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Speaker 2: The program State House Happening is your weekly look at

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Speaker 2: know it for thirty years in the Indiana Senate. Jim Merritt.

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Speaker 2: Hello Robert, and you know him as the owner operator

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Speaker 4: Good Morgan, my friend.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so obviously this has been several days now, but

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Speaker 2: it's still big news. The redistricting which captivated Indiana politics

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Speaker 2: and government four months has failed. Jim, we'll start with

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Speaker 2: you already won to nineteen. I don't think it's a

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Speaker 2: surprise it failed. I think the surprise for people was

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Speaker 2: quote unquote undecided voted against redistricting, including a majority of Republicans,

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Speaker 2: by vote of twenty twenty one to nineteen.

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Speaker 3: What say you, well, I.

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Speaker 5: Think the whole process has been really interesting. They could

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Speaker 5: but he guided it his patients. He mastered statesmanship in

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Speaker 5: supposing because I haven't talked to him, but I think

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Speaker 5: it was all about playing the clockout and as well

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Speaker 5: and uh, they had a pretty convincing win for for

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Speaker 5: the bill itself. But Senator Bray could have put this

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Speaker 5: but he put it in the Elections Committee, and and

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Speaker 5: Those those senators who voted forward and committee that reserved

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Speaker 5: They wanted to get this bill to the floor so

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Speaker 5: When you know, if you recall a couple of weeks prior,

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Speaker 5: Then the bill goes.

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Speaker 2: Jim because he's the nicest human being that ever lived,

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Speaker 3: What say you?

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Speaker 6: I take the middle road, both of you. Both you

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Speaker 6: guys are absolutely correct. We're going to send the governor grace.

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Speaker 6: I told you, I told you the votes sprint there.

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Speaker 6: I told you, don't do this, governor, but you know

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Speaker 4: A major loss.

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Speaker 6: And it wasn't just a twenty seven, no, twenty six

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Speaker 2: I mean, they pretty much split evenly. It was twenty

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Speaker 2: When Braun comes out, Oh there's small group of senators

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Speaker 5: And ejected this, and Robert and you both know this,

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Speaker 4: When I was in the Senate.

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Speaker 5: But when when we were in caucus, we would not

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Speaker 6: I want to come back to him in a second, Yes,

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Speaker 6: Bray credits, like, now, what you let members vote, their

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Speaker 2: Okay, So you had a obviously did a big xs

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Speaker 2: you said it was interesting, you said because of course

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 2: It's like they just listened. The Republican senators just listened

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Speaker 2: to vote for it. It's awesome, simple, it's Okama's razor. Sometimes

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Speaker 2: the simplet explanation is what it is. The constituents didn't

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Speaker 2: Well we react during COVID, there's that mic up a

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 5: It's interesting because during COVID, Governor Holcomb had seventy executive orders,

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Speaker 5: look at gene Lysning. Yep, yeah, she's she goes to

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Speaker 2: So one of the obviously the sort of person who

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Speaker 2: By the way, this show is exactly right about everything.

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Speaker 2: Do you realize that like our this show, because we

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Speaker 2: talked about this for months, we were exactly right on

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Speaker 2: We were right about the only everything.

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Speaker 5: The only thing I was wrong about is when senter

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Speaker 5: Bray said that we're not going to go to We're

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Speaker 5: not going to have a session December, and number one

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Speaker 6: No, I would argue you weren't wrong, you were right

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Speaker 6: like a little Perils of Pauline where they tire down

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Speaker 2: Well, Braun insulted Bray into doing this. I literally think

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Speaker 2: that that he was Bray was doing it.

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Speaker 5: I don't say this very often, but that's well put yeah, thank.

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Speaker 4: You, thank you.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, I'm the last guy's ever gonna defend

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Speaker 2: Rod Bray can't stand the guy. But I think he

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Speaker 2: did in this case everything in his power to try

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Speaker 2: the time bra had no intention of doing this special session.

