1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,320 Speaker 1: Case, I have a question. 2 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 2: Okay, lay it on me. 3 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 3: If you, against the objection of millions, decided to I 4 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 3: don't know, side with the utility monopoly. And I'm not 5 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 3: saying this actually happened. I'm just saying, let's just play 6 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 3: this out together. If you, not all that long ago, 7 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 3: against the objection of millions, decided to side with the 8 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 3: utility monopoly, and you knew it would be at the 9 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 3: expense of everyone else, and then, on top of that, 10 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 3: your little merry band of uber connected rich misfits decided 11 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 3: to improve I don't know, over one hundred million dollars 12 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 3: in incentives for a data center. Data center's plural. That 13 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 3: will make the issue of power infinitely worse than this state. 14 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 3: If you were to have done those two things just 15 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 3: in the past couple of months. Does it make me 16 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 3: a bad person that I think you're full of crap 17 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 3: when you say you want to help me with my 18 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 3: utility bill? 19 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: Now, no, I think that makes you very discerning, Okay, 20 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: very it makes you question I'm not the bad guy 21 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 2: in this equation. 22 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: I don't believe. So okay, very good, Okay, So Braun 23 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: the governor correct. I think most people know that. 24 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 3: But Mike Braun, Governor Dementia as we call him, because well, 25 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 3: we would never say that the Governor is a habitual 26 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 3: pathological liar. Yet he seems to have very short memories 27 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 3: when it comes to things he says versus action he takes. 28 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 3: So the only logical reason if he's not a habitual 29 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 3: pathological liar is that he's suffering from some sort of 30 00:01:56,040 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 3: serious neurological damage that is causing him to forget said things. 31 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 3: All right, So, earlier this year in the legislative session, 32 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 3: the governor signed a bill that will result in, in 33 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 3: all likelihood, massive rate increases for utility payers because it 34 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 3: now allows the utilities, which are monopolies. You can't shop 35 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 3: your utility. It allows the utilities to essentially become doctor 36 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 3: Frankenstein and play around with these SMRs small modular reactors, 37 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 3: an unproven technology, and no matter what happens with it, 38 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 3: whether it works or not, you the rate payer, are 39 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 3: going to be on the hook for eighty percent of it. Okay, 40 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 3: So he signed into law bill that everybody acknowledges will 41 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 3: in all likelihood result in massive rate increases to you, 42 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 3: the consumer. And then on top of that, his brand 43 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 3: new wild and wacky IEDC boy. Now, of course he 44 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 3: threw all the IDC board members out and had a 45 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 3: forensic audit that's gonna cost all going eight hundred thousand 46 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 3: dollars because the IDC is so shifty and so shady 47 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 3: and so untransparent. But the first thing that that little 48 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 3: group did was approved economic incentives for four data centers, 49 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 3: which I don't know if you've heard case. 50 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: They use a. 51 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 2: Lot of power, they do, and a lot of water. 52 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 3: So he did those two things in his first whatever 53 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 3: six months in office. Both of those things are going 54 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 3: to an all likelihood lead to, especially when you put 55 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 3: them together, massive utility rate increases for most of us. 56 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 3: And yet yesterday he came out like mister Johnny do 57 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 3: Gooder and said. 58 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: I'm not visited up. The people have suffered it up. 59 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: We're gonna put it in. 60 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 2: We can't take it anymore. He did. He put out 61 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: a statement saying that he was directing the Utility Consumer Counselor, 62 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 2: who is Indiana's ratepayer advocate, to evaluate utilities profits along 63 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 2: with other cost saving measures. 64 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: She's going to evaluate it. 65 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 2: Yes, ease the burden on ratepayers. Yes, please please do that, 66 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: Abby Gray, Please do that. 67 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: Here's the problem. 68 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 3: Though, Nikki Kelly is going to join us from the 69 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 3: Capitol Chronicle at ten fifteen on her usual time slot. 70 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: The it's not just up to her. 71 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 3: Well, right, this person can make a suggestion, But there 72 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 3: is this board, the IURC, Indiana Utility Regulatory Committee, Commission Committee, whatever, 73 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 3: the commission, thank you, that makes the final choice. And 74 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 3: over and over and over again, they ignore this taxpayer 75 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 3: advocacy group in the order in which they are received 76 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 3: in your bills keep going up. However, how can the 77 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,119 Speaker 3: governor Now this is where we come back to either 78 00:04:56,240 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 3: one of two things, habitual liar or de menship patient, 79 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 3: because how can you possibly have taken the actions that 80 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 3: he took in his first six months in office and 81 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 3: then claim, who, I'm very concerned about your utility business? 82 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 2: Is there a third door? Could he have been? Oops? 83 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: What did I do? 84 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 2: I better take corrective action. 