WEBVTT - Episode 4666: Tony Katz Today Hour 3 - 08/12/26

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<v Speaker 1>Why From ball Hartbiner and the Crossroads of America. It's

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Katz today. The update with I Ran is that

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<v Speaker 1>we're still a war of some kinds. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>really all there.

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<v Speaker 2>Is to say, Tony Katz.

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Katz today, Good to be here, Good to be

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<v Speaker 1>with you, President Trump. He doesn't seem concerned, doesn't seem worried,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't seem to have a care in the world about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and still wants to push the idea that, of course

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<v Speaker 1>we control the Strait of Hormuz, and prices are dropping fast.

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<v Speaker 2>The country is doing well.

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<v Speaker 3>The Sack Park is fantastic, record We have seventy nine

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<v Speaker 3>records so far in a short period of time. Four

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<v Speaker 3>people are working right now in the United States and

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<v Speaker 3>ever before, and prices are dropping fast. Iran is going fine,

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<v Speaker 3>going just absolutely fine. We totally control the Strait of Hormos.

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<v Speaker 3>We have control over it, nobody else, only US. Our

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<v Speaker 3>navy is unbelievable and things are going great.

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<v Speaker 4>For a cushy.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how I'm supposed to respond to that, sir.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how I supposed to respond when we're

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<v Speaker 1>still over eighty dollars a barrel on oil, and it

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<v Speaker 1>went up.

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<v Speaker 2>Down a little bit from yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that, but still above the seventy five number,

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<v Speaker 1>which I'm supposed to believe is some kind of really

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<v Speaker 1>important number to cost. And then you have the Wall

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<v Speaker 1>Street Journal story about Iran and the survival economy. This

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<v Speaker 1>goes to something we discussed yesterday. I believe in total honesty,

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<v Speaker 1>and I believe in approaching everything with that, regardless of

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<v Speaker 1>who gets upset.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe that.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything with Iran is winnable. You just have to be

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<v Speaker 1>willing to do it. The conversation with Leland Viitddert of

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<v Speaker 1>News Nation yesterday, it was about whether or not there's

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<v Speaker 1>the will, and his argument was Iran has the will

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<v Speaker 1>and we don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't believe that part to be true.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that that's what it looks like right now,

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<v Speaker 1>but I've spent a lot of time thinking about that

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<v Speaker 1>and going over that conversation. Am I to believe that

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump doesn't have the will to end the Islamic regime.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that it is not his first choice. His

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<v Speaker 1>first choice is to get the win. We've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>this a million times, a million times that for Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>the first rule of trump Ism is Trump wins. The

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<v Speaker 1>second rule of trump Ism is that a deal can

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<v Speaker 1>always be made as long as it adheres to the

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<v Speaker 1>first rule of trump Ism. That is true, and he

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<v Speaker 1>can declare victory anytime, and he could say, Okay, they're

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<v Speaker 1>not having a nuclear weapon and control of the Strait

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<v Speaker 1>is done, We're done.

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<v Speaker 2>He could do that anytime he wants.

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<v Speaker 1>He always leaves himself that opportunity, always, always, always, always,

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<v Speaker 1>always leaves himself that opportunity. But the question before us

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<v Speaker 1>is if he doesn't get those things with clarity, then

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<v Speaker 1>he's got a legacy issue. This was my argument that

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<v Speaker 1>if you have the Iranians enriching uranium at all, one

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<v Speaker 1>centrifuge spins legacy shattered. That's reality. That's the harsh reality.

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<v Speaker 1>And certainly that had to be known going into all

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<v Speaker 1>of this. And I'll say it again, I support ending

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<v Speaker 1>the regime. I support ending these terrorists so we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to put up with these terrorists anymore. I absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>support ending them. The President was okay with the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of behavior change. I think this was a mistake, an

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<v Speaker 1>incredible mistake on his part. You had to know that

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to do the thing. You have to do

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<v Speaker 1>the thing in totality. But there was the story as

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking about from the war Wall Street Journal

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<v Speaker 1>about the survival economy, and I said, this falls into

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation we had yesterday. And I am not somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who buys into this. Iran is defying US pressure by

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<v Speaker 1>becoming a survival economy. Who in Iran is becoming the

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<v Speaker 1>survival economy? That's the question before US. Tehran's leaders focus

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<v Speaker 1>on subsistence in bid to outlast sanctions in a naval blockade.

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<v Speaker 2>So the people.

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<v Speaker 1>Aren't in on this, The people aren't down for this.

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<v Speaker 1>The IRGC is saying that we're okay living on rice

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<v Speaker 1>and water. We are absolutely going to outlast because you

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<v Speaker 1>can't handle high gas prices.

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<v Speaker 2>That's now. So we have the argument here.

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<v Speaker 1>We have what it is and we can keep this

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<v Speaker 1>is Iran speaking of the Ranium regime.

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<v Speaker 2>We can keep throwing bombs and drones at.

