1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Well at least one half of the number one rated 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: radio program most listen to program in the entire state. 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: Part of that spell bindingly intriguing interview with the governor yesterday, 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: where he appeared to not know several very important things 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: I want to get. 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: His thoughts on at Jason Hammer. 7 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 3: Hello, Hello, here's the thing about these interviews with the governor. 8 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 2: No matter what I do, everybody's gonna jump on social media. 9 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 3: That was awful. 10 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: That was horrible. 11 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 3: You didn't ask about property attacks. You didn't ask him 12 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 3: about his high school SAT score? What a softball interview? Like, 13 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 3: all right, fine, here's the real reality. We have fifteen minutes. 14 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,639 Speaker 3: There was a buttload of stuff we wanted to ask 15 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 3: the governor about, and I feel like it's my job 16 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 3: to see if we can get the governor on the 17 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 3: record for these things. And then you guys, you guys 18 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 3: can make up your own minds, Like, I don't know 19 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 3: what more you wanted from me, Like your fans, Rob, 20 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 3: they want me to have the governor in here, walk 21 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 3: over and punch him in the face. Yeah, that's probably 22 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 3: not going to happen. No, okay, I would advice against that. 23 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 2: Probably not going to happen. 24 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 3: But he's gracious enough to come in here, and we 25 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 3: were doing rapid fire because there was a bunch of stuff. 26 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 3: And before we get into because I've been listening to 27 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 3: you guys today, the stuff that he wasn't aware of, 28 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 3: I thought the big takeaway from that conversation was going 29 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 3: to be a definitive no on the National Guard coming 30 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 3: to Indianapolis. 31 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: He kind of put the squash on that. 32 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 3: Yesterday saying, look, our police officers can do the job. 33 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 3: If we can bring the state police into help, that's fine. 34 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 3: The real problem is the prosecute. 35 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 4: You think, though, if Trump wanted, for whatever reason, to 36 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 4: make Indianapolis his next you know whatever, focus, laser focus 37 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 4: or whatever, and we're doing this, you think Braun would 38 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 4: still stand behind that and go, no, we're not doing that. 39 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 3: I thought it would be a situation where if Braun 40 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 3: asked him, because hey, we're a Republican state. State of 41 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 3: Indiana has been good to you, President Trump. Right now, 42 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 3: our homicide rate is higher than Chicago's bunch of factor 43 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 3: in the population, So I think it would really look 44 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 3: good on me as the governor. I could use a 45 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 3: few wins right now if we were able to give 46 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 3: you Joe hawk Set and Ryan Meures a big middle 47 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 3: finger and clean up Indianapolis. And it never was a 48 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 3: shot against the police, because I think some of my 49 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 3: police friends were like, dude, we can do the job. 50 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 2: No, there's no doubt that you can. 51 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 3: But this whole process also involved bringing in federal prosecutors. Yeah, 52 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 3: because the guy that's the prosecutor right now, he's in 53 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 3: no rush to put away bad guys, examples being the 54 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 3: dude that's been arrested. 55 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: Ninety nine times. 56 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 4: All right, so let's get to what I about fell 57 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 4: off the couch when And at first I thought maybe 58 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 4: he's trying to be funny. It was a weird thing 59 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 4: to be funny about. But I've gone back and listened 60 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 4: to it, and then we get to the second thing. 61 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 4: He realized he wasn't kidding. He claimed he didn't know 62 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 4: that the vice president was coming to Indianapolis on Friday. 63 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he knew there was going to be 64 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 3: some sort of conversation, but I don't think he knew 65 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 3: that jd Vance, the Vice President, was going to be 66 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 3: the dude the captain like bringing the brigade here. 67 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, he just thought maybe there'd. 68 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 3: Be some goons in DC that Trump would send out here, 69 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 3: you know, maybe Steven Miller, maybe somebody else to kind 70 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 3: of wag the finger. 71 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 2: But JD. 72 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 3: Vance carries a hammer and he's coming back. 73 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 74 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 4: I mean it was like we were talking about on 75 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 4: our show that it had come out he was coming. 