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Speaker 1: And grand Rising family, and welcome to Wednesday, the final

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Speaker 1: hump day of twenty twenty five a Barigani as well

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Speaker 1: the sixth day of Quanta of Baragani. Of course means

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Speaker 1: what's the news, That's what the tradition it means. But

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Speaker 1: what's happening, what's going down? And the real response would

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Speaker 1: be ka umba and which means creativity. Later this morning,

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Speaker 1: Public Enemies Minister of Information, Professor griff will reveal how

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Speaker 1: hip hop rapp and artists like Nicki Minaje are just

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Speaker 1: shaping the minds of our young people. He'll also unpack

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Speaker 1: the Global Plan for Africa and what he means for us.

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Speaker 1: Before Professor Griffough, therapist doctor Jason Anthony will share the

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Speaker 1: spotlight on some of the major emotional issues facing our youngsters,

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Speaker 1: and New York media analysts Wayne Gilmant and Reggie Thomas

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Speaker 1: will explain how Donald Trump has changed the way the

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Speaker 1: media reports the news these days, and momentarily Natural Paddic

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Speaker 1: doctor and the restaurant tour doctor Burrew coill join us.

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Speaker 1: But first let's get Kevin Opener. These classroom doors on

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Speaker 1: this final hump day of twenty twenty five, Grand Rising, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: Grand Rising, Carl Nelson, Hi, Barry Gunny got umba exactly

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Speaker 2: my brother and as Gil Scott Heron used to say,

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Speaker 2: what's the.

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Speaker 1: Word the word today komba.

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Speaker 2: It's this exprinciple of quansa, meaning creativity, focusing on leaving

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Speaker 2: your community more beautiful and more beneficial than you found

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Speaker 2: it through artistic expression, innovation, problems solving and other things

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Speaker 2: where you light the second green candle, set the mood

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Speaker 2: and of course dance around and you know, show your

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Speaker 2: creative abilities. You could write. You could paint, you know,

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Speaker 2: and I don't mean just paint the wall and talking.

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Speaker 2: You know, he could just actually paint a stick figure

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Speaker 2: or something. Write some poetry and it doesn't have to

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Speaker 2: be you know, like Maya Angelo necessarily write your own

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Speaker 2: you know then once was a man from Nantucket.

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Speaker 3: No, that's a limerick, that's not a poet. You know.

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Speaker 2: You can create music and sing a song you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm Happy to be me or something, you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: All right, well, speaking about music, Kevin, we lost one

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Speaker 2: Man on Tuesday, Yes, sir, man on such a sad note.

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Speaker 2: The great hometown talent Richard Smallwood Grammy nominated gospel singer

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Speaker 2: and pianists died yesterday at seventy seven years old.

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Speaker 3: Only seventy seven.

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Speaker 2: But Richard Smallwood made a mark man, especially around here

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Speaker 2: he disbanded the Richard Smallwood Singers. That was a small group.

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Speaker 2: All of us, especially the gospel supporters, were happy as

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Speaker 1: The right Howard as well. So it's just totally homegrown.

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Speaker 1: Right. Another musical icon in the news, Tom Bell in

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Speaker 2: Well, that Philadelphia sound it was. It was a romantic

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Speaker 2: But as we stay on the eulogy page, here a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, what a day checking out. Yeah. Also speaking

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Speaker 3: The gig business.

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Speaker 2: The gig business means you make so much money you

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Speaker 2: But for a jazz group, it doesn't seem like they

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Speaker 3: But why did they turn down this gig at the

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Speaker 1: Because of Donald Trump affixed his name to the building.

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Speaker 3: One word, right, one word, one name.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, the man put his name on a

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Speaker 1: But on the flip side, though, Kevin, the folks in

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Speaker 2: There's that opportunity to call us and tell us why.

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Speaker 2: And so it's New Year's Eve, and just one of

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Speaker 1: and that's what we eat black eyed peas. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: Well, no, I guess I have to go somewhere and

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Speaker 1: this is this is a ritual in our community, and

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Speaker 1: Let's get doctor explained to the family, because a lot

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Speaker 4: I haven't heard about the rice, but yeah, okay, light

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Speaker 1: Different ways to prepare a New Year's meal, and we

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Speaker 1: That's why we consume black eyed peas at this time

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, there are different ways to do it.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and you gotta keep it going down. As

438
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Speaker 4: a matter of fact, when you do eat foods that

439
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,439
Speaker 4: are hot, sometimes you got to put more food in

440
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Speaker 4: your mouth just to just to address the heat that

441
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Speaker 4: the mouth was having to deal with with the last

442
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Speaker 4: mouthful that you had. So he just it just keeps

443
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Speaker 4: it coming. Right.

444
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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, when folks who come into

445
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Speaker 1: the restaurant, Can they specifically ask for more cayenne pepper

446
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,199
Speaker 1: or do they say that, can they make their you know,

447
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: specify how they want their black eyed piece today, we

448
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:11,919
Speaker 1: give them.

449
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 4: The option to add that. So we have this cayne

450
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 4: pepper shakers on the tables so that people can add

451
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 4: their own cayenne pepper. And like I said, they don't

452
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Speaker 4: even it's not even. There was a time when you

453
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 4: would see the person shaking the cayne pepper and the

454
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 4: whole top of the containers just orange from the cayenne pepper.

455
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,479
Speaker 4: Nowadays they just take the top off and just just

456
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,360
Speaker 4: you know, don't out half the container and their food.

457
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Speaker 1: So what does that indicator a shortage of some sort

458
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Speaker 1: of vitamin or something. Putting on your naturopathic hat now

459
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Speaker 1: and taking off the chef's hat for a second.

460
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Speaker 4: M Well, I think it's probably because our taste buds

461
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 4: are so blown from so much stuff that we've consumed

462
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 4: that we end up needing something that has that kind

463
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 4: of heat and has that kind of stimulation on the

464
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Speaker 4: tongue to you know, to even wake us up, wake

465
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Speaker 4: our tongue on taste buds up. So it's a way

466
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 4: to wake our taste buds up. I've seen people put

467
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 4: caye pepper on every single piece of food on their plate.

468
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,360
Speaker 4: You know, they're sprinkling the cay and pepper all over everything.

469
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Speaker 4: And I think that's it. I think it's because it

470
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 4: enhances and stimulates, uh, the the eating experience to such

471
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 4: an extent that you know, people get more out of it.

472
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Speaker 1: Yeah, especially in the cold weather. At least you feel

473
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Speaker 1: warm for at least a minute or so you consume

474
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Speaker 1: that much pepper.

475
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Speaker 4: And it's funny you bring up the cool weather that's

476
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Speaker 4: or cold weather that they're people who will take their

477
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 4: beverage and put cay and pepper in it. Say, well,

478
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,360
Speaker 4: that's how, that's how cay and pepper kind peppers might

479
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 4: might be more traditional in our community than black eyed peas.

480
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Speaker 2: When doesn't help with metabolism, speed up your metabolism, will

481
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Speaker 2: help with weight loss?

482
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Speaker 5: Does?

483
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 4: They're definitely there are definitely nutritional benefits and biological benefits

484
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 4: to cayenne pepper. And you know that's the case because

485
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,199
Speaker 4: if you've ever happened to bite into one of your

486
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 4: multi vitamins or bite into you know, maybe some of

487
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 4: the other nutritional supplements that you're consuming kai kaiene pepper

488
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 4: is you know, a significant part of many other supplements

489
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 4: and also drugs that we take because it does accelerate

490
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 4: blood flow, and it does support you know, digestion, and

491
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 4: it does you know, so all of that is present

492
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 4: for sure, and it does you know, boost the the metabolism.

493
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 4: And of course it brings the heat too, you know. There,

494
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 4: kayene pepper wasn't just something that we ate. We would

495
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Speaker 4: my grandmother in the in the winter months, we would

496
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Speaker 4: put cayenne pepper in our shoes and we keep our

497
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Speaker 4: feet warm over the course of the day when we

498
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Speaker 4: had to walk to school.

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Speaker 1: Wow, things Kevin didn tell That's that's all about it.

500
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: In the classroom, fin know, I was imagining. Wait, I

501
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: was too, and your shoe, Wow, well you sures.

502
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 3: He just wasn't making sure you went to school on time.

503
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Speaker 4: No, No, I mean I know that there are people

504
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 4: who pick peppers, and I've had conversations with them when

505
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 4: they talk about when you pick there certain hot peppers.

506
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 4: If you pick them and happen to put them in

507
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 4: your pocket, oh your pocket will catch fire, not not literally,

508
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 4: but you'll be hot and it'll it'll burn your leg.

509
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: Things you learn on this morning program thirty minutes off

510
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: the top of our family, just waking up. Doctor Baruk's

511
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Speaker 1: I guess that he's a restaurant too. It's also an

512
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Speaker 1: atropathic doctor. Some of you in the DMV know I'm

513
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,919
Speaker 1: from an eLife restaurant. They're open to day and tomorrow.

514
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 1: By the way, if you have if you just want

515
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: to get you know, just have a meal prepared instead

516
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 1: have gone through the trouble of doing it yourself. The

517
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Speaker 1: traditional African American New Year's Eve meal black eyed peas

518
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Speaker 1: and greens of this is a place you need to go.

519
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: But doctor Brooke, what sort of greens because there are

520
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: all different kinds of greens that we have in our

521
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: community for our taste buds. What kind of greens do

522
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: you prepare or what should go alongside the black eyed

523
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: pas and the rice.

524
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Speaker 4: We do call of greens and they tend to be

525
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 4: the one that is most requested. But we also have

526
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 4: the kale greens today and well on tomorrow there will

527
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 4: be kale greens and collar greens that we have and

528
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 4: the difference that's the tradition.

529
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: The difference between both.

530
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Speaker 4: You know, kale greens higher and antioxidants for sure, but

531
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Speaker 4: have a different taste profile than collar greens. Some people

532
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 4: are enough, you know, I find that, you know, stepping

533
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 4: outside of our community, our fair or complexed brothers and

534
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 4: sisters out there don't don't vibe with collar greens unless

535
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 4: they season the way we season them. You know, when

536
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 4: they experience it with us, they're like, oh wow, I

537
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 4: have never or I don't typically eat calla greens because

538
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 4: I don't like the way they taste. And I don't

539
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 4: know whether that's because typically and our household, we're putting

540
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 4: meat in them, or we're seasoning them them in a

541
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 4: way that may be I don't know, unfavorable to them,

542
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 4: but I know that they speak about that a lot

543
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 4: when they come in and we'll say, would you like

544
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 4: some Colli greens? Do you have any other greens? Now,

545
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 4: we only have colla greens that they'll taste them and

546
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 4: they'll be amazed at the taste of them, and most

547
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 4: times choose them. But yeah, collar and kill greens are

548
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 4: the greens that we typically have for this day.

549
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: Well, tweinty it away from the top of a doctor.

550
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: All of this was this so cal quote unquote slave food.

551
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: Was this the food that our ancestors ate because he

552
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: was rejected from the colonizers, if you will, And this

553
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: is all it was given to our ancestors and we

554
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: made the best of it. Or is this something that

555
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: we just invented ourselves?

556
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 4: Ah? Wow, that's a good historical question. And I think

557
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 4: a lot of the food that we consume, like we

558
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 4: talked about the black eyed peas and the work that

559
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 4: had to be put into picking black eyed peas, I

560
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 4: think a lot of the specialty foods that we consumed

561
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 4: were foods that typically we were preparing or picking or

562
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 4: providing for some other person and you know that that

563
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 4: lived in the big house, and on these days we

564
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 4: would be we would be able to eat them ourselves.

565
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 4: And uh, it was. It became a tradition in our

566
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 4: community especially. You know, you go down south and you're

567
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 4: gonna get collar greens. You're going to get some beans.

568
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 4: You know. You every every day you come into our restaurant,

569
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 4: you you have to get you have to have beans

570
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 4: in our restaurant because that's what people come to expect.

571
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 4: I don't know whether that's the case and all the

572
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 4: other ethnic restaurants, but in ours, you got to have beans.

573
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 4: Black people want beans with their food beans and rice,

574
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 4: you know, as an option. And I don't think we

575
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 4: go that deep. I think I think it's the taste.

576
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 4: I think we want. It's tradition. The tradition is such

577
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 4: that in our community is they expect to go to

578
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 4: a black you know, we're roy of course soul food.

579
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 4: So you go to a soulful rest that you're expecting

580
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 4: to find some beans in there.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So look, black eyed peas represent the pennies, the

582
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 2: greens represent the dollars. And now let's talk about corn bread.

583
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 2: Corn Bread supposedly represents gold. So if you eat that together,

584
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 2: your new year and your purse will be full all

585
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 2: year long. So how do you how do you prepare

586
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 2: your going bread?

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00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 4: Well, cornbread we make and have been making for years

588
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 4: and be love. It is just everything that you would

589
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 4: typically put in cornbread without putting the butter or the margin,

590
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 4: you know, the the the butter in the corn bread.

591
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 4: So we've been doing that and we do that, you know,

592
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 4: every day we make I think it's about ten pans,

593
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 4: ten little trays of the cornbread muffins, which you know

594
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 4: as indicator that obviously our people want cornbread with their

595
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 4: food it's a great add on to you know, you

596
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 4: I mean, because it's a little sweet and it's a

597
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 4: little different texture of course them what you're eating. To

598
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 4: add a little corn bread with those greens and it

599
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 4: just takes it over the edge. But well, of course,

600
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 4: you know, corn flour and cork the corn meal and

601
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 4: where we put of course there's a little sweet there

602
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 4: in there too. I don't think it's much, but it's

603
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 4: enough to make people notice and they're like, whoa, this

604
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 4: is almost like you know, it's not like eating the cake,

605
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 4: which is good. It's not sugar like that, but there's

606
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 4: enough in it that makes people look forward to the

607
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 4: next bike.

608
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 2: Some corn bread tastes almost like cake, and then other

609
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 2: corn bread is real dare I say real cornish?

610
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 3: You know, kind of gritty like that. And I like

611
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 3: both kinds.

612
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 2: And is there a reason for those differences just because

613
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 2: people that like sweet want sweet corn bread.

614
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 4: I think it's depending on you know, what grandma made, right,

615
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 4: Whatever grandma made is what people become accustomed to. And

616
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,239
Speaker 4: I remember there was a corn bread that we used

617
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 4: to eat that was hard as a break, you know,

618
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 4: they had no fluffing.

619
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Speaker 5: It at all.

620
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 3: Yes, I remember that too.

621
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know that. At a point in time,

622
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 4: we had a restaurant that I was involved in many

623
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 4: years ago that we used to serve that corn bread

624
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 4: and people used to come from all over for that

625
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 4: hard corn bread. It was amazing, all right.

626
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: Oh, I felt right there, Fellows, we gotta step aside

627
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: and get caught up with the news for do that, though, Kevin,

628
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: one of the one of our early Rises Wake Up

629
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Speaker 1: Squad memberships, tell Kevin that ROBERTA. Flak was Richard Smallwood's

630
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Speaker 1: eighth grade music teacher, Donnie Haffay was his classmate, and

631
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Speaker 1: Angelau Wimbush was an original member of the Richard small

632
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Speaker 1: With Singers. So this morning, say they wanted you to

633
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: know that the Great small Yes, it made his transition

634
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: yesterday twenty three minutes away from the toil that foundlies.

635
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: I mentioned, we've got to step aside, get caught up

636
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: in the lady's news, trafficking weather in our different cities.

637
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: I guess this is doctor Barok. He got a question

638
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: about a hundred say fix it, as we say, fix

639
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: you your New Year's Eve or your New Year's Day meal.

640
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: This is a man you need to talk to. You

641
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: got any other questions about health though, anything about food.

642
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: Reach out to us at eight hundred four five zero

643
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Speaker 1: seventy eight seventy six. Y'll take your phone calls after

644
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: the news trafficking weather. That's next a grand Rising family.

645
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Speaker 1: Thanks for starting your Wednesday with us, the final hump

646
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: day of the year. It's New Year's Eve. It's seventeen

647
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Speaker 1: minutes away for the top. For now, I guess his

648
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Speaker 1: natural pathic doctor and restaurant tour doctor Barok. Before we

649
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: go back to doctor ru let me just Rund. You're

650
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: coming up later this morning. You're gonna hear from Professor Griff,

651
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: the former Minister of Information for Public Enemy. We're gonna

652
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: talk about with music and how to influence our young people.

653
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Speaker 1: Before we speak with Professor Griff though, with therapist that

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Speaker 1: doctor Jason Anthony is gonna share the sign for the

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Speaker 1: spotlight and some of the major emotional issues facing our youngsters.

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Speaker 1: And before we do all that, New York media analyst

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Speaker 1: Wayne Gilman and Reggie Thomas will be able to explain

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Speaker 1: how Donald Trump has changed the way the media reports

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Speaker 1: the news these days, in case you have you haven't

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Speaker 1: noticed it. And also tomorrow New Year's Day at grill

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Speaker 1: Professor James S. Wall starters off and also asked the

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Speaker 1: author an astro numerologist, brother Lloyd Strayhorn, will be here

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Speaker 1: those who want to figure out what the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: six holes for you, to make sure you're calling and

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Speaker 1: speak to Lloyd Strayhorn. It's going to be here tomorrow morning.

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Speaker 1: He's the legendary asked of numerologist. I should mentioned, so

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Speaker 1: he's going to be here tomorrow morning as well, and

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Speaker 1: right here as I mentioned in Baltimorerow on ten ten

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Speaker 1: WLB and also in the d m V on fourteen

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Speaker 1: fifteen w L. Doc June the break got a two

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Speaker 1: question for you too, to want you to know what

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Speaker 1: are the benefits of Please ask doctor Burke. Let me sweet,

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Speaker 1: do you ask were the benefits of rice water? And

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Speaker 1: to merrick water? Now I've heard of to a merk water.

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Speaker 1: I guess it's just water with American but rice water

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Speaker 1: help us out here, Doc Well.

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Speaker 4: Rice water typically was used when you find yourself with

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Speaker 4: the runs, you've got diarrhea. It will bind you back

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Speaker 4: up so that you're not running. And there are other

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Speaker 4: nutritional benefits to rice water, but that was one of

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Speaker 4: the ones that was noted in our family and that

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Speaker 4: I'm aware of. You know, typically with foods, there are

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Speaker 4: varying degrees of benefit across the board from you know,

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Speaker 4: there may be some level of psychological, biological, you know, neurological.

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Speaker 4: There are whole lot of benefits to different vitamins and

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Speaker 4: minerals that we consume, and specifically with regard to the

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Speaker 4: grains of rice, that was the one thing that we

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Speaker 4: we consume rice water. For turmeric water, I would suspect

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Speaker 4: that turmeric water would be something you take to reduce inflammation.

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Speaker 4: That along with adding a little bit of pepper, not

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Speaker 4: cayenne pepper, but actually black pepper to your turmeric to

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Speaker 4: get it to really activate and help to reduce the

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Speaker 4: inflammation in the body.

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Speaker 1: What if you.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, go ahead, well, and what if you add

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Speaker 2: honey to that to America water, doctor Barue, Doesn't that

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Speaker 2: help it go down easier?

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Speaker 4: To Americ water? Would yeah, honey would make a lot

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Speaker 4: of things go down easier. But yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And of course honey has its own nutritional benefits, not

702
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Speaker 4: something I consume, but has its own nutritional benefits as well,

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Speaker 4: a lot of them.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: They say something about honey that you can. You can

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Speaker 4: have honey, you know, be stored away for thousands of

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Speaker 4: years and still consume it, which is kind of interesting.

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Speaker 4: I think it's unique in that way.

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Speaker 3: Well, which is better? Isn't it? Like organic honey or

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Speaker 3: something that's better?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the organic. You know, I don't know how you

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Speaker 4: are able to identify honey as organic because you don't

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Speaker 4: know every bee, you know, you don't know what every

714
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Speaker 4: bee had it, you know, to eat that day. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: the organic, the healthier, the cleaner honeys. And there's so

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Speaker 4: many variations of honey nowadays, you know, I'd see people

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Speaker 4: are sunning ten to fifteen different types of honey with

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Speaker 4: flavor enhancement or either you know, just what the bees

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Speaker 4: that again produced that honey, what they were specifically pollinating

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Speaker 4: many times, will significantly enhance the flavor and the benefit

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Speaker 4: of that honey.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you, they said, I hate to be

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Speaker 1: grossery so early in the morning, But isn't honey bees vomit.

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Speaker 4: It is regurgitated by the bee. Yes it is. But

725
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Speaker 4: you know, obviously we're not that grossed out at stuff

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Speaker 4: by the car. Will we'll eat the waistsack of a

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Speaker 4: pig tomorrow, you know, there'll be a whole lot of

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Speaker 4: people that eat the waistsack of a pig, and we'll

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Speaker 4: consider tradition and get excited about that. So I don't

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Speaker 4: know that. I don't know that eat. I think once

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Speaker 4: you put it through the its processes, you know, people

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Speaker 4: disconnect the fact that yeah, this was this was you know,

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Speaker 4: to be thrown up in order to produce this, or

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Speaker 4: this is the waistsack of a pig. And I wouldn't

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Speaker 4: touch a pig, but you know, here it is, I'm

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Speaker 4: eating in his waistsack. You know, it's it's really interesting.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm glad you mentioned that because that is

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Speaker 1: so that's part of the tradition in our community.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Chitling's on New Year's, New Year's even New Year's Day,

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Speaker 1: just like if you mentioned the black eyed peas. Uh.

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Speaker 1: For folks who want to get away from that, doc.

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Speaker 1: What's the alternative.

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Speaker 4: As far as meat alternatives? You know you nowadays from

745
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Speaker 4: chick peas to soybeans too, mushrooms, jackfruit. Uh, there's so

746
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 4: many alternatives that you can have, and you know, jackfruit

747
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 4: and tofu in particular, they don't have much taste until

748
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Speaker 4: you flavor them, so you can flavor jackfruit to taste

749
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Speaker 4: like your chitlings, you know, tasted. So it's there are

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Speaker 4: alternatives and people are exploring more. You're looking up and

751
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Speaker 4: finding our people are very creative in the kitchen, and

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Speaker 4: we're doing some real good, especially somebody who's accustomed to

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Speaker 4: making it in the traditional way in America. Now when

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Speaker 4: they break off and decide they want to eat healthy,

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Speaker 4: or when they have a client or they want to

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Speaker 4: you know, just bring more attention to how this can

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Speaker 4: be consumed in a healthier or more natural way. You know,

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Speaker 4: people are able. That person is normally able to get

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Speaker 4: that taste again, taste profile, maybe a little better than

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Speaker 4: somebody who's just kind of going off the cuff and

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Speaker 4: never eat the original food in the first place. So

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Speaker 4: they're able to give us, you know, the right seasonings

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Speaker 4: in order to bring out the similar taste and texture

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Speaker 4: to what we're accustomed to.

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Speaker 1: How about tofo? Can you use tofa as a substitute?

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Speaker 4: Sure?

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Speaker 3: Tofu?

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Speaker 8: And now you've got tofu. They're using chickpeas for tofu.

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Speaker 8: I can't remember what the specific name is, but they're

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Speaker 8: using chickpeas in order to make that it's just the

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Speaker 8: curd on the top of the beans that is pressed

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Speaker 8: together and they put a thickener in it.

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Speaker 4: To cause it to congeal. But there is Yeah, there

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Speaker 4: are a number of the number of alternatives. Like I said,

775
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Speaker 4: the chickpeas. Chickpeas is really popular. You know, people are

776
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Speaker 4: finding a lot that can be done with chickpeas, and

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00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 4: of course mushrooms and all of the different mushrooms. You know,

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Speaker 4: mushrooms can be made to you can flavor them so

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Speaker 4: that they taste like chicken, also that they taste like seafood,

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Speaker 4: you know, so you can do a lot with mushrooms.

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Speaker 4: And of course they're in the shack fruit.

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Speaker 1: Let me jump me in nine away from the top

783
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Speaker 1: there with doctor Bo Doctor Breuk is how much are

784
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Speaker 1: they psychological? Because you know, I have just some friends

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Speaker 1: that we're eating having a vegetarian meal, but they didn't

786
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Speaker 1: know what's vegetarian meal and they ate it and once

787
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Speaker 1: they found out it was this is real, this is

788
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Speaker 1: ranking for you know, they they want to throw up,

789
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Speaker 1: but they enjoyed it while it was going down. How

790
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Speaker 1: much of this stuff is you know, changing the diet,

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Speaker 1: because I know many people are probably were not many people.

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Speaker 1: Some people are probably for a new Year's resolution, they

793
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Speaker 1: probably say they're going to start to you know, eat

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Speaker 1: healthy in twenty twenty six, how much of this is psychologically?

795
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Speaker 1: How did you get over that hump?

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, things that things that tend to be

797
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Speaker 4: healthier for you or better for you are typically not

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Speaker 4: identified as something that we eat in our community. Right,

799
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Speaker 4: So when you know, when you're eating a food, when

800
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Speaker 4: you're making the choice to eat a more healthy way,

801
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 4: you're you're going to find that. Yeah, there are some

802
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 4: people who who's like, no, no, no, that's that's not

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00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 4: how we eat. You know, I want I want the

804
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 4: real deal, you know, give me, give me some beans

805
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 4: with some ham in it. You know, I want some

806
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 4: neck bone in there. And even though the taste profile

807
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 4: will be similar or the saying that, there will be

808
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 4: people who just feel like, you know, almost like I

809
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 4: don't know, maybe they're selling out their their their culture

810
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 4: or their tradition by not consuming the real deal. And

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Speaker 4: you know that's a common request as well. Does it

812
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 4: taste like the real thing? You know? And you know,

813
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 4: I get the idea identifying chicken and what chicken tastes like.

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00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 4: And if we're going to prepare something and call it

815
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 4: something similar to chicken. People want to know where that

816
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 4: tastes like the real thing. And you know, I think

817
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 4: we're raised most of us are raised on the quote

818
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 4: unquote real thing. And the real thing is even the

819
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 4: expression itself, you know, qualifies a food at a higher

820
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 4: level than the alternative. You know, so many of our

821
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 4: people are caught up on the real thing. You know,

822
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 4: I want to I'd rather eat the real thing. I

823
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 4: want to eat real food, you know, but all food

824
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 4: is real food. You know, it's uh you know again,

825
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 4: how you prepare it and and yeah, and that that

826
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 4: makes the difference. So I think you can prepare some

827
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 4: probably some chicken pretty bad and you get you know

828
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 4: a lot of people disappointed with the taste. You can

829
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 4: do the same thing with tofood.

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Speaker 1: Did you do you coach folks as well at docor that,

831
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 1: you know, making that transition.

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00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 4: Yes, indeed, oh yeah, we support them. It's not that

833
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 4: easy for everybody, you know, to it's And we had

834
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Speaker 4: a client who I'm going to try to get through

835
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 4: it quickly. He he was he just loved chicken. Chicken

836
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 4: had to be a part of every one of his

837
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 4: meals and his condition that he ended up with was

838
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 4: tied right into what he had to have at every

839
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 4: one of his meals. He was trying to overcome something

840
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 4: that you know, in my inestimation, was brought off by

841
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 4: the consumption of the dead dead yardbirds. And it was

842
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 4: a conversation we had about, well, you know, you know,

843
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 4: there won't be any chicken in the next life. We

844
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 4: got you know what you mean, they ain't gonna have

845
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 4: chicken in heaven. And I said, no, brother, you think

846
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 4: they're gonna have slaughter houses in heaven. And he was

847
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 4: really turned, you know, back behind that he was he

848
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 4: was really concerned and like, man, I can't imagine life

849
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 4: without chicken, you know, the after life, the after life

850
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 4: without chicken. We don't want to die. I don't want

851
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 4: to die.

852
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 3: I want to go to heaven. Want to go to heaven.

853
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 3: I want to take.

854
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 9: Tell black folks.

855
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 4: Don't tell black folks that they ain't got chicken in heaven,

856
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 4: but they got it in hell.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, six minutes away from the top. That's a

858
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:03,240
Speaker 1: good line, Doc. You know, it's sure that was their comics,

859
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: But I guess that many of them meet meet anyway.

860
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: So excepting the moody Twins give that line of the

861
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 1: Mooney Twins. But anyway, Doc, what is is there any

862
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: for breakfast? Is there when we know the traditional New

863
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 1: Year's dinner? But is there any traditional New Year's breakfast

864
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Speaker 1: we should know about?

865
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Speaker 4: Oh? Well, hmm, now that that I don't I don't

866
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,720
Speaker 4: know of a traditional New Year's breakfast, but I wouldn't

867
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Speaker 4: be surprised. I will, uh, I'll check some of my sources,

868
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 4: you know, when when we when we step away for

869
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 4: a minute and see what I come up with. But

870
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 4: I'm sure there is a traditional and because tradition was

871
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 4: such a significant part of our life, you know, there's

872
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 4: just we did with grandma. Did you know? I have

873
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 4: a grandma did it? That's how we're going to do it.

874
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 4: And so I'm sure there is a significant, you know,

875
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 4: difference in what we do on the first day of

876
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 4: the year. For this is the first meal of the

877
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 4: first day of the year. So there is probably something

878
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 4: special that we used to do and probably still do

879
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 4: and don't necessarily know why we do it except that

880
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 4: it's what we've always done.

881
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 2: So can we talk about those who like to imbbe

882
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 2: you know they say champagne at New Year's Eve? And

883
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:22,280
Speaker 2: brings in prosperity as well. Do you have any recommendations

884
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 2: for maybe an alternative to.

885
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 4: That to champagne, Yes, sir, champagne.

886
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 3: Champagne is the alternative to champagne.

887
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 4: Champagne and the alternative you know, is there a healthier alternative?

888
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 4: Of course there is. You know you've got the apple,

889
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 4: you know, apple cider and that that might be the alternative.

890
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 4: But I think a sip of champagne, you know, a

891
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 4: glass of champagne once a year. I don't think that

892
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 4: kills us. It probably benefits us at some level. You know,

893
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 4: don't don't over indulge, but you don't do that with anything.

894
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 4: But yeah, I don't because champagne isn't necessarily a food

895
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 4: that is derived from animals. It's not one that I

896
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 4: know an alternative too, because I've never had to look

897
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,879
Speaker 4: for one, right, don't I don't necessarily focus on alternatives

898
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 4: to a wine or champagne.

899
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: All right, So we know what Kevin will be doing

900
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 1: later on this tonight three minutes away from the top.

901
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: They have family. I guess it is doctor Barok. You

902
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: wanted to join this conversation that Jay has got a

903
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 1: question for him, and we deal with Jay when we

904
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: get back. But we got to check the traffic and

905
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: weather in our different cities. You want to speak to

906
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: doctor Baruk reach out to us at eight hundred four

907
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: to five zero seventy eight seventy six and were ticket

908
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: calls after we check the traffic and weather in a

909
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: different cities. That's next and Grant Rising family, thanks for

910
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: starting your New Year's Eve with us and thank you

911
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: for making us part of your morning ritual. Two minutes

912
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 1: after Tom Now I'm on tell we're gonna speak with

913
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: Reggie Thomas and Wayne give them visa New York Media

914
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 1: and let's just talk about how the news is being

915
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 1: reported today. But right now we doctor Baruk Uh. Doctor

916
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 1: Brook is a naturopadic doctrice also a restaurant to in Washington, DC,

917
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: and Jane Detroit has a question for him online three

918
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 1: Grand rising Jay with doctor Baroke.

