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Speaker 2: Indeed we are week fifteen of the NFL season, and boy,

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Speaker 2: flip that hour glass right over. The soap opera continues,

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Speaker 2: no shortage of entertainment, Eddie. I was talking with one

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Speaker 2: of the Colts people today and I forget what their

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Speaker 2: It's like the I don't know, win inspire entertained. Well,

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Speaker 2: they certainly are doing the entertaining part of it here.

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Speaker 2: Philip Rivers chatter on today's podcast.

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Speaker 1: Were we onto something Monday? Can we get some credit?

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Speaker 3: I give you all the credit because I laughed it

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Speaker 3: a little birdie, just a.

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Speaker 2: Little birdie that thought maybe maybe Philip Rivers. Now, did

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Speaker 2: I think he'd be starting six days later after saying

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Speaker 2: loves himself some Philip Rivers. And if you watch today's

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Speaker 2: Prescote Offense, you got a highly energized Shane Stacking, to

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Speaker 2: say the least. So we're gonna break it all down

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Speaker 2: for you one of the best teams in the NFL,

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Speaker 2: Quite the impression, I guess for Philip Rivers, because right

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Speaker 2: now I think he's starting. Eddie, let's just not beat

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Speaker 1: How you doing, I'm doing fine.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: It's that time of the year where you know, you

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, this this storyline is dominated things here,

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Speaker 1: But Eddie, let's start with the news of the week.

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Speaker 1: And that is what.

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Speaker 2: If I told you on August first, Philip Rivers would

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Speaker 2: He said before practice he expected no limitation with his

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Speaker 2: I think he looks at his football team right now,

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Speaker 1: That's how they're doing this chess match it.

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Speaker 2: As Philip Rivers said, very accurate today, we got to

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Speaker 2: I don't have any other good ideas, you know, when

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Speaker 3: You've already talked about how good Seattle is defensively, especially

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Speaker 1: Let's get to Jack Doyle.

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Speaker 2: The man who last caught a touchdown in a two

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Speaker 5: that the last time that Philip Rivers threw a touchdown

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Speaker 5: for the Indianapolis Colts Markers. That's just the one we found.

437
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,120
Speaker 5: I know I might be asking for too much there,

438
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Speaker 5: but either way, those guys hooked up a few times

439
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Speaker 5: for touchdowns and Kevin did a nice job lining this

440
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Speaker 5: up finding Jack Doyle, who's joining us now on the

441
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Speaker 5: Payless Liquors hotline this morning. Does that bring any memories

442
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,440
Speaker 5: back for you? You ready to come back and play and

443
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 5: maybe back up Tyler Warren?

444
00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:58,680
Speaker 1: We ready to go.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't know about all that, but that definitely

446
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 4: brings back some good memories. And you know it also

447
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 4: brings back man, I wish we would have won that

448
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 4: freaking playoff game in Buffalo is what it makes me think.

449
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 4: But but no, that was fun and obviously getting that

450
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Speaker 4: year with Philip was it was.

451
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Speaker 2: It was a was a blast, Jack that that two

452
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Speaker 2: point conversion was a hell of a catch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I just went back and watched it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, No, that was a that was a Philip play,

455
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Speaker 4: you know, and it was a you know, we were

456
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Speaker 4: in I think we were in twelve personnel. I think

457
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Speaker 4: it was me and Trey out there, and Phil knew

458
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Speaker 4: how to get you know, the sub guy went unguarded

459
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 4: Trey and then you know he kind of got doubled

460
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 4: in the middle, so we knew I'd be opening the

461
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Speaker 4: back and again that was that's a credit to what

462
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 4: Philip could draw up man and he kind of saw

463
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Speaker 4: that on film and we knew that was a two

464
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Speaker 4: point play going into the game.

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Speaker 2: Well, as Jeff said, we appreciate the time here. Jack

466
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Speaker 2: Doyle with us on the Payloff Stickers Hotline. We traded

467
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Speaker 2: a few texts yesterday. Your response, football is life for

468
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Speaker 2: mister Rivers. Could you touch on the football side during

469
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Speaker 2: COVID year that you got to witness with Philip Rivers.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, that was a shout out to the

471
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Speaker 4: ted Laso fans and Danny rohauston football his life. That's

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Speaker 4: what I think about when I think of Philip. You know,

473
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Speaker 4: you know, the thing that comes to mind with Philip

474
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 4: is just he's such a unique character. And I say

475
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 4: that in the best way possible. And this guy is

476
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Speaker 4: just a football junkie and it's football the time, and

477
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,439
Speaker 4: you know, he was such a great teammate in his mind.