85 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 3: But you can't undo it. That's the problem. You've already 86 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 3: signed the bill, You've already told the utility companies, sure, 87 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 3: step right up. Do whatever you want to do with 88 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 3: your technology, play with whatever you want to play with. 89 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: We're on the hook for it, whether it works or not. 90 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 3: So how is how can you possibly say, because it 91 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 3: wasn't like this wasn't a hot button issue. It wasn't 92 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 3: like people like us weren't begging him, Hey, please don't 93 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 3: sign this bill. 94 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: It's gonna be horrible for the taxpayers. 95 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 3: He had to know exactly what he was doing, and 96 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 3: he signed it anyway. And he's only doing this now 97 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 3: because it is reaching a fever pitch in terms of 98 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 3: the up for which with people cannot stand and how 99 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 3: pissed off they are. Doing the same thing he did 100 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 3: with the property taxes, where he wants you to believe 101 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 3: that he cares, he wants you to believe he's going 102 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 3: to fight for you, but there's nothing in terms of 103 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 3: actual what's actually being done that leads you to believe 104 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 3: or can can happen that's gonna result in anything other 105 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 3: than your bills going up. 106 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 2: So the iu r C is going to see some 107 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 2: major leadership changes as some people are resigning and they'll 108 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 2: be out in October, which means some new people need 109 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 2: to be put on that commission and the iu r 110 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 2: C that's the group that decides the utility rate increases. Now, 111 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 2: Braun has instructed these new appointees to scrutinize utility rate 112 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 2: hikes more aggressively, also focus on affordability and reliability. 113 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 3: Okay, so let's work down the food chain. Okay, this 114 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 3: and this is why we are numero uno. This is 115 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 3: why we are are beloved by so many because we 116 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 3: will tell you exactly how this works. So Braun has 117 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 3: already said the problem is in the property tax thing 118 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 3: are our new favorite line for Governor Brown is this 119 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 3: man has no stick. 120 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: And that is, of course a reference to. 121 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 3: The famous scene in Ghostbusters where Bill Murray describes Walter 122 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 3: Peck from the from the Environmental Protection Agency, except he 123 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 3: doesn't use the word stick. But I think we can 124 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 3: safely say we can use the word stick on public airways. 125 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: Braun has no stick. 126 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: He admitted during the property tax issue that he's petrified 127 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 3: of the General Assembly, that he won't fight them, he 128 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 3: won't stand up to them. He's telling you that again 129 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 3: with this special session where he can't make up his 130 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 3: mind on whether he'll only call it if they tell. 131 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: Him to call it. 132 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 3: And so the problem is when you have the guy 133 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 3: who's the head of utilities in the House of Representatives 134 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 3: that dirt bag ed Soliday right, essentially, strong arming and 135 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 3: text messages. The mayor was it Laporte? The mayor Portage? 136 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 3: Was it Portage or Laporte porter County? Well, he's a 137 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 3: mayor out of county. It was a Portage mayor. It 138 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 3: was Oh yes, I think it was the mayor Portage 139 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 3: who spoke up against the I U R seeing these 140 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 3: rate increases and everything else and basically told that guy 141 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 3: Austin Bonta is the guy's name. We had him on 142 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 3: the show and Ed Saldi basically told him, Hey, you 143 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 3: better get in line, junior, or I'll do everything in 144 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 3: my power to make sure no more extra money comes 145 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 3: your comes to your city. Well, Bron's already said I'm 146 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 3: totally petrified of the General Assembly, and we know what 147 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 3: side the General Assembly is clearly on, So why would 148 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 3: we believe anything different is gonna happen Portage? Thank you, Steven. 149 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 2: So you're not saying that this isn't going to be 150 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 2: a reboot of our utility world or I think it's 151 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 2: going to be a reset breaker. 152 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 3: It's going to be a reboot of the property tax debacle. 153 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 3: Because Braun is a gutless Oh, I can't say that 154 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 3: the show. 155 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 1: He's a gutless wissy. How about that? How about that 156 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: twenty five. 157 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 3: Years in this business and nobody's ever had to hit 158 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 3: the dump button on me? 159 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: How about that for some talent. 160 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 3: As crazy as I am, and nobody's ever had hit 161 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 3: the dump button? 162 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 2: He said, Hoosiers have been burdened with utility rate increase 163 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,719 Speaker 2: after increase. We can't take it anymore. 164 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 3: What's this wi mister, I'm worth between thirty it was 165 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 3: his net worth thirty six and ninety six million or 166 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 3: whatever the number was. Mister, I have a heliport helipad 167 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 3: at my home in southern Indiana. I live in the 168 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 3: Governor's mansion. When do you think is the last time 169 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 3: Braun actually paid a utility bill, like logged into his 170 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 3: account or wrote a check. What do you think the 171 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 3: last time that was? If I asked Braun right now, 172 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 3: what's your electric bill at your little compound down there 173 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 3: in southern Indiana, you think he could tell you what 174 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 3: the electric bill is? 175 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 4: No? 176 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 1: Heck no, no, what's this we stuff? 