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Speaker 1: on ninety three five and one oh seven the Fan.

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Speaker 2: And in Toronto, when the green flag flies, we.

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Speaker 3: Will be racing. And we are racing.

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Speaker 2: And Colton heard her immediately with the advantage and we

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Speaker 2: see a full court much here it is and McLachlin

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Speaker 2: we've got a flat, Rossiere Rossie.

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Speaker 1: I think that's more than a flat. I think that's contact.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like he's gone into the wall given

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Speaker 2: the bodywork damage. Flailing around back to full course caution.

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Speaker 2: Here at Toronto, Jacob Abel who was being passed by

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Speaker 2: nowhere to go once again.

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Speaker 3: Oh and we have a Rosy quest and that is

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Speaker 3: down at turn ten, guys three to go. That might

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Speaker 4: Highlights from IndyCar at Toronto, courtesy of Fox Sports from

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Speaker 4: this past Sunday. Hello, welcome, thanks for joining us. It's

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Speaker 4: track Side ninety three five, one oh seven five The Fan.

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Speaker 4: Tonight's less plausibly live on this edition of the program.

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Speaker 4: Landon Coons is in the studio at this moments in

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Speaker 4: downtown Indianapolis. I'm Kevin Lee along with Kurk Cavin. Full

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Speaker 4: disclosure in case somebody got sacked today, or the schedule

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Speaker 4: on a late Tuesday afternoon, so you're on your own

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Speaker 3: I believe it's Wednesday.

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Speaker 4: Night if you're listening to this live on the radio

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Speaker 4: lot to get to tonight, we'll just kind of bounce around,

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Speaker 4: free flowing thoughts on silly season is really ramping up.

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Speaker 4: There's been a lot of schedule reporting, a lot of things.

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Speaker 4: I think we're all kind of on the same page.

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Speaker 4: We're all kind of hearing the same things. When I

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Speaker 4: read what racer dot Com and The Indianapolis Star are

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Speaker 4: writing it's mostly things that I've shared of random thoughts.

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Speaker 4: Still nothing definitive next year, but we're getting a little

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Speaker 4: closer on some things, and it seems like some more

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about the race yet again.

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Speaker 4: I think a very entertaining race with a lot of storylines,

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Speaker 4: and I will admit quite a bit confusing, but it

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Speaker 4: comes out with Poto Award has won two of the

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, I'm not a big fan of saying well,

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Speaker 1: that was the best race of this season, And I

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Speaker 1: Poto won. He's a popular winner. Of course, he's now won,

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Speaker 1: That's right. So he essentially completes his two laps of

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Speaker 4: let's just pack it in.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't just the car was in an accident. All

438
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Speaker 1: four corners were impacted and they had to throw in

439
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Speaker 1: a new car they had and they had three hours.

440
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Speaker 1: It wasn't like they had, you know, a day and

441
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Speaker 1: a half. They had three hours max.

442
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Speaker 4: And that yeah, let's yeah, so we need to make

443
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Speaker 4: sure that he's going to be okay, that his hand

444
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Speaker 4: is okay. So that'll be one thing we'll watch and

445
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Speaker 4: probably get official confirmation on Thursday morning. If not, uh,

446
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Speaker 4: maybe it's already come out at some point today. Uh,

447
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Speaker 4: silly season. Quick update. I got nothing definitive other than,

448
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Speaker 4: as we would say, chatter in the paddock. So I've

449
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 4: been saying all along with no sourcing. It's just I

450
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Speaker 4: think Will Power is going to be driving at twelve

451
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Speaker 4: next year, and I think you've agreed with me on

452
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Speaker 4: that just.

453
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Speaker 3: Just makes sense.

454
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Speaker 4: I am much less confident of that today than I

455
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Speaker 4: was a few weeks ago, from just the sense and

456
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Speaker 4: from hearing people, and I kind of feel like I'm

457
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Speaker 4: in the same place I was with Elio a few

458
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Speaker 4: years ago, because I'm looking at a big picture, well one.

459
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Speaker 3: I like Will just like I liked Eloh and still

460
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Speaker 3: like l e Oh. But I think they're great for

461
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Speaker 3: the sport.

462
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Speaker 4: Eloh was and maybe still is one of the top

463
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Speaker 4: three most popular drivers doing one race a year, and

464
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Speaker 4: Will is not only one of the more popular drivers,

465
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Speaker 4: but he's interesting.

466
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Speaker 3: He's unique.

467
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Speaker 4: He is one of not just one of the top

468
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Speaker 4: five or ten greatest drivers.