478
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Speaker 4: You know, That's what I couldn't get over, just how

479
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 4: he just would get us in the right play over

480
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 4: and over and that's run and pass, and you know,

481
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Speaker 4: you could we would be sitting in a meeting and

482
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Speaker 4: you know, say we're preparing for the Steelers or something,

483
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 4: and there you know, heavy sasas pressure, and Philip would

484
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 4: be like, oh yeah, you know talking to Nick Siriana

485
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 4: nick Gianni who was off in square of time. Oh

486
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Speaker 4: I remember we we had this with the Chargers in fourteen.

487
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 4: I think it was like, you know, our second drive

488
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Speaker 4: of the third quarter. Can you go look up that

489
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Speaker 4: play and show it to the guys, And it'd be

490
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Speaker 4: like right on point. He knew exactly what play it was,

491
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Speaker 4: what would the pressure was, and how they kind of

492
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Speaker 4: attacked it, and it's just a It just shows how

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Speaker 4: his brain kind of works and how he's wired.

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Speaker 1: Jack.

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Speaker 6: Thanks again, for joining the show. James Boyd. Here, I'm

496
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Speaker 6: going to ask the hard hitting questions on this show.

497
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Speaker 6: So with Philip Rivers and him knowing notoriously not to curse,

498
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Speaker 6: is he the best trash talker who doesn't say any

499
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Speaker 6: bad words.

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Speaker 4: Yes, he's the best trash talker period that I ever

501
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 4: played with. Okay, I mean he does not stop, and

502
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 4: it's all in fun, and he's just the ultimate competitor

503
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,360
Speaker 4: and he gets under guy's skin which is hilarious. And

504
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 4: he's just such a great teammate.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: That's you know, not knowing anything about him, and he

507
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 4: you know, he when he showed up in twenty twenty,

508
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 4: and you know, I'm you know, I'm thinking that my

509
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 4: memory of Philip Rivers is like, man, I didn't like

510
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Speaker 4: this guy. You know, I was a Colts fan growing up,

511
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 4: and you know, he knocked the Colts out of the

512
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 4: playoffs there and in the two thousands or whatever, I

513
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 4: can't remember the years, but you know, and he was

514
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 4: always talking trash to the fans. I'm like, man, I

515
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 4: don't like this guy that he came in and he

516
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 4: just carries himself in a way that like all he

517
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 4: wanted to do was be a good teammate, get to

518
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Speaker 4: know his get to know the other players, and just

519
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Speaker 4: be one of the guys. And I just have so

520
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 4: much respect for him.

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Speaker 6: I need Philip Rivers micd up immediately, like from the

522
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Speaker 6: time he lands in Indianapolis to get ready for practice today.

523
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Speaker 6: But one more and more serious note, when you look

524
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Speaker 6: at his career, the man is accomplished darn near everything

525
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 6: in the NFL, say for the Super Bowl win, but

526
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 6: counting stats, longevity, respect from peers, all of that. So

527
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Speaker 6: when you factor in perhaps the respect that he still

528
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Speaker 6: has in that locker room, how much do you think

529
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Speaker 6: that helps? Because you know, unlike someone who normally we

530
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Speaker 6: stepping into these disposition, he still knows I would say,

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Speaker 6: what ten starters for the Colts right now, or at

532
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 6: least about seven or eight. So do you think that'll

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Speaker 6: help just him ease back into things when it comes

534
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Speaker 6: to trying to restart his NFL career.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. I mean, I mean, the cults are

536
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 4: real on a little little bit over this past month,

537
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 4: and I wish I was in the Wednesday Offensive meeting

538
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Speaker 4: that's coming up, you know, probably here in the next

539
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Speaker 4: hour or so, and and just the energy that Phillip's

540
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Speaker 4: going to bring to that room is something that's unmatched.

541
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Speaker 4: And and I can imagine being up there and you know,

542
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Speaker 4: who knows what's going to happen, but him going through

543
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 4: you know the you know, the his cadence and and

544
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Speaker 4: how his kind of tone is with his cadence, and

545
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 4: and and all kinds of different things. He just he's

546
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Speaker 4: going to bring an energy to that group and and

547
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Speaker 4: and hopefully kind of wake us up over there on

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Speaker 4: West fifty sixth Street.

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Speaker 5: What what do you think this offense with him under center,

550
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Speaker 5: coming out of a five year retirement, what's it going

551
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 5: to look like? Realistically? Tell us what those first two

552
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Speaker 5: series are going to be.

553
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 4: Well, he'll have no like, the plays will be the same.

554
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 4: He'll have no problem you know, knowing the play calls.