177 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 2: So he appointed Abbi Gray as the head of the 178 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 2: Office of Utility Consumer Counselor, and she's been there for 179 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: sixteen years. She was twenty three years at the iu RC, 180 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 2: but he told her to evaluate utility company profits, find 181 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 2: cost saving me and then pushed for investors to shoulder 182 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 2: more of the costs, not the rate payers. So the 183 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 2: message is on point. He's saying the right things. But 184 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, it's all about the execution. 185 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 3: I want to hear that Grease Bucket Ed Soliday say it. 186 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 3: When Ed Soliday says it, then I'll believe there might 187 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 3: be some teeth to this. But until then, when the 188 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 3: governor and what other logical conclusion do we come to. 189 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 3: When the governor admits he's petrified to take on the 190 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 3: General Assembly, that he will not stand up to these people, 191 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 3: and he said it twice on two big issues, property 192 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 3: taxes in the redistricting, and you've got the leadership in 193 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 3: the General Assembly saying they're there, Governor dementia. 194 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: That's nice. 195 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 3: You just sit in your seat, grandpa, and we're going 196 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 3: to tell you how it's gonna go. And they've already said, ow, 197 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 3: it's gonna go. Why would we think anything different is 198 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 3: going to happen. And by the way, if the governor's people, 199 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 3: if Josh Kelly and the people in the Governor's office 200 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 3: would like to come out and say the governor is 201 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 3: not suffering from some sort of some neurology issue. 202 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: He just lies that much. We'll accept that too. 203 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 2: We just past that's honest. 204 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 3: We just don't want to think that the governor is 205 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 3: willfully lying to people. And this is the only logical 206 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 3: conclusion we can come to. If there is a third door, 207 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 3: and they'd like to tell us about it, were all ears, Okay. 208 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 2: So we know there's a lot of data centers coming 209 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 2: in and there have been some moves in regards to 210 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 2: the Franklin Township data Center. And also it's not just electricity, 211 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 2: a lot of water being used in these data centers. 212 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 2: So we're going to talk about them coming up from 213 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 2: ninety three wibc Oh what. 214 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 3: Oh, that's the new big phrase in our house. 215 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 2: I was going to say, you sound like liviy uh oh, casey. 216 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: I hate to do this. 217 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 3: It is nine to twenty three in the morning on 218 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 3: September the fourth, twenty twenty five, and we have to 219 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 3: do the least favorite part of every show for me. 220 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, is that where you tell of your when you 221 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 2: were right? 222 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm loath to do this this early in 223 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 3: the program, but uh oh, it's kind of a Casey show. 224 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: By the way, my name is Rob, that's Casey. 225 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 3: So this comes from Garrett Birquist on Twitter. 226 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: And just to. 227 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 3: Reset, remember when we told you after the property tax 228 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 3: bill passed, and we said you are about to get 229 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 3: so hose. You don't you can't even fathom what's gonna happen. 230 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 3: And we told you at the time, we said it 231 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 3: will take several years for this to play out, and 232 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 3: the lawmakers know it because there will likely be for 233 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 3: you some savings in year one and you'll go, oh, 234 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 3: look I got a few hundred dollars back, and we said, well, 235 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 3: get petty ready, pal, because you're gonna end for a problem. 236 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 3: But what they're banking on is you going back to 237 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 3: sleep and not being able to figure it out. And 238 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 3: you ever seen the movie The Sandlot. 239 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, the baseball movie. Yeah. 240 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 3: The premise of The Sandlot is these kids in the 241 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 3: sixties play baseball in a sandlot. They run out of 242 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 3: baseball one day. The main character goes home, who knows 243 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 3: actually nothing about baseball, and steals his dad's Babe Ruth 244 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 3: autograph baseball which they go play with and they hit 245 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 3: it into the yard where the beast dog is and 246 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 3: so they have to come up with a way to 247 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 3: get the ball back. But in the meantime they got 248 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 3: to make sure his dad doesn't know the ball's gone. 249 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 3: So they buy a baseball and one of the kids 250 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 3: signs Babe Ruth's name on the baseball, and at one point, 251 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 3: as he's signing the ball, one of the kids goes, 252 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 3: I don't know, Benny, that signature looks pretty crappy, and 253 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 3: he goes. 254 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: Look, this is just a bias some time. 255 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 3: That's what the General Assembly was doing with the property 256 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 3: tax bill. 257 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: They are Bennie in the sand. 258 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 2: Lahuh, this is just a bias some time forging Babe 259 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 2: Ruth's autograph before you don't figure out how you're gonna 260 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 2: get screwed. 