919
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 10: Grand rites, excuse me, grandwrising to you and grand rising

920
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 10: to my doctor doctor Baruk. My question would be related

921
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 10: to is there possibility h for doctor Barouche to initiate

922
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 10: a cookbook similar to some of the cuisine that he

923
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 10: offers his restaurants. I was in DMV a couple of

924
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 10: months ago, but I wasn't able to come through. But

925
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 10: I do have relatives that live in the area and

926
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Speaker 10: they give gone reviews of your food as they try

927
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 10: to engage in alternative cuisine. So that would be my

928
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 10: question and a quick comment on the traditional New Year's

929
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 10: Day breakfast. I know in the past when I used

930
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:06,280
Speaker 10: to who I was a carnivore and imbibed in the intoxicants,

931
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 10: probably was a lot of times we would stop at

932
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 10: one of those twenty for our breakfast places, and each

933
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 10: a traditional American dye cuisine, you know, sausage and eggs

934
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 10: and those type of things, and those that imbibe a

935
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 10: lot of them, one of the first things they're going

936
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 10: to take in the morning is alpha celsa to alleviate

937
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 10: their hangover effects. So that would be my comment related

938
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 10: to that. But yeah, because you know, people run the country.

939
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 10: You know, hear about doctor Baruch and all the great

940
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 10: information he gives us, and also you know the restaurant

941
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 10: he has and he conjure up a cookbook that would

942
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 10: help us, you know, have more variety and some of

943
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 10: the things. I really don't do too many restaurants anyway,

944
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 10: but try to do things at home. You know, make

945
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:07,959
Speaker 10: my own little concoctions and has x carnivor voracious kind

946
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 10: of or you know, like you say, Carl, it's a

947
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 10: lot of that is psychological. I still have trouble sometimes

948
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 10: talking to people or when they have gatherings and you know,

949
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 10: they got to have the traditional ham and turkey and

950
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 10: those type of things. So so that basically my question

951
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 10: and my comment, and thanks for having doctor Barruk on again.

952
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 4: I think, you know, depending on where you are, you're

953
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,399
Speaker 4: where you come from. I think if you're from down South,

954
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,720
Speaker 4: you're probably going to eat a very heavy meal today,

955
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 4: any one of those kind of meals where you you know,

956
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 4: you need to unbutton your pants before you get up

957
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 4: because you're just you're stuffed, and that I think that's

958
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 4: part of also the tradition that you know, you would

959
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 4: eat to the to your stuffed, you know, you can't move,

960
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 4: and that was that was part of the celebration. You know,

961
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 4: that was a good I don't know that that's so

962
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 4: good however, but those would be typical things that we

963
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 4: would consuming, right, the ham, the sausage, we consume, you know,

964
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 4: so much of the pig on this day it was, uh,

965
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 4: it's no wonder. You know, we don't we don't have

966
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 4: kill over and die. We have a lot of people

967
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 4: that are that are going to the hospital on the

968
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 4: first so you know, you look out for the emergency

969
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 4: rooms and you'll see a lot of people that have

970
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:31,399
Speaker 4: found themselves with food induced illnesses, over consumption being one

971
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 4: of the big issues, but also what we're consuming. So

972
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 4: and then because you know now that we've got this

973
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 4: new healthier lifestyle, you know in the minds of many,

974
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 4: then this would be a day for light food for them.

975
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 4: So you know, they might do more your fruit salads

976
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 4: and you know, your quenoi and and things that are

977
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 4: not so heavy on your stomach so that you can

978
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 4: still go and you know, run around Rock Creek Park

979
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 4: a couple of times and not you know, be so

980
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 4: over overloaded.

981
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a tweek question. This is one of our

982
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 1: woke up I guess Late Dawkins says the Happy New Year.

983
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,879
Speaker 1: Could you ask him should we soak the black eyed piece?

984
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: And how long should the black eyed peace be soaked?

985
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 7: Oh?

986
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think soaking them overnight is the tradition. You know,

987
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 4: we so we set them for soaked at the end

988
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 4: of the at the end of the work day and

989
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 4: they're ready to be prepared in the morning when we

990
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 4: come in, so let's say twelve hours. And I do

991
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 4: want to answer Jay's question about the cook but we

992
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 4: got three books we're supposed to be coming out with

993
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 4: this year and one of them is A cook Will

994
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 4: So we we we're hearing you. And even though I

995
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 4: know that you know now the world is a little different.

996
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 4: Most people go to the internet for their their cooking

997
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:51,479
Speaker 4: instructions and recipes that there's some of us is still

998
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 4: like opening up a book and following a recipe. So

999
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 4: we're going to be doing that.

1000
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: We can do both. That's yeah, I love it. That's

1001
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: a great thank you, doctor Bruce. Before we let you go, though,

1002
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: the restaurant's going to be open on a Year's day

1003
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: for folks who you know, just don't have the time

1004
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 1: prepare a meal. And almost said fixing it almost got

1005
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:12,959
Speaker 1: ebonically because you know, when it comes to our folks

1006
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: at this time of the year and the meal, preparing

1007
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 1: the meal and they don't have the time or just

1008
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: like to have someone do it like you yourself. Is

1009
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: your restaurant going to be open.

1010
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 4: Yes, the restaurant will be open tonight as well as tomorrow.

1011
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:27,959
Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, we got a New Year's

1012
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 4: Eve event taking place at the restaurant. But tomorrow we

1013
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 4: have we have our black eyed peas for sure. Black

1014
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 4: eyed peas, cornbread and collar greens will definitely be on

1015
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 4: the menu tomorrow. Come on through check us out where

1016
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 4: eLife Restaurant at nine zero three three Central Avenue, Capital Heights, Maryland,

1017
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,760
Speaker 4: and you can give us a call at three zero

1018
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 4: one three two four sixty nine hundred if you'd like

1019
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,399
Speaker 4: to find out any more information about what we do

1020
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 4: and how to find us.

1021
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 1: And event having tonight is that open to the public.

1022
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 1: Is at a private event.

1023
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 4: It is a It is an event that is open

1024
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 4: to the public.

1025
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: It's a New Year's event, so we can bring in

1026
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 1: the new year with you at the rest.

1027
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, we can bring in the new year. And I

1028
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 4: think part of bringing in the new year. I know

1029
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,439
Speaker 4: we're about to get off, but is this new Year's

1030
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 4: resolution that you spoke about earlier? And I just remind

1031
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 4: people that as opposed to doing a New Year's resolution,

1032
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 4: you know, we might consider doing a New week resolution

1033
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 4: because if you fall off of a new Year's resolution

1034
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 4: after you know, the first couple of days, you got

1035
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 4: three hundred and sixty summer days before you got to

1036
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 4: be back on it again. But if you do a

1037
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 4: new week resolution, you find okay, all right, if I

1038
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 4: fall off on Wednesday, I got to be back on

1039
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 4: in you know, four or five days, you know, I

1040
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 4: get back on it, and you can keep getting back

1041
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 4: on it until you stay on it, and then you

1042
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 4: ride through a whole week and you find that you

1043
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 4: can do multiple weeks and whatever your goals are, whether

1044
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 4: it be losing weight or having more energy, or defeating

1045
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 4: some of the needs that we have f find ourselves

1046
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 4: and found ourselves. And with regard to pharmaceutical drugs, you

1047
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 4: know you can you can put all that behind you.

1048
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: And let me just say to the other folks who

1049
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: are going to celebrate tonight, please don't go out there

1050
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 1: popping off caps. You know what I'm talking about. What

1051
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 1: goes up must come down. They said. Bullets may travels

1052
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: at least some do at three mile length, and bullets

1053
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,760
Speaker 1: don't have any eyes and not like the black eyed peas,

1054
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: So please refrain from doing that. Just think about, as

1055
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 1: I said, the bullets, that what goes up, it's got

1056
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 1: to come down. So if you want to, if you're

1057
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 1: in the DMV you want to celebrate the years you've

1058
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: go to doctor Brook's place in cap Heights. Doctor Baroke,

1059
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,280
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, thank you for sharing this information

1060
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: with us, and thank you for doing it all what

1061
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 1: you do for our community as well.

1062
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 4: Thank you, brother for having me on. Thank you, brother,

1063
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 4: Kevin Turk.

1064
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 1: All right, it's doctor Bruk from eLife Restaurant in Campbell

1065
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 1: Heights in the DMV and i'st our attention now to

1066
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 1: the media. Reggie Thomas's showing us. Wayne Gilman is going

1067
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: to be with us shortly. Wayne's over a w b

1068
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: L that's doing the news for them and he'll pop

1069
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,320
Speaker 1: in in between doing the news and this. But Reggie's

1070
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 1: with us. Grand Rising, Reggie Barry Ghani, welcome back to

1071
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 1: the program.

1072
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 6: Thank you, Grand Rising.

1073
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 7: To you.

1074
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: How you don't we're still learning, man. I learned so

1075
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 1: much this morning with with with doctor Baruk about food.

1076
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 1: It's incredible the stuff that we learned just listening to

1077
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 1: to other folks. You know, we don't know everything you know,

1078
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: we don't. You know, some people think they know everything,

1079
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 1: we don't. I have an open mind. That's what we

1080
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 1: try to tell people on this program, you've got to

1081
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 1: have an open mind. But let's talk about the media, Reggie, Uh.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trumps has changed the way that the news is

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Speaker 1: being reported. And we've seen intimidated, you know, the so

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Speaker 1: called legacy media and you know, threaten them with lawsuits.

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Speaker 1: And now we see what happened to sixty minutes. I

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Speaker 1: want to get your your thoughts on all this. The

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Speaker 1: changing way that the news is being reported in this country.

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Speaker 6: Well, it's you know, as we discussed earlier some time ago,

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Speaker 6: and in an environment like that, having lived in Russia,

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Speaker 6: so I've seen this before. The difference in this particular

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Speaker 6: kick situation is that the cadre of the chief executives,

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Speaker 6: friends who have big money, I mean considerable wealth, are

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Speaker 6: being cajoled into buying these media outlets. And then, of course,

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Speaker 6: because these outlets have to have approval through the SCC,

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Speaker 6: what ends up happening is that the chief executive gets

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Speaker 6: involved and and the deal is conservated by order of him.

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Speaker 6: So in the case the CBS, let's says it an

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Speaker 6: example of Ellison family purchased CBS Paramount from the Redstone

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Speaker 6: family Sharry Redstone, whose dad was summon the Redstone. They

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Speaker 6: turned around, Trump sued the guest CBS and then got

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Speaker 6: some money out of it, and then approved the deal

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Speaker 6: for the Ellison family and as a result, their people

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Speaker 6: lost their jobs are losing their jobs in the case

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Speaker 6: of Stephen Colbert.

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Speaker 5: Now that.

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Speaker 6: Now that the Ellison's own CBS through sky Dance talking

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Speaker 6: about Skydance, what's my man's name? Just with his name,

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Speaker 6: just to scape me in the in the evening news. Uh,

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Speaker 6: in this little long island anyway, you got these black

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Speaker 6: folks that are losing their jobs. And sixty minutes you

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Speaker 6: had a lot of people quit because they didn't like

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Speaker 6: to be told what news stories they could run. The

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Speaker 6: week before last, the story was supposed to go on

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Speaker 6: sixty minutes regarding the printins in El Salvador, and at

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Speaker 6: the last minute, the new CBS News president Barry White,

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Speaker 6: who I understand has no television news experience and no

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Speaker 6: newsroom experience, the pull the show, quote the segments, and

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Speaker 6: Sharon al Fonci, who was the person who produced and

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Speaker 6: executed that that segment, she she was beside us else

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Speaker 6: and sent out an email to all of her colleagues

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Speaker 6: letting them know that they had been had been had,

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Speaker 6: had had been had, and then it became like an

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Speaker 6: in a little bit of infighting regarding Barry Wie's pulling

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Speaker 6: up that segment. But that didn't come from her, that

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Speaker 6: came from that came from on top. And so this

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Speaker 6: is the type of thing that you're seeing, and as

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Speaker 6: we start to head towards what might be the midterm elections,

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Speaker 6: because I'm still I'm still a little concerned that that

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Speaker 6: might not happen. I'm not trying to be a conspiracy theorist,

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Speaker 6: but we've seen a lot lessen when you look at

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Speaker 6: the fact that during this last election, Jeff Bezels and

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Speaker 6: Rupert Murdoch with not let their news organizations Jeff Bezos

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Speaker 6: in the form of the Washington Post, Rupert Burdock with

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Speaker 6: the Wall Street Journal and New York Posts will not

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Speaker 6: let their editors give an endorsement for president. And they

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Speaker 6: both were going all three those organizations were gonna endorse

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Speaker 6: Kamala Harris. That's when you knew that we were in trouble.

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Speaker 1: I thought, right there, Reggie, we gotta step aside for

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Speaker 1: a few moments. And Wayne has joining us as well.

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Speaker 1: Wayne's doing the news over at WBLS this morning, we'll

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Speaker 1: find out if he's changed the way he reports the

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Speaker 1: news because of what was going on with Donald Trump family.

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? You too can join our conversation

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Speaker 1: with these two media executives. Reach out to us at

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Speaker 1: eight hundred four to five zero seventy eight seventy six

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Speaker 1: and we'll take your phone calls next and Grand Rising family,

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Speaker 1: thanks for starting your Wednesday with us, the final Hunt

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Speaker 1: day of twenty twenty five. We're talking about the media

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Speaker 1: with Reggie Thomas and Wayne Gillen, both media executive executives

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Speaker 1: out of New York. Wayne is actually doing the news

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Speaker 1: on the news desk this morning over at WBLS in

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Speaker 1: New York City. Wayne Grant Rising, Welcome to the program.

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Speaker 5: Grand Rising, new call and happy new year. Know all

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Speaker 5: YouTube Reggie and the conversation has really been hot so far.

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Speaker 1: So tell us have you changed the way you're reporting

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Speaker 1: the news these things?

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Speaker 5: In all? Honestly, I mean there are times when I

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Speaker 5: think about it because you know, when we started out,

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Speaker 5: you and I back in the day at WLIB, you know,

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Speaker 5: we were more reporter advocate. You know, we would tell

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Speaker 5: a story, but there was always a spin that was

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Speaker 5: in the interest of the community. And I'm not saying

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Speaker 5: that we've waved away from that necessarily because particularly here

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Speaker 5: at WBLS, there's a rich history of what they've done here,

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Speaker 5: but over the years. I mean, if you work in

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Speaker 5: other markets and other stations, you know, well, I believe

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Speaker 5: as long as you're telling the truth, then that should

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Speaker 5: be the standard. You know, if you're stretching the truth

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Speaker 5: or your your inserting things that may be of us.

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Speaker 5: There's a lot of that going on social media and

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Speaker 5: stuff like that. You really don't know who's actually sitting

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Speaker 5: You aren't as opposed to telling what's going on. And

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Speaker 5: I mean I look at Fox Media for instance. I

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Speaker 5: know a lot of people beat up on them, but

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Speaker 5: there are others in the marketplace pursuing the same order.

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Speaker 5: And the deal is those people are if you don't

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Speaker 5: read between the lines and fact check, you will get

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Speaker 5: the impression that their are part of the story, depending

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Speaker 5: upon how many eyeballs watch is honest when you juxtapose

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Speaker 5: that with an msn ms now what used to be

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Speaker 5: MSNBC and other stations like that. And it's true what

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Speaker 5: Reggie was saying earlier, legacy media is undergoing such a

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Speaker 5: blood bath. Yes, and ABC has been able to uh

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Speaker 5: even though they officially like the defamation laws to ABC

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Speaker 5: was under a lot of static when they tried to

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Speaker 5: spend Jimmy Kimmel. So you know, anything is possible.

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Speaker 1: In twenty three at the top there with Reggie Thomas

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Speaker 1: and Wayne Gilman and Wayne's got to get back to

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Speaker 1: reporting the news on WBO, let's just morning. So a

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Speaker 1: question for you, Wayne, is it because there's a lack

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Speaker 1: of journalists. When we started, you know, people were journalists.

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Speaker 1: This is what we did. Right now, there's a dearth

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Speaker 1: of people journalists. They describe themselves as news personalities so

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Speaker 1: that you don't hold them to the same canons that

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Speaker 1: we do in our profession. That's that's what's going on

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Speaker 1: because usually now even in radio, all you do, you

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Speaker 1: don't really do the news like what we did a

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Speaker 1: comprehensive news report and we did the news those days.

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Speaker 1: Now you're just reading basically headlines. Is that the difference

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Speaker 1: in what we're seeing here?

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Speaker 5: Well, I would say, you know, everything has the whole

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Speaker 5: industry has changed. I mean compared to what I used

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Speaker 5: to do here when I ran a news departments for

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Speaker 5: both stations, is radically changed. I mean it's a slippet

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Speaker 5: of news. I mean you try to get out as

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Speaker 5: much information and I can't really use you know, WBLS

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Speaker 5: as the example because it's always been a music powerhouse.

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Speaker 5: BLS has been known for that the years decade. You know,

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Speaker 5: they just celebrated fifty years a year ago. But when

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Speaker 5: it comes to news and information, you know, everybody's like narrowcasting.

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Speaker 5: It's either you go to an all news stations and

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Speaker 5: if you're looking for information from you know that would

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Speaker 5: basically benefit communities of color, get to the stations like

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Speaker 5: you know, w O Wall what we' are now and

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Speaker 5: others like it in the metropolitan areas of the nation,

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Speaker 5: and they are on the fire because the FDC is

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Speaker 5: trying to challenge a lot of the licenses. You know,

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Speaker 5: Trump has made no excuse about his feelings about NPR

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Speaker 5: public broadcasting. And I'm not gonna go as far as

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Speaker 5: saying that I don't think there'll be twenty twenty six elections,

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Speaker 5: but God help us if we don't have that, I

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Speaker 5: think things are just going to get progressively worse because

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Speaker 5: if I see it, they want to change the culture.

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Speaker 5: It's not like what it used to be and it will.

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Speaker 5: And the thing is the one thing that's happened in

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Speaker 5: the last year, we've seen tremendous pushback. You know the

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Speaker 5: DEI for instance, that was the first thing that was

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Speaker 5: on the chopping block. You know, thousands lost their jobs.

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Speaker 5: I was affected by it because on the Spy I

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Speaker 5: do another business, real estate, and I had some very

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Speaker 5: well fed federal employees living in one of my units

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Speaker 5: and they one had to transfer back to DC and

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Speaker 5: another person wanted to be to hold the apartment and

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Speaker 5: then they were eventually fired. So I mean, indirectly, everything

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Speaker 5: gets affected, and you know, it goes on and on.

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Speaker 5: And I thank god that you saw on weekends these

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Speaker 5: anti king demonstrations because of all the DOGE cuts and

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Speaker 5: with what's going on with immigration. I mean, this has

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Speaker 5: been a heck of a year and I welcome thought that.

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Speaker 1: Let me bring in what you said was everything you

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Speaker 1: said is probably is true and arguable for some people.

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Speaker 1: But Reggie Wayne, he's talking about all this. Did this

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Speaker 1: all start when the FCC decided that the news stations

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Speaker 1: didn't have to have a news department, didn't have to

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Speaker 1: do new that they were free to do whatever there

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Speaker 1: was and the first, you know, the first thing they did,

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Speaker 1: they chopped all the news departments. But back the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, you had to do a certain amount

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Speaker 1: of news, a certain amount of public service, and you

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Speaker 1: had to document that on the monthly in the monthly

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Speaker 1: report that you did for the FCC for your files.

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Speaker 1: Do this the decline in news, and it's hurt the

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Speaker 1: black stations, you know, more than more than anyone, because

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Speaker 1: we don't have the news outlets that the other folks have.

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Speaker 1: Was that was at the start of it. When did

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Speaker 1: the FCC decided that the radio station is no longer

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Speaker 1: required to do news or public service?

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Speaker 6: Well, so here's my here's my feeling on that. I've

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Speaker 6: worked in both black as well as non black radio

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Speaker 6: and in a number of formats. I always felt that

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Speaker 6: black people were given a smaller snippet of the news.

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Speaker 6: The stations that were typically owned by white broadcasters never

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Speaker 6: really felt that black people really had to have a

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Speaker 6: lot of news. But now when you have the types

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Speaker 6: of executives and administration that we have in Washington today,

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Speaker 6: they don't want you to have the news because one

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Speaker 6: of the things you got to see is that all

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Speaker 6: the different distructions so when you see all of these

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Speaker 6: different distractions, one of the things that they're trying to

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Speaker 6: distract you from is from the real news that's going

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Speaker 6: on that's going to affect your life. They've got all

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Speaker 6: these other things going on, So you've got a sink

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Speaker 6: event in the SEC who are threatened that they were

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Speaker 6: going to take ABC's license if they don't fire Jimmy Kimmel.

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Speaker 6: They did the same thing with CBS. The person's name

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Speaker 6: that I was trying to remember earlier was Maurice Dubois.

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Speaker 6: Maurice is a long time New York journalists and as

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Speaker 6: a result of the change, the CBS will not be

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Speaker 6: there after Monday, if I'm not mistaken, if he's not

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Speaker 6: there already, because I think Tony Dacoppo takes over on

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Speaker 6: Monday during the CBS Evening News as an example. But

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Speaker 6: this was all part of the Herodage Foundations Project twenty

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Speaker 6: twenty five that it was to change the way media

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Speaker 6: is distributed and disseminated and the way the news is

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Speaker 6: disseminated in this country. And like I said, I've seen

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Speaker 6: this before, and I came in at a time in

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Speaker 6: Russia when they were going to a more capitalist society,

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Speaker 6: but there was still state owned television and state OWNEDDEO,

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Speaker 6: and I always felt as though my staff had to

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Speaker 6: be very very careful on how they reported the news

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Speaker 6: on our station in Moscow, in Saint Petersburg and those

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Speaker 6: states were very very important to me because I didn't

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Speaker 6: want our stations to lose their licenses.

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Speaker 1: Yeah and all, I thought right there, thirty minutes after

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Speaker 1: the top of a Reggie Thomas went Gilmen and media

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Speaker 1: executive from New York City discussing and listeners, if you've

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Speaker 1: figured out the news is being reported differently, please let

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Speaker 1: us know because it has been a big change in.

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Speaker 1: One of the missing things that we don't hear anymore

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Speaker 1: is editorials. You know, we talked about even sixty minutes

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Speaker 1: used to have in the editorial. Was Andy Rooney or

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Speaker 1: something like that used to do that. We used to

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Speaker 1: do editorials when we were you know, if David did

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Speaker 1: the news, the editorials that seems missing. Do you think

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Speaker 1: people are afraid to really express their views, you know,

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Speaker 1: doing editorials in the news media these.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, it's funny you should bring that up

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Speaker 5: because back in the day, whenever those editorials ran, it

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Speaker 5: was always a disclaimer at the end or at the beginning,

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Speaker 5: this is the opinion. All that does not reflect goon

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Speaker 5: ands go for it, you know, depending upon what operation

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Speaker 5: you're working for. But today you're absolutely right. You know,

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Speaker 5: I think some people feel that it's like wasting airtime.

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Speaker 5: People are going to make up their own opinion regardless

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Speaker 5: of what goes on. But I also think as part

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Speaker 5: of this campaign has Regie pointed out to change the

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Speaker 5: culture how we receive things. You know, we're on the

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Speaker 5: precipice of AI and everybody, regardless of what level of

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Speaker 5: employment you're in, has to be concerned about the impact

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Speaker 5: that's going to have. There are a lot of positive

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Speaker 5: things that could come out of it. Hopefully that may

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Speaker 5: lead to a cure to cancer one day. But with

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Speaker 5: respect to employment, you know, the union the bag after

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Speaker 5: they've been pushing back because you have machines now that

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Speaker 5: could perform music or or voice track and and things

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Speaker 5: by things that you know that you know a lot

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Speaker 5: of people study their craft to practice and learned and

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Speaker 5: to be competitive effectively.

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Speaker 1: And Wayne hold on thought that do you think but

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Speaker 1: do you think the average listener And there's the difference

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Speaker 1: between a program, a show that's this voice track and

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Speaker 1: including the news of weather, the traffic and all that.

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Speaker 1: Than when the live announcers behind the microphone, do you

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Speaker 1: think you know to be honest, to.

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Speaker 5: Be honest in all honesty. I mean, the thing is,

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Speaker 5: I haven't seen many examples, but I've seen the music

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Speaker 5: where you know, I thought it was a human and

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Speaker 5: it turned out to be you know, from AI inventions,

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Speaker 5: and and I'm not And and the thing is that

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Speaker 5: can go with respect to acting anything, because there's the possibilityless,

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Speaker 5: you know, when it comes to that. And that's and

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Speaker 5: and that does not mean you know that it's targeting

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Speaker 5: one particular community. It's global. It could be anybody, you know.

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Speaker 5: And and at the end of the day, I can't

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Speaker 5: think of one employer I've ever worked for in this

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Speaker 5: business and outside the business who is not concerned about

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Speaker 5: the bottom line, you know. And if they can save

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Speaker 5: money by bringing in some machines that sounds like you

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Speaker 5: or I or or the Bordtech here or what have you.

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Speaker 5: You know, that's that's you know, the end, as far

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Speaker 5: as I'm concerned. And you know, I don't think Congress

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Speaker 5: is really taking the time to examine the impact and

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Speaker 5: that's going to happen because we're already losing jobs, you know,

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Speaker 5: as Richard.

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Speaker 1: As the industry caught up with a new technology, though,

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Speaker 1: is exactly issue the industry, you know.

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Speaker 5: No, I I'm not sure if the industry is caught up,

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Speaker 5: but I know somebody in the think tank upstairs where

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Speaker 5: the beings are being counted, they are are aware of

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Speaker 5: what's going on. And it's about saving you know, as

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Speaker 5: you said at the very beginning, when you and I

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Speaker 5: started out, we had to do news at the top

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Speaker 5: of the bottom of the house five minutes. You know,

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Speaker 5: there was a time that that you know, it was

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Speaker 5: highly regulated. You know, if you missed something or if

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Speaker 5: there was misintimation there was there would be a problem.

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Speaker 5: I'll never forget, and I hate to bring this up

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Speaker 5: as an example, but around the time the Sammy Davis

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Speaker 5: Junior died, this is an importance to black radio. The

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Speaker 5: time that Sammy Davis Junior died, I was on the air,

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Speaker 5: and this is at w l I B m BLIS

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Speaker 5: back in the day, and because of connections that we

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Speaker 5: had in our community, I spoke to his mother and

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Speaker 5: I knew he was dead, and I had a guy

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Speaker 5: at a neighboring station and competitive station, all these stations

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Speaker 5: falled me up and said, why are you saying that

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Speaker 5: he's dead when I have a guy outside his house

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Speaker 5: and they say he's a line, you know. And this

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Speaker 5: went on back and forth to the house. And then

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Speaker 5: eventually because I had contact with his publishers and his

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Speaker 5: mother and I knew he had passed, I had no

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Speaker 5: reason this. You know, I'm not to say that I

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Speaker 5: got out any glee out of it, but I'm just

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Speaker 5: saying information like that, sources that we have. You know,

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Speaker 5: you don't see that much of that today, you know,

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Speaker 5: And you know, and I think that's the importance of

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Speaker 5: what it is that you and I, you know, came

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Speaker 5: up under. You know that we had relationships, even with criminals.

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Speaker 5: I had a guy come to me one morning committing

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Speaker 5: murder and he wanted us surrender at w IB back then.

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Speaker 5: You know. You know, it's just it's fascinating how much

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Speaker 5: has changed and yet some things have not changed. You know.

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Speaker 1: You know, let me jump in here, because we can

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Speaker 1: find a break. I know we're gonna let you go.

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Speaker 1: But I remember the days of the l I B

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Speaker 1: with a Black Liberation Army when they wanted to talk

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Speaker 1: to the public that they come to our station one

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Speaker 1: hundred and twenty six and Lennox and leave leave a

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Speaker 1: message there. And I you know, Walter Concred reported on

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Speaker 1: the news evening News thought her in a black radio

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01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:36,799
Speaker 1: station in Harlem, the Black Liberation Armies left the community

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Speaker 1: k and he read whatever they wanted to say because

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01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 1: they know they knew they could trust us. They weren't

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Speaker 1: going to go downtown to the other stations. They know

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01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 1: they could come in hard let me and just leave

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01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 1: that message where they wanted to get to the black

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Speaker 1: community and they will be reported. And it was without

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Speaker 1: editorial comment, without any cutting down to exactly what they

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Speaker 1: wanted to say. That was. That was one of the

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Speaker 1: things that you know, that's when when I went to

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Speaker 1: try to have the same effect that our community could

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Speaker 1: trust us with the news. That's how we broke the

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Speaker 1: story of the dumping drugs into our community. But look, Wayne, right,

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Speaker 1: we gotta let you go because I know you got

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01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 1: to go back and do the news.

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Speaker 5: Yeah over here, but times we've been scheduled at the

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Speaker 5: same time. But I didn't want to miss it. And

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Speaker 5: thank you, Happy holidays to everybody, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, Wayne, we'll talk to you later, and Reggie's going

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01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:29,960
Speaker 1: to stay with us and talking to her. Tell us,

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01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 1: explain to us what's going on here, because he did.

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01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 1: He worked in the media industry in Russia and in

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01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 1: the United States, and what he sees, you know, what

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01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 1: sees the trend? What's taking place? Family? You got questions

1425
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 1: for for Reggie Thomas, reach out to us at eight

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Speaker 1: hundred and four or five zero seventy eight seventy six

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Speaker 1: and well ticket phone calls next and Grand Rising family,

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01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 1: thanks stunning your Wednesday with us seventeen minutes away from

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Speaker 1: the top of the hour. Abari Gani and that means

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01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 1: what's the news, what's going on? What's happening? And your

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01:18:57,320 --> 01:19:00,679
Speaker 1: response is comba on this sixth day of of Quanta.

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Speaker 1: That means creativity. I guess this, Reggie Thomas rac is

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Speaker 1: music media analysts, I should say, and let me do this.

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01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 1: I asked the family, what do you think was the

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Speaker 1: most important news item news story that you saw this

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Speaker 1: year twenty twenty five? And they ready discuss it with

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01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 1: you again. Just call us up and tell us what

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01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 1: do you think was the most important news story of

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01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 1: this year twenty twenty five? Before we do that though,

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Speaker 1: let me just remind you coming up late this morning,

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01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 1: we're going to speak with Professor griff is going to

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01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 1: be here. It's going to form use of information for

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01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:35,599
Speaker 1: the public enemy and he's going to be here before

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01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 1: we talked to him that We're gonna speak with therapist

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01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:40,439
Speaker 1: doctor Jason Anthony. He's going to shine the spotlight on

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01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 1: some of the major emotional issues of facing our young

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01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 1: people and GRILL Professor James Small will be here tomorrow

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01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:48,880
Speaker 1: in New Year's Day as author and astro numologists numerologist

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01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 1: Lord Strayhorn will be here. So if you were concerned

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01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 1: or have you know a query about what life's going

1451
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 1: to be for you for twenty twenty six, make sure

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01:19:56,840 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 1: you speak to esther numerologist Lloyd Straehorn's gonna be here

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01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:03,680
Speaker 1: tomorrow morning and we'll be right here in Baltimore on

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Speaker 1: ten ten WLB and also in the DMV on fourteen

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Speaker 1: fifty WL Regerie for wile the breakout And ask you what,

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Speaker 1: because you've worked in both you know, stateside and in

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Speaker 1: Russia where everything is controlled, what's what's the difference as

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Speaker 1: far as getting the information out to people?

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, when you.

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Speaker 6: Work in an environment where the state has some let's

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Speaker 6: put it this way, in that environment, when I was

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Speaker 6: said you just had to be careful, I don't recall

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Speaker 6: anybody ever saying that. You know, we couldn't say this,

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Speaker 6: so we couldn't say that, but you just knew to

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Speaker 6: be careful. It's just like when you grew up in

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Speaker 6: your parents' house. You know that there's certain things that

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Speaker 6: aren't tolerated. That's kind of like what the situation was

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Speaker 6: like there. We're going through a metamorphosis here where sometimes

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Speaker 6: when I went to CBS stations, I can hear because

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Speaker 6: my ears are trained for it. I can tell when

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Speaker 6: they are trying to make a really hard news story

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Speaker 6: about the president or something that has been done by

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Speaker 6: his administration soft. As an example, a few weeks ago

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Speaker 6: of the there was something to the effect of.