555
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 4: He can show up there and and and call any

556
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 4: play that they're running right now. You know, maybe the

557
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 4: checks and things like that, you know, they'll have to

558
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 4: kind of, you know, figure out because maybe Daniel had

559
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 4: things a certain way or you know, stuff from his

560
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 4: past that they've kind of emulated in their offense. But

561
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 4: he'll he'll know what he's doing. He'll and he'll be

562
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 4: able to communicate with the guys. You know, if I

563
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Speaker 4: had to guess, I could see them going some sort

564
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 4: of up tempo and just kind of trying to keep

565
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 4: it simple and you know, him getting you in the

566
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 4: right play and maybe that takes the crowd out of

567
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 4: it a little bit and he's able to communicate and

568
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 4: just getting guys up to the line and just figuring

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Speaker 4: out the you know, the best play for the Colts

570
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 4: to be in.

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Speaker 5: Are the Seahawks just going to throw the kitchen sink

572
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 5: a him from a blitz pack?

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Speaker 4: In his perspective, yes, I mean that's what I would do.

574
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 4: And you know they're gonna have to prove, you know,

575
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 4: and the Colts kind of got to prove that anyways

576
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 4: they get they got to gash somebody with with with

577
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 4: all the pressure they're seeing, you know, in the run

578
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 4: or pass game, it doesn't really matter. But the thing

579
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,479
Speaker 4: about Phil is like, like like I was mentioning earlier,

580
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 4: he's seen every blitz and you know he'll Phil there

581
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 4: was times when he call out the defensive guy for saying,

582
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 4: you know, you know, telling the linebacker he's supposed to

583
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 4: be bossed over a little more because they're about to

584
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 4: bring this SaaS pressure or whatever it is, like, hey,

585
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 4: you're miss aligned. Your coach is gonna yell at you

586
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,479
Speaker 4: like you're supposed to be. He just is. He's so unique.

587
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 4: The way his brain works is just awesome. I mean,

588
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 4: late in that twenty year I feel like a lot

589
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 4: of my catches were on checks that he made at

590
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 4: the line for just from seeing, you know, different things.

591
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 4: We'd be in a run call and he sees a

592
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 4: pressure coming and he get us in a in a

593
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 4: quick pass or something like that to kind of take

594
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Speaker 4: advantage of it. So they're just again, his brain is

595
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 4: just so unique in the way it's wired. And if

596
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 4: anybody can do this, I mean, it's it's freaking Philip Rivers.

597
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Speaker 2: That's Jack Doyle Jack Oil podcast over in the Colts

598
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 2: Audio Network's been a great listen all year long with

599
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 2: Jack and Matt Taylor, and Jack's with us here on

600
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 2: the Payloss Slickers hotline. Jack, I don't remember. I think

601
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Speaker 2: it's been a trend a little bit more here in

602
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Speaker 2: recent years league wide, the Colts have definitely started it.

603
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 2: Did did Frank do you walk through Wednesdays late in

604
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 2: seasons very often with you guys?

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Speaker 4: You know, I thinking back we were doing walkthrough. I

606
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 4: feel like we were doing them on Thursdays. I don't

607
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 4: know if that's right. I might be completely wrong.

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Speaker 1: Practice walk through Thursday walk through.

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00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, and given guys a day in the middle of

610
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 4: it was kind of our schedule. But yeah, I think

611
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 4: I think especially when they added the extra game, I

612
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 4: think that's probably when it became more prevalent around the league.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I bring that up. The Colts have done

614
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Speaker 2: the walk through Wednesday last two weeks since the signing

615
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,479
Speaker 2: of Philip Rivers yesterday, they now have changed their practice schedule.

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Speaker 2: They'll go all three days starting today, Thursday and Friday.

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Speaker 2: Last one from me, and it's just more of a

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Speaker 2: reminiscing story the Josh Freeman Ryan Linley week for you guys.

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Speaker 2: This is I would say this is probably the most

620
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Speaker 2: dire in season weekly quarterback situation I can recall for

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Speaker 2: the Colts since that week. I forget which season was fifteen, sixteen,

622
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Speaker 2: something like that. What do you remember about that week

623
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Speaker 2: in which you guys literally had to get two quarterbacks

624
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Speaker 2: ready to play?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it was the last game of twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, we went in with I remember Clyde going

627
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Speaker 4: up there and kind of going through, you know, the game,

628
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Speaker 4: playing with the quarterbacks, and Josh Freeman did all the

629
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Speaker 4: you know, bass stuff right, and he was running the offense.

630
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Speaker 4: And then Ryan Limley came in on two minute drill

631
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Speaker 4: and then that's how they kind of prepared him both

632
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Speaker 4: and they both were successful. I think Ryan Limley. I

633
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Speaker 4: don't know if we went down and got a touchdown,

634
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 4: but there was a two minute drill in that game

635
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 4: where I know we went down and got points. So yeah,

636
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 4: it worked out well. But you know, the thing that

637
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 4: I remember most is, you know, it was late in

638
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,479
Speaker 4: the year and you know, obviously we had you know,

639
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 4: we had lost Andrew and then I think we had

640
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 4: lost and then Matt got hurt down in Miami the

641
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 4: game before, and you know, you kind of walk in

642
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 4: there with you know, your head's kind of hanging low,

643
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 4: and then you kind of walking back up by this

644
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 4: you know, new point and and and everyone's kind of

645
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 4: rejuvenized and and and you go out there and just

646
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 4: play football and see what happens. So hopefully, you know,

647
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 4: Philip can have that kind of effect on the on

648
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Speaker 4: the locker room coming in today.