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<v Speaker 1>US bases and can kill a soldier here and kill

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<v Speaker 1>a soldier there, and you guys can't take it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>this would tell me certainly that you don't stop the bombings.

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<v Speaker 1>And certainly, as we've discussed, the deal has to be made.

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<v Speaker 1>With the other nations in the Gulf, and they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to have to be the ones who go in, or

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to have to arm the Kurds. There are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of options. The question is will they be taken?

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<v Speaker 1>But the idea that Iran is this defiant power the

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<v Speaker 1>problem with this story. It's the same story with the

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<v Speaker 1>people who utilize the term for forever wars. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean anything. That's what they're doing today after what we

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<v Speaker 1>already did to them. What if what we did to

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<v Speaker 1>them we keep doing to them. Exactly how long does

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<v Speaker 1>their survival economy last? How long does it last? And

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<v Speaker 1>the answer is can't be very long. They this is

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<v Speaker 1>an admission of their issues, rationing scarce goods, limiting access

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<v Speaker 1>to foreign currency, slashing investment, putting the burden onto households,

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<v Speaker 1>preserving imports, trying to keep safe a machinery of the state,

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<v Speaker 1>rising poverty, you get dysfunction. But it allows them to

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<v Speaker 1>stall the talks with the United States. I would look

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<v Speaker 1>at that as opportunity, and I would look at that

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<v Speaker 1>and say, this means that there's an opportunity for further

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<v Speaker 1>and further unrest amongst the Iranian people to happen to

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<v Speaker 1>allow them to further and further rise up against the regime. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the regime are a bunch of murderers. They've murdered sixty

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<v Speaker 1>seventy thousand people. To be clear, they the Iranian regime,

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<v Speaker 1>have murdered more of their citizens than Hamas fighting terrorists.

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<v Speaker 1>Lowlifes were killed by the Israelis. Yet somehow Israel is

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<v Speaker 1>the group guilty of genocide.

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<v Speaker 2>Stop it right there.

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<v Speaker 1>We could just end that whole conversation, as that conversation

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<v Speaker 1>has well been ended. It said, it's noise, it's pablem

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<v Speaker 1>said in a regurgitated Pavlovian response by nonsense merchants. Of

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<v Speaker 1>course everybody knows this, and of course everybody knows that

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<v Speaker 1>Hamas is a terrorist organization that started this fight, and

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<v Speaker 1>that the quote unquote Palestinian people in the main supported

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<v Speaker 1>Hamas and didn't do anything to help free those hostages.

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<v Speaker 1>Hostages held and people knew where they were and no

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<v Speaker 1>one did a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>They were fine with it. They were good with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's not think that we're dealing with the poor downtrodden

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<v Speaker 1>people there. These are people abused by Hamas. These are

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<v Speaker 1>people who abused the Israelis, these Jews and Americans and others,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, and they were thrilled to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>No one wants to discuss this reality, but it is

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<v Speaker 1>indeed a reality.

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<v Speaker 2>It is the.

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<v Speaker 1>Factual situation on the ground. Iran has murdered more people.

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<v Speaker 1>No one calls them genocidal. It seems pretty genocidal to

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<v Speaker 1>anybody who has a brain and who is thinking. If

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<v Speaker 1>you want the people to rise up, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>give them the skill set by which to rise up,

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<v Speaker 1>which means you have to arm them.

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<v Speaker 2>One way or another. Now, how do you arm the people?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this is the conversation about the Kurds, and how

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<v Speaker 1>do you arm the Kurds, which is this ethnic group

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<v Speaker 1>that comes from the region. There's a tremendous, tremendous population,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can do that and they will do the work.

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<v Speaker 1>They've stated through reporting that they will do the work.

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<v Speaker 2>And if they will do the work, why aren't we

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<v Speaker 2>doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, one of the reasons we're not doing it is

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<v Speaker 1>because this was a plan from the Israelis, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was jd Vance who got wind of it and.

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<v Speaker 2>Said, now, let's let's not do this.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, let's leak this, let's not get this out there,

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<v Speaker 1>let's not do this thing, and that was the end

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<v Speaker 1>of that. A mistake, in my view, a massive mistake.

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<v Speaker 2>In my view.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, one could have argued that, hey, maybe this plan

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<v Speaker 1>isn't the best plan. That's at least a conversation amongst

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<v Speaker 1>military experts, people in the know. People have an idea. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>if you do this, here's the reaction to this, and

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<v Speaker 1>here's how this group is going to respond. Here's how

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<v Speaker 1>this other group is going to do things right. You

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<v Speaker 1>could have all of that. But to say, hey, let

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<v Speaker 1>me leak this so nothing happens whatsoever and eliminate the possibility,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's an absolutely massive mistake, a serious, serious error.

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<v Speaker 1>But it goes along with jd Vance's view of this,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jade Vance's view of this is not a good view.

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<v Speaker 2>You either end the regime or we stay in this place.