261 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 3: And one things we told you is gonna happen. Not 262 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 3: only will the property tax cut quote totally go away 263 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 3: in a couple of years, because there's nothing in this 264 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 3: bill that addresses assessments, which is why the bills keep 265 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 3: going up. Correct, but there's something that stops the bill 266 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 3: from going up. 267 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:01,719 Speaker 1: So within a. 268 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 3: Best case scenario, current current increases, et cetera, your cut 269 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 3: will go away within the next three to four years. Now, 270 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 3: we also told you what was going to happen, and 271 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 3: it is that these school districts are going to be 272 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 3: sprinting to the referendums turnstiles because they're not just going 273 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 3: to take getting less money because the General Assembly always 274 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 3: rolls over and plays dead for the public education system. 275 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 3: That's happening see Avon C Fort Wayne schools. Next year, 276 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 3: you're going to see a whole bunch more. But the 277 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 3: big one mirror, mirror on the wall, how are we going. 278 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,359 Speaker 1: To get screwed? The most of all, it is these local. 279 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 3: Income tax increases that cities which previously were not allowed 280 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 3: to do them, are going to do. So let's review 281 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 3: what did we tell you was going to happen. Within 282 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 3: the next three to five years, your tax coun'll go 283 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 3: away because of the property tax increases that continue. You're 284 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 3: going to see a whole bunch of schools do referendums, 285 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 3: which means you'll have tax increases on top of that, 286 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 3: and you will pay this local income tax in a 287 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 3: whole bunch of places you didn't pay before, Which brings 288 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 3: me to Casey at nine to twenty six in the morning, 289 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 3: my least favorite part of every show. Another example of 290 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 3: us proving how right we were. From Garrett Birquist from 291 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 3: WISH TV on Twitter. Anderson Mayor Thomas Brodricks says his 292 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 3: city will use budget reserves to make up the shortfall 293 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 3: from the fiscal years twenty six and twenty seven. Okay, 294 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 3: he will ask the city council to raise the city's 295 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 3: local income tax rate for twenty twenty eight. 296 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: There it is. 297 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 3: Damn, I'm good and I do this well. I can't 298 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 3: believe we give this show away for free. 299 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 2: So in two and a half years in Anderson. 300 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: Which what did we tell you? 301 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? 302 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 3: What did we tell you was going to happen? And 303 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 3: it's all things that Braun and Micah and that med. 304 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: Go, oh no, that's not gonna happen. Oh oh. They 305 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: also told me. But if it does, you got to 306 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: go fight it. 307 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 3: You got to fight the school board, the city council, 308 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 3: the county council, you get the fire territory. You got 309 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 3: to fight them all because we gutlass. 310 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: So there you go. 311 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. Braun said he was going to knock 312 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 2: on doors with you to fight school referendums. 313 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 3: The Avon people told me they have still not heard 314 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 3: back from Michael or Broun on their pledge to knock 315 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 3: on doors to defeat school reference. 316 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 2: They're going to be so busy in this next session 317 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 2: because Braun is saying utility price is going to be 318 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 2: a top priority for him. But he also said they 319 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 2: were going to come back and readdress property taxes. 320 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's coming back for more. He's got a card. 321 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 3: He's got to what do you tell those well meaning 322 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 3: but naive people that went to the mansion. He's got 323 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 3: to ace up his sleeve. Versus of course he won't tell. 324 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 3: It's like Nixon and Vietnam. Right, he got a plan. 325 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 2: I can't tell you what it is. 326 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 3: Tell you what it is, all right, So we got 327 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 3: to take a break when we come back. 328 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 2: Alex Alex Willis, Alex Willis from Protect Morgan County dot org. 329 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: Yes is going to join us. 330 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 3: There is a proposal for a big, mysterious data center 331 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 3: to go out in the Monrovia area. And these people 332 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 3: on the backs of the Franklin Township people seeming seeming 333 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 3: to have a lot of success fighting the Google data center. 334 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 3: They are trying to fight the data center out there 335 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 3: in Morgan County, and everybody needs to wake up to 336 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 3: this stuff because it's coming to a community near you. 337 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 3: You may not live near Monrovia, but you need to 338 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 3: know what these people are going through. Because these data 339 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 3: center people, as long as our old pals of the 340 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 3: IEDC are handing out the goodies and your local governments 341 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 3: are given out of Bateman's they are like Jason Vorhees 342 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 3: and Friday the thirteenth. You can bury him underground, you 343 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 3: can put him at the bottom of the ocean. You 344 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 3: can light him on fire, you can saw him in half. 345 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 2: Just keeps coming back. 346 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: They are coming back, baby, Yeah. 347 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 2: Alec Willis joins us next on ninety three WIBC. 348 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: Casey. 349 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 3: I don't know if you're aware of, but everybody's pretty 350 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:49,959 Speaker 3: pissed off about these data centers. 351 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 2: They seem to be popping up all over the state. 