 2: tariffs based on trade deficits, because trade deficits are not

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Speaker 2: necessarily bad things. Talking to doctor Matt Will, economists of

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Speaker 2: the University of Indianapolis, the argument against that is, well,

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Speaker 2: the problem is they're not buying our goods, not opening

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Speaker 2: up to our markets, not giving us markets, and then

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Speaker 2: trying to flood us with their things. That this has

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Speaker 2: been the back and forth really about American jobs more

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Speaker 2: than it is about the economy. But this is only

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Speaker 2: part one of our conversation. Part two is what's going

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Speaker 2: on with Argentina, where Trump has said he will provide

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Speaker 2: help to Argentina when it comes to their economy. They

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Speaker 2: had massive spending, massive issues. They bring in Javier Malay.

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Speaker 2: He starts engaging in austerity measures left and right. The

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Speaker 2: inflation rate in the matter of a year falls precipitously,

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Speaker 2: and it is an oh my gosh, look at what's

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Speaker 2: happening in Argentina. Great opportunity there. But when you're asking

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Speaker 2: the United States, hey, we need dollars, and we'll give

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Speaker 2: you our Argentinian peso, which isn't necessarily worth much and

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Speaker 2: hopefully it'll be worth more in the future, that's not

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Speaker 2: a great sign that all is well in the Argentinian economy.

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Speaker 12: No, but let me give it a little bit of

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Speaker 12: economic nerdy training here. They're asking for what's called a swapline.

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Speaker 12: A swap line is when Argentinians sell US pesos and

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Speaker 12: we give them dollars. It's just an exchange. Why do

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Speaker 12: they need to do this because the dollar is the

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Speaker 12: world's reserve currency and all transactions to current dollars. So

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Speaker 12: Argentinians cannot buy stuff unless they have dollars, and they

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Speaker 12: don't have enough net exports. They need more dollars. We're

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Speaker 12: not buying enough stuff from them. So ironically, the deficits,

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Speaker 12: the trade deficits that Trump is trying to eliminate, is

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Speaker 12: actually hurting Argentina because they don't have enough dollars. So,

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Speaker 12: but Trump can't do this on his own, Tony. He

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Speaker 12: can't just swap payesos for dollars. Only the Federal Reserve

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01:38:20,160 --> 01:38:22,960
Speaker 12: Board can do that. Only the Federal Reserve Board can

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01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:25,519
Speaker 12: exchange US dollars for another currency. So he has to

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Speaker 12: coordinate with them through the Treasury Department to make this happen.

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Speaker 12: It's a huge risk because what if they don't end

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Speaker 12: up getting dollars through trade, well, then they will not

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01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:38,160
Speaker 12: give us our dollars back. So it's as if we

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01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:40,439
Speaker 12: loan money to our college roommate and they never paid

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Speaker 12: us back. That's what we're getting into, and it's a

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01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:47,439
Speaker 12: high risk scenario that the US never does. We only

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01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:52,479
Speaker 12: do swap lines with euro Japan, Switzerland, the UK they

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Speaker 12: need temporary dollars. We never do it with developing countries.

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Speaker 12: This is a very unusual circumstance.

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Speaker 2: So let's get into the the the risk reward here.

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Speaker 2: This seems to be more of a geopolitical play in

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01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:11,800
Speaker 2: trying to create better alliances in South America. I would

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01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:15,599
Speaker 2: almost argue that this is a hedge against China and

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01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:20,080
Speaker 2: their continued assertion of dominance in South America, in our

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01:39:20,160 --> 01:39:23,880
Speaker 2: in our hemispheres. But the the going back to just

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01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:28,479
Speaker 2: how the how the mathematics works, and this swap line,

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01:39:29,240 --> 01:39:32,479
Speaker 2: we take their pa sos, they get our dollars, and

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Speaker 2: as you brought up, the fear is they may not

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01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:40,360
Speaker 2: be able to give those dollars back. How does that manifest?

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01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:44,880
Speaker 2: Meaning what mistake gets made? What issue does Argentina run

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01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:48,240
Speaker 2: into that they are not able to overcome? That they

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01:39:48,320 --> 01:39:50,760
Speaker 2: can't basically get us our money back.

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Speaker 12: Well, there's they're going to get the two things could happen.

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01:39:54,680 --> 01:39:57,200
Speaker 12: They have to sell their products around the world and

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01:39:57,240 --> 01:39:58,840
Speaker 12: collect dollars.

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Speaker 2: It's that simple.

