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Speaker 1: Hammer and Nigel. Do you believe these characters are weirdos?

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Speaker 2: So? Oh boy, my name is Nigel. That's Jason Hammer.

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Speaker 2: A little feud brewin here, Governor Braun versus Senate pro

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Speaker 2: Tem Rod Bray. Uh, Hammer, I was out Friday. You've

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Speaker 2: been following this. Maybe take us through the timeline, starting

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Speaker 2: with what Rod Bray had to say on Friday.

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Speaker 3: Before we get rolling. Let me just point out some

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Speaker 3: of us didn't like Rod Bray before it was cool.

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Speaker 3: I'm just throwing that out there, long before the President

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Speaker 3: got involved and everything else.

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Speaker 1: Some of us.

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Speaker 3: Standing before you today thought this dude, Pete sitting down

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Speaker 3: before it was cool. So let's go back to Friday. Okay, Okay, Friday,

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Speaker 3: Senate pro t him Rod Bray says, you know what,

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Speaker 3: We're not going to come in and have a special session.

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Speaker 1: Nah, not gonna do it.

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Speaker 3: We don't have the votes, We're not gonna waste taxpayer money.

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Speaker 2: We're not going to redistrict. We're not even going to

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Speaker 2: talk about it correctly. We're going to discuss it. Screw it.

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Speaker 3: So then Governor Mike Brown, who had called for the

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Speaker 3: special session to begin with, puts out a statement, quote,

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Speaker 3: our state Senators need to do the right thing and

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Speaker 3: show up to vote for fair maps. Hoosiers deserve to

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Speaker 3: know where their elected officials stand on important issues. I

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Speaker 3: will say this, I understand a little bit of where

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Speaker 3: Rob Kendall's coming from because he's very anti redistrict I

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Speaker 3: made that perfectly clear.

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Speaker 2: I heard your segment within the Kendall and Casey show

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Speaker 2: this morning. You made it very clear.

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Speaker 1: I like that.

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Speaker 3: I think if you're going to get these dudes on

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Speaker 3: the record for redistricting, which I am in favor of,

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Speaker 3: you should do it for everything though, But that's not

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Speaker 3: going to happen property taxes. I would have loved to

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Speaker 3: have seen where some of these guys were at with

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Speaker 1: All of us. It would have been nice.

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Speaker 3: So let's go to yesterday. Now, Okay, we're going down

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Speaker 3: the timeline. Yesterday, the Potus gets involved Donald Trump on

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Speaker 3: truth social quote. Very disappointed in Indiana State Senate Republicans

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Speaker 3: led by Rhinos Senators Rob Bray and Greg good Oh

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Speaker 3: for not wanting to redistrict their states and allowing the

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Speaker 3: United States Congress to perhaps gain two more Republican seats.

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Speaker 3: The Democrats have done redistricting for years, often illegally, and

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Speaker 3: all other appropriate Republican states have done it. Because of

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Speaker 3: these two politically correct type quote gentlemen and a few others,

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Speaker 3: they could be depriving Republicans of a majority in the House.

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Speaker 1: Can I believe? Can I just dive you right here?

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Speaker 2: Like when I saw this pop up on my feed

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Speaker 2: because I was traveling yesterday back from where you know,

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Speaker 2: I was stunned. We haven't got to the good part yet.

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Speaker 2: It goes on. California is trying to pick up five seats.

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Speaker 2: No one's complaining about that.

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Speaker 3: It's weak Republicans that cause our country such problems, and

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Speaker 3: that's why we have crazy policies and ideas that are

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Speaker 3: so bad for America. Also, a friend of mine, Governor

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Speaker 3: Mike Brawn, perhaps is not working the way he should

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Speaker 3: the governor without me, not even close. Is disappointing. Any

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Speaker 1: And it goes on and on and on.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Senator Bray and good should do their jobs right now.

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Speaker 3: So the president's involved, Donald Trump, Well, yeah, because he

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Speaker 3: knows what's going to happen if Democrats take the House.

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Speaker 3: Here comes another round of impeachments. Whether it's fair or not,

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Speaker 3: it's happening.

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Speaker 1: It's very simple. Hammer.

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Speaker 2: Let's say we go through the midterms next year, they

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Speaker 2: seats short, right, Oh my goodness, Well what could have

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Speaker 1: This is what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, again, I say a year ago, I mean

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Speaker 3: Right, And this is where Rob and I differ because

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Speaker 3: Rob has always wanted to be the virtuous one. We're

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Speaker 3: not going to do this. This is what the Democrats do.