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump seems okay to stay in this place where

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<v Speaker 1>the blockade is there. You keep saying that the Strait

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<v Speaker 1>is in our control, but nothing shows that it's in

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<v Speaker 1>our control, and you weight them out the siege mentality.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you have a siege mentality without continued bombings.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a big mistake. I think you have

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<v Speaker 1>to make things uncomfortable for the IRGC, and the way

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<v Speaker 1>you make things uncomfortable for the IRGC is they have

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<v Speaker 1>to die. There's ways to do that. You could do

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<v Speaker 1>it from the air, but I think you're gonna need people.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to need people on the ground. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear more from the President about the pressure put

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<v Speaker 1>on these Gulf nations. And you'll note you still haven't

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<v Speaker 1>seen any movement from the Israelis. Absolutely nothing still on

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<v Speaker 1>the Sidelast. The only thing you've heard from the Israelis

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<v Speaker 1>recently is that they looked at the deal regarding a

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<v Speaker 1>Hamas surrender and they're like, Nah, that's not going to work.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not pulling a single troop out of Gaza until

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<v Speaker 1>every Hamas fighter has surrendered and we have every single weapon.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know how you're going to prove that.

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<v Speaker 2>So there we are there.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I like this idea of the border peace,

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<v Speaker 1>although I think it's a terrible name, and I like

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of other nations investing in Gaza therefore and

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<v Speaker 1>some skin in the game.

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<v Speaker 2>I like all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole rethink of the Middle East I like, but

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<v Speaker 1>that rethink is coming from the president, and it has

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<v Speaker 1>had levels of success. Why isn't that rethink coming from

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<v Speaker 1>the other Middle East nations saying if Aram's gone, our

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<v Speaker 1>life is easier, If this regime is gone, our life

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<v Speaker 1>is better. What are we doing? What are we waiting for?

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<v Speaker 1>They've never been this week. Let's go to work, Tony,

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<v Speaker 1>their week. But they're still able to do this, this, this, this,

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<v Speaker 1>and this, Yes, and imagine what happens, and they could

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<v Speaker 1>have a nuclear weapon. So I'm glad we took out

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<v Speaker 1>those facilities. I am Tony. They were never close to

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<v Speaker 1>a nuclear weapon. It was all a lie. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>believe any of that, Like I don't believe that the

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<v Speaker 1>US was forced into this, manipulated by Israel. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>believe in any of that either, Not for a second

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<v Speaker 1>do I buy into any of that. The threat is

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<v Speaker 1>the threat, and they've always shown themselves to be the threat,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're still showing themselves to be the threat. So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why anybody would think that somehow you

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<v Speaker 1>had to be drawn into something when it was clear

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<v Speaker 1>and obvious.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's a reason that Israel right now is on

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<v Speaker 2>the sidelines.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a reason that being kept on the sidelines that

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<v Speaker 1>much is crystal crystal, crystal clear.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know why at this moment they.

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<v Speaker 1>Aren't being unleashed to do more of what they can do,

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<v Speaker 1>which is this precision attack, precision fighting, and maybe further

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<v Speaker 1>crack the IRGC, which would create opportunities for us.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's coming.

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<v Speaker 1>But the idea of Iran is able to wade us

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<v Speaker 1>out because they are in a survival economy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's now, when the water runs.

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<v Speaker 1>Out, when the beans run out, you know, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, there comes a moment where this becomes

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<v Speaker 1>more and more untenable for the people, and they are

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<v Speaker 1>something you have to contend with. Now, the world's going

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<v Speaker 1>to watch these people get murdered by the Iranian regime. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>so far they have, world's done absolutely nothing. How long

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<v Speaker 1>does that last?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is a high stakes game, no question, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a serious high stakes game. If we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>go the siege route, I don't have a choice. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the update we go the siege route. Does Iran have

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<v Speaker 1>the desire to wait us out? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 2>Right now? Do they have will? Absolutely? Do we I

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<v Speaker 2>would hope so?

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<v Speaker 1>And do I think that President Trump has wholly given

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<v Speaker 1>up on this. He actually don't. Maybe you can call

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<v Speaker 1>it naive it, maybe you can call it hope. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just I think he's trying different tactics in all the ways.

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<v Speaker 1>He tries different things, and if it's come to a

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<v Speaker 1>place of weigh him out, he's gonna try it to

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<v Speaker 1>wag him out, especially if he.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't think it hurts him too bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Just stop saying that the strait is open, we have control.

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<v Speaker 1>If we had control, oil would be below eighty dollars

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<v Speaker 1>a barrel. We don't yet, So get it or stop

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<v Speaker 1>saying it. That's that is, at the very least, would

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<v Speaker 1>make us all happy because we're tired of hearing.

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<v Speaker 2>The nonsense about this.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep it here. I'm Tony Kats. Find everything at tonycats

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. This is Tony Kats today.