469
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Speaker 3: Ever, but one of the most unique.

470
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Speaker 4: And original people you will ever meet. And I say

471
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 4: that in a good way. And I want him to

472
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Speaker 4: be in the sport because he's not vanilla.

473
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Speaker 3: He shows you emotion.

474
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Speaker 4: He's got enough success where he's a little more okay

475
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Speaker 4: telling you and showing you what he actually thinks.

476
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Speaker 3: But I don't know.

477
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Speaker 4: People don't delay good news.

478
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Speaker 1: They don't, they don't.

479
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Speaker 4: Penske's deals have always been done in the spring, and

480
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Speaker 4: I'm starting to fear and I don't have this on

481
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Speaker 4: authority either. At any point, I cannot report this. I

482
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Speaker 4: can't even tell anyone privately.

483
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Speaker 3: I know this is the case.

484
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Speaker 4: But I'm starting to wonder if there was something written

485
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Speaker 4: in the Malucas agreement that also I can't prove. But

486
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Speaker 4: many people say, is there that he's moving to Penske

487
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Speaker 4: next year. That's what a lot of people think.

488
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Speaker 1: Well, I think that that makes a lot of sense,

489
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Speaker 1: because why you know, they when they did this deal,

490
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Speaker 1: that would be a thing you would expect to perhaps

491
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Speaker 1: be in writing.

492
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Speaker 3: I didn't expect that.

493
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Speaker 1: Now.

494
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Speaker 3: I didn't expect that it had to be one year.

495
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Speaker 1: I could talk myself into either one. What I kept

496
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Speaker 1: hanging my hopes up with Will on was the management

497
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Speaker 1: changes created a vacuum where they weren't ready to make

498
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Speaker 1: a final decision, you know. But he just keeps saying,

499
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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, And it would seem it's

500
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Speaker 1: very on Penske like for this, for this still to

501
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Speaker 1: be dangling in the air.

502
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Speaker 4: The only thing that could bow well for Will is

503
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Speaker 4: maybe it's not done. I've said this before too, because

504
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 4: there is a performance clause, meaning if David finishes at

505
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 4: some place in the championship and or wins a race,

506
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 4: you are guaranteed of Penske seats. Now, even if all

507
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 4: this is written in, I still think there is a scenario.

508
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Speaker 3: Here's what I do.

509
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Speaker 4: I would try to convince David Malucas to do one

510
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Speaker 4: more year at aj Foyd Racing because there will be

511
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 4: less pressure, make him more part of Team Penske. Let's

512
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Speaker 4: actually have them participate in the driver debriefs. Santino Ferrucci

513
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 4: said on Hinch and Rossi's podcast a couple of weeks

514
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Speaker 4: ago that there is no interaction. The engineers talk amongst

515
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 4: themselves and maybe it's just Santito. Maybe David is invited in,

516
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 4: but he has no interaction other than if he happens

517
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Speaker 4: to walk by one of the Penske drivers, and Will

518
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 4: is probably the one that's more likely to chat with

519
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 4: him a little bit. But there's no official relationship between

520
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 4: the drivers, not debriefing together or do anything. Maybe that

521
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 4: becomes a little bit more part of it for the

522
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 4: greater good of the team, having will.

523
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Speaker 3: Power a part of it.

524
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 4: Again, this was noted highest qualifying Chevy going into the weekend.

525
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 4: Now the race is han't gone great, but he's still

526
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Speaker 4: highest in the championship of that team. I think it

527
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 4: would help David to have one more year. A lot

528
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 4: of pressure coming in trying to match Joseph Neugarten, Scott McLaughlin. Yeah,

529
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 4: this year he's better than them. I know that he's

530
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 4: better than them in points, but on pace he is

531
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 4: not quite there yet. So we will see. But if

532
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 4: that does happen, does Roger Penske say all right, we're

533
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 4: going to continue this technical relationship and strengthen it some more.

534
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 4: And history would say, you know, Montoya was moved out

535
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 4: when he was still pretty competitive, same with Elio castro Neves.

536
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 3: A lot good teams do it that way.

537
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 4: We would rather move on too early than too late,

538
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 4: especially if we feel like we have a worthy replacement.

539
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 4: And you know, with what I said about I think

540
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 4: it'd be good for Malucas. I also understand I may

541
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 4: not know what I'm talking about. Yeah, you know the

542
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 4: people at Team Penske. Now, those people, so Tim Sindric

543
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 4: or Roger or Ron Razuski, you know, the people that

544
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 4: would have made this decision a year ago.