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00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 5: Last thing I gotta know jacket. Honestly, after you heard

650
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Speaker 5: about this last night, you and any of your former

651
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,959
Speaker 5: teammates have any kind of a text chain going on

652
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 5: about can you believe this?

653
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Speaker 1: Or anything like that.

654
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I was texted with Moe ali Cox

655
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 4: yesterday and I was just like, Mo, you could write

656
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 4: a book on your story as a Colts player. I mean,

657
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 4: all the stuff that's kind of you know, you know

658
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 4: going on with you know, obviously Andrew's retirement, and you know,

659
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 4: Jeff's Saturday coming in to coach, and then now this.

660
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 4: I mean, he's just he's he's been through it in

661
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 4: his career. But man, it's gonna be a heck again.

662
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 4: I I have no reason to doubt Philip Rivers. I

663
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 4: know there's people saying, you know, some people are laughing

664
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 4: at this, calling it crazy, all that fun stuff. But

665
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 4: Philip's got to prove to me that he can't do it,

666
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 4: because you know, I won't doubt that man for one second.

667
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 5: Good stuff, Jack, Thanks for joining us. We appreciate that

668
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 5: you're teaching high school right now.

669
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 4: Right middle school, middle school. I'm off today though, just

670
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 4: Monday Fridays sounds good.

671
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: Enjoy it. We'll talk to you soon. Thanks Jack. Thanks again.

672
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: That was our fan morning show on Wednesday.

673
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 2: I always appreciate Jack Doyle and a day off from

674
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 2: his teaching over there at Saint Pias to provide some

675
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 2: insights with us, Eddie, lest you got anything else, We've

676
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 2: got Twitter questions, we got a game to pick.

677
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,479
Speaker 3: We have a lot of Twitter questions to get too.

678
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 3: We will start with Luke. The signing of Philip Rivers

679
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,959
Speaker 3: is entertaining in a vacuum, and I'll never fault fellow

680
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 3: fans for getting excited. I'm hopeful he does well too.

681
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 3: By big picture, this feels like the latest in what

682
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 3: has become a pattern of erratic and a logical moves

683
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 3: for the Colts, as well as a far cry from

684
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 3: the sound this is making and consistency of a successful organization.

685
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 3: Is this just the last gasp to save the season

686
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 3: and jobs or is this the new blueprint for the

687
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 3: way the Colts will do business? While this and Jeff

688
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 3: Saturday are amusing, it's getting kind of hard to take

689
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 3: this organization seriously.

690
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Luke, thank you for the question. To me, Eddie,

691
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 2: embarrassing is potentially an eleventh straight year of not winning

692
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 2: the AFC South, one of the longest playoff routes in

693
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 2: the NFL one of the what thirty plus year one

694
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 2: of the longest droughts your franchisees had playoff wise in

695
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 2: over thirty years.

696
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: Like that, to me is more of the embarrassment level,

697
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: like this is. I don't know.

698
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm just numb to some of the organizational decisions

699
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 2: that we've had, but I don't necessarily group this in that.

700
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 2: I mean, you are down to if you want to

701
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 2: call Ridley Leonard hurt, which I guess is a little

702
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 2: bit up in the air right now. You are down

703
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 2: to your fourth string quarterback. You know, It's what Cleveland

704
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 2: a few years ago with Flacco. I mean, that type

705
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 2: of situation and when you get into week fifteen. And

706
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 2: this is part of the reason why I said what

707
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 2: I said on Monday about rivers of Like, I mean,

708
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 2: it is potentially possible that you could make a call

709
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 2: like that, and it would make sense for you to

710
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 2: make that call and for him to possibly start on Sunday,

711
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 2: as crazy as that sounds. So again, I just to me,

712
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 2: it's not at the levels of other.

713
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: Sorts of.

714
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 2: Sorts of embarrassment. So that's why I would I would

715
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 2: probably view it. I think this organization has had enough

716
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 2: just general failures from a lack of January success, and

717
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 2: this collapse would qualify as that. I mean, if you

718
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 2: if you literally paused the game when Daniel Jones got

719
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 2: hurt on Sunday, Eddie, you know, the culture out of

720
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 2: the playoffs, like literally yeah.

721
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: At that point.