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01:39:59,520 --> 01:40:02,080
Speaker 12: They simply have to sell Argentinean beef to somebody to

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01:40:02,120 --> 01:40:04,800
Speaker 12: collect dollars. They need to have more tourists come to

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01:40:04,840 --> 01:40:08,320
Speaker 12: their country so that they leave dollars behind. They simply

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01:40:08,360 --> 01:40:10,599
Speaker 12: need dollars so that they can then trade them back

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01:40:10,640 --> 01:40:13,080
Speaker 12: for the paesos. So that's one part of it. The

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Speaker 12: other part is when that exchange occurs, what if the

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Speaker 12: peso is weaker, so we get fewer dollars when we

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Speaker 12: exchange the pesos in our pocket, in our reserve. So

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Speaker 12: that's the risk is the peso gets weaker, by the way,

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Speaker 12: it's been getting weaker over the years, and it's still

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Speaker 12: getting weaker, and that they don't collect enough dollars to

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Speaker 12: pay us back. It's unlikely, Tony, It's very unlikely that

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Speaker 12: they will swap back the same number of dollars that

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Speaker 12: we give them.

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Speaker 2: So again I go to, you know, the question of

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01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:45,639
Speaker 2: why do we do this? I have to assume there's

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Speaker 2: some geopolitics at play here. But if we engage this politically,

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Speaker 2: people will say, well, I guess Malaya was wrong, and

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Speaker 2: I guess all this austerity didn't work. And again all

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Speaker 2: these spending cuts didn't work. Argentina was in a much

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01:40:58,680 --> 01:41:02,920
Speaker 2: better place before I'm Malay got elected. That's not true.

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Speaker 12: No, No, that is that one hundred percent false. This

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01:41:06,680 --> 01:41:10,120
Speaker 12: country has revolutionized themselves in the last few years since

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Speaker 12: he's been president. They had a budget surplus last year.

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Speaker 12: It may not maintain this year. It looks like they

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Speaker 12: may be stable in a flat to slight deficit, but

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Speaker 12: nothing like they were before. Their currency has stabilized. It's

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Speaker 12: still weak, it's still getting weaker, but it's nothing. They

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Speaker 12: used to have what's called the blue rate. You would

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Speaker 12: have a black market rate to exchange the Argentinian peso

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Speaker 12: because the government rate was so bad. No, Tony, this

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Speaker 12: has been an economic miracle. Let's not confuse it. But

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Speaker 12: they aren't finished with the job yet. And that's where

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Speaker 12: we're at. And I think this You're right, it may

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Speaker 12: be geopolitical, but it may also be Trump just saying okay,

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Speaker 12: let's give them a nudge to get across the finish line.

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Speaker 2: Talking to doctor Matt Will, economist at the University of Indianapolis.

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Speaker 2: It is interesting and it does strike to you exactly

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Speaker 2: what can we afford or maybe more to the point,

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Speaker 2: what can't we afford? Never mind why this might be smart.

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Speaker 2: On a geopolitical basis, I could. I could without knowing

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Speaker 2: any other information. I think I could sell that story

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01:42:18,600 --> 01:42:25,120
Speaker 2: regarding China and hegemonic power. But it is the United

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01:42:25,200 --> 01:42:29,680
Speaker 2: States in a position to make this kind of move economically,

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Speaker 2: and yes we are, I mean, think of it.

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Speaker 12: We pulled back all this a USAID which was total

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01:42:36,920 --> 01:42:40,040
Speaker 12: bogus junk that we were giving money away around the world.

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01:42:40,600 --> 01:42:43,280
Speaker 12: Why not why not take some of those dollars and

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Speaker 12: help a friendly nation that is shifting from capitalism, I mean,

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Speaker 12: from socialism to capitalism. Do we want them to go

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Speaker 12: back to the socialist, corrupt government they had before? I again, Tony,

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Speaker 12: I'm not saying I'm in favor or against this. From

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Speaker 12: a pure economic stamp, I don't like it. But from

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Speaker 12: a geopolitical standpoint, I understand we have a good capitalist friend.

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Speaker 12: Do we want him to succeed or do you want

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Speaker 12: the corrupt people to come back in and take it

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Speaker 12: over and go back to the way it was, which

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Speaker 12: was a disaster.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of good capitalism, which is to say, just capitalism.

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Speaker 2: The story came out yesterday and here is where I

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Speaker 2: bring you something that I didn't mention. I was going

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Speaker 2: to bring up the Chicago Bears. There's a two point

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01:43:30,120 --> 01:43:33,400
Speaker 2: three five percent minority steak that is sold and because

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Speaker 2: of the value of that steak, that means that the

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Speaker 2: Chicago Bears are valued at eight point nine billion dollars.

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Speaker 2: And you had Robert Kraft the Patriots engaging a small

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01:43:45,680 --> 01:43:48,839
Speaker 2: sale of some shares, and that puts the New England

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Speaker 2: Patriots at a value of nine billion dollars as well.