545
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 3: They do know more about this than I do.

546
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 4: And they may have spotted something and said, David Malucas

547
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 4: is going to be Alex Polow if you put him

548
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 4: in the right situation, because nobody saw that coming with

549
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 4: Alex Polo. After he finishes nineteenth or whatever it was

550
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 4: with dale Coin Racing and wins a championship the next year.

551
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:52,239
Speaker 4: So I get that, but maybe someone says, all right,

552
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 4: I don't see anywhere for will to go.

553
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:54,959
Speaker 3: He's good for the sport.

554
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 4: We're going to continue to help aj Foyd Racing, and

555
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 4: we are going to find a sponsor for wheel power

556
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 4: to slot in that car with a Penske engineer like

557
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 4: James Schnoppel. So that scenario was there. If not, I'm

558
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 4: not sure where he goes. And then you get back

559
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 4: to Renas Vike, who is a free agent. I might

560
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 4: argue that he should, you know, unless Penske can ask

561
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 4: your Andretti or McLaren come calling, and maybe you put

562
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 4: Meyer Shank in that category.

563
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 3: Two.

564
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 4: So that is a lot of teams. But if one

565
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 4: of those comes through, you take it. But if they don't,

566
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 4: maybe you just stay where you're at instead of moving

567
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 4: to Hunko's Hollinger if there's a seat open there, or

568
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 4: Prema or Ray Hall, Letterman Lantagan, maybe you're better off

569
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 4: just where you're at and continue to overachieve. Don't know,

570
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 4: depends on financials. Two questions I don't have answers for.

571
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 4: I don't expect you to either. How is the pressure

572
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 4: different for David Malucas in twenty six against Joseph and

573
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 4: Scott Maclachlin's teammates versus two twenty seven?

574
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: I mean, how is it? How is your pressure any different?

575
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: And then second of all, how is all this maneuvering,

576
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: especially with aj foyight in mind? Where does Miles Row

577
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: factor in? And do you do you need a spot

578
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: for him?

579
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 3: Great question?

580
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 4: First one is I'm looking more at the new Garden

581
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 4: template that team Penske normally takes finished products.

582
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 3: The only one. They didn't with.

583
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,719
Speaker 4: Scott McLaughlin, who was a three time champion in another series,

584
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 4: but New Garden won multiple races, was in the championship

585
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 4: fight two years. Lucas has done neither yet. I think

586
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 4: it would be good for him to do that next year.

587
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 4: The goal should be let's be in the top five.

588
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 4: Let's boost that team, see what they need to make

589
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 4: them a real fighter. Now maybe the feeling is he's

590
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 4: never going to get that. We need to get him

591
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 4: over in Team penske Land. So that's the scenario there.

592
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 4: Miles is an interesting category. So he wins last.

593
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 3: Week on in Iowa at Iowa, is.

594
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,959
Speaker 4: He ready Maybe yeah? And that might impact powers chances.

595
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 4: I think that is part of it. I would think

596
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 4: the goal was that Miles, especially if the plan was

597
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 4: one and done at Foight with Malucas, is that Miles

598
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 4: Row is going there next. That's what we've always all

599
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 4: thought that that's an incentive in this partnership is there

600
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 4: is a place for Miles Row. And I think you'd

601
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 4: prefer someone being like first, second, and third in the

602
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 4: championship and he can still get to third.

603
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 3: He has won a race.

604
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 4: I'm going to duck that question and say, let's wait,

605
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 4: if he wins one more race this year, I think

606
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 4: you could start to make the argument that Miles might

607
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 4: be ready if he does not finish strong, He's every

608
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 4: bit and more so ready than Kevin Simpson will different scenario,

609
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 4: I understand.

610
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 3: I understand, Yeah.

611
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 4: That they were funding the team and I think they

612
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 4: decided we're coming to IndyCar, and they also wanted to

613
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 4: get to IndyCar before the charters.

614
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 3: Came on board.

615
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 4: That was part of the hurry too, before they they

616
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 4: knock things down. Yeah, it's a great, great debate and

617
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 4: that does impact things as well next year. But I

618
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,480
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619
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Speaker 4: That but we will have everything covered On. Fox by the,

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Speaker 4: way thanks for joining us from THE bet three six

657
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 4: five command center. Tonight on, trackside here's our schedule for

658
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 4: Mother Tech, Raceway, Laguna seka coming up this. Weekend first

659
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 4: practice IS i Think i've got eastern times four o'clock For.