722
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 2: So you know, I don't think it's fair to look

723
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 2: at the end of the season just say, well, if

724
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones doesn't get hurt, the cult to make the playoffs, well,

725
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 2: I mean technically they were out of it at that point,

726
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 2: and given the schedule, did you have any faith that

727
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 2: was going to turn around? And we'll see, you know,

728
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 2: crazy things can happen. Can Jonathan Taylor creased a couple?

729
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 2: And it's a rain game and the ball bounces your

730
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: way a couple of times?

731
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: Who knows?

732
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 3: Cole and Jamie ask you similar questions, so they are

733
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 3: looped together. The answer may change with injury to Riley Leonard,

734
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 3: But could he be the twenty twenty two version of

735
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones lots of running with some timely passing sprinkled in.

736
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 2: You know, I've touched on Leonard a lot, you know,

737
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 2: Eddie since he was drafted, and just to reiterate everything,

738
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 2: bless you for the one hundred and eighty ninth pick

739
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 2: in the draft. Riley Leonard was a great pick by

740
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 2: the Colts. He has a lot of traits you want

741
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 2: in a quarterback. He's got leadership, he's got toughness, he

742
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,280
Speaker 2: can make plays with his legs, he's got good size,

743
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 2: a lot of experience. Sure, I mean, you know what

744
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:18,439
Speaker 2: he did with Duke and Notre Dame.

745
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: What did he do?

746
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 2: He elevated both of those situations. That to me is

747
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 2: super attractive. So why the hell did he drop till

748
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:31,479
Speaker 2: one eighty nine? Because he can't operate from the pocket, so.

749
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: That and also unfortunately he was banged up a lot

750
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: in college.

751
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 2: And again he's tough, he plays through so much of it.

752
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 2: But you know, you can't ignore any of that. So stylistically,

753
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 2: you know, I was intrigued and I guess maybe I

754
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 2: still am, depending on where the knee is at, about

755
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 2: a Riley Leonard offense in an actual game, like with

756
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 2: with with a week of prep, you know, could you

757
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 2: make it look very collegey with that? I think that

758
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 2: would be something to really really keep an eye. By

759
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 2: the way, hit me when old Phil Rivers was talking today.

760
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 2: His second career start in college in Bloomington, Indiana, yep.

761
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 2: Forty one to thirty eight. He throws for four hundred

762
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 2: yards five touchdowns out duels. I don't think it was

763
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: much of a duel, but he Antoine Randa Well, the

764
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 2: opposing quarterback. NC State then beat Indiana that next year

765
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 2: as well in Raleigh, the position coach for Philip Rivers.

766
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: In the year two thousand. That's a great question. I

767
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 1: don't know. I was two years old.

768
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 2: Curtis Signetti, what is his real name, Curtis, I have

769
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 2: no idea.

770
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

771
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 2: My Signetti reaction was we had him on one time

772
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 2: and I tried to make a Hitch analogy. Try to

773
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 2: ask him if I was going to compare him to

774
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 2: Will Smith and Hitch with the IU football program, and

775
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 2: he responded with I've never seen the movie. So yeah,

776
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 2: That's when I realized, Kevin, you're not a good radio host.

777
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 2: You need to stick to what you know. Yeah, how

778
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,959
Speaker 2: about that Philip Rivers Zignetti ask him. It's all full

779
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,919
Speaker 2: full circle. Yeah, I'm gona ask him next week. Yeah,

780
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 2: A million questions this week.

781
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 4: Uh.

782
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 1: Craig is next. Is that your Franklin playing that bad?

783
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: Or are my eyes lying to me? One to ten

784
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: odds in your opinion he gets cut this offseason.

785
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 2: Well, I think anybody from a guaranteed money standpoint, particularly

786
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 2: if there's change, you know, anything is on the table.

787
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: I don't know.

788
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 2: If there's thirty two Mike linebackers in the league, where

789
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 2: would you rank Zire Franklin.

790
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: I'd probably rank him like I don't know, a.

791
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:40,240
Speaker 2: Little above average. I mean, you know, think about linebacker.

792
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 2: It's kind of similar to corner and away. I mean

793
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 2: they're around the ball so much you do notice their

794
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 2: mistakes a lot or their mistackles a lot. Again, I

795
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 2: think he's a fine player, little above average player. But

796
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 2: as far as cutting him, I mean, Eddie, what's the future.

797
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,479
Speaker 2: I think Jalen Carli's played two defensive snaps last week.

798
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 2: It's not like Jermaine Pratt is very young at all.

799
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 2: You know, one thing I was thinking about with this

800
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 2: injury situation, because I think this week is probably the

801
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 2: most banged up the Colts have been all season. They

802
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:19,479
Speaker 2: have had unbelievable good health on offense this year until now,

803
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 2: and when you think about it, Daniel Jones takes every

804
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 2: meaningful snap. Jonathan Taylor has not even been on the

805
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 2: injury report this year. They're wide outs. What Downs missed

806
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 2: a game?