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Speaker 2: And then Braun was just such a rotten person about

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Speaker 2: in front of the world, Well, embarrassing in front of

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Speaker 6: And now this whole threat of primary challenge is like

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Speaker 3: I want to come back to that in a second.

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Speaker 2: But first, Greg good because he was sort of seen

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Speaker 2: He ripped into the leap district, which was awesome. And

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Speaker 2: I'm sitting there watching this going that's our show, Like,

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Speaker 2: but I'd be like, you know, obviously I'm not getting

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Speaker 2: for being friends with me, And like, how is the

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Speaker 2: We can see that, And yet these Lebraun and Mike

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Speaker 6: One, we don't have the albatross Donald Trump hanging over

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Speaker 6: our heads kind of point number one. In point number two,

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Speaker 6: if they weren't they if they did think was wrong

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Speaker 6: and want to go against it, it's too late. Now

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Speaker 6: left here. And by the way, uh, at three o'clock

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Speaker 6: as we record this, three o'clock this afternoon, I sit

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Speaker 6: down into the interview with Governor.

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Speaker 5: Bro He actually agreed to do that with you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just all done before all the way?

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Speaker 3: Is it just you or is it everybody?

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Speaker 6: No, we did do Uh, every governor does. Like end

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Speaker 6: of the year, I'm didn't you, but.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, like, is it just you and him together.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I have so many things to slide over you

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Speaker 2: several notes down. You don't even have to read them

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Speaker 2: on the air, just just slide him over his general

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Speaker 2: My first question is, dude, what the hell were you thinking? Well?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that's it's that that that, because that

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Speaker 6: to me sums it up.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he is the biggest loose.

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Speaker 6: You won't remember this, but you probably will remember about

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Speaker 6: thirty years ago Whenhugh Grhant got in told with the

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Speaker 6: the first question Jalen I asked, what the hell were

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Speaker 5: I'm waiting, baited breath on your for your report.

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Speaker 3: How long does this litterview last?

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Speaker 4: About fifteen twenty minutes?

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Speaker 3: I mean what?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So he is the biggest loser in all of this, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, Mike Braun is, without a doubt, if we're

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Speaker 2: going to rank people that looked bad, Mike Braun is

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Speaker 2: the biggest loser because this is now in horribly unclose fashion.

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Speaker 2: Oh for two on his signature to things that he

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Speaker 2: put all his weight behind, which is property taxes and

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Speaker 2: now this right.

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Speaker 5: Well, yes, and you know you look at you look

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Speaker 5: at center Brave being the winner, because he really showed

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Speaker 5: it in a nimbleness. I wish, and you all get

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Speaker 5: tired of hearing me say this, I wish they would

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Speaker 5: have had a nimble aspect to their ground game, if

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Speaker 5: you will, back April fifteenth, because the economy by the

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Speaker 5: end of June when the new budget would take place,

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Speaker 5: had settled down, and they could have had a lot

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Speaker 5: better budget if they would have been a little more

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Speaker 5: nimble in April. But uh, you know, it's we'll talk

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Speaker 5: about this later, but it's always about what you're gonna

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Speaker 5: do next. And with the government with Governor Brown, what

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Speaker 5: we'll just have to.

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Speaker 2: See why would anybody, any of these senators do anything

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Speaker 3: Now at this point, I don't.

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Speaker 5: Think they can or have or have the opportunity because

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Speaker 5: there's no budget. I mean I've said this numerous times,

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Speaker 5: where they in that special session if you will, in December,

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Speaker 5: they could have passed a couple of reforms to send

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Speaker 4: Well he's out.

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure what they can do for the governor

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Speaker 2: And somebody just sent me a clip he being Braun

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Speaker 2: is still there saying Center bil One is some good thing.

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Speaker 3: Like he's just angering everyone by the day.

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Speaker 6: I would I would argue this, at this point, we've

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Speaker 6: just go full forth, because if there's no turning around,

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Speaker 5: So you're saying, if you're the broad administration.

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Speaker 4: Right now, you got nothing to lose because you lost everything.

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Speaker 3: So there's no way for him to recover from this, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean the.