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Speaker 4: I think we had one.

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Speaker 6: Hundred thousand people that were affected by the loss of

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Speaker 6: jobs in one example, and the news reader stated in

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Speaker 6: terms of hundreds.

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Speaker 11: And and and it was so.

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Speaker 6: It was mind blowing to me because I said, now,

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Speaker 6: you know, and I know that these numbers were much

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Speaker 6: more higher, but you know, let's go back a little

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Speaker 6: bit when we had COVID. There were states that were

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Speaker 6: controlling the news inside their own states in terms of

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Speaker 6: deciding what numbers they wanted to read regarding COVID deaths,

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Speaker 6: COVID sicknesses or illnesses, how many people entered the hospital.

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Speaker 6: There were places that completely blocked the television stations from

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Speaker 6: reporting that information. So now that we've got the chief

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Speaker 6: executive in office now and the SCC folks that he

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Speaker 6: has in place, and the people in the DALD, all

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Speaker 6: of this stuff now is trying to coagulate where these

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Speaker 6: stations like CBS and ABC, uh NBC to a lesser

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Speaker 6: degree uh MS now being that it's not part of

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Speaker 6: uh NBC anymore. You still see the people like Lawrence

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Speaker 6: o'donald and I guess Ari Melbourne, Jensaki, who are delivering

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Speaker 6: the news in a and in the in the manner

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Speaker 6: that we well, let me hear you.

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Speaker 1: Up here and ask you, so are ay delivering the news?

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Speaker 1: Though you know in Europe they give them different They

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Speaker 1: call them presenters because they're just reading somebody else writes

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Speaker 1: for them. I'm not sure what the setup is here,

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Speaker 1: but if you go to Europe and you tell them

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Speaker 1: what you do, they always introduced me as a presenter,

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01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:55,759
Speaker 1: a news presenter. But because they their system is different.

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01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 1: Is that the issue here? Because do we know who

1506
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:02,480
Speaker 1: they're saying it or or they're being they're being instructed

1507
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 1: by somebody telling them how to do hound to present

1508
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:06,519
Speaker 1: the news, what to say.

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01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 6: Do we know, well, then you know their their news.

1510
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:13,240
Speaker 1: Let me just follow up on that one, because we

1511
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:16,559
Speaker 1: know some of them, we're a different political preseration. Before

1512
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:19,480
Speaker 1: they joined, they switch networks. Some of them were Conservatives

1513
01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:21,719
Speaker 1: and they switch networks. Then they all of a sudden,

1514
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 1: their their their view of the information changes to fit

1515
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:27,880
Speaker 1: the company that they're working for now.

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01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 7: But go ahead, No, the the teams.

1517
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 6: Like like Rachel Mondolf's team and Lawrence o'donald's team, those

1518
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:41,280
Speaker 6: guys have their producers, they have their writers, they go

1519
01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 6: through what it is they want to say. There are

1520
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:51,160
Speaker 6: I'm sure there's inputs from their from their news directors

1521
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:57,560
Speaker 6: and the president. But a station like ms NOW and

1522
01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:02,400
Speaker 6: even under MSNBC, well, you know what, I have a

1523
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 6: little question when it was under MSNBC because if you remember,

1524
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:11,800
Speaker 6: Joy Reid got you know Outstid from there, and I

1525
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:18,600
Speaker 6: really believe that that was done as a favor to

1526
01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 6: the chief executive because she as a black woman, it

1527
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:32,080
Speaker 6: was intolerable for her to say and think the things

1528
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 6: that she wanted to be able to present to the audience.

1529
01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 6: Now in the case, and we had this discussion another

1530
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 6: time about Jimmy Kimmel. You asked me the question, well,

1531
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 6: how come Jimmy Kimble didn't you know, get outsted quite

1532
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 6: like that? And the reason is because Disney saw that

1533
01:25:56,640 --> 01:26:01,479
Speaker 6: Jimmy Kimble's ouster would mean a loss of dollars in

1534
01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 6: a lot of other areas. The Disney parks, uh uh,

1535
01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:13,719
Speaker 6: Disney plucks. They lost they when when it was announced

1536
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 6: that that that Jimmy Kimmel was going was suspended indefinitely.

1537
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 6: There are three million subscribers. That's a whole lot of money.

1538
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:30,759
Speaker 6: They each subscriber wasn't paying a dollar, They were paying

1539
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:36,240
Speaker 6: a sizeable amount of money. Joy didn't have that type

1540
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:42,200
Speaker 6: of of of encasement. You know, he was there, you know,

1541
01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:45,920
Speaker 6: as a as a news journalist.

1542
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:48,160
Speaker 4: But it didn't affect.

1543
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 6: Because m NBC doesn't have a lot of other assets.

1544
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 7: Uh, I get that.

1545
01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you this question, though, Reggie and eight

1546
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 1: minutes away, the tough Reggie Thomas is a news analyst

1547
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:04,439
Speaker 1: based in New York City's worked in Russians, worked in

1548
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:07,560
Speaker 1: state side in the business. Dave Chappelle, he's not on

1549
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:10,400
Speaker 1: a channel, but Dave Chappelle takes no prisons when he

1550
01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 1: comes to speak in his mind about what's going on

1551
01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 1: in the world today.

1552
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 3: Do you know it?

1553
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:18,680
Speaker 1: Well, the question for you if he was associated with

1554
01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:20,680
Speaker 1: one of these channels that had a program that was

1555
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:22,240
Speaker 1: regularly on these pounds, do you think they would have

1556
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:23,479
Speaker 1: moved to silence him?

1557
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 4: Uh?

1558
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:35,560
Speaker 6: You know what, It's possible because Dave Chappelle doesn't affect.

1559
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:37,719
Speaker 12: The stock market and someone stocked.

1560
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:44,120
Speaker 6: I saw his Assoldiates special the other day, And you're right.

1561
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:47,360
Speaker 6: He has to take no prisoner's mentality. But that's because

1562
01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:50,560
Speaker 6: he's got a lot of his own money and he

1563
01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:56,200
Speaker 6: can do like Rosie O'Donnell and Ellen Degenerates and some

1564
01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 6: of these other people where he doesn't like it. He

1565
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:01,960
Speaker 6: practice familia and moved to another country and still have

1566
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 6: a megaphone, still have a megaphone. Uh, Jimmy Kimmel, They

1567
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:12,120
Speaker 6: they got to play that one a little bit different.

1568
01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:16,880
Speaker 6: And that's and that's the same thing with U with

1569
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:21,599
Speaker 6: Stephen Colbert, Stephen Colbert does not work for a company

1570
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 6: that has tentacles across the globe in the way that

1571
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:31,320
Speaker 6: Disney does. You know, Disney is one of the the

1572
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:37,960
Speaker 6: first and the second largest employer in Florida. It's a

1573
01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:43,640
Speaker 6: large employee in California. They own ESPN, they own you know,

1574
01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 6: the Disney parks in other countries, they own the media,

1575
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:52,880
Speaker 6: their Disney plus I don't know if they if they

1576
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 6: still ever had a hand in Hulu. I tend to

1577
01:28:56,360 --> 01:29:00,599
Speaker 6: think that they did at one point. Uh, but I'm

1578
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:03,120
Speaker 6: not sure about that. But there's a lot of tentacles

1579
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 6: that come out of Disney. You got their products, you know. Listen,

1580
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:16,160
Speaker 6: the largest toy manufacturer distributor of toys in this country

1581
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 6: is McDonald's and that's because of their relationship with Disney.

1582
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:28,720
Speaker 6: When they come out with a new toy, usually it's

1583
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:33,120
Speaker 6: a Disney product that they're coming out when you see

1584
01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:36,920
Speaker 6: it in all the happy Meals. I worked for Disney

1585
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:39,240
Speaker 6: many years ago, and we would have to go to

1586
01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:43,960
Speaker 6: these some of us and they would fly us to

1587
01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:48,080
Speaker 6: Anaheim or we'd be in New Yorker and they would

1588
01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:52,040
Speaker 6: teach us. They would bring in these big experts to

1589
01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:57,599
Speaker 6: teach you how to how to sell Disney and all

1590
01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:00,360
Speaker 6: of the assets that they had, and why it's so

1591
01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:04,960
Speaker 6: important to this globe, why it's so important to the

1592
01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 6: global environment. And the thing is is that one of

1593
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:11,879
Speaker 6: the things that I learned was their their their foreway

1594
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:17,800
Speaker 6: into toys, uh because of McDonald's and the happy meals

1595
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:19,960
Speaker 6: and the different products. So they when they bring out

1596
01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:24,320
Speaker 6: a new movie, they bring out a toy at McDonald's

1597
01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:29,080
Speaker 6: usually that that uh, that supports that that movie.

1598
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:34,080
Speaker 1: We're looking on it from the outside of five away

1599
01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:35,960
Speaker 1: from the top of Aura. I think that's a good

1600
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:39,640
Speaker 1: business deal. I mean, those cross promotions, you know, it

1601
01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:43,320
Speaker 1: seems to be a good business deal for for those companies.

1602
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:47,360
Speaker 1: But back to where you were in Russia, the difference,

1603
01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:50,080
Speaker 1: what was the main difference that you saw how news

1604
01:30:50,240 --> 01:30:51,960
Speaker 1: was presenting them and how it's presented here.

1605
01:30:54,439 --> 01:30:57,160
Speaker 6: Well, you know, it's like I said, I went in

1606
01:30:57,280 --> 01:31:03,280
Speaker 6: at a time when the environment was changing. Now after

1607
01:31:03,479 --> 01:31:10,799
Speaker 6: I left, it's when Putin became the head of Russia,

1608
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:15,280
Speaker 6: big president of Russia, and then and then things reverted

1609
01:31:15,360 --> 01:31:18,759
Speaker 6: back very quickly. And when you look, he's been in office,

1610
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:23,640
Speaker 6: what thirty five years something ridiculous like that. That was

1611
01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:28,440
Speaker 6: because he was a much younger man when we presented

1612
01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:32,680
Speaker 6: the news. Uh, it was pretty much what you hear

1613
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:35,840
Speaker 6: on a on a like if you like, if you

1614
01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:39,360
Speaker 6: were listening to a b LS or you know, uh

1615
01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:45,200
Speaker 6: w h u R in Washington or or one of

1616
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:47,720
Speaker 6: the other stations in the DC area, not like w

1617
01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:52,519
Speaker 6: t OP or News Radio eighty eight. But you you

1618
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:54,040
Speaker 6: you got a snippet of it.

1619
01:31:55,320 --> 01:31:59,080
Speaker 1: There was, though, Reggie hold, I thought, right, check the

1620
01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:01,559
Speaker 1: trafficking weathers news. Were gonna check the traffic weather different

1621
01:32:01,560 --> 01:32:03,360
Speaker 1: seas when we come back, though, I want to know

1622
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:05,760
Speaker 1: if did they report a lot of news about what's

1623
01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 1: going on in the United States or the news they

1624
01:32:08,439 --> 01:32:11,280
Speaker 1: reported was it propaganda or was it just local news?

1625
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:14,880
Speaker 1: What's going on in these in the in Russia itself?

1626
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:16,880
Speaker 1: That's my question. I'll let you respond when we get

1627
01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:19,000
Speaker 1: back three minutes away from the top. They are family.

1628
01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:21,439
Speaker 1: Reggie Thomas is our guess. He's a media analyst. What

1629
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:23,519
Speaker 1: are your thoughts eight hundred and four or five zero

1630
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:25,880
Speaker 1: seventy eight to seventy six or ticket phone calls after

1631
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:28,040
Speaker 1: we check the traffic and weather not different cities. That's

1632
01:32:28,120 --> 01:32:30,720
Speaker 1: next and Grand Rising family, thanks to staying with us

1633
01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:33,680
Speaker 1: on this sixth day of Quanta about it Ghani, which

1634
01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:35,960
Speaker 1: means what what's the news or what's going on? What's happening?

1635
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:39,160
Speaker 1: And your response is co omba, which means creativity. Right now,

1636
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:41,960
Speaker 1: we're speaking with Reggie Thomas. Reggie is a news analyst

1637
01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:47,240
Speaker 1: the news media v IP, I should say, worked both

1638
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:49,760
Speaker 1: the state side and in Russia as well. And before

1639
01:32:49,760 --> 01:32:51,680
Speaker 1: we left for the traffic update, my question to him

1640
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:54,560
Speaker 1: was how they report the news in Russia because you

1641
01:32:54,640 --> 01:32:58,360
Speaker 1: were there, was it was it just localized what was

1642
01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:01,200
Speaker 1: going on in the area, or was it was it

1643
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:03,360
Speaker 1: a lot of international news they or was it to

1644
01:33:03,479 --> 01:33:07,280
Speaker 1: some sort of uh propaganda? How do you see it?

1645
01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:08,960
Speaker 7: Well?

1646
01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:12,519
Speaker 6: Okay, so when I was there, Boris Helton was the

1647
01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:16,679
Speaker 6: was the president, and I was there during the election.

1648
01:33:18,240 --> 01:33:22,080
Speaker 6: Yelson wanted to be accepted. He wanted Russia to be

1649
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:27,040
Speaker 6: accepted as a mainstream company. He was very good friends

1650
01:33:27,120 --> 01:33:32,519
Speaker 6: with Bill Clinton and UH and so therefore it was

1651
01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:40,559
Speaker 6: probably less uh uh of a propagandaized news presence. Maybe

1652
01:33:40,840 --> 01:33:45,519
Speaker 6: so on the state run television and radio stations, but

1653
01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:52,439
Speaker 6: the privately owned UH radio and TV there was less

1654
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:56,800
Speaker 6: of that, if at all. What we're seeing here now

1655
01:33:57,320 --> 01:34:03,120
Speaker 6: is becoming more propagandas just the situation with Colbert and

1656
01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:08,360
Speaker 6: Kimmel and sixty minutes still tells you that, Yeah, and

1657
01:34:08,439 --> 01:34:08,880
Speaker 6: I get.

1658
01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:11,479
Speaker 1: That, I understand I'm talking about. I want to use

1659
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:13,439
Speaker 1: your experience, though, because we don't have the experience when

1660
01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:15,080
Speaker 1: many of us and now I'm been in Russia in

1661
01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:18,240
Speaker 1: the media, we see what's going on here, but back there,

1662
01:34:18,360 --> 01:34:20,519
Speaker 1: can they tell the difference between the news and what

1663
01:34:20,640 --> 01:34:22,519
Speaker 1: is news and what is propaganda? We can do it

1664
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:25,800
Speaker 1: because we're not experiencing we're the new territory now. But

1665
01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:28,280
Speaker 1: for those who this is what they've grown up with

1666
01:34:28,439 --> 01:34:31,320
Speaker 1: all their lives, can they tell the difference what is

1667
01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:34,120
Speaker 1: actually news and what and what is being propaganda but

1668
01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:34,920
Speaker 1: that they're being fed.

1669
01:34:36,760 --> 01:34:41,880
Speaker 6: So if anything happened with Jelson that that you know,

1670
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:45,240
Speaker 6: could be an embarrassment or something that the Russian people

1671
01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:52,080
Speaker 6: didn't agree with, that would be that would be displayed

1672
01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:57,640
Speaker 6: in the news, and there would be situations where you know,

1673
01:34:57,920 --> 01:35:02,479
Speaker 6: they would try to, you know, I guess, smooth things over.

1674
01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:06,880
Speaker 6: But you didn't feel it as a threat. You didn't

1675
01:35:06,880 --> 01:35:09,680
Speaker 6: feel it as a threat. I never had any newspeople

1676
01:35:10,439 --> 01:35:12,840
Speaker 6: come to me and say, hey, we need to, you know,

1677
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:16,000
Speaker 6: put this in a different direction. And there were times

1678
01:35:16,120 --> 01:35:20,439
Speaker 6: when I felt this though, they were going, like my

1679
01:35:20,600 --> 01:35:26,320
Speaker 6: newspeople were going too far into, you know, being critical

1680
01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:31,519
Speaker 6: about the state, and I would reel them back in

1681
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:36,839
Speaker 6: only because I didn't want Metromedia to lose their license

1682
01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:43,519
Speaker 6: or their ability to broadcast all my watch, especially being

1683
01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:47,439
Speaker 6: that I was the I am the only Ascan American

1684
01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:50,439
Speaker 6: that I know of that has ever worked in media

1685
01:35:51,960 --> 01:35:56,439
Speaker 6: in the Russian landscape. All right, So the deal is

1686
01:35:56,600 --> 01:35:58,719
Speaker 6: is that the pressure was on me to make sure

1687
01:35:58,800 --> 01:36:04,680
Speaker 6: that whatever we were doing worked well and was not

1688
01:36:04,840 --> 01:36:06,880
Speaker 6: going to affect the bottom line and was not going

1689
01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:11,880
Speaker 6: to affect the ability to broadcast. But I never felt

1690
01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:15,680
Speaker 6: as though that, you know, that somebody was forcing me

1691
01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:19,840
Speaker 6: to make sure that my people fell lockstep in what

1692
01:36:20,920 --> 01:36:23,680
Speaker 6: Metromedia never said, Hey, you know, we got to be

1693
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:27,080
Speaker 6: kind of careful with the news. Those decisions came from me.

1694
01:36:28,280 --> 01:36:31,080
Speaker 6: But you know, you know, it's a different story here

1695
01:36:31,160 --> 01:36:34,559
Speaker 6: in the States. And but no, thedn't answer to your question.

1696
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:36,960
Speaker 6: During the time that I was there, No, it was

1697
01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:41,000
Speaker 6: not a thing that we had to worry about propaganda

1698
01:36:42,040 --> 01:36:46,080
Speaker 6: with us being a privately owned station and there wasn't

1699
01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:53,160
Speaker 6: a number privately owned stations. The British had a station there,

1700
01:36:54,080 --> 01:37:03,479
Speaker 6: the French did, Europa plofs, we were Metromedia, BBC have

1701
01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:09,080
Speaker 6: a station or affiliated with station in Russia. So everybody

1702
01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:11,439
Speaker 6: was there to you know, to do their thing and

1703
01:37:11,640 --> 01:37:14,679
Speaker 6: and get the largest numbers. But you know, it wasn't

1704
01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:16,519
Speaker 6: one of those things where we had to be careful

1705
01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:20,599
Speaker 6: of being uh you know, you know, presenting the news

1706
01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:22,599
Speaker 6: with propaganda, right.

1707
01:37:22,520 --> 01:37:25,479
Speaker 1: That's that's the question I asked. Because you have that experience, Reggie,

1708
01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:27,720
Speaker 1: we're gonna let you go. Six minutes after the top day,

1709
01:37:27,760 --> 01:37:29,960
Speaker 1: I want to thank you for sharing this information because

1710
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:33,360
Speaker 1: you know, uh, there are people calling with questions for you,

1711
01:37:33,439 --> 01:37:35,880
Speaker 1: but we just ran out of time with you because

1712
01:37:35,960 --> 01:37:38,080
Speaker 1: doctor Jason Anthony's on deck. We've got to talk to

1713
01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:40,960
Speaker 1: doctor Jason Anthony. But thank you, Reggie, and Tellwayne thank

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Speaker 1: you as well for sharing all this information you guys

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01:37:43,000 --> 01:37:45,080
Speaker 1: share with us over the years about what's going on

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01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:50,400
Speaker 1: in you and and the audience. Thank you, Reggie. Six

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01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:52,800
Speaker 1: half the top there are doctor Jason Anthony's joined us.

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01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:55,920
Speaker 1: He's a therapist. We're going to need some therapy today,

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01:37:56,360 --> 01:37:59,519
Speaker 1: doctor doctor Anthony, Jason Anthony. Welcome back to the program.

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01:38:00,680 --> 01:38:03,320
Speaker 9: Oh welcome, thank you, Thank you, brother Carl, get to

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01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:05,439
Speaker 9: get to be here. Happy holidays and there becausemas to

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01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:06,599
Speaker 9: you and yours by.

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01:38:06,479 --> 01:38:10,439
Speaker 1: The way, yes, sir, same to you, doctor Jason Anthony,

1724
01:38:10,520 --> 01:38:14,640
Speaker 1: Doctor Jason. Is uh it's seeing a therapist still? Or

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01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:17,920
Speaker 1: is it still a stigma in the black community? Is

1726
01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:20,880
Speaker 1: there still the guys just calling you shrinks and all this?

1727
01:38:21,439 --> 01:38:23,519
Speaker 1: How did that term come about? I just thought about that,

1728
01:38:23,640 --> 01:38:24,880
Speaker 1: have a shrink?

1729
01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:27,720
Speaker 9: A client called me a strength to my face. We

1730
01:38:27,800 --> 01:38:32,040
Speaker 9: got a problem. But just yeah, listen, it's still it's

1731
01:38:32,040 --> 01:38:33,559
Speaker 9: still a uphill battle. It's still a fight.

1732
01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:35,000
Speaker 3: You know.

1733
01:38:35,160 --> 01:38:38,360
Speaker 9: The the lack of trust that has been developed over

1734
01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:41,479
Speaker 9: the years is still you know, prevalent right now. But

1735
01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:45,240
Speaker 9: it's it's it's we're making progress, we're seeing you know,

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01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:48,360
Speaker 9: more people come into therapy, but for it to be

1737
01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:54,160
Speaker 9: just the overall accepted, you know approach, We're we're on

1738
01:38:54,240 --> 01:38:55,680
Speaker 9: our way. We're not there yet, but we're on our way.

1739
01:38:56,439 --> 01:38:57,920
Speaker 1: Do you think it's part of the problem that, you know,

1740
01:38:57,960 --> 01:39:00,719
Speaker 1: we have a problem trusting each other. There's a trust problem.

1741
01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:04,720
Speaker 1: We've we've been so programmed to distrust each other. We've

1742
01:39:04,920 --> 01:39:08,160
Speaker 1: and it's well thoroughly programmed amongst us. You think that's

1743
01:39:08,240 --> 01:39:09,800
Speaker 1: part of the problem when he comes to speaking to

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01:39:09,880 --> 01:39:10,439
Speaker 1: a therapist.

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01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:15,160
Speaker 9: Absolutely, absolutely, the lack of trusting these institutions. And of

1746
01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:20,760
Speaker 9: course most of the institutions primarily are Caucasian, and the

1747
01:39:21,320 --> 01:39:25,360
Speaker 9: therapists and the clinicians also follow suit. And that's part

1748
01:39:25,439 --> 01:39:28,880
Speaker 9: of the solution is to get more brown and black

1749
01:39:28,920 --> 01:39:33,600
Speaker 9: faces as therapist. That's how we start to regain the

1750
01:39:33,680 --> 01:39:37,120
Speaker 9: trust and start to, you know, get more people into counseling.

1751
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:42,280
Speaker 1: What are the advantages of seen a therapist. I've got

1752
01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:45,479
Speaker 1: friends who, you know, they have therapists, like people have

1753
01:39:45,720 --> 01:39:49,280
Speaker 1: dentists and mechanics. You know, there's not therapists these mechanical

1754
01:39:50,200 --> 01:39:51,680
Speaker 1: What is the what is the advantage?

1755
01:39:53,320 --> 01:39:56,439
Speaker 9: Well, you know what advantage is just a clear mind.

1756
01:39:56,600 --> 01:40:02,520
Speaker 9: I think control or the management of emotions. Improved relationships,

1757
01:40:02,880 --> 01:40:05,120
Speaker 9: But the most improved relationship is a relationship you have

1758
01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:09,600
Speaker 9: with yourself. That is probably the biggest benefit. It's just

1759
01:40:09,720 --> 01:40:13,559
Speaker 9: an all inclusive win when you think about it. It's

1760
01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:16,160
Speaker 9: so important to just have that space to talk. And

1761
01:40:16,240 --> 01:40:19,400
Speaker 9: I think it's so interesting because when people come into therapy,

1762
01:40:19,840 --> 01:40:21,759
Speaker 9: they have no idea what it's about you know, everything

1763
01:40:21,800 --> 01:40:24,599
Speaker 9: they've seen is on TV, or they've seen a little

1764
01:40:24,680 --> 01:40:28,679
Speaker 9: shorts on these social media platforms. It's not what you think.

1765
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:32,200
Speaker 9: It's a safe space. It's like you run into you know,

1766
01:40:32,320 --> 01:40:34,120
Speaker 9: somebody chasing you run into a police station, or you

1767
01:40:34,200 --> 01:40:36,639
Speaker 9: run into a hospital. You run into a safe place

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01:40:36,800 --> 01:40:40,599
Speaker 9: where your emotions and your thoughts are safe. So it's

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01:40:40,640 --> 01:40:42,720
Speaker 9: not a lot about us telling me what to do.

1770
01:40:43,120 --> 01:40:46,160
Speaker 9: It's about us assisting you and you making the decisions,

1771
01:40:46,200 --> 01:40:48,639
Speaker 9: but better decisions and living a better life.

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Speaker 1: All right. After that, to a family you got a

1773
01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:53,320
Speaker 1: question about therapy. This is man. You need to pose

1774
01:40:53,360 --> 01:40:56,600
Speaker 1: the questions you thought to Jason Anthony. Doctor Anthony, you

1775
01:40:56,840 --> 01:41:00,160
Speaker 1: work a lot with young people as well. How do

1776
01:41:00,240 --> 01:41:03,000
Speaker 1: we know when we need to see a therapist? Or

1777
01:41:03,120 --> 01:41:05,280
Speaker 1: how do we know if my child needs to see

1778
01:41:05,479 --> 01:41:09,240
Speaker 1: a therapist? What are the markets that we should look for?

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01:41:09,920 --> 01:41:12,799
Speaker 9: Well, I'll be honest what you call I think anybody

1780
01:41:12,800 --> 01:41:15,640
Speaker 9: who's a parent right now raising a kid and these

1781
01:41:15,720 --> 01:41:19,520
Speaker 9: times with all the social media and all these devices,

1782
01:41:20,439 --> 01:41:22,200
Speaker 9: you probably need to put your kid in some type

1783
01:41:22,200 --> 01:41:26,639
Speaker 9: of therapy just to allow them to process the world

1784
01:41:27,520 --> 01:41:29,040
Speaker 9: in a safe space. Because you know, kids are not

1785
01:41:29,080 --> 01:41:31,400
Speaker 9: going to run to their parents and tell them about

1786
01:41:31,680 --> 01:41:33,360
Speaker 9: eighty percent of stuff they do. They're not going to

1787
01:41:33,439 --> 01:41:37,280
Speaker 9: tell their parents. But as a life and clinician, I'm

1788
01:41:37,360 --> 01:41:41,120
Speaker 9: mandated to keep things confidential. And therefore they can tell

1789
01:41:41,160 --> 01:41:43,360
Speaker 9: me a lot of things and bounce things off of

1790
01:41:43,400 --> 01:41:45,960
Speaker 9: me and get some feedback and just be heard.

1791
01:41:46,040 --> 01:41:46,439
Speaker 4: Sometimes.

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Speaker 9: I think a lot of these young folks they don't

1793
01:41:48,720 --> 01:41:50,439
Speaker 9: always need to be total what to do, even though

1794
01:41:50,439 --> 01:41:52,479
Speaker 9: they do need to be told what to do. They

1795
01:41:52,479 --> 01:41:53,640
Speaker 9: don't want to be told what to do. They just

1796
01:41:53,680 --> 01:41:56,120
Speaker 9: want to like, listen, just be there for me, don't

1797
01:41:56,120 --> 01:41:58,200
Speaker 9: always criticize me, don't always try to rebuke me, and

1798
01:41:58,360 --> 01:42:01,400
Speaker 9: just be present. Hear me out. And that's what we

1799
01:42:01,479 --> 01:42:03,439
Speaker 9: got to do with these these these young brothers and sisters.

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Speaker 9: We gotta hear them out.

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01:42:05,400 --> 01:42:09,040
Speaker 1: Now. Is that trust absolute? Everything is confidential if it's

1802
01:42:09,120 --> 01:42:12,760
Speaker 1: something you think that the has it ever occurred? When

1803
01:42:12,840 --> 01:42:16,160
Speaker 1: when you're in fact you're treating one of these patients,

1804
01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:18,680
Speaker 1: you think I better tell their parents about this, this

1805
01:42:18,840 --> 01:42:21,080
Speaker 1: is this is going south or something that I think

1806
01:42:21,120 --> 01:42:24,120
Speaker 1: they should be aware or is everything just totally everything

1807
01:42:24,280 --> 01:42:25,080
Speaker 1: just confidential?

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01:42:26,160 --> 01:42:30,960
Speaker 9: No, not everything, definitely, there's some limitations to confidentiality pretty

1809
01:42:31,040 --> 01:42:33,560
Speaker 9: much if if they're the witness of participants in the

1810
01:42:33,640 --> 01:42:36,720
Speaker 9: harming of a mine or somebody elderly or disabled, or

1811
01:42:36,920 --> 01:42:40,240
Speaker 9: if they are you know, uh talking about hurting themselves

1812
01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:42,920
Speaker 9: or someone else, those are the situations that we have

1813
01:42:43,080 --> 01:42:45,599
Speaker 9: to we have a duty to uh inform and warn

1814
01:42:45,680 --> 01:42:48,639
Speaker 9: and but we don't. I would never run to the parent.

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01:42:49,040 --> 01:42:51,519
Speaker 9: What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna assist that teenager

1816
01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:53,760
Speaker 9: in presenting this to the pan I'm gonna be there

1817
01:42:53,800 --> 01:42:56,560
Speaker 9: with them. I'm gonna support them, guide them, and and

1818
01:42:56,760 --> 01:42:59,120
Speaker 9: be there as we you know, as they you know,

1819
01:42:59,280 --> 01:43:01,600
Speaker 9: tell this information to share. But the whole thing is

1820
01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:05,280
Speaker 9: about them empowering them to be able to, you know,

1821
01:43:05,439 --> 01:43:08,600
Speaker 9: use that voice and speak up and too, you know

1822
01:43:08,960 --> 01:43:12,439
Speaker 9: the same things. So that's kind of the the area

1823
01:43:12,520 --> 01:43:15,680
Speaker 9: with confidentiality. For the most part, it does provide a

1824
01:43:15,680 --> 01:43:18,600
Speaker 9: safe space. But there are exclusions of course to that.

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Speaker 1: All right, Family twelve aft the top of the with

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01:43:21,200 --> 01:43:25,040
Speaker 1: doctor Jason Anthony. It works with adults as well as children,

1827
01:43:25,040 --> 01:43:27,240
Speaker 1: but it works a lot with our young people. If

1828
01:43:27,240 --> 01:43:29,439
Speaker 1: you've got a question whether you think your child should

1829
01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:32,800
Speaker 1: needs therapy or not, this is the time to take

1830
01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:36,360
Speaker 1: advantage and speak with doctor Jason Anthony, Doctor janthaf can

1831
01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:39,479
Speaker 1: call for you. Is there a major problem, a major

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01:43:39,600 --> 01:43:41,479
Speaker 1: theme that you've seen with our young people that you're

1833
01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:44,880
Speaker 1: treating these days? Is there something central that it seems

1834
01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:46,800
Speaker 1: like it, you know, just most of them, whether the

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01:43:46,880 --> 01:43:48,679
Speaker 1: young man or the young girls that you're teaching.

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01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:54,040
Speaker 9: I think one of the biggest most disappointing things that

1837
01:43:54,080 --> 01:43:57,479
Speaker 9: I'm seeing is just the need or the expectancy to

1838
01:43:57,640 --> 01:44:01,960
Speaker 9: have it all right now, to have your life planned out,

1839
01:44:02,120 --> 01:44:04,960
Speaker 9: and to know exactly what you're doing, and to be

1840
01:44:05,120 --> 01:44:08,439
Speaker 9: making money. I think that is it's it's it's just

1841
01:44:08,520 --> 01:44:10,720
Speaker 9: allowed them to speed up their own clock, you know,

1842
01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:13,080
Speaker 9: and not not just be president and enjoyed life and

1843
01:44:13,479 --> 01:44:17,840
Speaker 9: and go through these moments. So the desire to be liked,

1844
01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:20,400
Speaker 9: of course, has always been there, been there, Their pressure

1845
01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:23,320
Speaker 9: is nothing new, but now it's on a whole different level.