807
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: Is that right?

808
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 2: Pierce missed two one, I mean Downs and Pierce combined

809
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 2: and miss like two three games. Obviously, Pittman has been healthy,

810
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 2: Tyler Warren's been healthy, all the tight ends have been healthy.

811
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: And their offensive line.

812
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 2: I mean we're looking at potentially just the third starting

813
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 2: group all year. You've had the same starting five for

814
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 2: what eleven of the games Dalton Tucker started for Gonsolve

815
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 2: is that.

816
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: One game in LA against the.

817
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 2: Rams and then potentially Jalen Travis on Sunday. So the

818
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 2: offense has really been healthy, healthy Obviously. Now it's starting.

819
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,919
Speaker 1: To add up to him here.

820
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think zi yeah, I mean yeah, I

821
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 2: think he's fine. Yeah, And honestly probably because he talks,

822
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,439
Speaker 2: you know, leaves you as a kind of a low

823
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 2: hanging fruit to go after him.

824
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: And he's not quiet either. No no no, no no like

825
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: he yeah, yeah, I mean he wants to talk. Yeah.

826
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 3: Brett hey KB as the glutton for punishment that I am.

827
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,280
Speaker 3: I asked chat GFT to summarize the past ten years

828
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 3: of being an Indianapolis Colts fan. We should use more

829
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 3: chet GPT on this pod.

830
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: Somehow, that sounds a little dangerous for me.

831
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 3: It brought up a lot of horrible memories for me,

832
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 3: but it got me thinking, aside from angel lex retirement,

833
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 3: which is far and away the worst, what other moment

834
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 3: of the past decade would you say was the most awful?

835
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 3: This weekend ranked top three for me, along with the

836
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 3: Josh McDaniels fiasco and the Jeff Saturday experience.

837
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

838
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 2: I's tucking somebody over there today and they were like this,

839
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 2: this isn't even in the top five craziest things over

840
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 2: the last ten years. I'm like, yeah, you're probably right.

841
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 2: I think the damaging aspect of this past weekend, Eddie,

842
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 2: is that potentially takes two years off the board, you know,

843
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 2: the rest of this season, and then we'll see about

844
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 2: next year. You know, I'll go back to Carson Wentz

845
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 2: the end of the twenty one season. I mean, you

846
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: had you had a playoff birth just sitting on a platter,

847
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 2: and just look like Kevin in the office fumbling that

848
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 2: chili just.

849
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: Unbelievable.

850
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 2: How about the Vikings game with Jeff Saturday blowing that

851
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:51,760
Speaker 2: lead worst, right, the worst one NFL history. Yeah, biggest

852
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 2: blue lead in NFL history. And just the weirdness of

853
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 2: it not really anybody's fault. I mean, I know people

854
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 2: like to, you know, blame people for things, but like

855
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 2: the Anthony Richardson Mooney Ward thing and warm up, it's

856
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 2: just wild.

857
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: Just just strictly on the wild meter. But yeah, this is.

858
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 2: You know, the NFL I think has a lot of

859
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 2: wild to it. I think it's maybe the professional sports

860
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 2: league that has the most of it. And I know

861
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:21,919
Speaker 2: we're in our little Colt's bubble, but damn it feels like, yeah,

862
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,280
Speaker 2: it feels like they got a lot.

863
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: Of it, and it's all been post manning, right, post manning. Yeah,

864
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: some might say post luck retirement.

865
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah. Two questions left. Isaac did the first

866
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 3: two months locking Chris Ballard and Shane Stikeen for another year,

867
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 3: or if this collapse continues, are they done? Is it

868
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 3: possible only Ballard and stich In are fired. We've seen

869
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 3: that this roster has tons of talent, but Ballard has

870
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 3: been here longer. Also, if Ballard did stay, do we

871
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 3: really trust him to conduct a head coaching search again,

872
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 3: he brought in Frank Reich and Shane Stike in, both

873
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 3: of which have suffered the same problem and as previously

874
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 3: noted in the last question, Kevin from Brett, you've.

875
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: Got to remember the Josh McDaniels fiasco as well.

876
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 2: So I was thinking about Josh McDaniels this week. You

877
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 2: know why, why is that Leslie Fraser is on the

878
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 2: Seahawks staff. And if memory serves me correct, when McDaniels

879
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 2: left the Colts at the altar, Chris Ballard pivoted to

880
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 2: three head coaching candidates Leslie Fraser, Frank Reich and do.

881
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: You remember the third.

882
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 4: Was? Oh?

883
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 1: Was it Dan Campbell? Daniel Campbell?