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<v Speaker 6>We've got twelve and a half billion dollars a little

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<v Speaker 6>less than a year ago, about ten months ago, and

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<v Speaker 6>we have been working over time to deliver for the

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<v Speaker 6>American people. So thus far we have changed out sixty

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<v Speaker 6>percent of the copper to fiber. Once we get done

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<v Speaker 6>switching over to fiber, where they're going to have to

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<v Speaker 6>take our network from analog to digital. Don't laugh at us.

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<v Speaker 6>Most companies have done this years ago. We are about

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<v Speaker 6>to do that here at the FAA.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's embarrassing this modernization that's only happening now at

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<v Speaker 1>our airports.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's like the Cobbler's kids.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, everybody has shoes, and the cobblers kids doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>because the Cobbler's too busy make and choose for the

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<v Speaker 1>other people. It's kind of that, and it's kind of,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just a whole bunch of ignorance until now.

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Kats. Tony Kats today, A pleasure to be here, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for you, Thanks to you for being here. If

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<v Speaker 1>I could talk, i'd be a great radio host. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the Secretary of Transportation Sean Duffy saying we're modernizing,

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<v Speaker 1>We're getting things on track, We're working on getting things done.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the press conference yesterday.

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<v Speaker 6>We have installed ninety six surface awareness systems like the

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<v Speaker 6>one we are going to deploy today here at Newark.

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<v Speaker 6>We have deployed nine new radar systems, three hundred and

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<v Speaker 6>sixty three analogue radios that we use between air traffic

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<v Speaker 6>controllers and our pilots and airplanes. That's going from analog

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<v Speaker 6>to digital. Nineteen towers have been converted to electronic flight strips.

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<v Speaker 6>We have one hundred and fifty one new voice switch

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<v Speaker 6>systems across America.

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<v Speaker 2>They are making moves.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thrilled to see it, and I'm I'm a fan

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<v Speaker 1>of Sean Duffies. I think he has been outrageously impressive.

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<v Speaker 1>You go back to his first day on the job,

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<v Speaker 1>he gets sworn in, and then that evening you have

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<v Speaker 1>the Regional American Airlines jet hitting the helicopter outside of

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<v Speaker 1>DC on approach into Reagan National helicopter shouldn't have been there,

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<v Speaker 1>or a pilot error, as at least was reported, horrifying

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<v Speaker 1>people dead, awful, awful, terrible, And there he was less

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<v Speaker 1>than a day on the job doing this, and he

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<v Speaker 1>has been on top of it and professional ever since.

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<v Speaker 2>And it is not glamorous.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense, Secretary of

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<v Speaker 1>the Treasury. It's not glamorous. It's just getting done day

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<v Speaker 1>by day. This isn't Pete Buddha judges to Apartment of

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<v Speaker 1>Transportation where there's talk of chuotchoo trains and look at me,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm riding my bike to work. After the suv drops

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<v Speaker 1>me off two blocks from the office.

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<v Speaker 2>That happened. You saw it, and I, oh, yeah, if

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't know that, actually that actually was a thing

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<v Speaker 2>that happened.

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<v Speaker 1>No work's getting done, the systems are getting upgraded.

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<v Speaker 2>This is good.

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<v Speaker 1>This is I can't even believe I'm saying this regarding

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<v Speaker 1>government but efficient. I'm thrilled by what I'm seeing, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thrilled to have somebody who is focused on not

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<v Speaker 1>pretending to breastfeed, but is focused on the job. These

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<v Speaker 1>things matter, and they are indeed unglamorous, but they do

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<v Speaker 1>require our time. You know, I am a believer that

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<v Speaker 1>we should end the income tax. Oh, I wholeheartedly believe

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<v Speaker 1>that the income tax is a sin. The idea that

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<v Speaker 1>government has any connection to my labor, has any right

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<v Speaker 1>to my labor, is nonsense. I also argue that no

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<v Speaker 1>good has ever come from the income tax. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>differently on a state level, although when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>income taxes, I'm always the same. But states can do

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<v Speaker 1>things that I believe the federal government should not be

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to do. We should absolutely get rid of the

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<v Speaker 1>income tax. That is different than whether or not I

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<v Speaker 1>believe they can collect taxes. It's different than whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not I believe that there is a price to pay

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<v Speaker 1>for the liberty society and keeping these things going and

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<v Speaker 1>flowing and working. Now we can argue that's not the

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<v Speaker 1>role of government, that's actually the role of the airport itself. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we can discuss an idea of standards. We can discuss

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<v Speaker 1>that we may not want big government, but we can

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<v Speaker 1>at least agree in an article on section eight. We

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<v Speaker 1>can agree on some basic skills things. And if this

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be one of the basic things we

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<v Speaker 1>agree on, I don't mind it being funded. What I

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<v Speaker 1>want is professionalism. I want to focus on making sure

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<v Speaker 1>the dollar is not misspent or mis managed, and I

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<v Speaker 1>want results to that end.

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<v Speaker 2>I like seeing this.