1846
01:44:24,520 --> 01:44:25,240
Speaker 4: Just the way.

1847
01:44:26,640 --> 01:44:29,240
Speaker 9: The clothes are being worn and and the young ladies

1848
01:44:29,280 --> 01:44:31,800
Speaker 9: are dressing today. You ought to get that attention, to

1849
01:44:31,920 --> 01:44:35,519
Speaker 9: get to be liked, to be wanted to be followed, right,

1850
01:44:35,800 --> 01:44:39,040
Speaker 9: So I just wish they could just slow down, a

1851
01:44:39,080 --> 01:44:41,559
Speaker 9: little bit, you know. It's it's some people figured out

1852
01:44:41,600 --> 01:44:43,519
Speaker 9: later in life. Some people get it together earlier. But

1853
01:44:43,600 --> 01:44:45,439
Speaker 9: you got to trust the process. You just can't rush

1854
01:44:45,479 --> 01:44:47,559
Speaker 9: the process. And that's what I'm seeing a lot of these,

1855
01:44:47,720 --> 01:44:51,280
Speaker 9: uh that microwavee society, you know that we've been living

1856
01:44:51,320 --> 01:44:54,360
Speaker 9: in where everybody want it now. Well they want it now,

1857
01:44:54,800 --> 01:44:57,880
Speaker 9: and it's not gonna happen now. It takes time. Things

1858
01:44:57,960 --> 01:45:00,320
Speaker 9: have to develop, and so that's that's another good thing

1859
01:45:00,360 --> 01:45:02,120
Speaker 9: about counselor is that you kind of allow them to

1860
01:45:02,320 --> 01:45:06,479
Speaker 9: see the benefit of just just just to enjoy life.

1861
01:45:06,600 --> 01:45:09,120
Speaker 9: Just be a kid, be a team, do good stuff,

1862
01:45:09,760 --> 01:45:11,519
Speaker 9: you know. So that's that's one of the biggest issues

1863
01:45:11,560 --> 01:45:13,679
Speaker 9: I'm seeing Right across the board.

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01:45:14,479 --> 01:45:17,160
Speaker 1: Right fourteen at the top, Jane and Pinsfield has a

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01:45:17,240 --> 01:45:20,640
Speaker 1: question for Ease Online one Grand Rising, Jane, Happy New Year,

1866
01:45:20,760 --> 01:45:23,320
Speaker 1: your question for doctor Jason, Yeah, grand.

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01:45:23,200 --> 01:45:26,120
Speaker 9: Rising and happy to you gentlemen too.

1868
01:45:26,400 --> 01:45:26,599
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:45:26,640 --> 01:45:29,120
Speaker 12: My questions are is centered around, you know, my personal

1870
01:45:29,240 --> 01:45:34,760
Speaker 12: experience that I'm going through with oncology and for the

1871
01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:40,400
Speaker 12: last year, what I've found out the common denominator is anxiety.

1872
01:45:40,960 --> 01:45:44,240
Speaker 12: It's like every twist and turn of dealing with you know,

1873
01:45:44,320 --> 01:45:48,200
Speaker 12: my situation is exciting to the point where you know,

1874
01:45:48,520 --> 01:45:49,640
Speaker 12: anxiety kicks in.

1875
01:45:50,400 --> 01:45:50,560
Speaker 9: You know.

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01:45:50,680 --> 01:45:53,240
Speaker 12: My question to you is could you help us with

1877
01:45:54,479 --> 01:45:57,200
Speaker 12: you know, I don't know what is it that the uh,

1878
01:45:57,960 --> 01:46:02,960
Speaker 12: the the trigger mechanisms that that causes anxiety and is

1879
01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:04,920
Speaker 12: anxiety common.

1880
01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:07,519
Speaker 4: Uh to for the I can think for the most

1881
01:46:08,439 --> 01:46:11,679
Speaker 4: all situations that we go to on a psychological level level.

1882
01:46:12,520 --> 01:46:16,360
Speaker 9: Mhmm, yeah, anxiety is uh is a is a big

1883
01:46:16,439 --> 01:46:19,479
Speaker 9: thing today. I think the number one issue that people

1884
01:46:19,560 --> 01:46:21,400
Speaker 9: come in. It seems like a majority of people coming

1885
01:46:21,400 --> 01:46:24,439
Speaker 9: in today are just dealing with issues have anxiety. Anxiety

1886
01:46:24,520 --> 01:46:26,000
Speaker 9: is not a bad thing, and I think that's the

1887
01:46:26,040 --> 01:46:29,639
Speaker 9: first thing we need to Okay, you know, like an enemy,

1888
01:46:29,720 --> 01:46:32,960
Speaker 9: you know, we can use it, and we can we

1889
01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:35,760
Speaker 9: can take advantage of it. It can be a like

1890
01:46:35,880 --> 01:46:38,679
Speaker 9: call to arms or just get up and do something

1891
01:46:38,840 --> 01:46:43,240
Speaker 9: type of feeling that it controls us. It picks over

1892
01:46:43,320 --> 01:46:45,320
Speaker 9: our thoughts and then of course whatever we think, our

1893
01:46:45,360 --> 01:46:47,800
Speaker 9: body is going to reflect that and then we're going

1894
01:46:47,840 --> 01:46:50,120
Speaker 9: to feel the anxiety. So that is the first thing

1895
01:46:50,200 --> 01:46:51,719
Speaker 9: that we have to just be able to tell ourselves,

1896
01:46:51,720 --> 01:46:54,439
Speaker 9: you know, anxiety and all that bad. Now to somebody

1897
01:46:54,520 --> 01:46:57,000
Speaker 9: who having five panic attacks today, they might be like,

1898
01:46:57,040 --> 01:46:58,840
Speaker 9: I don't know what she talked about, and I gotta

1899
01:46:58,880 --> 01:47:01,320
Speaker 9: respect that because a certain levels of it go ahead.

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01:47:01,360 --> 01:47:03,640
Speaker 12: I'm sorry, yeah, sir, No, oh no, I'm apologized too,

1901
01:47:03,840 --> 01:47:06,840
Speaker 12: because you just said that, you know what anxiety is

1902
01:47:08,040 --> 01:47:10,840
Speaker 12: a panic attack. It's almost on the verge of a

1903
01:47:10,960 --> 01:47:14,120
Speaker 12: panic attack. You know, you feel like you're losing control,

1904
01:47:14,640 --> 01:47:16,960
Speaker 12: and you know sometimes like I didn't know, you know,

1905
01:47:16,960 --> 01:47:19,519
Speaker 12: I heard the word anxiety, but I never knew the

1906
01:47:19,680 --> 01:47:23,719
Speaker 12: definition and that we even sort you know, to google

1907
01:47:23,800 --> 01:47:26,800
Speaker 12: it or anything else. But I was experiencing it, and

1908
01:47:26,920 --> 01:47:28,720
Speaker 12: I just realized that every time I would go to

1909
01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:29,400
Speaker 12: the doctor's you.

1910
01:47:29,400 --> 01:47:31,240
Speaker 4: Know what I mean, my blood pressure would be would

1911
01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:31,719
Speaker 4: go up.

1912
01:47:32,040 --> 01:47:34,640
Speaker 12: Et cetera. So that was one of the symptoms of

1913
01:47:34,720 --> 01:47:36,400
Speaker 12: it or whatever. So, you know, thank you very much.

1914
01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:37,760
Speaker 12: I appreciate you taking my question.

1915
01:47:38,720 --> 01:47:40,560
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, absolutely absolutely, thank you.

1916
01:47:41,360 --> 01:47:45,719
Speaker 1: Thanks you. Sixteen half the Top doctor Jay, doctor Jason Answers.

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01:47:45,800 --> 01:47:49,880
Speaker 1: I guess the family. He's a clinician, he's a counselor,

1918
01:47:49,880 --> 01:47:52,759
Speaker 1: he's a therapist. You got questions about that or your children?

1919
01:47:52,800 --> 01:47:54,479
Speaker 1: For I want to talk to him about a young

1920
01:47:54,520 --> 01:47:57,439
Speaker 1: people too, because how young people it's different from when

1921
01:47:57,439 --> 01:47:59,639
Speaker 1: we were going up the world has changed. And sometimes

1922
01:47:59,640 --> 01:48:02,599
Speaker 1: say us as adults don't recognize that, so they react

1923
01:48:02,640 --> 01:48:07,120
Speaker 1: differently to different stimuli. So Jason Anthony's going to break

1924
01:48:07,160 --> 01:48:08,920
Speaker 1: that down fresh. You want to get in on this discussion.

1925
01:48:08,960 --> 01:48:10,320
Speaker 1: You don't have to use your real name too. If

1926
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Speaker 1: it's something personal, you can use a different name of

1927
01:48:12,160 --> 01:48:14,720
Speaker 1: different city, but take advantage of his expertise. You can

1928
01:48:14,760 --> 01:48:17,679
Speaker 1: reach him at eight hundred four or five zero seventy

1929
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Speaker 1: eight seventy six and we'll take your phone calls next

1930
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Speaker 1: and Grand Rising family, thanks for staying with us on

1931
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Speaker 1: this Wednesday morning, the last hump day of twenty twenty five.

1932
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Speaker 1: I guess is doctor Jason Anthony. He's a therapist, is

1933
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Speaker 1: a clinician, He's a counselor. Questions about the whole idea

1934
01:48:32,479 --> 01:48:34,519
Speaker 1: of speaking to somebody. You've got some issues, You've got

1935
01:48:34,560 --> 01:48:37,040
Speaker 1: some concerns, and maybe you can't speak to you boys,

1936
01:48:37,080 --> 01:48:39,840
Speaker 1: you can't speak, you can't tell your friends, but you've

1937
01:48:39,840 --> 01:48:42,840
Speaker 1: got you need somebody else to bounce these ideas off

1938
01:48:42,920 --> 01:48:45,080
Speaker 1: of what you're going through and he can share as

1939
01:48:45,160 --> 01:48:48,000
Speaker 1: he mentioned, you know in total confidence. This is what

1940
01:48:48,160 --> 01:48:50,479
Speaker 1: doctor Jason does. Is one of the few black persons

1941
01:48:50,520 --> 01:48:52,720
Speaker 1: out there who does this and he works a lot

1942
01:48:52,760 --> 01:48:55,200
Speaker 1: with our children. Let's go to line one. Sk Is

1943
01:48:55,280 --> 01:48:57,840
Speaker 1: calling from Baltimore, has a question for you, Doctor Jason

1944
01:48:58,320 --> 01:49:01,559
Speaker 1: sk grand Rising. Welcome to the program, Doctor Jason Anthony,

1945
01:49:03,280 --> 01:49:04,080
Speaker 1: Good morning morning.

1946
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Speaker 9: How your brother's going, How you got anthy My question

1947
01:49:07,760 --> 01:49:08,600
Speaker 9: is pertaining to.

1948
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Speaker 13: My wife.

1949
01:49:13,280 --> 01:49:14,479
Speaker 9: She used to have a therapist.

1950
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Speaker 13: She stopped seeing them. How do My question is how

1951
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Speaker 13: do I can convince her to continue? Because it's definitely needed,

1952
01:49:21,800 --> 01:49:25,840
Speaker 13: and it's a pattern even with her children that I

1953
01:49:25,960 --> 01:49:30,439
Speaker 13: have none by her, but it's it's an apparent pattern

1954
01:49:30,840 --> 01:49:34,240
Speaker 13: of behavior with everybody involved. So what do I do

1955
01:49:34,400 --> 01:49:37,919
Speaker 13: to convince her, first of all, to continue?

1956
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Speaker 9: Okay, well, that's that's that's a that's a lot of question.

1957
01:49:42,320 --> 01:49:45,720
Speaker 9: And I think that we had a change the terminology

1958
01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:52,320
Speaker 9: to convince to support and whatever that looks like. But yeah,

1959
01:49:52,360 --> 01:49:53,599
Speaker 9: do you do you know? Why do you know why

1960
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Speaker 9: she stopped one?

1961
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Speaker 13: From what I gathered, she didn't want to adhee to

1962
01:50:03,080 --> 01:50:10,440
Speaker 13: their suggestions. Nothing they suggested too, because it was a reminder,

1963
01:50:10,479 --> 01:50:12,920
Speaker 13: I guess of the same things I said, And I'm

1964
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Speaker 13: not a therapist at all.

1965
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Speaker 4: Okay.

1966
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Speaker 9: The resistance to change and maybe the lack of taking

1967
01:50:19,520 --> 01:50:23,320
Speaker 9: accountability for whatever behaviors or actions are called them the

1968
01:50:23,400 --> 01:50:28,880
Speaker 9: problems that's sound about, right, absolutely, yes, well, I mean

1969
01:50:28,960 --> 01:50:32,040
Speaker 9: that's that's you know. The approach of the therapist could

1970
01:50:32,080 --> 01:50:36,840
Speaker 9: also be a very impactful. You know, it's more of

1971
01:50:36,880 --> 01:50:40,160
Speaker 9: a direct approach. It's more of a like a supportive approach.

1972
01:50:40,280 --> 01:50:43,800
Speaker 9: But some therapists give it straight up, some give it

1973
01:50:43,840 --> 01:50:46,800
Speaker 9: a little bit, you know, indirectly. But I don't know

1974
01:50:46,920 --> 01:50:50,639
Speaker 9: how she's able to receive information, but I think it's

1975
01:50:50,800 --> 01:50:54,040
Speaker 9: just to praise her. I would first start identifying the

1976
01:50:54,120 --> 01:50:56,800
Speaker 9: things that she saw her progressing in the areas that

1977
01:50:56,920 --> 01:51:00,719
Speaker 9: she changed, if she started working out, or making up earlier,

1978
01:51:00,840 --> 01:51:04,719
Speaker 9: or even being more involved with the children around the house.

1979
01:51:05,320 --> 01:51:08,960
Speaker 9: I'm sure through therapy there's there's been some improvement, so

1980
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Speaker 9: I would really focus on those. I would just say, hey,

1981
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Speaker 9: you know, encourage that, encourage the you know, the progress

1982
01:51:15,640 --> 01:51:18,840
Speaker 9: that she's been making, and maybe that might be enough

1983
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Speaker 9: to get her there. It also could be the different

1984
01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:24,560
Speaker 9: type of clinician that I would always never rule that

1985
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Speaker 9: out as an option. One question for you, sir, how

1986
01:51:27,160 --> 01:51:28,160
Speaker 9: long was she in therapy?

1987
01:51:28,240 --> 01:51:28,840
Speaker 4: For? How long?

1988
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Speaker 9: Altogether?

1989
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Speaker 13: From what I understand? For years?

1990
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Speaker 9: Okay, yeah, you should you should definitely have seen some progress.

1991
01:51:39,280 --> 01:51:41,720
Speaker 9: If not, that means she's not putting in the work

1992
01:51:42,040 --> 01:51:44,880
Speaker 9: and she's relying too heavily upon the therapy that hour,

1993
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Speaker 9: you only got hour. The work starts after you leave

1994
01:51:47,840 --> 01:51:50,680
Speaker 9: the session. The growth and work starts after. So you know,

1995
01:51:50,840 --> 01:51:53,360
Speaker 9: it's it's just a few factors that could also play

1996
01:51:53,439 --> 01:51:55,800
Speaker 9: into it. But I would I will start there. I

1997
01:51:55,800 --> 01:51:59,320
Speaker 9: will look at the changes that she's made. Maybe even

1998
01:51:59,320 --> 01:52:02,439
Speaker 9: put in a letter, write it, write it, and you

1999
01:52:02,479 --> 01:52:04,080
Speaker 9: don't give it to her so she can read it

2000
01:52:04,120 --> 01:52:06,479
Speaker 9: and take it in and then that that could also

2001
01:52:06,560 --> 01:52:06,840
Speaker 9: help her.

2002
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Speaker 13: I've actually tried that, so but uh, something else, all right.

2003
01:52:14,520 --> 01:52:17,479
Speaker 9: The next option. There's always this another option. But that's

2004
01:52:17,560 --> 01:52:19,639
Speaker 9: good that you tried that. But yeah, just just encourage.

2005
01:52:19,840 --> 01:52:23,200
Speaker 9: Now what about you, Well, you know, why don't you

2006
01:52:24,000 --> 01:52:25,880
Speaker 9: just join in a session with her and just give

2007
01:52:25,920 --> 01:52:27,880
Speaker 9: it a shot. I mean, it's it's for everybody. You're

2008
01:52:27,880 --> 01:52:31,240
Speaker 9: gonna benefit from it. You're gonna see the world the

2009
01:52:31,360 --> 01:52:31,760
Speaker 9: thing it is.

2010
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Speaker 13: Now, I feel like I need a twelve step program,

2011
01:52:35,840 --> 01:52:39,280
Speaker 13: not not being not being funny or proceduous, I mean,

2012
01:52:39,360 --> 01:52:42,519
Speaker 13: because it takes a lot of patients, which I don't

2013
01:52:42,520 --> 01:52:46,400
Speaker 13: have any problem of patience. But because there is, I

2014
01:52:46,479 --> 01:52:49,240
Speaker 13: don't see any progress at all. Matter of fact, it's

2015
01:52:49,360 --> 01:52:53,880
Speaker 13: like they'll do something antiminously. It's like they never did

2016
01:52:53,920 --> 01:52:56,080
Speaker 13: it to themselves.

2017
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Speaker 9: Okay, so three years you didn't see much progress? No, okay,

2018
01:53:04,240 --> 01:53:05,760
Speaker 9: all right, that's that's the long time to me in

2019
01:53:05,840 --> 01:53:10,720
Speaker 9: therapy to not see those things. And who was it

2020
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Speaker 9: her therapy or was that something that you uh convinced

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Speaker 9: her to do? As you mentioned before, who are we.

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Speaker 13: We talked about it several times and and she finally

2023
01:53:21,040 --> 01:53:26,400
Speaker 13: finally went because I found her alarming that even when

2024
01:53:26,439 --> 01:53:29,400
Speaker 13: she's sleep, she's not sleep, she's making these noises that

2025
01:53:30,400 --> 01:53:33,519
Speaker 13: alarmed me. I mean because like, are you moaning from pain?

2026
01:53:33,600 --> 01:53:35,439
Speaker 13: What do you thinking about? What are you dreaming about?

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Speaker 13: And that's what was the be caredless for me to

2028
01:53:39,680 --> 01:53:41,280
Speaker 13: suggest her something needs to be done.

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Speaker 9: So but it's still the same. And was there any

2030
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Speaker 9: type of diagnosis that was given unto her originally.

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Speaker 13: It's you know, there was a diagnosis, but it wasn't

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Speaker 13: explained to me because that you know, that confidentiality thing,

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01:53:55,479 --> 01:53:55,640
Speaker 13: you know.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I said, yeah, that's just figure she would you know,

2035
01:54:02,120 --> 01:54:05,200
Speaker 9: you know, inform you because the people around that you live,

2036
01:54:05,280 --> 01:54:07,240
Speaker 9: you know, have to be supportive of whatever's going on.

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01:54:07,439 --> 01:54:10,040
Speaker 9: So that's information that you want to you know, disclose

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01:54:10,040 --> 01:54:12,599
Speaker 9: in a way that you know you can darner the support.

2039
01:54:13,240 --> 01:54:17,080
Speaker 9: But yeah, I think one of the I mean just

2040
01:54:17,200 --> 01:54:19,880
Speaker 9: to say, hey, let's let's do this together and you

2041
01:54:19,960 --> 01:54:23,040
Speaker 9: book it, you find a therapist, you take everything off

2042
01:54:23,120 --> 01:54:25,160
Speaker 9: the table, and just if you really want to back

2043
01:54:25,200 --> 01:54:28,120
Speaker 9: in therapy, grab her hand and pull her back in

2044
01:54:28,160 --> 01:54:32,000
Speaker 9: the therapy. That that if you haven't tried out of

2045
01:54:32,040 --> 01:54:34,040
Speaker 9: that question, that approach.

2046
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Speaker 13: I'm not. I've tered there for a kid. Well, you've

2047
01:54:38,280 --> 01:54:38,960
Speaker 13: been very helpful.

2048
01:54:40,520 --> 01:54:43,240
Speaker 9: Hey listen anytime, I know our brother Carol is going

2049
01:54:43,280 --> 01:54:44,760
Speaker 9: to throw my number out there at some point, So

2050
01:54:45,520 --> 01:54:47,240
Speaker 9: if you wanted you to hit me up, we can,

2051
01:54:47,440 --> 01:54:49,480
Speaker 9: you know, talk about this a little bit more if you.

2052
01:54:49,600 --> 01:54:56,520
Speaker 13: Like, absolutely absolutely all right, good luck, all right.

2053
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Speaker 1: Twenty eight and a half of the Top Now. John

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Speaker 1: is checking in from Long Beach, californ Ties on line three.

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Speaker 1: Grand Rising Johnny, Happy New Year with doctor Jason Anthony.

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Speaker 7: Were rising into your grout. I had music, but both

2057
01:55:07,800 --> 01:55:10,640
Speaker 7: you and your guess you know, and being a bitteran

2058
01:55:11,080 --> 01:55:13,800
Speaker 7: you know, when I first started going to the v A.

2059
01:55:14,320 --> 01:55:17,640
Speaker 7: You know, I got a first a white woman for

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01:55:17,680 --> 01:55:20,840
Speaker 7: a psychiatrists. If it wasn't for her husband, man, I

2061
01:55:20,840 --> 01:55:23,280
Speaker 7: would have never gotten a treatment that I got. I

2062
01:55:23,400 --> 01:55:27,280
Speaker 7: ended up getting a black lady psychiatrist eventually. And we

2063
01:55:27,400 --> 01:55:29,120
Speaker 7: were talking one day and she told us, she says,

2064
01:55:29,960 --> 01:55:33,160
Speaker 7: these women around here a psychiatrists, they're afraid of you guys.

2065
01:55:34,440 --> 01:55:37,040
Speaker 7: And and that started me. I'm like, well, I said,

2066
01:55:37,080 --> 01:55:38,960
Speaker 7: I asked, I said, how can we get proper treatment

2067
01:55:39,040 --> 01:55:39,920
Speaker 7: if they're afraid of us?

2068
01:55:41,080 --> 01:55:41,280
Speaker 6: You know?

2069
01:55:41,560 --> 01:55:44,280
Speaker 7: And but you know that's it, you know. And and

2070
01:55:45,040 --> 01:55:46,720
Speaker 7: a lot of you know, a lot of people that

2071
01:55:46,800 --> 01:55:48,880
Speaker 7: I know that are black, it's like, you know, they

2072
01:55:48,920 --> 01:55:52,720
Speaker 7: don't trust Deithis either. So how what would you do

2073
01:55:52,760 --> 01:55:53,720
Speaker 7: about that situation?

2074
01:55:55,560 --> 01:55:58,800
Speaker 9: Yeah, well it's I think it goes back to what

2075
01:55:58,840 --> 01:56:02,720
Speaker 9: I said earlier to about the lack of representation. Now,

2076
01:56:02,920 --> 01:56:04,400
Speaker 9: I just want to make sure I heard you correctly.

2077
01:56:04,480 --> 01:56:08,840
Speaker 9: Did you say the clinicians the psychiatrist's husband told you

2078
01:56:08,960 --> 01:56:12,080
Speaker 9: that women are afraid of black men or just men

2079
01:56:12,160 --> 01:56:14,640
Speaker 9: in general. I just want to make sure I heard well.

2080
01:56:15,000 --> 01:56:17,600
Speaker 9: He told me that, you know, the first he told

2081
01:56:17,640 --> 01:56:20,560
Speaker 9: me that his wife who was afraid of black she

2082
01:56:20,680 --> 01:56:22,520
Speaker 9: was afraid of me, and she was afraid of black women.

2083
01:56:22,640 --> 01:56:24,760
Speaker 9: But I also end up getting a black, a black

2084
01:56:24,840 --> 01:56:28,800
Speaker 9: psychiatrist at the v A who's who's a female, and

2085
01:56:28,920 --> 01:56:31,480
Speaker 9: she told me that there were dentally the people the

2086
01:56:31,520 --> 01:56:33,840
Speaker 9: women talk. I don't know if she heard them, if

2087
01:56:33,840 --> 01:56:36,200
Speaker 9: they were talking to her or she overheard them and

2088
01:56:36,840 --> 01:56:40,000
Speaker 9: they were she was saying that they were afraid to treat.

2089
01:56:39,880 --> 01:56:44,120
Speaker 7: Black black men at the Vakah.

2090
01:56:44,600 --> 01:56:49,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I guess, yeah. I think that goes

2091
01:56:50,000 --> 01:56:52,040
Speaker 9: back to just some of those the stereotypes.

2092
01:56:52,640 --> 01:56:54,320
Speaker 5: But it is what it is.

2093
01:56:54,440 --> 01:56:56,600
Speaker 9: But I mean, it's it's unfortunately it is. It's a

2094
01:56:56,640 --> 01:57:00,920
Speaker 9: real thing, and the lack of representation. It goes back

2095
01:57:00,960 --> 01:57:05,160
Speaker 9: to just we got to put faces that are familiar, experiences,

2096
01:57:05,240 --> 01:57:09,000
Speaker 9: that are relatable, you know, and just to create that

2097
01:57:09,080 --> 01:57:13,360
Speaker 9: space to connect on that level. So it's it's obviously

2098
01:57:13,360 --> 01:57:18,000
Speaker 9: a heavily dominated women's profession. Black you know, male therapists

2099
01:57:18,440 --> 01:57:22,640
Speaker 9: were unicorns, we're anomalies, and black therapists male therapists are

2100
01:57:22,800 --> 01:57:26,960
Speaker 9: even rarer than that. So it's it's it's about you know,

2101
01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:32,360
Speaker 9: the parents right now, the mentors, the fathers, the pastors,

2102
01:57:32,480 --> 01:57:37,920
Speaker 9: the community leaders like helping to develop some type of

2103
01:57:38,080 --> 01:57:41,240
Speaker 9: system pipeline where we're getting more people interested in this

2104
01:57:41,400 --> 01:57:44,839
Speaker 9: in this career. You know, mental health counseling is projected

2105
01:57:44,880 --> 01:57:47,400
Speaker 9: to be one of the fastest growing professions in the

2106
01:57:47,520 --> 01:57:51,600
Speaker 9: next five years because of all the mental health conversations

2107
01:57:51,680 --> 01:57:53,920
Speaker 9: and things that are happening in that space. So it's

2108
01:57:53,960 --> 01:57:56,880
Speaker 9: it's it's very profitable because you know, the young people,

2109
01:57:56,880 --> 01:57:59,080
Speaker 9: they want money, they want to get paid. But on

2110
01:57:59,160 --> 01:58:01,560
Speaker 9: the other the hand is soul rewarding. You know that

2111
01:58:01,800 --> 01:58:03,920
Speaker 9: the work you do and the fulfillment that you get,

2112
01:58:04,960 --> 01:58:09,520
Speaker 9: it's a prepose driven profession. So definitely, just if anybody's

2113
01:58:09,560 --> 01:58:12,200
Speaker 9: listening out there as a mentor a mom parent, uh,

2114
01:58:12,800 --> 01:58:14,640
Speaker 9: you know, talk to your kids about that, or just

2115
01:58:14,800 --> 01:58:20,000
Speaker 9: maybe educators to kind of develop more of a program

2116
01:58:20,080 --> 01:58:22,640
Speaker 9: where this is talked about and just the you know,

2117
01:58:22,720 --> 01:58:26,120
Speaker 9: the counseling profession in a hole. So that's that's ultimately

2118
01:58:26,160 --> 01:58:28,200
Speaker 9: how we're going to change the game. But it's gonna

2119
01:58:28,200 --> 01:58:29,480
Speaker 9: take a little bit of all of us.

2120
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Speaker 7: To do it. Yeah, that's that's what I was thinking too,

2121
01:58:32,600 --> 01:58:36,600
Speaker 7: that you know, with a young young young black black

2122
01:58:36,800 --> 01:58:39,240
Speaker 7: black men and women who are in you know, are

2123
01:58:39,400 --> 01:58:42,839
Speaker 7: going into profession that they need to maybe go instead

2124
01:58:42,840 --> 01:58:46,240
Speaker 7: of always going towards medical maybe you know, become a psychiatrist,

2125
01:58:47,040 --> 01:58:52,960
Speaker 7: you know, or even today that that stigma's still attached.

2126
01:58:52,600 --> 01:58:52,760
Speaker 6: You know.

2127
01:58:53,040 --> 01:58:56,240
Speaker 7: And I know I broke re Field as though, you know,

2128
01:58:56,880 --> 01:58:58,760
Speaker 7: the things I go through. I told him, it's like,

2129
01:58:58,880 --> 01:59:01,280
Speaker 7: you know, you know, you don't unders then that when

2130
01:59:01,320 --> 01:59:05,000
Speaker 7: you're you know, you working in the white environment, in

2131
01:59:05,280 --> 01:59:08,840
Speaker 7: white society, you know, if working for a company, the

2132
01:59:08,920 --> 01:59:11,480
Speaker 7: stuff that black people have, they have to keep people

2133
01:59:11,480 --> 01:59:14,760
Speaker 7: within themselves, okay, because they really can't express yourself okay,

2134
01:59:15,360 --> 01:59:17,840
Speaker 7: you know, it starts to build up, you know. And

2135
01:59:18,160 --> 01:59:22,040
Speaker 7: that's the thing that peop don't understand, you know. So I,

2136
01:59:22,960 --> 01:59:24,640
Speaker 7: you know, what I go through is my you know,

2137
01:59:25,000 --> 01:59:27,480
Speaker 7: I deal with it. You know, I've learned to accept it,

2138
01:59:27,600 --> 01:59:30,760
Speaker 7: you know, and now I'm stilling dirty, you know, and

2139
01:59:31,960 --> 01:59:34,640
Speaker 7: I you know, I encourage people. You know, sometimes you

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Speaker 7: can't talk to your friends. You can't you can't open

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Speaker 7: up to your friends and express it in you know,

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Speaker 7: how you really feel, because there's a stigma of it

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Speaker 7: that's attached to it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: It it takes a special deep friendship to be able

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Speaker 9: to open up and share some of those inner deep feelings.

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Speaker 9: And not have that friend, you know, respond in a

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Speaker 9: way that it's not comfortable for them. And I think

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Speaker 9: that's the that's the risk of opening up to people

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Speaker 9: and family and friends about really deep things, is that

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Speaker 9: it becomes uncomfortable for them, and then the relationship can

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Speaker 9: be you know, uncomfortable going forward. So that is exactly

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Speaker 9: why therapy works. Something that you did mention on with

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Speaker 9: these psychiatrists.

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Speaker 5: I am.

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Speaker 9: I'm holistic in nature, but I understand the importance of medication.

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Speaker 9: But I do not believe we need to be medicating

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Speaker 9: seven years old with everybody, with every seven year old,

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Speaker 9: especially black kid with ADHD. Medication Well, it's it's it's

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Speaker 9: something going on. We know what's going on in the society.

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Speaker 9: We know it's a business. And too many, too often,

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Speaker 9: you know, I'm seeing these young brothers and sisters going

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Speaker 9: into psychiatrists and psychologists and leaving with a label. Now

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Speaker 9: I'm not saying a prescription, they're leaving with a label.

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Speaker 9: They're leaving with a diagnosis, which they're going to start

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Speaker 9: to live their life with that diagnosis. And that's not

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Speaker 9: I don't think that's ethical. I don't believe it's accurate.

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Speaker 9: A lot of times I have to challenge these diagnosis

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Speaker 9: just to make sure that somebody just wasn't just writing

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Speaker 9: prescriptions that they just felt like writing a lot, you know.