660
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 4: Indy next ON fs two you say it's For. Indy

661
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 4: next five O'clock eastern time For. IndyCar then another next

662
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 4: practice at six thirty five. Eastern everything IS fs two On.

663
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 4: Friday saturday starts at eleven thirty, eastern eight thirty local

664
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,720
Speaker 4: ON fs one For, IndyCar then An indie next session

665
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,439
Speaker 4: ON fs, One IndyCar qualifying is a two to thirty five,

666
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,240
Speaker 4: eastern and then we'll have this is the ONLY fs

667
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 4: two race of the year For indy next four to

668
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 4: Thirty eastern Times saturday, afternoon the First indie next RACE

669
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 4: fs Two. Sunday the warm up is ON fs two

670
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 4: at Noon. EASTERN fs one has the next race at one,

671
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 4: o'clock and then we're On fox at three O'clock eastern,

672
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 4: Time new and Local Green flag at three twenty Two

673
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 4: eastern coming up On sunday. Afternoon love this trip and

674
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 4: can't wait for. It, oh by the, WAY i mentioned

675
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 4: my bag didn't get. Home i'm still working on. That

676
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,720
Speaker 4: and that's the. Reason is Because honko's Holloing A racing

677
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 4: was kind enough to let me jump on on one

678
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 4: of their seats that had become vacant for The IndyCar team.

679
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 4: Charter it's not really a, charter it's just they pool

680
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:07,439
Speaker 4: together and buy up a commercial flight and the flight

681
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 4: attendants always look confused when everyone knows each other and

682
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 4: no one pays attention to their. Directions but it was

683
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 4: nice to get on, that and that was the only

684
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 4: WAY i was going to get home Before monday. Night

685
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 4: SO i abandoned my bag and got home On. Sunday

686
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 4: and we'll see my bag at some point down the.

687
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 4: Road schedule stuff.

688
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 3: Helped.

689
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 4: Me i've seen a lot of things in the last few,

690
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 4: days SO i just kind of feurized that Maybe IndyCar

691
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 4: AND nascar could work. Together Nathan brown had a good

692
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 4: story in The Indianapolis star and he writes that actually

693
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 4: had been, discussed and we now know it's not going to,

694
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 4: happen BECAUSE i think we've known for a couple of

695
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,439
Speaker 4: weeks and it's been confirmed NOW nascar is not going

696
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 4: back To Mexico, city And IndyCar.

697
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 3: May not be there in the.

698
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 4: Spring they're talking about summer at this point for various.

699
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 4: Reasons what else FOR? NASCAR i think San diego.

700
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 3: Is all but.

701
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 4: Confirmed there's been a lot of, reporting And i've heard

702
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 4: in a lot of places that's going to be In

703
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 4: june FOR nascar for The Cup. Series Nathan brown wrotees

704
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 4: in The star his sources are telling Him iowa is,

705
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 4: unlikely AND i mean he may have used a different,

706
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 4: word but that's WHAT i took from. THAT i don't

707
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 4: know that no one has told. ME i still think

708
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 4: it just depends on what they can make. Happen my

709
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 4: opinion would be there is still a chance Of, iowa

710
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 4: but they're looking to see if there are other. Options

711
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 4: it's pretty clear that he is difficult to. Do i'm

712
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 4: still curious what would A saturday night race? Do If

713
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 4: fox is willing to let you do A saturday night,

714
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 4: race can you do? It are you willing to try

715
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 4: to do what it might take to spread the word

716
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 4: and make that? Work can it? WORK i understand if

717
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 4: you say it. Can't there wasn't very many people. There, Richmond, Homestead.

718
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 4: Phoenix those are all things That i've thrown, out And

719
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 4: nathan wrote. THEM i think everyone is hearing. THAT i

720
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:15,919
Speaker 4: don't know how likely some. Are we need to see

721
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 4: The cup. Schedule that'll help. THINGS i don't know if

722
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 4: they have that all done internally to be able to.

723
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 4: Compare can you do a doubleheader WITH nascar at any

724
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 4: of those? Tracks that makes things a lot. Easier if

725
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 4: it's in the spring with both On, fox that solves

726
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 4: a lot of, problems adds to a lot of. PROMOTION

727
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 4: i Think nathan wrote that he's Hearing toronto And portland were.

728
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 4: Likely i'd been Hearing toronto was okay. Too actually haven't

729
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 4: heard anything one way or the other About, portland but

730
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 4: it makes. Sense Green savary is a strong. PARTNER i

731
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 4: would imagine it helps them to have four IndyCar races

732
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 4: to kind of work together when you add In Saint

733
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:05,720
Speaker 4: pete and Mid ohio that a big package probably works

734
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 4: well for. Everyone BUT i don't THINK i know anything.