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Duffy is getting results, and this is good.

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<v Speaker 2>This is very, very very good. I want to see

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<v Speaker 2>more of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not one hundred percent sure in what other capacity

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to see it, what Department of transportation, There

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<v Speaker 1>could be some.

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<v Speaker 2>Things, but this is what we want to see across

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<v Speaker 2>the board. If we're going to spend our money, we

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<v Speaker 2>want success.

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<v Speaker 1>We want to see rational people, professional people, doing a professional.

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<v Speaker 2>Job and getting it done quickly and clearly. Good on

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<v Speaker 2>Seawan Duffy. This is Tony Kats today.

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<v Speaker 1>So the numbers come in on the consumer price index,

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<v Speaker 1>an inflation conversation, and they're up point one point one.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh that ain't that ain't bad at all. The annual

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<v Speaker 1>rates three point four, Well, that's not great, but it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Not going up. If inflation is not going up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to tell the Federal Reserve don't do any

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<v Speaker 1>rate hikes because they want to because inflation is still

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<v Speaker 1>too high. But the measure doesn't make any sense when

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<v Speaker 1>you get rid of food and energy, volatile energy and

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<v Speaker 1>it goes up to point two. I don't understand what's

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<v Speaker 1>happening here, Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, Good to be

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<v Speaker 1>with you. Doctor Batt Will, economist at the University of Indianapolis,

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<v Speaker 1>is here to make it all make sense. This is peculiar, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's a lot of conversation about that. The Fed

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<v Speaker 1>was going to raise rates in September. You have two

0:20:40.280 --> 0:20:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Federal Reserve governors who want to do that because the

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<v Speaker 1>inflation is still too high. Tariffs are causing that. Tarots

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<v Speaker 1>did not create an explosion of inflation. It's just keeping

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<v Speaker 1>it higher than we want it to. Be, but you

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<v Speaker 1>also have this madness of oil prices because of what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on in Iran that's having an effect. Yet somehow,

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<v Speaker 1>if I take energy out, the measure of inflation goes up,

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<v Speaker 1>and that doesn't make any sense at all. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>start where we start, doctor Matt Will. What does this

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<v Speaker 1>report say to you?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, first of all, you got to remember that this

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<v Speaker 4>is not the report that the FED is going to

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<v Speaker 4>use to make decisions. But it does give Kevin Walsh

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<v Speaker 4>cover and we spoke of that just about that just

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<v Speaker 4>a few days ago. Kevin now has more time. This

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<v Speaker 4>is a good enough report that it's going to give

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<v Speaker 4>him some breathing room again to not have to make

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<v Speaker 4>a decision to increase rates to control inflation, because this

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<v Speaker 4>isn't the measure that they use to make their decisions.

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<v Speaker 4>But here's the good news. So the report point one

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<v Speaker 4>for the months, it's now a trend. Last month it

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<v Speaker 4>was down point four down. So we now have a

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<v Speaker 4>two month decent trend in the CPI, which is what

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<v Speaker 4>you and I pay when we go to the grocery

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<v Speaker 4>store core you mentioned at point two point two. That's

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<v Speaker 4>two point four annualized. That's still too high, but the

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<v Speaker 4>rest of the report gives him cover. In fact, when

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<v Speaker 4>you dig down into the details, almost every category is

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<v Speaker 4>in good shape. The only two that are not are

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<v Speaker 4>airline tickets, which are two point two percent for the month,

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<v Speaker 4>and healthcare, which is point six. The healthcare is persistent.

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<v Speaker 4>We continue to see an increase in healthcare inflation. That

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<v Speaker 4>is the big red flag in this report. If there

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<v Speaker 4>is one, the airlines, I'm not worried about. That's a

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<v Speaker 4>blip because they have contracted inventory during the whole situation

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<v Speaker 4>with Iran. They're going to expand their inventory once things stabilize.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a good report. It's not a decision report. But

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<v Speaker 4>the bottom line for me is it gives Kevin Walsh

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<v Speaker 4>more time to make the right decisions. So he should

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<v Speaker 4>be happy, and quite honestly, we should be happy because

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<v Speaker 4>he'll probably end up doing the right thing on inflation.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, let me you said trend. Now, let me go

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<v Speaker 1>through a couple numbers with you. If I take a

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<v Speaker 1>look at all items from May, June and July, all

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<v Speaker 1>items was point five negative point four and last month

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<v Speaker 1>point one that we're discussing. If I take out food

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<v Speaker 1>and energy, it goes point two zero point zero and

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<v Speaker 1>then point two.

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<v Speaker 2>What we just saw in the month of July. What

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<v Speaker 2>the hell kind of trend does that?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, okay, it's not a uniform trend, but they're all low.