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Speaker 9: So it's it's it's a major problem, and we need

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Speaker 9: to address that as well. We need to get black

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Speaker 9: or just brown psychiatrist psychologists who actually care about the

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Speaker 9: mental health process and not just about writing prescriptions. And

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Speaker 9: that's what we're looking for. We're looking for those people

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Speaker 9: for my team right now. We want those types of

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Speaker 9: people who actually care about their clients and and doesn't

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Speaker 9: you know, doesn't just want to medicate everybody, right.

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Speaker 7: I tried the medication too, and it's like, you know,

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Speaker 7: and the medication to me, I had to get off

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Speaker 7: of it, okay, because you know, it was it wasn't

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Speaker 7: helping me. You know, I became dependent upon it, you know,

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Speaker 7: things like I'm sure I'm sharing my story because you know,

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Speaker 7: you know, and uh it needs to be sure, okay,

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Speaker 7: you know. And I've always been a confident person, you know,

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Speaker 7: It's just that you know, I ran into you know,

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Speaker 7: being being involved. When you're working in the white and

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Speaker 7: you know, and in white uh white corporate America, you know,

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Speaker 7: it takes a total people, you know, I mean, it

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Speaker 7: really does because we experienced that other people do experience

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Speaker 7: in in the workplace. So I was just going to

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Speaker 7: share my story this morning last year. There's there's all.

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Speaker 1: Right, all right, thanks, thanks Johnny, thanks for sharing your

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Speaker 1: story with us. All right twenty six away from the

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Speaker 1: top of Doctor Anthony. Uh, young people and you say

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Speaker 1: that they want things now, you see a lot of

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Speaker 1: them their parents bring them in. How much is is

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Speaker 1: the internet? How much of the stuff that they see online?

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Speaker 1: How much of these these what these young rappers are

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Speaker 1: doing and and these videos that they're seeing, how much

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Speaker 1: of that? How impressionable are young people when they see

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Speaker 1: these things?

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Speaker 9: It's it's it's controlling, you know, it's it's like who's

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Speaker 9: controlling who's in your ear? And that's who's in their ears?

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Speaker 9: Social media?

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Speaker 4: YouTube?

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Speaker 9: And know feel about the gaming The gaming is I

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Speaker 9: think one of the most deceptive tools that they use

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Speaker 9: to really hide things. You know, you can see something

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Speaker 9: on social media, you can see you know, if it's

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Speaker 9: explicit whatever. But these games that you get into, you

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Speaker 9: get into this competitive nature to be successful. And another

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Speaker 9: big draws of video games is that they feel like winners.

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Speaker 9: You know, they can win and compete and beat people

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Speaker 9: and it kind of builds them up. So it's a

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Speaker 9: it's a real dangerous drug, these video games. And I

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Speaker 9: don't have any video games. I got a six or

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Speaker 9: four year old, and the only ones I got to

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Speaker 9: like the old school or atari stuff because I can

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Speaker 9: play the old school stuff. But yeah, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 9: buy them as they get older and goes, you know,

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Speaker 9: Nintendo's and whatever it is right now, PlayStation it's it's

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Speaker 9: too much. And I think that is kind of like

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Speaker 9: something parent giving to kids to keep them, to tell

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Speaker 9: you the play play your games whatever. They're addicted to

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Speaker 9: these games, y'all, and ain't about playing. They are addicted

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Speaker 9: to these games, and then the interactions that are that

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Speaker 9: they're being made, you know, through their headsets talking to

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Speaker 9: these strangers. There's a lot of pedophiles that actually use

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Speaker 9: those platforms to learn and it works. So outside of

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Speaker 9: the video games. Back to what you said called, yeah,

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Speaker 9: social media is a major problem. You got to start

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Speaker 9: up restrictions. You got to make sure that the content

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Speaker 9: is not uh, you know, it's appropriate for the age obviously,

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Speaker 9: but parents don't don't just be thinking, you know, your

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Speaker 9: kids good and they're watching TV or on the internet.

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Speaker 9: Look what they're watching, go through their history. You know,

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Speaker 9: I'm sure I don't to lead their cookies every day.

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Speaker 9: Still again, right and.

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Speaker 1: Right, because we've got to step aside and I'll let

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Speaker 1: you pick up the conversation. We get back because we

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Speaker 1: heard a story I think was last week with three

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Speaker 1: in Cleveland. Three youngsters I'm sure if they were even teenager,

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Speaker 1: stole a car and they found out they were you know,

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Speaker 1: found the information on the internet, and so they try

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Speaker 1: to do themselves and stole a car and they got caught. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: we'll dig deep into it. How how the internet is,

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Speaker 1: you know, changing the minds of our young people. Family,

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Speaker 1: you two can get in on this conversation with doctor

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Speaker 1: Jason Anthony. Reach out to us at eight hundred four

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Speaker 1: to five zero seventy eight to seventy six year ticket

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Speaker 1: phone calls next and Grand Rising family and about Aghani,

2253
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Speaker 1: is this a sixth day of concert? By Agana means

2254
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Speaker 1: what's the news or in our vernacular, what's happening, what's

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Speaker 1: going on? And your response is comba, which means creativity.

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Speaker 1: I guess right now, is doctor Jason Anthony he's a therapist,

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Speaker 1: he's a counselor as a clinician. Got a question about

2258
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Speaker 1: it issue, reach out to us at eight hundred four

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Speaker 1: or five zero seventy eight seventy six. Coming up later

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Speaker 1: this morning, we're gonna speak with the former Minister of

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Speaker 1: Information from Public Enemy. That would be a Professor Griff

2262
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Speaker 1: and he's got to talk about and this was probably

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Speaker 1: a question we asked for doctor Anthony hip Hop and

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Speaker 1: artists like Nicki Minaja shaping the minds of our young people.

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Speaker 1: So we'll get there with Professor Griffs. Is also going

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Speaker 1: to unpack the global plan for Africa. They half for

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Speaker 1: us tomorrow and New Year's Day, first day of the year,

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Speaker 1: grill I, Professor James Small will join us. And also

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Speaker 1: we're going to have author and astro as Lloyd Straehorn's

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Speaker 1: going with us Astor Phillis's doctor Lloyd Straehorn. So you've

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Speaker 1: got a question about what you think the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: six is going to be for you, He's the man

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Speaker 1: you need to talk to. Is a legend, if you will,

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Speaker 1: in his field, and so we'll look for hear from

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Speaker 1: you right here in Baltimore on ten ten WLB and

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Speaker 1: in the DMV area the Washington, DC Metropolitan ere Round

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Speaker 1: fourteen fifty w L. Doctor Jason as Tyre's calling us

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Speaker 1: from Baltimore. She's online one Grand Rising, Tari. I'm with

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Speaker 1: doctor Jason Anthony.

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Speaker 14: Good morning, Grand Rising. I just wanted to thank you

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Speaker 14: all for taking this time to shed light on the

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Speaker 14: mental health outlook for us as people of color as

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Speaker 14: well as universally. I want to thank you doctor Anthony

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Speaker 14: for your contributions. And I just want to say, as

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Speaker 14: a sense clinician and social work for over thirty years,

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Speaker 14: I have seen the need for us to have a

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Speaker 14: collective model that really deals with the trauma that a

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Speaker 14: lot of people of color are dealing with. And trauma

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Speaker 14: informed therapy is different than just individual psychotherapy, and so

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Speaker 14: we don't seem to have enough people who realize that

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Speaker 14: they are two separate modalities that need to be treated unilaterally.

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Speaker 14: And so when we start to deal with some of

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Speaker 14: the deep rooted mental health behaviors that have not been

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Speaker 14: addressed in the family or within our community, then we

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Speaker 14: have to deal with the trauma that is so normalized.

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Speaker 14: And when we normalize trauma, then the mental health behaviors

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Speaker 14: become seemingly normal or just something that someone's going through.

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Speaker 14: So I just wanted to highlight that. I wanted to

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Speaker 14: let you know that I have been doing psychotherapy within

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Speaker 14: the Baltimore and Malin areas for about thirty years, and

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Speaker 14: so I do not prescribe medication, but I do work

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Speaker 14: and partner with psychiatrists just in case medication might be

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Speaker 14: an effective mode of treatment along with psychotherapy and trauma

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Speaker 14: informed therapy. I also want to say that the longevity

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Speaker 14: and the commitment that is needed for us as clinicians

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Speaker 14: of color is something that needs to be looked at,

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Speaker 14: not only in terms of our client's willingness to stay engaged,

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Speaker 14: but also for funding to pay for because right now,

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Speaker 14: insurance doesn't pay for trauma informed therapy and most of

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Speaker 14: our clients can't afford to pay for it on their own.

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Speaker 14: So I infuse it and I do it pro bono

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Speaker 14: because if I don't, then me just dealing with the

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Speaker 14: basic mental health disorders is not going to really give

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Speaker 14: our clients the understanding of why some the behaviors have

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Speaker 14: been hidden and have not been acknowledged by their culture,

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Speaker 14: by their family, and by their community.

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Speaker 9: Amazing, you are actually amazing thirty years in the game.

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Speaker 9: Salute to you, Thank you for your work system, for

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Speaker 9: what you're doing out there. I already know you're doing

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Speaker 9: a lot of work. And you mentioned pro bono. Now, okay,

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Speaker 9: so in addition to what you're saying, funding to make

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Speaker 9: sure the trauma informed care is being properly handled. But

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Speaker 9: then the clinicians themselves the burnout, right, I mean, just

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Speaker 9: I do a lot of pro bono and my schedule

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Speaker 9: does not allow for a lot of that, but we

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Speaker 9: have to do it. And you know, not just so

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Speaker 9: much the funding and the support of a couple of

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Speaker 9: the clients, but for us as clinicians to help us sell.

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Speaker 9: I mean, it's it's a heavy it's a heavy job.

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Speaker 9: It's it's heavy lifting. You know, we plan a lot

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Speaker 9: of seeds. We don't always get to see them grow,

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Speaker 9: but every day we got to get those tools out

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Speaker 9: in plant. So I think that's amazing. Everything you said

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Speaker 9: is it's spout on. I totally agree with that one

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Speaker 9: hundred percent. And uh, the normalizing of trauma, it's the

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Speaker 9: color before mentioned about anxiety. He didn't realize he had anxiety. Uh,

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Speaker 9: it's it's normalized. It is to be black in this

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Speaker 9: country and grow up and have to deal with a

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Speaker 9: lot of things. You deal with, you're gonna have anxiety,

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Speaker 9: and we just we normalize it. And the traumas too.

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Speaker 9: Some of the conversations I have first for first time clients,

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Speaker 9: ask him is there any trauma that they've been through?

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Speaker 9: And they're like no. Then they start selling their stories

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Speaker 9: and you know, the brother got shot run in front

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Speaker 9: of them and this happened, and I was like, that's trauma,

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Speaker 9: that's that's traumatic. But we just it's life, you know,

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Speaker 9: for a lot of us. So we got to keep pushing.

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Speaker 9: We got to keep working. And if you know a therapist,

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Speaker 9: if you know a clinicians, some I'm a little love,

2350
02:10:52,880 --> 02:10:55,440
Speaker 9: you know, because we we we don't get a lot

2351
02:10:55,480 --> 02:10:57,800
Speaker 9: of people asking us how we're going. And I'm pretty

2352
02:10:57,800 --> 02:11:00,840
Speaker 9: sure this clinician will the same when somebody asked you

2353
02:11:00,840 --> 02:11:03,040
Speaker 9: to ask you, hey, how are you? You know, I'd

2354
02:11:03,080 --> 02:11:05,440
Speaker 9: just like, wow, this is this is different and you

2355
02:11:05,440 --> 02:11:07,480
Speaker 9: don't get that as much. So just show those people

2356
02:11:07,520 --> 02:11:10,360
Speaker 9: out there who's putting in the work in this profession.

2357
02:11:10,480 --> 02:11:13,840
Speaker 9: It's a very thankless job at times, but we got

2358
02:11:13,920 --> 02:11:16,400
Speaker 9: to keep doing it and we have a passion for it,

2359
02:11:16,520 --> 02:11:19,240
Speaker 9: so thank you. Thank you for those words, and thank

2360
02:11:19,280 --> 02:11:21,480
Speaker 9: you for that encouragement and all that knowledge you just dropped.

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Speaker 14: Oh You're welcome, and I just want to thank you

2362
02:11:24,320 --> 02:11:28,240
Speaker 14: again for the work that you're doing. I literally was

2363
02:11:28,600 --> 02:11:31,640
Speaker 14: beginning to do some work with NIH before everything got

2364
02:11:31,680 --> 02:11:34,320
Speaker 14: shut down, and part of what we were focusing on

2365
02:11:34,480 --> 02:11:37,600
Speaker 14: in the last two years was looking at the impact

2366
02:11:38,160 --> 02:11:42,000
Speaker 14: of technology on the mind of our adolescents and young adults,

2367
02:11:42,560 --> 02:11:46,760
Speaker 14: and we had saw significant impacts on their ability to

2368
02:11:46,840 --> 02:11:51,000
Speaker 14: stay focused, to regulate their moods, and to modify their

2369
02:11:51,120 --> 02:11:54,840
Speaker 14: behaviors because of external stimuli. So a lot of what

2370
02:11:54,960 --> 02:11:57,480
Speaker 14: I'm doing, or was doing and continue to do with

2371
02:11:57,600 --> 02:12:01,720
Speaker 14: my parents that have teenagers is helping to reshape the

2372
02:12:01,880 --> 02:12:05,400
Speaker 14: thoughts of the parents so that the household can create

2373
02:12:05,480 --> 02:12:09,160
Speaker 14: a safe space for thinking and for expression of those

2374
02:12:09,200 --> 02:12:15,280
Speaker 14: emotions that are usually undergirded by their use of technology excessively.

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02:12:15,680 --> 02:12:19,480
Speaker 14: I have no problem with technology, but technology cannot parent

2376
02:12:19,640 --> 02:12:22,760
Speaker 14: our children. Technology is not a vehicle for them to

2377
02:12:23,520 --> 02:12:27,320
Speaker 14: mass their emotions. It is supposed to be for enjoyment,

2378
02:12:27,840 --> 02:12:32,880
Speaker 14: not for strategic use of babysitting or making sure that

2379
02:12:32,960 --> 02:12:37,160
Speaker 14: they are occupied. Because their minds are still developing. We

2380
02:12:37,360 --> 02:12:41,760
Speaker 14: have some beautiful minded young people even being exposed to

2381
02:12:41,840 --> 02:12:44,720
Speaker 14: a level of violence and trauma in their communities, and

2382
02:12:44,840 --> 02:12:48,400
Speaker 14: the more we feed their beautiful minds, the more beautiful

2383
02:12:48,440 --> 02:12:51,120
Speaker 14: their minds can be and help us to deal with

2384
02:12:51,320 --> 02:12:56,240
Speaker 14: any unresolved trauma, exposure to violence, as well as to

2385
02:12:56,520 --> 02:13:00,880
Speaker 14: the parts of society that does not offer stimulus stemilization

2386
02:13:01,080 --> 02:13:04,280
Speaker 14: in a positive way. So it is a unilateral effect,

2387
02:13:04,640 --> 02:13:07,560
Speaker 14: and it's a universal technique, and it's not just for us,

2388
02:13:07,680 --> 02:13:09,400
Speaker 14: but it will work for us, and if it works

2389
02:13:09,440 --> 02:13:11,960
Speaker 14: for us, it will work for every other culture because

2390
02:13:12,000 --> 02:13:15,160
Speaker 14: we have been the most traumatized here in this country.

2391
02:13:15,560 --> 02:13:18,600
Speaker 14: Thank you all so much, and I will continue to

2392
02:13:18,720 --> 02:13:21,040
Speaker 14: do what it is that I'm privileged to do. At

2393
02:13:21,080 --> 02:13:25,080
Speaker 14: some point in my career. For thirty years, it was very,

2394
02:13:25,280 --> 02:13:28,960
Speaker 14: very trying. But as I get to this level and

2395
02:13:29,080 --> 02:13:34,360
Speaker 14: I'm more comfortable with the therapeutic techniques and the interventions

2396
02:13:34,440 --> 02:13:37,440
Speaker 14: that have come to me through the work in dealing

2397
02:13:37,520 --> 02:13:41,720
Speaker 14: with our population of people of color, it becomes refreshing

2398
02:13:42,120 --> 02:13:48,240
Speaker 14: because I'm not just relying on the textbook interventions and ideologies.

2399
02:13:48,600 --> 02:13:52,720
Speaker 14: I have been able to culturally sensitize those methods to

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02:13:52,920 --> 02:13:55,720
Speaker 14: meet the demands and the needs for our people. And

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02:13:55,960 --> 02:13:58,640
Speaker 14: if I said, if they meet the demands and needs

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02:13:58,680 --> 02:14:02,240
Speaker 14: for our people, we shall be the model that works

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02:14:02,320 --> 02:14:05,320
Speaker 14: for all other people. And that's something that gives me joy.

2404
02:14:05,680 --> 02:14:08,200
Speaker 14: It gives me a lot of pride, and it also

2405
02:14:08,320 --> 02:14:11,320
Speaker 14: gives me hope to keep on doing what I'm doing.

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02:14:12,120 --> 02:14:14,520
Speaker 7: Thank you to keep up with you all.

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02:14:15,040 --> 02:14:18,800
Speaker 14: And I just give you congratulations and support and praise

2408
02:14:19,200 --> 02:14:21,840
Speaker 14: for all the things that you're doing. And I'm sure

2409
02:14:21,960 --> 02:14:24,560
Speaker 14: that at some point our past will cross and we'll

2410
02:14:24,600 --> 02:14:26,680
Speaker 14: be able to unite doing what we do.

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02:14:27,520 --> 02:14:28,920
Speaker 4: I'm very I'm very intentional.

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02:14:29,080 --> 02:14:30,960
Speaker 9: I'm sorry. Yeah, I want our pass across.

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02:14:31,000 --> 02:14:31,120
Speaker 4: Now.

2414
02:14:31,120 --> 02:14:32,600
Speaker 9: I don't how at contact you.

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02:14:33,480 --> 02:14:36,240
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I hold that thought. Right now,

2416
02:14:37,960 --> 02:14:39,960
Speaker 1: We'll put you on hold and Kevin will take you

2417
02:14:39,960 --> 02:14:42,880
Speaker 1: in on my passion on to doctor doctor Anthony. But

2418
02:14:43,200 --> 02:14:51,560
Speaker 1: doctor question, all right, all right, doctor Jason ed yourself

2419
02:14:51,600 --> 02:14:54,760
Speaker 1: and Tario both clinicians. Is it some point that because

2420
02:14:54,760 --> 02:14:57,400
Speaker 1: you're hearing all these all the problems of people coming

2421
02:14:57,440 --> 02:14:59,320
Speaker 1: to you on a daily basis, do you guys need

2422
02:14:59,400 --> 02:15:01,160
Speaker 1: to see it a therapist? Yourself?

2423
02:15:01,560 --> 02:15:01,600
Speaker 5: You?

2424
02:15:03,120 --> 02:15:06,240
Speaker 9: Yeah, the running I guess I wotn't call a joke

2425
02:15:06,320 --> 02:15:10,840
Speaker 9: is it's serious. But every therapist needs a therapist. And uh,

2426
02:15:11,080 --> 02:15:14,200
Speaker 9: I mean yeah, I've gone down that road and got

2427
02:15:14,240 --> 02:15:18,440
Speaker 9: into that just to talk because everything we discussed is

2428
02:15:18,520 --> 02:15:21,880
Speaker 9: confidential and private, and you know, we can't talk to

2429
02:15:22,040 --> 02:15:26,280
Speaker 9: our significant others or you know, about things, and so

2430
02:15:26,400 --> 02:15:28,800
Speaker 9: it's it is difficult to keep all that stuff in.

2431
02:15:28,920 --> 02:15:31,880
Speaker 9: You gotta gotta have an outlet. So it is helpful

2432
02:15:31,920 --> 02:15:35,360
Speaker 9: for a clinician to to to talk to clinicians. Not mandatory,

2433
02:15:35,520 --> 02:15:39,840
Speaker 9: but it doesn't hurt, and I think it is beneficial, all.

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02:15:39,800 --> 02:15:41,760
Speaker 1: Right, ate away from the tough airs I mentioned Professor

2435
02:15:41,760 --> 02:15:44,920
Speaker 1: griffs on dec I know his music was probably part

2436
02:15:44,920 --> 02:15:49,960
Speaker 1: of your generation growing up. He's gonna talk about to

2437
02:15:50,040 --> 02:15:52,880
Speaker 1: listen to this one. Yeah, he's gonna talk about hip

2438
02:15:52,920 --> 02:15:56,600
Speaker 1: hop keep out wrapping artists like Nicki Minaj, shaping the

2439
02:15:56,640 --> 02:15:59,680
Speaker 1: minds by young people. Is that a correct assumption?

2440
02:16:01,600 --> 02:16:04,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean yeah, these the celebrities, they definitely have

2441
02:16:04,240 --> 02:16:06,520
Speaker 9: the power over our young people. They influence them. They

2442
02:16:07,440 --> 02:16:09,760
Speaker 9: they dress like them, they emulate them, they talk like them,

2443
02:16:09,800 --> 02:16:12,800
Speaker 9: and yeah, they's huge influence. Absolutely.

2444
02:16:13,760 --> 02:16:16,120
Speaker 1: So do you think what what the I want to

2445
02:16:16,160 --> 02:16:19,440
Speaker 1: call a stunt, but the reversal or or the one

2446
02:16:19,520 --> 02:16:22,440
Speaker 1: eighty that Nick and Minaj pulled. You think of the

2447
02:16:22,520 --> 02:16:25,240
Speaker 1: people that the young people who enjoy her music and

2448
02:16:25,480 --> 02:16:26,720
Speaker 1: look up to it, do you think they got to

2449
02:16:26,760 --> 02:16:29,800
Speaker 1: follow her down that path to the right side of

2450
02:16:29,840 --> 02:16:30,839
Speaker 1: the political spectrum.

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02:16:32,200 --> 02:16:34,840
Speaker 9: I don't know. I mean, so far, the answer is no.

2452
02:16:35,280 --> 02:16:38,480
Speaker 9: As I heard, she lost all pretty much all the

2453
02:16:38,560 --> 02:16:41,240
Speaker 9: followers and people are not really But I don't know

2454
02:16:41,320 --> 02:16:44,840
Speaker 9: that that's something that political To join a political movement,

2455
02:16:45,040 --> 02:16:49,440
Speaker 9: you know, you're basically setting the table and a lot

2456
02:16:49,480 --> 02:16:52,960
Speaker 9: of individuals will look at that as a hard no

2457
02:16:53,200 --> 02:16:57,480
Speaker 9: for me. So it is a very touchy subject. I

2458
02:16:57,520 --> 02:16:59,640
Speaker 9: don't know what she's planning to do. I'm sure there's

2459
02:16:59,680 --> 02:17:05,360
Speaker 9: some monetary gaining it for her, and uh yeah, we'll

2460
02:17:05,360 --> 02:17:06,920
Speaker 9: see how it plays out. But it was kind of

2461
02:17:06,959 --> 02:17:09,320
Speaker 9: shocking to hear that, and I'm just like, oh, well,

2462
02:17:09,360 --> 02:17:10,960
Speaker 9: I mean, what do you expect from these individuals?

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02:17:12,000 --> 02:17:12,040
Speaker 4: This?

2464
02:17:12,240 --> 02:17:13,000
Speaker 3: This This is what they do.

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02:17:13,200 --> 02:17:16,360
Speaker 9: They they look for moments to get back in the

2466
02:17:16,400 --> 02:17:17,440
Speaker 9: spotlight and be relevant.

2467
02:17:17,879 --> 02:17:19,039
Speaker 7: So yeah, but the.

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02:17:20,720 --> 02:17:24,040
Speaker 1: The the adulation that our young people have for it.

2469
02:17:24,440 --> 02:17:27,879
Speaker 1: For this group, you know, I'm pre rap generation. I'm

2470
02:17:27,879 --> 02:17:30,520
Speaker 1: aged out when it comes to the rappers and the

2471
02:17:30,879 --> 02:17:33,119
Speaker 1: the music I can't recall. I don't even know any

2472
02:17:33,200 --> 02:17:36,360
Speaker 1: song that that h Nicki Minaja stuff. But that's beside

2473
02:17:36,400 --> 02:17:38,920
Speaker 1: the point. But the people who enjoy the music, who

2474
02:17:39,000 --> 02:17:43,760
Speaker 1: follow her, they seem to be or into the music,

2475
02:17:43,840 --> 02:17:46,879
Speaker 1: and I guess it's uh Griff will talk about they

2476
02:17:46,920 --> 02:17:49,760
Speaker 1: seem to be all in music of my generation. You know,

2477
02:17:49,800 --> 02:17:51,280
Speaker 1: it was just music. It was just music. It was

2478
02:17:51,320 --> 02:17:54,960
Speaker 1: just pleasant. But we weren't all into the uh, into

2479
02:17:55,040 --> 02:17:57,520
Speaker 1: the artist and what they're doing. We just dug the

2480
02:17:57,680 --> 02:17:59,520
Speaker 1: music and then that was that was But she was like,

2481
02:17:59,720 --> 02:18:02,440
Speaker 1: these do people want to live through them vicariously what

2482
02:18:03,240 --> 02:18:05,880
Speaker 1: they act? Are you getting that in your sessions when

2483
02:18:05,959 --> 02:18:06,879
Speaker 1: you speak to young people?

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02:18:08,080 --> 02:18:10,440
Speaker 9: Yeah, And that's the impact of social media. That's exactly

2485
02:18:10,480 --> 02:18:14,240
Speaker 9: what it's doing. It's given it's personalizing these individuals. It's

2486
02:18:14,320 --> 02:18:17,560
Speaker 9: making them attractive, like who are they versus what's up

2487
02:18:17,560 --> 02:18:20,520
Speaker 9: of their music? So yeah, no, absolutely, it's uh, they

2488
02:18:20,600 --> 02:18:22,920
Speaker 9: idolize them. And these young folks come in here and

2489
02:18:22,959 --> 02:18:25,320
Speaker 9: they've been naming people. I have no idea half of

2490
02:18:25,360 --> 02:18:28,560
Speaker 9: the names of these rappers nowadays they all kind of

2491
02:18:28,600 --> 02:18:32,480
Speaker 9: fund alight. I know that, But yeah, it's just amazing

2492
02:18:32,600 --> 02:18:35,520
Speaker 9: how much they know about their lives. They sit there

2493
02:18:35,520 --> 02:18:38,400
Speaker 9: and watch their their their shorts and their videos, and

2494
02:18:38,440 --> 02:18:42,960
Speaker 9: there's they're so entrenched into the lives that they're selling,

2495
02:18:43,120 --> 02:18:45,119
Speaker 9: you know. So I've been a lot of celebrities. I've

2496
02:18:45,520 --> 02:18:48,039
Speaker 9: been in that music industry is to do music.

2497
02:18:47,920 --> 02:18:48,480
Speaker 4: Back in the day.

2498
02:18:48,640 --> 02:18:51,840
Speaker 9: So I see how people are and how they are

2499
02:18:51,879 --> 02:18:54,200
Speaker 9: in front of the camera, and if they really knew,

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02:18:54,480 --> 02:18:56,800
Speaker 9: you know, what's going on with most of these individuals,

2501
02:18:57,600 --> 02:19:00,200
Speaker 9: they wouldn't be that drawn in. But remember, they're just

2502
02:19:00,240 --> 02:19:03,440
Speaker 9: seeing that clip. They're seeing that lifestyle. They're seeing the

2503
02:19:04,480 --> 02:19:06,600
Speaker 9: benefits and and the wealth and all that. You know,

2504
02:19:06,720 --> 02:19:08,680
Speaker 9: that's that's what they're seeing, but they're not really seeing

2505
02:19:09,280 --> 02:19:10,440
Speaker 9: all that other stuff behind it.

2506
02:19:11,400 --> 02:19:13,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, on the other side to five away from the

2507
02:19:13,280 --> 02:19:19,800
Speaker 1: top of I doc the Basketball Wives, Real Housewives of

2508
02:19:19,920 --> 02:19:22,480
Speaker 1: this and that city. It seems like a lot of

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02:19:22,560 --> 02:19:25,040
Speaker 1: our young people they gravitate your stuff like this.

2510
02:19:25,200 --> 02:19:30,160
Speaker 9: So why so, I guess it's uh, you know, uh,

2511
02:19:30,440 --> 02:19:35,959
Speaker 9: you know, we're loud, we're colorful, and we're energetic, and.

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02:19:37,760 --> 02:19:38,320
Speaker 4: That sells.

2513
02:19:38,480 --> 02:19:41,440
Speaker 9: I mean, we're we're unlike any people on this planet.

2514
02:19:41,520 --> 02:19:43,400
Speaker 9: So I think that is a part of it, that

2515
02:19:44,080 --> 02:19:49,240
Speaker 9: that that type of you know, reality show or entertainment

2516
02:19:49,360 --> 02:19:53,240
Speaker 9: is appealing, but you know, I think it also looked

2517
02:19:53,240 --> 02:19:57,040
Speaker 9: at the negative nature of the stereotypes that we have

2518
02:19:57,360 --> 02:19:59,640
Speaker 9: about our people and just you know, the way we

2519
02:19:59,760 --> 02:20:02,720
Speaker 9: do things is the way we handle business, and it

2520
02:20:02,800 --> 02:20:05,720
Speaker 9: can get very sloppy. That's not all. That's not always true.

2521
02:20:05,800 --> 02:20:08,480
Speaker 9: But I think there is a draw to those shows,

2522
02:20:08,840 --> 02:20:13,040
Speaker 9: but we know they're not reality. I hate to upset

2523
02:20:13,040 --> 02:20:16,800
Speaker 9: every producer out there, but you know, because it's descripted

2524
02:20:18,000 --> 02:20:21,880
Speaker 9: a head of descripted okay, and that's the reality of it.

2525
02:20:21,959 --> 02:20:23,880
Speaker 9: But we don't we don't care like some people just

2526
02:20:23,920 --> 02:20:25,880
Speaker 9: don't care. They just they'll they'll buy into it, and

2527
02:20:26,640 --> 02:20:29,240
Speaker 9: you know, it becomes part of the conversations that work

2528
02:20:29,320 --> 02:20:30,440
Speaker 9: and with their friends.

2529
02:20:30,520 --> 02:20:35,680
Speaker 1: So I know that's all right there, Doctor Jason Antees,

2530
02:20:35,720 --> 02:20:39,240
Speaker 1: I guess that's a clinician. He's a therapist, he's a counselor.

2531
02:20:39,280 --> 02:20:41,240
Speaker 1: You got a question about any of those issues, family

2532
02:20:41,280 --> 02:20:42,800
Speaker 1: reach out to us at eight hundred and four or

2533
02:20:42,840 --> 02:20:45,960
Speaker 1: five zero seventy eight seventy six. And my question is

2534
02:20:46,080 --> 02:20:49,080
Speaker 1: why do we see so why is it so important?

2535
02:20:49,080 --> 02:20:51,080
Speaker 1: Is there something that we're missing in us as a

2536
02:20:51,200 --> 02:20:53,959
Speaker 1: people or the people who like these kind of reality

2537
02:20:54,000 --> 02:20:57,600
Speaker 1: shows that why they why they why they love them

2538
02:20:57,640 --> 02:20:59,520
Speaker 1: so much? Is it something missing in their lives? If

2539
02:20:59,560 --> 02:21:01,400
Speaker 1: you will, and I'll let you respond when we get back.

2540
02:21:01,440 --> 02:21:03,080
Speaker 1: We've got to take a short break so our stations

2541
02:21:03,120 --> 02:21:06,120
Speaker 1: can identify themselves down the line per the s SEC family.