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Speaker 2: First of all, the Bears are worth the same amount

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Speaker 2: as the Patriots not buying it. Secondly, NFL teams are

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01:43:59,120 --> 01:44:01,160
Speaker 2: now worth nine billion dollars. Sir.

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Speaker 12: I hate to say this, but yes, yes, when you

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Speaker 12: take the present value of the cash flows generated, this

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01:44:10,479 --> 01:44:12,680
Speaker 12: is a money making machine. How do you think they

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Speaker 12: can afford to pay some of these players hundreds of

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Speaker 12: millions of dollars? I mean, it boggles the mind the

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Speaker 12: amount of cash generated by the NFL and they continue

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Speaker 12: to make it. Some of these companies, take the Colts

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Speaker 12: for example. The Colts owners used to be in other businesses.

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Speaker 12: They've said, heck, what do we need another business for.

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Speaker 12: We've got NFL football. It's the most profitable business on

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Speaker 12: the planet. It's a money making machine and something is

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Speaker 12: worth what somebody else is willing to pay for it.

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Speaker 2: I still think that that falls in and this is

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Speaker 2: the most exclusive club possibly in the world, owning an

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Speaker 2: NFL team. Doctor Matt Weell, economist at the University of Indianapolis,

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Speaker 2: appreciate you more. Coming up on Tony katz Biger wanted

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Speaker 2: to be on the right side of history.

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Speaker 13: Do you want to be the one who caved to

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Speaker 13: the White House and took a really institution off the air?

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Speaker 13: Late night television has been with us for a long time.

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Speaker 2: And you could see last night it can really galvanize

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Speaker 2: the country. It was a very old fashioned moment.

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Speaker 13: We all sat down and wanted at the same time

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Speaker 13: and wanted to hear what he had to stay.

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Speaker 2: And it's become.

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Speaker 13: There's been a national conversation about.

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Speaker 2: It for days. You don't want to lose that, and.

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Speaker 13: That's what's under attack, and I think that I think

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Speaker 13: Jimmy defended it.

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Speaker 2: You think Jimmy Kimmel is galvanizing the country? Is this

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Speaker 2: the argument that exists on MSNBC, and the answer is yes,

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Speaker 2: this is how they phrased Jimmy Kimmel returning to ABC.

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Speaker 2: Well galvanized the country, and it really shows how important

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Speaker 2: Late Night is to half the country because half the

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01:45:59,200 --> 01:46:02,479
Speaker 2: country got alienated from it. Half the country got mocked

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Speaker 2: so viciously, so brutally, half the country so hated by

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Speaker 2: Stephen Colbert, by Jimmy Gimmel, by Seth Myers, that they

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Speaker 2: said forget it, we'll leave, never mind the Daily Show

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Speaker 2: or anything else that's out there. I don't think Fallon

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Speaker 2: hates half the country. I think he goes with that flow.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know who is the guy on CBS

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Speaker 2: after Colbert. Oh, I can picture him. I think he

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Speaker 2: was James Cordon. Yeah, I don't. He may very well

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Speaker 2: have hated, but I think he tried to play as

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01:46:32,479 --> 01:46:34,519
Speaker 2: he was a little more aloof than that. But I

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Speaker 2: don't know if that necessarily held. Also, I don't know

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Speaker 2: who was watching that show. What a statement. And now

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Speaker 2: I'm going to hear about how he is setting tone.

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Speaker 13: I think he gets such a proper tone and trying

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Speaker 13: to comfort people.

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Speaker 2: Who were perhaps disturbed.

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Speaker 13: That you were talking about this in a comedy monologue

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Speaker 13: when people were still wrong about it, and he stayed

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Speaker 13: on brand. The rest of the show was tough, a

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Speaker 13: topical political comedy.

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Speaker 2: I didn't watch the rest of the show, so I

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01:47:04,320 --> 01:47:06,000
Speaker 2: don't know, and you didn't watch the rest of the show,

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Speaker 2: so you don't know. And sixty affiliates of ABC didn't

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Speaker 2: watch the show. Yet somehow, the ratings before that first

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01:47:13,040 --> 01:47:16,800
Speaker 2: time back were sky high. I think that's an anomaly.

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01:47:17,720 --> 01:47:20,360
Speaker 2: And I think the idea that Late Night is setting

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01:47:20,360 --> 01:47:22,920
Speaker 2: the tone for anybody is the kind of thing you

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01:47:22,960 --> 01:47:27,200
Speaker 2: hear on MSNBC and doesn't track with anything having to

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01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:30,760
Speaker 2: do with reality at all. But it's what they tell

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Speaker 2: their audience. It's what they sell, it's what they say.

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Speaker 2: It isn't what is real. Find everything at Tony kats

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Speaker 2: dot com. That's real. That mother blanker is real. I'll

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Speaker 2: catch it tomorrow. A new Money, Take Care