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<v Speaker 4>When you take with you, when you look at the core,

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<v Speaker 4>which you did, and those numbers you just listed, those

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<v Speaker 4>are consistently low. Now I know I'm saying low. You

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<v Speaker 4>and I don't agree. Two point four percent inflation is

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<v Speaker 4>not low, but it's lower than it was, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>low enough that it's going to allow him to not

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<v Speaker 4>have to take inflation reactions quickly. And again, I've told

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<v Speaker 4>you before and I'll say it again. I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>the way you fight inflation right now is by increasing

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<v Speaker 4>the Fed Funds rate. I think the Fed Funds rate

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<v Speaker 4>is stable. It should stay stable. I like where it's at.

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<v Speaker 4>The way that he wants to fight it, and the

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<v Speaker 4>way I also want to fight it is to begin

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<v Speaker 4>to sell assets off the balance sheet.

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<v Speaker 1>Talking to doctor Matt Will, economist at the University of Indianapolis,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll save that conversation for another day. Annual inflation rate

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<v Speaker 1>at three point four percent. We look at this, the

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<v Speaker 1>market looks at this and says, we don't care.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, okay, again, market's looking at it like I do.

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<v Speaker 4>That three point four percent is a government number that's

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<v Speaker 4>twelve months old. They're not looking twelve months old. The

0:24:24.440 --> 0:24:27.159
<v Speaker 4>market is looking at this month and last month, and

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<v Speaker 4>both of these months. If you look at the headline

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<v Speaker 4>number negative point four and point one. The market likes it.

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<v Speaker 4>So immediately when this report was released, four things happened.

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<v Speaker 4>We saw that the Nasdaq went up, We saw that

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<v Speaker 4>the Dow went up. We saw that interest rates went

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<v Speaker 4>down into both the ten year and the two year,

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<v Speaker 4>so we saw a decrease in rates. We saw an

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<v Speaker 4>increase in the stock market. The market likes this report

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<v Speaker 4>because they see the same thing I see. Kevin Varsh

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<v Speaker 4>gets breathing room, and that's what they want him to have.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, you're going to drag me into this conversation

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<v Speaker 1>because your argument, sir, is that the removing of things

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<v Speaker 1>from the balance sheet is the golden goose. Once that

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<v Speaker 1>starts happening, everybody does better. The tariffs won't matter, oil

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<v Speaker 1>prices won't matter. Your pain in the ass brother in

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<v Speaker 1>law won't matter. Nothing matters if we take things off

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<v Speaker 1>the balance sheet. First, describe what it means to take

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<v Speaker 1>things off the balance sheet. What is Kevin Walsh, the

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<v Speaker 1>new chair of the Federal Reserve, believes in, And then

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<v Speaker 1>is it indeed the panacea we've all been hoping for.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'm gonna answer your first your second question. First,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not the panacea, but it's one of the pieces.

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<v Speaker 4>Tariffs are the other piece, and that is a big,

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<v Speaker 4>big problem. And I will refer people to an article

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<v Speaker 4>that you sent me about, you know, mister wonderful Kevin N.

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<v Speaker 4>Leary talking about how bad the tariffs are and how

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<v Speaker 4>the AI is covering up the damage done by those.

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<v Speaker 4>So no, it's not the panacea, but the way it

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<v Speaker 4>works is very simple. The Fed and anybody should look

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<v Speaker 4>this up. Just go to Google and look up FED

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<v Speaker 4>balance sheet and look at the image. Look up images.

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<v Speaker 4>You'll see this massive balance sheet that they have. They

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<v Speaker 4>own all these assets, mortgages, treasury bills. They need to

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<v Speaker 4>sell those. They've been buying them to juice the economy

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<v Speaker 4>that was wrong. They need to sell them because here's

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<v Speaker 4>what happens. They sell a bond because the government owns it.

0:26:30.080 --> 0:26:32.640
<v Speaker 4>They sell a mortgage because the government owns it. As

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<v Speaker 4>soon as they sell those, they receive cash. And that

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<v Speaker 4>cash is removed from the economy. That is the key.

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<v Speaker 4>When they remove the cash from the economy, inflation goes down.

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<v Speaker 4>They need to sell these assets. They need to take

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<v Speaker 4>cash out of the economy. Kevin Warsh knows that's the

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<v Speaker 4>way to do it, not by increasing interest rates. That

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<v Speaker 4>is not the right solution. Interest rates are now in

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<v Speaker 4>a very good equilibrium location. Now they need to sell

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<v Speaker 4>assets and pull that cash out of the economy. But

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<v Speaker 4>there are other parts, like we mentioned, like tariffs, like

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<v Speaker 4>federal government deficits.

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<v Speaker 1>Talking to doctor Matt Wyal, economists at the University of Indianapolis,

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<v Speaker 1>let me throw a curve your way. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you about the report, but in the world

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<v Speaker 1>of ai as, what I had sent you regarding Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>O'Leary is that Kevin O'Leary's point is that we're spending

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<v Speaker 1>so much money investing in AI it is booying the economy.

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<v Speaker 2>And if it wasn't for that, the tariffs.