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Speaker 6: I would argue a day of politics is a lifetime

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Speaker 6: and anything can happen, anything can change. However, it does

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Speaker 2: Today because who's his constituency. When you think of all

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Speaker 2: the me people left him when he totally caved on

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Speaker 2: was trying to bring some of that. Now, you never

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Speaker 2: gonna get me back, which means there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: people he's never gonna get back. But that was the

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Speaker 2: same property tax people were some of these same people

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Speaker 2: that were all in on redistricting. And I think that's

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Speaker 2: part of what this is about, like, hey, if I

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Speaker 2: Who well, but in the process he pissed off all

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Speaker 3: So who is his constituency?

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Speaker 5: Governor Brown did make an announcement the other day or

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Speaker 5: his administration did that, Uh, that they've made they have

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Speaker 5: visited Nijou counties already.

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Speaker 4: Well, so diego, how's that going?

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Speaker 5: Yes? And and and he did a really good job

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Speaker 5: during during his US Senate term that he did that

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Speaker 5: on a constant basis in all six years. And I

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Speaker 5: just see if anything that anything fruits from that.

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Speaker 2: what's going on with Indiana politics and government. So from

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Speaker 2: one loser to the next, Uh, the Lieutenant Governor, Yes,

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Speaker 2: how'd you know? Oh boy, wouldn't that some things just right?

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Speaker 3: Then?

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Speaker 4: See powers the clear boye has to be with a

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Speaker 2: So if the biggest loser was Braun, I think a

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Speaker 2: close second is Mica Beck with the Lieutenant governor.

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Speaker 3: Because I'm convinced more than every before.

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Speaker 2: And you guys can refute this or say I don't

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Speaker 2: agree with you that he I think he got Braun

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Speaker 2: to believe that his boys from Turning Point USA had

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Speaker 2: the mightst touch. Right, We're gonna bring these are my

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Speaker 2: guys we're gonna bring them Inna. They're gonna threaten everybody,

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Speaker 2: they're gonna steam roll everybody. We're gonna have rally. It's

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Speaker 2: gonna be great. You sit back, Gov. And watch my

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Speaker 2: boys in action. And they didn't produce anything.

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Speaker 6: Well, I would argue that Turning Point USA lost any

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Speaker 3: And nobody cared about this issue.

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Speaker 5: No, And you know, I'm my friend Micah. I'm a

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Speaker 5: little concerned about him because he will not be renominated

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Speaker 5: to run for lieutenant governor in twenty eight. Yeah, I

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Speaker 5: think that's over.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's touch on that for a second, because there's

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Speaker 2: all this stuff about Danny Lopez, State Rep. From what

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Speaker 2: is carnmels Ionsville area putting this bill for it that

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Speaker 2: would allow the governor to pick his running mate no

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Speaker 2: longer picked at a convention, and of course Beck with

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Speaker 2: a convention. He has zero chance of winning because he's

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Speaker 5: Well, no that I don't believe the governor will support

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Speaker 5: him from the beginning. And number two, uh, his insulting

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Speaker 5: their candidates for being delegate, and and and and just

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Speaker 5: there's just not a sea of your face.

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Speaker 3: Whatever it is.

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Speaker 6: Go, here's the whey I quit this. My wife is

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Speaker 6: the most lovely, even tempered woman in the entire world

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Speaker 6: until you piss her off. And I know I've made

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Speaker 6: a man which says nothing to me like hun funny,

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Speaker 6: go ahead, do whatever you want to do.

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Speaker 3: She's had a few drinks.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, to the combination of that vault.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but basically like you want to do this, fine,

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Speaker 6: go ahead, how's that working out for you? And because

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Speaker 6: them a bunch of rhinos, and and then accused of

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Speaker 6: like being in bed with the Massachusetts Speaker of the House.

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Speaker 6: I was like, what the hell like Maryland, Yeah, Maryland, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: Like what the heck are you talking about?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: And then this map that they've been used, like, no, well,

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Speaker 6: Massachusetts has nine districts, but they were Republicans. Like, well,

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Speaker 6: but most of those nine district in the Boston area

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Speaker 6: and the Boston aarios where most of the people.