2542
02:21:06,200 --> 02:21:08,119
Speaker 1: You two can get in our conversation with our guest,

2543
02:21:08,360 --> 02:21:10,680
Speaker 1: doctor Jason Anthony, reach out to us eight hundred and

2544
02:21:10,680 --> 02:21:13,360
Speaker 1: four five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take

2545
02:21:13,360 --> 02:21:17,160
Speaker 1: your phone calls next and grand Rising family, and happy

2546
02:21:17,280 --> 02:21:20,120
Speaker 1: New Year. It's New Year's Eve, and our guess is

2547
02:21:20,200 --> 02:21:24,640
Speaker 1: doctor Jason Anthony. He's a clinician, he's a therapist, a counselor.

2548
02:21:24,760 --> 02:21:26,280
Speaker 1: And coming up on deck, we're going to speak with

2549
02:21:26,360 --> 02:21:30,000
Speaker 1: Professor Griffin. As I mentioned, Professor Grison about hip hop community,

2550
02:21:30,440 --> 02:21:33,080
Speaker 1: in the rap community and artists like Nick and mas

2551
02:21:33,720 --> 02:21:35,880
Speaker 1: Minajha have been shaping the minds of our young people.

2552
02:21:35,959 --> 02:21:39,160
Speaker 1: And doctor Jason just tell us how they are shaping

2553
02:21:39,200 --> 02:21:42,600
Speaker 1: their minds, and I guess we'll Professor Griffill tell if

2554
02:21:42,600 --> 02:21:48,000
Speaker 1: it's intentional, how can they distinguish it? In the Doctor Jason,

2555
02:21:48,040 --> 02:21:50,120
Speaker 1: how can these things from what's real? And what's not

2556
02:21:50,480 --> 02:21:52,680
Speaker 1: How can we share that with our young people?

2557
02:21:54,640 --> 02:21:58,640
Speaker 9: They need, they need to have the guidance from their parents,

2558
02:21:59,360 --> 02:22:04,560
Speaker 9: you know, mentors, just individuals who can assist and you know,

2559
02:22:04,680 --> 02:22:06,280
Speaker 9: keeping it real with them and just let them, let

2560
02:22:06,320 --> 02:22:09,800
Speaker 9: them know that a lot of this is about salesmanship,

2561
02:22:09,879 --> 02:22:13,400
Speaker 9: it's about ratings, it's to pull you in. But there's

2562
02:22:13,760 --> 02:22:17,880
Speaker 9: another part of it that we don't see. I know,

2563
02:22:17,959 --> 02:22:21,360
Speaker 9: we're talking about the reality show and just why are

2564
02:22:21,440 --> 02:22:24,280
Speaker 9: they so successful? And I mean, I think honestly, we've

2565
02:22:24,280 --> 02:22:26,760
Speaker 9: got to be very mindful of what's happening with these

2566
02:22:26,840 --> 02:22:29,480
Speaker 9: reality shows. First of all, it's you know, we see

2567
02:22:29,520 --> 02:22:31,560
Speaker 9: the success, we see the wealth, we see the riches,

2568
02:22:31,600 --> 02:22:35,720
Speaker 9: which is a learning right. We like to see people

2569
02:22:35,840 --> 02:22:38,480
Speaker 9: moving in that space. But the danger of it is

2570
02:22:38,720 --> 02:22:42,120
Speaker 9: is that now you take people who have at least

2571
02:22:42,200 --> 02:22:44,480
Speaker 9: you appears to have wealth, and then you have them

2572
02:22:44,560 --> 02:22:47,000
Speaker 9: fighting and acting up. What kind of message are you

2573
02:22:47,120 --> 02:22:49,760
Speaker 9: sending to the masters? Well, the messages can be read

2574
02:22:49,959 --> 02:22:52,240
Speaker 9: read like this. It's no matter how much money they have,

2575
02:22:52,360 --> 02:22:55,640
Speaker 9: they still act like this. This is their behavior, the

2576
02:22:55,920 --> 02:22:59,160
Speaker 9: fighting and just you know, one minute y'all best friends,

2577
02:22:59,240 --> 02:23:01,520
Speaker 9: next minute you're sleeping with your man in and you're

2578
02:23:01,560 --> 02:23:04,440
Speaker 9: fighting in a restaurant or awarding each other's face. So

2579
02:23:04,720 --> 02:23:08,200
Speaker 9: it's the messages that are being sent out. They're subliminal,

2580
02:23:08,360 --> 02:23:10,959
Speaker 9: but they're powerful. And of course most of these producers

2581
02:23:11,000 --> 02:23:14,720
Speaker 9: and directors are not black that are running these black shows.

2582
02:23:14,760 --> 02:23:16,320
Speaker 9: I was on the reality show, but I was on

2583
02:23:16,640 --> 02:23:21,040
Speaker 9: the show before ninety put out. Then I saw a

2584
02:23:21,120 --> 02:23:22,800
Speaker 9: lot of things. You know, I was like, Oh, this

2585
02:23:23,000 --> 02:23:25,280
Speaker 9: this is how y'all do it? Okay, So, you know,

2586
02:23:25,440 --> 02:23:27,840
Speaker 9: being having that experience definitely has made me look at

2587
02:23:28,640 --> 02:23:31,320
Speaker 9: these reality shows, so called reality shows in a whole

2588
02:23:31,360 --> 02:23:31,800
Speaker 9: different light.

2589
02:23:33,320 --> 02:23:35,120
Speaker 1: So were you a consultant on the show? You shaid

2590
02:23:35,320 --> 02:23:36,840
Speaker 1: on the show? Or you were a participant?

2591
02:23:37,000 --> 02:23:37,120
Speaker 10: Oh?

2592
02:23:37,320 --> 02:23:41,240
Speaker 9: Man, I didn't want to say that, but yeah, I was.

2593
02:23:41,480 --> 02:23:42,520
Speaker 9: I was one of the therapists.

2594
02:23:43,160 --> 02:23:43,520
Speaker 4: Ninety eight.

2595
02:23:44,000 --> 02:23:47,080
Speaker 9: Last Resort is a show on a couple of years

2596
02:23:47,080 --> 02:23:50,440
Speaker 9: ago KLC, and it was it was a spin off.

2597
02:23:50,560 --> 02:23:53,000
Speaker 9: It was the first of a new series called The

2598
02:23:53,080 --> 02:23:55,080
Speaker 9: Last Resort, and I was picked to be one of

2599
02:23:55,160 --> 02:23:56,640
Speaker 9: the therapists on the show.

2600
02:23:56,760 --> 02:23:56,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2601
02:23:56,959 --> 02:23:59,080
Speaker 1: But I think the key part, as you said, it's

2602
02:23:59,120 --> 02:24:02,120
Speaker 1: scripted because our people they call it reality shows, and

2603
02:24:02,160 --> 02:24:02,800
Speaker 1: they think it's real.

2604
02:24:04,920 --> 02:24:09,040
Speaker 9: The people are real the issues food and the drinks,

2605
02:24:09,120 --> 02:24:12,520
Speaker 9: and I don't know about the issues. I mean, you

2606
02:24:12,600 --> 02:24:15,080
Speaker 9: know a lot of those things are sometimes. I mean,

2607
02:24:15,800 --> 02:24:18,480
Speaker 9: it's real in the moment sometimes because when you get

2608
02:24:18,640 --> 02:24:21,120
Speaker 9: angry and you let emotions take over, is real at

2609
02:24:21,120 --> 02:24:24,879
Speaker 9: that point, regardless of what's happening. So you know, I'm

2610
02:24:24,920 --> 02:24:27,200
Speaker 9: not gonna say it's it's all. You know, there are

2611
02:24:27,240 --> 02:24:30,400
Speaker 9: some moments that are captured that are raw, organic, But

2612
02:24:30,680 --> 02:24:34,720
Speaker 9: I know that there's a lot of producers and they're

2613
02:24:34,760 --> 02:24:36,360
Speaker 9: they're gonna, they're gonna get what they want.

2614
02:24:37,680 --> 02:24:41,320
Speaker 1: Gotcha, all right, we're going past the baton, Professor Griff.

2615
02:24:41,360 --> 02:24:43,680
Speaker 1: Before we do that, though, Doctor Jason Anthony, how can

2616
02:24:43,720 --> 02:24:46,039
Speaker 1: folks reach you? Because, as you mentioned this a dearth

2617
02:24:46,080 --> 02:24:50,920
Speaker 1: of black specialists in your profession. People have problems, they

2618
02:24:50,959 --> 02:24:53,200
Speaker 1: need to speak to someone, and you know, I think

2619
02:24:53,280 --> 02:24:56,360
Speaker 1: one of the callers mentioned that the lacking of black

2620
02:24:56,440 --> 02:24:58,960
Speaker 1: especially male black therapists. How can they reach you?

2621
02:24:59,240 --> 02:25:05,320
Speaker 9: Yeah, you can first reach out eight eight seven seven

2622
02:25:05,560 --> 02:25:09,120
Speaker 9: edify edifies the name of the counseling practice I founded.

2623
02:25:09,240 --> 02:25:12,440
Speaker 9: Right now, we have about six licensed clinicians on board,

2624
02:25:12,560 --> 02:25:15,960
Speaker 9: a bunch of interns staff, and right now we're just

2625
02:25:16,000 --> 02:25:19,279
Speaker 9: really trying to grow, but you can also edify. Counseling

2626
02:25:19,360 --> 02:25:22,960
Speaker 9: dot com is the website, you know. I g at

2627
02:25:23,040 --> 02:25:26,880
Speaker 9: doctor Jason Anthony uh, and that's that's pretty much the

2628
02:25:26,920 --> 02:25:29,880
Speaker 9: best way to reach out. But please reach out. I'm

2629
02:25:29,959 --> 02:25:34,120
Speaker 9: in Florida obviously, but I have connections and poinians all

2630
02:25:34,200 --> 02:25:36,640
Speaker 9: over that you know, could assist you in anything that

2631
02:25:36,720 --> 02:25:39,360
Speaker 9: you're going through if you just just need to connect

2632
02:25:39,400 --> 02:25:44,760
Speaker 9: on another level. Yeah, please reach out and happy Yeah.

2633
02:25:44,680 --> 02:25:48,520
Speaker 1: Sah, Doctor Jason. We've got towers number for you. Kevin's

2634
02:25:48,520 --> 02:25:50,920
Speaker 1: going to give you that number. Six. After the top

2635
02:25:50,959 --> 02:25:53,400
Speaker 1: of the family, it's welcome to Professor griff to the program.

2636
02:25:53,640 --> 02:25:56,760
Speaker 1: Grand rising, Professor griff A Barighani.

2637
02:25:56,200 --> 02:26:00,560
Speaker 7: Sir Oti, so greedy and grand riting to you.

2638
02:26:01,520 --> 02:26:02,320
Speaker 3: How you feel good, bro?

2639
02:26:03,200 --> 02:26:06,120
Speaker 1: I'm still learning, man, I'm just today it's been another

2640
02:26:06,200 --> 02:26:08,040
Speaker 1: exceptional day for some of the folks that were gone.

2641
02:26:08,080 --> 02:26:09,400
Speaker 1: I know I'm going to learn some stuff from you

2642
02:26:09,480 --> 02:26:13,240
Speaker 1: as well. But you know, I want you to help

2643
02:26:13,320 --> 02:26:16,040
Speaker 1: us here, Professor Griffin, because we saw what's happening in

2644
02:26:16,120 --> 02:26:19,240
Speaker 1: the We're just like kind of spectators of this in

2645
02:26:19,320 --> 02:26:22,160
Speaker 1: the hip hop rap world, you know, because you that's

2646
02:26:22,200 --> 02:26:23,640
Speaker 1: the world you live in and one of the things

2647
02:26:23,640 --> 02:26:26,280
Speaker 1: I like about you you cover all genres of music.

2648
02:26:26,360 --> 02:26:28,600
Speaker 1: You know, some folks can only talk about because they

2649
02:26:29,040 --> 02:26:31,120
Speaker 1: know gospel, they're going to talk about gospel. They know

2650
02:26:32,280 --> 02:26:34,920
Speaker 1: the rap or regular they can only stay in that lane.

2651
02:26:35,000 --> 02:26:37,000
Speaker 1: But you know all of the music. And that's one

2652
02:26:37,000 --> 02:26:38,800
Speaker 1: of the reasons why we like to have you on

2653
02:26:39,000 --> 02:26:41,760
Speaker 1: have this discussion. Especially we're just finished speaking with a

2654
02:26:41,840 --> 02:26:45,359
Speaker 1: therapist about a young people how they sort of gravitate

2655
02:26:45,640 --> 02:26:49,080
Speaker 1: to some of these some of the artists you see,

2656
02:26:49,600 --> 02:26:51,560
Speaker 1: and they think it's real. They think their lies are

2657
02:26:51,600 --> 02:26:53,600
Speaker 1: really and they try to live that out life out

2658
02:26:53,680 --> 02:26:55,480
Speaker 1: in real life because they think they would want to

2659
02:26:55,560 --> 02:26:59,640
Speaker 1: be like them. But help us out. The doctor just

2660
02:26:59,720 --> 02:27:01,600
Speaker 1: told us there's a lot of this reality people is

2661
02:27:01,640 --> 02:27:05,240
Speaker 1: scripted when it comes to the artists, though, is that

2662
02:27:05,520 --> 02:27:08,880
Speaker 1: if they managed in that way, are their managers or

2663
02:27:08,959 --> 02:27:11,600
Speaker 1: the record labels telling them what to do or is

2664
02:27:11,680 --> 02:27:13,280
Speaker 1: it organic? Is it just happens?

2665
02:27:15,480 --> 02:27:17,280
Speaker 11: Well, let me say it like this.

2666
02:27:17,560 --> 02:27:21,640
Speaker 7: Today is the thirty first and when we're talking about

2667
02:27:21,680 --> 02:27:25,160
Speaker 7: the idea of what today represents for us as a people,

2668
02:27:25,280 --> 02:27:28,600
Speaker 7: which is creativity, which is Koumba, and then Gruza Saba,

2669
02:27:29,879 --> 02:27:33,480
Speaker 7: the seven principles of Kwanza. If we're talking about being creative,

2670
02:27:34,120 --> 02:27:37,200
Speaker 7: the idea of what you just spoke, the question that

2671
02:27:37,360 --> 02:27:39,880
Speaker 7: the idea of what you built into the question, the

2672
02:27:39,959 --> 02:27:42,600
Speaker 7: idea of its whether or not it's organic. It's a

2673
02:27:42,640 --> 02:27:45,840
Speaker 7: beautiful thing when it is, and it is. A lot

2674
02:27:45,920 --> 02:27:48,040
Speaker 7: of the artists come to these labels and come to

2675
02:27:48,160 --> 02:27:53,840
Speaker 7: these managers and production companies with the organic energy five

2676
02:27:54,040 --> 02:27:56,280
Speaker 7: they want to be in the music industry and for

2677
02:27:56,400 --> 02:28:01,360
Speaker 7: all the other reasons. But once they fall into the system,

2678
02:28:02,120 --> 02:28:07,800
Speaker 7: the music business system and the industry, then and only

2679
02:28:07,920 --> 02:28:10,640
Speaker 7: then when it becomes a serious, serious problem, because if

2680
02:28:10,640 --> 02:28:13,360
Speaker 7: they don't take the mold and the agenda of the

2681
02:28:13,600 --> 02:28:18,039
Speaker 7: overall objective of what the record company has to offer,

2682
02:28:18,840 --> 02:28:21,640
Speaker 7: then they either put you on the shelf, ostracize you,

2683
02:28:22,680 --> 02:28:26,240
Speaker 7: or plan to destroy your career. I read that the

2684
02:28:26,320 --> 02:28:29,600
Speaker 7: other day with the tennis player what is the name Golf?

2685
02:28:31,160 --> 02:28:36,560
Speaker 7: And she was basically voicing her experience, telling us about

2686
02:28:36,600 --> 02:28:40,080
Speaker 7: her spirit in the tennis world, the sports world, and

2687
02:28:40,200 --> 02:28:43,680
Speaker 7: the same kind of thing parallels in the music industry.

2688
02:28:43,760 --> 02:28:47,039
Speaker 7: If you do not follow the script and the ejective

2689
02:28:47,040 --> 02:28:49,080
Speaker 7: that they have set out for you, regardless of what

2690
02:28:49,200 --> 02:28:52,440
Speaker 7: your individual goals are then yeah, they make it very

2691
02:28:52,560 --> 02:28:55,920
Speaker 7: very very very difficult. And it is at this point

2692
02:28:56,720 --> 02:28:59,800
Speaker 7: and we're feeling that and seeing that with young artists

2693
02:28:59,840 --> 02:29:02,320
Speaker 7: that are coming up that you listened to them a

2694
02:29:02,400 --> 02:29:05,359
Speaker 7: few years back. They were very innocent and very organic.

2695
02:29:06,120 --> 02:29:09,360
Speaker 7: Now you see them, they've become someone that they don't

2696
02:29:09,400 --> 02:29:14,320
Speaker 7: even like because of the industry. And do I think

2697
02:29:14,560 --> 02:29:17,400
Speaker 7: a lot aspects of this prescripted? Yes, of course it is.

2698
02:29:18,400 --> 02:29:21,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I read an artist I can't think of

2699
02:29:21,040 --> 02:29:23,840
Speaker 1: her name right, a young lady and she and the

2700
02:29:23,920 --> 02:29:27,600
Speaker 1: producer came to any very successful producer of informations, damn

2701
02:29:27,600 --> 02:29:29,880
Speaker 1: you all known, and he told her he liked it

2702
02:29:29,959 --> 02:29:32,720
Speaker 1: for she's great, but she's not hood enough for you know.

2703
02:29:32,879 --> 02:29:35,520
Speaker 1: He thinks that she could be more hoodlike, if you

2704
02:29:35,560 --> 02:29:39,280
Speaker 1: will whatever that is, she could be a huge success.

2705
02:29:39,959 --> 02:29:42,879
Speaker 1: Is that commonplace in the music industry with.

2706
02:29:44,959 --> 02:29:46,120
Speaker 11: At the present moment?

2707
02:29:46,800 --> 02:29:49,000
Speaker 7: And I could say roll this back maybe ten to

2708
02:29:49,040 --> 02:29:54,560
Speaker 7: fifteen years, that is commonplace simply because they meet you,

2709
02:29:54,680 --> 02:29:56,880
Speaker 7: they see you, they see what you're trying to do,

2710
02:29:57,760 --> 02:30:01,760
Speaker 7: but they have certain slots to fill. Nicki Minaj is

2711
02:30:01,800 --> 02:30:05,040
Speaker 7: in the long line women that came on that uh

2712
02:30:05,480 --> 02:30:08,920
Speaker 7: that music industry conveyor belt that they needed to mold

2713
02:30:09,000 --> 02:30:12,280
Speaker 7: and shape to fit an agenda. Do you understand I'm saying, if.

2714
02:30:12,200 --> 02:30:12,720
Speaker 11: You roll your.

2715
02:30:14,240 --> 02:30:18,119
Speaker 7: Hip hop musical rap experience back a few years, Nicki

2716
02:30:18,160 --> 02:30:21,240
Speaker 7: Minaj was not this person. We're talking about the Nicki

2717
02:30:21,320 --> 02:30:26,600
Speaker 7: Minaj prior to the body augmentations and the fixing this

2718
02:30:26,800 --> 02:30:31,040
Speaker 7: and becoming the black Barbie doll and having barbs and

2719
02:30:31,120 --> 02:30:34,320
Speaker 7: all this other kind of stuff, the manufactured beefs that

2720
02:30:34,520 --> 02:30:38,920
Speaker 7: record labels create and your manufacture with either other artists

2721
02:30:39,040 --> 02:30:42,000
Speaker 7: or some kind of agenda. So when we look at

2722
02:30:42,040 --> 02:30:46,280
Speaker 7: it now, what she's doing now fits their agenda. They

2723
02:30:46,400 --> 02:30:49,040
Speaker 7: need to foster the conflict in this region. What do

2724
02:30:49,160 --> 02:30:50,840
Speaker 7: we do We get the hearts and minds of young

2725
02:30:50,920 --> 02:30:54,840
Speaker 7: people by taking one of their rap artists and pushing

2726
02:30:54,920 --> 02:30:57,360
Speaker 7: them out in front and giving them the agenda, the

2727
02:30:57,440 --> 02:30:59,600
Speaker 7: talking points. And we witnessed that with her.

2728
02:31:01,480 --> 02:31:03,800
Speaker 1: So you're saying, this is all scripted, this is all planned.

2729
02:31:05,080 --> 02:31:07,640
Speaker 7: I wouldn't say all. We would we would be doing

2730
02:31:07,720 --> 02:31:11,840
Speaker 7: ourselves and our artists and ourselves are disfavored if we

2731
02:31:12,000 --> 02:31:16,039
Speaker 7: say all. I think some artists that are out there

2732
02:31:16,080 --> 02:31:19,280
Speaker 7: that are putting back and fighting back and actually telling

2733
02:31:19,360 --> 02:31:22,640
Speaker 7: the truth. You know, you might run across a Chance

2734
02:31:22,720 --> 02:31:25,360
Speaker 7: Opper or someone like that that might speak up and out,

2735
02:31:25,560 --> 02:31:28,960
Speaker 7: or Tyler the Creator or one of these guys that

2736
02:31:29,120 --> 02:31:31,800
Speaker 7: might speak up and out about it. But they they

2737
02:31:31,959 --> 02:31:36,080
Speaker 7: the visibility is low when it comes compared to a

2738
02:31:36,160 --> 02:31:39,080
Speaker 7: Nicki Minaj and some of these other artists. They don't

2739
02:31:39,080 --> 02:31:43,360
Speaker 7: get much media play or media coverage. And that's just

2740
02:31:43,720 --> 02:31:44,680
Speaker 7: that's just a reality.

2741
02:31:46,200 --> 02:31:48,400
Speaker 1: Twelve after Tavi Family on this New year. See, you're

2742
02:31:48,400 --> 02:31:51,720
Speaker 1: speaking of a Professor Griffully, Ministertive information for public Enemy,

2743
02:31:51,720 --> 02:31:54,680
Speaker 1: and we're talking about you know how the music industry,

2744
02:31:54,760 --> 02:31:57,360
Speaker 1: today's music industry, the hip hop or rap music and

2745
02:31:57,560 --> 02:32:01,440
Speaker 1: artists like Nicki Manad being used to shape the minds

2746
02:32:01,440 --> 02:32:03,640
Speaker 1: of our young people. How are they doing that?

2747
02:32:06,080 --> 02:32:08,720
Speaker 7: I think they're doing that by already having a built

2748
02:32:08,800 --> 02:32:12,240
Speaker 7: and template in the music industry. If they're coming into

2749
02:32:12,320 --> 02:32:16,520
Speaker 7: the music industry, if you're not fitting the mole of

2750
02:32:16,600 --> 02:32:21,000
Speaker 7: the last defigies of what the music industry has the offer.

2751
02:32:21,040 --> 02:32:23,199
Speaker 7: Because if you really look at the industry, music industry

2752
02:32:23,200 --> 02:32:25,480
Speaker 7: as a whole, and you take two steps back, you

2753
02:32:25,560 --> 02:32:29,600
Speaker 7: will see that financially it's on a decline for the artists.

2754
02:32:29,720 --> 02:32:34,040
Speaker 7: I'm not saying the labels. I'm not saying the streaming platforms.

2755
02:32:34,320 --> 02:32:37,480
Speaker 7: It's on a decline for and has been for a

2756
02:32:37,520 --> 02:32:40,760
Speaker 7: few years now for the artists, simply because there's a

2757
02:32:40,879 --> 02:32:44,000
Speaker 7: shift going on in the music industry. We went from

2758
02:32:44,040 --> 02:32:48,560
Speaker 7: analog to digital. Now we're going from digital to a

2759
02:32:48,680 --> 02:32:54,000
Speaker 7: whole new different realm. As far as labels now having

2760
02:32:54,080 --> 02:32:58,760
Speaker 7: to take old models and revamp them into a model

2761
02:32:58,800 --> 02:33:01,720
Speaker 7: that they have yet to catch because it's not complete yet.

2762
02:33:02,280 --> 02:33:04,560
Speaker 7: So the artists are trying to sit into a model

2763
02:33:04,879 --> 02:33:08,560
Speaker 7: that hasn't been perfected yet, and most artists are getting

2764
02:33:08,640 --> 02:33:13,600
Speaker 7: lost in these new models. They're just now catching up

2765
02:33:13,600 --> 02:33:15,240
Speaker 7: with the old model. Let me give you an example.

2766
02:33:15,720 --> 02:33:18,480
Speaker 7: For you to do a long form video which might

2767
02:33:18,560 --> 02:33:21,959
Speaker 7: cost you ten thousand dollars today, it's actually a waste

2768
02:33:21,959 --> 02:33:25,280
Speaker 7: of your time and money. If the music industry is

2769
02:33:25,440 --> 02:33:31,240
Speaker 7: moving towards vertical presentation in reference to sending short clips

2770
02:33:31,360 --> 02:33:35,080
Speaker 7: and reels to your cell phone, why would you produce

2771
02:33:35,120 --> 02:33:38,240
Speaker 7: a fifty thousand dollars video to be played somewhere and

2772
02:33:38,400 --> 02:33:41,080
Speaker 7: those places that you would watch them no longer exist,

2773
02:33:41,879 --> 02:33:43,640
Speaker 7: the one O six and parks and all this other

2774
02:33:43,680 --> 02:33:46,720
Speaker 7: stuff that doesn't exist anymore. You'd be wasting your time

2775
02:33:46,800 --> 02:33:49,240
Speaker 7: and money. You think the music industry doesn't know that. Yes,

2776
02:33:49,320 --> 02:33:52,160
Speaker 7: and they're way ahead of the game. They're going after

2777
02:33:52,240 --> 02:33:55,840
Speaker 7: young people on their cell phones. Carl. That's where the

2778
02:33:55,920 --> 02:33:58,920
Speaker 7: war's being taken place. And we're not defending young people.

2779
02:34:00,400 --> 02:34:02,880
Speaker 7: They're manusfacturing people like Nicki Minaj to be there to

2780
02:34:02,959 --> 02:34:06,040
Speaker 7: meet young people. Yes, this is why she was at

2781
02:34:06,080 --> 02:34:09,240
Speaker 7: the US embassy. This is why she's on Turning Point USA.

2782
02:34:09,640 --> 02:34:13,960
Speaker 7: This is why they're pushing this. This this narrative that

2783
02:34:14,040 --> 02:34:18,840
Speaker 7: they're manufacturing rap artists, making them political figures now. And

2784
02:34:19,000 --> 02:34:21,080
Speaker 7: she's no one for anyone to follow, because when does

2785
02:34:21,120 --> 02:34:24,200
Speaker 7: she become politicized. I don't hear it in the music.

2786
02:34:24,680 --> 02:34:27,520
Speaker 7: I don't see what's doing outside the context of her

2787
02:34:27,640 --> 02:34:32,959
Speaker 7: songs that no one really listens to anymore. I understand

2788
02:34:33,000 --> 02:34:34,160
Speaker 7: the identity politics.

2789
02:34:35,240 --> 02:34:38,000
Speaker 1: Right fourteen half of the top. Professor griff Or Larry's

2790
02:34:38,040 --> 02:34:40,720
Speaker 1: reaching out to you. He's online one. He's calling from Washington, DC.

2791
02:34:40,879 --> 02:34:44,160
Speaker 1: Grand Rising Larry. You're on with Professor griff.

2792
02:34:45,920 --> 02:34:47,880
Speaker 9: Ryan Rising, brother, can't you hear me?

2793
02:34:49,760 --> 02:34:50,240
Speaker 7: Yes, sir.

2794
02:34:51,879 --> 02:34:52,080
Speaker 5: Brother.

2795
02:34:53,240 --> 02:34:55,440
Speaker 9: I think some of our people when it comes to

2796
02:34:55,520 --> 02:35:00,840
Speaker 9: the entertainments. We sold worship and stars so much we

2797
02:35:00,959 --> 02:35:05,080
Speaker 9: have short term memories when they come up short. Do

2798
02:35:05,240 --> 02:35:11,040
Speaker 9: you remember when Nicki Minards did a satanic ritual on

2799
02:35:11,320 --> 02:35:15,280
Speaker 9: stage at the awards show, when her body raised up

2800
02:35:15,360 --> 02:35:20,320
Speaker 9: from the stage and they had all these dark demons

2801
02:35:20,360 --> 02:35:20,880
Speaker 9: around her.

2802
02:35:21,080 --> 02:35:24,360
Speaker 7: Do you remember that, brother, Yes, yes, yes, of course

2803
02:35:24,560 --> 02:35:27,039
Speaker 7: I documented that in some of my lecture, my talk

2804
02:35:27,080 --> 02:35:29,840
Speaker 7: to even in my book The Psychological Covert One Hip Hop.

2805
02:35:29,959 --> 02:35:34,200
Speaker 9: Yes, sir, continue, Okay, so you have that evil And

2806
02:35:34,280 --> 02:35:38,320
Speaker 9: then you mentioned Kyler, the creator his first couple of

2807
02:35:38,640 --> 02:35:42,800
Speaker 9: albums that he received awards for. He was promoting on

2808
02:35:43,000 --> 02:35:47,720
Speaker 9: one of his albums, Suicide, his new album that he

2809
02:35:47,879 --> 02:35:53,400
Speaker 9: has out right now. He is promoting homosexuality, telling brothers,

2810
02:35:54,040 --> 02:35:56,920
Speaker 9: just come off the closet and just be you. So

2811
02:35:58,280 --> 02:36:00,480
Speaker 9: a lot of these people you and I both know

2812
02:36:00,680 --> 02:36:05,240
Speaker 9: from your lectures, they are worshipers of the bat for me.

2813
02:36:06,280 --> 02:36:07,960
Speaker 9: And I'm gonna leave it there and let you go

2814
02:36:08,000 --> 02:36:10,560
Speaker 9: ahead and have lit that on out all right.

2815
02:36:10,600 --> 02:36:12,480
Speaker 1: I'll tell you a holy response. Professor griff We has

2816
02:36:12,520 --> 02:36:14,879
Speaker 1: step aside for a few months. I respond to Larry's questions.

2817
02:36:14,920 --> 02:36:17,160
Speaker 1: Thank you, Larry, thank you for those questions. We're going

2818
02:36:17,240 --> 02:36:19,640
Speaker 1: deep this morning with Professor Griff. You got a question

2819
02:36:19,720 --> 02:36:22,440
Speaker 1: by music, any kind of music, by the way, we

2820
02:36:22,480 --> 02:36:25,520
Speaker 1: can reach us at eight hundred four five zero seventy

2821
02:36:25,600 --> 02:36:27,920
Speaker 1: eight seventy six and we'll take your phone calls next

2822
02:36:28,080 --> 02:36:30,160
Speaker 1: and grind Rising family, thanks for staying with us on

2823
02:36:30,240 --> 02:36:32,360
Speaker 1: this New Year's Eve. I guess it's Professor Griff from

2824
02:36:32,400 --> 02:36:35,520
Speaker 1: Public Enemy And before we left, Larry from Washington, DC

2825
02:36:35,640 --> 02:36:37,120
Speaker 1: want to talk about some of the symbols and the

2826
02:36:37,200 --> 02:36:39,640
Speaker 1: rituals that take place with our young people in their music.

2827
02:36:39,680 --> 02:36:42,440
Speaker 1: And so Professor Griff and we'll get on deetail this morning,

2828
02:36:42,560 --> 02:36:44,840
Speaker 1: so I'll let you respond to Larry's questions.