352 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 3: Now, of course we've highlighted here recently, there's been a 353 00:17:55,240 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 3: huge pushback in Indianapolis Franklin Township over this proposed Google data. 354 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: It looks like, at. 355 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 3: Least right now, the citizens there may be defeating that 356 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 3: measure to put that monstrosity there in Franklin Township. But 357 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 3: these things are coming up all over the place, Yes 358 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 3: they are, And you know we opened our show today 359 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 3: talking about the hypocrisy of the governor who on one 360 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 3: end comes out and claims to be so concerned about 361 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,959 Speaker 3: utility costs, and yet one of the first actions of 362 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 3: his new IDC board was to prove incentives for these 363 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 3: data centers, right which are going to suck all this 364 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 3: power s, will cause people's power bills to go up. 365 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 2: It's big shell game. 366 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 3: But people everywhere are starting to catch onto these data 367 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 3: centers the potential harm they bring. In one of the 368 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 3: areas where people are really organized, where they're really fighting back, 369 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 3: is in Monrovia, where there's a proposed data center out there, 370 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 3: and joining us on the WABC Hotline to talk about 371 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 3: their experience, because look, this is coming to a community 372 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 3: in near you. You need to know how to organize, 373 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 3: You need to know how to fight back against these things. 374 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 3: Like the people in Franklin Township is Alec Willis. He's 375 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 3: a part of a group called Protect Morgan County. He 376 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 3: joins us on the WAV hotline now, Alex, Hello. 377 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 5: Hey, Rob, thanks for having me on today. 378 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 3: Yeah so, tell us about your group Protect Morgan County 379 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 3: and your fight against this data center out there in Monrovia. 380 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:17,479 Speaker 5: Yeah so, Honestly, it's been a great effort recently. I 381 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 5: didn't become aware of this actually until May, and that's 382 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 5: when the Morgan County corresponded introduced me to Chris Lamberson, 383 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 5: who had been leading this grassroots movement, and that was 384 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 5: when I met him and we established a renewed effort 385 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 5: to somehow just compel the cancelation of this data center 386 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 5: going up in Morgan County, and not only that, just 387 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 5: continue to protect Morgen County from these officials who are 388 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 5: just completely disengaged with the voters at a local level. 389 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 3: Okay, let me ask you about this. So do you 390 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 3: know what the data center is? Like, do you know 391 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 3: who's behind it? How big it's going to be, those 392 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 3: sorts of things. 393 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's going to be three hundred and ninety acres, 394 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 5: which is pretty substantial. And they haven't come out and 395 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 5: said specifically, but I've gotten word from a resource, you know, resource. 396 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 4: That knows what they're talking about. I'm not going to 397 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 4: say who it is, but they've confirmed that it's Google. 398 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 5: And of course the officials have signed non disclosure agreements 399 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 5: to not have to disclose that, but we've confirmed that 400 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 5: it's Google. 401 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 3: Wait, wait, wait, so there would there would you got 402 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 3: the one in Franklin Township And you're seriously this would 403 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 3: be a second, allegedly a second Google data center. 404 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 2: Yes, does that have a nickname? Is it like project 405 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 2: you know, Sunshine Project, Tahoe, Project Cornfield. 406 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 5: Well, we should probably give it a nickname, but as 407 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 5: far as I'm aware, it doesn't necessarily have a nickname yet. 408 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 3: Alec Willis is our guest. He's with the group Protect 409 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 3: Morgan County. They're fighting a proposed data center out in 410 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 3: the Monrovia area. Uh okay, so tell us about sort 411 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 3: of did you mentioned the elected officials? Is this a 412 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 3: county project? 413 00:20:59,080 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 2: Is it? 414 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 3: Is it at of your town projects somewhere? Who are 415 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 3: the dirty, rotten, no good people that are giving you 416 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 3: guys pushback in terms of trying to defeat this monstrosity. 417 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm glad, yes, actually because you know, at the 418 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 5: beginning of this, it's always been a bipartisan movement. But 419 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 5: we actually reached out Senator Bank's office and they were 420 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 5: able to confirm that this has nothing to do with 421 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 5: the data centers that Senator Banks and President Trump has 422 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 5: brought to Indiana and that you know, in their opinion. 423 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 5: It was specifically a local project that the local officials. 424 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 2: Have been working on. 425 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 5: So this is the Morgan County Plan Commission and the 426 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 5: Morgan County Council and commissioners that have brought this in, 427 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 5: you know, against massive opposition. 428 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: Do you do you know why? 429 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 3: Because Morgan County has always been pretty good, at least 430 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 3: in the past about protecting the taxpayers or the one 431 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 3: county that didn't opt into the food and beverage tax. 432 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 3: They've always been pretty good about the idea of Hey 433 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 3: Warren and at largely ad community property rights, all those 434 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 3: sorts of things. Do you have an idea of why 435 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 3: that they appear to be so wed to this, to 436 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 3: this data center. 