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Speaker 5: Live, and that's where jerrymandarein comes from.

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Speaker 2: Yes, well, and that's you keep asking those people. Okay,

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Speaker 2: draw me that Massachusetts map where all these Republican seats are. Now,

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Speaker 2: go ahead, show me what the map looks like where

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Speaker 2: these Republican seats are. Nobody will do it because they

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Speaker 2: can't do it. You can get some districts that might

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Speaker 2: be closer, but then you're gonna make every other district

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Speaker 2: eighty twenty or ninety ten, and you can just make

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Speaker 2: those one or two districts swing districts. They're not guaranteed

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Speaker 2: Republican district and.

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Speaker 6: Even if Andy of if you look at the math

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Speaker 6: that they drew, there was no guarantee that Republicans would win.

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Speaker 6: You just basically made Marion County less Republican and made

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Speaker 6: the other ones more democratic.

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Speaker 5: That's all you did. Yeah, and you know it comes.

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Speaker 5: I saw my friend Senator Blake Dorio talking about why

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Speaker 5: he voted against the bill, and they split Elkhart County

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Speaker 5: in half. Yeah, and that you know, they really rely

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Speaker 5: on Rudy Yakam. They they love Rudy Yakam and they

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Speaker 5: didn't want to be represented by two two members of

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Speaker 5: Congress splitting it. And uh he and he had a

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Speaker 5: really a lot of great reasons of voting against the

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Speaker 5: bill other than you know what others have said so

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Speaker 5: doing these days.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is the thing. All of these people look

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Speaker 2: so bad. Whether it's these US reps who are all

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Speaker 2: for it now some guys like I don't know, Messmer,

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Speaker 2: I didn't hear a whole lot from him, or uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, Baird, I didn't hear a whole lot. I mean,

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Speaker 2: they were for it. But guys like Stutsman who were

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Speaker 2: all in on this, or the Senate side, Jim Banks,

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Speaker 2: clearly nobody cares what you guys have to say, because

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Speaker 2: that was ignored in the order in which it's received.

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Speaker 5: You know, I wanted to call Marlin and and talk

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Speaker 5: to him about this because.

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Speaker 2: Let me know, when you when you when you call,

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Speaker 2: because I got a few things to say to him

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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I may have seen it play out on social media.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't want to really waste my time because

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Speaker 5: he's so deep into this, but he's you know, this

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Speaker 5: sounds silly, but he said some really hurtful things about

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Speaker 5: the Indian Ascentive, which he was a member of.

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Speaker 3: He said some hurtful things about me.

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Speaker 5: Well, screw the Senate.

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Speaker 4: How that's what he said, screw the Senate.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is and this is the whole overarching theme

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Speaker 2: of this is clearly Indiana was not for this, and

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Speaker 2: clearly Indiana Republicans were not for this.

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Speaker 3: And the concerning part of it is, we were doing

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Speaker 3: all of.

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Speaker 2: This for one guy in Washington, and if this guy

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Speaker 2: has this much power over our elected officials that they

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Speaker 2: can do something that clearly nobody in terms of the

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Speaker 2: populace is for what. I mean, what are we doing here?

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Speaker 2: That is not the way this is supposed to be. Well,

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Speaker 2: he obviously doesn't have that power, but it had the

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Speaker 2: ability to push this thing to the ends of the earth.

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Speaker 2: Sure though it had no chance of passing, But in

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Speaker 2: the end he did not and at the end of

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Speaker 2: the day.

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Speaker 6: I think it's rather ironic that the first real official

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Speaker 6: demise that the Trump administration came to the state of Indiana.

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Speaker 6: He won by twenty something odd points. Yeah, it's it's

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Speaker 6: the old episode of Twilight's one where the guy goes

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Speaker 6: to the fortune teller, you're gonna die, get hit by

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Speaker 6: a truck, and so he does everything to get hit

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Speaker 6: by a truck. At the end of the day, that's

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Speaker 6: what gets makes them get hit by the truck.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you're you're You're one hundred percent correct. And

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Speaker 2: and it's such a bad look because look, the Trump

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Speaker 2: based that. I'm not saying people who voted for Trump.