2829
02:36:46,400 --> 02:36:49,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, Larry, acts give a reference to the baffle met

2830
02:36:50,080 --> 02:36:53,120
Speaker 7: something I wrote about in my book called Symbology. So

2831
02:36:53,400 --> 02:36:55,240
Speaker 7: for a peeple that just don't know that's it as

2832
02:36:55,280 --> 02:36:59,240
Speaker 7: a symbol figure that is depicted as a winged goat

2833
02:36:59,480 --> 02:37:02,480
Speaker 7: like head of human and it's like based in exo

2834
02:37:02,600 --> 02:37:06,840
Speaker 7: and esoteric symbols representing the union of opposites, duality and

2835
02:37:06,959 --> 02:37:11,199
Speaker 7: spiritual balance, which you find that in hip hop's because

2836
02:37:11,600 --> 02:37:13,880
Speaker 7: it's become part of the culture of hip hop. If

2837
02:37:13,920 --> 02:37:17,400
Speaker 7: you look at any of the artists that you may like, Eminem,

2838
02:37:17,600 --> 02:37:19,880
Speaker 7: jay Z or whomever. A lot of them have alter

2839
02:37:19,959 --> 02:37:26,120
Speaker 7: egos in different names. Beyonce, even with Nicki Minaj, I

2840
02:37:26,160 --> 02:37:30,840
Speaker 7: think her alter ego is Roman, some little small white

2841
02:37:30,879 --> 02:37:33,120
Speaker 7: guy that gives her instructured, little white boy that gives

2842
02:37:33,120 --> 02:37:37,120
Speaker 7: her instructions. And this is, uh, this is common in

2843
02:37:37,640 --> 02:37:38,040
Speaker 7: hip hop.

2844
02:37:38,120 --> 02:37:38,280
Speaker 10: Now.

2845
02:37:38,520 --> 02:37:41,160
Speaker 7: Don't know where it came from. But I do so

2846
02:37:41,280 --> 02:37:43,840
Speaker 7: much to talk about right now. But Nicki Minaj is

2847
02:37:43,879 --> 02:37:48,320
Speaker 7: hinted at speaking outside the approved talking points. So if

2848
02:37:48,320 --> 02:37:51,920
Speaker 7: we start talking about rituals, call even if we say

2849
02:37:52,040 --> 02:37:54,880
Speaker 7: on on on on the show right now, if we

2850
02:37:55,040 --> 02:37:58,240
Speaker 7: give people greetings and wish them and merry Christmas in

2851
02:37:58,320 --> 02:38:00,840
Speaker 7: a happy New Year, even if we know the deeper

2852
02:38:00,920 --> 02:38:04,840
Speaker 7: truth about these particular holidays, we might not agree with them,

2853
02:38:05,440 --> 02:38:08,120
Speaker 7: but it's the thing to do. And this is the

2854
02:38:08,200 --> 02:38:12,800
Speaker 7: same thing that happens in the music industry. It's commonplace

2855
02:38:13,080 --> 02:38:16,119
Speaker 7: to wish people a merry Christmas and a happy new Year.

2856
02:38:16,160 --> 02:38:19,200
Speaker 7: We know January first is not a new year, you

2857
02:38:19,360 --> 02:38:22,000
Speaker 7: understand I'm saying. We know it's it's really April first,

2858
02:38:22,080 --> 02:38:24,800
Speaker 7: But what do we do? We go along to get along,

2859
02:38:24,959 --> 02:38:27,520
Speaker 7: to make our lives that much easier, and the same

2860
02:38:27,600 --> 02:38:30,119
Speaker 7: thing happens in the music industry, but they have more

2861
02:38:30,200 --> 02:38:34,320
Speaker 7: to lose. They have their careers to lose and their

2862
02:38:34,400 --> 02:38:36,840
Speaker 7: lives to lose in the music industry because they will

2863
02:38:37,080 --> 02:38:40,280
Speaker 7: truly shut you down. And I'm one of those individuals

2864
02:38:40,320 --> 02:38:44,080
Speaker 7: that have lived that life experience and that experience that

2865
02:38:44,800 --> 02:38:47,760
Speaker 7: I spoke out and about the boffamant and the rituals

2866
02:38:47,800 --> 02:38:50,560
Speaker 7: that go on in the music industry. And here I

2867
02:38:50,640 --> 02:38:55,400
Speaker 7: am having to fight a uphill battle at every stop.

2868
02:38:55,760 --> 02:38:57,720
Speaker 7: And that's a very real thing. When I talked about

2869
02:38:57,800 --> 02:39:01,480
Speaker 7: John Todd, who is actually in the music industry, and

2870
02:39:01,600 --> 02:39:04,880
Speaker 7: he went over these rituals, ritual by ritual, and he

2871
02:39:05,000 --> 02:39:08,400
Speaker 7: talked about putting magic spells on people's music inside the

2872
02:39:08,440 --> 02:39:11,119
Speaker 7: frequency of the music and the vibration of the music,

2873
02:39:11,160 --> 02:39:13,320
Speaker 7: so by the time people hear it, you would fall

2874
02:39:13,400 --> 02:39:16,959
Speaker 7: into these particular spells. I talked about that, and most

2875
02:39:17,080 --> 02:39:22,120
Speaker 7: young artists listened and and and and echoed or what

2876
02:39:22,160 --> 02:39:25,160
Speaker 7: I had to say in my work, and most and

2877
02:39:25,680 --> 02:39:28,400
Speaker 7: some of them just could not fight the urge of

2878
02:39:28,520 --> 02:39:31,600
Speaker 7: being part of the music industry, in the system and

2879
02:39:31,680 --> 02:39:34,480
Speaker 7: demonic rituals that that are there waiting for us in

2880
02:39:34,520 --> 02:39:35,360
Speaker 7: the music industry.

2881
02:39:37,200 --> 02:39:39,240
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this though, these these symbols of

2882
02:39:39,320 --> 02:39:41,960
Speaker 1: these rituals that take place now with our young people

2883
02:39:41,959 --> 02:39:43,720
Speaker 1: with the music. Because you've be you can. That's why

2884
02:39:43,760 --> 02:39:45,880
Speaker 1: I like having you on, because you can discuss all

2885
02:39:45,879 --> 02:39:48,520
Speaker 1: the genres of music. Does it does it happen in gospels?

2886
02:39:48,520 --> 02:39:53,080
Speaker 1: Does it happening reggae, afropop, uh R and B so whatever?

2887
02:39:53,240 --> 02:39:55,440
Speaker 1: Does he have any other orders? It's just confined to

2888
02:39:55,840 --> 02:39:57,199
Speaker 1: the hip hop rap community.

2889
02:39:58,760 --> 02:40:00,320
Speaker 7: Well, when you when you look at the that's the

2890
02:40:00,400 --> 02:40:04,000
Speaker 7: majority of the scope of the partillar rituals. There are

2891
02:40:04,080 --> 02:40:07,560
Speaker 7: different rituals. They wouldn't use the same ritual in hip hop.

2892
02:40:07,840 --> 02:40:10,880
Speaker 7: They wouldn't use that same ritual in gospel because it's

2893
02:40:10,920 --> 02:40:14,600
Speaker 7: a different audience. Or with gospel it's a more religious,

2894
02:40:15,840 --> 02:40:19,040
Speaker 7: pseudo spiritual audience, so they wouldn't use the same ritual.

2895
02:40:19,840 --> 02:40:23,240
Speaker 7: It's different, different rituals. You may see some of the

2896
02:40:23,320 --> 02:40:26,760
Speaker 7: same in results, but it's different. It's different rituals. But

2897
02:40:27,000 --> 02:40:31,480
Speaker 7: nonetheless it's there and if they could use it, they will.

2898
02:40:32,720 --> 02:40:36,520
Speaker 7: In pop, there's a whole different theft of African culture.

2899
02:40:36,560 --> 02:40:41,280
Speaker 7: There's a theft of African spirituality in marrying the marrying

2900
02:40:41,400 --> 02:40:45,320
Speaker 7: music on too. Fashion. There's a whole theft of African consciousness,

2901
02:40:46,080 --> 02:40:49,000
Speaker 7: the textiles and different things that come out of Africa

2902
02:40:50,520 --> 02:40:54,279
Speaker 7: claiming claiming certain things that originally are black and African.

2903
02:40:54,440 --> 02:40:58,960
Speaker 7: Will have the You'll have the artists, uh giving up

2904
02:40:59,360 --> 02:41:03,160
Speaker 7: their their rights to certain fashion and certain textiles and

2905
02:41:03,280 --> 02:41:07,520
Speaker 7: certain things that are uniquely there's inherently there, but they'll

2906
02:41:07,560 --> 02:41:11,320
Speaker 7: have them speak out against these particular things. So the

2907
02:41:11,400 --> 02:41:14,400
Speaker 7: fashion industry can marry itself onto the music industry and

2908
02:41:14,520 --> 02:41:22,320
Speaker 7: both of them can thrive. That's that's ritualistic, exactly.

2909
02:41:22,040 --> 02:41:27,080
Speaker 1: Twenty five off the top of that, Professor Griff. Professor Griff.

2910
02:41:27,920 --> 02:41:30,400
Speaker 1: We always have some new listeners and you've talked about

2911
02:41:30,440 --> 02:41:33,520
Speaker 1: this before, the music frequency and how it changes and

2912
02:41:35,800 --> 02:41:38,120
Speaker 1: it changes you when you hear on a different frequency.

2913
02:41:38,200 --> 02:41:40,160
Speaker 1: Can you explain that to someone on your listeners?

2914
02:41:42,400 --> 02:41:44,520
Speaker 7: Well, if someone is just coming on and there listening,

2915
02:41:45,120 --> 02:41:47,760
Speaker 7: and we need to get them to understand that the

2916
02:41:48,200 --> 02:41:54,080
Speaker 7: natural frequency that the music that the earth resonates at

2917
02:41:54,800 --> 02:41:57,640
Speaker 7: is a four point thirty two hurts, which is a

2918
02:41:57,720 --> 02:42:03,320
Speaker 7: harmonic balance. It gives the spirit balance against the soul balance.

2919
02:42:03,400 --> 02:42:07,600
Speaker 7: It eases the mind, it's pleasant to the melanated carminated,

2920
02:42:07,680 --> 02:42:10,480
Speaker 7: melanated ear, which is connected to our soul.

2921
02:42:10,840 --> 02:42:12,480
Speaker 5: This is why we call it soul music.

2922
02:42:12,879 --> 02:42:17,000
Speaker 7: And it's very easy to listen to. It's easy to

2923
02:42:17,680 --> 02:42:19,840
Speaker 7: go to the cookout or the barbecue or the family

2924
02:42:19,920 --> 02:42:24,039
Speaker 7: reunion and here Frankie, Beverly and Mays or the Gap band.

2925
02:42:24,320 --> 02:42:26,600
Speaker 7: You understand what I'm saying. But now when they take

2926
02:42:26,680 --> 02:42:30,520
Speaker 7: this music and they want to disturb that natural harmonic

2927
02:42:30,640 --> 02:42:35,000
Speaker 7: balance and frequency, all right, they have changed the actually

2928
02:42:35,160 --> 02:42:38,320
Speaker 7: actual tuning of all of the songs in the period

2929
02:42:38,360 --> 02:42:40,760
Speaker 7: that we live in now to a four to forty hertz,

2930
02:42:41,080 --> 02:42:46,280
Speaker 7: which is actually anti natural, anti soul, definitely anti black,

2931
02:42:47,160 --> 02:42:52,240
Speaker 7: anti harmonic balance, anti positive frequency and vibration. And this

2932
02:42:52,440 --> 02:42:54,840
Speaker 7: is the thing that they're doing, and it's really psych

2933
02:42:55,160 --> 02:42:59,200
Speaker 7: it's the psychological warfare that's going on by using frequencies

2934
02:43:00,080 --> 02:43:02,400
Speaker 7: and that kind of thing in the music industry. So

2935
02:43:02,400 --> 02:43:06,280
Speaker 7: if someone's listening now, it would behoove us to be

2936
02:43:06,400 --> 02:43:11,640
Speaker 7: able to listen to music in its natural state. But

2937
02:43:11,800 --> 02:43:14,800
Speaker 7: the way instruments are tuned, the way orchestra is tuned,

2938
02:43:15,280 --> 02:43:17,840
Speaker 7: it's tuned to a four forty hertz as opposed to

2939
02:43:17,879 --> 02:43:19,000
Speaker 7: a four thirty two hertz.

2940
02:43:20,080 --> 02:43:23,000
Speaker 1: So this this this change is is this done in

2941
02:43:23,080 --> 02:43:25,840
Speaker 1: the production of the of the record a song or

2942
02:43:26,000 --> 02:43:28,680
Speaker 1: is it done after you guys leave the studio they

2943
02:43:28,840 --> 02:43:30,360
Speaker 1: change it? Or how does that work?

2944
02:43:32,640 --> 02:43:37,120
Speaker 7: Both called both and not either ads both and at

2945
02:43:37,160 --> 02:43:40,039
Speaker 7: the outstart of it because a lot of the studios,

2946
02:43:40,879 --> 02:43:43,640
Speaker 7: especially a mixing and mastering, which a lot of young

2947
02:43:43,680 --> 02:43:45,920
Speaker 7: people are doing it on their own now. But nonetheless,

2948
02:43:45,920 --> 02:43:48,360
Speaker 7: even if you're doing it on your on your own,

2949
02:43:48,600 --> 02:43:53,280
Speaker 7: there's a template that's already set up. They have they

2950
02:43:53,360 --> 02:43:55,480
Speaker 7: have templates that that are set up, that are already

2951
02:43:55,520 --> 02:43:57,879
Speaker 7: built into software that we use.

2952
02:43:58,160 --> 02:43:58,280
Speaker 3: Now.

2953
02:43:58,320 --> 02:44:00,120
Speaker 7: I know I might be speaking outside the app this

2954
02:44:00,320 --> 02:44:02,800
Speaker 7: person's grasp of this. But there's a thing called the doll,

2955
02:44:03,080 --> 02:44:06,720
Speaker 7: a digital audio workstation. There's about five different dolls that

2956
02:44:06,840 --> 02:44:10,600
Speaker 7: I could mention. There's fruity loops, there's pro tools, there's

2957
02:44:11,000 --> 02:44:15,000
Speaker 7: I could say reason. Uh, I use Reason software. Inside

2958
02:44:15,040 --> 02:44:18,440
Speaker 7: Reason software, it's tuned to a four to forty hertz.

2959
02:44:18,520 --> 02:44:18,879
Speaker 13: I have to.

2960
02:44:18,959 --> 02:44:24,760
Speaker 7: Physically and manually call change the frequency my songs are

2961
02:44:24,800 --> 02:44:28,920
Speaker 7: produced and made so to the software.

2962
02:44:29,640 --> 02:44:33,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, but but you you're a music cologist, are they oledge?

2963
02:44:33,360 --> 02:44:35,640
Speaker 1: You understand that? For me and the rest of the

2964
02:44:35,760 --> 02:44:38,160
Speaker 1: most of the folks, we don't have any ears. You know,

2965
02:44:38,280 --> 02:44:42,000
Speaker 1: we can't tell the difference. How did help us out?

2966
02:44:42,120 --> 02:44:44,680
Speaker 1: How could we find it? Because I guess he's difference

2967
02:44:44,720 --> 02:44:48,800
Speaker 1: of real subtle, but but the effect is real pronounced.

2968
02:44:49,400 --> 02:44:51,160
Speaker 1: How can we help us out? How can we tell

2969
02:44:51,200 --> 02:44:51,680
Speaker 1: the difference?

2970
02:44:53,560 --> 02:44:57,039
Speaker 7: You know, I think the average person won't be able

2971
02:44:57,280 --> 02:45:01,320
Speaker 7: to tell the difference just by listening. Let's start looking

2972
02:45:01,440 --> 02:45:05,039
Speaker 7: at how you feel about a song. So the thirty

2973
02:45:05,040 --> 02:45:08,920
Speaker 7: two hers is a musical tuning frequency that's more natural

2974
02:45:09,040 --> 02:45:12,640
Speaker 7: and more harmonic, all right, Why would they have to

2975
02:45:13,000 --> 02:45:16,400
Speaker 7: change it to the four forty hurts, which which is

2976
02:45:16,400 --> 02:45:19,400
Speaker 7: supposed to reduce stress, But it doesn't. If you listen

2977
02:45:19,480 --> 02:45:21,640
Speaker 7: to a song, you're going by how a song makes

2978
02:45:21,680 --> 02:45:23,720
Speaker 7: you feel in most cases. And I think if we

2979
02:45:23,920 --> 02:45:26,840
Speaker 7: if we kind of use that as a basis, then

2980
02:45:26,920 --> 02:45:29,080
Speaker 7: we can we could start at that point and use

2981
02:45:29,120 --> 02:45:32,320
Speaker 7: that as a reference point to start to determine where

2982
02:45:32,400 --> 02:45:35,120
Speaker 7: that's what that song is actually doing to us, how

2983
02:45:35,200 --> 02:45:40,080
Speaker 7: we feel. I saw a stress anxiety, reducing anxiety, mental clarity.

2984
02:45:41,760 --> 02:45:43,200
Speaker 7: You know a lot of us listening to music while

2985
02:45:43,240 --> 02:45:45,160
Speaker 7: we're going to sleep. We listen to music when we

2986
02:45:45,240 --> 02:45:47,680
Speaker 7: wait when we listen to music in the car. But

2987
02:45:47,760 --> 02:45:50,400
Speaker 7: if it's disturbing your piece, you're in a piece, then

2988
02:45:50,440 --> 02:45:52,080
Speaker 7: it might be a problem with those set of songs

2989
02:45:52,120 --> 02:45:54,680
Speaker 7: that you're listening to. It might be built into the

2990
02:45:55,480 --> 02:45:57,520
Speaker 7: hurts and the frequency of the song.

2991
02:46:00,120 --> 02:46:04,520
Speaker 1: Us an example, Yeah, give us an example of different frequencies.

2992
02:46:04,959 --> 02:46:09,240
Speaker 1: Just one, the correct one and one that serves it

2993
02:46:09,400 --> 02:46:11,199
Speaker 1: in a sanctuary, if you will.

2994
02:46:11,280 --> 02:46:15,360
Speaker 7: Okay, Why do we listen to meditade of high vibration

2995
02:46:15,520 --> 02:46:19,040
Speaker 7: of music when we're calming ourselves at the end of

2996
02:46:19,080 --> 02:46:22,360
Speaker 7: the evening or when we want to just relax. Why

2997
02:46:22,520 --> 02:46:27,600
Speaker 7: is the music in some certain stores calmer, softer, easy

2998
02:46:27,680 --> 02:46:30,360
Speaker 7: to listen to as opposed to you going to a

2999
02:46:30,440 --> 02:46:35,480
Speaker 7: store with bright lights loud music that's irritating. Must not

3000
02:46:35,560 --> 02:46:38,320
Speaker 7: gonna mention his name. Work in a pizza shop, he

3001
02:46:38,560 --> 02:46:43,279
Speaker 7: told me, He says, Dad, We purposely play irritating metal

3002
02:46:43,760 --> 02:46:46,360
Speaker 7: music in the pizza shop because we don't want people

3003
02:46:46,480 --> 02:46:49,200
Speaker 7: to stay. We want them to get that pizza, eat

3004
02:46:49,240 --> 02:46:51,880
Speaker 7: it and leave, or get the pizza and leave. Do

3005
02:46:51,879 --> 02:46:54,160
Speaker 7: you wanna say what I'm saying? So they play irritating

3006
02:46:54,280 --> 02:46:56,960
Speaker 7: music to get you in and to get you out.

3007
02:46:57,600 --> 02:47:01,720
Speaker 7: Lights of bright TV is on. Music is playing. You

3008
02:47:01,800 --> 02:47:04,960
Speaker 7: don't have time to calm down. That's why they call

3009
02:47:05,040 --> 02:47:08,199
Speaker 7: it fast food. It's not only fast food, but everything

3010
02:47:08,320 --> 02:47:12,160
Speaker 7: is fast. You're thinking your digestion and this affects This

3011
02:47:12,360 --> 02:47:15,600
Speaker 7: affects you overall. You gotta say what I'm saying. But

3012
02:47:15,720 --> 02:47:18,200
Speaker 7: when you want to relax in a couple of atmosphere,

3013
02:47:18,200 --> 02:47:20,760
Speaker 7: they want you to spend more money. They'll do that

3014
02:47:21,959 --> 02:47:24,360
Speaker 7: in some restaurants that have bars because they want you

3015
02:47:24,560 --> 02:47:27,640
Speaker 7: to stay, They want you to buy another drink. They

3016
02:47:27,800 --> 02:47:31,039
Speaker 7: want you to be calm and relaxed. Some of them

3017
02:47:31,160 --> 02:47:35,160
Speaker 7: call that the family restaurant or the family atmosphere kind

3018
02:47:35,200 --> 02:47:37,600
Speaker 7: of thing. They know you're bringing three other people with

3019
02:47:37,920 --> 02:47:39,640
Speaker 7: the mom and dad, so they want you to spend

3020
02:47:39,920 --> 02:47:41,760
Speaker 7: more money. They know you're going to get a dessert.

3021
02:47:42,240 --> 02:47:44,280
Speaker 7: So there's a difference in the music that they play.

3022
02:47:44,440 --> 02:47:46,960
Speaker 7: Carl and that's the best example that I could give you.

3023
02:47:48,200 --> 02:47:50,640
Speaker 1: Got it twenty nine away from the top of Cliff's

3024
02:47:50,680 --> 02:47:53,560
Speaker 1: called Us from Connecticut is online One Grand Rising, Cliff,

3025
02:47:53,600 --> 02:47:56,280
Speaker 1: you're wrong, Professor Griff a.

3026
02:47:56,320 --> 02:47:59,480
Speaker 11: Grand Rising brother Kyle and grand Rising does the Professor

3027
02:47:59,560 --> 02:48:01,840
Speaker 11: Griff This was the last time he was on. This

3028
02:48:01,959 --> 02:48:04,840
Speaker 11: is basically what I was getting at. And Professor griff

3029
02:48:04,920 --> 02:48:07,600
Speaker 11: is so on point, and Carl, let me say this.

3030
02:48:07,800 --> 02:48:10,240
Speaker 11: Does this give me an example. I took an uber

3031
02:48:10,320 --> 02:48:13,160
Speaker 11: last night at a young boy. All I heard on

3032
02:48:13,280 --> 02:48:16,320
Speaker 11: the song was, to my expression, nigga, nigga, nigga.

3033
02:48:16,600 --> 02:48:19,359
Speaker 7: That was repeated along with gunshots.

3034
02:48:20,000 --> 02:48:23,160
Speaker 11: They do that all the time. Son, Professor Griff for

3035
02:48:23,160 --> 02:48:26,280
Speaker 11: rebbed me from wrong. If you listen to that repeatedly,

3036
02:48:26,920 --> 02:48:29,280
Speaker 11: and like you said, a low vibration, the music was

3037
02:48:29,360 --> 02:48:32,520
Speaker 11: just it was just so rough, you know, I couldn't

3038
02:48:32,560 --> 02:48:35,879
Speaker 11: take it. But then if you're smoking, Carl, and you're

3039
02:48:35,879 --> 02:48:39,160
Speaker 11: smoking some type of ill illy whatever, and you're drinking

3040
02:48:39,600 --> 02:48:42,320
Speaker 11: and you're listening to this after a while, there's no

3041
02:48:42,600 --> 02:48:45,800
Speaker 11: question that you're in the mood to smoke somebody or

3042
02:48:45,879 --> 02:48:48,439
Speaker 11: to go in the neighborhood man and then do a shootout.

3043
02:48:50,760 --> 02:48:52,800
Speaker 1: Who was the driver? Was the driver black or white?

3044
02:48:53,840 --> 02:48:53,920
Speaker 7: Now?

3045
02:48:54,040 --> 02:48:57,240
Speaker 11: Puerto Rican? Because it's your So the point is that

3046
02:48:57,320 --> 02:49:00,400
Speaker 11: I'm saying that it's young people and they're like being

3047
02:49:00,600 --> 02:49:03,800
Speaker 11: programmed to play this music. And what I'm saying is

3048
02:49:03,840 --> 02:49:06,320
Speaker 11: that if you're not attuned to this when you get it,

3049
02:49:06,720 --> 02:49:10,360
Speaker 11: it's just so eruptive. To your spirit, to your soul.

3050
02:49:11,000 --> 02:49:13,600
Speaker 11: It's just so negative when you kill someone, killing somebody

3051
02:49:13,840 --> 02:49:16,480
Speaker 11: and you got gunshots. Now you said my last point

3052
02:49:16,520 --> 02:49:20,560
Speaker 11: of the car, you said today right to celebrate New Years.

3053
02:49:20,800 --> 02:49:23,320
Speaker 11: You hope there's no gunshots. I can guarantee you man,

3054
02:49:23,360 --> 02:49:26,320
Speaker 11: there'll be gunfire all across the country and the black

3055
02:49:26,360 --> 02:49:30,879
Speaker 11: neighborhoods now, Professor Griffin, my off, No.

3056
02:49:30,959 --> 02:49:32,520
Speaker 9: No, no, no, you are right.

3057
02:49:32,600 --> 02:49:33,080
Speaker 5: You're right.

3058
02:49:33,200 --> 02:49:38,240
Speaker 7: And that because simply because they've reprogrammed neurological pathways, they

3059
02:49:38,400 --> 02:49:43,280
Speaker 7: know and understand with certain sounds and certain repetitions, because

3060
02:49:43,320 --> 02:49:45,920
Speaker 7: repetition is the mother of learning. This is how they

3061
02:49:46,080 --> 02:49:50,080
Speaker 7: reprogram a neurological pathway, meaning that they know how we're

3062
02:49:50,200 --> 02:49:53,400
Speaker 7: going to respond to the four point forty hurts that's

3063
02:49:53,400 --> 02:49:56,360
Speaker 7: built into the music and the behavior that comes with

3064
02:49:56,760 --> 02:50:00,760
Speaker 7: the lyrics, which are actually instructions for young people. So

3065
02:50:00,879 --> 02:50:01,920
Speaker 7: you're on you on it.

3066
02:50:02,640 --> 02:50:06,920
Speaker 11: That's it, brother, Professor Griff is on point. This brother

3067
02:50:07,000 --> 02:50:08,400
Speaker 11: man knows exactly what's going on.

3068
02:50:08,600 --> 02:50:09,520
Speaker 5: That's you think of my call?

3069
02:50:10,440 --> 02:50:14,120
Speaker 1: Thank and so what can we do, Professor Griff. You

3070
02:50:14,160 --> 02:50:17,280
Speaker 1: know because if you've shut off the music, you know, uh,

3071
02:50:17,400 --> 02:50:19,320
Speaker 1: they're still going to figure out a way how to

3072
02:50:19,560 --> 02:50:20,440
Speaker 1: how to hear the music.

3073
02:50:20,520 --> 02:50:21,160
Speaker 7: So what can we do?

3074
02:50:22,240 --> 02:50:23,800
Speaker 1: Can we counter program that music?

3075
02:50:25,240 --> 02:50:25,680
Speaker 3: Exactly?

3076
02:50:25,879 --> 02:50:31,240
Speaker 7: We have to counter not only counter program the music

3077
02:50:31,840 --> 02:50:35,320
Speaker 7: before getting into the music history and knowing your understanding,

3078
02:50:35,480 --> 02:50:38,640
Speaker 7: this is this is, this is why I do the writers' classes.

3079
02:50:39,000 --> 02:50:41,800
Speaker 7: So we can go deeple So we could talk about neuroscience.

3080
02:50:42,080 --> 02:50:46,040
Speaker 7: We could talk about this idea of repeating repeated exposure

3081
02:50:46,640 --> 02:50:52,080
Speaker 7: creates this strong chemical bond way before a coach bond

3082
02:50:52,240 --> 02:50:55,880
Speaker 7: called we're talking about a chemical bond that you connect

3083
02:50:56,240 --> 02:51:01,240
Speaker 7: with the song almost on a cellular DNA level, if

3084
02:51:01,240 --> 02:51:06,840
Speaker 7: I could use that terminology. It solidifies long term recoil

3085
02:51:07,480 --> 02:51:11,720
Speaker 7: recall and long term memory, so that when you hear

3086
02:51:11,840 --> 02:51:14,640
Speaker 7: a certain for example, let me give you a good example.

3087
02:51:14,840 --> 02:51:16,760
Speaker 7: You ever went to a cookout or an event and

3088
02:51:16,840 --> 02:51:20,240
Speaker 7: a certain song come on and hundreds of maybe hundreds

3089
02:51:20,240 --> 02:51:23,720
Speaker 7: of black people start doing the electric slide or line dance.

3090
02:51:24,640 --> 02:51:27,480
Speaker 7: How do we know to do that to that particular song?

3091
02:51:28,080 --> 02:51:34,280
Speaker 7: You see, that's reprogramming, that's neuroscience, that's reprogramming the neurological pathway.

3092
02:51:34,920 --> 02:51:37,480
Speaker 7: You understand why if we do it with line dancing

3093
02:51:38,280 --> 02:51:40,600
Speaker 7: and certain songs, why can't we do it with rat

3094
02:51:41,080 --> 02:51:45,360
Speaker 7: and hip hop. Do you understand what I'm saying? It's there,

3095
02:51:46,240 --> 02:51:48,680
Speaker 7: we have the tools to do it. Who's gonna be

3096
02:51:48,680 --> 02:51:50,800
Speaker 7: breaking up to step up and outside of the music

3097
02:51:50,879 --> 02:51:55,080
Speaker 7: industry and forsake their popularity in order to set that emotion?

3098
02:51:55,560 --> 02:51:57,800
Speaker 4: And I have my hand raised. You can't see it,

3099
02:51:57,840 --> 02:51:58,680
Speaker 4: but it's raised.

3100
02:52:00,560 --> 02:52:05,680
Speaker 1: With gospel Professor Griffy, the same same ideals as you

3101
02:52:05,840 --> 02:52:08,440
Speaker 1: just mentioned work for the gospel industries.

3102
02:52:10,040 --> 02:52:13,400
Speaker 7: There's some beautiful songs I loved by some beautiful gospel

3103
02:52:14,080 --> 02:52:17,920
Speaker 7: artists that that don't mention Jesus in the song. But

3104
02:52:18,000 --> 02:52:20,240
Speaker 7: it's almost like, if you're talking about a gospel song

3105
02:52:20,720 --> 02:52:23,280
Speaker 7: and you don't mention the name Jesus, you're not gonna

3106
02:52:23,360 --> 02:52:24,039
Speaker 7: make the charts.

3107
02:52:24,600 --> 02:52:25,480
Speaker 5: So some of them do.

3108
02:52:26,680 --> 02:52:28,600
Speaker 7: We could talk about a myriad of other things that

3109
02:52:29,040 --> 02:52:33,119
Speaker 7: go on in the religious or spiritual world. Uh when

3110
02:52:33,160 --> 02:52:36,280
Speaker 7: when when writing and making a song, you understand what

3111
02:52:36,280 --> 02:52:40,480
Speaker 7: I'm saying. But there's a formula to that. Also, Listen,

3112
02:52:40,520 --> 02:52:42,160
Speaker 7: there's nothing wrong with having a formula.

3113
02:52:42,720 --> 02:52:43,440
Speaker 5: If you listen to.

3114
02:52:43,760 --> 02:52:46,800
Speaker 7: An interview by Babyface or someone a lot of them,

3115
02:52:46,920 --> 02:52:49,560
Speaker 7: Jimmy Jam Terry Lewis, they'll tell you there's formulas that

3116
02:52:49,760 --> 02:52:52,360
Speaker 7: they use. There's a certain formula to get your song

3117
02:52:52,440 --> 02:52:55,480
Speaker 7: on the radio. There's certain remixes and formulas that they

3118
02:52:55,640 --> 02:52:58,520
Speaker 7: use for the for the club or whatever. They'll do

3119
02:52:58,600 --> 02:53:01,040
Speaker 7: a dance mix, or they'll do it over mixed, and

3120
02:53:01,120 --> 02:53:04,439
Speaker 7: these are formulas that they used. Well, we can reformulate

3121
02:53:04,520 --> 02:53:05,800
Speaker 7: these things. There's nothing wrong with that.