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Speaker 3: Nobody wants this. First of all, I think there's a

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Speaker 1: Those weird polls and stuff, right.

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Speaker 3: And second of all, there's just two different types of people.

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Speaker 3: They are the people that want to win. It's a

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Speaker 3: be the guy in category number two. I fight back, dude.

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Speaker 3: I am waiting for these Republicans to fight back. Illinois

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Speaker 3: has been doing this crap for a long time. California's

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Speaker 3: to look pious and righteous and do the right thing.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Screw that. Fight fire with fire, hit him with their

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Speaker 3: And if that makes me the bad guy, as Scarface

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Speaker 3: once said, say hello to the bad guy.

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Speaker 2: Hell, but what happens if look Bray is saying they

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Speaker 2: didn't have the votes?

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Speaker 1: We don't have the votes, so we're not even gonna try.

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Speaker 1: I say, put it up to a vote and prove it.

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Speaker 3: Put it up to a vote and prove it if

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Speaker 3: you don't, Okay, but at least I know where these

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Speaker 1: Same thing with property taxes. If you don't have the votes.

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Speaker 3: Great, let me find out who's screwing me, because that's

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Speaker 3: important because local elections matter. And again I said it earlier,

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Speaker 3: I haven't liked Rod Bray for a while, and Casey

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Speaker 3: kind of got a little cute this morning saying, oh,

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Speaker 3: some people think he's a rhino.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm one.

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Speaker 3: I am some people because this dude was on the

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Speaker 3: wrong side of some very important arguments here constitutional carry Now,

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Speaker 3: two property tax. It wasn't the governor or even the

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Speaker 3: you to get property tax relief ever, but he's perfectly

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Speaker 3: fine with his elite group of butt sniffers all getting

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Speaker 1: And then you factor in this when.

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Speaker 3: Given the opportunity to fight back, when given the opportunity

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Speaker 2: You're a Marion County resident, I mean Andre Carson like

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Speaker 2: that's your representative, right and on a bigger, giant level,

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Speaker 2: like on a nationwide level, this could have ramifications next year.

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Speaker 2: Like I mentioned earlier, what if it comes down the

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Speaker 2: a sudden in the minority. When I say we the

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Speaker 2: Republicans in the country by this a sede or two, right,

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Speaker 1: That's such a great point.

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Speaker 3: Indiana, Rod Bray had the chance to fire Andre Carson,

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Speaker 3: who's done as much for the state of Indiana as

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Speaker 3: a bag of sand sitting in the studio, and.

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Speaker 1: They chose no. They didn't even want to have a

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Speaker 3: Same thing with Frank Mervan, that loser up in the

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Speaker 3: the one thing that I will meet Rob halfway on

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Speaker 3: is Okay, let's say you do redistrict it. You're gonna

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Speaker 3: get stuck with some squish ass fake Republican like Jefferson Shreeves.

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Speaker 3: I get it, but at this point I'm willing to

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Speaker 3: gamble you know me, I'll put some money down. I'm

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Speaker 3: a gambler. Maybe in four years from now there will

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Speaker 3: be a Republican that can do something. Maybe eight years

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Speaker 3: from now, I can vote for Christopher Hammer to get

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Speaker 3: this seat instead of having Andre Carson, the legacy pick,

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Speaker 3: getting just funneled into my district over and over again

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Speaker 3: and doing nothing.

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Speaker 1: It's worth a shot at the very least.

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Speaker 2: That is such a great description. The legacy pick hasn't

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Speaker 2: done that, just writing on his grandma's name right for

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Speaker 2: years and years and years, I mean, just a freeloader man.

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Speaker 1: Wow. And then fast forward to today.

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Speaker 3: Uh, this is from social media from Governor Mike bron quote.

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Speaker 3: I just had a great call with President Trump. I

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Speaker 3: told him I remain committed to standing with him on

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Speaker 3: the critical issues of passing fair maps in Indiana to

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Speaker 3: ensure the MAGA agenda is successful in Congress. And then

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Speaker 3: you've got Rod Bray speaking today, quote, I still expect

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Speaker 3: the Senate to begin work on January fifth. Aka, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you could say what you want. Trump can say what

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Speaker 3: he want, but uh, yeah, we're not going to be here.

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Speaker 3: We'll be here for the regular session January fifth. It

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Speaker 3: going to happen. So you've got a good old fashioned

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: Scheduled to join us tomorrow in studio at five oh

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Speaker 3: six is Governor Mike Brown, and I've talked to his

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Speaker 1: He is still a go.

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Speaker 3: I feel like we're going to have some things to

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