884
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 2: Didn't we get a question about culture the other day?

885
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 2: Do you think man Campbell would have instituted a bit

886
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 2: of the sea word into this building?

887
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, here, Yeah, it's funny.

888
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 2: I was asking Stephen Holden, we had him on this morning, like,

889
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 2: do the final four games of the season, potentially a

890
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 2: quarterback by Philip Rivers? Should that decide the fate of

891
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 2: Chris Bowden Shansdyke. I mean, doesn't that sound ludicrous? Can

892
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 2: you imagine saying that a few weeks ago? Now a

893
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 2: few days ago now and again should it. This is

894
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 2: the convo we've had, Eddie, when people ask these sorts

895
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 2: of questions for Ballard, how much do.

896
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:27,879
Speaker 1: You view eight years versus this year? Right?

897
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 2: For Stiking, you know, his sample size is only three years,

898
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 2: so it'd be two years versus this one. And as

899
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 2: I've said before, if you individually graded these two, they

900
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 2: would be.

901
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: A little different for me. You know, if you look

902
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: at it, you.

903
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 2: Know, Stiking with Richardson and Minshew and Flacco and Daniel Jones,

904
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 2: is what four games three games above five hundred as

905
00:44:52,160 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 2: a head coach. Not bad, not great, not awful. Ballard,

906
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 2: whatever the record is, I don't even know what it

907
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 2: is at this point. Obviously we know no division titles

908
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 2: and two playoff appearances and one playoff penn et cetera,

909
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 2: et cetera.

910
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: So I don't know, Isaac.

911
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 2: I mean the trade said everyone is coming back, the

912
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 2: sauce card and trade, right, I mean that's what it's said, Yeah,

913
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 2: everyone's coming back. And I can't get that out of

914
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 2: my brain now to go back the embarrassment and meter,

915
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 2: I believe the stat I've seen thrown out there. I

916
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 2: don't know for sure, but if the Cultsword have missed

917
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 2: the playoffs, it'd be the biggest collapse since the twenty

918
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 2: twelve Bears, I believe. So you know, do you just

919
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: add one more layer of it, a thirteen year level

920
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 2: collapse in the NFL.

921
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

922
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: We had a listener send this in earlier Eddie.

923
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 2: I think his name was Sean, but he basically was

924
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 2: like he's speaking like purely from the fan heard. He's like,

925
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, what I went out

926
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 2: of my teams is for them not to make life

927
00:45:55,760 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 2: harder for me and not to embarrass me, right, And

928
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 2: he's like, the Colts have done the exact opposite for

929
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 2: a decade mm hm. And you hear the tone of

930
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,959
Speaker 2: the questions and you know, we just had the previous question.

931
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 2: I guess you hear that from Sean and it's jarring,

932
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 2: but it's like, damn, I mean, there hasn't been a

933
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 2: lots on the other side of it. And look, I

934
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 2: get professional sports are a bit chaotic, and you know

935
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 2: there's drama with.

936
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 1: It, etcetera, etcetera.

937
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 2: But usually you know, you can have some of that

938
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 2: winning sprinkled in and there just hasn't been as much

939
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 2: of it. So I guess to answer your question, Isaac,

940
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 2: I don't think these final four games should matter because

941
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 2: it's it seems like such an.

942
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 1: Outlier to it all. Yeah, but.

943
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 2: If you're asking me what I think the Colts are

944
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 2: gonna do, I got I guess sitting here right now,

945
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 2: I would I would guess they're all back, just based

946
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 2: off of that trade really not necessarily to do with

947
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 2: like hardcore substance, like have you taken all of a

948
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 2: sudden these massive in the right direction as a franchise.

949
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily feel that unfortunate. I think the Daniel

950
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 2: Jones injury situation does matter in that m hm, you know,

951
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 2: if he's gonna be hindered or hampered or not playing

952
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six, that element of it I don't think, unfortunately,

953
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 2: can be ignored. And you know, do I think this

954
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 2: year has been horrific for Ballad and Stiking by any means? No, No,

955
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 2: I don't. I think it's totally unfair. I think there's

956
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 2: been a lot of positive elements to it, but there

957
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 2: is a little part of it of like does that

958
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 2: all of a sudden mean everyone holds hands and you

959
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 2: running back in twenty twenty six Yeah.

960
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 3: Last question is from John, without looking at the first

961
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 3: nine games in just the past four what positives can

962
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 3: you find from this team currently? Alec Pierce has been

963
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 3: exceptional and I feel like Grover Stewart as well. What

964
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 3: other players or position groups right now gives you optimism

965
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 3: for the long term? Remember these last four weeks only

966
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 3: thanks and John says he never misses a pod.

967
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: Ah, John, thank you greatly appreciate that past four weeks.