3122
02:53:08,240 --> 02:53:09,520
Speaker 1: Well, hold of the right there. We've got to step

3123
02:53:09,520 --> 02:53:10,920
Speaker 1: aside for a few monus, our last bring and we

3124
02:53:11,000 --> 02:53:13,760
Speaker 1: come back, though we'll talk about more about music as well,

3125
02:53:13,760 --> 02:53:16,160
Speaker 1: because I know you coach and teach young people who

3126
02:53:16,160 --> 02:53:18,440
Speaker 1: are getting in the industry, who want to get in

3127
02:53:18,520 --> 02:53:20,600
Speaker 1: the industry, and you also have a couple of books

3128
02:53:20,600 --> 02:53:22,880
Speaker 1: out and you have a program out as well. But

3129
02:53:22,959 --> 02:53:24,560
Speaker 1: I also want to talk to you about what you

3130
02:53:24,640 --> 02:53:27,800
Speaker 1: say the global plan is for Africa and how we

3131
02:53:28,040 --> 02:53:30,880
Speaker 1: play at our role in that. Twenty three minutes away

3132
02:53:30,879 --> 02:53:32,400
Speaker 1: from the top, they our family, call up a couple

3133
02:53:32,440 --> 02:53:34,240
Speaker 1: of friends, tell them that I've still got a few

3134
02:53:34,280 --> 02:53:36,560
Speaker 1: more minutes to hear Professor Griff and you can reach

3135
02:53:36,600 --> 02:53:37,880
Speaker 1: them if you want to speak to him at eight

3136
02:53:38,000 --> 02:53:40,960
Speaker 1: hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy six, and

3137
02:53:41,000 --> 02:53:43,640
Speaker 1: we'll take your phone calls next and Grand Rising family.

3138
02:53:43,720 --> 02:53:45,960
Speaker 1: Thanks for sticking with us on this Wednesday morning, this

3139
02:53:46,080 --> 02:53:48,080
Speaker 1: hump day, last hump Day of twenty twenty five, for

3140
02:53:48,160 --> 02:53:51,240
Speaker 1: our guest, Professor Griff and public enemy Professor Griff. Before

3141
02:53:51,280 --> 02:53:53,440
Speaker 1: we talk about Africa, the tweeter wanted to know, says,

3142
02:53:53,680 --> 02:53:55,880
Speaker 1: I'll just read it. He says, Please ask Professor Griff,

3143
02:53:56,160 --> 02:53:58,680
Speaker 1: why don't we hear the music with a message anymore?

3144
02:54:01,400 --> 02:54:05,520
Speaker 7: I think that's not part of the overall of the

3145
02:54:05,640 --> 02:54:09,520
Speaker 7: people that actually control the music industry that they don't

3146
02:54:09,600 --> 02:54:15,200
Speaker 7: They don't want young people to be taught anything, especially

3147
02:54:15,600 --> 02:54:18,960
Speaker 7: using the medium that we find young people in, which

3148
02:54:19,080 --> 02:54:24,240
Speaker 7: is rap and hip hop. It's best to keep the populace,

3149
02:54:24,440 --> 02:54:26,520
Speaker 7: best to keep the masses of the people blind, deaf,

3150
02:54:26,560 --> 02:54:30,640
Speaker 7: and dumb. It's easy to control them that way. It's

3151
02:54:30,720 --> 02:54:33,080
Speaker 7: easy to sell them a product. It's easy, you know,

3152
02:54:33,400 --> 02:54:36,680
Speaker 7: it's easy to sell the next phone, or the next trend,

3153
02:54:36,840 --> 02:54:37,680
Speaker 7: or the next whatever.

3154
02:54:38,000 --> 02:54:38,920
Speaker 12: If you keep them.

3155
02:54:40,720 --> 02:54:45,040
Speaker 7: Debt phrase, if you keep them always thirsty for the

3156
02:54:45,240 --> 02:54:49,600
Speaker 7: new thing, if you keep them always seeking validation the

3157
02:54:49,760 --> 02:54:53,360
Speaker 7: next digital dopamine hit. If you keep them chasing that,

3158
02:54:53,920 --> 02:54:57,120
Speaker 7: it's easier to control them. And if you're in the

3159
02:54:57,200 --> 02:55:01,160
Speaker 7: industry that you don't, you know, not necessarily eating from anymore.

3160
02:55:01,160 --> 02:55:03,080
Speaker 7: You're looking where are you're going to get your next meal?

3161
02:55:04,320 --> 02:55:06,880
Speaker 7: And it's easy to control people that way, That's why.

3162
02:55:08,879 --> 02:55:11,080
Speaker 7: And it's easy to sell the negative stuff you.

3163
02:55:11,120 --> 02:55:15,920
Speaker 1: See, Yeah, apparently it is because they do a lot

3164
02:55:16,000 --> 02:55:19,400
Speaker 1: of that. But Professor griff the global plan for Africa,

3165
02:55:19,480 --> 02:55:21,680
Speaker 1: and where do we fit in to the global plan?

3166
02:55:21,800 --> 02:55:23,720
Speaker 1: Are we part of it or are we spectators?

3167
02:55:25,920 --> 02:55:27,520
Speaker 7: I'm thinking, what's the game called both?

3168
02:55:27,640 --> 02:55:27,760
Speaker 3: At?

3169
02:55:27,879 --> 02:55:31,039
Speaker 7: Simply because if those of us that are politically astute

3170
02:55:31,080 --> 02:55:33,000
Speaker 7: are keeping our fingers on the of what's going on

3171
02:55:33,720 --> 02:55:36,640
Speaker 7: with our brothers and sisters in Africa, our voices are

3172
02:55:36,680 --> 02:55:40,400
Speaker 7: not necessarily heard, and if they are other than wo

3173
02:55:40,840 --> 02:55:43,480
Speaker 7: the fourteen fifty w ol To call Nelson's show and

3174
02:55:43,560 --> 02:55:46,000
Speaker 7: other shows like this, which are very few and far

3175
02:55:46,080 --> 02:55:48,240
Speaker 7: in between, were also are we going to hear this?

3176
02:55:48,959 --> 02:55:51,720
Speaker 7: So then if we're hearing it in hip hop, rap

3177
02:55:51,800 --> 02:55:54,680
Speaker 7: and hip hop, then who are we hearing it from?

3178
02:55:55,000 --> 02:55:58,280
Speaker 7: Is the question. So when I had talked about this

3179
02:55:58,360 --> 02:56:02,240
Speaker 7: conversation before, I talked about a film that was out,

3180
02:56:02,280 --> 02:56:06,160
Speaker 7: the documentary film I believe in twenty twenty four. It

3181
02:56:06,360 --> 02:56:10,480
Speaker 7: was the soundtrack to the Coupdata and it talked about

3182
02:56:10,640 --> 02:56:18,160
Speaker 7: how in the Cold War they launched their counter culture missiles,

3183
02:56:18,400 --> 02:56:23,400
Speaker 7: meaning that they sent legends like Louis Armstrong, Nina Simone,

3184
02:56:23,440 --> 02:56:27,119
Speaker 7: Dizzy Giletski, Abby Lincoln, Max Roach, and a few other

3185
02:56:27,280 --> 02:56:32,080
Speaker 7: artists over to Africa right for a cultural exchange. But

3186
02:56:32,240 --> 02:56:35,560
Speaker 7: it wasn't for a cultural exchange. They wanted to make

3187
02:56:35,640 --> 02:56:40,000
Speaker 7: an easy route and a secure vein so the Alphabet

3188
02:56:40,080 --> 02:56:44,200
Speaker 7: Boys can operate in Africa to destabilize African countries and

3189
02:56:45,160 --> 02:56:49,240
Speaker 7: unlive and assassinate leaders like Patrise Mamunba. And it worked.

3190
02:56:49,800 --> 02:56:52,080
Speaker 7: Now I'm paralleling that to what's going on today with

3191
02:56:52,160 --> 02:56:56,040
Speaker 7: people like Nicki Minaj and other artists that are global

3192
02:56:56,120 --> 02:57:00,400
Speaker 7: ambassadors or that are ambassadors for cultural ambassadors for America.

3193
02:57:01,720 --> 02:57:03,680
Speaker 7: For the vast majority of people that are going over,

3194
02:57:03,959 --> 02:57:07,840
Speaker 7: these people are not culturally astute or politically astute. They

3195
02:57:07,959 --> 02:57:10,320
Speaker 7: made a couple of songs in the music industry and

3196
02:57:10,400 --> 02:57:14,240
Speaker 7: they have an online following. That's it call. And these

3197
02:57:14,280 --> 02:57:16,240
Speaker 7: people are supposed to go abroad and speak for the

3198
02:57:16,320 --> 02:57:20,200
Speaker 7: vast of us. Absolutely not, I think not. But this

3199
02:57:20,400 --> 02:57:23,920
Speaker 7: is the plan, Carl, This is the plan. Did Disney

3200
02:57:23,920 --> 02:57:27,199
Speaker 7: glets me know, Nina, somebody you know Louis. Did Louis

3201
02:57:27,240 --> 02:57:29,960
Speaker 7: Armstrong know that they were carrying out a greater and

3202
02:57:30,080 --> 02:57:32,960
Speaker 7: a deeper, darker hidden agenda.

3203
02:57:33,360 --> 02:57:34,080
Speaker 6: No, they didn't.

3204
02:57:35,120 --> 02:57:37,760
Speaker 7: They were artists. And I think Malcolm X spoke on

3205
02:57:37,879 --> 02:57:41,800
Speaker 7: that how these these these these particular actors and trumpet

3206
02:57:41,840 --> 02:57:44,640
Speaker 7: players and other people become the black leaders in the

3207
02:57:44,680 --> 02:57:47,640
Speaker 7: black neighborhoods for black people, and he spoke up and

3208
02:57:47,720 --> 02:57:50,840
Speaker 7: out out against that. All. I'm not saying that people

3209
02:57:50,840 --> 02:57:53,640
Speaker 7: are not good people. I don't want people to take

3210
02:57:53,680 --> 02:57:56,760
Speaker 7: that the wrong way. They're very good people. But the

3211
02:57:57,400 --> 02:57:59,560
Speaker 7: deeper essence of what was going on and how they

3212
02:57:59,600 --> 02:58:02,200
Speaker 7: were being used it came out later on in the

3213
02:58:02,280 --> 02:58:04,240
Speaker 7: film A soundtrack to the Kudata.

3214
02:58:06,680 --> 02:58:10,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, Louis Armstrong had regrets about that after he came

3215
02:58:10,720 --> 02:58:15,320
Speaker 1: back after he found its being used. But nowadays thirteen

3216
02:58:15,360 --> 02:58:17,440
Speaker 1: away from the top there by the way Family, they

3217
02:58:17,480 --> 02:58:19,959
Speaker 1: don't have to send them over to the continent because

3218
02:58:20,000 --> 02:58:22,840
Speaker 1: we're the Internet now. They could just do their thing

3219
02:58:22,959 --> 02:58:26,520
Speaker 1: from here and use them as ambassadors from here. Is

3220
02:58:26,600 --> 02:58:29,039
Speaker 1: that an issue as well? The in it has changed

3221
02:58:29,080 --> 02:58:29,400
Speaker 1: the game?

3222
02:58:31,240 --> 02:58:34,080
Speaker 7: Yes, bro, you have to understand something with them controlling

3223
02:58:35,000 --> 02:58:38,640
Speaker 7: who is seeing what is said as far as censorship

3224
02:58:38,720 --> 02:58:41,480
Speaker 7: is concerned with the platforms. This is why you have

3225
02:58:41,640 --> 02:58:45,000
Speaker 7: to invite and had the right people to invite a

3226
02:58:45,080 --> 02:58:47,840
Speaker 7: Nicki Minaj to come speak to US embassy, and then

3227
02:58:47,879 --> 02:58:50,240
Speaker 7: you have to give her the talking You have to

3228
02:58:50,280 --> 02:58:52,240
Speaker 7: give her the talking boys. This is why you have

3229
02:58:52,360 --> 02:58:56,120
Speaker 7: to have her on Turning Point USA, simply because they

3230
02:58:56,200 --> 02:58:58,760
Speaker 7: controlled the media, so it has to have a certain

3231
02:58:58,840 --> 02:59:04,000
Speaker 7: degree of media coverage for anyone on the global community

3232
02:59:04,520 --> 02:59:10,800
Speaker 7: to even pay attention listening to her first I would

3233
02:59:10,840 --> 02:59:13,560
Speaker 7: say the first team twenty minutes is just unclear as

3234
02:59:13,600 --> 02:59:17,400
Speaker 7: to what she's even talking about. But that is part

3235
02:59:17,840 --> 02:59:20,000
Speaker 7: of the plan. That's part of the bland.

3236
02:59:23,480 --> 02:59:26,240
Speaker 1: I mean to throw this in here too, that UN movie,

3237
02:59:26,280 --> 02:59:30,640
Speaker 1: because they know that the United Nations, whatever she said

3238
02:59:30,840 --> 02:59:32,560
Speaker 1: is going to be repeated all over the world because

3239
02:59:32,560 --> 02:59:35,640
Speaker 1: they all have the representatives of the UN and that's

3240
02:59:35,760 --> 02:59:37,920
Speaker 1: you know, they have their reporters there and they report

3241
02:59:38,040 --> 02:59:40,720
Speaker 1: back and it goes back all across the world whatever

3242
02:59:40,840 --> 02:59:43,320
Speaker 1: she said at the UN. So you're right, she was

3243
02:59:43,360 --> 02:59:45,800
Speaker 1: tapped for that job and giving a script, and she

3244
02:59:46,000 --> 02:59:48,840
Speaker 1: she performed. I guess we'll be waiting to see what

3245
02:59:49,040 --> 02:59:51,480
Speaker 1: sort of rewards she's going to get for for what

3246
02:59:51,600 --> 02:59:52,880
Speaker 1: she's been doing so far.

3247
02:59:54,720 --> 02:59:57,160
Speaker 7: Well, they say, you know, her relationship with her brother

3248
02:59:57,280 --> 03:00:01,080
Speaker 7: and her husband in reference to being pardon for certain things,

3249
03:00:01,680 --> 03:00:05,240
Speaker 7: that's from the agenda. But she says the music industry

3250
03:00:05,280 --> 03:00:08,760
Speaker 7: doesn't love free thinkers. She hits say that speaking outside

3251
03:00:09,320 --> 03:00:12,080
Speaker 7: these talking points, well, the talking points were given to

3252
03:00:12,160 --> 03:00:16,360
Speaker 7: her because I've never known Nicki Minaj to be a

3253
03:00:16,680 --> 03:00:23,280
Speaker 7: Christian or political or or speak on this political identity politics.

3254
03:00:23,560 --> 03:00:26,320
Speaker 7: So to speak up against the Christians that are being

3255
03:00:26,680 --> 03:00:30,160
Speaker 7: un alive in Nigeria is the last thing I would

3256
03:00:30,160 --> 03:00:34,840
Speaker 7: expect to hear from someone like Nicki Minaj. You understand

3257
03:00:34,840 --> 03:00:38,080
Speaker 7: what I'm saying. So when if we kind of put

3258
03:00:38,160 --> 03:00:41,400
Speaker 7: that under the microscope, is it true? Are Christians being

3259
03:00:41,440 --> 03:00:45,640
Speaker 7: persecuted in certain parts of Africa? Yes, but Muslims also

3260
03:00:45,800 --> 03:00:49,320
Speaker 7: and innocent people are being unlive and this kind of thing.

3261
03:00:49,480 --> 03:00:52,560
Speaker 7: So first of all, let's get the facts straight. There

3262
03:00:52,600 --> 03:00:55,040
Speaker 7: are people now with boots on the ground that are

3263
03:00:55,040 --> 03:00:59,400
Speaker 7: speaking and out against this particular, this particular narrative. But

3264
03:00:59,480 --> 03:01:02,640
Speaker 7: it's almost too late now, call because bombs already being

3265
03:01:02,760 --> 03:01:05,240
Speaker 7: dropped on villages in Africa.

3266
03:01:06,800 --> 03:01:10,480
Speaker 1: Do you think it's a pread going after the Sahal nations.

3267
03:01:12,520 --> 03:01:15,879
Speaker 7: Yes, indeed, and they're a lot closer because it's it's

3268
03:01:16,000 --> 03:01:21,080
Speaker 7: more difficult to do what you're doing, to do what

3269
03:01:21,200 --> 03:01:23,119
Speaker 7: you want to do as far as carrying out the mission,

3270
03:01:23,959 --> 03:01:27,600
Speaker 7: simply because African nations and African leaders and African people

3271
03:01:28,720 --> 03:01:32,959
Speaker 7: are waking are waking up. When they controlled and got

3272
03:01:33,000 --> 03:01:35,240
Speaker 7: in front of the narrative and controlling the hearts and

3273
03:01:35,320 --> 03:01:38,120
Speaker 7: minds and the thinking of young people in Africa, then

3274
03:01:38,160 --> 03:01:41,720
Speaker 7: they could pull this off. But it's very difficult to

3275
03:01:41,840 --> 03:01:44,240
Speaker 7: do that now. And I think that actually kind of

3276
03:01:44,320 --> 03:01:46,640
Speaker 7: they started playing checkers again as opposed to playing chess

3277
03:01:46,640 --> 03:01:50,400
Speaker 7: simply because they chose the wrong ambassador. Nicki Minaj is

3278
03:01:50,640 --> 03:01:54,320
Speaker 7: not that one. No one's really listening to her like that.

3279
03:01:54,760 --> 03:01:57,400
Speaker 7: You understand what I'm saying. We don't view her in

3280
03:01:58,000 --> 03:02:02,240
Speaker 7: that light, But do African children and kids in certain

3281
03:02:02,280 --> 03:02:04,840
Speaker 7: parts of Africa do. They might because she has a

3282
03:02:04,920 --> 03:02:08,039
Speaker 7: high she's a high profile. Songs are probably being played

3283
03:02:08,400 --> 03:02:13,080
Speaker 7: in Africa, but with leaders like Ibrahim Chari and other people,

3284
03:02:14,920 --> 03:02:18,160
Speaker 7: they're censoring a lot of this stuff of everything from

3285
03:02:18,280 --> 03:02:23,200
Speaker 7: hairstyle to a whitening cream for your face and this

3286
03:02:23,360 --> 03:02:26,760
Speaker 7: kind of behavior and listening to certain music. Yeah, they're they're,

3287
03:02:26,760 --> 03:02:29,200
Speaker 7: they're checking some of this stuff at the door. And

3288
03:02:29,280 --> 03:02:31,160
Speaker 7: it's harder now to get the hearts and minds of

3289
03:02:31,200 --> 03:02:32,240
Speaker 7: young people in Africa.

3290
03:02:32,879 --> 03:02:34,200
Speaker 1: All right, hold on, all I think a bunch of

3291
03:02:34,240 --> 03:02:36,160
Speaker 1: folks want to talk to you, Professor Griff. Let's start

3292
03:02:36,160 --> 03:02:39,680
Speaker 1: with Mike and DC's online one Grand riseing mikey one

3293
03:02:39,800 --> 03:02:40,840
Speaker 1: with Professor Griff.

3294
03:02:41,800 --> 03:02:45,360
Speaker 7: Good morning, man, you have an excellent program. I'm going

3295
03:02:45,400 --> 03:02:48,280
Speaker 7: to be really reassured. I love what you were talking

3296
03:02:48,320 --> 03:02:52,039
Speaker 7: about with the frequency and all because and you mentioned

3297
03:02:52,120 --> 03:02:57,120
Speaker 7: Frankie Beverley and Mays and uh that cookout as scenario.

3298
03:02:57,959 --> 03:03:01,200
Speaker 7: And what came to me is when Beyond they redid

3299
03:03:03,200 --> 03:03:06,320
Speaker 7: before I let go, And the minute I heard it,

3300
03:03:06,879 --> 03:03:10,880
Speaker 7: I said, there's a difference in that because he is

3301
03:03:11,440 --> 03:03:16,200
Speaker 7: that song began to introduce young people to Mads because

3302
03:03:16,240 --> 03:03:18,600
Speaker 7: a lot of young people didn't know him, but that

3303
03:03:18,800 --> 03:03:21,960
Speaker 7: song began to introduce her. And then Beyonce redid it

3304
03:03:22,360 --> 03:03:26,400
Speaker 7: and she changed the frequency of the music. And I

3305
03:03:26,600 --> 03:03:29,800
Speaker 7: like Beyonce, but I knew the moment I heard it,

3306
03:03:30,320 --> 03:03:32,520
Speaker 7: I said, that's not right. I'm a go go man,

3307
03:03:32,879 --> 03:03:37,199
Speaker 7: and I remember in the pad when the when the shifted,

3308
03:03:38,040 --> 03:03:42,080
Speaker 7: when the music shifted and it changed the frequency of

3309
03:03:42,200 --> 03:03:45,440
Speaker 7: what I remember as go go and what we see

3310
03:03:45,600 --> 03:03:49,040
Speaker 7: today rap as well. So I really appreciate what you

3311
03:03:49,120 --> 03:03:51,880
Speaker 7: were saying, sir, God bless you. I know it's not

3312
03:03:52,000 --> 03:03:58,400
Speaker 7: the new year, but happy New Year to you. Can

3313
03:03:58,440 --> 03:03:59,360
Speaker 7: I speak to that called?

3314
03:03:59,680 --> 03:04:00,520
Speaker 1: Sure?

3315
03:04:01,360 --> 03:04:01,680
Speaker 3: Okay?

3316
03:04:01,879 --> 03:04:04,600
Speaker 7: So the idea of what we listen to our music,

3317
03:04:04,920 --> 03:04:07,800
Speaker 7: if we listen through it through Spotify, you throw board

3318
03:04:07,840 --> 03:04:10,000
Speaker 7: or whatever it is, we still have to listen with

3319
03:04:10,240 --> 03:04:14,080
Speaker 7: vast majority of we listened through our phones. So even

3320
03:04:14,240 --> 03:04:17,360
Speaker 7: if they don't get us on the production and the

3321
03:04:17,480 --> 03:04:20,040
Speaker 7: mixing and mastering end of it, by the time it

3322
03:04:20,240 --> 03:04:26,040
Speaker 7: reached the masses ears in spirit and physical body on

3323
03:04:26,120 --> 03:04:29,200
Speaker 7: a physical plane, they still get us. He gave a

3324
03:04:29,240 --> 03:04:32,080
Speaker 7: perfect example before I let go. It's played and we

3325
03:04:32,240 --> 03:04:33,720
Speaker 7: vibe to it, and we moved to it, and we

3326
03:04:33,800 --> 03:04:35,920
Speaker 7: grove to it. We knew the history of it, we

3327
03:04:36,040 --> 03:04:39,840
Speaker 7: knew the members of Maids, we followed them, you understand

3328
03:04:39,840 --> 03:04:41,640
Speaker 7: what I'm saying, And we knew any party we went

3329
03:04:41,680 --> 03:04:43,120
Speaker 7: to we would hear it because it gave us a

3330
03:04:43,160 --> 03:04:46,960
Speaker 7: good feeling. But now when she mixed it and they

3331
03:04:47,120 --> 03:04:50,000
Speaker 7: changed frequency of it. It didn't feel the same, it

3332
03:04:50,120 --> 03:04:53,119
Speaker 7: didn't move us the same. You understand what I'm saying.

3333
03:04:53,320 --> 03:04:56,040
Speaker 7: So now when your children here before I let go,

3334
03:04:56,560 --> 03:04:59,080
Speaker 7: it will be the Beyonce version. It won't be Frankie,

3335
03:04:59,080 --> 03:04:59,840
Speaker 7: Beverly and Mays.

3336
03:05:01,680 --> 03:05:04,000
Speaker 1: And how much of this was done deliberately? And did

3337
03:05:04,040 --> 03:05:04,800
Speaker 1: she know that was?

3338
03:05:05,040 --> 03:05:05,160
Speaker 5: Was she?

3339
03:05:05,680 --> 03:05:07,760
Speaker 1: And I don't know if you can I know the

3340
03:05:07,800 --> 03:05:09,480
Speaker 1: answer to this, but was should she party to that?

3341
03:05:09,680 --> 03:05:12,400
Speaker 1: Or she just hey, I just wanted to stand on

3342
03:05:12,520 --> 03:05:14,240
Speaker 1: my flavor of the song out there.

3343
03:05:15,720 --> 03:05:20,480
Speaker 7: Well, being very honestly, very transparent, I don't believe she that, no,

3344
03:05:21,360 --> 03:05:25,640
Speaker 7: knowing a few people that really know them. No, they're

3345
03:05:25,680 --> 03:05:28,520
Speaker 7: trying to stay relevant and they're just trying to stay

3346
03:05:28,560 --> 03:05:32,200
Speaker 7: on every every front that they can to stay relevant,

3347
03:05:32,480 --> 03:05:34,960
Speaker 7: not only with their fan base but with with with

3348
03:05:35,160 --> 03:05:38,800
Speaker 7: young people. So yeah, I don't think they're I don't

3349
03:05:38,800 --> 03:05:41,560
Speaker 7: think they're part of it. Now. Do they give any

3350
03:05:41,640 --> 03:05:44,320
Speaker 7: pushed back? Absolutely not. Because they want to stay relevant.

3351
03:05:45,320 --> 03:05:47,920
Speaker 7: They want to stay in the billionaire's club, not the

3352
03:05:48,000 --> 03:05:52,360
Speaker 7: millionaire's club, the billionaire with a beat billionaires clubs, and

3353
03:05:52,480 --> 03:05:54,720
Speaker 7: most of us are not in that club. How do

3354
03:05:54,800 --> 03:05:57,520
Speaker 7: you stay in that club? You go along with whatever's

3355
03:05:57,560 --> 03:06:00,880
Speaker 7: going on and the how would that be saying this

3356
03:06:01,040 --> 03:06:03,120
Speaker 7: the route that you want you to go? Then you

3357
03:06:03,120 --> 03:06:04,160
Speaker 7: don't give any pushback.

3358
03:06:06,160 --> 03:06:08,080
Speaker 1: Even with the cloud and the juice that she has,

3359
03:06:08,160 --> 03:06:11,720
Speaker 1: her husband has, she still has to acquiesce to what

3360
03:06:12,000 --> 03:06:17,240
Speaker 1: to their request. It's an illusion of inclusion.

3361
03:06:17,680 --> 03:06:19,680
Speaker 7: It only looks that way to us because we look

3362
03:06:19,720 --> 03:06:22,840
Speaker 7: at the outside in. If you if you, if you

3363
03:06:23,040 --> 03:06:25,879
Speaker 7: go you know, one degree and start to look back out,

3364
03:06:26,640 --> 03:06:29,360
Speaker 7: it's not as pretty as you think it is. You

3365
03:06:29,520 --> 03:06:33,240
Speaker 7: may we might say she has cloud, but who's signing

3366
03:06:33,280 --> 03:06:34,080
Speaker 7: her checks.

3367
03:06:36,120 --> 03:06:36,400
Speaker 3: Through that?

3368
03:06:36,560 --> 03:06:41,840
Speaker 1: Somebody else has to sign her checks. Professor Griff, You

3369
03:06:42,080 --> 03:06:44,280
Speaker 1: you coach, you teach young people to get into the

3370
03:06:44,280 --> 03:06:47,000
Speaker 1: business you tell and the business part of it also

3371
03:06:47,200 --> 03:06:50,000
Speaker 1: the musical part of it, the talent part of it.

3372
03:06:50,120 --> 03:06:52,360
Speaker 1: You do all of that. How can folks reach you?

3373
03:06:52,600 --> 03:06:54,840
Speaker 1: And again, what are the books that you have out?

3374
03:06:55,160 --> 03:06:56,920
Speaker 1: People listening all over the country want to pick up

3375
03:06:56,920 --> 03:06:58,400
Speaker 1: some of your books and how can they get them?

3376
03:07:00,440 --> 03:07:02,880
Speaker 7: Well, they could reach me at six five five seven,

3377
03:07:02,959 --> 03:07:05,000
Speaker 7: two nine one nine, or they can go to my

3378
03:07:05,080 --> 03:07:08,920
Speaker 7: website www dot Professor Griff dot me. The books that

3379
03:07:09,000 --> 03:07:12,680
Speaker 7: I put out call I talked about you know, symbology,

3380
03:07:12,920 --> 03:07:15,240
Speaker 7: the symbolism and what's going on not only in music

3381
03:07:15,320 --> 03:07:18,360
Speaker 7: industry but black culture. And I specifically talked about hip

3382
03:07:18,360 --> 03:07:22,080
Speaker 7: hop and my book The Psychological Covert War on hip Hop.

3383
03:07:23,040 --> 03:07:25,920
Speaker 7: My latest book is now you know of giving young

3384
03:07:26,680 --> 03:07:30,359
Speaker 7: parents a tool to teach young people about frequencies, vibration

3385
03:07:30,680 --> 03:07:33,160
Speaker 7: and what's going on and hip hop. Once again, they

3386
03:07:33,160 --> 03:07:35,320
Speaker 7: could reach me at six seven eight five five to

3387
03:07:35,400 --> 03:07:38,200
Speaker 7: seven two nine one nine. That's the best way to

3388
03:07:38,240 --> 03:07:42,480
Speaker 7: reach me, Concer. They're redirecting URLs and people can't reach me.

3389
03:07:42,600 --> 03:07:44,600
Speaker 7: They thought they got the right email address and this

3390
03:07:44,720 --> 03:07:48,400
Speaker 7: kind of thing, and they're making it very difficult for

3391
03:07:48,560 --> 03:07:52,080
Speaker 7: me to connect with people to get them to get

3392
03:07:52,120 --> 03:07:53,800
Speaker 7: their kids and their children that want to be in

3393
03:07:53,840 --> 03:07:57,480
Speaker 7: the music industry this information. But anyway, my email address

3394
03:07:57,480 --> 03:08:01,000
Speaker 7: is serious Minds info at gmail dot com or serious

3395
03:08:01,120 --> 03:08:07,000
Speaker 7: si US, Serious mind am I, Ndzinflo at gmail dot com.

3396
03:08:08,280 --> 03:08:11,320
Speaker 1: All right, then just google it, Professor Griff and Fessor Griff.

3397
03:08:11,480 --> 03:08:12,960
Speaker 1: Let me just thank you for what you do, man,

3398
03:08:12,959 --> 03:08:16,000
Speaker 1: because you expose a lot of the stuff that's going

3399
03:08:16,040 --> 03:08:18,080
Speaker 1: on in the music industry that we don't know about,

3400
03:08:18,160 --> 03:08:20,039
Speaker 1: and you're brave enough to do it as well, because

3401
03:08:20,240 --> 03:08:22,400
Speaker 1: some of the folks know and they will not speak

3402
03:08:22,400 --> 03:08:25,280
Speaker 1: because they're thinking about themselves and their career. But you

3403
03:08:25,400 --> 03:08:27,280
Speaker 1: were out there, and you've been out there for quite

3404
03:08:27,280 --> 03:08:30,039
Speaker 1: a while doing this. Even when you were with Public Enemy,

3405
03:08:30,200 --> 03:08:31,760
Speaker 1: you were doing this. So I just want to thank

3406
03:08:31,800 --> 03:08:32,120
Speaker 1: you for that.

3407
03:08:32,360 --> 03:08:35,520
Speaker 7: Right, oh, gift. Thanks, I appreciate you, call it. Thanks,

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Speaker 7: thanks for your listening this man, I really appreciate them all.

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Speaker 1: Right, first of griff and anytime you need to speak,

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Speaker 1: just let us know. I'm family. That's it for the day.

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Speaker 1: That's it for the year as well, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Next time we speak it will be twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 1: So family, classes dismissed. Stay strong, stay positive, please please

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Speaker 1: stay healthy. We'll see you tomorrow morning, first day of

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, right here in Baltimore on ten t

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Speaker 1: WLB and also in the DMV on fourteen fifty WOL