735
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 4: Else and What i'm most worried about is how big

736
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 4: is that gap going to be in the. SPRING i

737
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 4: hope there's SOMETHING i don't know to lessen that.

738
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: Gap, NO i think you're. RIGHT i have that same

739
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: fear as. Well The Mexico city sounds like AND i

740
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: Think nathan even pinpointed. THIS i had heard this in other,

741
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: circles none of which at sixteenth In, georgetown BUT i

742
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: had heard in some circles that it would be paired

743
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: With Laguna seca, perhaps and that it might also Be

744
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: brickyard four hundred. Weekend SO i hope not to that's,

745
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: doubles hope's. Not it's a divide and conquer this weekend

746
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: in terms Of IndyCar AND ims management and The penske.

747
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 1: ENTERTAINMENT i Know, rogers you, know going to be one

748
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 1: spot And Mark miles will be. Another Doug bowles mate

749
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: is going to try to do. Both so it's, yep

750
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 1: and and you go right down through the leadership and

751
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: divide and. Conquer so tough. SITUATION i don't know how

752
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: you get around, it aside, from you, know just making

753
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: moving heaven and earth to do.

754
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 4: So SO i don't know a timeline for some. Things

755
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 4: it might take a little more time to work things

756
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 4: out if they're trying to figure if they'd like to

757
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 4: keep another. Oval i'm sure the other option is to

758
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 4: do a double header At, milwaukee which is A penske promoted.

759
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 4: Race my hope is that's not the.

760
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 3: CASE i get.

761
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 4: It if it, happens it probably strengthens the bottom line

762
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 4: for that event if you do. That But i'd Love

763
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 4: i'd Loved, RICHMOND i Love. Phoenix i'd love to love

764
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 4: them with people there watching the race, though you know

765
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 4: that that's kind of the. Key homestead wasn't super well,

766
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 4: attended but short track racing In IndyCar has been pretty.

767
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 3: Good, yeah they.

768
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,240
Speaker 4: Have they have figured out an. Package SO i think

769
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 4: some of those things would be interesting to. See so

770
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 4: we shall find, out all, right we will see what

771
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 4: we missed next on track. Side, hi this Is Rene's

772
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 4: feke and you're listening To Trex yath final. Segment WHEN

773
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 4: i talked silly, SEASON i should have thrown in. This

774
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 4: you might Watch Zach brown on the morning warm up

775
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 4: From sunday The errol McLaren. Ceo he mentioned that the

776
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 4: driver lineup is, confirmed and as they were finishing it,

777
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 4: up by the, way.

778
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 3: Really good, CONVERSATION i think it.

779
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 4: Was you, Know zach has a bit of a, reputation

780
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 4: but it was good to have more than a thirty second.

781
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 3: Interview with him to really get into some of his.

782
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 3: THOUGHTS i Like.

783
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 4: ZACH i know you've Known zach a lot longer and

784
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 4: a lot better than. Me but at the, End buckson

785
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 4: or someone said, okay and you, said everybody's set for next.

786
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 4: Year all three drivers were, returning And zach said they're all.

787
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 4: Confirmed they're confirmed until they are. Not and then he,

788
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 4: said just. Joking but that's what it. Is that contracts

789
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 4: are just kind of suggestions and when you everyone gets

790
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 4: replaced at some. Point so that's just the way it.

791
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 4: Is do you have ANYTHING i missed that we need to? Say,

792
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 4: NO i don't think.

793
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 1: SO i did find it interesting and just you know

794
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: how closely the careers Of poto And colton have been

795
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: over the. Years you, know they've been racing together and

796
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: against each, other and they were teammates briefly and all

797
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: the things that go with. It how about the stat

798
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: they both have nine Career IndyCar series. Wins at this,

799
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: point they are on the same. Trajectory, Still potter's in

800
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: line for his best career finish in terms of the season.

801
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,720
Speaker 1: Standing it's been great to watch those two come, together

802
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: and they're both going for number ten this, weekend so

803
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 1: let's see if one of them can get there ahead

804
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: of the other.

805
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 4: ONE i enjoy The brickyard if you are In, indianapolis

806
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 4: and please watch us On fox this weekend three o'clock

807
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 4: On sunday From WeatherTech, Raceway, Laguna. Seka thank you for

808
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 4: joining us from THE bet three six' Five. Commands center

809
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 4: we'll see You next tuesday night at seven here on

810
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 4: track side