968
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 2: Eddie. I still think Ala Peers, I think Alla Pierre

969
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 2: has been the best player on the football team is year.

970
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 2: What is that unfair? Better than twenty eight?

971
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:18,240
Speaker 3: Wait, it's just really tapered off of the run game. Well,

972
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 3: it goes back to the the play calling aspect of

973
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 3: this because.

974
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: I can really only the city game. Well, but hasn't

975
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: been north to twenty carries each the last two weeks.

976
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it doesn't feel like he's been getting those

977
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 3: early game carries, Like you don't get him involved early enough.

978
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have to go back and crunching numbers. I

979
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 1: don't know, I'm probably giving Piers too much credit. And

980
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: how you say it all, I.

981
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 2: Think cam Biden has been a definite hit. Yep, great,

982
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 2: signing by Ballard playmaker. I think special teams, non kicker

983
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 2: divisions largely been pretty good. Yeah, obviously badly had his

984
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 2: struggles there, but yeah, last four weeks, I mean, hell,

985
00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 2: they've lost three of the four games.

986
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 1: It's hard to you know, rip out a bunch of

987
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 1: multi week positives. I mean, how's the old line been

988
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 1: an issue lately? I don't think they have.

989
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 2: Well, I think you have to blame them for some

990
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 2: of the lack of run game, right, I mean, Jonathan

991
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 2: Taylor is getting the ball jonthn Taylor got twenty one

992
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,720
Speaker 2: times last week, twenty one times the week before. Okay,

993
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:26,760
Speaker 2: And if you look at the last five games, Eddie,

994
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 2: these are his yards per carry Taylor last five games,

995
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 2: three point two loss, seven point six win, three point

996
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 2: six loss, four point zero loss, three point five loss.

997
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: When he runs it well, they win. Do you put

998
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 1: that on Taylor or do you put that on the quarterback?

999
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 3: Because we've heard what you know, the Houston players have

1000
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 3: said it prior to the first meeting. You've heard other

1001
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 3: teams say it, like, hey, we got to stop twenty

1002
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 3: eight because that's how you beat them, Like take twenty

1003
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 3: eight out of the game, forced Daniel Jones to be

1004
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 3: the guy.

1005
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think it's yeah, I certainly hear

1006
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 2: you out and all encompassing and the offensive line.

1007
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:02,760
Speaker 1: I think it's had some issues.

1008
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 2: And yes, it's clear that teams have decided this is

1009
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 2: the blueprint on the Colts. So that's where we're at.

1010
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: What do you got? What is a spread? Thirteen and

1011
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: a half? Is that real? I would have to look.

1012
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 2: I think it opened at three and a half and

1013
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 2: then Daniel Jones got hurt and I believe it jumped

1014
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 2: to ten and since then it's gone all the way

1015
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 2: up to thirteen.

1016
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: Maybe north of that it is thirteen and a half.

1017
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: Colt's going for their first win in the United States

1018
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 1: and a month and a half, right, yeah, October twenty

1019
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 1: sixth Your last one here is Seattle count or Seattle

1020
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: part of Canada, Russia? What so far away? I've been

1021
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 1: to Seattle.

1022
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 2: I love Seattle, great place, but it just takes forever

1023
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 2: to get there. Plane ride that will never end.

1024
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: Well, that's all. You have to get a layover in Vegas.

1025
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 2: That's not great, but that's a long travel day in

1026
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 2: more ways than one thirty one thirteen Seahawks. There is

1027
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 2: part of me that says they have the Rams on

1028
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 2: Thursday next week? Do they overthink it? Do they go

1029
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 2: stat hunting? Are they so aggressive that Jonathan Taylor is

1030
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 2: able to hit a crease or two? And is this

1031
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 2: somehow a game? And the weather I think those are

1032
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 2: the things you have to bank on for your Colts fan.

1033
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,720
Speaker 1: But I overcast high of fifty seven.

1034
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 2: Is there rain in the forecast early in the morning? Okay, Well,

1035
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 2: I think rain would favor the Colts. I think coltsnee

1036
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 2: all the elements at their advantage. So thirty one thirteen

1037
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 2: though Seahawks.

1038
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna go thirty four to seventeen. Yeah,

1039
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: you and I on the same page. Unfortunately. Yeah, it's

1040
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: it's worth watching. Ain't that the truth? And we'll see.

1041
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: We'll see how Philip Rivers track's practice this week.

1042
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 2: Rather than his knee. But right now I would say

1043
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,959
Speaker 2: it will be number seven. Yes, Daniel Jones is Jersey

1044
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 2: number to Philip Rivers because he's on IR There you go,

1045
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 2: He's Eddi Garrison, I'm Kevin Bow and everybody. Have a great,

1046
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 2: great week Colts Corner with Kevin Bow and sign it off.