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<v Speaker 1>Would knock this not out of this economy and break

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<v Speaker 1>it into And I sent that to you and your

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<v Speaker 1>response to me was where I was at. He clearly

0:27:42.520 --> 0:27:46.080
<v Speaker 1>listens to our conversations. He's listening to the show every

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<v Speaker 1>single day. We've been having this conversation for over a

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<v Speaker 1>year now in different ways. But on the AI tip,

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<v Speaker 1>Brad Lightcamp, who was the chief operating officer for open Ai,

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<v Speaker 1>has left the company. He's going to start something new.

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<v Speaker 1>The question before us is is this a sign of

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<v Speaker 1>something bad that at the one of the bigger AI

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<v Speaker 1>groups that you're starting to see it's not just him.

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<v Speaker 2>You're seeing people head for the exits.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait, wait, are they heading for the exits or are

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<v Speaker 4>they heading for new opportunities? I mean, think about it.

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<v Speaker 4>If you were a big shot in one of these companies,

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<v Speaker 4>You've got your stock options, you've got your pay that

0:28:31.800 --> 0:28:35.280
<v Speaker 4>you've made over the years you cashed in. But wait,

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<v Speaker 4>we're at the beginning of this boom, and I believe

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<v Speaker 4>we're at the beginning of this boom. Wouldn't you go

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<v Speaker 4>off and be, you know, the next Steve Jobs, the

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<v Speaker 4>next Bill Gates. Wouldn't you want to start your own

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<v Speaker 4>I really believe that these people know there's a golden

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<v Speaker 4>goose out there and they're going to go get their own.

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<v Speaker 2>When you say get their own, that is to believe

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<v Speaker 2>that is to believe that there's more investment to come.

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<v Speaker 2>We're already into the We're over a trillion dollars in

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<v Speaker 2>the investments, and you're telling me that there's more to come. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a believer that the pie is finite, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a player in that, but even I have

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<v Speaker 1>to ask the question, exactly how much more investment can

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<v Speaker 1>there possibly be?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I don't have the number in front of me

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<v Speaker 4>at my fingertips, but just go look at what Meta

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<v Speaker 4>did last two weeks. They announced massive bond issues for

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<v Speaker 4>the purposes of getting so much cash that could dump

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<v Speaker 4>into data centers and AI development. Apple, which is way

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<v Speaker 4>behind the curve on this. They aren't even in the

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<v Speaker 4>game yet. Wait till they get into the AI game.

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<v Speaker 4>Apple has a history. I'm not a fan of Apple's

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<v Speaker 4>r indeed since Steve Jobs passed, but I got to

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<v Speaker 4>tell you they's nothing to be sneezed at. This company

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<v Speaker 4>knows what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 3>This.

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<v Speaker 4>People are going to look back and, oh, you're kidding me.

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<v Speaker 4>I should have gotten into the E the AI early.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's not too late to get in on AI.

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<v Speaker 4>This thing is just beginning to take off. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I could give you this week of people entrepreneurs I've

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<v Speaker 4>had conversations with who are saying it's revolutionizing their business

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<v Speaker 4>across the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Great, it's revolutionizing their business across the world. And there

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be plenty of places that there's pushback on,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know what, we tried to say, I crap

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<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 2>We tried to say I stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, we actually need people again these things

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<v Speaker 1>EBB and flow.

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<v Speaker 2>My question was.

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<v Speaker 1>To the idea of is there a moment where markets

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<v Speaker 1>say that's too much investment, that you guys are spending

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<v Speaker 1>in the wrong places. We need to self correct on

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<v Speaker 1>all of this because you're all being ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what. The answer is, yes, but this is

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<v Speaker 4>not that situation. This is not a bubble like two

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<v Speaker 4>thousand and one. Because these companies have earnings. These companies

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<v Speaker 4>up profits. Another reason that we see CPI being moderated

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<v Speaker 4>and not let's go back to the original topic and

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<v Speaker 4>not the producer prices those things are still inflated is

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<v Speaker 4>because the profits are so huge. These profits are justified.

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<v Speaker 4>These prices are justified when you see the price of

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<v Speaker 4>a stock going up. This is not you know, a

0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:24.680
<v Speaker 4>one hundred times earnings with no earnings. Sometimes these are earnings,

0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:27.720
<v Speaker 4>these are profits, and the prices are reasonable given the

0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:31.080
<v Speaker 4>growth in these companies. There is no bubble here. There

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<v Speaker 4>is will the market go down at some point, of course,

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<v Speaker 4>but there is no bubble that we're looking at in

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<v Speaker 4>the near future.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Matt Well, economist at the University of Indianapolis. I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you taking the time to be with us. Keep

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<v Speaker 1>it right here. This is Tony Katz today. So those

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<v Speaker 1>primary results, yeah, sure, the progressive wins in Minnesota in

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<v Speaker 1>that center right, so the Democrats. But it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>Angie Craig wasn't also going to be a leftist. It's

0:31:56.280 --> 0:32:00.480
<v Speaker 1>that Peggy Flanagan is a ridiculous life leftist.