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Speaker 2: I was saying the people who are just like all

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Speaker 2: Trump all the time, no matter how ridiculous the thing is, Hey,

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Speaker 2: we'll find a way to excuse it. That's like twenty

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Speaker 2: five or thirty percent of the populace. And when you

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Speaker 2: are catering to that, you're not gonna get public policy

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Speaker 2: that the public is going to agree with, because a

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Speaker 2: lot of the public, even they voted for him, they're

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Speaker 2: not huge fans of him. Just the Democrats are just

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Speaker 2: so unacceptable.

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Speaker 6: When you came to the thirty percent of the population

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Speaker 6: lose the other seventy percent. Yeah, you're right, Well, it's

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Speaker 6: we've all been a lot like these days. What the

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Speaker 6: hell's going on with this progress?

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Speaker 3: Don't worry. I'm that's about to come to an end soon.

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Speaker 5: No income that Republican State Center is going to lose

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Speaker 5: a primary. No, that's just not gonna happen.

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Speaker 4: And what are you gonna run on?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, because because supposedly Turning Point USA now, because

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Speaker 2: they're sitting on all that money that Charlie Kirk raised

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Speaker 2: when he was alive, and they got thoroughly embarrassed, Like

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Speaker 2: Turning Point USA just looked ridiculous in all this and

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Speaker 2: totally ineffective. And it does give credence to the idea

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Speaker 2: of maybe one guy was bigger than the whole operation.

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Speaker 2: And who knows whether these guys are how they're going

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Speaker 2: to exist in two or three years. But they're supposedly

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Speaker 2: throwing around like insane numbers that they're gonna fund these

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Speaker 2: candidates with, And it's like, why don't you just spend

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Speaker 2: that money to win the first congressional district. If you're

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Speaker 2: talking ten million dollars for four or five Senate races,

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Speaker 2: why wouldn't you just pump all that money into a

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Speaker 2: getting a good candidate in the first it's a swing district,

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Speaker 2: all that money, try to win the district. Instead, you're

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Speaker 2: gonna spend this on a it primary where either way

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Speaker 2: you're going to have a Republican and let's say you

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Speaker 2: get one of them. So you spent ten mili potentially

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Speaker 2: to get one state.

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Speaker 5: Senate or or use that ten million. They've done great

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Speaker 5: work on college campuses for the Republican Party and for

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Speaker 5: the Conservative movement. Spend that money on fortifying it and

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Speaker 5: and going forward with the message, and and and bringing

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Speaker 5: kids back or into the process. Because that's what I

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Speaker 5: saw as being so powerful for them, is that that

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Speaker 5: they understood the issues, they were involved, they were excited

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Speaker 5: and as a whole, rather than you know, focusing on

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Speaker 5: a very very Republican state.

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Speaker 6: Most Nico salesmen usually know what their constituents want. Yes,

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Speaker 6: because I know what to sell something, I got to

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Speaker 6: create a need for it first, right, Right, Well, so yeah.

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Speaker 2: And we got about a minute left here, So what

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Speaker 2: is the next Well, we're going to run a time.

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Speaker 2: We'll do this in two weeks when we all get

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Speaker 2: back together. We've got a kind of a special edition

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Speaker 2: next week, a Stayle's Happenings. But in the know, we

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Speaker 2: got left here thirty seconds for each of you guys.

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Speaker 2: Can Braun recover from this? If so, how he can recover?

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Speaker 2: The question is will he recover?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: What's he have to do? What can he do that?

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Speaker 4: The future is still unclear?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I think what he has to do is,

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Speaker 5: first of all, we've seen comebacks. It's difficult because you

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Speaker 5: don't have a budget in the coming legislative session, but

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Speaker 5: it can happen. It's governing well, reaching out to people

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Speaker 5: and uh, one by one by one.

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Speaker 3: All right, you all have a merry Christmas.

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