437 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, So from our understanding, you know, there's Morgan County 438 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 5: Economic Development Corporation and it's led by an executive director, 439 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 5: Mike Ellinger. And obviously, you know, we paid the county 440 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 5: paid seventy five thousand dollars a year. 441 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 4: I think it is to them to advise on the economy. 442 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 5: And he is, from my understanding, he's the one that 443 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 5: kind of introduced this to the county and he's not 444 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 5: even from here. In fact, a few years ago he 445 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 5: said that Monrovia was going to be a part of 446 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 5: Indy and so that's that's kind of who had led 447 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,719 Speaker 5: the charge with this and told it, you know, from 448 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 5: my understanding, told everybody that it'd be a great idea 449 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 5: and championed it from the start. 450 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 2: So you've been partnering with Citizens' Action Coalition. How have 451 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 2: they been able to help you in the cause. 452 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, so Citizens Action is a great resource. We've been 453 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 5: working hand in hand with Bryce Gustafson, who, first of all, 454 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 5: they have so many resources and they've done, you know 455 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 5: a lot of research and they've been able to provide 456 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 5: the information you know, from the start, whereas you know, 457 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 5: we would have had to go back and you know 458 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 5: do that all of all by ourselves. And they're also 459 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 5: helping down in Franklin Township also, and they kind of 460 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 5: lead from the front of like, you know, this is 461 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 5: not only are their negative effects you know for water, 462 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 5: for noise and all that stuff, but utility rates are 463 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 5: just going to go crazy, uh, you know when they 464 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 5: get this in the ground. And so they've provided resources. 465 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 5: For example, they've set up the booth at the Monrovia 466 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 5: Festival this weekend and plan on helping us throughout this process, 467 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 5: and Bryce has been a great resource that we're grateful for. 468 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 3: Colevan is up with Alec Willis. He's with the group 469 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 3: called Protect Morgan County. They're fighting a data center out 470 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 3: there in the Monrovia area. So tell us about kind 471 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 3: of what you guys have been doing, tell us about 472 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 3: where the project is. Are you succeeding in your pushback? 473 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,719 Speaker 3: Where are you guys at in terms of defeating these things? So, look, 474 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 3: I think all these data centers right now, especially when 475 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 3: they're if they're in any way LinkedIn to the IDC, 476 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 3: need to absolutely be pushed back and defeated. 477 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, of course. 478 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 5: So there's there's two Monrooby residents that filed a very 479 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 5: fied positioner of review law too, you know, arguing that 480 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 5: the rezoning was arbitrary, disregarding the county's comprehensive plane, et cetera. 481 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 4: It's an ongoing matter. They have a discovery. 482 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 5: Motion set for September twenty fifth. We're excited to see 483 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 5: what happens. We've also submitted a very targeted and detailed 484 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 5: public records request because from our point. 485 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 4: Of view, it's hard to fight something that you have. 486 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 5: No you know, you don't have any information on and 487 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 5: I think, in my opinion, that's what the goal of 488 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 5: the non. 489 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 4: Disclosure agreement was. And so we filed for all these documents. 490 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 4: We made sure we're very particular about it so that 491 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 4: they couldn't use that as an excuse and word. 492 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 5: From the county, we're supposed to get those documents back, 493 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 5: and that kind of doesn't necessarily set and stone our 494 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 5: path forward, but you know, it decides where we go 495 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 5: from here in terms of the information we get back 496 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 5: or don't get back. But we've see and we've seen 497 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 5: the progress. The movement is growing in membership every single day. 498 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 5: We have people inquired that didn't know about it the 499 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 5: day before. We're raising funds every single day, and just 500 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 5: just great progress in my opinion, because a lot of 501 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 5: people still even on the roads that this data center 502 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 5: is going, like setting up by yesterday at our weekly meeting, 503 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 5: we had a couple of people show up that hadn't 504 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 5: even heard about it and they live on that road. 505 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 5: So it's growing every day. Who's seen a lot of progress? 506 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 3: This is what I can't figure out who is for 507 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 3: this other than the company that wants to go there, Like, 508 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 3: is there anybody coming out in the community saying, oh, 509 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 3: this will be so great, and what the reason are 510 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 3: your elected officials who are ignoring the public giving you 511 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 3: for doing so? 512 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 4: Yeah? So not really, to be honest, I mean, there's. 513 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 5: The members of the county have said a few positive 514 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 5: things about it. 515 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 4: I had talked to a commissioner and his his reasoning was. 516 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 5: Well, you know, I talked to Chamber of Commerce and 517 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 5: one of the communities that one of these were being. 518 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 4: Built, and they had positive things to say about it. 519 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 4: And I'm like, well, what positive things? 520 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 5: And he had, well, they helped us buy you know, 521 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 5: helped us buy a few things for the municipality. 