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<v Speaker 2>Tony Katz, Tony Katz today.

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<v Speaker 1>These are the people who else who decided that Amy

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<v Speaker 1>Klobachar should be the nominee for governor. I mean, she's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get elected governor. It's unbelievable to witness. I've always argued, though,

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<v Speaker 1>that Klobachar has something in her that has the capacity

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<v Speaker 1>to be normal. I believe that she has it in her.

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<v Speaker 1>The question is will she do it? And more often

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<v Speaker 1>than not, she chooses no. She'd rather just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>throw a stapler at you or use it to eat

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<v Speaker 1>a salad.

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<v Speaker 2>She's an odd, odd bird.

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<v Speaker 1>And then in Wisconsin, the big one, Francesca Hung loses

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<v Speaker 1>the primary.

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<v Speaker 2>She loses the.

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<v Speaker 1>Primary when she was twenty two points ahead, twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>points in some poles, she was double digits ahead. And

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<v Speaker 1>in the end she loses the primary to David Crowley,

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<v Speaker 1>whose name you never heard in Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 2>How does that happen? How did they get the polling

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<v Speaker 2>so wrong?

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<v Speaker 1>Listen the socialists, which is to say, the communist doesn't care.

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<v Speaker 1>They're moving forward, they're moving forward to pace because they've

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<v Speaker 1>got a plan, they've got a strategy, they've got a philosophy.

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:20.280
<v Speaker 1>And this is Zaron Mamdani before he was mayor, when

0:33:20.320 --> 0:33:24.440
<v Speaker 1>he was community organizer. Are just you know layman KMMI Islamist,

0:33:25.000 --> 0:33:28.080
<v Speaker 1>a living example of the right Green Alliance, and this

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<v Speaker 1>was his plan and strategy.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that with the interesting thing about our communities

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<v Speaker 5>here is I think that minority communities, because we have

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<v Speaker 5>never had representation, we are tied much more to identity.

0:33:42.720 --> 0:33:46.760
<v Speaker 5>White communities they've had representation forever, and so for them,

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<v Speaker 5>their tie is a little less identity and a little

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<v Speaker 5>more ideology. And so what I mean by that is,

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<v Speaker 5>we have a lot of voters here who think of

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<v Speaker 5>themselves first as progressive voters, and so we reach out

0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:02.640
<v Speaker 5>to them speaking about our platform, our progressive platform. And

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<v Speaker 5>you're very right that you need someone in the middle

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<v Speaker 5>to be a validator, someone to tell them to trust us,

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<v Speaker 5>believe in us. We've had that with Tiffany Kaban and

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<v Speaker 5>Cynthia Nixon.

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<v Speaker 1>So the plan is to use liberal white women like

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<v Speaker 1>like Cynthia Nixon, or just liberal women in general, to

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<v Speaker 1>get yourself into white communities to get them to vote

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<v Speaker 1>for you. I will say liberal women. I've always said this,

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<v Speaker 1>liberal white women most dangerous people in America because they'll

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<v Speaker 1>allow anything.

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<v Speaker 2>They will allow anything.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's an interesting point about identity versus ideology. This

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<v Speaker 1>is black people voting for black candidates, Muslims voting for

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<v Speaker 1>Muslim candidates, So we don't care about anything else, just

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<v Speaker 1>muslim click check.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't, we can't have this. They're the ones screaming racism.

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<v Speaker 1>They're the ones screaming all sorts of xenophobic this and

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<v Speaker 1>and whiteness is the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at what they're doing. They're admitted to who they

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<v Speaker 2>are and how they work and all the rest.

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<v Speaker 1>We could get these people to vote as this block

0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:11.600
<v Speaker 1>because the only thing that will matter is that we

0:35:11.640 --> 0:35:16.759
<v Speaker 1>share this skin color or this identity, and we'll use

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:19.399
<v Speaker 1>liberal white women to get white women to come for us,

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<v Speaker 1>to come to our side, to.

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<v Speaker 2>Vote for us.

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<v Speaker 1>That's very telling. That's a plan, that's a strategy. Before

0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:34.439
<v Speaker 1>you knew his name, he was working the game. He

0:35:34.600 --> 0:35:38.520
<v Speaker 1>was working the strategy. Do we understand what it is

0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:43.000
<v Speaker 1>that we're up against when we talk about these communists?

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<v Speaker 1>How long it's been happened? And this goes back to

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<v Speaker 1>the Secretary of States report on Cuba. This has been

0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:53.080
<v Speaker 1>the effort and it's getting results. And they don't care

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<v Speaker 1>if they lose some primary Wisconsin. They'll be back at

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<v Speaker 1>it two years, and you better damn we'll be ready

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<v Speaker 1>for it. Find out every thing at Tonycotts dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll catch you tomorrow. Everybody, take care