76 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 4: So that's like six hours and so you got to 77 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 4: wonder how nobody was like, Hey, you got your buddy 78 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,839 Speaker 4: who you just tripped it in the Senate last year 79 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 4: is coming. I mean that I find that simply. I 80 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 4: mean that was the most interesting part of the whole 81 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 4: interview to me. 82 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 3: Now, you know the inside baseball more than anybody. Is 83 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 3: that a staff member's job to make sure that he 84 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 3: knows that because the governor told us, Listen, we've been 85 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 3: traveling all day. I've been to Fort Wayne, I've been 86 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 3: to all these other places. We've had event after event. 87 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 3: I could get maybe if he's in the car wherever, 88 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 3: he might not have heard that Vance will physically be 89 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 3: there in person. But shouldn't a staff member done he's 90 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 3: not in the car alone and that person's got a 91 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 3: phone with them. 92 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, he's the governor. 93 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 4: There are certain people in this state who have a 94 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 4: direct line at any time to Mike Mike Brawn and 95 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 4: I also wonder, I don't think it just like just 96 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 4: yesterday morning, they just woke up inside they're going to 97 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 4: do that. That's a massive operation security clearances. 98 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 3: The Trump administration feels like they do that rob like 99 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 3: wake up and say, you know what, screw it, we're 100 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 3: sending it right now. Yeah, right now, get on the plane. 101 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: Jack you go. 102 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 4: I just can't fathom that they didn't tell him, and 103 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 4: that they didn't know given the fact that there's like 104 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 4: sick or I mean again, we're not talking like Nikki 105 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 4: Kelly reports this at you know, three, three forty five, 106 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 4: and he's on your show at four fifteen. 107 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 2: This was in the morning. Yeah, it came down around 108 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 2: she got casters. We're talking about it. 109 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 3: Yes. 110 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 4: So then the other thing was, and this may be 111 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 4: an even bigger story into terms of how it affects 112 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 4: the people. He claimed he didn't know that Blackrock is 113 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 4: buying AES. 114 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 3: And listen, I am not gotcha journalism guy. I'm never 115 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 3: going to be somebody that books a guest to talk 116 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 3: about one thing. And then I tried to surprise him 117 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 3: and throw a bunch of crap at him yesterday The 118 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 3: goal of the conversation was, I'm going to go down 119 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 3: a long list of stuff that I think our audience 120 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 3: is interested in, the crime and Indie, the deleted tweet, 121 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: the IRC audit, the National Guard, and we had kind 122 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 3: of gone down the checklist, and we had a few 123 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 3: minutes left, so I brought up what I thought would 124 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 3: be something everybody would know about that AES the biggest 125 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 3: Indie area provider of power and energy about to be 126 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,239 Speaker 3: bought by Blackrock. Well, especially because Governor Brown just recently 127 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 3: pointed out how utility prices are going to be going 128 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 3: up and that's going to be a real focus for him. 129 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 3: And this whole conversation spawned from something similar we had 130 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 3: brought up. He had brought up the data centers and 131 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 3: he had mentioned AEES, So that kind of put no 132 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 3: pun intended the light bulb above my head. You shouldn't 133 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 3: have to tell him you're going to ask him about that. 134 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 3: He's the governor. That's not a gotcha question. You've made 135 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 3: energy prices this new found like Scrooge on Christmas morning, 136 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 3: I'll change your thing. You You shouldn't have to tell him, 137 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 3: and it's a it's been a story not I tell 138 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 3: him an advance question. 139 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying, even the topics like you should 140 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 4: be able to pivot on that or get to it, 141 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 4: and he should just be able to go. Yeah, that's 142 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 4: a major deal. Whatever his opinion is on it is 143 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 4: right what it is. But to be like, I didn't know. 144 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 3: That well, especially since he's about to put three people 145 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 3: on the i U r C. Right, they've got that 146 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:41,799 Speaker 3: nominating committee going, right, it's top of mind. And again, 147 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 3: just for point of reference, I want to make sure 148 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 3: this is perfectly clear, because I don't want somebody thinking 149 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 3: you have your questions approved. 