522 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, so is that it. 523 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 5: That's pretty much it. Like the problem is is what 524 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 5: thinking what in the world, Because if there's not much 525 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 5: positive effect, then why trouble ourselves with this data center? 526 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 5: And there's way more negative And I would say at 527 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 5: the meetings that we've had, the opposition to support is 528 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 5: probably thirty to forty to one. 529 00:26:58,840 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 4: I mean it's not even. 530 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Alec. 531 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 3: If people want to know more about what you guys 532 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 3: are doing out there, everybody needs to pay attention to 533 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 3: all of these communities. Even if you don't live in them, 534 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 3: because these people, if they don't succeed in one place, 535 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 3: they'll come to a community near you. These are coming 536 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 3: to a community near you. How can people learn about 537 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 3: what you guys are doing out in Morgan County. 538 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 5: Yeah, so go to our website, protect Morgan County dot org. 539 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,719 Speaker 4: Visit it. We have information. 540 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 5: We're updating it every day. We just went live with 541 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 5: it this week, so there will be updates to it. 542 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 5: There's going to be pds of information on it, and 543 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 5: there's going to be once we get these records from 544 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 5: the county, we're going to be uploading those. We have 545 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 5: an opportunity for you to donate to the cause because 546 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 5: there will be you know, a movement without money is 547 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 5: just going to die. 548 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 4: So we do need support there from people who care 549 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 4: about this to keep it going and go visit that. 550 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 5: We also have a Facebook page and most importantly, we'll 551 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 5: be at the Monroviat Festival. I do want to say 552 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 5: that's a great fest. Well, first of all, you know, 553 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 5: not a lot of people were talking about it in 554 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 5: the Indian area, but you should come out. It's this weekend, 555 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 5: starts on Friday, goes through Sunday. We're going to be 556 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 5: in the parade. You can also come out and support us. 557 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 3: That way, maybe that parade may be brought to you 558 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 3: by or that festival may bee brought to you by 559 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 3: Google before too long, Alec. 560 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I would rather donate my own money than 561 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 5: have Google donate to something like that. 562 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 3: All right, yeah, Protect, it's Protect Morgan County dot org. Correct, Yes, sir, 563 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 3: all right, Protect Morgan County dot org. Alex, thank you 564 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 3: for your time, good luck. Let us know how we 565 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 3: can help. 566 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you, Rob. 567 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 2: It's Kennily Casey on ninety three WIBCJC. 568 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: I am spent much of my week putting puzzles together. 569 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, I mean you're aware of some of 570 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: the things I've been. 571 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, but one of the things that just find a 572 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 3: big piece, Well, there's I got, you know, like I'm 573 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 3: putting together like five puzzles at the same time. And 574 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 3: you know, sometimes, like you know, a law enforcement agency 575 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 3: might do, if they're working on five or six cases, 576 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 3: they'll work on something for a few days and. 577 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 2: Then put that one aside and then move on to 578 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 2: something else. 579 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, And it doesn't mean they're not working on 580 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 3: it just because there's no developments. 581 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: It just means you got to you got all the 582 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: irons in the fire. 583 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 2: Right. 584 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 3: So last night I was contacted by a very high 585 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 3: ranking Indiana Republican. Okay, this is a person in all 586 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 3: the circles. It has very prestigious titles and positions. 587 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 2: And yes, when they contacted you, did you know who 588 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 2: they were? Because I know you don't put name in 589 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 2: your phone. 590 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got Look, this is the thing, and we 591 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: say this all the time. 592 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 3: We get this stuff right and first a lot of 593 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 3: times in the state House because we got sources everywhere, 594 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 3: and there's a whole bunch of people who can't stand 595 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 3: the people that they work with or work for in 596 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 3: that state House, and they are more than willing, as 597 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 3: long as they shall remain anonymous, to give information. And 598 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 3: so we started talking last night about the behavior related 599 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 3: to redistricting. And this person said, because obviously we have 600 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 3: asked the question, what is in it for these lawmakers? 601 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 3: Clearly the constituents are not clamoring for this. 602 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: No, there's been no. 603 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 3: Lawmaker come forward and go oh, overwhelmingly they're beating down 604 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 3: my doors. We do know there's a large chance of 605 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 3: potential political fallout. 606 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 2: Thinking more people want legalized marijuana in the state than 607 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 2: redistrict edition. 