150 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 2: Now. 151 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 3: When I booked through his staff, Hey, come on, here 152 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 3: are the things that I think my audience is interested 153 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 3: in talking about. That's normal, and it's the things that 154 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 3: I rattle off to you guys there. It's not a 155 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 3: specific question, it's not an angle. We've pushed back. Especially 156 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 3: when the property tax thing happened. We basically told him 157 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 3: it was a turd right to his face here. 158 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. 159 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's common professionalism to say, here's the 160 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 4: things we want to talk to you about. But what 161 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 4: I'm saying is that's such a big issue that you 162 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 4: shouldn't even have to mention that he should be fully 163 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 4: aware that that's going on, given that it's been a 164 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 4: story for a week. 165 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,559 Speaker 2: It affected the stock market like Blackrock. 166 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 3: When just the chatter was going on that they were 167 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 3: trying to buy aesye Man aes A stock was going 168 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 3: up and down and the market was high and the 169 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 3: market was low. 170 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 2: This was a big deal. 171 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 3: And I know you guys have talked about it on 172 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 3: your show, we've mentioned it on ours. Where is the 173 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 3: Indiana the state of Indiana at with Blackrock? And that's 174 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 3: what I positioned at the governor yesterday and we didn't 175 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 3: get the response we were looking for because I don't 176 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 3: think he knew much about it. 177 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 2: New podcast today. 178 00:07:55,000 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 3: Yes, NFL Action, I've got Action tonight Thursday Night football, Well, 179 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 3: Rob is mister Monday Night and the game of the 180 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 3: week this week it's the Lions at the Chiefs. 181 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 2: We'll both pick that game. 182 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 3: Are professional handicappers Kenny Brick FKB Sports, David Stephanoff a 183 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 3: fallo at Never Fade dot Com. We make them give 184 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 3: us free plays as well, so. 185 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 4: Case shout it out case you got any hot take 186 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 4: on the Chiefs. Given two and a half to the Lions. 187 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 4: The over unders fifty two and a half. That went 188 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 4: way up. 189 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to the Chiefs for sure. 190 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 4: So now if I take that on my show, you're 191 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 4: gonna scream at me again like you did on the 192 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 4: College Show. 193 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 3: Right, because your name is a part of this. We 194 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 3: thought these were your picks, and you're openly admitting I 195 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 3: don't do any work. I asked my coworker, Well, I'm 196 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 3: so happy I made you a co host of this 197 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 3: because you're not doing any work. 198 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 4: Look, my job, and it's the same thing I do 199 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 4: here is to show up. I show up, and that 200 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 4: was not our deal. 201 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 3: At no point did I bring you in and say, Rob, 202 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 3: your job is to show up. 203 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 2: Shut up. 204 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 4: Well, I sent you my picks already. They didn't want 205 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 4: you being in a fit of rage, so I already made. 206 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 2: The picks ahead of time. 207 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 4: So one thing that I was just picking Casey's brain 208 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 4: for what we're gonna do. But speaking of which, you 209 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 4: also have you have the number I think it's safe 210 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 4: to say you have the number one listen to radio 211 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 4: program in the state. Given your number one in the 212 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 4: market and you're on Afternoon Drive, which is the most 213 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 4: listened to time. I think it's the most that's safe 214 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 4: to say, right, it's the most listened to radio program 215 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 4: in this. 216 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 3: We've been named number one in America before. 217 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 4: Yes and in Our Hearts and everything else. And what's 218 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 4: coming up on the number one afternoon show in the 219 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 4: city of Indianapolis. 220 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 2: You, Oh, that's right. 221 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 3: How about you build up our show and then say, oh, 222 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 3: by the way, what's coming on today? 223 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 2: Oh, that's right. It's me. I'm on for off the rails. 224 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 2: It's just me today. 225 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 3: Nige is out today. It's your boy flying solo. We're 226 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 3: gonna get drunk. We're gonna take our pants off. Nice, 227 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 3: We're gonna fight all the battles on Indianapolis and win. 228 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 2: Baby, We're gonna win. I like that cub shirt. By 229 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 2: the way, they got the win. Let's go. Thanks Sammer. 230 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 2: It is Kennilly Casey. It's ninety three w IBC.