608 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 3: Sure right, they're not calling special session for your utility 609 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 3: bills or property types or any of that stuff. Right, 610 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 3: So we said, what is the what is the logical 611 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 3: what possible reason? They can't be that afraid of Charlie Kirk. 612 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 3: It can't be that Craig Howard is that big of 613 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 3: a gutlass coward Haggard, Who'd I say, Howard, Craig Haggard. Yes, 614 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 3: Craig Haggard. If your name is Craig Howard, I'm sure 615 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 3: you're a wonderful person. Craig Haggard, State Rep. From Morgan County, 616 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 3: that he's that big of a gutless coward, that he's 617 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 3: afraid of Charlie Kirk. And this person said, no, you 618 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 3: don't understand what's going on. And I said, well, we'll 619 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 3: tell me more please, And and this is unbelievable. First 620 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 3: of all, it's unbelievably one, it's ridiculous it's going on. 621 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 3: But to it's laughable that these lawmakers are are they 622 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 3: don't see through things. This person said, the Trump administration. 623 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 3: The reason this thing won't go away despite nobody wanting it, 624 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 3: is the Trump They as they describe them, the Trump people. Yeah, 625 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 3: it's like the guys on the X Files. You know, 626 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 3: he didn't know what they were, just a member of 627 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 3: a group. You didn't know their real identities. The Trump 628 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 3: people are leading these lawmakers to believe that if they 629 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 3: don't follow through on their bidding with this redistricting stuff, 630 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 3: that they will withhold federal money to the state of Indiana. 631 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 2: What. I'm shocked and surprised. Somebody told you that last 632 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 2: night on the phone. 633 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: Who was it. 634 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 2: I believe somebody in the studio said that exact same 635 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 2: thing yesterday. It was you, d right, It was at right. 636 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: Yes, you have said this for a while now. 637 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 2: So I said that yesterday and it was confirmed via 638 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,239 Speaker 2: a high ranking Republican last night to you. 639 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 3: Yes, and they and they said at the local level, 640 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 3: there's no they're not seeing support for this. 641 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: State. 642 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 3: The leadership is not supportive of this. But these lawmakers 643 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 3: are now think about what this says about Trump. If 644 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 3: you don't engage in a holy political act, there's no 645 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 3: reason to re district Indiana. There's no population sor there's nothing. 646 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 3: If you don't engage. It really tells you a lot 647 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 3: about Donald Trump and the people around him. If indeed 648 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 3: this is true, if you don't engage in a holy 649 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 3: political act, we will punish you by withholding money to 650 00:32:58,840 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 3: a red state. 651 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 2: Maybe that's where Ed Soliday learned the trick. 652 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 3: A state that has always supported Trump, has always stood 653 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 3: behind him. Hell, he picked his vice president last time 654 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 3: from here, and yet these people are so ridiculous. This 655 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 3: is where the lawmaker's got to grow a pair and 656 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 3: say do it. 657 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: Then do it. 658 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 3: We're not gonna rig our election system because you can't 659 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 3: win an election, mister president, why don't you govern better? 660 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 3: But that's what's going on out there. That is exactly 661 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 3: what's going on these lawmakers. 662 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: Nobody wants it. 663 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 3: They're not hearing from you. You're not beating down their door. 664 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 3: There's not a you know, just an onslaught of support 665 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 3: for this. It's that they are petrified that the president 666 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 3: and his administration are going to withhold federal money from 667 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 3: them if they don't do his bidding. 668 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 2: Last year, Indiana received approximately twenty three point four billion 669 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 2: dollars in federal funds. Some of the major recipients included 670 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 2: fourteen billion to Medicaid, one point nine billion to the 671 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 2: Division of Family Resources, one point eight billion to education 672 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 2: and coming up in twenty six we're looking at billions 673 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 2: upon billions with the Chip Act. And there's even transportation 674 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 2: funding here in Indianapolis to the tune of thirty point 675 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:25,479 Speaker 2: five million federal transit funding for street projects. So when 676 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 2: you've got someone saying, hey, do it my way or else, 677 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 2: you are not going to get thirty percent of your budget. Yeah, 678 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 2: they're kind of looking at those options saying, well, I 679 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 2: guess we're going to do it. 680 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,399 Speaker 3: And the reason these people like this is a very 681 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 3: connected person who would be tard and feathered if it 682 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 3: came out that they were associating with me in any 683 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 3: sort of friendly manner. But the reason they reach out 684 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:52,760 Speaker 3: to us is they know we'll tell you the truth. 685 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 3: We'll tell you what's going on, we'll tell you what 686 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 3: we hear, and they want this information to get out 687 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 3: that this is this is why we're considering spending a 688 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 3: half million dollars or more of your money. It'll be 689 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 3: a lot more by the time the lawsuits are factory. 690 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm glad you said that, because, by the way, 691 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 2: when you say federal money, it's not Trump's money, right, 692 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 2: It's not the government's money. 693 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: It's your money, Yeah, to just. 694 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 3: Do the bidding of one guy because he's already can't 695 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 3: win elections in the midterm. 696 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: So do with that what you want. We just give 697 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:19,280 Speaker 1: you the information. 698 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 2: It's kind of lu Casey on ninety three WIBC